wiki-feedback

[jaunty mantle]

not from game display

[terse field]

so, there's a chance that game data and game display don't line up?

[jaunty mantle]

happens more often than you think but I'll poke people who poke data

[terse field]

that's a pretty big bug there, makes you wonder which numbers are the correct ones. data obviously as that's what the calculations are based off, but still

Souryuu META also has an inconsistency where her reload is displayed as +37 in-game

for the Rigging Fortification page, could I suggest doing something like this or something for the future when more and more META ships are added and they stick to the same formula

I noticed that the costs are the same throughout all the ships and that it's only the stat bonus is the variable

[wraith tendon]

The ones displayed ingame are actually correct afaik (At least for Ark and Souryuu they definitely are)

[hidden rain]

The reason it is incorrect right now is we DID do the whole all CV is X, but yeah, the 2 after Hiryuu have slight variations in their fortification stats.

[terse field]

I guess it's to be expected that there would be variations, but it does make things annoying in trying to group them and keep things condensed

[tribal harbor]

was it this?
https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Community_noticeboard#Upcoming_changes_and_performance_issues

[jaunty mantle]

What

[jaunty mantle]

I am very sorry but this is the first time I hear about Miraheze

As the person who pays for the server the Azur Lane wiki is hosted on I am unaware of any links between me and that organisation at this moment in time

I am also unaware of HTTP error 503 being something that requires using a ‘hosting service’

Personally I was of the opinion (since around 1994) that it means the reverse proxy has failed to contact the web server

Also, I posted about the reason for the issues in the other channel where @quaint stream could see it so the above statement seems weird to me

[native arch]

ferry's hosting is separate to miraheze so miraheze going down wont affect ferry's server

but it's not important anyway

the wiki's back up now so who cares

what we should do is make a ferry shrine to show our appreciation for her

since we can't donate money

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/764189767441055745.webp?size=48&quality=lossless

we make

a fort out of akashi body pillows

and actual real rubies

and we pray to it every day for azur lane prosperity

and for the wiki to run smoothly

[jaunty mantle]

…

As long as I do not have anything to do with that thing above do what you want

[native arch]

if there was a donation button for the wiki i would've clicked it

[jaunty mantle]

a long, long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away I had a donation link available and that brought in approximately $50 over two years

and was accompanied by people accusing me of getting thousands in donations and pocketing the money

[native arch]

[harsh nexus]

youve made more than me in my 1.5 years of streaming

[jaunty mantle]

at the time, $50 was one month of server costs

[quiet raven]

So, wouldn’t it be possible and useful to link ghost guns from https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:ArdWar/DefaultEquips#141 to the respective ship pages where it matters?

Like Odin, Heinrich etc

Rn it’s on the default equipment page, and many don’t know it exists

[quiet raven]

Also, the ship list above has been updated, but this hasn't

[hidden rain]

I think we generally advise against linking to userpages.

[rugged trellis]

instead of linking to user pages, the user pages should be made into main namespace pages

[fickle tinsel]

is it possible to redo this event

[pure thunder]

if someone feel like doing it

[coral vigil]

I've been considering making it a main page.

[hidden rain]

Fixed now

[tough spade]

Formulas have been broken for mobile pages for some time now

[pure thunder]

scroll down > desktop

[native arch]

[tulip oyster]

no tenrai?

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Combat

[teal hawk]

Same armour break flag as the 831 Squadron iirc

I should check that

[pearl aurora]

English version of Swirling's Cherry Blossoms memories is broken
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Memories/Swirling_Cherry_Blossoms#English_Story

[coral vigil]

I'm not sure why. Nothing has changed in ages. I cut out a bunch of JP text and it started working but that's not a reason

[teal hawk]

Character parsing limit?

[coral vigil]

ok maybe. i cut out cn lines and en starts working

[teal hawk]

Like you said though, it was functional up till recently

[coral vigil]

scb isn't very long though? Around 16000 lines. tower is 23000

[teal hawk]

I went over it earlier and couldn't figure out why either

[coral vigil]

oh preview has this warning heh
Warning: Template include size is too large. Some templates will not be included.

[teal hawk]

Can't be because of the images in the table, could it?

Pretty sure other events include those and they work fine

[coral vigil]

ok i think i have it not a fix but a reason

[teal hawk]

Go ahead

[rugged trellis]

the correct solution would be to move styling into templatestyles

css highly inflates the template include size, especially if you have tables where every element has styling

[jaunty mantle]

It is a bad idea in general because content download size grows uncontrollably as well

And Google does not like this and lowers page rank

[rugged trellis]

tbf that template was created when we didn't have templatestyles and nobody wanted to touch global css

(and my project to go over all templates and modules has been on hold for half a year)

[unreal harness]

Dunno if my computer is messin' up but this page seems to be formatted differently than the others that I've seen.
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Eldridge

[jaunty mantle]

@unreal harness I sincerely hope it is not a case of ‘press Desktop view at the bottom of the page’

[unreal harness]

That was the case, sorry. I was clicking on a list of ships and just noticed that one of them looked different.

[jaunty mantle]

I will kill the mobile view some of these days

[unreal harness]

Website is known to do that sometimes?

[jaunty mantle]

I think it serves the wrong cached version of the page but when and why it happens I do not know

[pearl aurora]

Great, thanks

[tulip oyster]

this should get mentioned on the guild page for public guild

[tulip scaffold]

[native arch]

i was about to claim that

[tulip oyster]

oh yea i forgot to mention it yesterday but the passive increase seems like its 60/day

this is from today btw

and this was from yesterday #gameplay-help message

and its 60/day and shared across all servers it seems

#gameplay-help message

[wraith tendon]

Just the increase or do you mean the lvls are the same on all servers?
Join us and create the page yourself and help paint gph green

Also do public guildies always have to look at St. Louis?

And could you perhaps also provide a screenshot of the Logistics tab for public guild?

[tulip oyster]

increase and lvls are the same

look at the 2nd one i linked

its jp, has same levels, with 60 more than en at that time (cuz their server at that point was already 1 day ahead

and i would join wiki but blue > green

[wraith tendon]

Weirdeg

[wraith tendon]

Unless it looks just exactly the same? @tulip oyster

[tulip oyster]

give me a sec i need to login my alt

pretty sure its the same tho

yea basically the same

and also idk why its always st louis either

[wraith tendon]

Hmm and what does contributing give you exactly again? Since it most likely doesn't give you any activity or contribute towards tech?

[tulip oyster]

this is unsubstantiated but if i had to guess what happened is that the average level of guild tech is too extremely low, so on every server the primary driving factor for tech level is by the slow 60/day increase, so thats why its the same across all servers

[tulip oyster]

and it just gives guild currency for shop

[wraith tendon]

My weirdeg was an answer to your green<blue

[tulip oyster]

well i like blue
also why i never went for cc role

[wraith tendon]

But yeah that makes sense, probably too many inactive guilds w/o any levels out there

This blue is boring tho, so subdued

I'm too tired now, guess I'll try adding that somewhere to guild page tmr

[tight hatch]

There is more wikicontributors than I thought

[austere bone]

Funny thing that open guild passive seems to just only upgrade the Meowfficer cost reduction, and I've never seen it for upgrade anything else it would seem

[wraith tendon]

Nvm I'm not editing Guild page

[native arch]

[pure thunder]

[wraith tendon]

New players will be presented with a choice upon first selecting the Guild menu: Either to create their own Guild or to join an existing Guild.
Is this still true?

[pure thunder]

make new account and find out yourself

[minor iron]

Dear comrades, while leafing through the wiki, going to the "Affection" page, I found a defect in the "3.4 Post-Oath Voice Lines" subsection, namely the absence of the Hakuryuu ship. On the Hakuryuu page itself, in the "Hakuryuu / Quotes" section, it has a subsection "Default Skin (EXTRA: Post-Oath)". Is it just overlooked or does she really not have Post-Oath Voice Lines and is this already a mistake on the Hakuryuu page itself?

[wraith tendon]

She does have post oath lines, that page is just manually being updated so sometimes ships aren't added there cuz we forgot

[hidden rain]

Yeah, absolutely nobody seems to care about that particular table.

[hidden rain]

Yeah, everything else is higher on regular guilds so you don't see it. You see it on meowfficers since that upgrade is shit so nobody will pick it unless the very last upgrade (and then members probably wont buy it).

Then they would need to compensate for massive riggings eating up UI elements on some of them. Unless of course its a limited list without them.

[wraith tendon]

Thx

[tulip oyster]

making me log in to alt again

[wraith tendon]

I would've had to click through tutorial

Btw @tulip oyster do you know for sure how many funds resupplying guild supplies costs? (The thing that gvies 30 coins to all members for 14 days)

[tulip oyster]

not sure

[wraith tendon]

Find out pls, I gtg

[thin wadi]

pretty sure that's 3k per interval, at least it has been all the times I bought it for my own guild

[wraith tendon]

That's why you choose Crimson Axis

[teal hawk]

So you can eventually grow tired of seeing Leipzig over and over?

I'm with Snowy on the rotating faction representative idea. Shame it'll never happen

[wraith tendon]

Can't get tired of seeing Leipzig

[wraith tendon]

Huh wait I looked at it again...so it only increased for Cat box discount...how is decided what it increases for?

[tulip oyster]

dont know, but it probably only picks one at a time

[wraith tendon]

So you mean it'll finish cat boxes and then randomly? choose another tech to upgrade?

[tulip oyster]

i mean ^this guy said it might be always cat boxes

but i havent been able to find a ss of public guild thats old enough

[wraith tendon]

Hmm

If it rly only upgrades Cat boxes

That will take ages before it does anything else

[tulip oyster]

ye

@wraith tendon #gameplay-help message

reallly weird behavior

[wraith tendon]

Yeah that is strange

@tulip oyster Could it be that it actually gains 60 per day on all guild techs, but only displays that on Cat boxes and only refreshes other techs whenever they lvl up?

Hmm I still arrive at 43 days having passed since Dec 8th for cat boxes tho
And way less for dockspace
Oh it's 12th of August...I hate English dates

[tulip oyster]

alright so doing the math, theres been a total of 152 days from that ss to today
cat box has progressed 2640= 44 days
coin/oil storage has progressed 1740 = 29 days each
dock/warehouse has progressed 1500 = 25 days each
so thats 44+29 * 2+25 * 2 = 152 so its def 60/day

not sure about how its picking priority but

cant really fix that without more screenshots

[wraith tendon]

Idk why your numbers are slightly different from mine

[tulip oyster]

oh

im comparing to today

[wraith tendon]

Ah

Still don't get the difference on coin/oil tho

[tulip oyster]

wdym?

[wraith tendon]

For some reason I forgot a term

So I have the same result now

[tulip oyster]

when was public guild added again?

[wraith tendon]

June 10th

[tulip oyster]

i swear i wish i could exclude #friend-and-guild-id from my searches rn lmao

[wraith tendon]

Hahaha

My Browser wasn't bad either, "public" yielded 1 result, "public guild" 0...but the result "public" yielded is "Public Guild"

[tulip oyster]

i just went searching guild tech and i just blocked everybody i came across in guild id channel

[wraith tendon]

[coral vigil]

@wraith tendon hassat is saying private guilds research other stuff so average is higher than slow roll

[tulip oyster]

oh hey another screenshot #gameplay-help message @wraith tendon

[coral vigil]

but private guilds don't research cats which is why public slow roll is advancing

[wraith tendon]

Hmm I doubt that

It looks way too uniform for that

So we got
5/5/2/2/3->4
8/8/3/3/5->6
10/10/4/4/6->7

Hrmm

[tulip oyster]

hmm maybe im gonna try and graph this out

see if theres some sort of relationship

[wraith tendon]

I mean there is one, the ratio is roughly the same all the time

Just hard to say anything more than that with just 3 data points

[tulip oyster]

welll

we do have 1 more
day 1 it started at 0

[wraith tendon]

I'd be more interested in seeing a screenshot where something different from cat boxes is being upgraded

[tulip oyster]

well the other sc i showed all had some investment in the other techs

[wraith tendon]

Next data point next month
Well yeah cuz the lvls weren't perfectly divisible by 60

[tulip oyster]

ye but that means that it was previously being developed

[wraith tendon]

Eh yeah, but that's kinda obvious since otherwise it wouldn't have a level

Actually I'm not sure it started at all 0

Cuz those values in the oldest ss don't make any sense if it did

They're not divisible by 60

I believe Public Guild started out with a total of 1280 tech pts distributed

[tulip oyster]

hmm

[tulip oyster]

coin/oil = 820 = 100 starting + 12 days?
dock/warehouse = 1100 = 500 starting + 10 days?
cat boxes = 1280 = 200 starting + 18 days?
12*2+10 *2 + 18 = 62
which matches 62 days between those two days
i just used the amount of guild research pts needed for lvl 1 btw for starting

since i was searching and found someone talking about how they all started lvl 1

[wraith tendon]

This doesn't check out with my math again sigh

Since that's 1400 tech pts distributed not just 1280

[tulip oyster]

maybe youre miscounting the days?

[wraith tendon]

Yeah I counted 63

And added another one cuz I'm stupid

But I guess it's 62 cuz they didn't get any increase on the 10th itself?

[tulip oyster]

probably not yea

[wraith tendon]

But yeah that sounds plausible

Average my ass tho

[hidden rain]

It increases everything... you just see it as guildmember on catboxes since those will be the only ones logically at 0, not higher than the "public guild". Fairly sure I said the same yesterday...

[thin wadi]

I see coin at 10, warehouse at 4 and cat box at 6 on Lexington

and my guild's tech overrides Oil and Dock, and roster is not on the Public track

[thin wadi]

just confirmed with the log that.. I think just Officers have access to?

[hidden rain]

No, everyone can see the log.

Thorian is just lazy (or doesn't know about it being added)

[thin wadi]

just click on the magnifier next to the guild funds if you have it, and use the topside filters to look at the expenditures

[wraith tendon]

Huh there's a log

[wraith tendon]

Yeah but it's still unclear to me how it decides what to increase

[austere bone]

It's usually down to the leader and officers as to what the guid should focus on researching

Cats are outright useless now since they drop left and right in OpSi, along with the free daily box

I mean not really anyone would buy more than the free box anyways, unless they don't want to build, buy upgrades and what not

[thin wadi]

well yes what we are currently confused over is what the Public Guild system prioritizes

[austere bone]

Wild guess, cats since no one in their right mind would research it

[native arch]

i feel personally attacked

[austere bone]

[signal grail]

cries in suboptimalcatownerish

And tbh there's else nothing worth researching once you're done with dock expansion and have enough slots for people

[hidden rain]

All guild upgrades are fairly usefull... except for the catbox one

[signal grail]

You do you but to me cap upgrades are useless if I'm stuck way above those caps anyway, depot upgrade is useless because each ship you don't use is basically 5 free slots each.
My cats could be better though so the cat discount is far from useless to me. Plus it further reduces the need for increased gold cap.

[wraith tendon]

cat box upgrade takes ages to research each stage is pretty expensive and the reduction isn't all that much

[native arch]

it's worth it if you buy 15 cat boxes every day

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/884440853869907979.webp?size=48&quality=lossless

maybe

[signal grail]

It will pay for itself, eventually. Also there's already filters for chinese, russian and french cats. Maybe they were added by mistake or maybe new, better kinds of cats will come, who knows.

[hidden rain]

I think someone did the math once and found you had to buy more than 2000 catboxes for it to return profit. Yeah, useful.
I don't think I bought more than 5 in the 2 years that I played. All of which are accidental too XD

[harsh nexus]

its a lot easier to buy cat boxes now

[hidden rain]

2000 is still a shitton of boxes, aside from as Thorian mentioned the sheer amount of research points needed.

[harsh nexus]

im not denying that

but there should be a lot of guilds starting it now cuz coins/oils are maxed

[hidden rain]

Poor sods who actually buy them though. Saw someone in tech that actually bought the 6 PUBLIC GUILD slots. That just pains my heart, a terrible upgrade purchased 50% upscaled making it just that tidbit more horrible...

[harsh nexus]

only if the scaling on it wasnt so bad

[hidden rain]

If only it was catguild slots

[signal grail]

Knowing my luck with cats it might actually take me this many cats to get one with good starting talents lol.
Useful or not, it's still better than the other stuff except dock slots and guild slots.

[austere bone]

The cat upgrades should of been removed if you ask me

I mean it's like pulling a gatcha roll to get a gatcha box for a cat you may or may not like with its skills

[jaunty mantle]

‘should of’? semantic parsing failure, requesting clarification

my grammar corpus does not have quotations matching this expression

[austere bone]

Well does anyone really use the cat box upgrade?

[native arch]

you only need good cats if you're trying to maximize damage as much as possible anyway

🙃

dw

i've bought 15 cat boxes every day for the past 3 months

i know what it's like :)

good cats

i was still gaining coins faster than i was using them

because of 12-4

and now 14-4

[rancid tartan]

...no...

[hidden rain]

Okay random clip taken from ... where?

[native arch]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/List_of_AA_Guns

[hidden rain]

I don't even know what it's talking about there

[native arch]

delete it

[coral vigil]

wth why only delete that part. the whole thing is sus

[hidden rain]

Use high damage AA guns on high AA ships is sus?

[teal hawk]

The point above that. It's bad advice to tell anyone to equip a DD with "slow reloading guns" since the vast majority have awful AA that can't make good use of those high base damage guns anyway. Point 3 was probably written in year 1 of the game when AA equipment were far more limited and the pinnacle was just smacking quad Bofors on everyone and building for RoF

[coral vigil]

point 1 is wrong yes

[native arch]

might as well just delete everything and if we really want to, rewrite it

[teal hawk]

I'm in favour of deleting the whole thing tbh

Wiki doesn't deal in gameplay advice after all

(Do we)

[harsh nexus]

AA gun optimization is a gray area i dont want to explore

[native arch]

(no)

[teal hawk]

(Out it goes)

[native arch]

only place we have gameplay advice is on personal pages

[harsh nexus]

(Yeet it)

[native arch]

which aren't part of the wiki technically

[teal hawk]

Aye, was what I was thinking too

[native arch]

gonna write an article on how to do the pause strat in swedish and then swedish azur lane will thrive

[teal hawk]

Wait hold up, you mean the Absolute Cool down isn't 0.5 seconds?

[coral vigil]

no bullet 1

[hidden rain]

Maybe rewrite it to say high damage guns are better on high AA ships and faster low-damage are better on low AA ships to quicken the refresh?

[teal hawk]

Oh

[coral vigil]

well technically it's correct but who the heck optimizes a given set of AA guns

[teal hawk]

No Hassat we throw the whole thing out the window and let GPH deal with the gameplay questions

[harsh nexus]

that doesnt apply to all scenarios

[teal hawk]

Generalising AA equipment by hull type is a bad approach to understanding AA and how to build a fleet for it anyway

AA rework please come soon

[hidden rain]

I do kinda feel we can use a small note about how faster AA helps out, just to help the newbs better to see why we stick STAAGs on all our battleships, if they see terrible tubers sticking the +FP on all of them cause reasons.

[coral vigil]

STAAGs are on BB's because they increase DPS and don't nerf your AA reload

[teal hawk]

We stick STAAG on battleships primarily for the HIT stat and since most BBs can't meaningfully contribute to AA damage

If even we can't get our views together on AA that's all the more reason to throw it out the window

I don't remember any of the other equipment lists having things like this

[harsh nexus]

sub torp dps column shouldnt exist imo

[hidden rain]

"On ships with lower base Firepower, guns with higher Firepower stat but lower DPS may perform better than those with higher DPS but lower Firepower stat."

[coral vigil]

I'm going to rewrite subs

[teal hawk]

This is one of those "Yeah that's technically correct" statements that's just going to lead people astray :/

Watch someone put a Twin 410mm Type 3 Shell on Hood because they see her having lower FP

[coral vigil]

point 7 of bb guns only means something is every shell hits

[teal hawk]

There's a whole bunch of ifs associated with general advice for this game

[harsh nexus]

it also doesnt apply to the french bbs

[teal hawk]

Either we painstakingly explain each one, or we just... Don't focus on gameplay specific advisories

[harsh nexus]

point 9 should be moved to the massa page

[native arch]

This tbh

[hidden rain]

Someone somewhere suggested adding barrage details to shippages rather than (just) the barrage page. Anyone up for THAT one? :p

[harsh nexus]

we can probably find a way to pull from the barrage page

[teal hawk]

^ That sort of info?

[hidden rain]

Well, probably on the affected skill(s) (though what that'll do to the skills page I dunno).

[quiet raven]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Bogue/History
So, this says "She actually sunk 13 submarines"
The wiki page it's linked to states 9+2, they just forgor to include U-850 in the count, but she is in the list.
So "12" is still correct.
The 13th was supposedly U-86, but it was a mixup with U-764 which escaped (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_submarine_U-86_(1941))

Also, someone should probably edit the actual Bogue wiki page as well to make it ten german subs

[barren bobcat]

i believe the Lecture Hall image needs updating
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Living_Area

[native arch]

nah it's probably still accurate in some parallel universe

(im on it)

i uploaded a new file but it's not updating

[quiet raven]

[jaunty mantle]

has not expired yet in cloudflare cache

[native arch]

im about to expire

[jaunty mantle]

you are already expired

omae wa mou, shindeiru

[barren obsidian]

A question for those wiki people out there: any plans to update the secretary list on website at some point? Think it’s a little outdated last I checked, and idk if any of the new ships from this and previous event are quest ones or not.

[hidden rain]

Secretary list?

[wraith tendon]

They mean character stories/missions

[hidden rain]

Do we have a list of those other than the memories page? (Which is updated)

[civic grotto]

can shipgirls face expressions be added to gallery

[hidden rain]

Maybe if you ask Nobbby really nicely, since he'd be the one to extract, name and upload all...

[rugged trellis]

they can, but practially its a horrendous process...

the template does support facial expression (at least the ones that are only squares...) since its creation

but uploading them to the wiki requires us to upload 5-10k seperate files, and then we would need to look through each skin (the game currently has ~1100 including defaults) and possibly adjust them in individual cases

[hidden rain]

I figured they meant just adding the faces in the menu, not necessarily ontop the caracter screen (the amount thing still stands though).

[rugged trellis]

even that isn't easy

this is how the expression images for one of hammanns skins look like

its basically half the skin

[jaunty mantle]

I do not like the mention of 10k image files

[hidden rain]

Yeah, Hammanns expressions for that skin are great, they offer so much Hammann 🙂 (They did that for the tail iirc)

[austere bone]

Well HamHam dresses up as a cat girl so.....

[coral vigil]

@tulip oyster so in the new mission structure i assume the dailies still follow the the schedule but there is no longer an individual port cap?

[tulip oyster]

Im not sure actually

[austere bone]

Funny thing about that, is it makes the port mission section obsolete there

If you can do it on the map, then there's no point of having it at the Port at all now

[tulip oyster]

because im pretty sure i got a coordinate logger mission today (despite it being saturday) and them only showing up in nyc which only happens on weekdays
maybe i just forgot but idk

[wraith tendon]

Btw does anyone know about those 1 time missions in the events tab that gave a lot of cog arrays, exp packs etc? Was that limited time or do newbies still get it? (Is there a page for it and I'm just stupid?)

[austere bone]

Unless they decide to have it set as the fully daily list at each port too

[wraith tendon]

I'm fairly certain I also got a coordinate logger mission today

[coral vigil]

ok I'll start with what we do know. 7 accepted mission cap. 12 daily mission cap.

need to wait for monday to see if i get 5 or 6 missions

[austere bone]

And the Monthly Arbiter mission

[coral vigil]

ok i'll add that too

[thin wadi]

I got three "turn in stuff" missions yesterday, which was impossible previously, since those were NY exclusive and NY only spawned two issions at a time

[hidden rain]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Cognitive_Array_Support_Plan

[hidden rain]

There's a set amount of 5 or 6 missions each day. Guess should add that now. Also the arbiter mission works against the cap . Bloody bad design in OPS galore.

[wraith tendon]

Wtf is this unholy embed-ping combination on mobile

Thx for the info tho

[sick glacier]

has anyone discovered what Magdeburg's hidden skill is

i assume its us waiting on them to add a new mechanic

[pure thunder]

which hidden skill

[sick glacier]

she has something that triggers in Operation Siren thats just called "Future Content"

which is why i assume its something we are waiting on

or something they scrapped last second or something

[pure thunder]

i think it's the fix for her broken skill that crash opsi

[sick glacier]

why would it be labeled as a different skill tho

[pure thunder]

[sick glacier]

just as i thought it didnt appear anymore

i nicked another screenshot as almost didnt notice it

[pure thunder]

there's a lot of skill that named as "future content"(used to be CN name but renamed to that recently) that exist for a long time in game. which is just skill that don't show up as skill card(i think)

probably they forgot to make that skill don't show up as skill card idk

though i could be completely wrong. i don't really know how this game works honestly. i just upload voicelines

[left jacinth]

Didn’t the wiki have old lines for the colorados pre redesign once?

[hidden rain]

Its the modern equivelant of "written in Chinese"

[wraith tendon]

@coral vigil @tulip oyster The first and last 3 missions only appear in NYC right? So this disproves the 3 missions per port cap?

(Also I think I got the first mission today, almost feels like you get 1 mission per port every day)

[coral vigil]

Are you really wondering why they have bugs and don't fix them?

[coral vigil]

It's just their name for her OPS skill. If it bothers you file a bug report. FWIW the name in Chinese is 愈战愈勇（大世界效果不显示）

[native arch]

imagine fixing bugs in 2022

[hidden rain]

Looks like their new mission generation has bugs too, going from stuff here. And people called this an "improvement"... seems both 'upgrades' backfired 🤦‍♂️

And they really really REALLY hate debugging all their new OPS "features" for some reason so we're probably stuck with new tags on our ports and 4 NY missions a day forever. Yaaaaay.

[sick glacier]

that isnt what i was asking no, and she doesnt have an OpSi exclusive skill, and both other skill names appear perfectly fine, thats why i was curious about it

[sick glacier]

and failing to turn off the ping with the second reply was unnecessary

[coral vigil]

What do you call this?

[sick glacier]

a skill that has a opsi different functionality

and as i literally just said

if you had eyeballs

that skill appears properly

now stop bothering me you waste of air

[coral vigil]

go away troll

[native arch]

mans getting salty over azur lane skills

[sick glacier]

says the person pinging me uneccesarily

im not even trolling

they were genuine questions

you are just an ass

[wraith tendon]

[hidden rain]

Show me where the ping touched you. I really don't get why people go berserk over pings, nevertheless turn into total aholes

[pure thunder]

wtf

[quiet raven]

people who complain have no idea you can make pings quiet

[thin wadi]

There's an author I know who prefers to not get pinged, at least on his own server, since he'll get around to reading it eventually anyways

[rare iron]

Dude waited weeks for his favorite egirl to message him so you brought his hope way up with the pings

[pure thunder]

[jaunty mantle]

I want to note that this channel is called #fiki-weedback, not #warzone

please keep things civil and cute

[thin wadi]

where is fiki anyways, they promised to return my weed

[hidden rain]

Cute we can do!

[digital thunder]

anyone know how to listen to voicelines on the wiki without it opening in a separate page? I had it doing that once where it'd just play the voiceline but now its gone and it felt so much better cuz I can read the script

okay now it's back to how I just described it and now Im confuzzled

yeah it's being inconsistent, sometimes it do, sometimes it dont

[rare iron]

Refresh the page a couple times

[jaunty mantle]

that script is weird like that

[modest forge]

This should be PR1 and PR2 now
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Research_Academy#Catch-up

[pure thunder]

fuck off

[strange mist]

fixed

[raw ether]

West Virginia have repeat mention of "After the war she was a part of Operation Magic Carpet. The extensive operation to bring back the American soldiers scattered across the South Pacific Islands."

[bitter hornet]

damn its been like that for 3.5 years

fixed

[hidden rain]

Seems about right with how much we all care about history pages

[jaunty mantle]

yes how about we replace them with links to wikipedia

I am severely tired of people requesting accounts specifically to copypaste from wikipedia

we do not need history pages

[blissful grail]

Just wondering, is it intended that the wiki didnt included Siren's artist? such as Omitter's, or there smth i didnt know here

[hidden rain]

Do we have Omitter as shipgirl ingame now?

[tulip pecan]

Gneisenau and Scharnhorst "available in war archives" line has not been updated to reflect the archival of Scherzo of Iron and Blood

[balmy mauve]

fixed

[sick glacier]

doesnt the UR bomber also Armour break? should probably be added to this list

[signal grail]

It's the same as Barracuda's

[balmy mauve]

It probably should yeah

[balmy mauve]

Its not the same cause its avi damage boost only for enemies who are armor broken

which isnt the same as the normal armor break with the buff id 401 iirc

I'll see what i can do in a bit once i get time, or maybe someone else will do be before me

[teal hawk]

There, done

[teal hawk]

I can only blame myself for not updating this sooner

[balmy mauve]

rip im wrong

[jaunty mantle]

@wide sorrel I do not see anything about why you need an account in your account request data.

[wide sorrel]

Oh, I accidentally hit submit, I would just like to contribute if possible.

I tried to resubmit but it wouldn't let me

and help out if I can

[jaunty mantle]

contribute in what way if you do not mind me asking

though I guess it is fine

[wide sorrel]

Oh I just wanted, to be helpful to keep the wiki up to date / new information for any updates that may occur / If there's any help with the historical side of the ships and filling in possible trivia if thats required too since I have a good deal of interest in that.

[jaunty mantle]

as long as it is not copying history stuff from wikipedia and the like

[sage glade]

are there anymore pages that are relevant currently or does it just so happen that all the new stuff fits into this 6 page preview thing?

[hidden rain]

And then you notice all 5 lead to the same page

[balmy tapir]

Anyone know what Chen Hai's drop timer is yet?

[bitter hornet]

2 hours

[balmy tapir]

Thank you.

[balmy mauve]

pretty sure theres more relevant currently but its just the relevant 6 that display

cause my gph pin has like 8 or something iirc

the 2 rerun events (fu shun, and ying swei skin) aren't displayed

[sage glade]

👍 if that's the case, could that box be expanded or a mini scroll bar incorporated or something like that when there are more things than spaces available?

or just like an arrow

u can press

[frank stone]

Kaga has a new skin that was not added to the new skins section of the patch note & her gallery page

[balmy mauve]

we as the wiki are working on updating all the information atm

as you can probably surmise, theres a lotta stuff that needs to be updated we working on it dw

everything should be updated within a weekish, but if not come back to yell at us again

[teal hawk]

If not don't yell at us, we'll have things fixed Eventually™️

[native arch]

soon™️

[cunning narwhal]

is Bristol's artist named as "unknown" instead of nagu in the wiki because it hasn't been updated or is it officially "unknown"? https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Bristol

[balmy mauve]

we can't label ships' artists unless its public information, so unless nagu posted like concept art on twitter we can't tell

same reason a lot of loading screens don't have artist citations

also might be the former reason of hasn't been updated yet

[cunning narwhal]

ah okay, just thought they would have announced it officially somehwere

[teal hawk]

Nagu's released an uncoloured sketch of all the Sumners in the game so far put together but that's about it

Get them to take ownership like Vilor does and we'll all have an easier time

[golden yacht]

can you add info on what loot the arbiter hard drops?

[hidden rain]

But yeah, the idea is to add that to the wiki too

[grave oyster]

are there opportunities to code when being a wiki contributor

[native arch]

is this an application to the azur lane wiki tech college

but yes

[thin wadi]

Nagu also retweeted Bristols announcement and skin announcement tweets

[balmy mauve]

Thats fair, those are the only two AL related things they've retweeted in like the past month i think

[teal hawk]

So they have

[thin wadi]

"hes"?

[balmy mauve]

oh my bad they've

[teal hawk]

We don't talk about Nagu's other job

[thin wadi]

their gender is under strong suspicion of being female, but very unlikely to be confirmed officially yes

[native arch]

who's nagu

[teal hawk]

Sumner class artist

[thin wadi]

artist of about half a dozen AL botes

[native arch]

ohhhh

fuck im dumb

[thin wadi]

including the Sumners and Kazagumo

[native arch]

that's why it sounded familiar

[thin wadi]

Kirov and San Francisco too

[tight hatch]

This is Shimakaze stats on wiki, her torpedo should be 602 at lvl 120 but my Shima is 525 at lvl 120. Did I miss something or the wiki is inaccurated?

[thin wadi]

is your shimakaze fully enhanced?

this thing

oh, no, it's that she isn't MLB

Limit Breaks increase a ship's stats, and Shimakaze apparently gets 77 TRP from that, at least at 120

[native arch]

Wiki (rightfully) assumes that you've mlbed your lvl100+ ships

[tight hatch]

[thin wadi]

which isn't necessarily the case in the case of URs, but is a reasonable assumption most of the time

[native arch]

If you 120 your URs without mlbing them you're a monster

[tight hatch]

[native arch]

You even oathed her

S m h

[abstract star]

voiceline isn't up yet?

[quaint stream]

What does this mean exactly? Several people from my guild and myself have defeated the boss, under several different circumstances, and none of us have gotten above 272 points

[thin wadi]

personally I have gotten a consistent 269

[abstract star]

301 actually

for full 1 million damage

[teal hawk]

They're talking about the Bristol raid's EX stage, not the boss at the end of Guild Operations

[thin wadi]

funnily enough my guild op damage is also about 270

[wintry galleon]

Is Sheffield's page supposed to be loading in Mobile mod on desktop?

[hidden rain]

It was that way in all other raid maps so copied from them but yeah, the EX value is lower this time around for some reason. Not sure if that's 100% intentional on the devs part though.

[quaint stream]

Thanks.

[hidden rain]

Click "desktop" on the bottom of the page. It does so sometimes for unknown reason

[native arch]

oh mai gaaaawd

free nitro poggers

@sonic sorrel look look

[wraith tendon]

<@&460646206851252224> scam here

[opaque knot]

[rare iron]

<@&460646206851252224>

[random scaffold]

Can someome please hook up Hai Chi so I can update the tierlist

[grave oyster]

will the new ships' files be added in https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Special:ListFiles

[rugged trellis]

files are not added there, if a file is uploaded to the wiki, it will automatically be listed

[regal garden]

Hi, not sure if anyone reported this but I think the equipment list tables are broken
the tabs that let you page between base stats, enhanced, etc. are gone and the tables are now just all sequentially listed after each other.
browser version also attached

[teal hawk]

Try hitting Ctrl+F5 and see if that resolves your issue

[regal garden]

yup, that worked

did I have stale css or something? new fancy animation

[teal hawk]

[grave oyster]

i think the recent files arent listed there, i dont see the latest loading screens

it's in the page itself but not showing up in the list

[bitter hornet]

?

and why not just click the images on the Loading Screens page instead

[grave oyster]

its working now

[fallow cloak]

where do I find these

[thin wadi]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/w/index.php?title=Special:ListFiles&offset=2022-01-27+15%3A55%3A00%2B00

[jaunty mantle]

please avoid using the file list for anything unrelated to file management and pruning

it is not actively cached (since it is a dynamically generated list), thus noticeably increasing server load per request

[vapid crow]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Happy_Lunar_New_Year_2022

Arizona background should be purple

[wraith tendon]

wdym by equipment system

Oh I see what it's saying

"The Surcouf gun is not exclusive to Surouf, just only Surcouf can equip it" Cn rly went and wrote several sentences on that

Like who tf cares how they coded it to make only Surcouf be able to equip that gun

[hidden rain]

Yeeeeeah. No.

If we need to make an essay for each weird coding implementation you'd make a book bigger than Lord of the Rings.

[slow iris]

If you don't know how it works, it will look like a bug.

Many people do not know that Suisie model 21 is actually a bomber and not a seaplane.👀

And then if it is a bomber, then why can't other carriers use it?
Another bug?

[wraith tendon]

I mean what does it matter for if it's a bomber or a seaplane?

It's like saying "My DD can't equip Snorkel, is it a bug? Even tho Snorkel is an aux?"

[teal hawk]

Game makes it perfectly clear who can take these. Functioning as intended

[slow iris]

👍

[wraith tendon]

I mean her page does say Naut can equip CL guns

Like I just don't think that page would add any info that isn't on the wiki in some form already

[slow iris]

In the game? Where?

[bitter hornet]

Chen Hai can't equip the Suisei Model 21 because it is not a floatplane. She is a Seaplane Tender and doesn't have a flight deck to land planes.

[wraith tendon]

Not in the game, but is this channel about ingame descriptions?

[wraith tendon]

Since it's just a very long winded way of saying that equip slots have equipment fitting there and some equipment also has certain ship types it is limited to

And wiki lists all equip slots on the ship page and if an equip has limitations like that it lists them too on the equip page

[bitter hornet]

Model 21 has rigging for catapults for BBVs. You can use the Model 12A or the regular one for carriers.

Also this is not #bug-reports

[wraith tendon]

I don't think they were thinking it's bugged, I think they were playing out a monologue from the pov of someone that doesn't understand to show us why a page explaining it would be useful since it would enlighten that person

[slow iris]

I guess this is just another thing that only nerds care about.
Got it.

[hidden rain]

So... why again should we care about ingame (also, fuck, we need to alter all cl guns for Nauti, I'm out... we need a better system for these)

[hidden rain]

Anyways, according to this discussion we have 101 broken Light Cruisers ingame so, yeah, definitely a wiki issue for some reason... even if we do a fairly accurate job (until new exclusions make the need to alter 100 pages ) so not sure why we are the ones supppsedly needing to do better...

Also tell the devs to finally fix like the Bidder displayed damage disrepency and I think that one AA gun that randomly added a value at +7 and then was incorrect till +11 is still a thing too... Nothing here wrong codingwise.

[wraith tendon]

Hassat don't say nonsense, all they wanted was an extra page explaining that equip slots have specific equipment fitting there and some equipment also has certain ship types it is limited to

[hidden rain]

Not really, its easier to set DD guns to all CVL then just allow certain ships slots to use them (so you don't end up with CVLs toting 3 DD guns) than whatever the heck they would need to invent to make weird exceptions.

[warm bobcat]

I was kinda curious about this myself, but she did carry 6” guns and destroyed another US sub, USS Darter, with them.

[raven sierra]

is this broken for everyone or just me

it's akagi's l2d skin quotes

[native arch]

it's dead

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/896125424277528666.webp?size=48&quality=lossless

[raven sierra]

[jaunty mantle]

it is an issue with the Tabber extension

you can collapse the first section to work around this

[jaunty mantle]

@grave oyster can you explain what is ‘experience of being a wiki contributor’ and what ‘coding’ do you think is involved

[grave oyster]

i think the first explains itself, and the second is i dont know since im not a wiki contributor nor asked that in the first place

[jaunty mantle]

uh

I would like to have an experience of being a wiki contributor, especially when there's coding involved.

@grave oyster is this not your request then?

[grave oyster]

thats mine yeah

[jaunty mantle]

so I am curious about both parts, because a whole lot of people who wanted the ‘experience of being a wiki contributor’ apparently meant green name display on discord

[grave oyster]

well no, for me it means what it exactly means and not a green name display on discord

[jaunty mantle]

I am afraid this still does not answer my question; can you explain what do you need an account for without mentioning ‘experience’ and similar vague terms?

like, what are you planning to do with it

[grave oyster]

i want to be a wiki contributor

[jaunty mantle]

am I talking to a wall

[grave oyster]

sorry if im not understanding the question well

[jaunty mantle]

every spam bot wants to be a wiki contributor too

I know the feeling

[wraith tendon]

What Ferry wants to know is what exactly you want to contribute, something specific, not just you to repeat what you said in your request anyway^^

[jaunty mantle]

for example I want the legendary experience of biscuit, mallow, jam and a chocolate flavoured coating but that does not mean I qualify as a wagon wheels contributor

[native arch]

i didn't get that reference

[wraith tendon]

this tbh

[grave oyster]

does adding latest stuff count or does it need to be more specific

[wraith tendon]

I mean I'm not the person to decide this, but imo that's still pretty commonplace

[jaunty mantle]

fine I guess though I am still ??? about the coding part

not that we do not have enough people who add ‘latest’ stuff

I approved the request for now

I hope this is not about Ark Royal skills being wrong or something like that

[wraith tendon]

Maybe it's about Hai Tien's skills being wrong, they'd be right about that

[grave oyster]

i asked here if coding is involved and they said that it is, i dont really mind if its not involved specifically for my role

[jaunty mantle]

do you like Lua because all coding is Lua

[native arch]

and python

and very suspicious c++

[wraith tendon]

You don't have a specific role and coding is only really involved if you want it to be involved. Anyway I guess someone should give you a green name then

[jaunty mantle]

no Python or C involved with the wiki itself

[native arch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/889314040940212235.webp?size=48&quality=lossless

[grave oyster]

i dont necessarily like it since im unfamiliar with it but i could teach myself

[velvet tiger]

I feel like this extension would be better being removed if it causes problems like this.

[jaunty mantle]

@velvet tiger can you propose a solution then? what do we replace it with?

[velvet tiger]

I mean... Why was the way the tabs work changed in the first place?

[jaunty mantle]

because the old extension is officially deprecated?

and will stop working once I upgrade MW to 1.37?

[velvet tiger]

Oh. I mean I thought you could just... Wait until this issue is fixed to update.

[jaunty mantle]

I do not think it will get fixed upstream, people are looking into making it work

but there is nothing to wait for

[wraith tendon]

We'd be waiting until we all die then, it's sort of an us issue

[jaunty mantle]

yep

the new Tabber was made for the Star Citizen wiki and is not used with collapsible tables anywhere else

which makes sense

[velvet tiger]

Geez.

Well I guess we can only hope you guys can get this fixed soon, then.

[abstract star]

wiki is kind of bricked

im trying to open up post oath voiceline for anyone and the expand did work, its just the rest of stuff below can't be scrolled

yeah

[rugged trellis]

WIP, trying to figure out the best way to fix this

[coral vigil]

better workaround is to expand, change language, then change back to original language

[radiant cloud]

Does the list of torp bomber bugged?

[bitter hornet]

should be fixed

[radiant cloud]

Ty

[sick glacier]

idk if this is mentioned already but the Missiles have Backwards/different Mods to torpedoes so the wikie DPS numbers would need to be tweaked

[austere bone]

Yes, not sure if the top is vanguard or main fleet either for that too

[wraith tendon]

By top you mean in the missile description ingame? Top is vg, bottom is main fleet

[austere bone]

Yeah that's what I meant about that first screenshot

[grave oyster]

i got my wiki acc now, how do i get the wiki contributor role

[hidden rain]

You contribute

[grave oyster]

how do i contribute

[thin wadi]

you edit wiki pages to add more useful info

[wraith tendon]

That was more of a joke I think, if anything put your discord tag on your userpage and then wait for a mod to be prompted to give you green name afaik^^

[jaunty mantle]

what does ‘put your discord tag into your name’ mean

[teal hawk]

I think Thorin meant "put your discord tag on your userpage"

[wraith tendon]

Yeah, idk what happened there to my typing

[undone lily]

Could the campaign comm level requirements be added to this page?
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Experience

[grave oyster]

like this?

[wraith tendon]

I think they mean at which lvl campaign maps/chapters unlock

[grave oyster]

thats what i mean too

[wraith tendon]

Sorry, I'm blind

[grave oyster]

[iron swan]

@grave oyster role added

[native arch]

you can finish the catastrophe of a script i started writing

[ionic fable]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Loading_Screens

what happened to this page?

[bitter hornet]

nothing?

[ionic fable]

oh it actually opened the mobile version for some reason

nvm sorry

[thin wadi]

I assumed you did and was about to ask

[ionic fable]

is it a common "bug"? my user agent is clearly desktop so no clue why the mobile page opened

[pallid frost]

It's common issue for MW to confuse user agent

really common I'd say

[ionic fable]

alright, thanks. was a first for me so I overreacted a bit

[hidden rain]

Why? It renders nothing? Or did someone touched the nomobile thingie? EDIT: Seems to work just as intended...

[frank blade]

(maybe the wiki guys can figure out if the 2 missile destroyers still get affected by DD buffs and skills)

[balmy mauve]

they do

[hidden rain]

Depends on each skill, a quick glance randomly sees a bunch that only affect DD, only affect DD and DDG vanguard, and some that affect DD, DDG Vanguard and DDG Main...

For example, "Heart of the Torpedo" from Meowfficer applies it's TRP to DDG's, but doesn't apply it's crit boost to DDG's...
I assume most of these are just the devs fucking up though

[frank blade]

Sounds like a mess up tbh

[grave oyster]

can you describe more about the "categorizing stuff"

[fallen gulch]

The formatting/layout of the table on this https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/List_of_Auxiliary_Equipment page is broken

[jaunty mantle]

most mobile browsers support native lazy loading

so personally I do not think a mobile browser would really be loading 100+ images all at once

but also that page in general is a crime

[left cliff]

Loading Screens and Loading Screens/Archive at the very least

[rugged trellis]

i have honestly no fucking idea why that is happening

but it certainly has something to do with tabber

[pallid frost]

Aahh, yes. That one "List of" page that got left out

[undone lily]

Wait, was it already there or did you add it?
Either way, I'm blind, or thanks for adding it

[grave oyster]

i added it on your suggestion

[undone lily]

[grave oyster]

[civic grotto]

are the expandable skin quotes broken for only me

[wraith tendon]

No, this seems to be best workaround

@civic grotto

[civic grotto]

oh i see

[barren bobcat]

i like that you guys brought back and streamlined the retrofit art toggle. looks and feels nice

[hidden rain]

[barren bobcat]

this thing. unless it was put back a while ago and i didnt notice til now cuz it was gone for a while

[jaunty mantle]

I do not think it is a toggle

[left cliff]

that's just the new look of the Tabber, and it was never gone

we only removed skins (i.e. anything other than default and retrofit look) from the main ship page at some point to reduce load times

[hidden rain]

Yeah, got confused since that thing was never gone...

[wraith tendon]

Shhh just take the praise

[rugged trellis]

which doesn't apply anymore because we have

1. lazy-loading enabled
2. cloudflare

but porting the current data from the seperate page back would be quite a lot of work

[jaunty mantle]

lazy loading does not help with tabbers

[barren bobcat]

then im just an idiot. my bad . either way u guys are doing good work

[jaunty mantle]

it would only work partway

and server bandwidth was not the reason tbh either

it was client bandwidth

[rugged trellis]

the most reports of slow loadings times we had we're AFAIK from the SEA region, because they're very far away from the server

[jaunty mantle]

Australia, not SEA

in any case shoving all of the outfits in there would be stupid

for example imagine Ayanami

it would be unusable since the new tabber scrolls instead of wrapping

[rugged trellis]

its possible, but not with the current page layout

[jaunty mantle]

and even if it wrapped there would be like 5 lines

yes do you propose making the CG take full width of the page

because that would be really weird

current layout sucks tbh

[analog belfry]

is the opsi page supposed to be like this?

[hidden rain]

New tabber strikes again, lemme fix that real quick

[undone lily]

gais, missile mods are 130/110/80

[left cliff]

which page is that?

[hidden rain]

That's the torpedo list.

[left cliff]

yeah, found it, but fucking hell people, TELL US WHICH PAGE when reporting something wrong

[undone lily]

mb, thought it was obvious

[jaunty mantle]

yes it is obvious to you, as you have it open in front of you

[undone lily]

As I said my bad. It's just that there's not a lot of tables with the exact same format on the wiki. It's just the "List of XYZ" pages with that table so it would've been obvious even if I didn't have it open in front of me

[jaunty mantle]

isn't it sad, Sacchin

[signal grail]

I wouldn't feel bad if I were you. It's the only table with "Preload DPS" and SY-1 in it for crying out loud.

[wraith tendon]

Well just provide it even if it is obvious, not like it's any effort really

[balmy mauve]

Doesnt even have to be a link although link would be preferred

[native arch]

are you assuming wiki people actually play the game and use the wiki

[harsh nexus]

are you assuming tierlist people actually play the game and use tierlists?

[hidden rain]

Could https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/File:NeptuneSUnit.png be removed so I can move HMS NeptuneSUnit there? (The first being the used correct name and the later the unused wrong one)

[jaunty mantle]

what do you mean removed

No file by this name exists, but you can upload it.

you cannot remove what does not exist

[hidden rain]

Deleted (and accidentily posted in wrong location)

[jaunty mantle]

nevertheless I want to know what does deleting mean for something that does not exist

[jaunty mantle]

was it possible to move File: pages in MW, I forget

I think it is only allowed for administrators?

oh

1. yes administrators only, 2) there was revision history there

[hidden rain]

Don't know about others, but I always add a delete to the old filename after redirecting...

[left cliff]

I mean, I check What links here first, but yeah

[fresh storm]

Hello, I have edited the DDG symbol to be sharper and nicer for use on the wiki :

[tight hatch]

we need some thing more cooler

[buoyant condor]

please add dev30 completion voicelines to the wiki for pr/dr ships i got taken completely off guard by gasco and while it was a nice surprise it also means i 1) failed to screenshot most of it, and 2) can't relive it via the wiki, so if it's possible that would be really nice, thanks

to be clear i mean lines like these which are nowhere on the wiki afaik (if they are pls point me the direction)

[pure thunder]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Memories/Unlock_Fate_Simulation#Chapter_8-1

it's unlock fs lines
also idk why it's named as chapter 1 - 15 instead of ship names

wtf

[buoyant condor]

wait what

oh ty for the link

i thought theyd be on the ship pages my bad

[delicate cedar]

i would like suggest a slight correction for this, where on the wiki pages, the brown haired girl is stated to be Georgia on the wiki, but it actually is Baltimore, since Georgia doesn't have an ahoge, nor a braid

[native arch]

it's balter because the braid is on the other side

(fixed)

[delicate cedar]

[native arch]

im just kidding

i changed it to baltimore

[delicate cedar]

alright

[hidden rain]

HA, and you guys complain if I can't recognise ships... I touch nothing and it still ends up wrong

[wraith tendon]

[native arch]

found the culprit

[wraith tendon]

Honestly I too thought that was Georgia
For like 2 seconds

[native arch]

[native arch]

what commander level are you

[teal hawk]

Just look at the images with your heart's eye

[native arch]

what

wait

@hidden rain what level are you

[teal hawk]

We're getting kinda off-topic

[native arch]

im silently judging your ship recognition skills

based off of how much you've played the game

[hidden rain]

125... all your maids look alike

[native arch]

uninstall

right now

[hidden rain]

That wont fix your terrible taste in waifu's

[native arch]

at least i can recognize my waifus

[tight hatch]

Sometime, I just feel like AL wiki is unreliable

[native arch]

how dare you we are never wrong

apart from that time

and all the other times

[flat trench]

[abstract star]

no new voiceline is up yet?

bristol and others

[balmy mauve]

nobody wants to deal with datamining

[native arch]

I'm actually dying that's the most pathetic one I've seen yet

[hidden rain]

Wow, so rude to samheart...

[native arch]

you missed the free nitro

rip

[balmy mauve]

its true though nobody wants to datamine besides riceist but he only does barrages and skills

[harsh nexus]

should have asked zerggin for his scripts before he left

[native arch]

||i cant tell if people actually think im replying to sam or not||

[wraith tendon]

Don't scare me like that, that sounds like he left the server (which he didn't)

[mental fractal]

the code is jank as fuck though

[native arch]

this is the most precious archive we will ever lay our hands on

[tulip scaffold]

[mental fractal]

you'll need to edit it to point to the lua source directory and a folder with the bullet .pngs

[tulip scaffold]

the holy bible?!

[native arch]

god himself

[tulip scaffold]

[mental fractal]

for the wiki bot portion you'll need your own user-config.py
and of course there's no documentation

[balmy mauve]

...why not post it in the actual wiki channels

[native arch]

DO NOT

QUESTION

OUR LORD AND SAVIOUR

[austere bone]

When the wiki team need something or vent about I guess?

[hidden rain]

What do you mean, this is precious feedback is it not?
(Then again even if we shitpost, it doesn't really impact this channel much since most feedback is errors we fix quickly... or outrageous requests we ignore XD)

[clever quest]

Can i cfm your using azurlane repo in python?

Actually nvermind

Just saw it works differently

[tight hatch]

Man, I wish I can fake wiki color
So my comment would more reliable in gameplay-help

[native arch]

no

you just get bullied more

but you don't get trusted more

[tight hatch]

People keep doubting m

[tulip scaffold]

he doesn't know

[native arch]

have you even talked to samheart

he turned green

doubt it helped him at all

[wraith tendon]

Nagami helps us all getting bullied less in gph

[native arch]

i just realised gph is bad for me

[teal hawk]

What does Nagami do for us in gph

[native arch]

exist

[teal hawk]

Understandable

[wraith tendon]

Get bullied in our stead

[teal hawk]

Bless them

[wraith tendon]

[tight hatch]

I mean people still think green name should be a book of knowlegde of this game. Yall should by far done 14-4 plus 14-4 hard and there is nothing in Azurlane universal that green name dont know about, included historical related and ship's birthday

[native arch]

tbh

[teal hawk]

You're not wrong

[native arch]

actually in that case

[tight hatch]

So if yall against comman sense? Yall get bullied

[native arch]

are you done with 14-4 plus 14-4 hard

with 3 copies of bunker hill

[teal hawk]

Yes my uncle works at Yongshi so I have access to W13 and 14 HM before all of you

Lv130 too

[native arch]

only

[teal hawk]

[native arch]

although level farming is a breeze now anyway

[tight hatch]

Cuz any question in gph that green name cant answer it, neither mods can. So when we, normal players, put our believe in finding help in gph, yall green name should do something or this server is going down mother fker

Jk jk

[native arch]

well in any case

if you dont have anything to add to the wiki

no green name for you

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/889313963999907870.webp?size=48&quality=lossless

[teal hawk]

Now I'm curious, what was the question even?

[tight hatch]

What can I add something when yall already done everything

[native arch]

[tight hatch]

I still dont know is Sea Horner better or Tiger cat better? And how better they are compare to other?

[tulip scaffold]

not really

[wraith tendon]

What question?
It's just Yami being Yami

[teal hawk]

I regret asking now

[native arch]

[tight hatch]

Quiet Thorin, they dont know me

[tulip scaffold]

you think so high of us who're the same as you

[tight hatch]

Im just a normal@white name, ignore whut Thorin said

[wraith tendon]

Pls

[native arch]

i swear

[wraith tendon]

Don't lump us together with Yami

[native arch]

the only people who say "im just a normal bla bla" are trying to lowkey flex

like

the only fucking people i've seen who say that are lvl130+

[balmy mauve]

can yall like stop taking the bait

[wraith tendon]

Oh when Yami says he's in any way normal he's not tryna flex, he's tryna lie

[tulip scaffold]

I'll reveal a truth to you, half of wiki users left the game and only code and/or make things for the wiki

[native arch]

he can have deez nuts

[teal hawk]

The cat's out of the bag

[rugged trellis]

can you guys get your off-topic talk to somewhere else

thanks

[bitter hornet]

back to gph you go

[quaint wigeon]

Can you un-fuck the airspace control value table
Thanks

[haughty basalt]

images broke

[wraith tendon]

Works for me

[hidden rain]

Doughboy already fixed it a little time before, might have seen that just before that.

Having said that not sure how much the OG run page will help you with the light rerun, though most maps should still be the same probably. And the shippool.

[wraith tendon]

Pt Acc might also be the same albeit halfed

[jaunty mantle]

is it that time again where we have to guess which page it is because people really cannot be bothered to post the link

[haughty basalt]

northern overture page, sorry but I broke something and can't do prtsc and few other things

[jaunty mantle]

uhh what does prtsc have to do with it

you cannot copy the link from the browser's address bar?

[haughty basalt]

i can but why spam and be told "what's wrong with it we don't have time"

[jaunty mantle]

?

[haughty basalt]

but honestly whatever I try to be nice and straight to the point and even then i get reprimanded

[jaunty mantle]

@haughty basalt uhh imagine a situation like, you are a librarian in charge of a facility with 5000 books

someone comes in and tells you ‘page 16 has an error here’ and a photo of a spread of some book

how do you find the book?

the correct approach is normally to provide the link and a description (or illustration) of what you feel is wrong with it

posting a screenshot without any context is essentially asking people to know what each page looks like

there are 2900 pages on the wiki :\

[wraith tendon]

On this particular ss I was able to tell which page it must've been since Gangut was on it, but again, it is not like pasting the url is really any work so idk why you can't simply provide it

And who said "what's wrong with it we don't have time"?

[hidden rain]

[slim halo]

the unlockable skins section of the skins page appears to be broken

[bitter hornet]

its fixed for now

I updated Spring skins to use the ShipSkinList module instead of having 50 lines of ShipDisplay

though the module still needs a bit of work its fine for now

[hidden rain]

I mean I split it in 2 pages, but then combined them since it was working... till the new tabber broke it again :/

Your "fix" to Spring ripped them off class indicators, price, l2d indicators, backgrounds...

[bitter hornet]

yeah ShipSkinList needs work

[hidden rain]

They were listed by permanent/temp, that's gone... ordered by rarity, now alphabetic only

The hyperlinks are dead, several ships that should not be there (like acasta) are now there since we just put them in their proper spot, not renamed ALL files...

[tulip scaffold]

I planned on add everything these feature to the module

time to go back to work

[bitter hornet]

why shouldnt Acasta be there? its a spring festival skin

[hidden rain]

It's actually listed under misc.

Complains go to the devs

A lot of these probably have to do with fitting more in categories that simply did not exist yet, like the maid skins, or "Sports Festival Preparations" not being under sports. They did eventually add the pre-bunny category bunny skins to bunny though so there is hope.

I think the new tabber broke Juustagram too, I probably should check them

I mean, that kind of defeats the point of the page

[tulip scaffold]

I think leaving aside every retrofit skins (which are a lot) and oath skins, the issue can be solved for long time until they add the same amount of skins back

[thin wadi]

I think having retrofits and oaths, as consistently themed skins that are acquired in a way other than purchasing, separated out sounds okay

[rich oracle]

Is there a coordinated effort to collect the Valentine's quotes for every shipgirl this year?

[balmy mauve]

afaik no

and theres not enough wiki staff for every single ship in the game to be selected to receive their letter

[balmy mauve]

So unless we can datamine it its probably gonna be left blank

[rugged trellis]

we get the lines from the translators directly

just haven't added the old ones because lazy

[balmy mauve]

[hidden rain]

They are serverside, so yeah the translators doc it is.

[vital flame]

this is pretty minor, but the new maps thingy on the wiki doesn't work in my browser because it uses "display: revert", if i change it to "display: inherit" instead it seems to work perfectly fine, any chance to make that change on the wiki? i have it set in stylish so it's not really a problem for me though (it's set on .tabber__default .tabber__panel--active)

[hidden rain]

Which map thingy do you mean exactly? (The tabbers?)

[vital flame]

yeah, without the custom style it just looks like this (sorry for using an old browser)

[rugged trellis]

This

Is actually

The first time

Someone reports an issue with an old browser

[vital flame]

i'm special

anyway, if it's not super easy to change then just ignore me

[rugged trellis]

Out of curiosity, what browser (+version) are you using that this is the only thing that breaks

[vital flame]

firefox 52 :p

[rugged trellis]

I see, revert is supported since ff67

[rugged trellis]

the fix is easy, it will just take a while until its applied

[vital flame]

no worries

i didn't check how long it's been supported, i'm probably the only person affected :p

[wraith tendon]

(You're not, it's probably the same issue I had on my phone)

[hidden rain]

Can you check if icons are also messed up for you in Building page?

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Building#Permanent_Construction

[vital flame]

does this count as messed up?

these bad boys not supported, but that's probably not as easy to fix, and doesn't matter for me either

[thin wadi]

this is how it looks on my device

[vital flame]

hah, it works with -moz-fix-content but that doesn't really help

also since it's set individually on each element it's not easy to override with a userstyle

apparently you can just specify the width (and height) thing multiple times and it will just use the one that works

webdev sure is funny

[rugged trellis]

problem is that (afaik) the templatestyles extension doesn't allow prefix styles

[native arch]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Sovetskaya_Rossiya/Quotes

[rugged trellis]

honestly i don't even know why someone used fit-content there, it shouldn't be necessary

at least in a "there is another, better way"

(firefox apprently isn't supporting fit-content without prefix generally, but on my ff97 it works without prefix)

fun

[pallid frost]

templatestyles, or rather mediawiki's script sanitizer don't even allow display: fit-content, that's why they're hardcoded style per element

[hidden rain]

Yeah, thats the same thing I see on my Firefox, thanks.

[vital flame]

²

[hidden rain]

It was looking fine for me before you altered the icon template/module... not sure what it was meant to fix though...

[pallid frost]

It was for the gear lab materials, they're non-square and can't just rely on the box wrapping the image directly

Okay, I hope no one use anything prior to ff52

[balmy mauve]

Dude just fix it

[native arch]

i dont have the whole source organized

[jaunty mantle]

I uhh use Opera? whatever version it is? on my Nokia 9300 Symbian Series 80 phone

I think it is like Opera 4.0

[pallid frost]

Holy shit opera mobile

[jaunty mantle]

I dunno but the last firmware update was in 2003

well it does not matter because wiki does not load at all, not enough memory

[hidden rain]

Is he a dev? Seems the issue is they fucked up the ID, not the extraction

[bitter hornet]

well obviously its supposed to be Kirov

[hidden rain]

Kirov: 70204. The needed ship for "Kirov, aid me": 900217.

[balmy mauve]

I thought the issue was grammatical in that kirov was outside the parenthesis

[wraith tendon]

900217 isn't even any (playable) character

[hidden rain]

Nvm, it's NPC Kirov

[native arch]

which is why it's blank

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/742206130414944398.webp?size=48&quality=lossless

[hidden rain]

Guess it's bug-reporting time

[quiet raven]

[quiet raven]

Thanks

[tulip scaffold]

we contributors can't say a shit about that, you need to ask wiki staff

[jaunty mantle]

is there a problem

the 37.112.32.0/23 range is banned along with 37.120.215.0/24

since at least September