wiki-feedback

[quiet raven]

Interesting

Russian IPs. I see

[jaunty mantle]

not ‘Russian’

but specifically Rostov-na-Donu pools of дурдом.ру

[quiet raven]

Yeah. I guessed the guy’s location correctly. He can’t access the wiki

[jaunty mantle]

tell him to use a less fucked up ISP with less fucked up script kiddies

[quiet raven]

Not like he has a choice

[jaunty mantle]

well I cannot really do much

I tried removing the block and the guy who flooded the wiki with requests returns in like 2 days tops

and since it is a dynamic IP pool when I ban a specific IP he just resets his session

last time I removed the ban was in late November

[quiet raven]

DDoSing a wiki must be one of the weirdest things to do

[jaunty mantle]

it is not a DoS technically, he just uhh

crawls every single URL, in a loop

and does it with at least 16 simultaneous connexions

[quiet raven]

Weirdo

Anyway thanks for actually answering

[jaunty mantle]

@quiet raven I am going to try relaxing this ban for now

[quiet raven]

Now fix Bogue History page or I riot

Jkjk

[jaunty mantle]

wat

[quiet raven]

#wiki-feedback message

[jaunty mantle]

what do I have to do with that

[rugged trellis]

the fix would be to remove the page

[quiet raven]

Damn. Nuclear option eh

[rugged trellis]

history belongs on wikipedia, not the game wiki

[quiet raven]

I was just thinking about removing the line “She, actually, sunk 13 submarines during the war; eleven German and two Japanese”

[quiet raven]

I think the historical references in skills are fine

[wraith tendon]

The question I have is why isn't this just "The 12 strikeouts refer to submarines she sunk" in the Notes to the quote. And then nuke the page

[quiet raven]

Yeah. That would work even better

Since it would be in line with the rest of the ships

[tulip scaffold]

for me history on wiki is fine as long they're quotes/memories/skill notes, anything more is not needed

[jaunty mantle]

Life is like a hurricane here in Azur Lane
Race queens, strippers, seaplanes
It's a ship-game!
Might solve a mystery or rewrite history!

[hidden rain]

Could have just a notes/references tab on quotes, do away with history o_o

[native arch]

would you rather have a world war or extremely horny world peace

[native arch]

wdym i slept with someone last year with 0 vaccine doses and im still alive

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/742206130414944398.webp?size=48&quality=lossless

although they were full vaccinated so i guess that might've helped

no

but

i managed to fuck up grammar so hard the whole english language collapsed

i meant

i had zero doses at the time

and they were fully vaccinated

[hidden rain]

So... is your take a concentration camp a day keeps Covid away?

[native arch]

you mean

use condoms

and abolish capitalism

im memeing

as long as its either

horny with protection

or horny that doesnt result in reproduction

we're gonna be

a-ok

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/719460583094616157.gif?size=48&quality=lossless

are you telling me

that you have something against

platonically telling your bros that they look submissive and breedable

[bitter hornet]

getting offtopic here

[jaunty mantle]

cool jingoism in wiki feedback channel

[hidden rain]

Does fictional 2D counts as protection?

[native arch]

yes but the intention is

to protect yourself from reproduction with 3d people

not to protect yourself from 3d people

also go to wiki off topic or something because i dont wanna get banned

[hidden rain]

Several years too late for that

[jaunty mantle]

upgrading mediawiki

there will be errors and issues right now

[left cliff]

where would you put historical notes to their look and skills then?

[jaunty mantle]

oh I forgot to mention, upgrade complete
upgrade note: the mobile view has been temporarily changed

[wicked portal]

Is this place are for Koumakan website admin?
If yes, I want to know how to show koumakan quotes page without its gone in 2 secs, i want to see ship line especially valentine msg but those wiki website seems error on that page (gallery, & quote tab) in ships detail.

[rugged trellis]

what

[rugged trellis]

can you give us an example of what exactly your problem is

[wicked portal]

If i want to choose "Quotes" or "Gallery" on specific shipgirl, the page content is gone after 2 secs.

[wraith tendon]

Probably tabber content not being displayed like this guy, what browser are you using?

[wicked portal]

Im use ucturbo.

[rugged trellis]

yeah that's the same issue

[wicked portal]

And i tried google chrome, but it same.

[rugged trellis]

then you used a chrome version <84 (released 7/2020)

[wicked portal]

So how to show that "quote" and "gallery" tabs normally like 1 or 2 months ago?

[rugged trellis]

until we have applied the fix and its propagated through all caches to all users

or use the newest version of any of the mainstream browsers

[hidden rain]

Hmmm, main page? At the very bottom? I mean we moved the gallery due to size, quotes due to size, but this would just be a few lines of text, right?

[sick glacier]

Gotta Add An Shan's Armour break to the Armour Break list on the Combat page

[balmy mauve]

should be there now

[fresh storm]

Hello, I've just went to check the wiki and I found a broken page
The page in question is Ayanami's and the problem is the wrong layout
The rest of the wiki looks fine, even other character pages
This is what it looks like to me :

[native arch]

scroll to the bottom and click desktop

although the page isn't supposed to look like that anyway so we'll look into it

[hidden rain]

Yeet mobile

[native arch]

also wasn't that from ferry's experiment earlier today

[fresh storm]

yes I know I was viewing this on my PC BTW, and as I said the other pages are fine

[native arch]

yes i know you know

the fucking problem is that it happens on pc

[fresh storm]

ok, it's good to know that you know

[native arch]

and it's been like 2+ years and we still havent solved the problem

because it's still a bloody mystery why the wiki likes to serve the mobile page to desktop users

[jaunty mantle]

it is something tripping the mobile device detection logic in Varnish

[quaint stream]

The combat page uses the term "accuracy" as synonymous to "hit rate" while skills' description both in game and in wiki uses it to refer to "hit stat". I believe this can lead to misunderstandings so i propose replacing it in the combat page for some other term

[balmy mauve]

Accuracy = hit, they are used interchangeably; however, we as a wiki should discuss what term to use though and stick with it throughout i agree

[wraith tendon]

Not what they meant, on the Combat page the Accuracy they marked is used for the hit rate rather than the hit stat

[balmy mauve]

oh

[quick portal]

in the fleet tech page, CV rld still does not take into account chen hai
the maximum leveling bonus and maximum total bonus is 1 less than the actual max

[balmy mauve]

yes the bottom two charts are not updated yet, however the top two charts (collection and lvl 120 bonus) should be updated afaik

[pallid frost]

I'm in the process of converting it to be autogenerated, so probably won't manually update it for the time

Already 95% complete

but

lazy

[hidden rain]

Smh. Good thing the rest of us aren't lazy cough

[pallid frost]

[raw ether]

Azur wiki broken at Chapayev page?

[pallid frost]

Scroll to bottom and click Desktop

Just the usual wiki confusing your user agent with mobile devices

[raw ether]

Oh wow, I never used it on phone thou and iM on pc all time

[jaunty mantle]

@raw ether not to worry, you people usually come here with this problem 2-3 times a day

[unique radish]

This thing is a regular CL gun, not smth like Surcouf gun that only its intended user can use. (Even Zeppy -- the only other CV-ish chara I have that can use CL -- can use it.)

[coral vigil]

fixed

[hidden rain]

Its use was probably never set, Bearn only appearing since it was appended to all CL guns by bot.

[somber charm]

how much proof is needed for a character to be "claimed" by an artist?

[native arch]

pretty sure it's if the artist posts the art themselves or retweets an official port

[somber charm]

based on the art style alone do we have any idea who belorussiyas artist is?

[native arch]

could you be horny by any chance

[somber charm]

no

[native arch]

oh really?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/605521425855676447.webp?size=48&quality=lossless

[somber charm]

i was just wondering if it could be dishwasher cause the new UR reminds me of her alot

i found a retweet of belorussiya fan art by dishwasher but thats about it

[hardy hull]

Dishwasher is generally very open and proud of his art (deservedly so) so if it was him - you'd see way more than just a retweet of fanart

[native arch]

[somber charm]

yeah i was thinking that too

but the artstyle seems similar to me

that was definitely my main hesitation though

[native arch]

Personally I don't think it's dishwasher, purely from the artstyle

I guess we'll find out eventually

[tight hatch]

Does wiki has data of possibility about Akashi percentage appear in OpSi?

[tulip scaffold]

afaik nope

[jaunty mantle]

Revel in suspense as no one knows percentage volumes

It is likely server side nya so the only way to have anything close to accurate data is to collect statistics from as many players as possible, no?

[somber charm]

yeah i definitely dont want to pre-emptively place her anywhere

im just looking for evidence

[pallid frost]

do blatant copyright infringement and see which one is named in the ensuing lawsuit

[hardy hull]

Yostar

[pallid frost]

The papers will at least contain the record of the chain of custody tho. That way you might even get the artist's real name. And then you're wondering who's that on pixiv....

[jaunty mantle]

That way you might even get the artist's real name
you will very likely not if a Japanese citizen is involved

pen names are legal names

I know illustrators who are employed full time with HR documents having no mention of their real name

[hidden rain]

But the creators are listed ON the loading screen

[bitter hornet]

just learn Japanese

[teal hawk]

It's the solution that worked for me

[tight hatch]

Does wiki have data about possibility in what SSR are included in this one?

[native arch]

nop

unless?

[bitter hornet]

99% you get a common

[native arch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/896125424277528666.webp?size=48&quality=lossless

[signal grail]

To my knowledge, this can only give elites, the SR icon is a lie 🖌️

[balmy mauve]

there are people who have gotten sandy from it

so its possible to get a gold

its just we don't know the rates

nor the entire pool of gold ships that can drop, although its theorized to just be base game not event affiliated golds like sandy

[native arch]

it's more likely to get an SSR from thin air than that commission

[lilac maple]

why does bismarck use her smiling expression as the icon?

[austere bone]

Because she's happy that she has two songs after her over Hood

[hidden rain]

That's the shipyardicon, go ask the devs?

[lilac maple]

it's not

[hidden rain]

It was uploaded by Nozokana, an actual developer of the game so

[tulip scaffold]

it probably got changed later

[wraith tendon]

Do you rly want her to not smile

[native arch]

I like the smiling version better too

[austere bone]

She deserves to smile after all this time you know, especially when their roster is expanding

[native arch]

biscuit

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/805114613011841034.webp?size=48&quality=lossless

[slim halo]

the memories page for Winter's crown only has the first 3 chapters

[coral vigil]

try refreshing but I will make an edit to move english first

[coral vigil]

ok try now but you might still need to refresh a few times. That new tabber is still wonky.

[slim halo]

fixed, thanks

[somber charm]

are these people the same person? https://twitter.com/imlllsn https://twitter.com/as0680992

お (@imlllsn)

Followers

589200

Tweets

8556

Twitter

Cirilla Lin (@as0680992)

illustrator 中文/ENG
PIXIV:https://t.co/QK4SeM4sYV
personal web:https://t.co/NnnAgHWGiN
contact:[e-mail]
https://t.co/T6dwxHwIzx

Followers

196109

Tweets

6705

Twitter

[split coral]

no

[somber charm]

imlllson is labeled as the artist for duca/foch/uvh

[teal hawk]

That would be because they are

[somber charm]

im asking because on first glance they have very similar art styles and they draw almost exclusively the same characters so i was wondering if one of them was the second account

[teal hawk]

Cirilla's a big fan of imlllsn/ohisashiburi and draws all their creations almost religiously

Not the same person

[somber charm]

ahhh

that makes alot of sense

[native arch]

i dont agree and i dont agree

cirilla's drawn a bunch of french ships too

ohisa almost only draws their own ships

[somber charm]

good for you?

[tulip oyster]

the med dps here is wrong, it should be 43.143

1.1* 108 * 3* 1.15 /(9.2+0.3) = 43.143

[wraith tendon]

Did you remember absolute cooldown?

[tulip oyster]

thats what the +0.3 is

[wraith tendon]

I'll look into it

Hmm we're using a modifier of 110% vs med is that wrong?

Yeah seems it is

[tulip oyster]

yea its 115

[wraith tendon]

Fixed

[tight hatch]

Have wike update all new character barrage yet?

[unique radish]

reporting in for D1/D2's fuel caps:
D1: 29 escort, 39 flagship, 15 sub
D2: 32 escort, 43 flagship, 16 sub

[balmy mauve]

yes we are aware, its the same as the last major events with oil cap

[native arch]

didn't know d1 and d2 had oil caps ngl

[celest trout]

Is this new ur worth it?

UR ship*

[pure thunder]

#gameplay-help is the right place to ask

[native arch]

the objectively correct answer is yes

[undone lily]

Can this https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/List_of_Large_Cruiser_Guns be updated to show the CB ammo characteristics like the shell speed and splash.
Seems like there's enough CB guns now to justify moving that table over from https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/List_of_Heavy_Cruiser_Guns

[wraith tendon]

I think it's also there since you can equip CA guns on all CBs so in case you want to compare them

[undone lily]

Referring to this table in the CA guns page

[wraith tendon]

But yeah ig that table should be on that page either way

[undone lily]

Fair enough, but having it on both pages seems fine now that there's 4 guns and they're actually worth comparing

[wraith tendon]

Yeah idk why that table isn't on both pages anyway

[frank blade]

Wiki don't like phones anymore

[balmy mauve]

change to desktop view on your browser, or by scrolling all the way down

mobile view has always been broken

[pallid frost]

Browse in landscape, at least you get this

[white burrow]

Triple 305mm considered as CB in the wiki.

Link: https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Category:CB_Gun

[wraith tendon]

Hmm it is not technically considered a CB gun, just the double page for that gun creating problems there

[hidden rain]

The page is correct (it got both CB and CA on it). The icon is @quaint stream

Fixed now

[wraith tendon]

BB you mean, but yeah

[wraith tendon]

You added the icon to both BB and CB categories even though it's a BB gun

In exchange you didn't add the CB icon to any category

Yep. In wow Odin and Ägir use the same gun after all

[balmy mauve]

Might be better to make them seperate pages

[cobalt sandal]

why is the wiki loading so slowly even though my internet is fine and i can open other websites very easily?

[jaunty mantle]

maybe you are located in Oceania or South East Asia

[undone lily]

guys, this unlock requirement looks like it should've been a comment
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Abyssal_Refrain#SP-2

[balmy mauve]

Na its just there so ppl stop spamming "hey why is x blank not filled in yet"

[undone lily]

now you have people spamming "why does it look like a comment"?

[wraith tendon]

It's there so ppl don't think there's no requirement
probably

[hidden rain]

No, if it was a comment it would say "To Do: Beg Nobby"

[lone sand]

Hello,
I got banned from the wiki, is this the correct channel/medium to inquire about this issue ?

[tulip scaffold]

do you have a ban message or something?

[lone sand]

Here's the current error response :

Access Denied

You have been banned from Azur Lane Wiki. You may want to contact Squad 404 regarding your circumstances; please note that you will need to figure out how to do this yourself, just like how you figured out it was a good idea to engage in whatever you thought you could not do without.

Reason: automated requests.

Do please enjoy your stay♪.

Sincerely yours, UMP45.

What I believe to be the cause has been taken care of (an old server exposed to internet was hacked and used as an attack point for what appear to be dos, I am however not sure as to why AL wiki was a target and the rate was quite slow at around 2 request/s)
The server was taken out and all access related cut off.

[teal hawk]

@jaunty mantle's call to make then, you'll have to wait out to hear from them

[slim halo]

think something broke here

EN text gone

thx

[wraith tendon]

Probably just new tabber, try reloading a few times to get all tabs to show

[rotund hornet]

I dont think that belongs there

[bitter hornet]

should be fixed

[rotund hornet]

nice

[frank blade]

#MakeMobileWikiGreatAgain

[hidden rain]

Just click desktop on the bottom...

[crimson rock]

Is anyone actively updating the Historical Ships by Nations page? I noticed the two most recent events don't have the ships included there.

[wraith tendon]

Must be too hard to just link the page. But I guess it's a user page so up to them

[jaunty gust]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Skill so are we keeping this or no

[tulip scaffold]

fixed for now

[jaunty gust]

fair enough

[silver sapphire]

Link to JP twitter is busted

[pure thunder]

should be fixed now

[cedar glade]

did the web version is broken ?
the mobile version looks good.

[quaint stream]

Either the web or mobile version are broken, never work at the same time

[bitter hornet]

Chrome and Edge both use Chromium so

my Chrome hasn't been updated

my Firefox hasn't been updated either

actually, its fine for me when I'm logged in

might be a cache issue

@jaunty mantle can you check varnish cache?

[jaunty mantle]

hmm

should be fine now

[bitter hornet]

ctrl+f5

[lone sand]

@jaunty mantle May I have an update on this matter please ?

[jaunty mantle]

what is your current IP that you get that error for

[mild halo]

Try to turn off any of your proxy/vpn, clean the cookies, and fully restart your modem
Try to use googledns or cloudflare incase somehow your isp block the access

[barren bobcat]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Equipment_List
just a small note, i think Gear Lab should be added to the list at 3.

[wraith tendon]

But you can't obtain equipment there, just convert

[native arch]

i think it counts

[native arch]

ok

"It counts."

you can basically upcycle gear prints into actual gear so you can most definitely "obtain" gear from the gear lab

[wraith tendon]

That's creating gear from gear prints so just point 2

[tulip scaffold]

[thin wadi]

you can also get them by buying them from event or core shops, or as point rewards from events

[undone lily]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/w/index.php?title=Port_Eating_Contest
Mini games don't usually have pages, but could an exception be made for this one?

Yuudachi's meat perfume links to an empty page, would be better if there was something that would show when the event happened and what has to be done to get it

[undone lily]

that sucks, guess I'll just bring it up when the rerun happens

[pure thunder]

i only care about waifu

[teal hawk]

I blame Hassat

[signal grail]

you could be shameless about it and take screenshots from some yt video

and there's not many rules to speak of

[teal hawk]

Gotta draw the line somewhere

[teal hawk]

This is the best bet tbh

[hidden rain]

It was simply click when in the middle of the bar, rinse repeat 7 times. Not quite worth a page

We'll add a minigame page once the devs add their dang minigame hub they said they worked on in 2020

[radiant junco]

not sure if it a single mistake or not, but anyways
On Ayanami's page (mobile wiki version) voice actor link to Wikipedia (through image) leading to "W image" page, not voice actor's page

[tulip scaffold]

that's only the icon, the link is actually the name itself

[radiant junco]

Its the link to /wiki/Voice_Actors page
Not global Wikipedia

[tulip scaffold]

but it shouldn't work this way

[tulip scaffold]

that's how it should work, then on Voice Actors page have a link to their page or something

[radiant junco]

The name always leads to /wiki/Voice_Actors and the image to global Wiki
On Ayanami's page it's not working this way

Try other girl's pages

[bitter hornet]

mobile

[balmy mauve]

Switch to desktop view and see if the issue persists

[tulip scaffold]

tried a few, names links to wiki/Voice_Actors like Ayanami VA name does, icons links to wikipedia icon links

basically it's a matter of "who put what" when adding VAs to ships

[radiant junco]

on desktop there is no link to /wiki/Voice_Actors. The name just leads me to global Wiki. Normal Wiki page, not "W"

[balmy mauve]

[radiant junco]

yea, i see 😄
but I think it should be fixed sooner or later

[balmy mauve]

theres a lotta inconsistency since wiki ppl have come and gone over the years, we will try and unify everything to one standard at some point but since theres a lotta examples of this it will take a long long while so plz be patient

[tulip scaffold]

yeah, they just were not added consistently

[balmy mauve]

[tulip scaffold]

lemme fix them

[balmy mauve]

Not just for VA stuff, its also in other places as well that we are aware of

[tulip scaffold]

[radiant junco]

I can just link you every example of this, not hard work.
I'll do if there is someone who will really edit this staff then

[tulip scaffold]

that's why we costantly work

[tulip scaffold]

we have tables for that, it's fine, thanks anyway

[balmy mauve]

[radiant junco]

okay, fine

And another one 😄
What's with anchors on /wiki/Voice_Actors ? Any links with #voice_actor_name not scrolling me into any row in the table.
Whereas on the artists page this works just fine and scrolls me into needed row

[tulip scaffold]

module was missing anchors, unlike artists, should be fixed now

[cinder willow]

"Fixed" Wikipedia links

[hidden rain]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Special:RequestAccount

[hidden rain]

"info": "- Event Details -\nPlay the Port Eating Contest minigame for a total of 7 days to get Yuudachi's exclusive retrofit item. A new minigame round will become available every day until 10/6.\n\n- How to Play - \n· When the game starts, a cursor will appear on the game screen, sliding across a colored gauge.\n· Tap the screen to stop the cursor.\n· You'll receive points based on where your cursor stops along the gauge. The green portion rewards the most points, but you'll lose points on the red portions.\n· You'll receive credit for completing a round when the game timer reaches 0, or you manually exit from the game."

Knock yourself out

[tulip scaffold]

one of the cutest events ever, never gonna forget that cygnet

[teal hawk]

[teal hawk]

In development hell, just like my AAgun rework

I'm still waiting

[hidden rain]

Right there with the melee weapons

[tight hatch]

Can wiki predict the future?

[quaint stream]

The wiki is written by humans, so let's reword that, can humans predict the future?

[modest forge]

I know this is unrelated to #wiki-feedback but curious when and where was this said?
First time hearing this even tho I started and followed AL when DC first happened.

[hidden rain]

It was on a JP anniversary stream. Might have been 2019 now that I think of it.

[wraith tendon]

Nah it wasn't that long ago unless my mind is fusing 2 streams into one

[modest forge]

I see, thank you

[fickle scroll]

can't scroll to the right here

wait, nvm it came back

[alpine grotto]

DR luck is incorrect, should be 3/4/5/6/7
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Research
https://i.gyazo.com/d0c2acdcbe0573bd3af115d45ef7ba56.png

[coral vigil]

epic math fail

[tight hatch]

wait what

[balmy mauve]

yes tallinn is admiral hipper class

she was constructed by Germany and sold to Russia

[tight hatch]

[austere bone]

It's like Richelieu, Jean Bart, Gascogne, and Champagne there.
They are of the Richelieu Class but are from different factions though

[thin wadi]

Missing Weser, too

[burnt nacelle]

History

[frank blade]

so i had this bug where i accidentally pressed on the middle empty skill box
i couldnt really seem to be able to do it again
now im just curious if theres anything in the game files that could kinda explain what this is
like an unreleased skill or maybe it was a skill in development but didnt get released but its still in the game files or something

[hidden rain]

Probably just the placeholder, like 9999 medal items in the medal shop.

[frank blade]

#bug-reports message
would this be the same kind of thing?

[thin wadi]

yup that seems about right

[limpid junco]

Seems like warspite stats does not match

[wraith tendon]

Hmm yes, wonder if that could have anything to do with you oathing her

[limpid junco]

Ah yes

Brb gotta calc

[hidden rain]

Guess someone should add the "stats are 100 affection" to mobile view (not me though, f mobile view)

[limpid junco]

After a quick calc, i find that they match with ~ +0.5%

Seems like there is some rounded values playing but they match

[wraith tendon]

Yeah values are always floored

[wraith tendon]

switched when? To me it looks the same as the last idk >year

[hidden rain]

Fairly sure it hasn't been changed. Then again I use desktop on my phone myself so (even though some claim its unsable. Still dunno why)

[wraith tendon]

It's not unusable
Just a pain in the ass in some ways

[hidden rain]

Not as much as mobile view... on mobile. But again Not going into that fight again.

[velvet raptor]

Is there a wiki page for Ash (Enterprise) and Ember (Takao)?

[tulip scaffold]

no, there's no data about them

only memories references

[pure thunder]

b-but soyuz is the same but have her own page

[austere bone]

Because they are teasing us with Soyuz since she was supposed to be playable at one point

[hidden rain]

I think it was mostly since META didn't exst then so there wasn't really a good name to give them, and people didn't place them in gallery for some reason. But if we got the proper images of them on the wiki, sure, we can give them pages now.

[quaint stream]

Speaking of that

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Sovetsky_Soyuz

Shouldn't this article be updated to mention her appearance in the Abyssal Refrain event?

[white burrow]

can't find barrage info for UvH, Scharnhorst META and Gneisenau META

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Barrage

[somber charm]

none of the surface torpedoes say that agir can use them

[tulip scaffold]

fixed

[quaint stream]

The spread info for the deutschland gun is different from in game. And this seem to be a rare case of the wiki being wrong instead of the game. I went and tested it, and it seems like at some point they really did turn it into 0 spread

[hidden rain]

There is now

[hidden rain]

[twin barn]

wrong gun?

[balmy mauve]

fixed

[thorn cave]

Is the voice lines for the new ships gonna get updated?

[teal hawk]

Eventually

[bitter hornet]

™️

[leaden sandal]

the wiki page of yamashiro meta says that she has 2 main gun base but also says that she gets +1 main gun base at both first and third limit break so either she starts with mgm 0 ( ) or there is wrong info on her wiki page

[balmy mauve]

fixed

[hidden rain]

She has 2 main gun bases... see also #known-bugs

[somber gulch]

Dimbreath's table at the bottom of the page https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Fleet_Technology seems to be outdated, CV reload sums up to 34, not 33

[rotund hornet]

Is the % supposed to be missing?

[wraith tendon]

Yeah they have a 10000% chance, but we thought that'd be a bit long \s

For the future pls send a page link too though

[rancid tartan]

hey, shouldn't base stats be listed at 50 affinity instead of 0 affinity?

[fickle scroll]

Idt 0 affinity affects stats

[hidden rain]

0-60 is 0%

[pallid frost]

item #2907 on the list of things the game doesn't tell you

[hidden rain]

Now works as you meant?

[rancid tartan]

Okay then

[native arch]

fixed

[light birch]

Can the equipment skins from the Cruise Pass seasons be added to the Equipment Skins page on the wiki?

[real bridge]

are the opsi memories complete?

[hidden rain]

Doesn't include chapter 5

[rare iron]

There's the new twin 135 too
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Combat#Shell_Type

[teal hawk]

Updated, thanks

[wraith tendon]

When the text says they pierce but 2/3 don't

[teal hawk]

I was hoping someone would notice

[wraith tendon]

You're welcome
But yeah BB guns not piercing should be obvious

[green umbra]

wiki doesnt show universal UR print as possible reward from C4 Abyssal bosses, while it is present in game https://i.imgur.com/klyFs0K.png

[wraith tendon]

Hmm did that change?

[thin wadi]

pretty sure it always has been possible to get

[wraith tendon]

[hidden rain]

I haven't gotten a single UR drop for the entire year I kept track of it... if it drops, I need proof. It must be even rarer than the 0.1% gemdrop from the guild (that also has yet to pass for 1 year+)

[thin wadi]

pretty sure I got a UR print from a C4 at some point

[green umbra]

#trophy-room message , theres a bunch more if you look for it in trophy room

[thin wadi]

yeah, I looked through Mrglrglrgls server and found like three posts of such drops by one guy, and another posted one too

[signal grail]

I can attest to that as well, I definitely had UR prints from C4 abyssal

[sage glade]

remove the 2 spreadsheet links as they are dead

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Research_Academy

[somber charm]

do we know any of the artists for the sirens?

[hidden rain]

Both rare rolls at once? Wow... that has to be super super rare.

[austere bone]

It's a 1% roll to get that, along with anything else that isn't coins

[tulip scaffold]

happened the same to me a few months ago

every % is separated

[hidden rain]

I know, but getting 1% and 0.1% at once is... well, 0.001% chance. If my math doesn't fail me.

[wraith tendon]

Yeah that's correct, but what you see there is 5% and 1% at the same time

[hidden rain]

Ah right, the prototype gear upgrade part is 0.1% (still, even after a year I've yet to hit that 1% either)

[wraith tendon]

I got the upgrade part 3 times already, but never gems

[austere bone]

All I've been getting is just coins and nothing else mostly

There will be that rare moment I get something else, but that's like a super rare drop of sorts

[buoyant condor]

a confirmation that commander exp doesn't seem to be penalized by fighting enemies over 20 levels higher than you

[balmy mauve]

what wiki page needs correcting?

plz link it

[buoyant condor]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Experience

[balmy mauve]

i cant fix it rn but it helps ppl who are available to fix it

thanks

[buoyant condor]

more clarifying than correcting tbf

A gap between commander level and enemy ship level diminishes the XP gain: a 21-40 level difference halves the XP gained, and a 41 and above difference reduces it to 1/10 of its original value.
specific section: should specify it is only penalized if the enemy is below your level, not when it is above.

[wraith tendon]

I'm currently failing at reformulating that sentence

[buoyant condor]

for that matter, you could also add that in opsi, the penalty begins at a 31-60 gap, and a 61+ gap

also the commander exp gain in opsi is different, but idk the formula for it

[balmy mauve]

"If your commander level is 21-40 levels above the enemy's level, XP gain is halved. If your commander level is 41+ levels above the enemy's level, XP gain is reduced to 1/10 of its original value."

[buoyant condor]

also while im here actually, i forgot about this but also

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Commissions#Urgent_Commissions

should also mention that opsi battles (which don't count as campaign battles) can trigger urgent comms as well, but at a lower rate

[balmy mauve]

well rates are unknown

but we can mention that opsi battles have a chance to trigger it sure

[buoyant condor]

well anecdotally the rate is lower for sure

[balmy mauve]

well anecdotally the drop rates for the not akaga gold drops are around .75% but we dont list that so

[buoyant condor]

ive run c1 well over 1k times and ive also farmed 2-1 a ton. i can tell you campaign triggers more often, by a noticeable amount. though of course, no exact percentage will ever be known

[native arch]

isn't it just because a sector clear in opsi takes the same time as like 3 c1 clears

[buoyant condor]

actually, im not 100% sure if it triggers from a battle, a sector clear, or both.

[wraith tendon]

I mean we also don't mention the chance from entering a campaign map, it's whatever idc

good night

[buoyant condor]

but for example each c1 = 2 fights while 2-1 = 3-4 fights fights both last around 15-20s. i dont think it's a big difference? but i absolutely got more frequent comms from 2-1 lol

[native arch]

sounds like asspain to investigate ngl

[sick glacier]

could add Scharnhorst META and Gneisenau META's ghost guns to ghost gun page yus?

[balmy mauve]

@pallid frost idk if its on there yet but this concerns you

[wraith tendon]

It's not, I noticed it ages ago, but was too lazy to put it on there

[pallid frost]

[leaden sandal]

On the Operation Siren page at the (voucher) Exchange Shop section it says that Classified Files Mission Logger is: Available: 1 (Total). Wasn't this changed so you can buy it every month? If so then it seems that it wasn't updated on the wiki yet.

[pallid frost]

Are you sure it got changed? It doesn't show up on mine. It doesn't make sense to be available multiple times in the first place.

[leaden sandal]

i guess i was wrong then, i can't find anything about it in the patch notes either

[sudden bay]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Chapter_8

8-1 through 8-4 have wrong amount of cog chip rewards for hard, put as 100, 150, 200, 250, when it's 250, 350, 450, 550 in game.

[tulip oyster]

Can we get a list of skills affected by the inital start of battle delay in the skills page?

because most timed skills arent, but it seems like emergency maneuvering, drake's life steal, and carabinere and san fran's heal are affected

#gameplay-help message
#gameplay-help message some proof

[snow folio]

ay uhh where's the loading screen with three characters, one javelin another is yamashiro and i forgot the other one

i sort the wiki by latest (or maybe it is the default sorting) but it not exists

[balmy mauve]

oh that one

Its the one with yamashiro jav and unicorn right

Thats decently old so it should be on the wiki lemme check again

[balmy mauve]

Its there btw if this is the one you looking for

[snow folio]

so its an old one

sorry then my bad

😔

[balmy mauve]

[wraith tendon]

Could it be that SF's AoA has a 15% slow?

[wraith tendon]

I doubt you're right about emergency maneuvers, the example shows it being barely a second late, too.
Not to mention that all the other skills activate a certain time after checking ship position which I currently see as a hot candidate for being the reason for the delay

The Helena thing also first checks for the equip

[balmy mauve]

Yes

I believe she does

Check riceists datamine

[wraith tendon]

I put it in anyway, no time to check

[balmy mauve]

[onyx dagger]

Gneisenau drop history should also list Tower of Transcendence A3,C3
U-557s should list Tower of Transcendence B1,D1, as they are currently missing that

[hidden rain]

Probably should remove U-557's actually since it was really only added since she wasn't in the perma-pool back then (she's now). Probably should on Gneis since still a wildcard...

Done

[wraith tendon]

I don't rly get why it is not "interesting" that she drops in Aurora Noctis while it is "interesting" that she was a pt acc ship in "Opposite Colored" rerun

[hidden rain]

One's their origin event where they're released at, the other is just a mapdrop of a limited event you cannot really prepare for (and was, like Gneis, really only added since she wasn't in any pools, she's now though).

[last moss]

yamashiro meta ingame somatic activation states she gets main gun base +1 on first LB and third LB, but the wiki doesn't mention the mgm+1 on mlb and states she only has 2 main guns

is the game wrong or is the datamine wrong

[wraith tendon]

Well she is currently coded to have 2 mgms, #known-bugs

Wat

1LB and MLB say mgm +1 in game, default 1 +1+1 is 3 with my math

[harsh nexus]

ye it looks like the devs took her post retro stats instead of preretro

[last moss]

oh its reported in bugs, ok

[pallid frost]

Well, the actual lb code doesn't actually add mgm so wiki follows her actual performance data, for now

Fluff text not matching actual data isn't uncommon in this game anyway

[modest forge]

should now include Research Series #3 with the update a couple of months ago.
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Research_Academy#Catch-up

[coral vigil]

rttt(read the tooltip)

[cunning narwhal]

weren't JP/CN supposed to get Ashen Simulacrum in war archives last month? it's not at https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/War_Archives

[bitter hornet]

they are getting it tomorrow

[hidden rain]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Events#War_Archives_Additions (Missing so far is EN side and Ruuyuu but waiting for EN patchnotes on those)

[signal grail]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Battle_Tracto_Max#Special_Main_Gun-0
Does Battle Tracto Max as a gun not get improved coefficient with upgrades +11 - +13?

[pallid frost]

I don't actually have one to check myself but yes, the gun should be a snapshot of 152mm MK5 at +3, +5, +8, +11 and +13 respectively

[coral vigil]

+10,11,12 = +11, +13 = +13

[eternal copper]

The wiki is missing Achilles as a drop from D-3 Winter's Crown for that one odd person who cares

[hidden rain]

We've only added WA drops to ships that are drop only. Cause lazy
Or you mean she was added, haven't gotten around to add the few new ships, and 100% reqs, and oil limits yet

[austere bone]

[balmy mauve]

for those ppl reacting with spee what, a tracto at +10/+11/+12 is equivalent to a chappy gun at +11, and a tracto at +13 is equivalent to a chappy gun at +13

[frank blade]

not a big deal but i noticed that this skill shows the hamamaman icon while the other 4 ships use the other one

[eternal copper]

I meant in the full list of ship drops for D-3. I checked it while grinding out Dork because Musketeer refused to drop and my list had Achilles. At what point she was added though I dunno

[frank blade]

also another thing thats probably just me
the blue for uss kinda makes me think its a rare ship and not elite

[sage glade]

why are the cat base talent pages different? I think the one for oscar's page is good because it has an explanation for them

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Oscar

vs lime https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Lime and most of the others

[bitter hornet]

@hidden rain

[hidden rain]

Probably last thursday

[balmy mauve]

Did you check in game to make sure that hamm doesnt have that icon there? cause it could be devs messing up and we are mainly messengers here

[wraith tendon]

Their point is that we use the Hammann icon in the skill table even though 4/5 ships have a different icon
Which tbh I personally don't rly care about

[balmy mauve]

well if it matches in game it makes sense though right

[wraith tendon]

?

There's 5 ships with the skill, Hammann uses icon A, the other 4 use icon B, we use icon A as "main" icon for the skill

[balmy mauve]

oh thats how it works

[wraith tendon]

Tbh I think you misunderstand me once again lol

[balmy mauve]

I think i did too

[wraith tendon]

We have different icons on the individual ships. The issue is just that this is a table in which every skill can have only one icon atm

[balmy mauve]

ah yea makes sense then

[red knot]

Javelin oath skin is missing in unlockable skins /wedding https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Skins

[hidden rain]

Fixed. For some reason an old leftover translation made it not appear...

[tulip scaffold]

I'll fix this

[velvet tiger]

Chapter 33 of Upon the Shimmering Blue is missing from the Memories page.

[tulip scaffold]

damned on-combat memories
I'll upload it soon

[velvet tiger]

Oh right it's a story battle cutscene.

[velvet tiger]

So the events' stories where Enterprise META shows up now have her banner as regular Enterprise's. I recall seeing that the file was named EnterpriseAlterBanner, and it seems the wiki now has a proper Enterprise_METABanner file, but uh, I think only OpSi and more recent events (like ToT) had it fixed. Older events like Ashen Simulacrum now have this issue.

At the same time, Scharnhorst META has regular Scharnhorst's banner in ToT.

[tulip scaffold]

'cause that is not handled manually, maybe both shipskin templates (Enty and Enty META) in files were the same for Ashen Simulacrum lines

but I'll further investigate this after I'm done with on-combat memories, thanks

recently I've been doing an huge overhaul for memories and their navbox, feedback is what I want to read the most

other than these two things, I'm aware options colors (half-new feature) aren't set past option 2 yet

[tulip scaffold]

as proof, in in-game ToT she's named as "Scharnhorst" rather than "Scharnhorst META", which is what is causing that

[velvet tiger]

Yeah I was going to say that it's possibly that, an automated thing that associates the banner with the name, which makes sense.

So my guess was right.

[tulip scaffold]

but if notified or something, we'll surely change them to properly banners, since the ship in the background is still the META's

maybe in the future I'll make it support ship image references rather than actor names, if I'll ever get to find a way

[tulip scaffold]

fixed!

[velvet tiger]

Awesome, thanks.

[pallid frost]

You can already put custom name independent of the image name tho

[tulip scaffold]

yeah, after I'll upload missing on-combat chapters

[tulip scaffold]

fixed both everywhere

[velvet tiger]

Awesome.

[tulip scaffold]

[hidden rain]

[somber charm]

did the colour for the normal carrier icon become a lighter shade?

[jaunty mantle]

where

[hidden rain]

@quaint stream ^ (I know you reuploaded them)

[jaunty mantle]

you lost me

[fallen gulch]

on this page https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Aurora_Noctis#Map_Drops the oil calculation is wrong, the editor forgot to include the 10 oil for entering the stage, d3 for example 35*6(6 mobs)+47(1 boss)+10(entering stage) = 267

[sage glade]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Aurora_Noctis

Actually called "Remnant of..." something (ingame it clips but u cant search for it with aurora noctics or medal)

[sage glade]

could it be possible to add a sort by highest/lowest value for the dorm decoration page similar to the equipment pages? https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Decorations

[slim notch]

Remnant of Light is the name, by the way.

[somber charm]

it seems to only be a problem when clicking on gear using the community tierlist
not sure what thats about or if that is something you guys even have control over

[jaunty mantle]

wow that is weird

@somber charm can you provide a link to that tier list thing

[somber charm]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Vought_F4U_Corsair_(VF-17_Squadron)

[jaunty mantle]

no

the page from which you go to it

that triggers this issue

"when clicking on gear using the community tierlist"

[somber charm]

the tierlist link?

[jaunty mantle]

yes

[somber charm]

https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/main/bb

[jaunty mantle]

uhh

where in this do I get the link to that page

[somber charm]

the cv section then double click on one of the reccomended planes

for one of the cvs

[pallid frost]

That doesn't even makes sense

[jaunty mantle]

I can only find the regular Corsair there

[somber charm]

i think it shows a lighter cv icon for all gear linked on the page

[pallid frost]

ectl host their own image, so at least there should be no cache shenanigans
Not that it should be possible in the first place

[jaunty mantle]

all right it does not do that for me

going to check in private browsing

does not happen either

[somber charm]

it still does it in private browsing for me

[jaunty mantle]

which browser are you using

[somber charm]

opera GX

[jaunty mantle]

hmm

only the CV and DD icons are affected, right?

[somber charm]

seems so

[jaunty mantle]

@pallid frost have these icons ever been actually changed in game?

colour-wise

[pallid frost]

Shouldn't be

[jaunty mantle]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Special:ListFiles?limit=50&ilsearch=CV_img&user=

[pallid frost]

We always use modified version with flattened and removed transparency since '19

[jaunty mantle]

@somber charm can you please right click the erroneous icon and open image in a new tab?

what is the link to the image you get?

or just copy image link

and while you are at it, still try to open it in a new tab and press ctrl-f5 in that tab

[pallid frost]

Or at least that's my version until snowy reupload them
Appears the same, functionally the same, idk why the reupload tho

[jaunty mantle]

no

[somber charm]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/File:CV_img.png

is that it?

[jaunty mantle]

uhh how do I speak English

@somber charm can you please open the aircraft page above the way you get it to show errors?

[pallid frost]

How come XX_img.png even appears in equip pages

[jaunty mantle]

then move your mouse cursor onto the icon with the wrong colour

press and release the right mouse button

and choose ‘Copy image link’ in the context menu?

I want to see that exact link

[somber charm]

https://azurlane.netojuu.com/w/images/thumb/b/bb/CV_img40.png/30px-CV_img40.png

this?

[jaunty mantle]

that is the correctly coloured image

all I can assume is your browser is broken

try to reproduce in MS Edge or something

I mean uh

not that is can even be broken that way

[pallid frost]

Does opera still do server-side compression or something?

[jaunty mantle]

because you cannot get the wrong image by just changing the file name

[somber charm]

problem persists in microsoft edge too hmmm

https://azurlane.netojuu.com/w/images/thumb/b/bb/CV_img40.png/30px-CV_img40.png

[jaunty mantle]

that is the correct image though

I can try wiping it from CF but like

[somber charm]

that shows up as the wrong one for me

if its just me that gets it its fine

it doesnt bother me
i just thought this was a universal problem first

[jaunty mantle]

@somber charm all right, so I sent a purge request to our CDN just in case, please try reproducing the issue in about a minute or two from now, but once you hit the problem, press Ctrl-F5

I highly doubt that is the problem though

I am not sure how could CF mis-cache the file when they are completely different URLs

@pallid frost by the way exactly two pages still include the old image but they are user pages

so I am not sure why the thumbnails are even generated

oh

probably because of this https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User_talk:Elodie

and this https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Suffolk/Phoney_War:_Player_VS_Player

[pallid frost]

They have different names, it would be quite serious problem if they somehow got mixed up

but yeah, can replicate that Opera does get the wrong image for the 30px thumb

[jaunty mantle]

wild

[pallid frost]

but not on any other browser

[jaunty mantle]

I tested in Edge and Firefox

@pallid frost does it still get the wrong image if you open the image in a new tab and force reload?

OH

before that

can you save the image and sha256 it?

the wrong one

[pallid frost]

yes it is

[somber charm]

huh weird cause i still get the wrong one in edge too

[jaunty mantle]

on Windows you can use Get-FileHash in powershell

[pallid frost]

Chrome: 4ae98456f38dc84a91554fe05768a436cc13c920aa7be534886e5d29094ab984
Opera: 15c93ab4323eb448a047bc67bdbfa35b11396583049e40ea03cbc8724d88f0c2

[jaunty mantle]

thank you

[pallid frost]

exact same uri

[jaunty mantle]

it does not match azurlane.koumakan.jp/w/images/thumb/d/d1/CV_img.png/30px-CV_img.png

lol

[somber charm]

i also get it in chrome too

idk if they are using operas resources or smth

[jaunty mantle]

wait

15c is right

wtf

right. what is going on here.

goes to research

[jaunty mantle]

@somber charm we found the cause

thanks for the report

[sage glade]

(btw idk who or when you guys act on these suggestions but thank you for implementing/fixing the things so fast. Makes using the wiki a lot nicer ^^)

[hidden rain]

@pallid frost (Think you looked over it with the other big convo)

[pallid frost]

I already add it like 5 hours ago

[hidden rain]

(It was there so you knew why I pinged you

[signal grail]

The recent reduction of clears required for 100% actually applies to hard mode maps as well. Their pages are not updated to reflect that yet.

[hidden rain]

Just 2-1 for now... rest will be updated later

[thin wadi]

What was it?

[somber charm]

who was nagatos original artist?

[bitter hornet]

Her original art artist is the same one as Shouhou

[teal hawk]

They're probably asking about the artist who came up with her initial design before Alisa came into the picture. In which case it's mzt, Shouhou's artist

Something something artist drama something

[somber charm]

thanks!

[jaunty mantle]

solid background is edited, transparent are originals from the game

[undone lily]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/List_of_Fighters#Max_Stats-0
List of fighters page lists T0 bombs below T3, T2 and T1 when sorted by ordnance. Is it possible to make a special case for the sorting?

The fighters page only has this case, but the list of torpedo bombers page has the same issue for most of the planes

[pallid frost]

We currently don't even tag those column to sort in a specific way so it currently left to JS to sort them however they see fit

I'm not even sure how it should be sorted if we're going to make it properly sortable
Sort by bomb type first, then weight, then tier, then amount?

[undone lily]

yeah, sounds about right. Seems like it's doing that right now, but with just T0 below T3-1 because smol number

[velvet tiger]

Does the Wiki still have Takao META's banner for the story pages? Because Ashen Simulacrum uses regular Takao's.

[hidden rain]

@tulip scaffold

[tulip scaffold]

I missed her when I fixed the others

I'll fix it now

[tulip scaffold]

can't find Takao META banner, not yet a thing

[undone lily]

@hidden rain How the fuck are you here lmao
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Category:Style_Events

[tulip scaffold]

[hidden rain]

event wip

[hearty girder]

pog never knew he was a azur lane event

[barren bobcat]

isnt NJ's armor break proc chance 100%?
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Combat#Armor_breaking/shattering
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/New_Jersey

or is the skill description on the wiki misleading

[tulip scaffold]

"50% (100%)" refers to the chance of triggering the barrage, critical hits being guaranteed, description says nothing about armor break proc chance

or Idk

[signal grail]

the datamine says the chance of armor break is 50%

[barren bobcat]

the skill on teh wiki reads "The barrage inflicts Armor Break to enemies it hits." making it sound like 100% tho. its kinda confusing

thats y i asked

if its 50% maybe add it to the skill description itself

[sage glade]

maybe make this "max danger level" to be consistent?

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Combat

[dusty bridge]

Very insignificant note that probably have no practical impact, but the 120mm qf mk1 doesnt say its available in the gear lab, despite being so

[sick glacier]

Barrage info for the newest Sardegna girls still isnt on the Barrage page

[slate parcel]

found a minor mistake on the C1 Node map for Winter's Crown Rerun event. the highlighting ship is not on the map of possible spawn position.

[balmy mauve]

fixed btw sorry for being a bit late

[balmy mauve]

this is also fixed btw sorry for delay if nobody told you earlier

[wraith tendon]

I think calling two different things LevelAdvantage is a bad idea anyway, but too lazy to rework / couldn't think of a good alternative name

[pulsar eagle]

I still find it odd that the equipment scrap list tells you to keep ar197 while also tells you to scrap bf-109t

[jaunty mantle]

can you link that list

as in, provide the link to the page with said list

[balmy mauve]

Its bombz

As in

Its his userpage

[balmy mauve]

Gotta ask bombzen as its his userpage and thus his personal content

@topaz dune

[jaunty mantle]

aye

@pulsar eagle: anything prefixed with User: is not considered part of the wiki

[topaz dune]

it doesn't

read the preamble

it doesn't tell you to keep the ar 197, it just says to note that it can craft into something useful

it's not on the list of keepable blues

[hidden rain]

Why would you craft a messersmitt... now if it's the homing torp Ju-87 D-4 made from the Ar 195. Are you SURE it's not the 195?
EDIT Okay, it lists them both, but I don't think myself keeping an 197 for that line is even remotely worth it, since even the messer itself is under "questionable" and drops like flies from T4 boxes

[balmy mauve]

its for the focke

[hidden rain]

Does anyone use that thing?

[balmy mauve]

idk

you can argue its pointless for all current content

but you can take that up with bombzen

[tight hatch]

Wiki team still not have logo yet?

[balmy mauve]

we do

its just

mods need to go through a whole ordeal of role sorting and stuff

and we just waiting on that

[harsh nexus]

the true wiki logo is

[hidden rain]

No its murm

[pure thunder]

||murmass||

[jovial gust]

Yuudachi's burn isn't included here

[harsh nexus]

fixed

[barren bobcat]

very minor: looks like these 2 got flipped somehow
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Dockyard#Retrofit

[hidden rain]

Fixed

[muted nimbus]

what happen, same on other browsers, no cookies, no cache, other people the same

articles are ok just main page

got weird

[signal grail]

it opened in mobile mode for some reason, the link to the desktop version is at the bottom

[jovial gust]

Valiant's skill has unclear wording. Is it saying 8% extra dmg to all sources of damage or 8% to only shelling?

(The reason I ask is because AvP introduced an armor break that doesn't affect shelling, so I'm not entirely sure)

[wraith tendon]

Only Shelling

[fickle scroll]

hey where does this pic of agir's chibi come from

it's different from her actual rigging

and has flight decks for some reason

is there like a "agir_but_CV" file in AL?

huh

[slim halo]

well uh

[fickle scroll]

well, it's different from the ingame version

[slim halo]

the one on wiki is incorrect yeah

[fickle scroll]

ingame version

what is it?

[slim halo]

wait so it's an actual mistake in the game then

[slim halo]

I checked the wiki, it's not someone else's rigging that got used by mistake

it's like an edited version of agir's, someone would have had to draw it out

no not on the wiki side, it would have been on the dev side

probably made a change during development, forgot to edit the fleet tech sprite

guess we found an easter egg or something

will do

[jovial gust]

Is there a damage reduction page on the wiki? I know that damage reduction is multiplicative, but I heard before that specific damage reduction is additive (like 20% torp reduction and 5% torp reduction makes 25% total torp reduction)

If this is true, how does this interact with omni damage reduction? If I have overall 15% damage reduction and 15% torp reduction, do I mitigate torps by 30% or by 27.75%?

[coral vigil]

It's here but perhaps not obvious https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Combat#Final_Weapon_Damage

There's no such thing as damage reduction per se. Just damage modifier. modifiers can be positive or negative. DamageBonus, AmmoModifier, EnemyDebuff, and HunterSkill are the main types. Everything currently fits within those categories.

[somber charm]

is this emdens artist? https://twitter.com/ydh2101

YD (@ydh2101)

R-18 @ydh2101_18 @OrangeMaru_ FANBOX https://t.co/vN7hpuvkKs.

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[somber charm]

i just saw the solo retweet

or is this them? https://twitter.com/gujianshaonv

大母鹅⚓️ (@gujianshaonv)

工 具 人

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[delicate cedar]

https://twitter.com/96mimo414/status/1519256938021761024

ミモザ@5/3スパコミ東2キ30ab (@96mimo414)

この度エルビングちゃんのイラストを担当させていただきました！よろしくお願いします！

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Twitter · Apr 27, 2022, 10:07 AM

found Elbing artist

https://twitter.com/srghrg/status/1519275052621262850

掃除朋具 (@srghrg)

アズールレーン様にて巡洋戦艦リュッツォウ担当いたしました。よろしくお願いいたします！
#アズールレーン

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Twitter · Apr 27, 2022, 11:19 AM

and Lutzow

[delicate cedar]

i believe it is that guy, since all the comments are saying good work on emden

[hot robin]

There's a typo issue in the Vichya Dominion tab

Double ares instead of one

[wraith tendon]

Btw if Vichya is a major faction then what's a minor faction?

[cinder willow]

China?

[hidden rain]

Sirens. 0 ships

[hot robin]

Doesn't exist
Every faction is a major faction minus the collab ones

[thin wadi]

HMS, look how long it's been since their last event

[delicate cedar]

https://twitter.com/honippo/status/1519966440757272576

hou (@honippo)

『アズールレーン』ザイドリッツ担当させて頂きました。よろしくお願いします！

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Twitter · Apr 29, 2022, 9:06 AM

Seydlitz author

[fickle scroll]

When you guys gonna give the EN version of the final few chapters

[rugged trellis]

i don't give i only take, and i have taken all the chapters

[pure thunder]

||wtf give back ||

[pallid frost]

[sage glade]

can we add this table to https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Sugary-Sweet_Käsekuchen

Table from other NPC events e.g.
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Today's_Debut✩Tomorrow's_Star!

[hidden rain]

You... do know they only translate the second part hours before it lauches, right? It's the patch you downloaded today.

[fickle scroll]

Didn’t you guys have some of the day 2 EN lines before the day 2 patch

You were up to the low 20s

[sick glacier]

Yall realise that Yorck and Roon are not sister ships right?

[somber charm]

yeah

yorck is part of a different roon class

[pallid frost]

We're aware of that, it's just that we yet to decide how to best convey it that also not confusing to non-historians

[somber charm]

yeah, i can definitely see the problem with 2 different roon class sections

[pallid frost]

Same deal with the Dresden+K'berg thing

Conventionally it would be the WWI Roon that takes precedence with the fake one getting relegated, but gameplay wise it's practically the opposite

...or rather "community-wise" for the latter

[mental fractal]

Hmm, what are the options:

• Wikipedia uses years, but might not be intelligible to non-historians
• SMS vs KMS would work in this case, but possibly not in the future if we get King George V (1911), South Dakota (1920), etc.
• "Priority" by itself is likely to have the same issue

[signal grail]

Roon class, Roon(SMS) class, Konigsberg class and Konigsberg(SMS) class
or
Roon class, Roon(1903) class, Konigsberg(1915) class and Konigsberg(1927) class

[somber charm]

maybe a superscript 1 and 2 could work as well

although personally i like the years

[mental fractal]

I think I like years, it may be a bit arcane, but it has a proven track record on Wikipedia

The only awkward part is priority which is very paper and thus won't have great historical years.

[signal grail]

That's why I just omitted the year for PR Roon class

cause never built

[pallid frost]

One thing for sure is that SMS and KMS are the worst possible choice

[somber charm]

in world of warships when they create a fictional ship they give it a made up"year of design" which could be followed

[bitter hornet]

SMS has 2 Königsberg classes

[pallid frost]

And KMS being completely fictional

[austere bone]

Blame WoWs as to why it's KMS Roon and not SMS Roon

[bitter hornet]

huh

[austere bone]

[somber charm]

or just go the violent chaotic route and put her in the nürnberg class

[quaint stream]

I reported this over a month ago and it still has not been addressed

[delicate cedar]

It gets more confusing when the actual ship, Roon in AL was drawn to be P-class Panzerschiffe, not the wows design

[fickle scroll]

Just write Yorck (Ww1 Roon class) and Roon (PR Roon class)

I haven’t played the event pt.2 yet but apparently there’s a chapter with a crossroads reference after first clear of d3, but I can’t find it on the wiki memories

[exotic sail]

While not of huge importance, something to point out. The event wiki page shows 1500 crest as a reward for clearing SP, but the reward is supposed to be gold. and the daily mission for 1 non event hardmode is 150 crest, but wiki shows 100.

[fickle scroll]

Like where is this in the wiki

[tulip scaffold]

if it's the combat chapter, it'll be uploaded in a while

we got the hotfit not so long ago
or I forgot

[tulip scaffold]

can you tell me which chapter is that?

[fickle scroll]

Uhh

Apparently it’s after the first clear of d3 according to Reddit

Idk I haven’t played part 2 yet

[tulip scaffold]

that's a yes then, the "Defeat the boss of B3/D3"

[fickle scroll]

Is it up now?

[tulip scaffold]

yeah

oh wait, some issue appeared

that issue is beyond my capabilities

[fickle scroll]

Bruh

[tulip scaffold]

basically there's just too many story lines, and page limits got hit

JP story currently doesn't have some chapters, as a workaround until we further investigate the issue, the rest is fine to read

[drifting obsidian]

umm can someone adding event Call to Arms: Iron Blood Event phase 2 at Koumakan Wiki? i cant do progress at AL JP

[fickle scroll]

Any way to maybe add it as a separate page?

I don’t want to constantly redo that cutscene in AL especially because they refuse to add a “see all text” button

[tulip scaffold]

currently doing some tests

[fickle scroll]

[tulip scaffold]

you can already read it btw

[fickle scroll]

Where?

[tulip scaffold]

chapter 30, same event memories page

[fickle scroll]

It’s the same

[tulip scaffold]

reload clearing cache

[fickle scroll]

How do I do that

[fickle scroll]

Did that, it’s still not there

Ch.30, right?

[tulip scaffold]

I only know the desktop method for clearing cache, sorry

[tulip scaffold]

yus

[fickle scroll]

tried ctrl+f5 on laptop, ch.30 still has nothing new

[tulip scaffold]

hmm weird, I can see on both mobile and desktop, I'll try purge

[fickle scroll]

nothin there

[tulip scaffold]

[fickle scroll]

my patience wears thin

[pallid frost]

WTF happening here

[teal hawk]

[fickle scroll]

so "ghosts of another past"isnt showing up on the wiki

ch.30

[teal hawk]

Shows up just fine for me, have you tried opening the page in another browser yet?

[noble stone]

Genshin dialogue moment

[fickle scroll]

tried on edge

no use

[bitter hornet]

cloudflare

probably

[pallid frost]

How cloudflare even do that?

[fickle scroll]

i dont have cloudflare

dude

[pallid frost]

Look at the bottom of the page, what it said on the last modification time

[fickle scroll]

30 april 2022, 0:09

[pallid frost]

LMAO

[teal hawk]

Yeap, Cloudflare

[tulip scaffold]

[pallid frost]

not this shit again

[fickle scroll]

[pallid frost]

[teal hawk]

Don't thnk there's anything we can do for you

[fickle scroll]

i don't have cloudflare tho

[tulip scaffold]

it's not on your fault

[teal hawk]

^

It's not about what you have or don't

[tulip scaffold]

it's how it gets delivered to you

[fickle scroll]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/870066265677520976/946648788901187614/Rakugakisegsspasm.gif

i pay you guys a ludricous 0$ a hour to do this

[tulip scaffold]

what was the solution last time this happened?

[teal hawk]

Pretty sure we called on Ferry

[fickle scroll]

wait but why can you guys see it

but i can't

[tulip scaffold]

'cause things are different for those logged in

[fickle scroll]

can one of you guys just send some screenshots of the page then

[pallid frost]

@fickle scroll okay, as weird as it might sounds....

Try to switch to mobile view and then back to desktop view

[fickle scroll]

now it works

[pallid frost]

now I have more questions

...

[tulip scaffold]

let's add it to our mysterious archive, where the "page loaded in mobile view, scroll down to switch to desktop view" also is

[pallid frost]

when mobile view is actually helpful...

[tulip scaffold]

isn't there like... an expiration date for whats stored in cloudflare?

I mean how come it stayed on for many hours even after requesting changes

[jaunty mantle]

How did you request changes

Timeout is 4 hours but sometimes their stuff breaks

[tulip scaffold]

not me

[jaunty mantle]

CF is only used for images

Pages are not cached by CF at all

[balmy mauve]

Sorry about that, currently CB guns are treated by the wiki as vanguard guns while in the game they are treated like BB guns, which caused information to be wonky
Its been an issue for a while
I brought the issue up to my senpais so hopefully they will do something about it

However that being said, if you go to the list of large cruiser gun wiki page, and look at the table that tells you the armour mods for the ammo, that spread value is accurate

[teal hawk]

@balmy mauve Fixed

[balmy mauve]

[quaint stream]

thank you very much for looking into this. you too @teal hawk

[balmy mauve]

[velvet tiger]

Chapter 32 of Rondo at Rainbow's End is missing Compiler's warning lines.

[tulip scaffold]

it will be fixed soon

[velvet tiger]

I figure it's the <> that's causing an issue.

[thin wadi]

yeah, that'd be my assumption too, that the parser is futzing out because of that

nice table bro https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Rondo_at_Rainbow's_End#Milestone_Rewards

[sage glade]

🤔 is it only me but ships like Emden and Queen Elizabeth don't get quick search dropdowns on the wiki

[jaunty mantle]

nothing does, search index is being rebuilt

[thin wadi]

huh, how come?

[velvet tiger]

I want to ask, when you take stuff like names from cutscenes, do you see what variable the name is attached to? Because Chapter 31 of Rondo has both Aoste and Metalena as "Male Researcher", and I want to assume that's because the variable is the same for their name labels since in CN they're both "? ? ?". I don't know if you guys have any access to the code like that to see that shit, but if you do, it might shed some light on the confusion.

[velvet tiger]

...And I was just confirmed this in #al-lore. Welp.

[pallid frost]

Actor name are explicit, in plaintext
Names referenced on the storyline itself sometimes are plain text, sometimes template for substitution

In your specific example:

{
  "actor": 9702010,
  "actorName": "Male Researcher",
  "bgName": "bg_port_chongdong",
  "say": "Oh my. I never knew Sirens could be so sentimental.",
},

9702010 is ID for HelMet

[hidden rain]

900307 is the Male Researcher Aoste, so not much alike at all for it to be a typo .

[velvet tiger]

Odd.

Intu said the name variable is the same for the two of them.

So maybe it's something in the game's code itself that you guys don't have.

[coral vigil]

Most likely EN localizers got it wrong but then CN completely missed Scapa Flow whereas JP/EN were apparently correct all this time.

[hidden rain]

This is that line in CN, so nope;

      {
        "actor": 9702010,
        "actorName": "？？？",
        "bgName": "bg_port_chongdong",
        "say": "构建者在临终之时对于自我存在做出感慨还真是少见。",
        }

[pallid frost]

I think you might misunderstood the localization process
It's common during l10n to break up sentences into several phrases and/or grouping commonly used phrases into one instances to be translated.
That way a phrase can be viewed as variable during l10n process, while it isn't actually one in the prod.

[tulip scaffold]

I just extract what's there, sometimes langs have different actorNames

[tulip scaffold]

[velvet tiger]

So hold on, are you saying that the JSON there is what the game is calling for the cutscene itself?

Or is the JSON what you guys get when you export the game's data?

[hidden rain]

We don't mythically get different data than the game uses.

[velvet tiger]

Because what I was assuming is that there's like... Two variables for an "unknown person"'s name, like unknown_1 and unknown_2. Unknown_1 gets used for Anzeel, but unknown_2 ends up getting used for Aoste and Metalena, so when unknown_2 gets changed from "? ? ?" to "Male Researcher", that causes both Aoste's and Metalena's name labels to be changed to "Male Researcher", even though they're supposedly different actors.

[hidden rain]

That's not how any of this works

[velvet tiger]

Weird, then.

[hidden rain]

Not really, every node has it's own portrait and name

[velvet tiger]

No I mean it's weird how Metalena's name also got changed to that.

[jaunty mantle]

I think you are misunderstanding something here, no one would break sentences into parts

I am saying this as a localisation engineer and a translator who works in game localisation

[pallid frost]

Not exactly sentences, but something like <actor> : <situation> <talk> would

[jaunty mantle]

What you typically do is use macro/variable expansion

[tulip scaffold]

that's what I do:

if the line has withoutActorName set to true, or actors (generally a list when there's more ships speaking) is empty, or if the only actor there is has id < 1, then it's not a ship, so I end up putting actorName (if the first condition is true, then just no actor)

otherwise I elaborate ship names both for banners and display names (in case of different shown name or CN/JP)

[coral vigil]

The issue is CN doesn't call Helmet Male Researcher but ? ? ? instead. That's a game localization issue. You'll just have to deal with it.

The issue probably extends from earlier where ? ? ? did mean Male Researcher but then right now the EN localization team is 1 for 1 while the original CN story completely missed Scapa Flow so who knows which is actually correct.

In any case Wiki is correct.

[pallid frost]

Sometimes you do wonder what the actual storyline source is

[tulip scaffold]

fixed, even chapter 30 had a few missing lines
thanks for reporting

[velvet tiger]

Glad you were able to get it fixed.

[tulip scaffold]

basically we used to sanitize the lines from html tags, so everything inside angular brackets would have been cut out

[noble stone]

It's a coding error, but they are out of office

Hopefully we can get the fixes in for memories but it's too late for the memes, futa helmeta is now a thing

[hidden rain]

Hunglena

[delicate cedar]

Still no clues as to who the author of Yorck is?

Oh

Nvm i suppose

https://twitter.com/106858_/status/1520980812807606272?t=iGc16M8q1jT4scTQUcN9RA&s=19

CharlesC / 피버셀 (@106858_)

アズールレーンで 期間限定建造中旬、洋艦 ヨルクの イラスト作業を担当しました。
ありがとうございます。
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Twitter · May 2, 2022, 4:17 AM

Right as I look, I see the author's tweet

[thorn cave]

Thicc thighs

[pallid frost]

Interestingly this one is the less-thicc thighs version

[gray dagger]

is there an example of a ship that's has different retrofit artist from original

I found at least two, but seems like they're not credited.

Do we have a system/examples of how to credit multiple artists?

[rugged trellis]

imagine if people asked this for 2+ years but we just ignored it

we've talked about implementing this multiple times but nobody ever did it

[hidden rain]

Probably because while it's hard to find ship artists, it's even harder to find ship-skin artists

[gray dagger]

wait, yall don't just copy artists off of cn wiki?

that uh... wasn't sarcasm

seems like more work to do the research twice, no?

[bitter hornet]

CN wiki isn't always correct either

[balmy mauve]

Which is why we do our own research, or yall do it for us and post results here