history

[junior trench]

AARGM-ER is in LRIP

[shrewd pecan]

in the helicopter the size of a house

and by house I mean the average American Mcmansion

[manic latch]

Hey its not a Mi-26

And like

People LOVE big stuff

[shrewd pecan]

it is

literally

useless

[manic latch]

Bv-238 was purchased for size memes mostly

[shrewd pecan]

the BV-238

has bombs

and enough self defense guns to make anything that attacks it to fuck off

the CH-53

is a flying bus unable to do anything

[manic latch]

living with pain Ch-53 and Mi-26 will never come

[shrewd pecan]

yeah lemme airlift the HSTV-L into combat

[junior trench]

Which means the USAF is soon to begin fielding a 300+ km, Mach 4+ air to surface missile which can be internally carried by F-35

[manic latch]

Wait what if

You use Ch-53 to carry your ally tanks to flanks

[shrewd pecan]

you'd be only able to airlift

three tanks

the HSTV-L

[junior trench]

With both passive and active radar seeking modes

[shrewd pecan]

and the two wiesels

[manic latch]

Indeed. Perfect support vehicle

[shrewd pecan]

actually no you can't even airlift the HSTV-L

[manic latch]

Like I also want recovery tanks so they can give repairs or performance boost to allies

[shrewd pecan]

the gimmick no one asked for

The early game Russian Mi-26 rush to B point
https://youtu.be/DRgkbImM-AM

[humble mulch]

I feel such a rush would only work in like a 3rd world country

[manic latch]

Ok what about V-12. She can carry Abrams for example?

[shrewd pecan]

o in top tier it would be funny as shit to watch

[humble mulch]

Just cause you can doesn't mean you should

[shrewd pecan]

but everyone involved in it is gonna be massacred

since these helicopters are massive targets

[humble mulch]

I assume they aren't all that maneuverable either

[manic latch]

Empty weight: 69,100 kg (152,339 lb)

Gross weight: 97,000 kg (213,848 lb)

Max takeoff weight: 105,000 kg (231,485 lb)

[manic latch]

Exactly. That's the fun part

Everyone would try to spawn as AA

Since they knew these girls coming

[junior trench]

Wouldn't even need to be AA

[humble mulch]

Yeah anything can kill that

[junior trench]

Under the constraints of the setting MGs and main guns would down most of them

[manic latch]

Proximity fuse shells

[junior trench]

And then the ground force would just overrun any survivors

Huh

[shrewd pecan]

yeah

[junior trench]

This sounds familiar

[humble mulch]

[shrewd pecan]

reacting the battle of Hostomel airport

[manic latch]

fine. Guess I will search other games to use Mi-26

Or wait for custom mission to appear

[shrewd pecan]

eh if they ever make a gamemode that makes infantry a thing

transport helis and APCs would have a actual purpose

tho I doubt that's ever coming

[manic latch]

Game companies really fail to understand the potential

They either focus on too much machines or infantry

I guess Arma tries to be both?

[humble mulch]

Arma is more a straight up milsim game

[manic latch]

[humble mulch]

So it's going for something entirely different

[spring briar]

arma is a meme

[humble mulch]

Oh christ please

[spring briar]

takistan life

[humble mulch]

Not the fucking Arma A-10

[manic latch]

I don't see the stealth too

Just the engines and uhh paint

[humble mulch]

Got the angled tail fins too

[manic latch]

Oh ye

[humble mulch]

[shrewd pecan]

I mean talking arma

[manic latch]

Mi-26 Chinhook Fren

[frozen jewel]

https://youtu.be/-IJRnuGP_00

Texas on her way to Galveston, live feed

[manic latch]

Snack break

Fooled by Red mods again

[hazy ether]

Nice

[manic latch]

Tato

Was this a super clever joke

Since Nato reporting name of Mi-26 is Halo

[spiral cedar]

See, if AL had Texas right now, imagine how much money they'd make from people buying rings today

[spring briar]

Texas, Arkansas and Lorraine mini event when

[shrewd pecan]

the milf update

[humble mulch]

Bro AL and Battleship Texas repair collab

It would have been perfect

[hazy ether]

Neat

[spiral cedar]

Have an event on Texas in Galveston

[hazy ether]

The live stream has some shikikans watching lol

[spiral cedar]

Proceeds go to restoration

[spring briar]

restorations also known as Texas wild hog hunting association adding Texas to their ranks in killing feral wild hogs

[spiral cedar]

👀

Get the 14" HC out of storage

[spring briar]

i just realised "feral wild hog" is a tautology

[remote monolith]

feral wild untamed hog boar

https://twitter.com/inquirerdotnet/status/1564447939363471366?s=20&t=usA1ZVSsm_rP7YkuiDRmGg

Inquirer (@inquirerdotnet)

'LARGEST DINOSAUR IN EUROPE' 🦕

LOOK: Paleontologists have been working away in a Portuguese backyard to unearth the remains of what could be the largest dinosaur ever found in Europe, University of Lisbon researchers said.

| 📷: Instituto Dom Luiz/REUTERS

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Twitter · Aug 30, 2022, 3:00 AM

Europe finally produced a dinosaur bigger than 60 feet in total length

[spring briar]

[junior trench]

[spring briar]

hi cleve

[hazy ether]

What unbuilt battleship projects that if finished theoretically would be the most powerful warship ever grace the blue ocean?

[humble mulch]

Jean Bart BBV

[ivory ridge]

None because missiles exist

Battleship and most powerful warship ever can't be in the same sentence

Unless you count missile battleships

[spring briar]

tea I read that

[spring briar]

[humble mulch]

I know you do

[shrewd pecan]

I mean

if you count Kentucky with Polaris missiles

[spring briar]

undy is right but damn the lack of imagination here

[humble mulch]

Bro

JB with F-35s

[shrewd pecan]

Kentucky would of been the one with the actual ability game end a entire country

Tho you could also throw in nuclear shell Iowa

[humble mulch]

Couldn’t all Iowas use those shells?

[spring briar]

[humble mulch]

So Kentucky could have them too with her missiles

[shrewd pecan]

Yeah

[spring briar]

a nuclear explosion within 25 miles of the ship

yeehaw

[humble mulch]

Damn right

[spring briar]

self inflicted EMP

[desert agate]

you wish you were right

[remote monolith]

USS Enterprise

especially with phaser banks

[humble mulch]

I don’t think that’s the most powerful warship tho

[hazy ether]

missile battleship
So basically modern Kirov Class

[humble mulch]

Cause like I personally would include nuclear subs which generally are just “end the world” fish

[ivory ridge]

But even then, a modern destroyer with both better strike power and anti air capabilities is better

If we include nuclear in the mix then lmao

[spiral cedar]

With no thought to the incongruity, GM2 Tooker trained the mount to port and awaited the order to fire on the oncoming target—Hiei.
But no such order arrived.

“I request permission to fire torpedoes." Hank immediately replied, "Permission not granted." He had received no authority from the flagship and apparently felt he could not yet take matters into his own hands. Crestfallen, Lieutenant (jg) Evins nevertheless ordered his di­rector operator to keep his sights on the target; he knew he would receive the desired order in moments.
But no such order arrived.

Sterett's four 5-inch guns and eight torpedo tubes had been tracking the Japanese flagship since the first fire-direction radar contact, but to no avail without orders to open fire. Lieutenant Calhoun was straining his eyes for a direct glimpse of the Japanese behemoth when she finally loomed into view. Surely Sterett would break her rigorous silence now that the best target in the ocean was in plain sight.
But no such order arrived.

It was Spadone's experi­ence that it would be impossible for the fourteen 5-inch guns Atlanta could train to port to miss any target only 2,000 yards away. Everyone in the U.S. column—and particularly everyone aboard the five leading warships, which all held ample targets in their sights—was awaiting Admiral Callaghan's order to commence firing.
But no such order arrived.

[desert agate]

Kirov class mfers when you tell them that there are multiple sea skimming anti-ship missiles flying directly towards them and their decades old radar and combat coordination system has no chance of detecting and engaging them in time

[hazy ether]

Okay okay hear me out

[shrewd pecan]

Suppose there’s also full nuclear broadside Montana as a choice

[hazy ether]

Montana Class + Reagan era Retrofit program

[shrewd pecan]

so just Iowa

With extra guns but slower

[spiral cedar]

Just load up a DDG with nuclear Tomahawks

[shrewd pecan]

no I’m going with Kentucky for having literal nuclear IRBMs

[hazy ether]

I personally prefer big pepe Iowa a.k.a USS Georgia

But no, 16" is fine

[chilly osprey]

inb4 alt timeline where the Italians convert Impero's hull into a guided missile battleship with double-ended Talos and polaris tubes for shits and giggles

[spring briar]

POV: you are Phoenix's psychiatrist looking at his brain scan

[hazy ether]

Giuseppe's big sis then

[spring briar]

no that's literally Abruzzi

[desert agate]

okay guys

if we're having awful alt hists

[hazy ether]

But seriously

Is there any big pepe guns for battleship larger than 20" at least in project only

[desert agate]

TL where Australia converts HMAS Australia (1911) into a missile battlecruiser (removing her wing turrets in place of VLS)

[ivory ridge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/433028614435504128/976927261678792714/kyarunerd.gif

[desert agate]

https://tenor.com/view/pile-of-coke-cocaine-card-gif-14108492

Hood raised from the sea floor and given Tomahawks

[hazy ether]

TL when Germany went bonkers and putting 800mm Dora on a battleship

[ivory ridge]

timeline where im happy

[spring briar]

timeline where you cope

[desert agate]

[hazy ether]

Timeline when Amagi doesn't get scrapped

[desert agate]

good luck fixing that keel

[spring briar]

part of amagi still exists

also why amagi

lolw

[hazy ether]

I want to mention Tallinn but she fared better than Amagi irl

[spring briar]

but why Tallinn

[hazy ether]

No particular reason

[desert agate]

timeline where

pain

[spring briar]

cope

still luv u

[desert agate]

i am in fact seething

[spring briar]

that impact

kekw

explain to me again why the hell she lost to a raider even if said raider had 6 149.1 mm guns

[spiral cedar]

“Attack effectively first”

[desert agate]

extremely short range

[spiral cedar]

First mover advantage

[hazy ether]

Lost to armed merchant ship

[desert agate]

the first few German salvos likely wiped out a large portion of the crew

[spring briar]

[hazy ether]

[desert agate]

as a result Sydneys ability to respond was hampered as she dealt with multiple fires, a decimated crew, at least 1 knocked out turret and attempting to increase the range

[spring briar]

I can imagine this was like L'Audacieux when she suddenly turned up in front of HMAS Australia

[desert agate]

her amour was almost entirely ineffective at such ranges and her fire control advantage was moot

[spring briar]

getting jumped is never fun

[hazy ether]

[desert agate]

even despite that she managed to land a number of crippling blows on the Kormoran, only to take a torpedo hit that would ultimately doom her

[spring briar]

but she did end up sinking Kormoran no?

k nvm you can read my mind

don't look

[desert agate]

if it weren't for the decimated crew she probably could have survived

[desert agate]

[spring briar]

was all her crew like

where were they

[desert agate]

other ships of similar size took similar levels of damage, and survived, but they had enough crewmen to deal with flooding and fires

Sydney simply didn't

losing her bow was survivable, but she was simply so short on crew that they couldn't close the forward bulkheads and pump out the flooding

[spring briar]

still very big oof

[desert agate]

and even despite all that she was still trying to make it home, staying afloat for at least 6 hours before finally going down

she likely sank at some point after midnight and before dawn although the exact time will never be known

it is however clear that she had engine power and was trying to make it home

[spring briar]

was she hit under the waterline?

[desert agate]

not sure i'll have to check the damage report which i dont have access to right now

[spring briar]

spon

[hazy ether]

According to wiki, german crew aimed for below waterline after taking out the turret

[alpine onyx]

Well, she took a torpedo, probably under the waterline

Am smart

[desert agate]

i dont have wifi it would take hours to download

[spring briar]

ok then it makes sense she sank

also

sirene

[desert agate]

quite honestly im not sure how trustworthy the German account is

[alpine onyx]

The Germans could probably not believe their luck anyway

[desert agate]

again, the post-war report written by the RAN published about 5 years ago details basically every hit on the ship they could find

[chilly osprey]

Has to be said, regardless of the range that turret wasn't going to resist a hit

[desert agate]

but i dont have it rn

[alpine onyx]

To trade evenly in that scenario was already a major success

[spring briar]

smh 149.1 mm shells can do smth

[desert agate]

the Germans got immensely lucky thanks to complacency and poor decision making on the part of Sydney's captain

[hazy ether]

Ah now this reminds me of Battle of Sunda Strait

[spiral cedar]

here @desert agate

[chilly osprey]

I mean, with only a 25mm faceplate, even destroyer SAP is going to penetrate that at combat ranges

[desert agate]

yeah i cant download the pdf is my problem

internet is just too slow

[chilly osprey]

I actually get a 404 when I click on the link

[spiral cedar]

Ah

[chilly osprey]

So doesn't seem to be available atm anyways

[desert agate]

but yeah no one was seriously expecting a German raider to pop up off the isolated North-Western Australian coastline

[chilly osprey]

Website restructuring

[spring briar]

Agano can get pounced on by most DD's at 15ish km

[spiral cedar]

Well thank me for being a PDF collector

[chilly osprey]

Every IJN cruiser has turret faces just as vulnerable as a Leander :p

[spring briar]

not even the turret face phoe

literally a 60mm CNC belt

(copper non cemented)

[hazy ether]

Unlike German U-boats that frequently visits Jakarta or Singapore, no one expects German surface ship made as far as Western Australia

[chilly osprey]

I mean, yeah, there's that too

[desert agate]

the area is simply devoid of shipping traffic
the posting only really existed as a stepping stone for rotation to the Med, as ships would go to East Coast for refit/repair, Fremantle/Western Coast defence, Med and then back again

[hazy ether]

I just remembered that USS Houston is hella lucky avoiding torpedoes fired from IJN destroyers and the torps sank their own troop transport ships instead

[desert agate]

and Fremantle wasn't seriously under threat until the Japanese came knocking a mere 3 weeks later

[alpine onyx]

The Germans who have been involved ... [in 'harassment' from those seeking 'the truth'] have developed a great contempt for the mean- spiritedness of those Australians who are not mature enough to accept an unpalatable truth (namely, that the captain of Sydney blundered), and who therefore seek to blackguard others.

[celest fractal]

Can a single AGM-84 Harpoon sink a WW2 Era BB (Iowa Class BBs)

[spiral cedar]

Mogami: destroys 4 IJA transports and an auxiliary ship with one 6-torp spread that missed the target
Also Mogami: It was Fubuki, Fubuki did it

[desert agate]

it wasn't until the Japanese began their Southern thrust that Fremantle was determined to have been under sufficient threat to put a permanent posting there, that being the obsolete HMAS Adelaide

[spiral cedar]

[chilly osprey]

From a single Harpoon? Unlikely, though a mission-kill is quite possible

[celest fractal]

[hazy ether]

Unlikely, she's built to endure severe punishments

[spring briar]

[chilly osprey]

If you had time to swap out your Harpoon's warhead for something designed to penetrate armor, then you might raise the chances of doing something nasty to someone's magazines, but otherwise it's using an SAP-HE warhead of about 220 kg

Which is still nasty as hell, just, unless you can get it into a magazine, not liable to sink the ship in one hit

[spring briar]

[celest fractal]

So one isn’t enough eh?
How about 5

[ivory ridge]

Japan's new Aegis equipped ship will have a standard displacement of 20k tons

[spring briar]

[celest fractal]

Too much?

[hazy ether]

USS Langley delivered P-40 fighters to the defence of Dutch East Indies but before she arrived at Cilacap port in Java, she was bombed by Japanese medium bombers and had to be scuttled afterwards

[spring briar]

you've likely increased the small chance by somewhat more than 5 times

but the question is

why

[celest fractal]

ugh… you want to sink the ship

[spring briar]

no

[chilly osprey]

I mean, do we have to limit ourselves to Harpoons?

[spring briar]

granit

[chilly osprey]

Chances are launching five at an Iowa will gurantee a mission kill, though, again, sinking it is very much up to chance and less likely with your typical Harpoon. They're just not meant to take down targets of that size and degree of protection

There are plenty of larger missiles, however, that are meant to take on large surface targets, where you can fit them with warheads that both create one hell of a bang and can also penetrate >1 meter of steel

And those kinds of missiles absolutely have the ability to sink an Iowa in 1-2 hits, though if they do so is still going to be somewhat up to chance as to where they hit

[spring briar]

shells remain a good option

since they retain a large burster and fragmentation

[manic latch]

Admiral Nakhimov is getting refit at least

Should get new radars as well

[subtle prawn]

Operating from the aircraft carriers Yorktown, Independence, and the Essex, nine aircraft strike groups attack the Imperial Japanese garrison and airfield on the small coral atoll of Minami Tori Shima, also known as Marcus Island. The Hellcat takes part in this attack but it does not score any aerial victories on this particular raid. Still, it is an impressive display and this combat mission comes only a mere 18 months after the prototype stage, and production of the easy to build fighter is in full swing.

Originally the design of the F6F was meant to improve on the F4F, but as the design process unfolds it becomes an entirely different aircraft sharing no parts with its predecessor. It boasts a powerful 2,000 horsepower 18-cylinder radial piston engine, heavy armour, a self-sealing fuel tank, and an impressive armament of six .50 caliber Browning M3 machine guns. It also has a load capacity of 2,000 pounds to carry bombs or unguided high velocity rockets to provide support to soldiers on the ground.

On top of all of this, it is also an aircraft that is fairly easy to become proficient in during a short amount of time. This is ideal for an air force rapidly expanding in size and recruiting new pilots left and right. Lieutenant Will Carroll recalls his first flight in an F6F back on 15 April: “There was no instructor. At runway’s end, you were cleared for takeoff. You pushed the throttle forward and the airplane threw your head against the headrest. That’s the kind of plane it was.”

All in all, from a production and performance standpoint the F6F Hellcat shows an enormous amount of promise.

Photo: Lieutenant Commander Flatley’s F6F Hellcat on the deck of the USS Yorktown warming for the attack on Marcus Island, 31 August 1943
Source: US Navy```

[manic latch]

Lucky that Japan couldn't build enough N1Ks to counter her better

[spring briar]

Texas arrived in her dry dock

[rapid junco]

Good, i guess?

It's better than Imperial Marinheiro

[spring briar]

it's good ye

[rapid junco]

This picture is actually from 4 months ago

[frigid karma]

Didn’t the captain blame Houston

Despite her not having torps

[spiral cedar]

Someone did yeh

[maiden citrus]

take my money

[manic latch]

Ah, poor Kingston

Luftwaffe wasn't kind to her

[manic latch]

@spring briar Fren

[spring briar]

Wtf are those guns

[manic latch]

Here better

[spring briar]

[manic latch]

Oh

Quad 356mms

[manic latch]

Dis one is 406mm

[spring briar]

[spring briar]

[manic latch]

Fine I will torture Sarc instead

[spring briar]

[maiden citrus]

oh dear

[strong plank]

is .280 Brit still around or did .556 kill it entirely?

[manic latch]

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/navy-to-replace-colonial-flag-pm-to-unveil-new-ensign-3302761

Huh

Didn't knew they were still using it

Interesting

[rapid junco]

So i need help with something
I'm trying to make a consultation on the archives of The Milwaukee Journal
Specifically in the edition of November 26th, 1934
The link to google News is only giving me the 404 error
And the link in Wikipedia redirects me to Wayback Machine
It keeps loading forever

The only thing i found is like
A consultation at the MPL (Milwaukee Public Library)
But it seems to be something to do in person
And... it seems to be paid?

[alpine onyx]

Still using those old 100mm guns

[spring briar]

Still using that old turtleback

[alpine onyx]

Not sure if I'd call it old, since they basically got back to it after going in a circle through other options

Maybe shouldn't have gone with those requirements

[spring briar]

[alpine onyx]

Even little sacrifices could've allowed for stuff like steeply inclined belts

But, wasn't allowed

[spring briar]

Sadness

[alpine onyx]

At least I can still pat the long 105s

[spring briar]

[manic latch]

[spring briar]

Hell no

[spring briar]

To the no no nooooo

[alpine onyx]

Look, French smol with 105s

[spring briar]

Yus

[alpine onyx]

The extend of those rebuilds be like, why not just build a new ship?

[spring briar]

Too expensive

[alpine onyx]

Moving the entire main battery into a superfiring arrangement

That's expensive

You basically have to redo the entire citadel for that

[spring briar]

Perhaps

[alpine onyx]

It makes my Scharnhorst upgrade look like a sunday afternoon job

[manic latch]

Soyuz with

Gas Turbine
British Cemented for side armor
Class B for horizontal armor
40/70 bofors in a sextuple mount
Twin 57mm bofors on top of turrets
Italian dual purpose 135mm/45 as secondaries
American radars

[spring briar]

[manic latch]

And Richelieu boilers

Or Alsace

[spring briar]

[manic latch]

Actually nvm could be problematic with gas Turbine

[spring briar]

That is IF they actually changed anything

[alpine onyx]

I mean

[manic latch]

He is right Rich. There is a reason why most of this kind of refits don't go through

[spring briar]

I can’t say until I see what they actually did

[manic latch]

I think Stalingrad's missile conversion plan was damn expensive as well. So might as well build more Sverdlovs instead

[alpine onyx]

You have to cut large holes into the decks, seal them elsewhere, fit magazines where there were none, move whatever was in there before into the now empty spots, probably rearrange the machinery now that you got room, and fit the structural support for the freshly placed barbettes and turrets

[manic latch]

Basement in Saint Petersburg museum.

Wonder why they don't show it in museum but thrown into basement instead

[spring briar]

Again, that would be a headache if they actually did all of that

[alpine onyx]

I was specifically referring to this one

And you need to do those changes, unless you plan on slapping the turrets onto the deck without a direct line to the magazines

Which would be an equally big ???

[spring briar]

Wait what

I thought you were talking about the french cruiserinos

[alpine onyx]

Nono

[spring briar]

BRUH

[alpine onyx]

[spring briar]

But yeah, my “hell no” comment is all you need to summarise that refit

[manic latch]

What about dis

Of you prefer dis?

[spring briar]

[alpine onyx]

My main gripe is the turret move

Off memory I cannot come up with dreadnought+ getting an entire turret moved like that

Removing a turret, sure

But taking it off of the deck and reattaching it like lego? No

[spring briar]

Especially with all them boilers everywhere on that ship

[alpine onyx]

At that point given the age of the hull

Build a new battleship

Scrap the old one

[manic latch]

use the main engines from the Italian light cruiser "Eugenio di Savoia" with a capacity of 2×55,000 hp.

[alpine onyx]

If you insist, you can salvage the turrets and reuse them

[manic latch]

Now I'm not sure if this was always the case tho

[spring briar]

[manic latch]

rips it out
Mine now

[alpine onyx]

The Italian refits of the Dorias are probably the closest to this

And even then, not as extensive

And were already deemed way too expensive to refit

[spring briar]

happy dunkeke noises

[manic latch]

[alpine onyx]

Italians just went right for the money without a smol bb

[spring briar]

Bubov boy

[manic latch]

Vanguard

[spring briar]

[earnest cloak]

Former USS Mississippi (BB-41) as a training ship (AG-128)

[somber knoll]

medium is premium

[somber knoll]

though those aft launchers? makes her look like she went on a very strict diet

[manic latch]

two Sea Slug SAM launchers were mounted, each with three missiles

76mm/60 Mark 6 secondaries
40mm Mark 4 AA mounts
 type-965M radar mounted on the aft mast-tube

Type 278 and 974 at front.

Two type 901 to guide those launchers

[spring briar]

Sea slug was ass

[manic latch]

British moment I guess

[somber knoll]

yeh I'm so used seeing the 15 inchers big British BBs with 8 turrets so that's my first impression

and agreed with Richie, Slugs don't even compare to Tomahawks that Mo carried

[manic latch]

And of course  Sea Cat anti-aircraft missile system

[manic latch]

Ok what about
During 1980s
She will change 40mms with Goalkeeper ciws

Sea slugs with Sea Wolf launchers

And slap Sea Eagle anti ship launchers

[maiden citrus]

Nevada refit

[spring briar]

[manic latch]

Another Nevada

FREAKING HOOD DUDE

[manic latch]

I have seen things you people wouldn't believe

[earnest cloak]

Can cursed ships be posted here or they have to be somewhat historical?

[somber knoll]

sometimes I do wonder what the power and propulsion boys are smoking, pun intended.

[somber knoll]

basically as long as it has historical basis in her, she's fair game

[manic latch]

Yes. But try to be let's say more original

Like not the typical H-45 or Habakkuk spam

[earnest cloak]

I see thx

[manic latch]

Hmm

You know I never learned if this was offical or not

But it's the only Soviet Battleship I ever called ugly

[maiden citrus]

[spring briar]

[spring briar]

Seen this thing plenty of times on yandex

Biggest sin is the front funnel

[spring briar]

[earnest cloak]

Not sure who looks worse Nelson or the G3

[maiden citrus]

g3

nelson looks powerful, g3 just looks goofy

[earnest cloak]

Yeah

[ivory ridge]

Weird thing my beloved

[spring briar]

[maiden citrus]

[earnest cloak]

at least the Proyect J3 looks more normal

[spiral cedar]

I also favor Nelson over G3

[maiden citrus]

🤝

[spring briar]

[ivory ridge]

[spring briar]

Bonjour

[manic latch]

[spiral cedar]

Your brain on WOWS gunnery

[spring briar]

[maiden citrus]

[spring briar]

[spring briar]

Iirc this is an ancient forum post

[manic latch]

By God Tengu himself

[spring briar]

Literally who

[manic latch]

Damn you don't know him

"Iowa Copers"

Who dis

[spring briar]

What

[manic latch]

He was typing right now

[celest fractal]

There’s someone malding in my DMs
He’s saying that i’m a “Salty Shitcat” Fanboy and that a Mig-17 can shoot down an F-14

[spring briar]

Lmao?

[spiral cedar]

I mean

17 > 14

He has you there

[maiden citrus]

sure buddy let's get you to gulag

[spring briar]

Also ed

[celest fractal]

wat

[spring briar]

You are an ex wehrb

So you can’t be trusted

[celest fractal]

I can’t confirm nor deny that allegation

[manic latch]

Po-2 is still the only biplane with F-94 kill

[spiral cedar]

Swordfish only biplane with BB kill

[spring briar]

Just like how the CIA says it

[maiden citrus]

would the anti ship bombing test of mitchell count as a bb being sunk by biplanes

[spring briar]

Against oldenburg?

[maiden citrus]

against indiana

[spiral cedar]

Let’s change to combat kills then

[maiden citrus]

[spring briar]

🌭

[maiden citrus]

🥖

[ivory ridge]

[celest fractal]

What happens if your Aim-54 accidentally tracks a ship and slams into it

[manic latch]

[spiral cedar]

Sudden loss of career

[ivory ridge]

How would that happen

[spring briar]

Also you sure he said mig-17 and not mig-27

[celest fractal]

Yes he said Mig-17

[spring briar]

Truly inspirational

[manic latch]

Mig-17: Let me solo her

[spring briar]

Miggen ring

[manic latch]

Rich

Is it true French had difficulty on mass producing good armor

So used inferior armor in 1930s

[spring briar]

In the early to mid 1920’s for warships yes

[celest fractal]

How could you NOT love this?

It’s so beautiful

[manic latch]

No wonder F-18 overtook her

[spiral cedar]

Hornet and Phantom look better than Tomcat imo

[manic latch]

And F-111

[spring briar]

Why u ask

[spiral cedar]

F-14 over F-111 personally

[manic latch]

[spring briar]

[manic latch]

🚪

[spring briar]

[manic latch]

[celest fractal]

Time to search up some Bismarck

[manic latch]

How original

[celest fractal]

Its all Azur Lane

[celest fractal]

Who’s the most capable Iowa of the 4?

[spring briar]

[desert agate]

F-111 supremacy

[spring briar]

Aardvark boy

[desert agate]

the pig

https://tenor.com/view/fighterjet-f111-afterburner-speed-fly-gif-16340388

dump and burn boys

[manic latch]

New Jersey or Wisconsin

[celest fractal]

I’m trying to learn about the ship and its capability. Only problem is that every search result is AL related

[spring briar]

No

No it really isn’t

[manic latch]

Ed you ok

[spring briar]

Ed is in denial

[earnest cloak]

I see a fellow VARK enjoyer

[spring briar]

smol Texas

[maiden citrus]

smol star state

[spring briar]

HMMMM

screw on windscreens

screams 1920

[celest fractal]

I’ve heard of stories that F-14As can split throttle. Can F-14Bs and Ds do the same?

[dapper parcel]

...
I actually wonder if there's multi engine aircraft that can't split throttle

[celest fractal]

I thought you can’t because the Bs and Ds use F110s and not TF-30s
Brainfart moment

[alpine onyx]

Consult ze German archives, you'll find most of what you seek there

https://invenio.bundesarchiv.de/invenio/direktlink/3a460826-ae05-4eb5-a3ea-cf9a38b5c599/

[spring briar]

[unborn wyvern]

Also Wikipedia is a thing

[eternal veldt]

Just so you know, search results tend to base itself upon your search history...

[zealous vine]

How off were speculative ship performance (measured in training) compared to actual performance (like loading rate, speed seaworthiness, etc.) on ww2 ships?

How did it vary between nations?

[spring briar]

well he "was" a massive bisko simp so

[manic latch]

I dislike betrayers

Hope he doesn't leave Vanguard for Yamato months later

[eternal veldt]

training is a factor, but you'd also have to account for equipment malfunctions and other unforseen factors

cough shell jammed in gun cough propellant charge broke and requiring 30 minutes of cleanup cough seawater entering your barrel, flooding your mags or just outright destroying the barrel

[spring briar]

referring to bisk?

[eternal veldt]

(Common issue for most nations, Richelieu, Renown at Lofoten, Littorio at Sirte)

[chilly osprey]

Stuff like rate of fire in practical terms often depends on doctrine over sheer technical limits, particularly as you extend the range

[spring briar]

USN powder bags

[chilly osprey]

In gun fights beyond 20,000 meters you will rarely see battleship guns use rates of fire greater than 1 rpm

The salvo rate is what might hit 2 rounds or more per limit

[eternal veldt]

something something the Royal Navy believing that their long service requirements will make the guns fire faster so 10 guns is OK on KGV

First Sea Lord (Chatfield) opted for this ten-gun design on the grounds that the greater efficiency of the Royal Navy (due to its unusual long-service system) ‘will enable us to fire quicker and more accurately than our foe even if we have slightly fewer guns; but no efficiency or courage will save the ship if she is insufficiently protected and is put out of action’.
Thank you, Sir Chatfield

[chilly osprey]

A 203mm is more likely to sustain 2-3 rpm, and a 152mm, 4-5 rpm

[manic latch]

180mm

It's all about the turret in the end

[eternal veldt]

you scuffed up that design, let's be honest

[manic latch]

Didn't US had same problem with their 356mm

Or maybe German 283mm was too large again

[spring briar]

no krem, the 181 mm triple was just a cramped mess

[manic latch]

Yeah I'm aware
But 356mm also looks cramped

[chilly osprey]

The USN encountered the same issue with dispersion, but not the turret itself being too cramped to operate

Being that it was designed as a triple turret from the start

[manic latch]

Yeah like it reminds me of 180mm by the looks

[chilly osprey]

Rather than what the Soviets did, which is try to stick a third gun in a twin turret design

[manic latch]

[eternal veldt]

Just because of tight grouping doesn't exactly mean it is cramped

Just like how the Italians squeeze the guns together on a common cradle on their CAs

[zealous vine]

i see. cool

[manic latch]

MK-1-180 single mount
   Designed: 6 round per minute
   Practical: 4 round per minute

[manic latch]

MK-3-180 triple mount
   Designed: Designed: 6 rounds per minute
   Trials: 5.5 rounds per minute
   Practical: 2 rounds per minute

[eternal veldt]

Could be worse, sorry Riche, have to shit on the ACAD 37 for a bit here

Super high RPM

Barrel: I die

[spring briar]

you betray me

[manic latch]

The Modèle 1925 was a single gun mount while the later Modèle 1933 was a twin mount. Both were hand-loaded, semi-automatic guns with a low rate of fire compared to their clip-fed contemporaries. A combination of low rate of fire, low projectile weight and small numbers of guns per ship led to a reputation of it being a poor anti-aircraft weapon

[dapper parcel]

Well, with two/twin you can always work the gun from outside and use however much space you want for that.
With triple you always have problem with center gun. you can't increase its working space without extending barrel baseline

[eternal veldt]

Gotta play the devil's advocate sometimes.

[manic latch]

Why they put this thing on Richel wtf

[alpine onyx]

Barrel die before shootdown of plen would statistically occur

When the choice is bad medium AA or no medium AA

You choose former

Unless you are Japanese

[manic latch]

Imagine if they got Bofors instead French

[alpine onyx]

Then, no medium AA, and act surprised when your small AA can't fill in for medium AA

[chilly osprey]

Mm, due to the delays with the 37mm ACAD they were forced to make do with the older 37mm up to the war (worth noting that they originally wanted to use the ACAD on the Dunkerque-class, adding it to the design in February 1935)

[alpine onyx]

They tried to get the Bofors pre war

But were rejected

[manic latch]

Can't they buy it illegally

Or like transfer purchase type of thing

[dapper parcel]

Enough to arm the entire fleet, who'll even manufacture that?

[manic latch]

No I guess

[alpine onyx]

Reverse engineering seems to have been a bad option

Given the rather sad attempts they made during the war to get those Bofors going

[manic latch]

Damn

[chilly osprey]

The original 40mm Bofors, it has to be noted, was a solid AA gun but also not a great design

[alpine onyx]

Also that

It was awful for mass production

[chilly osprey]

The Americans entirely re-designed it before they mass-produced it, as it quite literally couldn't be mass-produced to the orignal Swedish design

[alpine onyx]

For the nippon steel folded 100 times crowd it would sound good though

[eternal veldt]

"file to fit"

the US redesigned the whole thing as far as I remember

[chilly osprey]

Pretty much, yeah

[eternal veldt]

t should be noted that the USN considered the original Bofors Model 1936 design to be completely unsuitable for the mass production techniques required for the vast number of guns needed to equip the ships of the US Navy. First, the Swedish guns were designed using metric measurement units, a system all but unknown in the USA at that time. Worse still, the dimensioning on the Swedish drawings often did not match the actual measurements taken of the weapons. Secondly, the Swedish guns required a great deal of hand work in order to make the finished weapon. For example, Swedish blueprints had many notes on them such as "file to fit at assembly" and "drill to fit at assembly," all of which took much production time in order to implement - there is a story that one USA production engineer remarked that the Bofors gun had been designed so as to eliminate the unemployment problems of the Great Depression. Third, the Swedish mountings were manually worked, while the USN required power-worked mountings in order to attain the fast elevation and training speeds necessary to engage modern aircraft. Fourth, the Swedish twin gun mounting supplied to the USA for evaluation was air-cooled, limiting its ability to fire long bursts, a necessity for most naval AA engagements. Finally, the USN rejected the Swedish ammunition design, as it was not boresafe, the fuze was found to be too sensitive for normal shipboard use and its overall design was determined to be unsuitable for mass production.

For ammunition, the fuze designed and produced in Britain was adopted as an interim measure by the USA, but this was considered to be of an unsafe design and unsuitable for mass production techniques. Fortunately, this fuze was almost immediately replaced by one designed by R.L. Graumann of the Naval Ordnance Laboratory. This fuze was simple in design and "ideally suited to mass production." The new fuze, designated as the Mark 27, was found to be 99.9 percent efficient in ballistic acceptance tests, a record not equaled by any other fuze of the time. Both the US Army and the British adopted this fuze for their own production lines. The USN estimated that the adoption of the Mark 27 saved some $250,000,000 during the war.

Thank you, Pretz

[manic latch]

Metric is non negotiable

One day

[spring briar]

the 37 mm acad gives me so many questions

only 600 rounds barrel life with 3000 kg/cm² pressure and 825 mps mv

[chilly osprey]

I honestly find it mystifying

There must have been something different about the barrel construction

Because otherwise it would be quite reasonable to assume a 4,000-8,000 round barrel life from such a gun, just based on the ballistics

[manic latch]

Soviet single 37mm 70-k was air cooled. So had 150 practical rpm with 1.500 round barrel life.

Twin barrel 66-K, and quad barrel 46k(for Kronshtadt, Soyuz etc) were water cooler. But invasion ruined their development, only build 46k was put on Okto.

Tho later V-11 appeared as twin 37mm mount. And Soviets used that one till 1955

And V-11 is also water of course

[chilly osprey]

Both pretty poor for 37mm guns

But not shocking, it's the USSR

[eternal veldt]

inb4 it's French 1920 bad steel industry problem again

[chilly osprey]

For the French to get a figure as low as 600 EFC is another matter

[eternal veldt]

Please don't kill me

[spring briar]

The article specifies 600 rounds with all possible metallurgy efforts so????

[manic latch]

40mm bofors had 80-90 practical.

Why 37mm with 150 is bad

[chilly osprey]

I was referring to the barrel life, not the rate of fire

[manic latch]

Ah

[spring briar]

Either one of the data points shows on navweaps is wrong or france is using mild steel or smth

[chilly osprey]

37-40mm guns of this era usually vary from 5,000 to 10,000 rounds

[manic latch]

Water cooled make it 2000

So yeah it's still bad

[eternal veldt]

This task falls to you now that you have graduated

go forth and seek us the answer

[spring briar]

This could also be fully due to not cooling

Since very long continuous bursts were fired through it

And normally effective barrel life is now measured like that

[manic latch]

Air cooling lowers it like Soviet one

Did it use air cooling

Since Soviets gain 500 more barrel shots by passing to water

[eternal veldt]

I think the French were investigating into water cooling by the time of Fall of France?

and generally other methods to extend barrel life.

[chilly osprey]

ACAD was air cooled, they were planning on exploring water cooling prior to the armistice

[spring briar]

the 37mm acad data on navweaps seems to be based on continuous fire

can't say what it is for other 37mm guns

but with ~8000 rounds of barrel life?

once again licking a cactus here

[dapper parcel]

I mean, do we even know for sure what ammo was used for ACAD?

[spring briar]

not exactly

[chilly osprey]

On paper, the 37 x 218R. In practice, it's not really clear

[spring briar]

usually barrel life is correlated to chamber pressure

but it is only slightly higher than that of eg. german 37mm guns

which have in the region of 8000 round barrel lives

[alpine onyx]

Which German 37?

I'd assume excessive RoF hurt the barrel life as well

Also day 462 of navweaps giving wrong RoF figures for the German 37mm M42

But what do primary sources know anyway...?

[maiden citrus]

only at extreme ranges (near range limit) in the /50, and they were easily rectified in modifications to the guns, the turret worked well, as did the /45 as a whole

(which is the turret pictured)

the turrets were not considered cramped in fact, but the ships rather luxurious and comfortable

[manic latch]

Damn

Ah Project 1123

She turned to Moskva class later

[tough quail]

this really is some red alert shit

[trail apex]

Literally 2 ship hulls welded together. They do love their double-hulled subs though

[maiden citrus]

What if catamaran

[trail apex]

They turn into an LCS and get grounded indefinitely like the Liberty class

[tough quail]

chonk subs cool and good

[humble mulch]

I hate the fucking bridge/superstructure

But neat idea

[tough quail]

do you not like the o b e l i s k

[trail apex]

14,000 ton displacement chocker subs

[humble mulch]

no

[trail apex]

That bridge is like if Yamashiro became a Zumwalt

[tough quail]

yasen my beloved

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/169946730173825024/1008464132418322432/20220814214526_1.jpg

he doesn't know

[maiden citrus]

It ain’t a SUPERstructure for nothing

[frozen jewel]

Same energy

[spring briar]

The most common one on vessels from 1944

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza-kiryu-date-yakuza2-yakuza0-gif-21683262

[eternal veldt]

Not entirely, if you ask me. The fighting tem's going to meet her maker;Texas's just getting a checkup.

[manic latch]

Or is she

[eternal veldt]

But, since we're on the topic...

[eternal veldt]

Mate, Texas is not getting scrapped.

If she is, it'd be quite the shame, since the last surviving (super) dreadnought would be gone.

I dont think she's reaching Olympia/Orleck level bad.

Nor parked in a shit spot like Fr*nce did with Colbert.

[spring briar]

Silver

[strong plank]

Texas isn’t getting scrapped

They just got her into drydock

[spring briar]

IJN Texas

[frigid karma]

state literally just spent 35 million on repairs
she’s getting scrapped
Sure buddy

[tough quail]

the US has done goofier shit, even if I doubt it

Texas has done immeasurably goofier shit

[frigid karma]

Even so, with the amount of public hype around her moving it’s totally infeasible for them to just decide to scrap her

Unless they discover that the ship’s structural interior is actually supremely fucked

[humble mulch]

It’s also owned by the state of Texas

Iirc at least

I don’t think they’d let that happen ever

[rapid junco]

Well
About that, i ended discovered this:

So it seems i'll have no access to that newspaper
Since it's only available at the Milwaukee Public Library
And seems you have to pay to go in there (like, a fee for consultation)

[spring briar]

[frigid karma]

Richelieu was later banned for posting content from game

💀

[spring briar]

[rapid junco]

Why he would be banned for that?

[spring briar]

See: Sanglune

[manic latch]

Weird thing is

Sang can easily come back through an appeal

Since it was rather very odd ban indeed

Can explain that he was trying to show the Plymouth's content as the older Edinburgh class design

I guess he doesn't want to appeal

[spiral cedar]

He has

Evidently it didn't work

[manic latch]

Oh...

[tough quail]

yeah

it kinda cemented the mods as forever dipshits

[spring briar]

the camo colors look so off

k

[alpine onyx]

Shitzig

[manic latch]

Hand it over
That thing
Your HD model

For my lady Soyuz

[spring briar]

give me Lorraine

Le Hardi

Duquesne

Suffren

Clem

please

[tough quail]

i forgot leip wasnt in wows honestly

[spring briar]

Nurn is in it already so no real reason

[tough quail]

leip has a funnier sounding name though

[maiden citrus]

let'spig for wows

[tough quail]

unless you like horribly mutate nurn's name like i do

i keep calling her noonboon

[maiden citrus]

the sisters of nortburger and letspig

[spring briar]

hotdog bote

[tough quail]

born of the wiener republic

[maiden citrus]

sounds like a noble and based country, what comes after can't possibly be that good

[tough quail]

the third reich more like the

the uh

the stinky reich

gottem

[maiden citrus]

the downfall from hotdogism to

looks at notes

yeah this thing

see the weiner republic knew how to make boats

[tough quail]

the notes are a mile long

[maiden citrus]

boat made in weiner republic

[tough quail]

[maiden citrus]

boat made in stinky reich

one is clearly superior

[tough quail]

maka gets me, even in these trying times

[manic latch]

Reich stole my Soyuz from me

[spring briar]

wasn't only Deutschland made in the wiener repubic
or are you just referring to the design of the class

in which case

yes

wiener ships better

[tough quail]

the stank reich can only pretend to grasp the greatness of the doucheland class

[maiden citrus]

the prowess of those that lived in a hot dog country could not be grasped by their descendents who had lost the art of dog

[spring briar]

what one needs for true power:

flag with red white and blue

being a republic

[maiden citrus]

true

[chilly osprey]

All three were laid down by the Weimar republic

[maiden citrus]

super good ships come from those countries, can't explain that

[spring briar]

Ich Sehe

Danke firebirdo

[manic latch]

[somber knoll]

Clearly wiener republic is better than sauerkraut reich

[manic latch]

[spring briar]

the world would be so much better with Lorraine, Le Hardi, Suffren and Duquesne were in any game

[frigid karma]

We have Lorraine 40t in a land ship game

[spring briar]

[manic latch]

God

Su-25 trailer was amazing

Couldn't think a better way to introduce her

[tough quail]

i have now been informed of froggo trailer

watching that directly after the new top gun is wild

[frigid karma]

@tough quail could I have the source for the panthers getting skullfucked by Stuarts at Kursk

[tough quail]

https://warspot.net/35-none-more-frightening-than-the-cat

[frigid karma]

Danke

[tough quail]

The heavy losses were in part due to improper use of the tank. The Panther had a very tough front, but the sides were no problem at all for 76 mm guns or higher. The Panthers took heavy losses from flanking fire. There were cases of Panthers being knocked out by even lighter weapons. In one of the battles in the evening of July 5th, a group of 7 Lend Lease M3 light tanks managed to knock out 5 Panthers, losing only 2 of their own.

[cold pumice]

Skill issue

[frigid karma]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_B0CyOAO8y0&ab_channel=TheWickedNorth

a reminder that this is a marching theme for the austro hungarian army

oddly appropriate

[silver crest]

woops

[manic latch]

[manic latch]

Ah

Alaska in war thunder has basketball court

Between her mid catapults

[spring briar]

Yeah

Not uncommon on warships

[manic latch]

HAH

Turkey getting their T-129

In WT

With CIRIT missiles

Laser guided interesting

10km range

[manic latch]

For Italy of course

[spring briar]

where french navy

[manic latch]

Good news?
French did get Mirage 2000

Bad news?
No navy news still

Here is Alaska AP

[spring briar]

Seems reasonable

One sec

Yeah looks fine

Hey krem can you get me the WT 305’s from Kronshtadt and Gangut too please

[unborn wyvern]

I just found out that this North Korean shitbucket has a longer range then the Schwerer Gustav. further adding proof that if North Korea were to be isekai'd to 1940 they'd be able to beat Nazi germany without nukes

[spring briar]

not hard

gustav only had about 47 km range

[unborn wyvern]

true plus the M-1987 Koksan (rustbucket in picture) uses rocket assisted shells to achive it's longer range

[shrewd pecan]

Yeah but it has ass dispersion

it only really exists to indiscriminately shell south Korean back line in the hope to actually hit something important

[unborn wyvern]

Pretty much, North Korean artiliery doctrine is just "point at Seoul and fire"

[dapper parcel]

Any RAP without guidance bounds to have terrible dispersion tbf

[spring briar]

gyrojet moment

[south forge]

Because it sounds like circus music at 0:16?

[manic latch]

Alright let's see

[manic latch]

Here Kron

[spring briar]

The ricochet angles

[manic latch]

And here Kommuna

[ivory ridge]

RN Eugenio di Savoia — 5.3 => 5.7 (RB)
Kerch — 5.0 => 5.3 (RB)

I swear to god gaijin

[manic latch]

Didn't top tier ships become 7.0 as well

[ivory ridge]

yes

but those 2

are the SAME SHIP

actually, the Kerch gets higher secondary ROF thanks to sekrit documentz

[manic latch]

Are both of them Prem?

[ivory ridge]

no, only the lower one

shocking, i know

[manic latch]

Exactly

[spring briar]

All the same ricochet angles

[manic latch]

Kronshtadt shells feels like Gangut shell but fires at faster velocity

[spring briar]

Yes thats because it is lol

[lament cliff]

5.5" gun taken from Almirante Oquendo after the Battle of Santiago de Cuba. The hit is probably a 6-pounder or 4" shell from USS Iowa (BB-4)

[manic latch]

Sounds like skill issue

[ivory ridge]

i've seen ONE source claim that

and nothing else

a fucking magazine

[manic latch]

[junior trench]

[spring briar]

random data point comparison

[maiden citrus]

seems sus

[humble mulch]

Just like how there were Ferdinands at Budapest

Goddamn Sekrit documents

[maiden citrus]

when even normal documents are sus, sekrit ones are just entertainment

[frigid karma]

The only documents you can trust these days are the ones on wt forums

[unborn wyvern]

stolen right from a countries national archives

TOP SECRET

WT players: "that sign won't stop me because i can't read!"

[exotic scarab]

well I mean

it was also made after

[manic latch]

Type 055 DDG 102 ‘Lhasa’

Gawd she is so clean

Wish they keep the yellow deck instead painting over it

[spring briar]

looks fake

[spring briar]

there were guns made before 1920 that had 3 times the range

but ok

[spring briar]

healthy mentality

[subtle prawn]

https://youtu.be/kyQdU80chvA

[celest fractal]

Operations Room

[celest fractal]

I couldn’t believe that the Tomcats managed to keep up with the Top Secret MiG-28s
https://youtu.be/X7HOOLd_Sto

[subtle prawn]

https://youtu.be/lkDSTeYnW_8

[spring briar]

oh no

nononon

[junior trench]

tfw you attack an enemy who thinks the war is over and wasn't even at their positions and take crippling losses

feelssovietman

[manic latch]

Caring safety of your allies

[spiral cedar]

Buddy, if you think telling someone to take hostages is a sign of care…

FeelsTarawaMan

[frigid karma]

Sure
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/754162364718514226/1015341956374724618/FbjJtBYUcAAkMqG.jpeg

[manic latch]

"Its just business"

Some rich British Captain

[maiden citrus]

qwerty already reposting my stuff, lol

[manic latch]

Qwerty needs a teacher

You be one

[maiden citrus]

my very own anchorage

qwerty have you ever cosplayed anchorage before

[frigid karma]

Maka are you calling me a brainlet

[maiden citrus]

I'm just wondering how your inflection when you say 'teacher' would sound like

[tough quail]

lewd

[frigid karma]

[maiden citrus]

[frigid karma]

I would if she wore a Native American warrior outfit like in wows

God it looks so cool

[maiden citrus]

true, I use that skin

[frigid karma]

Anyways when do we get biblically accurate anchorage

I want a version of her with like 500 floating eyes around her

[maiden citrus]

anchorage, with 500 eyes, she can see russia from her house

[spring briar]

Where is my premium T6 Lorraine

[maiden citrus]

ijn izumo raising the us flag to enter a us port after searching for german submarines

wouldn't lorraine be t5?

[spring briar]

Lorraine had pretty decent AA and was generally upgraded compared to the Bretagnes

but had a gun less so T5 is possible too

[maiden citrus]

you see by being t5 she can queue with texas

and arkansas

[spring briar]

True...

you make a strong argument

[maiden citrus]

could make a full dragoon div

[spring briar]

Nevada

Lorraine

Arkansas

Texas

the dream team

[maiden citrus]

yeh

sadly have to substitute oklahoma

since nevada is not in the game but oklahoma is

[spring briar]

indeed

but

we definitely need them

dunkin on the 3rd reach

3rd rekt

[maiden citrus]

tru

[spring briar]

Lorraine and her gf Nevada vs Yamato

[maiden citrus]

with the power of friendship

[spring briar]

with the power of underwater shells

and ice cream

(did nevada have an icecream machine?)

[maiden citrus]

probably

[tough quail]

we just need to magic texas up to t6 with some funny gimmick so we can run them with warspite too

[spring briar]

https://tenor.com/view/rock-one-eyebrow-raised-rock-staring-the-rock-gif-22113367

[maiden citrus]

'the 3''/50 dp is now considered a long range aa mount, deck armor is now accurate'

[spring briar]

Lorraine kisses Nevada youtube prank gone wrong

[spiral cedar]

Gone smexual

[maiden citrus]

gone right

[spring briar]

Republic navies be like

fascist navies be like

[frigid karma]

Texas ‘22

She can make a dry dock whenever she wants

[maiden citrus]

tiers are honestly kinda easy to bs whenever you remember how poor some of them are

like how musashi and h39 are the same tier

[frigid karma]

Yeah I mean

[spring briar]

Tromp tier X

[tough quail]

or hipper being t8

[frigid karma]

Tier 10 large DDs are just tier 3 cruisers?

Always has been

[maiden citrus]

hipper and baltimore being the same tier

el em aye oh