game-feedback

[winter hearth]

I would say you made really interesting chapter with really interesting mechanics that are hard at the start.
But. The chapter is easy.
Night mechanics is working only on auto, because player can see enemies. Mechanic of Main explode is really hard on the start, but when you understand that you need 2 random CVs and good BB with relatively good VG the full chapter becomes easy. Nodes are just healing and trying to survive while CVs cancel BBs.
Submarines are really interesting when you see them at the first time, but after you just put random DD with hedgehog and you will have no problem with them.
Also the reason why the w14 is so easy, there's only 2-4 ships you need. All another can be randomly chosen. You need Ryuhou and/or Perseus and Odin and/or FDG. Without them w14 will be hard, with them as easy as possible. Of course not like you can use common ships, but mechanics don't force you to use ships with useful mechanics like Akashi/Vestal, Hamman/Z35/Morison, Glowworm, Köln/Cooper usw.
Therefore I would say the w14 is really interesting, because you need to learn a lot of new mechanics, but it's easy because mechanics are easy to counter and you don't need specific ships except 4 to get through w14.

And here I just show that everything I need to win 14-4 boss is 2 random CV and FDG with good VG. If I know mechanics it's easy

[sinful cloud]

Can I just ask if that run was on safe 14-4?

Or if youve used that fleet since the start

[velvet adder]

"chapter is easy"
"A"

[tired tree]

i have fdg, i have ryohou, i have hedgehog and still undoable

[velvet adder]

I believe you can research so many comps using internet

[tired tree]

@staff so nerf chapter 14 pls

[velvet adder]

game is easy if you use the 6 most op ships in the game 125 oathed

[winter hearth]

Shamely not lethal. But medium. I got it on 0.35 and ±half HP of full fleet so I guess on lethal it also would be possible

[sinful cloud]

Damn still nice

[velvet adder]

dont forget that not everyone has access to the same ships that you do, also its the players own choice to abuse those ships/mechanics in the game

[kindred vessel]

If anything make W14 harder

[winter hearth]

Make night mechanics working on manual

[velvet adder]

i mean they always work on my hedgehog it always misses

[kindred vessel]

[copper nest]

but they do, it's more likely for hits to miss 😐

[winter hearth]

If you play manually, than you need to read mechanics Better and understand how to counter them. If auto ⚰️

[copper nest]

it's not about obstructing vision in reality (that would kinda suck), it's just evasion boost for enemies

[winter hearth]

Maybe I have Acc overkill, but I didn't notice the difference

[velvet adder]

yeah sadly its just artificial difficulty which i dont enjoy, essentially RNG

oh you missed, better luck when your hedgehog fires again in 3 seconds

I dont find it fun

A lot of fights in the game are just "oh u got bad rng, just leave the battle and reset :)"

[winter hearth]

We have this

And also I'm sure you use Perseus or Ryuhou

So put on them ASW plane

I use Hedgehog, Depth Charge and ASW plane and it's enough. While I have 2 CL and 1 DD

[tired tree]

so fuck this game

there are no fun if with full 120lvl fdg, ryu and yudachi is sink in one fight in auto and manual

where i can get perseus now?!

Yostar-idiots

[winter hearth]

Use any another CV

[tired tree]

where i can get archorage now?!

[winter hearth]

To cancel BB shots they are enough

[tired tree]

where i can get JDC now?!

where i can get Agir now?!

[winter hearth]

But why do you need them?

[sinful cloud]

Who even is JDC?

[tired tree]

jeanne darc

[sinful cloud]

So in a few days

[tired tree]

they all are must have in ch14

[winter hearth]

No

[tired tree]

yes

[winter hearth]

I have only Ägir

And she can be changed to any good tank with DMG

[tired tree]

my max and best ships in my dock are not enough

[winter hearth]

If you play less then one year it's ok. The w14 is for veterans

[silver cliff]

With the current cognitive chip gain, you get about 10,000 a month from normal play. That's enough to 120 a little over 4 ships. The game averages about 6 new ships added per month, so we already know that this isn't enough to keep pace. With the new lecture hall system and oil cap system, you can level at least one instantly leveled 120 per month and can easily get 3 more to 120 per week with even minimum casual play. I personally got 6 the very first week of the oil cap system. So current cognitive chip gain is ~25% of what is needed.
In terms of cognitive arrays, I don't think anything even needs to be said. If I never again gained experience on a new ship, it would take me over 5 years at the current cognitive array gain rate to 125 uncap just the ships I have at 120 right now. Five years.

[winter hearth]

But still it's easy

[tired tree]

and they fucked totally with cognitive arrays

2 125lvl ships in a month???

are we joke to you???

[winter hearth]

I think it's ok

If you don't have 50+ ringed ships it's ok

[silver cliff]

not 2 per month
it's one SSR per 3 weeks, or one UR per 5 weeks

[velvet adder]

5 years what the fuck

[fierce ember]

telling that the content is easy while using maxed FDG and absolute best t0-t1 vanguard
on top of not the worst remaining CVs and still getting A
while also assuming BIS gear is also there
nothing wrong with it eh?

[winter hearth]

Nothing

It shouldn't be chapter can be beaten by 6 common

And FDG can be exchanged by Odin

They both are must-have there

[fierce ember]

you are clearly making excuses

[winter hearth]

Still w14 is easy, but interesting

[kindred vessel]

W14 is supposed to be hard, it reminds me of how W13 used to be

[winter hearth]

It's hard for auto

[fierce ember]

again,w13 had less level curve difference
mechanics were not RNG related as much as now and much clearer
and was not as hardlocked on ships as you could get away without absolutely best stuff

[winter hearth]

But for manual it's as long hard, as long you don't know all mechanics

[kindred vessel]

I'm still getting shit on for W14 boss fleet but that's cause I'm being stupid more than anything else

[sinful cloud]

W13 as the biggest difficulty curve cause I cant properly play it without my potato phone starting to die

[kindred vessel]

I gotta say bravo on how difficult the BB Command Ships are though, they make the CV Command Ships from W13 seem like a joke

[velvet adder]

Yes for you thats easy

[winter hearth]

I would say CV command are harder. You cannot counter them with one CV

[quartz hill]

You can counter cv command ships with a BB. And they don’t spawn as often.

[kindred vessel]

yeah you can destroy a CV Command Ship with an AP salvo, BB command ships spawn like mad

[winter hearth]

So BB chapter 14 needs CVs, CV chapter 13 needs BBs

[quartz hill]

It’s not that simple unfortunately

[winter hearth]

I got w13 with 4 BBs. I got w14 with 4 CV. Seems to be so

[quartz hill]

Typically you only see one maybe two CV command ships in 13. When I face the 14-2 boss, it spawns two BB command ships every 25 seconds or so.

[winter hearth]

But they can be simply counter

That's the problem

Mechanic is really very interesting. But still easy

[quartz hill]

I am leveling up some counters.

[hasty mountain]

the boss BB commands for me are dying with 1 BB salvo compared to 2 BB salvos for the command CVs from W13 (by salvo I mean the initial shot with the slowdown, since the following shots seem to prioritize the boss itself)... so it's fine as long as I tap them before they buff the boss

[hearty crane]

Everyone saying w13 wasn't like this at its launch clearly werent around for w13's launch.

[velvet adder]

w13 got nerfed too

[kindred vessel]

was it actually nerfed beyond clearing mode added?

[velvet adder]

yes all the levels were reduced as well as the avi stats bosses had

made it a lot easier

[hearty crane]

Pretty sure they did that for w12 when w13 came around. Dont recall it happening to 13 too.

[hasty mountain]

now if only they made the coin reward of W14 higher than W13

[fierce ember]

i am just putting the "initial release~~(or thanks for betatesting)~~" and "intended state" in to two different baskets
but the it clearly tells smth when content comes out like that

[velvet adder]

maybe i got it confused and it was world 12

[fierce ember]

unrelated to w14 piece of feedback
since i see the tendency to unlock cross-fleet support from battles count for higher rarity ships it would be nice to see older ships updated too
as an example tosa already has flagship lock which simply locks it from even triggering
shina basically deals eh damage with hers if the flagship is a BB(as far as i know it scales off that ship AVI stat rather then hers,and since BBs have none its limited to only base damage of 40)
while for say newer examples like NJ and shima have no requirement(and seem to scale based on their stats this time),perseus and cassa/indep kai as well

in opsi this is even better seen as the quantity of fights there is MUCH more then in regular sorties (and lets be honest,i doubt anyone gonna do tacticool manual order of fights just to make much use of those skills,we will just prefere newer ships that have no requirement for it)

[modest island]

Crossfleet barrages scale off the ship itselfs fp/avi/trp not the other fleets flagship

This applies to all crossfleet ships afaik

[fierce ember]

i am only aware for sure that it works for nj and shima,but i had information that shina was the other case
which i cant test for obvious reasons

but regardless that doesnt change the point

[modest island]

also fwiw marco is a new crossfleet ship who's barrage is limited to first and second only

so it doesnt overlap with something like tosa whos 3rd and 4th

I get having shinano updated tho, no excuse really for a gacha ur to have a crossfleet thats not every battle

[fierce ember]

guess that does makes sense,i forgot about marco being a thing

[hearty crane]

The only one who supplies every battle is Shimakaze, all others including NJ and Shinano have restrictions

Oh, looking at it it does look like NJ does too, huh. Shinano is 3,4,5 though (or 3,4 in OPS)

[fierce ember]

and barrage is not that outstanding to justify it so

[raw quest]

nj cross barrage activates everytime too, no restrictions, the eagle union CVs just gets AVI stats as a bonus.

[modest island]

/crossfleet

[velvet adder]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/861884288181862420/894081145124290630/Cross_Fleet.jpg

[fluid grotto]

guarantee cog drop in w14

[sinful cloud]

When are the rainbow AA and MG prints getting an use? Been 9 months

[quartz hill]

They might add more stuff with the next Opsi update

[velvet adder]

next opsi update coming 2025

all prints should have had a use on launch

[sinful cloud]

Could have put Georgia gun on the gear lab instead of the useless shop

[unique meteor]

Since the latest patch, I can't collect research lab's reward without relogging. Anyone knows why ?

[hasty mountain]

it's a bug, you can either go to research lab to collect it there, or you can open any other screen (ex. dock) then go back to main screen and it should be collectable

[hollow gull]

if you close the tab and reopen it the button will work again

[hasty mountain]

sounds easier to deal with, but also it seems that today skill training also broke

[thorny yoke]

help, i reinstalled azur lane and now the downloading speed is so slow

when i install the game yesterday, i finished that 2.7gb packet in 30 minutes. Now, it took me an hour something just for 0.5gb 🥺

[sinful cloud]

@tardy arch on the other chats too

[tardy arch]

i got him. thanks.

[raw quest]

lol

[sinful cloud]

Was trying to analyze the extra Gascogne bps from the catch up but cant until I unlock and dev 30 her

• Ok so first, ill have to wait 1 whole day to unlock the ship since switching its time gated for some darn reason and I did the whole grind before the coin income change so left that step
• Second, the system cant detect if I have enough bps without a ship being dev 30 while the research can so you already have an upgrade done but not implemented
  • Third, why do ships even need to be dev 30, I dont plan to ever invest in Georgia but have 100+ prints from random reasearchs before the change that could at least use to build the gun

[copper nest]

You will also need to level her up to 70 to dev 30 and to 100 to fs5

[sinful cloud]

I let that slip cause we got the lecture hall change so not hard to do anymore

[raw quest]

pretty sure the game knows if you have enough prints for dev30, you probably have this ***check ***so you can't analyze since it's reserving the prints

[sinful cloud]

I tried not 2 seconds ago, Gascogne doesnt even show up
In fact only Seattle and FdG do when all of PR1 is in fate besides Izumo and Odin aswell

(Also the catch up Gascogne prints are all extra since I already had enough to FS5)

[split gyro]

meanwhile I only have all or PR1 fate5'd Mainly because, before the coin change, I was simply too stingy to spend it on research as far as I understand, face research only stops when you fate5 a ship, right? not just dev 30. Which sucks, kinda. Wish there was a option to toggle. I want to bring all the chars to 30 first, then take care of fate5s.

[copper bolt]

a ship needs to be dev 30 before u can analyse the prints for pr cores

aka unlocked + prints used

[copper bolt]

it stops at the highest possible development level for a ship so 30 for FdG, FS5 for the rest of PR2 as an example.

[hearty crane]

It literally says "You can only analyze after reaching Dev30 with said ship"...

[split gyro]

why would you analyze prints before dev 30?!

[sinful cloud]

First time I even use this thing, thats how useful its been

[copper bolt]

it's a system that helps longer term players more than newer players. Ik I've used this system a fair amount with all the catchup prints

managed to analyse a lot and buy my first 457mm and a bunch of gear prints

doing research to convert to cores to buy gear is also a really bad exchange of resources so it's just a little something for those that do decide to finish PR asap

and decide to continue doing research

[hearty crane]

Also keep getting those PR2 XP packs in cruise... sadly it's just 50 cores though, and you can buy next to nothing for that...

[copper bolt]

exactly my point, exchanging stuff for cores is really bad resource investmentwise

the pr xp packs are the exception because the xp grind help is more useless

[sinful cloud]

Dont doubt it helps ppl that been here since/close to the release but when the guild shop thats been here less than a year helps more I also doubt it helps those ppl much

[copper bolt]

I don't think the PR shop is designed to be used that much anyway

it's more "Oh you have some extra prints leftover? Nice, you can have a few extra prints for your trouble."

but improving it like you said would be nice QoL

though making the system do what you wrote in your second suggestion might get confusing for some people because there are many many systems to learn in AL

so I imagine the devs want to keep everything as simple as possible

[sinful cloud]

Well they have to know both of them as is now so wouldnt it be simpler to have just one?

Also yeah the shop just feels like a throwaway thing on top of a bad system so more of "extra wont be total waste"

[copper bolt]

yeah that's pretty much what it is rn

[hearty crane]

(If only we had that for other items like QF's)

[copper bolt]

my point was being adding more complexity would be more confusing since the current one makes sense right? Check a button to save prints for FS5. But you have the option to convert cores for dev 30+ ships since not all fate sims are worth it.

I'm not sure how they would show the PR core conversion UI if you don't even have the ship in the port but want to convert prints

without making the UI really messy

[sinful cloud]

Works either way I guess

[hardy kindle]

I just wanna say, the UIs already pretty fucked. The "Not wanting to make the UI messy" train has left the station

[copper bolt]

ik it's already quite messy so personally I think trying to add even more stuff to the mess probably isn't a good idea right?

[hardy kindle]

I mean, I doubt adding a "Reserve for dev30" checkbox here would make it much worse than it already is

I don't care much for the suggestion. But the UI argument doesn't work much for a solution that just needs a checkbox

[fluid grotto]

add cog chip into protocore shop

[quiet canyon]

Since the oil cap update for higher stages made 1-1 fleets and stage 2-1 farming useless, i'm kind of stuck waiting around a lot for mood/oil. I miss being able to endlessly play the game the in background.

[charred finch]

make 10 hr commision refresh by itself every 10 hr or so, since spending oil on sortie is more valuable than doing the commision

[eternal bronze]

I already know Ai Kayano being removed is a big possibility in AL, so i will let my feedback about this. If this day comes, i understand the decision, but my opinion will still remain, i will never ever play with these characters again ( i haved a maxed lvl 125 Zeppelin and both Kaga versions, currently raising Renown atm) and no compesation can make up for it, at least not for me, i won't hate the new VA or anything, i just want to send a message as a fellow player who has been in this boat since a year ago.

[charred finch]

its not gonna happen outside of china so dont need to whine about it

[eternal bronze]

it already did my friend

[charred finch]

no

[eternal bronze]

basically TLR is that Arknights (another gacha game by the same publisher) is making an anime and they can't make a contract with Kayano anymore hence why the VA substitution

Azur Lane announced Queen Orders not a long time ago and in the first chapters theres Kaga there

wanna bet what will happen?

[charred finch]

first of all its game feedback not anime feedback, whatever they do on the anime (queens order) it will not change anything on the game itself. they will not remove her voice from the game, they just will not work with her in the future project

[eternal bronze]

i will still stand with my feedback up there

[velvet adder]

would be nice for when i click items in shops for it to actually give me details of what the hell it does, and not just give me useless flavor text

[dusty dew]

I have a problem with unbind my yostar account,
Previously I had contacted yostar customer service but they didn't respond back, what should I do?

[undone hull]

#tech-support might be a better channel for that question

[earnest minnow]

rainbow research should give a chance to drop array cog

[copper bolt]

u mean like introducing rainbow cube researches?

[earnest minnow]

[copper bolt]

sounds fair

since H cube eresearches are the only researches that drop cog chips anyway

[earnest minnow]

30 min 20 cube 10k coin research

[copper bolt]

how many arrays?

like 10?

[earnest minnow]

probaly random from 5-20 yea

[copper bolt]

[sinful cloud]

I fucking love the reference on Maillé skin, well played

[south sequoia]

Ain't that the Sardegna icon in the bottom right?

[raw quest]

[ornate basin]

no post in en so doesnt affect our future post

[nova girder]

I seriously hope there's going to be updates that streamline OpSi, especially clearing map coordinates. It's just genuinely frustrating and tedious that every few moves there's a pointless text box popping up, possibly moving the camera as well, pointless shaky effects and camera effects etc.
Worst of all of course is the moving capitol ship that moves even after the zone is cleared.

Also the amount of "stops" like the energy matrix or the supply boxes just keep increasing the reinforcement count because they always stop you

[indigo holly]

im still a firm believer that Gold DR 8 hour research has too low of a minimum blueprint yield

[fluid grotto]

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[tardy arch]

he's gone.

[fluid grotto]

he is

[finite dome]

when?

[copper bolt]

Sorry, but keep in mind that we don't take suggestions for new ships, events, retrofits, skins, as well as release order/reruns of old events.

[hardy kindle]

I'd argue that they're almost in line with the blue and purple. It's just an extra 30 minutes for an extra print. As compared to 3 blue research.
It's just that DR face low rolls way too fucking much

[hollow sand]

rainbow boxes to not drop these
thanks

[scenic flower]

With gear lab released and PR gear there's nothing good at any boxes now, to tell you the truth.

Would like to exchange them to cog arrays

[kindred vessel]

Tech box sell button

[scenic flower]

Sell for coins? Not actual anymore.

[sinful cloud]

Steam catas, roombas and barracudas are pretty nice but yeah most is just trying to get smth to upgrade on the lab

[scenic flower]

rainbow boxes should provide a chance to get rainbow gear. It would be logical at least.

[kindred vessel]

Rainbow Crane

[scenic flower]

[fluid grotto]

rainbow box drop cog chip?

[scenic flower]

cog arrays then

[hardy kindle]

fuck it, I'll take any cog chips I can get at this point

[fluid grotto]

[hearty thunder]

[eternal bronze]

i've been trying to change my acc bind to twitter because im going to delete my facebook acc, now i can't login anymore nice

[modest island]

Scroll up in #game-news a bit they said theres a bug with facebook login and to email them so you can link a twitter/yostar

You can even delete your facebook bind in the process

[eternal bronze]

already did thanks

i just hope there will be a proper compensation when it gets fixed

[nova girder]

Don't forget homing torps and bofors. The actual issue is that the drop rate for any of these is absolute garbage and without surplus room in your inventory it's tedious to open them

[kindred vessel]

just store your gear on your ships,

[nova girder]

I've done too much of that lol

[sinful cloud]

Oh yeah the torps too (I dont use the bofors so meh)

[velvet adder]

oops didnt realise this wasnt general

[cursive horizon]

I really wish we could make Steam Catapults and Washing Machines in the Gear Lab.

Sorry, High Performance Hydraulic Steering. Couldn’t recall the name immediately.

[kindred vessel]

or pretty much ANY of the aux gear

it's absurd no aux gear is craftable

[modest island]

[stuck bramble]

Did someone mention about making the Ironblood Fleettech to max out at Lv 9 like the other factions?

We pretty much have alot of IB ships now, and my IB tech is at around 2600...

[fluid grotto]

6, maybe
9 is too much considering most of them are event walled

even hms only has 8

[kindred vessel]

don't forget a lot of KMS tech points are from PR/DR ships too

like a good 500+

[modest island]

just like how we had level rescale can we get tech point rescale

[potent zealot]

Umm, is there a bug going on atm? Woke up in the morning, checkin on AL, surprised my fleet missing a shipgirl. checking her on dock. She's not there, i also don't remember doing anything other than 1 last sortie b4 i sleep. Minutes later she's back.
https://imgur.com/a/kDWErPS

[fluid grotto]

susge link

[potent zealot]

im veery confused

[kindred vessel]

very common bug, caused by desync

[potent zealot]

oh rlly?

I swear it's my 1st time experiencing it in my 2 years of playing

[potent zealot]

what u meant by desync is when a person/me playing AL on different devices right?

[kindred vessel]

No

[sinful cloud]

Connection miscommunication

[modest island]

desync as in the server didn't handle the data you were sending it properly

or your connection was wack

[potent zealot]

huh, i see

[modest island]

most likely its the former though

[signal merlin]

IMO I think that a modest reorientation of the game's structure is in order. The core pipeline of revenue for AL is money>gems>skins/promise rings. Presumably there's YouTube ad revenue as well on the channel, as well as money coming in through Chinese social media and other outlets, but from the game itself, that's the primary reason people are putting money down. By providing further incentives and boosts to get those PITA shipgirls who are hard to snag, as well as to get them to that affinity point where people have become emotionally invested in and care for their shipfus, it will further encourage people to get skins for them and, as a result, put more money into the game, which means more revenue and, subtracting from what new skins and L2D models will cost to get made, more profits - which is more money that can be reinvested in growing Azur Lane as a franchise.

[quartz hill]

Honestly imo I think skins make the most money for them, but that is just me

[void schooner]

A (presumably) player looking at things from a (presumably) Dev's point of view? Odd, to say the least.

[ornate basin]

#bug-reports next time

[potent zealot]

ouhh, i forgot bout that
sorry kawaa

[fierce sonnet]

increase cog chip income

[sinful cloud]

2am reading skills, had to re-read it a few times

Honestly ppl have already asked for more sourced of affinity and I agree on easier getting some ships (there was already that monthly well suggestion)
Specially the last for me cause there's been an I19 skin I wanted to buy at the time but been trying for months and the fucking cat doesnt drop

[signal merlin]

Marketing is what I work in, and have been able to see what appears to be the revenue pipeline for AL pretty quickly since playing.

Basically, all I'm saying is I think that making the game easier and more accessible to players, making the grind less painful, etc. will encourage more positive experiences for players(which shouldn't hurt inter-player interaction since there is less of a focus on PvP relative to the campaign/events/OS) and encourage them to let the money come from their wallet and into Akashi's store

since money>gems>skins is where the revenue's at

AL's already in the unique position of having a fanbase that actually loves it and won't turn on it despite it being a gacha game, which typically burns out US players especially over time as they hit the "wall" and feel they can't go further.

[copper bolt]

Don't forget u also have the option craft the IB quad mags in gear lab so u don't need to rely kn tech box rng anymore

[copper bolt]

+to your points if I could upvote

[copper bolt]

Don't think it is odd to consider different stakeholder viewpoints

Considering both probably leads to better feedback that is more thoughtful

[signal merlin]

That's another thing that seemed odd - you've essentially got a quadruple tier system for crafting stuff

You've got crafting lower tech boxes into better tech boxes, you've got building tech from plans, you've got upgrading tech with parts, AND you've got upgrading tech in the gear lab. IMO would honestly be better to consolidate

[nova girder]

Süre, but it eats from other possible gear options. It's just weird that it's only available in prints through event maps and nowhere else.

[copper bolt]

The mats it uses aren't really used by that many other things u want to craft to be fair

[copper bolt]

only the FP AA gun, bidders, parallel torps and the AP DD gun but they are all really cheap as well

[winter hearth]

I would suggest to make locations on the same interests and same, or increased difficulty of w14 more often. I mean, w14 was really good. That was my best 3 days in AL. But it was 3 days, for the next time I need to wait one year or even more? So, if you don't want or cannot make chapter that will be so hard and interesting that you need weeks or even months to beat it, I would suggest to add new content more often. At least every 3 month would be ok. Because AL is now to easy and you really has nothing to do, and now after 3 days enjoying there's frustration feeling, so please, add new hard content more often.

For example challenge mode can be rewoked. Make bosses there like EX bosses and restart this every month or less. Also people should get really good rewards to have interest of playing that. And do it impossible on auto, or add 200-500% resources multiplier if you played manually, so people really play that. I mean, w14 was beaten on auto. The hardest location in the game was beaten on auto. This shouldn't happen.

[fluid grotto]

i dont want to work hard in waifu collection game

[indigo holly]

its actually 30 extra minutes for the same prints compared to blue if everything minimum rolls

[hardy kindle]

yeah, my bad. Meant that, but fucked up my english
Still think it's almost in line and it'll be better if they raised 'em all by a bit

[nova girder]

AL difficulty is pretty much tied to how much of a veteran you are. If you have all the best ships maxed out and +13 gear to go with it, of course it's easy. Mechanics wise AL doesn't do much anything, really. So it's basically all about how the power creep hits the game.

[fierce ember]

i understand that ya all meta...."users" want some challenge but can you please let us breathe?
and this content is not mechanically hard,and has no manual skill requirement,but just grindfest to get the needed stuff to the required threshold,its a bit too much
i am strongly against making the grind harder

[frigid yacht]

There's a challenge in figuring out what works and what doesn't. And a very engaging one at that.

Nice edit.

[fierce sonnet]

or just make optional game modes that challenge the players and have a leaderboads so its competitive, u dont have to do it but its there if u want a challenge

speaking of which pls add a leaderboards for challenge mode endless mode

[sinful cloud]

"Challenge" mode, could at least be updated to follow the meta

[fierce sonnet]

wdym its shimakaze meta in there right now

[frigid yacht]

Tbh, a rework of the PvP system could be really fun. It's kinda meaningless currently.

[sinful cloud]

Since when? I did it with Glasgow, Sandy and an underleveled Poi (what the button adviced)
Dont know where Shima is needed

[fierce sonnet]

im talking about high score meta

you can clear it with mutsuki lmao but that aint the meta

you cannot get maximum score without shimakaze

[sinful cloud]

Ah, idc about the score

[quiet tide]

Could we get more levels added to the cruise pass for the next one? Being done with it and having a full month to go feels bad

[nova girder]

I'd rather the same amount of levels but no "filler" rewards for the last 20 levels. Seems really easy to max out so filler is kind of pointless.

Would probably boost pass sales as well 🧐

[night cipher]

26/10/2021
To HQ
Dear ma'am /sir,

We have a problem regarding about fusou META. Despite max limit break, she only fires one salvo instead of three. I look forward to your reply and keep up the good work.

From Lexington Server

Sincerely yours,
Shikikan USS NauTiluS

[ornate basin]

#bug-reports next time but it is already know #known-bugs

[night cipher]

Aye aye, thank you for the feed back HQ have a great day. Nautilus out

[sinful cloud]

Already being fixed next maint by the looks of it

[winter hearth]

If I has been Meta user... I am waifu player, and I just want to have game to play, not Game that plays itself

[winter hearth]

W14 has really cool mechanics. Shame that we have this only there

For example it can be added something like night battles, that appear after hard. This will be right night battles with blindness like by OS Abbysal boss where you don't see anything. And even in w1 there are 120+ enemies. So we will have 11-12 places with hard challenge which are choicable. Of course there should be pretty good rewards and extra rewards for playing manually

[nova girder]

Soul Forming (8k gold AND 3 cubes) could REALLY use a buff to minimum rolls. This is just an outright scam 🙈

[fluid grotto]

110 cog is good

[sinful cloud]

Dont think the first thing ppl want on researchs is cogs

[golden coral]

ya Soul Forming is still pretty trash. they essentially give the same bp yield as a normal 1h cube commission, so its like ur just paying the extra 8k gold for a low amount of cogs and retro bps. not worth

[nova girder]

I got pretty good results twice ~7-8 prints each at least. But getting this 3 I'm convinced that it's not worth putting anything into.

Good case example of why the min max rolls should be shown. It's a research painted as rare and expensive but can yield absolute terrible results

[hearty crane]

Best H is blue. Best D is blue. It's quite funny the "rarer" researches are often much worse, even with the supposed buff that went out.

Anything useful in the gear lab would be good, yes. I got 2 Wyverns, 3 Bidders (please fix their displayed damage finally thank you), 1 UR torp launcher and 1 German torpedo bomber... and then it's just Dido AA guns I suppose? Very lacklustre. Especially since they seem to think those worthless resources are worth replacing a box in the daily (only daily level 70 is better than 95)

[stone valley]

Just like how a lot of gold BB guns are dog water a lot of more “rare” things in game are worse. Another example: Prinz Eugen.

[copper bolt]

Make friend/guild META support battles doable beyond the 3 try limit. Can also just not give chips for the battle as well after the initial 3.

[eternal bronze]

and it do be hitting pretty hard since a year ago

[fierce ember]

you literally used best units in the game on your own ss and then called it too easy
okey whatever,doesnt seem like it will get anywhere

[undone swift]

Game too good.Making me hard to quit.

[winter hearth]

Every tier list says I used not the best ships, although there were some. Also I used ships like Unicorn instead of Perseus or Shirakami Fubuki. I'm not sure they are "Meta". The w14 is easy just because mechanics are easy.

[copper nest]

it's not meta if I like meta ships

I remember loooong time ago someone proposed changing meta raid to just one per day (with double reward, so it's all equal) to make it simpler, this will also lower amounts of raids on the list, etc. etc.
What do you think?

[fierce ember]

not meta

[winter hearth]

Zeppy and Ranger are pretty sure Meta

[velvet adder]

i mean that was probably safe, and you only got an A which means zeppy and ranger simply werent high enough performance to get the S proving the point you need meta ships

[winter hearth]

That was medium

While you don't have save, B is enough

[fierce ember]

you clearly are making excuses for no-lifing the chapter with metaw*g strategies and then wanting it to be harder for everyone
if you want challange so badly just limit yourself from doing what you did,i have been dealing with it while being relatively hardcore player,but do not make life harder for everyone on main story content

[winter hearth]

If I should to make challenge for myself to have challenge in the game, there is something wrong

[velvet adder]

no offence but you cant really play the game "better" so when something gets harder, there is little to do other than reset and try again until you get lucky

[winter hearth]

The game should give me a challenge

And if w14 can be beaten on auto, this is automatically not a challenge

[velvet adder]

this isnt like dark souls where you can learn mechanics, its a bullet hell game that throws things at you

[winter hearth]

In w14 I learned mechanics

[fierce ember]

its a game of numbers vs numbers,not skill vs numbers
no matter how much i play hard games mastering my skill it wont help here if you face a statistical check on damage or HP,you will die and have to grind

[winter hearth]

I learned timings

[velvet adder]

pressing 1 air strike when a BB fires isnt mechanics

[winter hearth]

Because 95% people playing it on auto

Game just do not have enough hard contents to be played on manual

[velvet adder]

stalkar is right its a numbers game, when you cant beat it, you resort to higher stats ships to just "tank" through it, because its impossible otherwise

[winter hearth]

In AL, where you have no mechanics, it is

[copper nest]

In this game there's barely any mechanical skill during battle, there are some exceptions but mostly if you do it on purpose, like people doing EX stages with lvl1 ship dodging everything like in bullet hell game.

[fierce ember]

if only it was actually possible to do full dodges outside of ex,some bosses do not allow it,you will get hit want it or not no matter your skill cap
otherwise i would actually call that hard gameplay and shut up about it,but its not "hard" in this sense,its "hard" in sense of understanding what you actually need to equip and what is good and what is not,since game does absolutely nothing to distinguish it outside of very basic level - rarities,but even then not clear for what should be obvious
and making the game harder in this sense is fine when you stack difficult mechanics,but not in sense of extending grind further bcs of numbers not letting you go further
no matter how much skill i have,or how much i understand the game,if i dont have something like sandy with sexy bofors and bare lvl 115 i wont be able to do ANYTHING to the boss bcs backline will die

[winter hearth]

There's a skill to make perfectly timed shoots of BBs, to launch torpedoes, to clear shells of enemies BBs. But. This mechanics are so simple and can be learned in 3 days or just skip because auto exists. I think this is wrong. AL has potential to be a game with pretty hard and interesting mechanics, but this is sinking because people who do not want even to try to play manually are totally against everything that cannot be beaten by auto. Shamely they are majority

[copper nest]

Maybe that's wrong game for this you know?

[winter hearth]

I don't think so

[summer spindle]

Most players are casual and aren't playing for any adrenaline rush or content that walls then for hours on end jsyk

[copper nest]

Alienating, as you said, majority of playerbase is bad idea

[copper nest]

I don't think your edit will be noticed

[fierce ember]

i dont really care
point is,if you have been around opsi,you will remember how many ppl boiled around that stupid DPS check on healing talent sirens could have,it clearly forced you to play around dps,and most of players didnt like it
this is all the difficulty this game can offer

[winter hearth]

Really. What do you gain from w14? New Orlean. That's all. So this chapter is useless for people who don't want to play hard. What is the problem to do this chapter to hell where "auto on" means that you is dead on first node? This is not contents you need to do

Why everyone speaking about DPS check or stat check, while I cannot notice at least one place where you really need it? Mechanic check yes, but this is acceptable

[fluid grotto]

w14 barely has mechanic wdym
just the same kill command ships only with some subs

[fierce ember]

~~ story?~~gems?(which are life force for f2p)
people literally play for boobs and glory,as well as to have fun
locking story content behind "hard" wall is a meh idea bcs it locks the very majority of players reaching there

[fluid grotto]

it's mobile game at the end of the day

[sinful cloud]

Campaign doesnt have story since chapter 3

[winter hearth]

People who play for boobs are shutting on how hard contents is. They don't need it. So why chapters are making for them?

They can add something like extra stages that are really hard. That makes sense

[ornate basin]

so whats the feedback here this seems too spread out in a conversation, I think they can be summarized in a single statement

[winter hearth]

But drop should be also good

[fluid grotto]

bruh its just waifu collection game, go play real game if u wanna "challenge"

[ornate basin]

@fluid grotto if your only feedbacks are to try to invalidate others feedbacks please go to different place

[winter hearth]

AL is real game for me. Why should people make the game to shit just because it's gacha?

Why AL has no chance to became a good game?

[copper nest]

This is going nowhere anyway, for hard content, challenging mechanics and requirement of mechanical skill there are other games designed for this, not mobile games tho (with some exceptions).

[fierce ember]

introduce a difficulty-intence game mode that will make the game fun for end game players while not forcing medium or casuals to it due to must have(due to its value) or limited(time-wise) reward
and difficulty would be testing stats,skills and mechanics understanding all at once
is this aight?
i really am done now,trying to make that feedback not be harmful had absolutely no result and just wasted space for this channel and my time

[copper nest]

AL is a good game, but not the game you want it to be?

[celest abyss]

Alright, if this is just general chatter please go elsewhere

[fluid grotto]

👀

[ornate basin]

its okay aeon

[fluid grotto]

affinity item when

[ornate basin]

if you want to make a feedback over general game, please summarize it in a statement
we do not need users coming in and trying to pick it apart or say it is “wrong”
when a feedback is such a general blanket and not a specific suggestion, theres no need to make a conversation over it

[copper nest]

this alright, there's challenge mode with leaderboards so it's competitive, event EX maps too, make more of these and more challenging if it's ezpz

[fluid grotto]

cog chips as leaderboard weekly reward

[copper nest]

fine for me, cog chips are also rewards for ex stage

cog chips, arrays too

it's not like casual crowd will be hurt by missing some chips here and there, they're less likely to run out of them (new players maybe but they have no chance to beat it soooo whatever)

[ornate basin]

the comments

please, not every feedback in here needs a comment

[eternal bronze]

i agree with this

AL has potential to become a good bullet hell game

[copper nest]

adding to someone else's feedback not ok? (the addition of arrays) 😐 💀

[fluid grotto]

@ornate basin my tech box sell button never reach #collected-feedback

dont think theres duplicate suggestion either

[ornate basin]

ok I’ll check it but I think the feedbacks already been made into a card before

[fluid grotto]

i search in trello and found none

[ornate basin]

this one is not necessary, you can agree, but you dont need to keep adding on to an already valid feedback, this adds nothing to the suggestion, please keep this in mind in the future

[winter hearth]

Ok.

AL needs hard contents. Not like w14. More harder. It should be content for really veterans who have strong ships but don't have place where to use them, even they should be fucked there and train some specific player skill. It should be something where you cannot just slap on "auto" and wait. The content should be for weeks, or even for months hard and playable only on manually.
So yes, just add a hell.
But also there should be a good rewards, so people will be motivated to play this contents and to try different ships with different mechanics, different playstiles etc.
And I'm pretty sure, the battle mechanic of AL allowes this.

[hearty crane]

Remember you need to run maps over and over and over and over and over. Manually once or twice can be fun (not to me) but 50 times a day? Heeelll no. (I'll just wait till w14 can be auto'd. Manual is a royal pain. Nope.)

[sinful cloud]

Seeing this for the past days and its just like when w13 came out
Ppl trying to brute force it cause the "best ships = easy time", Ive seen both worlds being done with things you wouldnt recommend which tbh made it easier in some cases

Tho both are right in how to make a challenging thing, not in campaign directly but take challenge mode or smth and make it useful for those that put the time and want a harder nut to crack

[eternal bronze]

yeah

they should rework Challenge mode

[ornate basin]

@fluid grotto I check for you, there are 2 cards which mention the selling of tech box

[eternal bronze]

make it actually challengeful and give actual proper rewards

[velvet adder]

they should make auto battle stronger

[fluid grotto]

@ornate basin can you link the card so i can upvote?

cus i dont find any, at least just from the search bar

[eternal bronze]

i have said this b4 but i will say this again

[ornate basin]

https://trello.com/c/V9NgAAAI @fluid grotto

[eternal bronze]

Azur Lane ins't a game made for veterans

[fluid grotto]

@ornate basin thanksies

[winter hearth]

The most important there is to give rewards. If the end reward will be something like skin. People will play even hard content volunteerely

I mean, good rewards is the motivation to play. If people will understand that their pain has a good reward, they will play it

[eternal bronze]

Challenge mode just feels like a waste of time for me for that sole reason

if there are no rewards whats the point of playing it?

[fluid grotto]

bragging right

[copper nest]

so what kind of rewards exactly are you proposing

[sinful cloud]

If the point of a mode its just to give bragging rights then congrats, they wasted time and resources that could have been used to improve other things

[winter hearth]

That's another thing. CM is just shit, for trust. But it can be hard. We already have a lot of EX bosses. Just putting them there instead of easy bosses and getting really good rewards and restarting every 2 weeks will make CM at least playable and really interesting time spending

[velvet adder]

cubes

[fluid grotto]

its 3 mnts run, so barely consuming

[winter hearth]

Skin. Ship. Top tier equipment. 50 DR BPs

Gems

[copper nest]

Okay but you will be replying to every casual complaining about it here

Imagine missing so many things 💀
A bit too much imo

[winter hearth]

This should be something you can get only from CM and/or something really good

[sinful cloud]

Wouldnt say skin cause that would be a loss of money for the game
But the ship give me the idea of it giving the possibility to choose a ship you want like those anniv letters

[winter hearth]

They give free skins for easy Events. So why they cannot give one skin for CM, which also can be "reruned"

[fluid grotto]

idk cog chips sounds like the most reasonable reward

sure, array too before ppl commenting

[winter hearth]

Yeah, we have cognitive arrays. Giving like 1K for beating CM would be also good

[fluid grotto]

1k bit too much

[winter hearth]

If it's full of EX bosses you need to kill in one row it's reasonable reward

[sinful cloud]

Honestly cant clearly say what the rewards should be cause if they do it, the mode gets revamped to be longer or stay the same

Just your everyday item considering how it is now

[winter hearth]

There's another problem of AL. We don't really have something expensive. Yes, some ships and 5 peases of equipment, and cognitive arrays. There's nothing expensive that could motivate players

[fluid grotto]

sell array in gems shop

[winter hearth]

P2w

[fluid grotto]

someone submit that alr?

its single player game

[sinful cloud]

PRs are already pretty expensive taking in the awful system

[winter hearth]

P2w still p2w

[eternal bronze]

if that happended people would bomb review AL

literally

[fluid grotto]

hardly p2w, pay to progress

[copper nest]

There are cog chips for gems, and plenty of other things like prints, parts, even gear 😐 (not always, some packs are present only at special events)

[eternal bronze]

sounds like p2w

[sinful cloud]

Gaijin/Wargaming be like

[fluid grotto]

they need to make money too

[full wyvern]

im sure arrays wil be sold in gem shop anyways just not anytime soon, look at cog chips. especially now that leveling is faster and so their consuption went up but their income didnt. so the p2w argument is already out the window

[fluid grotto]

exactly

[sinful cloud]

My problem with arrays is the same as cat finishers... why? There was already an item that did the same could have just balanced that one instead

[fluid grotto]

what

[velvet adder]

there were cat finishers before?

[eternal bronze]

cog ships are easy to get and you can stack a bunch of them arrays are not

[sinful cloud]

Cogs were already here, could have adjusted the previous costs instead of making arrays cause yes

[fluid grotto]

that what it called content walling

[sinful cloud]

No but normal finishers were that most already have more than they can use, specially now that finisher commission are worth smth

[fluid grotto]

if theyre using the same cog chip,people who hoard gonna get huge advantage

[sinful cloud]

Thats what I call wasting resources and time

[fluid grotto]

not gona explain hows that a bad design but ok

[sinful cloud]

So having a massive time gating boner is better? We totally didnt have enough things gated for no reason

[fluid grotto]

cog chip is easy to get but also easy to spend especially after recent patch @eternal bronze

its new lvl cap, of course it needs to be gated

[sinful cloud]

Did they gated it when 120 came?

[eternal bronze]

i didn't felt too much

[fluid grotto]

mind you 125 just the tip

[eternal bronze]

literally have 12k cogs and i have 53+ lvl 120+ ships

arrays in the other hand...

[fluid grotto]

yeah 53 not that many and 12k cogs just enough to maxed like 7 or 8 ssr

you'll gated by cog soon enough

[eternal bronze]

yeah cuz i spent all my exp packs already

[fluid grotto]

just feed more exp pack

[sinful cloud]

Ah great so will be gated by cogs and arrays... PR unlocking 2.0

[fluid grotto]

im sitting at 2 digit cog and 2k exp pack atm cus cant really use the pack without awakening ship

[eternal bronze]

i think the only time i ever runned out of cogs was when i was starting to lvl up my 115 ships back then

and i lvl ships in a daily basis mind you

[sinful cloud]

You know the funniest part of 125? Is that you still need cogs so wtf is really the purpose of arrays

[fluid grotto]

gating array not much of problem since not much to gain from 125, gating cog chips you're walled to tech point and tech stat

[eternal bronze]

theres alot to gain from 125

[fluid grotto]

no

[eternal bronze]

damage reduction is a thing

[fluid grotto]

just minor stat and lvl advantage

i steamroll w14 with 120

[winter hearth]

So. Than I will try to make one suggestion.

Improve the Challenge mode. This is really easy and has no rewards except the frame, which is not so valuable because 1 year baby can win CM.

So my suggestion how to change it sounds so: We had a lot of hard and easy EX bosses already. Also we have OS bosses. Also you can add completely new bosses with completely new mechanics. What about to replace shipfus to this bosses? I mean you need to kill 5-6 EX/OS/new bosses in a row instead of shipfu bosses like earlier, while OS bosses will be stronger than normally to be as strong as EX bosses.
The main point is to add a good rewards. Rewards should motivate people to play this even if it's impossible. You can let the chat frame and maybe add a chat box, so people can directly show they are really good. Also this could be valuable resources like PR and DR BPs in huge amounts, Cubes, top tier equipment, that is not obtaineble everywhere else etc. If you add good rewards, people will play CM by themselves even if they know that's hard.
And also important is to restart this thing more often, like every 2 weeks. So people will be motivated to play and to test different fleets with different equipment because of time limit. Also that is a solution if season of CM will have easy way to win, in that case it will be fast restarted and people will start new.

[velvet adder]

whoa

[copper nest]

top tier equipment, that is not obtaineble everywhere else
💀
future cm will be balanced with this pro equipment in mind if it's supposed to stay hard and this will filter out even more people, no

[winter hearth]

But if you add equipment like Ryuusei, will you be motivated to play it?

[eternal bronze]

OP S cough

[winter hearth]

I would be motivated only if I would gain at least 457 or Drakegun

[copper nest]

I won't be motivated at all because I don't care about such content in ship collection mobile game 😐 if anything it will be frustrating

[sinful cloud]

Also want to say thank fuck the new skins arent bunny suits
Was getting more dumb than same swimsuit with booba, specially on the ones that were bunny girls in the base skin with a darn bunny suit paid skin

[copper nest]

But you don't need ops gear to clear ops?

[eternal bronze]

theres a bunch of new gear gated by OP S which is repetitive af to play on and i haven't seen people mass complaining about after launch

[full wyvern]

i'd actually play CM if it actually gave something usable other than a frame i forget about 2 seconds after obtaining

[fluid grotto]

be realistic on the reward suggestion

[copper nest]

Okay, imagine
New challenge mode drops, first idk, 2 months you get that pro exclusive gear that can't be obtained anywhere else, it's supposed to be top tier as per suggestion. Okay, top tier gear now makes challenge mode easy so new cm seasons must be balanced around it, aka impossible without it? You see the problem?

[winter hearth]

I'm realistic. Only something that I can get only from CM will motivate me to play that

[eternal bronze]

OP S have top tier equipment and its easy af

[copper nest]

😐

[eternal bronze]

and it was called the "end game content"

meanwhile i just clear it with blue ships

[winter hearth]

This gear can be added to core shop or another way to obtain after. That's not so huge problem. But it will be like people who play CM will have it earlier and more

[fluid grotto]

just cog, array, or dorm food will good enough to make people do cm tbh

and seems reasonable

[winter hearth]

Yeah. If 500 cognitive chips motivated me to play EX that could be a truth

[fluid grotto]

adding liek rainbow gear on leaderboard just unrealistic

[eternal bronze]

i think arrays being on CM would definitly make people play it

[copper nest]

and seems reasonable
and won't make people who can't complete it mad, there won't be people crying here or on other channels

and about this

This gear can be added to core shop or another way to obtain after
I guess it would be fine then but cog+array+gemfood suggestion seems better

[eternal bronze]

people who can't compete won't even think about it

[fluid grotto]

lot of assumption there

[winter hearth]

Maybe you are right. It was just suggestion. Devs decide what is balanced reward, I just say what would motivate me

[copper nest]

I meant.. missing some food, chips, maybe arrays are painful but eh whatever, you can get them slowly anyway, is not a big deal, I THINK

Missing new shiny top tier equipment, tons of prints, etc. is a big deal

[fluid grotto]

[winter hearth]

I have suggested an idea. Devs will decide what to do with

[copper nest]

Now send it

[eternal bronze]

yus

send it

[winter hearth]

Tomorrow. Maybe in the night I become some interesting Ideas

[fluid grotto]

it just need to be something like tiered reward
top 3 : array+cog+dorm food
top4-10 : array+cog
top 11-100 : array
leaderboard topping just extra freebies for whom putting more efforts
real reward is the array that player compete weekly for top 100

reasonable enoguh?

[winter hearth]

CM give you points, so rewards based on your points will make sense

[copper nest]

and little something for just completing

[fluid grotto]

yeah completing like

quest claim

[eternal bronze]

prints would also be good

[fluid grotto]

just like EX clear on event

[copper nest]

yeah

[sinful cloud]

Prints would be a bless but im against the current PR system so would go against it for them to not feel its enough to keep this awful thing

[fluid grotto]

just keep the reward as consumable items

[winter hearth]

I personally against rewards for leaderboard so only as point assimilation while it will count only your best score

[fluid grotto]

thought you like to compete kinda guy

[winter hearth]

Complete. Not being top 1

[fluid grotto]

topping is the point of competition

[winter hearth]

For me the battle is competition where I play against the game

[fluid grotto]

anyway that derailing so just drop it

[winter hearth]

Make point assimilation. You gain rewards for 1k, 2K, 3K etc. And CM gives you points as reward

[sinful cloud]

Not minding the leaderboard rewards, you put the time to beat the others, but since there's an infinite mode already maybe let some participation rewards that scale with how many ships you sink

[winter hearth]

Only your best score is used, so if I had 1K for first run and 2K for second I will gain rewards for 2K

[fluid grotto]

endless mode needs separated leaderboard, but since the game is leaning toward casual game now i doubt that's gonna be a thing

[fierce sonnet]

you honestly really cannot call cm challenging anymore when 13k points is easily achievable with a single ship

endless mode however is a better challenge but its kinda lame since there is no leaderboards for it

[fluid grotto]

just add more double boss, ez

[fierce sonnet]

the next step for leaderboards cm is to 2630 every single boss but that requires rng in the lineup which is all down to luck

[fluid grotto]

endless mode contradict china's gaming time restriction, doubt they gonna even touch that

current cm mode is fine, just revamp the boss, or nerf torp dmg in it just like they nerf torps in EX

[fierce sonnet]

i just want more gamemodes with leaderboards

[fluid grotto]

i mean one double boss alr gated cm high score, just add more of those

[fierce sonnet]

also while im here add cog chip to merit shop

[sinful cloud]

Wasnt their restriction for minors only? They already made the game 18+

[fluid grotto]

yet theyre still going on casual direction, go figure

[signal merlin]

It's just a matter of making the game easy to play and enjoy. Again, that encourages more emotional investment in the shipfus and increases the chance you'll pay for gems to get promise rings and skins for them

the fact some of the top AL youtubers obsess over getting skins certainly helps too

[velvet adder]

How to I use blueprints I have a lot and don’t know what to do with them

[undone hull]

Probably wanna ask #gameplay-help that

[hearty crane]

That's why EX got 500 chips. To motivate people to do the useless thing with useless currency, nothing vital. Also before we go "DIFFICULT!" why dont we look at stats for 14-4 completion. If its ridicilous low, why bother making something for an even smaller subset of players still?

[cursive horizon]

I do think that while there appear to be a decent number of vocal players talking about the game being too easy.. how many more might there be that don't speak who enjoy the easier times, or find said content to be not easy at all? I'm willing to bet that plenty still struggle with Chapter 13. Don't tell me it's so easy now cause of Ship X or Gear Y, since many players may not have access to those, especially if they're from events that haven't rerun or PR ships which take forever to develop into a useful character.

[velvet adder]

this comment was bliss to read

[copper bolt]

what Hiro said. Vocal =/= majority. As seen by some of the cards in #collected-feedback . On the topic of gear, yes farming for gear is a never ending process for everybody. Regardless if you are new or a veteran player. If they removed the gear check for W14, what is the point in farming for gear? Is it a pain that the gear check is really high? Yes but how else do they get people to keep farming for better equipment?

Not sure if there is an easy solution for it at all since I don't think W14 is intended for just anybody to be able to clear it. It's something of a goal that people can aim for right? Just like how W13 or W12 was on release.

[fierce sonnet]

It’s almost like the devs wanted to make challenging content

[copper bolt]

so on this note, I think W14 has been a nice addition to the game. Is it pretty difficult? Yes but I think that's fine. Also on clearing mode I know a lot of people have said it got a lot easier and they can safely auto it now which makes the grinding easier. Having a challenge on the first clear is nice to have in campaign. The only thing I was wondering about is if clearing mode was meant to be turned on initially because I don't think it was like that for W13 unless I'm remembering wrong when they introduced it.

[velvet adder]

yeah clearing mode was never in w13 for a LONGGG time (ambushes all the time)

made it utter hell to farm out

and there was none of that mechanic where you can get rid of ambushes by having enough evasion

ambushes really just ruin the game for me personally, im glad they moved to phase them out pretty much

as for suggestion about giving rewards such as prints and arrays in challenge mode, i am completely against it. challenge mode feels like cancer incarnation . i dont want to play it and of course, i dont like this useless mode gets rewards and i left out of it .
regard of gear exclusive to challenge mode , i never was against any ideas as much as i am against exclusive gear for CM. its like shouting please guys mass quit our game. this type of game design philosophy is better to stay in wow. i can list for all negative aspect of such change.
cm mode already got best reward it deserves
as w14. i still didnt played it and i dont plan to play it either for time being. i rather farm 13-4 instead and lv up my ships. i play w14 only when clearing mode releases and i am not againt new chapters being difficult.
and as for w13 , i had no idea people thinking its easy .... because its absolutely not easy. i mean i can see if people argue w12-4 is easy now. but 13-4? hell no . same reason i wont be farming w14. if its stupid hard i wont deal with it. i appreciate first time being hard. but grinding in that difficulty would be waste of oil for me. i skipped w13 for 1 year i can do same with w14

challenge mode is a 1 play saloon for a lot of players, get banner get out. nobody wants to play it

[copper bolt]

I think it is clear to see people play the game in different ways so there is not really a 1 size fits all solution :)

[velvet adder]

id just rather the game sticks to a casual playstyle, im not on the sigma grindset

[slate monolith]

I could do challenge mode, but it's like I have to have the right ships, with the right rigging to do the right thing at the right time so I basically just farm campaign and OpSi instead, since it's just a get special ring for character

[velvet adder]

id rather things werent locked behind the 1% meta 200 affinity fleets

everyone who says it is too easy is all too eager to blaze through the content with their maxed oathed meta fleets

challenge mode is just boring for the most part, its like 5 EX in a row except it being easier

just bullet dodging

[velvet adder]

i cant agree more. i appreciate reasonable challenge suited for AL . a mobile waifue collector. if i want to challenge myself hard core i can do a charmless run with bell on in sekiro. which i already did long time ago. thats 1000x times harder than CM. i can see why devs add cm to please specific modes to please hardcore players, but i am fully against giving cm rewards that other players wont be getting. or thinking that would be a good idea to have that difficulty in everywhere.
azur lane is absolutely not worth it. at very least for me, if i want to play hard games and be challenged , there are numerous games that make AL like a bad joke. like sekiro for example. AL is a waifue collecting game and should stay that way

[copper bolt]

the point threshold for the challenge mode frame is pretty low anyway making it accessible to almost all players too

and 500 cog chips is nothing anyone should worry about for clearing EX once either

so as u said Shahmeyr, keeping it like this would be good

imo as well. Hardcore players will find a way anyway.

like EX/fleet power leaderboards

[velvet adder]

as long as this is rewards then its fine. like cogs
adding arrays ? that would be start real flame in community. since arrays are not easy to get and limited. and everyone wants them .
i tried CM before i think i played 4 or 5 times in total. i dont like this mode and never tried to clear it . i probably could with lots of UR i have like NJ. its just AL not worth it and i am not playing AL for that type of challenge. so it could be easy like you said to get to threshold. i just think its not worth it to play cm at all( for me at very least)

[fierce sonnet]

What’s wrong with putting cog chip rewards in CM the people who actually need it can easily clear it and if you can’t then I highly doubt you will face a shortage of chips anytime soon

And while you yourself think it’s not worth doing clearly other people do not feel the same when they’re constantly fighting for leaderboards

[velvet adder]

i think i clearly said as long as cogs chips then its fine arrays are not.
oh its not just me thinking its not worth it AT ALL. take a look at how many players engaging in this mode. i can guess its not much is it? proving my point.
when cm is so disaster that people asking to put an exclusive ur gear to put up with this mode, then this is not a good mode and 99% of players dont care.
if you care then more power to you. unless there is some numbers from devs showing 90% of player base fighting tooth and nail in leader boards, then i dont see cm changing anytime soon.

[fierce sonnet]

why do you call cm a disaster simply because it requires a different set of equipment than other parts of the game lmao

you can literally bring in one fo your operation siren fleets to it and still clear it

its not like you have to be a dodge lord touhou esports legend to beat it

[velvet adder]

why you changing everything i say as what you like it to be lmao? then start to criticizing it.
i am pretty sure i am explaining myself clearly.

• i never said chips are bad in CM. i said arrays are bad because they are limited now
• i said this clearly , people suggesting devs add new exclusive overpowered gear to CM as reward in order to put up with this mode.
• i never even talked about what type of equipment needed for clearing CM
• cm is disaster in my opinion base of how many people engaging with it. if most majority of players dont want to play it then its a disaster of mode. even OS bring much higher engagement
• i clearly said that playing AL like esport player would be wrong. i merely suggesting people consider why they install AL in first place and dont try to change it to something AL is not. AL difficulty is just fine.

i understand if you like CM too much but you should pay more attention to what people actually saying. dont read things you want to read. read things that actually written

[fierce sonnet]

"when cm is so disaster that people asking to put an exclusive ur gear" who is asking for exclusive rainbow gear for this mode

and i thought people wanted more sources for arrays why is cm a bad place for it

that important resource is only given to us 9 a day bruh and just look how much it takes to awaken one ship

[velvet adder]

read some of feedbacks before my comment? perhaps ?

[fluid grotto]

that was suggested like 8 hrs ago, you can't expect people to read everything

[velvet adder]

you just proving my point

[velvet adder]

and i expect people have decency to not assume i making things up
see? its easy . and i am not like this type of arguments . spamming not gonna make you right

[fluid grotto]

or you jsut can link the context, it's easy

[velvet adder]

i dont see this conversation to be any more productive . i said what it needs to be said. so i think i will not pursue this anymore

[fluid grotto]

and idk why are you so defensive lmao, but ok

[velvet adder]

i cant follow you. what exactly i am defensive about ?

[fluid grotto]

all i'm saying you can't expect people to understand your point without giving context
since said person not engaging on said argument

[velvet adder]

i was talking about challenge mode . i repeating myself nonstop so i thought i should not continue

[fluid grotto]

and you ranting on rofl

[velvet adder]

you have strange sense of imagination and humor roflmao
this is feedback chanel lets keep it that way

[ornate basin]

[fluid grotto]

[ornate basin]

emotes is included in unnecessary comments

and I know you were around for the first warning regarding that

[sinful cloud]

Comparing CM with Opsi is not really a great idea, one is a quick to do thing while the other is pretty much a full part of the game
Comparing the weight of the 2 equally to that would lead to both being unwanted features

[fierce sonnet]

dude u seriously expect me to read a comment from 8 hours ago

u think im a discord mod or something lol

[fluid grotto]

me? dont think i've seen the warn

[fierce sonnet]

where is the point

[ornate basin]

everyone here please keep in mind most recent pin thank you

[fierce sonnet]

arrays are limited lets make them even more limited and not add anymore sources for it?

[ornate basin]

clearly cant go a few hours with repeat offenders arguing compose yourselves

[fierce sonnet]

i think i read here before someone said that with how much we get per day we can only afford one lvl125 every 3 weeks or some pitiful pace like that

[sinful cloud]

Remember it was 5 years to 125 all his current 120 ships.... thats more than the game been alive

[fierce sonnet]

the only comparison i made between the two is how you can use one of your opsi fleets and clear cm easily not anything about the playstyle

[fluid grotto]

they source gonna increase eventually

[sinful cloud]

Was not meant for you, was for the "even Opsi brings much higher engagement"

[fierce sonnet]

yeah maybe cause opsi is mandatory to do pretty unfair to compare the two

[sinful cloud]

Also CM gives you a frame while Opsi gives tons of stuff, thats like saying "why dont ppl love [insert background character here] but Mickey has more viewers"

[fierce sonnet]

opsi gives u access to gear lab items and the main source of gold plates you cannot compare their engagements like that

[velvet adder]

making arrays more limited means removing some of our income. not giving new source of income is not making it more limited.
there will be new sources in future. my point was adding a special reward to cm in order to force players to engage is not good idea. whatever its arrays or its new equipment. if people want more arrays there are plenty places to add them . in other modes such as weeklies or season pass or log in rewards

[fierce sonnet]

our income is next to nonexistent lol what is there to take away

we can only go up from what we currently have

[fluid grotto]

cm is not different than other place to begin with
the argument sounds biased just because you don't like doing cm at this point.

[velvet adder]

and since os gives all items you said , then it means that engagement with os must be pretty high. there is rewards and other stuff. yet even before new patch ,engagement was really really low.
now peole spend even less time in os. problem of CM is not rewards. and this is why people going to be upset if this added in future. because people dont want to play it. number of engagement shows it

[fierce sonnet]

also "adding a special reward to cm in order to force players to engage is not good idea" what do you think the entirety of opsi is lol if it werent for the gold plates and cat nodes i can guarantee you i would not be playing that mode

[fluid grotto]

problem of CM is not reward
pretty sure it is
most people above said they'll do cm if it's actually yield rewards, not just some useless frame

[velvet adder]

just like i said i am repeating myself continuously, twisting what i said or mockery are not going to change what i suggested. well i only come here since we had gold update and thought voices are being heard. i rather use my energy in game rather than arguing semantics
and i am not raging and ranting i just tired of meaningless arguments

[sinful cloud]

Idk, dont see ppl complaining about the book daily with the only source for rainbow books being from there

[fierce sonnet]

thats because we have three other tiers of books that we can use

i cant use my regular cog chips to awaken a ship to 125

[fluid grotto]

i'm only replying cus you're debating my suggestion from hours back.
just gonna say that so mods don't think i'm just throwing unnecessary comments.

[fierce sonnet]

also idk why u think you are getting mocked all ive said was how your points are invalid lol

comparing opsi engagement to cm engagement shows jack shit

[sinful cloud]

Yeah but still would count as "special reward to force players"

[fierce sonnet]

if anything youre the one offending me "ou should pay more attention to what people actually saying. dont read things you want to read. read things that actually written"

[fierce sonnet]

tbh i just see those rainbow books as extra rewards for doing the dailies im gonna be doing anyways

[fluid grotto]

still don't get the idea why people should feel forced to do it tho

[sinful cloud]

Same but was the dumbest comparison I could come up in the moment

[fluid grotto]

it's an old content, by any mean it has low difficulty.
the only reason to put reward in there is just to revitalized the content

[fierce sonnet]

sure they make it faster to level up skills but i dont really mind waiting a few extra days

my t3 book count is suffering already so im forced to use t2s anyways

[sinful cloud]

Point being that just because a mode you dont like shouldnt have this/get improved is dumb
Then I would just say, the best gear shouldnt come from research cause I hate the system instead of wanting to improve it

[fierce sonnet]

theyre really under utilizing the gear lab system more good equips there when

[hearty crane]

We will literally get more in less than 24 hours.

How to improve CM though? Its like the age-old argument of "improve pvp" and then the only improvements people can think of is better rewards. That doesn't make pvp mechanically 'better'.

[fierce sonnet]

ah yes another 9 chips to add to the quickly dwindling pile

and my initial point was never to change the mechanics of cm just to add another source of cog chip/array income

[copper bolt]

hassat is talking about the event and arrays in the event shop

[fierce sonnet]

ah yea fair enough but still "event limited"

[hearty crane]

Still yet another source of arrays.

[fierce sonnet]

yes very good

[split gyro]

oof, well rip cores. Man I hate this dumb core limit. I lose 400 damn cores now because I reached 4k over a week ago.

active players should earn more cores. isn't that the point? reward more active players? not by severely limiting them with a laughable 4k a month

or at the very least you shouldn't just lose the cores you earn with your weekly

I usually wait to redeem them, but now the 1st of the month is a monday... means the weekly resets with it. lmao

[copper bolt]

it was much harder previously to reach 4k cores/month and personally, I'd much rather be able to reach 4k easily than barely get 75% of the way there every month. Similar to the BP, I'd rather finish it wayy in advance than never finish it all even though the final few rewards are so so

but yeah, wish there was a setting that disables the specialised core warning for going over the cap

[void schooner]

Be that as it may, I still don't want to lose the cores claimed as weekly rewards. Those should go straight to the bank, not into the monthly allotment.

[copper bolt]

Also I think they want the limit there as well otherwise you could theoretically spam buy bulins and trade them in for coin/medal etc

by grinding a lot

like if u play a fair amount, I think u can easily reach 8k cores/month or more

[sinful cloud]

Then you would need oil for that much

[copper bolt]

u have enough without buying oil with natural regen to do it. Even more so with the oil cap if u want to use 3:3

but yeah this isn't feedback anymore since we're probably going to start a discussion so let's just leave it

[split gyro]

I think adding the weekly cores straight to your stock, ignoring your 4k, wouldn't hurt at all. Only the "hardcore" players would reach 4k cap in advance and still bank in on the weekly 400. If you haven't reached the 4k cap, by all means, add the weekly cores to the cap. over the cap weekly cores should be added to the stock directly though. Losing them feels like shit.

How many cores on top of the 4k would we even get? maximum 800 more, if you reach the 4k cap within 2 weeks.

Not even 800 more. if the weekly cores would still be added to your cap.

[sinful cloud]

Could just go without the cap tbh
The coin from retiring are not that rewarding for 4k cores each and the medals... well there's 3 things really worth buying and wouldnt be game breaking

[split gyro]

cap can stay for all I care. just the weekly cores should be exempt from it. If you'd hardcore speed through to the 4k cap, you'd only get 1600 cores more a month. at max! if you'd reach 4k within a week, lol.

[hearty crane]

I mean, its not like specialised core is even useful stares at 40k of them

[scenic flower]

[kindred vessel]

Tech box sell button

[copper bolt]

@kindred vessel

[kindred vessel]

[ionic zinc]

Small nitpick here: Would it be possible to have the auto battle warning go away forever after your first instance of auto battling in the game as a whole?

[hardy kindle]

Again with this "optimized" shit

[ionic zinc]

Also, would it be possible to make the Auto-Submarine option separate from the Auto Battle option? Would be a neat little QoL change.

[copper bolt]

u mean like auto call subs when manual? Because it already is a seperate option from auto battle when u auto

[ionic zinc]

Yes. Auto call subs while playing manual.

[copper bolt]

ic, fair enough. Though it does seem to conflict with "manual" if you know what I mean xD

[ionic zinc]

I know. It's more like "semi-auto". XD

I'm more or less asking as an option. There are plenty of times where you'd want them immediately to clear out escort fleets, and then times where you'd want to save them for bosses in the flagship fleets.

[fluid grotto]

yeah auto subs while manual would be neat

[hasty mountain]

Seems like patch notes have been "optimized" again

[split gyro]

no. a crafting option for purple boxes instead. 10 for 1 golden one

and then 10 golden for one rainbow

[scenic flower]

And then 10 rainbow for UR gear

[sinful cloud]

Would still be cheaper and more reliable getting that starting with only white boxes than with the PR system

[tired shale]

Option to only use ships capped on exp for autofilling commissions last

[hearty crane]

Making the 95 box daily even worse. Really, why is that one's rewards so bad? All the other dailies are improved. Why can't they simply have 3 boxes and OPS junk? Oh yay, 10% higher t4 odds... 33% less box. Great odds

[uncut sleet]

I prefer it i don't need anymore dang boxes, not eveyone has a million gold parts

[uncut sleet]

If they made a sell/scrap option after you open tech boxes i may actually use them more tho

[velvet adder]

i can understand if people confused about my tone since its text and start getting strange ideas that i am ranting at that time. but unfortunately i am not seeing people arguing what i am saying. people arguing me myself . that means no matter what i say its never gonna be heard . and that a huge difference there. if i can cross my point. honestly pin message make so much sense now. and there is no offending in what i said since you still continue do same thing.

[velvet adder]

and my point was its not a good idea to force 99% of players play a mod that they dont like. unless they rework entire system.
although you calling me dumb i dont going to tell you are dumb if you are obsessed with cm.
but i agree with one part of your statement. i was dumb to think engaging with discord going to bring a me new result compare to past experiences.
you can have this chatroom for yourself. i was almost quitting AL and start playing counter side. gold update was final patch that convinced me pick up game and restart my engagement with discord. but its no matter. keep gatekeeping until only your own ideas goes through . at the end of the day i played this game alone i can do it again. all i have to do is quit game if there was awful changes in future. so i dont see any more reason to engage with AL discord like ever again.

[cursive horizon]

I just want subs to work like Operation Siren in the other modes. I really hate having to move them to different locations on the map constantly while trying to grind their affection the last freaking 10 points. It's less about the oil cost than it is the tedium of having to do it multiple times a map. Especially since Auto-Search & Fleet Lock are right below it and my fingers sometimes bump the wrong one by mistake. It's been years since subs were introduced, a quality of life update like this isn't unreasonable.

[dull wasp]

honestly, i really want a pennsylvania retrofit

like shes a pretty decent rare ship and i think shes retrofit-worthy

[void schooner]

Unfortunately, they don't take feedback concerning retrofits (among other things).

[dull wasp]

damn ;-;

[worn mirage]

Not to mention they never showed an updated oil total if subs joined the fleet. Screwed me over a few times when it looked like I was bleeding more oil than I should have

[cloud sable]

Have you done W12+ chapters? subs help alot there, especially on boss fights, and help contribute a ton of damage, and theyre basically required on lethal, especially when you run out of ammo on mobs
ofc they do take quite a bit of investment in terms of equips to become useful, but saying theyre useless is just false

[velvet adder]

yeah maybe we should get "affection packs"

[fluid grotto]

someone go submit a submission on affinity item

[vale tusk]

fleet-lock function for all maps would be nice including newly introduced ones like chapter 14 n onwards. like i've set up my fleet and i just want to continue the grind. don't want to confirm combat with every node, it's making the 14-4 grind even more unbearable

[hearty crane]

Subs have been so useful to push me in the campaign, do damage even now lategame and OPS its not funny. If they're useless to you, you probably use/gear them wrong.

[vale tusk]

seems like someone is playing low level maps to think subs are useless, subs takes the RNG out of fighting boss. Helps keep your boss fleet eg in 13-4 and 14-4 from losing too much HP before the boss even spawns. 4-5+ waves of high level mobs before the boss even spawn and said mobs can RNG crit a full HP ship to near death. so no they are not useless

[normal vine]

if Washington ever gets a UR retrofit, her special item should be a Ching Lee manjuu
thank you and good night

[viscid moon]

For self-challenging purposes... maybe allow us to face a stage on lethal after it's been lowered? Maybe we want to try it on lethal with a different fleet to challenge it, or want to see if we can do the full-clear on lethal

[scenic flower]

Would be nice if AL could download the update in phone's sleepping mode or when other application is active.

[fierce ember]

the point of CM is challenge in itself,not rewards
if you lock out too valuable rewards behind it,it will become must have content when its supposed to be fully optional
i hope you understand it @winter hearth
but yeah i agree that CM should get some work in the future according to how things have changed

[frigid yacht]

Not having cognitive arrays in the event shop kinda sucks :S

[iron pumice]

yeah, but since this is just an old event, its okay. maybe they will add cog arrays in the new events

[frigid yacht]

Wouldn't call it okay seeing as the array shortage kinda breaks the game.
But I get your point.

[scenic flower]

They're selling cogs, but not arrays in the shop. This sux too.

[cursive horizon]

Oh gosh, it's not harassing me about unused rental tickets!! Thank the devs so much!!

[scenic flower]

Best update ever

[tired tree]

again there is too much ships in building pool

especialy event pools

[hasty mountain]

couldn't you just select two random skins and not equip them before?

[tired tree]

Yostar, you didn't learn't anything after my 700 cubes for one suruga

[frigid yacht]

But that has nothing to do with the amount of ships in the construction pool... Suruga is an event ship with a flat 2% drop rate.

[scenic flower]

I only need the 2 new ships, but I'll waste a ton of cubes for sure

[nova girder]

Reruns are really iffy because on the other hand if you missed it first time, it's all new but on the other, gl with 3 different SRs in the drop pool lmao.
Really should add pity choice of SR for reruns

(Saying this after getting everything but the one ship I wanted within 30 pulls and I dread how much this'll hurt me in cubes)

[scenic flower]

And I can't ignore them, coz they must be lewded, then their skins bought, and lewded again!

[nova girder]

Including the 0,5% :X

had I been around for the first round this would've been the perfect event for me since I got the new ships in 5 rolls but alas, here we go again

[tired tree]

as i said

this game become impossible to f2p

[nova girder]

It's not impossible but the RNG has always been real since you can get stuck with endless one SR roll

[tired tree]

because no chance to get all ships without buying gems for cubes and coins

[nova girder]

Eh, coins are non-issue now if you're sufficiently high level

But I fear if I'll miss out on the next UR because the cube drain I'm about to face

[full wyvern]

would of liked if la galissoniere's l2d was in rental. oh well

[scenic flower]

I don't really understand why they can't rent us any of new skins.

[tired tree]

i am out of cubes and coins

so i say good-bye to richelieu now

[copper nest]

event just started, you have a lot of time to gather more resources to try 🙂

[tired tree]

bullshit

i remind you i needed to spend euros for 700 cubes and more coins

for suruga event

i get her 2 days before event ends

that costs me 250 euro

fuckin gatcha system

i hate it so much!!!

@staff do wishing well pls after this or UR event and delete some ships from event pools

[copper nest]

it's all random, it could be your next draw, or not ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[tired tree]

i don't care about rng

i want that ship and no discussion

[crimson hornet]

[nova girder]

It's good time to reflect when you realise you sink 250€ on a virtual ship in a game with a system you hate and that's well, not too prone to lasting forever.
And I know the feeling, Alabama eluded me on the first run - but I got like 6 or 7 Baltimores instead :^) and I've missed the rerun to boot, so now it's time to wait for permapool in uh, 2 years? Assuming AL is still around

[frigid yacht]

Have you considered maybe not playing a gacha game? If RNG is a problem for you, this really isn't the game for you.

[nova girder]

I was actually thinking how I'd probably drop like 20€ on an offline version of AL when it goes down at some point, especially if it was available on PC.

[split gyro]

never understood this artificial limitation either. why not just let us pick between all available skins with the vouchers we have??

[hasty mountain]

you hit a 0.08% probability, that is impressive

[eternal bronze]

my guess is that many skins comes with problems and to hide that they don't simply make them rentable

i had once the experience of buying a very salty skin in terms of price and later regreted it due to low quality

[split gyro]

also no oil cap and crap rewards is kinda crap. Probably playing event less then. clearing once then sticking to daily reward clear for it.

Main campaign is free real estate for our UR and powerful girls. events are the no enter zone

[eternal bronze]

thats why you should aways check the skin you are buying in the wiki before

if they don't give any rentals for it

that is

[sinful cloud]

[split gyro]

I feel like skin preview should be standard feature... for literally all skins. or at least L2Ds. They want money for them, so why do we have to go to youtube to preview a skin?

[scenic flower]

[hasty mountain]

is there any place that documents all skin rentals that have already happened? I feel like I've seen some of those "bad skins" being offered on rental before; if I were to guess, they put on rental skins they feel people will more likely get attached to and buy permanently afterwards

[copper nest]

Can those missions go away once you have frame/gold from duplicate frame?

[eternal bronze]

even if thats true it still does not make sense why they limit rentable skins so much

[sinful cloud]

Ive seen rental skins go both ways
For example NC had a sudden zoom in but was fixed while Veneto was good but was updated(?) to have horrible physics on her chest

[eternal bronze]

thats more of a taste thing i guess

[split gyro]

venetos skin was just lol. she was too big imo. her badonkers took like half your estate

[eternal bronze]

many liked it

others not

[sinful cloud]

Not really, the boobs just deform for no reason on some movements

Was good before, no idea why it changed

[eternal bronze]

not the first time they change things for the sake of changing

i understand

[sinful cloud]

Well at least they're in place, not like Luigi that has her belly going left on the uncensored version

[split gyro]

[sinful cloud]

Totally in place

[hasty mountain]

VV skin was updated recently and it looks less baloony now

next step, fix the half-car of st louis

[sinful cloud]

Oh really? Gotta take a look someday
Was Boise also updated? Had the same problem and the reason I didnt buy it

Wait, I honestly dont remember if its like this on all reruns but not having the other chapters locked for a day is great

[copper nest]

They're locked only for new events
I don't mind it because there's no need to do mad rush for SP on day one, but time when other stages unlock is bad for my timezone

[nova girder]

I wish they weren't tbh

It's bad for Europe yeah, since the stages unlock at foken 10pm or close to

[split gyro]

rip europeans

[fluid grotto]

why there's no cog from EX?

[fierce sonnet]

nooo u cannot add reward to someting not mandatory

[copper nest]

maybe a bug 🤔

[latent gazelle]

y'know, it's probably been asked a million times, but is there some technical limitation as to why the sprites in the minigames look blurry?

seems like antialiasing was left on when it shouldn't have been

[copper bolt]

How big is your screen?

On mobile the sprites look fine. If they make it higher res, the game file size will balloon taking up even more storage

[opal mesa]

I 100% agree with you, had 700 cubes stocked up for the rerun, I think I got about 30 SSR's, including Jean multiple times, but not a single Le Terrible. I then swapped from rolling on the emulator to rolling on my phone, and there I got her first try after spending gems. I have been playing since release and granted, I got unlucky multiple times, pretty much all with reruns, but I think this is the closest I got to uninstalling the game.

[copper bolt]

it's all luck in the end, at 400 cubes you have 98.2% of getting at least 1 specific SSR ship by that point. Graph for reference.

[velvet adder]

yeah i feel like reruns are the worse kind of events personally, just adding 2 extras to a pool of around 5 or 6 kinda sucks

maybe reruns should have safety nets compared to first time runs

at least as a kind of guarantee compared to first runs of the events

[tired tree]

500 cubes and still no RIchelieu

[opal mesa]

I think it needs a safety net for reruns, these graphs above are nice and all, but in theory you can also be pulling for an eternity and not get the ship you want

[velvet adder]

i got jeanne 2 hoods and an algerie before my le terrible that means i hit the 0.5% chance 3 times before i hit the 2% le terrible

[opal mesa]

I had about 10 Algeries, 10 Richiies, 3 Jeanne's and some other fodder before finally after 700+ cubes I got Le Terrible

[tired tree]

i received le terrible 6 times and algiere 4 times

[velvet adder]

guarantees really should be there some what to make the game feel less like some high stakes casino, especially like what some guy said earlier the skins are totally the main income for the game, all this does is make people want to quit the game (-1 customer) instead of the constant skin income for them being happy and yknow, actually getting the character the skin is for?

[opal mesa]

Thing is, if this happened once or twice I can understand, RNG and all, but this has happened to me multiple times in Reruns

[tired tree]

but yostar ignores us here

this game is rly nightmare at reruns

they should increase rate ups to 2,5% and 5% not 2% and 2,5%

[hasty mountain]

in theory I can go buy a lottery ticket right now and by this weekend I can say bye to all of you as I move to live my dream life in my own private island

[opal mesa]

They already have a pity system in place too, I don't really understand why they can't add something similar to reruns

[tired tree]

<@&491874196079771678> Pls check all what i said and send to yostar. I don't want anymore from you but this

[opal mesa]

By all means, go for it then

[orchid cedar]

[tardy arch]

wait why the entire role ping?

[ember mesa]

what

[orchid cedar]

Discord staff = mods

[vagrant coyote]

Can we have a button to immediately retire a ship the moment when it finished building?

[tardy arch]

if you're talking about pull rates, there's nothing that can really be done about that by any of us here.

[copper bolt]

really like this update making the reward icons smaller so we don't have to scroll during clearing mode etc

[tardy arch]

and if you mean it as a suggestion for the game, then sure that's fine. but pinging the whole staff role isn't going to help further that.

[copper bolt]

ur better off submitting a ticket to the bot for #collected-feedback ^^

[hasty mountain]

they should add spark system to the gacha like we see in other games like blue archive
each gacha pull = 1 point
200 points to trade in for a SSR, 100-150? for a SR, maybe a token 300 for more UR copies even though you'll get her through the current 200-pity system which is better left untouched

[copper bolt]

just to prove the point ^^ really nice QoL

[sinful cloud]

Thought thats cause im playing in split screen, really nice then

[fluid grotto]

#al-general

[hearty crane]

That's not how math works... 2% is 2%, doesn't matter if there's other SR's. Reruns have 3 2% ships, 1 0.5% ship, and since the SR pool is 7% that leaves 0.5% odds for non-banner ships.

[hearty crane]

So... 2.5%, 2.5%, 2.5% and 0.5% < 7%
Your just screwed up math.

Also kinda surprised the lack of arrays... they were supposed to be part of eventshops right? After all the PR prints also get updated season 2>4

[raw quest]

becuz the original skybound event didn't have arrays (i guess)

[hasty mountain]

I'd like some official clarification if the event shop lacking those arrays was a mstake, or if we should expect future reruns of any event released up until now to not contain them in the shop

[copper nest]

Someone send it as a bug, that's the easiest way to get any sort of communication 😐

[sinful cloud]

There was a rerun I remember that didnt have DR prints originally but had on rerun, they just didnt feel like it

[eternal bronze]

yep

they do that aswell when it comes to PR seasons

[sinful cloud]

2 awful systems being similar I guess

[hearty crane]

It probably had DR prints originally for JP/CN, just not EN since no PR2... So not exactly the same, but still would know if it's intentional.

[eternal bronze]

basically it will take 2-3 years for me to LMB all of my ships to lvl 125

problem?

[sinful cloud]

And 5 more when those are 125 and have more 120s

Goddamit manjuu, you already had cogs

[hearty crane]

You are either the unluckiest person alive ever... or, since this is the internet, you're just lying. I go with #2. I don't believe anyone would need 350 pulls and 260 pulls back to back.

[copper bolt]

very unlucky tbh, less than 5% chance of missing richelieu in 150 builds.

not impossible by any stretch of the imagination but just unlucky

I used 800 to get pola and I've recovered

0.6% chance of that happening, just unlucky. RNG was not in your favour

[ornate basin]

please do not use this channel to vent or your access to this channel will not stand, you have already made a major mistake pinging a whole role for venting @tired tree

please do not entertain things clearly out of scope in this channel, if you really must comment, suggest them to another channel, otherwise, we will handle the situation when we know of it @hearty crane @copper bolt

[sinful cloud]

Been noticing that ships will fire the torpedos diagonally up/down when near the screen border recently
If Im not remembering wrong they use to shoot straight foward regardless of position so its a nice change

[copper bolt]

was a good change, happened during the shima event when they optimised auto torp aiming

[eternal bronze]

do face researches literally needs to dissapear when you dev 30 a PR ship? REALLY?

[robust wyvern]

It would've been cool to put Jean Bart into the event shop for points. I think that would be cool if event relevant (or skin relevant) ships were obtainable from the shop, maybe especially if they are already in the permanent builds. Could you consider that in future?

It would sell more skins, imo opinion

make them 20k or even 30k points... i would grind for them.

[tired anvil]

give us a skin view thingo to see hidden limited skin i know it has Has Skin but i dont own the Ship aka Pola i have a pola skin but i dont own Pola give us it in Memento have have it all Skins or something

[velvet adder]

kinda sucks that the face research for fdg doesnt appear when its clear shes gonna get a fate sim same with drake

[split gyro]

which means Manjuu doubled down on the "Arrays are super mega rare lul". Means changes to the arrays are probably in a far, far away future, if any at all. Or they just do it for new events. But I doubt that. What's the problem? 9 Arrays a day not enough? You have your 50 a month in the core shop

[eternal bronze]

I've been playing this game since April of last year and i have 1 big complaiment that im holding off for a very long time that is about PR Research, i have ships from all season PR1:Roon Neptune Saint Louis PR2:FDG Gascogne PR3 Mainz Odin Cheshire Champagne PR4 Parseval Agir Marco Polo and i can say that current state of PR ins't healthy for the game for these simple reasons.

First off it punishes you for staying behind and it gives you no good way to catch up to newer seasons, you literally have to skip most ships if you ever want to get into the recent ones

Second: after the PR changes of this year i can say it has worsened because not only it punishes you for getting behind it also punishes you for making progress

which i discovered today after making my Parseval dev 30

you can't get any more face researches after raising a ship to dev 30 which kills off the possibility of farming for their future FS

forcing you to farm BPs through events making it a very slow and tiring process more than PR already is or to let them at dev 29 potentially downgrading them compared to their dev 30 stats

Third: skipping 5 months of grind between PR2 and PR3 just because JP and CN got PR first than us and giving us barely any compensation for it is just unbeliveable

[sinful cloud]

They come back after the ships are max but that only makes a 4th point being that its useless cause a new season is gonna be out by that point so FS for the previous too and if its an even older season, it takes space of gear researchs

[eternal bronze]

making face researches unable to get after dev 30 was the last drop of water for me

im done with PR

not only i have to thrive through setting an alarm to get my researches on time while mostly relying on RNG i still have to handle this kind of bullshit

my idea is to make a total rework of PR system as whole

im not touching it again until it gets properly fixed as whole cuz its state today is just saddening and my own personal experience has been pretty shit overall so yeah

good concept but bad design

[still jewel]

I would just like to say that the changes to retiring ships resulting in more gold and the oil cap for world 9 and above have made my game play experience extremely enjoyable. i was already enjoying the grind of 7-2, but grinding 11-1 without running out of oil is just awesome. Now I don't have to struggle to hoard the 400k gold for the URs. I can now freely buy gear skin boxes in the general shop. I can afford to level ships past level 100, do face PR research and save for the next UR simultaneously. Thank you so much for these quality of life changes! It brings me joy to support/buy gems from a company that listens to its players and makes changes to create a better in game experience for their players.

[ornate basin]

please drop the topic, thank you

[hearty crane]

Its interestung to see you hate D face removal when thats probably the one PR4 improvement I think worked out (well and PR1 for coins, but thats unrelated to research). The alteration of droprates of D itself is pretty much a miss to me.

[eternal bronze]

well the reason i hated it so far is because i can't really farm for their FS

i already have ships like Mainz and Odin to work on FS and i can't focus all of them, i can give all of my events BPs to Parseval but that will be completely draining out what it was for Mainz and Odin

[slender tree]

Hey, did anyone make a suggestion about changing this text from "maximum limit" to "monthly limit"?

I just bought to UR bulins because I didn't know what "maximum" meant

[eternal bronze]

basically i will end in the same endless loop of me getting stressed because i can't catch up to a new season even when fully committing to it

for this reason im leaving PR for good

i rather take care of my mental health

[thorn dust]

Catch up to who exactly? This is a single player game. Unless you really care about PvP, there’s no reason to worry about not having every PR ship exactly when everyone else has them

[eternal bronze]

catch up to a new season so maybe i can enjoy the new ships?

[thorn dust]

But they’re around permanently, it’s not like you’re missing them or anything.

You get to them when you get to them. That’s the point of PR

[raw quest]

play at your own pace

[eternal bronze]

im doing it at my own pace

[thorn dust]

Then what’s the issue?

[eternal bronze]

i skipped most ships from previous seasons

just to get stagnated because the funni RNG

and limitations of own Research

[honest ginkgo]

That's RNG

[eternal bronze]

the new change of removing face research is only good

when you are going to all ships

[thorn dust]

Why do you need more blueprints then you need to finish the ship anyway?

[eternal bronze]

because FS exists

i would give my own time to farm for it if the game could let me

[thorn dust]

But if the face research isn’t showing up, that means F5 isn’t out yet. So why worry about it?

You’re complaining because the game won’t let you grind for something that literally doesn’t exist yet

[eternal bronze]

because theres literally a new season coming up next year

[thorn dust]

And what’s the problem with waiting for the next year? You finish F5 research for that one ship and move to the new season.

[raw quest]

If you want to suggest new things for the game - please use !submit command in bot-spam or send a direct message with it to @agile otter

[eternal bronze]

exactly thats the problem with research good thing you noticed it

i already did sent to belfast

im just replying so far

[thorn dust]

The problem is that you can’t farm for something that doesn’t exist yet? That seems more like a feature to prevent players from wasting time

[eternal bronze]

look research is a long term farming feature and if you can't farm for upcoming content unless you literally let your ships d29 for the time being then its a waste of time yes

there should be at least a warn when you gonna raise your ship to dev30

i can't understand why it takes so much time to raise a ship when gacha ones are similar sometimes even better

[raw quest]

just wait for the next UR gacha that we'll get

[reef tinsel]

It doesnt matter if you let them sit at d29. It counts the BPs you have, not the dev level they are at.

also faces will reappear once the whole season is dev30

[eternal bronze]

so its worse than i imagined

[robust wyvern]

I would like the research process to speed up a little and not take as much coins or cubes... like double the prints that drop to make it take half as long would be nice and not affect the game much at all compared to now.

[sinful cloud]

"But that only makes it useless cause a new season is gonna be out by that point so FS for the previous too and if its an even older season, it takes space of gear researchs"

[hearty crane]

Pretty sure they did it for the many people who went "but prototype cores though?" around PR4s release.

[sinful cloud]

Seriously just put a grind system similar to meta skills with no cap and let ppl grind, you design the ships to be good on release but no one gets the ships to dev 30 on fucking release

[sinful cloud]

For the most useless store?

[hearty crane]

People really were worried about getting currency back then from dupe prints for some reason...

[sinful cloud]

Honestly the game is one of the best mobile games out there but has 3 massive issues imo

• Unecessary items (arrays, cat finishers mainly)/unecessary timegates (switching PR ships, later event stages...) and with archive keys falling on both
• Opsi being the same boring thing every month
• PR system... just who made this and thought it was good

Its enjoyable but some parts make it less fun, could nitpick some other parts but arent really that bothersome tho

[ivory river]

wish we could do separate researches for PR one for the ships and one for gears with separate focuses as well, it's a massive L that you're finished with a PR season FS included and you still want to farm some gear from them but you can't since the newest PR season takes priority

[hasty mountain]

please let us see an actual numeric amount of blueprints left to max out a PR character the same way we can see on the catch-up screen

[ancient arrow]

Welp you can calculate it yerself unless ur lazy
PR 343 max dev 165 FS5
DR 513 max dev 215 FS5

[hasty mountain]

I've got better uses of my time than manually calculating something they have already proven they know could be an UI element

[ancient arrow]

Well I guess the thing on the top doesn't also exist for a reason

[hasty mountain]

"please let us see an actual numeric amount of blueprints left to >>>>>>>>>max out<<<<<<<<<< a PR character the same way we can see on the catch-up screen "

[hearty crane]

[nova girder]

Finishing a season before new one starts is one thing, but the fact that we're seemingly getting damn DR Fate Sim that requires even more DR prints that are arbitrarily more limited makes it even worse. It's better to have them in advance, especially for a ship you like. That said, Fate Sim is a damn terrible system as well.

[thorn dust]

I enjoy the grind, I feel that using a DR ship after grinding it for a year is a great feeling. Sure it takes awhile but that’s the point of locking some of the most powerful ships in the game behind a grind wall. At least it’s not a pay wall.

[eternal bronze]

i also enjoyed raising my NJ for only 2 weeks

[sinful cloud]

most powerful ships
I hate Shitano but goddamn ill use her over grinding Haku anytime cause not only is she better but cheaper too

[split gyro]

eh, thing is, by the time a lot of people max them out, they're already powercrept to hell, or at the very least by a good chunk, making you question why you bothered with this abysmal grind in the first place. Feels like powercreep accelerated this year, with UR ships. Hell, some pr girls (cough, Izumo, cough) are mediocre right from the start. lol

The research system is definitely the weakest part of the game. it wasn't really substantially changed since its introduction years ago.

if it would at least be a tiny bit faster. like, come on, sell us an additional research slot, and maybe, maaaaybe slightly reduce the resources needed? Not talking about 50% less, maybe 20? A bit less with more slots, would be my solution.

[nova girder]

I'd wager that in a year from now the new URs and possibly SRs will make most of the current PR ships look like a joke, especially the DR you painfully grinded towards for and already exp capped along the way most likely, lol. Then you have the FS that will make you work even more for a ship later on.

[crude pasture]

Can we please get an enhancement to the Auto battle AI to avoid prolonged collisons?

[latent gazelle]

6.7 inches iirc; and i'm not saying to increase the resolution of the actual sprite files, i'm saying that the on-the-fly sprite scaling should have antialiasing turned off specifically for the minigames

it does get far more noticeable when i'm running an android emulator on my 27" monitor though, yes

[scenic flower]

Cog arrays, golden plates, Mark8 torp BPs in event shops when?

[north wave]

give the standard BBs (Colorado, West Virginia, Pennsylvania, Arizona, Maryland) stat boosts in W14 because the standard BBs were the main fighting force in surigao strait and the battle became famous for the pearl harbour BBs taking their revenge

[scenic flower]

Was there a trello card about instant text option in OPSi or elsewhere?

[hearty crane]

Not that I recall. But yes, not having to click to speed up the bad speed it fills in the text would be great.

[drifting crow]

To the improve META rewards and to give more incentives to do the daily support fights, I think that cognitive arrays should replace chips in the point rewards.

[scenic flower]

At least, they could add the arrays into whale battle pass.

[copper bolt]

that would be too p2w for AL i think, maybe adding it to regular rewards would be more fair

[scenic flower]

To both. Some more to paid version.

[real cobalt]

Still waiting to get updated upgrading items to get put in, its only been asked for for maybe 2 years now instead we got comics, jukebox, and images(can find them on google). I dont know why these are in the "game".
Like is is it so hard to make it to where we can upgrade to max item tier for retro bps, gear plates, gear boxes, and downgrade to lowest for those as well?

[velvet adder]

prevent voter fraud in dorm contests so actual players can win

same people keep winning

[scenic flower]

I don't really understand the top-3 works.

Not great at all.

[velvet adder]

at least the russian one was unique

others are just plainly boosted

[fleet salmon]

yeah, when I browsed them from the last page backwards there wasn't much change in quality from the top pages

and in general very few people voted

[stone valley]

remember the mop one

[fleet salmon]

no surprise, I mean who has time to browse 490 pages or however many there were

[scenic flower]

Yeah. I tried at first, but closed it after 5 pages.

[velvet adder]

it should really randomise them

or idk give like 10 selections of 5? and you pick ur fave from each set

u can even see it in these al rankings ingame

the top girl has like 1000x more votes than the girl in last place

nobody is gonna scroll down

gnei 2 million, foote 6000 i rest my case

[scenic flower]

They must cancel the participation reward to filter out the freeloaders, and split the contest into several parts. No more than 10 pages at once.

[velvet adder]

these top 15 have like 99% of the vote

[solemn peak]

Faction medals for 36 lv.120 please

[crude pasture]

well, I had already voted for u37 in the first round, so I'm happy for her, but I also realize having the first places displayed by default probably leads to lazy voters just voting for one on the first page

[velvet adder]

yeah voting for them quickly as soon as they come up (to make them appear at the front) is probably a valid tactic

people are more likely to vote for them if they see them

[copper nest]

there's also feeling that your vote won't matter anyway if you vote for something below top 15
I would love to vote for Chiyoda so both of them are in top 15 but realistically my votes won't do anything, so I'm pumping Chitose stock so she stays there at least

[worn mirage]

I'm doing the same for Gloucester

[split gyro]

the voting in this game has to be the dumbest implementation I have ever seen. Showing the girls current standings?! in a voting contest? really? this just snowballs for the girls on the first page / first few ranks, nothing more. Human psychology at work here as well. People likely dump their ballots into a girl with some chances to win. Definitely a big mistake to show standings during the voting. what the hell were they thinking lol.

[idle bay]

I feel like the quick Retire options should have an option to keep enough ships to retrofit, rather than only MLB. That way we can retire ships that don't have retros, and keep those we don't have a retro of yet (so retire the ones you already retro'd).

[opaque estuary]

Might be a small suggestion for gameplay, I wish the "role change" for auto before doing sortie also can be changed during the game (sortie). Like, if the game accidentally switch them over.

[copper bolt]

u mean in auto search between using fleet 1/2 for mob/boss/all?

[opaque estuary]

Yeah, well i mean.. 10 oil and all.. but still oil is oil

[copper bolt]

since usually it will not change unless u edited a ship or switched devices unless it's campaign where it always does weird stuff resetting fleets

but yeah would be nice since it does happen sometimes to me as well, annoying when it does happen infrequently

[opaque estuary]

it sucks when you also already using double plans, the mob role will stuck to the boss and had to do it manually

[copper bolt]

yep

[steady ridge]

Can we please be able to store oil in our Depot so we not cap out our oil

[copper bolt]

oil in the depot is already a thing but it's paid packs only currently @steady ridge

[steady ridge]

yea i know that but we should have the option to convert our oil to them, so we don't hit the hard cap

[undone swift]

I'll get bash for this but,
I would like to suggest offline farming.

[modest island]

isn't that just dorm and commissions

[sinful cloud]

Probably cause of space issues but still would love that

[eternal bronze]

its almost like the same thinking that got dorm contest rigged as it is

no one will ever check more than a few pages of dorms

hence why there are so many dorms with 0 likes

[stone valley]

I joined it for the free cubes honestly

[scenic flower]

[hardy kindle]

Someone already made a trello card for that #collected-feedback message
It's honestly surprising how many downvotes it got

[fleet salmon]

I think the tier buttons on this screen should be moved lower and the improvements bar divided into several ones, each listing one of the improvements so you don't have to wait for the text to scroll.

Also, AOA skill descriptions for DDs should list the corrected number of shots required or say that this number may be halved depending on the ship's bonus from MLBing.

[hearty crane]

The META ship UI already got that solved, yet for some reason ships use scrolling and PR is just static, lacking all the info. They should just make it like the META's for all

[scenic flower]

META ships must be tier EX-α according to their introduction. In fact they're T1 at best, which is hilarious. As if they were heavily nerfed after joining Azur Lane.

[copper bolt]

wdym by T1?

[scenic flower]

Tier 1, omg =)

[copper nest]

It's like that meme, when you unlock boss as playable character 🙂
Meta ships definitely feel underwhelming for what they are

[scenic flower]

I'm not even sure, that Fuso META is better, than original Fuso

[copper bolt]

if you're saying they are T1 according to a player tierlist, then that's players' opinion right?

in their introduction, it probably relates to AL lore no?

aren't those 2 separate things

[scenic flower]

Why should they be separate? AL ships were in chock of how Hiryuu tore the Siren fleet to shreds, so the Meta ships must be in a higher leage.

[fleet salmon]

Normal Fusou if you make all upgrades except BB->BBV - 425 fp, 145% main gun eff and a skill that gives her another +20% fp
Fusou META - 405 fp, 130% main gun eff, 2 barrages with abysmal damage and a skill that can sometimes boost fp, but that happens after a salvo and it doesn't let her reach normal Fusou's firepower

[scenic flower]

[fleet salmon]

yeah, and she costs more oil

[scenic flower]

And we're spending tons of time to rise them.

I'd call it Black PR

[nova girder]

can't wait for yamashiro meta that's even worse 😉

[hearty crane]

Well, just wait for THEIR retro then 😉

[scenic flower]

They should become gods after retro RETRO.