avrora-general

[stuck copper]

i never

ever

use her

[verbal obsidian]

phoneix is lvl 52 in my fleet

or some shit

[stuck copper]

phoenix is great for sos and stuff

i just put starters for sos today

rarely use dds

back then, i oathed belfast for her wedding dress

and then atago for hers

that's it

you cheating shikikans

[verbal obsidian]

for the additional voice lines

[stuck copper]

this is why i dont lvl in dorm

not having her go MOUUUUU DAME! is pretty nice

these numbers

i dont like looking at them

it makes me annoyed

[verbal obsidian]

do u have a full second floor

[stuck copper]

yes

[verbal obsidian]

that also makes lvling them a lot easier

[stiff musk]

@stuck copper

NTR.jpg

[stuck copper]

i still have to take them out to sortie tho

[verbal obsidian]

get cucked

[stuck copper]

yeah, second floor more or less gets rid of mood issues on higher maps

because by the time you finish your runs, they're like to have recovered most of their mood

[raw osprey]

bruh, was wondering

[verbal obsidian]

while i agree 120 is a bit of a hassle, i dont think its as devastating as u make it seem lol

also ringing = infinite mood basically

[stuck copper]

maybe. i'm just pissed off. is all.

[raw osprey]

which ch<10 map had the most exp per map run?

i only tried 7-4 which gave me constant 2% exp increase on 2m pr grind, so that's a good thing

[tight flower]

[verbal obsidian]

[stiff musk]

@raw osprey just front whichever map you need drops from

[verbal obsidian]

i nvr really looked at maps like that

[stuck copper]

shouldn't it be w9?

[verbal obsidian]

i just farm for w/e drops i needed

but ye w9 lol

[stuck copper]

yeah, if you need drops, go for those

[raw osprey]

i dont aim for drops until idk

i just want to get my PR as fast as i can

[stuck copper]

never farm for one thing if you can farm for multiple things instead

[verbal obsidian]

^

[stiff musk]

Ship drops are harder than gear drops. I've long stopped trying to farm gear cause we get boxes like candy

[verbal obsidian]

u can farm drops + pr at the same time

giga brain the map

[stuck copper]

i dont even need crates anymore. they're all useless to me, including rainbow. so yeah, i wouldnt worry about those too much, unless you have nothing.

[raw osprey]

maybe i'll try 9-4 if it got something decent on it

[stuck copper]

niizuki

not a great ship but cute

one of them gives you nicholas

[raw osprey]

whoops, nvm

i'm still on 9-1 lol

[stuck copper]

yeah my gameplan has been basically pr + map drops for the past year

ship drops

nearly done pr

but still trying to get coloumbia or someone

10-4 girl

denver?

colorado?

idk who

[raw osprey]

i also avoid 8-4 because i can't auto the boss lol

that's jintsuu

[stuck copper]

sendai

yeah, 11-4 is the other one

but i got her already

theres 1 more from 10-4

or wait

is it 11 4?

i dont know now

[raw osprey]

hmm

[stuck copper]

which im doing

cleveland class is 11-4

oh

then its 11-4

[raw osprey]

is chapter 10 a huge jump in difficulty as they say?

[stuck copper]

yes

yeah

[raw osprey]

rip my ships i guess

[verbal obsidian]

if u havent been playing on manual

u should get used to clearing 10 on it lol

[stuck copper]

fire extinguishers are more or less mandatory

[verbal obsidian]

^

[stuck copper]

lots of damage to your backline

yea it has that nonsense with the bomb ships

bring akashi

[verbal obsidian]

which map was it where the line of explosive ships runs at u

right down the middle

[stuck copper]

akashi 2 bb or one illustrious class 1 bb

10-1?

[raw osprey]

i started doing manual again since 8-4 because the boss there had a bs torpedo pattern tbh lol

[stuck copper]

some nodes have 3 BBs, two of which will fire at your backliners simultaneously

cursed

[raw osprey]

wtf BBs on nodes?

[stuck copper]

w11 is the same but with higher numbers

3 triangle bb fleets

you will begin to fear them

red BB fleets are brutal af

[raw osprey]

oh, i thought it was like pvp lol, pardon

[verbal obsidian]

on manual theyre not bad to handle

[stuck copper]

ch10 was when i had to learn how to cancel with cvs lmao

[verbal obsidian]

if u auto

theyll fuck your fleet up

[stuck copper]

they really will

[raw osprey]

cancel with cvs?

[stuck copper]

if you manual, you can save everything, then burst them down as they spawn

the pattern is always the same, so you can anticipate it

when you launch an airstrike the screen clears all enemy bullets

including the bbs volleys

[raw osprey]

wut, guess i learn something new here everyday

too focused on auto pr grinding before xd

[stuck copper]

watch when thyre autoing

u will see

and yeah

airstrikes clear the screen

what cal said just hold back everything and then nuke them when they appera

including BB gun fire

it works and it feels great too

[raw osprey]

hmm

if my fleet is around lv100-112 are they gonna be fine on later chapters?

[stuck copper]

110 at least

fine enough for w10 at least

probably w11 as well

if they have the gear

[raw osprey]

my priority after pr is probably getting jintsuu in w10 (or w11? idk)

[stuck copper]

she is 10-4

[raw osprey]

oh great

[verbal obsidian]

did we have 110 for w10?

yeah we did nvm

i remember giga maxing my ping pong sisters

with yatsen in w10

[stuck copper]

not sure

i cleared the story with ping pongs

w10 or w11

feels good man

[verbal obsidian]

theyre stupid strong

[raw osprey]

how's your experiences when w10 just came out and you did it firsthand?

[stuck copper]

outdated but idc

eh, you can just use maxed DDs and evade shit

[verbal obsidian]

dont eeven need them to be 115/120 to clear maps

[stuck copper]

xD i was late af to world 10 plus

i think world 12 was out before i got started on world 10

w10 was tough but fun

[verbal obsidian]

yeah idk

w11 was easy and 12

once u get past the w10 hurdle, its like w/e again

[stuck copper]

w11 was easy because you had 110 ships by then

[verbal obsidian]

true

[stuck copper]

so it was really just more of the same

[verbal obsidian]

i was overly prepared for w12 too

[raw osprey]

define overly lol

[verbal obsidian]

we had so much down time between w11 and w12 release

i had a bunch of maxed ships/ fleets to clear

but we've also been playing since launch

for u it'll be different

[raw osprey]

yea i guess ._.

just started a few days after closed beta

[stuck copper]

w12 was also known for being super hard, because it originally was

i also started a few days after closed beta

[raw osprey]

and i'm very lazy... until 2 days ago, i got my spirit to play back

[stuck copper]

so i guess people took it more seriously

we knew we needed high AA

[verbal obsidian]

was w12 120 release?

[raw osprey]

why did many folks mention the later chapters as plane hells though

[stuck copper]

ppeople who were playing in closed beta basically cheated

the original w12 was that

they nerfed it

i still took sandy tho

now there are still tons of planes, but they're easy to take care of

[verbal obsidian]

kinda wish they didnt nerf it lol

the story maps are the only fun part of this game

[stuck copper]

i think w13 will bring back the difficulty

[raw osprey]

pls dont

[stuck copper]

i hope so

[verbal obsidian]

likewise

[stuck copper]

on jp server at least i saw some people with 120 pr2 ships only clearing it now lol

[verbal obsidian]

i only truly play when a new world map is released, otherwisei could care less on the day to day grind

[raw osprey]

wasn't w13 on jp released a long time ago or is it just me?

[stuck copper]

people want difficult content to throw their high-level stuff at

its been out for a while yes

i suppose thats what they were trying with challenge mode

[raw osprey]

oh, that mode

[stuck copper]

the only thing that legit banged me in the rear was ember

[raw osprey]

since i'm still lv69 i'm curious of that mode lol

[verbal obsidian]

challenge mode is kinda cool

[stuck copper]

whats ember

EX ember

jesus fucking christ

[verbal obsidian]

ex ember lol

[stuck copper]

ember??

you know those little paper ships that kids play with?

that's what your fleet is

what is an ember

and ember is an actual ship

this isnt ds3

why dont i know it

it was an EX boss

[raw osprey]

i'm confused now xd

[stuck copper]

for what event

ashen simulacrum?

oh i see

takao alter

oh god

[verbal obsidian]

she was cool af

[stuck copper]

i never did it so i didnt know it was called ember

only a handful of people beat her

[verbal obsidian]

i remember thinking "i'll run ayaya and avoid everything"

i got hit once

ayaya went

[stuck copper]

i will never beat ex bosses

[raw osprey]

I'll take that ex is basically 2hu mini?

[stuck copper]

yes

it would be cool if they can add the ex stages as memories

id play them then

[verbal obsidian]

wish we got rewards for doing ex

[stuck copper]

or do they

im fucking glad we dont

only neptunia ex did

[verbal obsidian]

ye that one wasnt even hard

[stuck copper]

oh yeah i remember that one

[raw osprey]

wait, wasn't the rainbow deco thingy the reward?

[stuck copper]

thats the one that made me hate ex

because i couldnt do it

so didnt get the deco

neptunia ex gave the medal

i gave up on the entire event because of that

lol

[raw osprey]

oof man

[stuck copper]

it's not that amazing anyway

looks weird

[raw osprey]

tbh i'm still never get any of those mode clearing decorations

[stuck copper]

its something i dont have

guess i will try again if it ever reruns

or comes into memries

[verbal obsidian]

@raw osprey eventually things will slow down

[stuck copper]

i wouldn't count on collab reruns

ever

[verbal obsidian]

and events will become super easy

[stuck copper]

yeah it sucks

[raw osprey]

I always think my fleet isn't powerful enough for it lol

[verbal obsidian]

i had to focus on work and forgot to whale more for white heart

[stuck copper]

i always think mine is but its not 🙃

[verbal obsidian]

haunts me to this day

[stuck copper]

once you hit the top end, you'll pick your ships based on personal taste

[verbal obsidian]

^

[raw osprey]

lol

[verbal obsidian]

unless youre Aran

or whoever else it was

who only plays "META FLEETS ONLY"

[raw osprey]

reminds me back when i was choosing a PR ship to develop

i chose based purely on my tastes

[stuck copper]

stat chasers zz

[verbal obsidian]

thats how it should be

nvr choose for meta or youre gonna find yourself using like 10 ships repetitively

[raw osprey]

meta, huh

[stuck copper]

or if you go for 120

because it takes so fucking long

[raw osprey]

come to think of it, i dived on this game blindly without looking at ship guides xd

[verbal obsidian]

man yall really hating on 120

[stuck copper]

same

[verbal obsidian]

i still dont use optimal gear or fleet comps lol

[stuck copper]

whats an optimal gear

[raw osprey]

omg same xd

[stuck copper]

if its gold i use it

i know which pieces are good, but i don't min-max

like

[verbal obsidian]

yeah i just know whats "not bad"

[stuck copper]

"this is a good CL gun. here. take it"

[raw osprey]

got scolded on gameplay help due for my poor gear choices lol

[stuck copper]

yeah better to ask here for help

[tight flower]

[verbal obsidian]

is it tho

[stuck copper]

yes

game play help is an elitist gloating room

also, help isn't allowed to scold

[clear gate]

I equip everyone so I'm not super choosy. The ships that I'm using currently get the best gear

[raw osprey]

i just felt the hostileness ._.

[verbal obsidian]

i slap random gear on all my ships so i have storage space

[stuck copper]

i dont understnad why people would be hostile to someone who is not knowledgeable

it makes zero sense

[verbal obsidian]

[tight flower]

feels superior tbh

[verbal obsidian]

because its the internet

[raw osprey]

so i think to myself that it's better to ask here, phew, looks like i wasn't wrong lol

[stuck copper]

because you're dumb for asking a dumb question and not knowing everything, duh /s

midwits//..

[verbal obsidian]

i think of these people irl and how badly i'd fuck them up

at one time it was rei

[stuck copper]

the only reason i got good was from crying about it in here

[verbal obsidian]

[stuck copper]

rei is just playing around tho

[verbal obsidian]

ik lol

it was a joke

xd

[stuck copper]

rei is annoying regardless lol

[verbal obsidian]

it took me a year of being in here

[raw osprey]

any lore on that uhh person?

[stuck copper]

lmao

his name is kinako at the moment

he changes often

[verbal obsidian]

hes just rei, he changes his name every week

[stuck copper]

don't make him look bigger than he is

[verbal obsidian]

hes usually in here at this time

[raw osprey]

[stuck copper]

personality consists of callin g other people dumb

and himself

thats it

nothing else

[verbal obsidian]

fun fact

[stuck copper]

yeah, he has stuff going on irl right now

[tight flower]

who

[verbal obsidian]

he also doesnt even play AL anymore

[clear gate]

Protip: If you're lazy, then only equip AA guns on ships you plan to use in ch12. You literally don't need them in ch11 and below

[verbal obsidian]

hes just existing in here

[raw osprey]

bruh moment

[stuck copper]

thats helpful

one less equipment to juggle

actually, yeah

[raw osprey]

I'll keep that in mind.

[stuck copper]

AA guns are borderline useless in other places

still gotta have a dozen bofors

i have exactly 4 bofors

i have exactly a dozen

[raw osprey]

bofors, huh.. i gotta check that

[clear gate]

I like the roomba more myself

[stuck copper]

i have 2 staags

oh, wait. i skipped one. i have 13

roombas lmao

fucking pom poms look like printers

haha yeah

[raw osprey]

oof man

[stuck copper]

always reminds me of my old-ass canon that i used for school

[raw osprey]

i only got 4 gold aa guns and idk which one is decent

[stuck copper]

4 golds?

anything gold is fine for now

[clear gate]

@raw osprey don't worry about it since you aren't at ch12 yet

[raw osprey]

2 twin 105mm aa gun (sk c) and 2 40mm bofors lol

[clear gate]

They're both good

[stuck copper]

after that, staag for BBs, bofors for almost anything else, roombas for a select few

[raw osprey]

LOL i just realized the roombas

that was funny

[clear gate]

Sandy can make any AA gun work, you can throw pompom on her

[stuck copper]

sandy is a special case, yeah

is that bcs pompom has most aa stat

[verbal obsidian]

my sandy is still 100

[clear gate]

Pompom is subpar but Sandy has god tier AA

So any AA gun works on her

[verbal obsidian]

sandy was not a waifu on the waifu tier list to lvl

[stuck copper]

so do you want pompom on then

[raw osprey]

my sandy is screwed since i have no idea how to get the mic thing in the end of her retrofit

[stuck copper]

oh dear

u needed it from the sandy event

it's just a rule of thumb kinda thing

[verbal obsidian]

it'll probably come around again

[stuck copper]

yeah eventually

[raw osprey]

so it's limited?

[stuck copper]

because you don't want to always sit there and calculate an optimal loadout

yes but you dont need her to be retrofitted

i used normal sandy

[clear gate]

Other AA queens:
Isuzu
Juneau
Atlanta

This is where you can put your lower tier AA guns and have them still work

[stuck copper]

wtf izuzu is ijn

[clear gate]

Isuzu is the weird IJN AA cruiser

[stuck copper]

lol

[raw osprey]

ah, i see lol

[stuck copper]

you know who else is ijn?

kongou

[clear gate]

Also, San Juan is an AA queen

[stuck copper]

first time hearing about kongou lol

[warm bluff]

https://i.redd.it/af3v5fmzyzw31.jpg

[stuck copper]

le malin

[warm bluff]

Le malin so cute

[stuck copper]

yes

is this going to be a loading screen

please god please

[warm bluff]

No idea but i hope so

[stuck copper]

heehee

kongou is ijn, but she looks like hms for historical reasons

[warm bluff]

[clear gate]

She was built in the UK

[raw osprey]

oh

someone told me that having 2 heavy cruisers on a vanguard is ridiculous, anyone have an idea why?

[stuck copper]

no

its not really ridiculous

but it does depend on who they are to some extent

[warm bluff]

They're just a bit slow but that's not important

[clear gate]

Heavy cruisers are typically a bit fragile when underleveled, so it may be a bad idea, but I would not call it ridiculous

[stuck copper]

only problem with CAs is the fact that their survivability is pretty bad until they hit higher levels. they also rely on good gear.

[raw osprey]

yea i guess ._.

[stuck copper]

ye

high hp really means nothing

without a good evasion stat

[raw osprey]

my friend said without ships with torps you're essentially screwed or something

[stuck copper]

which without a washing machine

[clear gate]

Bad evasion offsets the high HP

[stuck copper]

it's primarily the low amount of evasion, so make sure you give them lots

they lack

[clear gate]

Also your friend is wrong wrong wrong

[stuck copper]

entirely wrong

[clear gate]

Gunboats are great

[stuck copper]

torps are wasted in auto

[verbal obsidian]

konguo is cutie blonde ijn ship

[stuck copper]

typically, those two aux slots should be used for evasion

[warm bluff]

I hate using torp botes

[verbal obsidian]

i wnted to ring her but i decided to think with my brain

[stuck copper]

unless you have a PR rudder, then you can make room for something else

[clear gate]

Torps are great for manual play, but are very hit-or-miss in auto

[stuck copper]

mag torps for auto

saint louis/helena/honolulu for op gunboat team

i think

[clear gate]

Even then, the mag torps only partially compensate for the crappy AI

[stuck copper]

something like that

they're a tad more reliable at the cost of damage

[raw osprey]

i currently use montpelier, wichita and minneapolis for my PR grinding fleet, should i replace it or keep it?

[stuck copper]

no torps = no loss of dps

[clear gate]

That fleet is fine

[stuck copper]

minnie is a top-tier CA

oh minnie exists

i forgot about her

[raw osprey]

her skill made her perfect for mobbing tbh lol, it was a blast using her

[clear gate]

Minnie is a good soloing frontliner

[stuck copper]

monty is solid, wichita is a glass cannon

most important thing to remember tbh, is if it seems like its working, then it is

[clear gate]

Wichita kinda emphasizes the stereotypes of heavy cruisers imo

[stuck copper]

if someone tells you its bad but it works

theyre mostly wrong

[raw osprey]

lol yea i guess

[stuck copper]

well, the only thing that matters is whether it works or not, so yeah

whats important is when people tell you what works better

[raw osprey]

i see.

[stuck copper]

it's just that some things can do the same thing better or worse

but that goes without saying

whether you care about it or not is up to you

[warm bluff]

Use sleepy botes like Nicholas since they're cute

[clear gate]

Other stereotypical CAs in my books (hard hitting but slow and frail):

• London Retrofit
• Suffolk

[stuck copper]

yeah, london is fragile

dont listen to inaba he is a meta slave

but she looks good

[warm bluff]

[raw osprey]

i heard london retrofit is up there in terms of power?

[stuck copper]

london essex & york are hotttttt

[clear gate]

Yeah, but she has the durability of paper, so be careful and kit her out with good gear

[stuck copper]

london kai packs a punch, but she can't take a lot

[warm bluff]

Vincennes is pretty high up on the sleepy tier for CAs

[stuck copper]

so place her in the middle

[raw osprey]

so, a DD in form of CA

[stuck copper]

not essex

give her stuff that helps keep her alive

exeter

[clear gate]

DD in the form of CA is Ibuki

Torpedo queen

[stuck copper]

london has thinner armor

light armour ca monkaS

[raw osprey]

i mean uhh um nevermind lol

[stuck copper]

what were they thinking

[clear gate]

A torpedo-focused CA sounds ludicrous, but Ibuki makes it work

[stuck copper]

still waiting for curacoa curlew kai

give me my maids!!!!!!!!!!!

maid kai, good kai

[clear gate]

I personally do prefer using gunboat CAs over torp CAs

[raw osprey]

why so?

[clear gate]

CAs usually aren't torp focused, the torps feel more like an afterthought with subpar damage compared to DD and CL torps

But the guns do work thanks to high FP stats

[stuck copper]

torps are more of a DD thing

london torp or gun aux :3

gun

i think its ver cool

that they can do both

[clear gate]

London gun aux, for sure

[stuck copper]

yes

[raw osprey]

i kinda regret choosing saint louis now due to that xD

[stuck copper]

lots of CAs use torps. they're not bad.

[clear gate]

Hey, I just voiced my opinions

They are mine, you can disagree with me

[stuck copper]

some people just prefer a more reliable solution because they auto a lot

and because their stats don't really favor torps, usually

[raw osprey]

i might do a hybrid build or something if that's possible

[clear gate]

I auto 99% of the time, so I am definitely biased against torps

[stuck copper]

but you can make something like atago work

[raw osprey]

moving my oxytorp from ayanami to her when i got my pr

[stuck copper]

pr rudder, oxy torp, maxed skills

[clear gate]

My biases are like... my biases lol

[stuck copper]

capitalize on that double torp proc

[verbal obsidian]

tldr zulfich, play how u want. Mix and match and grab what advice u find you wanna use

just make it fun for u

[stuck copper]

and she can pack a mean punch

yeah, just try things out

[raw osprey]

alrighty guys, i'll try

[verbal obsidian]

everyone hates on my cranes but i love them

[stuck copper]

just dont give PR louis a beaver badge

[raw osprey]

i feel a bit overwhelmed after months of blind play and joining this discord

[stuck copper]

because that thing will make her crash into everything

[verbal obsidian]

i'm still blind playing

[clear gate]

My rudders are on other CAs

[verbal obsidian]

[stuck copper]

ibucute

that skin is so good

[raw osprey]

dayum ibuki

[clear gate]

Also rainbow torps are so expensive lul

[raw osprey]

and oh

[stuck copper]

yeah man and expensive to upgrade xd

yeah, i have seven of those. constantly bleeding for aux plates

it's a little hobby of mine

[raw osprey]

should i trade my core data for the golden ca main gun there? or should i save for another oxytorp?

[stuck copper]

just collecting oxy torps for no reason

get the shells

BB shells

the gun is good, but there is a PR gun that is just as good

[raw osprey]

there are 2 shells, hmm

[stuck copper]

one of each

but white if u cant

[raw osprey]

only have enough for 1 lol

[clear gate]

The CA gun in core data is slightly outclassed by the Louis gun from Research

[stuck copper]

they're both different and do different things, but it's not mandatory. more of a sidegrade

[raw osprey]

louis gun from research?

[stuck copper]

white one increases crit dmg, black crit chance

[clear gate]

I think the Piercing Shell is usually considered better

Louis gun is the triple 203mm AA Gun

[stuck copper]

also, we don't know how long these will be available

this

i didnt know they were that good actually i can craft 2

[clear gate]

Yeah that

[stuck copper]

but i suggest 3 of both shells and 3 snorkels for now

[raw osprey]

rip

[stuck copper]

snorkels

[raw osprey]

snorkels for uhh what?

[stuck copper]

submarines. not super important.

[clear gate]

Submarines

If you like subs, then buy

[stuck copper]

but since you can only get one per month, it's worth considering

[verbal obsidian]

have u guys found a good use for your subs at all

i feel like they arent necessary at all lol

[raw osprey]

i haven't touched the subs.. yet lol

[stuck copper]

i got another swordfish

[clear gate]

Yes. Escorting underleveled mob fleets @verbal obsidian

[verbal obsidian]

true i guess u can use them for that lol

[stuck copper]

oxy torps are usually for people who have core data to spare

[clear gate]

The extra damage helps there

[raw osprey]

i feel like they're only necessary for that twice a week mission that i find a massively hard time on

[stuck copper]

but they're very good on subs

just super expensive

[verbal obsidian]

pretty much

[stuck copper]

there are people who have core data to spare

[clear gate]

I use them for what I cited, or if I'm lazy and want to clear things faster

[stuck copper]

there are

[clear gate]

The extra punch is helpful

[stuck copper]

not everyone bought 3 CA guns like i did

[raw osprey]

grinding for pr gun blueprints gonna suck..

[stuck copper]

i think aquan had 3k core data or something

[clear gate]

Tbh I haven't touched Minnie in a little while, because she's too good lol

I wanna use other ships

[verbal obsidian]

i'm sitting on 2k core data atm

[stuck copper]

i have like 30 because i bought probably too many shell and planes

[raw osprey]

i'm at 1.1k, after doing 1-1 hard daily for about three months lol

[stuck copper]

dont do 1-1

that's a problem

[clear gate]

I have under 500 CD

[stuck copper]

go higher

yo u get a lot less

[clear gate]

Also do ch8

Pls do ch8

For hard

[raw osprey]

that's what i did when i was very lazy before and i only wanted daily missions, pardon me

[clear gate]

Lol

[warm bluff]

[raw osprey]

1-1 is so quick you can do dailies 6 mins before the login bonus changes

[clear gate]

Yuudachi and Yuubari are in my ch8 hard fleet for now

[verbal obsidian]

zul is only on w9 atm ( i think)

and he struggles on 8-4

[raw osprey]

yep, 9-1 atm

[stuck copper]

he can still go higher than 1-1

[verbal obsidian]

so hard mode wont be good for him

w8 hardmode*

that is

[clear gate]

I recommend ch6 if you can

[verbal obsidian]

giga brain 3-4 for akagi kaga drops

[raw osprey]

automobbing on 8-4 wouldn't scratch my current fleet's hp though, it's the boss that's the problem

[clear gate]

Universe brain lol @verbal obsidian

[ornate mantle]

8-4 is solid.

6-4 is solid

[verbal obsidian]

no u

shut it azu

smfh

[ornate mantle]

[warm bluff]

I'm struggling on 1-1

[verbal obsidian]

.

[raw osprey]

W8 hard is like lv95+, right?

[ornate mantle]

8-4 and 6-4 are great.

[stuck copper]

see what works for you. just get out of 1-1

i do 8-2 because i need cl plates

[ornate mantle]

Can farm decent EXP and possibly get SSR drops

[clear gate]

@raw osprey standard CA loadout that I use 🦊

[stuck copper]

just get them all to safe status

and then you get a defense boost

[raw osprey]

dont have baltimore xd

[stuck copper]

i ground all the hardmode 8 maps to safe

[clear gate]

@stuck copper I do 8-2 because I need the prints lmao, too many cruiser retros

[stuck copper]

and make sure to pay attention the the drops. they all drop different retrofit parts

even 8-3

same revy lol

[raw osprey]

also what main gun is that? he?

[warm bluff]

I haven't even touched 8-3 or 8-4 hard mode

[verbal obsidian]

u can clear mobs and retreat before the boss so it doesnt consume your 1/3 attempts for the day. Do that until u fulfill the clear requirement. Last run do the full clear and u can 3 star all the missions on the same run

[warm bluff]

[clear gate]

@raw osprey I mean this loadout is good on whatever CA

Also that is the triple 203mm SK C prototype, from research. Highest theoretical DPS for CA gun

[stuck copper]

or just do it normally and get stuff later

[verbal obsidian]

no u cal

[raw osprey]

._. oof, research, might gonna take a long time to get one

any alternatives?

[clear gate]

Yeah research is grinding, without the grind lul

[stuck copper]

purple french gun is viable?

[clear gate]

It has the second best DPS of the DD guns lol @stuck copper

@raw osprey twin 203mm SK C

[raw osprey]

oh, cool already equipped that on minnie

[stuck copper]

so gold is top spot and purple is second?

[raw osprey]

also is it bad to put 2 autoloaders on a ca? 😂

[steep scarab]

[stuck copper]

huh???

[clear gate]

Yeah, gold top
Purple second
In very very close third is gold USN twin 127mm

[stuck copper]

neat. thanks.

[raw osprey]

i feel so stupid right now lol

[stuck copper]

u mean that purple french gun that i never used because it wasnt the gold one?

guess my 192 purple prints aren't useless

[clear gate]

@raw osprey autoloader is not great in general

@stuck copper yep LOL

[stuck copper]

oh

good to know

[raw osprey]

yeah, guess so

man, i sticked my ca's with 2 autoloaders LMAO

[stuck copper]

yeah, no

don't do that

give them paint +6 for now

[ornate mantle]

9 levels from being able to MLB my Z1 and get prepared for retrofit.

[raw osprey]

thought they gonna shoot faster or something

[stuck copper]

they do, but the difference is so tiny, you're better off stacking evasion

since that's what they struggle with

[raw osprey]

at what point will evasion be very useful?

[gilded mural]

https://twitter.com/sankakucomplex/status/1192004706069106689
nooooooooooooooooooo

Sankaku Complex (@sankakucomplex)

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[stuck copper]

the question is: "at which point does it stop being useful?"

[raw osprey]

ahh..

[stuck copper]

lmao rip dub watchers

[verbal obsidian]

i'm just tryna clap some cheeks

[tight flower]

english dub

[stuck copper]

thats their problem

[tight flower]

smh

[stuck copper]

evasion gets worse the more you have. that means it's best used when you have very little

which fits CAs

[tight flower]

poor man english dubs ruin everything

[raw osprey]

i was playing the game the wrong way since the start lol

[stuck copper]

and you typically don't stack it on DDs

[raw osprey]

wait, the more evasion you have the worse?

[verbal obsidian]

there is no wrong and right way for AL lol

[stuck copper]

since they already have ~200

[verbal obsidian]

u can get away with pretty much anything

[clear gate]

The more eva, the more diminishing returns

[stuck copper]

exactly

[clear gate]

Adding 40 EVA to someone who has 40 EVA will be night and day

Adding 40 EVA to someone with 140 EVA will be comparatively negligible

[stuck copper]

as a rule of thumb, i would never go below 70 eva

[raw osprey]

ooh, i see..

[stuck copper]

and even then, i prefer around 150

i typically stack tons of eva on my CAs

but ymmv

[warm bluff]

[raw osprey]

how frequent a ca dodges enemy bullets if it's optimal?

[stuck copper]

u mean evasion %?

[raw osprey]

yea, looking for that stat

[stuck copper]

i dont know, people usually just get a feel from the stat number

the actual % is hidden

but its quite high

looks like

it has to be

[clear gate]

Eva % formula is on the Wiki and involves luck, too

[stuck copper]

right

luck matters

LCK

someone like mogami should have more eva

to make up for the lack of luck

[clear gate]

It is why Neptune feels like a damage magnet even though she should be tanky, that 0 LCK hurts

[stuck copper]

so giving her an oxy is riskier than with other ships

& thats why pr has u throwing over 100 more prints at them after dev 30

for luck

it's also the reason sandy kai is a borderline god-tier tank

[raw osprey]

so should go with double navy camouflage for now on a ca?

[clear gate]

Oh yeah, Sandy is like hahaha you cant hit me

[warm bluff]

[stuck copper]

this

yes. you should at least try it.

is this why her barrage procs so much more than 40% lmao

[clear gate]

Nah, LCK does not affect barrage procs... at least afaik

[stuck copper]

oh okay

luck also explains why unicorn > shouhou

[raw osprey]

let's see.. 75 eva + 76 lck

[stuck copper]

beaver badge is better, and so is the PR rudder. but getting those takes a long time, so paint it is. also, beaver is exclusive.

wait holy shit bullins have 100 luck

[warm bluff]

[stuck copper]

why is this not meta

time to make bulin tanks

[clear gate]

It is one reason, yes @stuck copper

The other reason is that Uni has fighter planes and can defend herself from enemy planes more easily, and yes that DOES matter in ch12 in my experience

[stuck copper]

ah the fighters

[warm bluff]

It's not meta because using bulins is boolying

Also unicorn is cuter

[stuck copper]

hmm yep yep yes this is defintely tank worthy

yeah we saw unicorns

[warm bluff]

[clear gate]

Shouhou has better DPS, because she has a dive bomber slot in place of Uni's fighter slot

And that makes her worse at defending, unfortunately

[stuck copper]

uni buffs vanguard rld tho

i love how w12 turns parts of the meta on its head

shoukaku better because more dps, except not anymore

[raw osprey]

hmm

[stuck copper]

sandy shit, except not anymore

yeah its great

[raw osprey]

what's a "beaver pin" again? a hidden aux?

[stuck copper]

niche requirements

[clear gate]

@raw osprey pay attention to carrier limit breaks btw, limit breaks add planes

[stuck copper]

gives you something to work for even if you have everything you "should have"

[clear gate]

And it is different for each carrier

Even Shoukaku and Zuikaku have different planes lol

Shoukaku has one extra torp bomber, Zuikaku has one extra dive bomber

[stuck copper]

beaver badge is a collection reward

[raw osprey]

does that make a major difference?

[stuck copper]

now we need an event that makes ships with the lowest levels do the most damage

for all those sub 70 white ships in dock

[clear gate]

It makes a slight difference, but for those two it prolly won't be noticeable except in reload time. Because the number of each type of plane you have affects your reload

[raw osprey]

ooh, that
ok i need just 1 more star lol, thanks

[stuck copper]

it's a great item for CAs since they also tend to be slower

and it increases speed

[clear gate]

It is more noticeable for ships like Glorious, who has one less plane than most other carriers and therefore is worse by default. Her limit breaks screw her over @raw osprey

[stuck copper]

unless it's saint louis. she becomes too fast lol

[clear gate]

One less plane = one less damage source = less DPS

[raw osprey]

I'll keep that in mind xd
no idea a limit break could negatively effect a ship that much lol

[clear gate]

Yeah, her limit breaks just don't give her that extra plane lol

Most carriers at MLB launch 8 planes per airstrike, Glorious launches 7

[stuck copper]

that doesn't sound glorious at all

should have called her "kinda mediocre"

[clear gate]

Enterprise for example launches 3 fighters, 3 DBs, and 2 TBs per airstrike

Illustrious has infamously bad DPS because she launches 6 fighters and 2 TBs

[raw osprey]

fighters are the planes that only shoots with guns, right?

[clear gate]

Fighters can have bombs, but they are smaller bombs

Only up to 500lb bombs, whereas DBs can have up to 2000lb bombs

In ch11 and below, you usually just use fighters for their bombs. In ch12, their ability to kill enemy planes also matters

But you still should choose the ones with bombs lol

[raw osprey]

ahhhh okay, so ch12 is where those things starts to matter

[clear gate]

The only fighters that are "meta" are those that carry 500lb bombs. Special mention also goes to the speedmeme fighters - the gold Zero, the Me155a, and the Skyrocket - though they are more niche

The Zero is typically considered the "best" speedmeme fighter since it has 100lb bombs, the other two have no bombs

And the "best" fighter overall is probably the gold Pirate Corsair

It has good plane killing ability with six 12.7mm guns, it launches fast, and it has special T0 500lb bombs that do more damage thanks to hidden stats, giving it the most DPS of all the fighters

[raw osprey]

what a good infodump man, ty lol

[verbal obsidian]

i didnt know this was the #gameplay-help

[clear gate]

Lol

[verbal obsidian]

channel

[stuck copper]

i just use hellcats, because i have tons of them lol

[clear gate]

Also, use only T3 and T0 fighters if you can help it

[raw osprey]

it's the friendlier gameplay help i guess

[clear gate]

T2 and T1 have worse bomb damage

[tough burrow]

talking about al in av-gen

[verbal obsidian]

revy barely talks in gen

but when it comes to help

hes always here

[clear gate]

Lol

[verbal obsidian]

a good thing

not a bad thing

[clear gate]

Hellcat is good! Launches slow, but is bulky and good at plane killing, and has the coveted 500lb bombs

[verbal obsidian]

Rest u a bulli

dont think u can start fresh in that Arknights server. We'll let them know

[raw osprey]

yea i too have tons of hellcats and corsair, good thing they're uhh "good"

[verbal obsidian]

@tough burrow

[clear gate]

The worst of the best is purple Corsair

[verbal obsidian]

[clear gate]

It launches the slowest of the T3 planes that carry 500lb bombs

But it kills planes well and it is an improvement over all other purple fighters

Viable even in ch12

[tough burrow]

I have plausible deniability in the form of "probably" @verbal obsidian

[clear gate]

I use purple Corsair sometimes to "stagger" my plane launches on auto

[tough burrow]

[verbal obsidian]

[stuck copper]

we don't get a whole lot of people who want or need help, so we don't talk about it much

[clear gate]

Since auto launches planes when ready, I sometimes use slow planes to force carriers to launch at different times

[verbal obsidian]

^ a lot of us have been in here for like what

[raw osprey]

big brain

[verbal obsidian]

almost a year and a half now right lol

well in game that is*

discord almost a year now for me

[clear gate]

This is also why I keep a couple of +10 TBF Avengers

[raw osprey]

i might come here again to ask, this is a very helpful and convenient channel

[clear gate]

Avenger very slow

:+1:

[stuck copper]

lmao

right now it is

[raw osprey]

does plane speed contributes to the efficiency?

[clear gate]

Efficiency? Nope

[stuck copper]

the calm before the storm

[tough burrow]

well, Rei not here, so ye it is friendly

[clear gate]

Efficiency is a fixed value for every ship

[raw osprey]

._.

[clear gate]

Efficiency is also a flat multiplier to damage

[steep scarab]

@tough burrow

[tough burrow]

[raw osprey]

i had a bad feeling

[clear gate]

200% efficiency means 2x damage

Anyway, carriers clear the screen of projectiles when launching, so sometimes I want to spread those out with slow plane brain strats

:3

Instead of having all my carriers launch at the same time

[tough burrow]

I just enjoy blowing up enemy in a single moment

[raw osprey]

facetorping is my favorite battle related activity to do in AL right now.

[clear gate]

I do admit that plane brain is niche

[stuck copper]

my big brain boss strat: wait for everything to fill up, unload everything, win

[clear gate]

Facetorping is definitely more fun with DDs for me, one issue I have with Ibuki and other torp CAs is that the low speed means that getting into facetorping position is harder

Mag torps help with that

[raw osprey]

do your ibuki dealt above average torp damage?

[clear gate]

But I like the big boom 610mm torps

[cosmic pier]

res

u say something

[stuck copper]

you also have to be careful on higher levels, because if you do it wrong, your vanguard gets melted within seconds

[raw osprey]

seconds?

[clear gate]

Ibuki has two torpedoes preloaded and naturally torp-biased stats and skills, so her torp DPS is better than that of other CAs

[cosmic pier]

@tough burrow im gonna come over and eat your head

[stuck copper]

that's why i transition away from facetorping

[cosmic pier]

[steep scarab]

depends on the enemies you're facing but it's usually at higher leveled enemies

[stuck copper]

great. rei is here.

[tough burrow]

[cosmic pier]

oh no

[steep scarab]

@tough burrow

[stuck copper]

pack it up, guys

[clear gate]

Use Illustrious shield for high level facetorping

[cosmic pier]

the great evil of avrogen is here

[stuck copper]

more like

the big dum

[cosmic pier]

run before he claims your children

[steep scarab]

@cosmic pier

[raw osprey]

well, it's fun to communicate with you guys, i guess i should go to other places

[clear gate]

Illustrious shield is great if you wanna facetorp against a very high damage enemy

[cosmic pier]

smh its depressing how much ye guys taint my public image

[stuck copper]

you're doing it to yourself tho

[cosmic pier]

no u

[raw osprey]

i got a bad vibe coming from here

[steep scarab]

there's #gameplay-help

you can come back anytime here

[stuck copper]

still better than gameplay help

[steep scarab]

need to shoot rei couple of times

[clear gate]

#technology if that is your thing

[stuck copper]

you just have to bonk him until he shuts up

[cosmic pier]

make sure the ammos are lethal

[stuck copper]

@cosmic pier

[verbal obsidian]

ah fk rei is here

[warm bluff]

@steep scarab

[verbal obsidian]

[cosmic pier]

harder daddy

wait that didnt go with the "he shuts up" script

guess im acting outta script again

[stuck copper]

ban

rei is the resident server gremlin, a role he fulfils with great aplomb

he used to make me so mad lmao

[cosmic pier]

peachy is my best fanboy

[stuck copper]

yes i love him so much i blocked him

wow. that's an actual word. i learned something new today.

[cosmic pier]

imagine blocking someone then reading whatever they say anyway

unbreakable love

[warm bluff]

[stuck copper]

it's nice to have options

how is your trip?

are you having fun?

[cosmic pier]

ye boi

reached the destination after 24 hours

[stuck copper]

i only read them when im in a good mood u see

or when rei is in a good mood

[cosmic pier]

heard some great tale of heroism on the way too

[stuck copper]

oh, boy...

[cosmic pier]

the guy can prob make it into fate as a servant

[steep scarab]

@stuck copper

[cosmic pier]

this ambulance parked somewhere to take someone to the hospital, apparently it was in front of someone's parking lot, so they flattened its tires or whatever its called

then the ambulance couldnt make it to the hospital in time cuz of it

and the guy died

pepega/10

[stuck copper]

fucking hell, man

[cosmic pier]

humans are garbo

[stuck copper]

sounds like south africa

dude died because asshole couldn't wait 5 fucking minutes

this is why i call it the turd world

they should legit stone him

[warm bluff]

[stuck copper]

thanks for killing the mood, rei

you are always a reliable source of depression

[cosmic pier]

[heavy whale]

What the fuck

[cosmic pier]

always happy to be of service

[stuck copper]

i didn't need more than 1 hour of happiness in my life anyway

[verbal obsidian]

i mean shit like that doesnt surprise me

[heavy whale]

So someone here gets stabbed because of chicken

Some fucker popped ambulance tires for parking

[verbal obsidian]

lila

i know it was u

[heavy whale]

Wew

I haven't been to Popeyes in a while

[verbal obsidian]

u killed him for that popeyees chicken

[stuck copper]

gonna play some dark souls to lift my spirits lmao

[cosmic pier]

lol

have fun

[stuck copper]

sure

blighttown

everybody's favorite

without the ring that lets lets you run in water

[cosmic pier]

wait

there was such a thing?

[stuck copper]

yeah

[cosmic pier]

i just popped a moss and went thru it

[stuck copper]

go back to the asylum

[cosmic pier]

oh rite that

[stuck copper]

i cant use it anyway. got havels and favor

[cosmic pier]

i did that like right before finishing the game

[stuck copper]

actually, let's not use that abbreviation in here lol

[cosmic pier]

lul

[stuck copper]

favor and protection

[cosmic pier]

rofa was nice

[stuck copper]

this game used to be so intense. now i'm just strolling through it casually

fire keeper soul? fuck it, i'll eat it. don't need better healing.

curse? just dont get hit

[cosmic pier]

eat my soul too

[warm bluff]

[cosmic pier]

[ornate mantle]

I have 50 cubes. This is sad

[stuck copper]

🎻

[cosmic pier]

:despacito:

[warm bluff]

Who are you missing?

[ornate mantle]

No one.

But I’m not safe for next events.

[warm bluff]

[ornate mantle]

I am very unsafe.

[warm bluff]

Hopefully the next event is pretty far in the future

[ornate mantle]

Only 7 more days... minimum 14 more days to save cubes.

[warm bluff]

[ornate mantle]

That’s only like guaranteed 42 more cubes.

[stuck copper]

looking forward to the next event. should be something fresh, right?

inb4 fw rerun

[warm bluff]

There's also 2 weeks for the next event probably so even more cubes there

You'll be fine!

[stuck copper]

nice. free medals.

oh

azu

big cubes

[warm bluff]

Pls no back to back event

I'll die

[stuck copper]

nah

[warm bluff]

[stuck copper]

nani

just free stuff

[warm bluff]

[stuck copper]

im drooling for those 20 cubes

10 free pulls

or 20 if your doing light

[warm bluff]

[cosmic pier]

[heavy whale]

Cubes

[stuck copper]

big cubes

[cosmic pier]

smol coobz

[steep scarab]

just my feeling but i think KC poi "stole" the dog concept from AL poi

[cosmic pier]

just my feeling but ok

[stuck copper]

i forgot KC even existed

[warm bluff]

Cute!

[cosmic pier]

[steep scarab]

@cosmic pier

[cosmic pier]

can you bite harder

it doesnt hurt at all

[stuck copper]

he's a kinky one

[cosmic pier]

he just aint biting hard enough

[warm bluff]

Poot where do you get all your cute pics?

[cosmic pier]

even weaker than that cat that bit all over my hand

[verbal obsidian]

its called the internet ina

smfh

[cosmic pier]

same place you get your loli lewds

[warm bluff]

So nowhere

[verbal obsidian]

ina thinks hes clever

[warm bluff]

No I'm pretty dumb

[somber halo]

you're pretty lewd

[warm bluff]

No I'm not!

[stuck copper]

what's your favorite thin book?

[somber halo]

Message to Garcia

[stuck copper]

i dont really read them lol

except for that one atago one