game-feedback

[scenic flower]

Then it's useless copletely.

[raw quest]

it's just a thing a UR have, you can turn it off if you don't like it and it's not supposed to be a L2D but a dynamic animation

[limber jolt]

^ it's dynamic animation, not l2d, it says right there when you turn it on/off

[copper bolt]

^

[hasty mountain]

I welcome more bunny skins as well as more swimsuits cats and racing

[hasty mountain]

are the little dots at the very end of the souryuu meta fight supposed to do incredible amounts of damage or is this another bug?

[gusty rapids]

if I had to guess, the bunny girl skins are created as a way to make lewd skins that don't show lots of skin, since that appears to make it past the fairly arbitrary CCP requirements

The devs had been doing swimsuits as the default "sexy" skins for years but there's been a recent crackdown from CCP on this

[reef basin]

Not giving Z1 half aoa makes no sense. she's so far behind z23 and z46 in damage now

[cursive horizon]

I was sick of the bunny suits from day one, which should surprise nobody, of course. I just want more wholesome, cute, and normal looking outfits. Dresses, suits, uniforms, stuff that feels culturally significant to a faction, etc. I miss when the outfits were at least varied, even if I didn't like all of them. It's kinda sad that the only outfits that've held my interest in the last several events were Z2, Arashio, and Yuugure waay back during the Idolmaster event. I swear I used to get a lot more into the outfit releases, but the only one this time to enrapture me was Eldridge's artist's amazing alternative interpretation of a bunny suit.

[uncut sleet]

Eldridge's artist always does good for their girls.

[modest island]

ive seen both of those on EN today
maybe a hotfix fixed it

actually ive seen all 4 loading screens on this thumbnail of this post #known-bugs message
today

[hasty mountain]

that's because it's been fixed already

can't remember if it was today or yesterday we got an update

ah gotta be today, it was reported yesterday

[stone valley]

I’ve gotten all of those screens since yesterday

Maybe it’s rng

[minor robin]

Quite sure they fixed it ye

[hasty mountain]

whenever the small update happened

[hearty crane]

Although the morale number on the dorm is very nice, I would like a "hide max affection" like the "hide max level" to make it even easier to sift out the non-150s to put in the second floor...

[scenic flower]

Yeah, and add the mood filter too. I'm always suffering while trying to find all the ships I want to put in dorm. It should have been the very first filter in the game, I believe.

[obsidian spear]

Get Rid off Hardmode Status Requirements it not Possable to build Low Oil Cost fleets with that i dont care about having to use certain shiptype but the Status Requirements are so outdated

[regal elm]

but that's the whole point of Hard Mode

[scenic flower]

For me, on the contrary, the ship type requirements hurts much more, than the stats.

[cursive horizon]

Nothing like requiring a Battleship on a map that wants high AVI.

[scenic flower]

Or 2 DDs at D3.

[kindred vessel]

besides it's the only reason some ships ever get used, like Cygnet

[scenic flower]

Never used her

[copper bolt]

Well you kind of said it yourself right? That's what makes it hard mode ^^

[scenic flower]

It's not about the difficulty (for me). It's about the ships I want to use to level up or get affinity or farm PR.

[noble python]

then just play the normal maps

[copper bolt]

^

[inner frost]

tbh, the only "hard" part about hard mode is the arbitrary stat requirements (and that's not hard in of itself either), I personally would love to see them scrap this and instead change up hard mode to be "difficult" in another way other than having stat checks.

[copper bolt]

then what would u propose as difficulty bumps?

[cursive horizon]

The enemy levels are higher, ergo, it's a Hard Mode. It doesn't need arbitrary requirements to get in. It's just there because that's apparently how they've always done it and people just accept it at this point. The SP stage is level 110 and they used to be only 100 or 105.

If they absolutely can't get rid of the ship requirements, at least only force one team to do it and free the other team up for whatever.

[real cobalt]

Okay so here is an excellent idea..... When we are sorting in our dock can it not show our fleets first no matter what? If im trying to sort my ships a certain way i dont care if my fleets are not first. Its more annoying and counter intuitive? Why does it matter if the fleet show up first?
Example: Like if i sort by firepower i want the first ship to be my highest fire power ship in my entire dock not my fleets then docks.
Edit: not for hard mode.

[ruby robin]

it's intuitive because you're probably actively farming with said fleet, so they're set at the top so you don't have to go looking for them again...
if you want a simple sort you can simply reduce your active fleet formations since I'm guessing this issue mostly arises for you when seeking out hardmodes

alternatively if you're doing a non-immediate sort, I think secretary selection allows an "unbiased sort" as you prefer

[nova girder]

My favourite is requiring Battlecruiser and since there are like a handful in the game it's literally "Hood slot" to me since I lack Odin and Amagi. And even if I did have either of the two, it's just dumb.

[crude pasture]

to me it's Odin slot

[real cobalt]

Can we have the upgrade items system looked at? Im sure alot of people are sitting on unusable items that if we could upgrade we could use them. Like retrofit parts, gear plates, etc. Personal have so many gear plates of t1 and t4 retroparts being able to exchange them for their next rarity would be so helpful, have a 6:1 6:2 exchange ratio for them so its not to giving and you have weight the need for certain parts. (Note: one more feedback after the slowmode cooldown)

[copper bolt]

there's only a finite use of retro prints anyway

also if u can upgrade to T4 gear plates it kinda gets rid of the part of the point of doing opsi etc

since ik some players are sitting on 1000s of purple parts

[real cobalt]

Finally hard mode i know hard mode is restricted to 3 attempts a day but i dont remember the reason behind that, could it be possible to increase the number of times to do hard mode in a day or change it to a weekly limit, give players the opion of using all their hard mode attempts for the week in one day or over the span of a week?

[copper bolt]

because core data is a thing, used to be unlimited before that

and if they get rid of the daily, then can't u say the same amount daily raids?

[real cobalt]

No it was always 3 once it was 6 but its always been 3 even before the cores

[velvet adder]

yeah what agir said about hard modes

it was 6 and it was awful

having to kill all mobs

[copper bolt]

oh i must have remembered wrong then

[formal oyster]

Iirc it was 6 attempts, and they bumped it at 3 with Core Data introduction.

[real cobalt]

Would still be better than having wasted file space for comics images jukebox, dont use those they bring no benefits to the game. Its neat but not beneficial, especially with phones with limited space.

[copper bolt]

yep i remembered wrong

[kindred vessel]

it's why Akashi's "secretary" quest requires 6 clears of a certain chapter hard mode. It used to be 1 day

[formal oyster]

Although I wouldn't like to get rid of them personally ( even though your argument is valid ) maybe it could have a more practical use. Like setting customs loading screens from it directly.

[cursive horizon]

I genuinely thought we were getting custom loading screens when that Image Gallery first appeared. I expected it to cycle through the ones. But no, it is just kind of.. there.

[real cobalt]

Exactly. That way its not just there wasting phone space* it has a use.

[modest island]

workaround to this is just see your ships from the secretary menu

then issue resolved

[cursive horizon]

Feels more like an inconvenience than a work-around.

[modest island]

true

[cloud sable]

jukebox probably doesnt even take up much space, the audio is already in the game
comics probably dont either, but transitioning to a system like the loading screen one where you can select to download them might help (but this is gonna be like, barely a few tens of MB of space. )
If you really have issues with limited space re-downloading the game (which prunes un-needed assets) and not downloading L2D/voicelines will help more

[hearty crane]

With its option to dl only the ones you want (or, like me, all)... it could work for that. Allows us with much storagespace to simply hold them all.

[viscid moon]

Is there any way to fix the dynamic skins so they don't break special touch, headpats, etc?

[noble python]

dynamic =/= l2d skins

They are made that way as a psudo l2d

[velvet adder]

Notification system for commisions, researches and classroom

[cursive horizon]

I thought we already got ❗ marks for those.

On a similar note, however, why in the hell do I need one for the shop inventory changing? I do not need to be told that there is something to check in the Academy only for it to be a pointless notification about Shiranui's stuff changing.

[velvet adder]

Mine is on too im not talking about this red exclamation marks

[copper bolt]

So what are you suggesting?

[cursive horizon]

Is your phone allowing AL to send you notifications? That's the only thing I can think of.

[velvet adder]

Im playing on Ldplayer emulator

[minor robin]

[copper bolt]

Notifications are broken on most emulators, they can't do much about it

[minor robin]

^

that's not really an AL problem

[copper bolt]

It would be nice but an emulator is an emulator, AL is coded to be a mobile app

But there is no official support for emulators

[minor robin]

notifs work fine for phone as long as it's not on power saver/app is asleep

[velvet adder]

Oh sorry i didnt know

AL is not allowed in my country i guess so is there anything i can do about that? I mean in ldplayer

[copper bolt]

Emulators are fine to play AL on

Just any issues with the emulator, AL devs can't fix

Since it is an emulator, not app problem

Idk any emulators that have working notifications like mobile unfortunately

[normal vine]

I gotta say, I'm very disappointed that Chikuma doesn't have a Seaplane slot instead of torp or AA

devs had the chance to make her unique (instead of just another CA), and didn't use it

[fluid grotto]

sell tech box button

[tired anvil]

Having Skin List that how many you own also the limited skin too in a area or something cause limited skin doesn't pop up after the event finish in the skin shop at the end of the line

[hasty mountain]

I use Nox, pretty sure notifications generally work on it, to the point I had to disable them in all my games because it makes a really annoying sound... dunno how it's working now nor do I care, but at least it used to work in the past

[copper bolt]

Nox was kinda famous a while ago for getting hacked / become malware so personally I'd avoid using it

https://emulatorclub.com/noxplayer-safe/

[kindred vessel]

Personally I’d stick with BlueStacks

[naive cobalt]

not really a place for this discussion

[cursive horizon]

Just wanted to say that I've really enjoyed the characterizations of the new ships from this event. There's no bullies, tsunderes, yanderes, or rude girls. I might not care for the alternative outfits, but I think their writing and personalities are great! As someone said on Twitter, it was nice to see the Sakura and Iron Blood girls actively working together and not simply scheming behind each others backs. Being able to see them as allies and willing to work together is something that's kinda been lacking from their events.

[sinful cloud]

we got the japanese

But seriously yeah, good event
The mechanic is interesting and not smth thats there to be annoying, D3 gear drop is dreamwaker 2.0 but ryusseis are great so cant complain, nice way to put Haku into the story... and most importantly Akagi being "screw it send Shitano" (shouldnt happen anything if she gets there before 10 days pass)

[north wave]

add auto search mode to SP

[velvet adder]

100 secretary slots then i wont run out for a while

how else do i hold all these l2d's

[crude plaza]

kashino chest not big enog

[wanton nebula]

I find it weird that Agir has an option for skins available under her card while Mainz and others do not, despite all of them not having any skins to choose from other than default. Also I think a Mainz skin would be nice...perhaps one like the new Exeter one posted 3 hours ago on Twitter. I like that style.

[void schooner]

Unfortunately, they don't take those kinds of suggestions.

[velvet adder]

yeah ur right cos if they did it would be flooded with bache oath skin suggestions here

[hasty mountain]

Agir's button is there so you can access the background objects toggle

mainz doesn't have a background on her base skin

[hearty crane]

"There is no scheming" You didn't finish the event, did you?

[void schooner]

An event where Akagi and Prinz Eugen make an appearance, and there's no scheming? Highly doubt.

[vagrant coyote]

Can someone add Nagato's voice line that isn't available on her records?

Like "Combined Fleet, crush our enemies" when the boss is up?

[minor robin]

quite sure that's a special line that requires 4 or more sakura ships

and as far as i'm aware, none of the other similar lines are viewable in record

[hearty crane]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Nagato/Quotes Additional voiceline 1. What's the feedback though? Added where?

[void schooner]

Added in their profile in-game, I would assume.

[minor robin]

yeah ^

[reef basin]

you know ive been trying to test the "narrow torp" dd buff and im not sure i can even tell a difference. if this is working as intended its pretty bad. might as well just give them 30% stats instead

[void schooner]

It's more obvious with the 610 Sakura torps. Also depends on which DD you're using according to patchnotes.

[indigo holly]

i think August Von Parseval's detection meter should be buffed

[reef basin]

unless you sit all the way back its not noticeable. how does this equate to some of the top tier DDs getting insane dps boosts from half aoa

[indigo holly]

she seems to have a significantly lower detection point compared to all other CV's

[minor robin]

the narrowing helps a lot more with mag hit rate more than anything

[reef basin]

to do what, all hit the same target? its not significant enough.

[minor robin]

to my understanding, only katsuragi has a diff detection gauge from everyone

[indigo holly]

2 seconds in battle with multiple cv's and u will know thats incorrect

[gusty rapids]

can you provide a video?

[indigo holly]

u can tell AvP's is significantly lower than the 3 cv's on the opposing side, and each of those 3 have different detection points

[gusty rapids]

PvP spawns closer to the attacker side

so this will be true for all carriers

[indigo holly]

im not talking about what is filled

im talking about the red mark indicating when they get detected

[gusty rapids]

They get detected when the gauge is full

[indigo holly]

then what is the red mark

whats its purpose

[gusty rapids]

when the gauge reduces below that mark the carrier will be un-revealed

[indigo holly]

ok, then AvP takes significantly longer than all other CV's to restealth

same argument im making just a different way of saying it

[gusty rapids]

it's not at all the same argument though?

[indigo holly]

my argument is her stealth gauge needs to be buffed

[gusty rapids]

why does that mean she needs a buff

[indigo holly]

she is a PR CV

[gusty rapids]

in almost all contexts you will never be stealthy again for any carriers

[indigo holly]

she shouldnt have that level of weakness compared to other support cv's

[gusty rapids]

except that's irrelevant since in basically all fights it will not come up

if you're re-stealthing then the fight is generally not threatening enough for any of that to matter

[amber dirge]

Her stealth gauge being more full in that situation seems to be less about any artifact regarding her stealth and more about the fact that the enemy fleet has three times the ability to reveal as yours does

[primal valve]

Convert extra Special Core to things like coins after reach its limits lol

such a waste

[void schooner]

What dev level and level is AvP? According to the game, the higher the AVI stat, the longer it takes for carriers to be detected. If her AVI stat isn't maxed, it could explain why her detection limit is lower than the other carriers.

[copper bolt]

special core was just extra when shinano got introduced so we can earn enough for 1 rainbow bulin a month, I don't really see the need to give other stuff once u reached that limit. Initially it was kind of hard to reach 4k specialised core so they buffed the core income a lot so I don't think giving extra resources away is necessary

[primal valve]

then lose hundreds of them just like that every 2 week of the month?

[copper bolt]

well it's better than only getting 2-3k cores a month

[crude pasture]

the only UR missing DYN now is URin

[hot locust]

#bot-spam hello please increase katsuragi drop rate

[scenic flower]

[slate monolith]

[fallow latch]

Devs should release truly uncensored versions of many of the KMS ships and add an option to use them instead

[copper bolt]

wdym by uncensored versions?

[fallow latch]

Rigging of Bismarck, Eugen, Mainz, FDG, etc use black Xs as censorship

[copper nest]

that's iron blood, fiction, not real life, there's no swastika or cross or whatever was there irl

[fallow latch]

[copper bolt]

this ^ Also laws in certain countries ban the historical symbol and I don't think AL will make a country only server outside of Asia

[sinful cloud]

I mean besides the RN nothing else uses the real symbols, flags and such
AL is the only game Ive seen that made it so the "swastika bad" censorship isnt there and done pretty nicely tbh

[reef basin]

i went back and fooled around with it a lot more and it feels like it was made for mag torps yeah. i guess that means the bigger issue is how much quint 610 sprays. i almost feel like its bait because mark IX is so much safer and accurate for manual. maybe they should make 610 spread more narrow by default

[copper nest]

plus there are people complaining about whirlpool from opsi looking like swastika so you can only guess how it would end if they included it on arts and stuff

[winter hearth]

610 will be better than mark IX only when 610 will have parallel pattern

Even little spread means that you need to go near to the enemy

[reef basin]

half the spread with actual aiming and it would be okay

i doubt they'd make it a cluster like mark IX

parallel wouldnt help unless it was a really tight grouping

or just go full based and make them aimed converging torps

[sinful cloud]

Let the snowflakes whine

[frank wing]

Prinz Eugen needs a retrofit/buff, that is all

[raw quest]

Sorry, but keep in mind that we don't take suggestions for new ships, events, retrofits, skins, as well as release order/reruns of old events.

[frank wing]

Understandable, depressing

[winter hearth]

Please, make EX stages more harder. Now they can be killed even on auto or with 4 good ships

[copper bolt]

a lot of the recent EX modes have been quite difficult

and they have always been doable with 4 good ships

[hollow gull]

have you tried using lv1 ships?

[ruby robin]

Please continue to make simple EX modes like this alternatively just let me grab 500 cog chips without having to clear SP first

[hollow gull]

id say take this ex and 2x the dmg and itll feel good for the tryhards while easy enough for the casuals

[fallow latch]

ex should also do something with timeout

[winter hearth]

The whole game is simple. At least EX should be really hard. I can remember EX on NJ event, or on KMS event, where I brought 3+ hours testing of fleets and equipment and pain to win this on the last moment before lose. Now I do 4-5 ships without changing any equipment and win after 3-4 tries with half HP escort.

EX last 3 events is just giving free 500 chips

But EX should not be ruined to stuff like this. It was the only challenge in the game

[cursive horizon]

For most players it still is a huge challenge. A seemingly insurmountable one.

[winter hearth]

For most players challenge mode is also hard

But this doesn't means that challenge mode is challenge

And EX is supposed to be a hard location you need to use all your game knowing and manual skills to win. Not just 5 waifus

EX should not be possible to win on auto

[hollow gull]

it makes no difference to the tryhards, and it helps the casuals

[winter hearth]

OS which supposed to be a hard location was made easy for casuals. Let at least EX for people like me who search challenge in this game

[hollow gull]

but ex isnt hard?

[winter hearth]

Yes

Last 3 EX are easy

[velvet adder]

is that riceist one of the 3 best players on en?

[hollow gull]

nah im washed

[velvet adder]

i feel for u

[hollow gull]

ex musics been ass lately so no motivation to tryhard

[copper nest]

aren't ex leaderboards and stuff there, so you can compete with others instead of just completing, iirc there are more points for using less and lower leveled ships so tryhard leaderboards

[copper bolt]

the point of EX is to tryhard the leaderboard scores I'm pretty sure as Akagi said

not just completing it, doing that gives u the cog chip reward

[silver cliff]

Errrrrrr she ISN'T the fastest ship though, she isn't even the fastest ship currently in the game - the Le Fantasque class actually had the WW2 speed record for conventional hull ships, and they are represented by Le Malin and Le Triomphant. I guess she can brag about being 3rd fastest? Anyway, Google is your friend. Also Shimakaze's special touch doesnt work.

[full wyvern]

headpats/rubs, special touch, and normal touch(?) never work with dynamic animations on from what i experience. i wish they would though like many others i see bringing it up in here. like it even has the lines still shown in the archive screen w/ dynamic animation on as if they're supposed to be working same with other dynamic animation. not asking to give animation for the lines because thats not what dynamics is for but just to re-enable those lines

[hollow gull]

does zflag have an actual description on other clients or just the same useless one?

[cursive horizon]

Still not sure why we have to enter a code to use UR Bulins for their intended purpose.

[stone valley]

same with the verification for autofill bulin/purins

[regal elm]

To stop you from accidentally scrapping URs/using them for limit break by accident

Personal experience

[hearty crane]

How about they actually add them to the game so we can find out? Mikasa has been perma over half a year now and still no Z flag.

Also EX is there to be ignored. I think they added cog chips as a "please try this mode we have", I don't see the point in making it even more of a waste of devtime than it already is with how many bother.

[winter hearth]

Maybe for someone yes. For me it's just killing this.

[kindred vessel]

I thought the point of EX mode was to catch cheaters

[hearty crane]

Turning General Prints into specific prints make me want to die. It keeps #@$ closing if I just 1pixel misclick the TINY button and then I need to start from 1. No, I don't want to turn all 350 into a single ship.

[cursive horizon]

I've been hoping for them to fix that for a long time. I don't know if there's a Trello card but surely we're not the only server having this problem?

[sinful cloud]

That but for every menu, still trying to find the purpose of the pause button

[silver depot]

Pause button in battle? That's plenty useful

[sinful cloud]

Not for seeing notifications or answering a call

Hell even took it off pause once just for laying the phone on the bed... good waste of oil that was

[copper bolt]

pretty sure u can just leave the screen face up so the pause button doesn't get pressed? and a pause button is kind of like one of the bare minimum in all games like this lol

[sinful cloud]

How do you think I left it

[blazing heart]

Yeah in my experience pause sometimes just decides to end itself for no reason.

Also what Hassat said, can we please get less windows that close when you tap anywhere even slightly next to the + or the Confirm button?

And can in guild shop please just tapping an item make the number go up? No reason why you should have to tap 10 times if you want to buy each plate once not to mention that that + is tiny once again so you have to fiddle around.

I don't see a reason for the Confirm window for the weekly missions that tells you you won't get the protocores, pls make a setting to turn that off or at least make it so that tapping next to the window doesn't register as cancel but as confirm instead.

[sinful cloud]

And while at it, make the guild missions have the last fleet automatically selected
The + button is tiny too and no reason to show the others cause you cant de-dispatch them once you sent them

[nova girder]

Does anyone actually find the exercise defeat message useful? (Am I missing an option to delete it from existence?) It's like the least useful tip in existence and only serves as an extra click. It's been annoying ever since it was made into existence.

[blazing heart]

Oh yeah guild operation desperately needs some streamlining, takes like 5 times the taps it should.

[eternal bronze]

i made a feedback to belfast about EX oath lines a few hours ago, you guys should take a look at it, if we make enough pressure we might see it in future updates.

[hearty crane]

And yeah, its questionable of use in pve, in pvp its just infuriating

[nova girder]

At best it's something you should get to view only once. But every single time a +13 gear meta squad deletes you from existence? Just pls go away

[kindred vessel]

big agree on guild ops needing to be streamlined, way too much clicking

[blazing heart]

Great that you try German names for skins for German ships and all, but can you maybe get someone who actually knows the language for those translations? Anyway Peter's skin should be called "WEISSER UHRZEIGER" in capitals or "Weißer Uhrzeiger" without.
Unless ofc the "white" isn't meant to have anything to do with the "hands" of the clock...

[naive cobalt]

Thanks for pointing out, I'll send correction to staff

[blazing heart]

Oh thx, didn't think my rambling would cause such an immediate reaction...actually the name could also be "Weiße Uhrzeiger" if it's supposed to be more than one "clock hand"

[sinful cloud]

Guess no one complained (or wasnt reported) about Murmansk's greeting then
Remembered about it cause of this and asked a friend earlier, Avrova has it in cyrillic (Здравствуйте) but Murmansk doesnt (Zdravstuvuyte) but should be "Zdrastvuite" or "Zdrastvujte" from what I was told

[velvet adder]

Can you please bother to make the german skin names grammatically correct?

[fallow latch]

Ex mode is there to be fun and more people should play it

Imo it should drop gems or at least coins

[blazing heart]

I just love when auto does this

[sour bobcat]

damn amazing game, i wish there was like more voicing from the ships thats it

[cursive horizon]

After having played Crosswave, I agree that having them actually voicing all the lines would be pretty amazing. Unfortunately, it'd also increase the game's size a lot, too.

[hasty mountain]

games such as princess connect get around that by offering the voiced cutscenes as an optional download

given how bitchy some people get about having to click one extra time in a screen, I don't suppose it would be very popular around here when every single cutscene would ask you to play "with voice", "without voice" or "skip"

[cursive horizon]

Well, ideally it would be an option in the menu. With or Without.

[merry grove]

An option to turn off all in-game "!" exclamation mark

[primal valve]

Option in OpSi not to turn off the Auto Search after getting 100 Ashes Coordinates

Annoying af.

[agile quartz]

The current UR event is a disappointment
And it honestly feels like the Devs are spitting in our faces after following the Idolmaster Collab and the amount of... Questionable things there

[void schooner]

Care to elaborate?

[cursive horizon]

I mean, loads of people have been asking for Shimakaze since Crosswave came out a couple years ago. I know the Idolmaster Collab was a big joke for a lot of folks, but this event was pretty good I thought. Unless it's cause of mostly being Destroyers & Light Cruisers? (I'm curious about them elaborating, too)

[merry grove]

Too many loli and the only non loli, Chikuma, doesnt have a skin

[hearty crane]

No?

[proven mango]

Chikuma doesn't have skin when all the loli got skin is big disappointment

[agile quartz]

It's more or less because they decided to ignore everyone else in their audience
And instead try to appeal to the lowest form of human beings
That they decided to have an entire event with almost entirely underaged looking character characters much like the Idolmaster Collab, except this time they decided to put them into outfits most commonly worn by actual prostitutes...
I like Azur Lane and I even like the fact that it's lewd
But all I've been seeing this year is them trying desperately to get more no life weeaboos to play it
And I find it rather deplorable

[slate monolith]

Well Chikuma had her looks retooled from her old setup that we had in-game until this event. Besides people like the bunnygirl outfits as of late it seems

[cursive horizon]

I for one am absolutely thrilled we weren't drowning in huge breasts for a change. I'm so sick and tired of constant cleavage. I really wish they'd just ask the artists to draw normally proportioned girls instead, but I'd rather have teens and lolis than the alternative. I think the gigantic breasts and bunny outfits are far more deplorable, but I seem to be in the minority here.

[nova girder]

I love how the tagline for the Salvaging Crew minigame is "earn great rewards" - yet 3 of those rewards are 300 coins (woop!) and several other not so great rewards. It even ends with elite cat box instead of SR cat box. 😂

I get that they might not actually throw a ton of stuff at you but this is just pittance

[slate monolith]

Well it's free stuff without really working for it, so I see no complaints about it actually

Besides it's one of there more fun mini games they came up with as of late

[nova girder]

mostly poking fun at the "great rewards" when half of the rewards amount to 900 coins as if they couldn't figure out anything else to give from it. Makes the 7 day streak pretty pointless, imo.

[cursive horizon]

I definitely agree the Salvaging minigame is one of the funnest ones we've had in a while. It's got some great sprite work, and lots of details.

[agile quartz]

Yes because the only two body types are loli and big booba Milf
It's not women with medium cup size are a thing

[noble python]

Clearly you didnt read finish the comment

[bronze elk]

...that's quite a bit of copium there considering the fact that AL hasn't been shy about marketing itself as THAT kind of game tbh (and consistently since 2018 too) Degen content sells and is also what the clear majority of people play the game for, whether or not it is deplorable really shouldn't be the question? As far as content this year goes i'm pretty sure the idolmaster collab was a step in that opposite direction, and that didn't exactly fare very well among the playerbase so... yeah you see the point here

tl;dr booba good for game health (and we've had a relative lack of those recently)

[noble python]

I dont see how we lack booba

[minor robin]

[noble python]

Maybe this event i agree but like pr4 and previous events have plenty o booba

[minor robin]

Really, this debate is very similar to any arguments about pacing

[bronze elk]

and I'm not gonna devolve this into an argument, just use the wiki for reference

[minor robin]

You can argue either way and it'll still be valid

It's a matter of preference at that point

Hence, it would be appreciated if it could just end as leaving feedback on how you feel and not devolve into an argument/debate

Because, it's gonna go absolutely nowhere

[bronze elk]

pretty much, money should speak at the end of the day anyway

More pertinently, I feel like having more official clarification on new features (e.g. guild content)/consistent messaging on bug fixes moving forward would be great to have (looking at Lv.125 implementation mainly). Doesn't even have to be jp-twitter level of detail, but more info in at least the overall patch notes would be nice.

[noble python]

Adding on to that, I feel that new content should be teased/introduced in a way similar to jp twitter with visualizations shown ingame instead of the "optimizations" in the en patch notes.

[kindred vessel]

The EN patch notes are so terrible I’ve taken to just translating the JP patch notes because they actually describe the changes instead of just “optimization”

The EN patch notes really need a relook and better and more descriptive wording added to them consistently

[fierce ember]

all they really had to do is not throw from one bottom to another,i am sick of both,specially when the outfits are THIS tier of revealing and when it comes characters that are clearly made looking underaged

at least the UR is interesting and we finally enter the point when ALL of the new ships get EX lines,which i hope continues

[nova girder]

I think someone already said it but it's so dumb that you can't change development of PR ship if you finish them, unless the 24h have passed. I just paid the ransom for one and now I'm 24h locked for switching (I decided to do it now since Europe maintenance locked tomorrow anyway, lol) while the notification system has the ! telling me I don't have anything in development. What even is the point of the arbitrary 24h lock?

[copper bolt]

but if u pay the gold and unlock the ship, u can start another research straight away though no?

[nova girder]

Nope

[copper bolt]

it's always been like that for me, as soon as I finish 1 ship I can start another

[nova girder]

Switched over to Champagne to pay 30k and it remains locked

You can if you don't do the switch ofc

[copper bolt]

oh u switch just to pay for the gold

well this problem only exists by switching between ships, usually u just stick to 1 ship until u unlock them and u never encounter the 24 hrs CD

[inner frost]

It shouldn't be a problem to begin with, the 24 "cooldown" does not have to be there at all

[nova girder]

It makes no sense anyway. At the very least finishing a ship should clear the cooldown regardless of just having a switch, because the gold especially can be something that holds you back for a while from finishing

[copper bolt]

idk, I've personally never had any issues with the 24 hr timer but that's just because I stick to 1 ship until I unlock them. Ig people play in different ways.

30-60k gold can easily be obtained in the 1 week it takes minimum to unlock a PR ship

if you aren't preparing for it then that's on your own resource management

[nova girder]

yes, but I had to save up for the current event

[copper bolt]

well 1 day isn't going to change much in the grand scheme of things either even though it can be annoying. U could have just waited until the event was over / used those coins for mainz instead

and keep grinding xp

[naive cobalt]

@copper bolt please refrain from pointless messages in this chat

[copper bolt]

no discussion allowed then?

[naive cobalt]

well there's legit discussion of feedback and there's "should've did things differently" which doesn't address feedback, just tries to handwave it for literally no reason

[copper bolt]

kk

[naive cobalt]

"there shouldn't be CD when you finish research" is perfectly valid feedback that was suggested previously

[nova girder]

Frankly idk if there's anything "defendable" about the cooldown mechanic to begin with since you have to wait the 7 days to unlock all the portions of PR development and that's pretty much it for the time gate. It's never really made any sense to me as there's really no way to cheat the system so to speak.

[copper bolt]

I wasn't really defending it, just pointing out a workaround

maybe I didn't make that clear

sry

[nova girder]

I guess the whole coin part could use the improvement of doing it in parts of 1000 or even 10k rather than a single lump sum. Likewise during event prep savings if you could use money from merchant towards this payment (like the suggested research using merchant coins) that would be pretty cool since it would help with not wasting the already relatively scarce resource.

[cursive horizon]

I definitely feel that putting very underage girls in very revealing outfits (especially since bunny girls are usually about sex appeal) feels pretty gross, but nobody really likes when I say it. That's why I have been trying to advocate for normally proportioned ladies for a long time. Like you and others have said a lot of Azur Lane is just two extremes, as though the artists don't ever consider the middle ground. That's why I liked Eldridge's space outfit so much, it allowed for "lol bunny" while covering her whole body.

[sinful cloud]

Honestly dont mind either, its all fictional at the end of the day , but yeah would appreciate more characters like Nimi/Helena and casual skins like Victorious or Dunkerque

[inner frost]

Not that I completely disagree with what you are saying, but I find the fact that you say "normally proportioned" interesting. As in there is a "normal" proportion and everything that deviates from this is "not normal".

[lost palm]

You playing wrong game bro

[blazing heart]

Yeah devs have a tendency to label anything as "great reward", remember OpSi story chapter? There "great rewards" were like what? 64 OpSi coins?

[copper nest]

I feel like opsi clear rewards should be gems instead of coins, laughable values, since it's one time only gems would be just like campaign chapter rewards

[nova girder]

The puzzle parts especially advertise themselves with great rewards for solving them. Regardless of if you get help or not you get like <100 coins lol

[sinful cloud]

And idk if they solved it yet but it wouldnt release the other fleets if you did it manually so seriously no reason to do it that way

[copper nest]

I mean these, idk how much is there but still, it's not like this+gems from campaign will let me buy every dorm slot, 2nd floor, all academy slots, dock space, etc. etc. and every skin

[primal valve]

When will we get an option to clear all enemies on hidden area after collecting all treasure nodes lol

[cursive horizon]

It's pretty obvious I mean that adult women run a gambit of different sizes, there's more than really big or practically flat.

[copper nest]

shimakaze's skin is weird, there's almost nothing there but it's still moving around like a jelly or water balloon (SO REAL btw! ! !)

[cursive horizon]

I remember mentioning that in my guild's channel when I saw the preview. It's kinda freaky.

[sinful cloud]

Ngl I didnt knew that menu exists until now

[hearty crane]

Those 100 coins are even for beating the boss like any other fleet node. The puzzles themselves offer NOTHING, nothing at all. Yet you still need to complete them to clear a zone. Some reward, puzzles were (are?) a penalty for clearing a story chapter.

[keen sinew]

Remove the guild operations exclamation mark. (or change it so it doesn't pop up in the main menu -> just in the guild menu)
Example of a problem:
-guild wants to start the hardest one but doesn't have enough resources, "!" still pops up.
-its distracting when doing the daily mission because you don't know if you already contributed for dailies, or is it just "start a guild operation exclamation mark"

it may be minor but people from my casual guild consider this kinda annoying >.<

[raw quest]

yes pls

[eternal bronze]

i hope im wrong but the patch notes don't specify anything about last anni skins returning

it only says about lucky box

[copper bolt]

because skin rerun is JP only

EN skin rerun is probably black friday in november

which reruns skins that came out before the anni this year

[eternal bronze]

damn what a shame

[copper bolt]

EN anni*

[eternal bronze]

i don't remember it having something like this last year

[copper bolt]

black friday always reruns skins

[eternal bronze]

i mean by anni skins not returning

[copper bolt]

anni skins do rerun, but in the year after during black friday im pretty sure

also looking at last year's patch notes, they did not rerun party skins from JP 1st or 2nd anni

during JP 3rd anni

[reef basin]

rainbow quint 610 are pretty bad torps.
worse than mark IX for manual play and worse than even gold quad mags for auto.
I'm not sure what the idea behind this was.
it needs like a unique aimed converging ability or something.
not to mention the reload

[eternal bronze]

i see

still really bad having to wait more 2 months

[copper bolt]

it is unfortunate but at least you know they are coming

[eternal bronze]

is Valiant party skin likely to be coming aswell?

[copper bolt]

^ should be if the same as last year but I think we should continue this convo elsewhere if u have anything else to add

[eternal bronze]

gotta say its pretty audacious of the devs part for dropping the lucky box of 2020 unlike last year

when skins are not returning

[eternal bronze]

just a correction they aways sold last year lucky boxes but yeah it still sucks to wait more 2 months when you are willing to pay for something

[ionic matrix]

I have a suggestion,

Move the "leave zone warnings" in OpSi to the actual overworld map instead of the zone map. If you have something like meowficer's diving or are carrying a matrix plate, you can't pull up the overworld map to check or do stuff with the Meta fights.

[ionic matrix]

Tbh, it sucks having to wait for back Friday to get a mega skin sale/rerun. Especially since it seems to be the only time EN gets one.

I recall last summer getting some kind of summer skin sale/rerun like black Friday, and I think it would be nice to see a rerun like that pop up more often than once a year...

[full wyvern]

you can, just dont move to another zone you can pop back in to the zone with your meowficers just fine so long as you dont leave that zone and just check meta fights. but yeah cant do anything else

[ionic matrix]

Not in every instance. Just now I couldn't even pull up the overworld map to go to the ashes/meta fights (lost 10 coordinate data)

[full wyvern]

oh i never encountered that. yeah i can see why that would be annoying

[ionic matrix]

Yeah, I was literally just hitting the "overview" button because I needed to go analyze my coordinate data, but it wouldn't let me get to that menu

[copper bolt]

skins usually get rerun in batches for relevant events fairly frequently

[ionic matrix]

True, though I don't recall many previous swimsuits being available again this past summer. Surcouf's L2D swimsuit skin was nowhere to be found this past summer.

But the few skins I want are tied to events that still need to rerun, and since Manjuu has been jumbling up the rerun order, it's taking longer to get to the Northern Overture rerun than it would have had they rerun them in order like they were before. (Also hopefully the race queen skins are getting a rerun soon since they teased Enty and Eugen RQ on the JP 4th anni stream)

[sinful cloud]

That wasnt Bel?

[fierce ember]

getting my hands on the final stage of the event i really begin to think that having some sort of independent from ships player-controlled mechanic for areal support(plane/buller baggaes,heals,mobs on our side etc)would be a great idea

[kindred vessel]

In that case you could have tapped on the coordinate data where it says 100/100 and then on “Analyse”. It by passes the overworld map, that error, and takes you directly to Meta Showdown.

[ionic matrix]

Did no know that. Will keep it in mind for the future. Thanks.

However, I still think the warnings could be moved to the overworld map when you try to move zones rather than when you try to pull up the overworld map.

[hearty crane]

That technique doesnt work if you have a META in progress. It SHOULD but it doesn't

[copper nest]

I know you like flexing with l2d and make everything wobbly and stuff but damn.. that mail on cheshire's skin is 😐 funny
but chibi is glorious

[celest abyss]

Ty devs for re running 3rd anni party dresses

[copper bolt]

^

[subtle perch]

so... it looks like there isn't going to be anymore buffs for dds which kinda sux cause the current ones barely do anything for them outside of make the already decent or good ones a lil better. still not really worth using them thou.

honestly what should have been done is:

1. increase all dd's torp stat that's under 350 to at least that at lvl 100. its a shame seeing torp cruisers do more damage than some dd with torps. others with 300+ would just get a boost to there's.
   (ex. low 300 torp stat would be low 400, mid 300 = mid 400. etc. thou 500+ stat would get a smaller one to stay under mid 500s.)
2. add torps to all dd's AOA. (seriously y isn't this a thing)
3. replace some of the more useless skills on them with something more useful (ex: full firepower with torp barrage or buff)
4. last but not least, the way the recent buff wasn't given to them. dds with lower torp stat should have faster AOA activation buff so they can be more like a dps type of dd. others with high torp stat would get the aux buff (with some exceptions). and all of them should get the last one. (u'know after they all get torps on AOA)

but yea, that's just kinda how i feel about the dd buff. i feel like the overall buff was lukewarm and really only catered towards dds with high damage potential already. in the end they still feel meh or bad to use.

tldr: give all dds at least 350 torp stat at lvl 100. give torps to all dds AOA. replace some of dds useless skills with something better. weaker torp stat dds should get the half-off AOA buff to be more dps. and others should get other buff. all get the better torp hitting thing (don't remember that 3rd one to well.

[copper nest]

3rd buff was smaller spread of torps

[subtle perch]

that's what it was, hmm... i think they'd all benefit from that one since torp cruiser would have normal spread ones

[sinful cloud]

Still have to notice any difference

[raw quest]

it just makes manual face torping better

[winter hearth]

Add more secretary slots. It's too low. I would put 7-8 ships as secretary. Or at least add secretary presets for fast changing of secretaries and their skins.

[velvet adder]

I agree more secretary slots 5 is way too low, waifu count is always increasing but secretary slots staying the same, needs going up to at least 10

[modest island]

[ionic matrix]

I concur with the secretary slot increase. I did put here a while back that I'd like to have secretary groups or presets, so I could change all of them at once instead of one at a time. It would also allow us to save a couple of specific sets of girls as secretaries.

[copper bolt]

would like more secretary slots as well, previously it was 1 and they added 4 more depending on how far you got in story, with W14 coming Ig we can get one more?

or add some for other things like having a dev 30 DR or something like that?

[copper nest]

Or just straight up more 😐

[eternal bronze]

not only secretary slots but also fleet slots or some feature to save fleet presets

[ornate basin]

both been suggested

or.. all 3?? have been suggested

[eternal bronze]

yeah even so it would be cool if something can be done to fix it

[signal latch]

Can we get a version of the Cheshire skin that features some of the dress layers removed like in the reddit post that shows what the skin looks like under all the dress layers?

[eternal bronze]

also i want to say that returning the last anni skins was the right decision

good job keep it up

[median berry]

Since there's still room for more filters, please add a filter to the dock that will find 'not max limit broken' ships, that would be very helpful!

[copper bolt]

don't think it's a "fix" but more a QoL improvement

[eternal bronze]

yeah

[sinful cloud]

Always loved Swiftsure's skins but now Aquila too, they both have such great skins so far, blessed be their artists

[spark abyss]

would be great if we got higher tech box tiers for submarine and asw equipment

[hasty mountain]

+1 to more secretary slots, there are too many skins and too few slots

[cursive horizon]

I agree, and people with numerous oathed ships would no doubt appreciate being able to put as many of them as possible into circulation.

[merry grove]

Increase the Max level on Merchant and Canteen!!

[arctic siren]

Pls allow an option to view every single loading screen in the game in a gallery, including currently unused past loading screens

[cursive horizon]

Did someone actually make the Feedback card for just repurposing the Gallery to be the Loading Screen selector? Cause they really should do that. It's nice to look at the pics in there, sure, but I'd rather just enable/disable various loading screens through it.

[winter hearth]

Male a feature people visiting your dorm can be sent to second floor instead of first Floor

[copper bolt]

Add an option for the 1st and 2nd floor of the dorm viewable at the same time in dorm and maybe add a 3rd floor (purely cosmetic or add more xp/morale regen)? Would be nice to be able to use furniture sets considering how many there are in the game now and make the stairs furniture actually connect between floors for more chibi interactions ^^

[scenic flower]

Also, an option for clanmates to visit our dorms without being friends.

[river linden]

Add mystery nodes as part of the target when using auto search

[true schooner]

More fleet tech levels when?

[minor robin]

what?

@paper idol wrong channel

[copper bolt]

Can we get finer controls over Fleet Tech bonuses e.g. RLD bonus can mess up timings and we want to adjust our bonus from +5 to 0 for example. To balance it out, you would need to pay gold to change it and it can't be done on a per ship basis but the whole fleet? With a CD of 24 hrs as well possibly too?

Same for oathed ships would be nice too

[sinful cloud]

If you do pls dont put a CD, enough with this

[winter hearth]

Add Kindergarten dorm. We have a lot of Lolis, so they need to go to kindergarten, but we have noone

[high pond]

We already have that 😭😭😭

[winter hearth]

Really? Where?

[high pond]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Decorations#Playground

[winter hearth]

🤔

[modest island]

[wanton jacinth]

Can you guys consider releasing a co op mode where we can bring our fleet and play with our friends.

[finite dome]

UR meowfficer when?

[hasty mountain]

or any new meowfficer at least

[scenic osprey]

In Operation Siren, spending all your AP to enter a stronghold over an unexplored zone, then leaving early to immediately enter a logger node (any logger node that requires exit via teleporter, so no Siren or Strongholds)... Then leaving that logger node by the teleporter locks your fleet to that zone (until you recover enough AP).

Leaving by teleporter, the game is returning you to the last zone you visited.. The unexplored zone under the stronghold I initially left (which needs AP to enter). The fleet on the teleporter is stuck until you have enough AP to exit/enter. You cannot leave the zone from the map edges (logger zone). You must regain AP and click on the fleet trapped in the exit teleporter.

Some warning please.

[forest snow]

Any chance to add USS Indiana into the game?

[hearty crane]

I mean, that's also the way the entire storymode works? You need to do a really specific sets of moves (and somehow run out of AP. Honestly, who runs out of AP?).

[primal valve]

Just spend oils for AP

[finite dawn]

Remove the limit on 2 operations per month for guilds, or allow only the guild owner to run an operation more than 2 times a month. I am so tired of situations where officers accidentally launch more than 2 operations per month. Also add more guild logs. So that I can know who exactly started the operation. Every month I explain to the officers that there is no need to launch more than 2 operations a month, but apparently someone forgets. I want to know who.

[velvet adder]

make it so that filters by default dont show purins/bulins in the retire screen i have a billion of them so when i have an extra trashy gold i can scrap i have to scroll down manually and select em

or have a hide purin/bulin button

[short flume]

It's unintended (probably), but you can hide purin/bulins using the enhancable filter. Although it would be nice to have a dedicated button for it instead of a side effect of another filter

[velvet adder]

yeah it looks so nice when i have the enhanceable filter on so clean

[hearty crane]

There's zero point in bulin in the enhance screen too since they give zero value in the first place.

[viscid moon]

Some way of seeing the total number of BPs you've invested in a PR would be nice

[hearty crane]

I think ones left have more use than ones spend... and we GOT something for that somewhat (catch-up) but it's in the wrong place and gets a giant banner over it making it unusable once you're done rather than keeping all this handy info readable...

[viscid moon]

True

[nova girder]

on the note of blueprints when it comes to catch up it includes DR bp count for fate sim as well which really muddles how many BP you need. (Especially since Freddy doesn't have Fate yet, I think?) In general it should have an option to include or not include the fate BPs imo.

[fallow latch]

Alternative pvp mode that functions like a boss rush (like techbox daily kinda) but bosses are enemy fleet and bullet patterns are determined by equipment

[cloud zenith]

whitelist class in chat rooms so that it’s easier to to talk about ship classes

[real cobalt]

Can we get a new type of commission? Like the one we have to pay 1k-ish oil for but instead we have to pay coins and as a reward it can give 4k oil? So its exactly like. The fleet defense commission but it rewards oil instead of coins? If that makes any sense?

[modest island]

for me personally having more options for oil --> coin is better, as im never low on oil but always low on coins

[cursive horizon]

I am always in need of coins, to the point that it frequently bottlenecks what I can do.

[valid nest]

Add Scherzo of Iron Blood into the EN War Archives. It's been almost a year since it's release in CN/JP.

[hearty crane]

How about AP? I always suggest a 1200oilcom for AP, sonce one thing we never run out of... is AP.

[real cobalt]

Wouldnt be a fair trade because AP is easy to restore. As some people run low on coin they can use 1.2k oil to get at least 4.5k. Coin. In a commission, thats why i suggested a similar. Commision but for 1.2k coin you can get at least 4.5k oil. Cause i run out of oil more than coin.

[hasty mountain]

yes and no, there is seemingly a lot of AP going around, but the amount of AP you can get in a month is hard limited

[kindred vessel]

Yea but actually no

[undone hull]

Oils a much higher scarcity resource than coin so 1.2k coin for 4.5k oil is super out of whack.
Could see something like 5k coin for 1k oil maybe but it would still be problematic.

[kindred vessel]

A lucky enough player could earn theoretically unlimited AP

[kindred vessel]

You’d also be able to turn 4.5k oil into at least that much gold if not double

Would result in an insane positive feedback loop that’d quickly spiral out of control

[silver depot]

Not really, after you exhaust the AP crates from zone clear rewards and port shops, the only supply left is pretty much just Akashi merchants, which need AP to find anyway?

[fierce sonnet]

you can find an akashi that sells you three 100AP boxes in a 20AP map

[silver depot]

Yes but that is a very rare occurence (in my experience, as someone that used literally all the available AP boxes up for the first 6 months of opsi), using the AP on maps looking for Akashi merchants will only result in eventually decreasing AP supply

[fierce sonnet]

key phrase being lucky enough player

also do u know how busted 1.2k coins for 4.5k oil would be

someone who farms this game can easily get an unlimited supply of oil

[silver depot]

I mean a lucky enough player could finish all event builds in one 10 pull, I don't think that means we should balance cube income / event rates on the luckiest player.
And yeah obviously 1.2k coins for 4.5k oil is not sensible. I would prefer something like just being able to use AP in place of oil in 10hour comms, probably with reduced coin output, since that alone would mean like 2.4k extra oil available per day

[kindred vessel]

@silver depot yeah I was just positing a theoretical luckiest man who ever lived

But it’s still possible just improbable

[fierce sonnet]

someone who is competent can farm up 1.2k coins in an hour for like 200 oil or less if u could throw those coins to get 4.5k+ oil its literally infinite oil

[silver depot]

I'm not sure who you're disagreeing with, since everyone talking at the moment is of the same opinion on 1.2k coins -> too much oil doesn't make sense . but anyway, guess I'll come up with a reasonable suggestion to make to bel bot if there isn't already similar collected-feedback

[fierce sonnet]

i aint disagreeing with anyone just pointing out how a dedicated enough player can get infinite oil if that were a thing

[scenic osprey]

Yeah it's a really specific set involving strongholds on an unexplored zone and a logger zone, but getting bumped into an unexplored zone is not what I expected (I thought it would have taken me to the stronghold I left or a friendly dock).

But fair point on never running out of AP in OpSi. It's just the pop-up asking to add AP on the logger zone exit tile and not being able to move that fleet off said exit that surprised me.

[real cobalt]

Its an example. Not how it should be.

[real cobalt]

I meant it as an example and obviously i dont think it should be that low. If anything double the amount of coin to the reward of oil. 4.5k oil = 9k coin or more.

[hasty mountain]

the chance of this "lucky enough player" getting infinite AP is unrealistic at best, what next, you're gonna tell me Dream's speedrun is perfectly legit?

[fierce sonnet]

buddy why are u arguing this still lmao its just a hypothetical

[hasty mountain]

the question is why this irrelevant point was even raised in the first place

[cursive horizon]

Any idea what the last few "out of date updates" that happened spontaneously in the middle of the night were for? I do wish they'd tell us sometimes what they're supposedly fixing.

[grizzled rose]

Why was shima skill line changed recently, who complained?

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/534621810306580500/888319091876700160/image0.jpg

Picture has original en line on right hand

[hearty crane]

Its not, it takes 3 runs to get go over 100AP, and that has a high likelihood of Akashi. You just need 1 gold AP box to make it positive, add some purple and its easy enough to get far more AP from Akashi than you spend... rate gets even better if not using corrossion 6.

[faint hinge]

JP/CN was changed as well

[eternal bronze]

i guess they changed it for the sole reason of well....

changing it

its not the first time they do something like this tho

[eternal bronze]

it was not changed recently from what i've seen, its been like this since the event started

they make it like this due to localization purposes

many lines from ships can be different in a similar way compared to other regions languages and Shima is no exception in this

[fluid grotto]

tech box sell button

[stone valley]

Tech box craft button

[formal oyster]

Why is this necessary

[void schooner]

It isn't. Would be nice if they let you claim the weekly cores anyway though, even if at the monthly cap. Stings a little seeing that go to waste every month.

[formal oyster]

Whatever, I don't mind the waste, getting to the cap is rather easy anyway. I would just like for this confirmation thing to go away.
Acknowledging that the items will be lost is pointless if they will be lost anyway and there's nothing you can do about it.

[hearty crane]

It wasn't. People only got confused when it was added, and as stated its 100% useless. I have no idea why they did that.

[winter hearth]

What about to add system when 10% of the experience of the ship has 120 lvl and 3KK exp will be saved as "experience chips". So that means if you always play your 120 + 3KK Waifus you will be able to level another ships. With not really good efficiency, because it's only 10%, but the opportunity is there.
Because now if you have 3KK ship it makes no sense to play them. Even if it is waifu you will play her rarely just because of exp burned

[nova girder]

They're upping the level cap to 125 with W14(?) so prepare to spend those exps then

And I think the exp hall is getting some sort of rework?

[delicate lance]

they did mention something about it iirc

[copper bolt]

the academy lecture hall exists that does this already (sort of) for lvl 100+ ships, you get 10-20% of the xp they earn and it is stored and u use it like the dorm except morale gets drained

also opsi gives you the opportunity to use lvl 120s since you don't lose out of very much xp at all

but yeah, otherwise it's usually once you get a ship to lvl 120, they sit on the bench until u actually need their power as you level new ships

and what herb and nagami said, they're updating the lecture hall in some way as well

[golden cape]

This should be the skin

Her first skin and its censored. How disappointing

[cursive horizon]

No. Fucking. Thank you. I'm so sick of nice looking outfits ruined by unnecessary chest exposure.

[golden cape]

I mean you always get those people that wish they could have a choice between the og art and the censored. I want that but for this basically

[stuck bramble]

JP also has the covered chest...

You guys need to calm the fuck down...

[golden cape]

Yeah cause if CN keep getting censored art while we get uncensored they will complain most likely.

[cursive horizon]

Sorry, I know I was rude and apologize. I just like the more covered versions on some outfits, and I agree that being able to select which we see would be nice. However, I do believe one of the devs said this wasn't possible, though they didn't clarify why.

[inner frost]

My best guess is either of 1), It wouldn't go over well with the CN playerbase if we were allowed to pick between censored/uncensored or 2), Storage since it would double the size of most skins since they now have two variants.

[acoustic helm]

does the skins even take that much space?

[golden cape]

If a dev said it wasnt possible it really just meant what I said previously.

[copper nest]

Options are always welcome but well, it requires work xd but brings no income so why bother ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[eternal bronze]

adding a option to censored and uncensored would definitly add more costs

thought it was one of the most voted things to happen

so idk why they instantly declined it without further explanation

#collected-feedback message

as you can all see here

[copper nest]

costs? these skins are already made in two version so it's a matter of adding functionality to choose one version or the other, so if done correctly it's one time only work 🤔

[cursive horizon]

The cost issue may be that people will be getting two versions for the price of one, and that's bad. Of course, if the censored version is what compels people to buy an outfit they'd have otherwise passed up on.. you'd think that'd be good.

[eternal bronze]

by costs i mean by programmers working more to include this feature every patch

but im not against it, i even voted positively when that feedback came up, it would be a great QoL change.

[bronze elk]

pretty much solves any issue of preference on the playerbase's end

[eternal bronze]

yeah pretty much

[copper nest]

this and loading screen selector

[eternal bronze]

funnily enough skins are the thing that has the most problems in the game

some even created by the devs themselves

like EX lines

and its one of their main source of income

[hearty crane]

They are both in the files already so 2 literally makes no sense. I am pretty sure "we can't" is literally "we don't wanna" in this specific case.

[copper nest]

lol

if people are so concerned with storage space why are cheshire's legs and "content" under dress taking that precious space when it's not needed in that l2d skin at all 😐 it's not visible, nothing

[eternal bronze]

just buy a SD card

kekw

[copper nest]

if only you could actually use sd card for the game

[golden cape]

I'm no programmer but it seems like a quick job if you know what you're doing.

I probably shouldn't talk on matters of which I know nothing though.

[eternal bronze]

at least you can save your shit there so it doens't take space

still they could simply add a option if you would like to download as a optional feature

as everything that exists in this game (like audio and L2Ds)

problem solved

[hearty crane]

As said, all censored skins are already part of the package. All music is already part of the package. Loading screens however are NOT part of the package.

[copper nest]

there's no problem to solve because both versions are already in game files
#game-feedback message

[eternal bronze]

any source of this?

[hearty crane]

When going through the files look for the "_hx" extension

[humble prawn]

should i care about pushing for saint louis early on in the shipyard? she looks neato, but i feel kinda sora about burning so many retrofit blueprints

[eternal bronze]

hmmm so its true that they just don't feel like doing it

[eternal bronze]

i think that should be a question for another channel

[humble prawn]

god i am really sorry i misclicked

[eternal bronze]

no problem

it happens

[sinful cloud]

They leave so many in the files when they should be replaced that it shouldnt matter at this point

[thorn dust]

Make this torpedo either shoot 6 torps or change the art to only depict 3 tubes. It’s a bit scummy to show 6 tubes but not shoot 6 torpedoes

[velvet adder]

Maybe I can recommend converting non-T3 purple blueprints to gold T2/T3 blueprints

[cursive horizon]

You sort of can via the Gear Lab, I believe. It just costs gold/resources to make them.

[velvet adder]

I'm saying it because many people have like hundreds or thousands of unused purple gear bps, so better to convert it to SR gear bps, more efficient way of getting SR gear

[south sequoia]

FYI, it's a "we can't" in this case. CN art falls under bilibili.

[hearty crane]

If they were original arts I could understand that, but these are literal variations of the same art. What are they, the Sonic fandom?

[ornate basin]

im quite positive there is areola being displayed in this drawing, might want a mod to doublecheck that

[winter hearth]

Maybe it would be better if we could sell this BPs

[fierce ember]

i think we need to have option to lock gear from scrapping and not even appearing on the scrapping screen like we do with ships,so items like VC armor (which currently is event locked) or other event only items(or items you just dont want to scrap) wont be accidentally gone/flood the scrap pool when you only want to scrap junk

and another thing,items(event only without permanent way of obtaining,rainbow items regardless of obtaining method) and ships(meta,pr,dr) that cannot be scrapped and are obtainable in only one copy should be free of dock space since they cannot be removed by any way shape or form taking 1 slot permanently regardless if you want them in your dock or not,and that is quite the issue with how limiting the slots can be for collection

[sinful cloud]

The lecture hall getting the passive xp is cool but the tweet made it seem that we still will have the option to use grinded xp for classes so if the upgrade cost is still more than a darn PR ship, personally still gonna let it rot in the level its at

[fluid grotto]

tech box sell button

[kindred vessel]

make T4 boxes craftable

[cursive horizon]

Would also like to craft T4 boxes. I have so many of the T3's, only opening them occasionally when I'm looking for something and hoping to get lucky, or a quest wants it.

[fierce sonnet]

let me disassemble more than 40 equips at once

[raw quest]

or a quick disassemble like quick retire

[copper bolt]

for the gear issue, a "solution" rn is to just equip it on a ship you don't use to save on gear space

[copper bolt]

well upgrading the lecture hall increases how much xp u earn towards it and how much gets given to your ships. I've probably given over 30 million xp to my ships through the lecture hall

I think the upfront gold investment is fine for something permanent though?

[hearty crane]

[fierce ember]

more like crutch then anything else,but there is not even one for ships which i consider to be a problem,since now you get like 20-30 slots taken by ships you are physically unable to retire or get rid of

[copper bolt]

yeah ik it doesnt really solve the issue and a gear lock feature would be really nice, it's just u can do that for now to prevent u accidentally retiring it ^^

[hearty crane]

The one thing that is a total waste is the catbox upgrade from guilds. That one is just... so bad.

[fierce ember]

technically all of those ships use distinct features and screens(aka pr and meta screens) for their upgrades so this is just confusing to me why they take regular ship slots both,from mechanical and from logical standpoints

[sinful cloud]

When I have to use oil, time and still get time gated to use that xp on the ships... yeah no, ill grind normally

[copper bolt]

ngl, I don't focus on "using" the lecture hall. It's more, if I have xp because I've been playing normally, I'll just use the lecture hall. If I haven't been playing, then I just empty it out until the next time I'm using some oil/doing event grinding and use it again the next time

[fierce ember]

and the other thing,after reading the JP patchnotes (which would obviously apply to us as well)
using mk2 cognitive chips to limitbreak post 120 seems to not be the best idea since even now older players have shit ton of them laying around that you cant make use of (i myself have like 64k even after not caring about dailies)

AND if you can only obtain new mk2 through map drops/dailies like was stated without the option of converting mk1->mk2 its not gonna solve the issues and will just bring up another currency everyone is gonna need really hard at the start,and later will be piling up and gathering dust without anyone caring about it like with mk1

[sinful cloud]

They're putting another currency?

[copper bolt]

some hard grinders of the game literally have 0 cog chips so they'd probably complain a lot more if it wasn't a new currency.

[fierce ember]

at this point we will literally need cognitive chip shops

[sinful cloud]

How about giving more options to get more chips for those ppl instead of wasting resources and time creating yet another thing when it could be used to fix actual problems

Like seriously what was the point of cat finishers, who runs out of normal ones, not to mention 20 minutes for one when you're limited to 8(?) per day with max slots and a SR box takes 12 HOURS

[copper bolt]

ty devs

[sinful cloud]

Stop the time gating boner and actually think for once pls

[fierce ember]

timegating has to be a part of the gacha for reasons(and i somewhat got used to it),but indroducing another pile of currencies when we cant make full use of older is kinda not getting in to my head

[copper bolt]

time gates are very normal in gacha games at least in my experience

but yeah, there's is quite a lot of time gates rn

[sinful cloud]

No, time gating things is normal yeah, putting on every fucking thing it aint

I agree with some like the canteen, merchant, shops and such but others like switching PR ships, why just why

Funny that with grinding, they're literally hurting their possible income with the mood system
You can whale for more oil but time gated by the mood so ends up being less possible money... 10/10 renevue system

Which additionally makes the x2 even less useful

[hasty mountain]

once again I turn to jp twitter for actual info about the updates
it looked promising when en posted the notice about the daily raids but alas, it was wasted hope

[copper bolt]

is it really that big of a deal that EN patch notes are released a few hours later

[sinful cloud]

Think they meant that JP gives actual detailed information when EN is just "optimized"

[fierce ember]

the whole game is "optimised" so its not new

[naive cobalt]

Ye, but EN patch notes literally are not out yet.
Complaining that "yet again they aren't as detailed as JP" when they don't exist is... interesting to say the least.

[hasty mountain]

? they never are

JP has actual dedicated tweets explaining the new systems

we get "lol optimized exp hall lol"

[cursive horizon]

I think the complaint is that they're not very informative, rather than that they're not out yet. At least that's what I see more of, anyways. My guild just grabs the patch notes from Japan and runs them through a translator at this point.

[cursive horizon]

Also, wanted to say a big thanks to them as well for this!

[hasty mountain]

basically you look through the jp tweets

find one that contains the word お知らせ

hit translate

and voila, actual information about what is being changed in the game

concrete example: https://twitter.com/azurlane_staff/status/1442347510610096132

アズールレーン公式 (@azurlane_staff)

【お知らせ】
次回メンテナンス後、セイレーン作戦での「自動攻略モード」で下記の仕様が更新される予定です。

エリアマップに最初から配置される隠れ資源ポイント(スキャンモードで確認可能)を自動で回収するようになります。

ご注意ください！
#アズールレーン

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Twitter · Sep 27, 2021, 4:36 AM

I don't even need to see the en patch notes that haven't been posted yet, I can already tell what it is going to be: a single-liner "optimized auto-search in operation siren"

[loud axle]

Not gonna lie, that is a valid that is a slight annoyance/issue.

Jp is always upfront about the changes/ new features, but when it comes to EN notes and notices, they usually don't go in depth unless its a massive feature

[naive cobalt]

Sorry, thought you meant patch notes specifically, not separate tweets.

[hasty mountain]

the worst thing is that the jp actual patch notes, the equivalent of the only thing that en actually posts, acually briefly describe the same thing detailed in the above tweet, as shown in the quoted message

they didn't have to, because they have the detailed tweet, most of the time even with images

yet we get neither

[loud axle]

I wonder if that will be fixed for the future. this patch coming up is too big/semi important as it has many gameplay additions

would be nice if they went in depth as Jp/cn does

[hearty crane]

Finally. Wonder if it includes the spot from Promoted Pawns. Probably they overlooked that 😦

[hearty crane]

You can do both at once? My lecture hall is pretty much always full, so I run classes 24/7, except sunday... bloody sunday. We'll see how much better the new system will be cause it's passive xp already.

[sinful cloud]

Oh yeah, was talking about this the other day
So we are getting new raids levels right but what is the subs one gonna drop? The lvl 65 one is already better than the lvl75 since it has a higher chance of dropping mk8 prints

[hearty crane]

Or they should just buy some chips, they've added actual stores of that stuff in the game, beats me why. But I think it's more likely they want to limit all of us that do have tons of that shit to not get to 125 instantly since we drown in those things already... and they keep adding more ways they give them, without more USES!

[sinful cloud]

Mine too but not gonna upgrade it further than already is since it costs more than I payed for Seattle earlier and already have to spend time and oil to get the xp to fill it

Just not worth imo

[hasty mountain]

oh look, another event archive jp is getting, how much you wanna bet we ain't seeing that one on our side?

[sinful cloud]

Needs muh 3 weeks for rate up to us

[copper nest]

rate up is cool, there's also no problem with getting archive rate up mixed with event (or after event or before event, but notice that there's something coming would be needed!!!), there's no need to pull both, if you can't manage both then pull for event, archived ships will be still there in perma pool 🙂

[hearty crane]

Do we need to remind game-feedback again 'remove rate-up' got ratio'd like nothing else?

[raw quest]

it got downvoted like crazy

[sinful cloud]

Or you know, the 2 weeks between events... its only 1 week of rate up either way

[copper nest]

anything really

[copper bolt]

#collected-feedback message 1:9 pretty much

[cloud sable]

i mean the whole thing with removing rate up with archive is kinda pointless
just keep it, but warn people that there wont be an extended break before the next event that way people who still really want them can get them

if people roll on them and then are low on cubes thats their fault

[eternal bronze]

they should add a new tab on construction just for that

so it doens't interfere with events

[cloud sable]

it doesnt though? archive rate up isnt event tab
its literally just rate up in one of the base build tabs, heavy or special
you can have it at the same time as an event banner without any issues

[eternal bronze]

is it that so?

[cloud sable]

from an old archive

[eternal bronze]

so why they don't bring it when we are literally falling behind other regions archives?

[sinful cloud]

Yes

DC was in special pool, that many (myself included) already do pull from it to get the subs

[cloud sable]

No idea but theyre probably trying to stop people from complaining about too much rate ups
as i said before i think they should just add them anyways

[sinful cloud]

But still do the wishing wells on events

[cloud sable]

thats just because wishing well is from anniv
and anniv comes with event
its unavoidable

unless you just do wishing well at some random time through the year

[sinful cloud]

Iirc last year's anniv Scherzo rerun was right after Noctis, no idea if it had the well too but didnt see many complains and thats 2 big events in a row

[cloud sable]

people complained more this year since the first wishing well we had overlapped with NJ event, and NJ is NJ

[sinful cloud]

Problems with giving a stupidly powerful ship on gacha, who would have thought

[cursive horizon]

Shame rate-ups are 2 cubes even when they're heading to light-build afterwards.

[nova girder]

let's be real, no WA coming ever on EN again 😂

[snow juniper]

when... I love to see this

[valid nest]

Seriously, another war archives to JP, and yet no one for EN. Gives us Scherzo of Iron Blood already, and lots of other missing from our server. That's some BS right there, sorry about that.

[hearty crane]

CE is up first anyway.

[kindred vessel]

I just want to say these patch notes for EN are a lot more thorough than what we've sometimes gotten in the past. Explanations are more on par with the JP notes and not just vague generalisations. More like these!

[raw quest]

yes

[real cobalt]

Can we get the weekly missions increased? The current one can be done in about a day and then the weekly dissapears. Can stuff be added after like x amount of coins, oil, gear parts? So we can earn stuff even if we finish it all in a day? Just curious on asking that.

[kindred vessel]

weeklies are kind of geared towards the login warriors who play once a day for like 1-2hrs max. If you're not a tryhard (unlike most of us on this server) it'll usually take 2 or sometimes 3 days to finish them.

[delicate lance]

nice patch notes

[raw quest]

the patch notes is pretty good now comparing it to jp patch notes
https://www.azurlane.jp/news-item.html?i=1221 < JP patch notes

[real cobalt]

I play once a week at best but i finish it all in a day due to pr xp farming rn. And gearing up my fleets.

[sinful cloud]

Was said already but ty for the better patch notes

Also I dont mind these types of battle pass but really hoping you didnt time gate it to be a mission per day cause if so screw it

[frank lodge]

Going behind even further. It's already 6 behind at this point with that announcement + hint of tragicomedy archive come close after it

[copper bolt]

that's how 99% of battlepasses work though

[frank lodge]

It's should've not really that hard to update archive, right ? or we really need to wait en dying with no event at all in order to get it ? Since we don't really get any archives update at all when any event exist (even mini event like poi retrofit and some skin mini event).

[copper bolt]

who knows, there's always going to be people annoyed no matter which way manjuu decide to give EN the War Archives

because some people will complain about lack of cubes/no break

others will prefer the war archive over new events

the schedule is synced across all servers now so running War Archives and rate up on EN will be difficult with more dead time on other servers even though they already have the war archive

best way is probably along some sort of mini event inbetween 2 non UR events or something

[copper bolt]

but then some people will be like this if that is the case

[sinful cloud]

It aint tho

Worst case scenario they make you buy more missions but most of the time it lets you continue the grind

[copper bolt]

well most BP systems ik have missions that u can do to unlock different tiers of a battlepass right? Sure you could blast through all those missions and unlock a bunch of tiers really fast but once u run out of those missions, progress on the BP grinds to a halt

at least until those mission reset daily/weekly

i'd imagine it'll be something similar but may as well wait until it's actually implemented since they're not going to change anything now

[frank lodge]

If they insist to do it like that, I don't think we will see any archives till en dying. Except when they just put archives as usual without any rate up bullshit like how rest servers always do. So you guys won't whine about no cubes and rest

[copper bolt]

im not saying I will whine, just there will be people that will complain

[sinful cloud]

The one Im most familiar atm would be WT
It gives you progress on login, 2 daily missions, can buy special ones on top of that with the currency of the BP and give you some challenges that take a while to do for grinding (and keep you playing in the proccess)

[copper bolt]

personally idrc about war archives but that's because I was around for the original and rerun of all events so I haven't missed any particular ship

just pointing out other viewpoints

[frank lodge]

Thus why I said "you guys" that still insist want unnecessary rate up that made archive delayed forever.

[copper bolt]

I have all the ships so idrc about the rate-up

like I said, I'm just pointing out other view points

[frank lodge]

I also said about view point of how it actually not that bad if there are no rate up.

no rate up and archive released like how it supposed to be -> you guys won't whine about no cube/rest -> en will be truly caught up with very latest update without anything left behind-> happy end.

if they still insist, they will either sacrifice new events or delay archive for years. Thus why suggestion about no archive rate up is actually not that bad for better syncing.

[hasty mountain]

looks like the requests for better patch notes have finally been heard, thank you

[raw quest]

already in #collected-feedback and got downvoted like crazy

[frank lodge]

ikr. Sad how those people not even actually try to think even further :(

[hasty mountain]

how about this then: next update, dump all legacy events at the same time into war archives bringing it to parity with jp server, run all rate ups for them at the same time
you wanted rate ups, you get rate ups

[sinful cloud]

Ppl dont like to get more stuff, just look at the WA keys suggestion

Which speaking of which, why is that thing also gated USE THE MFKING OIL AS THE LIMITER... whats your massive boner with time gating things

[frank lodge]

Would like to agree that, but without rate up instead. so just update archive and done. those ppl won't whine about no cube/rest with that.

[hasty mountain]

permanent implementation of a monthly resetting wishing well would solve the need for rateup while at the same time preventing the cube/rest complainers, but what would you know that was downvoted as well

[nova girder]

Another thing for WAs is that the invitations that happen time to time include perma pooled ships so for example with Bismarck event they could say that there's invitation coming down the line (for example xmas) that includes Bismarck and KGV to pick from

So people would know they're coming "easily" accessible down the line

[frank lodge]

Those invitation problem already happened multiple times on en, with so much exclusion because some event ships wasn't archived yet.

yet another good reason why archive that's still left behind should be released faster, so en can get really fair, same ship selection invitation like rest servers

[nova girder]

So have ships like Amagi been on the invitations on JP/CN?

I mean we're kind of having the repeat feedback conversation each time but it would be nice if there were updates on the situation in general

[frank lodge]

Yup. Something similar case like that

[nova girder]

I guess my point is that the transparency for feedback being received is kind of non-existent. Seemingly the patch note thing has been noted (and guess it's easily "implemented"), but it's sort of you never know

[sinful cloud]

The game is beggining to be full of problems but they decide to waste time on making unecessary items and system instead of improving
Seriously if you think about it
-Mood system and 2nd floor, when oil is already a limiter

• Cat finishers when normal ones are more tham enough
• The whole research part of PR, could just unlock the ships like normal ones and made the gear lab much earlier for the gear
• WA keys cause yes, cant have ppl grind in their pace
• Most of TB's lines are useless and cut with the option most use

Could continue but think the point is made

Funny that if the BP is really one mission per day, I wonder how some CN players are gonna do it with their playing time limitations

[frank lodge]

||AL already set as 18+ there, so not really a problem||

[sinful cloud]

Really? Lmao

[hearty crane]

Still far less than 5 of old and hardly worthy of the name "weeklies"

[hearty crane]

I heard about 10k grind per day cap so brace for dissapointment I guess.

[sinful cloud]

Great, even less than the meta skills

Guess mobile games are meant to be the garbage can of the industry and not something to spend your day in

[hearty crane]

Daily reminder to game-feedback that "remove rate-up" got ratio'd

[velvet adder]

idk why people dont just have patience about archives jp doesnt have rate ups with them as far as i know, and en has to slot them in very well so that the rate ups that come with them dont fuck people over before a new major event (they did it before and people lost their minds over it)

do you guys really want that 1 archive unit (that is most likely 2 years behind in meta anyway so is trash) so badly that youre willing to risk a UR from build?

[hearty crane]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Floating_Funland#Summer_Invitation This is JPs latest invite. As you can see, literally the same as EN except for their regional ships they always stuff in there, the crane sisters. People, you don't have to lie.

[sinful cloud]

Trash of one, treasure of another
Personally meta is the most stupid thing to follow

[velvet adder]

en has had cranes in invites before (this is early summer 2020 i think)

[frank lodge]

said happened in the past doesn't necessary happened in latest one, so

[velvet adder]

the new ones seems to exchange them out for NC and washy it seems

[nova girder]

Good to know that the invitation thing isn't that bad then.

do you guys really want that 1 archive unit (that is most likely 2 years behind in meta anyway so is trash)

Bismarck is still pretty much a necessity for KMS
Amagi is pretty good still

[hearty crane]

That's how I got Zuikaku... but most of the time we get 2 special picks and they the sisters.

Like now our 3rd anni vs their 4th anni

[nova girder]

and Tosa as well from Amagi event

[velvet adder]

they they changed them during early summer 2021

[nova girder]

and it's hard to say it's about patience at this point when we're many, many events behind with (probably) no end in sight to that

[hearty crane]

As Moonlit Overture stuffs all ships in the shops that one doesn't need a rate-up (nor can really), just leaving the other 2 and Polaris.

[nova girder]

Plus I think meta point is a bit moot because it IS a waifu game at its core

[frank lodge]

but I don't. and this is one of example that happened in the past. not necessary latest one, but it's still true regardless ||and could happened again in the future if rest server featured newer permanent ships in invitation||

source : https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Lights_of_Circle_City

so, yeah. archive is still good to get updated faster

[copper nest]

archive is the new research bad

cool patch notes

[agile gazelle]

we still need CE and SOIAB archived

And New Orleans too

that's like three overdue, JP/CN has them for over a year now

[stone valley]

didn’t the polaris event happen before both of CE and Scherzo reruns though? It sorta makes sense for it to archive for us. But the real question is if JP and CN have crescendo archived (if the don’t, they missed a whole event ) but I also find it kind of weird we never got a rerun of it… instead we got a new event with new idol ships and the 1st ones weren’t rated up in the build pool. The WA process in general is just a confusing mess rn tbh

[agile gazelle]

we kinda had polaris 2.0 last fall

not a direct rerun but still

so unless they count both polaris events as one then archive will be prolly next year

[eternal bronze]

Just want to say that the XP changes are looking great in paper, i will be taking a deep look into it when the update goes live.

[hearty crane]

Polaris archive for JP/CN (Prob not us) is not this patch, but the next.

[reef basin]

I had 18.5k fleet tech and max BB hit, max CV RLD. Can't believe you guys just undid actual years of progress on my account

[minor robin]

It's not intended

[bold pier]

Will they fix dynamic skins one day? Special touch, rub etc. still not working for those, unless you turn off the animation.

[potent zealot]

Will it be nice if we have a sort filter in dock for 120s Only

If there a filter for Not Max Lvl, it would be great for the opposite filter

[copper nest]

there's nothing to fix (stated multiple times), it's not l2d, it's just one looped fancy animation

[bold pier]

I know they don't have a special animation on these. The thing is that they don't use the voice lines they are supposed to use at for example special touch. The detail page of the respective ship states the lines are there. I would find it odd if that's intended too

[copper nest]

apparently it is

I mean it was reported since they became a thing and it's still not fixed so.. I assume it's fine xd

[hearty crane]

It was listed "not a bug" after people reported it after NJ release

[wintry haven]

would be nice if we can remove dl'ed voice withour clearing game data, especially starter voice
and ability to download just individual ship
i have little storage space...

[delicate lance]

It's a bug

[cinder stirrup]

[copper nest]

okay who changed how seahornets look and why so ugly
they just look weird

[slender loom]

This is what I get right now when trying to log in.

[delicate lance]

Known bug

[lament walrus]

Same error for me.

[wintry fable]

yea i have the same problem

but it looks like the notice it

#bug-reports message

[ruby robin]

Just a little suggestion, could we get t4 skillbooks retooled to be 10h for a lesser quantity of xp, I feel like 12h is a little bit unwieldy and doesn't sync up as well with daily 10h comms either

[fossil leaf]

Can we please do away with this unknown ship drop gimmick?
Frankly its an obstructive feature.

[quasi solar]

Does anyone know where I can buy the battlepass as I can see Yorktown skin for event but I cannot seem to find a place to buy it?

[sinful cloud]

Should be available tomorrow

[past ridge]

Is Azuma oath skin only having 3 new lines a bug?

[hearty crane]

Why is everyone obsessed with Azuma right now, asking everywhere. But no, she has no oath skin lines... she never had, why are people now asking?

[past ridge]

No, she got new lines, but there are only 3 of them

Pretty disappointing for a DR ship imo.

[eternal bronze]

gotta say that the EXP changes makes leveling up ships much more enjoyable now good work

[velvet adder]

Yuudachi retro skin available

[hearty crane]

Those never appear till retro'd enough to unlock

[limber jolt]

Can we have a plate exchange option? Like purple ones to blue ones and blue ones to white ones? With this new daily mission I think we'll eventually run out of white plates

[paper idol]

Why nerf the oil when retire

You can nerf the lvl scaling

Nerfing end game and hardcore player is not a good idea

[hearty crane]

Its actually buffed for lvl 1 retires, and cause people are exploiting. Those will be fixed (like xp farming through time-out of old)

[delicate lance]

To prevent player from abusing it any further

[nova girder]

The daily money from new raids is well... mildly put not that much better. Hope this is not the one answer to lack of gold.

[fleet salmon]

They could just make it so that the reward from retiring doesn't scale with ship level. That way xp packs can't be exploited and farms remain mostly the same.

[cursive horizon]

I sure hope Noshiro's oath gown gets some unique dialogue at some point.

[hearty crane]

Isn't that... exactly what they are doing?

[turbid glen]

It would be nice to get oil from retiring still, it makes farming a lot more of a pain without that offset you get from commons

[formal oyster]

Not only is the change unwelcomed, I heard JP got compensation for it, what about the others ?

[slate anvil]

200 gems, 50k coins and 6k oil compensation.

[stoic kettle]

the entire xp book mechanic is extremely soulless, literally dont have to play anymore to get 125s

[formal oyster]

Feels like a way to sell grind for lazy folks, at the detriment of players who farm. That, and the battle pass... has the entire team in charge of game monetization been replaced or something ?

And nevermind the compensation, announcement just came in. At least there's that.

[paper sparrow]

The exp book caps at Lv. 100 so you still have to manually farm to 125

[stoic kettle]

or like a guildy put it

[kindred vessel]

No they don’t

I literally XP booked Ark Royal to 125 today

[fleet salmon]

They are removing the oil reward though. My point is that the reward should be always like it's from a level one ship today, so some gold and 3-4 oil.

[stoic kettle]

yeah what storm said, its literally not true

[paper sparrow]

Ah okay, I was testing them on Bulins. I probably have to limit break them first. Haven't tried on Lv. 100s yet.

[formal oyster]

I hope they won't copy too much of it, I hate this in... that game. Being able to level up one character every 3 months

[stoic kettle]

and i'm sitting on nearly 800 xp books now, which translates to 2400000 ship xp without ever using them

🚮

why even play just sit menu, collect xp books and 1-125 with a click of a button

and we havent even gotten the purple xp books yet, i think it is safe to assume they give more xp

[velvet adder]

1 gold plate? from a plate daily? i get more from the sub daily

seriously?

i feel like u guys missed a 0 after that 1

[past steeple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/801279436367986699/893176002623197214/Aqm8FZk.png

[formal oyster]

That's 9 per week. You know how stingy they are with giving gold plates. Besides 90 per week for this daily alone would be busted, let's be fair.

[past steeple]

if you want to scale the scrapping rewards back so it's fair and just with the new lecture hall, i'm cool with that, but taking away the oil from the scrapping completely even if the ship is at lvl1????

[formal oyster]

I guess Xp books were a mistake

[past steeple]

it's a dealbreaker in a lot of cases for farming

[cloud sable]

the oil that you get back from it is pretty negligible outside of 2-1 farming

[stoic kettle]

we get it Nerezza, you dont care about 2-1

[past steeple]

you still get something, and you know as well as I do where i'm gonna go with this

[formal oyster]

[turbid glen]

Even a little bit helps a lot over scale

[formal oyster]

It was still a good amount of oil in the long run. Way better than nothing. I'd gladly pay the 200 gems of the compensation to get the old retirement back.

[turbid glen]

it helped me with fox mines back in the day

[past steeple]

200 gems? i'd be willing to scrap the new lecture hall system for that and the 200 gems

cause actually getting your ships to 120 actually meant something

[cloud sable]

I dont really think this change was needed, but i dont see why its that big a deal, for the majority of people, its still a very small amount of oil, it wont ever make or break a grind
like yea, long term, over a days you might get an extra run or two, but thats not really a big deal imo

[past steeple]

to some people it's worth 3000 oil per day

[stoic kettle]

I dont really think this change was needed
this patched summed up in one sentence

[past steeple]

yep, it's unnecessary in my eyes

[fluid grotto]

if they dont change it it's gonna be super easy to abuse white bbs farm

[cloud sable]

its unnessary if they didnt change lecture hall, but i think the lecture hall change was still good in the long run, since it makes leveling ships alot easier for both new players and vets alike

[formal oyster]

Not only unnecessary, it takes something away to replace it with something I don't really want to use anyway, personally.
If they're so concerned about xp books being abused, then just make a special rule or something between them and the retirement. Don't just kick the ant's nest like that because of a poor oversight.

[velvet adder]

i always forget to use the lecture hall, now i wont since its a claim thing i can just click it when i do oil

[stoic kettle]

leveling ships is the entire content of this game

tho

[velvet adder]

im really happy with the lecture hall change

[fluid grotto]

game is going to baby mode route now

[stoic kettle]

^

[past steeple]

when you literally give people free max level ships then what's the point in playing the game in the first place?

[velvet adder]

oh no it isnt dark souws difficuwty anymowe

[fluid grotto]

oh noeee

[stoic kettle]

this

[cloud sable]

the game has been going in the direction of making catching up easier and letting it be played more casually for a while, and this is just another step in it

[fluid grotto]

yeah that what i said

[static stag]

coper bad player trying to argue its good for game in the long run

[stoic kettle]

not even the chat event frames are content anymore now... literally click three button on day one and receive ur chat frame

no dorm food needed, no oil neeeded

[fluid grotto]

but yeah the lvl cap increase is so wtv cus my every 120 is pretty much 125 alr

[cloud sable]

i mean by this metric do you think pr catchup should be removed too?

[past steeple]

do you want me to be frank with it?

[formal oyster]

Pr catchup didn't take anything away though.

[cloud sable]

sure, its a feedback channel

[stoic kettle]

[velvet adder]

veterans will always complain about newbies being able to catch up because it strikes down their superiority

[past steeple]

then yes, i do think it should be removed, sure it's not as big of an outrage as actually giving people free lvl125s it's still 1 ship or something you get to dev30 for free

[velvet adder]

its a single player game, why would anyone care what other people get imo

[static stag]

trueeeee look how succesful WOW is with this mindset now

really worth

[stoic kettle]

newbies being able to catch up
what?
PR catchup literally did nothing for veterans, while xp books do.... what is this goalpost

[velvet adder]

it gave data cores to buy the rainbow gear

[stoic kettle]

wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

literally the same thing as a instant llvl 125

[past steeple]

you tell me what sort of % newbies spend on the game then? is it really worth pissing off the whales, you tell me who will keep spending to keep the lights on

[cloud sable]

PR catchup helped for alot of veterans lol. not everyone has played since PR1 and has all their PR ships fs5, or even dev30. and having protocore to spend is very useful as well

[fluid grotto]

which they dont need at this point

[formal oyster]

Did you see anyone complain about PR catchup back when it was introduced ? You had people being disappointed that it was only PR1 maybe, but never saw anyone complain about something because it made the game easier for newbies.
Of course it's a good thing, especially with so much to catch-up, but still there are good and bad ways to go about it.

[velvet adder]

well thats the price of playing day 1, its early adopters

[bronze elk]

tbh the majority of feedback I see here is moreso hinging towards newbies coping that they can't catch up with vets, and that's mostly because they don't actually... play the game?

[past steeple]

actually play the game then?

[formal oyster]

Besides more than the newbies, it's more a feature for whales here. It takes away the better retirement from actual players who grind the game, in favor of something aimed at lazy players with a big bank account.

[stoic kettle]

[velvet adder]

i dont get how it hinders a whale they can still buy skins, they can still buy oil, they can still buy coins

[past steeple]

i say this again, what is the point in grinding out 120 after 120 when you can literally do it automatically, instantly

[cloud sable]

I have an alt account which i run, and no, its not easy at all to try and catch up with content in the game. Leveling ships, getting enough purins, getting enough cubes, getting PR ships, all take a very long time

[velvet adder]

whales imo, play the game less, if youre a whale why would you play? when you can just buy it?

[formal oyster]

That's... exactly the point I made.

[raw quest]

?

[velvet adder]

you dont need to grind certain resources

but theyre complaining that the game is too easy so whales would quit

[torpid patio]

i would highly appreciate it if we can skip cutscenes even if there are choices

[past steeple]

you obviously never met farming whales have you?

[true maple]

The retirement change was poorly thought out. Just stop it from scaling with level, and you don't have to worry about lecture hall exploits. Taking away the oil completely just feels needlessly punitive towards your most hardcore players

[mighty gyro]

True

[fluid grotto]

not really, i started in new server and catching up with 3y/o server player np, just actually play the game

[velvet adder]

getting pr ships is hard

[past steeple]

this, yes, taking oil away completely just kills anything out of the hardcore player, even the f2p people

[stoic kettle]

this guy gets it

[zealous finch]

[stoic kettle]

lazy design choice

[cloud sable]

Im not sure what you mean by catch up, by catch up, i mean be able to go and do all the content in the game comfortably

[past steeple]

there's a reason why it's hard, do you expect your job to be handed onto you with a silver platter? do you expect your next report to be straight As just because?

[fluid grotto]

yeah, which i do

[cloud sable]

and how long did that take you?

[fluid grotto]

how long is amagi around?

[formal oyster]

Getting prints is hard, or tedious rather. Getting ships is braindead, the hardest thing in it is wait for tasks to unlock.

[teal hatch]

hello im back from my 24h mute

[static stag]

30 000 attack opinion coming through

[velvet adder]

dude its a mobile game that people play in the bathroom im not coming into this expecting to try 500 repeats of a boss fight like dark souls

[fluid grotto]

my account like barely a year

[cloud sable]

its been around for a year and a half

[unreal sage]

The only change that is kinda sus was the XP book/lecture hall revamp. It makes the dorm kinda redundant.

[formal oyster]

What does Dark Soul have anything to do with this. Besides if you do 500 fights to beat a boss, I have bad news for you

[velvet adder]

nor am i expecting a korean level mmo grindfest out of it with needing to play 16 hours a day to "keep up"

[past steeple]

redundant? more like makes it completely obsolete

[hardy kindle]

Little known fact: You can use xp books and dorm at the same time

Surprised me too

[velvet adder]

finally someone with some reason

[past steeple]

let the players who actually want to do that do that, what's hurting you?

[velvet adder]

the fact that youre most likely a minority? ever considered that?

[stoic kettle]

little known fact, why wait an entire year+ for a ship to 1-125 in dorm when you can in 3 clicks

[fluid grotto]

and yeah, im pretty much at same ground as older player pretty much

[velvet adder]

what stops you from playing the game 16 hours a day anyway

[bronze elk]

well if you're constantly trying to "keep up" with people who sacrifice more of their time with stuff like research then that's kinda on you... though this update basically hurts everyone in the end

[hardy kindle]

You say that as if the current surplus of xp books is going to carry on for a long time

[velvet adder]

just dont use the dorm, just dont use the academy

[unreal sage]

But you'll have way too much XP books that dorm would be kinda obsolete at this point.

[past steeple]

have you considered that that fact is on you and not any of us?

[velvet adder]

then its a lot harder and grindier for you

[bronze elk]

basically whale more or play less has never been more stark than with this update

[formal oyster]

Except the folks who will buy Xp books.

[fluid grotto]

true

[bronze elk]

personally im not too fussed about it, but kinda takes away any sense of gratification at maxing stuff or going for boards

so less time spent on AL i guess?

[past steeple]

i wonder what the people who bother going for FP are thinking now?

[stoic kettle]

^

[formal oyster]

And seeing at how the game is already easy and not competitive, if you take the grind away from hardcore players, well...

[past steeple]

i wonder the people who actually top charts every single event is thinking now?

[stoic kettle]

imagine grinding the game lmao, just sit in menu and collect books

free fleet tech FP

[past steeple]

that's no game man, who would want to do that?

it's handing shit over to you on a silver platter

[stoic kettle]

[formal oyster]

Anyway, I don't think the Xp book and Lecture Hall thing is a bad update, I just think it should have been more thought out, to benefit both casual/whales and hardcore players, not one over the other.

[bronze elk]

pretty much ^

[cloud sable]

I mean one thing yall seem to be overlooking is that the actual rate at which you get exp books isnt very high, we just have alot rn from the 1-time rewards
over time you wont get enough to supplant everything
and exp books dont just magically appear, it consumes proficency from lecture hall, that you only get via using lvl 100+ ships in battle

[hardy kindle]

okay, now i gotta know
How are y'all getting so many xp books when an event ain't handing it out in loads?

[velvet adder]

just do like pokemon and nuzlocke for a harder and more gratifying experience

[raw quest]

[mighty gyro]

[velvet adder]

these things are kinda optional, nobody is forcing you to click the books and use them

[fluid grotto]

actually did this with no tech box run

[gusty rapids]

AL has a history of nerfing thing that are easily abusable by macros and won't affect people who just play normally

[hardy kindle]

Are y'all just forgetting that there's an event giving it out for free? Or do you think the event will rerun daily?

[formal oyster]

💰 , just wait for it

[gusty rapids]

they did it when they changed timeout exp

it doesn't affect anyone who plays the game normally but it does affect people who break the rules and macro it

[fluid grotto]

macro bad

[gusty rapids]

I don't see how removing the 3 oil from scrapping a common is any different

it doesn't affect anyone who just plays the game

[true maple]

That is far from true. I know people who legit run 2-1 all day, with no macro

[formal oyster]

Because it wasn't breaking any rule, the devs are the ones that fucked it up themselves with the introduction of books. And they punish the players to correct it.

[true maple]

This literally kills their chosen form of gameplay

[sinful cloud]

They punished the auto macros but then made an auto system

[past steeple]

people who farm 2-1 daily don't do it with macros, we don't exploit

[bronze elk]

bomb, does playing the game normally entail 3:3 12-4 2 hours a day

[gusty rapids]

people who run 2-1 all day with no macro are probably lying about "no macro" because it's against the rules to admit it

[true maple]

Imagine trying to decide what is normal for other people. What are you, the CCP?

[past steeple]

you're talking to someone who just does it without macros

[worldly linden]

Dunno if anything gets heard from here but please add back oil for lv 1 ship retire at the very least. Removing 16% to 30% playtime (oil refund) for 1:1 players that don't even farm 2-1 sucks a lot.

[past steeple]

you can believe it or not, that's up to you

[bronze elk]

i'd say there's no need to take such an extreme stance for it, lack of oil is lack of oil at the end of the day

[fluid grotto]

people paly the game, must be macro

[formal oyster]

I don't even know how to use a Macro

[paper idol]

Try watching Kimocheese stream

[bronze elk]

just swiping isn't that hard, but why wouldn't a player who bothers to swipe try to maximise existing sources of income in the first place? (not considering players who see AL as a skin/bache simulator)

[past steeple]

this

[velvet adder]

bache simulator i like the sound of that

[gusty rapids]

Too bad, I guess you guys might need to find another way to waste time

[past steeple]

welp, at the end of the day, they probably won't read it anyway

[fluid grotto]

whoa dont judge people just because they play the game

[bronze elk]

i wouldn't waste it any other way outside of being in this channel

[past steeple]

who's gonna be your testers if we're not the ones playing the game?

[gusty rapids]

?

what?

[worldly linden]

Youre replying to a wiki contributor not a mod or staff...

[naive cobalt]

This discussion is just personal insults at this point
Move it elsewhere

[bronze elk]

well i've said all that i wanted to say and its pretty clear that no oil = bad in the long run

hopefully devs can just find some way to counterbalance it somewhat

[worldly linden]

But continuing from this:

Dunno if anything gets heard from here but please add back oil for lv 1 ship retire at the very least. Removing 16% to 30% playtime (oil refund) for 1:1 players that don't even farm 2-1 sucks a lot.
Net costs more oil per event and makes affection a lot worse since exp is easier to get now but affection isnt.

[past steeple]

welp, i wanted a nice civil discussion about why the update was a bad idea and we had some people decide to dick about and swing their dick around

[gusty rapids]

The fact of the matter is, the 2-1 farm is easily abusable by macros, and the devs have a history of shutting down parts of the game that can be abusable by macros. They did it with timeout farming too, by nerfing exp to 10% from 50%. People complained, but they didn't back off on that cause the devs really don't like when people macro.

[unreal sage]

They're increasing the oil that they're giving during maintainance as a compensation. But my problem with that is its eating on my coin reserves on mail.

[fluid grotto]

doesn't mean everyone is macroing

[mighty gyro]

Lol. Macro when auto battle exist 😂

[raw quest]

^

[fluid grotto]

it's literally 1 button/3 mnts

[past steeple]

6k oil can be done in gained 2 days by burning white ships if you're determined enough

[gusty rapids]

Even if you insist that you, personally, are one of the good AL players who spends 8 hours a day in 2-1 without macros, there's plenty of people who don't, and the devs don't really appreciate that.

[paper idol]

Are you using macro and projecting it to everyone else

:susge:

[gusty rapids]

No, I don't waste my time in 2-1

[zealous finch]

We can tell.

[true maple]

Who are you to say what the Devs appreciate. Thinking macro-farming is of high importance in what is essentially a single player game????

[gusty rapids]

I'm reporting precedent. I'm not saying that as a dev, I'm saying that they don't like cheaters and have been very clear about that in the past.

[stoic kettle]

yeah pretty wild to assume everyone but a few individuals are cheating/marcoing

[true maple]

Exactly

[fluid grotto]

how you know devs is not appreciate it

[zealous finch]

devs dont appreciate people breaking rules? bold.

[fluid grotto]

assumme much

[stoic kettle]

play alot = automatically must be a macro user = better punich 99% of the good apples

[past steeple]

hmm a lvl9 or a lvl89 i guess i see you don't actually play then

[stoic kettle]

good take

[weak pilot]

[bronze elk]

how did a discussion about how bad the new update is even turn into one about game ethics in the first place? its pretty evident that we're not going to change his mind so rather we just move on

[gusty rapids]

?

[weak pilot]

can the discussion be more civil

[sinful cloud]

Just gonna say that im gonna fool until tomorrow to see the BP to get disappointed
For me the game is dying, keep gating everything and dont improve the problems from long ago

This update was good on paper, bad in pratice

• ppl wanted higher lvl dailies for more coins not exp
• lecture hall still needs you to sell a liver to upgrade when you still need to waste oil
  Guess I gotta ty you guys for making me not waste my money on the pass and save it for a pc to play smth good

[true maple]

Making blanket statements for other people is kinda pepega. Making blanket statements about an entire section of the playerbase is beyond wrong

[past steeple]

i searched your account up

[frail plank]

Lmao?

[gusty rapids]

?

[fluid grotto]

whats going on lol

[mighty gyro]

Oh no

[fluid grotto]

can we back discussing the other stuff about new update

[teal hatch]

discussion summary:

[bronze elk]

on the compensation, it'd be nice if we actually got more oil to make up for the lack of retirement income (maybe 10k instead of 1k?)

[teal hatch]

[bronze elk]

thats all from me thank you

[raw quest]

good game, i can 125 the next UR when it comes out in day 1
so good omg omg omg omg