dreadnought armoured cruisers
#history
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eternal veldt
Oh yea, curious. Should be there by 1909.
chilly osprey
They made be counting them as armored cruisers
eternal veldt
Oh, by the way, Phoenix, Italian waifus on the horizon. Expect weebs asking questions about Bolzano, Roma and co. 
ivory ridge
something something wasnt da vinci a battleship /s
eternal veldt
don't make me turn this into a reaction bubble, man. 
ivory ridge
lean rapids
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Ye, Fujian will use this sexy beast 
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AIM 260 bait
in seriousness
its kinda ugly
looks stumpy
the lines overall look kinda off
its like the unholy lovechild of an F/A-18 and F-22 without any of what made those planes actually look nice
maiden citrus
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Maka
Yesterday evening I went to look at a steer yeeting people into a pool
Today I visited a red sea
And a red river
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wait is riche in america
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No I am in southern france
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oh lmfao
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Flat ass empty yellow soil
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rodeo
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<:PsstHey:694064369658494986>
my emote now
RAAF Tomahawks during the Syrian campaign
sorry riche
but we kicked vichys ass
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french
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let me have my moment
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Syria is an underrated campaign tbh
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I donât like everything french
Yeah that would be like. Liking both Stalin and Khrushchev at same time
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Nikita my boy
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let me have my moment
Just the fact that Vichy actively collaborated in genocide makes me sick to my core
Thank god the navy was mostly clean cough
cough
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Just the fact that Vichy actively collaborated in genocide makes me sick to my c...
bro regular france colonized like 30% of africa or smth
it's no moral paragon either
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bro regular france colonized like 30% of africa or smth
Based
Also vichy france is regular france
Free france was fringe
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Just the fact that Vichy actively collaborated in genocide makes me sick to my c...
Is it true French citizens didn't mind much of Vichy's actions tho. Like I know there were Partisans but they weren't that many were they
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>my genocide
Based
>your genocide:
cringe
Also iâm literally half Belgian
If it is genocide you want, just ask me about that side of my heritage
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We genocide all dragons 
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Also iâm literally half Belgian
If it is genocide you want, just ask me about th...
i don't care about leopolds gamer moment
i was just talking about france in general
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Yes
France has committed colonial atrocities
Dahomey and Indochina especially come to mind
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what even happened in french indochina
we only ever hear about vietnam
i only know it because hoi4 rubber
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Lots of prisons everywhere in the later years
But Iâm not too knowledgeable in it either
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Hush hush huh 
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midnight ore
But Iâm not too knowledgeable in it either
literally no one cares 
americans taking the heat for france
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maiden citrus
consider the following; france helping liberate the us from british imperialism
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what even happened in french indochina
oh you know, just the first indochina war
which was directly followed by the second indochina war
commonly known as the vietnam war
and then that was followed by the third indochina war
which was basically 2 wars that were connected
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which one was the one where vietman kicked chinas teeth in?
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third
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ah
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Vietnam invaded Cambodia and in response China invaded Vietnam
and promptly left Vietnam
Vietnam got what it wanted, China got humiliated and Cambodia got 1/4 of its population murdered
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Vietnam invaded Cambodia and in response China invaded Vietnam
didn't vietnams invasion put an end to one of the most insane genocidal maniacs of the post war era
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Both China and Vietnam claimed victory in the last of the Indochina Wars.
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that was why they did it
China claims victory in the third indochina war in the same way North Korea claims victory in the Korean war
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the more i read about cambodia the more insane it sounds
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actual saturday morning cartoon villain mfker
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average life expectancy of 14.49 in 1978
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China demonstrated that its Cold War communist adversary, the Soviet Union, was unable to protect its Vietnamese ally.
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and Vietnam demonstrated that China was unable to protect its Cambodian ally
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>average life expectancy of 14.49 in 1978
average return to tradition advocater
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I wonder which of those proved the more consequential
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Did you know that most of the Ukrainian chemical industry was started with Belgian aid? 
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belgium is communist confirmed
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Nah needs a star
midnight ore
belgium is communist confirmed
belgian eurocommunists in brussels smh
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but yeah shitty French colonial policy is what led to 3 indochina wars
since all 3 of them were various attempts to correct the wrongs of that policy
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Belgian 1830 star of honor
How is this? 
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<a:fubukiShake:775573528668930048>
Dis?
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but yeah shitty French colonial policy is what led to 3 indochina wars
Sike
Iâll agree with the first and second
The first very much since the actual cause was covered up
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communits try not to put wheat symbols everywhere challenge (impossible)
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the third was quite literally removing the shitty regime from cambodia that only popped up because of the French
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Belgium has wheat fields
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the third was quite literally removing the shitty regime from cambodia that only...
So WW2 was actually caused bc of Versailles?
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Belgium has wheat fields
no way bro
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communits try not to put wheat symbols everywhere challenge (**impossible**)
Gib another Space race pls
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ive made that argument
ok but if the german political crisis in 1934 was better resolved then the nazis wouldnt have come to power
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Yup
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Versailles left Germany in a position where its people were upset at their treatment in the aftermath of the war and it's economy and industry was capable of rebuilding its war making potential
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ok but if the german political crisis in 1934 was better resolved then the nazis...
Hitler was made chancellor in 1933
midnight ore
Hitler was made chancellor in 1933
sorry i got my years mixed up
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Yes but why was their industry left intact and why were their people so dusgruntled
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you get my point
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And making weapons gives more jobs. So for every tank factory you get more employment
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Yes but why was their industry left intact and why were their people so dusgrunt...
because they started the bloody war
and the americans and british are tossers
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because they started the bloody war
No
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and the french too tbh
the factionalism in the peace process left a compromise that left no one happy
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it was done that way due to indecision
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Because the allies could not under any circumstances push their victory
Which would have decisively ended german industry
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anyway i still think that ww2 could have much easily been avoided if some decisions in early 1930's germany went differently
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some sort of armed conflict between Germany and Poland was inevitable
and extremism was also very much popular in Germany
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some sort of armed conflict between Germany and Poland was inevitable
maybe, but i doubt the centrist parties and social democrats were to keen too start a world war
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They werenât
But the people saw them as allowing germany to be milked
By the entente
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no but realistically weimar was delaying the inevitable
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Imagine if Hitler was a communist instead
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Pepega
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no but realistically weimar was delaying the inevitable
see this is where i dont agree, i think it could have easily persisted if just a few things went differently
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No thx
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wdym hitler was a communist it's in the name national socialism
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german economy was recovering in the early 30's and then the extremists slowly started losing popularity
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but it didn't happen fast enough
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german economy was recovering in the early 30's and then the extremists slowly s...
Yes
And the new nazi banking fraud bs fucked the economy once again
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yes people we have established that multiple factors went into the start of WW2 congratulations
there was no single causal factor
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We are genious
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And the new nazi banking fraud bs fucked the economy once again
Hitler: Gotta be Jews
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lapis elm
Whoda thunk
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but to say Versailles was not one of the causal factors would be disingenuous
and it's the same with the third Indochina war
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but to say Versailles was not one of the causal factors would be disingenuous
It put a continuous strain on the german people that they werenât willing to or understanding to partake in
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French colonial policy in the region had set a course of actions that did, eventually lead to that conflict, had certain other things gone differently then perhaps the conflict wouldn't have happened
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Thatâs it pretty much
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And the new nazi banking fraud bs fucked the economy once again
had they had a few more years of a recovering economy i think the commies and nazis would have definately lost their >50% combined seats in the reichstag
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unholy coalition
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i think that would make any extremist powergrab almost impossible
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he did do that
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yeah it blew up
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if only he lived like 2 more years
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that was a bad move on his part i think he should have thought that through a little better
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Wait
maiden citrus
skill issue?
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unholy coalition
well the main problem was, that despite nazis and commies hating each other, they could block any government by not voting
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We are better than this
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end it forever
humble mulch
Everything is a hoi4 script
midnight ore
i think that's the biggest issue
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Ayo
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Everything is a hoi4 script
lapis elm
Everything is a hoi4 script
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Everything is a hoi4 script
i went and bought a carton of milk from the store today and i got home and realised it was a TNO reference
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Hoi4 but the vietnamese version:
Hanoi4 
maiden citrus
me buying 40k hot dogs off the galactic market
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(End me)
humble mulch
Anyways whags the topic
maiden citrus
stellaris ref
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Hoi4 but the vietnamese version:
Hanoi4 <:HEFSAmeWheeze:963455343998935161> <:Fl...
Belgian humor be like:
humble mulch
I see nazis and commies but government stuff
We talking about 20s-30s Germany politics?
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Belgian humor be like:
You need a hand?
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We talking about 20s-30s Germany politics?
how did you know?
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We talking about 20s-30s Germany politics?
humble mulch
You need a hand?
I have several
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tbf this is just a tangent we were originally talking about indochina
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You need a hand?
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Australia did better in Vietnam than America fuck yoouuuuu
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A dragonfly landed on me
Belgium now has more carriers than germany
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Are you sure
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humble mulch
I know it's probably not hard to beat America stats wise
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the 2500 black VC of Ho Chi Minh vs 108 dudes from 6 RAR
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I see nazis and commies but government stuff
i was just talking that entire nazi phase could have been avoided in germany if only a few thing went differenty in early 1930
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i was just talking that entire nazi phase could have been avoided in germany if ...
Ah I see
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Australian COIN and jungle warfare was significantly better doctrinally than American "attritional warfare" doctrine
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tea the stats of casualties in vietnam are like, 52k us vs like a million
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But with no nazis we wouldn't really have gotten to the moon would we
Nor umm
Nukes?
Yeah I know Maka
But what if Australia's is like 200 vs a hundred thousand
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vietnam was not a numbers war
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if it was America would have wiped the floor
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one australian man went there and killed 300 people
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one australian man went there and killed 300 people
his name is Kevin
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he's a good ol bloke
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he suffers from severe PTSD and the effect of agent orange have caused his life to end prematurely
humble mulch
See thats 40 to 600, that's a good margin I think?
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But with no nazis we wouldn't really have gotten to the moon would we
Nor umm
N...
Hmm. If Holocaust was much faster. Maybe Einstein would be lost to it as well. Thus loss of all his atomic theories
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Hmm. If Holocaust was much faster. Maybe Einstein would be lost to it as well. T...
kremlin...
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honestly i dont know what Australian kill ratios are in Vietnam, we certainly didnt take more casualties than we inflicted but its not really a hugely important thing
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einsteins theories were done in ww1 time period
humble mulch
See that's not fucking at all what I was fucking saying
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optics
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plus we just get lumped with the Americans anyway
humble mulch
You fucking nit wit
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kremlin...
I think he escaped to Turkey first at start of these arrests. Then to US. Where he joined the atomic bomb program
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Einstein by the 40s was generally not the best physicist
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Einstein wanted bomb to be used on Germany not Japan irrc
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he clung on to older ideas and theories that physics in general had moved past which meant a lot of his later work was considered outdated
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it might slow it down some but like, all the actual work and knowledge base for it was done in like the 10s and 20s, even jet experiments, so it wouldn't have really changed the bombs or space
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Yeah Oppenheimer was more vital
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Dirac
Pauli
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Germany first was the goal
tankies be like: but they actually didn't because the germans were white 
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the Germans were imporant to Gemini but space travel was happening regardless
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Yes I was just spit balling butterfly effect that would probably make the world a better place
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Yes I was just spit balling butterfly effect that would probably make the world ...
Hoi4
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Not like Kremlin who's suggesting speed running thr holocaust
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"i aim for the stars but keep hitting London"
-Wehrner von Braun
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Not like Kremlin who's suggesting speed running thr holocaust
I thought it was about Butterfly effects 
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That's not a butterfly effect that's at all fucking related to the conversation
Jfc
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Btw Kremlin
Remember that soviet jet that crashed in Belgium?
Mig 23 ye
That poor guy
Wrong place in wrong time
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ooh Soviet funny things time
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He killed Belgians
Belgian*
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Mig 23 is garbage
Kinda sadly
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Russian planes are garbage i mean what
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nah
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What was his goal?
During takeoff, the engine's afterburner failed, causing a partial loss of power. At an altitude of 150 m (500 ft) and descending, the pilot elected to abandon the aircraft and ejected safely. However, the engine kept running and the aircraft remained airborne, flying on autopilot in a westerly direction
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post-70s Russian planes then
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During takeoff, the engine's afterburner failed, causing a partial loss of power...
Autopilot's hatred for west
humble mulch
So it flew from east Germany to Belgium?
maiden citrus
post-70s Russian planes then
you're allowed to just add mig15 as a citation
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<:EulaSip2:823553751074996264> Russian planes are garbage i mean what
Okay
You design a plane
tough quail
is that why there's a random polish mig in virginia
maiden citrus
So it flew from east Germany to Belgium?
the best part is the ussr actually took responsibility, paid for damages, the whole shebang
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dont need to im not an aeronautical engineer
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The unmanned aircraft left Polish airspace, crossing into East Germany and then West Germany, where it was intercepted by a pair of F-15s from the 32d Tactical Fighter Squadron of the United States Air Forces Europe, stationed at Soesterberg Air Base in the Netherlands. The F-15 pilots reported that the MiG had no crew
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post-70s Russian planes then
that's about as realistic as expecting russia to make a post-70's era tank
oh wait
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that's about as realistic as expecting russia to make a post-70's era tank
MBT 152mm program of Soviet Union for 90s
humble mulch
the best part is the ussr actually took responsibility, paid for damages, the wh...
Goddamn well that's something at least
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T-72 vs Chieftain tho
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T-72 vs Chieftain tho
i'll take the one that serves tea thx
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humble mulch
Easy liter of tea right there lmao
tough quail
leave it to spon to actually dredge that up like literally everyone here hasnt seen it six hundred times
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thanks horse ily2 bro
humble mulch
Lmao
tough quail
people who engage in actual jet arguments deserve to be beaten to death
maiden citrus
and based for it, because certain people also do their wanks even when it's not the topic
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honestly, i'd like that
midnight ore
Easy liter of tea right there lmao
tea service... 
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maybe id get a good nights sleep for once
maiden citrus
masochism moment?
midnight ore
leave it to spon to actually dredge that up like literally everyone here hasnt s...
it's still relevant tho
tough quail
also fwiw chieftains really shouldnt be singled out
humble mulch
Bludgeon induced coma
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and it keeps making people mad
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until the abrams/leo2/chally generation western MBTs are uh
M-60 moment
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centurion was the best MBT in the world for a solid 15 years
tough quail
you've got the germans over here deciding that armor just isn't real anymore for some reason
midnight ore
very special olympics
actual garbage opinion
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not until the T-62s come out that theres a serious threat against the Cent
tough quail
that's spon guarding the cent with intense australian cope
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Until someone else makes a new tank
It's loop. You make a tank, enemy makes a tank to counter it. You make a tank to counter that
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i'd like to see a T-55 actually beat a cent really
maiden citrus
or say your tank counters theirs
humble mulch
Most things at least
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tough quail
but the chieftain is just the passing of a torch
humble mulch
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that's spon guarding the cent with intense australian cope
cent >>> some t-55 whatever garbo
tough quail
the US finally got over it's crippling engine pain
and passed it lovingly onto the british
humble mulch
They should make them RC and then like make them 1v1
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F-22
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T-55 had thicker armour in like... some places
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The Soviet government apologized and paid compensation for the loss of property and life.```
finally found citationVirgins: Chieftain is first MBT
Chads: IS-7 is first MBT
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But to be serious. Would loved to see Is-7M
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maiden citrus
an absolute diplomatic genius
say something so stupid both sides stop debating immediately in awe
humble mulch
Isn't the crusader kinda a pesduo mbt?
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friendship renewed with horse
humble mulch
Like the one used it north africa?
midnight ore
Isn't the crusader kinda a pesduo mbt?
is it time for ww2 mbt discussion again?
đż
maiden citrus
do anything but stir shit lately
literally expanding on your own comment but go off
humble mulch
Well again I am not the best on tanks
tough quail
the whole "first mbt" thing is extremely vague
tough quail
you can pretty much make an argument for the cent, panther, pershing, t-44, t-54, m46
humble mulch
Only tanks I know much about are ww2 ones and half of those are memes anyways
tough quail
and you're not really wrong
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real take, there are no MBTs yet
tough quail
it's a very generalized and vague requirement set
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tough quail
i think the general logic is that the cent gets it because of it's doctrinal role to replace cruiser and infantry tanks period
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blessed centurion
tough quail
whereas the US/Soviets/Germans were still going hog wild with dipshit heavy tank designs
(though even the british got roped back into that with el connquerino)
so it's kinda just
pick whichever one tickles your pickle the most
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real take, there are no MBTs yet
MBT tanks will soon have no difference of weight with most Heavy tanks. Especially with all upgrades Abrams getting. I think she is heavier than Is-7
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ill tickle your pickle
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What if
Heavy MBT tank
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What if
maiden citrus
tanks will probably always be a similar weight due to armoring and capability requirements
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No tank
tough quail
an is-7 and an abrams are around the same size
but is-7s are weird cheating space magic
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American lower hull, French suspension, Australian everything else
glorious and beautiful as it always should be
maiden citrus
since it's not like a ship where you have thousands of tons to play with
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American lower hull, French suspension, Australian everything else
Hyper blessed
maiden citrus
and dimensions and inner layouts that can massively vary
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tanks will probably always be a similar weight due to armoring and capability re...
well there is a lot of efficiency to be gained from newer designs
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oh god not this shit again
midnight ore
instead of endlessly upgrading legacy designs
maiden citrus
to a degree but then you still have to slap all the electronics on it and then armor, the latter especially having somewhat static weights per material, so unless it's just incapable, it's not like it's gonna gain magic powers
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Nations who had T-34
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some y'all just cant get over shit fr
tough quail
im pretty sure you could probably just put the US on their list
there's absolutelly some weirdo case of some dude in the US army just hijacking a T-34
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there were American T-34s sent over for testing at Aberdeen
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They tested T-34 in US during ww2
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Nations who had T-34 <a:Rossiya_Pet:778204874550542348>
Countries by gdp
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Countries by gdp <:MurmWat:839635014256951296>
maiden citrus
finally, greenland is green
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good to be green
maiden citrus
we did it
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Countries by gdp <:MurmWat:839635014256951296>
Leclerc operators
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south america
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indo-pacific leclercs
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>south america
one of the colonial holdovers
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Leclerc operators <:feelssadman:618571895926947860>
Very good tank
maiden citrus
see, t34
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just the french trying to say "hey we're an empire still we have colonies"
tough quail
tru
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and everyone else just wants to use their shit for ESA launches
tough quail
i mean it unironically has a T-34 lineage to it, though it's largely peeled away by that point
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Challenger 2 
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all tanks are T-34
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Challenger 2 <:Despair:959447941393842256>
Also a pretty good tank
tough quail
Leclerc operators <:feelssadman:618571895926947860>
whenever times are bad, remember, it's your fault for not investing in the leclerc and opting for joint production
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Sadly the UK and France are well
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i am a T-34
tough quail
all tanks are T-34
i dont mean that in the "hahahueheuh soviets did it first" way
strong plank
Your mother is a T34
tough quail
just that the funny aberdeen t-34/kv-1 kicked off the heavy tank program in the US
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Your mother is a T34
tough quail
it's where they picked up the suspension
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she is thats why i didnt fuck her last night
midnight ore
i am a T-34
T-34
T34
T35
F-35
maiden citrus
wtt, christie suspension for ideas
maiden citrus
she is thats why i didnt fuck her last night
you have sex with your own mother on most nights?
are you ok
humble mulch
manic latch
T-34
T34
T35
F-35
F-35 fans when you ask them why they need 7000$ shampoo to use it
humble mulch
Guys pls
tough quail
they were gonna swap the T-34 to it but then barbarossa slapped that idea
strong plank
Shit itâs the feds
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manic latch
you have sex with your own mother on most nights?
midnight ore
wait when did tea even become a jannie
humble mulch
Umm
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sounds like something a fed would say
midnight ore
i didn't even notice
strong plank
Tea thatâs exactly what a fed would say
maiden citrus
I'm a fed though by technicality
tough quail
they presumably got some ideas from the british too when they basically put the word out
humble mulch
Iâve been a mod since
February of 2021
tough quail
"fuck"
spring briar
Noone can talk to Horse like I talk to him about subsonic ammunition
tough quail
"we're really behind on tank design"
"send us shit to look at"
but i've only personally read on the soviet shenanigans at aberdeen, not the brits
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Noone can talk to Horse like I talk to him about subsonic ammunition
đŽ
midnight ore
Iâve been a mod since
February of 2021
well shit, i didn't even notice
humble mulch
maiden citrus
how do you not notice
tough quail
<:richielewd:768605742109294612> đŽ
humble mulch
Yeah cause I quite literally act like the regulars
strong plank
Would a fed have his walls lined with tannerite
Thatâs the most yeehaw thing Iâve heard all day lmao
spring briar
tough quail
if i had to guess they probably nabbed the optics from a churchill
humble mulch
Do a no knock raid fucker
tough quail
because apparently everyone and their mom liked those
humble mulch
I dare you
midnight ore
how do you not notice
he doesn't act like he has a 8 meter pole up his ass all the time
humble mulch
I double dare you
midnight ore
most obvious difference
maiden citrus
oh yeah guess that's true
tough quail
like, both the germans and soviets nabbed those iirc
maiden citrus
why is there a t34 and t35 but no t36
midnight ore
<:richielewd:768605742109294612> đŽ
you just know...
strong plank
If the T34 was so good why was there no T34 2
manic latch
you just know...
midnight ore
<:BASED:775238396158935060>
maiden citrus
you see the t35 is land battleship
manic latch
If the T34 was so good why was there no T34 2
T-34M couldn't be finished before ww2
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deep battle over the Pacific
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t36 is just battleship
tough quail
T-34M couldn't be finished before ww2 <:feelssadman:618571895926947860>
miss me with this babyness
we got much dumber T-34 overhauls
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/r/cursedtanks
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we got much dumber T-34 overhauls
I mean the REAL modernization. The thing you do without desperate time and measures 
humble mulch
Be good children
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we got much dumber T-34 overhauls
T-34-85
humble mulch
Also
spring briar
Ah yes
When you need to collateral two guys standing in a row, the first who is naked and the second who is wearing level 3 a body armor
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all stuarts are blessed
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Stuart little
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lmfao they put a pak on an m3
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especially him
strong plank
even the cavalry ones?
humble mulch
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humble mulch
They made the Stuart actually work
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even IF that family went to an orphanage, ignored all the children and chose the mouse instead
spring briar
You have seen Yugoslav Stuart
But what about Yugoslav Le Fantasque
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stuarts werent bad across the board really
humble mulch
tough quail
im trying to find a good picture of it but goddamn
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when they first saw action in North Africa they got some pretty positive feedback from the poms
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tough quail
they had 1960s reserve models with night fighting equipment and T-54 roadwheels
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https://preview.redd.it/00jb6hqoszp21.jpg?auto=webp&s=ba6fc32d2d3a7129acb9948226...
Need more tracks
strong plank
Damn I canât find any pics of a cavalry Stuart
maiden citrus
stuarts werent bad across the board really
The most numerous Italian tank (and second most numerous Axis tank overall), the Fiat M13/40, was much slower than the Stuart, had slightly weaker armor all around, and could not penetrate the Stuart's front hull or turret armor at 1,000 meters, whereas the Stuart's gun could penetrate any spot on the M13/40.
strong plank
âYou canât use that, tanks are for the infantryâ
âAight so we wonât call it a tank thenâ
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```The most numerous Italian tank (and second most numerous Axis tank overall), ...
based 2 pounder
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Italian Heavy tanks vs Japanese tank hunters 
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Troop morale armor
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Troop morale armor
Pictures of their wives 
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based 2 pounder
the british were like 'bro the crusader sucks in comparison to this' in africa
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but it worked
spring briar
look at this based fella
Canât see shit
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but it worked
Is this what you tell to your gf
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crusader wasnt a bad tank tho
humble mulch
Canât see shit
Neither can the tanks so itâs safe
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Is this what you tell to your gf
maybe if i had one
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tough quail
crusaders looked cool and thats what happened
humble mulch
Iâll be you GF
tough quail
Is this what you tell to your gf
to be fair if you did
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thanks tea
tough quail
thats a fucking power move
humble mulch
You can tape my yamashiro cosplay photos up in your crusader anyday
spring briar
Love how we went from french warcrimes to Stuarts
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spring briar
Full circle
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and are now at innuendos
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thanks babe you're the best
strong plank
All roads lead to Stuart
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soon we will be back at french, the language of love
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ill give you my haruna cosplay pics
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Pog
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Stuart = Steward = eduard = đ«đ·
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tough quail
soon we will discuss how the amx-50 project produced the best tanks of the period and how nothing has ever lived up
spring briar
soon we will discuss how the amx-50 project produced the best tanks of the perio...
Amx 50âs ap round
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ill be honest i know jack shit about french tanks
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Because it was so good overall
tough quail
the 120 is just especially funny to me
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especially the deadzone of post-war europe
tough quail
alright france here is the most powerful tank gun in the world atm
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all 1 of them
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I know about french tanks
tough quail
wait, are you making batshit insane AP ammo for it and giving it a 6s reload time?
oui
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the drivers speak french
humble mulch
Hit once I get a stl of the dildo gun tank Iâll mail you one
tough quail
i see
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the what
tough quail
excuse me
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dildo gun tank
tough quail
the proper term is "dildo motor carriage"
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the proper term is "dildo motor carriage"
are you implying the machinegun is the primary armament?
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tender monolith
saved for posterity
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The British tank with dildo looking object
its not british
strong plank
The chode cannon
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you fuck
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like the way it looks though
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its not british
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its the lower hull of an M3 Lee with French suspension and everything else is Australian
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no wonder, it's got m3 dna
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except the gun i guess but we built the 2 pounders domestically so
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Turret is Australian or British?
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turret is Australian
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and I'm one of the only people in existence that like the m3
tough quail
are you implying the machinegun is the primary armament?
yes
humble mulch
Found one hit
strong plank
Secondary build tank
Secondary build tank
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humble mulch
But itâs 22 parts and my resin printers are fucking dying
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it was cramped with a 2 pounder
humble mulch
Soon
tough quail
going with an m3 lower hull and a crusader turret is very
tough quail
"what if we take the weirdest bullshit we can find in africa and roll it together?"
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its not a crusader turret
we just looked at a crusader turret and decided "hey lets do this better"
then we did it worse
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Also itâs all Cast
first tank to have a fully cast hull and turret
humble mulch
Yeah
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which is quite the achievement for a country which had built a grand total of 0 tanks before
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as much as i hate to admit it though the Sentinel program deserved to be cancelled
humble mulch
Idk how well it would have done but Iâm sure it would have done better then fucking panthers
Well yeah
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Idk how well it would have done but Iâm sure it would have done better then fuck...
it had a 2 pounder gun tea
57mm
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alright this is a tank I can get behind
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nothing wrong with a good 2.2''
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bro you'd need midgets to crew it
humble mulch
And thatâs a problem how
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Girls und panzers
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so simple
spring briar
I love the Somua S35
humble mulch
But shotas
spring briar
humble mulch
And youâre fighting the Japanese
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have you seen papua new guinea
humble mulch
Just have your parents sign a waiver
Yes
Itâs ass
I did a war gaming campaign for like
4 weeks in New Guinea
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90% of the country is just this
humble mulch
It was ass
So I know itâs certainly fucking worse then what I experienced
The kids will be fine
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have fun with your tank that has 3 fucking V8s strapped together for a power plant
humble mulch
Just have your parents sign the waiver
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looks pretty
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ooh i can hear the breakdowns already
tough quail
I love the Somua S35
yaes
humble mulch
humble mulch
Wait
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on a single driveshaft
tough quail
V12s more better
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3 cadilac V8s
humble mulch
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its not as bad as the brits who put 5 engines in a sherman
humble mulch
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as long as it's built diff
maka i love you but i hate you
tough quail
that's not a british thing
humble mulch
Well like father like son
tough quail
that's the engine the US sent them
maiden citrus
V12s more better
v12s sound amazing
tough quail
it's just attributed to the brits in that one firefly meme
humble mulch
But itâs 2?
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i saw 2 tanks break down at tank fest
a British Sherman
and a Hetzer
and yeah its what the Americans gave them
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you see, just like german ships with backup electrical equipment, putting 5 engines in tank makes tank have backup engines
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and because British armoured development was in the gutter they couldnt just say no
tough quail
812 jumpscare
tough quail
it's a goofy engine but it sounds rad, yeah
spiral cedar
tender monolith
if the IS-3 engine i have heard was the right one then i liked it the best
strong plank
Yâall ever heard of the
humble mulch
What
strong plank
280mm atomic cannon
humble mulch
Jaba what is that
spiral cedar
Iâm not sure
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tfw interwar lack of investment in the military meant that even in 1943 when Australian industry was performing exceptionally well we still had to cancel the coolest tank program of the war because we didnt have the industrial capacity to keep building tanks while foreign alternatives were available
humble mulch
Thatâs how you blow up a barrel
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fzUnAUarNI
I was indoctrinated to v12s as a child
spiral cedar
strong plank
Thatâs how you blow up a barrel
POV you found where that missing 300blk round ended up
spring briar
maiden citrus
that and straight 6s
humble mulch
300blk is nice but like
spring briar
.500 shush
humble mulch
Eh
strong plank
Whatâs that far right one
maiden citrus
what's your opinion on straight 6s mister equidae gene
strong plank
iirc 300blk is better if youâre firing suppressed out of a shorter barrel?
tough quail
straight sixes are neato
maiden citrus
last car was one and it was so smooth and nice
strong plank
whereas 5.56 you want a barrel length closer to 16-20in
humble mulch
Yeah 300blk is better for like CQC
strong plank
I think anyway
spiral cedar
Best CQC round is 16â 1900 lb HC
tough quail
which car
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Oldsmobile Bravada
humble mulch
What about my ears
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such a nice car, would've had it repaired to but you probably remember my insurance scam rant
humble mulch
Is 300blk that loud?
strong plank
Pretty sure suppressed 300blk is quiet enough to not require ear protection
I mean obviously youâd still want to use it but like
spring briar
On the contrary
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where they told me they were going to take it and inspect the damage and give me a cost and they later informed me they belived it not worth fixing and scrapped it and asked me for any remaining keys (same phone call)
and I was amazingly livid
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it's worth it to me, you pricks
I kept keys and the front bumper piece and just told them they had it all, after being irate
humble mulch
My attempt to find what car you are talking about only makes me more concerned
tough quail
thats just fucked up
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tough quail
i did learn something about my girlfriend the other day that you'd probably appreciate maka
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equidae is horse
sullen canyon
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I have an inline 4 with turbo now but I get attached to stuff
I miss my car
also I am interested
tough quail
she has a fucking red corvette c3 in the family
maiden citrus
very very nice
sullen canyon
That's a lot of horses pulling that engine I'll bet
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to showcase how attached I get to stuff, we were downsizing from 3 cars to 2 in my family for a while as I was in college's last year and rarely drove, and we could either trade in my car or my mom's convertible mustang, and I wanted to keep my car
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And like what 0-60 is about 2.4sec or so
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now I kinda regret that because they probably would've been way more hesitant to scrap a customer's mustang convertible without authorization, but, no win scenario
humble mulch
Also for some reason I thought equidae was Escalade
sullen canyon
maiden citrus
to be fair, bravadas were basically escalades yeah
they were super trailblazers with a truck frame and escalade stuff on them
so in misunderstanding, you have found truth
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spring briar
Pretty sure suppressed 300blk is quiet enough to not require ear protection
Itâs still loud but a huge difference
Aka you can shoot it without ear protection
Equus
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I have really sensitive hearing
humble mulch
Iâd use protection anyways
sullen canyon
humble mulch
I say as I donât wear earplugs with my motorcycle
maiden citrus
yeah I had my work buy me -30db earmuffs because some of the pumps are pretty loud
humble mulch
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I mean I don't wear earplugs on motorcycle either, because I wear a helmet
humble mulch
Yeah same
maiden citrus
I have a 100th anniversary harley sportster, it's loud but not that loud
sullen canyon
Usually some helmets now have nosie cancelation features I believe
humble mulch
But depending on the helmet
You can fuck up your hearing to umm higher sounds
Like the wind being the main concern
Better helmets do better yeah
maiden citrus
mine's got a lot of padding, and never really felt damaging before
and like I said I have little whiny baby hearing threshold
lmao
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Gene Slover here notes that USS Salem had a different main battery fire control setup than the previous Des Moines class cruisers, which gave her the ability to use her main battery fire control directly for 8â/55 RF in the AA role, rather than having to pass on the targeting data to the secondary battery fire control first to calculate fuze settings
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Very interesting
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somber knoll
speaking of V12s...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=io0zK9Kb9gQ
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hewoo
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https://twitter.com/WarshipCam/status/1550481701956206593?s=20&t=5NcjMMUc6mfRdgI...
Pain of removing 8 Nuclear reactors
She will be there for a long while
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Black dragon fang my beloved
57 has some of the wackiest looking ammo ever because of the frangible ammo
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zealous vine
Why did ww2 warships even have riggings?
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places to mount exterior equipment where elevation is critical
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Ah, aight
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I think this is the reason Pentagon wants update on engines or new engine as whole
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Of course need to add additional produced F-35s in this list compared to years
So it will be higher naturally as years go
Net effect of the militaryâs struggles with the F135 jet engine made by Pratt & Whitney. In February, 36 of the fleet of about 450 F-35s - or about 8% - were unable to fly because they had no working engine.
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% based
Seems like itâs primarily a lack of spares issue due to a different readiness metric used by the DoD
Compared to typical USAF and USN standards
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dapper parcel
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@spring briar
I can think of an AA tech tree for France in AL.
We already have 100mm mle1933. So it should lead to 100mm CAD mle 1937 then it should lead to 100mm CAD Mle 1945 as gold secondary/AA
As for the 37mm ACAD. It should lead to 57mm ACAD Mle 1951
Or 37mm ACAQ (quad version)
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fe,_Fi,_Fo,_Fum,_and_Phooey (Mice in space around the Moon)
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spring briar
Kremlin wtf is this
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what
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spring briar
The Buccaneer can fly much lower than that basically
jovial elm
Bucaneer was known for ultra low attacks
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Bucaneer was known for ultra low attacks
Yeah it was designed to counter Chapayev/Sverdlov class cruisers
Flying low to avoid their radar