game-feedback

[raven crater]

@fluid hinge PC version is not going to happen. While it doesn't work in battle, pressing and holding on the ship chibi in the formation screen or on their icon in the hard mode ship selector will let you view their details screen.

There's a pinned document of guild suggestions in this channel, also sort of in line with co-op PVE mission.

As Kawaakari mentioned, many retrofits are based on historical context, so I don't think every ship needs a retrofit. Plus, even older ships are perfectly useable for PVE as long as they're appropriately leveled. But at any rate, I think that's beyond the scope of this channel, since it's really something that JP/CN would need to start implementing before we get it.

I think google authentication is coming eventually, as is a proprietary "yostar login" system, but I have no idea when.

As far as PVP goes, someone suggested restricted PVP brackets sort of like "hard mode" PVP. That's going to be the best way to create different PVP metas, but you'll just have several best teams as opposed to one. It's the nature of "metagame" that once people find the most powerful composition for a set of conditions, that's what everyone will use until new ships are added.

[tardy arch]

told ya that's how meta worked.

[fluid hinge]

Ya it looks like yostar is still a baby. If they continue to bring out more games, then they will likely (and should) get a yostar login.

Ya, I didn't expect the PC thing to be implemented as that is a lot of extra development at this point.

[tardy arch]

also yes google binding is in the works. not sure how they go about it but they have a google dev page now so.

[fluid hinge]

It's doesn't have to be the exact retro fit, but an additional way to enhance the ships stats and abilities (similar to what retro fitting is).

[raven crater]

Well, we'll get cognition awakening and obviously there's an enhancement system already

Level is the single most important factor when it comes to ship power in PVE

[fluid hinge]

PvE isn't what I'm concerned with. It's PvP which will keep players playing LT.

[raven crater]

LT?

[fluid hinge]

Long Term

[raven crater]

I'm going to have to hard disagree with you there

[ornate basin]

thats what I said, a mechanic to better your ships, but it would throw everything off balance imo

[fluid hinge]

And as for these types of games they only survive when people have to continue grinding and collecting. This requires new characters, skins, and/or powers to continue. Now since they are staying with WW2 ships, unless they start expand to others eras (which I hope they don't) or just create fake "aliens" ships , they will run out of viable ships to create.

Excluding that, they really have 2 LT options.

Create remakes of all the ships with new art work and higher stats (forcing both collectors and competitors to get).
Allow each ship be able to upgrade in a rotating schedule along with releases of new skins.

I'm merely stating I prefer the latter option.

Correct you want to throw things out of balance so people have to change their teams.

It makes them have to play your game, and hopefully be more invested and spend more $.

[raven crater]

They have a lot of other things they need to do with PVP first

like, PVP is hardly the focus of the game right now

[tardy arch]

i don't give 2 shits about the pvp. unlike with mmo's or multiplayer shooters you just sit there and hope you win.

[fluid hinge]

Correct, it is still an infant game.

[tardy arch]

lol no. the game has been around for at least a year.

[raven crater]

I don't want the game to be PVP focused

[wary lodge]

If they thought about the Iowa class or the Yamato class, the game probably will probably spread like wildfire again

[raven crater]

I'd rather that they continue to add worlds, level caps, or even new PVE game modes and guild stuff than straight PVP stuff. Games that become PVP inevitably turn into who can spend the most money. I've seen it happen and it's miserable

[fluid hinge]

Once you finish the campaign, you have 2 options to continue playing. The achieve of 100% collection and the goal of rise in the PvP rankings.

[ornate basin]

their priority is events, not pvp

[fluid hinge]

I fully support events.

[wary lodge]

Same

[raven crater]

Or raise all ships to 100 affection, or level 100, or get a bunch of equipment, or accumulate cubes for future events, or any number of things

[fluid hinge]

But that will not keep your whole player base.

[raven crater]

I will 100% tell you that I will never, ever care about PVP. If I do have to care about PVP, it will always be a chore. PVP is annoying.

[tardy arch]

tbh having the game be pvp focused would kill the game. the pvp as it is now is boring and requires no higher brain function other than asking someone what the current meta is.

[fluid hinge]

Raising the level cap slowly over time (not all the ships at the same time) would also achieve the same goal I mentioned earlier.

[raven crater]

I've played a game that became more PVP prioritized and it just became an obligation

well, the level cap is going to increase

it goes to 120 in JP

[tardy arch]

and we'll be getting the 120 level cap later on anyways.

[fluid hinge]

But that'll be universal.

[jade surge]

a weekly rotation on the ships you can take (sometimes even blocking slots completely) would make pvp at least more interesting and also make it harder to actually figure out the meta for that rotation

[fluid hinge]

^ that is another option that I like less.

[raven crater]

Yeah, something like "hard mode pvp" would be neat, I'll agree with that.

I'm still not really sure what you want to achieve, Jurazic

[wary lodge]

Or guild wars

[fluid hinge]

Guild wars would be completely separate and great.

[jade surge]

do guilds even do anything right now? other than exist?

[raven crater]

They don't. A lot of people want their functionality to expand

[tardy arch]

that'd make me care even less about the pvp. not being able to use the same ships or ship slots would destroy what little interest i have in it.

[raven crater]

No, I don't think they should change PVP to that way, but add other "brackets" or something so that there MORE options (and maybe that give you more merit per battle) would be fine

[jade surge]

then it sounds like there needs to be more pvp incentive, tbh i havent touched pvp after i got 1 sodak and 1 eldridge

[raven crater]

so do normal PVP if you want, or the "hard mode" pvp if you want more of a challenge/more merit

Honestly though, one thing I love about AL is that PVP is basically completely optional late game

I would hate to see anything that makes it more required

[wary lodge]

I use enterprise, hornet and yorktown for my back line and been dominating since

[fluid hinge]

Honestly PvP should have gem prizes (small, but at least a bit).

I want no 1 team to be the best, until they make a power creeped new release.

[raven crater]

how do I delete other people's messages

Gem rewards for pvp would be terrible

[jade surge]

well yeah required pvp is bad but if they had better rewards, gems are a bit insane to put there, maybe they also need a rank requirement in order to buy them with merit

[raven crater]

I actually can delete people's messages in this channel

[tardy arch]

tbh adding something like brackets wouldn't do anything. if it gives more merit than people will only play the bracket (assuming there's no limit or the limit is shared) and the only thing that'\d be on the brackets is meta teams (the same as it is now) and there'd still be the same meta teams in the normal pvp so i don't see the point beyond getting more merit.

[raven crater]

No Lfire, hard mode brackets

basically PVP with restrictions

so you have more restrictive team building, but can get more merit

that's the tradeoff

[jade surge]

but having an actual reliable way to get gems, other than the rng of urgent comission, no matter how hard it is to get them and how little we actually get seems like a good idea to me

[tardy arch]

ok. now all we need is something to use merit on. otherwise i still won't give 2 shits and i definitely won't play brackets for more useless merit.

[jade surge]

@naive cobalt miss me with that disposable income shit

[raven crater]

I mean, if you ask me I don't think PVP needs to be changed, personally. I don't think PVP should be the focus of Azur Lane

[fluid hinge]

No all you need to do is allow only certain ships to be upgraded and release a new set every month (of the same ships already released). Then by the end of the year all the ships in the game could be maxxed, but then as the next round starts it would allow weaker ships to be upgraded and thus better until the other ships could catch up. Thus keeping people continuing to improve and change their teams while allowing your older teams from becoming completely obsolete (and thuse allowing more people to buy more skins).

[jade surge]

yeah it shouldnt be the focus but currently i dont even acknowledge its existence

[naive cobalt]

But a lot of people do care about pvp

[tardy arch]

some other use for merit is needed though. cause once you get eldridge and sodak that's it.

[raven crater]

I don't understand how to implement allow only certain ships to be upgraded and release a new set every month

[fluid hinge]

PvP is already pretty decent for a start, but needs to be adapted properly for the LT.

[tardy arch]

why does pvp have to be the thing that keeps the game going? why can't it stand on it's pve and collection side?

[fluid hinge]

Currently certain ships that would be useless get a retro announced and thus become good again.

[raven crater]

Well, I know some people do care about PVP, but I think PVP is fine the way it is where it's more for showing off and testing your meta knowledge as opposed to being a core part of the game. When you make PVP a core part of the game, it becomes more stressful because of the increased necessity of competition and therefore less enjoyable.

[fluid hinge]

It is on of the factors that keeps people playing. Not all people

But some. And it is important to keep more people playing.

[raven crater]

I mean, I'd be fine with every ship getting a retro for like... collection/fun reasons, as opposed to PVP. Though I suppose it's not historically accurate

[tardy arch]

ok so people will drop off over time once pve runs out. so? it's not like pvp is anything special.

[raven crater]

but not every retro is going to change up the PVP meta anyway

[fluid hinge]

Collectors, events, extended campaigners all are ways to keep people playing and should be used.

[jade surge]

pvp doesnt need to keep the game going, but rn players can completely ignore all pvp and there isnt a difference

[wary lodge]

Maybe when the anime comes out it will help

[raven crater]

And I like that, Fireclanleader

Azur Lane is wonderfully PVE is focused

[fluid hinge]

You can have good PvE and good PvP games.

[tardy arch]

pvp being the sole factor that keeps the game going after everything else just sounds sad. if the game is about to die let it die. don't try to keep it going through a useless pvp system.

[fluid hinge]

A single game can be good at both. Why suggest to have a bad and week PvP because you prefer PvE.

[jade surge]

yeah so maybe instead of using PVP to cause competition between players, there needs to be more leaderboard things

like earlier today when i mentioned a boss rush mode

[fluid hinge]

Just dont play the PvP if you dont like it. Dont suggest that people who are PvP focused leave the game

[raven crater]

Honestly, I think best long term thing would be for guild co-op PVE content

[fluid hinge]

^yes

[tardy arch]

you act like a leaderboard of any kind isn't inherently competitive.

[naive cobalt]

Pvp suggestions shouldn't be ignored because it's not main focus tho

[fluid hinge]

Hence I mentioned both. A leader board is fine, but likely wont be as effective.

[jade surge]

??? i was literally saying a leaderboard was competitive

[fluid hinge]

I'm not suggesting the game should be PvP focused, but it should use PvP to extend the life of the playerbase and create a better end game experience.

[naive cobalt]

It's too early for that tbh

[raven crater]

I think that before we can talk about using PVP to increase the longevity of the game, we have to discuss how to expand, modify, and balance PVP to make it a part of the game that is simultaneously fun without being a chore. The current PVP system is mindless at best. In order for PVP to be an effective long term draw there is a lot of work to do first before we start trying to give every ship a retrofit to keep PVP interesting.

[naive cobalt]

You don't need to think about how to live longer when you barely born

[fluid hinge]

It is a baby, but lets be real most changes by dev teams come at the beginning while they are still exciting. Might as well offer it up as a suggestion now.

[naive cobalt]

and we're so far from "end game"

[raven crater]

I don't think your suggestion is well formed enough to really be offered up, since there are a lot of predecessor suggestions that would need to be implemented before "give every ship a retro" is a viable solution for PVP longevity

[jade surge]

what if we made PvP more like PvE? where you fight some shipgirl minibosses and a final endboss that acts as the other player's defensive fleet?

[fluid hinge]

PvP is a refreshing change from the boss farming of PvE, I would like that less personally.

[jade surge]

like the defensive fleet is the minibosses and endboss that shows up

[raven crater]

A multiwave PVP would be interesting.

[fluid hinge]

I mean clans wars in that way would operate better.

[raven crater]

Hmm, this is a big conversation to have though. I think we might want to make a separate document for this, and also maybe find out how much Yostar is willing to revamp PVP in the first place

[tardy arch]

that would be pvevp. not pvp. also by the time the auto reaches the players fleet they'll have less health and their abilities would be on cooldown. it's pretty much a guaranteed loss at that point.

[ornate basin]

pvp is out of my scope (I never touch it) so my help ended after the binding options

[fluid hinge]

I mean PvP in this game is actually pretty decent considering the type of game it is, but just hoping to remains successful.

I could write up an example plan of my suggestion for the retro idea, but I wanted to leave it more broad, allowing for other functionally similar ideas could be discussed.

[jade surge]

no no @tardy arch like say you have a defensive fleet consisting of suffolk, z23, prince of wales, and enty, you would fight a single shipgirl and some generic production units, but that shipgirl would be suffolk, then the next wave would be z23 (and possibly the other vanguard) then the next would be prince of wales(and possibly the 3rd backline) and then the boss with multiple healthbars would be enty

that way its not just a laggy spam of 4 carriers and 2 battleships all firing and using their skill while two sets of scared vanguards await their demise

[tardy arch]

at that point it's not pvp. it's a player made boss rush. and it sounds so stacked in the other players favor that it's not even fair.

[fluid hinge]

That would be more effective in a guild war format that a PvP format.

[tardy arch]

though i guess that could be it's own thing. player made boss rushes sounds interesting. just not as a pvp idea.

[jade surge]

i mean at least it would be more variety than"count to 20 and then watch the planes and BB shells rain death on the vanguards, then start over counting"

[fluid hinge]

I think 2x speed on everything would be nice for PvP

[wary lodge]

I think the pvp that's set up right now is fine

[fluid hinge]

It can be slow to watch

[tardy arch]

i'm pretty sure 2x speed would be impossible. as auto is real time and not pre determined.

[fluid hinge]

It's not like you have to operate your fleet. You just put your phone down and do something else. Might as well speed that up.

[tardy arch]

actually nvm. there's a speed glitch for pve that speeds the game up. (don;t try it it's a waste of time) so maybe a 2x speed option is possible.

[fluid hinge]

It would be possible.

[jade surge]

the backlines do x2 when the vanguards die but since they dont move i think its programmed to only half their cooldown time

[tardy arch]

it'd depend if the ai could handle it really.
and ya more than likely.

[fluid hinge]

Ya, that would be the only question, but I doubt that'll be a big issue.

[tardy arch]

it'd also depend on if your phone could handle the intense processing speed.

[jade surge]

the ai can handle it, theres probably alot of processing time to spare for movement, but the graphics are the real problem

and once the planes hit, the lag would be awful

[tardy arch]

cause the game lags like shit already. now imagine that at 2x speed. the poor thing would probably crash.

[jade surge]

yeah and my phone is pretty beefy but it still lags just from the amount of stuff

[tardy arch]

same for me.

[ornate basin]

not me

[jade surge]

maybe make a quality setting? for phones that arent as powerful?

[ornate basin]

that would play into UI though wouldnt it

[naive cobalt]

not really

and was suggested anyway

[jade surge]

ah i forgot to check the suggestions

[tardy arch]

a quality setting would go under graphics. (and technically ui since you'd need to make the button for it)

[balmy fern]

Honestly if they could update the merit shop with Skillbooks and foodstuffs instead of it being 80% T1/2/3 techboxes then it would insentify people atleast to play to get those rewards but i believe this was already suggested

I just wanted to add to the conversation

Also can we update the daily 'enhance ship 1 time' mission to have a weekly 'clear daily mission 'enhance ship 1 time' 5 times' with the reward being 1 random T4 techboxs

Because currently its the most skipable mission and least beneficial mission to do, even the 'enhance 10 times' reward leaves something to be desired

[viscid halo]

You should be enhancing your ships anyway, with or without rewards or missions. Shouldn't the statbuff be the incentive for enhancing your botes?

Most people save up their merits for purins which are hard to come by and used up very quickly. It's the most important or suggested "item" to get from merit shop after SD and Eldridge.

[shrewd iron]

can timezone be changed back to japan/china time thanks :))

[minor robin]

@shrewd iron it was never using that timezone

And it never will

Majority of the players are in the US anyways...

If anything, they would change to GMT, but well they haven't

And the last time they tried changing timezones...

By just one hour from PDT to PST
It literally broke the game...

[tardy arch]

it was never JP time zone and it never will be. this is the EN version not the JP version. and the previous time zone it used was PDT. it was changed to PST for day light saving (iirc)

[normal vine]

another point to change it to UTC+0 and leave it there

[minor robin]

Changed to remove DST

[normal vine]

at least until every major country has abolished daylight savings time

[minor robin]

Yes prince, exactly

[shrewd iron]

daylight ♿ time

[tardy arch]

can you not?

[minor robin]

So yeah no. Rejected on grounds that it's unnecessary.

[winter lynx]

Can we get a 1080p version of the login banner on wallpaper engine, like we got for the Enterprise Xmas one

[tardy arch]

so you not gonna do anything about the disabled people joke?

[minor robin]

@winter lynx you can actually find them on pixiv or danbooru actually

[winter lynx]

Oh nice

Because i love the live2d on this one so much

[minor robin]

Tho I'm not sure if you can find live animations

[velvet adder]

Make primary fleet button a little button that you can use on hard mode maps to have that fleet auto selected at the start of a map, so I dont run my boss fleet into enemies

or even a button that can switch fleet 1 and fleet 2 requirements around so that I can switch the fleet that becomes 1

running my boss fleet into mob nodes because I didnt click switch fleet at the start (or forgot) just happens so often for me this is a quality of life improvement a lot of people would enjoy me thinks

[plain coral]

atago's new year skin voice lines are too quiet

[shrewd iron]

update 'tutorial' easy/normal/hard missions already, we already have world 10 for a bit

[minor robin]

@restive mountain suggested

@shrewd iron Impossible since intermediate or normal and advanced or hard requires core data

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Beginner_Rewards

It's here

[balmy fern]

@viscid halo That applies for all activities that have a mission attached to them (exept the overworld attacks). these missions just give a bonus for doing so exept the bonus for enhancing a ship isn't all that rewarding.
Prehaps we could change the techbox to gearplates instead since these will be both useful for New and Longterm players. The reward for enhancing 10 times would be purpleplates.

[shrewd iron]

😡

[normal vine]

Any chance we could get a few voice options to choose the "Azur Lane" on startup from? I'd like a more mature one like Prince or Souryuu

[naive cobalt]

I thought it was suggested, but I guess not

I'll add it

[young jetty]

I think it's a good idea that whoever your secretary is, she'll be saying "Azuru Ren" on startup

[jade surge]

Remember, she wont say "Azuru Rain" she will scream it seemingly louder than you set your volume to and alerting everyone around you that you are a weeb

[young jetty]

No no. It's not a message to alert everyone you're a weeb. It's a message that says that you are a cultured person and loves your waifus

[jade surge]

Although i want my hipper to scream "AZURU RAINU BAKA HENTAI" can we get that?

[young jetty]

Right. Implementing their personalities would be good. Akagi could go "AZURU REINU evil laugh"

And Eldridge would probably be the most quiet AZURU REINU ever

[ornate basin]

I wish I could agree with this

[iron gyro]

Why Amagi thumbnail is so smoll

[ornate basin]

its known that it looks smaller than usual

[iron gyro]

Sorry the pict sent twice,
(already deleted)

[oak wharf]

add an option to skip the 3 second pause during BB salvos

[minor robin]

That's actually a game mechanic

[ornate basin]

how?

[naive cobalt]

I somehow doubt it's an actual mechanic tbh

[ornate basin]

it does nothing but waste time really, it only shows the CG

[cloud wyvern]

With the addition of more BB/BC that use torpedos, can we get the ability to equip the Oxygen Torpedo auxillary equipment on those ship types as well?

[minor robin]

there's literally just 5
i don't see the harm in it, but it's a waste of time to implement really...

It's not like their damage is torp oriented

[naive cobalt]

Don't see why not, I'll add it to the list later

[balmy fern]

Ark Royal with Torp

oh wait BB/BC

[pliant yacht]

Hi, I'm a little confused, do I have to use the trello site to give suggestions/feedback or can I just type it here? None of the pinned messages have actual information on that.

[frigid otter]

Currently every time you complete the daily "destroy 1 enemy ship" it did not go straight to the "win a sortie with S-rank" and "destroy 3 enemy ships" if you destroy another ship without claiming the first one. However, when you do four exercises in PvP, the two dailies regarding that will count just fine back to back.

My suggestion is to make the said quests completeable back to back.

[minor robin]

I am 100% sure that was suggested

[frigid otter]

huh, it did?

[pliant yacht]

I guess I can just type it here then.

[minor robin]

yeah

[tardy arch]

@pliant yacht you suggest things and put feedback in this channel and people like Restart put said suggestions into a trello for the devs to look at later.

[minor robin]

@frigid otter

[frigid otter]

alright then

[pliant yacht]

So my suggestion is, I'd like to toggle between the ship's voice lines for say... MVP and such when using skins. It might sound confusing, but let me explain. I've got Ayanami Retrofitted (this changes her lines a little, especially noticeable at MVP status after a battle). I also have her married, and I like to use the married skin, but she reverts to her pre-retrofitted lines when I do. I'd like to be able to choose I suppose between normal and retrofit when using other skins. This would also affect girls like Cygnet/Z23/Jintsuu, who revert to their pre-RF'd lines when using skins.

[minor robin]

That's not a bad idea actually

I support it

[frigid otter]

I was looking with a wrong keyword then

[pliant yacht]

I'm good at thinking of improvements like this xD

[naive cobalt]

Yea, sounds like a good idea

[velvet adder]

@pliant yacht Yep. Would be pretty cool.

[pliant yacht]

[normal vine]

probably too late for this event, but I'd really appreciate if there were more ways to get event ships than just construction - as usual, I'm having shit luck with the rng and haven't had any luck getting Amagi so far

I don't care if she'd be twice as expensive as Kaga in the points shop (and considering she gives Hood a run for her money, that seems a fair price), just give me a way that feels more worthwhile than pulling the lever on five builds a day and getting blues that I've already scrapped hundreds of

[naive cobalt]

It would prolly sound cynical, but... that's how gacha works. Even more - not all gacha games even allow to get at least some characters for free, be it map drops or shop.

Some ways to reduce gacha RNG was suggested, like guaranteed drops after X rolls and whatnot

But at the end of the day - that's how it works

[normal vine]

to be fair, I probably wouldn't care quite as much if Amagi didn't read like an overpowered Hood ... which is another problem

[final cape]

I mean rng is rng, it sucks but it is what it is. As it stands, Azur Lane is one of the most generous gacha games. If you left and played [redacted] or [redacted] you’d come back and cry at how generous these rates are. Also, the more events EN gets through, the faster rerun events will come, and the faster those botes will be added to the general pool so you can roll for them more leisurely.

[velvet adder]

7% on ssr is far better than 1%

[raven crater]

If there wasn't at least some rng involved in getting some ships, it wouldn't really be a gacha game. It's the inherent nature of gacha games.

[gilded seal]

thanks for the fixed amagi portrait

I can actually see her face now
previously it was like a mile away

[river crater]

Since Prince of Wales and Atago got added to the general gacha over time even though they were event ships for Z-Force, would there be any way that we'd get a trickle of event ships in the general gacha? Like every three or four months some of them would be added in? It just seems that over time with events being cranked out as fast as they are there would be some frustration cause collectors are waiting for an event to return, but I dunno, just a suggestion 😃

[naive cobalt]

For now we just following JP server, so it's up to them to decide what ships be added to permanent pool

But I'm sure that's the idea for a lot of events as is

[river crater]

I see, cool, just wanted to put it out there

[upper mortar]

gotta learn to effectively save cubes

[jade surge]

saving cubes doesnt help when RNG-sama decides you dont deserve that event ship you wanted

[naive cobalt]

ASHIGARA!

[jade surge]

i look at my collab ship collection and one of them is grayed out. kill me

[upper mortar]

have you gone through 500+ cubes?

[jade surge]

not nearly that much but RNG was infact toying with me cuz the ship i wanted had a rate up at like 2.25% and then i got two .75% that i already had

[raven crater]

#al-general

[upper mortar]

remember the 2.25% rateups are applied to their normal rarity rateups as well.

[jade surge]

actually how DOES the build chances work? like right now amagi is at 2% and BB kaga is at .5%, but ssr is at 7% so does that mean that the chances of getting an ssr OTHER than amagi or bb kaga is 7%-2.5% = 4.5%?

[naive cobalt]

yes

[knotty belfry]

I think AL has got it right.

I'd say it's often overlooked that this is one gacha game that gives you the opportunity to acquire the rarer units by means other than the gacha itself. Where ships can only be obtained via gacha, the generosity of this game is unparalleled from my experience in terms of currency and rates, a couple others I've dabbled in would use the equivalent of what gems are to AL for a circa 1% strike within a larger pool. It doesn't help that people's desire can be inflated by being part of a community like this one (I don't mean that in a derogatory way), the need to own every ship, as well as the haphazard perception of units being op and you can't go on without them, the opposite being another redeeming quality of this game. No doubt the frustration of a fair few would be prevented if they didn't do random heavy builds and exhausted the methods of accumulating cubes, too.

I was part of a game that introduced [after x builds, get rare ship] more than likely because people were hanging on tight to their gems due to the reputation for dismal rates, thus not spending. The scheme did provide an incentive to roll but people would still complain when they never got the featured unit they were hoping for (in this instance, there were multiple "prizes"). It was also a slap in the face at the time to those who rolled for them prior to the scheme. However, for me, it would take away some of the value in the ship if I knew they'll essentially be handed to everyone or there wasn't some sort of grind involved to make it seem like an achievement acquiring them (should there be only one prize); while that may remove the sorrow of those in the moment, it ultimately removes the thrill of the gacha format.

[opal pawn]

does anybody know whether siren / mini boss gold bp drop amount is = or < then normal boss drop?
been reset farming c3 for half a day already but the drop are always 1 bofor and never 2 or did anyone got a 2 bp drop for mini boss?
cus if mini boss drop is < then normal boss drop amount then i rather not reset farming at all pls and thanks you

[tardy arch]

no idea and wrong chat to ask. head over to #gameplay-help

[stable mantle]

After being informed in the help chat, and looking over the appropriate documents, I would like to suggest an improvement. The ability to select which girl says "Azur Lane" upon booting up the game. Washington and North Carolina both have lines of them saying Azur Lane. Allowing the option to select who says it would be a quality of life improvement. Potentially even later, who says Azur Lane would be tailored to your secretary, although this would require new lines to be recorded and seems unlikely.

[naive cobalt]

Was suggested

[stable mantle]

I was certain I read everything. Apologies then

[normal vine]

yeah, it's not in the doc or the trello yet, but I had the same suggestion yesterday

[naive cobalt]

Oh, it's not in public, right

Well, we planning to move everything to trello anyway

It'll take some time

[ornate basin]

I can always help if needed

[naive cobalt]

Nah, it's fine

I just need to stop being lazy

thx for offer tho

[tight stream]

Developers: Make the game better in an update.
Developers: Compensates players for making the game better. Even hot fixes!

[hollow lagoon]

^See, that's what I love about the Devs in this game. Technically, Maintenances are regular things for a game and they are not obliged to give anything, yet they do so anyway because it cuts into playing time. There's a good reason the game is doing so well, and it is because of small things like this.

[wheat yoke]

The Devs are really generous in this game. I see it way better than the rest.

[tight stream]

I purposely avoided ever playing a mobile game, but compulsion compelled me to join for the Neptunia event and collect all Neps. I had failed to do so and and thought myself "safe from mobile games", citing that failure as a reason to put the game down.
...Then half a month later, still thinking about the good non-Neptunia grills I rolled, I unintentionally did a tsundere impression and picked it back up, thinking, "I-It's not like I like this or anything!" I relented a week later, "the characters are so good, and the history, and the art, and you don't have to pay to have fun honestly (but I know I will pay anyway for those awesome skins), and the rolls aren't bad (I just got really unlucky during Neptunia, to be fair)..."
It's a very good, well done game. Glad I came back.

[raven crater]

@tight stream neps don't count for collection % anyway

[naive cobalt]

Some people want to collect certain characters not because of 100% collection like some of us

[minor robin]

Let's remember that Navi is one of the few with 100% collection when saying that

[raven crater]

I have all the nep ships too anyway

[jade surge]

tfw green heart is grayed out in collection

[tight stream]

Ohhh, that is nice to know that they don't count for completion percentage, at least. Another positive spin on it. Funny thing too, I have barely touched the Neptunia ships since I came back - only used Green Heart for as long as I needed her for Divergent Chess Board, then replaced her with Ranger.

[naive cobalt]

probably off topic at this point

[ornate basin]

well they did say it was a positive spin feedback!

[fierce dawn]

I know that guilds don’t do anything right now, but it could use an introduction sequence once there is more stuff to it.

Or at least move the info about Axis and Union to Join Guild/have it somewhere else separate. Create Guild is a pretty bad place to sum up what they’re about, which is what I wanted to know when I looked at the join list.

There’s also of course a lot of guild applications being full but still showing up on the join guild list, despite the available slots.

[minor robin]

Hmm, that's good feedback regardless

[naive cobalt]

filters for guilds + auto-clearing applications was suggested @fierce dawn

First part of suggestion I don't really understand

What introduction sequence and what's info about Axis/Union?

[minor robin]

Exactly

We have no info

Hence he's asking FOR info

[naive cobalt]

move the info about Axis and Union to Join Guild

move implies it IS somewhere (in Create Guild I assume)

Lemme just check for myself

I can't, I'm in guild

Anyway, I'll just add it to the list, don't see any harm in doing so

[warped bramble]

When are you going to make this 'not coming soon'

[naive cobalt]

whenever it's ready

[little folio]

And when it’s ready I’m getting it!
I just have to wait patiently

[minor robin]

We don't know, cos it depends on JP/CN

[raven crater]

When we get Bismarck

[velvet adder]

Please add the option to mute the "Azururenn" voice blasting at extreme volume when opening the game

[ornate basin]

just turn your ringer off when you start the game or lower your volume

[velvet adder]

That's what i do, but i'd prefer not having to do it

[ornate basin]

theres already a lot of suggestions for toggles, theres a fix for your problem, its probably more convenient to just mute your phone and make it a habit than to have it mutable (even considering people want more voicelines for the beginning)

[velvet adder]

Fair enough, but i still think that the intro voiceline is probably a little too loud

If yet another toggle is out of the question then a simple volume adjustment for just that voice file would be enough

[viscid halo]

Can we have higher quality audio for the game, especially voice lines? I'm used to wearing headphones and IEMs while playing and the harshness of the low quality voice files is extremely jaunting. I know that this is a very low-level first world problem feedback but please

[velvet adder]

I have a piece of feedback: please fucking whitelist "torpedo" from the chat, its awkward as fuck to have essential game terminology banned from chat. Rule of thumb: when the you have a word plastered on every single ship page then you should also be allowed to use it in the chat

[ornate basin]

we cant do that

im sure they would have if they could by now since the overly strict filter has been overly strict since day 1 and they know about it

[viscid halo]

its prone to abuse tho, and torps are simple and easy to use while conforming to the word limit of in-game chat as well.

[velvet adder]

There is absolutely to technical challenge involved into making the filter not filter out torpedo

[ornate basin]

torp is a very good alternative for torpedo yes

[velvet adder]

this is something an amateur can do, it should take a team of paid professionals no more than 2 minutes

[ornate basin]

afaik just saying the word in capitals doesnt register it unless thats changed

[viscid halo]

well, in-game chat is a hell-hole anyway btw, i think they might change the in-game chat with with the upcoming UI update, so we shall have to see.

[velvet adder]

Okay, I will look forward to that

[normal vine]

it would be nice to have a way to differentiate heavily damaged and "dead" shipgirls in the map - like having the crossed wrenches flash red instead of white when they're at 0 health

and it would be nice if we could get access to emergency repair in the Formation screen as well, e.g. by tapping the shipgirls icon at the bottom

[jade surge]

i thought once the girls died, the wrenches were grayed out? or do they keep flashing?

[normal vine]

they keep flashing

crappy Paint edit #1

[jade surge]

yeah i think that would be better

[normal vine]

crappy Paint edit #2

[naive cobalt]

good idea

[upper mortar]

Do we know anything about the upcoming winter's crown event, if we'll be getting the new rerun characters or not?

[naive cobalt]

Probably yes, but we don't know any details

Oh wait

We actually do know details

https://i.imgur.com/4nBDxrf.png

[upper mortar]

Awesome find, thank you.

[balmy fern]

Whenever an urgent commision pop-up shows up, being able to immediatly go to commisions to activate it if you want to would be a nice quality of life change

[mint hornet]

In game, the single 127mm dual purpose guns don't boost anti air like the twin 127mm dual purpose

[tardy arch]

gonna say that's intentional as they're separate guns.

[young jetty]

That single 127mm is the SP or Single Purpose version of the 127mm. iirc it's limited to 35° of elevation so it can't aim at the sky

[mint hornet]

But the 127 singles had radio fuse HE

[young jetty]

The single purpose one has no AA shell provisions

[mint hornet]

Having dual purpose aa on destroyers was part of the Big Blue Blanket

[young jetty]

Single Purpose (SP) means that the mount is limited to 35° elevation with no provision for AA shell fuze setters, and is designed to fire at surface targets only.

[mint hornet]

i can do that too, doesn't help your point

[naive cobalt]

If you want to discuss history there's #history club, single gun provides +25 FP instead of Twin's +11 FP and +14 AA. Historically those guns can have or don't have AA capabilities, so you can assume this one doesn't have those.

[mint hornet]

Well that doesn't make sense

Twin should have +50

[naive cobalt]

There's 0 reason to add AA to it not from balance, nor from historical standpoint.

[mint hornet]

Says you

American destroyers need better AA

[naive cobalt]

I'm not even sure how to answer that considering they're really good at AA as is

almost all of these are american DDs

[mint hornet]

"THAT'S ALOTTA DAMAGE, HOW 'BOUT A LITTLE MORE?"

[naive cobalt]

how about having balanced game

[mint hornet]

How about give me better AA for my fletchers

stop breaking my immersion

[raven crater]

Please don't be like this

Just because you really like them doesn't mean they can or should have better AA

There are 22 destroyers between 148 and 151 AA. That's a lot of ships with basically no AA difference. There are only 11 destroyers with more AA than 151, and you could arguably group the 4 destroyers with 153 to 155 AA into the same category.

In the 22 destroyers mentioned, there are 5 fletcher class ships: Fletcher, Thatcher, Aulick, Foote, and Spence. Their AA stat is arguably only truly outclassed by maybe 5 ships. They are definitely extremely high in the AA department already, especially considering how common most of them are.

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/List_of_Ships_by_Stats

[mint hornet]

well maybe I want to use the single 127mm dual purpose as a secondary on another ship or give it to one of the worse AA ships

[naive cobalt]

too bad single 127 doesn't give AA stats in that case, huh

[mint hornet]

yeah too bad single dual-purpose is missing aa stats

[raven crater]

@mint hornet I just asked my dad about this since 1) he plays Azur Lane and 2) is a huge history nerd and he basically confirmed what @young jetty said

You see how the first one is named "Dual" gun? That refers to the fact that it's capable of acting as normal artillery AND AA artillery. It refers to the dual role, not the dual barrels. The deciding factor is really how far up you can crank the barrel of the gun. Not every artillery piece can be elevated above 60-70° so it's no good for shooting at planes. Typically, a 127mm main gun, known at a Mk 54 in the US Navy, generally only elevates to 60 degrees. so it's not used as an AA gun. You could certainly put a 127mm flak shell in it, so theoretically it COULD be an AA gun, but that's not it's role. The Dual Gun shown there could elevate beyond 60 degrees, that's why the slots for the barrels extend up onto the ceiling of the turret, so it can shoot almost straight up.

Dual purpose guns are nice, but if you want to actually use them for both roles, you have to keep both types of ammunition and then you have to load the correct one... most ships get around that by having guns designated for one role or the other.

^ That also explains the difference in FP

if you notice, the dual purpose gun has 11 FP and 14 AA... That adds up to 25

which is how much FP the non AA capable gun has

[mint hornet]

I'm sorry but the fletcher class 127mm turret (as pictured) used radio fuse AA shells

[raven crater]

If you can't shoot at planes it doesn't matter what kind of shells you're using

[ornate basin]

radio fuse suck

[raven crater]

Also, passing along the counterargument

But that gun is not the Fletcher class gun per se, it's a generic representation of a 5-inch gun. Could be anyone's. At some point you have to trade realism for game play, right? By your logic, you shouldn't be able to equip a US carrier with German planes, but the game let's you do it, so...

A 5-inch gun is like saying a .38 caliber handgun... there's about a billion models that all operate subtly differently. They all use the same ammunition, but they all have different strengths, weaknesses, applications, and abilities. And even two ships of the same model might have different gun emplacements. Even though each is a 5-inch (127mm) gun. And not all the guns in the game would even FIT on all the ships you can put them on. They wouldn't work with the fire control system of the ship in question, and might even take different electrical power. So again, real-life/game-game play.

[mint hornet]

it can shoot at planes

[raven crater]

Yeah, it can shoot at planes if it's mounted such that it can shoot at planes. That's why there's a dual purpose gun. So you can put the dual purpose gun on your fletcher and die happy

👀

https://i.imgur.com/ympg9na.png

[raven crater]

Yeah, this is gun A

that has an AA stat

[mint hornet]

but it's the single fletcher 127

not a dual mount

[raven crater]

That's nice, but if we were going for that level of historical accuracy like we said, you couldn't equip uss guns to axis ships, etc.

There are lots of kinds of armaments, and the way they were installed onto different ships sometimes differed

I'm tired of arguing with you at this point though, I've said my piece. We're not going to consider this feedback further.

[mint hornet]

isn't that what the efficiency % is for?

Change the picture in game if you won't add AA stat, because I can assure you that the Fletcher turret pictured is dual purpose

@raven crater

[minor robin]

As mentioned we're not taking it. Efficiency in AL counts as a damage multiplier, and is not dependent on where the equipment is from (unless you have a skill for it like graf zeppelin).

And if you wanted to bring up about how American DDs don't have enough AA stat, how bout you look at the efficiencies you mentioned for AA? Most of them have 125-130% efficiency on their AA guns anyways, and most other DD have 75-80% efficiency.
And before you mention about the non US ships there, the akizuki class DDs (Niizuki, Yoizuki, Harutsuki) historically were designed to fight planes, as with the unfinished z46.

I think that's enough to compensate for what you claim is the in game inaccuracy of the single 127

[jade surge]

@minor robin if you really want to avoid confusion, you could put (SP) on the single one, cuz i always thought it meant how many barrels it had, not whether it was single purpose or dual purpose

[minor robin]

I honestly think it would make things more confusing (esp for new players) but that could just be a mental block

[jade surge]

yeah, maybe add (AA) to the guns that are dual purpose then?

or just DP cuz i forgot all AA guns say AA

[viral fiber]

Gib us sandy retro

[ornate basin]

[minor robin]

Check the pins before asking @viral fiber

[sturdy rapids]

can we slow down on how quickly we get limited dorm sets? I just realized that we have 2 limited dorm sets atm, haven't spent my tokens except on limited dorm sets since halloween and I still dont have enough to buy either of the sets

[viscid halo]

The dorm sets are seasonal meaning they will come back, most likely. Besides, this is the same argument as slowing down on events. I also have never spent money or purchased tokens, yet I still have enough for all the limited sets and more. You want more tokens to buy more furniture, you can just farm more of them by doing commissions.

[young jetty]

Let me just put my experience here. I buy limited dorm sets whenever a new one comes out. Commissions and other stuff are enough to get the limited dorm sets. You'll be even left with dome change. Considering I play for like 4 hours a day, I'd say that getting tokens is easy enough to buy a set every two weeks.

[sturdy rapids]

I've been doing commissions tho? I only buy limited dorm sets and my only problem so far is it seems i wont have enough to buy both limited dorm sets when they expire. And no this isn't even relatively close to events. Events have limited ships, maps, and you spend hours on those to farm. Dorm tokens you just get from commissions and commissions take time no matter which one you do so you can't just "farm faster" since thats the only way you can earn them. I already mentioned I've only spent on limited since halloween. Idk how you guys get enough tokens tbh.

[viscid halo]

well, lemme rephrase then. You haven been doing enough commissions.

[sturdy rapids]

but hey, since you mentioned they come back then this isn't an issue

[viscid halo]

yups, most of them come back, less the collabs ones such as Neps.

[sturdy rapids]

not everyone has time to send out a hundred commissions a day

[viscid halo]

you cant do a hundred per day anyway but ye, me and frey should be on the more hard-core end

[sturdy rapids]

The average commissions I've sent out per day is like 12-15, so I guess its just me being casual

[viscid halo]

you can always just buy the pieces that you really like first.

[sturdy rapids]

yeah, I just do that. Thanks for the chat 👌

[placid turret]

My feelings ache seeing Dunkerque in Concord story and not being able to have her...

[frail jackal]

Add divorce system on ship plssss

[jade surge]

Thats never gonna happen

[naive cobalt]

@frail jackal You won't get the ring back even if it's added to the game anyway, so there's 0 point in it.

[frail jackal]

What if someone hates her now just like real life? Im just thinking some people feelings lol nevermind, thank you for replying

[viscid halo]

What can your waifu do to make you hate her

[naive cobalt]

What should they be called in that case? And can you please provide a screenshot, so I'll be able to add it.

[jade surge]

@naive cobalt official designation is machine gun so you could put MG

[naive cobalt]

MG could be more confusing and "machine gun" is too long

[jade surge]

Ah i see how mg could be confusing now

[oak wharf]

auto equip:

when forming a fleet, this option will automatically equip any ship's empty equipment slots

[outer grove]

Yat Sen will be added in the game sooner?

[naive cobalt]

stay tuned, we don't know

[normal vine]

I'm not sure if I suggested faction-specific or unique death animations, but it would be cool to see Santaprise go out in an explosion of presents

[naive cobalt]

All ships technically have unique death animations

most noticeable ones are Foxes

rest just look kinda same

[normal vine]

I wouldn't call 300 variations of "shipgirl falls over" unique ¯_(ツ)_/¯

anyway, row 285 in the doc was my suggestion, if you want to add that to it

[pliant yacht]

Suggestion: when picking a secretary, one of the "stats on/off" toggles at the top should cycle through affection. Since being a secretary grants affection to 90, but only level 100 is visible on the card, it'd help a trip to the dock. I know it's already possible to do selective stats on/off, because when picking girls for book training, the stats on/off only cycles through the skills, so this could simply be added purely for secretary choices (unless you want to add it as a toggle in the standard dock).

[minor robin]

We have had the option of having it being togglable in the dock suggested

[balmy fern]

Idea for Fuel filter buff effect.
'Decreases units oil cost by 15%T3 (10% T2, 5%T1) rounded up to the nearest 1 Does not stack'

This way you also can't slap Fuel filters on 1 cost fleets and run them for free since it will be rounded up to 0 until the unit's oil cost is 5 or higher

[raven crater]

I think almost this exact same thing has already been suggested

[minor robin]

The thing is, fuel filters don't need a buff

If you've done the eHP math, you'll realise that it's usually as beneficial or even more beneficial to CLs than double toolbox

It's just that people give them too much flak so the average person doesn't use them

While I agree that's a good idea, I don't see any reason for them to be buffed honestly

[raven crater]

I think it just makes sense from the perspective of fuel filters making ships more oil efficient and adding a new and helpful mechanic to the game (with some balancing of course)

[torpid spire]

I was thinking like, if someone in your guild does the following "@[your_name]", in the chat, the game would send you a notification that someone wrote something for you or just get your attention on something.

Like dunno "someone needs you, commander-nyaa"

[naive cobalt]

can't imagine this not being used to annoy and harass people

[torpid spire]

Maybe have a turn on/off button if so?

[naive cobalt]

not annoying

also kinda moot argument, the game is not a chat application like discord

and aren't there dms anyway?

[tardy arch]

yes. only in the firends list though.

[naive cobalt]

ah, so you need to be friends

thing is - chat moves quite fasr and I'm not sure how is game with saving history

don't think it's bad idea by itself, just not sure on how to do it

[torpid spire]

[naive cobalt]

I'll add it and change if come up with something. Fell free to suggest ideas

[normal vine]

QoL suggestion: allow us to swipe through ships in the Archives, too (right now you can't do that)

[clear heron]

I've suggested it before, so should be logged.

[normal vine]

neither in the doc nor the trello (at least not when I search for "Archives" or "swipe")

also, can we please have the retrofit tab show greyed-out pictures of the ships we haven't retrofitted yet, like the Archive does?

[naive cobalt]

guess it was missed

(also wow, don't think I even joined the server at this point )

(I joined 3 days before that, ok)

sure, I'll add both

unless retro thing was suggested which I don't remember, but should make sense if someone already did it

[normal vine]

haven't found it, either

[balmy fern]

@minor robin I have to agree with NaviKing. its less that they need a buff but more that it makes sense for fuel filters to reduce oil costs or atleast have an interaction with the oil cost in some shape or form. besides, this buff won't affect PVP at all and isn't going to make PVE easier in a difficulty sense. Makes farming higher worlds also a tad less expensive for players.

[knotty belfry]

One time, I suggested there be a day in the week when we can farm a random chapter/stage at half-cost oil and it was decided that it would break AL; having an item that would decrease oil consumption each and every day of the week doesn't paint a more lenient outcome, unless I misinterpreted what exactly would be broken.

[raven crater]

half cost for your whole fleet is a lot more than like, 10% for a single ship

You also sacrifice putting something else into that equipment slot too

[knotty belfry]

Okay, but that's 10% each time you use that ship and with the premise that only one ship has the item equipped.

The saving accumulates, and no doubt players wouldn't mind dropping one aux in favour of the filter

[raven crater]

10% is still not as much as half

Of course many players would choose to drop an aux in favor of the filter, but they would still have to make that decision and get to the point where that is more beneficial than a more traditionally useful aux equipment

Since it applies to the individual ship as opposed to the fleet as a whole, it means you have to use higher oil ships in order to actually gain benefit, since otherwise it would round down to 0 oil discount

[naive cobalt]

Also 10% aux gives people a bit more control than "1 random chapter is 1/2 oil"

Also 10% is AT MOST - around 2 oil. Obviously it'll stack, but even then - it's still only 1-2 oil off ship's cost.

[knotty belfry]

I wouldn't mind saving oil, I was more curious to how it differed. Thanks for responding

[shy pond]

On the topic of Warspite: She is being outshined by many ships and is slowly being relegated to the PvP role. My suggestion for her is: A) Possible retrofit to add another skill (Tankiness possibly?)
B) Change Divine Marksman to function better in PvE enviroment while retaining its unique flavor in PvP (my suggestion is: Shells travel on the field of battle, passing through shields and ships and dealing damage until they reach the target).
The third option, and probably one that people would appreciate the most is a combination of these options to give Warspite a more all-around role (And due to her history the Ultra-rare status she deserves)

[rare jay]

She is getting a retrofit. It's been announced

That is, in the JP/CN version

[shy pond]

Still concerned with the Divine marksman usefulness though

The point is that the skill rarely hits even against bosses, which makes it almost useless outside of the limited scope of PvP

[knotty belfry]

Someone already suggested something along those lines in the doc:

"Warspite's Divine Marksman skill needs to be rebalanced, so that it either a) won't always shoot at the farthest possible target (and miss, as a result of the shell travel time and enemy movement) or b) the shots need to go much faster to make up for it."

[normal vine]

do we know if she'll get a new skill with her retrofit and what it'll be?

[rare jay]

Afaik, nothing about it has been announced but we just know it's coming soon for those servers

[normal vine]

@shy pond also, what does she need tankiness for?
a) she's already pretty tanky
b) she's backline and only takes damage that your vanguard lets through

[shy pond]

The thing with Warspite is that she managed to always pull through even though she was the ship that probably took the most punishment. Jutland being the prime example of this. Over 150 separate hits on her. The point of a defensive-based suggestion is this: If it were a fleet buff (Which it could be, because she (somewhat akin to South Dakota) always drew a lot of attention. As another example we can use the Fritz X guided bomb which blew out a 20 foot hole un her underside. She stayed afloat.

[normal vine]

... yes? are you gonna finish that sentence?

[shy pond]

Elaborate....

[normal vine]

The point of a defensive-based suggestion is this: If it were a fleet buff and then you go off on an explanation why it could be

[shy pond]

The fleet buff could be quite interesting. For example reducing damage for the fleet somewhat(5-10%). This could fit as she never recieved lethal damage until she broke off and scuttled herself on her way to the scrapyard

[clear heron]

In any case, considering there are JP changes in bound, I don't think anything definitive can be said for Warspite as of this moment.

[raven crater]

I don't think it's worth considering rebalan- ^

[normal vine]

QoL suggestion: when I swipe through the ships of a fleet, have it loop around

[copper forge]

Pretty sure its beach, not beace 😃

[minor robin]

@copper forge report it thru Belfast bot like this

!bugreport

[agile otter]

Hello commander, if you'd like to report a bug please send me a direct message with !feedback and I would be happy to assist you. However, be sure to check #known-bugs to make sure you're not reporting something that is already known. You can also check the Trello boards here:

Bugs: https://trello.com/b/Hd2cMeYU/azur-lane-official-azur-lane-en-bugs
Translation Issues: https://trello.com/b/7gz5rAAi/azur-lane-official-azur-lane-en-translation-issues

[timid trench]

a favourite button so ships that you like to use often gets put at the very top in the dock

[ornate basin]

that would prob be the affinity

[minor robin]

I kinda like this idea lol

[timid trench]

[naive cobalt]

I feel like that one was suggested

https://i.imgur.com/vJCykoi.png

[ornate basin]

yeah I was about to say I felt like it was too

[naive cobalt]

Also I feel like there were few suggestions I forgot to add to the list

[ornate basin]

but I was too lazy to look at the doc so I didnt say anythinf

[viscid halo]

Please add higher quality audio

[timid trench]

thats nice

[naive cobalt]

@viscid halo

[viscid halo]

I suggested higher quality for voice lines previously

[ornate basin]

awhile ago cleve came in saying that it sounds bad
as in low quality

and awhile ago meaning 2 days awhile ago

[viscid halo]

Bad is kinda an understatement, I can hear the noise in lines on both my speakers (on desktop) and head/earphones when on mobile.

I know it's important to conserve file size but

[naive cobalt]

nerd

It might work as an optional thing

[ornate basin]

thats like downloading extra audio files, might as well throw in HD files as well

[viscid halo]

I know it's unlikely to get implemented as this is a mobile game after all. But I would like to at least see it get added.

[timid trench]

i thought that the audio download pack in the setting is the high quality audio

[naive cobalt]

No idea how I missed your feedback, because I read both messages before and after yours

Yea, I'll add it

[viscid halo]

Nope, it's just voice lines for the girls, some girls don't talk unless you update the voice pack. @timid trench

[timid trench]

i see

[naive cobalt]

All of them but starters and Akashi actually

Maybe not even Akashi, but not sure

[sturdy rapids]

has it been suggested to filter equipment to unequipped items only? Or is it in the game already and im blind

[viscid halo]

It's already in the game yes. All those in your storage are unequipped.

[sturdy rapids]

i should expand on that

[viscid halo]

When changing equip screen, theres a checkmark at the bottom to filter out equipped gear.

[sturdy rapids]

THANKS, just found it. Actually so useful

[sturdy rapids]

ok, i know that there's gonna be an UI update soon but just want to put it here in case it isnt included in the overhaul. Can settings/filters please be saved even after closing the game? Like auto-battle notification, notices, the equip filter mentioned above. There are so many things that just get reset after you close the game that it just becomes annoying to keep doing over and over.

[balmy fern]

Idea: defeating an enemy aviation fleet will have an increased droprate for carriers, main fleets have an increased drop rate for battleships/cruisers and torpedoships have an increased droprate for destroyers and Light/Heavy cruisers.

[hardy nymph]

Something that takes you to monthly login/level reward/limited that isnt shared by skin advertisement, maybe?

[flint flower]

Where i can report about transaction issues?

[minor robin]

#tech-support

@flint flower

[flint flower]

Thx i appreciate it

[normal vine]

@restive mountain sound and other notification settings are saved on the device, too, so it'd make sense to save filters and "seen it" checkboxes per device as well

[viscid halo]

Make it so that top10(or some other number) can fight each other in PVP without losing rank points. It is very troublesome to be top3 and still have 2 exercises left, but cannot fight anyone without losing points, especially when you'll be gone for the next 2 resets due to the reset timings.

Also, improve PVP lineup allocation. It is absurd that when I am rank 3, i get rank 300 people in my lineup, it'll be fine and all if my points don't get deducted fighting them, but they do. Possible way is to lock top 10 players' line up to top 10, top 50 will be +-50, top100 +-100, and etc, to have a decent curve for lower ranked players.

[raven crater]

What do you mean "losing rank points"?

[viscid halo]

for eg, normal wins net me 10rank points, but if i fight a player having lesser rank points than me i get only 9rank points.

[raven crater]

Yeah... that's what keeps PVP competitive

[viscid halo]

i agree with that, which is why im saying only top10 can fight each other, without losing points. or maybe even top 5

as when you're in top100, fleets are more or less than same powerlevel and comps.

doesnt make sense to punish the top players because they simply cant get an opponent with higher rank points than them.

[raven crater]

That's the balance though. The fact that the top rank players have to eventually stop climbing. Otherwise the first people to get to the top would stay there because they'd never lose points

well you're not technically "losing points", just not gaining as much

[viscid halo]

never thought of it that way........ guess i just have to be a panda then.
thanks Navi!

[raven crater]

you get the rewards as soon as you cross the rank threshold too, so there's no benefit to staying top ranked except for bragging rights

[normal vine]

but everyone knows that bragging rights >> everything else
right?

[tough dirge]

Please add Warspite Oath skin, since you will add retro for her

[eager bough]

Please Hire Hiten to make future kansens He is a very very good artist :')

[blazing palm]

Thank you for making a fun and enjoyable game I can play on my phone without having to spend money that I also don't feel bad about spending money on cuz it is a great game more importantly it makes my day a little bit better than it normally is can't wait to see what the future brings. —sincerely admiral Coywolf—

[hard sorrel]

When do we have USN 1943-1944 ships? When do we have Intrepid, Iowa class ships, And other famous Essex class Carriers? I hope we have strong Amagi x Nagato fleet counter that make them become dust in 20 sec on PvP

[minor robin]

@hard sorrel check the pins and literally 2 messages above

[hardy nymph]

I read like a hundred suggestions and didn't see it so. What if you could sort the dorm store with stuff that's intractable? Like beds, stages, chairs, ect. So you only see those.

[minor robin]

Good suggestion

[normal vine]

I'm pretty sure that got suggested, maybe @naive cobalt forgot to add it

[ornate basin]

it was suggested

I dont know the keywords the user used to suggest it but yeah it was definitely said here in the chat

might have been this, its not exactly the same

[winter escarp]

Is this plate imbalance intended? Like these other types I hardly need any while having this huge overstock while having a big aux shortage due to the extra diversity aux has compared to the other slots

[naive cobalt]

yes, that's pretty normal

[winter escarp]

Ik it is normal isn’t that a design flaw to have this demand imbalance?

Esp when events give the same amounts of parts like this one giving 30 for all, just seems off to me

[naive cobalt]

No, it's not. Each ship can take 2 aux, while only 1 of others. It makes sense for general parts to be in bigger demand. You can play around it by attacking enemies who give them and avoiding those who don't

Resource management and setting priorities is part of the gameplay as much as actually playing it

[winter escarp]

Ik that but that does not address it is a design flaw. With the higher demand with aux parts how come we are not given more in shop to compensate for the demand? It’s like the game it not aware of the imbalance

[tardy arch]

cause the shop is random?

[naive cobalt]

Because... not everything is supposed to be "compensated for"?

You supposed to have less aux parts, because you need twice as much aux gear

[winter escarp]

random? what do you mean? it isnt? every part you get 30 of

I disagree restart, i see it as an overlooked damand imbalance, got a better way explaining it as intended?

spekaing of random shops, that brings up another point, why are aux in 5 stacks like everything else too? while haivng the same cost in gold/ medals? i would think there be better thought for econ balance

[tardy arch]

i wasn't referring to the item quantity. i was referring to the item itself. it's random whether or not you'll be able to buy the parts.

[minor robin]

I mean... You can choose which node to farm which gives you different plate drops... So...

[winter escarp]

"Resource management and setting priorities is part of the gameplay as much as actually playing it" see this goes back your not understanding my point, I have over 1k in purple parts in everything else with NO ABILITY to use them (last my top 24? or so ships) while being short in aux, in other words, there is no "management" on the other types, while aux is severely limited, so why the great discrepancy? all other types in huge surplus, while aux in shortage? this means we gain too much on the other types, or not enough aux plates.

[tardy arch]

pls tell me what nodes drop what parts. i need this knowledge

[naive cobalt]

BB drop them for sure

You can see it when starting the fight

[minor robin]

All nodes drop auxiliary

Unless in w6-9, where recon nodes drop plane parts as the replacement for auxiliary due to lack of carrier nodes

I mean personally, I do have an excess in torp plates, but nothing else

[tardy arch]

no it doesn't mean we gain to many of the other parts. we just use more aux part cause there's 2 aux slots where as there's only 1 of the other slots. so we just end up using more.

[naive cobalt]

Anyway, that would be completely pointless argument here.
Shop suggestion is rejected, because there's absolutely 0 reason for a shop to give more priority to one part, while ignoring the other. And that was the only suggestion you given.
If you have smth besides "just make fights drop twice as much AUX" - please say it.

If not - there's nothing to discuss really

[winter escarp]

you are aware

i said event shop right? not GUILD shop? also I was defeating your idea of "management" since that is non existent in the other parts, so how is that an argument for the aux shortage?

[tardy arch]

maybe some sort of plate conversion system? not an upgrade system though. say like 5 torps for 1 aviation etc.

[minor robin]

Err, I think the average player would also have issue with gun plates honestly

[tardy arch]

ya i'm lacking both gun and aux plates.

[minor robin]

It is about management

[winter escarp]

I thought the idea for event shops was to be able to help people bridge what they lack in, so logically it should be aware for the damand imbalance for the event shops and offer more

[tardy arch]

that makes no sense.

[naive cobalt]

Then you probably thought wrong

Anyway, as I said, shop suggestion is rejected

[winter escarp]

oh? why do you think it is not an oversight? to me your extemly biased, "it is this way so deal with it"

[naive cobalt]

All parts have same weight and value. Just because you need smth more, doesn't mean it's absolute value has changed, only your personal one

If you think it doesn't make sense - it's fine.

[winter escarp]

it doesn't that's your bias showing

[naive cobalt]

Ok

[hasty mountain]

suggestion -> please let the player accumulate more ships than they have slots in a stage, keep the slots block only when the player begins the sortie
it is inconvenient to have to stop in the middle of a sortie just before you are going into a battle to scrap / feed stuff

[naive cobalt]

Was suggested

[hasty mountain]

oh... didn't find it in the spreadsheet

[tardy arch]

so what about the plate conversion idea?

[winter escarp]

oh yeah, because you can't enchance ships in the sortie, so you have to scrap them if you are interested leveling the ships you send out

[winter escarp]

at some point you get enough where doesn't matter but i do see how that will help new players.

But for my issue, this is game feedback, where do we stand now restart? I do not like your bias filtering me out

the game does allow overflow dock space getting ships as rewards, if thats worth anything

[balmy fern]

Why are mods taking in the suggestions in anyway, they aren’t part of the dev team.

[tardy arch]

they take in suggestions for staff to look at later.

[naive cobalt]

Because having this channel empty considering devs only online for a few hours a day is a better idea? Because devs literally asked us to do it?

[balmy fern]

Issue is, they will only take suggestions they themselves think is a good idea.

[winter escarp]

^

[naive cobalt]

But for my issue, this is game feedback, where do we stand now restart? I do not like your bias filtering me out I asked you to actually suggest smth and you didn't.

[jade surge]

so about the plates, alot of BBs have 2 slots for guns, and yet you arent claiming that we need double the gun parts for them, same with carriers having 2 or 3 slots for planes. so the idea should be to increas the rates for ALL plates as that is fairer for everyone regardless of specifically what plates they need

[winter escarp]

I do not know what "smth" means, i never heard of that before, what are you even asking

[naive cobalt]

"something"

[jade surge]

@naive cobalt idk what exactly "increase rates" means but you get my idea right?

[naive cobalt]

Your shop idea is rejected, because shops, being it guild or event, don't consider "demand" and they shouldn't, all thing there should be equally accessible, regardless of how much you need.

[balmy fern]

We actually should have someone who is directly involved with the AL dev oversee this chat instead having the mod barriér filtering ideas on personal bias but i get why this isn’t possible.

[naive cobalt]

And shop idea was the only one you gave. If you think smth should be improved - you should suggest ways of fixing it

[winter escarp]

Because of the exteme inbalance of aux plates ( and apperently guns) can we have a 100% increase of numer of aux plates in event shops and 50% increase for guns? for exmaple, for this event we are on, gives 30 purple, and 40 blue this means the shop could offer 60 puple aux plates, 45 gun plates, 30 for rest, for blue, 80 aux plates, 60 gun plates, 30 rest, at least for events can the game be self aware of the damand inbalance?

[jade surge]

@winter escarp you cant just increase one, you have to increase them all because you can find a reason to need more of specifically one type over all the others, so its an all or nothing kind of thing

[winter escarp]

???????????????/

[tardy arch]

this is going nowhere fast 🍿

[minor robin]

And if you want me to hammer it home it's a management issue, let me bring up inrerutable evidence

[naive cobalt]

We actually should have someone who is directly involved with the AL dev oversee this chat instead having the mod barriér filtering ideas on personal bias but i get why this isn’t possible. Most of suggestions here actually pass to the trello. If you want to eliminate "bias" completely, I'd have to add literally all suggestions, and that's not happening, because people love to suggest completely broken and stupid stuff.

[balmy fern]

Trello?

[naive cobalt]

https://trello.com/b/XqSmXLq4/azur-lane-official-azur-lane-en-feedback

[winter escarp]

I defeated the "management" line:
Momo von Einzbern, (モモ）Today at 5:28 PM
"Resource management and setting priorities is part of the gameplay as much as actually playing it" see this goes back your not understanding my point, I have over 1k in purple parts in everything else with NO ABILITY to use them (last my top 24? or so ships) while being short in aux, in other words, there is no "management" on the other types, while aux is severely limited, so why the great discrepancy? all other types in huge surplus, while aux in shortage? this means we gain too much on the other types, or not enough aux plates.

[minor robin]

When people farm w6-9, they would typically go for recon nodes which are easier to farm and guess what? Those don't drop aux plates

[balmy fern]

Oh that

[minor robin]

So if you're farming shit that doesn't drop what you need, ofc you're going to be lacking them

[balmy fern]

Also you do realize you can think outside of the box instead of getting the idea that you have to greenlight all ideas, shit or not.

[naive cobalt]

I added a lot of things I personally disagree with or don't think are needed.

[balmy fern]

Why?

[naive cobalt]

"Why"

[jade surge]

@winter escarp for example: vestal (and maybe some others) can equip 2 AA guns, so i need more AA plates, BBs have 2 guns, carriers have 3 planes, and most ships have 2 aux slots, so somewhere someone wants more AA plates, or gun plates, etc., etc. so you cant just give more of one type of plate, you would have to give more of all types of plates equally

[naive cobalt]

Because it's still a valuable feedback that important to others?

Anyway, that's getting off-topic

[balmy fern]

On what do you base this then

[naive cobalt]

Let's focus on parts thing

[balmy fern]

Looks like someone wants to backout

[naive cobalt]

Looks like someone has nothing to contribute to discussion?

[jade surge]

realized i was saying plates this entire time when theyre called parts

[tardy arch]

you ask him to check his bias at the door. he said he already does that. you ask "why?" are you trolling?

[balmy fern]

No u? Thats all you got?

Well on what do you base it anyway

[young jetty]

About the aux parts thing, I have too much of it. Plane plates are hard to come by imo.

[balmy fern]

I am ever so curious :)

[minor robin]

Based on objectivity? And not game braking bs

[tardy arch]

k dude can you not troll here. head to #461381136661217283 or #al-general for that.

[balmy fern]

Truly? What objective lines do you follow?

“Trolling” what do you mean?

[naive cobalt]

Anyway, I think this suggestion could solve all the problems, right?

https://i.imgur.com/mjvLdvg.png

@winter escarp ?

[minor robin]

Objective i.e does it benefit/improve gameplay, is it necessary, and does it already have a solution that a player overlooks (which is a lot of cases)

[balmy fern]

:)

[winter escarp]

i dont think that would be accpted, i thought having a slight increase for EVENT (to me events are made to act as a bridge of "make up" for those that are behind in something) has the highest chance of being accpeted

but if you wanna submit that goahead

[naive cobalt]

95% of feedback won't be accepted

[balmy fern]

Because of bias

[tardy arch]

he means by the devs. can you stop now?

[naive cobalt]

I will mute you if you continue

[jade surge]

actually @naive cobalt (this has probably been suggested) but being able to upgrade blue parts to purple parts?

[balmy fern]

Sure i had my fun

[naive cobalt]

I will mute anyone who has nothing to contribute

@jade surge It was, yes

[minor robin]

Reminder that trolling is not allowed in here.

Neither is witty comebacks or anything unproductive

[jade surge]

figured cuz that was what i learned you COULDNT do when i ran out of purple planes today

[balmy fern]

Considering i have to become obvious before it is noticed, well i am safe

Wait witty comebacks are actually bannable?
....wat? Why

[minor robin]

Unproductive.

[naive cobalt]

/warn 203604218538360833 off-topic in feedback channel

[serene marsh]

SuperMegaUltraSuperkonijn#2611 got warned. Reason: off-topic in feedback channel

[balmy fern]

This chat only?

Restart, i was just asking about something a mod brought up

[tardy arch]

this chat is for suggestion and feed back. not for fun chit chat.
seriously stop or you're going to get muted.

[minor robin]

I think your earlier comments were enough to warrant that. Anyways yeah do stop.

[tardy arch]

when you go to sortie it'd be nice to see what kind of enemy ships you'd fight. simply putting the icons for DD, CA, BB ,etc somewhere on the hud or a list like with the droppable ships.

[hasty mountain]

I'd be more interested in seeing their levels before going into the map

[balmy fern]

^

[tardy arch]

that to

[young jetty]

Common enemy levels and then the flagship level should be separated

[minor robin]

I mean... You can see their levels before going in

[tardy arch]

how?

[balmy fern]

If it is true that danger levels give you invisible additional levels, shouldn’t this information be displayed when checking dangerlevels?

[young jetty]

We're talking about the stage itself. Not the node

[tardy arch]

my suggestion was for nodes. but using on the stage would work to

[minor robin]

Nodes exist

[naive cobalt]

I'd be more interested in seeing their levels before going into the map I wanted to say it's meaningless, because "~world X 10", but it doesn't work for event maps

Sure

[minor robin]

Useful I agree, and for now can be compensated by going to the wiki

[tardy arch]

i don't see how it'd be meaningless. it'd help new players as well.

[naive cobalt]

If it is true that danger levels give you invisible additional levels, shouldn’t this information be displayed when checking dangerlevels? Effectively it does exactly what it says - increases your damage while reducing enemies one. How exactly it does that isn't really needed.

[balmy fern]

Why not? Because the lvl system is something the game doesn’t tell you outright anyway?

[tardy arch]

no cause all you really need to know about is the damage reduction part. plus people might get confused and think they're actually getting additional levels when they're not.

[balmy fern]

Actually knowing that you deal more damage aswell is kind of important

[jade surge]

the game has reasons for trying to keep some of the stats and algorithms hidden, as otherwise it would be easy to immediately see what the absolute best fleet and gear comp would be. by keeping stuff hidden its basically forces players to experiment

[minor robin]

While the math to danger levels apply like additional levels for damage calculation, we also have to put in the part where it caps at 25 levels or 50%. It gets complicated to explain

And regarding the dealing more damage bit, to be fair none of the servers make that clear
Tho I'm quite sure it's been either feedbacked or reported

[balmy fern]

Will have to check if that feedback has been added or reported

[naive cobalt]

Don't think it was either

[jade surge]

(also just a note about hidden stats: if you see a list of ship accuracies, its all wrong cuz the enmies stats are used with the accuracy calculation)

[balmy fern]

Can we get a bugtracking list when a bug is fixed in the notice section?

[minor robin]

I mean, you can see the fixed bugs on the trello page

[balmy fern]

Would be more convenient if we didn’t need a third party source for that however.

[minor robin]

Bugs that are fixed are removed from #known-bugs anyways. For the full list you can see on the trello page. We don't need more unnecessary channels

[raven crater]

The balance for equipment is that equipment isn't married to a particular ship. You can ultimately get buy with only a few kinds of each equip/aux as a result. It's more of a luxury than anything else to have like 10 +10 catapults, for example. That is the balance of "not having enough plates."

I disagree about being able to convert one plate part into another, except maybe at a reduced rate (like, 3 to 1 of any tier plate to any other tier plate but 5 to 1 if you're converting to general?). Balancing could be tricky though I do think it's been suggested (and added to the trello list?) that we be able to upgrade plates to other tiers similar to how we can upgrade blueprints and boxes.

@balmy fern anyone with the feedback assistant or translation assistant roles are authorized to vet suggestions in this channel. And yes, that includes two lil mods. Also, it's odd that we need people who won't "filter ideas on personal bias" and then when Restart says "I added a lot of things I personally disagree with or don't think are needed." you say "why?" Like... that's literally the thing you're asking for dude.

Bugs that are fixed get moved in trello and deleted from #known-bugs , if they're in there. We don't have much control over how detailed the patch notes are, if that's what you're referring to.

As far as danger level goes, yeah, it's not fully explained in game but the full explanation is kind of complicated... maybe it could be amended to include the "increases damage dealt" thing but the way that it modifies "levels" makes it more confusing than anything, IMO. Since it only "adds levels" for purposes of the damage dealt/taken calculation, people would be like "but muh ships are exactly the same level in battle as they are before I go into the map, what gives"

[minor robin]

Sometimes, ignorance is bliss

[naive cobalt]

I disagree about being able to convert one plate part into another, except maybe at a reduced rate suggestion was literally "5 to 1"

[tardy arch]

i said 5 to 1 as an example. and it would balance it a little since normally you'd have to fight to get them. costing you oil. so skipping that should come with an extra cost.

[raven crater]

I was composing my response as I was backreading

[balmy fern]

I actually feel like version update information and a bugtracker should be displayed on their official website instead of in a trello, or have the site link to the trello.
This way the information will become available for more people since not everyone who plays AL has joined the AL discord server or other social media platforms.

[jade surge]

if the devs have to pay or spend time making something other than azur lane, then problems happen, so its easier (and better for us game update wise) to use a third party

[balmy fern]

Still, a link to the trello on their website would be appreciated

[jade surge]

yeah a link would definitely be good, and it wouldnt be that difficult to add

[raven crater]

I think it's a good idea

To share the link, not reinvent the wheel and create their own bug tracker

[jade surge]

yeah do the easy thing so they dont have to worry and can go back to the slavedriving workaholic programming center get back to their nice jobs making the game for us

[remote parrot]

Request for someone on the Devs team (Not Carol) to help me exchange the GH (Green Heart) skin I got from a Lucky bag. Since the game never dropped GH for me, I have no way of using that skin. As such I paid for a $30 product that I can only use part of it. So would like to exchange the skin for another ship skin for equal value. Or the equivalent in gems.

[raven crater]

I mean

that's kind of your fault

it's "a random skin"

not "a random skin of a ship you already own"

You can try asking in #tech-support though or DMing Aki

But don't be surprised if you get shot down

[topaz axle]

Dear Azur Lane . Please remove the restriction on movement for event maps once we have defeated all elite mobs . Node restrictions on maps during events makes grinds painfully tedious

[minor robin]

Suggested multiple times before

[topaz axle]

good to know that I am not the only one who is not unhappy with this

[remote parrot]

I have a item/product I can't use. RNG or not, I was given a item I have no way of using. Meaning that I paid $30 for a pack of items, but only half of that $30 is usable. That's not very consumer friendly or healthy.

Considering that the Neppy Event was a Collab and hasn't returned in either CN or JP. I will have a ship skin for a ship I cannot obtain sitting around, with no possible way to use it. So I paid for a $30 pack but only can use half of that. Since ships skins have no other purpose to exist.

I will message Aki regardless. Can anyone link me the cost of the GH skin when it was available? Showing how many gems is cost at the time?

[minor robin]

You did pay for 2018 gems, some coins, some cubes and a random nep skin
They are in no way obligated to give you a different skin just cos you lack the ship of the skin you got
Even if said ship never appears again.

It is purely a courtesy if they return it to you

880 gems anyways

after discount err

[remote parrot]

It wasn't 2018 gems. The bags cost $30 each.

[raven crater]

@topaz axle https://trello.com/c/Pwe7q440/325-turn-off-turn-based-movement-when-its-no-longer-needed (FYI)

Trello

Turn off turn-based movement when no longer needed

For maps that have moving enemies requiring turn based/limited movement, such as enemy sirens or other minibosses, the turn based movement mechanic should stop once there are no minibosses on the field.

Once all the minibosses are dead, it doesn't really serve a purpose anym...

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Very High Priority, OBT

[grave kettle]

Again, it is your fault for not understanding that it will not give you a skin that you want aka random. If anything, it would be unfair to all the other people that rolled lucky bags if they compensated you for that

[minor robin]

https://twitter.com/AzurLane_EN/status/1064941442978656256

Now you're just BSing

Azur Lane Official (@AzurLane_EN)

One-time purchase. Available after 11/22 update & ends 12/5, 11:59 P.M. (PST).
Nep's Lucky Bag: If you get existing skin, you’ll be refunded 80% of the gem cost.
Black Friday Lucky Bag: If you existing ship skin, you’ll be refunded 100% of the gem cost.

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[remote parrot]

I'd have to disagree but okay.

@minor robin How the fuck am I "BSing"? You just posted a image proving they were $30 each?

[minor robin]

2018 gems?

[remote parrot]

Look at the price tags.

[minor robin]

i said you paid for

[thick tartan]

You paid $30 for a pack that was completely transparent with what you get before you paid for it, it told you you’ll obtain so many gems and other items, and it said a random Neptunia skin and you got exactly that. It’s not the developers fault you failed to read properly

[remote parrot]

Then I misread. Apologies. I read that as I paid 2018 gems.

[tardy arch]

this is a nice figure 8 conversation
anyways he said to DM aki to ask if you could get a different skin. no use in continuing the conversation.

[south sequoia]

It's not about receiving product you can't use. At the end of the day, buying the lucky bag over directly buying the skin from Akashi means you accept that element of risk that you will get any skin from within the pool, regardless of whether or not you have the ship for it.

From what you have said, you have received the full value of what you paid for with regards to the lucky bag. The skin, whether it is useable or not, is now unlocked for your account. I'm not sure if buyer's remorse is an adequate reason for requesting a refund or a change in terms.

[remote parrot]

You all going to continue to try and argue this? Seriously?
You all gonna keep this gang up thing going on? Or let it go? I stated my point, said I'd contact Aki and try and get things worked out. More voices yelling does not equal a better point to make.

[tardy arch]

then contact aki. continuing to complain here won't help you.

[remote parrot]

@tardy arch More like a one sided conversation, with the other side being drowned out.

Does anyone have a screenshot or link of how much the GH skin cost if it had been bought directly on the gem skin store?

[minor robin]

880 gems x 80% = 704

[remote parrot]

Where did the 80% come from?

[naive cobalt]

sale

[minor robin]

sale?

[naive cobalt]

it was 20% off

[thick tartan]

They were on sale when the bag was available, so if you were to get a duplicate and receive gems instead you would receive the sale amount

[naive cobalt]

Also I want to ask people who have nothing to contribute to the discussion to not repeat same thing like 5 times by different person.

[remote parrot]

So the bag was $30, but I don't recall any sort of sale price being mentioned.

[naive cobalt]

Especially when it results in ganging up on someone

[remote parrot]

Did the bag go on sale near the end of the event? Or?

[naive cobalt]

nep skins were 20% off for the whole duration of the event

not the bag, skins

[remote parrot]

Ah okay. Got it. Thanks for clearing that up.

Umm so I am getting 176 for the discounted price at 20% but I know that's gotta be off.

880 x 0.20 = 176

[minor robin]

880-176=704

[remote parrot]

Thank you Ender.

Wait why'd you say 80% then?

[naive cobalt]

price is not AT 20%

it's 20% off

so 80%

[remote parrot]

Fuck I am rusty. xD

....Jesus Christ. Why the hell do you think saying any of that is event remotely helpful. That's called being toxic. Please take it elsewhere.

@naive cobalt Anything you can do?

[ornate basin]

this is a long discussion

[remote parrot]

@ornate basin And ToTu tried to take it to another level...

[ornate basin]

no point adding more comments

[remote parrot]

Agreed. DM sent to Aki. Just have to play the waiting game now.

@minor robin @naive cobalt @tardy arch Thank you for your help.

[naive cobalt]

[remote parrot]

Can we get a mod to remove this hate monger out of here?

[ornate basin]

dragging it on a little bit

[naive cobalt]

moving on is the best decision in this case

[remote parrot]

Apologies. Will stop and let Restart or another mod deal with it now.

[balmy fern]

Prehaps we can have something for unwanted skins and skins someone can’t use.
Exhance them for half their gem price or something else.

[young jetty]

Maybe a [Scrap Skins] option. But make the resulting items not worth it. So that people will hesitate to scrap the free skins of ships some people don't use

[naive cobalt]

Paid and free skins can just give different amount of stuff back

I like the idea, but it should be idiotproof

So people won't go "wa, I scrapped my limited skin, give back"

[minor robin]

Trade system for skins at 1:1

[naive cobalt]

nah

Trade-offs should always go down

Not 1:1

[hollow lagoon]

Easiest way I think would be only paid skins can be scrapped and refunded 50% of the gem cost. And no scrapping for free skins because they were free to acquire from quests anyway and would be real difficult to manage if they need to be reissued.

[ornate basin]

75%

[balmy fern]

When about to scrap a skin, have a warning notification pop-up before the player scraps their skin along the lines of ‘You are about to scrap <Skin>, after this is done you won’t be able to recover it, are you sure you wish to proceed?’

[faint hinge]

Doesn't that kind of uhh

Defeat the purpose of the monetization model if you can just recycle old skins for new ones

They're already dirt cheap compared to most games

[balmy fern]

Its more that people aren’t left dissatisfied with their purchace and either won’t buy anything again or quit the game entirely because of this.

However, exhancing skins for skins is a bad idea

I prefer some other scrapping income

[faint hinge]

I don't think that's a very compelling argument when most games have some kind of gacha powercreep where entire characters fall into obsolescence.

If you buy a skin, presumably you liked it in the first place and already got the value out of it

[viscid halo]

i agree with teh scrapping unwanted for a bit of other value back(plates, books, gold), but trading 1:1 or even 2:1 is a nono in my book.

[balmy fern]

There is no way of knowing with the sacks, what this entire discussion brought to be

Also following the crowd isn’t a good arguement either

[faint hinge]

The grab bags are a good deal in their own right. If you only want one thing, you have the option of just buying it normally

[balmy fern]

You are possibly left with an either unwanted or unusable product which is going to create dissatisfaction. Something to exhance the above mentioned skins would remedy the dissatisfaction somewhat.

Especially since its human nature to asume they are satisfied or dissatisfied with something based on their last expirience, since the skin is something you will look back on, their entire purchase will be dissatisfied because their last experience will always be the dissapointing skin.

When scrapping Limit broken ships, the amount medals received should be based upon the amount of LB’s the unit has (so in the case of ark royal, each lb should give you 4 more medals since each bulin/ark fodderd for lbing are worth 4 medals each.)

[viscid halo]

why would u wanna scrap a mlb bote?

[balmy fern]

Unused, replaced, other reasons people won’t use units anymore

[ornate basin]

I scrap them too, for the collection but I dont actually want them

[viscid halo]

then u should live with the decision that you MLB-ed a bote that you wont use

[balmy fern]

Why

[viscid halo]

its kinda expliotable if you can LB to save on dock space, use the LB bote for its benefits of being LB-ed and then still get full medal value when you scrap it (them).

[ornate basin]

I was thinking that same but im not sure I'd call it exploitable

[balmy fern]

You are still paying in gold, time and effort

Also saving full medal values? Why?

Its not like your medal amount has an expiration date

In fact you lose resources if you attempt to “save” medals with really no benefit unless the medal cap is very low, which it isn’t.

[minor robin]

I would label it as exploitable honestly

[naive cobalt]

I really don't see how.

you not getting more resources than if you just scrapped all of them

in fact you wasted a lot of oil and time

to exploit... medals?

[minor robin]

commissions are a thing
dock space really

[viscid halo]

my pov is that dock space and benefits of using an LB-ed bote.

[naive cobalt]

I would agree if not for the fact that you can't Lv. 1 MLB

[ornate basin]

I see it as dock space but its really the same thing as lb just to lb

[minor robin]

Anyways

It's a very pointless feature to add

[naive cobalt]

That's called "quality of life" feature

Medals aren't really that valuable

[minor robin]

You sure

[viscid halo]

i see as that the medals are part of the opportunity cost of LB-ing a bote, so this "feature" is just another way to make the game "cheaper".

[minor robin]

That's some T3 retro BPs you're wasting there

[ornate basin]

imo they rarely ever spawn

[minor robin]

pls, we had 3 of them within a week in avrora
i ran out of medals

this is the kind of desperate situation players will use this kind of sytem for

[naive cobalt]

[faint hinge]

I have like 600 medals rotting away

and I buy food with them...

[ornate basin]

I thought that stuff is clientside not serverside

[naive cobalt]

So... you just literally provided an example

How this can be used

[ornate basin]

I have tons of medals too sitting around, I use them for food and the occasional t3 that appears every 4 months

[faint hinge]

Also, does the medal exchange get newer ships in it?

[minor robin]

It doesn't

[viscid halo]

for now nope, unless JP or CN decide to change it.

[faint hinge]

Or is it still the OG bunch? Would be nice if that was updated if that's not the case

[ornate basin]

not any new since like 5 months ago

[naive cobalt]

My main point of reference is FGO, where they added same QoL and... balance is fine.

[ornate basin]

they added like warspite and... yeah thats like it

[viscid halo]

warspite wasnt og?

[naive cobalt]

Anyway, I need to go, I'll backread later.

[minor robin]

Imo it takes away the value from the game

[faint hinge]

she was

[ornate basin]

well I guess I just never saw her for years and then she appeared one day

[minor robin]

I don't really see why we should be encouraging such "qol"

[viscid halo]

IMO, qol should be convenience features such as auto continuing Academy training, not getting more resources.

[grave kettle]

LBing means you already fused the fodder ships tho so its practically gone already. It shouldnt add more medals when scrapping

[viscid halo]

Also, can we get that added as a suggestion?
Auto-training in the academy by using multiple books at once.

[ornate basin]

it was changed from one book at a time to one book at a time and then engaging another book right after so I dont think theyre going to change that anymore

[minor robin]

I don't see any loss in it tbh
It may take a while to implement but eh, why not

[viscid halo]

aww, thats sad. I hate timing the hours for training..

[knotty belfry]

I agree with with Ender, it would be exploiting dockspace where gems are used to expand (gems that are sold for real money). I also use the exchange shop for bps, 2 gold cruiser bps appeared consecutively, I'm now sitting on 9 medals after having close to 300 a few days ago.

[minor robin]

And before anyone says you can't lb a level 1 ship... It is extremely easy to get a ship to level 30 just from the daily commissions alone

[ornate basin]

[knotty belfry]

Yes, a lot of mine are around level 50 that I have.t used before

[ornate basin]

9 hour commission 2 times I believe is what it takes

[minor robin]

So while objectively it provides benefits, there are far too many abusable things

Not even major oil commission kawa, I'm talking about the 1-2h daily ones

[ornate basin]

should see me I have like 30 level 30 ships I am saving inven space AND expanding my collection

oh I know but its a lot more tedious and annoying to come back every 1-2 hours

[viscid halo]

implying youre not on the game 24/7 i need help

[minor robin]

Personally I think seks made the most valid point, the part about exploiting the use of gems

[ornate basin]

no I have a busy life that actually makes mobile gaming a chore to me but its fun in the long run so I do it anyways

[grave kettle]

calling it an exploit might not be accurate but i dont like the idea in the first place since LBing doesnt increase rarity and medals are based on rarity right?

[viscid halo]

ye, that was the whole point about the dock space issue. and yes, @grave kettle .

[ornate basin]

medals are based on rarity

[viscid halo]

its kinda like saying, if i decided to retire a retrofitted laffey, I should get 10 medals.

[minor robin]

Anyways I'm not gonna let restart take this suggestion

I will take the skill book one tho
Can't think of any obvious cons

[grave kettle]

retiring retrofitted ship what a madman

well obvious con for the skill book one is that it makes the 3rd academy slot less useful

[minor robin]

No as in he meant to auto queue

Like say I go to sleep, I can queue multiple 4h books

Example, I know 8h ones exist

[ornate basin]

I feel they wouldnt change it because they already have changed it once is what I said but I dont disagree with the feedback at all

[minor robin]

To be fair, most feedback are rejected

[grave kettle]

yes thats the whole point of the 3rd slot imo. less hassle and you reduce the downtime where you have to check skill timers. if you can queue multiple books then its very easy to level skills cos you dont have any "downtime"

i dont disagree at all but just pointing that out

[minor robin]

I always thought the idea of the 3rd slot was to train multiple skills at once but hmm
That's valid

[viscid halo]

ye I agree that its a very "hacky" QOL

[sturdy rapids]

i said event shop right? not GUILD shop? also I was defeating your idea of "management" since that is non existent in the other parts, so how is that an argument for the aux shortage? I like the idea of event shops featuring 2x more aux upgrade parts than the others. Aux parts are used by every ship in the game unlike guns, torps, anti-air which are specified to what kind of ship it is. And thats not the worst of it, every ship needs twice as much aux parts cause they have 2 slots for aux items. I'm sorry for bringing it up again but I was confused as to why this is a terrible/stupid suggestion since this is just some simple balancing of needs and resources.

But my main suggestion for now was to have your camera auto follow the vanguards in pvp. Like if say your vanguard dies, the camera auto follows the opponent's vanguard and if their vanguard dies then vice versa. If both dies at the same time then just leave the camera where it was last placed. Else just make the camera move to the main fleet of the player that lost his vanguard first.

[viscid halo]

I have a really dumb idea incoming.
Change the 5 small fleets daily mission to 5 any enemies or smth. Missions are supposed to give players a challenge and sense of accomplishment upon achieving them, the medium fleets and large fleets one can be maybe seen as "challenging" to newer players, but why am I being forced to go out of my way to hunt for small fleets which give less rewards and exp in order to get that much needed 150 oil?

[naive cobalt]

Missions are supposed to give players a challenge and sense of accomplishment upon achieving them

I do agree tho

[heavy mirage]

i know this has been suggested before but in case devs forgot it, we should do something bout the white and blue plates

[naive cobalt]

I'm sorry for bringing it up again but I was confused as to why this is a terrible/stupid suggestion since this is just some simple balancing of needs and resources. My main problem with that suggestion is that it assigns subjective "need" to objective "amount available". I personally have nothing against increasing aux parts, because yes, ships do have 2 slots, but it creates pretty nasty precedent of "we need to increase everything depending on how much it is needed". Which is really subjective. I personally don't ever have enough gun parts, so do we need to increase those as well? Should we remove blue parts because a lot of players have enough of those? What about BP? Should those be tied to amount of retrofits in-game? Or only "good" retrofits? That's why I think it's bad suggestion not worth discussing, especially when LFire suggested an alternative, that does neither of these things and solves problems. @sturdy rapids

Also I've added your suggestion about camera in pvp

[sturdy rapids]

oh so the issue is what it would imply... welp. Thats understandable. What was his suggestion?

[naive cobalt]

https://i.imgur.com/WLeWsny.png

oh, you mean LFire?

https://i.imgur.com/mjvLdvg.png

[balmy fern]

I still don’t get how my suggestion cheats the dock system unless people are truly this impulsive with spending medals that they have to save them in other forms which just sounds like a personal issue.

There is merit to rank affecting ships quanitity of medals when scrapped, but the amount of stars someone has is also a rank/rarity so it can be seen from both ways,

[naive cobalt]

I don't get it either, but I can't just ignore a lot of people opposing the idea for whatever reason

Especially when one of them is Ender

[balmy fern]

True but i feel like they have to elaborate their reasoning better

Why ender specificly?

[naive cobalt]

Because he's part of feedback team

[balmy fern]

We shouldn’t really ignore both sides either, prehaps this is something where the devs need a final say in since both sides bring up good points.

[naive cobalt]

That's what I'm thinking as well, add it but with minimal priority, because it implies controversial suggestion by our system

But I still want to discuss it with Ender first in DMs

[balmy fern]

Its not high-priority indeed, just QoL that would be nice to have down the line

[sturdy rapids]

oh hey thats a nice solution i guess

[balmy fern]

Also AL devs can consider both sides if they go through with the idea.
So the final product may be more balanced than the feedback.

[naive cobalt]

Diminishing returns is also one of the things I'm thinking about

[balmy fern]

Suggestion: when you finish Akashi’s gift streak (It ends after you receive the last reward, a golden bulin, in the mail) tapping Akashi in the shop won’t show hearts indicating you are raising her affection (since you have maxed it.)

[naive cobalt]

I have good news for you - that's exactly how it works and purin is not a last reward

[balmy fern]

Eeeehhhhhh?!

Welp, i have been misinformed, thanks for informing me

[naive cobalt]

I'm not 100% sure about the order, but pretty sure that Akashi stops giving hearts when at max affection

because people reported it as a bug numerous times

[balmy fern]

Atleast we have reliable feedback to know that everything works as intended

[velvet adder]

Option to show ships you have oathed so far in the Dock or Collection

Sometimes I forget my wives in the car

[ornate basin]

what is that supposed to mean

[jade surge]

(just imagined akagi scratching at the car windows as you go into starbucks)

[velvet adder]

This ^

[jade surge]

@ornate basin he wants an oath filter for either the dock or collection

[viscid halo]

they do show u tho

oh filter

[ornate basin]

well yeah I can understand english but the phrase at the bottom makes no sense

[jade surge]

oh well idk how to translate weeb into english

[velvet adder]

ever got a kid and u forget them in the car while u go into starbucks?

thats what i meant, in this case it's waifus

[viscid halo]

so its.. not literal or linked to the suggestion yes?

[velvet adder]

damn y'all dry af but yea my suggestion is above

[gilded seal]

random secretary option would be nice

every time you login a random ship would be choose as secretary

[rare jay]

It's been suggested. For the random secretary, that is

[jade surge]

rando secretary would have to be a toggled option though, cuz secretary actually affects things

[rare jay]

Oh definitely. It's been suggested as an 'option'. Not a mandatory setting

[jade surge]

but we would also need the "secretary screams azuru rain on launch" aswell

[gilded seal]

that one is a shocker but please keep it. I was in a public place and AAAAAAZZURRRRR LANEEEEE

[viscid halo]

How about a backline only auto option, meaning, you control vanguard movements and torps, but BBs and CVs will fire off on their own.

[normal vine]

on the topic of plate conversion: I did suggest a while back that it would be nice if we could craft higher-grade plates like we can with books and boxes

[rare jay]

I feel like i've seen the plate conversion in the feedback doc a while back. Was I mistaken?

[gilded seal]

but make it more expensive otherwise stuffs would be too easy, like 20- 1 ratio

[jade surge]

@viscid halo i would actually want the opposite more than anything

[gilded seal]

the frontline only and backline only auto would be neat, just incorporate both options lul

[normal vine]

@rare jay might be in the doc, yeah - hasn't made it into the trello yet, though ¯_(ツ)_/¯

@gilded seal 10:1 is enough, I'd say

[raven crater]

plate conversion is in trello

[jade surge]

cuz i could care less about my frontline, theyre gonna smash into all the toprs whether im controlling them or not, but i would like to stop my carriers from spamming their lifesaving bullet clears

[normal vine]

since you need more plates of higher quality, so 1k white plates give you 100 blue, but only 10 purple

[raven crater]

👀

[normal vine]

huh, doesn't show for me
I only get the first result

[raven crater]

The first result IS the plate conversion card

[normal vine]

yes, and I meant the second one

[raven crater]

try refreshing your page maybe?

[normal vine]

nope, still just one

[raven crater]

Can you at least see it if I link to it? https://trello.com/c/qxZdX85h/274-add-craft-upgrade-ability-for-upgrade-parts

Trello

Add craft upgrade ability for upgrade parts

Please add a craft option for upgrade plates for equipment, similar to how lower tier equipment boxes can be crafted into higher tier equipment boxes

Labels

OBT, High Priority

[normal vine]

that works, yes

[rare jay]

Do you have any label filters on when searching through the Trello?

[raven crater]

Oh, my two cents on the earlier discussion: I don't see any downside to letting people sell limit broken ships for the appropriate combined number of medals, but I don't see it as being that necessary to add either for reasons already mentioned. If you're limit breaking a ship, that means you have a purpose for it. Medals are a sort of consolation prize for scrapping rare ships you don't actually need. So getting more for a limit broken ship seems kind of pointless for me

[normal vine]

ooh ... it searches only card title, not card text, it seems ...

[raven crater]

Not true

[normal vine]

the search in the pop-out menu only searches title

[raven crater]

no it doesn't, that's what I just showed you

[normal vine]

also, that search is behaving really weirdly - if I search one word, it searches only in card titles, if I search a string of words, it searches in the card text as well

[raven crater]

Oh, it's because it's searching multiple boards

I think

when I do it

[normal vine]

like, if I only search for "week", it has no results, the card you posted only shows when I search "number of the week"