game-feedback

[frigid yacht]

Winter/spring of 2020 was the best time of AL, hands down. I highly doubt that pace is sustainable though.

[somber cairn]

way better than missing tons of ships due to no breaks

i fully agree

this is a solid compromise

i disagree bc i want to have the chance to obtain the ships w/o waiting for wishing well

[frank lodge]

No. Archive mean it's already permanent. Nothing is lose actually. On the other hand, content and permanent addition delay is even worse

[somber cairn]

especially since i need to use my wishing wells on already-archived, permanent, no-rateup ships i want. so i cant afford to have that pile up as well

[somber cairn]

missing rateup means having to wait for wishing well for any reasonable chance to get a ship you want

you are not thinking from new player perspective

you can dump 700 cubes into perma banner for say, nagato, and have extremely low chance to get her, bc no rateup. archive rateup is extremely important.

it's a second chance for new players

[frank lodge]

also from newer player perspective, it's also suck to wait for year longer than other servers

[somber cairn]

year longer = time to save up cubes to actually get the ships during rateup

they should pick up the pace slightly, but shoving archives into dead weeks shouldnt happen more than like once every 2 months imo. u gotta pace it properly

[frank lodge]

once every 2 month is actually good enough. 1-2 times every year on the other hand, is suck (that's en current pace, which is slow af).

Also, delay older content even longer always come with problem, like affect their newer event schedule (it was actually happened).

[cursive horizon]

I'm sorry but that's simply not true. When I was new I was extremely grateful for the slow times and catch-up breathers. Having new content constantly meant we could never relax or take our time.

[drowsy harness]

This is ignoring the fact that SR tickets are a thing that exists. Were EN to be fully caught up to JP and CN on War Archives, you would have a guaranteed manner of getting a ship you want much quicker than it is currently, with them being added to SR tickets. EN has already lost out on ships that were on the JP and CN SR tickets due to our slower archives scheduling, iirc.

[nova girder]

Well the permanent wishing well with some sort of caveat (change once per month or only after acquiring ship?) would be the cure.

[somber cairn]

except only certain ships get into selector. nagato has been archived for ages afaik and has never shown up

[somber cairn]

same here, im a new player 3 months old and this current content pace is pretty solid. we could afford to have faster pace of archives, but not too fast

[frank lodge]

This. Thanks for telling that. Many people don't realized that.

[drowsy harness]

One example of a ship not being added in doesn't invalidate the fact that event ships from old events that have already been archived are eventually added onto the SR tickets.

[frank lodge]

Malin are already in SR ticket since 2020. It just en not get it till only recently because of slow af archive and rerun schedule

[hearty crane]

Do I need to remind the "remove rate-up reeee" people AGAIN it was ratio'd to hell in collected feedback. Nobody but like 5 people here want that, but those want it HARD for some reason.

Not really, EN and JP always have different selections, with them prefering the Cranes and EN stuffing Enterprise everywhere.

[frank lodge]

can't expect better from dumb majority, I guess

[drowsy harness]

That people want the rate up removed is just a symptom of a problem, not the actual problem. Were the War Archives coming out at a reasonable schedule, say every 2-3 months, I would argue that there'd be no people here that would be arguing that removing the rate up would be a good idea. As it is now, War Archives are not being added at a regular pace, and so you see the symptoms of it, with people asking for the rate ups to be removed.

[nova girder]

The perma pool is going to be heck of a mess soon (arguably already is) so more prominent WW is pretty much a necessity to even hope to get what you want from it. And it's also why they should shuffle the off-banner pool during events, and hey, add new ships to medal shop even.

[drowsy harness]

You can have both a rate up and a reasonable pace, which is what I personally want to see, not one or the other.

[hearty crane]

One of them we're missing doesn't even HAVE rateup since no buildable ships. We're pretty much caught up at this point already if we slot the Formidable somewhere...

[frank lodge]

Yeah. Other server actually use every 2-3 months schedule for archive.

[somber cairn]

"dumb" bc we disagree with u ok

[somber cairn]

ye i agree 2-3 month is fine

my concern was ppl seemed to want 2020 breakneck pace again like 2 archives per month.

maybe we all actually agree here and just misunderstand what ppl mean by 'fast' and 'proper pacing'

personally id like formidable archive in february

[drowsy harness]

I would hope that no person here would seriously want anything like that, especially given the new 4 URs a year

[somber cairn]

yea i think i misunderstood what u guys meant by fast

and i panic bc theres so many ship i want from archive

[hearty crane]

Which ones? Cause all we're "missing" right now are Polaris, not exactly wow material.

[fleet salmon]

How many major and minor events are we missing again?

[nova girder]

Next week we get Polaris while JP/CN gets Littorio/Formi event, no?

[drowsy harness]

Moonlit Overture is another

[somber cairn]

empyreal tragicomedy

[fleet salmon]

So one major and which minors?

[somber cairn]

also i think the idea is they can speed up archivals like for example instead of 18 months until ryuuhou's event archive, could be 9-12 months instead. quicker turnover

[hearty crane]

It has no buildable ships

[frank lodge]

Rerun of Tartu and Eskimo

[hearty crane]

Not Archives

[frank lodge]

It's true for still being "missing", though

[drowsy harness]

Astoria, Quincy, and Vincennes are still from it regardless

[hearty crane]

Yes, but it doesn't need a special week since the ships are just not buildable, so the "rate-up or not" discussion on it is moot.

[hearty crane]

Has Eskimo even rerun on JP/CN, no listing of it on the wiki anywhere...

[fleet salmon]

Then they could do that thing I talked about once and we'd catch up with major events. Then they could combine each minor w/ gacha ships with a minor w/o gacha.

We'd be done in few months

[hearty crane]

I think that's what most of us kinda want... but the "remove rate-up" people here are much louder.

[frank lodge]

I only recall some people in local m community (not discord) showed mini event rerun way before tartu, somewhere in 2021 in jp layout UI. I don't really remember which one, though.

[hearty crane]

Tartu was May 2021. Probably would be Z2 rerun in Nov 2020, but we did get that one.

[timber grotto]

Faction medals for 36 ships plox

[somber cairn]

more coggies

[raw quest]

did you already send it to belfast bot

[stone valley]

man’s repeated this everyday and not even submitting it

[frigid yacht]

Of course not. That would take actual effort.

[copper nest]

To be fair #collected-feedback has no new stuff in since few days and there's at least one confirmed feedback sent

[fluid grotto]

more coggies sale

[velvet adder]

give coggies for reply and liking juustagrams

[real cobalt]

All id like to see happen with the game is having the existing upgrade item system updated so all itens can get used instead having thousands of an item just sitting there unable to be used.
Edit: Also a retrofit completion on profiles because thats a feat in its own right to get all retrofits.

[hearty crane]

Retrofits are already part of the collection %.

[copper nest]

Maybe unify iron blood tech levels, since they're weird 😐
It requires 450/900/1350/1800 instead of 300/600/900/1200 like other factions
This will add more levels without increasing required points, 1800 will be level 6 (now it's level 4 for ib)

[runic tartan]

It's bc KMS needs less ships for those points. They have the smallest roster

[copper nest]

Well players would like more tech levels but counter argument is something something event exclusive so this will do if they really can't increase required points past 1800

[runic tartan]

Not really, adding tech levels is p much easier now, since if they do make KMS similar to other factions, they'll prob have to either give same tech points for same level, or reduce amount of points gained by each ship (making it harder for newer players to unlock KMS ships in shipyard).

Though adding faction levels as a whole or reworking it a bit/adding minor factions would be nice.

Or maybe making core arrays for level 1-4 in KMS 1.5x the normal amount

[copper nest]

Anything really, system seems forgotten 😄
Also I don't really get that "b-but you can't get that much tech without events". They will eventually be permanent so calm down and just wait if you missed some 🙂

[runic tartan]

Event argument is relatively meaningless at this point, KMS used to be nearly all event locked and now we have another major one added perma, and to max out any faction you need events anyways (HMS being worse one to max out imo).

[hearty crane]

I feel if they add more KMS levels they also need to make KMS tech not x2 (same for other minor factions, and then add their tree). Of course, adjust PR requirements downwards accordingly aswell.

[nova girder]

Why would they need reduced tech points when their roster remains small?

IB bonuses are a bit of a joke anyway

[hearty crane]

Cause the reason for the massive skewed max limit/current points is because of the x2 IB (and a couple minor factions) have. If they are going to update tech might aswell fix it rather than have it be more and more trouble down the line.

[nova girder]

I don't think there can be any real trouble

Since it's just some meager bonuses with IB already heavily skewing towards some petty amounts of HP. The only way for it to be even a problem would be if they decided to add gazillion levels and make the bonuses very notable. Seems arbitrary to keep it "behind the times" so to speak.

[somber cairn]

add more dd fp

[primal yew]

unlimited special core per month plz

[slate anvil]

would like to see a debuff indicator + duration on the enemies health bar

[timber grotto]

Faction medals for 36 ships plox

[copper bolt]

u mean like type of debuff? Since currently you get that purple swirly thingy above the enemy chibi

so we'd get HP bar + some squares showing the different debuffs under it?

how would u do it for dual boss HP bars?

[somber cairn]

maybe different color swirly depending on debuff type?

and if theres multiple, show the most recent one ig

[cursive horizon]

Honestly I gave up even noticing if a buff or debuff has affected the enemy. It's always just a swirly that I have no idea the effect of.

[hearty crane]

Also since a patch long ago fire is on infinitely so that's not useful at all either (and I still don't know if that's just a graphical error they never fixed or it's actually affecting burn damage done on ships).

[fading flame]

Does anyone know if they're looking at the sorting of gear? For some reason theres a way to sort for equipped weapons but not not equipped weapons. Or am I missing it somehow?

[copper bolt]

If you go to the depot, it shows unequipped gear only until you toggle the button to show equipped gear as well.
If you go to the gear quickswap menu, there is also a toggle for equipped gear.
The same is true for normal gear swapping.

@fading flame this is what you're asking about right

[fading flame]

o jeez it is...sorry😅

Thank you

[sinful cloud]

2 things

• Make the x2 thingy stay selected after a run ends
• For the love of hell, stop telling me that the ship's mood is low every fight, I understood it the first time

[cursive horizon]

I don't know about others, but when the game tells me someone's mood is low that's a sign to stop for a while and move on to Operation Siren or another game entirely for a bit. However, I do understand the frustration in seeing a message repeatedly.

[somber cairn]

its meant to stop you from grinding with that ship. on purpose.

the game highly discourages it, as it should

mind you if they removed that warning i bet that a lot of ppl would suddenly be like "why does my ship affinity keep going down no matter what i do, it's bugged!"

[sinful cloud]

Put a toggle then, I switch them after but not ending the run just cause of it

[somber cairn]

yea maybe that work, u can send to belfast bot

[faint hinge]

Feels like morale is one of those weird carryovers from the Kancolle era that really doesn't add anything of value to the game

Esp now that academy is buffed and all your ships are level cap anyway so it's clearly not a balance consideration for how fast you level

[indigo holly]

it does affect how fast you farm PR tho

cause high morale is an exp bonus

where as low is an exp detriment

[scenic flower]

Why the New York port gives the missions almost ALWAYS? And why they are so shitty exactly in this port?
Oh, wait. Looks like I answered my question myself 🥴

[somber cairn]

NY give missions on weekdays. Also they have the best missions if you're lucky as only NY can give abyssal or hidden coordinates.

[scenic flower]

Why I'm so unlucky then? It can give such a mission maybe, but 99% they are hilarious.

And scrolling the map to the left side is always incovenient. I suggest to delete NY port and add one in Europe or something

[runic tartan]

They'll be adding missions to information iirc with tmrw's update. But even NY shop is bad

[scenic flower]

yeah, their shop is terrible too.

[somber cairn]

[nova girder]

I mean, it's the only shop with no UR print available, that alone makes it worth less by a huge margin

[somber cairn]

it's the shop for ppl just beginning opsi tbf

[copper bolt]

^ not like they're going to have 300 purple tokens anytime soon either

[somber cairn]

also UR prints lose their value once u have like 2 wyverns, theres not much to even use them on lol

[scenic flower]

torps

unlimited

[somber cairn]

quadmag does perfectly fine

[scenic flower]

no

[somber cairn]

nobody recommends converting urprint into torpprint

[scenic flower]

u just said "theres not much to even use them on"

[somber cairn]

for that matter it's cheaper to +13 a quadmag and +13 quadmag beats +10 quintmag

[nova girder]

Does it matter if it's for "beginners"? It's not like the other ports are that hard to reach and over time it just becomes less meaningful

[somber cairn]

nothing of value yes

[nova girder]

Considering you will visit the port no matter how many times you've cleared OpSi monthly

[somber cairn]

you need maybe 1 quintmag for shima and thats it lol

instead of URprint i rather they add more gold mats and plates to NY store

i agree it could use more stuff to buy but make it useful i always need electronics

4 URprint a month guaranteed is good enough anyway imo. u get more from abyssals (and please put UR AA and main gun in gearlab)

[scenic flower]

I just think everything in this game must depend on commander level. Icluding the commissions rewards, OPSI shops, monthly rewards, etc.

[somber cairn]

what do you mean

[scenic flower]

I mean, if I'm a lvl 120 commander, then I don't need the uselees commissions like "wait 5 hours to get 75 oil".

The purple and lower parts are just stacking in my inventory too.

[somber cairn]

coggies

just double the coggies from that drill comm

[fluid grotto]

but its hard for new players to catch up then

[scenic flower]

I still don't understand why they have to catch up at all.

[somber cairn]

uhh because gating too much content behind time played makes it harder to attract new players

ppl will be like "why play, youll never catch up and it's too late to join" lol

theres a balance obviously, you cant let someone get everything in a month, but they shouldnt also always be 3 years behind others

its a very good thing none of us are game designers trust me

[hearty crane]

With the new XP requirements, gold extravaganza, auto dailies, oil cap and apparently light reruns catching up is easier than ever.

[nova girder]

Eh, there's quite a few things in the game that are definitely "why would you design something like this" (for instance, pretty much purposefully bad ships out the wazoo)

[hearty crane]

If its not powercreep then they are "purposefully bad" and we complained about powercreep yesterday. There is no winning this.

[scenic flower]

Nobody will make them suffer more than now. I'm not asking to make more gates for the beginners. I'm asking to not push the beginner content on older players. Also, they can always buff both categories of players. And being X years behind oldies problem was always here. I bumped into it too when I was just started. If they want too much, they have to moderate their appetites. There's no interest in the game, when you become oldy too fast.

[nova girder]

They don't have to powercreep. But the META ships from Cruise Pass are the prime example of just outright questionable design

They're sort of forced into your dock and they're absolutely abysmal despite requiring more effort for skill leveling and reinforcing their stats

[acoustic helm]

meta ships could use their own faction tech buffs and such

[nova girder]

And due to the "no buffs/nerfs" policy they just exist as filler It's actually ok to release something as underpowered at first, but usually this is accompanied by buffs in games. Not so much in gacha.

[hearty crane]

I dont know "pressing a button 30 times for items you have 1000 of" is hard, and I prefer its skill xp over books. But yes, they really shouldn't take slots if you cannot open that slot up again.

[acoustic helm]

at this point only the SSR metas are decent, waiting to see what will theu do with UR meta

[nova girder]

Not all players have thousands of META materials, heck, I couldn't even reinforce Gnei meta to max initially.

[acoustic helm]

or a simple solution that has already been suggested.. +1dock space for research+meta ships

[scenic flower]

The most stupid thing is that you're wasting money, time and efforts to get PR ship or Meta ship, and lol, there it is. A new UR ship, that make them all suck almost for free.

[somber cairn]

yea it's a good thing imo

[somber cairn]

which beginner content

[nova girder]

But it's besides the point of the game design being off. Another example I can offer is stuff that rolls in slots rolling doubles i.e. guild contribution rolling 2x slots of coins or oil or whatever - why? Likewise in PR research you could have something like 2x rolls of 3x Cube of the SAME PR. It just makes no sense.

[acoustic helm]

its not that big of a deal. i think if they would just simply make research ship enhancement less time-gated that would be good

[somber cairn]

fully agreed, URs devalue DR/PR/meta

[nova girder]

Oh and of course, releasing stuff like UR AA/MG prints but having 0 plans to actually make them usable in the near future

[hearty crane]

I can fully agree with all 3 of those points

[somber cairn]

yea same where tf is my UR staag kai

or UR twin134 kai

or ur twin128 kai

just slap a kai on it and make it UR ez

[scenic flower]

UR aux would be okayish too

[somber cairn]

yes let me run full UR gearset. UR shells UR catapults UR toolbox

they would all take months of grind so i dont see why not

[nova girder]

I just hope Georgia gun gets added to gear lab. Finishing that through research is not happening.

[somber cairn]

yea same

at least itd solve the URgun issue. just need AA then

[scenic flower]

thats why wee need more plates

[somber cairn]

if we had more UR gear to make id agree with adding more UR plan to shop

my main issue is it feels underwhelming to get those UR plans once u got 2 wyverns and maybe 1 URmagtorp. not enough good options

u see ppl in trophy room or general flexing like 20+ unused UR plans

and sure its a funny flex but its also sad that there isnt that much to use them on

[hearty crane]

Amateurs, 21 unused general, 11 AA, 16 main, 4 torp and 5 planes here. Would be nice if they'd be useful one day.

[fluid grotto]

gold triple torps

[scenic flower]

UR triple torps

[somber cairn]

UR sextuple torps

[frail copper]

Add auto search to SOS stages.

[summer spindle]

Oil cap for war archives would be nice, would give some sort of reason to not immediately ignore new wa content

[scenic flower]

well, if you got everything from the respective event, you'll ignore the archives anyway 😩

[copper nest]

ok and?

[fierce sonnet]

not the point

[scenic flower]

Maybe adding the monthly missions or nice temporary rewards into archives would make them more attractive

[copper nest]

apart from "It doesn't affect me so I don't care"

[fluid grotto]

add coggies to archive

[hearty crane]

How often does one farm WA? Only one map on one event comes to mind. Oil cap wont help just going through the maps regularly to unlock the story. I suppose it can help if you want to try for Zuikaku or Glorious or so this way rather than gatcha.

[fluid grotto]

idk baget gun is a pretty good aux

[hearty crane]

"Only one map on one event comes to mind"

[fluid grotto]

winter crown has good exp scale and duke as drop too

[crude pasture]

before Iris archive I was farming for past events' ships, and then considered going for steam catapults from Fallen Wings

[copper nest]

farmable steam cata

[crude pasture]

yea

[fluid grotto]

in the future can farm for algeri gun also

and chapa gun

[sinful cloud]

And PR guns in about 2 years

[junior cave]

increase cog chip rewards

[somber cairn]

oil cap for war archive yes

[crude pasture]

seconding that

though, I do like my double 1:1 setup for Iris D2

which is Riche/Cassin and NJ/Reno (replaced with Helena META now)

[sinful cloud]

Firstly, why the timegate? Its seriously just your timegate boner cause it serves absolutely no purpose
Second why do you have to change one of the ships to be able to dispatch them? Pretty sure we could just update the ones we had there before

[copper bolt]

this is because u changed the equipment of one of the ships so you just wanted to update their loadout for the support?

[sinful cloud]

Yes

Well not the equiment this time but the level

I would understand the timegate part if we could actually switch the support when the boss fight in going on but nope

[runic tartan]

You just have to select same ship again

As if changing ship click on same ship you had before and you can update

[sinful cloud]

I did, the dispatch button wont work if you dont switch one of the ships

[copper bolt]

you're not allowed to swap the supports once the guild boss begins

[sinful cloud]

I know

[runic tartan]

Does work for me, though not if it's just enhancements

[sinful cloud]

It did for me a few months ago too but they screwed it up

[copper bolt]

this menu is very useful for leveling meta skills

let's you switch and check progress with ease

[charred matrix]

So basically from now on we can forget about having new swimsuit skins?

[somber cairn]

what why

it's winter you know

[sinful cloud]

That never stop them before

[charred matrix]

Reasons: 1. we didn't get new swimsuit skins this summer, while literally every other gacha got them; 2. CN server didn't get the italian swimsuit skins permanently in the shop (for obvious reasons, JP server got them). This means possible new swimsuit skins will be inaccessible for CN server and devs obviously won't bother with making them due to fears of CN playerbase rioting

[sinful cloud]

Imo they were just releasing old generico swimsuits but cant say they are worse than the bunny suit spam we had

[somber cairn]

damn so no elbe swimsuit

[charred matrix]

and sadly devs are silent on this issue (can't blame them honestly, but still...)

[sinful cloud]

Unfortunately not like they can do much, its CN laws

[copper nest]

I can, communication between decision makers and community is bad and should be improved, if they said "no swimsuit skins because we can't <reason they can't>" it would be a lot better than silence we have now

[velvet adder]

true the last swimsuit skins got banned same with a lot of characters, its why the shift to bunnysuits is a thing because theyre covered up in nettings or tights

i would prefer global got skimpier versions though

[cursive horizon]

Maybe this means we'll get more wholesome, actual clothes people would realistically wear and less "strip of cloth over nipples" or "child with heavily detailed ass" type of outfits. Bring on the business suits, the proper waitress outfits (more like Bismarck), more school outfits for the newer girls, maybe even some casual winter/downtime clothes. Shirts, jeans, shorts, coats, that kinda thing. Stuff that fits and isn't bursting open the zippers or popping the buttons.

[hearty crane]

The new skins got banned too... all of these new ones. So fwarmongering over swimsuits seems misguided

I mean if they want to... my wallet will probably be locked then though

[charred matrix]

I suggest Genshin Impact will be more fitting for you.

[copper nest]

gatekeeping?!?!?!?!?

[inner frost]

Can we remove cogs from the game already

[queen viper]

Very godly game 1000/10, can you add a special touch for Ass and Thighs?!?

[copper bolt]

u mean multiple special touch zones?

[queen viper]

Hehehe yessss

[copper bolt]

fair enough because certain skins have different special touch zones

e.g. noshiro's special touch zone is on her feet

for one of her skins

[hearty crane]

I support this, if only because that seems the only way they'll fix Murmansk's skin

[cursive horizon]

Ah yes, abandon the game I've been playing for 3 years for one I have no investment in that will probably want more money. That's a great solution!

[fluid grotto]

but i like sexy skins

[velvet adder]

everyone does from the start of the games release sexy skins were the main focus which is why i dont really understand people pushing for more casual toned down skins

its kinda what everyone signed up for

[cursive horizon]

Not really? The ratio of sexy versus not was different 3 years ago than it is today.

Also, back then the default look of the ships was less sexy so they could push the sexier outfits.

You still had your Belfasts and your Illustriouses, but you also had Kolns, Phoenixes, and Noshiros.

[velvet adder]

i mean yeah we are talking about skins

the first like 30+ skins were all swimsuit skins that were just bikinis

[fluid grotto]

didnt they make top sell skins on stream or something

can tell from there

[velvet adder]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5_VvLu5EIA made vids like this for hms at least

2/10 are casual with one being edinburgh with her skirt blowing up rest are huge cleavage

[fluid grotto]

yostar official channel :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clPhq-22FyU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6Yc6802pmM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtOiCwunhv0

yep

[copper nest]

@cursive horizon yep you're invalid I guess 🤣

[velvet adder]

i mean its not like they take feedback on skins anyway, i just prefer sexier outfits

[fluid grotto]

removing embed so not taking space

[timber grotto]

Faction medals for 36 ships plox

[narrow sage]

it's funny how people assume CN AL players are like Genshin/etc as if they would riot, we would have hit that point long before now.

[velvet adder]

add UR Soyuz into the game. k thx

[agile gazelle]

[mental stump]

Can please someone explain me what I did wrong and why I don't get them?
I have only one with Laffey somehow

[fierce ember]

#gameplay-help @mental stump

[somber cairn]

yikes

[somber cairn]

while i do want swimsuits for my favorite girls, i have to agree with this, im a big fan of cutesy skins and would like more, too.

[cursive horizon]

Really, that's all I'm asking for. I know my wording is terrible and I rub people the wrong way, but I just want more cute or normal-looking outfits. I really hoped more girls would have outfits like Bismarck, Z46, and Icarus. Cute yet functional, you know? Even Choukai's at least dressed properly even if she's posing in an innocently sexy way. For what it's worth, I think Elbe's outfit looks pretty good, just.. not a fan of that terrible squatting pose.

Sorry, that was meant to be a reply to LaffeyDrink.

[topaz otter]

add coordinates to strategic search thanks

separate cat talent levelling up and acquisition while at it

"upgrade" buttons don't even do what they're supposed to

[topaz otter]

i am seriously considering who was smoking what when designing the UX of the upgrade buttons in the cat talent menu, just make it level up a talent and the other menu always roll 4 new talents to pick from. will make the once-a-day rerolls less annoying and fix the UX while at it. win win!

[eternal bronze]

this skin is a myth at this point

[normal vine]

not sure if anyone has mentioned it yet, but: this is shit

for one, because it's on EVERY HARBOUR when the shop refreshes, so I can't see which ones have the daily missions

and it also doesn't go away even after I look at the shop

[worn mirage]

will likely go away once you've bought everything in the shop :/
as for Daily missions, they have their own tab now

[normal vine]

dunno what the point of that even is, because I check the shops every other day anyway

oh, you no longer pick them up in the harbours? maybe they should have removed the button, then

(fucken amateur hour)

[fluid grotto]

you dont need to go to port for daily mission

[marble bay]

omg, operation siren, and the game is better and better everytime.. love you dev

[nova girder]

Still waiting for being able to reduce the text boxes in OpSi by like... 90% 😂 (and the pointless camera movements)

[normal vine]

yes, I've seen that now, but I basically only use the map to move between ports and go to META fights

I end the day in a port, so the next day I open that port, check the shop, check missions, move to another port with dailies available, rinse and repeat

if they change stuff and don't tell me a) that they changed it and b) how they changed it, that throws a spanner in the works and is no bueno

[normal vine]

"better" is … debatable

[fluid grotto]

literally on patch note

[normal vine]

a) bold of you to assume that I read more than the first page of patch notes
b) doesn't mention that you CANNOT get them from ports any more

all ports just say "no missions available, check back tomorrow"

[fluid grotto]

you didnt read and blame the dev for it

alrighty then

[normal vine]

when shit changes IN GAME I expect to be informed about that IN GAME, preferably when opening said feature

they can do it when changing gear icons, after all

[fluid grotto]

no, u'd expect it on patch note

that's how it works for years

[nova girder]

It's not like it's a total overhaul or something

[nova girder]

And yes, that

[fluid grotto]

oh they do put it in game

check mate

[raw quest]

[normal vine]

also, please point out where I "blame the devs"

[fleet salmon]

Though I agree that the missions should be viewable from port or they should remove the "missions" buttons from ports

[fluid grotto]

if they change stuff and don't tell me a) that they changed it and b) how they changed it, that throws a spanner in the works and is no bueno

when shit changes IN GAME I expect to be informed about that IN GAME

[normal vine]

as in: one of those help overlays that explain new mechanics in events and such

or that tells you that <gear item> uses a different picture now

it's not like they need to code that shit from scratch, it's already there, they just need to USE IT

[somber cairn]

you have 'reduce tb guidance' on right? but yea it could be reduced more

[nova girder]

Yes, but it does almost nothing. Every time you pick one of those data nodes the camera pans to the spot... even if it's right there. Constant chatter and buggy text speed don't really help much either.

It feels like a permanent tutorial mode being applied, really

[formal oyster]

Each Opsi QoL update is very nice, this one included, keep it up.

[limber jolt]

What's the max lvl of fleet tech? So far I got 7 6 7 4

[fluid grotto]

wrong place to ask tho

[formal oyster]

Although it seems like the overview is still showing "New" on shops that you already visited but for which you didn't buy everything. Which seems to me like an oversight.
I personally don't buy the adaptive enhancers so they're always lying there in my shops, and I don't want to have a notification like there's something I accidentally didn't buy in the shop. It hinders with the actual notification I'd want for when shops are refreshed.
Please

[limber jolt]

Sorry I got the channels confused and ty

[winter hearth]

Yeah, it would be good if we could mark some stuff as seen to not trigger this notification for useless stuff

[somber cairn]

yea i want the 'new' thing removed once u visit the shop

[past ridge]

Did they really send the 20 cubes after the UR event ended? I'm not complaining but that must suck for someone who just missed pity

[somber cairn]

devs trolling

[hearty crane]

I mean, there is a rate-up going on now too.

[hearty crane]

Though its unlikely they come back and fix the stuff they broke, they have done NOTHING to fix all the errors added with their auto update. That was like May 2021?

[runic tartan]

I still have it bc I haven't bought all items yet bc am broke

I actually like it personally

Reminds me that I haven't cleared shops yet

And I def didn't misread that originally

[hearty crane]

Do people clear OPS stores? I leave the trash once the stock runs low. Hopefully "new" is gone tomorrow.

[fluid grotto]

buy everything 👌

[wheat yoke]

but ma vouchers

[fluid grotto]

clearing all abyssal/stronghold and wiping the shops will leave you with 8k voucher/month anyway, thats more than enough to buy out monthly exchange

[wheat yoke]

seriously tho, we do get a lot of repair kits for some reason--
I guess it's good I've been repairing non-stop but still have so much of it.
I did repair a few times in the port for the debuff when doing abyssals..

Ehh, I cleared everything last month and got around just 7k vouchers.

[hearty crane]

"The amount of vouchers needed to clear the shop without buying Adaptive Tuning is 10,660." Your math sucks

[somber cairn]

i got 12k vouchers last month

didnt do hm arbiter either (cant)

[wheat yoke]

Did you clear shops?

[somber cairn]

yes

[wheat yoke]

port shops I mean, Akashi's excluded

very weird then
why am I pretty low

[fluid grotto]

pretty sure it was around 7k ish

oh the new books adding 3k, sure

[somber cairn]

i post in #trophy-room proof

[fluid grotto]

going all out with your ap box will get you around 13k-15k

[somber cairn]

yeah 13k+ with hard arbiter, 11k+ with just normal

[hearty crane]

I got 11k last month. Of course didnt clear the shops since why would I waste tokens on useless items?

[wheat yoke]

I probably missed something then gonna find out what

[somber cairn]

i skipped some tunings and repair kits iirc but got most of everything

[wheat yoke]

oh, so you didn't clear shop then

[somber cairn]

i mean it's a difference of like 100 vouchers

didnt see the point when i had 350+ in all tunings

[hearty crane]

Arbiter drops pure vouchers, them?

[wheat yoke]

I killed normal and did hard until 23% hp, can't completely kill it

[somber cairn]

1k for normal and 2k for hard.

also this turned into #gameplay-help a while ago now

[hearty crane]

Talking about Arbiter does anyone else find it odd the breakpoint says "You destroyed an arbiter". We dont kill 5, we kill one, it makes no sense. Or does that only bother me?

[somber cairn]

well there are 3 arbiters arent there? just 1 per month

[wheat yoke]

It's probably a referring to the fact the Arbiters changes monthly?

[somber cairn]

storywise theres more than 1 arbiter

[fluid grotto]

clearing out loggers + ap box pretty much exceed ur need, easily doable with auto search now.
buying out every shop/exchange and still have these left over

add coggies to opsi exchange

[wheat yoke]

yeah I did that last month, I probably spent too much coins in repairing I guess?
I'll find it out and ask #gameplay-help eventually so thanks for the references.

Cog chips and arrays are nice on op si actually, surprised we don't even get those there really

[hearty crane]

No, this. Breakpoint says "arbiter eliminated" and the defeat is "eliminations". For beating ONE. No? Just me?

[wheat yoke]

I've never really noticed it now that you pointed it out

[formal oyster]

Just a typo like the bazillion ones we already have. I have more an issue with the fact that they call them "Enforcer" here. Enforcer and Arbiter being two different things

[fluid grotto]

make hard arbiter weekly reset

[formal oyster]

Make them give coggies and arrays

[fluid grotto]

500 chips and 50 array /kill

[somber cairn]

make both reset but limit UR print to 1/month and make the other ones give coggies

[hearty crane]

I rather not. I'm still not at corrossion 6 even 2 weeks in since OPS allows you to take it slowly, increasing speed now that no ecent is active. Having to sprint to Arbiter in the first week with events wouldn't be great, and remove much of OPSI's flexibility to fill dead weeks.

[somber cairn]

yea i agree just if ruus suggestion makes it in i want it for normal too

[fluid grotto]

bro its only 1 boss fight, wont take time

it's not like im asking for more stronghold

oh, just make it drop loot 4 times a month instead of weekly reset if you wanna take time to build adaptive stat 👌

[somber cairn]

yeah 4 times to kill per month is a better way

[hearty crane]

Getting 188/188/156 takes no time? But yeah, 4x a week would be better if going that route

[fluid grotto]

not really

adaptive vii usually on second day

auto search fixed most opsi problem

[hearty crane]

Auto search that fails when it finds fog of war?

[fluid grotto]

no fog on normal map so its all work out

need to semi manual on stronghold

[hearty crane]

Do you... even play OPSI? But yeah guess we need to add "Buy 5K oil item" to "just clean out shops" to counter bad design

[fluid grotto]

idk, maybe you dont play opsi?

i just secure maps and let the thingy going till my ap run out just fine

[somber cairn]

he buys the 5k i guess

[fluid grotto]

nope, just using second tab and farming cat nodes/adaptive on one map

going to non secure one everytime my recon off cooldown

[crystal rivet]

Couldn’t remove New Jersey’s background while taking pictures at her museum.

[hearty crane]

So your "no time with auto-search" is a lot of time with precise micromanagement. Noted.

[fluid grotto]

it's only one button, barely a management

[hearty crane]

Ah yes, that "go to explorable when recon is 0AP and use it" button that definitely exists...

[fluid grotto]

thats beyond the point of auto farming adaptive tho, im just saying thats what i do because im not buying the 5k oil

[hearty crane]

Farming tuning one point per map at a time is "no time at all" to you?

[fluid grotto]

it's afk farming so not really, coins/token can buy more adaptive from port which has rate up on spawning now.
never have a problem reaching require adaptive after the update really

not counting akashi rng

the point is the opsi qol update makes opsi far easier and less tedious than it used to, so props to dev

[raw quest]

[fluid grotto]

meta showdown lvl 16

[timber grotto]

Faction medals for 36 ships plox

[somber cairn]

option to choose which level meta showdown we want to do

[formal oyster]

Regarding Opsi shops, why not change the icon depending on the status of the shop ?
If it's not been visited since last shop reset : Show the "new" icon.
If it's been visited but there are still unbought items : Show a ❗ instead.

That way it pleases both the people that don't buy every item but still want the "new" notification to be tied to the actual shop reset for relevance, and those who don't buy anything because they still don't have enough tokens for it, and so still want a notification to know which shops have unbought items for them to check later on when they have enough currency to buy them.

[cursive horizon]

The main issue with any sort of symbol being shown is whether or not it goes away. Certainly don't want it to stick around.
I still don't know why the game periodically alerts me with a ❗ when Shiranui's shop updates.

Ah, I have just seen that it does not go away. This is not acceptable. We do not need a constant reminder in our face like this.

[fleet salmon]

Did you pick up the weekly oil pack?

[cursive horizon]

Yep. That's not where the notification comes from. I'll get one saying my Academy screen needs my attention, like it might for classes or oil/coins, but the ❗ is over the shop.

[fleet salmon]

Then it's weird that it doesn't go away if you visit general store, it does for me.

[fluid grotto]

i like the red mark on shiranui shop, reminds me when the shop reset
and it does go away after visited once

[cursive horizon]

Yeah, it goes away, I just wish it wasn't there to begin with. Wish we could turn a lot of these notifications off in the settings.

[slate monolith]

Did you buy stuff in Shiranui's main shop at all? If so it just means she updated her stock

[cursive horizon]

I can't remember if I bought anything before it's done it. I'll have to keep track of that next time.

[acoustic helm]

Practice mode for meta showdown

[hearty crane]

So Rental Skin 2.0 after they fixed the rental skin? 0_o
And yeah, never really seen the use of the ! on her reset myself. Toggling which indicators are active would be great, since then we can add more (like for example PR coin reset since who remembers to wait 4H? I was so glad to be done with PR1 not to remember this anymore) and it wont bother those who don't want it, and helps those who do.

[cursive horizon]

[frail shore]

More secretary slot for displaying skins, there are too many skins i want to display and 5 are not enough X<

[iron pebble]

The Daily Missions tab is a great QoL update but sadly it's useless without a Resupply tab because you still have to go to every individual blue port anyways.

[cursive horizon]

Perhaps this year we'll finally have a reason to visit the other 4 ports outside of daily missions!

[fluid grotto]

put siren boss on axis ports for coggies

[somber cairn]

put coggies in voucher shop

[scenic flower]

Would be nice to have kinda "Next" and "Previous" buttons for changing the ports without returning to the map and without extra animations. Also, placing the active fleet to the port cell whenever we enter the port area would be extremely OK too (except for the case, when there is a mission here), coz doing that manually has no valuable gameplay behind it, and brings nothing but irritation.

[eternal escarp]

Please rerun yuudachi retrofit item event

[scenic flower]

It was here just recently. Wait for one more year, I think 🥴

[velvet adder]

honestly they should just dump it in the store straight after the event

the event was just to get it free is all

[nova girder]

Yep

Pointless "you miss it, wait X period of time"

[fluid grotto]

everyships must be in perma pool

[somber cairn]

tbh they should rerun it every 6 month, UR retrofit is too gamechanging to keep it away for so long. it should rerun in march ideally, then put in shop in sep 2022

[frigid yacht]

FOMO is a fundamental draw to this game. Just adding it to the shop afterwards would remove that aspect. Though it would definitely be beneficial for the players.

[somber cairn]

tbf its not like u can pay gems to get the item so in this instance i dont rly see how the fomo works

shortening the time needed to put it in shop to 1 year is a fair compromise imo

[frigid yacht]

It keeps people playing. Not all of them will spend money, but some of them will.

Personally I find the event system to be awful, but that is why it is there.

[crude pasture]

I wanna request that oil cap and end-of-sortie rewards be added to past archived events

[hearty crane]

UR retrofit is, but UR ship isn't? I dont really see it being too different from, say, waiting for Shinano.

[nova girder]

It's different because it's an item that gets added to the store no strings attached. Heck, the event itself is just log in for 7 days more or less.
Even when Shinano gets pooled it's going to be absolute lottery to get

Retrofit is a lottery in itself but someone like Independence becomes ridiculously good through it so might as well make an item for maxing it as well :- )

[somber cairn]

UR retro turns a shitty permanent ship into a very good permanent ship. it's different imo

[timber grotto]

Faction medals for 36 ships plox

[fluid grotto]

coggies from medal

[crystal spindle]

Yostar plz I need more cog chips

[formal oyster]

We all need more cog chips

[acoustic helm]

coggies

[fierce ember]

why would you even need more cogs income if you are still hardlocked on other parts of ships raising system
you cant even level all of the skills according to current chip income or get the gear fast enough to equip them all,i dont get the point for all of this
its not like the game even allows you to raise all of the other parts for 6 ships you can max level for per month
fixing just meme income of them like laughably low income from daily log-in or rng drop on latest chapters is reasonable,but getting more sources of them sounds unreasonable when everything else lags behind,it will create more issues then solve them
what would even be the point of raising like 2 full fleets per month,its not like the game has combined fleets or anything alike to even make you use that many ships,we still have 6 slots on top of it

[timber grotto]

Coggies plox

[somber cairn]

yeah i mostly just want the meme sources buffed to not be memeworthy

[fierce ember]

also,when the game does this,you kinda wanna know what is the problem

rather then trying to guess and check every single meta
having a ! to the meta in question should be an easy fix

[wooden swallow]

More cogs less problems

[velvet adder]

[fierce sonnet]

You raise the skills of fleet tech ships?

[velvet adder]

more cogs for everyone helps everyone and no one has negative effects

pve game btw

[fierce ember]

if only FT made that much difference but okey sure

[timber grotto]

Fleet takes makes difference in in-game gameplay? Now I want to 120 even more ships - coggies plox

[deft stratus]

I wish the skins were available at least a week after the event ends, couldn't buy any skin due to late paycheck..

[velvet adder]

It is what is it 🥲

[fierce sonnet]

Zamn meeting rld breakpoints doesn’t make a difference ingame I guess

[fierce ember]

if you care about it you can specifically break ships that give rld,they are dipslayed in the open,and then its a hard minmax
other stats arent as needed and barely make a difference,which is fine so you dont need to care about it and not really fine for the effort you need to go through
"its a waifu game btw" argument has been said a good dozen of times in here
i just think that we need to fix the monthly log ins and rng on the chapter that gives the cogs,should be enough,not more then that if it bloats the pool of other rewards,arrays yeah sure that is something that probably all agree upon as its a unneeded TG no matter how much i look at it

[fluid grotto]

meta fight lvl 16

also make them drop coggies

[velvet adder]

would do my assists if it drop poggies

coggies*

[runic tartan]

Assists dropping coggies would be nice

[timber grotto]

Assist coggies or some other form of coggies plox

[crystal spindle]

This is not a suggestion niimi. Gib all your cog chips now

[copper bolt]

it also puts ships that are started but not full developed at the top

unless that's not what you mean

[thorny stump]

Can have more oath skins for ships, every faction 2 new skins .. eg the queen and warspite would be good. Maybe shinano and amagi as well. New jersey and helena, roon and bismarck. Ning hai and ping hai. Littorio and Marco polo. Avrora and Tashkent. Richelieu, Jeanne. Gascogne, le Malin

[cursive horizon]

I would love to see many (if not all) of them get oath gowns, but we're not allowed to make requests like this, unfortunately.

[velvet adder]

if you find it awful, instead of regurgitating the devs' reasoning for having such a terrible system, we should, y'know, tell them it's not okay and is scummy practice. set this gacha apart from the others by actually caring about the playerbase

[frigid yacht]

I'd rather push feedback that will actually be useful rather than lobby for such a fundamental change. If they did away with the event system, I'd be incredibly happy. But I just don't see that being in anyway realistic.

[velvet adder]

if you don't ask for something, it will never be considered. even if there's a slim chance of such a change happening, i'd rather at least try to request a meaningful change that will drastically improve my enjoyment of a game i play. gatekeeping points you would also like to see happen is utterly pointless and defeats the purpose of that desire

[velvet adder]

Place yuudachi's retrofit item on prototype store

[somber cairn]

i like events tho

[cursive horizon]

I'm not actually sure what the problem with the events are. The events are pretty much the only way we get lore anymore, since they stopped doing a story for the main chapters years ago. How else am I going to learn more about Bismarck, Saratoga, Nagato, and others? How will we see the Sirens and the Ashes unfold without events?

[frigid yacht]

The fact that they rely heavily on FOMO and are time limited is the issue. Instead of spending time developing permanent patches to the game, all the development time is spent on time limited events. From a gameplay perspective, I see no reason for event ships to be limited to a two week period and you're shit out of luck if you missed them.

And the story being expanded through events makes even less sense. Why wouldn't the story be part of the core game and always available to anyone who might be interested?

Regardless, I'm not expecting this to change and I certainly don't care to push for it. But I don't think events are great for the game.

[somber cairn]

events are how they keep people's interest

[raw quest]

events are good

[frigid yacht]

Through fomo.

[somber cairn]

in fact im kinda sad about the whole "light rerun" thing bc it means i wont be able to properly experience the initial event

[frigid yacht]

An easy fix would be to just make the event banner and maps permanent. They'd be permanently available so that anyone could experience them at any time. We won't have to be telling new players that they need to wait a year or more for their favorite ships to be available to them.

[fluid grotto]

that's not how gacha game works

[frigid yacht]

Nope, it isn't. Hence why this is not something I care to make a big deal out of. Some people were asking what I thought the problem with events was and as such I expanded upon it.

[copper bolt]

do you have any examples of gacha games that don't have FOMO that AL could potentially take ideas from?

successful* gacha games

[somber cairn]

pretty much all gachas rely on events to retain players sadly

[sinful cloud]

Skullgirls mobile just puts every fighter variant as perma when they come out and is pretty successful

[frigid yacht]

My gacha experience begins and ends with Azur Lane. From my understanding, AL is in a pretty unique situation in that they make money primarily from their skins rather than the gacha which could allow them to develop the game in ways unavailable to other gacha games.

[copper bolt]

I've never heard of that game before but after some research, apparently the player retention and population in that game is quite low despite being a good game.

it's a business afterall, the only thing that is truely limited are collab events since everything will eventually get archived/made permanent if you wait long enough

and it's a player decision whether that FOMO is worth something to them right

limited events -> limited skins -> major revenue stream are skins

[somber cairn]

i rather a game i like have fomo than shut down early

[fluid grotto]

if every banner is permanent i wouldnt play as frequent tbh, can just do later since it is perma and eventually just drop the game because of lack interest

[copper bolt]

unless you want maybe discounted skins during the event to entice people to buy?

[copper bolt]

yeah, this is the player retention point. FOMO is not necessarily a good or bad thing for a game.

[frigid yacht]

Skins can remain limited. They're purely cosmetic. But having story and gameplay be time limited would be incredibly odd in any other genre than Gacha and isn't exactly very efficient use of development time.

[copper bolt]

it's not, u can look at the story anytime once you've unlocked it

and if you're really a lore enthusiast, it's all on the wiki

[frigid yacht]

Exactly. If you didn't miss out on the event or began playing at a later date.

[sinful cloud]

Problem is the gacha formula itself

If you put every character on pool, it will eventually need a way to increase the chance of getting a certain one else its getting flooded
If you dont then theres gonna be a long ass time to wait which can potentially make ppl bored and quit

[frigid yacht]

Easily fixable by archiving the event banners.

[copper bolt]

yep, and I highly doubt AL will decide to stop being a gacha

[copper bolt]

which they do if you wait long enough

[frigid yacht]

They do not. They thrust them into the permanent pools.

[sinful cloud]

And you're gonna put gonna put everything on pool? Leading to problem 1

[copper bolt]

u want several banners at the same time?

[frigid yacht]

Sure. Why not? That would also allow the players to target the ships they really want.

[copper bolt]

wishing well exists

[frigid yacht]

Wishing Well exists because the few amount of banners is such an issue.

[somber cairn]

wishing well needs to happen more often imo. like 5 times a year

[sinful cloud]

The special pool is already the smallest (and tbf has ships that shouldnt be there) but been trying for months and still havent gotten I19, put everything there and its like searching for a needle in a barn

[somber cairn]

you still need cubes for it and it's no guarantee, i dont see the harm in running it more often

the more ships in the perma pool the harder it is to get every ship you want - having more wishing wells would help

[copper bolt]

no one said anything against your point lol

[somber cairn]

im expanding on my feedback

[fluid grotto]

put coggies in gacha

[sinful cloud]

More wishing wells would be nice but why not have an item like the invitation letters on the battle pass where you can choose one ship at your choice
You still need to grind for it and cmon is 4 ships a year that big of a deal?

[copper bolt]

if the event banners become permanent, no one would ever feel the need to roll

[copper nest]

@frigid yacht I like that you're questioning how things are instead of "it is what it is" but I doubt they want to experiment with new better? formula lol

[copper bolt]

"Oh, I can just get them later"

there's not that much gameplay already in AL

and what's the first thing most people do when there's a new event? Build

[fluid grotto]

yeah they wont gamble the whole company to please some players

[frigid yacht]

It is most definitely risky. The current model is tried and true, but expanding beyond that would carry inherent risk.

Even if events were permanently available, I would still pull all of them day one.

[copper bolt]

Probably have to make a new game to test the formula to see if it's truly any better before a game like AL that has been out for 4 yrs will change it's core "gameplay" gacha system

[frigid yacht]

It would have to be a game with similar moneterization as AL. If the primary source of income is the gacha, having at least the construction pool be time limited is neccesary.

[fluid grotto]

the saying "do not touch a running system" doesnt come outta nowhere

[frigid yacht]

Kinda. The model works, but the ones doing the innovating are the ones bringing in the big money.

[fluid grotto]

innovating comes with big risk too

[frigid yacht]

Always

[velvet adder]

having to wait 1-2 years for a skin or ship i want doesn't exactly keep me excited to play the game

[somber cairn]

this is also a good idea as long as invitations get more variety on ships included too

[fluid grotto]

theres always like skins sale like twice a year

[hearty crane]

I'm just sad no new Ruski ships, I cope thinking "new Russian after" but ut probably wont

[somber cairn]

i think it depends on the person. i am super hyped for formi archive, for example, and am playing with the intent of hardcore pulling for her

for me while waiting too long hurts, a reasonable wait just builds anticipation and makes obtaining the ship a lot more valuable

[velvet adder]

not knowing whether a ship's event will ever be run again is the biggest issue for me

[frigid yacht]

That we do know though.

[copper nest]

They always are rerun once, then they become perm content

[somber cairn]

they all will except collabs

[copper nest]

yes

[fluid grotto]

initial > rerun > archive is always the formula

[copper bolt]

all skins rerun during black friday as long as they came out before the EN anniversary of that year

[raw quest]

[somber cairn]

iirc for 2021 the cutoff was june 9th but close enough

[fluid grotto]

except for collab because it's not their intellectual properties

[velvet adder]

so the only hope i have of getting Nagato and Noshiro is during wishing well? which happens once a year?

[somber cairn]

noshiro isnt archived

and yes thats why i suggest having many more wishing wells per year, at least 5 or 6

[fluid grotto]

wishing well wont get u noshiro tho

[somber cairn]

bc its no guarantee still and theres so many perma ships to pull for nowadays

also bc each wishing well u can only choose 1 pool. if u want 1 ship from each pool you gotta wait 3 wishing wells which is...kinda ass

[frigid yacht]

Having archived gacha banners would completely remove the need for wishing wells. I think wishing wells are just a bandaid solution.

[velvet adder]

that is actually garbage, wow. but since Noshiro isn't archived yet that means she can't be in wishing well? and there will be a rerun at some point?

[fluid grotto]

no next rerun, you gotta wait for archive

noshiro alr rerunned

[somber cairn]

yea noshiro will archive in like early 2023

[velvet adder]

what the fuck

[somber cairn]

:/ trust me i dislike it too i want kazagumo

[velvet adder]

i regret ever spending money on this. unfortunate that it's also one of the few gachas that i consider fun

[raw quest]

[somber cairn]

well gachas are marathons not sprints, but i do agree that manjuu should rerun shit quicker

[fluid grotto]

thats how gacha game is

can't just join and speedrun your collection

[somber cairn]

if genshin can rerun banners every 6-8 months i dont see why AL cant

[velvet adder]

waiting 2 years for a rerun / archive / w/e in any gacha is idiotic

never heard of having to wait that long and i've played my fair share of gachas

[frigid yacht]

I don't think this is a solid argument at all for not improving upon something.

[somber cairn]

AL has too many events ig

worst part ig is meta defining ships like percy just hamstring u until they rerun

[fluid grotto]

hey im all about fastened the rerun, but more rerun = less new event, even now theres only few breathing week to recover your resources

[somber cairn]

on that note can we increase this amount by 20x

[frigid yacht]

Cognitive chips and arrays should just be removed from the game entirely >.<

[fluid grotto]

they just need to scale the ratio

[frigid yacht]

They serve no purpose other than artificially hampering our progress.

[fluid grotto]

or let you exceed it with coins

[velvet adder]

stuff feels pretty spaced out as it is right now. just have a bunch of filler content this week where they could've easily thrown in another rerun or two since there are so many ships

[somber cairn]

pacing progression is key in live-update games tbf. i dont dislike the mechanic, i just want it to be balanced better

[somber cairn]

then u run into the issue of 'not enough cubes'

[fluid grotto]

so people can roll with those cube they dont have?

[somber cairn]

AL schedule is paced to allow ppl to recover cubes (unlike other gachas) so pulling remains f2p friendly

[fluid grotto]

yeah they managing the f2p status

[velvet adder]

rather have to think about what i'd prefer to spend my resources on instead of having only 1 option which slows down the rerun process

[copper nest]

well they rather allow people to collect cubes between events so they can have everything so they potentially can sell more skins and of course that cursed dock space

[fluid grotto]

they probably could do that, but this channel will be filled with people complaining about not having resources instead and quitting because the game changes 180

[velvet adder]

i understand and respect that model but i hope there can be a solution to the sheer number of limited events that doesn't have "wishing well" in its name

[somber cairn]

solution is to add more wishing wells

[fluid grotto]

more wishing well doesnt fix the long wait for rerun

[hearty crane]

Paid? Heck no. Free, possible but its 6 a year then, not 4.

[copper nest]

wishing well is shit imo because it's happening during event so you have to split your resources (or get lucky in either to focus on the other one)

[fluid grotto]

wishing well is new player trap ngl

seen alot rolling on those and screwed for next event cus they dont have hoarded resources yet

[iron pumice]

i personally never did wishing wells since event pools are mixed, no? the chance that ill get a missing eg. non event heavy ship from that is lower but its still there

theres no need to rush

only sometimes

[fluid grotto]

yeah it's perma pool which you gonna get eventually, spending on it not a wise idea if youre not planning on spend money to recover

[somber cairn]

no bc the event pools arent updated

[hearty crane]

Just... pull on the heavy pool? (Not Noshiro though, as pointed out)

[somber cairn]

event pools pull from 2018 or 2019 pools.

[velvet adder]

and continue to get useless ships i don't need? no, i think i'll wait for a rate-up to actually have a meaningful chance to get the ship i want

[copper nest]

you can do 1 per day, you save 1 cube less daily, or well just wait 😐

[somber cairn]

thats -365 cubes a year almost a full UR

more wishing wells + maybe discounted pulls during wishing wells = problem solved

ie spend 20 cubes to pull 12 times instead of 10

[hearty crane]

We already got Polaris for people to pull, you want them to pull 3 banners at once?

[sinful cloud]

Never said to be on the paid part, that would just suck
And yeah, confused AL with WT's battle pass which is 3 months each

[velvet adder]

well now that Ari broke the news about Noshiro to me i can safely hoard all my cubes for Nagato on wishing well and not bother with the heavy pool till then

not the best outcome but at least i know what to expect now

[hearty crane]

Your choice, you're just creating problems fir yourself though that are easily fixable by you, not the devs. If you got all in light pulling light and wait for rateup while you need Nagato is just stupid

[velvet adder]

pulling for one specific ship while there is no rate up for it sounds like a stupid idea to me

[fluid grotto]

yeah pulling on banner without rate up and expecting one specific unit is insanity

[sinful cloud]

stupid fucking red cat

[hearty crane]

Sounds good to me then

[fluid grotto]

welp wishing well should be in two weeks btw, just hoard resources

[velvet adder]

didn't realize it was so soon, now this is exciting, thanks

[hearty crane]

I mean, waiting for rateup then blowing it all on the pool isnt cheap either, better to try 1 pull a day and pray RNGesus. You're going to spend it anyway.

[velvet adder]

if i played gachas like that i would be broke

[somber cairn]

rerun maritime escort mini event way more often rewards are very good for oil spent and little time taken per day

[hearty crane]

(Don't count on it. There might not even be an update 2 weeks from now if the raid is 2 weeks)

[copper bolt]

the wishing system is quite different due to the rate you obtain new ships vs characters and the amount of pulls you can earn as a F2P in the same time period.

[somber cairn]

wait really?

[copper bolt]

always around the same time every year

[somber cairn]

also wishing wells have a cutoff date right, i cant wish bisko right now

[hearty crane]

(Though depends if they use JP pools again)

[uneven jewel]

more coggies please, thanks

[somber cairn]

dam why wishing well so soon

[copper bolt]

so which one do u want? You've already said you want more wishing wells so isn't having one a good thing? Sounds like you're only thinking about yourself rn

[somber cairn]

yea no i want more wishing wells its just bad luck for me that this one is so soon (bc atm there's like only 2/year)

[hearty crane]

If "same time each year" is correct, 2021 was May (CN anni) and August (EN anni)... so, yeah... not sure why you guys get hyped.

[somber cairn]

i gotta wait until like anniv for bisko ig

[velvet adder]

that's why i was surprised, i thought it was gonna be in August

[somber cairn]

how long does it take for a recently archived ship to be available in wishing well?

[copper bolt]

as long as they were added 1-3 months before the wishing well

[fluid grotto]

nah, its not the same every year

[copper bolt]

2021: End of May & Middle of August
2020: Middle of May & Middle of August
2019: Middle of May & Middle of September

[somber cairn]

so pretty close enough, probably just spaced out depending on schedule

[somber cairn]

anyway heres my most recent feedback i like this mini event a lot it's shit easy has low oil cost and good rewards

[hearty crane]

September is JP anni, guess they went EN anni 2020 onwards (JPs still in September)

[somber cairn]

oh wait they dont take rerun feedback

well either way i must say i appreciate this event

[copper bolt]

they take feedback on the event, just not the release order/when they should be released

[somber cairn]

ooo

so then yeah this mini event is great and having it more often (at their discretion) would be nice

[copper bolt]

my only feedback is make it more obvious since ik previously, i forgot about it for a few days since it's only a small icon on the port screen, not an event icon when you do campaign etc. Would be nice if they could add the icon when the Maritime Escort event is going on. Bonus points if it only shows if you haven't completed your daily attempt yet.

[fluid grotto]

right, got it mixed up with cny

mb

[hearty crane]

Free gems is nice too (thursday!)

[fluid grotto]

but who knows, theyre planning to fit 4 UR events this year

pattern might change

[somber cairn]

thursday?

[fierce ember]

being able to read is a very valuable ability,more so then not bothering someone when you dont properly do it
the problem in there was souryuu getting lvl 70 and wanting mlb,and you are supposed to guess that it was the case with checking every single meta

[copper bolt]

but hiryuu is MLB in that screenshot of yours

you complain about me not being able to read, but you didn't read yourself. :l that's pretty ironic

you also did not specify that the issue in this scenario was a limit break on souryuu meta so idk how you expect anyone to know what you meant exactly by reading your feedback

and you edited your message after the fact. Fair enough, I agree being able to read is a good skill to have and not bothering someone when you don't properly do it is the right thing to do. But when you do the exact same thing when you try to tell someone off...

very ironic

[somber cairn]

mistake happen, no need to be snarky

[fierce ember]

that was the whole point of it "guess whats wrong" is the whole issue,and stop making a mess over me just mixing hiryuu and soryuu

[copper bolt]

Fair enough but wouldn't it be better to say something like:
"having a ! to the meta in question should be an easy fix [+such as next to Souryuu META in this case as they are currently missing a limit break and we currently meet the requirements do so]."

Otherwise, just like it happened to me, the reader of the feedback would get confused since there is already a red mark next to Hiyou META in that screenshot.

Also the name of the ship is written there in the screenshot. You don't need to get so annoyed. I'm only defending myself after you called me out

[fierce ember]

i do get heavily annoyed when i am getting called out on absolutely nothing when i am busy,moving on

[fluid grotto]

i get annoyed when i dont have enough coggies tom awaken ship
coggies reward scaling pls

[raw quest]

[uneven jewel]

my ships get depressed from all the surplus exp when I cannot awaken them
coggies please

[velvet adder]

being able to awaken is a very valuable ability. more coggies plox

[hearty crane]

Cog addiction is real, you guys all act like cog-crackheads here.

[uneven jewel]

[slate monolith]

[hidden bear]

I think the next big upgrade to the game would be to be able to bring EVERY UNIT through Retrofitting up to SR/UR status, like other games that offer the chance to upgrade their base units to a higher rarity.

[copper nest]

Sounds cool, maybe not up to ur 🤔

[somber cairn]

i wish but that sounds extremely unlikely. in 2021 they did only 5 retros lol, let alone making 500 ships have retros

i do hope it happens tho, send it in belfast bot

[crimson hornet]

how does it feel like to have pog chips? cuz ive forgotten...
give pog chips please

[hasty mountain]

coggies stock market
you invest coggies on azur booba, then you hit it big or you lose everything and jump from a building

[stone valley]

scrapping meta and pr ships when

[cursive horizon]

Never just have them come with a free dock space of their own. Same with putting Bulins in a separate space that doesn't require dock space. People should not be looking to require one-of-a-kind, irreplaceable ships. It's something the devs should have dealt with ages ago.

[fierce ember]

one way to do it is a second retrofit,kai ni,so blue units can go through elite and get to SR and commons can go up to elite,applying that to elites is unneeded as bloating UR pool is a bit too much,i simply dont want it to be in the same situation we have with SR pool
main issue is probably gonna be withing properly making this system not just be another resource sink,and not making them too strong for their price,making them like a low-cost(on oil side,the resources you would need are def not low)lower power SR units,like currently are mostly y1-y2 SR units,but since oil cap exists
another way is just to make it a standart that retrofit brings up units up to at least elite(common->sr sounds a bit much) regardless of base rarity

[left estuary]

need UR Kashino retrofit so that she can carry nukes

[timber grotto]

Faction medals for 36 ships plox

[somber cairn]

also all ships should have at least 1 retrofit if elite or below. bad SRs should have UR retros

[fluid grotto]

add coggies as loot when you retiring ships

[somber cairn]

add retire/scrap voiceline (only plays the first time you scrap a specific ship) makes ppl whale dock space

[slate monolith]

[runic tartan]

Can we add cog chips to maint mail? Like just make it same amount like coins or double or smth.

[somber cairn]

even 500-1k would be real nice

[fluid grotto]

more maintenance more coggies

[timber grotto]

More coggies plox

[fluid grotto]

apolocoggies should be a thing

[raw quest]

[thorn citrus]

I have a suggestion about ammo:

[thorn citrus]

Just to save a few clicks 🙂

[runic tartan]

Better to make it based on armour rather than that, as this ignores CV

[thorn citrus]

Ah yes why didn't i think of that, great idea! I guess i use too much BB

[copper bolt]

Dont forget to submit it to Belfast bot if u want it accepted

Also how would it work if those guns are equipped on other ships?

[thorn citrus]

yes i submitted it to belfast 🙂 I guess if guns that are not available are treated same as not there, so the loadout for that ship is unaffected.

[copper bolt]

👍 I think it'd be good to mention that too then

[junior cave]

give more cog chips please

[wheat yoke]

So a thing I have noticed which I honestly believe is very dumb but the back arrow button (red circle) serves the same purpose as go back to home/main screen button (Yellow circle) which is basically overlapping to each other and seems to be wrong.

Since the X button (blue circle) closes every layer one by one, I suggest the back arrow button to not send you straight to the home/main screen but rather:

• If you're currently on fleet deployment menu, sends you back to the Fleet Operations Menu (2nd image)
• If you're currently on the 3rd pic (don't know what this one is called), it sends you back straight to the Guild's Lobby (4th pic)

[cursive horizon]

It would be nice if they could get rid of that message asking us if we're "sure" about dispatching a team for guild missions. All anyone ever does is hit Recommend and then Dispatch, there's no pressing need to reuse those ships immediately somewhere else, and the two missions that take place at the same time always have different requirements. It's just another pointless message that results in yet another tap on an already tap-happy section.

[fluid grotto]

plate conversion up to t4

too many useless purple

[marble bay]

just know today ❤

[timber grotto]

Faction medals for 36 ships plox

[fallow harbor]

Auto search for SOS when?

[cursive horizon]

Oil cap for SOS is what I’d like to know!

[wheat yoke]

still leaning to a change like this

[raw quest]

please use !submit command in #bot-spam or send a direct message with it to @agile otter

[loud axle]

So I submitted a feedback that got downvoted to hell and back. I have to believe that the idea is solid, but simply people are just too god damn lazy.

[hearty crane]

[uneven jewel]

or it wasn't solid and people just don't like it

[loud axle]

I mean being capped at two fights +3 supporting fights is asinine.

[copper nest]

ikr, I'd rather fight only once

[cursive horizon]

I think people like the goal of fighting the META ships X times a day and not needing to do more. The idea is that you don't complete the long-term point goal in a matter of days or weeks.

[uneven jewel]

time gate to keep people invested also I don't see any reason in farming it other than people who completely forgot about it or whales throwing several k oil at it

[somber cairn]

so is having affinity capped but ig ppl are too lazy to want to let some ppl flex

anyway im just gonna assume most ppl dont even read the detailed explanation of an idea and only read the title then vote. so dont feel too bad about it

I'd like affinity to have no cap - there shouldn't be a limit to how much a shipgirl loves you.
How it'd work is that you'd still need 100 affinity to oath them, but you can go beyond 100 before that. You also will need the oath to get 9% stat, and 12% at 200 like normal. The only difference is that you can gain affection beyond 200. This is largely just to showcase how much you use and love a specific girl, for flexing purposes or waifu purposes. In general I'd like AL to have more waifu-focused mechanics, this is one of them. It also encourages using girls who are already level 125 and 3m exp capped, as you still gain a benefit from using them, even if it's just to show off.

like idk why ppl would be against it honestly, it's just a way to show how much you use a certain girl which i think would be nice. this game really needs more waifu-focused stuff

[raw quest]

#collected-feedback message

[slim idol]

make strategic search on Siren to auto Request Recon

[fluid grotto]

make meta showdown drop coggies then i upvote

[sinful cloud]

My view on both suggestions is

The affinity works as is and they should fix stuff first before anymore unecessary changes just to flex

The META fights... just no, I hate the timegate but Opsi is already enough of a slogfest, dont make it take more time

[fluid grotto]

hows is that takes more time? you can speedrun point with that system

[sinful cloud]

Have you read the "costing more resources" part to begin with? The amount youll spend grinding for it will be greater

[fluid grotto]

cost for summoning

first 2 is 100 of the thingy

you can always just do twice a day and finish at the same pace as normal, or speedrun it by grinding more opsi

[somber cairn]

we need more waifu mechanics in AL

[fluid grotto]

you can always choose only to do non scale summoning which is the first 2, and finish in two months like usual

also lvl 16 meta showdown when

[raw quest]

sounds pay2win, probably just me though

[fluid grotto]

welp play at your own pace, it's a single player game anyway

[raw quest]

play at your own pace
permanent content

[fluid grotto]

same logic with pr1 bp for coins, ppl can go all out paying like 50k coins a day for bp, or find an ideal treshold like 10bp/day
at the end of the day everyone got the same result anyway

[copper nest]

meta showdown isn't permanent 😕

[raw quest]

it is, it just changes ships

[velvet adder]

which never come back as far as we know

ever

theyre currently on par with collab content

[hearty crane]

Plenty of people (with ocd) just want stuff maxxed. Cant max stuff if unlimited. Also imagine wanting equal intimacy but having a system like this. But nah, guess we're just "lazy"

[hearty crane]

I would go for secretary upgrades for that over intimacy personally. How many of us complained about their outdated 5 slot limit? Keep selling skins but we can hardly showcase them.

[hearty crane]

But then you think about support and realise the thin spread gets even thinner... do we just expect everyone to fight their own to complrtion? New players already struggle on that and here we want to take away their support. But yeah, "just lazy"

[fluid grotto]

never said anything bout lazy so idk what ur on about
can always do the first 2 and done with it, it scaled anyway so theres soft cap of doing it

[hearty crane]

They count against collection % so the basis for reruns is there.

Reruns are around 18m right? Hiryuu is 13 months old now.

[velvet adder]

The first META ship, Hiryuu META, was released in late 2020, and (as of early 2022) has yet to get a rerun.

[hearty crane]

Both Ari and Hoffen blame "lazy people" on the downvotes, thats what I was on about.

[fluid grotto]

sure, but why are you directing that to my reply?

[velvet adder]

not that its even worth rerunning, meta ships are total garbage that nobody should even bother to build, why waste your time

just wait for new UR ship and build it in 2 seconds

without months of operation siren grinding for parts

[fluid grotto]

idk helena, ark, gneuiseu are pretty good

[velvet adder]

theyre all worse (maybe par gneisiseu havent seen her) than the originals

[fluid grotto]

doesnt make it total garbage as you claimed

[velvet adder]

and especially more so than any UR that will be released in future

[fluid grotto]

heck helena meta one of the better cl out there

[hearty crane]

Aurora Noctis was mid 2020, Northern Overture early 2020. (NO definitely got shafted though being skipped by 2 events proceeding it)

[velvet adder]

I mean im just saying that opsi ships have never reran, and nobody knows a method yet to obtain them if they are skipped

no point in going with "oh they could rerun theyve only been in the game for over a year"

[wheat yoke]

slap it in cruise pass xd

[velvet adder]

its just guessing

collab ships could also rerun! theyve only been in the game for a few years but they could redo the contract!

[fierce ember]

cruise pass is supposed to have lower end metas,so that is not happening,plus they will probably keep adding new ships in to it and i doubt we get 2 at the same time

[velvet adder]

they will definitely add new ships to it since its tied to the pass (real money)

[fluid grotto]

they probably gonna run through all existing meta before rerunning old one

[velvet adder]

how many months is a meta still takao and enty minimum to go

[fluid grotto]

we still have yortown,enty,and takao that confirmed, possibly the other ugly sister

[hearty crane]

You can say the exact same thing about URs (Shinano being first sep 2020)

[velvet adder]

yeah but we do have evidence of events being reran

we have 0 evidence of opsi ships being reran or how the crystals will be obtained for limitbreaking since its a new system

[fierce ember]

my guess is that rerunning meta just get added as their own thing you can do meanwhile you grind of the "new" meta,but that still solves absolutely no issues with the meta system as a whole
its literally downscaled PR system with same issues

[fluid grotto]

well if theyre counted in collection it's bound to get a rerun eventually, or added in game using other method

[velvet adder]

plus with how slow opsi gets updates (took them a year to add like 5 zones and a crappy boss) it doesnt seem like anything will come soon

even the new auto is half baked

[fluid grotto]

very hard arbiter pl0x

[fierce ember]

at least it works,so now we have a staple on the piles of AP we need to burn rather then manual it

[velvet adder]

but the problem we do have is the millions of hidden boxes auto wont clear so i still have to spend 10s of hours running through them

[hearty crane]

So, every new system needs to be doom and gloom? And since we had no UR event reruns, and theres tons of questions how those would be handled I would classify them the same.

[velvet adder]

i mean since every new system has been getting worse

i dont remember the last time things were added that people liked

[fierce ember]

i would say its not really directly "worse"
its creative from a dev perspective with all of the new mechanics,but it feels like it wasnt tested at all beyond the idea,like looking at opsi and all of the uselless stuff that player would never touch

[hearty crane]

Secured Zones dont have Promoted Pawns (no cle why they wont fix it but OPS is all features, no bugfixing for some reason and it irks me)

[velvet adder]

opsi was in development for a long time, and even had beta testers as far as i know

[fluid grotto]

opsi is fine, most ppl doing it

[velvet adder]

begrudgeingly

it takes far too long for what you get in return

[fierce ember]

"fine"

useless materials
weird balancing on SR material usage
weird balancing on siren talents
still no use for some of the rarest drops

[fluid grotto]

and the qol update keeps coming

plates are pretty good

[velvet adder]

remember the opsi survey i wonder why nothing was released on what people thought about opsi

[hearty crane]

I like it, but it is mirred in questionable decisions and bugs they never fix (plates still better in OP guild shop)

[wheat yoke]

OpSi could use a lot of optimization still.
It's an okey content but you'll see the issues eventually (and quickly too)

[fierce ember]

like,i havent used a single blue or elite material since release ever despite grinding this every month since it released,and all that it takes to fix it is to make a conversion like we have with books,yet,doesnt seem like we ever gonna get it
bcs devs think someone could care about blue or elite gear in opsi gear lab for some reason which goes against all logic from a player perspective

[fluid grotto]

same thing could be said bout campaign or event map anyway, lots of useless low tier/bad print that unusable

[velvet adder]

i mean the fact nobody buys ap with oil, unless theyre crazy and have like 25k cap, just shows how worthless it is

[summer spindle]

Opsi came out jan 2021, not 2020

[velvet adder]

Operation Siren is a mid- to endgame gamemode introduced to the game on December 22th, 2020.

was being tested from like september as far as i know and was in development pretty much all of 2020

i still havent spent pretty much anything in research lab since theyre mostly marginal upgrades (aside from rainbow gears)

grinding for a 1% dps upgrade

[fierce ember]

that is only partially true,there are some good gear out there that isnt just a bit of an upgrade,its a GP help type of thing

[wheat yoke]

yeah but the cost is absurb and everything loves the leds for some reason

[fierce ember]

yeah,and it feels like at some point we do get good gear for other materials,that will be absurdly overpriced like the recent speed AP gun(which is like 3 times more) so we burn our matts

[hearty crane]

That is more a Gear Lab than OPS issue (and also one of the causes Lvl 95 Fierce Assault is worse than Lvl 70 Fierce Assault...)

[fierce ember]

GL and opsi are tightly connected,GL in the current state cannot exist without OPSI even with other light material sources,so its safe to consider them as one currently

[copper bolt]

How would you buff the 5k oil item since that is one of the few reasons for buying it in the first place?

[sinful cloud]

If a mechanic needs to be made borderline useless without it then thats some great game design

[fluid grotto]

they should have hide the auto explore feature behind 5k oil item wall so no one complaining

not a bad feature if you cant access it without

[sinful cloud]

Just delete Opsi while at it, dont need QoL and bug fixing if it doesnt exist

[velvet adder]

yeah just give me all the rewards of OS in the mail every month instead

[fluid grotto]

add some coggies too in that mail

[velvet adder]

[somber cairn]

gneisenau went from tn to t1 lol

[somber cairn]

wait why is it worse

[copper bolt]

They don't take feedback on new ships otherwise #al-general

[hearty crane]

Replacing one box (guaranteed gear, potential gold catapult) for one gold OPSI drop... low chance for electronics (only one you want) and you generally need like 50. Great trade-off... NOT.

[velvet adder]

but theres also a bajillion tier 0 and now theres even consistently ur bb's added to tier ex so tier 1 is the new tier 2

[fluid grotto]

tierlist

[somber cairn]

saying X ship is bad bc it isnt t0 is the height of tierlist sheepism

[raw quest]

[velvet adder]

the height of tierlist sheepism (uses only fdg perseus nj) ok dud

[somber cairn]

wow its impressive im able to use ships i dont have

[velvet adder]

ill use waifus but im not gonna play super inefficiently and pretend these are in the same ballpark

[somber cairn]

sure but everything t3 or above is reasonably decent to good

[velvet adder]

when theyre pumping out 4 UR a year minimum + retrofits idk

new chapters will not allow it

[cursive horizon]

Some of that might be alleviated if they'd stop increasing the difficulty, but vocal players would lose their mind.

Alternatives are empowering ships from the first two years of release so they better compare to the newer ships, especially year one ships that are lore/story important. I don't know about AL in CN or JP, but EN has Enterprise as the face of the Azur Lane and she was passed by ages ago. Same with Elizabeth, despite her heavy presence in the story she's often passed up tierwise for Monarch, Duke, and others.

Most of the vanguard retrofits are Destroyers which often suffer in the later chapters, most of the CA and CL retrofits are Royal Navy or Sakura Empire with a lean towards CL's. Basically, I'm saying there's plenty of room for improvements on older ships it's just a matter of convincing the devs to do it.

As an aside, I would also be for allowing us to consolidate our lower end materials into better ones for the gear lab. Maybe have less gear take the same two resources (Gold electronics & metals), as well, since I've got hundreds of the others and am always struggling with electronics.

[somber cairn]

enty is still top tier...what?

QE tho is a valid one, shes been irrelevant for years. really needs a buff

on AL in CN/JP, saratoga is the face of AL there and she has been passed by ages ago...but idk if they'd do kai nis.

[fierce ember]

while i do heavily agree on that,i see that as a slight issue as basically the only way so far that we had to major fix a ship was a retrofit,and looking at how many ships actually need it to stay afloat is a bit of a problem at how many UR retrofits would be as a result
there are those who could get way with just stat buffs,but a lot honestly need full skill changes which retrofits didnt do so far

[somber cairn]

mass ship rework time

[cursive horizon]

I can't remember the last time we had a ship released that wasn't Blue or higher, maybe it's time to release retrofits for all Common/Grey and Rare/Blue ships. ...that's probably a hell of an undertaking so it's pretty much not gonna happen, but it's certainly an idea even if it's unlikely.

[timber grotto]

Faction medals for 36 ships plox

[runic tartan]

How about make it 48 since last one was 2x more than the one prior?

[timber grotto]

[fluid grotto]

48 ship for faction medal

[timber grotto]

96 ship faction medal

192 ship and 386 ship faction medals for all factions as well to get them all to rainbow and rainbow+ plox

[runic tartan]

Iris, Vichy, Northern Parliament, & Sardegna medals too

[cursive horizon]

I'd rather have Tech Levels for the smaller factions (including Dragon Empery) before worrying about medals, although as the animated gif says "why not both?" It's just a matter of getting the devs to do any of this.

[hollow sand]

can we have it so retiring ships and enhancing ships just auto scraps common and rare gear
that would be nice

[timber grotto]

Can we get it so a single button press puts all 6 ships from a fleet into the 2nd level of the dorm?

99% of people just put 6 ships from their current farming mob fleet in there and it’s a pain to scroll and swap in 6 ships.

[fluid grotto]

[raw quest]

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[timber grotto]

Coggies plox

[fluid grotto]

make girls in dorm give coggies instead of dorm token

[cursive horizon]

This is a great idea! I was just thinking of this myself the other day as I added some new girls to a fleet and replaced their previous positions in the dorms.

[somber cairn]

not against it, but how would this work for those with less than 6 slots?

would it put them in then stop at the limit? put the rest in first floor?

[timber grotto]

I personally don’t care how that part shakes out so just don’t use if if you have under 6.

Dorm slot purchase with gem is already an actual p2w with literal gameplay impact, I don’t think qol improvement really needs that much consideration when we already have actual gameplay benefits locked behind p2w dorm slot expansion.

[nova girder]

Tbh

Just have pre-sets saved instead. That way you could just have the amount of slots used you need

[eternal bronze]

i agree with that

[nova girder]

Then it would just switch slot 1, slot 2...

[eternal bronze]

next stages are certainly going to be meta heavy

new content in general

[timber grotto]

Or just literally be able to swap in ships you’re using instead of swapping out ships in pre-saved sets. Not sure how you level ships but I often swap out 1 or 2 etc as I level and I don’t have like few specific comps I always use as mob fleet

[eternal bronze]

older ships needs to be at least relevant or there will not be any competition

it will just be UR ship and other T0 meta composition

[nova girder]

Anything really. Switching the ships in dorm is and has always been annoying

I have 4 on second floor and 2 on first floor whenever I use full fleet

[timber grotto]

Can’t please everyone with any setup - but the slot thing would be a downgrade for me

[nova girder]

It could be both

[timber grotto]

Yeah if devs had the capacity - they can do both.

I can only speak for myself but I would personally find setting multiple specific fleets to rotate between and swapping out individual ships and swapping them back every time adjustment is needed be to be super annoying with relatively marginal benefit to me.

I’d rather just literally rest ships I’m using. I don’t care about anything else (if ships are part of a specific mob comp I have usually run historically etc), I just want to rest ships I’m using.

I’m sure I don’t speak for the entire playerbase - just how I would see it personally and what I want as an individual.

[somber cairn]

this sounds better

[hasty mountain]

This, but expand it to the hard mode fleet selector on events as well as that is the most annoying one; you have to remember all 6 ships you used because there is zero indication within the dorm screen that the ships are being used in current event's hard maps

[velvet adder]

speed up some of the daily things in AL, 3x hard mode skip, commissions queues, research queues

dont have time to nolife it like i did in the past

even logging into the game is like a chore now since i know theres a mountain of gameplay behind it

i dont care about event grind etc but the daily stuff even opsi should be streamlined, i dont have time to watch 30 mins+ of gameplay everyday

[woeful shale]

Fast Forward set as Default for all AutoSearch please - including for OpSi.

[cursive horizon]

Has anyone ever submitted a feedback for Auto-Search in the SOS stages? I tried searching for it but didn't find anything.

[sinful cloud]

Pretty sure someone did but cant remember properly

[wheat yoke]

I should submit mine now you did mention it

[fluid grotto]

lvl 16 meta and very hard arbiter

[coral sequoia]

i wish the siren buff +15% heal under 30% HP would be nerfed, if it would just proc once per encounter fine not proc every time I send a fleet and it happens to be under 30% and procs repeatedly

[cursive horizon]

I love we can accept the daily missions any time now, but do we need to see all of them pop up on the map one after another? That’s very unnecessary.

[somber cairn]

imo the heal mechanic is fine but the potency is a bit too strong and unforgiving for newer players, it's the most powerful siren gimmick for sure

nerf it from 25% -> 15% and it'll be fine

[velvet adder]

need more coggies now give them to me give them to me now!

[velvet adder]

🤲 please sir may I have another cog chip

[fluid grotto]

put coggies in shiranui shop

[nova girder]

The "New" tag in OpSi ports is borderline useless because if you don't clear out the shop, it never goes away.

[cursive horizon]

Also, on that note, can we please get the ❗ to go away if we can't collect the Coins/Oil/Books? I have more coins than I've ever had in one time before and there is no way I can spend enough to get it down to collect the coins I've got waiting. Seeing it also throws me off from knowing when commissions are done. It's useless to leave that notification there 24/7.

[split gyro]

better yet, maybe remove the soft caps for coins and maybe oil, so people can collect from their merchant and canteen at all times. It's just useless now, especially the merchant. We already have a steady flow of coins now, might as well say screw it and unlock merchant past the soft cap

just use the respective hard caps for them. soft cap is irrelevant anyways.

[hearty crane]

If softcap was irrelevant, you wouldn't try removing it.

[split gyro]

it's irrelevant in the sense that its only purpose is to block the merchant and canteen

so yes, it is useless

I see people flying past their coin soft caps now like crazy.

Its the soft caps one and only purpose. blocking canteen and merchant. and as said above, at this point it is irrelevant. might as well just unlock it.

or make that an upgrade to the facility "Ignores soft cap". So only higher level players can unlock it. if that is a problem

[copper bolt]

idk, i still struggle to ever reach the coin softcap despite being a fairly end game player. Ik it affects a lot of people but it's not a problem that affects everyone.

[split gyro]

the good thing is that it wouldn't have a negative impact on players that don't reach the soft cap often. But would be a great qol for the others. And now that I think about it, making that a facility upgrade is not a bad idea?! If its some kind of balance problem that is.

but this is the #wishful-thinking channel, so

[raw quest]

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[copper bolt]

could say if ur over the soft cap anyway, you dont really need the extra coin income even though it's nice to have right?

like yeah, +ve change overall but ur already over the cap for one reason, maybe u can't spend the coins fast enough. In that case what good does even more coin income do for you?

apart from saving for UR events, in which case u get enough gold to hit pity regardless if u save or not

what will the extra gold income do for a player who is already wayy above the soft cap?

the "!" mark can be coded to go away if ur like 30k above your soft cap if that's the issue

but it's like the game is saying, you have a lot of gold rn. You might want to spend it on gear/retro/cat boxes etc.

[inner frost]

Or (from my point of view), we can just get rid of soft cap so I don't have to spend over 500k just to be able to collect from my merchant that has been sitting on 12k for months

[cursive horizon]

I just want the exclamation mark to go away.

[nova girder]

There was that submission for research lab to use merchant coins but so far that hasn't gone anywhere

[sinful cloud]

Gotta love how AL is made, when a gate goes away, the other 3 associated with it bring problems

[somber cairn]

yeah just remove the !

[crude pasture]

Bush, Newcastle, Nagatsuki and Uranami are all listed as available from either Monthly Sign-in (which they haven't been available from since early 2020 in Bush's case, and I can't find out when Nagatsuki was) or Fight On, Royal Maids (which also has been almost two years ago now, and isn't even correct for Uranami who was in the immediately preceding event)

then again, the rerun of Northern Overture is still waiting, and it has been almost that long too

[crude pasture]

personally I flipflop between being eternally broke, and suddenly having more money than the softcap allows for

mostly because the money I would spend retrofitting, upgrading auxiliaries and guns, and building gear lab equipment, doesn't get spent on account of being nearly done with retrofits, out of purple plates and out of T3 electric components respectively

[nova girder]

NO is coming as the next rerun, so likely after this new year's event. But yeah, those sign-in ships seem all but forgotten.

[crude pasture]

like, I think it was Bush who got archived alongside Spee in CN, but didn't on EN?

or was it ngtk

[cursive horizon]

This is currently the predicament I'm in as well. It's so hard to get enough gold plates to do +11 let alone +12 or higher, and I always seem to be lacking in sufficient Purple Auxiliary plates. I also can't make more Gear Lab equipment cause I'm always out of the electrical components.

[fluid grotto]

make t3 plates convertible into t4 plates
have too many of these that cant be used

[velvet adder]

yup all this gold and nothing to use it for... no gold plates to enhance, all stuff already +10, no need gear lab junk AND NO COGS TO AWAKEN

[wheat yoke]

Sometimes this channel feels like a cog cult or something and it worries me

[hearty crane]

That's why balancing is delicate, yet the devs just bukake'd oil and coin to fix basically an exploit anyway

I think people say the coindump is cats, but cats are terrible and def. not worth it. It still is very much an issue for new players too with only world 9+ paying out and new peeps needing more and more coins like PR1 development. Also yes to the cog cult feelings.

[sinful cloud]

That and making things "hard" = slapping a gate on it
The fundamentals of the game were made on slapping 2 bricks on top of eachother without cement

[uncut sleet]

I wish purple & blue gear lab mats could be crafted to higher tiers even if the conversion rate is terrible cuz they are mostly useless.

[somber cairn]

dont forget oite

[crude pasture]

right, she's also login reward only, but she differs from those others in that I have her

[somber cairn]

cats are a coinsink tho even if u think it isnt worth idk 6% dmg (+ more from stats) is worth to me

especially when that 6% is 12% effectively on 0 ammo

quite a major impact, that

[cursive horizon]

I'm not gonna blow 100k coins on cats that will invariably be garbage and not have good skills. There's your real gacha experience right there.

[somber cairn]

well when you have 600k coin 100k is fine

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[cursive horizon]

Doesn't solve the problem though.

[runic tartan]

What if we can convert plates to cog chips?

[hasty mountain]

it is useful because I no longer have to visit every single port on the last couple days of the month to make sure I didn't leave anything unpurchased

[cursive horizon]

Should make it a toggle so those of us who don't wanna see it don't have to?

[wheat yoke]

It's good if it happens every reset and disappears ONCE you've checked it.

[fluid grotto]

that'd be good too

also cats are good, when you have the right talent it's more than just a mere boost

[copper bolt]

This was how I thought it would work tbh and I think changing the "New" to something else if there are remaining items like a progress bar showing the amount of remaining items left in the port shop pool

Like 13/60 items remaining to show that next rotation there will still be items

And make it a toggle too

[fierce ember]

problem is that not everyone wants to buy useless adaptivity scrolls when you already gain majority of what you need with 5k oil thing+map clear
since overflowing adaptivity is GONE FOR GOOD while getting it cost some minor but resources you could get away without using as you simply do not need your 300+ adaptivity stat on anything

[velvet adder]

the beginner shops should just be full of them

they said they "increased" the chances of them showing up, but i still go through 5 resets before i get some purple adaptive sometimes

the day 1 shop should just have all the stock of them in until you buy them

[cursive horizon]

That's a fair point, the first week is when we want/need those things. Don't be showing me a 300 token rainbow plate, just gimme some adaptive upgrades.

[fierce ember]

probably i am alone on this but i honestly think we shold be able to remove those by a checkmark of having effectively capped adaptivity or by your own wish
like,i havent bought a single one out of ports,yet i already have over 200 adaptivity already without even grinding hard,now all of these 4-5 slots taken by them are bloat that i never need,but i have to buy a few of them so new stuff shows up

[hearty crane]

That's why you dont buy the 5k oil thing or the other adaptive tuning there... then having to buy it from shops isn't actually a total waste, and we all know you have to... (and even then you generally hit cap before buying them all, especially tactics which has the same amount with far lesser need)

[fierce ember]

as silly as it is 5k oil thing is a paywall QOL,so i d rather go for it anyways since its reletively easy to get that amount of oil in a week or so without even the free oil pack
you can probably easily reach about 500-600 of each adaptivity stat withing a month,with 2/3 of that going in to the void

[crude pasture]

I spend zero oil on OpSi, and usually end up with like 300 in each or so?

[sinful cloud]

I bought the oil thing once, the first and last time
Doesnt solve the slog of Opsi, doesnt give enough stats for strongholds right away... the only thing it does is make auto actually usable which should be already without it

Nothing but a waste of oil

[junior cave]

give us more cog chips

[somber cairn]

yes

[fluid grotto]

put coggies in 5k oil item bundle

[slate monolith]

This is kind of a QoL idea I have, and that would be having the option of having faction music play on the main screen for the factions we have active right now for the active secretary

[sour bobcat]

cog chip plz

[velvet adder]

🤲 please i need more cog chips... i have over 50 level 100s with 3mil exp hard cap on gold and less then 100 coggies this is BULL SHIT GIVE ME THE COG CHIPS RIGHT NOW!!!

[marble bay]

[slate monolith]

They just rolled out the cog arrays, so don't expect them to be like hand a whole bunch out all at once here, I mean it took time for most to get to at least 120 for most ships anyways. Also, we have been getting them in the event shops as of late, so it's like the PR prints in a way

[inner frost]

The people want more cog chips, not arrays (though we want more of both really)

Suggestion: Remove cogs from the game and give us Z-Flag

[slate monolith]

Well cog chips are like really easy to get as of late if you do your dailies, and do the monthly hard shop

[somber cairn]

"easy" no the drain outpaces the gain by a lot

[fierce ember]

problem is that after the coin boost and exp boost ppl started overgrinding and just run out of them and just so it happends that chips got the short end of a stick,as its now the thing that holds ppl down rather then gold like before
obviously ppl just want more rather then stop with the overgrind

[somber cairn]

especially if ur a new player who didnt stockpile 100k coggies beforehand

[fluid grotto]

coggies in w11

[slate monolith]

Honestly, I can believe that to happen with those that stockpiled the xp boosters and spammed them on ships they wanted to level cap

[stone valley]

some of the Chinese New Year skins are really out of place for azur lane…. Like the penny skin, Wtaf is that?? and the Arizona skin too… Yeah ships that everyone thought were forgotten are getting skins but it’s so out of character and… random?? Idk

[fluid grotto]

dont think some here even understand whats going on
coggies sources cant keep up with exp pack and grind with daily/regen oil.
you dont have to overgrind to outpace your coggies count, just trying to keep your oil under softcap would do it.

[velvet adder]

having new skins for a ship i won’t even have a chance to get for 2 years seems counter intuitive at the most fundamental level

[fluid grotto]

out of character, maybe, but not that random cus it's cny skins set

[nova girder]

I had 70k+ Cogs before oil cap. Never spammed anyone above 100 with xp boosters and I've been sitting at almost no cogs (and have tons and tons of ships to awaken) for a good while now.