game-feedback

[split gyro]

that is not even counting at least one UR rerun a year. so 2 and a half months reserved for URs a year

maybe even 3 months a year reserved just for UR. sometimes they get extended. really have to question the route this game's going

[short flume]

4 UR a year would be fine if it was something like 3 new + 1 rerun or 2 new +2 rerun , but 4 new URs and rerun URs in one year is a bit excessive

[split gyro]

and between the swarms of UR there are new events for everyone. Not so sure on that cube economy now

at least 5 UR a year. so every other month is now ur. so exciting....

[somber cairn]

3 full months actually if you include that each UR event has prelude

[versed wren]

Generally, I'm quite a bit worried what stance would the Elites and below would take right now. I really hope they have some ideas for them because usable Elites-Common ships are quite rare.

Though I don't want to have tons of shipgirls doing nothing at my port. Commission and others are nice and all but I think it can be expanded.

[somber cairn]

including reruns we lookin at 4-5 month full of UR related bs.

[drowsy harness]

As I pointed out earlier, you get a minimum of 168 cubes a month, no grind required. That is enough to keep up with 5 URs a year, assuming you have to pity all of them.

That also doesn't count commissions, nor the battle pass, with the battle pass giving you 20 cubes every two months on just the base version, and 30 on top of that 20 with fair winds. You can easily push that 168 to 200+ just doing commissions.
It is 90 from dailies
48 from weeklies
30 from monthly

[somber cairn]

you're forgetting we still have SSR event and SSR rerun

anyway im not concerned abt the cubes, im concerned abt game balance

with URs gonna be a dime a dozen, rip SSRs, and elites are just skeletons at the bottom of the ocean by now

[drowsy harness]

I'm not forgetting about them, you will have to choose whether to go for SSRs, and reruns will be operating under a new system that will not require cubes from what I've heard

[somber cairn]

also if each new UR is even more powerful than the last we will be having truly insane levels of powercreep

definitely not something im a fan of considering i love a whole bunch of underappreciated garbage ships

[drowsy harness]

If you must pity every single one of the 5 URs a year, you would still have 256 120 cubes so long as you do the battle pass and log in for your dailies

I'm doubtful at best that anyone would have to pity 5 URs, but that is the math

[versed wren]

Like I said, the devs need to do something about that. I don't want most of my shipgirls staying at port doing nothing. And I don't want the Elites and below to be left out.

[somber cairn]

i wish instead of more gacha UR they at least did more retro UR instead. make some bad SSR relevant again instead of making them even worse

[ornate basin]

if we having this discussion here again, I think something could change about the way you guys are providing your feedbacks

we dont need same discussion 3 times throughout the day for past few days in a row, please summarize your thoughts and leave in a message, a back and forth conversation isnt helpful for staff

[somber cairn]

that's fair we all beating a dead horse tbh.

[versed wren]

Noted

[drowsy harness]

ok

[round verge]

Plis add l2d skin preview inside the game

[fierce ember]

i have been trying to push this take since like shinano came out,which was already a cause for concern,at least people seem to realise this now
but yeah,UR devalue the whole economy this game had built over the past years
they are literally PR packed inside gacha without all the faction and research grind on top,you just do usual dailies to get cubes over a span of time and your done
and now that the very concept of "super rare" and "ultra rare" vanished this becomes a huge issue

i am not against some high value ships as a thing.and i am not against UR being literal cheatcodes,i am against them devaluing older ships and UR themselves being devalued later,i want my investments to be worth it

in the end,one way to do it: instead of printing new ships on reruns like we did,which is now no longer the case,use those resources to tweak old ships to fit the current meta and actually fit their rarity
and by tweaking i mean it,not print retrofits,actually change their base value and give retrofits to ships who at least work on conceptual level but are outdated stat-wise and skill-wise(like foxes who's "preload" is obsolete now,bcs actual preload airstrike is a thing) ,some ships dont work even on paper now like hood or taco sisters (due to offering nothing much compared to alternatives)
for ship needing to be additionally invested on to a retrofit on to be usable brings up PR issue on lesser scale of "why pay more to use X when i have better Y"
and you wont be able to spam that many UR retrofits without tweaking the system itself

so for the love of god consider major tweaks per old event rerun now that you have resources saved up
and dont forget to update shinano barrage on her rerun so it procs without limits on Nth fight like every new UR currently,at least keep URs and PRs from being powercrept okey?

[sinful cloud]

On one way I agree, on the other fuck PR's horrible system just give me them in gacha

[somber cairn]

tldr the problem is a core issue deep within the initial game design and worsened by the existence of URs

i like your idea i hope they listen

[fluid grotto]

still the same topic

[copper bolt]

#collected-feedback message

Ik it's already been submitted as a trello card by someone else but I wanted to add onto their existing feedback. Maybe they could make it worth 1200 gems because of the 2x bonus, some people may try to get it for "half price" by buying a first time pack or buying a more expensive pack which is not the intention of Manjuu I imagine. Making it 1200 gems would also make sense for the "free" skin and the gems you get in the Fair Winds pass too. This way people who do buy a lot of gems, can still spend it on the cruiser pass without having to spend more money to buy it because buying gems previously and saving it could be considered a "downpayment" for the cruise pass.

[eternal bronze]

just wanted to say that i warned about the URs being forced down in to the game since Shinano event and no one listened so

they sell much more than a regular ship and you can see that in the anniversary livestream where theres a pool with the most sold skins

devs have no clue on how to make all rarities balanced with each other on this game and they will def fuck up the power cap between rarities even more

when AL launched it was never designed to have UR ships in the first place after all

again powercreep is fine but the way they are pushing it into the game is not

its not healthy for the game at all

[nova girder]

Design seems to be the bigger issue over rarity in many cases

Which is why at this point there should be at least somewhat enough knowhow to not at least make new SR ships average at best. Especially if the further the content goes, the more you want to use the better/best ships.

[somber cairn]

please allow us to toggle between safemode and lethal threat level once we get a stage to safe, for testing purposes and challenging ourselves. thank you.

[eternal bronze]

My guess is that in a few years URs are going to be the new SSRs and will lose their value thats why im worried

They are sabotaging their own game by doing that

[fluid grotto]

it's a waifu game guys
doesnt matter if girls good or bad as long you like them

[somber cairn]

[cursive horizon]

It matters whether you can do the content or not cause all the ships you love and invested time in are no longer capable of handling the additional hurdles. When someone said "it's a waifu game it doesn't need to be challenging" it was met with jeers and booing.

[copper bolt]

There's always got to be a balance between the two right. For the vast majority of people, you don't actually have to clear W14 for anything since all it gives is a new ship/slightly better coin farming. So you can continue to use your waifu ships for event grinding which is time limited.

If there was time limited content that you couldn't use your waifu ships for, then I'd think that'd be a bit problematic and before anyone says opsi is the case; yes META ships come and go but it resets monthly but you can clear it fine with waifu ships. It is also a permanent game mode with systems in place to guarantee everyone can get stuff out of it even if they have bad fleets (e.g. infinite port heals for strongholds and saving dmg dealt on the normal hermit boss). Abyssal bosses do give good loot but getting a few extra plates and potential rainbow prints won't make or break the game for most people as the guaranteed monthly port/boss income (4/month) is much greater than any RNG farming u can do.

I don't think anyone would disagree it makes sense that meta ships and fleets can clear content faster/easier. At the same time, it also makes sense that there is hard content for the people that want to do it.

[fluid grotto]

last time i check we all agree on "it's just a waifu game" take

[eternal bronze]

waifu game that is slowy descending into the path of greed cuz they know UR sells and don't care about the consequences it might give

[scenic flower]

~900 cubes. Without donatello. Coins are not a problem anymore, too. So what's your pro, bro?

[eternal bronze]

Scroll up and you will find out

[scenic flower]

I see. Well, same goes to META. They're not only UNmeta in reality, but also low tier as waifus.

[fluid grotto]

eh, ark and helena meta are pretty good

[scenic flower]

Well, Melena is fine, but others are not.

[fluid grotto]

ark meta can still compete with top cv dps

[scenic flower]

Still, I won't use her ever

[fluid grotto]

doesnt change the fact its not a bad ship

[scenic flower]

not bad when you have nothing else. Enty is strong too. But she rusts somewhere in my dock.

[fluid grotto]

didnt ask you gonna use her or not

but also low tier as waifus.
just replying this

[ruby robin]

I don't think we need to continue this here

[fluid grotto]

👌

[somber cairn]

i agree with this, and as long as vital content or reward is never actually locked behind something a full TN waifu fleet cannot do, then i am satisfied. not 100% pleased, but content enough.

[fluid grotto]

need a worthwhile coin sink, maybe something like coins = dormfood without relying on general shop rng.
at some point even meowficer's talent reset wont keep me below coins softcap and went negative on canteen regen.

[somber cairn]

fully agree, buying dorm food with coin w/o rng would be neat and also fix the coin overflow issue

[fluid grotto]

other plausible option for coin sink :

• low tier exp pack
• cog chip
• opsi AP
• increase meowficer box/talent reset daily limit

[somber cairn]

a lot of players are hardcapping their exp pack, since raising ships is limited by cogchips. dont think that'd help much. the other 3 would be very useful tho, and if the cog chip one goes into effect then sure why not exp pack too

i think it'd depend on how effective the cog chip buying is, tho.

[fluid grotto]

dont think alot of people have 500 ship at max lvl

[somber cairn]

yea but theyre gated by cogs, so that's far more important like i said

if the coin > cog exchange rate was good enough to remove the shortage entirely, then i could see buying exp packs being used too, but until then i don't think anyone cares about exp packs.

[fluid grotto]

i mean if they implement the cog chips, the exp pack also works

[somber cairn]

yes

now how about arrays

[fluid grotto]

dont really care on array when fleet tech is still on 120

that extra 5 lvl dont matter much beside the 1% of the content

and at this phase array meant to be low in source anyway

[somber cairn]

also something to make meowficer rerolling less painful, could pay a large coin sum (50k+) to make a specific talent of your choice 'rate up' (think wishing well) increasing the odds of it appearing at each talent threshold. the 'rate up' would last for idk, 5 or 10 resets of that specific cat.

[fluid grotto]

lots of copium, just thinking on more realistic implementation

[somber cairn]

im just offering suggestions

[sinful cloud]

Ppl think META on the ships stand for the acronymn?
Sure they should be better but not because of that lol

[somber cairn]

i honestly think buying cogs for coins is pretty copium

[fluid grotto]

i mean it's alr a problem

not meowficer

[somber cairn]

also buying AP with coins wouldnt make much sense since opsi uses opsi coins instead.

well we're all just suggesting things into thin air, we can just wait and see if they even use any of them, which i doubt.

[fluid grotto]

welp cog problem probably will be addressed soon since cn players alr crying bout it and their feedback matters alot than ENs

[somber cairn]

and since we're both EN neither of our suggestions matter, so they're both equally copium

[sinful cloud]

Since the PR "change" I would wait to see before saying that

[somber cairn]

what changed about pr

[sinful cloud]

Also cried and didnt address CN problem

[somber cairn]

[fluid grotto]

yep whole channel pretty much copium fest but im just listing realistic way on the implementation

[somber cairn]

tbf, they did address CN crying about retirement change and 2-1 that's how we got weekly oil pack, and the clearing reward + oilcap was pushed out earlier

[sinful cloud]

Gotta wait to see what happens

[fluid grotto]

that where all the feedback are from, not just that one time

[somber cairn]

yea that's fair, but to me since my voice is unlikely to be heard in the first place i'll just put any suggestion in here, realistic or not, as long as i think it would work if they did choose to do it

anyway a far more important issue than any of this is the need for more secretary slots. why tf should i buy more skins if i can only see 5 secretaries at once

[fluid grotto]

the Q buff was the reply on cn cry about research

[sinful cloud]

Imo the game is just heading to the line of destruction while clinging to keep up
Balance... where is that?, unecessary items, unecessary timegates, bugs and bad designs not fixed cause reasons

AL is at the point a game needs to stop for a bit and get a big bug fix (and more) update

Barely touched it recently since honestly its been the same for months and new content doesnt change

Specially with Opsi, still wondering how they missed the auto recon and the central zones is "look 130 siren boss" with the lab update really being lackluster

[somber cairn]

i do agree they could streamline and better balance things, but i think you're exaggerating a bit. the game is still pretty solid as a whole imo.

[sinful cloud]

Saying its heading not that it is rn, give it a year or so and watch it if it doesnt change

[somber cairn]

opsi story update was good but took too long to come out (1 chapter a year sucks), arbiter is decently cool bossfight, center zone is not interesting enough outside of that, and gearlab needs a lot more cool shit in it. fully agree there.

i think the biggest long term issue for the game is the shift towards UR spams and total lack of ship balancing, but that's a long-dead horse and everyone and their mother knows about it

[fluid grotto]

better drop that topic before u get bonked

[somber cairn]

at least im not doomposting

[toxic sail]

it's almost a year after the buffs to some ships were applied that's why i wanna commend the devs for a job well done. i was able to 3* 14-4 and defeat hard mode arbiter (while building my boss fleet around taihou) because the skill buff that she received back then was very balanced (i.e. taihou getting mvp a lot of times)

[fluid grotto]

people sleep on taihou

[somber cairn]

taihou's pretty decent

[fluid grotto]

i like the UR pace being increase tho
faster pace to the long awaited ships i've been waiting for

[fluid grotto]

and hey thats a waifu build, some people seem not to believe it's actually working on end game content

[toxic sail]

yeah and the research buff, specifically the q research one, really helped in quickening my pace on getting tenrai, which i equip to taihou whenever i do the endgame stages

[fluid grotto]

yeah the q buff really helped, halfway my second tenrai now

kudos manjuu

[copper bolt]

this

except im not halfway to my 2nd but i've already gotten my first about 4x faster than my first drake gun

[toxic sail]

whoa that's faster than my pace though to be fair i'm focusing ægir and hakuryuu now and the buff with the face research (you only get the bp of the featured ship) is really helping too

back then i feel whenever i do azuma research and i get more fdg bps from it

but now, that isn't the case anymore, which is very nice

[copper bolt]

agreed, it's a nice improvement with the introduction of PR4. Hopefully they add more ways to buff/balance research without throwing it out of wack because changing it from the ground up again is highly unlikely.

[fluid grotto]

well yeah, took me like 6 months for pr2, only 3.5months for pr4
putting those two as comparison cus they both have 2 DRs

[copper bolt]

such as maybe introducing new types of researches? That could work

ones that cost a lot of coins but also take like 24 hrs or something

the "coin sink" people want xd

[fluid grotto]

and since coins not longer a problem research funding is easily manegeable now

new problem tho

[somber cairn]

i mean t3 is still solid not saying it isnt an impressive showing, because it is, but you're not exactly handicapping yourself much either.

[fluid grotto]

what t3

[somber cairn]

taihou

[fluid grotto]

why would he handicap himself

[somber cairn]

im saying taihou isnt that much of a handicap. she's t3, not tn

anyway this isnt the place to continue discussion

[fluid grotto]

tierlist

[somber cairn]

objectively taihou is a ton better than a lot of other ships

[velvet adder]

compared to single skill old ships yeah, its sad

every ship now gets 3 skills minimum

would be nice to see older ships get a new skill or so, but i understand its probably very taxing on the devs to make like 400 new skills

[somber cairn]

maille breze

[velvet adder]

although a workaround i like is a % buff to year old ships

3 different auxes

30% year one 20% year 2 10% year 3 boost to all stats

[toxic sail]

i'm not handicapping myself

i just want to point out in my feedback that the skill changes that occurred last year were really helpful and included a screenshot as proof that taihou became less rng-reliant (A-rank so solid evidence that it was taken from one auto fight only, not multiple rerolls)

and yeah, she's in my boss fleet ever since i got her from wishing well last year since she's Taih0u imo

[velvet adder]

the skill changes were nice i think but for DD's the changes were really lazy

I dont think the buffs were big enough for all but the best of the DDs

(who were already really well off and near the top of the power curve)

[sinful cloud]

About the upcoming rerun build item, wondering if its going to be only for the events' ships or smth you can save to use anywhere
Could really use that for I19, been months and the darn cat doesnt want to appear

[velvet adder]

maybe a point for that would be to add the same item to wishing well?

[somber cairn]

oh god can u imagine how op enty would be? blanket buffing based on age isnt gonna work

[sinful cloud]

Works too

[velvet adder]

I mean shinano is already kinda op i think enty would maybe be on par

[somber cairn]

i wasnt exactly aiming it at you tbh, just ryuu's claim that it's waifu fleet. it is because shes your waifu, but generally the understanding is 'waifu fleet' refers to tn or waifu tier.

[somber cairn]

enty doing +60% more damage would just be complete bullshit ngl shed be on hakuryuu level

[velvet adder]

I do thing the "its ur waifu you shouldnt care" is kinda a lazy dismissive thing

Even if they are peoples waifus it would be nice if my waifus got a buff

[somber cairn]

^

[velvet adder]

not everyones waifus are as lucky as taihou (my DD's getting the trashy aux buff wow)

[somber cairn]

nobody wants their waifu to be garbage. except masochists

im lucky my girl got halved AoA (best buff) but shes still really really garbage.

[velvet adder]

i mean even with the buffs nobody really uses any DD's outside of shimakaze or yuudachi with her new retro (since they are new ships and just singular they got a lot of love and care in balancing)

[somber cairn]

well there's a few: shima, poikai, suzu, kazagumo, kita, and maybe tashkent/sumner/z46 kinda.

but yea everyone else in the dd list is poop relative to endgame content

[fluid grotto]

at the end of the day it's a waifu game, just play whatever units you like

[copper bolt]

ngl, isn't it better to get new ships with new skills rather than just add new skills to old ships?

[velvet adder]

i guess but that means leaving some waifus behind at the dock

and with the secretary limit :) i cant even see them

[inner frost]

I fail to see why we can't have both, besides possible dev time, but updating older ships would be a very welcome change in my book.

[somber cairn]

at the end of the day everyone wants their waifu to be strong so that statement is never gonna stop people.

[fluid grotto]

idw using old ship over and over, that's boring
rather have better ship everynow and then

[copper bolt]

ofc we can have both, it's just as you said. It'll take more effort on the side of the devs and more creativity on making new skills that fit/aren't busted

[fluid grotto]

its a game with over 500+ units, cant expect them all to be useful and balanced

[copper bolt]

as a result, there's almost no way updating skills and introducing new ones with new ships will be faster than just releasing new ships with new skills.

[somber cairn]

just because it would be difficult does not mean we should not advise feedback on it.

[fluid grotto]

yep you can always try

[copper bolt]

well i never explicitly said to not do it, just what potential outcome that could come from the suggestion

[somber cairn]

give every dd with decent fp or mg efficiency mgm+1 and boom, most of them become usable or even good

[copper bolt]

what about CLs

[fluid grotto]

welp that explained your understanding on game balancing

[somber cairn]

do i look like a game designer to you? ofc not

[fluid grotto]

yeah nothing wrong with that
that's why it's allowed to have a discussion here
altho most of time it's derailed far off

and they alr did the buff with last dd revamp few months ago

[somber cairn]

the buff only helped top tier dd tbh. i think they know how to balance as much as i do

[eternal bronze]

the torpedo buff was useless and i can hardly say that the aux one helped much besides giving more HP with toolboxes

some ships also got a buff that had nothing to do with their skills

and stats

unironically the aux stat buff would have worked much better for torpedo DDs that uses oxy torps

[somber cairn]

torp buff was decent for autoplay, but it couldve been better.

[fluid grotto]

half aoa is pretty good
having torps dd with 50% extra stat just stright up broken

[eternal bronze]

the auto play torp buff is a separate one

[somber cairn]

honestly all 3 buff shouldve gone to all dd by default, with shitty dds getting additional stat improvements as well

[fluid grotto]

the torps pretty wtv

[somber cairn]

i meant torp spread reduction helps on auto quite a bit

[cloud sable]

yea spread reduction combined with the aiming made it significantly better imo, people really underplay the spread reduction

[somber cairn]

the aimed change, torp spread buff, and mag torps combined make torping semi reliable on auto nowadays

[fluid grotto]

the revamp is pretty good overall

[eternal bronze]

i think the DD buffs should have been a player choice

[fluid grotto]

no

[somber cairn]

i dont get why they didnt just give all 3 buff to all dd

[eternal bronze]

but that could have opened doors to broken things so idk

i just wish my Z2 would have got the AoA buff

[somber cairn]

sure shima and poi would be even more op but then bad dds would suck less, a fair trade.

[eternal bronze]

giving her the torpedo one was really unfair

[fluid grotto]

imagine torps ship with 50% more stat from oxy
yep balance

[cloud sable]

probably so it gives them more avenues to play with in future DDs

[somber cairn]

it's 30%. maybe it shouldve been 50% tho

[eternal bronze]

very ironic when you said you wanted more UR ships into the game

[fluid grotto]

well you get the point

how is that ironic? i want more waifu

[cloud sable]

more stat from oxytorp isnt as significant as you think since torp focused DDs have hundreds of torp stat and +30% stat from 2 oxytorps is just 60 more trp, like its nice but not as amazing as you think it is

[somber cairn]

that's fair but then they shouldve gone over a lot of dd and just blanket buff their overall stat spreads

[eternal bronze]

yeah idk how thats broken

you are burning survivability for dmg

[somber cairn]

i want more waifu but i also want my current waifu to be good

[fluid grotto]

60 x sortie buff, yep

[somber cairn]

anyway UR ships arent balanced, so

[cloud sable]

ye they shouldve given all DDs like +500 hp or something idk
instead of +eva like they did

[somber cairn]

the eva also help tbh, some dd had super low eva for their class. it shouldve been +300 hp +25 eva tho imo

[eternal bronze]

EVA more than 200 is pretty much useless without rate so yeah

pointless buff

[somber cairn]

its not useless its just not as effective

[fluid grotto]

it's pretty much useless

HP is their main problem

[somber cairn]

more eva does increase survivability, especially high% evabuff can diminish the effect of enemy hit. altho evarate+luck is better

the eva buff definitely helped tho, especially for ships with low eva or high hp already. just need to add hp as well to it.

[fluid grotto]

diminishing

helps on low eva ship like CA

[somber cairn]

the difference between 180 and 260 eva is still noticeable, actually.

id say it stops being noticeable around 275, but eh. mostly bc each % evarate vs high hit require more and more evastat. which is why +eva% is still decent, just not as good as evarate.

also eva remains highly significant vs mobs who have low accuracy. good for mobbing dds

[fluid grotto]

you wont notice much on high lvl campaign when enemies actually stop missing

better off with HP aux

[somber cairn]

im talking base stats, not aux. ofc you put hp aux

all im saying is the eva buff did help a bit. but a hybrid buff wouldve been better

or... give all dds +5% evarate by default

[fluid grotto]

they'll have shelling protection in the future according on livestream few months back

probably will help their survivability

yeah eva rate would be nice, eva stat buff pretty luckluster
you might find it useful on lower map tho

[split gyro]

I take a few "op" DDs if it means all of them receive all 3 buffs. 2 of them aren't even that great.

[fluid grotto]

yuudachi is gonna be broken af with all 3 buffs

[split gyro]

who cares? the game drowns us in op URs anyway starting 2022.

[somber cairn]

oh the melee thing? is meant to protect dds? didnt know that specific bit, neat

[somber cairn]

im in w13 and im pretty sure my dd would be squishier pre-buff

[split gyro]

at this point, really, who cares if a girl becomes broken or op? devs opened the floodgates with urs now. might as well make more girls "op"

[somber cairn]

i agree, idc about the top tiers being op as long as the trash becomes more viable or easier to use in hard content

[fluid grotto]

dont you all bickering about ship being too op few hrs back

[somber cairn]

well that was concern about dev forgetting nonUR rarity exist. this is on blanket buffing all ships

[fluid grotto]

balans

[sinful cloud]

If everyone's op then nobody is op, problem solved

[fluid grotto]

that makes alot of sense

[cloud sable]

just btw there was no mention melee equips were to protect DDs they just demonstrated it with laffey

[somber cairn]

portdoll

[trim chasm]

Idk where to put this so I'll just put it here since it's related to game stuff I guess

Coin cap

[raw quest]

just click confirm

[trim chasm]

Like legit tho

The game stops functioning at coin cap

Can't do comms

Can't do any story as well

[raw quest]

idk buy cats, buy all the boxes in general shop or everything coin based in shop to waste coin.

[trim chasm]

I feel like this is a historic moment for me

So I'll keep it a bit longer

[ornate basin]

so whats your feedback?

[trim chasm]

Nothing really

Just surprised 600K was the cap

I thought it was like 1mil or smth

[ornate basin]

try #al-general next time then

[somber cairn]

my feedback then is to raise coin cap now that we got a ton of income. 1m would be nice, or a bit higher. the space where coin number is shown has enough space for 7 digits i think, so.

[ornate basin]

okay

[somber cairn]

is the feedback okay? i was serious about it

[plain coral]

office lady skins

[split gyro]

the soft cap for coins is pathetic. Double it. Hell, triple it and it would be somewhat enough. Remember that we need 300k for the 4 UR a year. Never understood why the coin soft cap is so low.

Really thought that soft cap would be buffed by now after the coin economy buffs.

or another solution would be to just let us collect merchant, even past the soft cap

that's the only thing blocked when past soft cap, the merchant

[velvet adder]

I purchased a brand new Volume 1 of the Anime thinking I was going to be able to get the Enterprise skin but unfortunately I learned that it expired in May. I think it's kind of unfair that the codes didn't last 2 years and there was no way to know until I opened the box

And the site where you redeem is still up but it's for the slow ahead stuff

I emailed the support email to see if anything can be done but I'm not getting my hopes up

[hearty crane]

"Remember that we need 300k for the 4 UR a year."
No, we don't. Getting so tired of the "You NEED 300k and NEED 400 cubes". It's a MAX, not a MIN. Stooooop it.

[velvet adder]

Also the listings for it on eBay basically all of them don't realize they're selling an expired code when they sell brand new because it doesn't say the expiration date for it on the box. I paid 95 dollars so ofc I'm a bit disappointed

[fluid grotto]

well thats rough,
but they did inform that in the official site when the br released.

[velvet adder]

I was tough on money for a while and I finally was able to get the first one thinking I was gonna be able to get the skin lol. Why it expired only like a year and a half after release I don't know

It's basically punishing people like me that didn't have the money for it at the time

Pain.

[fluid grotto]

probably to prevent scalper/hoarder?

[velvet adder]

It's awful frankly because I only found out after the seller I bought Volume 2 from because I wanted Belfast as well said it had expired

[cloud sable]

well you could try contacting support ([e-mail]) about it who knows if theyre generous they might still give it to you

especially if their records dont show it as having been used

[velvet adder]

I sent them an email, fingers crossed

if not then maybe the dvd is a lil damaged from transit and can be returned

[stark elm]

can we pls have some IB retros?

thanks for listening to my TED talk

[copper bolt]

They don't accept suggestions for retrofits unfortunately

[jolly parrot]

Strategic search doesn't auto call in subs when it's below the specified amount

Might be a bug or just not currently added

[cursive horizon]

I'll repeat the suggestion for loading screen selector. I really want less giant breasts in skimpy clothes when I'm playing the game, please. I don't know why the heck they haven't implemented it yet, it's been a highly requested feature for years now. Instead, we have the seemingly useless Gallery which just has a handful of pictures we can.. I don't know, look at and go "huh" and then nothing happens.

[wheat yoke]

would be cool if from the gallery it has more arts and/or the recent ones and we can select which loading screens we can get. If the player selects none from the gallery, it defaults to just the AL logo

Adds some customization that allows players to pick which loading screens they want, still have the gallery present where people can look at the images and answers the issue of very lewd loading screens cause people can just not pick those, but still have them available in the gallery to remember it's in the game

[cursive horizon]

I was so disappointed when the Gallery first came out, cause I thought that'd be what we could do with it.

[slate monolith]

We need more lewd loading screens, like that one onsen scene we had since day one

[cursive horizon]

Only if we can turn them off. I'm so tired of lewd. Feels like the game was a lot less about lewd a year and a half ago. The loading screens were a lot tamer almost three years ago when I joined, too. At least the bathhouse one covered up a lot and was like.. one screen out of a dozen. Now the lewd ones are like 1 in 3 or something.

Having more wholesome outfits would also get folks like myself more interested in buying them. I sure ain't shelling out money for bunny girls or bathing suits. For me, the best ones were the school outfits and the casual wear, the road trip stuff like Cleveland and Essex have are really great, too.

[fierce ember]

yeah,cuz cats are not enough and honestly arent worth it
prs...those end quick even with how huge the sink is on pr 1
aside from coin shop and ships themselves there aint left

[fluid grotto]

done with all of that, pretty much only cat left as coins sink

[fierce ember]

honestly they could be left as a good coinsink,but just made actually good

[somber cairn]

cats are a pretty good minmaxing tool, i feel, however for lategame i think the 24hr cd on resetting them may make it too slow of a coin dump for some people. possibly shortening that cd would be a good benefit?

[fierce ember]

again,cats could be more then just one aux slot worth of stats for huge coin sink

[runic tartan]

Think 8-12h would be decent imo. But you can outpace that no prob

[somber cairn]

8 hours sounds reasonable

cats could be buffed slightly (at least their special skills should be imo, they almost dont exist, most useful is the preemptive strike ones lol). but i dont think it's too important. just get flame+mountain on all your cats 5head.

[fluid grotto]

lots good cats skills, preemtive is one of the less useful one, but a buff wouldnt hurt.

[fierce ember]

do i need to remind you that cats skills do not buff more then 1.2% of a stat they buff?that is not good in any way shape or form,other skills do not even work in the first place like +1 movement or 1 eva stat on cvs
slight buff not gonna fix any of that

[somber cairn]

it's the only one i ever notice happening, and 8-13% max hp cut is pretty nice.

i suppose it's less useful once you have a sub fleet

[fluid grotto]

talents is your main stat sources

[fierce ember]

except i talk about skills,not talents,talents have their own issues

[somber cairn]

but yeah honestly cat skill is inconsequential that i forget they exist half the time

[fierce ember]

which is why people refer to talents as skills like above

[somber cairn]

definitely wouldnt hurt to buff them a whole bunch.

[fluid grotto]

bisha,edelweiss,bunny,antenna to name few cats with better skill

[fierce ember]

like a skill you cant make use of or a skill that gives 1 eva stat on cvs?
i dont see why you keep defending a system that is obviously outdated and the only change it had in 3 years was the EXP cattery update

[fluid grotto]

theres only 2 slot of cats and you dont need to use the obvious bad one.
atm there is enough of the good one to fill a full rooster of opsi.
if u want to bring "balance" to all cats and by all mean send a ticket,alr said before a buff wouldnt hurt
anyway if u wanna continue to debating on cat minmaxing can do it in general instead

[hearty crane]

"The loading screens were a lot tamer almost three years ago when I joined, too."

[somber cairn]

theyre so small i dont even remember what any of them do, and i use bisha and antenna

[fluid grotto]

#amagi-general

[hearty crane]

Edelweiss is the sub cat so range, bunny gives a barrage after 2 years I still dont know if it even works since it doesn't seem to do anything, probably doesn't. Got me on the other two, would have to check. But yeah, preload and the 2 subcats (screw the third one) are the only good skills.

I rermember as newbie I would use elite cats over SR cause their skills were so garbage. Additional talents won over that though...

[fierce ember]

bishamaru third skill is tied to having only one CV in your fleet which makes you question why would you use bisha in the first place
and her second skill is literally 1 eva stat
i just feel very confused on why noone ever cared to change this system over 3 years,and not even sure if my loads of feedback and trying to push this are gonna help

[fluid grotto]

send a ticket maybe thatd work

[fierce ember]

already did a while back

[somber cairn]

i agree cat skill need big buff

[cursive horizon]

When I joined, the only lewd loading screen was the bathing one, which I saw people complain about. The next time I saw one people complained about was the U-556 camel toe one (although it's lewd for an entirely different reason). After that, we had the infamous huge boobs Halloween one that got swiftly (and rightly) removed. You can look at the loading screen page on the wiki, the older ones are at the bottom. Most of them are nowhere near the level of lewd we have today.

I think it was around the time of the second anniversary that they started having more lewd/lewder loading screens mixed in. More emphasis on provocative poses, exposed chest/legs, etc.

[covert temple]

Do you really want to make cats so relevant that they become a must have? Cats are RNG machines, some people haven't got a single good cat in years

I'm all for cats being relevant but we need to remove or lower the RNG first, I have dumped over 300k coins into a Level 30 Bishamaru and the damn thing still cannot get good skills

[fierce ember]

i dont remember saying that they should be rng machines in any of my cards
the rng in the formula
"get good box* get right cat* get good starting talents* get good talents for levels"
could pretty much exist without rng talents part with making them directly buyable

[somber cairn]

cat skill, not talent. cat skill is always the same, and generally almost worthless atm.

[slate anvil]

For meowfficer I would like to see an option that lets you lock one or more talents before resetting.
Depending on the amount and rarity it would cost more coins and use up paw prints.

[fluid grotto]

alr submitted meowficer safety net before but nowhere in trello

[covert temple]

You know what I meant

[normal vine]

<@&524220645349916701> please attach to 5483 (wrote that suggestion during maintenance, so I couldn't grab a screenshot of what I mean)

[inner frost]

I have to say that it feels really weird to see "you" apologize for accidentally selling 8 old limited skins that weren't supposed to be sold, correct this and apologize that this happened. "Oh we are sorry that you could buy old skins that you missed and probably wanted, but we have now fixed this issue and those who bought them gets to keep them."
I honestly don't know what to feel about an "apology" like this.

[kind crest]

I agree. You accidently put up old skins for purchase go into maintenance for 2 more hours and the apology is
"oh sorry you can buy them later"
What?

[velvet adder]

i think its fine theyre adding them to purchase for a few days later to make up for it (29th to 31st) ur getting extra comp for it anyway so i dont see what the big problem is really

i honestly think the time limitedness of a lot of skins is dumb myself but what do i know

[split gyro]

The time limited skin mechanic is a bit strange. And "black friday" event makes it worse. Why bother purchasing skins over the year when they return later, and you get additional rewards (should Manjuu continue with Akashi's Firesale).

[inner frost]

Its the apology that is the problem. You can buy old skins and as a result the game got tossed into emergency maint, with a "were sorry that you could buy skins you wanted, but we didnt intend on doing it so we're sorry". Limited skins only exists to invoke fomo, which makes this apology even worse in many aspects.

[split gyro]

I think they would make more money with skins being on sale longer. Or rerun far more often

but again, I think the akashi firesale now makes people who pay for skins reconsider their purchases. maybe a lot just wait now and buy them then, and get the rewards. don't know

[flint imp]

delete warspite

[sinful cloud]

[turbid loom]

Oh boy. Another screwed up patch and another excuse to state that they need to work on the QA for this game.

And that this is the mistake that makes them strive to do better, not any of their other massive update or server issues.

[normal vine]

that'd be this one: https://trello.com/c/DVFqjLtf/1754-auto-battle-sub-fleet-option

Trello

Auto-battle: sub fleet option

Description: In addition to the current auto-battle options of having subs in every fight or none, I would like to have a third one that only calls them in when Emergency Status is triggered (i.e. when a Siren or boss spawns)
Discord Form Submission ID: 5483

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[limber jolt]

Has anyone suggested a way to convert excess bps to protocores if the ship is still not developed but has enough bps to fs5?

[sinful cloud]

Yep but another idea thats been left to rot

[trail elk]

Another fine Sirius/Dido loading screen to my collection
I appreciate the game for getting amazing artist to make their loading screen, hope for more screens and some skins someday soon

[nova girder]

Still hoping for that sfw / nsfw loading screen toggle 👴

[hasty mountain]

for a very brief time during an update some time ago, azur lane had included a much more modern package installer for updates, at least it seemed so because it displayed more info on the download, also I think it allowed the update to be downloaded without having the game open in the foreground... but it has since been removed, any plans to bring it back?

[formal oyster]

Is that definitive ? ( Ulrich's rigging )
This looks silly. Same for the censored cross on most Ironblood ships by the way, why not just use Ironblood emblem or something closer to the Iron Cross like Weser does ?

[sinful cloud]

Looks like a d-pad

[raw quest]

that's weird, this is what they showed in the trailer though

[formal oyster]

Now we need to know which one was the most recent

But even then, the simple cross thing is silly too. Not as much, but it could use a rework for something with more style to it

Hell, even her zipper has more class

[scarlet fractal]

hello, yostar. i would like the option to disable this notification for coin storage/oil storage being full. it bothers me when i'm trying to hoard gold for events.

also a fifth and sixth classroom slot would be poggers

[somber cairn]

forget that, id like coin and oil softcap to be expanded more we get so much more of both nowadays i think it's due for a revamping.

[timber grotto]

Faction medals for 36 120 ships

[fluid grotto]

might as well gold medal for 48 120 ships

[timber grotto]

No because I’m too far from 48 and I want the exact level I am at to be the highest level of flex possible

But seriously, more medals please

[fluid grotto]

60 120 ships for rainbow

[slate anvil]

can we first get more cognitive chips and then new medals?

[runic tartan]

That way KMS will never get it till future events

[fluid grotto]

scale down kms ships count

[wheat yoke]

Speaking of this

can KMS get another level for faction tech now?

I've been in a surplus ever since fleet tech got added and I left for nearly a year still see it's not been updated despite having a surplus of around 600~

And this me without having a MLB PR ones outside Roon and FdG and missing every ship from Strasser's event.

[somber cairn]

fully agree. not to mention we'll be getting like +300 kms points from the upcoming event lol

actually prolly even more

[wheat yoke]

Yeah that too

[eternal bronze]

Make UR gear BP aquisition more consistent in Research in case of bad RNG, its been 3 months and i have received nothing more than 3-4 BPS for the Tenrai (sitting at 27 rn), its actually disgusting how PR5 will come and i will be nowhere near finishing it.

[split gyro]

coin soft cap is pathetic. the only thing it prevents is us collecting merchant. just let us collect merchant even when we're over the softcap. Come on. Or either buff the super, super low soft cap, or remove it entirely and just use the hard cap of 600k. After the coin economy revamp we need this.

[scenic flower]

Just focus on G-531-MI, D-0XX-UL and golden face researches. I got my Tenrai some days ago. Ofc you have to spend a lot of coins and sometimes cubes, but otherwise you'll spend another year in expectations.

[eternal bronze]

i do them every single day

honestly idk whats wrong with my acc anymore

[fluid grotto]

they probably dont raise kms cus lack of kms ships in perm/campaign loot

just let me have my rainbow ijn medal

[copper bolt]

cube researches do not drop gear prints

[fluid grotto]

cubes are H

[copper bolt]

Silence wrote "sometimes cubes" which is a bit misleading.

[fluid grotto]

UL costs cubes probably that

yes it does

[copper bolt]

oh nvm mb

[fluid grotto]

i saw that

[copper bolt]

Gear researches have been buffed already. If you've looked in trophy room a lot of people have been getting their first tenrai around now which is ~5-6 months since PR4 release. Compare this to previous seasons where it took ~1 yr for a casual player.

do u want them to be buffed further? Because at the rate you're obtaining them, other people will have 2 tenrais by the time u get 1.

[eternal bronze]

i mean i've seen people obtaining their second Tenrai already, what difference would it make really?

i just want it to be more consistent in case if the RNG cucks you for a long time

[formal oyster]

I feel like researches just need more consistency overall. The amount of difference there can be between two people doing the same researches and playing roughly the same amount of time can be hilariously huge

With one of my guildmate we're basically doing the same researches and playing everyday actively, except he has 100 more Agir prints and 200 more Hakuryuu prints. That's insane.

[wheat yoke]

But you can legitly just get over 2k with the perma kms ships now, and that's me without Mainz, a MLB Odin and Agir.
This much doable now with Bisko's event on perma and we're getting a new KMS event with a UR.

at least 1 more level should exist now, it's been over a year ever since this cap

[slate anvil]

Yeah, a bit more consistency would be appreciated.
Maybe implementing a gear specific research for rainbow gear would help a bit.

[fluid grotto]

not my point,
kms was lacking the ship count thats why their tp and tech lvl had been scaled differently than the other 3
if they wanna to raise kms tech level they probably need to rescale it with more ship added to perma pool

[wheat yoke]

just literally add 1 more level now

[fluid grotto]

submit 👉 #bot-spam

[wheat yoke]

Aight will do

[sinful cloud]

Or you know, the gear lab exists

[wheat yoke]

okey but can you help on what's the command, I'm looking at the pins here and there and it doesn't say

[fluid grotto]

jsut type !submit and belfast bot will pm you

[wheat yoke]

Ohh thanks thanks

[copper bolt]

for future reference u can read the instructions here

[wheat yoke]

noted

[robust tusk]

!submit

[agile otter]

Form Submission :: Activate Submission

Activating form submission. Please check your DMs.
Please note that you can only send one submission at a time.

[stone valley]

i feel like the UR events are too close to eachother and should be more rarer if you know what I mean

[worn mirage]

like once or twice a year?

[split gyro]

4 a year plus at least 1 rerun is excessive. I agree. every other event is now UR. imo it takes out all the excitement. Including preludes, over 3 months of a year are now reserved just for UR events. including at least 1 rerun makes almost 4 months exclusively UR. we have to wait how it goes for the playerbase but I think it's too much

[formal oyster]

I don't think it's been confirmed that the 4 UR are new gacha ones though. Maybe it's 3+1 retrofit (like this year), or 2+2 retrofits.

[split gyro]

more retrofits would be nice. impactful retrofits. sr to ssr or even ur. feels like we barely get those impactful retrofits anymore. we had Ark and Yuudachi. That was kind of it for 2021.

the game just hands out so many retrofits prints. you would think we get far more retrofits, no? events, mini events, daily hard mode. but all we got was 2

[worn mirage]

QE retro to give HMS a proper support battleship please

[formal oyster]

Independence as well. To be fair I'd say 2021 was a pretty nice year for retrofits, comparatively speaking.
But more of them will always be welcome. The powercreep is ramping and most ships just can't keep up.

[cloud sable]

im pretty sure the stream mentioned it would specifically be 4 new gacha UR

[velvet adder]

yeha i mean they did 3, 4 isnt really a huge step up

[somber cairn]

i do agree, that UR should actually be ultra rare

[velvet adder]

pretty sure they also mentioned increasing the output of UR bulins

since with 4 UR a year you would be at maximum capacity for ur bulins recieved

(with no UR dupes of course)

[somber cairn]

i thought it was? if it is including retro UR id be way happier

[cloud sable]

thats not the problem though because if you think about it, for every new UR it would mean you need to rerun them sometime
which means eventually if we continue at 4 new a year that means 4 new + 4 rerun a year which is wayyyy too much
that said, if it was like total 4 a year? thats fine imo.

[velvet adder]

yeah if they did reruns people literally would not be able to keep up and lb them (if they dont already have the current ones)

i feel like theres gonna be issues that the devs are gonna have to try and bandaid fix like usual

[summer spindle]

They said they would increase the rate of ur bulins in the stream

[somber cairn]

8 a year is just no hell no.

how is 8 a year still ultra rare to me it vastly reduces the appeal of them as rare units

[velvet adder]

im pretty sure theyre just establishing the new tier UR and replacing the gold tier

[somber cairn]

that's also not including UR retros which id much prefer

[summer spindle]

But yeah that's way too many urs a year

[velvet adder]

just so that they can add 1.2% to the gacha

[somber cairn]

not including DRs from pr5 and beyond, too

oh yeah 8 UR a year really devalues DRs as a whole bc why grind research 6 months to max a DR when you can just omegalul roll for an equally strong unit on day 1

[formal oyster]

Maybe then, my lack of Japanese comprehension
That'd be a lot though, I think 3 was fine. I guess we'll see at the end of the year. Apparently for reruns they thought of a new system if I understood that correctly
Maybe they'll apply it to URs and so it would not be that much of an issue ? Dunno, will see.

[somber cairn]

the DRs then would need to be notably STRONGER than the average UR to justify the grind. at which point powercreep is accelerating to the moon

tbh my ideal would be 2 UR + 2 UR rerun + 2 DR + 2 UR retro per year. happy balance.

[velvet adder]

yeah DR's are basically dogwater at this point

[cloud sable]

i mean if this is just the inital push to get a few more URs into the game to add a UR section to perma banner i think thats fine, but it would be nice if the devs communicated with us what their plans were, like maybe say they wont exceed 4 total UR a year in the future or something
cuz rn it just feels like extreme powercreep and making UR devalued

[somber cairn]

pr5 gonna creep haku and agir to the moon to keep up with URspam xD

[velvet adder]

whats the point at throwing mass resources at a DR when theyre barely on par with UR's

fdg still no fate 5 because she "doesnt need it" and shes "already too op" wait until new H class comes out

[somber cairn]

tbf haku and agir are really really really strong, so that justifies the grind atm. however that's with 3 UR/year. im not sure how 4 + adding reruns would fare.

[velvet adder]

idk haku is like on par with shinano?

[cloud sable]

i mean the problem for me isnt getting the UR, its the devaluation of UR rarity and the implied powercreep (which would be vastly accelerated if we got 4 new UR a year) of the game
and plus it would make for a really shitty new player experience

[somber cairn]

haku can regularly outdamage shinano i think, altho she does want shinano to support her

[velvet adder]

sure haku might be here for now but with new UR's if you dont already have her she will not be worth building at all

[somber cairn]

yeah so many UR really makes it stop being 'ultra rare'

[cloud sable]

and as i said before, if they promise to only do 4 UR gacha TOTAL a year, thats something id be fine with
and its sustainable too cuz they can just run 1 new on CN anniv and 1 new on JP anniv, and then have 2 reruns through the year

[somber cairn]

i know it's just a name, but there definitely used to be something special about rainbow border. im afraid that feeling will go away soon

[summer spindle]

Unless they're removing the pr system and this is their way of compensating 🧢

[somber cairn]

and i agree, 4 UR gacha total including reruns would be totally fine

[formal oyster]

Yeah yeah, it's basically everyone's concern. 90% of the ships already struggled keeping up even when we only had Shinano, so what will it be now.

[somber cairn]

w14 and hard arbiter, to their credit being entirely optional contents, exacerbate the issue imo. bc the harder the content, the harder it is to use units you like, especially when you have a ton of super OP URs raining down on you. but caving into meta pressure in a waifu game just feels wrong to me.

on the other hand, if they start releasing content balanced around full rainbow fleets, at some point you will have to use meta just to keep up. and that is something i don't want.

[formal oyster]

As much as I don't like the research system, I really don't want PR to get away, it's such a nice system. Getting 5 to 6 powerful waifus like that in an update, that you have to work towards, it's always exciting when they come out.
It's the imbalanced Rng of the Research system that ruins it all.

[somber cairn]

i like PR. it feels like working hard to make your waifu good, which is honestly something i wish existed for a whole bunch of bad ships. the whole grind of pr, while a bit slow, definitely feels rewarding at the end.

[copper nest]

pr is pointless when we're getting never existing ships in events 😐
or at least I always thought it's a way to add something not real to the game

[somber cairn]

yea that too, i dont like that paper ship are in gacha more now

[summer spindle]

And pr doesn't matter if we get as good or better ships in an event, no reason to grind for them

[somber cairn]

to me, it's fine if they were at least partially constructed or laid down, like z46. but if they never existed beyond a concept plan...they should be PR

[cloud sable]

Well to be fair PR is a WoWs collab so theyre limited by what ships exist there
IMO though paper ships in event are fine, though i defintely think they should branch out to maybe WWI era ships instead of just resorting to paper ones

[somber cairn]

i wish they expand pr system to include being able to research upgrades to make bad ships better. i think it would be a novel way to buff bad ships.

[formal oyster]

Yep, that's also another issue I have, paper ships in gacha. They had such a good dynamic going on with fantasy ships being in PR and real ships in gacha, I think that was quite tasteful.
Now it goes all over the place

[somber cairn]

basically every month or so they could add some garbage tier ships to research where you can gain bonus strengthening items from general research by focusing on a specific ship, and that can buff her stats and eventually upgrade her skills

[copper nest]

I just want pr gone lmao don't care about paper ships in build xd

[formal oyster]

Hmm I like that idea. Something like META where it regularly adds a ship to strengthen, only here this would be older ships to make them more useful.

[somber cairn]

i like pr but the system could be improved to have less rng

[drowsy harness]

Tbf, 2 H-39 class BBs were laid down, they just never progressed much further than that.

[somber cairn]

ah well in that case im ok with them being gacha tbh

cuz they still existed and that means by AL lore standard their consciousness can be called into existence via wisdom cubes. I think

[velvet adder]

also yeah i just got stuck in fog on a stronghold would be nice if all fog was removed, literally all of it

so auto isnt dumdum and gets itself stuck

[stuck pine]

I might overgrinded a little cuz i have maxed formation at lv80 xd

[split gyro]

given how they haven't changed the new ops auto mode, I wager this is intentional, the auto mode stopping when all enemies are in the "fog of war". if that really is intentional, then this auto mode is utterly pointless

unless they want us to splurge 5k oil to remove it. then I just ask again what the point of the new auto mode is. just so it switches zones on its own?

I genuinely just do not understand what the point of the ops auto mode is, if it only works when you splurge your 5k oil. at that point you can auto the maps anyways

and of course it also ignores missions and just jumps randomly. so not even helpful with that and still have to do them manually (as in select the zone then hit auto search. just like before)

[somber cairn]

no idea why strategic search exists yeah. for normal auto it works ok you just recon the map then press auto, repeat every 30min for explorable/hidden etc. on secured auto work perfectly

[split gyro]

strategic search is so halfbaked and useless. to a hilarious degree

unless you really just want to point and aimlessly repeat zones... for whatever reason. the rewards are pathetic for that. and again, it ignores missions. stops when the fog of war is present, etc. so... bad?

[formal oyster]

"the rewards are pathetic for that."

[split gyro]

are they not? just going through secured zones again yields almost nothing substantial

might as well save that time and just wait for daily missions

[velvet adder]

i mean i was in a stronghold and i used the recon it still had some "cloud" on it but i heard they removed most of it because it blocked auto

[formal oyster]

Gotta collect those stars to get cubes, gold plates and other good shit in the completion tab

[velvet adder]

but i guess they didnt remove it all and auto still occasionally will walk into it stupidly to get a box

and then cant figure out how to get out

[somber cairn]

c5 spam is how you use up leftover ap and cat nodes can always drop something good if lucky

[eternal bronze]

imo the game will not be the same with the 4 new URs per year goal

you can see they are doing this for money which is fair since its their game and they are a company

but if they do no counter measures to keep the new power level powercreep at bay all ships with rarities below will start sinking

rn we have Shinano, NJ and Shimakaze next year they will make a DR even more powerful than both im pretty sure of it and they will try to make new UR ships at a similar power between

[somber cairn]

[eternal bronze]

giving how they have no clue on balancing this game and now they are blantatly pushing powercreep in absurd levels in order to sell i can tell its gonna turn into a dumpster fire in 2 years

and im being very nice about it to give 2 years

might start next year maybe

[fluid grotto]

just send ticket about reducing UR count by next year and done with it

[eternal bronze]

i will send one soon but i don't think it will change anything cuz they are already working on it

[fluid grotto]

most likely wont do anything.
but going back and forth for week with the same topic,
i just dont think there'ss room for discussion left there.
just send a ticket bout what you strongly feel about the changes and move on.

[somber cairn]

i seriously hope not, i love this game and only discovered it recently

[ionic matrix]

could we maybe have a option to disable the themed music when on the home screen? Make it go back to the regular stuff?
The christmas stuff is highly repetitive, and gets rather annoying after only a few loops. I'd rather not turn the BGM volume down all the way because I like the other BGMs in the game. Just some of the home port/screen BGMs can get annoying to listen to constantly.

[scenic flower]

And I'm tired of original BGM. While the Xmas BGM makes me sick already. We want the in-game music player! Can you hear us, devs? So we could make the playlists for each menu/battle mode. Also, the gear-implanted tracks must be detatched and appear in this music player instead. Coz using these pieces of gear is troublesome, when you have to listen to music you don't like.

Oh, and there are also skins' BGMs...

[stone valley]

i love the Xmas music

[cursive horizon]

Very disappointed that the maid outfits are placing emphasis on sex appeal and awkward designs, rather than on simply being cute maid outfits. Some of them don't even look functional, which is a problem I've had with several of the Royal Navy maid designs like Belfast. I'm aware that I'm probably the only focal person around on this sort of topic, but I need to at least say something. I was hoping when we got past the awful bunny outfits we'd get something better. As someone who normally likes maid outfits, these do nothing for me cause it's more like "sexy cosplay" than actually trying to make them look like maids.

I hear that CN is upset about Hakuryuu, so at least there's others who think it looks awful and out of character. I suppose they're the only ones the devs will listen to, eh?

[somber cairn]

haku maid looks better than her default, at least, although i agree it is a bit off-character

[copper bolt]

if people don't like a skin, they won't buy it right? That will tell the devs that sort of skin is not that popular so they might make less of them. In the end it's down to personal taste right? A lot of the new skins seem fine to me, ofc there are a few that are a bit weird but it's all done by independent artists. Also assuming devs don't listen is really presumptuous.

like this, I don't see how it's focusing on sex appeal or how it's an awkward design

[cursive horizon]

So far I think Bismarck's is the only one that isn't.

[copper bolt]

then you could have specified rather than use a blanket statement right?

i think it's better if you specify which skins you have a problem with like you did with haku. That's all

[cursive horizon]

Ah, I did speak incorrectly, you are right! Also, a lot of people assume the devs don't listen cause we say many things, make many feedback suggestions, and nothing happens. So it's kind of an understandable feeling.

..I must apologize for forgetting my beloved Bismarck in all the fuss about the other designs. My guild has been discussing the inconsistent or out-of-character designs and I had just touched upon Bismarck's awkward party dress. So that was fresher in my mind than the maid outfit.

[formal oyster]

Everything is subjective regarding skins anyway. You'll love some, you'll dislike some, that's just how it goes. I can understand if you want something more "vanilla" and less skimpy for some ships, but that's kind of the business model of the game. If that makes them enough money this way so that they don't have to push monetization elsewhere, I guess it's a fair trade.

[fluid grotto]

skins are subjective, cant really push your preference for the game as a whole. as far as i know your so called awful bunny series are enjoyed by many people.
i mean lets be real here, sexy anime girl probably the reason why most people even playing this game

and idk what to tell you, there are some good stuff among the new maid set

[scenic flower]

You may even like the bunny skins, but if their quality kinda sux, then... you know.

[formal oyster]

And hey, if you don't like the skins, it saves you money

[fluid grotto]

just let the sale number be the judge to that

[cursive horizon]

Sadly, people like myself cannot "vote with our wallet" in order to make our feelings known. Saying what's on my mind and leaving feedback, even if it's not liked or welcome, is pretty much my only alternative besides simply staying quiet.

[copper bolt]

u can probably go directly to the independent artists who were commissioned to make them then

[velvet adder]

i wouldnt do that

[fluid grotto]

they don't take skin feedback to begin with so 🤷‍♂️

[wheat yoke]

Or also say it here cause it's still game feedback and have the devs route it to them. In fact, in such system it's good to be direct here so the devs themselves will know the feedback, not directly to the artist themselves.

[formal oyster]

Speaking of artist, I don't know if someone brought it up already but there's something wrong with Adalbert's art

Unless it's a new trend to have one booba twice as big as the other

[wheat yoke]

[velvet adder]

i mean irl booba are different sizes

i think its just cos shes spun to the side though

[formal oyster]

Come on now...

[velvet adder]

and the shirt came down on that side, looks okie to me anyway

[fluid grotto]

cry about it
literally how to get an art fix

[velvet adder]

dm dishwasher i mean hes in this server

[fluid grotto]

think there were few arts get fixed after enough people crying but dont remember which one

[copper nest]

Yeah some were fixed (not gneis meta leg tho), I wouldn't call it crying 🏴‍☠️

One I remember for sure (although it's rigging fix not character fix to be precise) was haku with guns

[fluid grotto]

yeah complaining/crying, you get the point

[ruby robin]

Don't know if this is outside of the scope of game-feedback, but please make the 50/50 UR gun prints in protocore shop reset annually

[somber cairn]

think that's just perspective

her other booba is blocked partially from view by the coat

[fleet salmon]

I think it looks fine, it's just that her boob is covered and the coat makes it look kinda weird.
Btw I agree with the opinion that Haku's skin doesn't fit her. No offense to the artist but I think they have her confused with Kumano.

[fluid grotto]

finally remember one, warspite kai base l2d
been stuck on the tip of my tongue

[cursive horizon]

I realize I often leave a comment and then vanish, cause I'm so used to being made fun of or told my opinion doesn't matter (here and elsewhere over the years). I apologize if my reactions are aggressive or rude. I'm not trying to be rude, I'm just scared of confrontations but still wanna speak my mind on a game that I've loved and enjoyed for 3 years.

[somber cairn]

[formal oyster]

I mean, the coat has nothing to do with it, there's the blue line that clearly shows there's a proportion issue.

[hearty crane]

How can you NOT vote with your wallet? And Bismarck will probably sell the least, so enjoy your naughty skins. Cause money talks best.

[somber cairn]

[hearty crane]

Its called perspective. One breast faces left, the other right. And looking at it from the right angle. Looks fine to me.

[somber cairn]

also considering bisko just archived and the amt of wehraboos im pretty sure bisko maid gonna sell very well.

[formal oyster]

Perspective makes one booba fall lower than the other ?
I forgot we can't say anything about German ships on this server, they're all perfect, nothing to see.

[eternal bronze]

Bisko skin is a good skin, has alot of facial expressions and will sell well considering how popular she is.

[somber cairn]

on the boob issue...that can happen to boobs

like one being larger and maybe sagging a bit

[formal oyster]

So it's ugly but intended ugly ? Fair. Weird but fair.

[scenic flower]

BTW, some of PRs has the only one emotion at their default skins. I think it's a shame

[somber cairn]

looks ok to me

[scenic flower]

I think so too

[somber cairn]

sorry didnt know only supremely round spherical perfect boobs are cute

[scenic flower]

pettanko is much more cute than cowboobs. It's a pity devs don't understand that

[formal oyster]

You cut too short on the right one and too large on the left one
Of course it would look ok like that

[hearty crane]

Boobs are never ugly... pssh

[somber cairn]

both are good honestly

i dont discriminate

[formal oyster]

And that's not the issue, at all. Inflated ballons are ugly ( to me ), here it's just proportion, asymmetry, unharmony.

[somber cairn]

i like all cute girls

[hearty crane]

(small justice!)

[somber cairn]

ok but boobs arent always proportional, i like that she has a flaw actually, it makes her more human and thus cuter

this is definitely a preference thing and that's fine, but i dont think there's anything really wrong with the art

[scenic flower]

But devs discriminate. They're too much into ultraboobs.

[somber cairn]

we get a bunch of cute smols all the time, i think it's pretty balanced

[scenic flower]

Most of t0 ships are ultraboobbed

[formal oyster]

Except she's not real (sorry), something like that in an artwork is generally a mistake, because drawings have this advantage of erasing small "defaults" ( you can like them but sill ), also I've never seen anything like that irl, unless big breast tumor.

[somber cairn]

yes bc most smolboob is dds and dds suffer apart from a few.

[scenic flower]

Only IJN DDs are like that, which is nothing.

[hearty crane]

Anyways, Dish probably used a reference of a real woman, and here everyone acts like breasts dont work that way...

[somber cairn]

hard to tell from the perspective if it is actually misshapen or not tbh.

either way i dont think its too big an issue even if there is one. did u look at QE default art recently

[eternal bronze]

Well at least the one we getting now which is Ulrich looks pretty balanced in terms of boobs

[formal oyster]

Does that mean all of the other arts of the game are wrong then ? Because she's the first one to feature something like that. And not even in the game, I've never seen such thing in any art.

[somber cairn]

[eternal bronze]

Im surprised she doens't have big bandokers like FDG

[somber cairn]

this is mostly nitpicking preferences. since most ppl see nothing wrong with it

eh i think ulrich is somewhat big but just hides them better

[eternal bronze]

It do be big but its not inflated

Hence balanced

[somber cairn]

elbe is a good size

[formal oyster]

~~Well again, it's probably my fault for pointing something bad about a German ship on ALO ~~

[somber cairn]

wdym

[formal oyster]

Anyway it's just chat at this point, I'm out

[somber cairn]

boob chat yea lets stop

[cursive horizon]

I'd probably gripe a lot less about the large breasted character designs if they were given outfits that fit them. So many seem to have a lot of trouble getting their breasts into the clothing so you have the boob hanging out over the sides, the really weird and unrealistic underboobs (which would just slide out after a bit of movement), and super low cut tops and...

...I don't know why I'm even saying anything, really. I'm sorry for bothering the Feedback channel again.

[eternal bronze]

Peak feedback hours AL being one the few games that can create discussions like this is sure unique

[somber cairn]

its bc a lot of ppl like sideboob and underboob ig. i agree that its a bit much at times

yuudachi underboob is though

[hearty crane]

I mean, thats the max we get, no full nudity allowed

[eternal bronze]

Sometimes its the smallest details that get people into it

[somber cairn]

full nudity in a CN game lel

[hearty crane]

Yes, indeed. Lets all complain about Yuudachi retro and her ridicilous lack of underboob.

[somber cairn]

sure u cant see it but it's obvious it's there, look at how short her top is

poikai's skin is one of my all time favorite designs in AL

i like also that instead of showing it, it teases it with implication instead. very nice.

[fleet salmon]

I think her boob isn't shaped the same as her bra is here or rather, one of the boobs is actually held up by the bra and the other isn't. Notice that it's slipping off on that side.

and those pups look heavy

[scenic flower]

Her chest is pressed by that strap

[fleet salmon]

to the side

enhancing that weird effect

[scenic flower]

btw, the bra strap is loosened, so it doesn't work as for the other boob

[fleet salmon]

yeah, this means her boobs are fine, she's just can't into wearing clothes properly

[scenic flower]

🤣

[somber cairn]

tbf it seems smol bra for such big knockers

[fleet salmon]

yeah this line here is from wearing a much too small bra

[somber cairn]

she like being uncomfortable or something? even properly sized bra for me feel uncomfy after a while, let alone something tiny ass like that

also i just realized, isnt her bra ripping in the middle or is that by design

[scenic flower]

yeah, I just thought that too =)

[somber cairn]

adalbert...girl...we gotta get u properly fitting clothes

[fleet salmon]

might be by design, the rips are symmetrical

[kindred junco]

#boobs-feedback

[scenic flower]

The boob discussion session went well

[somber cairn]

[scenic flower]

Now on the agenda is a discussion of the crotches.

[somber cairn]

no

[fluid grotto]

[slate monolith]

[scenic flower]

What, are you discriminating this women's part? Not tolerant

[slate monolith]

People don't know how angles work smh

While I am happy we are getting a new event I'm just hoping that the other factions that have been ignored as of late have some limelight for next year. Especially with the Vodka fleet and maybe even the Royals too

I only state this since it felt like it was Floof or Eagles most of this year, but then again it felt like a total blur at times about that

[void schooner]

Only faction that's really owed attention is HMS. As far as major events are concerned, they didn't get anything this year. Not even a rerun. So they're more than overdue.

[slate monolith]

Well here's hoping the Royals get some form of attention next year then

[fluid grotto]

delete hms and give more ijn events pls

[fierce ember]

you`r very much not the only one, but lets be real,majority of silent player base go "neuron activated" kind of reaction rather then using logic and that makes majority of "vote with your wallet" ineffective,others just stay quite about this and have their hope hope by buying something else
this is one of the reasons i WANT the game to have loading screen blacklist,bcs the game goes in to very revealing direction of outfits that sometimes can be well-made but still no for public,absolutely too revealing or just tasteless stuff that doesnt fit the character at all and feels like an eye-sore
you can just not buy overly lewd skins if you dont like them,but you cant do anything at all about overly lewd LS or LS you just dont like

[fluid grotto]

can always send a ticket without opening a discussion 👉 #bot-spam

[slate monolith]

I take it that you don't have a maid fetish then. Usually it's more about form over functionality. It's always best for a busty girl to wear a maid outfit, or at least have the essence of a maid of sorts

[cursive horizon]

I actually quite like maid outfits, but as with any clothing I think functionality is a vital feature. If the outfit is too tiny where they’d have to constantly adjust or tug, that’s not cute or appealing at all.

[slate monolith]

Well to each their own then my good sir

[hasty mountain]

Or you know, people will vote with their wallets, by buying the skins because they like them

[hasty mountain]

You don't need to post meowfficer boxes one by one like that, you know

[velvet adder]

Hahaha hms fans 🤡

[left estuary]

We need bikini maid Kashino outfit

[worn mirage]

I second that notion

[slate monolith]

We already have a swimsuit of Kashino already

[worn mirage]

it just needs a retrofit to include Maid qualities XD

[slate monolith]

[somber cairn]

[fluid grotto]

cow bikini maid kashino*

[slate monolith]

Why does everyone want to make that cow lewder?

She's lewd enough as is with her L2D swimsuit

[burnt perch]

Rework the skill leveling system, it's pure pain right now

[fierce ember]

you missed the whole point

[copper bolt]

I think you two are talking about different things. Red is talking about the skins, you're talking about custom image selection for loading screens.

[fierce ember]

yes,because LS are affected by skins we get,but i also think that the take "vote with your vallet rather then express feedback about skins" doesnt work,simply because we get more revealing outfits now then before and the very same people will buy them more,it just infuences the ratio in a way that doesnt make statistics work if most of the skins are lewd they will generate more profit then other categories naturally
there is a very simple reason why kashino mouse pad sold so well,and i dont think i need to tell you that it also goes like that for skins that we are getting most of the time now

[covert brook]

Do you...people understand why french maid outfits are liked?
Here's a spoiler: it's not for the cute factor.

[somber cairn]

speak for yourself, i find them cute

QE l2d is genuinely adorable and make me understand why so many ppl like her

[covert brook]

There will always be 1-2 exceptions, but french maids have always been portrayed as "sexy", whether you guys accept the truth or not.

[somber cairn]

again, speak for yourself, because it's all subjective opinion. i find the outfits cute. a bit lewd, but largely cute.

[covert brook]

whether you guys accept the truth or not

[somber cairn]

sorry but your opinion isn't fact.

[ornate basin]

this is not feedback, please take it elsewhere

[covert brook]

It's not my opinion. Just google "french maid outfit" and tell me what the grand majority of images you find is.

[somber cairn]

are u saying sexy cant be cute

[fleet harness]

if you don’t like lewd skins don’t buy them
Unlike gameplay, this isn’t something the devs take feedback on anyway

[ornate basin]

says who?

[copper bolt]

they dont take feedback on new skin ideas, not existing skins

[ornate basin]

as long as you arent suggesting "give _ a new skin", it is allowed

[somber cairn]

i personally think the upcoming skins are all pretty good

[fleet harness]

Give “skill leveling system” a new skin please

[ornate basin]

please make your feedback constructive and to the point.

[copper bolt]

isn't the point that if there is a group of people that want to buy those sorts of skins, then the devs can make a skin that caters to that group? Everyone has different tastes afterall.

[ornate basin]

any future comments after this must be feedback, or it will be removed

[covert brook]

Feedback: lewd skins are fine, please don't modify them. This includes the maid skins.

[somber cairn]

feedback: the upcoming skins are all great, a nice balance between cute and lewd. would like to see continued balance going forward

[covert brook]

Keep the lewd lewd. Nobody besides CN is complaining anyway.

[somber cairn]

and keep the cute cute to appeal to all tastes

[covert brook]

Indeed. Lewd maids and cute...whatevers.

[somber cairn]

the inclusion of cute maids is also a nice touch, really love QE and albacore skins

[fluid grotto]

might as well just don't take skins feedback in any form since it's all subjective and none is correct answer

some like lewd,some like casual
just gonna bickering back and forth

[somber cairn]

[fluid grotto]

actually lemme rephrase that
skins feedback via belfast bot is fair game.
feedback discussions about skins are pointless and shouldnt be allowed here, go to general if you wanna argue about your preference.

[somber cairn]

good points

[ornate basin]

discussion isnt allowed here

if you are having a discussion, you will be receiving a warn

[fluid grotto]

The reason why we allow discussions in this channel at all is because having a healthy discussion may lead to an improvement to original feedback

?

[ornate basin]

if someone comes in here to say they think these skins are too lewd, you do not have any right to say "no they are perfect" but you have the right to say "I really enjoy these skins theyre good" that is okay, but arguing with another member and gatekeeping is not okay

let me rephrase, bickering back and forth is not allowed

[fluid grotto]

more like unnecessary comment not allowed

[ornate basin]

if you want to do that, go to #al-general or DMs

those have never been allowed, and I dont need to say that 50 times

having a critical and constructive conversation that actually gets somewhere is allowed

[hearty crane]

That's... not true? We got tame stuff with IMAS, and this very batch has 100% unsexy Bismarck and QE. There is enough none-lewd content to pull data off if it sells better or not.

[fierce ember]

i am unwilling to contunue this as its getting too subjective and i speak about general direction rather then this specific batch

[hearty crane]

And the general direction is based on income. They are a company after all... going after profits.

I seriously doubt they would go 4UR per year for example if these UR events weren't majorly profitable for them...

[plush abyss]

Good day, are suggestions for a voice actress for a ship of a specific faction welcome?

[cursive horizon]

I'm glad that Elizabeth is also getting a cute/wholesome outfit. I wish it were more than just her and Bismarck, but I like those two very much so at least I have something to look forwards to. I recall hearing Elizabeth's original artist left a long time ago, but whoever is doing her and Warspite's outfits now has been knocking them consistently out of the park.

For all my complaints/gripes about the stuff I don't like, I can't forget to compliment the things I do like. So very much thank you for two getting some love, especially Bismarck.

Oh! And I meant to say this a little while ago, but I wanted to thank the devs for quickly correcting the text saying how many strongholds are left. I had only pointed it out a couple days before it got fixed, and while that was unlikely related to me, the timing was much appreciated!

[hearty crane]

They fixed that? I pointed out issues with the "reinforcements" like 10 months ago... or you mean how its under the UI? Cause they really do not seem to care for fixing OPSI issues sadly enough.

[somber cairn]

albacore's is also pretty cute and wholesome

[high pond]

Albacore is cute and funny 😭

[lavish jackal]

she also master the secret Joestar technique

[cursive horizon]

Ah, sorry, yes. I meant underneath the UI after they added the Auto Search feature.

[scenic flower]

Why we don't have the choice of cor.levels in OPSI global autosearch for the secured zones?

[copper bolt]

just to make sure, what you want is autosearch for random secured zones of a specific corrosion level?

because u can just repeat the same C5 zone over and over again or C6 zone etc right? if u want to farm stars

[scenic flower]

only cor.5-6

only 5 is a waste, while only 6 is dangerous.

[copper bolt]

ic, so you want it to randomly alternate between the 2 then?

[fierce sonnet]

I think it would be cool if there was a “random skin” option for our secretaries. I have multiple skins purchased for my wifus and it would be nice if they could swap around between those different outfits randomly

[scenic flower]

Yes. As they did it for Explorable zones. Don't see any reasons to not repeat the same.

[velvet adder]

i wish the skins were lewder and i hope since the game is 16+ they can push out the boat a bit with the skins that are lewd

some boats do go out of their way heavily to try to seduce shikikan and i think now they can do more with outfits

[eternal bronze]

also about that

just got a word that they don't accept feedback of these kind

[fluid grotto]

welp what can you do

[eternal bronze]

i guess i will grab some drinks and watch

[runic tartan]

Ask for more UR

[fluid grotto]

with lecture hall revamp and exp adjustment, raising affinity started becoming such a pain cus you leveled so fast while your affinity just can't keep up. especially for an oathed ship.
therefore with alot of copium inhaled i'd like to suggest these following :

• affinity item/gift system , self explanatory.
• increase affinity cap of main secretary if it's an oathed ship to 190
• daily secretaries interaction for affinity, atm secondary secretaries serve no real purposes beside of being a waifus showcase, maybe 3 times a day with fixed reset time (just like pvp).

[copper bolt]

With the way affinity is gained via sorties, do you think that the oil cap in event stages does not alleviate this problem enough?

but I would definitely like your suggestions too ^^

also with the daily interaction, would it be similar to how the comf-fort works/tapping bubbles in the dorm?

[copper nest]

Bubbles in dorm could be made.. you know.. meaningful (and actually working!)

[left estuary]

If you head pat your ship girls enough time in the dorm, they should gain affinity

[fluid grotto]

if you grind your ship on sortie, sure the oil cap helps,
the problem is we have exp pack now, but it feels punishing to use cus you gain no affection from it. especially if you want to 200 aff oathed ship.

[fluid grotto]

just tap/touch your secretary during the time window to gain affinity pretty much

[fluid grotto]

if someone bored enough to submit it into trello card that'd be great
maybe when the stars aligned some manju staff would see it,copium

[velvet adder]

opsi should give affinity

although i only use the same op ships

maybe even just "logging in" would give the affinity to all your secretaries

all 5 of them

[fluid grotto]

nah just do the touch

[split gyro]

speaking of the lecture hall revamp. hmm, shouldn't manjuu rework the dorm exp? it kind of pales in comparison now if you ask me. might as well give that a boost too

and the problem with affinity isn't really one. Just get your girl to 119 or 124 with the packs, and then grind her affinity and gain exp

[velvet adder]

dorm should give more morale

it isnt enough to keep up anymore

[somber cairn]

youll hit 125 long before getting 200 affinity

[split gyro]

okay, maybe just boost them to 115 then and grind 12-4

[fluid grotto]

using exp pack pretty much going minus cus you wont get 200 affinity on 125

[somber cairn]

as a general rule id like more interactive possibilities with my waifus in general, and these all seem like good ideas for that purpose, too

[split gyro]

I kind of abandoned the dorm for the most part nowadays. I just boost my girls to around 100 so they can just auto safe 12-4

[fluid grotto]

i think you underestimated the amount battle needed to reach 200 affi

[somber cairn]

oh yeah one extra thing on affinity: make flagship spot get 1.5x affinity too. affinity gain on mvping flagships is the worst.

[somber cairn]

to go from 50 to 200 by sortie alone needs 2400 battles

[fluid grotto]

going higher map actually gives you less amount battle to reach 125

[somber cairn]

1200 if mvp

for mobfleet it is 400 runs of 12-4 lol. i think it takes less than that to get from 115 to 125

[fluid grotto]

to give an idea,i just grind a ship without exp pack from 90-125 in 12-4
now she's at 123 and only 175 affi

[split gyro]

that's another great example of whack balance. tougher fights should boost the bond between you and the girls. yet you get the same in 14-4 as you would in 2-1. Just with the coins before.

[somber cairn]

yeah affinity gain should go up by like 0.015 per chapter ig

[fluid grotto]

it's just so dumb that you get punished by using exp pack

cus there is not counter measure for that lvl jump

[split gyro]

as said, the game isn't known for great balance

[fluid grotto]

hence, feedback

[split gyro]

yeah, so they can ignore it

I don't think feedback ever changed the game. not globals at least

[fluid grotto]

you can always try

[somber cairn]

yeah it's worth a shot

tho they mostly listen more to cn/jp. we got weekly oil pack bc of cn complaint lol

[split gyro]

it took a massive shitstorm over at CN for them to get things going. so I doubt this channel does anything tbh.

[fluid grotto]

immersive waifu game is top prio yep

[split gyro]

I mean hell, where are more secretary options? rotate randomly between girls you selected, or between girls with skins players own. this system is in dire need of an overhaul

[somber cairn]

we gotta rile cn up then

[split gyro]

and rotate between their skins

[somber cairn]

also only 5 secretary slots

[split gyro]

ideally, they overhaul it. you can select girls (as many as you want) or just all of them. or only girls with skins. only with l2d etc. and not just the girls, but also their skins randomized if you so desire. so much options but yet we have this super crappy system

[fluid grotto]

dont really care bout the waifu showcase, just find it weird the 4 other secretaries are there for no real reason.

[split gyro]

don't you even have to clear like chapter 12 for the last to unlock?

[somber cairn]

well to me they are there so i can interact with them but yea system could be overhauled

i have like 10 girls or more id like to regularly interact with, choosing only 5 is pain

4 actually bc to be meta efficient, 1st slot must be to get affection

[split gyro]

but again, to me it feels like globals feedback means jack to them. they don't take skin wishes, retrofit wishes, amount of UR a year that affect balance, etc. what even do they take feedback for?

[fluid grotto]

all 5 for affinity efficiency better

[velvet adder]

i mean this is yostar taking feedback too, not even manjuu or yongshi

yostar is like the middle man publisher

[somber cairn]

eh no that'd be worse, i want to have my favorites posted to interact with

[celest abyss]

Honestly would prefer if you could set your in-game avi from any of the 5 slotd and not just the 1 affinity slot

[somber cairn]

this

[fluid grotto]

or just let you choose any avatar beside your secretary

i mean your profile girl probably your fav girl that are maxed, kinda defeat the purpose of main secretary which is a passive affinity gain

[somber cairn]

yeet

[eternal bronze]

i can say that for myself

i've been active here since OP S first launched

i have around 10 suggestions scattered at collected channel, all of them have been received positively and some even hit record at the time

being critic all the times helped alot in the making of them, even so its hard to say at least one of them was even read by a dev

so yea EN is just a big meme overall

[hasty mountain]

I suggested that they should add fate simulation level to the PR lab without having to click each individual ship then the fingerprint thing, and lo and behold we have that now, I'll take credit for that one

[copper nest]

#collected-feedback message when

[sinful cloud]

You still have to click it the first time when it could just appear normally

I call it the classic "we changed it just not entirely cause reasons"

[hasty mountain]

that is irrelevant

I asked for this

and that is what we got, hence the screenshot

[eternal bronze]

that was a pretty good addition

really improved the UI

before it was outdated and clunky

[sinful cloud]

Ngl still have to see the actual use for it
Only time its useful to go just to PR without seeing the levels is unlocking a ship, to grind or complete missions included, which theres no level at that point... other time is to put prints into the ships but you see the level that way

[eternal bronze]

i sent several feedbacks but i only hope for one to be added one day that is the EX lines being compatible with skins

[sinful cloud]

That would be amazing on a constant grind to get the levels but "system getting improved and good now" with the "change" so we're stuck with this garbage

[copper bolt]

ui changes are much easier to implement than core game system changes

[sinful cloud]

You dont say, rly?
Problem is that the UI changes are the ones that come good, the core game ones are a "thanks I guess" or actually great but "fuck you, have a timegate" most of the time

[hearty crane]

Yes, seeing FS without needing to go through a secondary menu is great. Also, yes, secretaries definitely need an overhaul. I also agree who said "make all 5 give affection wont help" as that'll just make me slot in 5 girls at low affection and push out ALL the skins I paid for... not exactly improving things at all.

[fluid grotto]

can always send ticket to make game easier 👉 #bot-spam 👌

[cursive horizon]

I do wish I could improve the affection of more than one girl at a time, but really I'd mostly like to have a bunch of my cute girls who I adore and/or have oathed in rotation. There's a lot more than just five of them. I don't mind devoting one or two slots to befriending new girls, but I'd still like to see the others more often.

I'd also kind of like to ask if they could fix is so if I were to select the far left (affection slot) to exchange places with.. the new girl didn't go to the far right and boot me back to the menu. It's annoying to change secretaries and then go back in to move them around again.

[velvet adder]

yeah 5 slots isnt enough need 20+

[eternal bronze]

same can be said to fleet formation

alot of things didn't age well gotta say that

[wheat yoke]

I think 7 is reasonable if you guys want more than 5

would like if all the slots gives affinity tho

[somber cairn]

why not 14, 1 per chapter

perhaps 7 that give affection and 7 that are showcase. i think if all gave affection it would be annoying bc then it'd feel less efficient to have waifus in there instead of ships that need affection

[fluid grotto]

people succumbed to fomo and refuse more affinity slots

[slate monolith]

[tiny marsh]

Hi does anybody have tirpitz the iron blood snowstorm skin I feel robbed of my gems she doesn't say any new quotes for that skin she speaks just like the original tirpitz skin

[wheat yoke]

According to the wiki

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Tirpitz/Quotes#English_Server

[cursive horizon]

I was disappointed to learn Noshiro's oath gown also has no new dialogue.

[burnt perch]

obtaining rainbow gear from researches can be improved by introducing pity. for example, if you don't get a rainbow gear print in 10 consecutive researches having gear drops, you're guaranteed a rainbow gear print on the 11th research.
Just a thought, since the current way of obtaining rainbow gear print is uttter trash.

[tiny marsh]

@wheat yoke wooow that's very messed up I wish I would have known to search somthing to know that I literally wasted gems on just a skin with no type of dialague I would have never bought that

[wheat yoke]

yeah, I'm curious why it was removed

[hearty crane]

Well we did also have suggestions to buff affinity in combat since xp books are too good... and of course you cannot farm affection on 125 ships ;). But the crux is we want MORE waifu slots, not less.

[nova girder]

I just wish they'd get on with it and put PR2 guns on gear lab already. Including the damn Georgia gun, so you can actually use those Main Gun rainbow prints.
E: The whole PR research pool needs a revamp anyway. Rarities of research matter jack and often the longer the research is the worse it happens to be, not to mention complete RNG whether you get any decent researches or not. This is just a dead horse to be beaten over and over until they actually make changes, though.

[fluid grotto]

can always put your waifu in affinity slot btw

[hearty crane]

Says the person who phantom people wanting to play easier content

[fluid grotto]

i literally gave feedback for easier content

[inland escarp]

#juistice 4 noshi

[past ridge]

Will Baltimore's L2D dialogue for her Sp Touch ever be implemented again? I remember it being buggy, but I would've thought that would've been fixed by now

[timber grotto]

Faction medals for 36 ships please

[fluid grotto]

48 and 60 too

[cursive horizon]

#collected-feedback message I would like to bring back this suggestion. It's been two months now, and it would be really great to have some consistency with the other stages.

[fluid grotto]

update this too

[eternal bronze]

#collected-feedback message this too please

devs need to considerate doing something about it

theres no excuse for punishing someone for buying a skin and oathing a ship

EX lines are just bad design at its finest

honestly i can't believe how someone thought it would be a good idea to implement EX lines the way it is into the game when its known as a "waifu gacha game"

please hire me manjuu i can fix your game myself

[fluid grotto]

send them money so they can hire the VA everytime a new skins come up

[eternal bronze]

thats not what i meant

all i suggested was to EX lines work on skins aswell

that ins't much ins't it?

[sinful cloud]

No player beta test for features, dev playtest has proved to be... smth and stuff that stays unfixed for a good time (if it even ends up being fixed)

At this point I doubt theres much thought put into implementing things

[slate anvil]

Would appreciate it if we could do regular Q&A‘s or Dev Letters where player submitted questions get answered/concerns addressed and you communicate future plans for the game.

[velvet adder]

I think we already got that during anniversary

Where we answer a questionnaire and wish request

Still not sure tho its been months afterall

[foggy silo]

would be nice if they make gear preset able to equip the gear even if the said gear is currently equipped on other ship

[velvet adder]

Hello 👋

[cloud sable]

the problem would be how it would prioritize gear though, cause if it could just grab gear willy nilly it wouldnt help much
like say you were equipping two carriers, essex and enterprise. You auto-equip essex, and she takes 2 catapults from some other random CV. but when you auto-equip enterprise, she could take them from essex as well and undo what you wanted it to do

so i dont see how this would work in practice, since usually you have a crapton of ships being used in different stuff, like for pvp, opsi, hard mode, current grinding fleet etc

[fluid grotto]

can give each gear their own id

[cloud sable]

unless the id is obvious you run into the same issues as before because you move equips around, and if you forget whose pre-set it belongs to you can still have it be "taken" off a ship while its in use

[fluid grotto]

just add number somewhere in the thumbnail

[cloud sable]

you would need 3 digits probably though just because of how many equips people have, its just adding alot of clutter and you would still have to remember what went where

[fluid grotto]

not really, each number for each type of gear

[cloud sable]

at minimum thats still 2 digits though

[fluid grotto]

sure

[cloud sable]

and we still run into the same issue because like using my earlier example, if essex is assigned catapult 07 and catapult 08, but we take them off her and add them to enterprise, and a few weeks later when we re-autoequip essex, itll take them off enterprise even if we are using her at the moment

[fluid grotto]

i can see its application but doubt they're gonna do some big depot revamp

[cloud sable]

eh imo having auto-equip take gear off equipped ships is nice in theory but theres no real way to implement it intuitively in practice

[fluid grotto]

you mean like when enty in sortie? they can just prevent the swapping if the users of called gears are in use

[cloud sable]

well no im saying like if shes in your pvp fleet/hard mode fleet/opsi fleet or being used somewhere

[fluid grotto]

just like when ships in commission

well used to

as long theyre not in campaign stage swapping is allowed by default anyway

even without the auto swap you can still misremembering what gear is used in pvp/opsi regardless

[cloud sable]

yea, but at least you know who you took it off of if you do it manually

an auto-equip feature wouldnt say like "catapult taken from enterprise, fighter taken from zuikaku, etc"

[fluid grotto]

yea swap notice goes without saying

[cloud sable]

This all just sounds like wayyy too much trouble for the devs to implement though

[fluid grotto]

something like that but with former user

[copper bolt]

would prefer if when u select an already equipped gear, it swaps the currently equipped gear and puts it on that ship if elegibile

reduces the number of clicks to regear your ships

[hearty crane]

Yeah that would be a very nice option.

[frigid yacht]

This honestly doesn't make the game very engaging. Being artificially limited by how many characters I level up feels awful.

[timber grotto]

I understand this is a mobile game and should be friendly to casuals

But

Can we at least get some cosmetics like challenge mode frames but actually hard for people who just want to tryhard and flex?

[fierce sonnet]

hi guys please add more levels to guild tech for dock space thanks

with more and more ships being added i think it is deserved we get more dock space from guild tech

[worn mirage]

That or lower the gem price to 150 for 10 more dock slots instead of 200

[velvet adder]

yeah since theyre focusing on new events than reruns dock space will fill up a lot quicker

i shouldnt have to buy dock or retire people

especially when i bought dock space like 30-40 times

1 dock space per commander level would be nice :)

rewards people for y'know playing the game

fits in with other features getting bigger with comander level too follows the theme

[hasty mountain]

here's my feedback please reset x2 gems purchase with the update I need skins

[woeful shale]

Would it be possible to make Arrays craftable from Chips? At some point, these Chips become thoroughly useless already (like Bulins). They are just there but nothing really to use them on.

[void schooner]

Would depend on the hypothetical conversion rate between the two. You need both to take a ship to 125, so just making a bunch of arrays from chips would leave you in the same position. You just have a bunch of arrays you can't use because you don't have enough chips now.

[velvet adder]

the arrays are ludicrously expensive in event shops btw they should be at least only double what cog chips cost

1000 points for 10? really?

the fact theyre so freaking rare makes people pay this price but its really unwillingly

they should cost 1000 for 100 and then have a stock of 500

having a stock of 50 is just a slap in the face

"dont worry guys we will make them available from other sources"

and then you add not even a third to awaken a ship, kinda crazy

these huge shitty timegated grinds need to stop

[somber cairn]

ooh that would be great

id be fine with 3000 for 100 if it had a stock of 500 on arrays

[sinful cloud]

What Ive been saying for months
Its all they know how to do to make it a "challenge", sick of their timegate boner

[fluid grotto]

pls remove timegate

[random path]

Hutten skills are meh for a UR

[void schooner]

What does she do?

[summer spindle]

good yes after days of testing her I'm glad you can summarize your finding

[plain coral]

i want more skins with no stockings

[trail flax]

Hope that we will receive these improvements in 2022:

1. Exchange gear parts from T1-T3
2. Exchange Cognitive Chips
3. (Hopium) We might get a chance to purchase remaining stuff from OpSi ports that we couldn't do throughout month in the remaining 72 hours before monthly reset.
4. Add a option to clear a map number of times. Regular and Archive maps are a little bit annoying for clicking.

[plain coral]

number 4 is just super lazy and pretty much hacking

[somber cairn]

lol

[ornate basin]

no comments only feedback please thanks

[left estuary]

Retrofit Nagato into UR

[copper bolt]

it already does on EN anniversary

and if it happens too frequently, wouldn't people just stop buying gems and just wait for the reset

[velvet adder]

Level 12 goblins pls

[copper bolt]

goblins?

[hearty crane]

I mean, does it matter anymore? With the oilcap getting these points is easier than ever, 100k points to clean shops doesn't even need mail now.

Also for dockspace I think the proposed +1 for META/PR you cannot scrap would do good enough.

[velvet adder]

maybe for people with 600 dock already

but the game has like 300 more ships that it did on launch with 0 changes to dock

just an oversight of the mechanic or maybe they didnt expect for the game to be a hit

the 10 or 20 from guild was just a bandaid as usual

i still think +1 from commander level is a good idea

rewards players for playing and tbh an extra 100 dock isnt all that much just nice to have

newbies would appreciate it too

[hearty crane]

Its a 1000 gem loss PER player for the devs though. That's quite the loss of income. Also in that time they upped the gem income already with new worlds and collection update, and said guild.

[copper bolt]

could just retire ships u don't plan on using too right

u keep the collection

[fierce sonnet]

whats wrong with adding more levels to guild tech dock space

we as the players still have to play the game to earn them

[copper bolt]

there's nothing wrong, just saying the option is there for you to do that if u wish to do so.

[runic tartan]

I mean guild tech is limited rn, some guilds getting close to capping all research

Adding dockspace even if just 10 is a decent addition imo

[fierce sonnet]

i do not wish to retire my ships, that is why i am suggesting adding more levels to guild tech

[void blaze]

That's what gems are for

[fierce sonnet]

those are for rings

[velvet adder]

a newbies dock would fill up in a matter of months at this point tbh

theyd literally hit 150 new ships

[void blaze]

Those are for both

[velvet adder]

and theyre too dumb to think of retiring so they get no bulins/purins

[void blaze]

Just whale more

[fierce sonnet]

damn good solution

[copper nest]

Not everyone will buy slots tho, also more slots means more ships in dock means more potential skins bought 🙂

[copper bolt]

and people who buy gems to buy skins will probably also buy dock space.

[fierce sonnet]

im forced to not spend my gems on skins and throw them at dock space instead

[copper bolt]

That's a decision you can make on a personal level. If spending the equiv of ~$2 to expand the dock by 10 is not something you want to do then that's your choice. But you spend ~$8-12 per skin for 1 ship. You're still spending money regardless right?

More dock space would be nice yes, but apart from the guild dock, no moves have been made since launch. Though I wish they did increase it to compensate for unretirable ships

[fierce sonnet]

so why are u arguing against if u still want the dock space bruh

[copper bolt]

Doubt there can be a perfect F2P game, otherwise no one would spend money at all right

im just presenting the opposite argument for you to consider

[fierce sonnet]

its at most like +40 dock space dude yostar aint gonna go out of business over 40 dock space

esp if they keep releasing ships

[nova girder]

Setting aside cosmetics, Dota 2 is literally the whole game for free and people still whale on cosmetics. Just saying. E: It's that gacha/mobile games have decided upon varying degrees of "greed" on what to monetise. Heck, Arknights doesn't have any form of "dock space".

[copper bolt]

Arknights is less of a collectors gacha then AL and has less than half the current roster of AL tho as a comparison

[nova girder]

That doesn't matter. Even at half the current roster (and considering how terrible a good chunk of AL's roster is...) you'd still be buying slots if it was decided to be a monetisation strategy. AL even pushes bulins and dupes (and trash META ships from pass : D) to bloat your dock space so you hit the cap far sooner than you would if they didn't exist. Not to mention building is pain if you're anywhere near your cap.

[copper nest]

Building and farming 🏴‍☠️

[fluid grotto]

unlimited dock space but reduce gacha rate how about that

[eternal bronze]

I would take that

Dock space is more annoying than bad gacha

[nova girder]

Reduced rates would directly eat from skin sales (though probably boost cube buying I guess)

[eternal bronze]

And would prob start a massive review bombing

Even so i believe dockspace eats off gems that could go for skins

200 gems for miserable 10 space is way too much

I only spend for skins so every 1-2 months i have to purge several ships so i can continue playing normaly

And i don't plan on buying dockspace anytime soon

also

they pretty much turned the extra 20+ slots from guild useless

due to META ships from BP

great job devs

[fluid grotto]

what worse could happen

[fierce sonnet]

anw back to the original suggestion of expanding guild tech dock slot and maybe the other ones too

actually yeah increase oil and coin cap techs too

[wheat yoke]

if not this, at least have METAs and PR not eat dock space.

[sinful cloud]

Summarize quite a good number of ppl here

[fierce sonnet]

yeah i been noticing some ppl here are just arguing for the sake of arguing and adding nothing to the discussion

[round verge]

Increase chog chip gain

[north saffron]

Please add a checkbox in the battle pause menu to turn on/off music. Sometimes I forget to or want to turn it on/off without backing out, going to settings, and switching it.

[hearty crane]

If people don't buy slots... why do you think they buy skins? What?

[nova girder]

Also, I'd really appreciate earlier maint reminder IF it is on a day that is not Thursday. Then again, EU problems so I doubt it'll matter

[copper nest]

"damn not enough slots guess I'll retire those useless elites" 🙂

[hearty crane]

Sorry for thinking about the business side of things, rather than just the player side. Of course at THAT side there's zero argumentation against adding more dockspace. But Yostar isn't a charity.
The sollution "You can scrap them" is good. We do argue for +1 for META/PR since said argument doesn't apply to them. Understood now?

[copper nest]

small indie company 😭

[hearty crane]

Considering they are one of the most f2p out there I lean more to "greedy players"...

[copper nest]

some more free slots would be fine, skins sell anyway, main source is skins I think, and merch, and anime or whatever they're doing

[hearty crane]

Considering this is a waifu collector, dockslots would be an easy #2 (or maybe #3 after gatcha for CN/JP).

[copper nest]

ok but im not saying give 814787278518970587912905612365172351 slots