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i had a look at seattle now and her ASW in game doesnt match the wiki either
yeah
so youre probably right about it being a pr thing
Contribute to game wiki page, 𝘴𝘰𝘮𝘦𝘩𝘰𝘸(I actually just want green name).
how about no
this is from account requests and no
we do NOT approve accounts like that
can someone add the affection penalty for low morale in the wiki?
at least they're honest lmao
@sonic sorrel
It's already on the affection page?
it says that affection is lost when low morale, but not the specific amount
i'm asking this because someone's flexing about how fast he got his ships to 0 affinity
and i want to run some math
thats the worst flex ive ever heard
indeed
its like hes flexing how bad he is at the game
specifically it's tea
but i need the specific data
not 0 morale btw, 0 affinity. i know the rate of morale drop but not the rate of affinity drop
i've accidentally run my ships down from love to friendly before but i don't remember how many battles i did
Isn't it 1 affinity per battle with 0 morale?
where's the source for that
?
bc i can't find it
the reason it's not on the wiki is probably because no one wants to test it
do it with bache
bache is super waifu how dare you
||~~using b*che 🤮 ~~||
||have you even read her voice lines||
||yes||
||liar||
||i have and i hate her more for them||
||shes one of the few ships that comfort you when shes disappointed you ungrateful fuggers||
||yes she did, but others lines make me hate her||
||you dont deserve this||
lazy fuckers
no u
i'm waiting for flower to get up. he did test did thing with his kitakaze
imagine using wiki
wiki is for staring at la galissonniere crotch
theres multiple
because i own multiple dakis
ayayas laying on the bed
and helena's on the drying rack


what does this mean?
what link is that?
Ayanami
you're prob looking at this table
Chap 2-1 to 13-4 circle means JP/KR only whle circle at light means CN/EN collection unlock
i don't understand?
it's not available in Global?
Chap 2-1 to 13-4 only has ayanami as drop in the Japanese and Korean Client
While in the Chinese and Global client, you can get her through light build after after you get her in collection
ah, so it's impossible to get her from gacha and drop, if I didn't yet unlock her in collection
okay thanks you
Even if you unlock her in collection you still won't get her as drop
EN got Z23 drops instead (except ch14 release, but they fixed that now). Wishing well drops Ayanami without unlock needed.
Posting this here for no reason whatsoever
https://azurlane.netojuu.com/w/images/e/e3/Bg_2020.10.29_1.png

shouldnt the image be placed at the bottom rather than at the top
Thanks for getting the guy 
Should just be stretched from top to bottom
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Chapter_14 while prob not a huge deal, it is something to note. the ch 14 wiki showing the enemy spawn positions isnt 100% accurate, at least for 14-4. note the 3* dd node near the boss. the wiki shows that area as having no enemy spawns. also note the bb fleet in my sub hunting range. wiki page shows that spot as the path opening, but the screenshot shows the enemy there. i can post another screenshot of that side, but didnt want to flood the channel with 2 images if 1 would suffice. i know the code was changed and info gathering has been more difficult than usual.
Most likely server side spawns that can't be mined. Only experience can find them.
Where's Teribble ex-lines?
she doesnt have ex lines
She does, her special touch line before oath used to "I do say, Commander, how generous of you to reveal your weaknesses to me one after another", but the pict below's her post oath special touch line
Le terrible is my weakness
sometimes I just hate sublime text
have you tried microsoft word
they're up
add oil cap info on chapter9+
Its already there, has been for weeks? 
on the map pages themselves probably
I'm looking at it. we'll need to because event maps are starting to show up with cost limit
Oh, that. Yeah, its just on 13-3 that was the testpage.
oh it's implemented already? doc wasn't updated 🙂
this is going to be weird taking a 70+ oil fleet into SP3 lol
Oddly enough apparently SP1 and 2 don't have this. RIP people farming that one for their purple drop ship
huh
I think I fixed everything. New gun didn't have complete stats yet.
Why does the page not show splash range for AP CB guns anyway? Pretty sure I saw they had one
I forgot how to look that up though
Also the list doesn't feature Alge gun anymore now on max rarity and only under old name when it does appear^^
wait aren't green people supposed to make issues go away, not raise new ones?
making issues go away causes new ones
programmer moment
Fix one issue, create 3 more... that's the wiki editor way
99 little bugs in the code, 99 little bugs. Take one down, patch it around, 120 little bugs in the code 
little green men
So ugh
If you sort CA guns by Max Rarity, Algerie gun just disappears
Yeah it's been brought up. The name change probably fucked it up 
There we go, it's there now
Thanks 
it's there for me, so try refreshing again after clearing your cache?
apparently on mobile, amagi is only listed as limited only, but on desktop shes listed correctly 
desktop:
mobile:
if you play on emulator you can get her in heavy but if you play on mobile you're screwed
🙂
yeet the mobile layout
Did you... check the very top of the mobile page? Many issues with mobile layout, but I dont think this is one of them
tbf
i haven't checked mobile personally myself
that was only anecdotal evidence
but if it says it correctly in one spot but incorrectly in another then its still an issue 
Its just the notes 
Sovetskaya Belorussiya's "Additional Voice Line 1" only appears on "English server".
and she also lacks post oath lines on japanese/china server.
updated
Is there any possibility of this event's story being added onto the wiki in a not so distant future?
you could probably do that
request an account, I will approve it, and you can add the story yourself
that does sound like a good idea actually, could use that as a motivation for doing some minor fixes as well
But due to those changes to how is text accessed in the game files is the issue right now "we could access it, but there just isn't a person with time and energy to do so" (thus another person could fix that if they just follow the steps themself)
Or is it "we don't even have a method right now to access them"? (so existence of another person doesn't change that)
You can access them but turning them into wiki pages manually is a pain
And I think the guys oing this mostly haven't updated scripts to automate the whole process
yea, formatting all the text into the template format :v
my story script is only 122 lines long (if you ignore that there is an entire library behind it
)
i've created the page, but newer ships/skins will not be displayed properly since i can't update those correctly from source currently
which in this case if only Foch herself, so that is quite a good result actually
There's also a few random "commander"s but yeah, overall its 
yea, do you have any idea why does it even happen?
those are lines right next to each other and somehow one was properly rendered as narration while the other as commander
is that chapter 8?
yep
commander appears in several ones where there should just be narration, but just picked an example where they are literally right next to each other
are there any commander lines supposed to be in the story?
:/
just to show the problem:
This is the code of the line from this event:
{
dir = 1,
side = 2,
bgName = "bg_renaya",
say = "The Vichya fleet rained destruction down upon the port, taking out facilities and defensive weapons.",
typewriter = {
speed = 0.05,
speedUp = 0.01
},
painting = {
alpha = 0.3,
time = 1
}
},
This is the code of a Commander line from another event:
{
dir = 1,
side = 2,
bgName = "bg_story_bsmlevel",
say = "My eyes are still having a bit of trouble adjusting to how white it gets when it starts snowing, but other than that, the hearths are warm and the food is delicious.",
typewriter = {
speed = 0.05,
speedUp = 0.01
},
painting = {
alpha = 0.3,
time = 1
}
},
as you can clearly see
there is literally no difference except the background and text
though what made one end up as commander on the wiki, while the other is narration?
my script assumes every line without ship is Commander and uses certain tags to differentiate them into narration lines
For example here the first line from Chapter 8: it has data about "flashin" and "flashN", which i have determined are never in commander lines
{
bgm = "airRaidAlarm",
side = 2,
bgName = "bg_renaya",
say = "A blaring alarm ripped through the night sky at the Sardegnian facility, now under a surprise attack.",
dir = 1,
bgmDelay = 1,
soundeffect = "event:/battle/boom2",
flashin = { ... },
flashN = { ... },
dialogShake = { ... },
typewriter = {
speed = 0.05,
speedUp = 0.01
},
painting = {
alpha = 0.3,
time = 1
}
},
oh, yea, so that is why those "boom" lines in other places are properly narration
because they use that for dramatic explosion effects
which reasonably will never be spoken
by a person
makes sense
as far as it stands right now, there is no way to properly differentiate between commander lines and narration
i've even tried to look at the source code that is responsible for rendering that stuff during the game, but i haven't seen anything helpful
yea, I expected that, was more curious as to how wiki did recognize some, but you explained it right now, and for all other cases it would require someone just checking manually if commander is saying it or not
I don't think the commander is ever credited (aside from the choice wheel) as saying anything though?
well i haven't look at at the story ingame in over 2 years so what do i know
not cripplingly addicted to azur lane smh
there sure are several messages that are clearly spoken (or thought) by commander, but they aren't really credited, outside of "pick a completely pointless option" type of messages
how many fucking emotions did you go through hassat
oh damn man, you even got both CN and JP script as well

this makes your wiki the only one that actually has it right now, because JP wiki barely bothers
i guess i'll just remove the commander credit except for the option choosing thing
regardless of which route you pick, it will always need manual adjustments to check which are actually spoken by commander and which are not (though lines in first person are a rather dead giveaway)
Mirror Involution had a lot of commander speaking
such as for example...
if you can give me an example where that is i can look the source up for that
... which actually isn't marked as commander on the wiki right now, so yea, if game code doesn't distinguish portrait-less narration from portrait-less commander, then manual anyway :v
the example is from MI 27
i meant @native arch
for boredom there is always #al-general, #gameplay-help and #tech-support :)
and game feedback
Yeah there is no clear way the game integrates commander. It differs from event to event and story to story. Usually they hide the shipgirl, but more recently like VNs they atleast still keep them onscreen while narration happens. And a recent event even had ships ontop a background image with said girls. Which was a bit jarring, not sure if intended...
@rugged trellis After a third look; seems you forgot to update CN (still can't do that easily myself, should look into a notepad fix to not turn this stuff into ?)
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Dockyard doesn't mention that we can get cog chips from w12+
doesnt have w14
updated
do we have know how much xp w14 gives by any chance
have you even looked at the wiki
ik nez mentioned it a while ago. But could the combat page be updated to show this?
The game doesn't tell us, might as well include it in the wiki somewhere
do we have a shiplist by VA?
nice thanks
@hidden rain i was referring to the part about the highest fleet counting. The wiki doesn't mention that
This is U-96 at Lv. 125 at 100 affinity.
wtf I missed a ship?
well to be fair there were over 500 ships to update
should be fixed now
bump
hi there, Is it possible to add drop rate for each ship?
no
and it will probably stay that way :/
Is scharnhorst really available in non-boss nodes in b3 div chessboard? Spent 50keys(50key9battleefficiency plan = 900 battles), met 6 z1s but no scharnhorst. Does each elite ship have same drop rate?
I do not know how low the chance is. but I have personally received scharnhorst from B3. but it took almost a month.
thanks for let me know~ though actually month is not a good measure, like how many keys spent per day/use double plan or not
4 keys a day with double plan. so around 200
Going by z2, isuzu and dewey, yes, odds vary greatly.
so looks like its drop rate is significantly lower than z1
During fjord I had 13 Z1 before Z2 dropped after 220 or so runs.
Worst mini event ever. Everything was a recon node also so only torp parts drop.
rng is rng 
Only behind my pc now. Added though it might be worded better, couldn't think of a better way to describe it though
Please fix this, Ä is the 2nd last letter in the Swedish/German alphabet. In other words Ägir should be on the bottom of this list and any other list where they are sorted in an alphabetical order
What about the English alphabet though? (Which wikia uses by default, its not like we list these manually)
what does wikia have to do with us though
@hidden rain can you elaborate?
I am unsure what wikia has to do with our MW instance
the wiki uses collation C.UTF-8 and I am not interested in changing it; the absolute majoriry of English-speaking people will look for Ä at the beginning rather than the end
and according to wikipedia, there is no consensus on how to categorise and count letters with umlaut and the eszett
considering that official German orthography rules permit the spelling of umlaut'd letters as diphtongues with an e where diacritical marks are unavailable
I really doubt we need to implement this change
(Aegir, Mueller, etc.)
I know that it's not that big of a deal for 90% of the community. But I'm pretty sure that most swedes and germans who play the game gets offended by this minor error. I'm swedish and this minor error pisses me off
I see.
@odd abyss I apologise that the English language wiki does not specifically cater to Swedes
It's fine
it is a major oversight on our part probably
and it would be great if English speaking people came here complaining that they cannot find Aegir at the top of the list because it looks like it starts with an A
Maybe you could ad an asterisk
another thing I noticed was that Ägir is placed after Friedrich on the Ironblood page but she's in front of Azuma on the ship-type list
I thought that faction pages use ship ID based sorting
it was, but around last november the faction pages were sorted in alphabetical order.
I really cannot tell, to me it looks like all faction pages use ID sorting
on the other hand I may be bad at alphabet
in any case, it is impossible to switch automatic sorting order without switching the wiki to Swedish collation, and that will very likely require to switch its interface language to Swedish
with the default German collation, A umlaut comes after A, not at the end
So I saw that the Foch event is all filled out already, I'm guessing you guys managed to get a way to get into the game's files to fill out the info again?
Because I do wanna bring out the fact that the page for Shimmering Blue is still very much incomplete. There's no Memories page, either.
For example this is the sakura empire page...
that is not alphabetically sorted
also, according to my research just now and considering we are dealing with names, it can be argued that German phonebook sorting is the more correct choice here
which is "a umlaut is ae" and so on
It is, but it's split into rairities
Uh I'm German and that sorting is totally fine, I'd be more confused if Ägir was at the end
But usually Ä isn't treated as Ae in sorting, it's just treated the same as A
(Which the wiki does as well)
@wraith tendon am talking about phonebook sort order where "Mueller" should be next to the one spelt with u umlaut
(ain't got no diacritics in my IME)
ok, then Germans and Swedes treat Ä differently. one question tho, do you treat o and ö the same way to?
du you mean Müller?
anyway if Aegir really is a Swedish ship and it is crucial to place that after Z, I could look into overrides but I wouldn't hold my breath
yes
If Ägir would be a nordic ship, she would be Norwegian because Norway was occupied by Germany in ww2. I guess that's also why the KMS decided to name Odin Odin after the god of wisdom and war Oden
Occupation of Norway has nothing to do with their names, especially since Wargaming took names for premium Aegir and Odin from older coastal defence ships of the Imperial German Navy
and they just named them like that because... cool names I guess, Germanic and Nordic cultures are very closely related
Idk about phonebook sort, but my dictionary has "Müll" directly next to "Mull"
Hmm yeah seems names are sorted the way you said while everything else is just ignore the combining diaresis
Yeah, to me it seems like in German they are usually treated as modified letters
But Swedish treats them as completely separate letters apparently
Meanwhile Russian has a letter that looks like it has a diacritical mark
But it is a separate one
And while it can be substituted in print, it has a very strict order
ё
The [jo]
Basically same as Japanese よ
Åäö is at the end of the alphabet for us
W12 hm hasn't been added to the campaign page yet?
Wdym it hasn't been added ingame either :^)
I wanna say you're wrong, but it still gives me the "hard mode for this map is not available yet" every time I toggle hm in w12

@native arch fellow swede!?
According to what I read u guys treat ü the same as y which is the weirdest thing ever if u ask me
Känns som att typ tre pers i hela Sverige spelar det här spelet ngl
it's on the list to backfill USB
Backfill? 
to go back and fill it
Ahh, I see.
the pedestals are a little tricky. i have to watch youtube videos to see where they are
Jag vet, @quaint wagon är också svensk btw

modcheck
Jag kör Avrora och @quaint wagon kör Amagi
ayy avrora gamer
I want to note that this is an English speaking community
- speaking in a language that others present do not understand is impolite and outright rude
- you are likely unaware of this but Discord has a feature called direct messages
discord has what
Sorry, I couldn't help myself
Enough days have passed for anyone to reach level 14 on their Comf-Fort. The 2nd "Play grants more EXP" perk doubles the number of Cat Quick Finishers acquired and each cat can drop up to 2 Decor Tokens
I still got 13? Hmmm... did I miss a day?
Bröh, My Comfort is lv 13 asswell
Thanks removing the meowfficer daily I guess. Makes them really forgettable.
if you have cats in the comf-fort there's an exclamation in the thing daily
that's like the reason why i rmember to do meowfficers
I got ! On cats 24/7 from the catboxes I cannot be bothered to open all o_o
You always have an ! even if you don't have any cat boxes, it only goes away as long as 10 training slots are active 
On Chikuma's page it still says her skill is bugged after it was fixed
Thanks, removed
There is a small error on the 13-4 rewards, it says it awards 1 Wisdom cube upon completion when it provides 2.
fixed, although i should probably update all other story maps sometime too...
W12 Hard?
i would have to add it with the old map formatting (that i still very much prefer)
ahhh fair enough at least it is a known issue :)
in https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Research_Academy#Researching_a_project, shouldn't this be "There are currently four series (or seasons) of research."
Edited
Helena META's ASW at 125 is missing
Nah she just doesn't have asw at 125
Hello, is it normal that all the voice lines for Queen Valiant (yes the Queen Valiant outfit) are mixed up ?
@native arch 
I have them in this way
▫️ Wiki's desc. -- Actual Voice Line
🔹Acquisition -- Return From Mission
🔹Login -- Secretary (Idle) 1
🔹Details -- I dont even think it matches any of the transcriptions.
🔹Secretary (Idle) 1 -- Secretary (Idle) 2
🔹Secretary (Idle) 2 -- Secretary (Idle) 3
🔹Secretary (Idle) 3 -- Secretary (Touch)
🔹Secretary (Touch) -- Secretary (Special Touch)
🔹Secretary (Special Touch) -- Details
🔹Return From Mission -- Login
for her Queen Valiant I outfit ?
Yeah looks normal
the names of the files do match (like Valiant_IntroSkin2JP.ogg for the Aquisition) but what she says in it does not match the transcript
Ah the actual sounds^^

i don't think i even have a copy of the game files on my pc right now
(you can even filter the download by folder with the newest version that is not on github)
either my scripts are broken or the files are wrong in the game
because this
is this
uhh, wait ... the files might be wrong in game ?!?
nah they are right in game
doughboy master delegater
teach me how to dougie
first you search all the skin_ship_template sublist whatever idk files for the ship id
then there should be files in the cue folder called [ship id].b
you download vgmtoolbox and drag those b files into the field
and it'll spit out one folder for each b file with hca files i think
then you use foobar with the hca plugin (or anything else) to convert those files into ogg
at least that's what i've been doing
although there's probably some magical script that just does everything automatically
oh yeah and then you use a script to rename all the files to the wiki format and finally upload
this should work at least
mhhh yeah i've seen that horrible script before
what do you mean, it's perfect



comments are supposed to give you relevant info. I'd say this one does a great job of telling you to close the file and delete it.
you often have a license/copyright reference at the start of a file though
maille EX voicelines are missing from the wiki 
when i get back home i can copy them down here if it'd help
when they add EX lines without putting them in patch notes
Exalted Vibrance skin for georgia has unfinished voice lines on wiki
added
Wasn't it added with her release?
idk wasnt in the patch notes
Guys in wiki say that 14-4 give 50 gem on 3*, but its 100 and dind say anything about the 25 arrays as well
chapter 14 still has some copy paste errors
i didn't update it yet because i noticed that my script only output "1x congnitive datapack" but not whats inside
Yeah you need to manually look their included stuff up in items (what I had to do for "beginner missions")
i cant tell if hood had another skin but why not working
Oh i see it Hermione
Nah, looks like Hood to me. Trust me, I'm never wrong about these things.
D=
Fixed though
ty
Exalted vibrance lines for Georgia are still incomplete on wiki 
wdym incomplete
he probably means there's no voice. i think
the voice are up now. if that what you mean
ah that
fixed
a tragedy in two parts

Remind me in 8 hours from now, though this looks like bs to me, it should not ever call convert
its a webp file
i'll probably just convert it to jpeg since webp doesn't really make sense to use on mediawiki yet
Huh
I need to add the converter for it to the configuration then, it seems to default to ImageMagick
But it will definitely produce PNGs
yeah we noticed it back then, but just kept the files
MW does not not properly support WebP at the moment
so old
can we update https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Akashi/Questline? the Pawprint Locations image are old D=
do you guys need help with the voice audio? The new audio doesn't seem to be uploaded yet, and I do have the files, they just have their original filenames still.
is it just me or the wiki is so slow now ?
is it just me or are many of the additional voicelines missing from the quotes pages
Is it just me or is that Hassat a handsome fellow? (But wiki works fine here)

‘slow’ is subjective
hmm 133 ms for the main page does seem like a bit much, that is like 10 frames out of 60 per second
is going to blame PHP
The event usn't over yet so no winners so far???
was a block not done yet?

the voting was seperated by blocks yes?
Was there not a single finalized result for a block?
Event enddate is December 23rd
well damn
Hm, I might have one of the blocks screenshotted. I'll take a look.
damn, I sorta have it, but it's unreadable
Hmm, I think this might be the artist for current collab's Namiko and Akane, as well as Idolmaster's Haruka (and Fortune's outfit, but you don't mark that anyway) - https://safebooru.donmai.us/artists/131097 (linking booru as it conveniently has links to multiple of their accounts)
The posted official artworks of all four on their mikuashi and bcy accounts, as well as retwetted (reweibed?) AL's posts about them on their weibo
Neither CN wiki nor booru though have that information added yet, so not sure if I am missing something?
question, how do you actually turn the asset files into something useful?
they explained here #wiki-feedback message
thanks

now that i think about it
i havent seen one of those in a while
gonna add that one to my collection
@lavish wraith hey have you seen this epic deal

are you free? i need help with your script
no im a paid dlc
😔
wassup
i'm gonna dm you

anyone has image of shimakaze but without these spirits
Wiki doesn't have "without BG" option
proof that I am not making this up
this?
They were both uploaded, just not used... added to page
it already 8hours+, still need reminder?||sorry i forgot||
no one reminded me and also see nobby's response
plus I do not see a link to the page in question here
not going to deal with it without a clear link

The webp already got replaced by a jpg though 
so uh any plans to fill these sections on the "events" wiki page
or is it just my comp not loading anything
Plans, yes. Currently there, no. Probably going to just link to the existing pages though, but a quick recap of the ships/skins that passed through like the events.
i mainly want meta season start dates 
mate season
24/7 365
is there a new link for the link you provided? the url isn't found anymore
thanks 

😔
i have reached the epitome of procrastination
stop procrastinating and upload the voicelines
im "studying BSTs"
wtf is BST
binary search tree
BTS
im doing data structures and algorithms


congratulations, you have forced my hand to do a twitter shitpost that was actually years in the making, I was just not feeling like putting in enough effort before today

does the wiki mention the collab skins have unique BGM?
if so can someone link where it says that? Apparently DOA and SSSS skins have unique BGM for the main menu
was wondering if any other skins do the same
Should be all collab skins... but no, we don't mention it.
I don't know if the music tagging in UI is new but I can look at updating gallery to include music
Pretty sure I noticed it at doa already
This screenshot in St. Louis gallery page, it needed some correction (i think).
I'm not sure if that title is meant to be an alternative title for Blue & White pottery?
Fixed. Seems Splendor of Spring was a translation of the CN name of her skin
Oh ok thx..
why cant I see the Floating Funland gear skins ?
oh yeah as well as the wild west skins
SSSS Gridman ships missing from post oath lines page. Sorry if it's kinda rude to ask such little detail 
the operation siren page should note for missions that NYC always spawns missions on weekdays but not on weekends
and also that NYC is the only port which can spawn these missions
is that the pattern? I had started recording ports to see if it is the same every month. I guess not if you are saying it is dependent on the day of the month.
isn't this 150 crystals as a reward 
It's 100.
it's 100
@hidden rain Check it out. https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Yume_Minami/Gallery#A_Dream_Upon_an_Open_Windowsill

tyvm
apparently the DoA ships also have background music but I don't remember it at all
yeah I just put infrastructure in. Someone still needs to do data entry
ok i did kasumi. I don't know what doa_huanzhuang refers to though. story, map, home, boss, battle, etc
It's some light elevator music not the reggae home screen
Well there were 2 main menu tracks... or was that idolmaster?
Edit; nope... it was DoA
I don't think their code can handle 2 home screen musics
Yes, but has that ever stopped them?
Any objections to making it only appear when music is present... having said that might do the same with L2D I suppose?
what
Why does nobody ever understand me 
You know how in maps it doesn't show stuff that isn't needed, like recon on event maps, or hard mode requirements on normal maps? Like that, but for this infobox
this is kinda minor, but formi's albacore plane has the event currency cost in its description, but other event planes like the vt-18 from microlayer don't have it
consistency plz?
oh littorio's 381 from that same event also has cost
umm, Grenville's Wiki page is of a different layout for me
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Grenville
No, but why does it do that for that page only ? while all other pages look norrmal (I'm on desktop ofc)
... ok
it happens to other people on other pages
so far it's never happened to me before
no one really knows
(i'm only being slightly sarcastic, we genuinely don't know why this happens i don't think)
is there a "mysteries of the AL wiki" page on the wiki ? if not maybe you should do it to add the weird things that happen over time


is this still correct? i read that over haft a year ago.
apparently so but not many people have actually tested it out properly so 
according to basically nothing i can attest to the bug still being there
is it time for me to dorm another ship to 120?
I don't think 70 is long enough for 1 aff, iirc you need to click like 10 hearts
Yes, its still broken... cant report it anymore either since "alrwady on Trello"... AIN'T IT GREAT?
70 with no food is plenty of time 
Hey you guys haven’t updated the historical load outs for the new ships Agir, AvP, hakuryu, New Orleans, etc
When is I that going to happen
Whenever that one single editor who cared for that adds it... if they are still around.
I know what they meant but it still cracked me up to consider historical loadouts of the first 3 ships in that list
Well can someone please just try to find the load out and input it into the wiki article seriously please
If you're truly desperate, you can find the historical equivalencies with some time and Google-fu
We have that info on wiki for any ship? 
It's on one person's userpage. Can't remember whose though 
I assume the aforementioned Yuka's
Well if they are the banned one its probably not gonna happen
i dont think the wiki gives a shit about stuff that isnt in the actual mobile game
so if you want that info you can go ask the guy who made the pages a long ass time ago
Complete schedule. Also all the Exchange objectives are NYC only not just the 3 you screenshotted?
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Operation_Siren#Missions
Operation Siren is a mid- to endgame gamemode introduced to the game on December 22th, 2020. The primary benefits of playing Operation Siren are the randomised maps that can be grinded without costing oil, granting the best gear in the game and offering the opportunity to do powerful Raid Bosses for META ships. Commanders need to be at least com...
yea those ones are NYC only as well, forgot to include them since i wasnt used to how they look on the wiki lmao
but yea thanks 

bruh
i mean my smol lusty report got archived cuz devs couldnt figure it out
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Just record and send an uncut 100h footage of a ship getting like 20 hearts and not getting a single affinity point, ez. 
can't even do debugging for them cause that stuff is server side
just join manjuu as an employee 
i would also like to know where the values for the affinity gain for use in battle come from
because internally the affinity value is an integer, where 50 affinity equals 5000 internally, so an increase of 0.625 would be 6.25 internally, which is, in fact, not an integer
Wouldn't it be 62.5? Hmm, nvm the original increase is just actually 0.0625
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/List_of_Light_Cruiser_Guns#Max_Enhanced
For the guns would it be possible to add a column next to the spread that specifies whether it's "random aim" or "cone pattern"?
Hello who do i talk to about gramatical errors? And if needed im willing to fix them myself
forgive my candour, but I do not think we accept corrections from people who do not capitalise ‘I’, do not use the apostrophe in ‘I'm’, and spell ‘grammar’ as ‘gramar’
And you didn't start with an uppercase letter and didn't finish the sentence with a dot. We're in an iirc styled message board so what's the problem?
the problem is approach; IRC etiquette regarding capitalisation of sentences / full stop usage is one thing, inability to spell correctly is another.
if you want to correct spelling or grammar errors, wouldn't you want your pitch to show that you are able to spell correctly?
🍿 
no idea about etiquette, i just wanted to help with weird spelling in the siren pages
but if im not academic enough for you i could just point the mistakes and have an intelectual correct them
and in all fairness i didnt remember if grammar in english has 1 or 2 m so thats a fair one

this information is incorrect, the highest value now is the level 130 Arbiter Hard, with 156 across the board, now necessitating a 203/203/156 spread
Give us, like, time to update this stuff? 


A new gun without proper coefficient set
Going to be easier to track if knowing which page, so which type of gun
@balmy mauve ^
its on bb guns
the "max enhanced" worked fine
but everything else displayed an error
i tried CL guns and that worked fine for all of them though iirc 
Pretty sure it does use the "improved" modifiers
Just that there's no entry in the table for those so it just says HE as placeholder
why does it say the when i hover over twin 406 SK/C 34?
That's the name of the gun and mount 
Could you be more explicit?
Cuz the page looks perfectly normal to me
Except for the 3rd skill that is still weirdly messed up and I can't figure out why, but it's only formatting
like, where i can got the ship
there is no
Near the top it says "Construction | 01:25:00 – Light"
@winter light
And that is the only way to get her
this block seems to be missing in the mobile layout
Mobile format and desktop format are different, big surprise
All the info in there should be on mobile format too
well, yeah, but if someone is looking for that block, as Zhonya was, it not being there is surprising
Sure, but that block would be incredibly weird on mobile
And there's quite some stuff that only rly works on desktop anyway cuz mobile isn't rly fully supported
just use desktop mode
yeah it's kind of confusing having a completely different desktop/mobile layout
but its the best we currently have, the alternative for now would be having a shitty layout for mobile
Me using desktop view on my phone since leagues better: "Oh really?"
I suggest just trashing it
I'm not maintaining it anymore and it's becoming increasingly outdated
this all stems from the fact that mediawiki is really not made for this amount of tables
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Pamiat_Merkuria
does she not have the " ' " because of a technical issue or was it just forgotten?
(her name is Pamiat' Merkuria in-game)
could the Siren page (which has an "under construction" tag at the top) include the sirens' armor types, if that is dataminable
wat


🐌
its fixed now @buoyant condor @analog belfry
Dont know if its just me but the Sakura Empire Ships page looks different than the other nations
Ok ty weird that was the only page that was on mobile
Can the guild boss armour types for each type of operation be added to the guild page? https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Guild
Since the guild events page is just a long list of each of the pre requisite stages https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Guild_Events
Also can this page be updated or just removed from the front page? https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Storyline_(Operation_Siren)
Since there is nothing in the page rn and it's been like that for some time
So I'm in the middle of Akashi's missions and I was using the wiki as reference on what to expect next here: https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Akashi/Questline
But my current mission isn't listed:
This came after some if not all the raid tasks.
"Known issues:
The mission still refers to Fierce Assault as Urgent Ops"
At the very top
Um, is there a reason why Z23 isn't in the All Ship Drops by Map tab of the List of Ship Drops page from world 2 onward. Is there a display error on this page, or was she accidentally removed, or was she just never on?
Link?
Seems it ommitted all noted drops, no boss-only shipdrops either, hmmm...
interesting
Okay I now know the why (ships having just the note, not a seperate drop)... but it's in modules and I have no idea what to do there to fix it...
Hopefully someone who does understand these things comes along and fixes it.
(Module:ShipDrop , line: 94 local x = k:match'M(%d+%_%d+)note')
probably has to do with the Z23/Ayanami thing
fix it plox https://puu.sh/IwS8o/f7617d418b.png
14-3 rewards are 50 gems, t5 box, 25 arrays and 450 chips
Yea Hipper's head thing isnt like that
Once said that its probably the head of the army and the head of the airforce since Bisko is the head of the navy
But rn they're both unknown characters
I mean, you can swap headgear rather easily. And resembles Hipper more than that recent Hiryuu/Souryuu screen resembled their ingame model... 
Left one is Tirpitz without her hat. Right one is Eugen (check the horns)
Actually nvm, that IS Hipper. Both her and Eugen got the same horns. But the one on that pic has the less revealing outfit (Eugen got a more revealing one)
tirpitz and hipper dont have red eyes though
I can assure you that the character on the left isn't Tirpitz. Whoever they are, they've got glasses, significantly longer hair and a completely different outfit from Tirpitz
They don't know who those two in the background are, but they say the right might as well be Blücher
And the character on the right is similarly unidentified
Like I said it might be Blücher
We don't run on maybes

Simple answer is that we don't know who these characters are as of yet
check Tirpitz's hair in her Iron Blood Snowstorm skin
its the same as the one on that pic
Well she's the only Hipper Class not yet available
check tirpitz eyes
I can't believe we need to have this conversation
, and what DoughBoy is trying to get across
I can since the Bismarck event just got archived
it could jsut be the artist' own interpretation. little changes and alterations happen in artworks all the time 
the red eyes i mean
nah
No 
Do we need to remove Souryuu from here since she obviously has yellow eyes while Souryuu has blue?
https://azurlane.netojuu.com/w/images/f/f3/Bg_2021.09.09_1.png
The eyes in the Bismarck image don't even seem red to me in the first place.
And the figure on the left definitely has yellow eyes

Jokes aside, the pixiv post from the artist lacks any identifying tags or official announcements about who those characters are. We can't go jumping the gun on maybes about who we're seeing in the images
I wanna know who those two are just as much as anyone else. But again, the reality is that we just don't know at this point in time
If I have to say or imply "at this point in time" one more time I'm going to have a conniption
In before that's Hipper's yet unrevealed skin
shes wearing yellow/green shaded glasses
The upcoming skin's a kimono reveal, so you can set that aside
Although #al-lore does lean on the idea of that blonde on the right might end up being Blücher
people speculate those are Admiral Scheer and Blücher
And I understand why, but until we get confirmation beyond any reasonable doubt we aren't going to label her as such
A Hipper probably, THE Hipper no
Are there even Hipper's left?
Yes
Blücher
^
oh oops
Would be cool to have her in cruiser form like Kaga and Kaga BB tho

How do I reconcile having Kaga and her past self be simultaneously sortie-able
Makes no sense
Just like you do having 3 Akagi's
Muses bridge the line too but I've deluded myself into acceptance
Akagi-chan
Akashi's gun mumbo jumbo. Separate entities, works for me
Lena
Helena
Helena META
All at the same time too
All the chan's are the same ship but younger though (which is why I think marrying the chan should give you an oath to the older as well)
yes i agree with this


uh, i heard New Orleans drops on w14 but... are there's no drops of her in w14? or are there's no w14?
the left one looks taller than I'd expect the sister of Spee and Desuland to be
More accurately, we've never updated the mobile layout for W14
Okay, thought about updating, but I have no idea what that block of stuff is at 13-4 for the mobile version... can I dump that?
Guess it was useless. W14 added, for some reason it note doesn't appear... but I'm not even going to try anymore right now, this is good enough.
Lemme know if anything is screwed up I missed.
Sorry you had to go through that
any chances on these pages getting update upon ~coins gain from a clear?
or those are too vague
Just wondering, why don't we put the list of ship by VA/Illustrator here? I can also only access the list of ships by Illustrator by clicking on any ship's Illustrator. For the VA, it will lead to the VA's wiki page. If I want to access the list of ship by VA, I have to search it on google/in the wiki.
oh, my fault. Looks like I overlooked it~
better get ready to change that to the proper class of H class with her sister coming in

FdG is Wargamings combined H39+41 FdG-class, which is not the same as the laid-down, but unfinished H39
well
sort of
FDG in Azur Lane, is the H-39 variant due to her bringing with her the 406mm guns
and for WoWs, its not a combined 39+41, its either or, fully stock she is the H-39, and then once you get all 4 upgrades(new gun, new hull, new engine, new firing radar) then she becomes the H-41
oh look, Azur Lanes official card
stating she is H-39
and even regardless of that fact, they are both H class, having them be grouped would be beneficial
Well we'll just see how the game code / devs decides to group them and follow that probably

We all know about their origins and source material (Bundesarchiv, WoWs) but the devs get the last say 
idk why that reminded me of this but it did, yall dont have Gneisenau Meta's Ghost gun in the ghost gun section yet


Special Secondary guns
for example Odin, Ägir, ect.
Gneisenau META's should have 110 range if i remember correctly, putting them at the same range as Odin's(odins are 90 but she sits forward by 20 units)
new technology
Something something gotta rebuild cargo again, something
Or we wait what class the devs will call it (oh jeez, there was a ton more talk after. This is about FdG class).
As for no oxygen someone needs to fix the module, but that wont be me. I don't understand that shit.
map drops are server side and its too much work to try to record them and get accurate numbers
figured that was the case,just thought that the minimum was known
is there a page on the monthly arbiter fight? I couldn't find it unless im just blind
Nope
suggestion to add to 'experience' page: commander exp in opsi differs from in campaign.
6 ships = 48 instead of 49, also unaffected by S rank
9 ships = 69 instead of 72, also unaffected by S rank
On the https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Living_Area#Academy - Tactical Class page, maybe we could add something like this?
Currently, the fastest way to level a skill to level 10 is to use:
Six T4-skill books of the appropriate skill-color, one T2-skill book of the appropriate skill-color and one T1-skill book of any color. This will require 78 hours.
An only slightly slower alternative, requiring less involvement is:
Six T4-skill books of the appropriate skill-color and one T3-skill book of any skill color. This will require 80 hours.
Without T4-skill books, the fastest alternative is:
Fifteen T3-skill books of the appropriate skill-color, one T2-skill book of the appropriate skill-color and one T1-skill book of any skill-color. This will require 126 hours.
i dont think this strategy is advisable
firstly, you cant craft t4 skill books and people arent exactly stockpiling those (the number of people who arent levelling skills and simply saving is a niche minority) so any advice based on using multiple of them to speed level a ship is itself broadly inapplicable
secondly, there are going to be a good number of people using t3 blue books because theyve run out of red or yellow, so that further limits how generally useful such a section would be
if your goal is to add a factoid stating the absolute fastest you could level a ship's skill to sl10, it'd still be incorrect since that would be 74 hours using 7 t4 of the right colour and cancelling at the 2 hour mark on the last book
maybe the other members of the wiki team will disagree but i dont think it'd be helpful adding this sorry
There already is a listing of the time needed to level a skill to 10 using T4 though??? 
Oh wait, that's only on the https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Skills page. Hmm, time to see how to reduce the dupe info between the 2 sections
Done
Fair points all across! Thanks for seriously considering my suggestion at least 
@split juniper you have one chance to have your account confirmed and that chance is to tell me which username you would like that is not what you have specified in your request
SomiRush


acceptable
I assume the specified name is the one they have on here?
Merchant and Canteen both do not have Fill Time calculated for their 11 and 12
yup
Just want to report that Boise is missing her Halloween skin image
hi im just curious why fdg and ulrich von hutten is their own class since if i remember correctly they are both ships from h-class battleship proposals
that's because UvH is one of the H-39 that was laid down, while FdG is a H-41 with the cannons of -39
Also nothing we got anything to do with since we just put in what the game devs decided as class for them
does Shimakaze's Flood damage really scale with her nonexistent AVI?
Combat is a core gameplay element of Azur Lane that's required for completing a large number of objectives in the game. In combat, a fleet of the player's choosing is placed in an instanced, side-scrolling shooter and must eliminate all spawned ships (including kamikaze ships, but not planes or Submarines) in order to proceed. Loss of the player...
This is how devs code fixed dmg
ah
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Adalberts wiki page erroneously suggests she can equip CB guns under the efficiencies section. The only "CB" gun she can equip is the Deutschland gun.
In line with Heinrich, Deutschland and the like... it's intentional.
Hmmm, someone deleted them... but they should have been on those pages too 
i saw that some event aren't in the wiki, is it possible to put them in the event list please?
Don't know if intentional cause of the bug mentioned but these 2 audio files on Enterprise are swapped
Well the notes say "audio is incorrect"... do you mean the audio IS correct ingame now?
Nah the in-game one with Amagi wouldn't play anything
Was just wondering is it because the notes said it's a bug that lead to the swap
U-1206 isn't showing Hunting Range 
i have the image from in game if it's needed 

i would add it but theres numbers on the hunting range thingy on the wiki and i dont know what they mean
It means the range based on the level of the range stat... you know, what cats and such boost (and that useless core shop item).
also it's hillarious that the range is a fucking toilet 
It's also why Gral is a useless cat since he's the one sub cat that doesn't grant range... 100% worthless.
pair him with U-522 ;)
Still inferior to Steel and Edelweiss.
can you confirm? I don't know if i got the axis right on each step.
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/U-1206
Yep, looks right, thanks 
Yes the subtle way of showing how her carrier ended
Hmm why is the wiki description not the same as in game
I think it should be ship not gun but we'll see
wiki tries to be as close/accurate to what the skill actually does ingame rather than simply copying the ingame text
Skill2 Effect2 is correct now. It is similar to AMS, Honoka, etc.

wiki is generated from the skill's code, sometimes the code is different to the description (like Little Lusty wrongly decreasing your hit rate instead of the enemies')
but yeah, in this case seems like we got it wrong
Wait but if it's similar to AMS isn't her description also wrong?
(Also since when do we specify ghost guns in skills like that?)
AMS? AMS is correct. Because AMS is special 
So AMS isn't what is traditionally known as a ghost gun. It's not in a slot so I'm not even sure what its slot efficiency would be(I assume 100%)
But then the effect of UvH's skill 2 isn't similar to AMS, is it?
Well if AMS' skill desc in wiki is correct it increases her dmg, not her armour modifier
hmm someone would need to clarify whether it means damage increase or actual ammo modifier. Both ships should function the same way
Also isn't the ghost gun the same as Cheshire's in the way it works?
It doesn't work like Cheshire's actual ghost gun or her AA mount +1.
Ah wait I meant Isuzu I think
Isuzu is also AA mount +1
Anyway so it's the same for UvH/Honoka and AMS, then we should just change AMS' description to the same as UvH/Honoka right?
And it just adds 15% to armour mods for all dmg I thought?
So if I understand UvH and AMS correctly it is damage against armor not actual ammo modifier. So it should multiple with ammo modifiers(eg 140% * 1.15 not 140% + 15%)
Oh hmm
I'm not great at reading it though
But it's still different from dmg mods like out of ammo?
Or would it then stack additively with that? (It definitely doesn't)
hmm ok maybe it's ammo modifier. So that means AMS, Honoka, Exeter, etc are wrong.
Honoka has the same desc as UvH tho
Alright, I'm off to update those then I guess?
this should be pretty easy to test. 15% to he main gun against light is vastly different than 15% extra damage to light
ahh too bad first challenge mode is hiei
Allen M. Sumner
we should probably tooltip them all as ammo modifier is a pretty big difference from damage
Tooltip or the way it's done on UvH/Honoka?
Increase this ship's armor modifier against Light Armor enemies by X% (Y%)
no no the tooltip would be to note that our description differs from in game
in a meaningful way
It should be additive
yeah I got confused by that injureratio statement right before
I think injureRatio is the only multiplicative modifier in the game
Ah
What is injureRatio? 
Could you link me a page with that tooltip?
That tooltip is hard to see, shouldn't it be underlined or smth?
(Also makes it look slightly weird on mobile)
It used to be. Someone changed the styling maybe?
Wait no tooltips are underlined anymore rn? 
Ying Swei and Chang Ho have ghost AA on their skills iirc
That is the idea, but most are just the EN description copy+pasted unless known to be incorrect.
Also since they're initially done with scripts mostly
not sure what the name of the EX bosses are but ig this was copy + pasted from before this event
No copy+pasting of those tables done, so not sure what happened there...
Well, that killed my vanguard quick. Also what the heck is THIS? I'll update it once I get onto pc, unless someone beats me to it.
maybe it was just the datamine thingy then
If that's the EX fight it's saying you need at least one recommended Main Fleet member and on recommended Vanguard member, but in this case you only need one of the two for a Main Fleet member, with what FdG and NJ are slotted in, and any Vanguards
Okay, and the second line? 
You're right. Chao Ho-class has ghost AA because they have 3 main weapons. It's not by skill though. It is simply their nature
"Only certain ship types can be used for special operations.You formation for each campaing is unique."
that part about unique formations isn't new but it doesn't make sense

Maybe it's just a really messed up translation for "You can only deploy one fleet for this sortie" or something
I'd argue that goes into #bug-reports
Yeah it is, just funny finding it doing this. Also they didn't even fix the typo's when making it ineligable. Smh.
I am getting some errors and finding not working links if that is a problem but don't know if it's just a me problem, also it throws 503 HTTP errors (unable to handle request)
ok, ty for the info
any estimation on when it may be back up?
yeah, good thing I have the page I need from the wiki opened, just cannot refresh
press f5 i dare you
I'm just curious why the page for Tower of Transcendence don't have a table for Map Completion Tasks. Taking for example (using the pic below), the page for Skybound Oratorio. Is it a change of format or forgotten to add in?
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Rikka_Takarada
doesnt redirect to:
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Rikka_Takarada
while all other ship pages have such a redirect
Can you elaborate
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URL scheme was changed around November 7, the pages for that collaboration event were created 2 weeks later, so why is this a problem?
ah okay, didnt know that there were changes to how the url's worked
just noticed that rikka's page wasnt the same as older ships when it comes to the redirect
its not really a problem, i just noticed it was different from previous ships
redirects are only there for Google
to make it adjust the links
they will be removed in November 2022
On the wiki META Lab page it stats that the final reload stat bonus for Ark Royal META rigging fortification is 36, but I'm showing +32 in game on a 100% fortified Ark Royal META
I double checked with the bilibili wiki as well, but it's showing the same information as the azurlane wiki
the stats on the wiki are typically extracted from game data







