game-feedback

[copper bolt]

fate sims usually don't do too much for a ship anyway

ik it sounds like I'm just defending the devs but im playing devil's advocate here.

also removing the face research = more likely to get other ships' face researches

im pretty sure lots of people want to develop multiple ships if not all of them from each PR series

[sinful cloud]

That being my problem all along
Like if someone as a job or smth that only allows you to play 1-2 days besides just checking it in the morning its gonna take months to get the ship in full potential, at that point its not much different from PRs which as you said are much worse

[bold python]

Are we allowed to write skins themes suggestions here?

[copper bolt]

this is what the bot says

so no

[winter hearth]

I guess yes. I personally need only 2 ships from PR4 and a bit of equipment. So I want to close it as fast as possible and if only one way to get 165 BPs on PR is H and general, than it's really bad for me. I cannot get 165 for my wished ship so fast. I mean, D researches give a lot of BPs I could have this 165 BPs in 2 weeks. Now I need to wait maybe 2 months which I could spend for equipment researches on PR2 or Pr3

[bold python]

I see, thx.

[copper bolt]

np

[sinful cloud]

Without the cap ppl could just get it running quickly in those days

[copper bolt]

I totally get your point yeah. if u can only play for 1-2 days at a time, it would take 6-7 full days of 30k xp to max 1 skill

[winter hearth]

Than I suggest to do a button which allows to get BPs for FS which is not here for people like me. And if you want to develop every ship just turn it off

[copper bolt]

but that's why the majority of the xp is just by doing your dailies in opsi and stuff

the first 10k xp for the skills is ultra low effort

u get 1000s pf skill xp just by putting that meta ship inside your mob fleet in opsi and doing dailies

which dont take too much time. gacha games are just designed this way

they encourage you to log in every day rather than being able to wipe out all the content in 1 day

[sinful cloud]

Thing is that you would still have the stuff to encourage to log in without time gating so much stuff

Honestly I'll just see how it goes with new content in the future, if it continues this way will most likely just drop it
Good game but getting too much bananad imo

[copper bolt]

yes it would be nice to have such a feature but it would add more clutter to the UI right? There are already a lot of different systems inside of AL and adding complexity makes it harder for new players to understand/make choices. Also it probably does not affect a lot of people since it already takes a very long time to get to dev 30. Why focus on getting BPs for fate sim when other ships may not be developed yet?

[copper bolt]

yeah i get you, but I think there are more players that log in just for a little bit each day rather than try to blow it all in 1-2 days

playing 1 hr for 1 day vs 1 hr across a week, the latter would definitely get more progress, that's just how AL is designed

oh yeah, don't forget this channel is more discussion, you actually need to !submit in #bot-spam to actually give the game feedback/suggestion

if that's something you want to do

[winter hearth]

I don't need anyone except that 2 wished. Even Equipment is not really worth for me because I play mainly BBs. So I would get minimal needed equipment and 2 ships with dev 30 + 165 BPs and leave to not to get back. Therefore I don't like, that I have no possibility to get 165 BPs fast

[copper bolt]

I understand your point, but don't forget what you want is probably not representative of the whole playerbase as a whole right? The devs will probably work to implement a feature that benefits more players than a select few.

[winter hearth]

And also as person who wants to develop every ship I don't like this. I mean, ok, I got all 3 to dev 30, but what to do as next? Wait until PR5 and go back to PR4 to do FS for them? There's also no possibility for those people to get FS immediately

[sinful cloud]

Yeah ik but seen stuff similar there and it was "fixed" by putting another time gated thing to help or didnt go after the main problem so better to stay this way than to make it worse

[copper bolt]

ic fair enough

[copper bolt]

there is but more slowly obviously with general researches

cube missions are how u get most of your prints anyway right? Like u said u do a lot of H missions. H missions do not have face researches but give them out randomly right?

[winter hearth]

Yes H missions give enough BPs but there's a problem. They give no Gear. While D researches do. So even if I had enough cubes for H researches I still lose time because I need some equipment

[pulsar flax]

9-10 wave mob fleets , like strong bosses are good but we wanna see strong mob fleets

[copper bolt]

that's the trade off right? PR has always been a super long grind. I've played for 3 years and I've only finished PR1 recently thanks to the gold system

[sinful cloud]

Damn

[copper bolt]

thankfully it's a lot better and faster now since PR4 with the research updates

[winter hearth]

And D researches are giving BPs better. I mean, sometimes you can roll 4 H researches at the line and get no needed BP. D researches are better on this way

[copper bolt]

yes but it's all RNG right? I agree PR takes an incredibly long time, but at the same time, it's probably designed that way and the devs probably realised this by improving the research system + catchup mechanics

frustrating it takes so long but that's how it is. I wish it was faster also but what does that mean for all the veteran players that grinded so hard? was their grind worth it?

all those resources they spent, just for someone new to be like "haha, prints go brr"

would kind of feel like a slap in the face no?

[winter hearth]

I felt this with NJ which is broken and stronger than FDG which needs even now at least 6 month to develop

[copper bolt]

mhm but how many people do u think actually have a dev 30 FdG?

[winter hearth]

Not really a lot because 150 BPs were often not enough for dev 30

[copper bolt]

i've played since launch and before PR1. I don't have a dev 30 FdG

and im a pretty casual player

ofc im just an individual but im pretty sure a lot of others are in the same situation

[winter hearth]

Imo it would be better if BPs for Azuma and FDG would be same, so people could have 300 BPs on ship they want

[copper bolt]

my FdG is currently dev 28 thanks to the catchup system

[sinful cloud]

150 prints barely doesnt get you to dev18 from 0 then its only skyrocketing from there

[copper bolt]

150 prints for each DR is already really generous

PR1 catchup was only 30 prints for each ship and that's it

[winter hearth]

The same situation. And now I cannot run to PR2 because I need 2 months to get 165 BPs

[sinful cloud]

Yeah its nice nontheless

[copper bolt]

would u have preferred something like that?

[sinful cloud]

PR1 also has the 300 prints thing tho

[copper bolt]

yes PR is really really bad for new players

in order to catchup in any meaningful time frame

but it's getting better but probably not enough as you said

[copper bolt]

really? when

they only had the 30 BP things

[sinful cloud]

Honestly the problem with PR isnt the number of prints but the consistency of getting them

[sinful cloud]

On the same thing has the PR2 catchup, used mine on Roon long ago

[copper bolt]

they did improve this with face researches. At least u get increased numbers for that face, but the tradeoff is u get less BPs overall from them

[copper bolt]

oh yeah i forgot about that mb.

[winter hearth]

With 300 DR BPs from catch-up you get only a half of DR and 213 BPs are still a bit amount. Maybe for 4 month D+H researches. So I would say it's ok if we had 300 BPs for all DR like it's with PR

[copper bolt]

u expect them to give u a free dev 30 FdG? Now that really is a massive slap in the face to all vets

[winter hearth]

They gave NJ. Really.

Is that not a big slap to all veterans?

[copper bolt]

no because all veterans can also have NJ AND FdG

and most dont even have dev 30 FdG as I said earlier

[sinful cloud]

Yeah got a bit better but either use coins for PR1 that already are a resource in demand all the time or rng with time gating on top, doubt new players will ever catch up tbh

[copper bolt]

more do now thanks to catchup but i dont think a lot have dev 30 fdg even now

u do know how hard it was to get a dev 30 DR ship before they changed face researches right?

[winter hearth]

Because 150 BPs are really less for DR. 200 at least would be enough

[winter hearth]

12+ Month in the best case

[copper bolt]

150 BPs is 30% of the total BPs

[sinful cloud]

As much as I hate the time gating on the META ships, would take a system like that over the resource sink of PR anytime

[copper bolt]

exactly

[copper bolt]

yep I agree. It really isn't that bad if u play a little bit of opsi every day

[sinful cloud]

Guess so, pisses me off a bit but when compared to PR its heaven

[copper bolt]

yep

[copper bolt]

more would always be nice but it just feels wayy too greedy to ask for more when the devs have already been this generous. I would love to get more free prints and stuff since I haven't finished PR2 yet either but being too generous would piss off all the veteran players which is something the devs probably do not want to do

[winter hearth]

I can agree. I would get it if they won't change anything. Everything I want to have to be changed is the thing with D researches for PR4

[sinful cloud]

The way they made it, its a double edge sword
Unless they changed the system for only new seasons they're gonna please one while pissing the other

[copper bolt]

isn't it better to just focus on other ships you have not completed yet whilst waiting for PR4? You will probably get a lot of prints anyway developing other ships and getting enough for a fate sim

also if u are only doing a select few, u can always save your general PR BPs from events to do a fast fate sim right? 30/event. Only takes 5-6 major events which is only like 5 months

[copper bolt]

true, but in order to keep things special, i think the endgame players that do have a dev 30 FdG can just focus on newer researches right

[winter hearth]

🤔 For only one ship it's ok. But not for 3. But maybe this is the only one way for me

[copper bolt]

if after 2-3 years they help people get a dev 30 FdG i dont think people will be too angry

just like in PR1, everyone can get dev 30 FS5 for "free"

[fluid grotto]

pls make research easier

[winter hearth]

They are already easy. It's possible to have dev 30 PR for 2 months

[sinful cloud]

Thats my plan at least, seems the logical thing to do

[copper bolt]

only if u are a hardcore player 😔

[copper bolt]

yep, as long as they feel "exclusive" for a dev 30 FdG for long enough, catchup for everyone a long time down the road is fair

that's why events usually take a long time to rerun, to make the ships feel exclusive even though they will be added permanently later

like if u were unable to dev 30 an FdG for 2-3 years, that's on you rather than the game right

[sinful cloud]

Have to say that Polter is right on the NJ thing, UR/DR should have stayed a rare thing outside of gacha
NJ just crapped on all of those that spent months getting a Dev30 FdG and still dont see the point of getting Haku when Shitano is better... really poor decision imo

[fluid grotto]

idk man, you can put both on same fleet, maybe

[copper bolt]

^

what's better than having 1 broken ship in the fleet?

Having 2

[fluid grotto]

we cracked the problem

[sinful cloud]

Thats not the point like you said, giving a free Dev 30 FdG would piss the veterans, they pratically did that with NJ and she's even better

[fluid grotto]

why would they pissed, they have 2 strong bb now

[copper bolt]

mhm but FdG =/= NJ

just because u have NJ, doesnt mean u have dev 30 FdG

sure they are both super strong

but u have 2? They only have 1

[fluid grotto]

fdg is not invalided just because nj stronger

[copper bolt]

u still have your exclusive Dev 30 FdG

who is miles ahead of every other BB with NJ

power creep? Yes
exclusivity lost? No

that's what i was trying to get at with pissing off veterans

[fluid grotto]

the only people that pissed is kms simps

[sinful cloud]

So you can basically give a free DR as long as it isnt a DR? Seems pretty crappy logic

[fluid grotto]

yeah ofc, it's an event ship

[copper bolt]

event limited vs permanent

it's like we said before, sure u have 1 OP BB

[sinful cloud]

And again Shitano powercrept a new DR already, thought that at least the PR system was supposed to be hard cause the ships were the strongest

[copper bolt]

but now u have 2

shinano and haku do different things even though they are both very strong

[sinful cloud]

And by the time you finish the perma grind, the event is back

[copper bolt]

I don't think u can just replace shinano with haku

[fluid grotto]

where you get idea that PR = strongest

[winter hearth]

What is the sense to spend 12+ Month for FDG if you can get NJ for 2 cubes. Cool

[copper bolt]

shinano hasn't rerun yet, no one knows when either

[winter hearth]

I think this gives a bigger slap than free 300 BPs for everyone

[copper bolt]

it's more the exclusivity of owning a dev 30 DR because it's so hard to obtain

[sinful cloud]

Idk maybe when FdG and Azuma were the strongest until recently for over 2 years... just a small hint

[copper bolt]

NJ does not fill the same role as FdG. Same as Shinano to Haku

They are all super stronk but they do not fill the same roles even if they are similar

[winter hearth]

FDG is DMG, NJ is broken DMG

[sinful cloud]

Exactly the point

[copper bolt]

it's been 2 years. I think a little bit of power creep is okay

[winter hearth]

Even FDG is broken. But this is balanced with the hard way to receive

[fluid grotto]

exactly, powercrept bound to happen

[slate monolith]

And heaven forbid you combine the two in one fleet

[winter hearth]

No. But I want to have FDG for 2 cubes too.

[sinful cloud]

I do agree that it was bound to happen but should have been with a ship that required effort not slapping the hard work of others

[bronze elk]

Why pick and choose when.... its so easy to level things to 120 in the first place? Can't really understand the argument here. Single player game btw

[fluid grotto]

kms simp malding cus fdg get powercrept pretty much

[copper bolt]

we can keep going in circles here but there are arguments for and against more generous amounts of BPs for catchup and just better researches in general

it's not a clear cut "We must have more BPs"

[slate monolith]

Problem is here is one is two cubes, the other is DR research and the super rare Rainbow Blueprint drops that barely happen aside from major events

[winter hearth]

Image the situation. U spent 12+ Months for DR. And the next day you get NJ for 2 cubes which is even stronger in some situations. Of course you will feel a good slap against your face

[sinful cloud]

[fluid grotto]

you can use both, hello

[copper bolt]

yes, it's not like everyone has amazing RNG and can build a UR in their first build

[sinful cloud]

You can also give both for 2 cubes yet they dont, hello

[copper bolt]

what's the point of the research system then? What's the point in making it event limited then?

[fluid grotto]

dev 30 fddg for 2 cubes pls dev

[slate monolith]

Actually it's 10 Cubes for a DR I believe

[winter hearth]

What's the point of giving FDG for 2 cubes

[slate monolith]

5 for a PR

[sinful cloud]

At least they realized that its good to put Spoot's sword in the shop else you would have a BB thats time gated by event too and have to pay on top of that to retro and still be worse
Thank fuck they didnt completely banana that aswell

[fluid grotto]

one is pr and another is event, ofcourse the effort required is different, having nj with 2 cubes doesnt change the values you get from fdg whatsoever

[slate monolith]

Same goes for Sandy as well too

[sinful cloud]

Well yeah but still dont have a free DR CL... yet

Spoot was a better comparison cause NJ

[winter hearth]

It changes. What the sense to get FDG if you have NJ? Extra 400K DMG? For what?

[copper bolt]

because NJ is not FdG? They are both very strong but their skills aren't exactly the same

[fluid grotto]

nj is not fdg

[sinful cloud]

You know at this point idk if the problem was giving a free DR or cause the PR system is absolute garbage

[copper bolt]

the problem is the current research system is really bad for new players, but there has to be a balance between how many catchup BPs u give and pissing off veterans of the game

it's better for the devs to give too few than too many imo. New players probably arent gonna go anywhere, u dont want to lose long time players either

[bronze elk]

Expecting new players to catch up AL is generous but lets be real here folks

[fluid grotto]

[copper bolt]

yup

[fluid grotto]

well at least they still can enjoy end game with all the powercrept

[bronze elk]

In any case, opinions may differ but i personally prefer having more choices on what to use especially given the already low amount of backliners compared to vg's in the game. Anyone playing long enough would have run out of backliners to max about now

[sinful cloud]

The dumbest part is that they could have made the PR system interesting and keep it hard with an already existing part of it but had to make an awful continuation cause yes

[copper bolt]

the !submit command exists too if u actually want to put the suggestion through

just discussing it here isn't going to change anything

[sinful cloud]

Literally extending the unlocking tasks instead of this whole thing and creating the gear lab earlier would be less complains, more interesting and fewer trouble in the future

[fluid grotto]

yeah send them ur brilliant game changing plan

[sinful cloud]

Ppl like to suffer aparently, tried to suggest it but was not liked... lots of ms i guess

[winter hearth]

Give quests live with META for which you gain universal BPs for gear and ships?

[cyan iron]

the amount of copium in here is off the chart

[sinful cloud]

More or less yeah

[fluid grotto]

just ask them to able bulin to mlb pr/dr ship

[winter hearth]

🤔

[cyan iron]

cant wait for FDG simp to ask another buff when they release GK

[fluid grotto]

gk?

[hearty thunder]

Yeah one more buff with dn

[copper bolt]

grosse kurfurst, T10 battleship from world of warships

[winter hearth]

All we know that H-44 will be the strongest ship in the game

[winter hearth]

FDG simps = KMS simps, so they will get it I guess

[fluid grotto]

here's some copium, fdg will powercrept nj back with fs5

[hearty crane]

Well I got 170 prints waiting for FdG FS now... thanks catch-up.

[cyan iron]

:pog

[snow rampart]

fs5

[winter hearth]

She does it already with Bismarck 🤔

[fluid grotto]

then yamato release and powercrept all of them

[stoic kettle]

[harsh spear]

And claiming the Sakura throne as she deserves 😂

[fluid grotto]

[sinful cloud]

Then GK FS5 comes

[hearty crane]

And be flat like Nagato... yeeeeees.

[winter hearth]

Everything. But please not like Shinano

[fluid grotto]

in 5 years, sure

[sinful cloud]

Endless cycle of whats even happening

[silver cliff]

The only people upset about NJ are wehraboos angry that their waifu isn't #1 anymore. Real endgame players are happy their fleet can now use both

[sinful cloud]

By the time it happens, current modern ships are considered old so QE will be retrofitted into the CV instead

[fluid grotto]

cv qe is different qe

[hearty thunder]

New players are happy with such op ship as well

[sinful cloud]

Thats the joke

[broken python]

This channel is not for discussion, please move this conversation elsewhere

[fluid grotto]

yeah its just malding ksm simps, im happy having both ship

[hearty crane]

But what if you have BOTH ships... but FdG still with FS5 and MORE power?

[sinful cloud]

[dusty walrus]

never get single rainbow print from research for 2 months how long to get 1 gear 2 years? im near 6 month still 18 print

[velvet adder]

yeah i agree should be added to gear lab, got rainbow prints for main gun and aa and cant even use em

[blazing heart]

Was already typing to ping Silent

[cursive vale]

Nah they were dead long ago

just forgot to check these channels

[blazing heart]

Ye ik just wanted to ping abt the msg cuz it was gone so long ago everywhere else lol

[sullen nacelle]

Is this where i can suggest gane features? Just want to suggest to make the UR gear scraping protection default so no one else makes my mistake

[shut quarry]

Still waiting on Shimakaze.

[spice mango]

Since we have "enhanceable" tab on viewing ships in the dock, how about adding "not on max exp" tab to help picking ships to put in 10hr commission and dorm?
Spending 20seconds, on each ship, to check which level 100/105/110/115 ships that can receive experience isn't fun

[cursive horizon]

Yeah, it's been like what 2 years now and still no Shimakaze. We also have Tone who has been in the game forever, even has artwork, and is still not available.

[void schooner]

No ship at those levels benefits from being in a 10-hour commission, or any commission at all for that matter...

[cursive horizon]

What they need is a "which ship has the least experience and isn't level 1?" Because I've noticed that auto-adding them does not always pick from the bottom.

[spice mango]

Any ships that can receive exp benefit from 10hr comms, or any comms for that matter

[void schooner]

I assume you uncap their levels right away. Never mind me then.

[spice mango]

I would if coins and chips are unlimited resources

[void schooner]

I'm confused then. If ships are at the level cap, they don't receive anymore xp from being in commissions. Or is the 10-hour an exception?

[cursive horizon]

I believe they mean that unless you check the ships one by one, you can't tell which ##5/##0 ship is unlocked.

[spice mango]

Ships on these levels without awakened can't receive exp from commission/dorm/exercise
They can still get exp from stages/opsi

[cursive horizon]

I've run into that problem before myself, because I'll have hit the level cap and not realized it for a while.

[copper bolt]

you can go !submit in #bot-spam to give feedback. This channel is for discussion on feedback ideas mostly

[copper bolt]

yeah as soon as any ship reaches lvl 70 I MLB them or at least LB them so they can keep getting xp from commissions. Same with lvl 100+ Awakenings

[cursive horizon]

Same, unless I'm lacking in Bulins or Coins, or there's an upcoming event I wanna save up for.

[hasty mountain]

The numerical amount of BPs needed to max out a character shown in the PR catch-up selector is good civilization, please add that info to non-catch-up PRs as well

[winter hearth]

Add something like testing room where you can choose every enemy and every ship with every possible gear, so it will be a lot easier to show that something works or not

[acoustic helm]

^

[primal valve]

^

[supple parrot]

Do you guys think it would be a good idea to have a Rainbow E research that guarantees giving a rainbow print like the tenrai? but it would cost t5 tech boxes to make them worth getting

[void schooner]

If it's gonna be like any other E research, it would be a scam research.

[winter hearth]

T5 boxes is to expensive because not a lot of people have it. I think something like 20 T4 boxes is a good price

[scenic flower]

Yeah, I have to use my golden boxes somehow, coz they're useless now, when we have the gear lab.

[native shadow]

more of a question than suggestion but i was wondering how reruns for UR ships will be handled? if there will be any at all?

[velvet adder]

Only devs would know

I don't see a reason why they would not rerun eventually though

[fluid grotto]

dont think theyd handle it any different than any other event

[hearty crane]

There's more good items in t4 boxes than the entire gear lab though.

Shinano should be March 2021... but, why should those reruns be different?

[scenic flower]

I got everything I wanted from them. No use.

[cursive horizon]

Gold boxes are handy when I’m scouring hopefully for something you can’t gear lab, like accessories. If I could make Steam Catapults in Gear Lab, it wouldn’t be as important. Same with lower tier gold gear that would be wasteful to make in gear lab but could be useful for getting a new girl up to speed.

[near grove]

Can we have QE retrofit ?

[raw quest]

Sorry, but keep in mind that we don't take suggestions for new ships, events, retrofits, skins, as well as release order/reruns of old events.

[near grove]

😭

[cursive horizon]

I just submitted the feedback regarding numerical text. However, I realized I should have included something like this which shows text with an outline that makes the letters much easier to see. They have a white border.

Honestly, the Sakura oath cards are the most legible ones in the game.

[crisp reef]

Myb extend a 3rd aniversary event for another couple of days becuz i don't have any of SR ship..and i recently started btw

[faint spoke]

Please re-add the opsi puzzle maps even after opsi completion.

[winter hearth]

[cursive horizon]

Only if they're optional. I don't think many people will want to have them become mandatory in hidden zones or exploration zones they just wanna clear and move on with.

[velvet adder]

Hello.
I can't log in to my account after changing my phone number.
I'm sure that he was tied to twitter, but there are no characters on the servers when logging in.
Before that, I also changed my phones and entered without any problems.

[copper bolt]

#tech-support

[velvet adder]

When will you add the inner core maps in Operation Siren?

[cursive horizon]

[frank lodge]

Can we have future archive updates without those "rate up" ? I feel those one are reason why the release of archive is slow af.

It has been more than 9 months since latest one and there are many dead weeks for more than 1 week to be able to put those update easily if those unnecessary rate up doesn't exist.

I mean, why, though. Why must event that already ran at the same time in all servers for both first run and rerun, but can't release those archive at the same time as other servers and need to delay it for months, ||even years||. That's non sense.

[snow bough]

Yeah. Especially last one

[cursive horizon]

I think it's been brought up before, but what I think would be a nice sound option is being able to mute the gameplay but leave the secretary menu and related sections (dorm, cattery, etc) alone. That way I can grind the game all I want on auto (like I am with C2 for the event) but be cheerfully greeted by my adorable secretary without needing to unmute the game. It would allow me to leave my phone's volume on for incoming calls without needing to hear the music, voices, or sound effects of the events or Operation Siren.

[agile quartz]

I just wanted to say I'm disappointed that Crimson Echoes isn't going to get archived this week, considering that we don't seem to be having any significant content coming up
War Archives happening more frequently would be nice, since that way new players can get older ships that already went through a rerun and we can sync up more with CN/JP

[frank lodge]

IKR.

It just sad. Especially when one of those archive characters potentially will be highlighted in new events (especially when one of them will be used for event frame grind point)

[frank lodge]

Can't agree anymore. It's already more than 9 months after latest archive update. There are many dead week that could be used to put that, but no. They instead want to delay it for years.

Honestly, it suck tho. Imagine, we have events that ran at the same time on all servers for both first run and rerun, but not able to release its archive at the same time and instead delay it for years just because of those unnecessary rate up. Really suck

[velvet adder]

prob cos UR coming so save up

en would mald to hell if they were baited into an archive build before a UR

[frank lodge]

Thus why that rate up isn't really need to be add, so ||dumb|| en player won't build like crazy. just start to update those archive at the same in all server already, dammit. There are no reason to delay it other than just because.

[summer spindle]

Wanted to say something positive. Been playing g the game for close to 2 years now iirc. Have always really loved it and how involved with the community the devs are. Keep up the great work

[agile quartz]

Otherwise there's a thing called self control
They shouldn't treat us like children that can't even keep their coobs stocked up

[frank lodge]

Yup. There are no reason to delay at all other than just because

[winter hearth]

It was said. 1 UR per year

[velvet adder]

last year they said "no more ur after shinano this year" then on the new jersey sheet they deliberately deleted it

[winter hearth]

🤔

Maybe because of possible rerun?

I don't think they will put 2 UR so near to each other. Last time people complained about lost cubes for something like half year

[eternal bronze]

yeah but the problem is that if they do it

there will be a major part of the community complaining

[sinful cloud]

They could put a mini event and the rate up between events, its usually just simple missions or wait 7 days for the reward that we get

[frank lodge]

Define major part.

Thus why we don't need that rate up, so most players would consider to pull more cautiously and not just pull like crazy as if they treat it as event (IT IS NOT).

I realized that most ||dumb|| player treat archive as event just because of those rate up. It is not, smh.

[eternal bronze]

i mean that if they do it people will still complain

"why do you removed rate up in wat archives it was so cool to get my ships right after they got into normal gacha pull"

like that

[fierce sonnet]

people do mass pulls during rate up because the chances of getting those ships is higher

if u just threw em in standard pool hell its gonna be a pain in the ass pulling for one specific ship

[eternal bronze]

althought i would like more they not receiving rate up

[frank lodge]

This. So most players won't really have much complaint about cube broke later.

Thus why, I suggest to just remove rate up and straight send archive ships to normal pool for better archive schedule.

[eternal bronze]

if you feel like most people agree with this

you can send a submit to belfast right away

discussing here won't change anything most of the time

[fierce sonnet]

at the end of the day its the players decision to burn cubes during archive rate up, only thing they can blame is themselves for low cube count

[sinful cloud]

Thats why I would like if they divided them into at least factions in alternative weeks
So Axis ships would appear on a week and Azur ships on another

[narrow sage]

Yet JP or CN players have no real issues with no rate up. At this rate EN won't be seeing another archiving until 2022

[sinful cloud]

too

[fierce sonnet]

they could do rate up archive during a minor event, like perhaps maybe tartu rerun

[hasty mountain]

does the rate up for archived characters even serve a purpose? the player missing the characters most likely are going to be newer players who are still playing catch up with the cube game and can't exactly afford to dump their cubes there, while the player who can comfortably pull is the veteran who already has all those ships anyway and will just spend their excess cubes on research
so who's left benefitting from this? a small number of players who are veteran enough to have hundreds of spare cubes but not veteran enough to have played through both the original and rerun of the event? and maybe the odd veteran player who just straight up skipped some characters from the event?

[frank lodge]

And in 2022, rest servers already update SCB archive while en still stuck on CE if en don't change the way of how they archive.

So, yeah. Remove those rate up for better scheduling

[fierce sonnet]

im definitely one of them started after amagi rerun and my only hope of getting her is thru rate up archive or wishing well which doesnt happen often and when it does its during a terrible time

[inner frost]

Out of curiosity, do we have proof that rate up is the reason we get slower war archives? or is it just being used as the boogeyman as to why we don't get war archives?

[sinful cloud]

Missed Hana on Nagato's event and didnt try to pull for her on the rate up cause tbh with the big pools isnt worth it

That and im stuck on getting the 3 british heavy fuckwits on special pool that shouldnt be there to begin with... just want to finish the sub collection

[frank lodge]

ofc there are no hard proof. But why would en delay archive of events that had been ran on all servers for both first run and rerun if not because of those rate up.

[fierce sonnet]

archive rate up lasts a week so they gotta squeeze that in between events

[narrow sage]

which seems to require a two week break

which is very rare in this day and age

In JP, they can fit in archivings in those 1wk breaks.

[frank lodge]

Heck, they even update CE archive at the same time as pasta rerun.

EN could do that too if not because of those unnecessary rate up. Thus why I suggest to remove those rate up

[narrow sage]

Exactly

[inner frost]

I see, so its the Boogeyman of war archives then. having rate up on war archives shouldn't make a difference really.

[frank lodge]

Not really boogeyman, tho. It is already big implied of why they delay it for no other reason.

I'd like to suggest better archive schedule with that. So it won't have fucked up schedule anymore.

[regal elm]

inb4 CE Rerun actually got archived this week in patch notes

Can we have every PR's Enhancement quote playing when we enhance them in PR page? Kinda odd they have the quote up, but can't be played outside their archive page.
Same thing can be said for Low HP quote for backline fleet ships, never played during actual combat.

[narrow sage]

That may be possible; patch notes aren't out for EN yet (on the CE archiving)

[frank lodge]

hope so.

although should've announced it first in monday/tuesday

[narrow sage]

waiting until the last minute tends to be how the EN twitter does things.

[frank lodge]

Hope so

[fathom dawn]

Can you streamline viewing the exact morale of the ships by showing them in the docks menu rather than having to fumble my way through the formation menu and clicking on a ship to see them?

[frank lodge]

Done. And actually got accepted since I have pretty good reason

[ornate basin]

we dont really deny feedbacks anyways

[frank lodge]

surprising. thanks anyway

[agile quartz]

It would've already been announced if it was
But it wasn't so no war archive for us

[frank lodge]

Yeah. Sad.

Hope they actually consider to just release archive normally without rate up bs. ||btw, my suggestion sent has been on collected, so feel free to check the card (please really read the detail first)||

[regal elm]

The patch notes isn't even up yet
AL EN Twitter tend to release patch notes first before the new features

[fluid grotto]

but i like rate up

[cursive horizon]

I think a lot of people do, they just aren't in here vocalizing their thoughts. Honestly, more than 90% of the player base seems to be pretty quiet regarding games most of the time. I'm aware of that and still make suggestions and criticisms, cause I'm typically thinking of myself (and this extends to other franchises/mediums).

Personally speaking, I'm fine with new content coming slower. It gives me and no doubt others more time to catch up. Despite the progress I've made in the last three years, I'm still behind on stuff like PR and Chapter 13, so I'm in no rush to herald in another chapter nor was I really ready for PR4.

[agile quartz]

Yes but war archives in particular get an announcement before they are added in the patch notes
Like how ISSS war archive was announced a day before the patch notes

That didn't happen with CE, so it's not gonna get archived
At least for now

[nova girder]

I really agree that the rate at which stuff gets on archives is just abysmal, especially when EN is behind for like 8 months on adding Amagi & co.
Likewise, I feel reruns to be so archaic in nature (yeah I get it, more money to squeeze out of people) since they take closer to 2 years to reappear in the game so FOMO is real.

I also can't fathom why Iron Blood has earned such ire from the devs that they're a major nation whose good ships are pretty much all relegated to PR grind and they've had whopping 3 events during 4 years (of which one wasn't even an IB event exclusively). Of course, HMS isn't much better eventwise but they're far from being reliant on PR grind.

E: And of course, I still can't fathom why the "trash" rolls on event builds haven't been changed at least a bit to include something more than your eternal Suffolk-Kent-whatnots

[uncut sleet]

I feel like it's hard to comment on the rate up stuff as a vet since you ethier have the ships already from both og & rerun, or have enough cubes stored that rate up isn't much of an issue.

[frank lodge]

The thing is, archive itself actually not really that hard to be added since It's not new content.

If you said that to new event/rerun, I understand. But delaying archive just because them forced to add those unnecessary rate up is really non sense.

[nova girder]

I'd say Wishing Well diminishes the need for rate up when it comes to archived events.

[frank lodge]

So yeah. I already suggested it myself and my suggestion actually get approved and posted.

Hope yostar really consider it. idk why most of you don't agree with that and instead want to get another archive years later (while other servers already update other 8 new archives years later).

I suggest that because I don't want all of you pull like crazy just because of those rate up, then suffering because you have low cubes

[regal elm]

I think the issue with War Archive isn't the event itself. It's the build. First week in rate up, they're banded on the same build pool. Then after that rate up is over, they're placed on the appropriate build.

[agile quartz]

Well yeah
That's how it's supposed to be

That way you can have a greater chance of getting the ships you immediately want

I don't really see a problem with rate up
Considering that people have this thing called free will
No one's putting a gun to your head and forcing you to pull

[cursive horizon]

I speak from experience that the Wishing Well never worked for me. It always runs alongside an event, so you're forced to choose which of the two pools you wanna build from and that's never good. I remember how upset people were when they released the child-ships the first time alongside another event (think it was Kizuna AI?) and suddenly you had people frantically trying to build from both the event and special pools.

Having rate up outside of an actual event means people have a chance to get the ship they want without being distracted by events or other influences. I've never gotten the ships I want from Wishing Well, but I have gotten them from rate up. Special Build has approximately 70 ships, Heavy has approximately 75 ships, and Light has a whopping 130 ships in it. Removing the rate up puts people needing/wanting those new ships at a significant disadvantage.

In retrospect, this is almost certainly why Wishing Well never worked for me, since the ships I was missing for a long time were all exclusively in the Light Build.

[cursive horizon]

Ah, just remembered not all of those ships are available yet in the EN pools. But even if you were to take up to 10 ships off of each build pool, it's still a huge amount to sift through.

[nova girder]

Wouldn't that be then better solved by better adjusting wishing well to happen during mini-events (when there's no actual building going on) or whatnot? That said, I'd really rather see Special/Heavy pools get dropped to one cube and maybe leave gold cost intact if need be, since building heavy / special is bigger loss with resources for no real reason.

[cursive horizon]

Yeah, everything but Light being 2 cubes has always bothered me. I assume it's cause Light is massive by comparison, but still. The cost makes pulling from anything but Light outside of events feel really expensive. In spite of building from light build nearly every day since I started, it still took me almost 3 years to get all the ships out of there. I think a lot of my Special and Heavy build ships wound up coming from event pools, drops, or my getting lucky when looking for other ships.

I definitely agree that wishing well should be outside of normal event pools.

[sinful cloud]

There's some ppl that Ive never seen upvoting stuff and get downvoted right way... idk whats the point but another reason why I dont like submitting stuff
Guess they want to take EN doesnt read literally

Then again the website is a mess to get to read stuff sometimes

[frank lodge]

Sad, fkin reality.

[frank lodge]

Problem with rate up is, they need to find exactly 3 dead weeks in a row in order to put archive between and we don't really have such schedule chance in this year. If they insist to put rate up, it's either need to wait forever the chance of having 3 dead weeks in a row (chance is as big as UR chance) or delaying new events (that seem they want to avoid at all cost in this year) for weeks/months.

Thus why suggestion about removing rate up should be good solution for better schedule planning without make archive update being very slow and/or sacrifice new events. Even make them able to update archive at the same time in all servers just fine.

[hearty crane]

Or, you know, people actually like the rate-up rather than be forced to rngesus the massive regular pulls. I downvoted it too.

Its not 3 weeks, its 2 weeks. WA rate-ups last a single week.

The U-101 event last was a perfect time, and now. But I agree its probably not done due to the upcoming UR.

[kindred vessel]

War Archives Rate ups are only for a week though, they can do it during any off time between major events

[frank lodge]

As if it's really that easy. We already had so much 2 dead weeks multiple times. Then, why they don't ? Ofc because they want to avoid outrage from ||dumb, impulsive|| players with "reeeee. Cube empty". Thus why it seem 3 dead weeks are their ideal time set.

Not that I don't want rate up, but If I should choose between better archive schedule or 1 archive delayed for years just because of rate up, I'd take better schedule one.

Except if they can release it when they only have 1-2 dead weeks, somehow.

[inner frost]

The more "realistic" reason is that they probably just forget, or something. Just like how we got the coin for the 2nd anniversary during the third anniversary, because they forgot it the first time.

[sinful cloud]

I would ask how do you forget for so many months but Opsi's files still arent translated so yeah

[inner frost]

It's easy to forget something that's an afterthought

[sinful cloud]

I wonder what they are gonna do with u556 skin when Scherzo is archived here or if its gonna be KMS forgotten skin part 2

[frank lodge]

You know, I feel catch up isn't really completed yet if some content can't be released at the same time. Sure, archive looks petty at first, but it's still content update and I don't want to see yet another fucked up schedule just because they insist to put rate up in archive and delay new events for months (that what they always do when there are older content update like archives). We already got that case after all.

so, yeah. seem en will be behind in content updates forever hope you guys can speed up archive update, with removing rate up as one of solution that shouldn't hurt much because you can put the update in more flexible way instead of waiting for chance of more than 2 dead weeks coming to us.

so, good night, and see ya.

[hearty crane]

cough Collection system. cough It took them, what, 2 years?

Scherzo is already archived on JP right? No U-556 skin.

As for actual suggestions, I only yesterday encountered the improved "Anomaly" in OPS. Good work. Now can the other one be improved too where if you bash it you just get the stuff? The whole "SIREN ATTACK!" doesn't do anything, so why is it there? If you guys haven't bothered fixing it till now, just cut it out?

[cursive horizon]

A single week of rate-up is pretty reasonable, I don't know why you would think there needs to be 2 or even 3 weeks for it and War Archival happening, unless I've missed something. Insulting players who spent a lot of their cubes during actual events that run out of cubes is only going to guarantee people won't agree with you. This is still a gacha game, and even during events the rate-ups aren't exactly stellar considering how often people are left with one or two ships that refuse to appear after 2 solid weeks of pulling.

It makes a lot of sense for players who blew more than 400 cubes to be upset if the very next week (or second week) another event drops and they're still struggling to recover cube and coin-wise. That's only gonna burn players out. There was, and I think still is, a lot talk about the EN servers moving too fast back in 2019 and 2020. I certainly saw more than a few comments along the lines of "hopefully when we do catch up things slow down again."

[fluid grotto]

you all forgetting casual whales who want the rate up and actually pay for the server

[sinful cloud]

Then those will still not have a problem with it being in between events with a minor event

I dont understand why they take so much freaking time to archive smth here when they can easily slap them there

[fierce sonnet]

personally i like the rateup and i know im not the only one, because its the only good chance to pull those ships before they enter the extremely diluted perma pools and are practically impossible to fish for specific ships
my suggestion is to do the rateup archive during a minor event (tartu rerun is prime potential for this) since the minor event usually has ships u can get thru farming, perfect time to throw in rateup archive without colliding with a major event banner

that or add archived ships to other shops (specifically merit shop i feel needs an update of purchaseable ships)

[sinful cloud]

[copper bolt]

that's a pretty good idea

[hasty mountain]

here's one

[hearty crane]

Well, they basically already do that, since Scherzo of Iron and Blood has 4 ships added to merit shop

[hasty mountain]

make wishing well a monthly thing, remove dumb restrictions like "only ships added before X date", just let people choose whatever from the pool

[hearty crane]

Moonlit Overture is all in the shop too... we just need to catch up to them

[fierce sonnet]

yea if those changes could be implemented to EN servers sometime that would be great

[cloud sable]

making wishing well a monthly thing is probably too generous tbh
but making it a regular thing (like say every 4 months) i think would be a good idea, since it would still let people get what they want.

that said, the issue is that with wishing well no matter when it happens itll be adjacent to or during another event so youll always have to choose between saving and spending on wishing well

[hasty mountain]

it is not too generous

the game is old enough and character roster is bloated enough that it warrants something like that for newer players to catch up

[hearty crane]

But if we're worried about new players cubes and coin... how will they ever afford monthly wishing well pulls along eventbanners? Unless you basically make it a buff to light pool construction so it can be done inbetween events.

[hasty mountain]

select two ships for the month
do your daily builds there
same thing we all have done before eventually completing the standard pools

except this time you actually have a, you know, realistic chance of actually getting something new

[fierce sonnet]

its optional u cant afford it just skip it

[hearty crane]

Okay reading the suggestion yes, its basically just a light pool buff for 99% of the time.

[hasty mountain]

it is a buff to all pools for players still chasing after certain characters such as the stupid subs from special or the aforementioned archived characters, for everone else that already has full collection it changes nothing unless you think the 10 merits you get from san diego are worth more than the 10 merits you can get from any other SSR?

[frigid swan]

Well if you make wishing well every month people dont have to be worried if they dont get the ships out of it as you can just select them again next month where now you can feel kinda pressured as your never getting that one rare your missing out of light without it

[hasty mountain]

good

let people worry about actual events instead of playing catch with ancient content

[sinful cloud]

Wishing well doesnt help as much as ppl made it to be
Put I19 and I25 on this one and got U81 instead and the 3 regular musketeers that shouldnt be in special

Or any rate up tbh, still trying to get Intrepid when I got 2 Bremethots that doesnt have rate up to begin with and lower rate than usual

[kindred vessel]

another good example: Marblehead is on a 5% rate-up and I only got 2 of her, but 4 Ingrahams

[scenic flower]

[copper bolt]

🎲

[frank lodge]

most players still want the rest and not just 1 week then immediately event after that, right ?. Thus why they want to find 2-3 dead weeks. One week for that, then the rest week(s) is for rest.

Not that I suggest to speed up event, tho since archive is not an event (I always said that since most players here misunderstood about archive itself), so it's not really hurt much if they release it without bait banner and there will be less people complaint about low cubes

[sinful cloud]

Next 2 weeks would be perfect for archive cause its a minigame for 7 days... here comes another boring week

[vast kelp]

This was a good week for an archive tbh since its pretty much dead

[copper bolt]

1 week break with nothing is normal

[frank lodge]

Yeah. It's shame they couldn't even handle content update schedule properly

[sinful cloud]

Its normal but its pretty much no content when theres archives that are left behind

[frank lodge]

Yeah. Should've just put archive when there are dead week. Don't be picky about which dead week would be good and just release archive that left behind already since we're already in more than 4 archive behind

[copper bolt]

don't forget EN is like 1 year younger than JP

and 2 years younger than CN

albeit there has been a lot of catch up to get all servers the same events

[sinful cloud]

And already caught up on everything besides archives

Age wasnt an issue for that

[copper bolt]

because an archive on EN = more dead time for other servers

but im sure the devs can figure out a timetable

but maybe they have too much stuff planned already

[nova girder]

Why would archive for EN mean dead time for other servers? Was it dead time on EN when Amagi event was added on CN? Seriously, it's been like 8 months since that got added

[frank lodge]

Then, why not use dead week provided by them to add archive on en ? This is what I don't understand about staff here

[sinful cloud]

[frank lodge]

Thus why I suggest to either use those many dead weeks to release archive or just remove rate up altogether and put archive in more flexible way (like how rest servers add CE archive at the same time as Pasta rerun)

[agile quartz]

Becuz they want you to wait more
So that when the Archive happens you pull more
And thus screw yourself over in the process

[frank lodge]

If those rate up don't really exist in the first place, most of them won't have such impulse to pull.

[agile quartz]

It's done to make things harder for new players in particular
Considering that the events that are not Archived are IJN and KMS respectively

[copper bolt]

hmm nvm

just checked patch notes

JP got crimson echoes into war archives the same time the italian rerun was happening

[agile quartz]

I told you bruh
No archive this time
Maybe in October

[copper bolt]

but no rate up which is an EN only thing

I think EN gets the rate up because EN had all the events rushed to get all servers on the same schedule

[vast kelp]

I just want them to archive so i can wishing well

[sinful cloud]

Ah so they're trying to screw ppl that will possibly bring more money to the game... 10/10 management

[copper bolt]

it was really tough pulling because the events were always so close together at the start

it was really tough pulling because the events were always so close together at the start

[sinful cloud]

By the time these things come out the ships wont even be worth pulling unless for collection

[agile quartz]

I mean noobs get screwed over but they won't know it
But as a result they make more money

[frank lodge]

Yeah. So future archive don't really need those rate up since rest events were released normally unlike WC and FW (first 2 archive that have rate up)

[copper bolt]

maybe that's why they havent been released yet

they're waiting for another rerun event to add a war archives

[sinful cloud]

Correct if im wrong but the small archived events dont have rate up do they?

[copper bolt]

but the fact still remains we had major events rushed back to back to back to back

[frank lodge]

It's not

[sinful cloud]

AL logic

[frank lodge]

more like, en logic

[agile quartz]

Like imagine your a new player and you are into the axis faction
Then find out most of the good IJN and KMS ships are either late game or in non Archived events like Amagi and Bismarck
So when those events get archived noobs pull hard for those characters in particular
Thus ruining their coob stuck
And having to buy more
Which gives the Devs more money

[copper bolt]

just be happy AL is not a greedy gacha game

[agile quartz]

But it is
In a different way

[sinful cloud]

KMS doesnt even have that excuse tbh only Bisko and U96 isnt archived, Orthant still has to rerun and then the best are PRs

[vast kelp]

They're starting to be one through merch but that's besides the point

[agile quartz]

AK is honestly kinder than AL
In every way except the gacha

[copper bolt]

merch has no impact on the actual gameplay

[orchid lynx]

we really need the missing wa events its dumb we dont have them yet

[copper bolt]

and i'd rather be able to pull all the ships than get more skins

[vast kelp]

Yup i corrected myself, sorry

[sinful cloud]

And Bisko is past her glory days on top of that

[agile quartz]

I mean
Even though I've talked about it here
It's pretty obvious they don't care
All our cries are falling on deaf ears

It'll probably be a while before anything gets war archived

[vast kelp]

I mean it took us a year+ to get NCa bunny skin, will we have to wait another year for a new war archive?

[frank lodge]

If I were you, I won't.

Thus why I give that suggestion for better release schedule

[agile quartz]

Most likely lol

Devs only care when they want to monotize something

Only when it's convenient for them

[nova girder]

Don't really have to be a new player even when the amazing non-PR ships can be count with like 2 fingers lol

[orchid lynx]

on yop of that the release new pr ships where you need main fleet iron blood ships yet they cant be bothered to make bis available

[copper bolt]

ngl, i think more people would want new content rather than a rerun. As good as it is for people who missed out, it's not their priority

[vast kelp]

I think the reason why that card got down voted is because 'it doesn't have the rate up'

[agile quartz]

Noobs can barely get Roon
And she'll take either a lot of time or coin to complete

[copper bolt]

this

i dont think anyone really minds getting war archives, but they dont want to lose the rate up

[frank lodge]

also, since archive is not an event (again), it shouldn't hurt much if it were released in every between dead week or when there are mini event

[copper bolt]

is it greedy on behalf of the players? Probably but what can you do

[vast kelp]

They don't see that you can just archive and have the rate up during the wishing well.

[frank lodge]

[vast kelp]

I'm running out of ships to wishing well if we get one in December

[copper bolt]

wishing well is all ships, war archives is specific ships. There is quite a big difference

i havent had any wishing well ships for the better part of 1.5 years

[vast kelp]

Yup but archive ships are in perma, which are also in WW

[frank lodge]

This. Faster archive release mean bigger chance will be featured in WW

[agile quartz]

Didn't Winter's Crown archive happen while the iris rerun was going on?
It was around that time at least

[copper bolt]

it's not the fact that u can choose them, it's the fact that you can only get specific ships at rate up

[nova girder]

IB experience is pathetic either way without PR grind. Leipzig is about as good as it gets if you don't got Heinrich, hah. And the backline? Even worse.

Really sucks that a major nation is completely shafted and nothing has really changed in that regard.

[sinful cloud]

Well they took almost 2 years to rerun Ashen, the game's gonna be dead already before archive

[copper bolt]

i dont think KMS is really that major considering half the ships are basically paper or subs

[orchid lynx]

How hard can it be to catch up on WA

[frank lodge]

Impossible to catch up unless en change how they release the archive itself

[agile quartz]

Maybe they deserve it

[frank lodge]

Thus why I suggest either speed up and put archive in every dead weeks or just remove rate up altogether for more flexible way of release it

[copper bolt]

either way, reruns and scheduling is not a topic of feedback that's accepted anyway

[nova girder]

KMS is major considering they have the tech tree. It's devs that have pretty much decided to render KMS a designated PR grind faction. HMS has like 4 events themselves, yet they have such amazing ships without taking PR into account.

[agile quartz]

Otherwise I think we'll get the next archive
After JP/CN has their next archive
Since we always seem to be two Archives behind them

[copper bolt]

just keep making noise about archives and it'll happen eventually hopefully

or they have some other plan for war archives

[frank lodge]

*3 rn.

and seem jp going to add more and more while we still stuck at isss till next year if they insist to keep those rate up

[agile quartz]

That just sounds like a passive aggressive way to get banned

[copper bolt]

i mean if it gets memed enough it may happen

looks at NC bunny skin

[sinful cloud]

And Nimi oath

[nova girder]

And considering they DID the unthinkable and had some buffs handed I don't get why they can't buff KMS ships so that the faction doesn't look completely pathetic. The fact that France/Italy/Soviet ships have better rosters with 2 events each just makes it even more sad

[agile quartz]

It took us 3 bloody years to get it
But the time they even think about adding a new archive
Not just AL but every single horny boat game will go extinct

[sinful cloud]

And they even put a bunny theme event before it

[cursive horizon]

I wish this was less "horny boat game" and more "cute boat game with fascinating story and well crated lore/characters." I'm far more interested in story, lore, events, and characterizations/spending time with the girls than I am buying naughty outfits. I do buy cute/wholesome stuff like U-110's outfits, Hornet's pizza time, and Spee's casual clothes.

I realize I'm more or less in the vocal minority on that topic, though.

I can afford to not worry too much about War Archives, missing ships, etc because I've finally gotten them all outside the lost forever Collabs and the chapter 13 girls. That said, I still think about the newer players and how far away this all seemed when I started, nearly three years ago.

[sinful cloud]

Wait, the problem was the catch up and cubes and whatnot
We had fucking Scherzo right after Noctis last anniversary and didnt hear complaints, doubt an archive that youll be able to pull the ships afterwards will be trouble in dead weeks

[agile quartz]

Considering that we usually get three weeks off after a UR event
Who can say really
Though they'd to say, next event might not be a UR event

[nova girder]

I'd really wish for more designs like Phoenix (who doesn't even have a skin!) definitely. Balloon tits designs have taken over though

[copper bolt]

well the story was never really a selling point of AL

but a more interesting one would definitely be welcome

[cursive horizon]

The story is what sucked me when I started playing, though, and kept me playing. I started during the original Winter Crown run and was fascinated by the Chapter 1-3 story segments, very disappointed when that stopped. I more or less live for the events and lore at this point, because outside of secretary stories that's what I look forwards to the most. Not new boats, not new outfits.

[lunar hull]

can we get another/separate/not linked to affinity gain/ secretary slot for "representing" in guild hall/pvp/etc?

[agile quartz]

There a reason why we don't get story chapters for main campaign
It's cuz JP and CN had an argument on that
Cuz one wants the game to be horny boat simulator while the other wants to turn it into a grimdark, edgefest like Arknights
So in the end we got the aborted fetus that resulted from a messy night between two sharply contrasting ideas

[hearty crane]

Explain to me how dumping them without rate-up helps said newbies in this case. And not, you know, ruins their "coob stuck" even more... over 3 different pools?

And yeah they pretty much don't do it NOW cause of the upcoming UR event. They learned from all the Shinano complaining last year.

[winter hearth]

Is it possible to add new shipfus as mapdrop? maybe even UR shipfu mapdrop, which will be the hugest challenge ever

[narrow sage]

I don't think they'd be having yet another UR event so soon.

[hasty mountain]

if we're gonna keep doing the operation siren reset thing, then add a small amount of opsi coins, tokens and energy devices on the reset shop, so we can buy stuff from the akashi that inevitably spawns on the first few maps we do

[velvet adder]

can we have an item for 10k oil that just clears the whole map too

[ionic matrix]

Just had this thought, but it'd be wonderful if the gear lab could also be used to upgrade T1 gear to T3 gear.

So I could take a blue T1 gear, and dump resources into it to make it into a gold T3 gear

[sinful cloud]

Could be a good use for the blue/purple materials, I like that

[ionic matrix]

It could also allow us access to some of the gear tiers not technically in the game, you know like some of the grey, blue, and purple gear that a T1 version only exists

[winter hearth]

I mean something like permanent UR ship as mapdrop. For example from possible 14-4. Maybe also with garant drop at 1K+ clears

[agile quartz]

What Shinano complaints?
We had a War Archive event after Shinano event not before it
Otherwise before the Shinano event we had Scherzo rerun and a wishing well
Which is more damaging than any war archive

Otherwise I'm not the person arguing against rate ups for war archives
I'm in favour of them if anything

[agile gazelle]

That's like few days of grinding for lvl 125 players

[nova girder]

Is there a real reason as to why OpSi cargo won't grant you Meta Data 100% of the time when doing first clear? I pretty much have to decide between clearing or just farming an already cleared map for metadata (or pay the extortion of 5k oil to bypass this reset nonsense).

[cursive horizon]

It's probably an incentive thing, I don't really know, but I definitely feel it's a mistake to withhold the Coordinates when clearing a stage for the first time, especially when you're forced to re-freaking-do the entire map every month. That makes it hard to do the missions that are in better/harder places.

[nova girder]

I just realised that the shops reset so I'm not going to be that out of action point boosters but still, I really don't understand withholding meta data on first clear. Funnily enough, returning I see they tried to combat the daily grind with the instant daily clears and auto-search but OpSi (and metadata gathering) is much more menial labour than I think it should be.

The 5k oil extortion really doesn't help either if you still have main campaign to clear
E: maybe I'll just pay the price since OpSi grind seems to be the desired way to go

[cursive horizon]

This is the first time since Operation Siren started that I wound up getting almost nothing for Shop Vouchers. I didn't even have enough to get all 30 Efficiency Plans, even though I cleaned out the port shops and did a lot of grinding. Feels like all that hard work went for nothing. Normally I have a lot more points for the exchange shop. There should be a better exchange rate for things you have left over, like all the enhancements I'd accumulated or the special tokens I still had.

Of course, if the High Efficiency Plans were available in more than just this location, it wouldn't be so bad.

[copper bolt]

there's no way u struggle to have excess vouchers if u:

Cleared all strongholds
Cleared all abyssals
Cleared all hidden zones
Did a whole map first clear
Did dailies

even though it is a fair bit of grinding to get to that point

earlier on you get stars that give purple token rewards which probably fuelled your vouchers

[sinful cloud]

Tfw I did that in the first months but manage to get more vouchers by doing bare minimum

[cursive horizon]

This. I feel like I was getting more vouchers by not doing abyssals and hidden zones, because the loggers gave me more points towards vouchers than anything I was getting from completing them. Especially when I did complete them all this month. I was trying to get as much accomplished in Operation Siren as I could, and I was worse off for it.

[fierce sonnet]

but you cant exchange vouchers for gold plates

[cursive horizon]

I can barely exchange loggers for them, too.

[fierce sonnet]

you get plenty of vouchers after clearing all loggers so theres no reason not to do them to get gold plates n mats

[hasty mountain]

I did everthing I could last month and got 9 to 10k vouchers, the shop is a 7k voucher clear so there's definitely some leeway

still, they should reward vouchers for repair kits and AP boxes, the former because they just infinitely gather up until you have hundreds of worthless kits at the end of the month, and AP boxes so you aren't pressured to waste hours upon hours clearing safe maps to spend it all

I'd still probably spend them for the chance at boss loggers, but it would be nice to not be pressured to use them all up before end of the month

[hearty crane]

So you don't do loggers to get vouchers, to exchange for... loggers. I don't see the logic. Also I totally phoned OPSI in last month and got 8k vouchers (and remember, buying adaptive tuning there is an even bigger scam than the 5k oil item, dont do it. Go to the ports, as you NEED to buy tuning to get to the good stuff. Don't shoot yourself in the foot wasting vouchers and crapping up your stores)

[velvet adder]

opsi is just a boring thing i have to do ALL MONTH to get gold plates and gear lab rewards

and before people say oh u can do it without by doing guild stuff

u literally cant because you need those thicc rainbow or gold plate things that only drop in opsi to get the last enhance, so youre literally forced into doing opsi

[covert brook]

Meanwhile, I've been only doing OS on-and-off by just gathering enough coordinates to fight the META villain of the week twice a day and I haven't been hurting for plates once.

[sinful cloud]

My problem with Opsi is that its too boring to do alone and if im doing smth else ill forget about it half the time so barely play it
Just wish it wasnt the same chore every month

[hoary rampart]

Anyone have any luck getting I-13?
The wiki says she was an event limited construction only but I keep seeing her in the special construction and she appeared in the wishing well last month

But after all of my cubes still no luck

[modest island]

/buildrate

[velvet adder]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/460645783021289472/643204327225425920/azurlane_construction_rate_breakdown.png

[modest island]

theres a 7% chance to get a gold from special, but to get an individual gold from special (theres 20 of them btw) is less than a 1% chance for a specific ship

[hoary rampart]

Yeesh
And it was supposed to increase during the wishing well by selecting her but nah
Got basicly every other sub if the build was a sub build time

[cloud sable]

rng is rng

[hoary rampart]

Yep

[sinful cloud]

Wait rare is higher than common? No wonder I get the 3 heavy fucks more than Langley/Ranger from special

[velvet adder]

Dank meme

[hearty crane]

"Wiki says event only" Eeeeeeeeeh?

Best odds would be during the pre-pool rate-up... you know, the thing people here so desperately want removed.

[hearty crane]

Only in heavy and special pools. Light pool has normal rate higher than rare. Click that ! for all the details.

[velvet adder]

weekly rate up for some ships?

[median berry]

Love how y'all changed the requirement for Agir's exp from main to vanguard without saying anything, wasted a bunch of time and oil for nothing

[naive cobalt]

Agir is a large cruiser
Those require main fleet for 1st exp mission, but vanguard for 2nd
It was like that from the beginning and nothing was changed.

[sinful cloud]

Idk if you already grind for her but would pay attention when you do Azuma too

[stoic kettle]

[median berry]

A likely story

[hearty crane]

Its been always that way. If you're really paranoid you can always check the wiki-history for when she was added, which will colloborate it.

[median berry]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-hi-hey-trololol-edward-gif-5383498

[cursive horizon]

I spoke to someone recently when I was talking about the Large Cruisers, who actually only recalled the second requirement and thought she was 100% vanguard. I do get it, though, since none of the other ships have a dual requirement. But at the same time, her being basically a frontline battleship makes needing both make perfect sense.

[sinful cloud]

Shame they cant take a position like Odin if you dont want them in the vanguard with the others

[hearty crane]

" I do get it, though, since none of the other ships have a dual requirement."
Fooled me trying to add Marco Polo with her Iron Blood first half and Royal Navy second half. She's also an exception here.

[sinful cloud]

Talking about that, can Sanrui be grinded with French ships or still only uss
Always seemed weird to me since the other 2 can with French

[cursive horizon]

If I understood the Japanese Twitter post correctly, we're getting Souryuu next. This is unfortunate because except for Helena all our Meta ships are Carriers. We really needed a Battleship, Destroyer, or possibly a Heavy Cruiser instead. And honestly I wish the Meta ships had some sorta story to go with them. Stuff like Helena being in the earlier event was great, but that's about the best we've gotten I think.

[sinful cloud]

Hiryuu was on Opsi story

And Soryuu lost all screws in the event with Helena I think, they were both in that one

[cursive horizon]

Oh, yeah, Hiryuu was mentioned there and I think there was the mildest of teases for Ark Royal. But if Souryuu is supposed to be nuts and beyond saving, why are we getting her next?

[stone valley]

yeah the META characters I think are just randomly chosen
we went from carrier > carrier > light cruiser > carrier

[cursive horizon]

We've had a Sakura, Royal Navy, Eagle, and now back to Sakura.. need an Iron Blood ship. I hear people comment that they want a stronger KMS Battleship maybe, and I've seen a couple clannies say they would've liked a Eugen Meta. Another carrier just doesn't make sense.

[regal elm]

Why not

I mean, Fusou Meta was teased, and everyone assumed we'll get her, yet we get Souryuu. I'm guessing she'll have a significance in the next major event like we had with Helena Meta.

[cursive horizon]

There's plenty of reasons "why not", but whatever. I've already said my two cents on why yet another carrier so soon is a mistake.

[primal valve]

KMS already have OP PR and DR ship
give them a rest lol

[cursive horizon]

Most factions have a PR ship, so that's no excuse for not letting the Iron Blood have a META ship.

[primal valve]

bruh

[scenic flower]

FDG Meta

[primal valve]

disgusting

[scenic flower]

But META CVs must gone for sure. I have plenty of T0 CVs for the rest of my life. Time to make some more nice CLs and tanky DDs.

[primal valve]

new ship that is needed by playerbase is Royal Navy

[nova girder]

The problem with PR is that it is locked behind hefty grind (and especially timegate) though, literally months to even a year. Outside of PR KMS is just lacklustre. Hell, currently outside of events you can't even really make a competent backline for them because Bismarck isn't archived yet so you just have Graf and Tirp to really choose from, latter which you can't even pair with another BB lest you want to make her worse off.

I also just noticed that Scherzo is archived on JP/CN so EN is at least two archives behind? Damn.

[scenic flower]

I used FDG, Bis, Odin, Zep, Zeppy and Scharnhorst. Tirp is a pain to run, but I could pair her with Zep and lil Zep if I wanted too. Now I have August 5*, so it's OK.

[nova girder]

Forgot about Zeppy, at least she's been added to perma pool it seems.

[scenic flower]

Some time ago it was hell to just unlock KMS PR, and the requirements to the ships were crazy. Now they siplified this so much, that it's not interesting to grind for PR anymore. And you still not happy

[primal valve]

kMs mEtA wHeN

[nova girder]

For non-vet KMS is just terrible without Bismarck though.
PR's biggest problem isn't even the XP grind which can be done with "trash" ships (though when you really need those good ships and all the XP has gone to ones that are just middling at best, well...) but the insane time gate it takes to make them functional through all the BPs, which, again could be from anywhere from months to a year (if even that's enough for DR).
Partially because the progress is based on luck and partially because it eats resources like crazy, especially gold which still can be a bottleneck.

[scenic flower]

What are u talking about? There are tons of BP completion plans. Devs are giving you the BPs for free, out of nowehere. There are reworked researches, that give you exactly BPs you want, and not just 1-2 of desired ship and a random amount of others, like it was some time ago. There is also the prototype shop, where you can trade your extra BP. Honestly, I don't undestand, bro. You want to press one button to complete the game in one instant or something? All of us were beginners, and had a long patch to build these PR ships (much longer, than yours), but you still think, that PR must be in access from the start?

[velvet adder]

i remember when en started pr2 late and then had pr3 on time and they gave us 2 ur prints as compensation

[nova girder]

There are completion plans, yes. If you mean the occasional 30+ for X ship and good amount of catch up BPs (if you want to finish one regular PR ship anyway).
The prototype shop though? The rates are absolute garbage for BPs. I'd legit recommend getting the rainbow gun before anything else and even that requires a huge amount of extra BP to fully purchase, meaning finished ships.
Saying that I want it to be "one button instant" is heavily misrepresenting what I'm saying though and you misunderstand me as a newbie or whatever. I grinded my share of PR1 and PR2 but before I quit for the first time I only managed to get FdG for example to around 17 dev level and even after all the catch ups I'm still missing hefty amounts of BPs that'll take months. Either way, my point was that PR is time gated, luck gated (hell, I have had several days where I don't see a single face research and even if I do, I pull the minimum amount of BPs more often than not) and resource gated to a high level, there's just no way around that. That's why it's a pretty poor example of why a faction shouldn't deserve a new ship.

Honestly, this partly ties in to new player experience and importance of War Archives and for example reducing the cube cost on special / heavy pool would also be a good change to make daily pulls from them more affordable (since the pull rates for specific ships are quite horrible), especially for new players. E: It's quite staggering how "secondary" EN actually is and non-US players even more so.

[high pond]

Cry about it

[hearty crane]

We got Crimson Echoes next, then Scherzo, then Moonlit Overture.

[copper bolt]

tbh, I'm just happy they are giving the option to get past event limited ships. Most of them have already had reruns so if you missed it, then that's just unfortunate. The game isn't going to cater to a minority of new players when they can keep pushing out new content for everyone to enjoy.

Yes, the permanent pools are diluted but if you just do 1 build/day outside of events, even though it costs 2 cubes, u still have a net positive cube income and you will eventually get all the ships

wishing well also exists even though it happens infrequently so it can help you get the last few ships from the pools since if u have none, doing 1 / day in special or heavy will net you a lot of new ships

idk about you but a lot of games that have had previous events don't rerun very often at all/add them permanently to the game

but if content is already 2-3 years old, what's the point in making it a major event again just for new players when most of the playerbase has already had that event, probably collected all the ships and done everything for it already

also faction fleets are just a gimmick people can do for fun, it's not a core part of gameplay

also PR is meant to be something end game and challenging

if it was literally free then what's the point

if you missed the german events that make unlocking those ships easier then that's just unfortunate again, but it's still doable even if it's much much harder

reward those who played at the time, give a challenge to everyone else, I personally don't see a massive problem with that

I don't think the focus on the game is to help new players catch up to everyone else (excluding PR because that is just too time gated)

the game devs probably just want to push the game forwards so everyone can get to enjoy new content

also EN does not make up much of the revenue share for AL compared to CN and JP @nova girder so it makes sense the other servers are treated better. They've also been around longer so they probably want to avoid stagnation with too many reruns

[undone swift]

[nova girder]

Yeah and considering CE is like 8 months late we'll be lucky to have Bismarck in perma by 2023

Btw, I don't really see the point in coming in just to say something asinine as "cry about it" when it comes to feedback.

[nova girder]

I honestly don't know why one would disagree with better new player experience. It would be better for the game, no? Unless of course you just want to bank on the old whales, I guess.
Not to mention I don't think anyone is really arguing to make War Archives a major event, at least I'm not. Better schedule over non-existent would be good. Honestly, there's no actual excuse as to why the war archives for EN is THIS off.

Also, challenge and Azur Lane in the same sentence? Especially when it comes to PR where the "challenge" is more or less repeating one map over and over til done and then just shoveling gold (and cubes) into RNGsearch. Come on, mate. Though at this point I'd suggest against shoveling cubes into it anyway because UR events now basically push you to have 400 cubes ready (and save almost all gold for the event to boot!).

At any rate revenue factor shouldn't really play into this at all, especially something like non-US players getting maintenance for the whole day almost or "night" comms are day comms. There's a LOT of room for improvement which could then, hey, lead to new players and more revenue. So I don't really know why all things should just be accepted as is like it couldn't be any better and lack of more new players is something to celebrate and all forms of feedback is met with some "cry more" and generally dismissive attitude. Maybe it's common with Gachas, dunno.

[copper bolt]

I don't disagree that improving the new player experience is a bad thing, it can definitely be improved, but the dev focus is probably on pushing out new content rather than focusing on the new player experience if u get what I mean

[copper nest]

People forgot that meta ships are in "other" faction

[copper bolt]

it's not going to happen in 1 big update that solves a lot of problems but rather lots of smaller updates spread over a long period of time

e.g. beginner missions/PR catchup etc did not exist before

and in a lot of gachas, once u miss the event + rerun, nothing else is added to help you get that specific unit except patience/getting lucky in the permanent pool

[copper nest]

I cannot wait to use my torpedo enchancing parts for upcoming meta 🙂 🙂

[copper bolt]

and AL has the wishing well

also "cri about it more" is a valid thing to do, even if it's obnoxious. The more noise u make about it and more people want it, the more likely the devs will listen/take it into consideration

because there's no direct way for us to influence what they decide they want to do with the game

also I'm just pointing out counter arguments, in the end it's not up to me or you to decide what's right

it's up to the devs, if u can come up with good counters to my points, then maybe when the devs look at your feedback, u will have already countered all opposition to it

in your feedback ticket since this channel is for discussion, not actual feedback

u need to do this to actually give feedback.

[sinful cloud]

Opsi was supposed to be end game and it doesnt even use oil so cant be more free so whats the point of it

I dont understand why ppl think that wanting to improve smth is going to ruin it

[copper bolt]

i never said it was going to ruin it

[sinful cloud]

Also for the revenue thing, it really depends, we had months that we were close to JP

Depends on what kind of content they put out, apparently not even CN liked the idol collab

[sinful cloud]

Herb didnt say to make it free either so why were you saying it

[copper bolt]

free to unlock

was what I meant

[sinful cloud]

I mean besides the coins, cubes and retro bps its already free
Can do free researchs and grind in Opsi for the other 4 steps

[copper bolt]

i was responding mostly to the KMS fleet tech problem for unlocking the PR grind

yes it's problematic

yes we are still missing an archive that would make it easier to unlock

but it's still doable even though it is very annoying to do if u missed those events

[nova girder]

I'm fine with how PR catchup is, btw. The general system is mostly fine as well, but I do wish a face research was more guaranteed than it currently is. At least they seem to have buffed the gold face researches so I'm not just getting 2 BP for 8 hours - they just were never worth it, lol.
It will never change the fact how much luck/time factors in the progress of it though. Later on something like exp cut could be done on previous PRs though.

Likewise, Wishing Well is something why I don't really see a need for big event for WA events so it's confusing how they can't push them out for EN.

But like you said, it's up to devs that may or may not listen and whatever they'll do. And frankly, I'm still as confused as ever about the resource allocation if all they can do is push new events with little if any time for anything else on the side.

The comment about cry about it is clearly made in the sense of just saying the comment is pointless, btw.

[sinful cloud]

One thing I dont understand is why they didnt put a KMS sub there
Thats KMS strongest point and they gave us Nürn to make it easier

[copper bolt]

a PR sub would be actual hell to grind xd

[nova girder]

And like I said, maybe this is a gacha game problem but looking at MMOs for example there's always QoL and stuff coming in while new events or characters or whatnot keep rolling in. E: And maybe that's why many are just content with the situation

[copper bolt]

yeah it's a gacha game thing, usually after a rerun, nothing else happens

sometimes they get added to the permanent pool but not for a very long time / if ever

and are locked to limited events where they pool all the old limited stuff with permanent stuff for a diluted pool

or u pay to select a character of your choice

AL is already very generous if u look at it that way

[sinful cloud]

At least some of those rerun collabs, guess both sides have their flaws

[nova girder]

I was just thinking that aside from few limited in AK I think everything gets added to perma pool almost instantly. Bottom line for these games is of course to make a lot of moolah from random pulls though, so I guess that's just a weighty incentive to keep things as is.

AL is generous in pulls but if you fail to get what you want even if you pulled 200 times, tough luck, try again in 2 years or something. 😄

[copper bolt]

idk, havent really seen collabs rerun very often at all

because the collaborating company needs to allow them to renew their contract or something

because AL doesn't own the IP

found a table of revenue share, it's 1 year old but it gives u the idea

[nova girder]

We'll see if later on laws will catch on to gachas and force them to adapt, or if we just get cut off completely lol

That's actually pretty wild how much more money Arknights is pulling in

[copper bolt]

it's always been like that

since arknights is not as generous with the gacha, a lot of people spend money on pulls

meanwhile most of Azur Lane's money is off skins

[hearty crane]

Nobody disagrees about making things better for new players, but having new players wade with very low odds in flooded pools over giving them a devent chance is NOT making it easier on them. It makes it harder. Wishing Well is no excuse with its rarity and you're limited to 2 ships in 1 pool. No event has so few ships, or all from the same pool.

Also lol at "You NEED 400 cubes for UR events." I don't understand why people still feel the need to lie about that. I was done with NJs event in 20 pulls. You do not NEED the worst case scenario like 5% of people theoretically encounter.

[inner frost]

On the contrary, I personally got NJ after 190 builds, so by "personal experiences" I'd say that you want 400 cubes on a UR event.

[nova girder]

Rarely does event really have more than 2 must haves at any rate. That's why lowering cube cost on heavy/special to make it more appealing for a daily pull would help as well. Just saying that it would suck just means pretty much giving up and letting the ships not come around at all ever (even though JP/CN have them, lol)

-- The 400 cubes is something you need to be prepared for rather than definitely need. Just because you can do it in 20 pulls, which is INCREDIBLY lucky, doesn't mean that most will pull that off.
Also, guess who needed the pity copy on NJ :^) My friend got it at pull #188 as well. Isn't the average around 100 pulls or so anyway? That would still mean 200 cubeish if you got average luck which is still a ton and UR is a ship you don't want to miss since they're extremely likely to be insanely good.

Not to mention the amount of money you should save up because it's a bottleneck even if you had 1000 cubes

[hearty crane]

There's been plenty of dead weeks, they just need to... you know, do it. No need to remove the good stuff.

[nova girder]

Yeah, but for whatever reason they won't Makes you wonder how long they can actually bother holding off WA update while still pushing out wishing well.

[copper bolt]

idk about u but im never at the gold cap and heavy/special ships cost 2 cubes because they're usually stronger and carry you e.g. in meta battles the backlines does the majority of the dmg. They also would cost more irl so it kinda makes sense. I don't see a reason to halve the cost

also 2 cubes spent per day is still a net positive

i did that for like 8 months to clear out most of the missing ships I had from heavy and special pool and I was fine for all events

[nova girder]

Would make sense if they were more likely to grant you something really good (ie slightly better SR odds) but they push out trash pretty much just the same.

2 is positive but 3 is even more positive and that adds up :p

[copper bolt]

well limited builds are 2 cubes each

i dont think spending 3 cubes over 2 cubes = more positive cube income

would it be QoL? Probably. Is it a needed feature? No is how I would see it

[nova girder]

I mean +3 instead of +2 daily. Limited is fine for 2 imo, though the "trash" pool could use refreshing.

[copper bolt]

as diluted as the permanent pools are, the ships are generally stronger in heavy and special

so the 2 cube cost is justified anyway

imo

[sinful cloud]

I have a reason to halve the cost on special

Is cause you get the 3 stupid heavies most of the time that already are in the heavy pool and in all the fucking events

[copper bolt]

u could say the same about the light pool

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Building

heavy and special have a lot more stronger ships imo

[nova girder]

Could separate build pools by Destroyer (+sub and misc), cruiser, carrier and battleships

Even if cost was 2 cube in everything but destroyer tab

[sinful cloud]

Dont see any ships from other pools in there like special

[copper bolt]

my point was heavy and special had more stronger ships in them

when I linked that

[sinful cloud]

And my point is that you get the same shit from special as you do any event most of the time

[copper bolt]

so? U can just build limited then and ignore special pool. You won't get all the special pool ships obviously but u just save cubes that way no?

[fierce ember]

except that this "gererous" side just covers the hell ton of general issues the game has

[sinful cloud]

If the reason to have them there is not having enough common/rare carriers or subs than fix that with w14 or just release them into the pool, Centaur wasnt a problem for that

[sinful cloud]

No cause limited doesnt have the subs/carriers im pulling for

[copper bolt]

all of these CVs i've gotten from limited construction before

if u want subs just do 1 pull daily, it's not that bad is it

[sinful cloud]

Unless its wishing well but the big brain play is that they're mostly during events which im pulling for cause else it takes a million years until we get the archive/rerun

[copper bolt]

if u are at the stage where u want the subs then you must have played for a while so u can manage your cubes wisely

yes because it's a permanent pool so u can pull whenever

[sinful cloud]

Ive been doing that for months... only got U81

[copper bolt]

1 daily build really doesnt hurt

if you're low u do 1 daily pull in light, when you are a comfortable amount u can do 1 daily in heavy/special no?

like someone said earlier, once u have too many cubes, the limiting factor is gold

[sinful cloud]

I see that you're not getting the problem so just forget it

[copper bolt]

yeah i dont think you're acknowledging the counter argument either so we can just leave it

[sinful cloud]

If the counter argument isnt about the problem ofc I wont get it since its on a different page

[copper bolt]

your point is that u want to halve the cost of the heavy and special pool correct?
my point is that these ships are stronger than the light pool justifying their cost. Also if you keep building 1 daily you will eventually get them all even if takes a really long time. Sure your RNG may suck but that's that. RNG.

yes the pools are diluted af but the game is 3+ years old depending on the server

they're gonna get diluted at some point

[sinful cloud]

My point is that its dumb to have ships that dont belong in special in that pool, specially when they are the most common thing ever
If they want to put heavies in there cause if shortage of subs/carriers than put some that dont appear often

Would literally take 1k Long Islands over it cause carriers are the only ones that can enhance aviation

[copper bolt]

you want to remove most of the blue rarity ships then?

so what every single blue ship you pull is a long island?

[sinful cloud]

Yes but would be even better if they made more actual common/rare specials to put there

And before anyone replies with "but nobody would care about them cause they're weak", look at Portland

[primal valve]

what if EN player get to choose skin bought but from other server

Like I want Aquila swimsuit skin but the CN version while im EN bcs its not too attractive

[agile gazelle]

All the 1:30s, 1:40s, 1:50s and 4:00s, 4:20s would like to argue

[copper bolt]

there's already a trello card asking for the option to choose censored versions

[primal valve]

nice

[copper bolt]

just go and upvote it if u can find it

[primal valve]

ok

its from April 2021

wat

[copper bolt]

feedback is just feedback, doesnt mean the devs do it straight away ^^

[fluid grotto]

pls make the game easier, it's too hard

[brazen rapids]

Just wanted to say this, I really appreciate adding of all the additional Extra options for sorting ships in the dock. It really helps finding certain ships much faster than it was before and I hope you'll add even more options as there's still some spare room for at least 4 more filters. Anyways, thank you for that devs, keep up the good work!

[velvet adder]

the stats in opsi just make it even more slower just delete those

[hearty crane]

Devs: World 14, Corrossion Zone 7. But specify whats too hard, this is too generic to work with.

[delicate lance]

When are we getting the background download back. And also the download speed stuff. I want to see how slow my internet is when new updates comes out

[inner frost]

I think intern-kun himself have said this is "not possible" on twitter

[cursive horizon]

That's a shame, cause there's definitely some better looking versions on the CN side. Them saying it's not possible sounds like a cop-out, though.

[inner frost]

And so is us paying more to enhance SR gear and not being able to level ships to 100 without limit breaking

[scenic flower]

Confimation needed, when tapping on multiple oil containers. Just one missclick, and I have +9k oil

[median berry]

better get playin'

[primal valve]

[winter hearth]

It seems to be a big pool. I think it will be a good idea to put some ships as mapdrop only or to PvP shop etc, because with the time pool will be bigger and bigger. And there will be 2 ways, or putting wishing well every 1-2 months. Or reduction of gacha pool

[acoustic helm]

Makes sense

[south sequoia]

Note that this is already the current system - some ships have gotten shifted out of builds into mapdrop-only or pvp shop to avoid diluting the pool.

[trim notch]

Why are some ships voicelines (Enterprise’s for example) silent although there are files when they are spoken?

[blazing heart]

I personally think the best solution for pools that get too big would be to just break them up and rotate them like monthly or something

[velvet adder]

more ships for core

[scenic flower]

no. for merrit.

[random zodiac]

Enterprise retrofit when?

[primal valve]

im opposed to that

[pulsar flax]

We can sneak hachama from hololive in game by disguising her as uss florida , they both have same energy

[agile gazelle]

not really

[sinful cloud]

Can the switch PR timer be removed? No one is gonna get to properly use them if they get them in 1 day, just want to finish Azuma cause I finally got enough coins but ill have to waste 1 day just for that

[narrow sage]

Or at least disable the limitation in regards to going from a recently finished ship to another.

[void schooner]

Swapping from in-development PR ships is what triggers the 24-hour cool down period. The game tells you this. So no matter what you do with the second ship, the cool down still applies because you swapped from a ship currently in development to work on a second.

So long as you're not doing that, there's no cool down.

[velvet adder]

its dumb in that it stays around for 24 hours no matter what if i finish the ship, why wouldnt it be able to move to the next one if there is one available? it makes no sense for it to sit there (and give you the damn notification that you aren't researching a ship) for 24 full hours even though it isnt researching anything at all

its why when i start one i make sure i complete it all the way to avoid this stupid mechanic

[cursive horizon]

It's pretty stupid that if I want to switch from a ship that's only waiting on EXP, to a ship that's only waiting on the 50k it took me a while to save up, that I can't just go the fuck back to that first ship again. It just feels like wasted time all around.

[sinful cloud]

Dont even need for you to have a reason, why is it even there if the requirements to unlock are not available right away either unless youve waited already
Its the time gating boner again and thats why I dislike it so much cause most of the time is unecessary

[velvet adder]

yeah there is really no reason for it to be there at all

[copper bolt]

well i think a lot of people just develop 1 ship and get the gold requirement ready anyway and don't switch between ships unless they begin unlocking it. E.g. finish cheshire totally before starting drake

so it's not normally a problem unless you're constantly switching between researches but there isn't that much reason to either

[viscid moon]

Is thre any way for the game to inform you when you have gathered enough BPs to Dev 30/FS5 a ship, so that you don't waste catchup BPs?

[copper nest]

Go to Research Academy and tap on research focus

Example:

Not perfect tho, definitely would like to get such thing in shipyard

[narrow sage]

in my experience it still applies if you just switched to a ship to finish up last bit of exp/gold/etc.

[void schooner]

Well yes, if the ship you switched from was still in development.

As the game says.

It even tells you you're going to trigger the cool down period if you try and switch from a ship that isn't done.

[velvet adder]

just makes no sense in having it, i dont know why people are defending it so much, why should i not be able to go "oh i want to use ironblood ships now, then hms in around 1 hour" and want to use the exp to contribute to the pr ship and not waste it

yes it gives a warning but they dont even need the system, unless its there to prevent massive game breaking bugs or something which i mean at this point i wouldnt doubt

[sinful cloud]

why ppl are defending it
Ive asked that myself so many times about this terrible system

[acoustic helm]

Same

[cursive horizon]

Definitely agree on that. Tangentially related, though, I've been meaning to ask about something. Now, either I misremembered it or something changed but like.. I thought a while back they fixed it so that the guild "defeat 300 enemies" mission would complete and re-accept automatically, and I certainly remember it doing so for a period of time, but that doesn't appear to be the case anymore?

It would be nice if this and the game's insistence on pointing out there's a guild mission update (the "got it"/"go there" message), despite the very visible ❗ on the tab, could be addressed/fixed at some point.

[sinful cloud]

It re-accepts for me except the first time cause need to claim the tokens

[copper bolt]

you need to go collect the first one because it gives u guild tokens. Every subsequent one doesn't give u any rewards but contributes to the guild fund so it auto re accepts after the first

[copper bolt]

because it's pretty easy to just work around it by developing for 7 days and unlocking the ship. It's not really a grind unless you make it one where u finish the xp requirement before the last timer unlocks

[sinful cloud]

Why am I not surprised that you're talking about smth different again
I meant to remove the 1 day timer that you get when you switch from one ship to the other not the steps timer

[copper bolt]

im talking about how you can just avoid having that problem altogether very easily

it's not an issue if you just stick to the same ship until you unlock them and start the next one

i don't understand how you think this is not relevant to the topic

is it a problem? Sure, it's a mild inconvenience. Is it easily avoidable? Very

[sinful cloud]

Let me just spend a few weeks on the same ship until I get 60k coins which ill waste a load of xp for the other ships when it can be also avoided by removing an unecessary thing

But sure keep your "pr system is good"

[inner frost]

Speaking of PR, Thank you for giving Azuma fate sim, when you two months(?) ago said that there were no plans for DR fate sims, please keep up the poor communication

[sinful cloud]

Dont worry, they'll give us 4 prints of compensation like the other time

Honestly AL is a good game but held back by the devs themselves
We get some QoL of life here and there, which is great, but then get smth that makes it worse

Take Opsi for example, could have been something interesting but ended up with being the same each month and filled with repeated lines that most ended up "removed" and still can be annoying sometimes
Helped many things but takes the incentive of playing away, which you have to do to get that help

[copper nest]

Wait what? Where's any info about it?

[inner frost]

JP twitter

[copper nest]

Epic

Wargaming level of communication.. considering that pr is collab with wg that makes absolute sense!

At least they sent another tweet sort of acknowledging that they fucked up and promising better communication later but promises are just promises.. also they should communicate with en community on en channels as well 😐

[inner frost]

Would be cool if we could get like, a fraction of the JP communication, I agree.

[copper bolt]

company focus always goes to where the money is at, JP and CN just make more money than global so it makes sense they get better communication/anniversary rewards

[hasty mountain]

no plan =/= never will be

[scenic flower]

and what about nopan?

[hasty mountain]

ah yes, translating a twitter post, the most expensive of all company tasks, truly a symbol of where the investment is going

[sinful cloud]

Not to talk how EN caught up on JP's revenue in some months already
And one of the reasons, that Ive seen ppl say myself included, why EN doesnt spend as much is cause no regional prices... I dont like feeling scammed and bet neither do the others
Its easy for JP/CN to spend more cause its the appropriate price for everyone

[copper bolt]

regional prices are kinda worse sometimes like in certain other games, u can be paying 40% more for the "same price" due to exchange rates

[sinful cloud]

They're suppose to make it affordable for the respective country, if companies screw that up its not the prices' fault at that point

[copper nest]

come on we're talking about translating few short tweets whenever they come 😐

[copper bolt]

true

maybe it's because they'd rather release the tweet at an appropriate time for the Americas which is why there's always a delay between EN and JP?

also iirc, JP patch notes are always more detailed compared to ENs on mechanic changes etc as well

having those in EN patch notes would be nice to have as well

[eternal bronze]

add option to retire META and PR ships

[copper bolt]

I think a better idea is to just give a free port slot away whenever u get a PR ship since they're permanent and can't really be reobtained

also I did not know META ships could not be retired, I think getting more port slots instead so they don't take up a slot is a better idea rather than retiring them and making the whole system more convoluted

[copper nest]

free slot +1

[eternal bronze]

just add retire option

i don't wanna farm fatesim for FDG when i barely didn't even get her to dev30

[uncut sleet]

If they did that you know some people would be clumsy & be like "omg why can you retire meta/pr ships grrrrr" but yeah making them not take up dock space or giving +1 docks slots would be easier honestly

[copper bolt]

yeah this point exactly, there will always be those people that would retire then cry about it after

I think it's better to implement solutions that avoid those situations entirely

[eternal bronze]

you can aways add the pin code so people don't retire by mistake

i just want to get rid them of my docks cuz i just dislike the current state of PR

why i can't have control over my own acc?

[copper bolt]

the card got accepted ^^

[eternal bronze]

i would rather retire them but its fine i guess

upvoted it

[copper bolt]

yeah i totally get you wanting to retire them and have control over the dock but it'll probably cause more issues than it fixes

because someone will retire the ship

then possibly want to reobtain them later when no such system exists

whereas i think everyone can live with more free dock space

[copper bolt]

exists yet*

[eternal bronze]

i mean if someone does it its obviously their fault

[copper bolt]

even with the code thing and like triple checks

[eternal bronze]

but yeah free dock space is better for everyone

[copper bolt]

yep totally

[eternal bronze]

i was just acting selfish cuz ive been tired of PR lately

ive been barely catching up to newer seasons even with playing the game daily

[copper bolt]

nah it's totally understandable, dw about it

the PR system as a whole is really bad for trying to catch up to it

it's either focus on the latest season or fall behind and have no idea when you'll be able to catch up

[eternal bronze]

it do be like that

[fluid grotto]

cut the dev some slack, they just want to make money from selling dockspace

[eternal bronze]

yeah

like the hell i will pay for overpriced dockspace

[fluid grotto]

overprice?

[eternal bronze]

rather spend it on skins

but that was not the reason i asked for that

[fluid grotto]

if you're f2p and waste ur gems on skins then thats on you

the dock is nowhere as overprice

[eternal bronze]

not a f2p but yeah i don't like to pay for dockspace when i don't really like collecting ships

i just keep ships i like and thats it

[fluid grotto]

if you're not collecting then dockspace shouldnt be a problem?
just retire ships you dont like,
there around 500 ships in game, doubt u'd even like half of them

[eternal bronze]

again

[scenic osprey]

I think it would be nice if, instead of the three +10% map heals and +1 ammo, repair ships have +3 ammo and +one 20% map heal (or for OpSi, neither, and instead a single map-use remove already-sunk damage from one ship)

[sinful cloud]

Considering that you cant even get a 3rd of the current ships with default dock, it is overpriced but we still fall for it cause collection so they wont change it

[hearty crane]

Pretty sure they actually never said that, which is why we always suggested keeping 215 extra around. Ince they refused definitive confirmations...

[inner frost]

JP twitter would have no need to "apologise" for that then, which they have.

[sinful cloud]

Maybe they said it differently for them

[hearty crane]

Are you kidding me, no regional prices? Google definitely does that, the EUR price is NOT just dollar converted.

[velvet adder]

actually its illegal by european union to have different regional pricing inside the EU

[sinful cloud]

Its more expensive with EUR when its worth more

[velvet adder]

which is why on twitch all subs cost 4 euro wherever you live in the EU

[sinful cloud]

I mean that makes sense cause its the same coin but the conversion definitely doesnt happen

[hearty crane]

Except for the monthly pass oddly enough

[sinful cloud]

Go figure

[hearty crane]

You know Japanese, right? But yeah they said "No plans AT THAT TIME." And absolute dead silence if that meant it would come later or was definitive no, so everyone was recommendes to save them up.

[sinful cloud]

Gotta love her FS tho, makes a small change to PR and then "how about we stop them for a few more months in PR2"
Basically going with my point earlier

[eternal bronze]

so how do we catch up with newer seasons now?

[limber jolt]

And here I thought that dr fs was gonna be done with coins

[eternal bronze]

with DR fate S it will be gated even more

[sinful cloud]

Maybe if we werent playing tower of rng and had a consistent system players could catch up

[eternal bronze]

150 BPs catch up is a joke

kekw

[inner frost]

"no plans at the time" usually refers to "we are not thinking about that". Either way, I'm "complaining" about their poor communication, not the fate sim itself. Even though it's going to take longer to "complete" her now

[velvet adder]

i mean i heard from japanese people in the tweet that its only been 2 months since they said original quote

[eternal bronze]

as i expected from a WoWs collab

[velvet adder]

its not even WoW its manjuu

[inner frost]

on top of that, All fate sims so far have been added at once with the new PR season, with Azuma being thing first exception for some reason

[eternal bronze]

its aways about communication

[sinful cloud]

Collab with pepega company must be pepega, I would say both are at fault cause WoW must have a saying if others collabs do

[velvet adder]

id say its unlikely they still have a part in it

at least pr2 DR prints are available in the protoshop

[sinful cloud]

for an extremely good conversion rate

[velvet adder]

true

[sinful cloud]

No wait

[hearty crane]

PR5

[sinful cloud]

If PR D researchs dont appear anymore after they're completed, whats the point of the shop bps

Think they didnt thought that completely through... again

[hearty crane]

Reminds me how they released the prototype shop 2 months before Fate Sim for PR1. At least now we know to save up stuff, back then it was brand new with no knowledge in advance to hold prints...

[eternal bronze]

i will just say this

[hearty crane]

No, no plans AT THAT TIME means no plans AT THAT TIME. Just like they said no plans for 120+ THIS YEAR which doesn't mean never. Or "No more UR THIS YEAR" doesn't means 1 UR per year so many MANY people claim for some reason...

[velvet adder]

i mean its pretty short notice, 2 months? idk why u feel the need to defend them over this, they messed up

[eternal bronze]

JP/CN had more 6 months of PR2 compared to us, we barely got some sort of compensation for that happening, i had to ignore most of PR2 so i could get into PR3 to catch up even with not focusing researches on Drake and Cheshire i still got behind, i was forced to skip FS of Mainz and Odin and now im trying to catch up in PR4, i have a feeling that this all will be gathering and gathering and its turning into a shitstorm, now with DR FS it will be even harder to catch up to newer seasons, how they plan to fix this really?

[sinful cloud]

Dont worry, they'll give us 4 prints as compensation again

[velvet adder]

im just lucky i didnt scrap my prints like last time having to predict they will fuck up (or try to screw people playing over, who knows) is a thing that people have to learn sadly

[sinful cloud]

Before anyone says "EN doesnt give as much money" for that problem so they wont bother, CN complained about PR too and they barely changed anything since that pile of absolute crap came out, didnt even changed the main problem that was complained about

[hearty crane]

Not like we didn't expect them to add Haru to PR3 down the line. They shoved her to PR4 eventually though. Consistency hasn't been with PR in regards to DRs, number of ships etc.

(That empty spot in pr3 and 4 is still butt ugly. You think they would gave found something for that by now)

[copper bolt]

• to both of your points

[hearty crane]

If you maxed all ships and go to that season, all Ds appear. It's in the ! Not really sure that was needed with G and H, if they improved G a bit to be random prints, D guaranteed not G the unreliable discount D.

[hearty crane]

Yes, it is. But everyone and their mother recommended to keep the prints due their vagueness and lack of confirmation. People here seem to claim they said "nevah" then went back 2 months later. That's not the same thing.

[velvet adder]

yeah but thats a community thing still doesnt excuse the devs saying it being ambiguous then going back on it

having to need the community to say "oh they said this but tbh we don't believe them" sounds like the communication you put out is like crying wolf, nobody believes you, even your most trusted players

maybe they should try to build a better reputation amongst the players

[copper bolt]

it was implied in game anyway that u need to save prints for DR Fate sim

since it wouldn't auto convert them

[velvet adder]

just like its implied there will be a 6th pr each season and there will be further rewards for limit breaking certain ships

[sinful cloud]

They do? But then whats the point in them lol
If you maxed them all you wont need anymore bps cause youll focus on another season or on gear which the D researchs will taking the space of

The more I think about PR, the worse it all gets

[copper bolt]

because some omega whales with cubes or hardcore grinders actually manage to finish PR and do research for gear

[sinful cloud]

Yeah but then if you finish PR and go for gear, the researchs for the prints will take the space of potential gear researchs

[copper bolt]

u get prints -> convert to cores to buy gear prints

obviously bad return rate but still

also they get to save up for a potential DR fate sim

[sinful cloud]

With the awful conversion rate, its more worth to just get more gear researchs

It doesnt make sense

[velvet adder]

i mean most of the good gears arent even included in that most protocores gear is garbage

[copper bolt]

yes but they don't expect you to get that far into research

like idk about u but i barely know anybody that has finished PR

[sinful cloud]

So they created smth for you to never finish... that makes the whole thing even worse

Like how do you even manage to create smth like this, ive seen awful devs and features but jesus PR has to be the cherry on top of the cake

[velvet adder]

operation siren is just as bad like living groundhog day, same grind for the same shit, no end in sight

[copper bolt]

idk about you but the main selling point of AL was never its gameplay

at least it wasn't what drew me to the game anyway

is the PR system really bad? Yes

i think everyone can agree with that

[sinful cloud]

Ik its more of booba but would still expect a game to have good gameplay to keep me in

Thinking they are entrenched in the booba and forgot the rest at this point

[copper bolt]

on the point of what's the point of gear researches still being there after u finish the whole season, it affects so few players, i don't think they should bother changing it for now

before they even think about doing anything like that, they should fix how we can actually finish PR ships in a timely manner

[sinful cloud]

Somehow gear takes even more time to get than the ships

[hearty crane]

Guess its for prototype shop farming as people say here but it seems a bit redundant to me too.

[copper bolt]

only the rainbow ones but that makes sense

[eternal bronze]

Prototype shop is too eh you can't even analyze bps of ships you haven't researched

[copper bolt]

but yeah it takes an absolute age

[sinful cloud]

Gonna be honest, for me I would delete the whole thing and put smth like the META skill grind
At least thats consistent

[fluid grotto]

it's to clean the roster

[eternal bronze]

the sooner they add retirement for PR ships the sooner i can forget about it

it was fun to grind when it was just PR1 and PR2

PR is designed to be a long term grind

but they do not give you many chances to catch up by each season

300 bps catch up is cool and all

but the DR one is a absolute joke

not to mention the RNG in researchs can make it stall your progress

like

its been 1 month since i got my last cube face research

[hearty crane]

300 bps for pr1 is cool but 600 bps for pr2 is a joke?

[blazing heart]

Nah they meant 150 for a DR is a joke cuz that's not even close to finishing them

[sinful cloud]

[copper bolt]

well 50 per PR1 ship (on avg) is nowhere close either. Albeit it is easier to obtain prints

[blazing heart]

Yeah but u can choose to put them all into one ship at least

[sinful cloud]

150 is almost dev1-18 on a DR but then pretty much need that just for 25-30, nice inflation

[copper bolt]

true

[hasty mountain]

the big brain move is to ignore azuma and only come back to pr2 when they release fdg fate sim

[eternal bronze]

good

give me the prints then

cuz she still dev 25

[sinful cloud]

Then they take 2 more years to release that and Azuma FS isnt worth it anymore

[hasty mountain]

good, saves me a couple months scraping through pr2 for 1 ship lol

[sinful cloud]

But then she takes space that could be FdG's

[hearty crane]

She should, theoretically, be easier now since only Azuma D's can appear. You know, if D was actually buffed.

[hasty mountain]

or even better, it takes long enough that they enable PR2 prints for gold like PR1

[sinful cloud]

Remember kids, if you want to be a programmer take PR as an example on how you dont do things

[hasty mountain]

don't even have to change season focus then

[eternal bronze]

watch out they increasing the coin value you need to purchase DR prints

good way to be bankrupt

[sinful cloud]

Implying I aint already

Had to stick to only 3 daily pulls on event to keep a good coin count already

[hasty mountain]

if they charge 3000 coins for 1 print that's the same as running a face research minus the wait

[hearty crane]

200% of 0 would still be 0 on the first 2

[sinful cloud]

If theres one thing I want is for them to rework the entire system, there needs to be a miracle for the current one to be good

[hearty crane]

(That I always forget on PR1 since "Hey I have an ingenious idea.. 4 hour delay FOR NO REASON.")

[sinful cloud]

With no warning when ready

[hearty crane]

[hasty mountain]

I heard there was a parallel universe where they added the PR print ready warning and people came to this channel to complain about notifications

[eternal bronze]

i heard there was a parallel universe where they actually compensated for the 6 months we lost

[fluid grotto]

[eternal bronze]

anyways im out of here since its useless to keep dragging this out cuz nothing will change anyways, i just wish i had the ability to retire my PR ships thats it i don't even want for them to fix it anymore.

[hearty crane]

You can always try support. Much better than a suggestion that can absolutely ruin a player's account.

[eternal bronze]

maybe i should indeed try support thanks cuz this shit haven't been doing good for my mental

[scenic osprey]

While true, it would still be nice.
And even though both ammo ships are event locked ||one possibly forever||, would be nice if should have some map functionality too

(Sorry thought you were replying to me)

[velvet adder]

will azuma and fdg also get the 30 bp completion plan? might be good to do the plan for azuma when the fate sim comes

[hearty crane]

#game-news

Oh wait, EN didn't mention the bp plan. Go EN :/

[velvet adder]

[hearty crane]

But yeah, we get her 30 bps event with fate sim

[uncut sleet]

Man i miss when mini events got story cutscene's specificly the casual ones where it's just the gals having fun, secretary stories are great but they make me want more.

[cursive horizon]

Agreed, since the story is one of the major reason I both got into and keep playing the game.

[swift pendant]

I notice that many events in the past had shipgirls that can’t be obtainable anymore (EX: Hololive, Northern Parliment), and I wondered if there were ever considered a trading system of sorts to be implemented?

Primarily, for those that started getting into the game late and those that no longer play the game and want to bestow them onto someone else. Of course taking precautions so that, hypothetically speaking, some two-bit newby admiral doesn’t trade their lvl1 USS Spencer a veteran admiral’s lvl120 USS New Jersey…
For Example, the trading system (under the guise of a “Naval Reassignment/Restationing/Transfer”) would require players to meet a certain criteria to access it as well as following some sort of Equivalent Exchange (Common for Common, Super Rare Light Cruiser for Super Rare Light Cruiser, lvl120 for lvl120, etc.). For each trade to take place, admirals would handover a large amount of resources (for example: maybe 2500 gems, 5000 oil, 5000 coins, or some combination of varying degree/amount)with the shipgirl they put up for trade so as to prevent disrupting the flow of the game and making it too easy for admirals to get ahold of SSR shipgirls TOO easily...

Just wondering… Azur Lane’s pretty decent and made learning WWII history much more engaging

[cursive horizon]

HoloLive, Kizuna AI and so forth are collabs and will never be repeated (sadly). However, Northern Parliament just needs to (someday) have their rerun and we'll see their ships again. May be another year, though.

[worn mirage]

could be this year, there's still a few months left

[thin turret]

With current blueprint obtaining mechanic, DR FS is killing my will to play game

[acoustic helm]

U ar not the only one

[hasty mountain]

Operation Siren explore maps -> when you defeat a boss sometimes they will spawn a rigged crate that gives you a random effect (between 3 random moves and 5 turns of 1 tile movement I think): all ok but... why does it leave a lingering effect in the map? it has already served it's purpose, the resources were collected and the effect was given to the fleet, so what is the purpose of leaving the effect tile there until you collect it again which you simply won't?

[hearty crane]

Its a bug they introduced with OPS auto and never fixed... one of MANY things they broke :/

[copper bolt]

could easily lead to the abuse of IRL money trading so it's probably off the books

[swift pendant]

Dang…

[topaz otter]

not only yours. DRs shouldn't exist, they take way too long to max out, are overkill for everything, and keep staring into your face all the time, unmaxed, taunting you constantly

PR is a bad system and needs an overhaul IMO.

Not bandaids in form of one-time catchups.