game-feedback

[noble python]

should have just been free

[slate monolith]

Wait, when did Kashino end up in the back line?

[velvet adder]

kashino in main fleet? yo, seems like i missed something there

just make the change in DDG's free

[hearty crane]

"Like Kashino"... what?

Yes, they are 2 seperate ship(type)s.

[eternal bronze]

German DDs carrying a miniature version of V2 when

[hasty mountain]

Turns out I misremembered putting kashino on main fleet, I was sure there was a ship that did that and kashino seemed like a logical choice since she would be more or less dead weight in whichever fleet she was

Well there you go part 2 of the feedback, make both ddg and the aux ships assignable to both fleets

[noble python]

just give aux ships a off fleet buff

[normal vine]

the Anshan's retrofit is at least historical (even if it didn't happen until the 70s)

[eternal bronze]

who needs accurate historical things when there are missile ships fighiting against naval gun ships

now give missiles to Z class destroyers

[eternal bronze]

also FRITZ-X guided anti naval bombs when?

these were the bombs who sank Battleship Roma of Littorio Class

[somber cairn]

give missiles to vauquelin-class then

[fluid grotto]

UR ryusei

[velvet adder]

yes and add to gear lab

[somber cairn]

please allow torpedo gearskins to apply to missiles, or make missile gearskins

please add universal gold plates to the voucher shop, maybe like 30 available to buy for 100 vouchers each?

[velvet adder]

add gold plates anywhere at all

make the guild shop refreshable multiple times

[somber cairn]

yeah that i mention voucher shop tho bc it could really use more useful stuff

ive only done opsi for 3 months so far and already have 16.7k excess vouchers lying around. i dont see High efficiency plans or coins as worth.

[velvet adder]

yeah voucher shop has like nothing in it

i like high efficiency at least

but yeah coins are 100% not worth unless ur a pepeg

[north wave]

because all of these things are not actually on warships

while the An Shans had missiles

hell, the germans in the latest event make a POINT about how all of their fancy V1s and V2s are land-based only

[wooden swallow]

More coggies pl0x

[north wave]

get em from the core shop

[velvet adder]

[wooden swallow]

Even more coggies pl0x

[velvet adder]

ur ryuusei wouldn't make sense in azur lane

but the b8a mokusei in the other hand...

[somber cairn]

super more coggies pl0x

[fluid grotto]

anything as long it's UR version of ryusei, but mokusei was never built means gonna be research gears

and they will need a pr ijn cv to go with the gear, looking at wargaming list of ijn cv, theres none left to be added to AL

[velvet adder]

member must be a mention or valid user id.

[copper bolt]

coins are worth since there is so much stuff to spend coins on still lol

though ig it depends on how you play the g ame

[velvet adder]

make strongholds appear ontop of EVERYTHING

why is a stronghold hidden UNDER A HIDDEN?

isnt it supposed to be yknow HIDDEN?

why is it ontop

[noble python]

smh just give us some sort of stronghold coordinate every week then ping to the actual stronghold

Makes finding where it is so much simpler

[velvet adder]

make it so guild shop has infinite refreshes, im limited by currency income anyway

let me spend it

[copper bolt]

wouldn't that be busted considering you have gold plates guaranteed every time? Or do you think removing the guaranteed gold plates and making them RNG after the first refresh would be fair? Since idk about other people but I have a huge surplus of guild currency because the income outpaces the rate i can feasibly spend it on relevant items in the guild shop

[velvet adder]

nah i think gold plates are too rare anyway

why should we be struggling and be beggars for gold plates

we mathed it out earlier and u can +13 like one gear a month or something dumb

the gold plate grind is just dumb

even if i spent all my guild currency id only get like 1000 plates which is like 4 rainbow +13s

[fluid grotto]

too broken

[velvet adder]

can you make this auto, guildies are lazy

and it screws the whole rest of the guild

[wheat yoke]

Well, it would be nice the guild isn't quite a bit hefty to navigate.
It's not bad but why do I need to click a bit too much for just a an auto sortie lol

[velvet adder]

yeah its really damn annoying to do, plus you have to come back multiple times to it

cant i just deploy a "guild commission fleet" and this fleet always gets deployed on missions?

its a cool feature if you look at it from the start, but it does get old very very fast

old enough that 80% of the guild literally STOP doing it entirely

[fluid grotto]

gvg time attack

[hearty crane]

Seems most of your issues can be resolved by getting a better guild.

[velvet adder]

just get a better guild 4head

silly me its not that the guild mechanics are repetitive and have little reward, its that everyone in the guild who stopped doing it arent good enough

its like doing a commission but you get nothing

and at the end of a really tedious line you get a handful of gold pity plates

and the boss is same every time you do it

[hearty crane]

Which is more than guilds should even do but hey... Guilds are already better for gold parts than OPS... make OPS even more useless amiright?

[velvet adder]

they should just remove the whole line and just add the boss instead and it be a "monthly boss" where if your guild reaches several thresholds then you get an amount of gold plates and guild currency

like the current bristol boss

[fluid grotto]

gvg time attack with leaderboard reward

[somber cairn]

thats definitely not true lol i get more gold plates from opsi

[velvet adder]

opsi doesnt even give enough imo

why are gold plates so rare? like i dont get it

[fierce ember]

on top of giving 10 per 3 days guild shop actually allows choose which one you want,which is even funnier considering opsi was supposed to be the main source while giving less and not letting you choose which

[somber cairn]

true id like to get more gold plates

[somber cairn]

normal arbiter should be able to be killed like 4 times a month, that'll fix the disparity as it drops "universal" gold plates

[velvet adder]

when they were added i thought theyd just be dropped like purple plates, oh was i wrong

[fierce ember]

just replace random plates with universal in the shop instead of that loop,probably easiest fix

[velvet adder]

would be cool if you didnt even have to select plates and they just "subbed in" if you needed them

from your storage

[somber cairn]

true combine them into a single gold plate that works on all gear

[ionic zinc]

I wish Erebus or Terror got a META at some point. It’s the only way I can see either character (or BMs as a whole) being revamped, or have any relevance outside of farming.

[violet galleon]

I’m curious. When will we get Tone as a construction build/map drop? We got Chikuma, so why not Tone as well?

[copper bolt]

iirc, 60% of total plate income comes from opsi and 40% from guildshop/guild expeditions. The ratio is probably more like 65-70% now with the introduction of the monthly boss

[copper bolt]

nice idea, like if u didn't have enough, it'd ask "Convert x general plates to y?" if u had enough generals?

[hearty crane]

Yeah and now compare how much effort OPS is compared to just Guild stuff.

[copper bolt]

well it makes sense you need to put effort in if u want the extra resources no?

[velvet adder]

i wish plates were a lot more plentiful in opsi, kinda like an increase of plates so that opsi is more so around 95% of guild shop

i just feel gold plates are way way too rare

upgrading any gear at all is like a monthly project or longer

[hearty crane]

Yeah, but OPS/Guild effort definitely isn't 60/40.

[velvet adder]

honestly i think guild effort is way too much

i hate doing the guild missions

[wheat acorn]

I’ve been back for a month and am constantly reminded about something that irked me no end before - server timing and backgrounds. If we can’t have the time mirror our own local time, can we at least have the option disable the time function? For us in Asia and on the global servers it’s always gloomy nights in the HQ!

[arctic siren]

Maybe not related to the game itself, but can the devs show us the statistic for skin sales from here on?

[primal yew]

Why nobody told me Subs in daily challenge have limited amount of torpedo can fire BUT subs in sorties have unlimited amount of torpedo as long as they have oxygen to be on surface?

I have been lied over 3 years playing this game and time to rate 1/5 stars

sign: Yami

[somber cairn]

[scenic flower]

[hallow burrow]

hello can we have gvg pls

(guild vs guild)

[runic tartan]

[copper bolt]

How would you see implement this idea?

As in, what would you like to see for guild vs guild

[hallow burrow]

maybe a world boss that each guild can hit? in the other gacha I play, we have a world boss with 15 different levels with rewards. top guilds can often clear 10-11 tiers of the level, creating competition that isnt trivial (easy to kill) but also isnt overwhelmingly hard.

[copper bolt]

Fair enough, but how would you balance it with the current casual nature of the guild system because a lot of guilds are pretty small with a bunch of friends that play together. Iirc the devs said something about the average guild size is only ~10 members. Would you force them to separate for this boss that would probably require meta fleets and stuff.
What would you think about making it leaderboard only with no other rewards? Like EX but every guild can get rewards for killing an easier stage and anything after that is tryhsrds only?

Also would that be considered copying that other games mechanic? Idk how copyright infringement works though

[somber cairn]

also if it's a dps check world boss that means only meta fleets allowed and possibly guild kick if you dont use/have meta ships i suppose guild sharing helps a bit with that, but not entirely

guild ops works bc the boss is piss easy and will die in like 3 days pretty much guaranteed even if half the guild flops

[nova girder]

Could this awful screen shake be removed from the Strength fight? At least as an option? It's just terrible in every single imaginable way.

[fluid grotto]

tier-ed reward on how much dmg dealt

[nova girder]

It's both nauseating and insanely distracting

[somber cairn]

just give coggies to everyone who participates

[hallow burrow]

that would be nice to see, i kind of like the no reward route/cosmetic reward route

[hallow burrow]

and yes, im inclined to agree with this, or make rewards based on participation

[copper bolt]

[scenic flower]

Please, make the sprites of ships semi-transparent or something! I mean, that pics, when you spam your airstrikes, barrages, etc. Also, you can make them smaller. And the cannon sight must be above all kinds of graphics and having the contrasting border line, so we could SEE IT whatever mess is happening on the screen.

[ionic marsh]

Can we have independent ship loadouts per Daily Raids, each sub-chapter map, etc. - with the option to import from the standard 6 loadouts? Like how Hard maps have separate per-chapter loadouts, but make it per map (optionally?).

[somber cairn]

definitely would be nice to have as options in the settings

id also like an option to make my mouse/pointer much bigger and more visible bc sometimes i lose track of where tf my mouse is

especially in w14 that's bad

or change color actually, it being orange means it blends in with everything on screen

[hearty crane]

I would have agreed with that, if nowadays we dont all just skip them so it seems like a waste of devtime to me...

[ionic marsh]

True enough for daily raids, but would still be handy for maps?

[hearty crane]

Which maps would that be? Normal already has fleets, and hard already stores your fleet?

[ionic marsh]

Eh, in general - but particularly for events. Some maps need a slightly different loadout when, for example, the boss comes with like 3 unexpected flunkies that require more firepower or defense for successfully autoing

Also, per-map loadouts would still be nice for Hard Mode runs.

[somber cairn]

yeah id like per-map loadouts for hard mode

by no means essential but itd be nice

[copper nest]

That would be your os/emulator thing

[fluid grotto]

more coggies

[scenic flower]

even more arrays

and FAST

[velvet adder]

more arrays more gold plates x20 pls

[scenic flower]

👆🏽

[eternal bronze]

yes give arrays gold plates and coggies please

i hate having to switch gear every time cuz theres a big gap between 13+ compared to 10+

[fluid grotto]

make coggies drop from opsi

[eternal bronze]

also affinity

[scenic flower]

Affinity for subs everywhere. Coz too hard to get 200 without expencive extra efforts.

[eternal bronze]

imo affinity was not balanced at all for the EXP update

ships get to lvl 120 so fast that theres no time to bring them to 200 affinity if you oath them

[copper bolt]

well most players won't be able to oath all ships right? And if you oath a ship, you probably like them a lot to use them a lot despite them being 120 as well too right?

pretty sure the xp changes are supposed to make it less "punishing" to use 120s wherever and whenever you want to

[velvet adder]

secretary should just go all the way to 200 instead of capping

like of course a ship is going to go to love if she spends time with you everyday right?

why does it stop at crush

same as if you spend time with your wife, of course her affection is gonna grow

chapter speedup maps take way too long to run

[eternal bronze]

well thing is

after you complete all chapters

theres no really a reason to be playing there besides farming

[copper bolt]

ofc, what else is there to do in the downtime except farm?

unless ur just not playing at all inbetween events, in which case fair enough

[hearty crane]

One would still do 12/13 runs just to make coins though

[eternal bronze]

also

lethal mode option when?

for testing purposes

[velvet adder]

200 coins to switch between vanguard and main fleet mode? u think coins grow on trees, 0 coins or i walk

[eternal bronze]

More like

Making you able to switch their positions freely?

Cuz what we have now is bad design at its finest

Feels like im playing an old turn based RPG

[somber cairn]

oh rip

[somber cairn]

yepyep this. tho i agree with allowing subs specifically to get affinity from opsi, bc sub affinity is a pain

[somber cairn]

i think the idea behind it is they wanted you to use the ship in battle a little bit at least.

with that in mind i propose this: secretary works up to 90, like now. however, if oathed it goes up to 200.

[somber cairn]

200 coin isnt the part that's annoying, it's having to remove them from all fleets, especially opsi, which is annoying as hell. could be fixed by reducing the coin cost, and then changing it for a specific section of the game (normal fleets, hard mode, opsi fleets, pvp fleets) while not affecting the other ones.

like 40 coin cost, and able to change them in specific sections of the game, would be ideal

[hearty crane]

I mean they have to remove them from fleets since they become completely different ships taking completely different slots.
Also if you could circumvent the OPS fleet change mechanic with this I can instantly see it abused in, say, Hard Arbiters.

[somber cairn]

i mean the issue with opsi is that to change their position, you need to spend both your daily free change + 99 ap bc of how it works

spend daily change just to remove them, and then spend 99 ap to re-add them once changed.

if you could change them and swap them in a single fleet deployment it'd be a lot better.

it's still not exploitable as to reverse it still cost 99 ap or wait 1 day, but rn, to change it for a specific fight, then change it back, costs 297 ap or waiting 3 days in total.

bc of how clunky it is im basically never gonna be able to use them as backline bc theyre in my opsi vanguard

which is also why i'd like to be able to change their position for just a specific purpose, ie, campaign vs hard mode vs pvp vs opsi, just change one.

like how id love to have them for backline offense pvp fleet but cant bc opsi exists

[eternal bronze]

as i said

bad and lazy design

how someone accepted this thinking it would be good?

[fierce ember]

you can change their positions for free,unless i am missing the point
meofficers are also annoying in opsi,since you have to remove them each time to sack them or do anything which is just more clicks rather then it being limited

[void schooner]

You can't move ships between main fleet and vanguard, which would be the situation you'd be faced with if you wanted to move An Shan or Chang Chun, depending on where you wanted them.

[fierce ember]

ah,that,imo having a free switch of fleets whenever wont hurt anyone

[somber cairn]

once per day only.

and to change the ddgs from vg to main, youd need to use it twice

once to remove the ddgs so you can swap their position, then once again to re-add them

this means waiting a full 24 hours to fully swap them once for free, or spending 99 ap

it very much restricts their supposed versatility at being able to be either

[copper nest]

fleet redeploy should be free, it can only be used in ports so just charge for repairs like normally (or require fully repaired fleet to use it) 😐

[copper bolt]

is this because you can't switch the DDG between main and vanguard unless they are not in any fleet?

and isn't it 50 AP if u have to do it twice, once is free, the other is pay 50

[somber cairn]

yes

and no it costs 99 ap, going back to 0 over 24 hours

[somber cairn]

yeah instead of ap maybe paying like 2k opsi coins would be better

[copper nest]

if you really insist on paying something be my guest 😂

[copper bolt]

thing is, are u really needing to switch your opsi fleets more than once daily? Since idk about you but I've probably only used that option less than 10 times since opsi release.

and will u always be switching the DDGs betweens main and vanguard daily?

[somber cairn]

the issue isnt rly with that for me, the issue is id like to use ddgs in backline specifically in one situation, but i cant bc it forces me to change them in all places, and then back again once im done

specifically id like to try them as backline in my pvp offense fleet, but i cant unless i fuck up every other fleet

[copper bolt]

im not saying fleet deploy shouldn't be changed but isn't the issue just pinpointed on the main/vanguard swapping ships?

[somber cairn]

so what i really want is the ability to change them in a specific combat type only

[somber cairn]

heres my feedback

like if i want them as vg in everything but pvp, i cant have that currently, and it's annoying

or maybe i want them as backline in campaign, but vg in hard mode and opsi.

the issue is to swap between these you have to remove them from every fleet in every section of the game

bc the swap applies to the entire game

so my solution is to make us be able to swap for specific sections at a time

or it can remain as is and then ill just never use them as backline bc swapping is too damn big a hassle to justify it

[void schooner]

Nothing like coming back to opsi and noticing one of your ships is missing because you changed them main to vg, so the game automatically kicked them out of the formation. So you'd have to burn your free redeploy just to fill the slot anyway.

[copper bolt]

doesn't this contradict the earlier point that u have to remove them from the opsi formation to change their position?

[somber cairn]

oh wait i was told u had to remove them from opsi before changing

if you dont then ig it's much cheaper than i thought and thus less of an issue (but still annoying)

[void schooner]

I'm just assuming that would happen, mind you. I don't actually know if the game would.

[somber cairn]

this just seems annoyingly implemented, either way.

[fluid grotto]

coggies drop in w11

[somber cairn]

coggies drop in every world

[hearty crane]

Don't take my daily free heals away

[hearty crane]

I mean, it's the only way they could, apart from rebuilding the game up again from scratch... for 2 ships

[somber cairn]

ehh i guess

then fixing the opsi thing would at least alleviate it

[eternal bronze]

remember they are the ones at fault for making it over complicated

they could make it a less annoyance without having to rebuild the game

like uhh at least making us able to use them freely without dealing with fleet limitations?

instead of making 2 different deployment lines for them why coudn't they simply merge it

making them both backline/vanguard at the same time

that would fix the unusual problem with other game mode fleets

even a kid can think of something better

its already annoying to manage all the gear from different game modes now i have to manage ships positions

i guess thats what they call snowball effect

[somber cairn]

i think they made it separate bc each mode has big stat changes

so i can understand why, but it's still an annoying way to implement it tbh

[eternal bronze]

they could still make the stat changes separate in form of passive buffs

thats actually how i thought it would be when they were first announced

but i guess reality and expectations are a different kind

not only its lazy and badly designed but it has some touch of skill issue aswell

[wheat acorn]

fix the day/time cycle for players form Asia and everything will be good! I won’t ever complaint about wonky game mechanics and units 😅

[void schooner]

I believe we've been down the road of playing with time/time zones with the game. They can't do it without breaking everything, apparently.

[copper nest]

I would be all for rewriting sloppy code, rebuilding game fundamentals to not have stupid badly designed aspects of the game like those ddgs and to make it easier for them to implement more interesting mechanics, but people would cry about lack of new content 🤣

[prisma crypt]

Whats the issue regarding asia and timezones?

[wheat acorn]

HQ day night cycle tied to global server time ever since they put the feature in a couple of years back. But a lot of us are in Asia, hence our day and nights are reversed, and it’s gloomy nighttime backdrops whenever we play 😦

[prisma crypt]

Okay, i thought it was linked to the whole API error thing, is the solution already out there?

[wheat acorn]

It’s been years so i guess it’s not important enough to be fixed. It bothers me no end, and was one of the reasons why i left earlier but i suppose it isn’t a big deal for most.

[hollow sand]

when can we put vg ships in main fleet so i can make the ultimate baguette fleet

[timber grotto]

Faction medals for 36 ships plox

[round yacht]

Barguette

[hearty crane]

So yes, "rebuilding the game from scratch"... easy, right?

[hearty crane]

Don't forget the matriatic ton of bugs, the need to download a 5GB "patch" cause it's basically a new game, the whole fun shebang of rebuilding your 6 year old game... for 2 ships cause some people don't find them convient enough (and in the end would just still vanguard them anyway since they're better there)

[hearty crane]

As we asked you 2 weeks ago... did you submit it to Belfast instead of posting here multiple times daily?

[copper nest]

Yep yep for 2 ships only, obviously. Yep 5gb patch because rewriting assets is needed. 😐

And then you complain about "not a bugs" or opsi bugs since it's release. Of course bug fixing and providing better running game won't give them money 🤣

This could fix so many things (unresponsive UI after logging in, inventory system, which you I think, mentioned few days ago on bug reports) and create baseline for even more crazy ships and mechanics (urs xd) and some good classic optimization for good measure.

[hearty crane]

Most mandatory patches that just do minor updates are already require like 2GB downloads so yeah, kinda basing it on that.
Most issues lingering in known-bugs or the trello are easy fixes that require them to just, you know, do it.
I kinda doubt there A-teams on the game so this also assumes fully making it up from scratch makes it better rather than, you know, worse. We all remember implementation of recent new OPS features right? Right?

[hollow sand]

can we get a good HE BB gun thats gold
thank

[scenic flower]

HE UR BB gun would be much better.

[copper nest]

😃

For real, yeah that would be nice, about ur gun there's one already, they just need to slap it into gear lab

[eternal bronze]

this one is better than the mk6 when maxed but yeah you need to max it

[copper nest]

and it's in ancient pr1, just not really worth the investment, getting it for cores is meh because there are many better options to spend them on and doing series 1 researches is just no

[fleet salmon]

Just get it from gear lab then

[scenic flower]

too expensive

[copper nest]

yeah right, but why it wants electronics come on

[fleet salmon]

Still a much better way to get it than research

[scenic flower]

I have a ton of them from the research without tryharding for this exactly gun.

[fleet salmon]

Me too, but some people apparently don't

[cursive horizon]

Someone has probably mentioned this before, but can we not see the ❗ constantly on the Bristol fight? I don't have any plans to grind another 10,000+ points to the next reward, nor should I be pestered by the game cause I haven't touched Easy/Normal.

[regal elm]

Can we have an option so that, instead of tapping the screen once, you need to tap the screen twice to cancel the auto-search in OpSi? Basing this feedback on the ground that every time I want fo open my notifications, I'd inevitably have to tap the screen, therefore cancelling the Auto-Search (and to an extent, Strategic Search function)

[acoustic helm]

^ what aoi an65 said

[timber grotto]

Faction medals for 36 ships plox

[fleet salmon]

You've been spamming that for how many months now? Instead of sparing 5 minutes and sending feedback like you're supposed to when you want something changed in the game?

[ornate basin]

please redirect this to us in #discord-feedback and not flood this channel further, on the other hand, I thought I was seeing this message too often, but its hard when it gets flooded in conversations about the same thing every day too

[hearty crane]

Can you guys fix this for the NO rerun atleast...?
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/749051054393524265/815348294854377522/Northern_Wonderland.png

[velvet adder]

premium dorm items are a scam tbh make them purchaseable with dorm tokens

people actually buying them and enabling this "feature"

[hearty crane]

Well, I don't disagree... but it's really not related to them fixing up the default layout (which apparently isn't a bug, hence putting it under feedback here )

[copper nest]

Noooo they will go bankrupt!!!

Agreed and at the very least they could get rid of gem prices for furniture that's purchasable for tokens, stupid trap for not careful enough

[cursive horizon]

I didn't even know there were exclusive, premium only furniture until I clicked on the wrong tab a couple months ago in the shop. I'd never seen them before and was surprised, but also disappointed, that I can't use my thousands of room decor tokens on them.

[granite bluff]

Please add pity selection Idk how but I'm around 200 summons now and seen not a single Charybdis. I don't think I've had this much trouble summoning UR ships.

[timber grotto]

Faction medals for Dragon Empery ships plox

[fluid grotto]

[ornate basin]

rewording your feedback is the same thing as saying it over and over, if you want to spam a feedback please send a feedback to belfast so that other users can vote on it

[timber grotto]

I understand this request can seem similar to the ones before at a glance, but it is not a rewording - it is a unique request.

I specifically requested Dragon Empery medallions today because after getting the new ships from the currently ongoing event, players now have access to 12 DE ships to level - opening the way for DE medallion to be viable.

I drafted and started posting the previous requests for new level of medals for 36 ships far before 12 DE ships were even available to be leveled for medallions - which I believe shows that this new request that was triggered by 12 DE ships becoming available in the current ongoing event is distinct from the previous requests.

I really enjoy collecting medallions as part of the gameplay experience the devs designed and I do have different thoughts them - and others are free to chime in as well (for example, there was a discussion on this channel about if the silver level of faction medals should be 48 instead of 36 since the numbers usually double, which I thought was an insightful input/discussion that I got from posting on this channel).

I would like to continue posting here while doing the following:

(1) Not spamming in terms of volume - I rarely post here more than once a day anyways.
(2) Not spamming in terms of repeating the same request over and over again, each of my suggestions/thoughts will be different.
(3) Only making valid game feedback that directly relates to content in the game and my gameplay experience as an end-user.
(4) Only making posts that abide by the rules of this server.
(5) Only making posts that abide by the rules of this channel.

If you guys want to make a rule saying all comments must be submitted to belfast before being posted on this channel first, I will gladly follow that rule as well.

Thank you for your hard work managing this server.

[hearty crane]

Most medals have a second part with 24 ships though. Most minor factions (including the Chinese) do not have so many. Do they just get 1 level then? Also I personally would much prefer faction tech for minor over medals seeing one would have gameplay influence... while the other doesn't. My 2 cents.

[somber cairn]

i mean, 1 level of medals couldnt hurt ig, it'd be nice for those who love those factions to be able to display those medals on their profile

i also agree with giving them faction tech as well. can always do both

[hearty crane]

Both is good And yeah good point on showing off your undying faction love on profile.

[fleet salmon]

Some time ago, I sent a feedback to Belfast with a suggestion to make meowfficer talent resets refresh with the daily reset. A few updates later that was implemented.
No walls of text and no posting the same thing every day for months required.
Just saying.

[fluid grotto]

yeah lets just hope its a common idea with cn playerbase

[somber cairn]

bless you for doing that btw, it's so much better this way

[hearty crane]

Now tell them to not reset the blueprints on a dumb time too...

[wheat yoke]

^ +1

[cursive horizon]

Can we also get them to just flipping make the PR2 DR prints available for coins? This was the entire thing I (and doubtless others) was waiting for and then they just shafted us on it. Azuma is going to take forever unless I sacrifice working on PR4. Outside of PR1, every PR will likely have at least one DR going now so we do not want them to keep holding those damned prints hostage.

[velvet adder]

true add fdg fate sim and just make everything bought with coins

[fluid grotto]

increase UR gear print rate for ppl who alr finished pr/dr ships dev

[hearty crane]

I mean it already kinda is with PR out of the picture... I generally do get Agir/Haru D missions every roll now... Just hoping for the blue ones since they are better than purple and gold...

[merry sonnet]

Just submitted a suggestion to adjust how preload salvos work. It's pretty frustrating to see Champagne wasting a salvo on a weak mob at the start of the battle because the humanoid enemy only spawns half a second later.

Preload airstrikes work fine, so preload salvos need a QoL change, especially in Champagne's case, since she only has one main gun mount

[hearty crane]

Downvoted. The bad thing about 95% cooldown over preload is it will be seen as "first salvo", and a bunch of skills and gear (specifically the High Performance Fire Control Radar) will be absolutely wasted then.
So yeah, the idea is good, the proposed execution isn't.

[merry sonnet]

Making the humanoids spawn at the same time as the other mobs would fix the issue, but then the devs would have to remake every single stage, which would be just silly

They could also change when the game recognizes that the preloaded salvo is ready to be fired. In essence: making it impossible to fire a salvo in the first second of battle.

But yeah, I guess if they look at the form I submitted in a vacuum, they'll probably discard the idea immediately

But to be honest, between completely wasting a salvo and wasting the staggering potential of the HPFCR, I think the latter is an acceptable sacrifice. It's not optimal, but it's the only way I could think of that doesn't require complicated coding.

Guess I'll wait a few weeks and then submit the same idea with different wording. Fuck my life.

[eternal bronze]

actually not bad even DDGs face the same problem

[merry sonnet]

Yeah, it's not game-breaking but it's very clunky

Even DDs suffer from that to some extent when they ram towards the right side of the screen at the start of the battle and fire their torpedoes towards nothing, but even that is not as bad as Champagne completely wasting a salvo on a trash mob

It's clunky to use Champagne in the mob fleet because of that, and it shouldn't be

It's like the performance of some ships is affected by clunky game design rather than their intrinsic characteristics

[fluid grotto]

what you want is smart-auto QoL where you can toggle salvo/airstrike only when elite/humanoid on screen

[somber cairn]

could just implement a cooldown before the preload goes off of around 1s delay.

[fluid grotto]

changing how preload is too much of extra step to fix the problem

giving a delay = nerf them on bossing

[hearty crane]

But torpedoes generally launch before the boss does

[opal sorrel]

So i wake up just to find out a lot of my ships gone missing from my dock along with some pr ships and i can't even access agir

Is this a bug?

[old monolith]

You'd go back to the title screen and log in with a bound account

And if you haven't bound your account, RIP

[opal sorrel]

oh it worked

thanks

[old monolith]

[maiden basalt]

Washington l2d.

[ornate basin]

@vestal cloak no nsfw or troll comments please

[vestal cloak]

Omg

[merry sonnet]

That sounds like too much hand-holding. I just want an existing mechanic (preload salvo) to work as intended instead of being limited by awkward game design.

After sleeping on it I feel like making it impossible to fire a salvo in the first second of battle is the way to go

I don't want to be weird and start spamming suggestions, so I'll wait a while before submitting again

[fluid grotto]

unable to fire on salvo at the start means pushing their rof down, a nerf for bossing

[merry sonnet]

You mentioned a smart-auto that only fires a salvo/airstrike when there's an elite on screen. That wouldn't affect carriers because they have hangar capacity +1, but that smart-auto would delay salvos whenever there's a trash mob or suicide boat still alive

In fact, it would delay the salvos much more than a measly 0.5s or so delay at the start of the battle

Plus, preload carriers work fine. They don't need that.

I really don't see how a fraction of a second would "nerf" any ships for bossing

If a fraction of a second is the difference between firing and not firing a last salvo before the end of the battle, then chances are your BB wouldn't finish firing anyway

[fluid grotto]

any second theyre unable to shot their preload thats another sec added to their salvo interval, which affect their performance in fleet building.
and the smart auto i mention serves it purposes, they will hold if theres no elite means better dmg spread, and will always shoot at bossing since theyre count toward elite.

[merry sonnet]

hold if there's no elite
Yes, better damage spread, but still delayed. It's very common for waves to be delayed up to 3 whole seconds because of one suicide boat at the edge of the screen. If your concern is delayed salvos in boss fights, then a smart-auto is objectively worse than a 0.5s delay at the start of the battle

Besides, again, sounds like too much hand-holding

[fluid grotto]

that 3 second delay in mobbing will save you much more time by enabling salvo for the next wave.
and t will shoot immediately on bossing since boss counts as elite, idk why u think it worse than delay

isn hand holding stuff is what people looking for here

easier and more convenient stuff pl0x

[merry sonnet]

I wouldn't complain if they added a smart-auto. Mob battles don't last that long anyway, so the delay wouldn't matter. I just don't know how I feel about making the game even easier.

My preload salvo QoL suggestion simply aims to make an existing mechanic work as intented

If nothing else, at least Champagne deserves some attention there, since she only has one main gun mount and always wastes a salvo on a trash mob that often dies before the salvo even reaches it

Short delay at the start of the battle = makes fast clearing mobs more consistent
Smart-auto = better damage spread at the cost of making the game easier and maybe delaying salvos too much in some content

[fluid grotto]

thats why i said smart-auto toggle
just enable them for mobbing

delaying preload will change preload ships rof for boss battle that spawn immediately, which is most of end game content for now

and i would like my preload to be able to shoot right away tyvm
crucial for doing time attack instance like cm/ex

[merry sonnet]

EX, META fights, stronghold final bosses, siren abyss and monthly bosses
Those are the only places where the boss spawns immediately

[fluid grotto]

"only"

[merry sonnet]

And from my personal experience, preload BBs wouldn't have better performance even if you made their salvos 1 second faster

[fluid grotto]

pretty much what youre doing for late game

[merry sonnet]

So you really think a fraction of a second would make a difference in that content?

[fluid grotto]

yeah, especially ex and cm

[merry sonnet]

A fraction of a second?

[fluid grotto]

yep

[merry sonnet]

Show me the ships you're using as reference and their gear

[fluid grotto]

what, preload ships?

[merry sonnet]

Yes

[fluid grotto]

riche,jb and such
can screen you stuff but it's derailed far from the feedback

[merry sonnet]

I'm more interested in their specific stats with fleet tech, gear, etc
Better yet, you can do your own calculations: https://thebombzen.moe/azur-lane/cooldown/battleship/

[copper nest]

https://twitter.com/AzurLane_EN/status/1491743763072368643
I think you have error in your tweet, you said general parts instead of torpedo parts 🙂

Azur Lane Official (@AzurLane_EN)

【Notice】

Commander, the upgrading materials for SY-1 Missile have been adjusted to general parts. All the coins and main gun parts that were spent have been refunded via in-game mail. Sorry for the inconvenience and thank you for your support.

#AzurLane #Yostar

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Twitter · Feb 10, 2022, 12:00 PM

[merry sonnet]

See how long EX fights last and calculate if your preload BBs would fire an extra salvo before the end of the battle

[fluid grotto]

in this kind of content you want to kill the boss by first salvo, theres no need to count interval
thats how crucial being able to shoot right away or not

[merry sonnet]

I used Richy in the Bristol EX and she didn't come even close to firing an extra salvo before the end of the battle

In fact, she fired the last salvo with 12 or so seconds remaining

Again, a fraction of a second would not make a difference there

[fluid grotto]

yes it is, a second late = losing score

[copper nest]

Elites should spawn instantly, best fix 😃

[merry sonnet]

That's what I thought at first as well, but then they'd have to pretty much recode every mob stage in the game

[copper nest]

Oh no!

It's their job, they made it stupid so they should make it not stupid 💀

[fluid grotto]

also not being able to shoot preload salvo when boss being static at the start of the battle is alr dps lose in most bosses

[hollow sand]

would rather use 300 of each other purple plate to +10 rather than use general plates

[fluid grotto]

it was general part in cn client guess we just follow suit

[copper nest]

I remember people saying they should use torp parts not general parts 🏴‍☠️

[merry sonnet]

Time-stop exists for the first round of the salvo
Either way the boss would be moving during the next two rounds without the time-stop, so the result would be the same with and without the preload delay

[hearty crane]

[hollow sand]

they should be like 50/50 main and torp

[fluid grotto]

time stop still can miss on moving target btw

bu tldr, yeah fraction of second matters in some contents

[merry sonnet]

Miss? Nah
One shell out of three? Yeah, but then again, the same can happen when the boss is static, because gun spread.

[hollow sand]

like i mean i already upgraded to +10 so im good
but im sure everyone else would not happy that missiles (a main weapon) now have to be upgraded with the plates that no one has any of

[fluid grotto]

especially time attack

[hearty crane]

Did you not read the "reset and refunded" part...?

Yes, RIP my 2 +10's too

[copper bolt]

it doesn't say reset in the tweet though

[fluid grotto]

still a good thing tbh, t5 gun part are scarce compared to general, and who cares bout purple, will get shit ton of them from event anyway

[hollow sand]

the missiles have been adjusted
but doesnt say reset

but i mean it would make most sense to reset them

but then that makes everything worse

@twilit pawn

[fluid grotto]

the refund implying there will be reset

[twilit pawn]

ya it will be reset to +0 and the material and gold will be refunded

[hollow sand]

wtf

can we have it not gen plates

for a main weapon

when gen plates are already extremely low because every ship has 2 aux slots

[copper bolt]

understood

[copper bolt]

that says it will be refunded, not reset

[fierce ember]

"lets flood general plates pool some more,everyone has them right?"
and completely ignoring that on base level concept it doesnt even work

[copper bolt]

ofc you can say it implies but it does not explicitly state that. Anyway it's been cleared up

[fluid grotto]

[hollow sand]

this actually the first time ive been pissed off with azur lane

[hearty crane]

How do you think refunds work? You don't get money AND the item...

[fluid grotto]

just be gratefull you dont have to waste t5 gun plate for it

[fierce ember]

every single ship in the game has at LEAST 2 aux items=2 general parts
yet,torpedoes work only on a specific class of CAs/CLs and destroyers
the decision to make them use general plates is something that just cannot be understood by me no matter how much i look at it
99% was suggesting it to be changed on to torps
and yet,you decided to make "not the best" decision in to even worse

[hollow sand]

bruh i buy stuff on ebay and get a refund and they say dont bother sending it back

[fluid grotto]

t5 general plate has higher drop rate and aux is less impactful than weapon for +11/above
it's a win

[hollow sand]

well anyways i think it should be half main gun half torpedo plates to upgrade
hardly have any gen plates

[hearty crane]

Now... compare it to torp

[fluid grotto]

idk +13 bidder pretty stronk

[uneven jewel]

even so, I don't think they've reset/removed the already maxed missiles. so it's a win/win for everyone. you either get all the plates to max them or you already maxed them and get some free ones too. the latter is obviously better

[hollow sand]

(unless they gonna bring out some sort of plate converting thingy then that would be fine to upgrade with gen plates)

[fluid grotto]

yostar staff alr confirmed its a reset

[fleet salmon]

@uneven jewel

[uneven jewel]

[scenic flower]

I'm pissed by them changing the plates to the general ones. It's just not smart nor kind.

[uneven jewel]

okay, then it sucks. godspeed

[hollow sand]

looking at twitter comments
everyone is mad

[eternal bronze]

are you sure resetting the missiles is smart?

literally anyone with a common sense

would think 2 times before doing something like this

its like the devs don't play their own game

ffs

i wasted 3 guild shop resets for t4 main gun parts

and used 500 general plates for oxy torps

im out of general plates now and my missile was at 12+ already

[ornate basin]

try to keep your feedback in one message rather than use multiple lines bit spammy

[eternal bronze]

sorry there are times that i can't think much when im pissed like this

now my guide is gonna be postponed because of devs decision

[fluid grotto]

make the refund as generic plate so no one qq ing

protest now before they send the refund

[fierce ember]

rage is not bcs of the FACT of a refund,but bcs of a change from bad decision of gun plates to worse being aux plates
how hard is that to not force a use of already overused material?

[eternal bronze]

the larger problem is how they are shitting on everyones progress

i legit have no aux plates to 10+ both of the missiles

imagine even 13+ them

[fluid grotto]

having generic plates as refund means you keep your progression
the change bound to happen anyway since we got the wrong patch

[eternal bronze]

i don't see this refund helping much and no one had a crystal ball to know they were going to reset them

[fluid grotto]

its confirmed by staff its going to be resetted few convo above

[copper nest]

also bad approach, if we got wrong patch we should get day 1 message that missiles were supposed to require aux plates and we will get patch addressing it in the future and that when that happens all upgrades will be reverted

[eternal bronze]

yes but what info we had back when the missile was implemented?

[copper nest]

not message at the time when it happens 🙂

[fluid grotto]

yeah they should have addressing it by day one

[copper nest]

and it's still wrong patch, correct patch is torp plates obviously

[eternal bronze]

small indie company btw

[fluid grotto]

[eternal bronze]

i was thinking about buying tash skin too bad though

[copper nest]

now we will get cn's reduced upgrade costs patch I bet 💀 since we're following them

[fluid grotto]

rip yostar few bucks income

[eternal bronze]

too bad im not the only one pissed

[fluid grotto]

al is cancelled soon

[eternal bronze]

[hearty crane]

Now that would be nice... though last time they screwed up XP to use CN values they didn't give us CN values 😦

[fluid grotto]

lb0 lvl 100 cap for EN too

[eternal bronze]

also PGR learned the hard way when it comes to lack of communication lets hope devs realize this before its too late

[hoary warren]

@copper nest

[copper nest]

😃

[hollow sand]

[hoary warren]

+10

[hollow sand]

genuinely confused
why gen plates

[copper nest]

we get normal costs too, so it's not bugged at least xddd

[eternal bronze]

lets praise the company for doing the minimum after we got shitted on 🙏

[raw quest]

nice

[copper nest]

Are new players getting cutscene from minigame that is now gone because of short rerun? This one

[eternal bronze]

i too like getting shitted on and being submissive

[raw quest]

[hollow sand]

why did we get stabbed in the back like this
i am confusion
pls explain

[fluid grotto]

rip not generic plates

@copper nest now thats a problem

[hollow sand]

i really hope they realise thier mistake and fix this

[eternal bronze]

i think i will retire my DDGs

[scenic flower]

👍🏽

TF there are the general BPs from PR2 at event shop???

[noble python]

yea seems like it

[copper nest]

lmaoooooooo no way

[scenic flower]

[past ridge]

I wss just about to ask about that lmao

[reef tinsel]

I really hope this is a mistake

[noble python]

yostar doing their best

[reef tinsel]

because if this is not a mistake and we got pr2 prints + no arrays then its

[copper nest]

also I think point costs in shop should be reduced a little bit too

since we have 1 week less to farm (and daily bonuses don't help that much)

[scenic flower]

oh yeah, and no arrays, wich is a crime

[fluid grotto]

other region got the same, so probably intended

[noble python]

Tho keep in mind that a major event might come right after this rerun so

[copper nest]

doesn't change the fact that it's ass 💀

at least adjust bps lmao, pls small indie company

[noble python]

100% agree

[vestal escarp]

the change to gen plates are not really that nice but its still fine to some degree.

also why is the event shop only offering PR2 prints? is this a bug or is it intended that the event shop only have PR2 prints?

[noble python]

jp and cn got it so should be intended

[scenic flower]

intended bug xD

[vestal escarp]

well that is a dissapointment

[copper nest]

can't believe someone approved it and said "yep players will like it"

[reef tinsel]

honestly I lost all desire to grind in this event

pr2 prints are useless to me

[scenic flower]

Not sure I'll have enough pts for BPs anyway. There are 2 guns to buy and a report...

[merry sonnet]

Just grabbing the general plates, especially with the ridiculous change to the missiles. And the cog chips

[scenic flower]

And the beginners, that have no Chappy/Minsk can suffer even moar

[eternal bronze]

i honestly can't believe that they play their own game

[vestal escarp]

series 2 prints is weird

[vast berry]

Hi Manjuu. The Silkworm Missile scales off of Torpedo stat. It should use torpedo plates. Thank you.

[vestal escarp]

cause series 2 prints have recently been made available for gold....

[reef tinsel]

I assume this is because there is still a new major event coming this month and they dont want to give 2x prints

[scenic flower]

Can't see the rerun skins btw

[merry sonnet]

You're literally better off grinding higher chapters for coins as that's 1500 coins per print.

[copper nest]

they're not given, they're earned through farming and playing the game 😃

[merry sonnet]

DR prints might still have some value for azuma fatesim

[vast berry]

Fuck Azuma fate sim. Save it for FDG fate sim

[scenic flower]

I only need PR3+ UR prints

[vast berry]

Azuma can go salt on a corner

[vestal escarp]

having the prints stuck at PR2 and then offering PR2 for gold is kinda stupid

[viscid moon]

I am not sure, but this is just first impression

[vestal escarp]

guess the devs are still in holiday mood

[viscid moon]

Short rerun strikes me as not newbie friendly at all

[vestal escarp]

its not newbie friendly but its also not veteran player incentive

since the prints nad all are series 2....and most vets would be done with at least dev 30 and want other prints

[viscid moon]

As a veteran player... The prints and cat boxes and maybe anotehr Chappy gun would be nice

[scenic flower]

OK, devs, it's time to fix all this mess!

[vestal escarp]

dont see the appeal of series 2 prints ngl.

[reef tinsel]

whats not newbie friendly is that from now on we will most likely be getting one of those short reruns + major event every month

[viscid moon]

oh crap you're right, series 2. Useless

Buy the Chappy gun and cat boxes and I'm done

[vestal escarp]

also the changing of the missiles from guns to aux is kinda stupid seeing how it occupies the torp slot....

[scenic flower]

cat boxes are low priority

[viscid moon]

Well, what else is there for a veteran player

[vast berry]

Its so that we cant use our torp plates, our most numerous plates.

[viscid moon]

Maybe get the 10 DR prints to help FS5 FdG

[vestal escarp]

its kinda dumb cause gun and torps are really numerous compared to something like AUX.

[copper nest]

🏴‍☠️

[eternal bronze]

cuz making general plates when they are scarce ashell

is balanced trust

[harsh pond]

Just consolidate all upgrade plates into single type used by all gear...

[eternal bronze]

also im not taking the plates from the mail i don't need pity when decisions like this are made

[scenic flower]

oh, the patch is coming

[hushed knoll]

I'll buy all the blueprints from the event shop, so that I can convert them to the prototype shop currency for future rainbow gear.

[scenic flower]

lol, they fixed the skins, but not BPs xD

[thin turret]

im so happy i have to redo event from scratch w/o an option to skip the "story" and do all maps from scratch again

[copper nest]

especially with dialogue options interrupting "skip"

[hushed knoll]

Wait, they will modify the Series II Blueprints to Series IV?

[noble python]

doubt it imo

[scenic flower]

nice question. Not sure anymore.

[hushed knoll]

Becasue I didn't saw that in the known bugs list.

[scenic flower]

How are JP/CN reacting?

[reef tinsel]

Its most likely intended. I hope im wrong

[eternal bronze]

#collected-feedback message

i've sent it to belfast

[uneven jewel]

bless you

[vestal escarp]

welp hopefully we get a fix to these things.

at least the prints, the aux plates for missiles is dumb but still acceptable to a certain degree

[stone valley]

What’s the point to “skip”dialogue when you still have to choose an option

[copper bolt]

an alternative way of looking at it is free PR cores

[fluid grotto]

allow autosearch without clearing

[hollow sand]

i would assume they will either fix the shop soon or just send everyone pr4 prints as compensation

[summer spindle]

It would be great if the items in the event shop were half price as well. Have half the time, yet everything g jn the shop still costs the same

[hollow sand]

you earn way more tho

[ionic matrix]

Give me back my two +10 missiles!

[hollow sand]

[summer spindle]

Do I earn double the amount as the og run? Havent calced it but I severely doubt it

[hollow sand]

normal daily bonus is x5
hard is x3
think the other stuff gives more as well or something

[copper bolt]

5x on 1st clear on normal maps and 3x on hard

doing all B and D maps once per day gives 2400 pts not including missions

OG run u need to do 13.3 runs of D3 for the same equiv amount

this is more suited to #gameplay-help than feedback tho

[uneven jewel]

went from 2x +13 to +10 and +6

[normal vine]

https://tenor.com/view/i-hate-that-i-hate-it-hate-i-dont-like-it-quit-it-gif-15095739

could have taken torp plates at least, but nooo, it's gotta be aux

[eternal bronze]

My soul dies inside looking at mine

+12/+10 to +8/+6

This is fine

Note that i don't even have enough t4 general parts also

[hollow sand]

Azur lane has never let me down once
They will change it to torp plates

[eternal bronze]

[full flame]

the event tokens.... so they dont let you just get the ships but you get the standard construction ... So what is the point of not using cubes when using those tokens is the same? They could of just given as cubes

[velvet adder]

add auto play without danger mode being safe

even if its just reruns

its so annoying having to clear like 30 maps in 1 day

[full flame]

I thought the idea was to earn those and construct the returning ships but you just get a random drop... They could of just give reward cubes and let you pull ,because its the same,,,,

[velvet adder]

they dont wanna give cubes because then you can save them, with tickets youre forced to pull

so its like theyre giving out nothing

[full flame]

Looking at how many tokes they give in the end of the day is the same. You will use those in a couple of bad pulls and its back to cubes...

[final jewel]

ikr, i have way too many torp plates but im already extremely short on aux plates i wouldnt even have minded them staying on mg plates, just everything except for aux

[velvet adder]

on reruns now you should really wait until the last day to do more pulls (or until you spend all 32 tickets), with the tickets its around a 50% chance to get a 2% ship (statistically)

and use all the tickets beforehand to maximise the amount of cubes you can save

[uneven jewel]

for you. but we vets could stock up on even more cubes, which might be nice for us but is not beneficial for the devs

[full flame]

Actually its not for me ,I'm a vet as well. I actually started playing just prior to the original Norden Overture event. I'm just curious about the others from my clan. I don't really care about cubes. I stockpiled 1200 cubes .Ever since Shinano got me with my pants down (I had 200 cubes) and boreally managed to get her , I haven't allowed myself to be bellow 800). Its actually quite easy to stock pile them if you dont use cube research.

[copper bolt]

the opsi shop port change is v.nice

small orange icon with boxes if there are items in stock
new tag next to it if you havent checked it after restocking

[velvet adder]

Is this only going to be only PR2 prints considering it is a light event so rewards or limited? or maybe it was a mistake and forgot to update it to PR4 prints?...

pr2

wtf

honestly its always been one of the dumbest things that they retain the "exact shop" from their original run, time has changed since then update the shop so it stocks the most modern supplies

makes this event barely worth running

[copper bolt]

other reruns have updated to most recent series, it's just this rerun is the first of its type

[normal vine]

dunno, I can use them to finish Azuma and then for Fritz (if she ever gets FS)

[velvet adder]

so i guess its a bug/mistake

yeah but if you have pr4 you can make them into azuma and fdg prints anyway

its always better to give us the latest pr season prints

[full flame]

It has to be a code copy problem ,because on other event re-runs they have used the current PR lvl for the prints

Here is an example from the French rerun in November

[ionic marsh]

Now that reruns are just one week long, can we just auto the maps after the first clear?

I don't see why I should keep doing the maps manually repeatedly until 100%, just to autofarm. Especially on Hard maps. I just wanna get to SP map.

[split gyro]

The rerun event shop is terrible. Series 2 prints, no CogArrays, same price for everything. What? This is terrible. Just terrible. I have no desire in the slightest to even grind the maps now.

[ionic marsh]

I mean, the map point yield should be at least twice the regular, given the event is cut in half.

[finite dawn]

I completely disagree with your decision to change the parts that are needed to improve rockets. The game is already seeing a huge imbalance in parts to improve modules. General parts need TOO MUCH for everything, while other parts are almost not needed for anything.

At least add the ability to create T3 parts from T2 and T1 parts. Or increase the amount of general parts received by players. It's just an unbearable situation.

[copper bolt]

it's already been suggested as a trello card

u can go upvote/downvote it #collected-feedback message

[split gyro]

if they keep the outdated shops for reruns now, means players that play longer get worse and less rewards. just bad idea. who at manjuu thought "players will love a outdated shop, 50% less time to grind points and the same price tags for everything"?

[finite dawn]

Okay, but my suggestion isn't just about missiles. I've been mad at the situation with parts in the game for a long time

[copper bolt]

i was more talking about the missiles, not the bit on the balance of parts ^^

[split gyro]

and the daily clear bonus doesn't even offset the shorter run. I think it's not double the amount of points. And normal runs probably yield the same pathetic amount right?

[copper bolt]

can u expand?

why isn't the daily bonus offsetting it in your opinion

[split gyro]

I mean wasn't the daily clear on regular maps 3x? should be 6x now, no?

[copper bolt]

that's for 2 week reruns

[velvet adder]

cos the event was divided by 2

[somber cairn]

welp i woke up to disaster bullshit, the missile change is bloody stupid, i already +13ed a s4g bc i didnt think this would happen, now i cant +12 my missile back again

[copper bolt]

regular events don't have any bonuses

[velvet adder]

but the event multiplier was only increased by 50%

[split gyro]

old reruns then. I don't think they doubled the daily clear or did they?

nyano that's what I mean

[velvet adder]

i agree its dumb

[split gyro]

halved the runtime but didn't double reward

[velvet adder]

its a hell of a lot more condensed grinding

[somber cairn]

it went from 3x normal 2x hard to 5x normal 3x hard which isnt enough

[velvet adder]

they should have doubled ALL map rewards

for every clear

[somber cairn]

yeah this entire update is shit

[split gyro]

if this is the new lite format for reruns, I say it clearly: this sucks

[velvet adder]

instead of just halving event milestone

[ionic marsh]

👍🏼👍🏼

[somber cairn]

yes i fully agree, i was concerned about "light" reruns from the beginning and the end result shows me my concerns were mostly justified

[split gyro]

first time I am unhappy with the game and its decision here

[somber cairn]

also the fucking missile change at least refund them as ALL plates...

[copper bolt]

don't forget the daily bonus is for the rerun only.

[somber cairn]

also besides the refund we got NO compensation for the inconvenience...

[split gyro]

lol half the runtime but no double rewards. thanks for nothing

we made a loss here

[copper bolt]

the OG run did not have any multipliers, it only had one for the normal map, not hard mode

[velvet adder]

yes but the rerun is 1/2th the time

[split gyro]

and what about normal clears without daily clear reward? still the same lousy 180?

[somber cairn]

compared to other reruns which last 2x as long, we got worse off here

[velvet adder]

just half the time to grind 2x the rewards, with only one clear a day being 50% extra

[somber cairn]

this is the change for reruns

[split gyro]

if they didn't double normal clear points then this is even worse

[somber cairn]

[velvet adder]

and then the event shop has nothing good in it

oil i guess

[copper bolt]

do u guys normally do the daily bonus on all the normal stage maps?

because the 3x hard mode bonus is v.good

[velvet adder]

but its only 1 clear

[split gyro]

Long story short: Outdated shops that doesn't appeal do vets or newbies, terrible point rewards for clearing, half the runtime but not double rewards, normal clears probably completely untouched. so even worse. why even grind a rerun now?

[somber cairn]

so lemme get this straight: bullshit missile change with a badly thought out refund, no compensation for inconvenience of a mistake on THEIR part which they didnt inform ahead of time, pr2 prints in shop and milestone, shop is same price, no arrays in shop, pathetic minor bonus in point gain from event, event lasts half the time.

yeah fuck this nonsense

[copper bolt]

arrays weren't added for any rerun

[split gyro]

baffled how the devs greenlit this

[raw quest]

[somber cairn]

oh yeah and the event eats into what is normally a dead week when we can save up resources, too

[velvet adder]

to put this into context you get an extra 750 points per clear of hard mode a day

[somber cairn]

[velvet adder]

c1-d3 = 750 extra points

[split gyro]

gee thanks for nothing

[somber cairn]

that's 5250 bonus points over the entire event

[velvet adder]

yet normally people grinded around 35000 points minimum for the prints per event for the bps

[somber cairn]

event shop buyout is like what 80-100k? this barely dents it and certainly doesnt compensate for half the time.

[split gyro]

simply solution: update the rerun shops, DOUBLE clear rewards. ALL clear rewards. daily clear and normal clear. done

[somber cairn]

they shouldve made it like 8x hard 12x normal, then i think it'd be ok

[velvet adder]

its a "light" rerun, so why is it even grindier than before?

[somber cairn]

or yknow just halve the shop prices

[split gyro]

otherwise this new rerun system sucks

or that

[somber cairn]

halving the shop prices + doubling the drop rate of event exclusive bps like chappygun = im happy with it.

[ionic marsh]

Personally, I try to clear every first run bonus everyday - but 100%-ing every single map in a day takes a lot more hours and attention that it seems.

[split gyro]

we call it "lite" but demand even more condensed grinding. - Manjuu HQ

[velvet adder]

yeah it takes so long and i usually forget

[somber cairn]

[velvet adder]

my fleet just sat on the battle complete screen

[somber cairn]

well i have to say im actually impressed

[velvet adder]

[split gyro]

this is the opposite of "lite"

[somber cairn]

this is the first time manjuu has really disappointed me and shown they are fallible like any normal game company

[copper bolt]

i think it's fine, if the shop is not too enticing, most players who were around for the original run can just chill. If you weren't around for the original run then you'd expect to put in more effort to "catch up" right?

[somber cairn]

sadly it had to happen for an event i was dying for a rerun of

[somber cairn]

ehhh with little to no break in between events this just ends up unfair to newer players

[split gyro]

thing is, if they keep the oudated shops, vets get less rewards out of them. and newbies have to grind MORE on a so called "lite" rerun

[copper bolt]

most of the playerbase isn't "new" though

[somber cairn]

1 week duration also means less time to pull ships

[copper bolt]

u get 30+ free pulls

[somber cairn]

well reruns are meant to help newer players get stuff they missed in the og run, so idk why it should penalize us

[copper bolt]

obviously this aint ideal but 1 week event = more event turn around right

[split gyro]

with the exception of the free pulls this new rerun system is terrible

[copper bolt]

it's not if they're giving away free pulls no?

[somber cairn]

this.

the free pulls help, surely, but the rest is crap

the free pulls also just barely compensate for losing an extra week to scavenge up cubes and coins to pull from just your dailies.

for it to be a true benefit they should give like 50 imo

[copper bolt]

how many extra pulls are you willing to go for in that 1 week if u also want to save?

as a newer player you have to decide right

[ionic marsh]

A 2-week run means I might get a shop ship drop while farming, thus saving points to buy something else.

[velvet adder]

idk why you have to defend the devs so much surely you can accept that newbies/vets alike have half the time to grind the normal amount of points

[somber cairn]

generally ppl pull 3/day yes? so that's 21 missing pulls compensated for with 32 pulls. which is something yes, but again, just enough to compensate.

[split gyro]

for a outdated shop, no less

[velvet adder]

and are only compensated with around 10-20% of the points that would usually be grinded

[somber cairn]

1 extra week in the event gives you +33 cubes from dailies and weeklies.

[copper bolt]

im just saying you can consider the current upsides then weigh them up rather than just vent

[velvet adder]

what upsides?

for a vet you get 32 builds for what? nothing

[copper bolt]

see, this is my point. Just not thinking about them. Or realising them

[velvet adder]

there is no upside for a vet

[split gyro]

halfing time but not doubling all rewards across the board. man

[velvet adder]

ok i get 1 free cube extra a day because i use a ticket 7 free cubes while i have to slave away grinding 2x as much for nothing in the shop

[somber cairn]

also again i should mention reruns are supposed to be more for new players to let them obtain what they missed, so it doesnt matter if most people arent new, reruns should be designed with new players in mind.

the free pulls? good idea. everything else? not really.

[split gyro]

we made a loss with this new system.

[dapper bane]

It's a good rerun i think

[velvet adder]

idk why im even doing this event, nothing in the shop is worth buying, at all

[split gyro]

no skin off my back, if they keep reruns like that I just ignore them. rather invest my oil into 12-4

[somber cairn]

also the shop not giving pr4 prints is just a slap to everyone, both old and new

[copper bolt]

then u can have a free week rather than burn out

[ionic marsh]

Well, this is my first run, so I'll at least farm enough for Chapa and Minsk. And maybe some oil and coins.

[velvet adder]

good for me sorry newbies, have fun burning out grinding 2x as hard

[somber cairn]

i suppose it's free protocore if nothing else, but ehh

cant believe i waited since november for this dumpster fire

[split gyro]

bad news for me. means we basically get less rewards now as players. with these terrible reruns

[somber cairn]

ill admit tho that a lot of my annoyance actually came from the missile change, and the event being designed poorly is just the icing on the top that makes me full blown pissed

[north wave]

Math is hard eh

[velvet adder]

yeah if they really are planning on keeping prints like this and it isnt a mistake then it halves the number of event bps we get now

[somber cairn]

yeh i miscalculated but once you add in comms then its true

i easily get 60+ cubes/week so yepyep

[north wave]

32 pulls = 64 cubes nearly double what people gain in a week plus 64k free coins and I ain’t getting 30 cubes a week from comms

[split gyro]

not like arrays are super rare right now we get even less

[somber cairn]

well skill issue then

[velvet adder]

yeah half arrays too until they catch up to the most "recent" reruns

[north wave]

In other words, this literally helps newbies

[somber cairn]

i dont feel helped

[split gyro]

so in 3 years we can have a rerun with a current event shop

[somber cairn]

1 less week to grind for gear bps and the event shop, with a very minor bonus in first time clear rewards

anyway as i said the free pulls are the only decent part of this event and even then they just barely compensate a week of cube grinding for me personally

this could all be fixed pretty easily by either doubling all rewards gained from event maps on every run, or simply halving shop price + doubling exclusive gear bp drops

[fierce ember]

which is the only good thing in all of this as of now,it feels more like an excuse to rush more UR events then actually trying to be helpful to new people,but rolls are not everything

[somber cairn]

oh yeah and can we get pr4 prints...

[eternal bronze]

honestly

it makes me think, cuz like how much they fucked up in a single update

[split gyro]

as said, they can keep reruns like that. I just ignore them from now on then. not investing more time to grind for less attractive rewards

[eternal bronze]

nobody with a common sense would allow this in the first place

hell actually someone that plays the game

[split gyro]

oh and yes, new players have to grind for event points to buy (I think) 5 tickets for pulls. so even more grind for this so called "lite" event

[somber cairn]

id rather they not keep reruns like that since i need them

[eternal bronze]

its hard to think that a dev saw this and thought "oh our players will totally like this change trust"

[split gyro]

didn't even consider the tickets in the event shop. almost doubles the grind then. I wouldn't call this helpful for anyone

this really looks like an excuse to go fullspeed ur, ur, ur now

[somber cairn]

tickets shouldve been free i know most are but selling some in the event shop is poop

[split gyro]

I think the tickets alone add another 2.5k. so more than a day worth of first clears

just bad

[somber cairn]

you can only even use them in this event so idk why itd be bad to just hand them out freely without needing a grind.

[split gyro]

maybe "lite" means something else at manjuu hq

[eternal bronze]

lite=ripped off

[split gyro]

lite= double the grind for less rewards

[fierce ember]

my issue with all of that is that tickets on their own arent a bad idea
problem is that tickets were supposed to compensate for just more URs per year,not for making the event itself half of the time-span
and that brings more issues then it solves

[split gyro]

tickets are literally the only good part of the new system. rest is poo.

and even that is bad with tickets locked behind the event shop

[fierce ember]

i could get down with all of the "lets make ultra rare not so ultra rare" and more events with them,even if i dont like it,but not with a price of other events please?it just piles up

[drowsy harness]

If you are a player with a maxed out canteen and you use the free 4k oil weekly supply for farming, the loss of a week for light reruns is actually really bad for events with good farmable gear, like the Chapgun is with this. You're missing out on nearly 18k oil that you could have used to farm the Chapgun

Haven't seen anyone mention how badly the loss of a week affects farming gear tbh

[fierce ember]

not even that,i assume that oil per week thing+oil cap is a pre-measure to all of the speed-up rather then being nice bonus,which is okey,sure,i can get behind that even if i slightly dont like it
loss of one week means loss of TIME,people actually spread their grind through the two weeks and could choose when they wanned to do it,even if we kinda actually got some-what of a compensation of resources due to all of the bonuses from past year changes but
loss of time is loss of time you cant replace it

[split gyro]

oh right. I didn't even consider gear grind. makes it even worse

[tall birch]

Manjuu, you literally just made PR2 researchable with coins, what possible reason could we have to grind for PR2 blueprints?

[somber cairn]

this this this

[split gyro]

because of course, did anyone really expect manjuu to double drops and drop rate? lmao no

[velvet adder]

im ngl i thought theyd still be 2 weeks long

[somber cairn]

i mentioned it indirectly when saying gear bp droprate should be doubled

[split gyro]

no. we need to go faster for 5 ur events a year. 4 new and 1 rerun

[velvet adder]

when they said 1 week i was like oh everything is halved now

how wrong i was

[split gyro]

look at you, expecting a good decision

[somber cairn]

well i suppose oilcap partially compensates...kinda? maybe they should halve the oil cap as well so we can run double the stages for the same oils?

[drowsy harness]

[somber cairn]

ofc that makes it even more grindy for lite event so best way is to just double drops

[split gyro]

we made a big loss with this new crappy rerun system. gear grinders, pr grinders, everyone

[drowsy harness]

The obvious solution would be to just double the drops instead of halve the oil cost, because halving the oil cost means you have to farm even harder

[somber cairn]

yeah

[split gyro]

all this "lite" rerun system does, is condense an even more hardcore grind into one week. so much for helping new players

[somber cairn]

mind you if they halved the oil cost and then sent everyone 1000 2x high efficiency plans, that would be a workaround they could do pretty quick hotfix prolly

[drowsy harness]

It'd be killing two birds with one stone

It'd fix the event points and the farmable gear issue

[somber cairn]

either way the current implementation is pretty bad and something must change

[split gyro]

either change it or players just ignore reruns now. at this point, why even have them then?

[fierce ember]

just....dont cut the event in half?easy fix?UR and that profit can wait,really

[vestal escarp]

just unlock all maps

[split gyro]

really not worth to invest even more time into a rerun for less rewards. not even arrays. you know, the super common resource

[vestal escarp]

and let the people grind whatever map they want

[split gyro]

oh right and that. I don't feel the less clears required to move to next stage. it still takes such a long time

[vestal escarp]

hopefully tho this is not going to be the way forward for reruns and more of just a testing

[split gyro]

that test epically failed then

[vestal escarp]

yeap clearing it to reach the stage you want to farm is fine but now that there is only one week, and a lot more things to grind, that is going to be an ehh

and the prints in the shops needs to be changed. having series 2 only in the shop is stupid to say the least

[fierce ember]

there was a suggestion to just bring back maps you cleared for a rerun and for an archive,so you wont be having to clear them twice,but doesnt seem like we are getting it

[split gyro]

its even stupider knowing that people can just coins to enhance pr2 now. you know, coins you get a LOT more of at 12-4

[somber cairn]

oh yeah, if it could be changed to only need 1 clear to 100% every map that'd be nice too

[copper bolt]

hopefully it's a bug and not something that comes with this new type of short rerun since iirc, almost all if not all reruns updated the prints to the latest season

[vestal escarp]

yeap hopefully its just devs still in CNY mood

[somber cairn]

yeah as the first one of its kind i expected some turbulence but this failing is...kinda sad

[vestal escarp]

probably one of the most negatively received updates of AL in a while

[somber cairn]

hopefully they wont ignore feedback tho i can cope with this crap rerun if all the others fix the issues

[vestal escarp]

and then aux prints for missiles. please change that for all servers as well.

[somber cairn]

the missile thing lol...refund shouldve been universal plates, and furthermore, additional compensation of extra plates to compensate for the inconvenience

[vestal escarp]

or just dont refund at all, change but whatever people upgraded, stays upgraded

[split gyro]

the missile change is another baffling decision. why in the world no torpedo plates? of course we use aux plates, the most commonly demanded resource.

[somber cairn]

like gee thanks if id known i wouldnt have +13ed my s4g now i cant +13 my missile again

[fierce ember]

doing it right the first time would be better
would prevent all of the backlash on a small detail that felt like a big mess

[vestal escarp]

rumour has it that CN got mad cause they got aux and we got gun plates

[tall birch]

We need more general parts as it is, I've played every day since open beta started and I still have to run some aux equipment at +6

[somber cairn]

yeah this, albeit a small compensation for changing it would still be warranted

[split gyro]

this game really needs a better plate flow.

torp plates rot in cellar while aux plates are the hot shit in town

and of course, the game isn't like "yeah, let us give you more aux plates as compenastion"

[vestal escarp]

dont usually complain about the game but this time it really feels like they fucked up pretty hard with the light rerun.

[somber cairn]

yepyep

first time devs actually disappoint me

[vestal escarp]

also its fine to not compensate, but why change it in the first place?

[split gyro]

I mean compensate as in give more aux plates in general

[somber cairn]

the livestream in december gave me concerns but i was hoping they'd be addressed, in the end, it ended up worse than i thought

[split gyro]

torp plates just rot in our basements

[vestal escarp]

but yea some things that needs to change with the light rerun is the clearing and the rewards.

[split gyro]

the lite rerun system is one of the worst changes the game has made... maybe ever

[vestal escarp]

light rerun has heavier grinding and rushing than normal

I much rather they made it 2 weeks or no clearing, no new ships and all is fine as a concept. gacha is great, other things not so great

[split gyro]

I just don't understand why the devs didn't follow a logical thinking process here. "so we cut the time in half, but... we don't double all the rewards across the board?" And the "people surely love outdated shops" one

wouldn't be surprised if D3 still gives a lousy 180 for a normal clear. would make it even worse

[reef tinsel]

The problem is they have pretty much doubled our grind with this light rerun + major event at the end of this month

but they didnt double the rewards

[split gyro]

oh right and that. maybe even a UR event. first time I am legit disappointed with this game.

[somber cairn]

and don't forget less break weeks

[vestal escarp]

oh well guess there is a first time for everything. hopefully the devs see the issue with this one and just update it

AL devs are quite open to listening to the community so im sure things will get better next rerun

[cursive vale]

Given this is the first time we have EVER gotten a rerun like this.
It is likely they will modify how future reruns will play out.

[vestal escarp]

hopefully

[split gyro]

they better. or reruns are dead to me. just terrible

how this update went through will forever remain a mystery

[cursive vale]

[fierce ember]

my general feedback about all of this situation,trying to be as constructive as possible

1)change missle from aux to torps and think about those kinds of decision better
majority of players were saying that torps/mg would be the most logical decision and what was done feels like a person behind this doesnt play their own game
do not make things worse with equipment balance,its already not in best shape you only need torp parts only for specifically torpedo-based vanguard while aux parts are used by every single ship regardless

2)do NOT cut reruns in half,time is a precious resource and you cant replace it with currencies or multipliers,dont even try
3)make it possible to purchase infinite(or just very large) amount of roll tickets through grind of event points,if you could replace 50% of cubes needed on events with tickets from grinding this would not be an issue with your intentions to print more URs
since they are gone after event this should not be a problem

correct me if i am wrong on the maths
but currently you get 171 worth of stable cube income (3+6+9+12)(monthly log-in)+3*31(daily)+12 *4(weekly))
which if we include in some random drops would be 2 months needed to save up for UR in worst-case scenario (which i have been through) and 200 cubes worth of one month as breathing room on everything else,which would be about 3 banners
obviously 100 rolls over 3 banners is not even close to enough for newer players
not even accounting a need to roll on permanent banners which actually exist and also ignoring UR reruns

for older players its less of an issue since we have quite a bit of stock due to different means

4)do not forget/be afraid of updating older events with oil cap and all of the other stuff,we still have no oil cap on archives
by the time event gets a rerun quite "few" things change(when its literally 12-20 month) and it should be accounted for

[split gyro]

there is no point to me to grind even more for less attractive rewards, that's what I mean. Shops is terrible, clear rewards are terrible, everything. The only good thing are the tickets. and some are locked behind even more grind with a cost of, I think, 2500 event points in the shop

that doesn't even factor in gear grinders that have half the time now without ANY compensation

[velvet adder]

yeah theyre 500 the same cost as a general bp

[ionic marsh]

time is a precious resource and you cant replace it with currencies

Ace 👍🏼

[north wave]

are pr2 prints in shop typo or not?

[copper bolt]

who knows, historically reruns have had updated pr prints for the latest season but this is the first rerun of its type

[eternal bronze]

so they made reruns worse

check

[burnt perch]

they need to reduce the points required for exchanging things in the shop, x5 and x3 isn't enough to compensate for an entire week of grinding

[somber cairn]

yknow manjuu if you keep giving me this amazing banner luck i'll have no choice but to forgive you even for this mess of an event...

still though, i do hope you improve the next lite rerun even if you assuaged my grievances by bribing me like this

[copper bolt]

just remember not everyone grinds like a madman and clears most of the shop

the more you play, the less "good" this rerun event is

not ideal but it's not that bad

[somber cairn]

the shop is less a concern than gear bps honestly, you got 50% less time to grind for those.

[uneven jewel]

this lite reruns don't feel very lite. 32 pulls are not a lot for most people. vets just take the small gift and try to get the 1-2 leftover ships or build for medals - for people who have their first try at the pool it's just a minor amount with regular luck. and by cutting the time in half without adapting shop prices you're just in a frantic hurry to get grinding. it's not lite, just stressful for newer/not established players, I'd assume. there are some nice ideas though from the concept and the feedback. e.g., making the tickets farmable. might be a win-win as it might make some people whale for oil, as they can get drops/bps/exp + farm some builds. overall not terrible, but definitely a lot of space for improvement

[fluid grotto]

nice rerun just need more coggies reward

[velvet adder]

since i’m typically pretty critical, i just wanted to say that the new An Shan skin you guys posted on twitter is definitely one of the best yet. love it and can’t wait to buy it

[hearty crane]

If they run more NEW events, we actually get more though...

[hearty crane]

Make it torps for all, problem solved...

[unique arrow]

I'm malding because I spent all my universals from the last event and cruise rewards on MG parts to max those missiles. I can't keep up on general parts and usually struggle to even get enough blues to get something to +6, and then I usually barely have any purple general parts. I was enjoying using the DDGs but it's gonna be a long time until I can get their missiles back up

[scenic lodge]

You're in the same boat as me. At this point, I won't ever be using the DDGs simply because of the requirement for general plates. There's literally no point. And before I hear the "Buh! They're BiS vans against light armor! Buh!" statements, thanks but no thanks, I'll use ships that aren't squishy whom I actually have +10 weaponry for.

If anything, they should've been upgraded using TRP plates, given how their damage is based off the TRP stat. Like, why are they mandated as general parts now?

[unique arrow]

They replace torpedos and use torp stat, makes sense to me. But I have hundreds of torp parts and I wager a lot of other people do too and they didn't want to make it that easy

I assume the general is because they can go main fleet or VG

[cursive horizon]

Thanks for giving me these Shipbuilding tickets and then saying nothing about what they're for! Very helpful description.

[hearty crane]

Click on them? Like other items... it's all in the description.

"A limited construction ticket for use during the "Northern Overture" event. Removed after the event ends."
Seems pretty clear to me

[cursive horizon]

I did look earlier, but I must have misunderstood. This is somehow even worse, so we have limited tickets for building with?

[fleet salmon]

There's "Shipbuilding" in the name

[cursive horizon]

So we have yet another gate to building?

[hearty crane]

Why don't you try them first?

[compact moat]

no? tickets just give free builds, you can use cubes as you wish if you run out

[bold python]

now since Overture mini-game of decrypting is not available - Memory section shows 31/32 and you cant get 32th if you didn't played Overture 2 years ago... So it stays incomplete forever.

[cursive horizon]

If it said this that would've been a lot clearer than try them and find out.

In any case, appreciate the explanations. I have all the ships from the event last time, so I was thinking they'd be for something else.

[compact moat]

If i had a single complaint its that the daily missions and SP mission havent been adjusted to be 2x of the initial run to compensate for half the rewards from those sources

[somber cairn]

the free builds is to help new players

[cursive horizon]

Help they certainly need, I simply misunderstood their function and thought they'd be something event related like the keys we had to do SP mode from Bristol's fight. I stand by the notion that they should have said "Can be consumed to build a ship for free" in the description, though.

[split seal]

There should be UR reruns

[copper nest]

there will be

[hearty crane]

We're coming up on 18 months for Dreamwaker's, it wont take long anymore...

[somber cairn]

yeah the description could use some work, i agree lol

[old monolith]

They could do that, or maybe the players could just hit the build button after getting one and understand

[vapid fable]

Just wanted to add another voice to the pile to express general dissatisfaction with changing Missiles to use Aux, makes 0 difference for balance and uses a more scarce resource for no discernable reason. My two +10 missiles are now only +6 because I used my purple Aux plates elsewhere and this is a totally unnecessary feel bad moment

[wheat yoke]

+1

[split gyro]

Should the game keep reruns like this I just skip them. Going through the stages still takes damn ages. Even though it supposedly was shortened with how many clears you need to get to next stage. This new rerun system is so unbalanced and quickly cobbled together. Everything was said about it already. Poor shop, poor point reward distribution, horrendous amount of time needed to get through all maps and actually get points.

And absolutely no compensation at all for gear grinders. Nothing. Have fun grinding gear in half the time without any help or compensation. All this new rerun system did was condense an absurd amount of grind into one week. Point rewards weren't doubled. And SP was completely untouched. Normal clears still yield pathetic x1 regular rewards. It's just... so bad. I am shocked how poor this new system is.

The one and only good part are the tickets. And even those are questionable. 32 pulls. With average luck this is barely helping. And of course some are locked behind the event shop. So more grind, please. And yes, of course some are timegated as well.

[hearty crane]

It seems this "light rerun" required half the original points to get all cogchips.
Seeing all of you here are addicts, I figured you'd might want to know that...

[split gyro]

yes the devs halved the milestones... rest is unbalanced. The halving of the milestones I appreciate. That's how it should be for all the systems

half the points or double your rewards. Not this... weird system. that at the end of it is a loss for the player

and as said, grear grinders are completely left in the rain here.

[jolly jacinth]

I’d like to suggest a third Dorm floor. Make it work similar (but opposite) the Second floor. Where the second floor gives no exp but enhanced mood regeneration, I’d like a third floor that gives no mood regeneration but extra exp. it could use the same food items the first floor uses, but use its own gauge. This would stop some people with “elixir hoarding” issues (where you save the ultimate items for the final boss and then never use them anyway) from just holding onto Fish soup and Full Course meals forever like I do by making them want to use the higher exp dishes for the dorm floor that will give ships an extra boost in base exp gain

I personally would feed my third floor nothing but full course meals and fish heads if I knew it was going to be used with an extra exp modifier in place, for those ships I really want to level but don’t have time to level

[split gyro]

the dorm lost a lot of appeal with exp tickets and exp reductions to reach 120. exp gain for the dorm should be buffed

exp tickets in particular outpace the dorm. even for super high level players

[jolly jacinth]

Exp tickets aren’t great though for people who don’t play too often. The dorm is a set and forget passive exp bonus, which far outshines the exp tickets for people like me who don’t play often enough to earn copious amounts of tickets

[split gyro]

that's true. but anyway I agree that the dorm should receive some attention. and the idea of exp bonus but no mood gain is great. I think last time dorm was touched in any way was with its second floor introduction.

[jolly jacinth]

When Belfast asks me to add screenshots, am I just done at that point? Or is there a way to skip the step?

[copper nest]

just send text "x" or "none" or whatever

[jolly jacinth]

I’ve only ever reported players or things that have screenshots lol

Thanks

Feedback for third dorm floor submitted~ Really hope this one gets some dev thought

[modest island]

adding on to this plz make second dorm floor free, and have third dorm floor cost gems

[jolly jacinth]

I’d even be okay with a toggle switch for the second floor to allow a user to either pick rest or workout, so the second floor could boost mood with no exp or boost exp with no mood

[north wave]

make skip cutscene skip the whole thing, i hate having to sit through decisions on the cutscenes on 2 year old events

[fluid grotto]

think they need to fix coggies issue first before adding more source of exp

[cursive horizon]

Because discouraging greater clarity in the game itself is apparently the only solution. "Try it and find out" is not helpful in the slightest. We've been trying to get the devs to be more in-depth with explanations, not less so. One need only look at the EN patch notes to see the problem.

[old monolith]

They literally remove your ability to construct using cubes and coins until you've spent them. I just don't see what more you could possibly ask for

My complaint is that they don't give nearly enough. Before, reruns gave a week advance notice and 2 weeks long. That's 3 weeks to farm coins for pulls. Reducing that down to 1 week and giving 32 free pulls using these tickets is like having your legs removed for a race, but they give you a 10 meter head start

[somber cairn]

fully agree with that yepyep

[indigo holly]

Make Missiles use TRP plates

[stone valley]

Yes, please. I was already kinda annoyed that it used up main gun plates, but when I saw they used AUX Plates I literally Im always struggling to +7 and above my aux gears and I have been playing since May 2019, and I grind ALOT. My missile was at +9 and it’s at +6 now due to that stupid update and I struggle to get it past. A lot of my aux gears stopped at +6 just because I’m always scarce of that material.

[fluid grotto]

memes

[slate monolith]

Honestly he has a point there

[velvet adder]

Why does it goes to commissions and I did 2 exercises but did not count in the event

[fluid grotto]

probably mistranslation

wait till you finished a commission and check again

[velvet adder]

I have mixed feelings about how this entire light event...

[indigo holly]

its not a "light event" its a rerun of a full event, unless ur just referring to the manjuu chocolate thing

[somber cairn]

it's a lite rerun so uh, it's a light event

[indigo holly]

its not a light rerun

its identical to the original event with free pulls added

this is just how reruns will be from now on

[fluid grotto]

not identical

[hearty crane]

We were told NO was next rerun with the last rerun though... which was in December.

[primal yew]

More dorm floor when

[hearty crane]

EN keeps saying that, but that's not what was actually stated. The whole "1UR per year" all over again. They said some reruns would be light. Personally I would not count on Dreamwaker being light.

[old monolith]

Just because we knew which, doesn't mean we knew when

You misunderstood my point

[somber cairn]

and 1 week shorter, and point milestone halved with 28 rewards instead of 39, and 5x/3x first clear instead of 3x/2x...very identical

[vast kelp]

nice implementation of this rerun imo. faster way to get ships for those who dont have them and not too much of a nuisance for players who already have NO ships

[agile flower]

i personally think this event is dogshit. bad ships, pr2 prints and vg guns.

[fluid grotto]

the dd gun is good

[sand plank]

Anyone suggested a "Happy Birthday" function before?

[ornate basin]

[naive wasp]

not having updated pr bp's for this event rerun is fairly agitating, i've already got my p1 and p2 ships maxed so these bp's are next to worthless since it takes 6 series 2 bp's to get 1 series 3/4, not including ur bp's

[tawdry kite]

I dont think this is the place

[ornate basin]

@indigo holly @agile flower @somber cairn feedback only please, not general chat

[indigo holly]

Missiles should upgrade with Torpedo plates not General

[wheat yoke]

Can players who have already participated in reruns gain the ability to not see the cutscenes by default?
It's so annoying I need to slog throught again on an event story I already participated and it doesn't help this specific one has so much parts you can't simply skip.

For people who never participated in a rerun event, it's fine since it tells the story and actually covers why the event happens, but for anyone and everyone that already cleared the maps should not even get these anymore, we already have it on the archives recorded. This isn't just an issue on just major/1week event reruns, same for like free skin reruns, minigames, etc.

[ionic marsh]

So, just out of curiosity:

If I've gotten 100% + 3* on certain maps of an event, and it reruns in the future, do I retain that progress?

Because, given the new light rerun format, having to 100% all over again just to get to SP would suck hard.

[ornate basin]

that would be for #gameplay-help not here, if you are unsure before making feedback, ask before making it

since this channel isnt a help desk, we want to keep this channel as clean as possible

[ionic marsh]

Are you referring to my question?

[ornate basin]

yes, because no feedback here should be a question

[ionic marsh]

Okay, got it. But I asked that first because I do have a feedback to follow up with:

Just let us auto from the outset. Please. "Get 100% first" is just arbitrary.

[somber cairn]

reduce rerun event clears needed for 100% to 1 per map

[ionic marsh]

Honestly, just remove the percentile thing entirely if possible.

At least King's Raid doesn't make me manual each of its hundreds of stages several times each before I can auto. (Plus it actually allows auto-repeat on a stage.)

[tawdry kite]

While i think having shorter reruns to make room for more new content (if that is the intended goal behind such design) is a great thing, I think this first implementation is a pretty poor one. To elaborate:

-Having halved milestone is great considering half time, though going forward the Event shop could use some help so it's easier to buy the "important" (prints, gear, ships and cogs) in that timeframe, the daily bonus points help but its not enough to cover the whole missing week for most.

-Free build support ticket are a step in the right direction, though if the consequences of having more small reruns is more event limited construction than before in the same time frame, they do little in their current implementation towards helping players completing the event banners. 32 builds for about 4-5 ships per rerun is a low amount. Having less free tickets but removing the cap to buy in shop (while implementing the point made just above) would be a decent compromise in my opinion, since if things are headed towards a faster paced event schedule, it would be very hard for a newer player to establish a healthy cube base to pull for event banners.

-More of a minor complaint but if there could be some rate up of gold gear prints that are farmable in the event maps it could also help alleviate the pressure of players who usually want to grind for multiple completed items over the event's duration.

Apart from that, "lite" reruns could be great if it means shortening the timeframe between an initial event in its rerun in the long term.

[copper bolt]

you could just save 2x loggers for farming event gear only

maybe that was the reason they introduced them in the first place

[tawdry kite]

2x loggers wont magically make a week worth of oil pop out of nowhere

[copper bolt]

fair enough, though i doubt most players grind the event to the ground if you know what I mean right

[tawdry kite]

this one maybe not, but an event like mirror involution that has gold rudder prints would feel bad for a newer player with current format, since the item is very valuable

[copper bolt]

the weekly 4k oil pack also alleviates that too somewhat, although it's only 1/4 of the natural oil generation at max level

for a newer player, they probably wouldn't be able to farm that event very much anyway since they wouldn't be able to 1:1 D3 at that time

[tawdry kite]

i agree with your points, but in the end the event gear farm still received a pretty substantial nerf as a result of this new format, and could use a small amount of help, ig not much, like a mission that gives a few prints over the course of the event

[copper bolt]

yep

it's just it affects such a small % of the playerbase, the devs will have to weigh up whether the advantage hard grinders get that increases the gap between old and newer players is worth it

since most people do not grind enough times to get more than just the shop copy of the event limited weapon

[fluid grotto]

idk been hearing new players farming catapult

[copper bolt]

yeah, you hear about things when they aren't usually the norm. No one would say anything if it was just the normal thing to do right?

same way u usually only hear about "bad" news and not "good" news

[somber cairn]

well by that logic there's nowhere near enough of them, you get 70 a month max i think (30 opsi 40 from weekly packs). pretty sure most ppl do well over 70 runs in an event for gear.

[copper bolt]

same way if u think playing more than 20-30min a day on AL is normal, i'd highly doubt it

[somber cairn]

maybe manjuu can fix this by sending more 2x plans in mails on lite event 100 should be solid

[tawdry kite]

Well its okay i didnt expect them to get everything right on the first try, though I hope we're not the only ones that find this a bit disappointing and they rethink a bit how they do light reruns

[copper bolt]

you underestimate how casual most players are ari

[tawdry kite]

The PR prints being only season 2 dont even bother me that much, ~~though if its the norm going forward ~~

[somber cairn]

well to help casual players, make reruns 2 weeks again so they have more time to participate and finish the event

problem solved

[tawdry kite]

they can still have 1 week rerun and improve based on feedback

[somber cairn]

sure but 1 week rerun hurts casuals

[copper bolt]

yep, imo, it honestly isn't that bad as people are making it out to be

[ornate basin]

[somber cairn]

i mean it's tolerable doesnt mean we shouldnt send feedback on how to improve it okay

[copper bolt]

im not saying don't send it

[viscid moon]

Might it be possible to set it so EX lines override any skin, instead of just the base skin? Maybe make it an option

[somber cairn]

yes yes yes please

[fluid grotto]

exactly why its hurt casuls even more cus it cuts their farming time by half with their limited daily play time.
they can just make the multiple pts lasts for like first three sortie of the day along with double drop. save the trouble of sending double thingy item and to prevent hoards.

[somber cairn]

yeah just double the drops easy solution

[fluid grotto]

only for like first 3