we still need to take feedback that isn’t the same thing over and over again
#game-feedback
ornate basin
stiff orbit
Yeah, how are you guys gonna change SHOUNEN and BOUYA to fill your agenda?
velvet adder
Clicking on an "UNKNOWN" in the retrofit archive should give you a button to take you to the ship (or map), similar to the archive panel giving you the map where the ship you don't have drops on.
night jasper
My feedback is that I gave the TL team the benefit of the doubt back during the resume fiasco, I talked to intern privately (since this place was on fire) and he promised he would internally discuss with the team to rectify things as people were clearly not happy with the TL philosophy. One month and three patches later, it keeps getting worse and worse. We would be having more constructive feedback right now (typos, grammar, improvements, etc.) if we simply stayed faithful to the source instead of changing for the sake of memes and personal interpretation. This team has run its course and spawning unhappy customers all over it.
minor robin
/mute 2h 169893418275700736 Trolling and contributing to off-topic in game-feedback after being warned to stop
serene marshBOT
Vortimer#2755 got temporarily muted. Reason: Trolling and contributing to off-topic in game-feedback after being warned to stop
sour monolith
I wish they could understand that people just love this game so much and not actually wanting to get it ruined. Hopefully they take the feedback positively this time 
late pecan
Completed on the commission screen should be changed to "Start" if the commission hasnt even been started
rare jay
@velvet adder We do have a card to allow all ships to be shown for the tab instead of saying "Unknown". Would this solve the idea or do you want it expanded on a bit more? https://trello.com/c/oTJN738j/454-show-not-yet-retrofited-ships
@late pecan Yeah, it's a known TL error
velvet adder
Expanded functionality, take me to the map or take me to the ship -
clicking on a non-owned ship in the other tab gives a [go to 9-2] for example
rare jay
Got it. Your idea's been added
sturdy rapids
itd be nice if there was a distinction on whether you have the ship or its just the retro you dont have
honest rune
When you click "Ship drop" in battle, you should see like before entering in the map
velvet adder
Let the players have the option to either "Escape" or "Retreat" on any node instead of them being limited to specific nodes ("Escape" for Boss and "Retreat" for Mobs) 
forest harbor
make prinz kai
velvet adder
Not for moving siren nodes though, defeats the point
sturdy rapids
like say if you have the ship but not yet retro it shows the retro icon but darkened, and if you dont have the ship it shows the non-retrofitted icon.
minor robin
We do not take suggestions for retrofits of ships.
rare jay
@sturdy rapids You mean if they showed all the ships in the retrofit archive tab instead of "Unknown"?
Or are you talking about a different screen
sturdy rapids
yeah if they ever show them all. It'd be nice to have a visual distinction on which ship you have or not.
Yeah the retro tab
marble wren
Agreed
rare jay
@minor robin Wanna get this one? ^
serene marshBOT
Quzilax#9597 got temporarily muted. Reason: Trolling in feedback
rare jay
List, I got that idea added for you on the card 
velvet adder
What about mine?
rare jay
I'm going through them, one sec 
minor robin
Toaster onegai, i'm half awake
honest rune
make something like GF for enhance, crossing out the one they have the max stat, so I don't have to make a list of enhance ships (I believe other have my problem on this)
sturdy rapids
there was a suggestion earlier regarding that
rare jay
@honest rune For you first suggestion, so when you enter a node battle, and press on the ship tab it just shows you the rarity it can be. You want that changed to show all possible ships, correct?
honest rune
Yep
wicked atlas
Can we not have art in the game for loading screens that we’re not allowed to post screen shots in the discord? Edit: or at least an option to turn it off.
velvet adder
Is there an existing card for better filtering in the Depot? Like rather than "Main gun" ->DD guns +CL guns etc. Like with the dock. Not sure how to search cards.
And/or a way to view ALL gear, including equipped gear, without having to be in a ship changing their equipment
Is it possible to have more fleet slots or an option to save our fleet setups?
I think CN has 6 fleets so it might happen eventually
Yeah id also like to have more fleet slots 
4 is so few
rare jay
@honest rune Alright, here's the card for your first suggestion https://trello.com/c/lW18ITxf/641-show-ships-that-can-drop-when-entering-a-node
@velvet adder https://trello.com/c/66aOCAwy/642-allow-retreat-and-escape-from-all-nodes
ornate basin
its available in other versions @velvet adder
it will come to our version sometime
goes up to 6
velvet adder
@rare jay That's sick tyvm
rare jay
@wicked atlas We have a suggestion to allow disabling of specific loading screens that the player chooses
velvet adder
Ok hopefully soon tks
sturdy rapids
tbh even 6 feels few. We got 4 dailies so only 2 extra fleet compositions if you max those. Is it possible that if we do ever get them its more than 6
dark kraken
Is there something up for mass unequipping of fleets? Would be nice to remove full sets without having to go ship to ship.
rare jay
@velvet adder We do have a suggestion for better filtering options. And for seeing equipped items, you can now w/ the new UI. Once in the depot, there's an option on the left hand side saying "Equipped"
honest rune
Why you can't remove the last main or vanguard ship is that useless? (Sometimes I have to go out my major commission to change those ship)
velvet adder
Thank you, I missed that button
rare jay
@dark kraken Yepp, we do have a suggestion for Mass Unequip. Here it is for reference: https://trello.com/c/Ft93FlKD/370-mass-un-equip-from-all-the-ships
@honest rune Hm...the game probably just wants you to have one so you can use those fleets, but we do have a suggestion to allow getting rid of all ships https://trello.com/c/bXTsOgrd/202-remove-all-ships-button
wicked atlas
@rare jay Is that being considered for a feature or has it only been noted?
rare jay
It's been noted and brought up to staff specifically so hopefully it's up for consideration but unfortunately none of us can say for sure
dark kraken
Awesome tq
wheat saddle
Consolidated feedback post from me;
Heavily dislike the initially proposed names, i want a clear direct translation whenever appropriate and suitable, along with consistency and standardization in the game, not memes.
CN/JP uses 小《name》 which simply means Small/Little <Ship> or ship-chan (japanese honorific).
With the above sentences in mind, something like Little Cleveland, Little Helena would be fine. If the name is too long, something like Lil Cleveland, Lil Helena is suitable. Likewise, with Zeppy being a precursor, a simple name like "Sandy" alone would be fine.
The last thing i need or desire in this game, is for official names and interface to be filled with crappy memes that are not faithful to the original material, i don't need a 1:1 raw translated copy, i want a good accurate translation with suitable adjustments made as and when necessary. If i want meme names on my ships, i can do it by ringing a ship and giving them whatever custom name i want myself.
I also like to point out the usage of regional specific slang, such as that atrocious looking "Li'l" [alternative examples could be like: g'day mate, etc], while this game is currently using UTC-7 pacific standard time, it is undoubtedly a global english server, not an "American" or "EU" server. Please translate using proper English all the time, this is serious feedback from me to the translation team.
Feedback regarding translation team;
As far as i personally know, the localization job is not some voluntary side-hobby, it is an actual paid job and people are expected to deliver. This is not the first time translation hasn't been up to par, at the end of the day the game is a service and i am a paying customer.
If people are unprofessional in their work, it's time to buck up otherwise i would trust the upper management to handle them as required. All i can say is that at my current stance, i am not pleased with the work of the translation team.
I don't expect or need people to get fired or whatever nonsense of a public announcement, whatever happens in the background stays behind the scenes, all i want to see are positive changes to the game, hoping the translation improves in the future.
honest rune
Maybe this was already suggested, Make the AA formation more useful? I don't see a lot of motive to use that maybe in world 12?
minor robin
Well, with the new air superiority mechanics, said formation has become even more necessary if you intend to low cost
But what exactly do you have in mind?
Cos I'm guessing that wasn't
eager aspen
If anything single line would need some help imo
honest rune
I really don't know, Buffing a damage and debuffing something else, even what to buff and debuff what stats can you with a formation? makes the other formation "stupid", Single line have his uses like boss for example?
velvet adder
I'd like something akin to the 3 formations for AI auto movement patterns. I don't have a particular problem with the current AI movement but it would be interesting to chose between different kinds maybe. For example the current one spends a lot of time dodging to the side, another one could circle in the center etc. You might want to pick one or the other based on your own ships using torpedoes or whether you're faciing a boss or lots of suicide ships.
I feel like it would add to the game since 99% of it is played in auto, and it gives a choice.
eager aspen
Single line is only useful in maps you can clear anyway, frontline dmg vs survivability later on is heavily favored towards survivability
honest rune
Make "U-556/Bismarck" special equipment say that gives an ammo for U-556? Maybe I didn't read that or the fact that give an ammo is a bug
rare jay
@honest rune Hm...ideally it shouldn't. And you're sure that it's the item giving it? As in, if you take it off her, the ammo still stays the same?
minor robin
It changes to 2 once removed
rare jay
What hidden stats/effects?
eager aspen
It gives ammo can confirm
minor robin
I'm not even sure anymore
I don't think it's mentioned on CN/JP, but lemme double check
honest rune
There is a buffer like QE for USS?, but yes before the item she had 2 ammo
honest rune
There is a buffer like QE for USS?, but yes before the item she had 2 ammo (Discord...)
minor robin
No there's no text in EN at least, but it actually happens
I'm using it
rare jay
Well I was going through some of the JP text and I didn't see it there either(but that was through my rough TL so I could be wrong)
minor robin
USS does have "niche" buffers in the form of essex and bunker hill, nothing like qe/nagato/mikasa/bisko
but we aren't taking suggestions for new ships and by extension skills either 
honest rune
Just wanted to know, nothing more.
azure sable
I'm just here to say that Clevelad is the best freakin name this game has ever had and I totally approve.
daring spruce
Theres a lot of text in here, has there been made a card yet for the new ship names that I can upvote?
rare jay
It's been forward to the devs directly so no worries. It went straight to them
daring spruce
Ah ok, thank you for the answer
marble wren
Absolutely not giving any more money to EN until they stop these unprofessional translations. It is not their job to meme and rewrite stuff out of its original purpose and context, we have a renaming system for people who love inserting memes. Not that it's the worst of translations but comparing the story to JP you can notice a ton of missing or outright changed elements. The new names being the most unprofessional yet, please stop trying to pander to a discord/reddit minority instead of doing your jobs.
bitter rune
Hello, I just wanted to say I enjoy the names for the small botes. Keep up the good work
wise gulch
@daring spruce I'd rather leave it up to players with rings to give their ships "funny" or "meme" names and have the default name be a proper and fitting translation instead of the other way around. I think @wheat saddle has said it all above and I pretty much fully concur with his solid write-up.
ornate basin
we do not take direct versus localization arguments here
continuing such an argument will result in a warn
azure sable
What is the best channel for such feedback then?
eager aspen
Feedback is fine, leave the arguments elsewhere tho
azure sable
Okay.
minor robin
We're not taking feedback on direct translation vs localisation at all, as it simply doesn't belong here.
Please refer to the pins for more details.
young bloom
I think rather than this about direct translation vs localization
proper hedge
Just reiterating my old feedback, I'd like for more backline damage feedback/notification
Old ui had a red border pops up when a backliner takes damage, but now it's only the damage numbers popping up. I've noticed this a bit since I was surprised that my tirpitz was already that low without any real visible feedback
serene axle
oh yeah that was useful
young bloom
it's more about some of the people are disliking how that EN localization are so different than the other region for no reason, even though KR are also localization too
velvet adder
I would also like better visual cues to separate when you're dealing burn/flood damage vs actual gun damage - to enemy boats
tawdry hill
"We're not taking feedback" is exactly the problem here
minor robin
Let's not a discussion about it again.
serene axle
"We are also not taking feedback about taking feedback."
minor robin
This isn't a discussion channel.
azure sable
I admit to being a bit confused here. The pins specifically say that the feedback on the names and if people like them should be left, but you just said you're not taking that feedback?
rare jay
@proper hedge Got it created for you btw. Here it is for reference: https://trello.com/c/qw9Ev6Pm/643-better-damage-indicators-for-vanguard
minor robin
We're not taking a discussion about direct translation vs localisation
We are taking feedback about the renaming
mystic forge
@velvet adder 's suggestion is definitely something I'd like as well, a visual cue regarding flood/burn damage vs actual dmg would be very nice
proper hedge
@rare jay i meant the backline, not the vanguard in that case, but thanks very much
azure sable
I guess these terms mean something different to this team than they do to me. I'll just not, I guess.
rare jay
my bad, one sec
wise gulch
You realize there is a lot of overlap though, right? Many people who dislike the renames do so precisely because it's not an authentic translation but rather someone trying to be funny.
turbid loom
technically, feedback on the names is feedback on translation vs localization
minor robin
my bad, i phrased it wrongly
We are taking feedback on naming, and such localisation/translation issues
HOWEVER, we are not gonna entertain discussions in this channel
rare jay
@velvet adder Hm...what would work good for it? Different colors, or what would cause it to pop out more 
sharp yarrow
Feedback on the names, not what to do with the localization team
minor robin
Sorry for the poor wording
wise gulch
Ok I get it now. You're okay with people saying "I don't like x", you just don't want people to respond to one another about it and discuss their feedback here. Basically: Post your feedback, don't respond to other people's feedback posts. Am I right?
minor robin
Yes, sorry for being unclear
2.30am does weird things to your brain
velvet adder
@rare jay Something like a water drop or a flame, it could be small and made out of text in game? I'm not entirely sure since I don't design things. I can only tell between AP ammo and NOT AP ammo. An entire revamp of clarity for damage would be nice. Indicators that this ammo type on this enemy is bad is also possible?
minor robin
you can have your discussion in places like #off-topic and what not ofc
naive cobalt
Well, more like general, since it's about AL
ornate basin
but they wont be forwarded to staff
torn junco
The "this ammo type is bad for this armor" is already exists, grey color
azure sable
I think I understand. Thank you for the clarification. Consider getting some sleep as well.
velvet adder
Seperately, I'd like something on the map menu or even on a node that tells a map's rate of armor type so it's easier to pick gear. L:65 M:20 H:15 B:H ?
Grey color does not signify which boat, just that some ammo is a bad ammo type. Often it will be normal ammo or you can't tell. I personally can tell usually what gear I'm using since I read wikis etc but it's not newcomer friendly.
Seperately, I'd like something on the map menu or even on a node that tells a map's rate of armor type so it's easier to pick gear. L-65 M-20 H-15 Boss-Heavy ?
Grey color does not signify which boat, just that some ammo is a bad ammo type. Often it will be normal ammo or you can't tell. I personally can tell usually what gear I'm using since I read wikis etc but it's not newcomer friendly.
For Cleveland, masculine terms like "bro" or "lad" are just nicknames (which she doesn't like btw). Those who want that can use the ring.
Nicknames should NOT be official names, that's all I want to say.
rare jay
@velvet adder Okay, got the first created for you and the second one added to a previous card. https://trello.com/c/EMWlAJrU/644-better-differentiation-between-flood-burn-dmg-vs-gun-dmg https://trello.com/c/1zrah9Ou/402-indication-for-type-of-enemy-you-fighting
ornate basin
all the little ships use a nickname, underneath, theyre still their original namesake, but they dont count towards anything
azure sable
Yeah there was a whole scene about how Little Bel thought of herself as Belfast but they gave her that name to avoid confusion. Which makes a lot of sense.
ornate basin
under little bel's name in dock it will say HMS Belfast
turbid loom
so you are suggesting that if we don't like the names, we have to either never touch the ships or to pay real money, part of which goes to supporting the people who picked the name we don't like, to ring the ship in order to rename it? My feedback would be that is an awful way to treat customers. this isn't the first time that this type of "outrage" and, at the current rate of improvement in the localization department, it won't be the last.
ornate basin
the hard part is pleasing everyone though, which means people will have to resort to oathing them to change their name if theyre one getting their fur rubbed backwards, but we dont force this upon people
velvet adder
A tick box to disable scrolling of the current 'limited' panels on the front screen. They scroll rather quickly and the times I've clicked on the one right after the one I intended to click on is definitely non-zero
honest rune
A little thing when you do skills, When you select a ship it goes to the first book in the slot, it could be helpful and quality for life if it selected the same book color of the skin and if you are at lvl 9 skill 5750/5800 in automatic select a T1 (just saying)
cursive wasp
how acn you reasonably say you dont force this upon people
ornate basin
havent seen this suggestion yet @velvet adder let me check rq 
velvet adder
I'd rather have Lil instead of Li'L (the second L shouldnt be capitalised anyway since its not a new word only an apostrophe otherwise it would be I'Ts which is just wrong punctuation)
opal pawn
@honest rune or just ask for an auto queue up book function which imo is the superior option
cursive wasp
i really doubt people would be very upsetti about little cleaveland instead of a meme name
velvet adder
@opal pawn they probably want us to be checking on the game often though so I don't think that's going to happen.
ornate basin
I can reasonably say it because we're actually taking feedback instead of just shooing people away and saying "just oath and change the name if you hate it so much"
azure sable
Making something worthwhile is about more than just upsetting the minimum number of people imo.
opal pawn
@velvet adder as if we don't already done that with commission ending around 1 / 2 / 4 hours lel
turbid loom
but are you actually changing it? or introducing optional names? no.
velvet adder
I'd like notifications and auto-refills for everything myself
opal pawn
young bloom
Won't it be easier to go with the same like other region though if you're worried about not being able to please most people? Since afaik the other regions are seems to be using little x for the current little ship no?
minor robin
We cannot offer an answer as to whether the suggestions will be taken or not.
That will be up to the staff themselves.
velvet adder
Can anyone confirm if its Li'l or Li'L since if its Li'L then its a bug since its wrong
minor robin
Let's set that aside for now
ornate basin
@turbid loom please understand we are receiving this feedback literally in the past 3 hours, we wont have a reasonable answer in such a short time, especially when staff arent even online
minor robin
We should not be expecting a reply from the Yostar staff about this issue for at least another 7h
It would be extremely unreasonable to demand a reply from them at 3am in the morning, which thankfully no one has done I hope
ornate basin
@velvet adder https://trello.com/c/GPsaFvTf got it
regal elm
Uh... I hope I wasn't intruding some serious discussion here, but... are there people who are asking for the red border indicating damage taken on backline fleet during battle to be reinstated?
minor robin
correct
regal elm
Ah then, I might add some suggestion for that. I'd like to see an improvement for that so the red border can be modified to indicate specific backline ship that takes damage. Like, say, if the border is in center screen, then it's the center ship that's taking damage, and if the border is on upper corner screen, it's the upper ship that is getting rekt.
Did I explain that clearly?
rare jay
I understand. I'll modify the card real quick
regal elm
Okay, cool.
harsh oasis
@velvet adder I think it's only LI'L in the announcement because everything is in caps, it would be Li'l when it's actually in game
velvet adder
Yeah thats maybe what i was thinking
vivid igloo
Nope, twitter post say Li'L. On same note, imo it is terrible localization (or translation, still can't grasp difference between them), why not just use simply 'Sandy'? It is easy, perfect name for kid San Diego. I see no reason to add Li'l in front of her name
velvet adder
Because I named my ringed San Diego "Sandy"
Thats probably since San diegos nickname is Sandy like Belfasts is Bel (a reason why little bel couldnt just be bel)
and probably nobody named their San Diego "Little San Diego" or "Li'l Sandy"
vivid igloo
Same with Lena being name for kid Helena. In most countries those two names are totally different names. Little Helena would be much better. Same with Clevelad, but someone already explained it better above.
upper mortar
horrible name choices but you're about to suck out another 100$ from me for skins so keep up the good work I guess 👍
vivid igloo
Well, some people named their Graf Zeppelin 'Zeppy' (I know at least one person) and they didn't mind little Graf Zeppelin named 'Zeppy' when she released. I don't think many people would be angry with small San Diego being called 'Sandy'. Though I may be wrong with this assumption.
velvet adder
@ornate basin My gripe is that it's more of a meme nickname and should stay as that. There's no point in forcing it, that should be up to the players to decide (with the ring). For me, the "little" tag would solve all the problems.
I simply prefer consistency in the naming scheme, do it the same across all of them
azure sable
Well I feel that things like Clevelad are awesome, both because its a clever play on "land" and because it ties directly to the character getting called a guy in canon. Its not even a meme name because this is actually part of Cleveland's personality. And its a joke that only really works in english, so of course its not a direct translation. If localization only removes fun things that make no sense without adding any fun things in return, then maybe we end up with a more literal product but we might not end up with a very fun, funny, or exciting one. So I definitely want to voice my support that its okay to do little things like this, especially with ships that are going to be for a collection and probably not have any practical use in the game. Its okay to have some fun a day in our lives.
minor robin
And before anyone starts
Please refrain from arguing with people over their opinions.
shy burrow
I think Clevelad is a terrible name and you already voiced your support for the name earlier on. I don't think it's necessary to do repeat it multiple times.
bitter rune
Why are so many people lurking here just to react
ornate basin
please check pins and refrain from toxic comments in any aspect
bitter rune
I hope they dont change the names to something so generic as Little X, theyre perfect. 
vivid igloo
As someone better explained it: "If you want ship to have meme name, use rings to change original name. Not use rings to change translation from meme name to normal name".
So, to sum it up: I don't like names for new 'kid' ships. They seem to be done just for laughs and not as proper translation to me. If I would name them, they would be following conventions already established by other 'kid' ships, by adding 'Little'/'-chan' to their names or giving pet names.
Kid Cleveland - I agree Clevelad is clever play, until we remember Cleveland would hate being called that. Little Cleveland would be much better.
Kid Helena - As I mentioned above, Helena and Lena are two totally different names in most countries, Lena being simply derivative of other names ending in -Lena (in example, in Poland it's short for Milena, not Helena). Little Helena is my best creativity.
Kid San Diego - I see no reason to add the "Li'l" in front, if you already are changing her name to Sandy. Argument that just naming her Sandy would be not good because other people already named San Diego already as such is bad in my oppinion. "Sandy" or "Little Sandy" would be much better.
bitter rune
I hope they dont change the names to something so generic as Little X, theyre perfect.
vivid igloo
As someone better explained it: "If you want ship to have meme name, use rings to change original name. Not use rings to change translation from meme name to normal name".
So, to sum it up: I don't like names for new 'kid' ships. They seem to be done just for laughs and not as proper translation to me. If I would name them, they would be following conventions already established by other 'kid' ships, by adding 'Little'/'-chan' to their names or giving pet names.
Kid Cleveland - I agree Clevelad is clever play, until we remember Cleveland would hate being called that. Little Cleveland would be much better.
Kid Helena - As I mentioned above, Helena and Lena are two totally different names in most countries, Lena being simply derivative of other names ending in -Lena (in example, in Poland it's short for Milena, not Helena). Little Helena is my best creativity.
Kid San Diego - I see no reason to add the "Li'l" in front, if you already are changing her name to Sandy. Argument that just naming her Sandy would be not good because other people already named San Diego already as such is bad in my oppinion. "Sandy" or "Little Sandy" would be much better.
velvet adder
I'd like a new mechanic to destroy equipment I have too much of in a way that nets me parts for other equipment I want. Such as destroying excess A6M5 Zero fighters to get a Aichi B7A Ryusei blueprint.
It's easy later in the game to have the money and time to have excess gear but it's annoying to open a billion gold boxes and not be able to move toward a goal other than by chance.
some gear can't be farmed on maps
upper mortar
The 2 different name argument is kinda dumb, simply because Azur Lane NA is for N A < - Not poland
eager aspen
It is not for NA, it is simply the english server
Calling it global would make more sense
upper mortar
so its stil engrish, not polish
naive cobalt
I repeated myself on "leave your feedback and go do something else" plenty of times already
slender mica
Is there a way to report cheaters outside of the game?
Currently the report feature is in chinese and can't use it
agile otterBOT
Hello commander, if you'd like to report a bug please send me a direct message with !feedback and I would be happy to assist you. However, be sure to check #known-bugs to make sure you're not reporting something that is already known. You can also check the Trello boards here:
Bugs: https://trello.com/b/Hd2cMeYU/azur-lane-official-azur-lane-en-bugs
Translation Issues: https://trello.com/b/7gz5rAAi/azur-lane-official-azur-lane-en-translation-issues
ornate basin
you can through belfast
rare jay
She has a report option
slender mica
Thanks
tardy arch
I actually like these names. though lena for st. louis is a bit weird but whatever.
also someone totally called clevelads name before it was revealed.
upper mortar
lena is helena
tardy arch
oh. nvm then.
quasi merlin
3hardmode 6dailyraid 15 exercises 8sos is already too many dailies for a mobile game, now add 6 more event maps and ex event and its even worse.
slender mica
On a side note, once you have a strong fleet, you can auto those raids. Once you clear the HM to safe you can skip to boss, and same for event
silk agate
I do all my dailies in 40 minutes when I wake up in the morning. Not even taht bad. filthy casuals /s
slender mica
You can clear with low lvl and auto most of it.
I do the dailies while walking from home to work in about 45m
quasi merlin
y have 3 hardmode map when it can just be 1 with triple the reward or same with daily raids
lofty flume
it's already 3 with double the reward, used to be 6
slender mica
I feel other games that start with F and end with O are way less casual friendly with an emdless list of daily tasks
eager aspen
It has already been reduced from 6, it would also severely slow down the Akashi questline
silk agate
They used to have 6 hard mode maps you know... also thats the whole point of gacha games. They're meant to suck you in with the what if I lose out on the rewards mentality. Personally I haven't done any SOS or the chip dailies
quasi merlin
lol does akashi still make u do it 6 times dats funny
slender mica
Chip dailies can be autoed if you use CVs. Other modes need manual most of the time
quasi merlin
i finished it before the change to 3 hardmodes. i thought they wouldve reduced akashis quest to 3
slender mica
Other raif are very auto friendly
quasi merlin
i just find it lame that i can finish fire emblem heroes dailies before finishing B3
naive cobalt
cut the chatter
mint python
those nicknames are lazy
tidal pulsar
Request to change "Tap to retry, ERROR(CODE5)" when updating to "Not enough internal space available". Or is there a code list? it took me a while to found the cause of the problem
naive cobalt
tbf I never understood why games display error codes instead of just explaining what the error is 
final cape
As per what you said restart about leaving the feedback and then leaving/not having a big discussion, message received and I will just drop this and I will not reply to anything or debate anything. Just dropping my feedback that I also really do not like the new names. People legitimately don’t even know that Lena is Helena lol. I mean most do, but it’s just not good practice to just have completely FUBAR’d naming schemes. We already have Little Bel, and established that Hiei-chan would have her name because she’s in Sakura. So I feel that Little Cleveland, Little Helena, etc just seems better. As it stands, literally all 3 have different names. Lena’s just makes no sense. It’s confusing for no real purpose and a change made not for clarity or for any real purpose either, which imo, makes it a bad change. Anyways that’s my feedback, will drop it and ‘go do something else’ now lol
shadow rune
Put sub equipment in regular boxes or make sub boxes more accessible and with higher tier than blue.
Having to farm nodes that are not always available as the sole source of high tier sub equipment is tedious
eager aspen
Some sub gear shows up in the Core Data shop, making more boxes other then the ones to get you started kinda defeats the purpose of farming the SoS maps tbh
shadow rune
sub nodes should be made permanently available then
naive cobalt
Subs are essentially free damage. Moreover - this free damage is dependent on their gear. It makes sense for them to be hard to build with proper high-level gear.
shadow rune
they cost oil to run so it's not free
fallen coral
Is this where I come to complain that Isokaze and Urakaze still aren't in build pool?
naive cobalt
this isn't channel for complaining or ranting, no
they will be added to the build pool eventually
toxic basalt
Hey there. Just saw the names for the new kid ships. I'd like to suggest to change their names to something like "Little Cleveland", "Little Helena" and such. I think joke names are better left to the players themselves and not to come from the official translation team. It's the same problem that "Belette" had really. Thanks in advance.
fallen coral
How about suggesting that we do what JP/CN do and just add monthly's two months after their runs.
naive cobalt
Again - if they are in perma on JP - they will be here as well. Plan is to catch up and match JP in terms of content
shell bramble
Feedback: With the new UI, when using the primary flyout (for viewing Canteen/Merchant/Com/Classroom/Lab), I think it would be a better experience that when I expand one category, it closes other categories (such as if I open the Classroom to view the timers, it closes the Commission section if it had previously been opened)
Totally willing to accept that I'm in the minority that feel that would be better UX, though
teal cave
Hello i would like to suggest the possibility of summoning the submarines in the boss fight regardless if the boss is inside the hunting range or not.
Mostly because bosses have some set spawning ranges that arent inside on the hunting range, even if you consider the use of Meowficer and Battery (Things we still dont have), but like i said even using those some bosses will still have their spawn spots outside the hunting range.
Maybe im asking to much, but i would like to be able to use my submarines more.
naive cobalt
Sure, lemme add it to the list
https://trello.com/c/OH52OGOO/647-summon-subs-on-boss-fight
also added suggestion about sub equipment (just a bit more reasonable) https://trello.com/c/2D8QEec9/648-make-high-tier-sub-equipment-obtainable-outside-sos-missions
nova dragon
Hallo could we get a sort by affinity option in the dock screen? That would be v useful
nova dragon
ty I'll upbote it
lyric maple
can a card please be made about how terrible the "NEW!" icon on drop ships is. this is a screenshot of how it currently is, followed by an edit with the tacky "NEW" in the new UI, followed by the old, shiny, pretty one
ornate basin
we cant even see the new one though
why make feedback on it now when we dont know how it looks due to a bug?
lyric maple
yes, the point is it'd be nice if it wasn't invisible
ornate basin
its a bug though
lyric maple
oh it's a bug? i thought that it was intentionally small, sorry
ornate basin
I’ll keep this feedback in mind, but until we can actually see the “New” I wont make a card 
feel free to say it again though if you like once we can see it
lyric maple
alright, tyty (i think it'll probably be alright judging by what little i can make out from how small it is)
ornate basin
no problem
lyric maple
i'd just put this in the feedback channel twice already with no response and thought it was being ignored but feedback has been very busy
ornate basin
I like the unexciting one, but with an exclamation mark, I totally see it being exciting and also hd
eager aspen
It fits better with the new UI too imo 
lyric maple
i just miss the way things looked soft and friendly and bright in old ui so i'm biased 
i have another suggestion for the ui which probably wouldn't get implemented but worth a try - the background on icons for SR ships is yellow shaded with grey, making it look kinda like a piss-yellow instead of gold, it would be nicer if it were changed to be shaded with orange again
tidal pulsar
Prince of Wales summer skin still has the censored CN version in her portrait, same happened with Prinz but she was fixed
high dome
Quick question:
Is there still untranslated text in the new Bismarck event?
I'm asking because I'll give you the translations as a holdover until they get updated.
They might not exactly match though because I'm not sure if they've been changed since we submitted them on 5/15
But at least you'll know what the untranslated text says
slate monolith
I think it was from the sirens scene if memory serves
high dome
Ok
slate monolith
Yeah the second secret cutscene
high dome
Observer They have once again failed to break the Awakening Protocol.
Tester That is a disappointment, but think of all the sweet, juicy data we've collected.
Tester But why did you choose Bismarck as your guinea pig? There are so many other, much more suitable "catalysts".
Observer The defeat of the Iron Blood was a foregone conclusion.
Observer But no matter how obvious I made it, no matter how many hints I dropped, she refused to be swayed from her course.
Observer And this is precisely the kind of mind I wanted to study - one which defied all our statistical models. She could have been the key to a successful "Awakening," the "Vector" that would usher forth a new future.
Observer There was one who could hear the Song of Ragnarok, and began her lonely dance.
Observer To those who could not hear the music, the dancer seemed a madman.
Observer She was that dancer. The one who dances in the face of her fate, doomed to never become The Sun.
Tester ... You're talking more and more like the humans of this era.
Observer I've had a lot of free time to decode the documents of this ancient civilization. I suppose you could say I've been inspired.
Observer Besides, collecting the artistic heritage of each period is also one of our core functions.
Tester ......
Tester Anyway, I've just received a new message.
Tester Work is nearly complete in Sector C3 of the Mirror Seas, we just need to prioritize distribution of the testing materials.
Observer Testing materals...? How fortunate we've just acquired a fine "specimen" from Bismarck over there.
Observer Now what say we enjoy a good old game of chess...?```there's the second secret scene
keep in mind i'm not allowed to do this
ssshhhh
slate monolith
The first one was with Tirpitz and U-556 though.
high dome
was there a missing part of that one as well?
rare jay
Nah, that one was fine
clear heron
Except horseplay
Also all the parentheses are missing opening ones.
But besides that it's fine.
lost palm
I have high hope for translating team to not fuck up loli ship name. But it seems all our feed back go in to trash for translators. I will just vote with my wallet.
high dome
all opening parenthesis are missing? @clear heron
so in a line like this the ( isn't there
(Bismarck turned her last remaining battery and aimed at Tester, who was still transmitting her message.)
Bismarck My loyalties are not to some weapon, but to the people of the Iron Blood.```fantasmagorious
naive cobalt
why are you in feedback channel
high dome
U-556 Heh heh. I am the great Parzival of the Seas! Winner of the Knight's Cross with Oak Leaves, U-556 herself!
I bid you good morning, Lady Tirpitz~
Tirpitz L-Lady...? And just what is that title supposed to mean?!
If I catch you misbehaving again, you'll answer to the military police!
U-556 Heh heh heh... It'll be a cold day in hell when those pigs can catch The Lucky 556!
Here, Lady Tirpitz, you give it a shot. See if you can chase me~
Tirpitz What?
U-556 did a graceful, if a bit silly, backflip into the harbor.
Tirpitz Get back here, you!!
Tirpitz seethed with anger at the submerged U-556, popping blood vessels on her forehead.
U-556 Hehehe, chalk up another win for 556!
Your little sister is so like you in so many ways, Lord Bismarck.
The great Parzival of the Seas, U-556, is off once again to fulfill her knightly vows!```
high dome
......... how did the ) get there?
solemn citrus
I don’t remember anything untranslated in the Sirens scene. Just got it recently and it was fine now
tardy arch
cause they fixed it
sturdy rapids
On academy when a class just finished and you press cancel the ship gets removed and you have to find them again. Sometimes you do this accidentally cause of mistap, suggestion is even if you cancel instead of getting a new book, the ship remains in the slot.
ornate basin
getting a new book so a pause button essentially?
sturdy rapids
Something like that. Cause current UI you sometimes just fuck up with tapping
naive cobalt
That sounds like more hassle than anything if you actually want to just cancel it
sturdy rapids
Actually wait. Let me redo that suggestion. It does sound like a hassle
also restart, like i mentioned it isnt an intentional cancel. Just so you can easily give the ship a new book incase you dont correctly tap the confirm button. Though I guess thats more a problem on the current UI than the academy itself.
high dome
i think what he's saying is he wants the ships you just trained to be at the top of the ship list when you look for them again?
sturdy rapids
or that, that sounds good too ^
ornate basin
so cancel the book, but keep the ship in the slot?
high dome
like the frequently used sort in the docks
ornate basin
or cancel the book and get a prompt to select another?
sturdy rapids
sometimes i forget which ship i just leveled so.... yeah... keep ship in slot. Sorry for poor wording
ornate basin
https://trello.com/c/SjTlAxZR @sturdy rapids
sturdy rapids
thanks @ornate basin and with that in mind. I was thinking of maybe also improving how the ships in those slots look and work. Like instead of selecting the ship then directly to skills before the ship is added to the slot, my suggestion is you pick a ship to add to the slot, then choose which skill you level. So previously:
pick ship then skill then book
ship gets added to slot
now:
pick ship
ship gets added to slot
pick skill
While this sounds more hassle than its worth and is definitely going to be low prio, imo its just nicer to navigate and easier to adjust incase you dont want to level your ship's skills anymore. Kinda like how FGO does it. This would be how it would look like in the academy slot in training:
if ship doesnt have a skill book yet then you just remove the timer and the cancel button.
and final thing to add, idk if there's a suggestion yet but show the skill levels of your ship in slot selection.
That's all. Sorry for the long feedback
rare jay
Also, for the skill level in slot selection, you actually can. When you're selecting ships, you'll see an option at the top of screen that says "Skills". Turn that on and you'll see skill levels. Although they only say Skill 1, Skill 2, etc
sturdy rapids
is it the same one in the docks where it covers the icon of the ships
rare jay
Yeah, it grays them out and slightly covers them
sturdy rapids
thats nice, only problem is it kinda looks ugly but it gets the job done
slate monolith
@amber cairn it's known
amber cairn
wow people actually add eachother huh
amber cairn
oh my bad @ornate basin thought i pressed bug reports.
alpine crown
Loli Wave 3 Name Feedback:
Can Lil' Sandy lose the "Lil" and just be Sandy?
Clevelad is fookin' fantastic btw.
marble wren
Clevelad is dumb. It goes against her characterization by giving her a masculine name when she's always hated being called aniki. It's also a completely unnecessary localization because "little" was already written in katakana for her name, it's the definition of an arbitrary change to pander to discord memelords. Little Cleveland would have been just fine.
ornate basin
just a reminder, localization vs direct will not be used as an argument here for translation feedback
velvet adder
Clevelad is great and the game is laden with memes, just get over it already
prime moth
Blame the translators for it then, original scripts and names don't have any kind of memes
But to not be off topic, I would suggest a "Unequip Fleet" button. It would make so much easier to unequip all my ASW fleet after clearing the SoS missions
velvet adder
Hermes, BB Kaga, Jamaica, Phoenix, Kawakaze, [...]
No memes, indeed 
ornate basin
theres jokes scattered all over the "original" script, but regardless, localization vs direct will not be an argument here
prime moth
I worded that wrong then, I was mainly complaining about the "new and epic" memes introduced by the translation team but whatever, this is not the place to discuss this
ornate basin
as for unequip fleet, I believe its been suggested
https://trello.com/c/bXTsOgrd @prime moth
prime moth
Nice, thanks
spice yoke
Have the devs thought of like, during the events, fleets with event ships get like a minues to their oil cost?
It'd be helpful for those who dont have time to grind as much as others, the less oil the use the more they can play in their limited amount of time
void schooner
Well, it isn't like grinding is some kind of race that needs to be won, so I don't really see a reason why something like this would be considered.
sturdy rapids
Sounds like a good incentive to level up and use event ships
minor robin
I actually thought of something similar in the past, but it's the reverse concept
Give increased drops for using event ships, kinda like the stuff fgo does
I just can't remember if I made a card for it
marble wren
The actual debate of "localization vs direct" was said to not belong here. That doesn't mean people cannot criticize the naming of the ships, especially when they explicitly said we're allowed to criticize and offer feedback of those ship names here.
And we should because Clevelad is completely stupid. It goes against the character and localization to insert a shit meme. Try reading if you immediately blow off people criticizing it because of a pinned post you can't even read yourself.
The EN team has been going too far inserting fanfics for a long time and this one in particular was completely unnecessary because the japanese did not need any localization, just translation, because little is already in katakana. I'm not here to "debate" the localization vs literal translation, I'm just here to offer feedback and reasoning because I feel like this is an issue that's gone too far.
astral ore
this ^
slate monolith
Cleavelad works because we know her normal form as Cleavebro, so I see nothing wrong with that
late pecan
I like all the nicknames, I hope they dont do something so unintuitive and simple
as add "little" to all the botes
slate monolith
That was just for Belchan, since they weren't sure how to go about that for a localisation
Although for Sandy.... She deserves it
regal elm
criticizing and giving feedback is one thing. Being salty and just debating to flood this channel is another thing.
late pecan
I enjoyed the Zeppy approach, but that wouldnt work for heLenny, Akagi-y, and Hiei-y
Ill trust the devs on this one cuz I couldnt do better
slate monolith
Well for any lolified IJN ships they can get away with using the -chan honorific because it's a thing with Japan
Zeppy is a rather cute name for her too and it sunds like a nickname for her there
Although I get the feeling that eventually we will have more Ark must be lolified jokes if another event like this happens, but that's my two cents on the matter
sturdy rapids
So the idea is for event ships to get a bonus during the event. Either drops or damage increase, or lessen oil cost. Whichever gets implemented I'd be happy. Tbh I see that oil cost will probably the least likely thing to be implemented but eh, can't hurt to be hopeful.
slate monolith
Well I would use Sandy if she can somehow survive the maps I put her on to xp grind
quiet roost
Are these new unit names an out of season April fool's joke? I'm seriously asking
regal elm
refrain from using racial slur thx
stone cargo
Why the fck are you adding another set of kindergarden versions of ships omg. Rather fix that failure of an UI
ornate basin
remember, localization vs direct will not be an argument here
things like “translate accurately”
or “look at the original names”
fall into this
instead, suggest an improvement/state your feedback
deep sorrel
https://trello.com/c/cxrEdN2P
Title should say sonar not radar
ornate basin
really gonna go after my cards huh
it should be fine
but if it really bothers you I’ll change it
it says sonar in the desc. though, so it will come up either way
stone cargo
Here is some feedback. Pls do not duplicate every single ship by making a kindergarden version of it. We had lolified ships literally 2weeks ago and then they are here again why the hell? I think in light of recent problems with UI devs should focus on something else than completely unnecessary weird stuff such as lolifying every single ship in game
naive cobalt
why the hell Children's Day
stone cargo
Yes I know its childrens day but then why it was 2weeks ago
ornate basin
children’s day happens on different dates in china and japan
eager basin
Yeah those artists should stop drawing ships and fix the UI instead
quiet roost
Here's my suggestion: get better translators
stone cargo
So we at EN celebrate separately childrens day for every single country inclouding asia ?
eager aspen
We simply follow new content as it is in the JP server
stone cargo
I just hate the fact that the lolified ships are completely worthless addition to the game (there are enough jailbaits as it is) and the timing is really unfortunate. Plus lately my collection ratio goes actually backwards because ships are being added faster than resources to build/grind them and there is like maintanance for whole day at least every week. This just cant continue like this or the game will very soon bury itself under crap. Im really worried here I saw that happen many times before with other games
teal cave
This is my taking on the loli ships, my feedback on the way they choose to do it:
"What i question myself is why they made some of the popular ships in loli form.
If the event is really for childrens day in JP (Zeppy, Akagi-chan and Hiei-chan) and CN (Helena, Cleveland and Sandy), they could have made new ships.
There's 4 Mutsuki class ships that they still dint made, Yayoi, Kikuzuki, Mochizuki and Satsuki, they could have made them for that Childrens day as gacha ships, and those "popular ship lolis" they could have been free, and not use our "love" in the real ships to make us roll on loli versions.
But they choose to make the loli version of ships we already have, yes it will end-up looking like they dont have run out of creativity, but i dont think it's that.
But making those loli ships Elite (SR) means, not making they easy to get, the first JP batch even had it's own banner and needed 2 cubes to roll, while the second batch uses the light pool, a lot more cheaper than the first banner, but dont they understand that rolling for Elites can be very bad, and not just one, they made multiple elites on the same banner.
Akagi-chan and Zeppy, had lowered rarity if you compare with their real conterparts, we can say the same for this new Sandy, but why not make Hiei-chan, Little Helena and Little Cleveland, rares?
Those are just some of the concern i have with the way they did those new lolis, im not gonna say i dont like them, since they used some of the most popular ships, and i like their real conterparts."
versed saddle
Well I just wish the staff was able to read the discussion for the last day as promised.
dreamy loom
Oh, they'll read it. They also almost definitely file these into "irrelevant".
wooden carbon
I propose instead of anally demanding localization fixes for fake fanservice botes we instead divert that effort to fixing all the typoes in the event and all of the misnamed "AA" guns from pr 
brisk pecan
So, Bismarcks barrage is being fixed?
Maybe make the spread of the barrage better in the process or something. As it currently stands it feels underwhelming.
velvet adder
I'm told it should now reach the backline
The pattern was never broken in the first place, it's just the reach that didn't
brisk pecan
Yea I know the pattern isn't broken, it's just not very good considered it also doesn't do that much damage
At least it'll reach the backline now.
I suppose that her barrage isn't meant to be her main strength, though.
tawdry onyx
Surprised her barrage doesn't do more tbh
eager aspen
Tbf Bismarck is still a good ship even with her barrage being as is
brisk pecan
Yeah I know that her barrage isn't meant to be her main strength so I can live with it hitting the backline and getting no other adjustments
Was the fix already patched in or will it be patched in on this update?
wooden sigil
Can enterprise have a second skill
minor robin
Putting aside why a ship with literally the most broken skill in AL would need another skill, no we won't take requests of ship retrofits, since that's the only way to gain a new skill.
honest rune
Enterprise Retro with any skill will be more broken that all IJN too
minor robin
You don't even need to go so far tbh
If enterprise had plane efficiencies closer to the Essexes (not equally spread), she'd be on par if not better than them
Sure she's been outclassed as of late, but that's altogether a different issue
wooden sigil
She is a sr and thats why i asked
velvet adder
Sometimes, one skill is more than enough
velvet adder
There is only one way to play a carrier - correctly
This means giving her the right planes and launching at the right time on Manual
honest rune
Giving a retro to sr ship is hard to have and to make it right for not being too broken, Warspite and Sandy retro are super strong
velvet adder
Warshite isn't super strong, but yeah
Not to mention, every gold Kai comes with an event, and that takes time - from the devs' part as well as the players, you need to plop that event down somewhere
proud snow
I have a complain: Way too much maintenance in the past few weeks. Can we have a reduction of that? ||Not like the mods care...|| 
minor robin
It's not like the mods plan the maintenances
We're DISCORD moderators
Not Yostar staff
proud snow
Tell them then. This is getting ridiculous.
minor robin
also really the large amount of maint has to do with the UI update
static needle
Id rather have more maints than this buggy mess of a game right now. (if the maints are meant to fix the bugs)
minor robin
And EN isn't the only one with maintenances
naive cobalt
We have so much maint these past few weeks, because we getting new events and ships these past few weeks
proud snow
Still...I want them to reduce them and using a much lesser mating maintainence time to fix.
naive cobalt
And things like UI updates
Maintenance is not there just for the sake of it
If it was possible to not have it - there would be none
proud snow
Still, too much. Too much downtime hurts business. Plus, we dun need loli ships right now.
minor robin
EN was always supposed to be catching up to JP/CN. We're not taking feedback on the pacing regardless, as per the pinned messages
honest rune
Having 2 events like Kizuna and the loli ships was hard...
proud snow
You should know that I'm definitely not speaking of pacing. Damn...whatever. || Not like anyone care about my complaints.||
soft arch
You know, being passive aggressive isnt helping.
Id rather have longer maintenace and a functioning game than more uptime and a game riddled with bugs.
If nothing else the devs should be commended at how fast theyre trying to iron out all the small bugs after UI update
You just cant expect to have barely maintenance and a bug free game. Its one or the other
minor robin
We're having maintenances as often as JP/CN
proud snow
Where is the proof?
minor robin
Twitter, wiki etc
proud snow
Show me. I wanna see. Everybody can say that.
tardy arch
the wiki is a google search away and one search on twitter for the jp account is all you need.
proud snow
You tell me. I'm not going there. I have a life.
mint lake
tardy arch
then this conversation doesn't need to continue.
minor robin
https://twitter.com/azurlane_staff
I'm just going to link the JP twitter for comparison here.
I am not going to spend the time to dig up specific cases either, I too have a life
Twitter
But the evidence is all there
mint lake
good reason to tell other give proof 
naive cobalt
Noone here has any obligations to prove anything. Maintenances are done as needed
This is not feedback at this point, so cease
soft arch
Btw im glad the new ships are added directly to permanent pool
viscid halo
Is Little Helena seriously referring to Little Cleveland as a boy? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/514333567195807754/583618676100431872/unknown.png
This is the original CN line in which she refers to Cleve as a boyish girl. Are we seriously just going to change this whole narrative?
honest rune
I mean, she is wrong?
viscid halo
so this is a bug?
naive cobalt
Well, it's clearly wrong translation.
Not like we can know if it's intentional or not
tawdry hill
At this point it has to be intentional, they keep doubling down on their bullshit
regal elm
no need to start speculating
eager aspen
Is the torpedo req on D3 supposed to be increased?
others might be too, just the first one I noticed
harsh oasis
Not gonna lie, Belette was a bit less egregious than this. I'm rather disappointed this time around. Not mad, just disappointed.
eager aspen
We seem to have the JP reqs now
regal elm
Yeah, the torp requirement increased on my end too
eager aspen
Wasnt sure if it was thats why im asking
regal elm
same, sorry about this
formal oyster
Could we get the chibi animations back for the skin shop ? Those little funny animations are basically what made me buy most of my skins personally, and I doubt I am a unique special case. And it was a nice little thing, don't know why they took it away
formal oyster
( Unless it's a bug but I doubt it )
wheat saddle
To add on to what @viscid halo pointed out above, the source line says
"Who is that tomboyish girl with gold hair, commander? I find her a little handsome" [direct translation]
how did the translation end up with "always surrounded by everyone"? Isn't there a little too much creative liberty and laxness going on?
velvet adder
i mean clevelad speaks for itself
tawdry hill
if they want to write fanfiction they should make their own game, not mess with the one they're paid to translate
velvet adder
Not their fault if the devs don't care and they allow some translators to decide what is and isn't canon
sage cliff
just bring complains directly to yostar at this point. the translators are pushing their naritve on purpose and will only double down, staff here doesnt care either and will only mute you if you complain like yesterday. there is no point to talk about it here. bring it yostar.
velvet adder
good point
wheat saddle
i will pursue this through direct channels then, my feedback is clear above
naive cobalt
I can't go into details, but staff read feedback and currently looking into this whole problem
Will it be changed or not - I don't know and can't tell
velvet adder
as long as it doesnt happen again
naive cobalt
So please be patient and civil in the meantime
wise gulch
The problem being that the translators are doing their own thing with no respect for the source, right? They just rewrite it to whatever they want. That is the problem, right?
naive cobalt
Ranting won't help your cause
celest river
Don’t worry it’s going to happen again because they have a narrative and you can’t change that
velvet adder
thats the core of the issue
eager aspen
May I refer you to the pins
regal elm
can we please not start speculating and debating again?
velvet adder
the tl team thinks they are the second coming of shakespeare lol
naive cobalt
You're free to leave your feedback and go do something else more productive, instead of staying here to rant and argue with others
formal oyster
What's the big deal. If it's a translation issue, just report it as such, why all the rant
velvet adder
I cant believe Cleveland is a transvestite
Anyway, JP has it as a generic "kid", while CN has it as "boyish girl/tomboy". If somebody could please use the bot and report it would be nice, as I currently don't have time to do it myself.
celest river
It’s happening multiple times this is not speculation lol
naive cobalt
All the attempts at trolling or rants will result in mutes
tawdry hill
the worst part is it's getting worse with every update
prime moth
I was going to ask if the feedback already reached the staff but you already answered that. Hopefully (but honestly I don't have much hope) this will be solved
sage cliff
its on purpose yes, same with the commander groom change , they clearly push their own narrative and yostar need to know so they can act.
regal elm
stop
wise gulch
Is there any way people could see that they do indeed know? Because it feels a bit like it's being swept under the rug and ignored instead.
tawdry hill
this is way past speculation @regal elm
naive cobalt
Not sure what you mean by "way to see if they know"
I talked to them about it and they said they looking into it
wise gulch
Alright, I guess we'll just have to wait and see
velvet adder
the only way to see them doing anything about this issue is to see them stop pushing their narrative
naive cobalt
If you looking for some statement - they will give one if they decided on something
thick relic
why are they turning a homosexual relationship (helena and cleveland) into a straight one, are they being homophobic?
warm haven
Wait what
drifting agate
A message saying "We are looking into it" would be enough to stop the ranting for a while, this is pretty basic PR tbh
formal oyster
Are we seriously going there right now ?
thick relic
eager aspen
That issue has been reported as a TL error
eager aspen
I thought fish was going to
wise gulch
I don't see it reported
cursive wasp
People are asking if this feedback is sent to TL team or someone else
slender mica
Hey, I just wanted to leave a small feedback about lil Sandy.
I understand that you want us to grind affection from lvl 1, but can you consider allowing provisional ships to be added to the 2nd floor of the dorm?
I get the point of not allowing passive exp, buy allowing to regenerate morale while doing intensive grind is somewhat needed.
Please consider allowing provisional ships in 2nd floor or dorm
thick relic
ok, I'll do it
naive cobalt
This feedback is sent to Yostar directly @cursive wasp
slender mica
*but allowing to
naive cobalt
@slender mica https://trello.com/c/7VV6Yjvc/651-allow-to-add-npc-ships-to-2nd-floor added
celest river
I hope they come out and say they want their own narrative so we can stop this discussion and people know the real problem with the translation team
sage cliff
they wont do that. they would get fired if they admit it.
slender mica
Thanks for adding the feedback. I just made a small typo and wrote "buy" instead of "but"
formal oyster
I think your point has been made. This is not Twitter guys
celest river
I hope so...
tawdry hill
if we don't raise a stink about this nothing will be done just like all those other times
naive cobalt
Rants won't help your cause either.
velvet adder
Please just translate the game instead of trying to force some awkward localization, this is almost 4kids tier.
celest river
Inb4 read the pinned messages
eager aspen
I mean, yea...
celest river
Doesn’t mean it’s true
velvet adder
Yell louder and stomp your feet harder, I'm sure that'll accomplish much
Why not just translate it like any other person would? The whole Lord Bismarck thing is extremely uncomfortable to read and isn't in-line with any other translation from other servers or the original Patenschaftsurkunde by U-556. First they made U-556 to call Bismarck "big brother" which doesn't make sense from a gender perspective and then they tried to force this percivail/lord relationship, which is totally out of the left field. The CORRECT way to translate it would be either "big sis", "big sister", "Bismarck-neechan" or any of the likes. As a German, I am facepalming at the choises that where made. Pic related is the original Patenschaftsurkunde by U-556.
regal elm
that goes to #bug-reports and someone pointed that out already
velvet adder
Alright, cool, removing it
eager aspen
I dont see it reported tho
turbid gazelleBOT
south sequoia
@velvet adder just wanna point out that the original Patenschaftsurkunde you just linked had U556 literally calling Bismarck "Big Brother"
Might not be the best example...?
harsh oasis
Is Bismarck a man in Azur Lane though?
south sequoia
And the percival/lord relationship is also in the original
velvet adder
U-556 calling Bismarck big brother or lord still wouldn't make sense from a gameplay perspective.
Is Bismarck a shipgirl in real life?
Do you realise how fucking stupid all this is?
south sequoia
Where U555 refers to themselves as the Percival of the seas to serve and protect Bismarck
south sequoia
It's a nice little nod to their historical friendship (heh, ship)
celest river
@south sequoia Yeah but jp and cn changeed it to big sister to fit in the game why EN didn’t do that ?
sage cliff
ships usually are refered to as she but the captain of the bismarck thought that bismarck was to good and strong to be considered a woman so he insisted on calling bismarck a he, i guess thats why its brother in the letter
wise gulch
In Azur Lane, every ship is female and the Commander (you, the player) is male.
tawdry hill
just translate the game, dont put your fanfiction in it
harsh oasis
Yeah I think it's stupid that a woman is being referred to as a man lol,
south sequoia
Of all the translation issues, this wouldn't be the one I'd pick as a hill to die on
brisk pecan
Fanfiction is a literal translation of the fucking letter originally written by those on board the u-556
regal elm
it's not even fanfiction, just some historical accuracy
eager aspen
May I remind you that this is a game with Ship waifus and not a literal repeat of WW2
velvet adder
As far as I know, KMS ships were referred to as males
Why don't you stop imposing your own fanficitions, yeah?
tawdry hill
fanfiction is changing the original text because YOU think this is better
south sequoia
@velvet adder nah, was just Bismarck
celest river
Nah they changed the dialogue from jp to big brother instead of sister
velvet adder
What about the Z series, didn't they all have male names?
south sequoia
@tawdry hill well, the original text was Big Brother. Then the JP/CN text shifted to big sister. But EN translated according more to the historical original
young bloom
Wait, so CN and JP are even more fanfictions than EN because they used big sister bismarck there? 
south sequoia
@velvet adder it's a german grammar thing
gray inlet
Please don't forget that by doing that, you honor the nazi madman that thought ships should be named after males because he thought females are supposed to be inferior.
tawdry hill
the original im referencing is the JP/CN servers, not the text
prime moth
Oh man, EN is the true version after all
formal oyster
Godwin already ?
azure sable
I honestly can't tell if a lot of takes in this board are entirely sarcastic or entirely straight at this point.
velvet adder
I was about to say "PM me the details", but maybe it could be worth mentioning the german grammar thing here
celest river
@south sequoia yeah changed it because they are professionals and made it to fit in jp unlike the EN team
harsh oasis
@velvet adder A huge proportion of the ships are named after men in some way or another (Nelson, Benson, Laffey, etc. etc.) yet were all referred to by the pronouns 'her' and 'she'. Your attempt at trolling pretty poor if it is.
brisk pecan
No, they "honour" those on board the u-556 not the commander of the Bismarck.
shell bramble
Is this not just continuing to stoke the flames, mods?
tawdry hill
the only one who called bismark a he was the captain
south sequoia
German nouns have three genders - masculine, feminine, neutral. Referred to in Der, Die and Das respectively
A ship is gender neutral. A named ship is feminine. In Bismarck's case, the captain requested the crew to refer to Bismarck with the masculine Der instead of the feminine Die
brisk pecan
So did those aboard the u-556.
velvet adder
@harsh oasis Learn to read, you big crybaby, I specified "KMS ships"; it seems I was wrong on that account, so if you wanna point that out, feel free
south sequoia
So, der Bismarck instead of die Bismarck
naive cobalt
Can we not have this argument again?
It was already addressed and answered
Go to #history
velvet adder
Ships are reffered as female in Germany i.e. Die Titanic
sage cliff
kms ships were reffered to as females , some german ships are named after males prinz eugen etc but still were adressed like females they used terms like die (female the) for example, bismarck was called die bismarck by most
wise gulch
I think people are missing the point. This is a video game where every ship is a girl. Every single ship in Azur Lane so far is female. Why try to bring historic this or that into it?
brisk pecan
Also, just to make sure that I was following correctly earlier, has the range issue on Bismarcks barrage already been fixed?
velvet adder
I'll check in a few
blissful gazelle
I don’t even see the point of arguing anymore. Whoever is in charge of the translation team seems bent on putting their gender politics into the translation
prime moth
Going to write an email to CN/JP staff then, they have that translation wrong!
sage cliff
arent the translators from california? that would explain alot kek
regal elm
@brisk pecan the barrage is enough to reach backline fleet in pvp on my end
minor robin
Move the discussion about german ships and their genders and all outside this channel.
brisk pecan
then it sounds like it was fixed, thank you for the answer c:
south sequoia
@sage cliff @blissful gazelle politics have nothing to do with this. Do not bring politics onto this server
minor robin
I will not hesitate to mute anyone that fails to comply.
celest river
Yeah go to history and call her big brother all characters in this game are females jp called her sister so translate it like that @south sequoia
shell bramble
@brisk pecan Given the noise here at present, might want to double check with #bug-reports / #gameplay-help , though Wis said he'd check in a bit
minor robin
This isn't "game-discussion channel"
velvet adder
to be fair they changed Cleveland gender to male, not that woke when the original had Cleveland being addressed as female
eager aspen
That has been reported as a TL error @velvet adder
formal oyster
So all this fuss because Helena referred to Cleve as a boy rather than "boyish girl" when everybody knows that Cleve is a girl and that doesn't change anything ? Or maybe I'm missing something.
azure sable
The "Cleveland is a guy" thing is more of a running gag than actually changing gender.
brisk pecan
And it's already been said that tl was an error and it will be looked into
prime moth
"Error"
celest river
@formal oyster nah because every update we have this problem and translation team doesn’t take feedback
velvet adder
A lot of "errors" lately
naive cobalt
Ok, I'm done. We need more mutes
/mute 2h 373795551583535107 continuous arguments and rants in feedback channel after being warned to stop
serene marshBOT
Azaziz#3330 got temporarily muted. Reason: continuous arguments and rants in feedback channel after being warned to stop
naive cobalt
/mute 2h 215851289551175681 continuous arguments and rants in feedback channel after being warned to stop
serene marshBOT
Huse#7457 got temporarily muted. Reason: continuous arguments and rants in feedback channel after being warned to stop
naive cobalt
/mute 2h 247775258864517122 continuous arguments and rants in feedback channel after being warned to stop
serene marshBOT
Manuela Leon#8881 got temporarily muted. Reason: continuous arguments and rants in feedback channel after being warned to stop
naive cobalt
if all you have are snarky comments and attempts to start shit - go away
Please don't
It's CS email
south sequoia
Staff are already reading it here.
naive cobalt
And they're busy as is
minor robin
Do NOT do that
lost palm
So we cant email them?
south sequoia
This is Yostar's direct feedback channel on their official, personally run Discord server.
minor robin
You don't email their customer support email
That's for purchase issues and what not, not to voice your complaints
lost palm
So where should i email if i want to give them feed back?
south sequoia
They are literally already reading everything here. And if you want to make it easier on them, just leave your feedback instead of inciting and getting into arguments in this channel so they don't have to dig through mountains of petty arguments to actually find the feedback
eager aspen
Just write it here
regal elm
please don't start another argument...
prime moth
I just hope they read this channel and not others because for the "general" channel, we are just "ultra weebs entitled players that want no fun translations"
lost palm
This channel clearly not working
harsh oasis
Won't it just get lost in the sea of comments here? Discord isn't exactly the ideal feedback forum.
sage cliff
lol just write it here where you can be silenced and everything swept under the rug, seems legit :^)
blissful gazelle
Is there anyway to talk directly to CN and JP staff?
eager aspen
There's a difference between Feedback and pointless discussions
naive cobalt
/mute 2h 216613702353289217 continuous arguments and rants in feedback channel after being warned to stop
serene marshBOT
paradise.#9474 got temporarily muted. Reason: continuous arguments and rants in feedback channel after being warned to stop
azure sable
I think the hardest pill to swallow with feedback is that you are being read, listened to, not ignored, but they still won't do what you say because they disagree with your view on the future or current state of the media.
naive cobalt
Regardless if they agree or disagree - you shouldn't expect immediate answer
south sequoia
@lost palm I'm going to say something I used to say frequently in #discord-feedback.
Just because you, personally, submit something as feedback, doesn't mean it'll be accepted and things changed immediately. Yostar has multiple places where they monitor reactions to their translations and other game issues. They check their Facebook comments, they have an account in the largest Facebook fangroup, they check Twitter replies, they have an account on Reddit and check subreddit feedback, and I'm pretty damn sure they monitor /alg/ on 4chan as well.
The feedback that you, personally, and people you hear giving may not match up with what others are saying elsewhere. Or, they simply disagree with what you're bringing up as an issue because what they see across all platforms is different.
As what Saikar just said - it may be a hard pill to swallow. But that's the reality of the situation.
minor robin
lost palm
Okay. Last flash back with loli ship name. Translation team say little bel is little bel because its sound english it cant be bel chan. Hiei chan and akagi get free pass because dev forced them and akagi hiei is japanese. They even go their way to change in game line on this. Now is lad is american enough? How we will take translation team serious enough if they even cant get their rules straight?
south sequoia
Bel-chan's change was because Bel, as an English ship, would not use a -chan suffix. It doesn't make cultural sense. Akagi and Hiei, though, do use the -chan suffix.
You don't see other ships who refer to other ships in the voicelines use -chan, -san, -sama suffixes. Because it's not something that's used in English
lost palm
I am sure if they settle with little x. There will be no more of this pointless argument. But no
blissful gazelle
@lost palm give up nothing will be changed and you will be silenced
minor robin
Let's not make any such assumptions.
formal oyster
Hiei and Akagi are Sakura ships, where Little Bel is a British one. Makes sense to me. As for Clevelad, well Clevedad = Clevelad, maybe that's the pun intended.
regal elm
I'm just gonna put my actual feedback here. It's one of my previous suggestion that might have sink because of the situation, so I'm reposting it.
Can we have a some sort of "Last Spurt" in the final two or three days before an event ends? Normal Maps has x3 bonus that can only be collected once, and it resets everyday. So, how about a Double points period in Hard Maps and/or Normal Maps, so players with little time for the game can rack up more points before an event ends? Took this idea from another game I play.
velvet adder
Saratoga and Portaland constantly use the -chan suffix.
lost palm
@south sequoia agree. I pretty happy on little bel. You guys change it from belette. Thats good. Now do it for cleaveland sandiego and helena too. Thats all i ask
tawdry hill
Yeah that's the feeling I'm getting from all this too
A shame, because i thought the en server would simply be the game but in english.
Turns out that's not the case and I'm really starting to regret not playing on jp and spending money here
south sequoia
@lost palm Your feedback is noted. Whether or not it will be changed is a different matter
minor robin
@velvet adder In their actual voicelines yes, not the actual translated text.
harsh oasis
I've never heard anyone implement 'lad' into someone's name before...I wouldn't exactly call that culturally appropriate. I say let people who love a character so much their oath them can feel free to give them a nickname, but the default name should just be normal and meme-free.
south sequoia
The actual devs, the yellow named staff here, and not the localisation team, have the final say.
lost palm
@south sequoia they set their own rules. They should keep that rules. Lad isnt american thats british
south sequoia
@lost palm read what I just wrote
lost palm
Okay. Thx
formal oyster
Or maybe their own rule on names is the lack of rule and doing what they see fit ?
turbid loom
to be fair, I have heard people refer to their son as "lad," specifically my grandfather was always called "young lad" by his father, but this is both rural speak and it was nearly 60 years ago
minor robin
Let's avoid pointless speculation on what the localisation team does.
Also can we cut this discussion
nova dragon
Clevelad is a good name why tf are yall hating on it
minor robin
People are entitled to their opinions
nova dragon
bad opinions
harsh oasis
@nova dragon It is a good NICKNAME but not a good default name, if you catch my drift
minor robin
Ok stop.
minor robin
No one here is in ANY position to decide whose opinions are bad and what not.
Leave your feedback here, avoid any unnecessary discussion and move on.
Make it easier for all of us.
nova dragon
the real reason im here tho is cause, the D3 reqs changes apparently. Is there a reason for this or was it just to make it harder to get into for no reason?
With this increase in requirements was the horrible clearing mode nerf changed or is clearing mode still shit?
minor robin
It has been reported as a bug no worries
south sequoia
This means you leave ONE comment on your feedback and no more answering other users or addressing anyone not a discord staff member.
naive cobalt
@nova dragon I think it was already fixed
At least someone said it was
nova dragon
lemme check one sec
regal elm
I'm just gonna ask, is my suggestion heard by mod here? the one related to "Last Spurt"
minor robin
I've heard conflicting reports
eager aspen
It has been for SOME ppl, still bugged for me
south sequoia
There was a small patch on restart
minor robin
@regal elm yes i saw it will add it later
regal elm
okay, thanks for clarifying
nova dragon
ye it was fixed for me, sweet ty
eager aspen
Still hasnt been fixed for me tho
wheat saddle
@south sequoia Hello Syanda, i like what you pointed out in your post above, since you have a direct link with the staff could you help to check or suggest if there is a way for them to find representation for the more serious players.
I don't want to phrase this in an offensive or poor manner, but if i were to put it bluntly in general, reddit, 4chan and this ALO discord community comprises of a large amount of people and with that comes lower average quality and a large number of shitposts, i think we can agree these particular areas of the internet are not where you would choose to hold well informed objective discussions. As such, many more serious players(including me) have our own smaller private discords which leads to situations where i believe our own concerns aren't being seen usually.
Only when updates are handled poorly like in this instance i'm inclined to drop by the official server to make sure my feedback is heard, do you think we should just establish a more direct communication between people like me and the staff?
nova dragon
have you tried restarting, Moon?
eager aspen
Yes, I've had 2 updates so far
after the initial one ofc
minor robin
The staff have actually been backreading this channel to my knowledge
void yoke
Could you ask one of the staff to drop a single line in here, not answering to anything, just showing that they actually do read this channel? I have a hard time believing that anything here is being read or forwarded when this channel is constantly flooded with the same kind of complaints and then it just happens again with the next patch and we are back to zero, with no indication that anything from here was even heard at all (even if it was then discarded as irrelevant).
ornate basin
you already have a more direct way to contact staff
minor robin
@void yoke We have asked them actually
I'm not actually sure if i can share what they replied
ornate basin
ask first
minor robin
So i'll hold my tongue (actually finger might be better)
harsh oasis
The thing about discord is that it feels very informal. I'd feel much more comfortable being given an email address or perhaps some sort of support ticket system to fill in so I can properly construct complaints/criticism.
sturdy rapids
its just the same complaints/rants the past day regarding the tl and whether or not staff do read this. So it'd be nice if they leave at least one message regarding
regal elm
@minor robin tell me when the card is added, iydm 
south sequoia
@wheat saddle The staff has confirmed to us that they read this channel and everything in it. They are currently considering the criticism on nickname feedback.
wise gulch
You can't share whether they said "yes we read the channel" or "no we don't read it and don't care"? That's... weird?
velvet adder
@ornate basin We've been specifically told by @minor robin and @south sequoia to not mail staff directly, which I assume is what you meant by your post.
minor robin
They have been reading this channel, that I can say
eager aspen
They confirmed it was being read, simply not what the answer to the complaints is
minor robin
Whether they intend to say anything, I am in no position to make claims of what they intend to do
final cape
Why? It’s a customer service email? If you pay money into the game you can and should contact staff through any means you like 😃
ornate basin
besides, feedback assistants are relaying all this feedback directly to staff, them reading this channel is really as direct as it can get
we do not want you to send emails to them, their email is for serious purchase issues or other things that need attention that arent complaints or feedback
minor robin
Syanda seems to have said it anyways
sturdy rapids
they dont even need to say anything concrete. Just go "we've heard the feedback regarding the translation team and are looking into it" because apparently people dont trust the mods
harsh oasis
@south sequoia Actually, do you know if discord has an option to limit channel posts to x number of characters? If it does it would be cool to have a channel that only allows long comments to limit back and forth conversations/shitposting.
naive cobalt
It doesn't
south sequoia
If you need something more formal, write out your criticism, complaints and issues on a Word document and simply attach it here.
ornate basin
its 2k characters
south sequoia
Discord can support attachment of word and pdf files.
wary smelt
Collect All should have a Confirm, because I accidentally collect everything from my mission while attempting to press the Home button
formal oyster
Some issues don't require a big post to be reported.
sour monolith
I think there is an issue with public vs private feedback, that's why some people resort to sending out mails instead
ornate basin
regardless, please dont
just because you have an issue with it, you all know customer support is very loaded
so please refrain from sending an email, as we’ve told you staff are aware of everyones’ concerns
velvet adder
I have absolutely no reason to trust anything moderation team says about them forwarding any feedback to Staff, or it being read by them directly from here. As no proof of such an action occurring has been provided, I don't see why moderators are attempting to stop people from sending their feedback through mail.
pliant kestrel
look pins
eager aspen
Because that email is not meant for feedback
velvet adder
Clogged up backlog of unread emails is hardly a good reason
ornate basin
as blatant and direct as moon said
ashen isle
we still have no proof that our feedback is being read though, and it doesnt say anywhere that their email is for "serious purchase problems" anyway
final cape
People get banned, muted, have given feedback on this issue multiple times for nothing to change, I completely understand why they’re frustrated and use the email. Especially when you’ve sunk $100, $200, $500, more into the game. Who’s to say your issues aren’t ‘serious’?
wary smelt
yeah, might as well be spam to tech people
regal elm
you're getting muted because you were told to stop, but continues anyway. that's another thing.
naive cobalt
People get banned, muted, have given feedback on this issue multiple times for nothing to change no, they were temporarily muted for trying to incite arguments after being told numerous times to stop
azure sable
This is starting to feel a lot like arguing with a corner policeman that you don't like the laws in your county.
naive cobalt
and noone was banned wtf
final cape
In the past? Sure. This isn’t the only time this has happened
formal oyster
Why would your feedback not be read in the first place. Whether it's being deemed relevant or not is another thing.
naive cobalt
Staff wouldn't have this channel if they wanted to avoid feedback
We win nothing by keeping your feedback a secret
velvet adder
What place is meant for feedback then? As already stated, there's enough reasons to put things that moderation team says into question, so this place clearly wont cut. Literally the only reasonable place to do so is to either message them directly through social media or via email, which we're apparently not allowed to do.
naive cobalt
The only reason we "keeping you from using email" is because same emails is used for purchase issues
regal elm
also, giving feedback is one thing, starting a banter and just keep attacking mods and staff that they can't be trusted is another thing.
eager aspen
This place is meant for Feedback not endless rambling about known complaints
ornate basin
I am not in the moderation team, do you suddenly believe my words? this logic doesnt make sense and this is a genuine question
sorry for the offtopic
wise gulch
To play devil's advocate: Because some people might assume that the moderators would want to protect the EN translator team and thus only pretend to forward all the complaints about the translation while actually not doing so
naive cobalt
So flooding them with emails about issues they know about will just make it harder to solve problems for people who actually need help
turbid loom
there are many companies out there that provide a means of giving feedback, but then purposely avoid it. how are we , as customers, supposed to trust that this isn't that in another form
naive cobalt
I don't have any stake with translation team
shy burrow
I didn't know emailing is only supposed to be for purchase issues since the game's website just mentions "Contact Us" without any reference what it is for...
azure sable
Jumping rungs to go straight to the top to give feedback is very dramatic in movies, but in real life it gets the feedback ignored and makes the higher ups angry that they're allowing this type of feedback at all. I saw an intern get fired for emailing a director about his boss's sick time.
wise gulch
Normal players don't know that, they might as well assume you're all buddies
naive cobalt
I was recruited to moderate this server by game's staff, not by translators
So I'm directing all the feedback to them
opal lynx
Hm, question: When will we be able to select our gender on the vow screen? I remember seeing groom there once, but now it's just commander. It would be nice to select in the future so I can be a bride rather than just a catch-all term.
naive cobalt
there are many companies out there that provide a means of giving feedback, but then purposely avoid it. they would do the same with email in that case, if that what they wanted
velvet adder
This does not answer my question. What place am I allowed to send feedback to and make sure it's being heard? I cannot trust that feedback is being forwarded to staff from this place so I require a different place to do so.
regal elm
This place
naive cobalt
It's not being "forwarded", they directly read it themselves
They open the channel
And read all the comments
velvet adder
I see no reason to believe in anything you've just said. Can you please answer my question?
bitter rune
I feel like people are blowing this "genderless shikikan" thing out of the water. Nothing wrong with how things are now and I hope staff keep it as is. That's my feedback
regal elm
again, giving feedback here is one thing, starting a banter here and just flood the channel by attacking mods and staff is another thing.
turbid loom
@naive cobalt They could do it with everything, but at least with email there is no middleman.
azure sable
If you don't believe what he says then why would you believe the answer to your question?
formal oyster
This is getting really ridiculous 
Good luck mods, and have a nice day everyone 
wary smelt
why do you not trust the moderator? 
versed saddle
Well if they do read it it's sure that they've read complaints about meme translations before. But it looks like nothing changed since then.
So probably means they won't care this time as well huh.
eager aspen
They read the feedback, what they do with it is up to them
naive cobalt
if you asking is there a place to send your feedback instead - yes, there's email
I can ask you not to do it
Since purchase problems
wise gulch
I think much of this could be solved by a simple tweet on the official AL account saying "We got all the feedback regarding the EN translation as of late, we will look into it"
naive cobalt
But I can't force you
opal lynx
I mean, it'd be nice to give choices just on the vow screen. You can be genderless, male, or female and it'd reflect that in each promise page. It was annoying when it was just "Groom" but I feel like commander doesn't really fix the problem either. I think it'd be nice for everyone to get their representation.
ornate basin
please dont do it
gender options has been suggested I believe, let me find the card
velvet adder
Thank you, that's exactly what I wanted to know. I kindly ask you to not engage in actions that may be read by less certain in their actions users as you not allowing them to do it.
mint lake
i seriously dont get it
azure sable
I feel adding a few gender options would open up a whole new can of worms, given how gender and identification is being treated these days.
opal lynx
Just keep commander, but add in bride and groom as well. It wouldn't be a can of worms, I feel.
ornate basin
https://trello.com/c/C2cEPdi4 @opal lynx
naive cobalt
It wasn't attempt at preventing people from using it, sorry if it seemed that way
minor robin
I'm going to make this very clear right now.
The moderators do not gain anything from censoring or filtering any feedback that goes through this channel. It only serves to jeopardise our position and yours.
If you do not believe when we said the staff read this channel, then we cannot force you to believe us. Believe what you will. If you wish to escalate this issue to them directly, we cannot stop you. But we strongly advise you not to.
harsh oasis
I believe what we need in AL is more options. Let people pick and choose what they want, commander gender is perfectly fine as an option, and I'd like an option to allow/disallow meme translations for ship names at least. Just put a little option in the options menu and it would keep everyone happy.
sour monolith
@azure sable It already opened a can of worms when they neutralized SKK's gender in the certificate
velvet adder
for any questions? is it okay if i ask them about tomorrows weather?
opal lynx
Thank you, Kawa!
wary smelt
A feedback I had a while back, can the Collect All in Missions have a Confirm message? I accidentally pressed on it while pressing the Home button right next to it.
bitter rune
I'm really hoping that people dont think that "not getting results immediately" = staff didnt read
azure sable
I'm curious as to the danger of getting all the rewards to need a confirm.
turbid loom
I think this time, the problem (with the names at least) is that these concerns have been voiced before (a few times at this point)
wary smelt
In my case, I had a few bulin I want to keep in mission because I want to save dock slots
naive cobalt
Sure, lemme add it
wary smelt
instead, I ended up collecting all the weekly mission rewards
sturdy rapids
fair point, have it with the dont remind me again option too
late mantle
yeah, that would be nice 
i'd like to have that feature too, accidentally clicked it once, my dock immediately fulled
wary smelt
thank you!
velvet adder
Just buy more gems for dock slots
Can we get another vote for the "please let people remove specific loading screens" request?
regal elm
I'd vote for it
velvet adder
The paedo brigade really likes their cameltoe U556, I see
wary smelt
I'm already up to 240 from 150, so yeah, I might actually have to spend more money 
wise gulch
It would be nice to not show a few loading screens while playing in public. Maybe make it a setting?
regal elm
that's the point
shell bramble
There's a card for it
wary smelt
I proudly play my onsen loading screen in the open
velvet adder
@velvet adder How is accusing of people being pedophiles game feedback?
honest rune
Show the map (Like the node map in the wiki) after you completed at 3 star or safe
shell bramble
https://trello.com/c/l1WdLybr/416-disable-or-allow-players-to-select-loading-screens if ya'll want to get an account & upvote it more
final cape
If you’re calling us paedos, the fuck are you doing playing the game lol
regal elm
for the adult ship 
naive cobalt
Please don't start another stupid needless argument
velvet adder
Do I really need an account?
naive cobalt
You can use google, pretty sure
shell bramble
velvet adder
Yeah, let's see if it works
shell bramble
Okay, you can sign up with google, but still need an account Trello recognizes in order to dissuade anon vote brigading
azure sable
How does this trello thing work in the context of AL feedback? Does upvoting it actually mean anything as far as devs looking at priorities and feedback?
naive cobalt
That thing only devs can tell you
shell bramble
It's another feedback point for them to consider when prioritizing bugs to fix (for the bug board) or features to implement. Their exact metric / criteria would be a mystery to us, though.
azure sable
Yeah, I suppose the answer would be something like "We take everything into account"
regal elm
Added my vote for loading screen options
wary smelt
question on trello, the priority labels there marks what the devs considered their priority?
naive cobalt
No
shell bramble
In the same way that Syanda posted before, yeah, it's another avenue amongst other social media platforms. This one is a bit more technically oriented though, and would allow to see a slightly more... I guess numeric evaluation of a concern, as someone cared enough to go out of their way, register, and then upvote (or downvote?) something they're opinionated on
velvet adder
Alright, voted
wary smelt
I like Trello, at least it is clearer to see what other feedback out there.
sour monolith
though there are extremely old stuff there that's still not moved to fixed
sour monolith
I think black font is a bit hard to read, should be fine with white really
harsh oasis
Or lighter blue with black text
velvet adder
Whatever works, just fix the contrast. My eyes, they bleed
formal oyster
For the exclamation point mark thing, was the Dorm one ( for when food storage is empty ) also taken into account ? Wasn't there before and it's also kind of annoying since I always think it's a ship finding tokens or wanting an affection pat.
regal elm
empty food storage isn't part of the <!> afaik
eager aspen
I wish it was tbh
formal oyster
Well I do have it even when I have no affection or tokens to collect.
regal elm
we only get notif when the storage is empty, but not <!>
eager aspen
Are u sure you dont have any ships hiding behind furniture
formal oyster
Hold on, I'll screenshot it
azure sable
Sometimes I go into dorm and nobody has a token or heart, but then I go in again and they have one. Its weird.
stone marsh
extend roark skin sale till 25? please take my money?
shell bramble
Did you disable the game option to not notify for that?
formal oyster
I checked and there is no such option
velvet adder
Stop starving ur shipfus, problem solved
regal elm
nothing wrong with having just 4 slots
might be a new thing, but I can't confirm for the next two-and-a-half hours
eager aspen
I haven't been getting any notifs
formal oyster
Yeah there's nothing wrong but I mention it because we only see 4 ships on the screen so people might think "heh you forgot one " ( And no I'm not taking the "4/4" into account since it has been established that EN can't read )
shell bramble
Yeah, you right, they removed that option
formal oyster
@velvet adder Give me infinite food and I'll gladly feed them 24/24
velvet adder
Couple suggestions: The way the “new” chat filter works you can’t even say words like “Japan” or “Newest”. Why is “ewe” censored anyway?
Also the page indicators for events get blocked by the “Battle - Anchor Away” button
regal elm
idk about ewe, but Japan one is understandable, pertaining to the first three words
I mean, yeah, the censoring needs tweaking, but...
velvet adder
God forbid we shorten the word japanese in 40 character chat
eager aspen
The overlap with the event banners and the "Battle" button is very small tbh
velvet adder
Obviously
regal elm
someone said it was deliberately designed that way, but... idk if that's true
formal oyster
Sounds weird if it was
sturdy rapids
idk if its been suggested, but if a ship is in the dorm 1st floor and another ship is in the 2nd floor make it possible so you can change them without having to remove one or the other first.
rare jay
Yepp it has been. Card for reference: https://trello.com/c/zTa0exXT/459-change-which-dorm-level-shipgirls-are-on
velvet adder
Is there a vote or anything for changing the chat font color? It’s a common complaint and every time i’ve seen it brought up I’ve seen no real response.
shell bramble
Doesn't immediately look like there's a card for that
rare jay
I do have a card going for some stuff about it but not a general one
sturdy rapids
oh, apparnetly i already voted on that suggestion. 
velvet adder
I know graphical errors/ bugs/ nitpicks aren’t a priority but I hope it’s noted. It’s stupidly unpleasant to look at.
naive cobalt
ye ye, some things in UI were changing with patches and fixes, so I was holding on collecting feedback in case it gets addressed
formal oyster
Some of those issues have been fixed in the past and are still being fixed so I don't think they're negligent about it. "Low priority" may just means that it doesn't require a lot of work to fix.
shell bramble
Yeah, I find it interesting it's using "Priority" and not, say, "Impact"
dreamy loom
if it looks ugly, but doesn't break the game, it will probably be worked on their spare time XD
velvet adder
probably
modest basalt
Can there be a option to hide the loading screen wallpapers when playing the game in public 
shell bramble
There's a card for that already
regal elm
yes there is a card for that.
formal oyster
modest basalt
Tyyy my only other feedback is, on apple ipad’s the images or position of ui elements in the home screen or loading screens are FAR too close or zoomed.
rare jay
@modest basalt Yeah, the cropping issue is known
modest basalt
Ahhh i see ty very much hope it gets fixed soon
shell bramble
Feedback, that might be valid as I don't think it's EN specific: While the Wishing Well is appreciated, introducing new ships into a permanent pool at the same time you can select that pool for wishing well can cause confusion for players, who think that the new ships would be available in the wishing well even though they can't get a rateup (for instance, players thinking they can get Lena/Clevelad if they chose Light wishing well, even if they understand they can't rate-up those ships).
I understand EN can't read and even until yesterday I thought things like Monty would still be in the pool, even if I couldn't rate up her
robust cairn
The download bar should really show total progress, and not individual file progress, because I and other players have no idea how big each file is.
Also I really don't care about what I assume are md5 hashes of each file. 
shy pond
I have an idea for the event shipbuilding. If you receive an event ship, halve its chance of appearance in the future, but increase the chances for the other ones to appear accordingly. when you have all, reset the chances
hardy nymph
What if you could just do 3 of whatever daily you wanted? Uh... of the ones only available during certain days of the week, I mean.
ember goblet
An option to disable particle effects like the floating oath hearts or the sparkle on Bismarcks new skin would be appreciated. I feel both stacking is a little too much.
high dome
People are wanting to know if staff reads feedback.
The answer is yes.
Two days ago i received a message from the very top about my future employment based entirely on the messages written here in feedback. They absolutely do read it.
Please do not send feedback to the customer support email, especially at this time, as many many people are currently having problems with purchased gems not being delivered, and they are required to process every email they receive. The same complaint flooding the email slows everything down signifcantly.
shy pond
Just a quickie. Could someone add my suggestion above to the safety net trello card?
naive cobalt
Sure, one sec
shy pond
The reason for me again going down that rabbit hole is the hunt for U73 this event....
100+ cubes, 3 KGVs and 3 Biskos... No U73
That is where that idea came in
naive cobalt
@robust cairn https://trello.com/c/PBodvqz5/654-download-bar-clarity
@ember goblet https://trello.com/c/4VmLiWkr/655-option-to-reduce-particle-effects
@hardy nymph that would be highly unbalanced if you could just do %whatever you need% commissions every day. There's reason why they're specific daily locked.
shell bramble
Yo Restart, does mine qualify for a writeup or does it fall under one of the "Not accepting at this time" categories?
naive cobalt
I mean, I don't exactly understand what is the suggestion?
"Don't add ships to pool while Wishing Well is in progress"?
shell bramble
Correct
drifting zealot
A small idea.
Perghaps consider a event to get Admiral Graf Spee again.
She is the only ship that got a new skin, that is not obtainable at the moment (I hope I did not forget one ^^).
This can make her skin dropping from the 29,99 pack feel disapointing.
naive cobalt
We have no idea if it even going to be rerun and if anything - problem is in not clarifying what it does more than anything
shell bramble
Fair enough
naive cobalt
Spee will be added to permanent pool
drifting zealot
Ah, okay, thats great to hear.
shell bramble
Did that happen for JP already? Huh, guess it did.
hardy nymph
@naive cobalt can I ask why it would be?
naive cobalt
Because There's reason why they're specific daily locked.
hollow ember
naive cobalt
Being able to do them at any day means you're able to get disproportionate amount of books/boxes/plates depending what you need, so it'll need to come with some nerf to drops
When you opening ship that reached 100 lvl for the first time, game explains how to do it
sour tulip
It didn't for me.
shell bramble
I think they're posting the screenshot for the following suggestion: "The functionality to Awaken a ship (go above level 100) makes more sense to be in the Enhance menu"
sour tulip
Yeah when I saw the prompt was a small glowing 'Awakening' thing I felt it was a little bit hidden.
naive cobalt
But levels are on Details tab, not Enhance
Even limit break screen makes more sense
sour tulip
Yes, limit break was the first place I checked and where I assumed it would be.
hollow ember
either of those, but i wouldn't expect Details to have a function other than details.
sour tulip
Yeah I just use the details screen as the gear tab
hollow ember
neat, thanks for bringing it up restart 
sour tulip
I think a good place to put it would be where it says "Max Level [Confirm]"
hardy nymph
I was just seeing it from a standpoint that 2/3rds of the time you cant choose to get what you want from dailies, but I understand your point.
night jasper
@high dome Well, that's good to know, but I still stand by what I said yesterday and all this stink slowing down staff just proves the point. Staff could be working on issues that actually matter, and players could be providing feedback to help fix stuff like technical issues, typos, missing dialogs, bad grammar, you name it. But no, instead of following the safe path and provide high quality translations, every patch must come with controversial non-sense that serve no purpose other than inviting complaints and diversion from actual issues. This isn't the first time and it won't be the last, every two/three weeks it's the same thing. By the time anything gets fixed if at all, events are already more than halfways done, rinse and repeat. My suggestion? Localize source material in a way that makes sense and stop adding personal interpretation that the devs didn't envision.
eager aspen
stop adding personal interpretation that the devs didn't envision.
The devs are the one with the final say in such matters tho
sour monolith
The devs can barely read english which is likely so it's hard for them to know when fanfic tier rewrites are happening except when there is an obvious backlash.
celest abyss
Akagi-chan and Hiei-chan kept -chan in EN precisely because the devs said so
velvet adder
Who do I contact for translation complaints?
eager basin
DM ALO when you get tired of arguing with the mods about translation complaints.
shell bramble
If you want to express dissatisfaction with large chunks of translation, place your feedback here and move on. If you found something that was erroneously translated (Grammar problems, still using Asian characters, etc.) check with #bug-reports
celest abyss
Also, localisation is necessarily going to change cultural references because culture is different between different regions, regarding the lines in events
velvet adder
Might as well leave this here when nobody responds to e-mails.
eager aspen
Because the mails are flooded as mentioned and not meant for Feedback
also ppl do infact sleep
celest abyss
Mails are taking 3-5 business days to respond to actual support requests because flood
shell bramble
I think they said it's up to 8 now
celest abyss
Oof, wasn't aware of that, but yes, very flooded
somber rain
I wanna suggest change "Lena" to - Little Helena (or even smoll Hel). IDK maybe it's just me, but to me the name just seems silly
celest abyss
(also for perspective: business days are Monday through Friday, no Saturday or Sunday
Apologies to those of you who know this, mentioning it because a surprising number people don't appear to know that)
velvet adder
its not really a big issue but in my humble opinion, "li'l sandy" would read much more naturally if she was called "Lil' Sandy" with the ' at the end of Lil maybe its already been suggested
i realise that it was probably put there because the middle bit of "little" is shortened but for this one its always at the end..
sage cliff
why not little for every of the loli ships. lil or li'l isnt good sandy is no soundcloud rapper
velvet adder
lil' is fine it fits her cute style but it just looks wierd with the apostrophe in the middle of the word
somber rain
I want to suggest 2 things:
1 - Change Lena to little Helena . IDK maybe it's just me, but the name seems goofyish.
2 - I would like these loli ships past, current ones and possibly future ones, to NOT count towards collection %.
Reason being they are basically the SAME ship, only in it's younger version of themselves.
naive cobalt
Actually surprised they do, since they don't count for fleet tech
somber rain
exactly, i even asked that one time about Fleet tech
eager aspen
I mean atleast they are permanent additions
naive cobalt
velvet adder
yea if theyre permanent build pool i dont see a problem with counting to collection % personally
somber rain
True, though it just bizarre if they don't count towards Fleet Tech, why would they count towards collection % . Cause again it's the same ship, just a younger age
velvet adder
they arent fully grown yet 
somber rain
ok that was a good answer, ill give you that
late pecan
I'm content with the names. I'm not going to use them a lot and I'm not uppity in arms enought to go to oath them to change them.
I hope the translation team continues their good work and I'm glad we dont have jokes and references to pop culture only the Japanese would understand in our events and secretary missions from ALJP.
drifting agate
Don't know if I'd say it's been good lately, I mean there were even scenes in chinese in the KMS event
mellow gyro
shell bramble
Bear in mind that "How the TL decided to localize content" and "Quality Checking the interface & translated lines" are somewhat separate subjects, both of which are available for feedback
ornate basin
@velvet adder you do not contact anyone specifically, thank you for leaving your feedback here as intended
just because some lines are left untranslated doesnt mean its the translators' fault @drifting agate
@somber rain @velvet adder I believe they do count towards collection %, just not fleet tech
versed saddle
@late pecan uhh they translate from CN from what I know... and cleveland being boyish is a reference that came from the chinese as well....
frigid shadow
how is leaving things untranslated not explicitly the translators fault?
also i'm going to add to the general consensus that "clevelad" and big brother bismarck are bad and the translation team are testing their bounds to see how far off the script they can actually go without punishment
eager aspen
Why would they translate from CN if the EN server is based of the JP version
shell bramble
Because the translators will not be the people typing text directly into the game's files, generally
versed saddle
@eager aspen Translators are actually CN > EN if you just knew
drifting agate
It's not just that, the interaction between Belfap and Scharnhorst during Winter's Crown was just painful for example
frigid shadow
it was remarkably out of place, so was the pillar man reference
ornate basin
regardless, untranslated text is still not the translator's fault (as we know)
velvet adder
im sorry but
ornate basin
so this will not be used as an argument
frigid shadow
i don't really care which form of "lil" is used, it looks out of place in the dorm and should be little sandy or sandy-chan or something
ornate basin
please just state your feedback and move on, we do not need people constantly attacking the translators
the staff are fully aware of all concerns left here, so arguing the same points over and over again are not going to help
tidal pulsar
I suggest to use the honorific "-chan" to every small version of the botes since we already have no Japanese ships use honorifics without problems like Saratoga and Portland, using the nationality as a excuse to change their names makes no sense, thanks
velvet adder
People stating that they find the translation lacking is not "constantly attacking the translators". The fact that multiples of such statement appear should only showcase the severity of the situation.
shell bramble
And it has been made available for the devs to consider.
velvet adder
But this is not a place to question the reasoning behind complains so ill move back for now
eager aspen
The problem is that many of those people keep coming back with the same complaints
velvet adder
I'd like the Ability to toggle the 'loading' bar to not see it at all so I can view loading screens in their entirety during loading.
i like the little whines~ and Nyaas~ all over, id be quite sad if they were taken out
versed saddle
The root cause points out to sloppy translation. No big of a drama would ensue if things were alright 👌
velvet adder
i mean this isnt a triple A game, you cant reasonably expect perfection
bitter rune
Sorry I mean, I hope they fix Lil, that's a weird apostrophe honestly
frigid shadow
if translation complaints aren't addressed quickly enough it'll start boiling over until this happens, saying to people not to vent their complaints because too many people are doing it and discussing why isn't going to make them stop complaining
naive cobalt
Ahem
I will repeat myself again before people start complaining about me "shutting down feedback"
Arguing with others is not "feedback"
somber rain
@ornate basin i am aware they do count towards collection %, my point was that i'd like it if they didn't count, for consistency. Not a major deal, just something i'd like it to be changed (if it's not i'm ok with it anyways )
naive cobalt
Rallying people to spam email is not "feedback"
Coming back like for the 10th time to repeat same point is not it as well.
Please, if you want your feedback to be addressed - be civil
It's easy to listen to reasonable people who want to be heard
Not with mob, that just here to rant and complain for the sake of it
versed saddle
Granted that feedback was already sent here before weeks back but it seems like nothing improved at all. Which is probably why people started taking the matters privately
naive cobalt
And all of it was heard
main fractal
uh huh
ornate basin
people complained mostly about -chan and not much else
velvet adder
I'll just give my two cents, would it be possible to make another email for the feedbacks so people who have something to say, can give feedback privately. I don't really care but maybe people would calm down
ornate basin
another email was shut down personally
Ive contacted staff about it, and they said no
versed saddle
Especially when some people aren't arsed to put their own feedback in public boards because they didn't want arguing with people
ornate basin
this channel exists for a reason, writing emails is only going to take up the staff's time, when we have this channel right here that is directly read by staff
naive cobalt
I know it may seem like
velvet adder
Maybe they should consider hiring more people
turbid loom
but doesn't reading it here also take up the time of the staff
versed saddle
It takes the same time if not maybe even longer to read here than to sift through mails.
naive cobalt
We left feedback -> nothing changed -> nothing will ever change -> no point leaving feedback
But that's not how it works
All feedback is being read and considered, but they can't realistically react to each single complaint and piece of feedback
turbid loom
Restart, the situation is currently Feedback was given, nothing happened, the same feedback was given again over the same type of issue, nothing happened, and now its happening again
versed saddle
Several people left feedback many times already in the past weeks/months and felt like it was left unheard of when things didn't improve
naive cobalt
So I ask you again, before you start complaining about shutting down feedback with mutes - be civil, this is not place for arguing with each other
ornate basin
@velvet adder why dont you go work there? they would sure love another member
regardless, it taking time from them is also why feedback assistants exist, we read this channel and we compile feedback to give to them, specifically repeated points
the staff do read this channel, but we try to make it easier for them
frigid shadow
They don't need to personally react to every single person but it would help alleviate the shitstorm if the official twitter or one of the staff would actually post and say "we see the TL complaints and are looking into it"
robust cairn
Since I think this is a better chat for this than bug reports
This makes it sound like I'm downloading multiple 60 mb files
Not files totalling 60 MB
cursive wasp
The problem is that it feels like feedback doesn't go anywhere but back to the same translation team that replies by inserting snide self-justifying fanfic content
naive cobalt
That I can't comment on. For now instructions were to let people continue giving their feedback
frigid shadow
The mods here aren't staff, you might be a point of contact but it's unofficial and chinese whispers.
velvet adder
@ornate basin I'd gladly work there but I live in Europe and don't speak chinese. Not sure if you took my words offensively. Sorry