game-feedback

[hallow burrow]

well, it’s fine, just bad feedback in general imo

[gray patrol]

put those in cards so we can upvote

[fierce sonnet]

theres been nothing but productive additions to the suggestion lol whats wrong

[runic tartan]

[ruby robin]

So we refine it? That's the point of this channel, to improve feedback?

otherwise you just submit a card and be on your way

[fluid grotto]

someone put it in a card

[runic tartan]

I don't think there's any feedback to be had from something that was built on either niche or misunderstandings

[hallow burrow]

yes we’re refining it by pointing out it is based on misinformation

[frigid wagon]

[fluid grotto]

reward for leaderbox, letsgo

[fierce sonnet]

well the guy opted to post the feedback in this channel instead of making a card, so we criticized it

[hallow burrow]

[fierce sonnet]

if the suggestion was simply "make higher rarity equips better" in a simple trello card i wouldve upvoted and continued with my day

[atomic finch]

Chatframe that reset each month for people with aotn?

[hallow burrow]

Aotn too easy, maybe top 10 eos

[frigid wagon]

[atomic finch]

Could be cool I think, not something pay to win or something

[hallow burrow]

yeah i think it could be nice to reward those that try hard and invest a lot of time into game as well

[frigid wagon]

[fierce sonnet]

also, add guild tags besides our usernames pls

[hallow burrow]

yes

adding guild tags makes the idea of being in a guild more homely and recognisable

[hardy kindle]

Resetting would be neat. Like doesn't even have to be for just aotn so people won't complain much. Just give aotn the fanciest one and the rest get a frame based on how high they ranked

[hallow burrow]

yeah that would be pretty cool too, those that got top 10/20 also a different frame maybe?

and all those that reached above captain get a special frame that upgrades the higher you go

[gray patrol]

I'll add to this custom guild icons we can upload

[fluid grotto]

pushing too much luck

guild name/faction would do alr

[gray patrol]

other games have it so

[fluid grotto]

baby step

something like
IGN - (axis/alliance logo) guildname

[gray patrol]

improve friends list and list limit

[fluid grotto]

and this is too risky for global server knowing the community
most game that has this feature had it disabled for global release

[hallow burrow]

yeah people will mald I think

[fluid grotto]

ppl will upload straight up nsfw stuff

[gray patrol]

just preset logos then

[fluid grotto]

that'd work

[hallow burrow]

discord emote as logo

[atomic finch]

With the addition of META ships now, having 50 friends is easily reachable, an increase in the max amount of friends you can add would be very nice, especially for the lazy or low level players that can't or don't want to beat the META ship that's currently in rotation.

[fierce sonnet]

add more levels to guild tech upgrades, many guilds have already reached max levels on all trees and an update is needed

[hallow burrow]

my guild is fully maxed so it lacks progression element atm

[fluid grotto]

they need to overhaul the meta assist listing first, it's so bad that it refreshes everytime you logged out, can't even help friend without telling them first beforehand else it's just gonna get flushed away

[fierce sonnet]

i personally believe more levels should be added to the dock space expansion tree in guild tech

[coral ivy]

With the number of unique ships in game near 600, having guild dock space expansion go upto 50 sounds quite reasonable tbh

[runic tartan]

Guilds def have a lot of room to grow as a feature, both in representation and guild content + benefits

[velvet adder]

Would like to see the return of skill book speedruns in near future, or making it a permanent thing as well

[runic tartan]

Already in #collected-feedback
#collected-feedback message

[atomic finch]

Permanent, but only 5 or something?

[velvet adder]

Thank you, I don't visit that channel at all but yeah

[runic tartan]

Np

[blazing heart]

The issue with skill book quick finish I see is that I think it sort of devalues especially the 4th skill training slot

[cursive horizon]

It's worth noting that even older players who don't know the finer details of why the mechanics or gear is the way it is can still be puzzled when the most suggested weapon for certain classes is a purple gone and not a gold one. You can say "well, Shimakaze is specific case" and sure that's understandable, but it still begs the question why there isn't something of higher rarity, and therefore upgradability, isn't available to her.

As was said earlier, their feedback was perfectly understandable.

[copper bolt]

Adding on to Thorin's point, the event drained so many books for me as a 4 slot user. I can just barely stay level with the current book income whilst utilising my 4 slots but if the event comes back, I will be significantly in the red until I run out. I wouldn't mind having the event back again if they also increased book income as well.

[hardy kindle]

that's just the nature of minmaxing tho. Every game has odd tech like this, it's stranger to change the rarity of a piece of gear or to create a brand new piece of gear just to satisfy the crowd that doesn't like running stuff that isn't gold/rainbow. One can still run twin100 on shimakaze and feel satisfied in being able to run golden gear.

In shimakaze's case especially, it's just as strange to release rainbow gear whose sole purpose is to shoot faster while doing next to no damage

[fluid grotto]

just make UR gun that fire faster and do more dmg

[hardy kindle]

and that's objectively bad feedback since you're asking for something that'd break the game's balance

[cursive horizon]

Fair enough, I'm just saying it's understandable why someone unused to that kinda thing would see it as inherently flawed. A purple variant that could be upgraded to +10 would make sense to someone looking at it from afar.

[hardy kindle]

I get that, but it's just in the nature of minmaxing. If you want to truly minmax they'd also have to make a purple version of the single 120 because "that's technically better for auto"

[cursive horizon]

Before I got better advice from my guild and Gameplay Help, I also thought rarity was better and focused on stuff like Oxy Torps and gold weapons.

[runic tartan]

Flowi did give advice to Ace, Ace decided to ignore

[hardy kindle]

fwiw devs have already shifted away from making terrible gold gear, and that seems to be enough of a correction

Most of the cases where gold/rainbow gear is objectively bad is outdated gear

[cursive horizon]

They probably didn't/couldn't understand and were confused. In any case, I appreciate the further explanation you provided.

[ionic matrix]

As long as there's an option to disable it or not have it show.
I'm not much a fan of clan/guild tags, and my username is on the longer side so it either cuts off the name or just makes it ridiculously long.
So, not opposed to the implementation, but would like it's visibility to be optional.

[cursive horizon]

I'd still like to have the entire chat window vanish if I turn it off. Or at least become a small bar I can tap to reenable should I take leave of my senses. The window is kind of an eyesore when you have no use for it, and I don't enjoy seeing chat on my secretary screen. Of course, what we really need is for the guild chat to not take 10 seconds to load when you're in your actual guild screen.

[past mountain]

So, we have the various CG galleries for ships (archives, comics, etc.) ; Could a similar thing be done to archive the various Sirens we encounter? Maybe less like the archives, where it lists full data stats, but more along the lines of a series of dossiers that describe their abilities and show their character art (full art + chibi)?

[hearty crane]

Or, you know, use said space for secretary dialogue. So I can buy Kashino L2D and SEE her animations... without losing the translation entirely (a very hacksaw sollution)

[blazing heart]

The ability to reposition the text box for voicelines would be nice in general

[velvet adder]

i think we did give all these solutions when the first textbox problems arose

but they just decided it was too much work and made it available to hide

[hearty crane]

And thus I still skip like 75% of the L2D I otherwise might have bought. Oh well, their lazyness my profit I suppose. Its hard to be tempted by a giant textbox...

[indigo pike]

Can we get these loading screens please? These are really pretty and it seems kind of crazy that we don't get them just because there are some fireworks in them...and I have no idea why we don't have the Ulrich one.

[gleaming mist]

CAN WE GET THE USS TEXAS?

[indigo pike]

Not last year, no.

[cursive horizon]

Two of those loading screens I really don’t wanna see, honestly. Why the devil are we still having the loading screen selector discussion 4 years into the game’s life?

[indigo pike]

We got our own and most of the CN/JP screens. We only missed out on I-19 because it specifically said 4th Anniversary

[indigo pike]

Because people do want to see them, and the loading screen problem...well...is still a problem

[cursive horizon]

I’m not saying they can’t, I’m frustrated that we still can’t choose from them ourselves.

[slate monolith]

Mostly it's because they are randomly selected and it's not like it's always the same loading screen every single time though. Which is probably why it might not happen though.

[copper nest]

What

They will still be random? Just from selected pool

[hoary warren]

Lol

[slate monolith]

Yeah, but it's like how are they going to code it so that option is available though, and is it even possible, which is what I'm trying to understand myself.

[copper nest]

They are going to write code implementing it as a game feature 👍
Technology is there
Nothing is impossible
We thought auto search was impossible
But here we are
Believe in yourself!

[indigo pike]

All I'm saying is that in its absence, they could make a bit more sense about situations like this. There's no reason simple fireworks should bar them from being on here, that's rather silly. And I really don't get the Ulrich one.

[primal yew]

What is the point of unlocking META ship if I cannot retire them?

[slate monolith]

I'd rather have it where the METAs and the PR girls don't take up ANY dock space instead, so that way the issue of people with low dock space don't have to complain about this every now and then

[scenic flower]

Nice idea would be to "link" the META ships to their original girls with some kind of "mental resonance" possible, when you could use some resources (maybe the new ones) to rise the stats of completely usless META ship up to a reasonable level. Maybe the host could be somehow upgradable too.
Actually, that could be the variation of retrofitting for META.

[regal elm]

I back the idea that META ships should not be counted towards dock space, they should have their own… space, let's say
All the time you have to leave a space

[scenic flower]

So we must pay for the second dock expansion, right?

[regal elm]

Pay?

No, it should have its own dock or something

[ornate basin]

its a pretty straight forward feedback

[regal elm]

I mean, yeah, a separate dock specifically for META ship (that you don't have to pay) would be nice, since there's not much effort to get them compared to having to roll gacha or grind maps to get standard kansens, per se

[faint hinge]

METAs going into their own META dock makes sense

[scenic flower]

Free dock for META, lol? What is the meaning of the dock at all then?

[regal elm]

...for your standard and PR kansens

[cursive horizon]

I don’t see why anyone would be against the META and possibly PR ships having a separate space exclusively for them to stop from taking up valuable space for regular ships. They’re unique, one of a kind ships that you will never be able to get again in the foreseeable future.

[scenic flower]

It seems you guys don't undestand my logic. This is technically the same as to say "don't consume the space for PRs and META". So what separate dock are you talking about? If it's separate dock, it should have its own space counter, and of course Manjuu won't add it for free. If you want it for free, what is this virtual dock for, again? Just making METAs not consume the space will be enough. Don't come up with starnge ideas like "free separate dock", coz its sounds stupid and has no meaning at all.

Also, separating META and PR from other girls looks like isolation.

[fluid grotto]

it's just +1 dock everytime you unlock said ships, nothing hard to understand

[scenic flower]

[fluid grotto]

but who cares how they will implement it, as long as it's free space

[scenic flower]

No, it must be done elegantly

[fluid grotto]

in a game with amongus references

[slate monolith]

Heck we now need a tag for the META ships since sometimes I have to wade through Collab ships just to find the META in question that I need something done with them.

[regal elm]

One game I play literally gives an equilavent of a META ship its own "dock" without charges, that's why it's possible to add something like that in AL

[scenic flower]

What for?

[regal elm]

Nvm, disregard my feedback. It sounds stupid, apparently

[velvet adder]

META ships are under "Other" for factions

[slate monolith]

Yes, and so are Collab ships too

[velvet adder]

My bad then, don't have any collabs so wouldn't know

[fluid grotto]

it's an alright feedback, just submit it to belfast in #bot-spam

[jolly jacinth]

There’s another game or something I play that does that but for the life of me I can’t remember what it is

I like that idea though.

I’m just gonna lose my freaking mind trying to remember what game it is

[fluid grotto]

my coggies are running out, i think the server heker stole it
compensate pls

but srsly tho been hrs and im still getting this lgbtq pop out any update for the matter?

[hallow burrow]

it would be nice if the game can create stable way to get cog chip income because players who regularly use their oil and spend resources on leveling ships are getting demotivated to do anything really, because it does not add to their sense of completion if characters cannot reach their maximum level of 120. furthermore, gatekeeping an important resource like cog chips creates a vacuum where the game seems to be discouraging people to level ships they want due to this resource bottleneck.

before players jump in and say they still have stashes of over 50k chip, these players either use their oil to sortie max lvl ship, or do not use their oil at all, which make the argument moot as they do not focus on leveling their non 120 ships.

as for solutions: maybe make droprate of cog chip in w13/14 higher and make it an actual source of cog chip rather than the pitiful trickle it is at the moment, can also put cogchips in shops like pvp shop and guild store

as said earlier I and many other players that u might consider “sweaty” or “tryhard” all agree that the cog chip drought is making us lose motivation to sortie, level and play the game in general, so it would be good to make a user-friendly change that makes cog chip more available to everyone

[fierce sonnet]

simple solution can be done by just adding cog chip in more shops like merit and protocore

[hallow burrow]

yes that is also a good solution, making cogchip more available to players in general not only does not affect a “whale gap” in any sense of the word as all currency used to buy them can be non-gems, but also benefits players post oilcap change who want to level up ships rapidly

[fierce sonnet]

its already in the guild store btw but rarely appears

also they can increase the frequency of chip dropping in higher campaign maps

[hallow burrow]

yea low droprate + low amount does nothing to fix problem still sadly

I am a huge proponent of the campaign droprate increases as it also incentivise people to push higher campaign worlds. many player now just stop at w12/13 because they already unlocked best grinding spot 12-4, with no incentive to go for w14 unless they want new orleans or gem

[copper bolt]

Personally I think the main problem was mindset. Before they introduced oilcap and other massive QOL updates, it was quite a long process to level up a ship to 120. As a result, the vast majority of players did not have any cog chip problems unless you really were grinding a lot. I think what the devs intended to do was to let people use lvl 120 ships more often because previously (and ig it still is kind of the case), when you get a ship to 120, they're benched most of the time as you can only use 12-15 ships on a regular stage at any time.

I did mention it at the time when it got introduced that the increased leveling speed meant people would most likely run out of cog chips fast but everyone was dismissing it and said it was fine with arrays being the only problem

¯_(ツ)_/¯

i think adding more daily stage levels would be a better fix

[ornate basin]

chill man, I made my comment because you were stepping over the line of combating feedback for no reason other than "they'll fuck it up so dont even bother"
@regal elm you are fine and your feedback is a good idea

[fierce sonnet]

its evident with the exp changes and how players are rewarded with fleet tech upon lvl120ing ships that the game is pushing you to grind out lvl120s, which contradicts itself with how low chip income is

[copper bolt]

well fleet tech existed before oilcap so?

why do people suddenly care about it as soon as oilcap is introduced, it's a player imposed problem rather than a game one. Fleet tech was in the game for >1 year

[hallow burrow]

idk but i know people who had no coggie even before oilcap

[copper bolt]

yet basically no one was hard grinding for it. And ik, there were players that had cog issues before oilcap. But it was not as widespread of an issue as it is now right?

[fierce sonnet]

i also mentioned the exp changes which made lvl120s much easier to obtain

[hallow burrow]

well the widespread nature of the issue does warrant a solution atm which is what we are discussing

[fierce sonnet]

with how frequent lvl120s can be obtained it doesnt match up with the low rate of chip income

[copper bolt]

maybe the solution is to roll back the xp curve so that it's the same as before

[ornate basin]

yes, I dont think there needs to be a discussion, just ideas

[gray patrol]

it's a great topic for discussion tho

[ornate basin]

because we go back and forth on this topic what feels like multiple times a week

[fierce sonnet]

i mean i dont even see where the discussion is tbh

[ornate basin]

well when you arent getting anywhere, its not a discussion for this channel

[hallow burrow]

discussion was the wrong word then lmfao, as u can see we are jus suggesting solutions

[fierce sonnet]

its evident that the majority of the playerbase believes that the cog chip income rate is way too low compared to how often ships hit lvl120

[hallow burrow]

salty and me were discussing possible solutions to this phenomenon long before

[fierce sonnet]

and the argument for "wrong mentality" doesnt work because the low chip income rate gives players less incentive to play the game

[ornate basin]

try to keep your feedbacks precise and short, a long drawn out conversation will go too far

[hallow burrow]

I don’t see an issue with an elaborate piece of feedback like I sent. if there is an issue would you like to say it out so that i and others can understand?

[fierce sonnet]

if youre gonna think about it that way, then there isnt much point leveling up ships to lvl120 aside from your 27 opsi ships

[gray patrol]

also what is "wrong mentality" anyway this a game ffs you can play however you want

[fierce sonnet]

if i leave a feedback on this channel and someone argues against it, im going to defend my points

[ornate basin]

and my point is no one should be arguing this kind of feedbacks it doesnt seem divided, and qwert is known to combat feedbacks just to get more out of it, which isnt necessary in the slightest

[hallow burrow]

we arent arguing tho? me and salty and kei were just discussing solutions to this and how feasible they may be.

[regal elm]

Right, I'll submit my feedback to Belfast then

[ornate basin]

you are taking my words too literal

[hallow burrow]

maybe you should be literal on the internet more because sarcasm isnt conveyed well 🙂

[fierce sonnet]

if an individual is the problem then why not just remove them from the channel lol

brah made a suggstion, and i expanded on it

we only started to argue back once that person argued against our suggestion

[ornate basin]

whether you know argue has multiple meanings or not isnt in the scope of this channel I'll loop back to my original point, there shouldnt be back and forth going on

[ornate basin]

yes, we'll handle it

[hallow burrow]

can you please explain literally what you mean? trying to ad hominem in this case is not the appropriate way for a moderator to be handling the feedback channel

[ornate basin]

for now, just make your feedbacks

[regal ferry]

then there is only one person thats the problem in this case

[fierce sonnet]

thanks, its been a reoccurring issue that ive brought up before, i hope youll look into it and take proper action against it

[hallow burrow]

yes I agree

[gray patrol]

also the fact that this cogs feedback keeps coming back suggest it's a big deal and the devs should listen to the community

[hallow burrow]

i am very sure players in other servers have this issue too, showing the extent to which the game does not address this issue well

[fierce sonnet]

i believe some amount of debate is healthy for this channel esp if its suggesting improvements to the game, but deliberately dragged out arguments with brick walls should be limited to an extent

especially if the brick wall in question is infamous for antagonizing many suggestions in this channel

[hallow burrow]

yes i am inclined to agree with salty here

[ornate basin]

this channel is allowed debate, but not everything needs debating
if it wasnt allowed debate, this channel would solely be #collected-feedback

[fierce sonnet]

fair enough

[hallow burrow]

well, i think that it is abundantly clear that the issue in the debate lies in the brick wall that salty mentioned

[hallow burrow]

like what tragil said

[ornate basin]

this channel is open to all users
just keep making your feedbacks

[fierce sonnet]

anyways just to reiterate the original suggestion, increase cog chip income rates to match up with the pace of ship leveling, even simple solutions will work such as adding cog chip to more shops and increasing its drop frequency in world/event stages

[regal ferry]

[hallow burrow]

[coral ivy]

Everything grows and evolves, and so does this game.
The game has evolved to the point where oil cap is now a thing and player QoL is being worked upon.
Considering how previously oil was scarce and now isn't due to the game progressing in this direction, same thing with coins and in fact to a much larger extent compared to oil; cog chips which were previously scarce being requested to be made more common by players is very much in line with the direction the game is heading into.

Even the exp curves were relaxed to reach higher levels.

In light of all this, aside from adding some more sources for cog chip acquisition, I think it would even be a good idea to reduce the cost of cog chips to uncap ships by 20-30%

This isn't a fantastical or new idea either. For example, with oil - we get oil cap as well as reworked weekly missions + weekly oil supply pack
With coins its less noticeable but you can see how it's eased up with the coin cost for awakening a ship from 120 > 125 being way less than the previous 20 levels, or with the retrofit cost of Yuudachi Kai which is also significantly less than the other two SR > UR retrofits.

[hallow burrow]

yes thank you zuyi good idea

[regal elm]

@ornate basin I've submitted by feedback. Not sure if it's posted or not.

[copper bolt]

submitted feedback is manually reviewed by mods before it gets posted

[ornate basin]

did not recieve it, mind dming me the submission id?

[regal elm]

Well, it's just ended with "All right, Post it!" Step. No replies after that. Normally I should be getting a reply that says "Your submission has been correctly delivered!" after, so I guess we'll have to wait until I get that reply?

[ornate basin]

she might be hiccuping

[regal elm]

Welp, as long as it's delivered in the end

[fierce sonnet]

i second this

[raw quest]

yes pls

[primal yew]

Can I have a UR French that ignore the manual requirement for all French ship in fleet?

[past ridge]

Anyone else think its about time they up the rewards for commissions just a bit?

Let me at least get some purple plates or something

Could prolly up the coins as well since farming higher worlds has made that a joke.

[gray patrol]

gold plates in comms

[copper bolt]

maybe in the 10 hr oil one? Would make it potentially worthwhile to do again

[hardy kindle]

Make 10h comms great again, yes

There's no real reason to do them now since oil cap leads to better urgent comms than anything the 10h comms can do

[fluid grotto]

increasing coggies income is better than reducing awakening cost imo, save them the hassle of returning exceeded coggies used cus unlike exp it's not something that stored in ship.

[little glacier]

I would like to see new lines for every ship when is oathed. That would make me happy ^^

[blazing heart]

This happens to me all the time, only solution is to start over and go through all the steps again

[coral ivy]

I didn't give an "or" suggestion, i was adding on to what brah and salty had said so your point is kinda moot.

[slender mica]

Since the medal shop was drastically overhauled, would it be possible to overhaul or at least expand the merit shop a bit?

While I suspect this comes as an issue only for a very selected few shikikans, some of us are sitting on a massive pile of merit with very limited options to use them (personally, I'm sitting on about 1 mil points).

The change I'd be in favor for doesn't necessarily need top tier items to be added (like 10k/20k food, or T4 skill books, or cog chips/arrays), but adding 1 or 2 more rows for extra variety with some T1/2/3 skill books, some 1k/2k/3k/5k food, or whatever comes to your mind, would be a nice way to use some of the daily/weekly merit currency we get.

[fluid grotto]

ah fair, didnt backread that far

from what i see it looks like an entirely new feedback cus theres no direct reply to initial feedback

[coral ivy]

Good point, I should've quoted a previous message.
I guess I forgot because a lot of discussion ensued.

[regal elm]

right... well
I'll do that again, I guess

@ornate basin the feedback is in this time!
sorry for the pong again

[inner frost]

Please for the love of something, remove the mask filter from all Boises voice lines in skins where she isn't wearing her mask.. why is this still a problem 2 skins later

[loud axle]

You say this, but Emden is impossible for most people to tell who is who without subtitles

[cursive horizon]

They're right, though. It's very jarring and feels lazy. If they have to re-record those lines then so be it, since all of her alt outfits have no mask.

[hearty crane]

As said, the bottom 2 are just broken (pretty much par the course nowafays). I dont get top 3 either, but my Belfast report on it didn't get accepted nor denied. And no clue if we'll see I-19 one for our 4th anni...

[hearty crane]

The cost of Yuudachi was because they used elites as a base, rather than sr's... which is also where her bug came from since its listed stars where one lower than would be the case for SR. It wasn't some detailed plan... they just screwed up.

[coral ivy]

Doesn't really matter. If they can fuck up so hard on a UR retrofit that they forget the previous ones used 3 bulin/dupes and a lot more gold it's the same as accepting they're fine with lowering cost.
Also that's just one example, coining system for old PR seasons so players can catch up faster is also in line with what I was describing both for better QoL and less coin usage
10 prints costing 3k coins or 15 prints costing 8.25k coins compared to doing a gold D face for 8k which yields much less prints for coins spent.

In the end the conclusion is that we're going towards easier resource procurement for all other kinds of resources, so the same being requested for cog chips makes total sense and the devs should really consider and implement it.

[fluid grotto]

revamp this content as gvg pl0x
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Opposite-Colored#Semiconservative_Replication

[amber dune]

This gamemode looks sick. I would love to see it implemented as a guild vs guild feature (similar to clan battles in other games).

Video in reference:
https://www.bilibili.com/video/av13092229/

[fluid grotto]

yeah abit of revamp it could be like some kind of territory war for guilds

[delicate lance]

then make them give a lot of gold plates

and cog chips

[fluid grotto]

yes, make it rewarding to revive this aspect of the game

[scenic flower]

Devs, please stop giving the weird skills to your DDs! Jervis could be a fresh idea among the DDs, and also the first not-just-waifu HMS supportive destroyer, but you ruined her!
Yellow skill: have 3 HMS ships in your fleet to buff the HMS DDs. WHAT? We have to use 3 HMS DDs for max effect! Where did you see any worth HMS DDs? Leaving alone the fact, that 3 DD setup is hilarious by default.
Blue skill: another limitation! Thanks, that there are CLs, at least. But this time we have to make a tank from Jervis! Are you okaaaay, manjuu? You know, there is w14 and all? I think we have more than enough lame destroyers for casual voyages, while the healer DD could do some useful work and vary our fleet setups, but alas

[hardy kindle]

I'm kinda against it giving too many things. Proper rewards would require proper matchmaking. Otherwise there'll be too much of that "must be lv130+, spend 40 hours per day on AL and have every single piece of gear at +13" bs that guilds do

Now if they implemented some basic form of matchmaking, I'd take it

[fluid grotto]

there's always participant reward

[delicate lance]

or just make use fight each other in same guild if they really againts guild vs guild stuff

[fluid grotto]

why tho , thats the whole point of group pvp, group up to fight other groups

[scenic flower]

You do understand, that for the guild wars, you have to bring a lot of your guildmates together at the same time, right? And your rivals must do the same. While most of the guilds consist of random people from entire planet. They are from different geolocations.
Solve this problem first. After that, ask people, if at least 20% of them want to participate.

[indigo pike]

That's unfortunate. I know last year we had the same issue with broken loading screens and they actually got right on top of it and fixed it. As for the rest of them...are they actually implemented in the other clients? I ask because the only two I see listed in the loading screen section of the wiki are the two that you're saying are broken. The wiki is usually really good about keeping the screens up to date.

[hallow burrow]

can be asynchronous, theres a lot of way around it

[fluid grotto]

give 24 hrs to do the battle easy

accumulate score from members gvg activity for leaderboard

just like guild operation, but instead idle deployment, youre attacking nodes that was set by other guilds, and attacking guild base boss at the end of the road for final scoring.

one example how to do it, could be anything else that fits the global nature of the game

they alr have the system for the guild deployment from this event
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Opposite-Colored#Semiconservative_Replication
guild base boss scoring can just using mechanic from this event
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Air_Raid_Drills_with_Essex

hold it every weekend,so ppl have more time to do it.
saturday for deployment phase, sunday for gvg phase.

[hallow burrow]

yes I agree, its a good suggestion that will increase importance of guild activity

[fluid grotto]

but firstly a baby step, guild tag when?

[hollow sand]

(so people be talking about scrapping metas and stuff to save dock space and all that
my suggestion is to just add a dock space for every meta or pr you get as a way of still showing up in the dock total while also basically not taking up any space)

[scenic flower]

If this is not "online fight", then this is just another fake pvp mode. But well, if you're ok with that, I'm fine as well.

[hallow burrow]

[fluid grotto]

no one said anything about online fight
the old event reference alr posted with footage as well, it's just some form of hybrid pvp/pve, which perfect for gvg imo

just need some tweak to make it better than the older version

[copper bolt]

there's already a trello card for this exact suggestion in #collected-feedback

i'll find it for you

#collected-feedback message

[raw quest]

a dupe trello card for that #collected-feedback message

[copper bolt]

i think it's fine, it's 2 different solutions for similar issues

but they could be combined into 1 which is just "Dont make unretirable ships take up dockspace" or something like that

[hearty crane]

That's because we generally get them from the EN client, and while we may not get certain loading screens or logins, they are still in the files. This is the first time in my memory they simply didn't ship them with the EN client entirely.

And yeah, I don't see the need for a "seperate dock" (how would that even work? Wouldn't it be tiresome to visit an entire different screen for META than select a single filter?), just make PR/META not use a slot. No need to make the same thing, just more complicated.

[loud axle]

I believe the main concern is that PR/Meta's take up a slot with no way of removing said character, Its more of an issue with META's than PR's because Most Meta's fucking suck so god damn much, it makes me wonder why the company are wasting assets + voice actress's time + money pushing them out knowing full well 95% of them are dogshit

[hollow sand]

trello card from 2021

[cursive horizon]

I think the METAs are there because a lot of people are actually interested in them and not the other kind of Meta as much. It also ties into the lore which, despite what some claim, is what plenty of folks are interested in.

I know I mentioned separate dock after someone else made the suggestion, mostly just to show support for the idea of wanting them to not take actual dock space. I know people have asked for bulins to not take space, as well.

[earnest minnow]

can we get the feature to change the bgm of the game

it kinda get old hearing the same track over and over again

[hallow burrow]

use the microphone

[hearty crane]

Of course bulin you can use AND scrap, so I personally don't see the need for those.

[scenic flower]

useless. All the gear music must simply go to customizable playlist. Linking the music to the gear was not smart.

[cursive horizon]

I think the idea is that you're sort of stuck hanging onto Bulins for future events, especially gold ones which are harder to come by, thereby using up more of the precious dock space. Personally, I'm finally to the point where I don't need the cute purple Bulins unless an event is coming but I still need a sizeable number of gold ones, but those of us who've been playing a long time are likely to be in similar situations, perhaps.

[copper nest]

And you can't change music in menus, only in combat but still L

[cursive horizon]

Also, heavy agree with Silence and Akagi that there needs to be a better way, or even one at all, for swapping the music tracks. We have a music gallery which we have to stay in to hear the songs, and it's also woefully lacking in updated music from all the previous events. We've had some awesome battles or boss music that'd be great to be able to play during Operation Siren promoted pawns, for instance, even if we're only hearing it for 30 seconds most of the time.

On a similar note, it's.. really jarring how wildly contradicting the music in Operation Siren gets just exploring the maps and going into battles. Several of the combinations don't even seem to fit well.

[copper bolt]

certain skins change the BGM in the main menu

[fluid grotto]

these kind of stuff gotta be optional, wasted memory space.
just wanna play the game, if i wanna listen to music i'll just go yt or spotify

[cursive horizon]

Even so, for those wanting to hear Azur Lane music it's spotty because there's no single source we can go to for the music. It's scattered about YouTube in various English or Japanese names and uploaded by many different people. I also don't think that a music toggle is going to dramatically increase memory space. (The music's already in the game)

[fluid grotto]

im sure someone out there alr compile some azur lane album, probably more than in game has to offer

[hearty crane]

Both the Music and Art Gallery I expected to allow music/loading screen choice when added. Alas. Still, should be easy to update them to fit that, and expand on themselves too.

And yes, all the music is in the game (even uutawaara or whats it called). The art gallery would allow you to download the screens you want, since loading screens are not in the gamefiles.

[hasty mountain]

I found it pretty interesting when the maid stories had the live2d skins animated, but then the current event just showed roon in the new skin and there was no animation. Was the idea scrapped or just one of those consistency problems?

[velvet grail]

Are there plans to add a sweeping/skip feature in-game? Cuz a lot of my friends quit because grinding the game for half a day everyday is so tiring specially those who have busy jobs... Specially during events since not everyone has so much time even with auto-farming... A lot of the people I asked if they knew AL said they knew and really liked it but the grind is just too much to overpower the good things that they liked about it... I would also ask about disable ship drop feature but I guess that even has less chances of being added...

[void schooner]

So what all would be skipped if a feature like that were to be implemented?

[velvet grail]

Campaign and event nodes that have been triple star cleared?

[copper bolt]

maybe making the stage cost 10% extra oil for the insta skip would be good.

[velvet grail]

And decrease the drop rates of SSR ships

[copper bolt]

that might be too harsh but instead removing oilcap rewards would be better i think?

increasing oil cost by 10% and removing oilcap rewards could be a fair trade

[velvet grail]

I agree...adding a choice for Decreasing oil efficiency for time efficiency will decrease the quitting rate due to lack of grinding time would be good

[copper bolt]

also ig maybe u would have to "prove" a fleet is capable to clear it in order to give xp to the ships (maybe at a decreased rate as well?) or forcing you to use lvl 120 ships so the xp doesn't really matter could be an idea as well

otherwise it'd be abused as a better system to EXP booking to level ships up

[velvet grail]

Or maybe... Lock a fleet that cleared the area and you have to reclear it to change the skipping team

[copper bolt]

could also make it so that your ships do not gain affinity but morale still drains?

dont want someone doing like 100 runs instantly

[velvet grail]

I think converting the exp to exp books but with 30-40% less total exp

[copper bolt]

wouldnt that make the lecture hall more redundant?

or maybe just make the xp go straight into the lecture hall instead?

[velvet grail]

Yeah... Even I agree that affinity should be hard earned

[velvet grail]

That would make more sense... Oh... And affinity items should be added but in fixed quantities... Like in princess connect?

[copper bolt]

affinity items don't exist in AL currently but ig they could be added

[velvet grail]

Maybe the exp should start draining and exp would stop accumulating after continuous skips with 0 affinity... It would also be good for affinities of same ships to be the same

But after oathing, the affinities would be cut off from the other same ships and be reset

[cursive horizon]

I don't know about other ships, but subs definitely could use some form of affinity increase beyond taking them into battle for the last 10 points, or higher if you plan to oath them. It's a hell of a lot more inconvenient to raise their affinity since they have to keep being moved around in order to participate in maps.

[shy gazelle]

I have all subs lvl 120 with 100 affinity (or more in case of my wolfpack). I just sortied them when I farm exp for other ships in 11-1.

[indigo pike]

I see...I don't really like the implications of that much at all

Especially after noticing that at some point the the statement on here that said EN would always get the same content as JP was removed from either the welcome channel or one of the FAQ channels, I don't recall which.

[topaz otter]

Resetting meowfficer talents is probably one of the worst systems in the game and that's generous in my opinion.
Here's an improvement idea:

• remove the cooldown, or reduce it to 4h - I still have no idea why it's in there other than to annoy the hell out of you when you roll into way worse talents and suddenly your fleet doesn't have that oomph in damage anymore
• let us pay extra to keep one talent from a previous reroll in addition to base talents, at the cost of 1 talent point less on the next reroll - should make it way less annoying to build good cats for that endgame content. Price can be even 250%, idc this would make it even desirable to use up all your points before rerolling for a chance of that one missing piece you need.

Honestly even making it so you outright don't shoot yourself in the foot any other way you can think of should be fine as well. ATM you spend your 12k and not only roll worse, you have to wait 24 hours to try and fix it, and it snowballs further as it repeats. Pls fix

[thorny stump]

Ok let this azur lane game be a good one this jun holidays and let us stop with the playing around and tease.
Release FDG and all the other pr4 ships fate simulation and call it the best game ever.

[regal ferry]

Pr4 fsv will come with pr5 release

[hearty crane]

I assume they meant they want the DR's to get FS5 too... which they probably wont yet

[scenic flower]

We got PR3 drake FS before PR2 FDG. Devs must be scared to make FDG even stronger 😂

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[topaz otter]

With relation to this and the recent announcements about the new "augment" system. It's clear you aren't willing to listen to jackshit. I don't see a reason to continue playing this game if it's layers upon layers of RNG (that doesn't even feel good) to get the best possible fleet (or close to it).

[fluid grotto]

it's not even here yet

[topaz otter]

doesn't matter if the outlook of it is known and it mimics another shit system.

[fluid grotto]

your feedback based on speculation

[topaz otter]

what part of official chinese announcement translation do you consider 'speculation'?

[delicate lance]

it's in CN news post

[fluid grotto]

yeah doesnt make the system bad, at least not yet

[delicate lance]

yeah that skill buff looks interesting but please don't add another RNG to the game
cats are already painful

[fluid grotto]

dont even know how the reroll mechanic works yet

[delicate lance]

The value of enhanced stats includes fixed and random (with a range). Random values can be reset randomly by doing stats modification. The fixed value is only affected by enhancement and upgrade.

[fluid grotto]

how rare the mat is?
what is the % to get certain stat?
do we get safety net to keep the better stat?

yeah it's still pretty vague

[topaz otter]

Don't expect any safety nets if cats (or anything, really) doesn't have safety nets.

[delicate lance]

https://weibo.com/5770760941/LwBcpeUcn

[fluid grotto]

well thats just your speculation at this point

[topaz otter]

Anyway, I already said what I wanted to. I don't see why I would continue playing if the interaction with the cat system, and possibly this new "augment" system (which is the only meaningful interaction at my point, by the way, since everything else is maxed) feels terrible because of outright downgrading your fleet performance if you do interact with it and makes me feel bad for spending money on this game.

[fluid grotto]

i mean i'll be here qq-ing too if the actual patch is shit later on
but crying now is pointless

[raw quest]

play at your own pace innit

[fluid grotto]

take your time

[hearty crane]

The translation of the medal shop change also made it sound confusing as heck, while when it released... it was the simplest thing imaginable.

(Also it's a bit ironic to complain about RNG in a GATCHA game. While, yes, cats took it too far, complaining about RNG at all is I don't see anything in that explenation that gives me reason to believe its even remotely like cats )

[inner frost]

What's ironic about complaining about RNG in a gacha game? Just because RNG elements are fundamental in gacha games doesn't mean you can't call out shit RNG systems (and cats being one of them frankly).
There is such a thing as good RNG systems and terrible ones, and terrible ones don't have to exist.

[hearty crane]

We don't know it's implementation. Just finding it ironic to complain about a RNG mechanic in Gacha.

[violet spear]

Wait till the Update the Devs did Great work with Azur Lane

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[copper nest]

For this

[lucid creek]

its the same for some of the muse ships as well

[cursive horizon]

This goes for outfits in general, but I wish Saratoga's oath gown had a couple more expressions.

[glad flower]

Eau de Barbecue yuudachi retrofit event rerun or in the prototype shop when?

[viral furnace]

I suggest that if only a "Guild" tab is opened in chat, messages are sent there automatically, as now it still sends them to the world

[hollow sand]

remove the /50 for stuff that doesnt refresh

(or whatever the number is for the item)

[rugged wharf]

The meowficcers are a PAIN to do and haven't gotten a update for ages. We need a better rerolling system for it

We're going to get RNG gear more with the melee, I just hope it won't be as bad are meowficcers too

[delicate lance]

the new Augment module is nice features. hopefully EN patch notes will actually explain what it is and which ship actually netting the unique one

[ionic matrix]

I'd love to see a slider implemented for tech boxes when you open them. Right now it's either 1 at a time or 10 at a time. But what if I have an odd number and want to open say 17 at once? If we had a slider attached to it we could open up as many as we want save for running out of depot space.

[cursive horizon]

Yes, being able to choose a number instead of the two fixed values will satisfy my OCD which likes to see round numbers, and not XX4 for instance. If I'm looking for something from my purples and I wanna open, say... 38, that'd be great. Instead of doing 8 manually.

[copper bolt]

META boss training dummy would be nice

[hasty mountain]

Meta sync points change on patch notes seems confusing, still not sure what is being changed

[ruby echo]

Ah glad I'm not the only one who thinks that the augment system is going to be terrible. Hell, I haven't even worried about meowfficers. Literally whatever ones I got first I just kept. Couldn't even tell you what their skills are. You don't even need them to clear content. They're genuinely worthless from what I've seen unless you're ultra hardcore min/max 100% going for big flex damage numbers or something.

How about instead we get some useful features like being able to use our gray weapon upgrade parts to craft blue, and blue to purple. Or being able to craft gold/rainbow tech boxes.

[copper nest]

You don't do meta raids one day you can do them next day and do current day raids too (4 raids in total)
But seems like you have to collect 200 coordinates on day 1 so

Day 1: collect 200 coordinates, don't summon raid, don't do raid
Day 2: do 2 raids from yesterday, collect another 200 coordinates, do 2 raids

[hollow sand]

Is Terri skin news coming?

[loud axle]

Thinking about that, No news had came out about that

strange.

[hollow sand]

[true widget]

!submit Personally I think Bismarck should have better skills, like with her second skill. Like its a nice skill however the main thing from it is that it increases iron blood carriers damage by 20% (when maxed) . Now this is not bad but Iron blood carriers are bad when compared to other nations so overall a bad skill. Then there's the third skill which does buff the whole fleet but only for critical rate, it should increase basic stats like Queen Elizabeth and Nagato. Then from that same skill it increases Tirpitz damage by 40%. Which seems nice but Tirpitz is also not a great ship. I am always interested in war and I am an Iron Blood fan but the fact that Bismarck who was known as one of the greatest battleships of all time, is now a ship I hardly use because there are better options for Iron Blood and other nations. So overall I ask that you make Bismarck better, not saying to make her overpowered or broken but simply to live up to her name a ship that you could use for late-late game stuff, Thanks. P.S keep up the good work with the game I love it

[cursive horizon]

@true widget You need to just use "!submit" by itself first in #bot-spam and then you'll get a DM from Belfast.

[runic tartan]

Bismarck is already good for what she does and is meant to do, you just need to utilise properly

[fluid grotto]

[true widget]

Thanks for that

[copper bolt]

"- you can rerolls the "RNG" value of the stats.(the new stats rolled WILL BE GREATER then previous one)" - sounds good from the datamine, not really "RNG" anymore though

[inner frost]

From what I've seen it just feels like RNG for the sake of RNG. I really don't know why it even has to be RNG at this point when enhancing alone would have been enough for this.

[copper bolt]

it's not even RNG if you read the datamine

[inner frost]

Please turn of the ping notify when replying. And unless all gears start on the same stat levels then yeah, no rng, which even begs to question as to why you need to "reroll" anything to begin with.

[copper bolt]

the base value is RNG but everyone can max enhance within a few "rolls" which are just enhances

[inner frost]

So, RNG for the sake of RNG. When it could just have been at max stats and then you enhance. Like you do with current gears. Pointless system imo.

[copper bolt]

well you dont have to roll it if u dont want to since it's only 5 FP/TRP or 10 for the unique gear. It's not that impactful

it's not like meowfficer talent rng which is good at least

[inner frost]

so.. I don't have to reroll because it's not impactful enough.. but there's a system for me to reroll.. if I don't have to reroll wouldn't it just be better to.. just give the equip at max stats so I can enhance it? Yeah.. I stand by my point that this system is unneeded and doesn't fill any real purpose other than being RNG for the sake of RNG and I will leave my feedback as that: A pointless system that doesn't need to be in the game as it doesn't fill any purpose. Every new "mechanic" doesn't need a completely new system.

[copper bolt]

"the new stats rolled WILL BE GREATER then previous one" even though it's "rerolling", it's basically a guaranteed enhance system though no?

the only "RNG" is how many times you will have to "reroll" the stat to get it to max since the base "RNG" value is random

unless you're saying it should always start at 0 and everyone enhance it as normal which ig fair enough, everyone would end up using more materials on avg to enhance one of these new gears

the "RNG" element just means u have a chance of having to spend less materials to enhance it to max

[fluid grotto]

yeah just give me everything maxed, like UR takes so make plates too, make it auto +13 pls

[raw quest]

play at your own pace

[hearty crane]

If its the exact same how will EN reach its quota of calling the game dead. But yeah, let this be a lesson not not to instantly cry about p2w and cats 2.0 next time, but who am I kidding, we'll definitely do that again like calling all UR underpowered and shit till they are discovered to be OP. And hey, we can atleast USE the stuff, unlike AA and MG UR prints.

[waxen lance]

So finally we got thr worst feature of genshin as an update to azurlane

Amazing
cant wait for more rng stuff and grindy stuff on this completely not grindy and rng game

[waxen lance]

Wich is still BS

This whole system has litterally no reason to exist

[waxen lance]

Because no one want extra grind or enchantment 0.2

What purpose does this litterally even serve

Wow more power to p2p players lets goo

[copper bolt]

fair enough, i still think it's not that bad though because you're guaranteed an upgrade if you "reroll"

[waxen lance]

Whats even its purpose tough

Let us have 130 lvl ships or extra enchantment on gold purple and UR rarity gear

This is like adding a guranteed stat roll on cats and increasing their lvl cap
Litterally no one cares or wants it

[copper bolt]

I'm just saying it's not as bad as cats because there's basically 99% less RNG

you can save some materials if u get lucky with the "RNG" that's it

[hearty crane]

Then ignore it There's not even a way to pay for it so that P2W always was a ridicilous argument.

[copper bolt]

but fair enough if u dont think the system is not worth implementing

[waxen lance]

Yeah but doesng change the fact that its just another grind fest

Last things any azurlane players wants to do is extra grind

[copper bolt]

the only gameplay is grind to be fair

[hearty crane]

Yeah, like level 130 or +15 ISN'T grind, right? 🤦‍♂️

[waxen lance]

Did they confirm that no packs about them will be released?

And its still just stupid
Neither genshin artifact rng is P2P but its still grindy af wich no one wants it

You dont make your game better by adding grind no natter the size of it

[waxen lance]

Better than this atleast

[raw quest]

you can ignore it, some people ignore cats and opsi

||play at your own pace||

[waxen lance]

Yeah true but it doesnt change the fact that its really just a pointless addition

Whats next enchantment 0.3 or smth

[raw quest]

lol

[waxen lance]

XD

[hearty crane]

Pointless AND P2P powercreep...

[loud axle]

Imagine complaining about a system you have yet to touch and have not experienced

Fuckin EN i swear.

The system is more than fine that we got this

Litterally cant lose stats, Equipment buff skills of botes

[waxen lance]

The whole system is litterally explained

[waxen lance]

No one cares no one wants extra grind

Litterally EN
trying to defend more grnd lmao

[fallow harbor]

Wheres rhe same energy for fleet tech? Cats?

So minimal of a boost you can ignore yet so riled up about it?

[loud axle]

Fleet tech is not an issue, Cats need a overhaul

[waxen lance]

Fleet tech isnt even an issue

[fluid grotto]

i like the new gears, thanks manjuu

[waxen lance]

Cats just need tk be better

[loud axle]

As do I

[waxen lance]

This is basically enchantment 0.2

Whatever ill just wait for apologems thanks to howmuch backlash it got

[loud axle]

Then you're blind. Botes are litterally jumping tiers because of some items

[waxen lance]

Im talking about new system

[fallow harbor]

For something that doesnt even give rhat big of a boost, hell i'd understand the pov if the gears gave actual useful stats for bbs and cvs like rld

[fluid grotto]

hope more gears will out in the future so fleet building is not as boring

[loud axle]

Yes and the system is fine

[fallow harbor]

^

[loud axle]

As someone who has started it on CN and JP. they made the system really fair

[waxen lance]

Is the max bonus even explained?
Highly doubt its just +5

[waxen lance]

It can be fair

Is it grind it is grind

Whole aspect of it is just pointless

[hearty crane]

Its DAILIES. Literally PUSH A BUTTON once a week after completing it once. Wow, much grind, such effort.

[loud axle]

Weeklies*

[fallow harbor]

Weeklies thats just sleeping at tbat point just clear the stage and sleep then wake up next week

Ecen if its more than +5... its still like such a minimal boost.

[waxen lance]

Still its infact grind

[loud axle]

And? We've needed more things to do for a long time

[fluid grotto]

its a grindy game, so i dont see any problem

[waxen lance]

Damn EN seriously loves grind lmao

[waxen lance]

Yay cant wait to get extra statbonuses on my maxed out acc

[loud axle]

This is no where near other bad games

Or korean games.

[fallow harbor]

This is just like at the very bottom of the barrel grindy

[waxen lance]

Yes but its a likntless adition

All it will do is just confuse nes players in fiture thats it

[fluid grotto]

baby mode artifact

[fallow harbor]

And again MINIMAL AS HELL stat boosts
You're complaining for something you wont even realistically notice

[waxen lance]

Is the cap to this sta bonuses given?

[loud axle]

Not my problem people cant take a minute or less to read

[fallow harbor]

Oh wow I grinded now my NJ has 5 more fp surely that will improve her to the point I notice

[hearty crane]

Tell me how to GRIND a mission thats available twice a week and has a skip button. How can you even DO that?

[waxen lance]

Not my problem of i and majority does not like any sort of grinding even on smallest scale

[loud axle]

Unique equipment buff skills

[hardy kindle]

so...skip it?

[waxen lance]

Yeah same argument lmao

[fallow harbor]

Pressing buttons per week sure is hard

[waxen lance]

So pointless addition?

[hardy kindle]

People really act like the game will delete your account if you skip a minor part of it

[ornate basin]

[loud axle]

You're litterally complaining about nothing.
This is litterally free stats and aoe clears

[hardy kindle]

The game doesn't need to make sure each feature appeals to the entire playerbase.
An f2p player could argue that skins are a pointless addition to the game because they'd never buy skins.

[ornate basin]

this conversation could be had in #al-general there is nothing constructive about it given how long its been going on

[loud axle]

here's the cap.

[waxen lance]

Its grind and it sucks

And if we are able to just skip it and be perfectly fine and if the extra stats are absolutely minimal

Then what even os the purpose of this new system

Ah yes maxed out players really wanted to do something on this game so lets give them +5 stat bonuses to grind for!

[fallow harbor]

This may seem crazy to you but there are different parrs of the playerbases who wanna minmax, dont and play casually.

[fluid grotto]

25fp on dd is pretty good dho

[fallow harbor]

Alot of that part still exists, you can skip it you can skip all of it it still isnt a pointless addition.

Theres a part that will enjoy it, just cause you dont wanna do it doesnt mean others do.

[copper nest]

🤔 isn't it kinda pay to win progress faster because there are more materials in paid battlepass track 😵‍💫

[waxen lance]

Whatever pointless argument what majority of ghe player base thinks is already apparent on twitter so not even a wroth to talk about it

[gray patrol]

pretty sure your argument about this being such a grind is just pepega

[waxen lance]

So does people that DONT want to minimax but want to upgrade their units

[fluid grotto]

plates and coggies also there for long time so

[loud axle]

Here's actual feedback. The unique equipment should have more of an impact like Laffey's and Belfasts. Prinz Oigen, Whatever sub and Arizona should have more impact tbh. I do like this system

[fallow harbor]

Then... upgrade your units?

[loud axle]

And I hope the next batch has more impactful UE gear

[copper nest]

yeah lmao

[waxen lance]

Do you get what im saying

[hardy kindle]

I..I still don't see the flaw in making small things that aren't for the majority of the playerbase. I doubt the majority of the playerbase clears EX mode, doesn't mean they should just remove it for shits and giggles

[copper nest]

I though they will use unique gears for stuff like belfast, arizona, etc. to buff them to "competitive" levels or something oh well

[fluid grotto]

here feedback, add rld gear for backline cus thats what matter most for adjusment.

[waxen lance]

So making small things that pisses of majority of the fanbase is... good?

[hardy kindle]

I don't see the point of an argument that just says "ree this one element isn't for me and I'm not at all forced to do it so devs must remove it from the game"

[hearty crane]

I mean everyone can use the small buffs too. I doubt people would skip on Lffey's pillow "cause casual".

[waxen lance]

Why making it sound like im the only person that says this when twitter broke about it?

[fluid grotto]

majority where

[hardy kindle]

I never said I agree with twitter either tho, I'm calling them dumb too

[loud axle]

Laffey litterally went from T2 to T1 because of this item. I like things like this

[hallow burrow]

[loud axle]

Items like this is a good gameplay addition because it buffs ships without directly touching ships, causing headaches

[hallow burrow]

@gray patrol

[hearty crane]

Twitter said it was cats 2.0, Azur Lane now P2W. Twitter's dumb.

[gray patrol]

people just don't wanna play man but they still want everything lol

[copper nest]

that's good then! they should lift up some more "obsolete" units like this, good change

[waxen lance]

So some people making feedback saying they dont want this addition because its pretty much pointless and extra grind is hurtful is not feedback anymore?

[loud axle]

the best comparison is UE stuff from Princess Connect where it upgrades and changes skills for the better

[hallow burrow]

so true!

[fallow harbor]

This would matter if the items made the skills scale with the levels after +10 and the stat boosts go over to the point it actually matters but like....
None of this is present other than the dd gear

[waxen lance]

Azurlane p2w part is stupid but cats 0.2 is pretty much true

[hallow burrow]

are you using your brain

[waxen lance]

Yeah it doesn't matter

So whole reason for it is just extra grind that basically adds nothing?

[regal ferry]

extra grind isnt hurtful, wtf. just because there are alot of casuals, doesnt mean hardcore players dont deserve content

[copper bolt]

it's not cats 2.0 because the RNG is so minimal. It's guaranteed stat boosts

[fluid grotto]

i can see ppl malding if the stat is random, but its fixed and the rng part is just slight minmaxing purposes. everyone should be happy

[hallow burrow]

cats take 2 years usually to roll stuff, but this module can be finished in like 1 month

[waxen lance]

Insulting phase starting

[hallow burrow]

[fallow harbor]

Some people want to take the extra mile to min max, if its pointless why are you malding so much about it?

[loud axle]

they are random, but you can never lose stats, only gain stats, which is nice

[waxen lance]

But its cats 0.2 because addition is the smallest you could ge

[hardy kindle]

I also don't see the point of acting like twitter is a voice for the majority of the playerbase. If someone doesn't have an issue with the system, they wouldn't whine about it on twitter. If someone has an issue, they'd whine about it on twitter. While I see it as your perspective on the game, I don't see it as constructive criticism when all the criticism from you so far boils down to "I don't like grind, people who were angry enough about it on twitter to actually argue about it don't like grind. So it should be removed"

[hallow burrow]

u can lose the extra stats

[copper bolt]

every time you "reroll" one of the augments, you are guaranteed an upgrade to the max value (fixed)
your starting value for the RNG element is random so if you have good RNG, you get to spend less resources to max it

[waxen lance]

SOME wants it MAJORITY doesnt
How does feedbacks work?

[hallow burrow]

well, rumi point is kind of the key here

[loud axle]

No you cant

[fluid grotto]

im talking core stat, like hammer will always give trp and acc, u just need to reroll for slight amount increase

[hallow burrow]

you can because u can have a low roll, technically losing the extra stats

[waxen lance]

Look

This whole thing could have no rng at all

Im not even on rng point anymore

Im saying that this whole addition is just stupid

[fallow harbor]

So far I have only seen like a few people care about this this much? Realistically majority of the playerbase would just not care at all?

[runic tartan]

Umm, p sure I don't see a majority here, either case use !submit

[hardy kindle]

Again, this "majority" is only considering people on twitter that were annoyed enough to complain about it. Why would anyone that's fine with the addition complain about it on twitter? And how can you confirm that this twitter crowd you're referring to is the "majority"

[copper bolt]

feedback is your own personal opinion, you can voice it and noone should block you for doing it. All i was trying to do was explain what you might have misunderstood about the RNG elements of it initially. That was all

[hallow burrow]

any tryhard cares about this

[waxen lance]

So twitter=toxic people so their points dont count?

[regal ferry]

yes

[fallow harbor]

Where did you... get this conclusion from.

[ornate basin]

I'll say it again and start handing out warns from this message after

this conversation could be had in al-general there is nothing constructive about it given how long its been going on

[hardy kindle]

Can you actually read what I'm saying instead of giving a kneejerk reaction?
I'm saying that twitter alone isn't a representative audience
sorry kawaa, didn't see your message in time

[waxen lance]

Litterally any social media platform that has mention of this update has people hating on it

Please give me a single place that people actually like this update

[fallow harbor]

Heres my thoughts, I like this new addition.

[rain thorn]

as if you ever believe ANYTHING what the worst social platform on the planet says

[hearty crane]

If the issue is "grind", again, how does one grind a weekly with max 2 runs... with a skip button 98% uses. Where is this grind?

[runic tartan]

Right here, quite a few people

[loud axle]

Again, proper feedback aside, This is a good system and the way they implemented it is actually good compared to other dogshit systems. Prop manjuu

[waxen lance]

And so does here wher people hated on it on past arguments?

[regal ferry]

ppl that are happy with the new stuff most likely wont voice their opinion, cuz its going to be implemented lmao

[ornate basin]

anyways, because you guys cant seem to have normal debate
leave your feedback in a single thought out message and click out

[gray patrol]

here's the thing.. even if it's only a small amount of people cares about this there's no point for you to be mad you are not forced to use this feature at all if you don't want and most importantly this game is MOSTLY PVE

[outer plume]

this feature is cool and all, but are we ever gonna get a "move textbox" option instead of the "remove textbox"

[waxen lance]

???

[hallow burrow]

why are my messages getting deleted

[ornate basin]

im deleting you guys' random ass messages, and I will mute you if you continue

[hallow burrow]

how is that random? its a reply to kei’s statement

[fluid grotto]

all the sources for reroling are in already existed place too, nothing will change other than extra one click each week. hope they will add more source later on

[hollow sand]

(how about we wait till after we have actually tried out the new stuff before we start trying to cancel it)

[hallow burrow]

random would be saying like “fdg is op” in this discussion

[rain thorn]

agreed

[ornate basin]

anyways, because you guys cant seem to have normal debate
leave your feedback in a single thought out message and click out
all of this is pointless, therefore pointless messages will be deleted from here on out

or I just purge your messages

[hearty crane]

(Prefarably before you guys rerun Dreamwakers. My Kashino skin purchase depends on it)

[loud axle]

Event shops will also start carrying these mats starting next event.

Which is a good call

[fluid grotto]

now with all these new stuff added can we have c7 or very hard arbiter plz manjoo

lvl 20 meta fight

[fallow harbor]

Auto search for sos when

[outer plume]

yea, i held out buying kashinos and VV's skins cause of this.. and i cant use u47's new skin as a secretary without her getting censored.. been too long

[fluid grotto]

add coggies too for drop while youre at it

[outer plume]

yup, end the cog chip drought

[fallow harbor]

Auto search is a year old now and you have implemented it everywhere but sos and its frustrating

[runic tartan]

25 feels nicer as a number

[gray patrol]

EX level arbiter but make the reward only be gear skins

[hallow burrow]

true, someone needs to up previous messages about cogchips

thats the more pressing issue atm

[outer plume]

like, add coggies to medal shops

opsi drops, idk.. just more cogs

[hallow burrow]

there a few well thought out messages above

[fluid grotto]

the premium gear skin for leaderboard maybe, i want more of the moon satelite

[hallow burrow]

moon satellite

[fluid grotto]

or wtv that is on my shinano

looks cool

[hallow burrow]

its moon or planets iirc

[copper nest]

Butterfly wings?

Yeah aux gear skins are awesome hope to see more of them and not only in battlepass

[gray patrol]

new contents where you can control subs would be cool

[fluid grotto]

want more of the blackhole shell too but only one guarantee from battle pass

[regal ferry]

that would be dope

[fluid grotto]

add it for leaderboard, ppl should be ok for cosmetic reward

[hallow burrow]

yeah, blackhole shell is dope

[fluid grotto]

its the big moon on top shipfu head

[scarlet snow]

Game feedback? make oil regen faster or dont give aussies 8 hr comms during active hours

[fallow harbor]

I wish you guys could sell gear skin boxes that arent from event in munitions, like you can choose from every events skin boxes up until the event that is archived
Something like the ship selection from guild shop but the gear skins will still be randomized even after you choose, or let us choose if you're kind enough.

[fluid grotto]

give more weekly oil plz

[hallow burrow]

timezone specific feedback not as good cuz can’t expect game to work on different server time

[hearty crane]

Cant even use my current oil, needs more oilsinks than food

[gray patrol]

just hope research queue helps

[runic tartan]

Just sleep during the day, problem solved Timezone issues can't be solved sadly

[fluid grotto]

wdym im buying oil for event now cus i dont have enough

need more freebies

[hallow burrow]

true, oil shortage is real

[scarlet snow]

make it less about timezone and more about time ingame, if youre online for 6 hours straight, then add 8 hour comms then, make comms based on playtime/day

[rain thorn]

I run out of oil way too fast, especially when I'm doing events and levelling ships

just wish there are more oil recovery options available

[gray patrol]

average player should be able to burn the average oil income unless casual refusing to use other ships

aka just doesn't farm at all

[hallow burrow]

yea i burn through daily oil income in like 1-2 hours

[fluid grotto]

curry always good if you dont play much

[regal ferry]

same

[rain thorn]

I stopped playing once for 2 years, and my oil somehow peaked at 20k (8k cap)

then stopped playing again for 6 months and peaked 10k, guess the only good oil recovery is by naturally not playing

[runic tartan]

Would make entire idea not work tbh, if you play a lot already you'll get the same comms as night comms in the regular ones, if you play a lot you get urgent comms. I can't see making night comms into a playtime thing reasonable personally, esp with smth like 6h online time

[loud axle]

You know, Im glad about this melee system not being aids.

[rain thorn]

i see the melees aiding to the tanks

[loud axle]

It was a concern people had, but once it came it out, it was fine. Manjuu seems to know what they are doing

[rain thorn]

that much I can tell

[gray patrol]

yes this time at least

[hallow burrow]

Melee aids to the pvp experience as well if people care about it

[gray patrol]

cats is just a disaster

[waxen lance]

The update adds an new way of increasing stats wich is extremely minimal and uses a new item to do so wich is also given easily from weeklies

The problem is that its basically an extremely small and worthless buff to your fleet making this new addition basically unneeded almost like a different system we already have wich is cats

Its so worthless that they could have just not made this at all and just increased enchantment limits per rarity or added something like lvl 130 so people actually had something to look up for while leveling their units or litterally just not added this

And main problem isnt even this systems existence its also that many systems already suffer hard from not being relevant like Cats and Subs these needs and overhaul but we are here getting yet another forgettable addition to stats/team

TLDR:
When stuff like subs cats and opsi is fairly skipped by most people adding an yet another one skippable buff when these systems seriously need an overhaul is not great

I think this addition being "not thar relevant anyways" is not a pro bur a rather a con

[rain thorn]

oh jesus I knew he was gonna type a fucken essay

[copper nest]

just make "night" comms available 24/7, reset them every server reset, every timezone satisfied 👍
of course keep 4 per day no need to mention it but 😐

[rain thorn]

🤦‍♂️

[waxen lance]

What

[hallow burrow]

u gonna get warned bro @rain thorn dont make irrelevant comments

[waxen lance]

^

[fluid grotto]

just submit your feedback to belfast and see how it goes, from what i see here ppl is happy enough with the update, further discussion is going nowhere

[rain thorn]

whatever

[rain thorn]

this

[gray patrol]

the thing is

this enhancement tthing is tied to the melee mechanics

[waxen lance]

This is feedback channel so i can just post it here too

Also most of the people didnt like it shown by Twitter and youtube videos about the update

Whatever lets just end this argument the Feedback syndrome is hard to deal with

[fluid grotto]

this is for discussion and looks like you dont have it your way so just give it up and go straight to belfast

you can see how majority of this server will take it

[waxen lance]

I want to post it here?

Why does people take this feedback as an insult to theirserves lmao just ignore it then

[copper bolt]

your feedback is clear and there's nothing wrong with it

[waxen lance]

There has been countless arguments upabove before i even started anout the same thing

Whatever

This isnt feedback related

[fluid grotto]

yeah ppl alr replied to your feedback and discussion was done

[regal ferry]

nobody taking it as an insult, they counter argue

[hearty crane]

As Euro I approve of this sollution

[copper bolt]

originally your point on rng was a bit wrong which was why i was trying to explain it to you

[scarlet snow]

uhh, unless you missed channel name, its 'feedback' i dont see discussion listed

[fierce sonnet]

youve shared your feedback, people responded to it. next step would be for u to submit it to bot and see how the rest of the server feels about it with the upvote system

[scarlet snow]

anyway, we need more Meowfficers to be added

[fluid grotto]

in case you missed pin, you should read it

[ornate basin]

discussion is allowed here
but if your idea of discussion is having casual conversation or sitting here waiting for people to add onto it in hopes of arguing back with them
its not allowed

it must be constructive

[waxen lance]

I agree on that now after checking

Still tough dont feel like this update is relevant

Its basically just yet another subs and cats sytems if we got an cats and subs overhaul to make them more relevant this update would become better by result without changing anything or removing it from the game

[scarlet snow]

Also, itd be nice to see more events being Archived/past events ships being added to build pools/shops

[gray patrol]

submit it to belfap and see how the majority thinks

[copper bolt]

👍 your thoughts are yours alone, just because some people may disagree, that shouldn't stop you from saying what you think.

like personally I think the addition is fine, but i dont have to necessarily have the same view as you on the topic

[fluid grotto]

👉 #bot-spam and submit

[hearty crane]

I seriously doubt people would object to sub, cat or ops improvements. But that doesn't mean we should not get any new systems ever.
I mean we're also getting like a rogue-like (lite?) later too, so...

[waxen lance]

We are getting a rouge like?

[waxen lance]

Also this^

[outer plume]

would be great if the gear lab was to be updated again.. UR AA and Gun parts would be great if they weren't so useless right now.

also maybe minor factions could be added to gear lab too?

[waxen lance]

I dont want to? Can you stop replying with that every second

We can also talk about feedback here

[hearty crane]

And Fleet Tech

[scarlet snow]

this tbh, and yeah, I agree with gear lab update

[waxen lance]

I would love this as an update too

[fallow harbor]

457 after pr5 addition in gear lab would be nice.

[scarlet snow]

for feedback and suggestions, nowhere does it state youre forced to submit your ideas

[sharp yarrow]

Prob just ranting

[waxen lance]

Where does it indicate i HAVE to? I would like to see it

Its litterally stated that we can TALK about feeback ideas

[fluid grotto]

yeah and id argue the update is useful, since there no more to discuss the next step is to 👉 #bot-spam

[ornate basin]

you are not forced to submit ideas
this channel is for voicing opinions

[waxen lance]

Thanks^

[scarlet snow]

see what kawa said

[ornate basin]

if you guys have literally nothing else to talk about how about you 👉 get out of the channel

[waxen lance]

???

[ornate basin]

dont fall for their bait please literallt just move on at this point

[fluid grotto]

i do have tho, but it purged by the same argument all over again

[gray patrol]

how is that bait

are you serious

[ornate basin]

are you making a feedback?

[fluid grotto]

i did

[ornate basin]

no? alright then you dont need to be telling users they shouldnt be voicing opinions in this channel without submitting to bot

[fluid grotto]

was in the middle of discussing it

[outer plume]

also while on the topic of minor factions, another thing i'd personally like implemented is minor faction fleet tech (like the main four with their rewards)

and their medals, like the ones we have for the main four for levelling 12/24 ships

minor faction love please

[fluid grotto]

so argueing the same think over and over is ok?

[gray patrol]

I can see bias

[fluid grotto]

literally said yourself its going nowhere

[ornate basin]

it is not, this is why I have mentioned multiple times to drop your feedback and move on because you guys argue in circles

[fluid grotto]

so

[rain thorn]

speaking of minor factions, SSR/UR Empery ship?

[fluid grotto]

my feedback about weapon skins

[jolly jacinth]

This channel is for feedback and comments about how others feedback can be improved. Nothing else.

[ornate basin]

if I see it again, you'll be muted

[hallow burrow]

then you should ask kyaru to stop arguing in feedback and arguing the same thing

[jolly jacinth]

If kawa wasn’t clear enough, maybe I will be. Move on.

[fierce sonnet]

its clear that the discussion is going nowhere, he is simply suggesting that the person send their feedback to the bot so people can vote on it

[hallow burrow]

^ what salty said

[fluid grotto]

what, me?

just wanna give feedback about weapon skins, man

[ornate basin]

ruu, you have my explicit permission to literally continue making your feedback

[waxen lance]

I was already discussing with someone else by the time

[scarlet snow]

i agree on this, faction points for minor factions would give them the buff they need like the main 4

[copper nest]

minor factions for gear lab and fleet tech 🙏

[fluid grotto]

the order of msg is confusing

[waxen lance]

I hope northern parliment gets one

[fluid grotto]

with all the deleted post

[scarlet snow]

and this, we need PR2 and minor factions added to Gear lab when PR5 releases

[waxen lance]

If next PR came with gear labs of minor factuons that would been amazing

[fierce sonnet]

i have an idea, add those battle pass skins to merit shop too

[fluid grotto]

what was it again

[waxen lance]

That would kill the purpose of it tough

[hallow burrow]

yes, incentivise actually playing pvp with cosmetics. wholeheartedly agree

[scenic flower]

If no vodka/pizza ships in PR5, I'll be pissed off.

[regal ferry]

yeah, pvp doesnt get enough love

[loud axle]

Litterally no. because it devalue's people who spent money for the skin.
If anything PVP needed a rework years ago

[fierce sonnet]

youre saying the only purpose of those skins is to promote the sale of battle pass?

[hallow burrow]

true, people actively disincentivised from trying it

[regal ferry]

[waxen lance]

I think a NP ship will come there because all minor factions except NP and Chinese ones got it

[loud axle]

Say it ain't so!
Yes obv.

[waxen lance]

Yes obv

[fierce sonnet]

then it doesnt have to be the battle pass skins. add new custom skins

something to reward active players and ppl with overflowing shop currency

[waxen lance]

Battlepass almost sells only because of the skins

[fluid grotto]

yep

[waxen lance]

But i do agree

[fluid grotto]

and that the premium weapon skin

its so limited even if youre paying

[fierce sonnet]

also yall dont have to ping with every reply

[fluid grotto]

i have 3 bb but only get one of it, thats not pog

put it somewhere since its just cosmetic

[fierce sonnet]

yeah i mostly want it there so i can have more of it

[fluid grotto]

leaderboard still a freeland to work on

[hearty crane]

Yes, it's the only reason people buy the battlepass.

[fierce sonnet]

the butterfly and moon aux skins look nice, too bad theres only a few of them

[waxen lance]

Ehh weapon skins arent even that much of a problem

I have ALOT of weapon skins despite not even trying to get them so its fair to say there are more than we need

[fluid grotto]

maybe put some in there as weekly achuevement

[fierce sonnet]

my brother in christ please stop pinging me in replies

[waxen lance]

True

[waxen lance]

You can close pings on settings

People will ping you to talk about what you said so idk what you expect

[hallow burrow]

make provide actual cosmetic rewards for leaderboard

[scarlet snow]

itd be a nice feature to have the wishing well added full time, but its for event ships only from events over a year ago, 2 cubes, 1500 coins, same drop chance as heavy/special pool

[fluid grotto]

yeah then make the skins accessable, not 3 piece + 2 random

[waxen lance]

Wishing well seeing needs be a forever addition

Seriously*

[acoustic helm]

kind of deafeats the purpose of limited events...

[loud axle]

If anything, after experiencing the new player experience on CN, I feel like the new player experience on JP/EN is very gimped. It would be nice if other servers adopted the CN new player experience so that early game isnt too much of a slog and get players in the mid game sooner

[fierce sonnet]

add cosmetic rewards for leaderboards position, it will motivate players to play more competitively

[hallow burrow]

like not providing actual rewards for top ranks is kinda weird considering that you have these rankings in the game

[waxen lance]

Whole purpose of limiteds events...
Is for the limited ships?

[fluid grotto]

regular pool lost its meaning

[acoustic helm]

[outer plume]

the idea of adding these as a reward for doing pvp, or just adding them to merit is an amazing idea 100%

those skins are dope af

[scarlet snow]

events that get added to WA, or havent yet, something like that

[hallow burrow]

top 10 eos pvp special skin?

[scarlet snow]

like the Collab ships, theyll never be rerun

[hearty crane]

I mean people buy the pass for the shipskin, not the aux skins, so I don't think making them freely available is going to upset anyone.

[fluid grotto]

and its a rate up, make it permanent makes it not rate up anymore

[hallow burrow]

I buy for the aux skins

as well as the rewards

[loud axle]

Here's the problem and why they should never do that.
People pay for the battlepass for these skins. Doing that actively makes manjuu lose money as players would just wait for the skin to come to the pvp shop instead of buying the bp

[fluid grotto]

yeah put in gem shop, idc
i want the moons

[waxen lance]

Yeah but aux skins arent that cared really

[hallow burrow]

true

[fierce sonnet]

what do you mean everyone loves the aux skins

[gray patrol]

I still see a lot of potential for pvp , guilds , leaderboard etc. hopefully the devs figure out something here

[fluid grotto]

the butterfly looks good

[iron pumice]

dunno what the conversation is about rn but ägir l2d got a little update and i couldn't be happier. exactly what i wanted, looks incredible, cant wait to see it myself after maint

[waxen lance]

Guilds and cats seriously need an overhaul

[loud axle]

Personally I have not seen the update. Can you link me that?

[waxen lance]

It got an update?

[scarlet snow]

Maybe for gear skins, make a gear skin shop tab where you can buy any box from a selected event for, idk, 5k coins, and if you want a specific skin for collection/customization purposes, make it 7k gold

[waxen lance]

Fixed the hand gesture?

Hopefully

[loud axle]

Yes it got updated to be less jank. Lets hope its not a bisco situation where the L2D needed 3-4 patches back to back to fix it.

[fierce sonnet]

id easily pay 50k coins for one of those sick battlepass skins

[iron pumice]

im not sure how acceptable it is in terms of server rules, but i can shoot yall with a link in priv!

[outer plume]

yea please, id like a look

[waxen lance]

I just want its hand gesture to be fixed

[fluid grotto]

id pay too, add it in shiranui shop

[waxen lance]

I would like to see!

[coarse vessel]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/918308972572839966/921859910680076318/39552c4fb00431d_130130.gif

[fierce sonnet]

i just want my entire fleet to have butterfly wings man, it looks so clean

[fluid grotto]

maybe add black dragon for nj too

[waxen lance]

YES THEY FIXED THE HAND GESTURE!

[iron pumice]

in the best way possible!

[waxen lance]

Now it doesnt have that hand gesture as default because it looked really weird

Now i can finally buy agirs skin

Its special animation got even better too :D

[fluid grotto]

i like agir hand gesture, want more like that

more like above my msg too

[loud axle]

You know what, They actually fixed the skin decently while remaining true to the degen nature. Good shit manjuu.

[waxen lance]

Yeah it gives a nice energy but it being the default hand position made her look a bit weird

They seriously improved it now

[regal ferry]

same

[waxen lance]

Yes!

[iron pumice]

another proof that devs never fail! and if they do, its gonna get fixed... most likely. tysm manjuu!

[outer plume]

thats a great fix! might buy it now

[fluid grotto]

manjoo did it again

[waxen lance]

I wonder if theyll make shinano and NJs skins l2d in future that would be a nice touch despite being unlikely

NJs skin is such a bop that it deserves it

Well it could be hard because of NJs huge... thing being needed to be animated

[iron pumice]

nj's skin is the only skin that i really, really, really want to see in l2d. it just has so much l2d potential, its kinda a shame manjuus original idea wasnt a l2d

nj is really popular now, imagine how popular she could be then..

[outer plume]

i am a little disappointed that nj and shina didnt get l2ds.. their skins are really nice too

[velvet adder]

Where my little bataan new skins? Heretics

[ornate basin]

we dont take suggestions for skins

[fluid grotto]

what about my weapon skins feedback?

[loud axle]

Shima has a l2d.

[outer plume]

shina

[hearty crane]

Shinano they mean, though IMO her skin was too similar to her original.

[fluid grotto]

[ornate basin]

do you have anything else to do?

[fluid grotto]

is my weapon skins feedback ok?

[ornate basin]

I'll be honest ruu, I scrolled up and didnt find anything about it I imagine its fine though

[fluid grotto]

yeah not sure if its in feedback teritory

[runic tartan]

Iirc it's adding the gear skins to pvp merit shop

[hallow burrow]

I think it’s good feedback

[fluid grotto]

thatd be good

[ornate basin]

yes thats fine, something like "make a gear skin but a manjuu riding idk a motorcycle" wouldnt be allowed

[delicate lance]

we need more access to gear skin yes

[fierce sonnet]

maybe you should submit it to the bot so people can vote on it @fluid grotto

[hallow burrow]

[fluid grotto]

but manjuu alr did those thing

[hearty crane]

Well, post it to belfast and see what the community thinks
(I'd upvote it. As said, I don't think people really buy the $10 pass exclusively for gearskins that it'll make an uproar or destroys Manjuu's income)

[velvet adder]

hellcat plane skin is a must

[fluid grotto]

will do, bro 👍

to 👉 #bot-spam i go

[ornate basin]

you dont need to do a flashy exit

thanks for letting us know though

[fluid grotto]

im setting an example, when a discussion reached a conclusion then its time to submit them to belfast

[runic tartan]

Best of luck

[ornate basin]

its not necessary never do it again thanks (making the random monologue that is)

[loud axle]

The pvp shop could be reworked to encourage people to actually use PVP instead of the shop being worthless 99% of the time. All of the other shops in game are practical to an extent except for the pvp shop which should be modernized to the current state of AL

[fluid grotto]

i think its good manner

[trail elk]

Id like merit shop to get an identical rework as medal exchange had but make it thru season instead of a whole month.

[fierce sonnet]

theyre making good progress on it by adding archived ships purchasable with merits, but i think they should change that feature to where we can pick the ship we want similar to guild and medal shop, instead of rotating every 24h

[loud axle]

Lets show a current example. Bullins? Yes. Purins? Yes. Some archivable botes? Yes.

[fierce sonnet]

i remember i had to wait close to a month for south dakota in the shop, that was before the addition of more ships

[loud axle]

But you should not be having trash shit like pink and blue boxes in the pool

[gray patrol]

gear skin? yes

[fierce sonnet]

yeah blue and grey tec boxes are pretty much irrelevant, would be cool if they added rainbow boxes in there instead

[loud axle]

The way the medal shop was done, should be the standard ish for the pvp shop

[gray patrol]

if not then gear skin as leaderboard reward

[scarlet snow]

what about the thing i said with a gear skin tab in shop?

[gray patrol]

EX leaderboard reward more cogs

[coarse vessel]

GvG it and reward the top guild with limited ships

[loud axle]

A perfect example of a shop that shows everything in its rotation + has items that players want/need

[gray patrol]

oh wait yeah gvg better put cogs

[loud axle]

If PVP shop could be retroactively changed to be more like this, people would pvp more

[hallow burrow]

gvg put coggie and gold plate

[gray patrol]

make it still give half rewards if you lose tho

[ornate basin]

mind clarifying and adding onto this instead of trying to use gay in a negative way

[hallow burrow]

true

[fluid grotto]

adding rld to new module stuff will change pvp abit

[gray patrol]

?

[fierce sonnet]

the way pvp mechanics are implemented it gives unfair advantages mostly to the attacker

[gray patrol]

ok this pisses me off

[hallow burrow]

Kei just leave it

[fluid grotto]

[ornate basin]

if you cant use the channel correctly, its time to not use the channel

[gray patrol]

nice way to say I can't give feedback

[ornate basin]

maybe try following the rules

[jolly jacinth]

We can and do remove people’s right to use this channel if they prove they don’t know how to do so.

[fluid grotto]

why my belfast submission not added yet

[ornate basin]

because it hasnt arrived yet

[fluid grotto]

think the bot broken, no comfirmation more than 5 mnts

[loud axle]

it does stuff in batches to prevent overwork

[fluid grotto]

yeah but usually it still give response

[ornate basin]

appearantly shes been snoozing with feedback submissions because whenever people say "okay submitted" she takes like 10 minutes to actually give it to us
if it doesnt arrive in hour, let us know in #discord-feedback

[fluid grotto]

ah ok

[ornate basin]

so we can get bot dev to look at it

[fluid grotto]

ok

[hearty crane]

Also the bot got like a 50% chance to break down recently. If it doesn't give the "Your submission has been correctly delivered!" message, you need to restart from scratch 😦

[fluid grotto]

ah i dont get that msg

dev should look at it

[fluid grotto]

k still no response for bot

[deep sorrel]

Ironblood fleet tech has 50% higher point requirements and upgrade cost and time than the other factions that have fleet tech. Back when IB only had 4 levels, it was fine, but now that the max level is 9, the 50% increase that was untouched makes the last 3 levels both highly demanding on points and ridiculously expensive, while the stat bonuses at max level are only roughly the same magnitude as the other factions. It should be scaled down to the other factions to make it more accessible.

[copper bolt]

it's because all Ironblood ships give 2x the normal tech points compared to other nations

best solution is to introduce more IB ships and reset the fleet tech given back to the standard for all other nations

e.g. New jersey gives 128 total fleet technology,
Vanguard gives 128 total fleet tech

Whereas FdG gives 256 (128x2)
AND UvH gives 256 (128x2)

[hearty crane]

Can we get (the option to) the old Lecture Hall XP Display back, now I need to do MORE math.

[copper nest]

can't really see what exactly are they doing in crafting ui, can't click on skill names 😐 referring to wiki not cool but wiki cool

[fierce ember]

just gonna say the the concept behind "augments" or whatever you call it is pretty good,but with how unsubstantial upgrade is,seems more fitting for just a patch

[dapper hatch]

the augment modules already upgraded at craft is a nice QOL that I want for regular gear crafting

[stiff kayak]

Didn't thought I'd have readdress my post so soon again.
Could we please get at least something that reassambles a QA that looks over a updated game client before it goes life to check if it at least optically fits? They don't even need to understand the language. You can see it if lines and letters intersect with each other.

[past ridge]

Is NJ supposed to have the same sp touch line in her oath skin as the post oath?

[copper nest]

yeah it's literally "play your own game, for 5 minutes at least"

[hearty crane]

(provided you're talking about the XP in the lecture hall... if not, I got no clue)

[hearty crane]

That's more of a #bug-reports no? (Let's see if this hotfix fixed it)

[faint dawn]

There doesn't appear to be a way (other than out of game wikis) to know what an augment module does before you craft it. For example, Laffey's Huggy Pillow. All it tells me is "Wargod of Solomon+". I don't know what that means. The game should tell me what that means BEFORE I spend resources on it.

[raw quest]

just wait for now, wiki is just slow

[hearty crane]

[loud axle]

did you click on the item?

on CN, it tells me exactly what it does

when I click on it

it tells me It gives laffey a 10% heal every fight, a slow self debuff for about 8 seconds, but after the 8, alot of FP and rl

Or do you mean before you craft the item

[raw quest]

before

[dull halo]

So why is there still no inspect button for the l2ds? kinda annoying seeing the textbox over everything :p

[faint dawn]

Right. Would you send me $10 before I tell you what you're getting?

[loud axle]

You know what, you're actually right on this. Kinda odd they don't tell people the effects before crafting

[faint dawn]

Yeah that's my gripe, so far the only datamines I see are in languages I can't read so I've got no clue what I'm paying for

[loud axle]

The datamines have the information in english

from the recent datamine

red is to highlight the new effect.

[faint dawn]

Yeah I managed to find it

[jaunty vigil]

Augment module core in crafting is listed as required/available instead of available/required like every other upgrade menu

[winter hearth]

I'm really disappointed that animations of Aegir's skin are removed. Because it was the skin I bought mostly to have them. So it means I spend my money and buy the skin with horny animations and now I get them cutted out without being asked and without getting compensation. This is is really the disrespect for the people who bought that skin and will buy one in the future

[loud axle]

They are not removed

they were adjusted

[winter hearth]

Completely

The another one with hands I haven't seen them in secretary animations

So they are near to completely removed

[loud axle]

No its not

[winter hearth]

And now you can see that some animations are working strange because of this

[loud axle]

Bro did you test the skins through? neither were removed

Headpat for finger animations

[winter hearth]

I did

[loud axle]

And around the manjuu for the other animations

[winter hearth]

So only one animation while I bought the skin where this animation is all the time?

[loud axle]

<_< its in the skin animation set

[winter hearth]

Yeah. Sorry. I haven't seen the animation by login which became better and now animation by hadpat is hornier because of face and contrast to no gesture.

[clever crater]

The worst part about the change to agir is that there was no mention in the patch notes of any adjustment. Stealth edits are unacceptable and do not set a good precedent going forward

[winter hearth]

Yes. Maybe it would be good to write about changes because it's really disappointing if you don't know that animations were changed

[loud axle]

Here's the issue

CN AND JP documented these changes

En did not

[clever crater]

Players cannot be expected to check patch notes for every region just in case they miss adding info from one region to the next. Yostar failed in that regard

[loud axle]

This has been an ongoing problem for years

DOUBT things will change no matter how much we beg them to go into more details.

[clever crater]

True all we can do is complain here and via email when it does occur and hope they get better. Hopefully intern kun will do something about it

[loud axle]

Intern kun left for AK ages ago

or Revive witch

[indigo holly]

THANK YOU DEVS FOR FIXING ÄGIR'S WEIRD ASS HAND POSITIONS IN THE L2D BLESS

[marble bay]

They make it better, try touch agir l2d head 😭

Never stop amaze me, good job dev

😭

[rain thorn]

Can the requirement of being at a certain commander level to enter a stage be removed

I just hate having to grind 10 commander lvls just so i can get to the next world

[hollow sand]

So someone forgot to let you be able to check what augment skills do before you craft the item

[weary pier]

please add agir's hand gesture back when she's idle i've been baited

[fierce sonnet]

I am once again asking for the ability to disable ship art from appearing whenever they launch an airstrike or a volley. It’s been noticeably worse with new jerseys oath skin where I can quite literally see nothing when she fires her guns

[cursive horizon]

I’m glad they changed her hand gesture, it looked so unnatural before.

[bold bay]

I think you can turn off the background in the skin

[fierce sonnet]

ive done that already, it doesnt work for her

[fluid grotto]

idk why the stairs added for her salvo

[jolly jacinth]

Yeah, that’s a thing I hate. Even base Jean Bart art is way too big. I understand the original idea behind it but it definitely should be something you can hide

Other games for example have options to either always show, never show, or show once per day (which is my favorite)

[fluid grotto]

and the top right of nj oath skin during salvo is like awkwardly cropped, so pixelated

top right to mid*

[hearty crane]

Thanks for fixing the loading screens and atleast not withold the fireworks anymore (even if somehow my report was sent to limbo)

[charred matrix]

stealthchanging L2Ds is a dangerous precedent

people should be eligible for refunds in such cases

[copper bolt]

The information given between cn/jp/en patch notes should be the same rather than having bits omitted in the en patch notes. Even if there are some grammar mistakes, it should still be there rather than having nothing at all.

[loud axle]

Its more of EN not documenting the change, and less stealth

[hearty crane]

It still be pretty bad if you buy a €12 skin for something, then that thing gets removed. I would definitely also opt for refund of my Cheshire skin when they decided to replace the summer BG with broken white. It looks so bad 😦

And no matter if the report got closed as "intended change" I will NEVER believe its not a bug, much like Murm's boobtails.

[cursive horizon]

That line still baffles me. Especially since she clearly has her back to your for the most part, it's pretty clear you're not touching her chest. Maybe the tails were on her back, like weird wings? (either way it should be addressed)

[hearty crane]

Her suit with the tails is clearly displayed in the back of the skin to see

[barren roost]

About the newly introduced "special gear" system - was it made just that someone would be able to say "Hey! We put new stuff in AL! More stuff - more better"? Because right now it's even less use than the meowficcers.

[viscid cave]

It says operation supply coins but ask for special item tokens. This always was a problem but still never get changed. I don't waant to waste hard to get special item tokens when it says I have to give supply coins. It's missleading and you can only open to see what it exactly want when you accept it.

[barren roost]

Also, while I'm at it - the classroom update isn't really an update. Its a downgrade. It used to show the total experience points a skill would have after using up a book. Now it shows it as A+B, where A is the current xp points, B is xp points from the book, AND YOU, THE PLAYER, DO THE MATH! Like, are you people even real? Who was it that saw it in their fever dream that this would be a good idea?

[hearty crane]

Although, yes, they should fix that, an easy to remember rule is loggers always require tokens (also yeah, hate on new classroom display aswell).

[fluid grotto]

module are usable anywhere and meowficer arent

[viscid cave]

I know and never accept it until i get enough but it's still asking for supply coins when it's actually tokens. It's not that hard I think to at least let us see the mission details before we accept the mission.

[viscid cave]

Augment gears are gives stats like aux gear so it's like a third aux gear. Meowficcers give little unusable stat boost even when they are high level. Don't compare it to them and deffinitelly not call it useless. Watch the stats. It's a better boost for people who don't care about the meowficcer thing because I guess there probably are people who can use them but I don't see how they are useful. These new gears are goves boosts like aux gears and that's good.

[barren roost]

I'd be willing to partially agree that main fleet modules are, indeed, usable (mostly BB ones), but vanguard's? No chance in hell. Vanguard modules dont even respond to enemy being close or anything at all, going off exactly on a timer. The stat boosts are negligible anyway, apart from Hit boost for BB

[fluid grotto]

lmao 25 fp for dd is huge

[barren roost]

Yeah, huge. Lets be real tho, does it account for much in, for instance, Arbiter battle?

[fluid grotto]

of course, put it on you gunboat dd like yuudachi/anshan/changchun, thats like 20% boost on their fp

[jolly jacinth]

It’s definitely a substantial stat boost no matter what type of augment you’re using, considering it’s a totally free slot

I do think the melee attacks should be used during ramming too, instead of just kinda like auto torpedos

Or atleast give them their own button so manual can use them how they want

[barren roost]

And you get -maybe- 1% more dmg to Arbiter besause of that. Maybe is the keyword here. All I want to know is - what was the point if it doesnt really bring anything new (1 slash in 18 seconds? Pfft)

[fluid grotto]

wdym 1%, have you tried those ship?, they easily doing on par if not better dps than current UR/DR cb

[barren roost]

And what does it change even then, if the majority of dmg is still dealt by BB/CV 1st, then torpedoes 2nd? Those are the most reliable sources. The difference the stats boosts on vanguard make are inside margin of error

[fluid grotto]

it changes your overall dps

[barren roost]

Ok, bro. I'm not going to waste your time anymore

[fluid grotto]

when ur dds doing like 130k dps thats alr impactful enough to add up to ur overall dps

let say meta fight

where also cats are unusable

[runic tartan]

Bye, have a great time. Maybe you can use time saved proving how useless these additional stats are

[barren roost]

Again. Those 130k. How much of that would be done entirely by DD guns?

60-70k?

Meanwhile your whole backline will be in 600k+ not breaking a sweat

Add subs - another 60k at least

[fluid grotto]

yeah no shit backline doing more in boss battle
doesnt change the fact that vanguard also contribute on dps

and the initial statement was its not as usable as cat, which is wrong

[runic tartan]

I can't wait to call my subs in meta fights

[barren roost]

An Shan has 169 fp on lvl116. What is an extra 25fp to her? Dmg modifier is 1 + FP/100. That adds up 10% to her gun dps. But she also got missiles, so her total dps increase is less. Total team damage would be maybe 1-2% higher if 3 DDs were used. 1-2% is a margin of error when there's instability due to crit damage from backline.

[fluid grotto]

and your second statement was module is not doing much for vanguard which id argue not the case since dd really lacking on fp sources, adding an essentially third aux to buffs fp by 25, which is a big chunk btw, really helps them regardless

[barren roost]

Really helps them what? Not die?

[fluid grotto]

it's not only for the top tier too, but dd in general

how fp tied to not died

[gray patrol]

I'm just thankful it's not anywhere near as bad as cats

[runic tartan]

Time to remove fleet tech too as stats are useless

[fluid grotto]

[barren roost]

Fleet tech is less of a fraud than these modules

I appreciate extra 22 hit on my BBs

[gray patrol]

I don't quite get what you mean by it having less use than cats but hey if you have any idea how to improve or balance it then feel free to suggest it

[fluid grotto]

its free stats with no effort, how is it a fraud

[barren roost]

First of all, I never even cared if there would be any stat boosts from those modules or not

[fluid grotto]

dont even need to farm them cus event gives enough mats to craft plenty

if you dont care why complaining then

[barren roost]

My beef is with vanguard's modules attack

[hearty crane]

Wasn't your whole argument "not enough powercreep to warrant adding" though?

[hallow burrow]

yes because you should

[fluid grotto]

[hallow burrow]

extra 22 hit is extremely helpful in campaign

[full wyvern]

guess intel report is also a fraud considering it only adds 20 FP at +10

[gray patrol]

vanguards get pretty decent boost rn tho and I believe it will get better when they start releasing better modules

[runic tartan]

All gear should just have stats removed since stats are fraudulent

[hallow burrow]

also your point about vanguard gun is kind of moot because gun based vanguard like an shan can do 180-190k on meta fight

[barren roost]

Yeah, yeah. Keep laughing

[fluid grotto]

well the argument changed over time, at first module is unusable, now its good for backline

[hallow burrow]

it show how important stats is

[barren roost]

Please show me exactly where I said "Backline modules unusable"

[runic tartan]

[hallow burrow]

^

[fluid grotto]

oh was about to reply to that

then it changed to what fleur reply