wiki-feedback

[thin wadi]

man, percent encoding

it's useful but man does it look ugly for unicode

[slim halo]

You guys seem to have a minor mistake on the ToT memories page

World-spanning arclight is the gridman collab

[tulip scaffold]

I bet that's the on-combat chapter

wait tf it's the first chapter

[tulip scaffold]

ask devs

[slim halo]

Lmfao

[pallid frost]

That asymmetric quotation mark tho

[orchid charm]

Hi green names, i think you missed "buying AP in ops" in this section
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Oil_Cost#Other_consumers_of_oil

[wraith tendon]

Good point, done

[orchid charm]

[jaunty mantle]

@forest mantle if you are here can you terminate pebble cup

[forest mantle]

What am I terminating them for?

Ah I see what it was for, shyny killed them

[jaunty mantle]

two instances of R18 spam here

the user still shows up in @ completion for me

[mossy nova]

Noticed that the event limited ships section of this page doesn't include ships from Pledge of the Radiant Court or Angel of the Iris https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Building#Time_Limited_Construction

[balmy mauve]

[balmy mauve]

updated

[mystic agate]

What font does azur lane use?

[jaunty mantle]

I am not sure this is related to the wiki

[thin wadi]

it does seem more like a #tech-support question, but it seems like a piece of trivia that'd be nice to include

[jaunty mantle]

@thin wadi do you mean wiki needs to have ‘trivia’ like typefaces used, hex colour codes for rarities, pixel distances between icons, etc.?

[thin wadi]

not needs, but it is something I would consider personally

[rugged trellis]

isn't the default currently just whatever the vector skin uses?

then the font is the same as wikipedia, if that helps you looking it up

[wraith tendon]

Pretty sure they mean the Azur Lane font, not the Azur Lane Wiki font
And I doubt the game uses Vector skin

[rugged trellis]

oh lol

message one of the devs i guess

[pallid frost]

"Agency FB" for tall text & numbers (eg level, oil count etc)
"MStiffHei PRC" ultrabold, "Impact", "BankGothic Md BT" for fancy title & PR card etc
"KaiGen Gothic KR" bold for thick text

several custom fonts here and there, and most UI elements like buttons and static text are actually images

all bets are loose when it comes to banners

[barren obsidian]

Also just wanna ask before anyone jumps anything on those fonts, are those fonts free to use or do you need to pay to use them? I know not wiki talk much but it’s technically a legal matter

[pallid frost]

eh, Agency FB, BankGothic and Impact probably come with office
So you probably have one, and licensed to use one for personal use (tied to ms office of course)

[barren obsidian]

I had a friend on twitch who almost lost his account for using font that required you to pay to use it

[pallid frost]

commercial use is a whole different matter
even open source stuffs can bite your ass there

[barren obsidian]

Ok, that’s my input

[jaunty mantle]

I have never seen Agency FB and BankGothic on my machine and I have Office Professional Plus

Impact is bundled with Windows since 95? I think?

oh, maybe even 3.1

[last moss]

Where @pure thunder

[pure thunder]

huh it got deleted already

[last moss]

Oh i guess someone got it

[gray dagger]

i was wondering if we could change this to width:fit-content to deal with the formulas, although im not sure what to do with the stuff at the top that uses absolute positioning

[gray dagger]

nevermind. i sort of got it working for mobile, but then the search bar broke. too much effort to overhaul all this css

[fickle scroll]

do you guys have the ch.17-37 EN lines yet

[hidden rain]

They are not translated yet, so no

[tulip scaffold]

waiting for tomorrow

[fickle scroll]

ah

so the EN files aren't even in yet?

[tulip scaffold]

uploaded content is what's actually in EN files

[wraith tendon]

Just like pretty much always

[hidden rain]

Hasn't always been this way, but yeah it they did start translating part 2 on day 2 for quite some time now.

[prime wigeon]

on the wiki page of gascogne muse, the EX lines are said to be unlocked at love affinity, but my gascogne muse doesn't say any of these at love affinity, so I assume her EX lines are unlocked post oath instead

[signal grail]

Wasn't Ex lines unlocking at 100 affinity a thing only for OG Gascogne?

[prime wigeon]

yeah, gascogne EX lines are unlocked at 100 affinity

but the wiki says that gascogne muse's EX lines are unlocked at Love affinity, which it doesn't

[tulip scaffold]

love = affinity 100

you just said it above

[barren obsidian]

Maybe they mean its oath lines not love

[tulip scaffold]

they forgot to edit the title

fixed now

[tulip scaffold]

done as per patch release

[thorn cave]

The wiki UI looks weird on mobile it looks like it's on desktop mode even though it's not on

[hidden rain]

Got like a screen? (IMO Desktop mode superior on mobile over mobile mode though)

[thorn cave]

It shouldn't look like this when I'm on my phone like it never look like this before

[bitter hornet]

scroll down and click "mobile view" at the bottom

[pure thunder]

though desktop mode is better to use

[prime wigeon]

is there anything wrong with yamakaze's strengthening line? She speaks 17s worth of dialogue, and I'm sure she says more than just woohoo

[pure thunder]

[prime wigeon]

this is the audio that plays when I press the play button on the wiki page, it is definitely not woohoo

[pallid frost]

looks like a lot of her voicelines audio are mixed up

[pure thunder]

||goes to see who uploaded it- oh nvm 🏃‍♂️||

[tulip scaffold]

Woohoo!

[half bear]

Ah hell naw all the color backgrounds got bleached

Same with equipment

And it looks to be the same for every faction

[bitter hornet]

fine here

[rugged trellis]

CTRL+F5 to refresh cache should bring them back

unless someone edited the global css and the server cache is broke again

[pallid frost]

CTRL+F5 on mobile browser

[rugged trellis]

oh

well then just gotta find the delete cache setting

[half bear]

Where tf is that

[wraith tendon]

Somewhere in your browser settings, probably close to things about cookies or smth

[blissful crypt]

From where do wiki contributors or the wiki get the game client source code?

[wraith tendon]

Repos like this https://github.com/AzurLaneTools/AzurLaneData

[blissful crypt]

Thanks, my Google search keywords didn't show this one, only the dead repos like dimbreath

[wraith tendon]

Scroll to the bottom and click Desktop View

Wiki just does this from time to time

[neat garden]

Is AirPower in the damage calculations supposed be Aviation?

[wraith tendon]

Please provide a link and/or screenshot of what you're talking about

[undone lily]

They probably mean this from https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Combat

[wraith tendon]

Yeah can't see a reason that says AirPower instead of Aviation

[balmy mauve]

While you are at it can you fix the 4 or so remaining skill descriptions that have them

i already changed centaur to match game description but i didnt have any of the other ships so i held off on it

Oh and kizuna ai as well

[wraith tendon]

Sure thing in about a month

[signal grail]

No Saraana or Uruuru in EN 💀

[trail wagon]

sam when roma off flag in description

[balmy mauve]

Whenever i come back from vacation

[hidden rain]

Wow, vacation instead of slaving for us... shaking my head here.

[pure thunder]

Smh my head

[hidden rain]

I like to report a murder... of the english language.

[sage glade]

Why are Large Cruiser guns on the Heavy Cruiser guns page of the wiki?

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/List_of_Large_Cruiser_Guns
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/List_of_Heavy_Cruiser_Guns

[lethal pebble]

Abyssal Refrain D3 drops rudder but not stated on the wiki page for rudder

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Abyssal_Refrain#Hard
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Improved_Hydraulic_Rudder

[wheat solstice]

fixed

[wheat solstice]

seems like used just for comparison as it mentions those guns are for CB only

[hidden rain]

Also cause Deutschland (edit: and P) ships (CA) can use one of those CB guns

[barren obsidian]

‘Pocket battleships’ like Adal too

[tame junco]

The wiki calls the "High Performance Hydraulic Steering Gear "
"Improved Hydraulic Rudder"
Why?

[tulip scaffold]

irl name versus in-game name

there still is a place for in-game names, below the title

[tough olive]

@wheat solstice

who submitted this

pretty sure this counts for the type 1 and 2 ver too

[balmy mauve]

fixed

[tough olive]

you baited me

its still 100

[pallid frost]

Meh, looks like I need to overhaul the entire equipment pages again

[balmy mauve]

takes a while to update once i edit

[tough olive]

oh

so

[balmy mauve]

just give it some time

and it will eventually be processed by the server

[tough olive]

who came up with those stats

[pallid frost]

You can look at who edited the pages smh

[tough olive]

where

[balmy mauve]

this tab here "view history"

[tough olive]

whos the bombzen

[balmy mauve]

bombzen didn't add the ordinances, its most likely the miyano guy

[pallid frost]

ordnances, not ordinances

[balmy mauve]

🦭

[tough olive]

ah I see

[balmy mauve]

anyways problem solved so case closed

[tough olive]

have fun with the overhaul

[balmy mauve]

[jaunty mantle]

wiki server going down for OS update

[jaunty gust]

okay

[wheat solstice]

someone will fix it

I just got back home

[barren obsidian]

its fixed i think, sam got on it

[wheat solstice]

neat

[tough olive]

go fix everything

[tulip scaffold]

[thorn wind]

According to the wiki, Eagle is a staff meowfficer. However, in the game it seems to be a command cat? Has this been changed or is the game text erronous?

[pure thunder]

in game text bug that just added yesterday

[hidden rain]

We are right

[pure thunder]

looks like it's fixed now

[tough olive]

I'll fix you up real good

[hidden rain]

And added... at least made it under a month!

[fickle scroll]

could you guys add memphis meta voicelines to wiki

[abstract star]

voiceline for newer pasta ships not up yet?

[rotund token]

https://i.gyazo.com/aa9b7418815b6077e542bd021088738d.png
is this information from last run? im getting 160 on 12-1 since it started this time

12-1

[hidden rain]

Last run had no listed drops, but it did mention the "chapter 8 and above" seen there. Either that's always been incorrect or it got changed, can't really tell without any values being added there...

[pallid frost]

You know what? G.50 does have 4 guns and 2 bombs, and the previous wiki page was indeed correct
Now ask #bug-reports or something idk, probably confirm first if it indeed spawn 2 bombs or not (the easier one to confirm I guess, good luck counting AA gun)

[tough olive]

I just thought u guys copied what the game said

[coral vigil]

wiki is the most accurate source of information on the game. We do try to note where the game doesn't agree with itself.

[tulip scaffold]

we extract directly from data

[balmy mauve]

sorry guys

[bitter hornet]

fresh milk directly from the cow

[hidden rain]

[tough olive]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/528197562998718474/1008810466732167168/hm.gif

[pure thunder]

[pallid frost]

[tawny star]

bomb damage does not align with the damage in the table, 100lb Skip (max) damage is there for the +13 bomb, while 800kg AP bomb (max) damage is for +10 bomb (for damage at +13 it should be 510)

it appears all bomb max damage seems to be at +10 but skip bombs are at +13 for some reason

should be 200 there

[pallid frost]

Yeah, sorry. Manual table is kinda spotty to maintain. For the actual values you can click on the bomb itself on the table below

[tawny star]

yep cool, just wanted to point that out

[hidden rain]

I don't really know much about it, but couldn't that table be automated with the same info template that feeds the plane data?

[pallid frost]

Problem is that there's too much data I'm not even sure what to display

+0 is kinda useless, so I guess +10 and +13 only huh?

[tawny star]

I agree, that would probably be the best

[hidden rain]

Well the current table is +0/+10. But of course it's very very old.

[pallid frost]

It's automated now, not sure about AA gun so I just dump them all there

[frank blade]

(There was some arguement discussions wether the girl on the left was hipper or hornet
And after closer inspection it is definitely hornet and not hipper
Just thought I would say it here for when it gets added to the loading screens page and you have to add who it is)

[bitter hornet]

Hornet has bigger boobs than that

[frank blade]

At first glance they look small
But once you take a good look you will notice they are actually quite big but not quite as big as the other 2 girls there

[delicate hatch]

specifically, trace along the contour against the mattress, frills do a very good job of hiding curves

[frank blade]

Just look at the black circles and you will see they are quite large and actually around the size of hornet booba

[balmy mauve]

theres also different boob sizes in different loading screens for the same ship, due to various artists' interpretations

[frank blade]

But yea
The only thing that says hipper is hair colour and eye colour (which is also the same as hornet)
Everything else perfectly matches hornet

[hidden rain]

https://azurlane.netojuu.com/images/0/06/Bg_bismarck_1.png Now identify the ship on the right here...

[frank blade]

Dunno
Looks like she's from arknights or something

[frank blade]

(Wait do y'all still think it's hipper and not hornet?)

[balmy mauve]

na i think its hornet

hes just asking for your help since you are more skilled at identifying ships than wiki people are

[frank blade]

[wraith tendon]

Imo the face looks like neither hornet nor hipper rly, but yeah it's more like Hornet than Hipper

[frank blade]

Someone was kinda going off at me for thinking it was hornet and not hipper even after giving all the reasons
Just wanna make sure everyone is on the same page
(I have a whole list of reasons in my head but I'm not really bothered writing it unless someone asks for it or if everyone says I'm wrong)

[hidden rain]

I very good at identifying ships... just ask Straws. He'll vouch for me, fo sure.

[mossy nova]

very very minor presentation thing, but should GZ's background be gold like Blucher's?

For an actual issue, it seems like the event banner image on the page isn't working

[tulip scaffold]

fixed

[tulip scaffold]

it still needs to be uploaded

[blissful crypt]

can you change U-37's skill to say "increases her light armor modifier by 15%" instead of the game's "increases dmg against light armor enemies by 15%"

because it's actually 18.75% damage for her barrage and 80% light mod torps, and 21.4% damage for 70% light mod torps

or are these kinds of armor-modifier buffs just implied throughout the game and the wiki

[wraith tendon]

We should edit that ig
But I don't think there is a single armour specific dmg increase skill that doesn't work like that

[blissful crypt]

if all armor "damage" skills work like that, the game text is quite disappointing

[wraith tendon]

Game text being disappointing, more news at 10

[hidden rain]

AvP: "First time?"

[wraith tendon]

But as we edited it for UvH we really should make it consistent
Not me tho, I don't have access to my pc

[coral vigil]

done. UvH, Giant Hunter, Iori, etc were all clarified at some point previously on wiki. I'll check Chkalov next.

[wraith tendon]

Harbin? Mepulse? Brüni?

[coral vigil]

Probably Broomhilda but Harbin should be different because it's torp only. ReM already says it

[wraith tendon]

It's not, it uses the same thing, just sepcifies it for index 2

[coral vigil]

if that's true then champagne also

true

harbin just went down a tier j/k

[coral vigil]

went through every skill with X armor

[harsh nexus]

weve known this since who ever the first ship was, just too lazy to fix it

[hidden rain]

So yeah, added Hipper, Brünhilde, Blücher. I did it right, right?

[hidden rain]

Added

[frank blade]

(Is this a bug or does this mean unknown
If it's unknown then it's Veneto Duca and Aquila)

[balmy mauve]

it means it's unknown

and thanks for your input, ill check with other wiki ppl

[frank blade]

[tulip scaffold]

they were already filled by that time

I guess just cache stuff

[steep radish]

Charles Ausburne's page doesn't have any info about her retrofit

[tame junco]

Let's go for a swim" – I'll go get a swimg ring... Master, are you sure I "don't need one"?

Gascogne’s T.E.A.S.E skin post oath secretary idle 3 has a spelling error:
swimg

[tulip scaffold]

this is not the right place to report in-game typos

[tame junco]

It’s in the wiki

[tulip scaffold]

yeah I know, that's why I added the strikethrough
before being a wiki typo, it's a game typo

"The summer winds... Master, is this what \"relaxation\" feels like...?|This crab seems to be saying \"hello, I'm a crab!\" ...Does what I said work as a \"joke\"?|\"Let's go for a swim\" – I'll go get a swimg ring... Master, are you sure I \"don't need one\"?"

[tulip scaffold]

(fixed for now)

[tulip scaffold]

this was also fixed (not by me)

[hidden rain]

We generally don't fix text typo's on the wiki unless fixed ingame though

[trail wagon]

why are CB guns included in the CA guns page when they already have their own page?

[blissful crypt]

because CBs can use CA guns so some unaware players may want to compare

[pallid frost]

It was mainly due to deutschland who's a CA that can equip CB, and the rest are kinda just follows

Logically we should put CA-only page and (CB-only or CB+CA) page, but that would be mostly duplicate page than what they're now (CA+CB and CB-only)

I hope the roster for CB gun won't drastically expand, otherwise we'll probably need to reconsider due to dilution

[blissful crypt]

the damage of AP Rockets T0 seems to have been lost from List of Fighers

[blissful crypt]

Meowfficer page doesn't contain OPSI skills

[pallid frost]

AP Rockets counts as torpedo

[wraith tendon]

[pallid frost]

incidentally this also means AP rocket scale into 100% AVI like torpedoes instead of bomb's 80% AVI

[hidden rain]

Nvm, can't read. Guess that also explains why the Bf-109 is so fine.

[balmy mauve]

yes thats correct

i remember someone saying that before

[blissful crypt]

if rockets were 80% avi based, they wouldn't even beat ryuusei in damage asuming 100% hit

i think

[hidden rain]

Wasn't aware Ryuusei could be used in the fighter slot

[pallid frost]

Hakuryuu moment..

[balmy mauve]

shinano moment...

[blissful crypt]

positive feedback: thanks for mentioning that the game is wrong on Bishamaru

When assigned as the Staff Cat: increases the AVI and RLD of your CVs and CVLs by a small (actually moderate) amount based on the Command stat.

[fickle scroll]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Mikasa/Gallery#Wedding-0

i think mikasa page is broken

the pajama skin shows up, but the other skins won't

including base skin

[tulip scaffold]

@rugged trellis I think that edit broke something

[fickle scroll]

ok so here's the weird thing

only pajama skins load

literally everything else in the gallery wont

wait, some others are loading

still highly inconsistent though

i don't think it's an issue with my internet - some skins load instantly, others i can wait for minutes and see nothing

[pure thunder]

probably need to wait a little longer (for the cache or something idk). works fine when logged in. doesn't work when not logged in (same problem as you)

[gray dagger]

do we have a list of what things are automated with scripts?

[wraith tendon]

On wiki? No why should "we"?

[gray dagger]

Just wondering

[harsh nexus]

we dont have a list cuz nothing is automated

[rancid tartan]

wiki "list of ships by stats" lists Charles Ausburne (Retrofit) as having a speed of zero

[tulip scaffold]

fixed

[hidden rain]

Retrofited? You mean bricked!

[thin wadi]

Z6 moment

[blissful crypt]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Barrage
how does sorting by Dmg work? I think it might be adding together multiple rows even though they're separate barrages

oh they ARE part of the same barrage, but the horizontal borders separate them across the whole row

[blissful crypt]

*upon refreshing/opening the page and before sorting, the first 5 columns are merged.
after sorting, they become two separate rows which confused me

[balmy mauve]

yeah its confusing

[balmy mauve]

but yes that's what its doing, since its the same ship skill

for example, ams has a bullet and torpedo part to her barrage, so the total barrage damage output is both of them added together and treated as one ship skill, and it does that for all barrages that have multiple sections to their barrage

[pallid frost]

This is how MediaWiki's (or rather jQuery's) table sorting works. They aren't meant to be used on spanned rows (not that table rows were meant to be spanned like that semantically in the first place)

[balmy mauve]

and unfortunately we don't have a easy to implement solution to this issue

[blissful crypt]

[velvet tiger]

So Chapter 33 of Upon the Shimmering Blue has a cutscene battle, and it seems that its dialogue is missing in the wiki... In fact, I think that the Chapter 33 text in the wiki is just stuff from Skybound Oratorio.

[tulip scaffold]

[tulip scaffold]

it should be fixed now, check reloading

[velvet tiger]

Yup, it's good, thanks.

[tulip scaffold]

[blissful crypt]

Where CloakBit is 1 or 0, depending on whether cloak is active In other words, each 150 points of AA gives +100% effective HP against air damage.
^ this explanation used to be right under the formula, but it is gone now

was that an intentional removal

was removed here

06:51, 16 July 2021‎ Snowyamur talk contribs‎ 66,154 bytes +6,780‎ Overhauled a good portion of Combat - there's still a lot to sift through and much to shorten because there's too much here for one single page

[mental fractal]

FWIW the cloak bit does complicate the EHP estimation, since with cloak even an infinite AA would still result in 10% damage taken.

[blissful crypt]

perhaps add back the CloakBit but not the eHP part. Not everyone knows what a bit is

[barren bobcat]

is the wiki being updated right now? all the ship pages are out of whack and theres random black boxes in some places. (desktop view)

or is it just me

[signal grail]

https://tenor.com/view/twomad-sonalban-brokey-swag-linus-gif-18830794

Not just you

[hidden rain]

Yeah, you got mobile AND desktop there at once. That ain't normal.

(Looks fine to me btw)

[signal grail]

main page looks like this to me

ship page

[hidden rain]

Can you try clicking mobile at the bottom then desktop again?

[signal grail]

looks normal on mobile though (both versions), weird

this is after disabling all of the extensions and ctrl+f5

mobile version looks normal for a mobile site

let me try a different browser

same thing on chrome, I use FF normally

[pallid frost]

that looks like css didn't load, again
go here first if it keep happening https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/w/load.php?lang=en-gb&modules=site.styles&only=styles&skin=vector
might need refresh if it doesn't show up first time (which is exactly what happens on those pages)

[signal grail]

blank page when I first enter that link, after F5, this:

ctrl+f5, blank again

[tender sorrel]

go back to the regular wiki page after that, seems to have fixed it for me and i was having the same issue you were

[pallid frost]

yeah, don't hard refresh
it should get cached for the other pages

[signal grail]

well it doesn't work for me, I was going to try clearing cache but it looks the same on a fresh chrome install sooo...

cleared cookies and cache anyway, still the same thing

[pallid frost]

don't clear the cache
Getting the css above once should be enough, unless your browser have weird caching rules

[signal grail]

ok, got it to work now

[signal grail]

It worked after getting this screen and immediately going to the main page, but only after I cleared the cache

[barren bobcat]

thank you, it works now

[blissful crypt]

unfortunately this means no more incognito wiki browsing

[jaunty mantle]

why do you need incognito if you do not mind me asking

I wiped the reverse cache for load.php, it may be fixed now

[jaunty mantle]

check now

sometimes certain load.php requests fail somehow and there is an empty response and I have no idea why that happens

[blissful crypt]

that fixed everything.
I use incognito to avoid messing up my url suggestions (because bookmarks are too cluttered)

[gray dagger]

i do the same

incognito if i want to do a one-off or infrequent search that i dont want url suggestions for

[rancid tartan]

Leonardo da Vinci's "Open Ocean Support" doesn't mention the OpSi effect

LdV:

U-522 (who has the exact same skill):

and yes, the opsi effect is mentioned in game

[balmy mauve]

added

[umbral rain]

i would like the al wiki to adapt the bilibili wiki a little to show reccomendations how to and what u can add if u klick a ship girl on that page

[hidden rain]

If you mean adding ECTL to the wiki, then no, visit them.

[harsh nexus]

just put us in the guide section

[blissful crypt]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Manjuu_Fast_Food
missing zeroes from the last two rewards. 12000 and 15000

[tulip scaffold]

fixed, thanks

[rare iron]

Is blucher's VA not updated yet

[jaunty mantle]

@pearl thunder can you elaborate on ‘the possibility of hosting a few AL related Spreadsheets/Calculators’ in your account request?

what does that even mean

[blissful crypt]

maybe something like User:Iram/AwesomeCalculator

[median lava]

I'm trying to get Scharnhorst but I got a Deutschand drop instead which isn't on the list

[rugged trellis]

that page lists ships that are ONLY available as a drop from maps (it clearly states "Drop-Only Ships by Map" at the the top)

Deutschland is still available from the Heavy pool

[median lava]

Ah I see , sorry for the false report

[rugged trellis]

also the linked event page lists which maps she drops from

[jaunty mantle]

@pearl thunder as you are online and have not responded in 4 hours I am assuming you are not interested in a wiki account any more; rejecting

[bold wadi]

Don't know if it's the right place to ask but it seems fitting. Is there a formula for how a ship's stats scale with its level? For example if I wanted to know Laffey's reload or health stat at level 77.
Couldn't find anything about this on the wiki, other than its base stats (with no enhancements) or lvl 100+ with lots of bonuses already applied

[balmy mauve]

@wraith tendon you can answer this

[rugged trellis]

(base_stat + ((level-1) * growth/1000) + enhance) * affinity

should still be accurate

base_stat and growth are values from the game files

[bold wadi]

hmm

is there a page for that on the wiki? not sure where I'd get the growth constant from

since idk how to get data from the game files, or is there some online db with this info?

[rugged trellis]

i'll DM you where you can find that

[bold wadi]

nice, thank you

[wraith tendon]

You could also just take 120-100, divide by 1.06 and 20
But if you want to know the stat at lvl 77 you could also divide the lvl 100 stat by 1.06 and then it scales linearly from 1 to 100

Although it doesn't have enhances at lvl 1 so actually that's not quite true

[wraith tendon]

Enhances apply to 30% at lvl 1 and the rest of it is spread over the next 99 lvls iirc

[bold wadi]

I tried playing around with that, but it would only be an estimation +-1 since idk the exact float values that the game uses, or if it takes the ceil or floor of the computed values

[wraith tendon]

Yeah, it takes floor for representation

[bold wadi]

ah and also idk how to handle enhancements if I were to do that, since the data shown for level 100 is already enhanced

[rugged trellis]

it floors at the end after applying the affinity multiplier

[bold wadi]

I see

[wraith tendon]

Well you could just calculate the growth like I said, then add it times 99 to the lvl 1 stat, subtract that from the listed lvl 100 stat divided by 1.06 and with that you'd have the enhance value

The battle is actually calculated with the floats tho

Btw on that note didn't we want to update the wiki to display the first decimal for stats or smth?

[hidden rain]

Wasn't that just for speed for some reason?

[wraith tendon]

No, it just was brought up cuz someone pointed out Mogami's speed, but other than that no one said it would be limited to speed only
Honestly would be pretty weird to do it for speed only cuz that's a stat where decimals aren't all that consequential

[pallid frost]

Eh, off by 1 block/turn would be very visible, if inconsequential

[wraith tendon]

Yeah I just meant that you usually don't rly care about that

[ocean vector]

anyone knows what's Blucher's multipliers on her skills?

[wraith tendon]

I have no idea what you mean by that

What "multipliers" are you referring to?

[ocean vector]

modifiers of her S1 barrage and ghost gun

[wraith tendon]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Riceist/BarrageDatamine

[pallid frost]

Ghost gun should be 5x16 DMG, 1.6s RLD 120/60/60

[ocean vector]

well no wonder the ghost gun seemed weird it's HE

[wraith tendon]

I keep forgetting what the reload factor is

[ocean vector]

god i wish she's as tanky as Eugen,her hp is dragging her down

[pallid frost]

#game-feedback

[pallid frost]

sqrt(7200*3.14)
or just use 150, close enough heh

[wraith tendon]

Thx then ye 1.6 is right

[ocean vector]

thanks for the link

[trail wagon]

this is U-37 page

[wraith tendon]

Fixed, Naga broke it by accident when reformatting some things

[balmy mauve]

its fixed yea

[jaunty bear]

101 wolf pack skill mentions evasion rate in game and on cn wiki. while en wiki it just says evasion

[wraith tendon]

It's eva rate

fixed

I didn't rly care about consistency on the U-37 fix though, so if someone wants all those "Improve Hunting Range" things to be the same, knock yourself out

[blissful crypt]

Is there merit to making List of Submarine Torpedoes inconsistent with the other Lists,
By showing salvo or total damage instead of DPS?
Also show targeting range, not torpedo range.

[vestal robin]

@fleet halo I can't seem to get an email when I request a password reset on the Wiki

[fleet halo]

@jaunty mantle

[jaunty mantle]

What is your user name?

[vestal robin]

HassanTNT

[jaunty mantle]

I do not think we have a user with this username on the wiki

@vestal robin are you sure you are not mistaken?

the user list only has Hassat Hunter starting with Hassa

you can DM me your email, I will look that up

[vestal robin]

If you can't find my email, then make me create a new account

[jaunty mantle]

excuse me what

you can request an account yourself via the Request account page

note that new accounts are not approved without a compelling reason

[coral vigil]

I've been thinking of doing 2/2 + 3/2 total dps for subs.

That's number of salvos for double and triple torps

[vestal robin]

@jaunty mantle I requested an account

[jaunty mantle]

1. email was not confirmed
2. I am not sure why ‘wanting to know more’ about the game requires an account and what does ‘being a helpful editor’ mean; it is extremely generic

we do not approve accounts for ‘just in case I decide to edit someday in the future’ reasons

[vestal robin]

BTW I also shared my Discord tag and Azur Lane account name

[jaunty mantle]

sadly, it does not seem like you have read what I posted above.

[vestal robin]

I got a notification saying that the email was confirmed

[jaunty mantle]

sadly, it does not seem like you have read what I posted above.

[vestal robin]

then how do I write a good request reason

[jaunty mantle]

please explain why do you need an account in less generic words than ‘being a helpful editor’

as in, what are you planning to edit

we do not generally accept generic phrases like that as anti-spam measure

you do not need an account to view everything on the wiki

[vestal robin]

Pages like New Jersey, Kronshtadt, etc.

[hidden rain]

And what would you edit on said pages, that's the question

[vestal robin]

Uh... I don't know.

[jaunty mantle]

I’ll think about it in the morning

I do not like when people have no idea what they need an account for

It almost always ends up weird later

[slim notch]

On this page in the green box, it appears that the icons for Submarine Torpedoes and Fighters have formed a most unholy union.
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/List_of_Battleship_Guns

[bitter hornet]

?

[slim notch]

I had a feeling it might just be me, but this is what I see.

[jaunty mantle]

what browser is it

[barren obsidian]

Try refreshing?

[jaunty mantle]

I cannot reproduce this in Firefox and Edge

[barren obsidian]

Top mobile, bottom desktop on mobile

Also top has no image on mobile for sea planes or sub torps or gear skins

[jaunty mantle]

I tried different zoom factors and widths

had no issues

weird

[barren obsidian]

Only issue I see is mobile not correctly displaying symbol next to name of category

For some

That’s all

[jaunty mantle]

if I could repro this it would be possible to inspect and see what is wrong

but :\

sadly no one bothered to tell me which browser it is

[barren obsidian]

Mine was safari

There’s idk

[slim notch]

Firefox.

Might just be a screen res issue on my end then. I'm viewing on a 4k monitor. Zoomed in to 140%, it displays properly.

[jaunty mantle]

I use a 4K monitor and Firefox as my main browser

[jaunty mantle]

what I am very confused about is the positioning of CB Guns in your screenshot

I cannot seem to find a screen size that would move just that over to the 2nd column

first is either 4 or 2

[slim notch]

It's likely just scaling shenanigans on my end. Zoomed in to 140% gets me 4 in the first column with nothing overlapping. Zoomed out to 60% gets me 2 in the first column with nothing overlapping. So disregard since it doesn't seem to be a wiki issue.

[jaunty mantle]

it probably is a CSS issue :|

[thorn cave]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/User:ArdWar/SekritGun#35300
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/User:Miyano311/Sandbox/NewEquipDump#85500

[thorn cave]

What happened to this page?

[rugged trellis]

You're using old links, these work:
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:ArdWar/SekritGun
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Miyano311/Sandbox/NewEquipDump

[rugged trellis]

i was very sad when i saw that these shitty 2017 boxes were being used

they have some core problems with their css, which is why i tried to remove them wherever possible

[thorn cave]

Thx

[jaunty mantle]

I think fixed 200px width is a glaring problem if I ever saw one

[delicate cedar]

Author for Blucher should be Hipper artist

Kurumi drew the skin

not the girl herself

proof being that hipper artist put out concept art for Blucher and the whole chart of her and hipper

https://twitter.com/NINLION/status/1558639557494448128

NIN (@NINLION)

勝手なヒッパとブリの脳内設定

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[quaint stream]

hello, please consider adding Eugen's augment module to the Armour Break Source chart. I for instance wanted to comfirm wether it used the regular 401 ID or not

[wraith tendon]

It is 401

[quaint stream]

thanks 😉

[fathom oriole]

Is it just me or Memphis' page on the wiki is messed up?
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Memphis

[jaunty mantle]

please explain what does messed up mean, preferably with a screenshot

[hidden rain]

Probably click desktop at the bottom of the case.

[fathom oriole]

Oh, you're right. For some reason, it opened in mobile view despite all previous pages showing in desktop view.

[thin wadi]

yup, mobile view on desktop is a known issue that occasionally occurs for unknown reasons

probably slight miscaching

[grizzled pond]

Sorry, wrong server

[potent pilot]

Chao Ho's Post-Oath lines have some repeated lines with some unorthodox line changes like Disappointed, the repeated ones with no audio button; probably a byproduct of copy paste while editing that wasnt properly deleted.

[tulip scaffold]

quotes aren't copy-pasted

plus source files have them doubled as well

[potent pilot]

idk it was just my guess

[potent pilot]

hmm thats definitely strange. especially regarding disappointed affinity. also CN/JP versions dont have them

[pallid frost]

#bug-reports

[tulip scaffold]

[velvet laurel]

on the Loading Screens page, 2 of the images are missing https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Loading_Screens

[woven tendon]

I just got yubari from d2, but don't see that in the wiki as an option

[hidden rain]

She's in B2 too, waiting for ArdWar to rerun the script to see if other things changed since CN's first release...

[hidden rain]

"Not available in CN"
Yeah that explains her absence, since the table got pulled off CN.

[thin wadi]

I had my suspicions on that

[jaunty mantle]

apropos of nothing, I want to reiterate for people who are unable to read English as wiki tells them

I wanna see these loading screens (File:Bg 2022.09.15 7.png and File:Bg 2022.09.15 8.png) and I can't because it requests that I Log In. I don't even want the account I'm just looking for this one loading screen of the girls looking at the book, I really like the art style on that picture. Anyways, sorry if this wastes your time.

when the wiki tells you to log in if you click a red file link or something like that, it means the file DOES NOT EXIST and it is suggesting you UPLOAD IT if you have it

please stop requesting accounts for this specific reason (to ‘see’ some images that are not there at all)

[bitter hornet]

@hidden rain for bgs

[thin wadi]

could the text there be tweaked to "if you would like to upload this missing file, log in"?

okay nvm just checked and that's like six rather short words, who misunderstands that tf

[jaunty mantle]

I want to see a page that links to these files

[thin wadi]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Loading_Screens

[jaunty mantle]

Please log in to upload files.

[hidden rain]

I uploaded all I got. Back to you for the rest (and Yuudachi activitybanner)

[bitter hornet]

wdym

[thin wadi]

though, if you try to go to the page that file should be after upload, you get this page: https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/File:Bg_2022.09.15_7.png

[jaunty mantle]

MW default behaviour is to offer to upload missing files

[hidden rain]

Guess my "there's more but I dont got them, wait for other wiki-ers" backfired, huh?

[thin wadi]

yeah, the link from loading screens leads to this: https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Special:BatchUpload?wpDestFile=Bg_2022.09.15_7.png

[jaunty mantle]

I got 4 account requests today that were purely for viewing those two images

people are very good at reading English

[hidden rain]

Thirsty players

[jaunty mantle]

that is aside from ≈20 spambot-looking ones

[hidden rain]

Thirsty bots

[quiet raven]

So is there anyone related to algwiki by chance? I’m interested in a chibi or two

[supple wigeon]

Shouldn't the "little" ships have the "little" in the HTML title tag?

[balmy mauve]

tell devs to fix it then

we just following game

[hidden rain]

(Except for those german named ships like Z19... maybe we should)

[supple wigeon]

[wraith tendon]

I mean that doesn't mean we have to have that as title

[queen slate]

Miyuki's page goes to a mobile layout on desktop? https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Miyuki

[wraith tendon]

Scroll to bottom and click desktop

[queen slate]

wasn't doing it for any other character

[wraith tendon]

It's a known issue with mediawiki, nothing much we can do about it

[queen slate]

ah huh

[wraith tendon]

Yeah happens to random ppl on random pages

[delicate hatch]

hi Ashen Simulacrum does not appear to have listed oil caps, pls add, have done D1 and D2 so far and they seem to match the usual pattern

(29/39/15 for D1 and 32/43/16 for D2)

[elder iris]

I'm surprised images of the... graphs? on the right of these images are not on the wiki.

For each ship. I just gave two examples.

[signal grail]

why would you need those graphs when there are exact stats listed?

[harsh nexus]

1. We have the stats on the wiki
2. They're misleading and completely useless

[warm wren]

Comparing https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Chapter_14 with https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Chapter_13 I notice under the section 'map drops' for chapter 14, no "Coins (~ amount per run)" and "clear bonus Coins amount" are mentioned. I'm currently farming 14-2 on safe for coins. Do you want data on the coins from that chapter? Or do you already have it and is it just in the backlog somewhere. And if you do want data. How do you want me to record the data for you?

[hidden rain]

One of the newer editors is adding those... I don't think they got to chapter 14 themselves yet

[warm wren]

Alright, whelp, if they want data, I dont mind helping

[jaunty mantle]

you could always request an account and help directly

[blissful crypt]

change I-19 wiki skill description to be less ambiguous
from

After entering battle for 8s, fires a wave of penetrating torpedoes. Torpedoes can penetrate once (Can hit up to 2 targets, armor piercing).
to
After entering battle for 8s, fires a wave of penetrating torpedoes. This barrage's torpedoes can penetrate once (Can hit up to 2 targets, armor piercing).
or
After entering battle for 8s, fires a wave of penetrating torpedoes that can penetrate once (Can hit up to 2 targets, armor piercing).

[harsh nexus]

what does the armor piercing part even mean? cut that out

[bitter hornet]

I think that's the original skill desc or the original translated skill desc from 2018

[last moss]

Are there any plans to mention the new DD MLB bonuses (1/2 AoA shot req, narrowed torp spread, 30% aux buffs) in pages aside from every ship's individual page?
I was thinking it'd be a good idea to have those listed in a new column in https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/List_of_Ships_by_Stats#Destroyers or some other place that's a better fit.

Riceist has a page for it, but it's hard to find for a new user https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Riceist/DDBuffs

[blissful crypt]

Not updated

[last moss]

That's beyond the point

[harsh nexus]

im not opposed to someone updating it for me

[hidden rain]

Pasted the ingame description instead.

[vale gazelle]

Is Anchorage or formidable in this background?
Someone on reddit point out that it is formidable but Wiki say she is Anchorage ?
I do have an wiki account which I can edit but I can just want to confirm first?

[balmy mauve]

I don't see a formi but i do see an anchorage

[hidden rain]

I'm no expert but that black/white headdress does look like Formi's.

[balmy mauve]

Formis isnt a headband, and on anchorage it is a headband

And that looks more like a headband

[brave otter]

It's Formidable, as Anchorage's headband is white with some red and very little black while Formidable's ribbons are white and black

[balmy mauve]

[quiet raven]

All Skills page

[wraith tendon]

Should be fixed?

[quiet raven]

Still there for me after clearing cache, but will try later from pc

[wraith tendon]

Hmm probably cloudflare still delivering old page or smth think Ardwar had sent some fix here that gave you some sort of cookie or smth so that doesn't happen

(Idrk how that works myself, but it's smth like ppl without cookies getting changes only later)

Also probably mobile view is still broken, someone else can look into that, some issue with tooltips and I suppose its reftag stuff

On that note why is there a refnote under every single ship in mobile view that says "Requires Max Limit Break to unlock"?

[hidden rain]

Melee

[distant bloom]

This gun have wrong id, 14400 is id for blue/t1 and 14460 is id for rainbow/t0 or this is intended?

[hidden rain]

For the 's:

[magic shadow]

The entry in the Barrage page for Kashino's hidden skill "I've Brought Your Cannons!" is outdated. It also triggers when sortied with Musashi, which would mean that it'd work with any Yamato-class.

[balmy mauve]

I fixed it on kashinos personal page upon musashi launch, but yea need to update that

[grizzled cosmos]

Kronshtadt's wiki page seems to be broken on mobile

[wraith tendon]

Tooltips are just broken on mobile currently

[muted flower]

for some reason i cannot access the wiki just for my internet

it says the site cannot be reached but i can do literaly anything else on my internet

[jaunty mantle]

Well, I cannot even begin researching this since you have not provided the output of tracert/traceroute from your PC to the wiki

[muted flower]

i just downloaded like 600 images off of the wiki :)

[jaunty mantle]

You can also DM me your IP address and I will check if it is black-listed, but that will be in 7-8 hours-

Oh

That would do it

[muted flower]

so im blacklisted now?

[jaunty mantle]

You are banned for an hour, unless you hit the rate enough for a permanent automatic ban

[muted flower]

thank god

[jaunty mantle]

At least I think it is an hour

Might be a day, I forgot what I set the table expiration to

[muted flower]

even if its 1 day its better than perma

[jaunty mantle]

Though technically if you were downloading purely images it should not have happened

Images are hosted by Cloudflare

[muted flower]

i was downloading them pretty fast near the end

[jaunty mantle]

You would have to hit the actual wiki pages to get automatically black-listed

[muted flower]

yea its just 1 hour

[muted flower]

thank you for your help btw

[full thistle]

Can the carrier hidden mechanic get added to the combat section of the wiki? I also learned today from Azur Lane help desk that the hidden mechanic affects Exercises, by preventing your BBs from being able to shoot CVs while they are hidden. (I thought it was a bug when my ships wouldnt shoot for a solid 30 secs while getting air raided, it only happens once my vanguard is dead)

While reddit covers some of the hidden mechanic, that part was nowhere I could find.

[balmy mauve]

i just added it to the wiki right now https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Combat#Detection_Line (might take a while to update on users' end though) thanks for feedback this just slipped our minds apparently

also in this server there is /detection which also should provide information about it

[full thistle]

Thanks Sam! Much appreciated! Not entirely sure what /detection is but I'll figure that one out lol pretty sure there is an appropriate channel where I can ask about that haha

[balmy mauve]

type "/detection" in #bot-spam, its a nimi bot command

[full thistle]

THAT IS SO COOL

[balmy mauve]

yeah you can do /help and /tags for the entire list of stuff, its pretty nice

[hidden rain]

Corrected, as well as having the wrong minimum damage listed

[fickle scroll]

little spee has an event story, it's not on wiki

[tulip scaffold]

it already is

[hidden rain]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Memories/The_Pursuit_of_Little_Spee

[tulip scaffold]

1 hour ago

[hidden rain]

Too slow Kyouin!

[tulip scaffold]

for what

btw what is currently missing (will come pretty soon) is the actual event page, so that's why (probably?) you couldn't find the event story

[hidden rain]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/The_Pursuit_of_Little_Spee

Smh

[tulip scaffold]

my bad

oh I got it, it is missing the story link inside the infobox

[hidden rain]

(Didn't knew we'd get a story 11 hours ago)

[fickle scroll]

It wasn’t on the event page then

[tulip scaffold]

yeah fixed

[teal hawk]

<@&472236072743600148>

[limpid lodge]

[quaint stream]

[balmy mauve]

[sudden python]

[pure thunder]

[bitter hornet]

[barren obsidian]

this isn’t Korone channel

Has the new WA been updated on wiki yet?

[white cargo]

[bitter hornet]

Check the wiki and find out

[barren obsidian]

[barren obsidian]

but that’s your job

[bitter hornet]

[hidden rain]

JP or EN? And if EN what exactly needs adding?

[barren obsidian]

i meant has it been added to the WA yet the link i mean

but nvm i can check myself

[hidden rain]

Well, SCB has been there since JP/CN got it

[barren obsidian]

yeah i wasnt sure if EN was added there yet, but nvm its ok

[balmy mauve]

I updated all the instances i saw of swirling cherry blossoms (minus ship pages) saying "cn/jp only" before the maint yesterday which caused some temporary confusion among some players but if i missed any plz let us know and we can fix

[barren obsidian]

ok, if i see anything will do

also, i know it might sound like extra effort, but have you guys thought of making an actual section for the link to each event thats archived, so it only shows archived content of said event map, rather then seeing 'shop available for event, SP/Extra stages, rewards milestones and event currency, etc.' just an idea

[eternal copper]

The cog chip listing for 13-4 is wrong at the very least you can get fewer than 20 chips

[thin wadi]

[blissful crypt]

I don't play 13-4 but I'm fairly certain food can drop as more than one oxycola. Like torpedo tempura or the coolant thing can also drop

[eternal copper]

Probably, yeah I pay little attention to clear rewards other than coin and chips

[hidden rain]

^

[balmy mauve]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/War_Archives we already have one...

[thin wadi]

and on the respective pages there is also this link:

[thin wadi]

so what you're asking about is a page with:
Ships(?), if that is even relevant since they'd be a map drop, in permanent construction, or one of the various shops
associated skins and furniture, if that matters
Map info with the event currency and special stages cut
Am I understanding correctly?

and the War Archive page, while it shows where the ships are now available, does not give detailed information of the event stages that the archived version retained

[balmy mauve]

if you want detailed information about each individual event stage, check the event's wiki page
the war archive page is meant to be a general overview

[barren obsidian]

Yeah, you access the war archives page, click on the relevant event, and it takes you to the actual event, which shows the event currency, etc

[balmy mauve]

thats what it currently does...

[bitter hornet]

[hidden rain]

I guess you want JUST the maps part of event pages for archives?
I can easily make it the link on the WA pages go to maps (which is also what I did on shippages until someone undid all that linking them just to the event )

[barren obsidian]

yeah thats what i was thinking, cause once an event is archived, the actual event content, involving shop and such, is invalid

like, i know it sounds dumb, but having Swirling Cherry Blossoms - Event and Swirling Cherry Blossoms - Archived would be an idea

and for all the archived ones too

so the link thats in said War Archives wiki page, actually takes you to all of the content available in said Archived variation of event, including any ships adding to merit shop, build pool, map drops, etc

[thin wadi]

or maybe separate the maps out into their own page during the regular event and link them from the archive page afterwards?

[tulip scaffold]

why complicate things
or adding duplicates

[balmy mauve]

I mean we have table of contents on pages for a reason

[sage glade]

for merit ships suck as Duke of York, it says exchange. Could it hyperlink to https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Shops#Merit_Shop like on Fiji's page (who is obtainable via core data as well)

Fiji

Duke of York

Also, on the shops page https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Shops

it mentions the exchange shop which hyperlinks to https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Building#Exchange which is a bit confusing because there is no #Exchange in the table of contents

Unless I'm just misunderstanding the point of that hyperlink (but my point still stands that it is slightly confusing)

Unless it was originally supposed to be the medal exchange

in which case the medal shop is on https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Shops already making the "Also see the Exchange Shop" hyperlink redundant

[hidden rain]

Have you tried... clicking on the icon under " exchange"?

[hidden rain]

That medal shop got moved, guess we overlooked that link. Fixed.

[sage glade]

Gotcha, but it's still inconsistent between core data ships and merit exchange ships

[hidden rain]

How so, the merit icon brings you to the merit shop and the core data icon to the core data shop. Seems consistent to me?

[balmy mauve]

the code data shop icon brings you to https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Shops#Core_Exchange, when it probably should bring you to https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Shops#Core_Shop

that should be changed imo

[thin wadi]

Fiji has an extra row in the table about how she's available for 1000 core data, while DoY does not have that, only the icon entry on the left

[hidden rain]

DoY is a far more recent addition than Fiji, back when the exchange tab just showed V so you needed that info. So basically legacy stuff (much like we probably should purge Gear Lab "drop" from gear lab items since there's 2 full tabs that show gear lab related things below it, so it's redundant)

[sage glade]

@hidden rain Fiji has "Additional notes" whereas Duke of York doesn't

that was what I meant

[jaunty mantle]

@knotty wasp as you still have not confirmed your email address for the account request, it will be rejected; I also want to point out that the Azur Lane Wiki is not called Naval History Wiki and while you are free to re-request an account, it would be nice if we could expect contributions that relate to the game itself rather than historical trivia and miscellanea

[knotty wasp]

Of course. Sorry I didn’t provide the confirmation as I was suddenly busy with midterms

My input can definitely be more than just history, as I’m well-versed in the lore and I can help with other matters should it be requested of me

Aaand my email is confirmed. Sorry for the wait and I hope we can discuss this further. I want to do what I can to contribute to this community. It’s done a lot for me

[jaunty mantle]

you need to re-apply as I stated

your request was already rejected

oh wait

I probably can still fetch it hmm

nope, cannot

just request an account again

[knotty wasp]

Ah ok. Thanks

I’ll do it later today. It’s 2:50 my time and I need rest. Migraines are killing me

[blissful crypt]

in List of Submarine Torpedoes, I believe that turn rate should be reduced. Perhaps halving these values would be correct or at least a better guess.

(surface magnetic torpedoes should match g7e)

[harsh nexus]

The values were grabbed from code so unless someone can prove values otherwise I don't think it's changing

[random frost]

On the 4th anniversary loading screen Hai Tien is for some reason labeled as Dunkerque

Having that said in my account request i mixed up Hai Tien with Chen Hai

[hidden rain]

That is Dunkerque

Her headgear and the dark ends of her hair make it very easy to confirm.

[random frost]

Did i Mandela effect myself with her eye color

1000% thought they were yellow

Maybe because on the ani art the gradient looks more aggressive

[buoyant yarrow]

I've got a small clarification to make on the https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Hermes page, the Skill "(Retrofit) Destiny Draw!" is actually a direct reference to the Destiny Draw Mechanic used in The "Yu-Gi-Oh! Tag Force" game series. There, if your Life Points dropped below a certain threshold, you'd be given the option to "Destiny Draw" cards which would have been marked as eligible during deck creation (usually things which made turnarounds possible such as Mirror Force or Black Hole but it was the player who chose them).

[rancid tartan]

CL gun use list:

if you're going to be pedantic about which ships can use CL guns, do note that Tallinn (as a CA) can use CL guns

[balmy mauve]

theres also suzuya and kumano as well

ill fix it when i get back on pc unless someone else fixes it first

[rancid tartan]

or you could just not be this overly pedantic and say "it goes in CL gun slots"

[hidden rain]

This is why trivia was a mistake

[buoyant yarrow]

I think it's a neat concept and we'll all know more about all the references in time.

[hidden rain]

Both Mogami class yet Mogami doesn't have this option if she's CA

Its all fun and games till we add for Marblehead

[buoyant yarrow]

Wasn't Marblehead's only skill Quick Reload?

[signal grail]

You pure, innocent soul, you.

[tulip scaffold]

[balmy mauve]

[signal grail]

[pure thunder]

[thick jacinth]

(https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Operation_Siren#Enforcer_VIII:_Determination-1)

[pure thunder]

fixed

[buoyant yarrow]

Apart from whatever dark secret Marblehead's skill may hold, I tried my hand at rewriting Hermes' trivia:
| Skill2Note = Reference to [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yu-Gi-Oh! ''Yu-Gi-Oh!''], more specifically, a reference to the [https://yugioh.fandom.com/wiki/Yu-Gi-Oh!_Tag_Force "Tag Force"] series' "Destiny Draw" mechanic where, upon reaching a low Life Point threshold, the duelist may draw specific cards from their deck to help them turn the duel in their favor.

Never written wikia entries before, sorry if there are any issues with it.

[barren obsidian]

How is this on topic to AL?

[buoyant yarrow]

Hermes is a Light Carrier in Azur Lane.
Her design, dialogue and Retrofit skill overtly reference Yu-Gi-Oh! and the latter directly references Tag Force's Destiny Draw mechanic.
This is about the trivia portion of her wiki page not referencing the correct thing from Yu-Gi-Oh!.

[blissful crypt]

yorck

[proven fossil]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Dockyard#Retrofit

Juneau isn't on the retrofit ships table

[barren obsidian]

add Shropshire to that list too

[balmy mauve]

@proven fossil @barren obsidian both have been added

[left fiber]

There's also Charles Ausburne which was in August, I think.

[balmy mauve]

yes you right lemme go add that real quick

[balmy mauve]

added

[tough burrow]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Combat

August is not on the list of Armor Break values

[balmy mauve]

Its not technically an armor break in the traditional sense
Armor break currently is defined as "increases shelling damage taken" for enemies (usually heavy armor) that have armor break status, but augusts is for avi damage and for light/med enemies so its kinda different

[wraith tendon]

Same reason Musashi isn't in there
Ig Eugen aug should be added tho

[barren obsidian]

I haven’t checked the wiki, but what about An Shans barrage?

Wasn’t it sorta of a armor break thing?

[bitter hornet]

Maybe check the wiki

[barren obsidian]

Nvm she’s there

[balmy mauve]

All spread type slashes have armor break 401 as well

[tough burrow]

If it’s listed as part of the ability as an armor break, I think it should at least be mentioned in the Armor break section.

[pure thunder]

Armor break is increase FP damage taken. Avp is increase AVI damage taken, so it's not armor break

[wraith tendon]

If anything we should maybe rewrite the skill so it doesn't mention Armor break

[hidden rain]

Maybe the devs need to finally make AvP's skill description correct

[hidden rain]

"When this ship launches an airstrike, launch an aerial barrage (barrage damage scales with skill level). Light and medium armor enemies hit by this barrage take 8% more aviation damage for 5s. "
It doesn't

[wraith tendon]

Didn't check AvP but Musashi does

[tough burrow]

Maybe you need to change your definition of armor break to be more inclusive of what the devs consider armor break to be. Perhaps in the past Armor Break was very specific to heavy armor and FP damage, but that’s not what it is necessarily all the time anymore.

[harsh nexus]

looking at the ingame descriptions, the devs dont know themselves what they want armor break to be

[blissful crypt]

change these to Logistics and Directives to match ingame displayed vocabulary? i was confused what Command was

except that some ingame skills say "Command"

[proven fossil]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Barrage

Musashi barrage isn't on the list

Or is it people hasn't get the numbers?

[wraith tendon]

No we are just sort of lazy to keep that thing up to date

I'd recommend reading User:Riceist/BarrageDatamine instead

[proven fossil]

ok thanks

[light birch]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Unicorn#Retrofit-0

Her retrofit skill is explained wrong, where is says "...and the lowest hp ship in your main fleet for another 3% of its max hp". It talks about it additively, however, the actual effect is that the first airstrike heals the vanguard for 8% and the whole main fleet for 5% hp, but subsequent airstrikes heal the vanguard for 8% and only the lowest hp ship in the main fleet for 3%.

[balmy mauve]

nope, i just tested it, and the main fleet heal is only activated on strike 1 and NOT on subsequent strikes

do you have a video showing the main fleet heal activating on subsequent airstrikes?

[half bear]

Hunter Meta doesn't have the "For her normal variant, see ___" thing all the METAs have right under their name

The inverse also applies to regular Hunter

[wraith tendon]

Fixed

[half bear]

Pog

[light birch]

So the in-game description is very wrong then?

Or at least very misleading.

[wraith tendon]

Yeah I also misunderstood it at first

[hidden rain]

cough AUGUST VON PARSEVAL cough

[wraith tendon]

That's different though, Unicorn is just very misleading. AvP is just straight wrong

[blissful crypt]

Standardize volley vs salvo across the wiki?

I know the game is hopeless but the wiki is fixable

[pure thunder]

isn't it fixed already (in wiki)

[blissful crypt]

Richelieu

And these are understandable, but still kinda weird: anything with fast loads like renown meta, seydlitz, yamameta

Yamammeta though has a damage boost which should be salvo

[pure thunder]

so it's the newer ships :MurmPain:

[blissful crypt]

Renown meta, not little renown

Richelieu isn't new though

[pure thunder]

must have missed it

[barren obsidian]

Addition of new story for Hanazuki will be added soon I assume?

[pure thunder]

i'm not sure about her skill if it's really 1st salvo or only the 1st volley like bismarck/JB

[blissful crypt]

First manual salvo

[wraith tendon]

Huh true guess ingame desc is also wrong here

[harsh nexus]

theres many cases of indesc being wrong, just look for tooltips on the ship pages

[wraith tendon]

Well I changed wiki to salvo for Richelieu, but didn't make a tooltip

[hidden rain]

Already up there since friday

[hidden rain]

Smh

[frank blade]

im guessing they just havent been added to the wiki yet

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Anti-Submarine_Warfare
and the skills on this page need update with jervis janus and albion
(dunno if anyone else)

[sick glacier]

APB and APM's mods for CB guns are listed backwards

[blissful crypt]

Oof

[signal grail]

They are the same way as the game lists them

[blissful crypt]

it doesn't match the dps table below though

[blissful crypt]

the bottom row here is Brest's gun, the second from bottom row is Kron's gun.

basically the armor mods and the spread are mixed

[signal grail]

Oh yeah, gotta switch "APB" and "APM"

[blissful crypt]

no, switch the armor mods

[signal grail]

I mean in the lower table

the mods are correct

wait

[blissful crypt]

i imagine APB = kron because "B-50" while APM = brest because "MLE"

[signal grail]

ok yeah it's all messed up

[coral vigil]

fixed

[half bear]

Despite Janus now having her article, any pre-existing mention of her (Like in Indomitable's gallery as pictured) doesnt link to her page

And vice versa with none of the images featuring her being in her gallery

[barren obsidian]

Also seeing as those pics don’t have Indomi link, I assume those were added too?(nvm read it was in Indomi gallery)

[winter reef]

u-37 wiki page doesn't mention "as a map drop"

[tulip scaffold]

fixed

[signal grail]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Janus
Wouldn't it be better to include this in the description of the 1st skill instead of the bottom of the page? I only noticed this today

[hidden rain]

That's how we've done hidden skill additions till now (just check Kashino or Shinano)

[signal grail]

Yeah and because of that, I imagine not many people know Kashino also fires her barrage with Musashi

There's nothing about that on Musashi's page, btw

[haughty basalt]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Voice_Actors
I don't have the game installed anymore but aren't Blucher and Le Malin sharing VA or are those two different people?

[hidden rain]

Same people just the names reverted (they recently started having them in the opposite order)

[sick glacier]

no shit, thats literally what the post is about lmfao

To this day i have not a single clue why they even Made brest's gun AP

[blissful crypt]

i was explaining to the other guy

[sick glacier]

oh sorry i clicked the wrong name when replying by accident

[distant bloom]

Chao ho obtain note

[balmy mauve]

chao hao does have a 50% default AA gun, thats correct
its just mobile view UI is scuffed, switch to desktop view and it should look normal

[distant bloom]

That is obtainment notes? That desc kinda not related, just put notes below like kashino

[balmy mauve]

on desktop view, its listed as "additional notes"
mobile view is just scuffed in general

[pure thunder]

Mobile UI is shit scuffed, don't use them. Scroll down and click Switch to desktop even if you're on mobile

[balmy mauve]

and unfortunately since its very complicated to tinker with mobile view, i don't see it changing anytime soon

[distant bloom]

I mean even the wiki source title is dropNote just kinda inconsistent put that information into drop note imo

[patent hemlock]

No new augment expansion in Akashi shop

[bitter hornet]

added

[hidden rain]

It's called that since that's where dropstuff goes. But she has just the note, not the other stuff (since her light pool entry goes ontop in mobile). Not really going to change it all for the one outlier though.

[fresh jungle]

Yo, Wiki lacks info about Musashi Armor Break

[hidden rain]

Something something not Armor Break... it was discussed here recently.

#wiki-feedback message

[barren obsidian]

Well, should the definition of ‘Armour-Break’ be updated then to include all of them?

[tulip scaffold]

ask devs

[barren obsidian]

I meant, what defines armour break as armour break was all, if some of those niche skills that we don’t class should count

[tulip scaffold]

it depends on the actual effects defined in files, so it's not something on our end

[harsh nexus]

Avp is technically AB if we just add a Avi/fp/trp column

But stuff like Tani would fall under it as well

[signal grail]

or Helena with the most ridiculous armor break in the game

[signal grail]

y'know, with the scan'em-so-hard-they-take-more-damage-from-everything skill

https://tenor.com/view/why-are-you-booing-me-im-right-gif-10368876

[bitter hornet]

that's mind break

[thin wadi]

no, that's the stuff you give your ships the Cog for

[barren obsidian]

armor break and 'damage amplifiers' are different

[barren obsidian]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Research_Academy

on this page, why is this a pinged item

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_100mm_AA_(Mle_1931)

[blissful crypt]

why not, it's research only. like blue twin 550

[barren obsidian]

but, does it have any use?

[blissful crypt]

no

there's no reason not to put blue gear there, it makes the wiki info complete

like confetti gun is listed there, is it good? ignore my name

[blissful crypt]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/List_of_Ships_by_Airspace_Control_Value

Albion is chilling with a 12 airplane load out

[sage glade]

does a skin release timeline exist on the wiki?

[balmy mauve]

/wiki recent news

[quaint stream]

Bridal Z23

Azur Lane Wiki

Multiple results found

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Recent_News
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Recent_News/EN/2021
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Recent_News/JP/2018
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Recent_News/JP/2020
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Recent_News/EN/2019
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Recent_News/CN/2018
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Recent_News/CN/2019
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Recent_News/EN/2020
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Recent_News/JP/2019
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Recent_News/CN/2017

Nov 17, 2022, 4:22 PM

[balmy mauve]

this is the closest thing we got

[balmy mauve]

[sage glade]

thanks

was hoping there was something better but ig this'll do xD

cuz the black friday rerun event only works for rerun skins

and the "optimal" play is to only buy skins that are about to be added to perma pool

[balmy mauve]

@neon peak can you dm me the images so we dont flood the channel

[sage glade]

@balmy mauve both bremerton and independence skins are being rerun so this notice can be changed now

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Skins#Collab-0

[hidden rain]

Well next WAs are U-101, Microlayer Medley and the Hunter one.

[stuck wave]

hello, I found illustlator's confirmation for unknown ships.

[balmy mauve]

great, post proof so we can confirm and add it

[stuck wave]

at first, Z16 and Albion was drawn by Soobrabraterny(I cannot remind spell) and Jarvis

the source is below:

[wraith tendon]

I made it the fk up

[stuck wave]

https://t.bilibili.com/720173553671995417

check out the comment, the author NG_Jie answers Z16 is also his work.

[balmy mauve]

[stuck wave]

I spent for almost months to pursue who drawn Z16, I feel as if i just graduate school

I said "at first", yeah I know another info that is already known on Japanese AL comm. should I share them?

[balmy mauve]

if the en wiki doesn't have this sure

[stuck wave]

okay, those ships has already confirmation by Japanese comms, so I just drop the author’s name and works.

Mkiiiiii33 ：Hunter Meta

it looks like multiple autor's commision. there's source.

https://www.twitter.com/MKiiiiiiMK/status/1584527291631030272

I said I'll not put the source, but I changed my mind.

Shnva: Yamakaze
https://www.pixiv.net/artworks/102835793

Mimoza: Janus

https://twitter.com/96mimo414/status/1583050584491692032?s=61&t=G8xTb09dEkaeyVJhE94HfA

ミモザ (@96mimo414)

次回実装されるジェーナスちゃんのイラストを担当させていただきました〜！よろしくお願いします！

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Twitter · Oct 20, 2022, 11:00 AM

Nishikikope: Wakatsuki

https://twitter.com/nishikikope/status/1590696639953776640

二色こぺ⚡️🐟C101_2日目西地区 "ひ "44b (@nishikikope)

アズールレーンの期間限定海域イベント「赫の涙月　菫の暁風」にて実装された艦船『若月』のキャラクターデザインとスキンイラストを担当しました～！
🐣🐣
#アズールレーン

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Twitter · Nov 10, 2022, 1:23 PM

... and so on (I'll make confirmation sheet with source and drop it again later)

Thanks

[torn heron]

There is an error on the Alabama/Gallery page Minneapolis/Gallery page, specifically that this image https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/File:Bg_2020.02.04_6.png does not include Alabama, but Minneapolis. From left to right depicted are South Dakota, Minneapolis, and Massachusetts. South Dakota has dark braided hair, and Massachusetts has a triangle on her forehead. You can tell the middle character is not Alabama as is claimed because Alabama has black under eye stripes, while Minneapolis has white under eye stripes.

[stuck wave]

thank you, I checked another datas but it looks like no more. Soory for inconvenience and thank you for your addition.

[sage glade]

these warnings can be removed or replaced with confirmed to come back (at least during black friday) https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Skins#Collab-0

[hidden rain]

It's a big update, I figured the pool updates took priority over skins...

[stuck wave]

I gave up on making illustlator correction sheets because there's 2〜3 ships left to tell

I gonna tell you the rest of ships it's still tagged unknown.

[stuck wave]

NG_Jie: Albion source is the same article.

oh, it was the last one

I'll keep searching and tracking about illustrator's info, and when I found new one, I'll share here.

[sick glacier]

did the URL for the wiki change? my favorites are broken

[blissful crypt]

it's been different for quite a while

maybe that old link just expired

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Azur_Lane_Wiki

[sick glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/tanaka-kun-tantrum-angry-mad-furious-gif-8368189

[balmy mauve]

we did change some link formatting iirc, but that was a while ago 🤔

[thin wadi]

yeah that was like, what, half a year, year ago now?

[signal grail]

yeah, but the old link only expired today, I had to edit the bookmark

[jaunty mantle]

Maybe you should have paid attention to being redirected for the past year, and updated your bookmarks

[jaunty mantle]

I had Permanent type redirects set up and removed them two days ago

[azure stone]

isn't mio's aircrafts 3 fighters, 2 DBs, & 3 TBs?

[pure thunder]

it's 2/3/3. so the mlb text is wrong(?)
it goes from 1/1/1 to 2/1/1 to 2/2/2 to 2/3/3

unless i misread again

[hidden rain]

Nope, checked and you are correct.

So... #bug-reports is thataway

[strange mist]

what's with the pruning of wiki team role users

[jaunty mantle]

It was an operational error

[hidden rain]

We got tired of Nagami spreading misinformation

[barren obsidian]

naganami wasnt the only person who lost it

[pure thunder]

😔

[quaint stream]

Wiki Discord server: https://discord.gg/7GHJhVsRtE

[tulip scaffold]

oh can some admin update the channel description? the wiki no longer redirects old links

nice

[strange mist]

what happened?

[wraith tendon]

wiki team role more or less accidentally got deleted

[strange mist]

huh

do i have to ask a mod to get it back then

[half bear]

I know the page is still under construction but wut da SSSS gear doin there

[hidden rain]

No clue what you're talking about, definitely didn't save asap after noticing someone else edited to try and limit conflicts

[oak niche]

is wiki dead?

[hidden rain]

But why do you think so?

[oak niche]

Oh, it must be the old link is broken.

[hidden rain]

^ ?

[oak niche]

yes, it is

[blissful crypt]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/List_of_Torpedo_Bombers

3. Japanese torpedo bombers tend to unload on the closest targets to the centre of the screen and ignore the ones further left or right completely. All other torpedo bombers tend to launch their torpedoes in parallel patterns nea

Ju87d4 too?

[hidden rain]

Since when is that a Japanese bomber?

[balmy mauve]

All "crimson axis" torpedo bombers converge on a single target

all "azur lane" torpedo bombers are parallel

ju87d4 and its prerequisites are crimson axis torpedo bombers and thus also converge if they drop torpedoes

[barren obsidian]

Basically what Sam said

That can also apply to other smaller factions too

This says it’s iris, which is Azur faction, but also shows up under both French factions

Even tho the other is Crimson Axis

[stuck wave]

Some of the Iris torpedo bombers are more confusing. BR.810 is parallel but Levasseur PL.7's "Torpedo-Iris" launches in very unique way. launching same like common torpedo but it converge to the center no matter where enemies stands on.

I think changing the notes likes "Some of the named torpedo tends to ~ such as Torpedo-Sakura and Torpedo-Iron Blood is ~" makes sense.

[maiden latch]

the table on the event page is broken

[tulip scaffold]

wiki version has been upgraded, try a force refresh on your side

[hidden rain]

After a hard refresh they are gone for me too

[tulip scaffold]

extension issues

[half bear]

Agir and Odin gun pages got wiped

[hidden rain]

We're currently looking into the issues with Tabbers.

[graceful prawn]

Hello, the list of heavy cruiser guns page is still empty

[coral vigil]

try it again? it works for me

[graceful prawn]

looks good now

thanks!

[sudden bay]

Believe it was an error when it got updated, attacker bonus should be 20% damage taken reduction rather than dealing 20% more. Iirc prior to update it was right

[balmy mauve]

oh you right about that

[barren obsidian]

Does this help you? Or need better pics?

[balmy mauve]

this should be fine

[hidden rain]

[thin wadi]

[barren obsidian]

[velvet nexus]

Im in D3 of swirling cherry blossom, war archive. The map in the wiki & here is different

[blissful crypt]

It's similar but not exactly rotated 180

[barren obsidian]

oh yeah it is

[velvet nexus]

I thought it was flipped at first, but I didn’t think it was rotated 180 huh

[barren obsidian]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Thebombzen/Safe_To_Scrap_MK_II
for the sake of this, would it need an update on which gear is worth keeping to upgrade in gearlab, now and after the update?

[balmy mauve]

anything that has "...wiki/User:..." is not a wiki main page, thus we don't care about those pages here

if you want updates to a userpage, ask the user who created the page

[winter reef]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/460645783021289472/1050256570665152623/image.png

should be hai chi class instead of hai tien only

also the list of x equipments page has been like this for a while

idk if it's a server side error or on my side using desktop mode on mobile

[barren obsidian]

can you give me the link to check both mobile and desktop

[winter reef]

I'll DM you

they're both the same link

[hidden rain]

Seems to be tabber related, the second row is a different tab (but the tab doesn't change)

[hidden rain]

Is it fixed now?