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[idle dagger]

It has many fighters

[viscid swift]

Not really.

W15/16 Support fleet is about all she's good for.

[undone plover]

u can check tierlist to compare her performance to other ships
she is "good" but not amazing
however she is top of meta for support fleet in ch15/ch16

[small kraken]

an AA carrier I see

[hollow void]

There are other options too

[viscid swift]

https://azur-lane-regal.suchiguma.com/

[idle dagger]

Good for specific role nothing more

[small kraken]

by support how to do that, you just put her on the fleet and chill?

[nocturne zenith]

Which of these characters is most recommended.. Sirius? Or Taihou solely cuz she's crazy and prolly has nice lines

[undone plover]

it is a ch15/ch16 specific mechanic
only usable in those 2 maps

[viscid swift]

W15/1\W16 only thing, don't worry about it.

[hollow void]

W15 and 16 have something called support fleet, which is just additional aa, forget about it unless you clear w14

[hearty trout]

guys let this friend get answer, i dont too get it beside get waifu

[undone plover]

oh wait belorussiya?
cheeky i am one step closer to 100%

[small kraken]

never seen that panel, where's that

aaah

[viscid swift]

Alliance Before the Hagiobull Event Guide

https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vQuChw6A7uYLnvG8cTZbZPFEm1mG9XI2hA6aqF21vyAw_P_V_V9oX7iFH_hwvtNcU2CLGHw8X_gWT-W/pub

[viscid swift]

@atomic abyss Pin please.

[wild patio]

For medals, should I just get the ships every time and retire them? Is that the best thing to do with the guild medals

[harsh mason]

get ships you dont have for fleet/faction tech, and the gold prints

[undone plover]

T4 gear part always
it is like 10x more important than anything else here
pick main gun or plane plates

other useful things are the skill books
and cognitive chips if they appear

[undone plover]

also dont forget u can refresh once per shop rotation for more

[small kraken]

among these 4, which is good, except for Odin ofc

[hollow void]

Considering you prob don't have guild tech purchased, I'd suggest not buying ships for medals till after you do that

[eternal basalt]

That's the guild shop. You ask about guild token or medals?

[idle dagger]

Nobody

[small kraken]

gosh darn

[hollow gust]

like none are worth rn, every single PR2 ship is better substantiallyy

[hollow void]

Pr3 still has no augs, so wouldn't invest for use atm only tech

[wild patio]

Is this enough or do i still need more

[hollow void]

More

[viscid swift]

You can burn through that pretty quick.

[undone plover]

honestly none are that amazing, pick any 1 and dev them for the rookie mission
champagne and odin have good level 120 tech
Disclaimer: the previous statement is merely a humble opinion and could be considered suboptimal advice by some elite gamers

[wind hazel]

cheshire is good because it allows you to get plymouth sooner

[hollow void]

Red books are used by the hundreds

[small kraken]

hence, among the pr 1-6, whom are good to research

[wild patio]

So I shouldnt get the ships with guild medals to retire them for the medals to get the ur bulin

[viscid swift]

Doesn't matter for PR3 just pick 1.

[shrewd cipher]

Are there any upcoming banners i need to look out for?

[small kraken]

got that combat data need to waste

[viscid swift]

No you do not.

[hollow void]

Did you get the guild tech you need?

[small kraken]

therefore, what ships from pr 1-6 that's good, currently I'm doing Agir

[wild patio]

I got the t4 main gun parts and the red books

[hollow void]

I'd get gen t3 plates and food also

[viscid swift]

New UR event drops tomorrow.

[small kraken]

noted

[nocturne zenith]

Oh... So you mean to save series 1-3 blue prints
Only coin them when needed if building.
And then scrap em

[hollow void]

Can get t2 book and assemble t3 books, tech box can be useful if new

[undone plover]

If by “Scrap” u mean convert the prints into protocore then yes

[eternal basalt]

Now reset and do it again

[undone plover]

Cheeky did u have a full shipyard prio guide?

[nocturne zenith]

So everyone's mediocore snd taihou and tashkent are kinda mediocore xD

[idle dagger]

.

[shrewd cipher]

What hour does the game daily server reset?

[hollow gust]

3AM EST

[eternal basalt]

9AM UTC

[hollow void]

In 16h and 41m approx <t:1779260400:t> whatever your local time is

[undone plover]

Roughly
Saint louis > anchorage > agir > plymouth > shimanto > nakhimov/mecklenburg depending if u are on pr7 or 8 focus (who is closer to dev30)
For other decent ships check tierlist
If any ship in that chain is not ready u can do filler anyone in the meantime
Disclaimer: the previous statement is merely a humble opinion and could be considered suboptimal advice by some elite gamers

[viscid swift]

Yeah that's from the PR Pack whaling section btw....

[exotic sorrel]

Oh wow Agir to Plymouth? Someone recommended to me Anchorage > Plymouth

[idle dagger]

By the way link doesn't open from phone

[viscid swift]

Try that.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vT41s8l8HPMD96X8xgiHjhCfcfss8Si1eLSEGgMbFHUn37oqKwb2JI7PX0iKsOvPJ6M8iYs06KyR7O9/pub

[idle dagger]

Works

[exotic sorrel]

I think my PR/DR choices went from Monarch>Roon>Anchorage>Plymouth>Ibuki>Shimanto

[ivory pawn]

Baltimore’s also in the medal shop btw.

[viscid swift]

Yeah fixed that.

[small kraken]

2 more to go, I just want to develop them ships that can be bought with coins

[nocturne zenith]

It's my first UR event and one of the URs is a sub :/

[hollow void]

UR sub will be shop

[neon condor]

Whats wrong with subs?

All I've seen is people saying how useless they are

[muted wind]

not necessary for anything and extra investment that new players can't really afford to do

[viscid swift]

I mean they're literally restricted from, half the content in the game.

[hollow void]

High investment low return

[neon condor]

[muted wind]

like, they are good if you can get past that, but like... eh. you can clear w16 without them.

[undone plover]

More x-fleet fodder

[hollow void]

I say this as someone that is about to finish leveling all of them

[viscid swift]

If she has a cross fleet.

[onyx flame]

my bad about that 2am and i was not reading correctly

[harsh mason]

i got through hard arbiter and challenge mode without them :|

[viscid swift]

Which is an if at this point.

[nocturne zenith]

Basically it'll be A LONG WHILE until I likely get to stage 14.
As I'll likely hit the wall after 12-4 and live there

[undone plover]

Some ppl do speedrun higher chapters
But most shouldnt yeah

[nocturne zenith]

So my need for a submarine is kinda... Eh
Ig hopeful the IB UR is better than Lion xD

[hollow void]

w14 can be done with no subs easy

[harsh mason]

u can do most content without subs

[idle dagger]

Submarines helps me a lot with arbiter. But I use same fleet for mobs and arbiter so

[nocturne zenith]

Even worse then...also you sir... I don't see what can stop you in this game

[harsh mason]

nah i 3* w14 and extreme challenge and hard arbiter with 0 subs u dont need them mostly

[hollow void]

Game is a casuel game, endgame is finding something to do

[harsh mason]

tbh getting decent ships to lv120/125 and putting decent gear on them gets u most of the way there

[muted wind]

i sometimes kill arbiters with one fleet and no subs so

[hollow void]

You can do w14 without pulling any ships, let alone subs

Not recommended

[nocturne zenith]

The Lion and Trafalgar event seems like a good combo of UR ships

[harsh mason]

lv125 and +13 UR gear i guess

[harsh mason]

yea i wish i didnt miss that event, theyre both strong ;_;

[inland shoal]

I mean if it was just not needing subs you can also clear content without any specific other ship
It's just that subs bring quite a lot less to the table for the same investment cost

[hollow gust]

game is piss easy, i spammed Royal navy past w15

[zenith heron]

Always has been

[hollow void]

Nope, p sure someone here did it in like 2 months old acc @inland shoal might remember, forgot name of person and they were in my guild

[harsh mason]

oh wtf

[viscid swift]

Somone cleared W15 on CN in what a week.

[hollow void]

When w14 was somewhat new

[inland shoal]

Uhh Aurora?

[nocturne zenith]

When do you get to hard arbiter?
I recently beat something called the observer... Maybe I'm mistaken with the name. Was some lvl 115 boss
Difficulty wise how do

[harsh mason]

the middle of the opsi map, you beat the normal arbiter and the hard arbiter comes out

[hollow void]

Idr, I've been gone too long

[harsh mason]

here

[neon condor]

Oh hey, Unicorn is in love with me now. Nothing to get a romance started like constantly forcing her into warzones

[nocturne zenith]

A 7.
Likely out of my current capabilities

[hollow void]

After clearing centre of opsi which is ch5, you unlock arbiter in that middle part, then it is harbiter after clearing normal arbiter

[ivory pawn]

Normal Arbiter you can do some damage, retreat and heal, and come back to do some more damage.

[neon condor]

Helena too, despite ditching her for a different ship and getting her sunk like 20 times.

[harsh mason]

u want level 120 ships to deal with it... i used 3 of these fleets to kill it

[hollow void]

Normal arbiter has unlimited attempts, harbiter has only your 4 fleets + subs

[onyx flame]

well its possible to nickel and dime normal arbi to death

[harsh mason]

in theory, but thats going to take a very long time

[nocturne zenith]

I fought the special zone siren where you go and have at it. Then wait 8 hours heal regroup etc.
Guess I'm weeks away from beating harbiter

[harsh mason]

you can go to port, spend the opsi coins to heal, use your mob fleet to reset the debuff, and attack again

[nocturne zenith]

Or months..

[inland shoal]

You really have
Sadly I have the memory of swiss cheese so idk either

[hushed sorrel]

thats a good thing. makes rewatching the same stuff worthwhile

[hollow void]

Usually your comp would be better by time you unlock, can't say what by time of unlocking arbiter is now since I started alt during newbie event

[nocturne zenith]

This is who I beat... In multiple attempts...
Harbiters are... How much upwards in difficulty would ya say?

[harsh mason]

twice as hard maybe

[hollow void]

Unintentional didn't notice how much time passed by too

[muted wind]

tbf i think the light armor bosses are generally more annoying to deal with

[hollow void]

What c level? Also usually the annoyance is less of the boss itself, more of the modifiers, some modifiers make the bosses annoying af to fight

[ivory pawn]

Greatly.
But Harbiter is one of the hardest fights in the game, even if it’s a joke for veterans these days. So no need to rush clearing it, you’ll get there eventually.

[idle dagger]

Somehow normal arbiter hits harder than hard arbiter for me

[harsh mason]

harbiter rewards arent as good as normal arbiter if i rmb correctly? its not a huge deal if you arent able to get it

[muted wind]

try harbiter even if you can't kill it, you get partial rewards for certain hp% breakpoints still

[hollow void]

normal arbiter has diff modifiers than harbiter which is why

[nocturne zenith]

I honestly forgot whether she was 4 or 5.
I just beat her today.

[muted wind]

oh. yeah that goes up to 6

[harsh mason]

i got 2 out of 3 fleets decimated by harbiter, though my fleets are mostly random and i dont exactly build a fleet to kill harbiter specifically

[hollow void]

normal arbiter does do more damage than the harbiter this month

[muted wind]

... interesting design choice, never noticed that

[nocturne zenith]

I did take an ss of the rewards though lol

[hollow void]

Yeah, then much more difficult, esp if underleveled fleet since level advantage plays against you more

[inland shoal]

Correct

[hollow void]

Harbiter rewards mostly for reset shop

[inland shoal]

Oh my chat got stuck

[nocturne zenith]

But harbiter clear is required to finish the opsi story snd get thr shop yes?

[muted wind]

no

[hollow void]

No, opsi reset occurs after chapter 4

[harsh mason]

huh the shop is available all month

[hollow void]

Chapter 5 isn't even needed for the monthly reset

[hushed sorrel]

the shop is something one needed to unlock

[hollow void]

No, resets only happen once chapter 4 opsi is cleared

[harsh mason]

ah my bad didnt know

[hollow void]

If someone doesn't clear chapter 4, they keep on same map

[nocturne zenith]

After chap 4 oh ok...
Then it's aight

[idle dagger]

Newbies in OpSi have own shop

[muted wind]

what were your adaptability stats like here anyways?

[nocturne zenith]

Ass. Lemme see

[idle dagger]

No, sorry not shop. Port shop

[hollow void]

Also newbies get 1 free meta fight call, so if you want to fight level 15 early, just make an alt to get level 15 meta fight 1 day early

[harsh mason]

hi guys what are we thinking about these

[hollow void]

It is the old port shop, system was purchase to clear out shop stock as it only showed a limited selection randomly per day while stock is fixed

[harsh mason]

rearranged my ships and stuff mostly, i have some other ships but these are at least levelled up

[muted wind]

ah. yeah, that makes sense now. if it was high enough, you probably would've taken half damage and the boss would've had half hp. roughly.

[idle dagger]

Ok, sorry for misinformation

[muted wind]

i don't remember what adaptability you need for the abyssals. ~170 is the max needed for strongholds, so probably a bit lower than that

[nocturne zenith]

Yeah I lowkey was thinking of waiting but it was red and got me curious

[inland shoal]

Wasn't stronghold 188?

[muted wind]

177?

[muted wind]

yeah nvm stronghold was 188

[hollow void]

Stronghold is 188/188/144

[inland shoal]

Good at least one thing I remember correctly

[idle dagger]

.

[muted wind]

it's probably just me entering at 170 anyways because... well... i can afford to lol

[hollow void]

I enter at like 100 usually? or whatever oil + reset shop gives

[inland shoal]

Idk when I last entered a stronghold

[idle dagger]

150 with purple tunings

[muted wind]

i mean, it's doable earlier, but i may as well wait until it's easier/faster

[hollow void]

I just do it if guild missions active or I wanna save oil

[nocturne zenith]

What are the green and yellow missions for?
If colors are off then it's cuz I'm colorblind

[muted wind]

green are missions. yellow are the other coordinates

[hollow void]

Yellow is hidden zone, green is daily quests

[viscid swift]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vRPJgxnXwC4r3Z8AlbzPUhHDXt0Dr7KP4TPriFnGafQrt1wE7Jb5AdRgfy8tXaLpTC-CtYAVMZgJE0g/pub

[muted wind]

well, they don't have daily missions yet? so... must be other missions lol

[hollow void]

Oh right, forget opsi had other missions I'm too old

[nocturne zenith]

I was searching for this in the tags in the bot spam a few days ago.
Bless ya

[hollow void]

Or wasn't daily missions from ports in old system, can't recall

[muted wind]

uh... they... were? but you still had to unlock that, no?

[hollow void]

Idr, last new time I tried being newbie was when Lil E launched

[idle dagger]

There were just missions for move through OpSi if I remember right

[hollow void]

[idle dagger]

Storylike

[nocturne zenith]

They cost 0 AP.
Those were orange ig

[viscid swift]

Yeah none of my doc guides are in any bot commands.

[hollow void]

Yeah, then given missions, 0 ap is reserved for missions

[nocturne zenith]

I don't see em on my map... Likely need more zones cleared

[nocturne zenith]

So all pinned here?

[viscid swift]

Not pinned either.

[idle dagger]

Would be good if they were added

[onyx flame]

i made a message containing all of cheeky doc so if you just seach cheeky doc/guide it should appear in here at least

[nocturne zenith]

Cheeky doc/guide

[onyx flame]

either cheeky doc or cheeky guide take your pick

[nocturne zenith]

Damn I'm a discord noob huh

[onyx flame]

as in in here if your on pc

[idle dagger]

Right up corner, search button from phone

[nocturne zenith]

Yeah I figured that out.. I thought they meant it was a command... I'm discord dumb

[neon condor]

Is it worth it to buy Hazelwood for 2000 guild coins for my boss fleet?

[muted wind]

no

if a ship in the guild shop isn't mentioned in a guide, they're probably just collection/tech

[idle dagger]

No

[nocturne zenith]

I bought Jamaica when i started the game and I now wanna hurl insults st myself for doing so.

So no.. Only unicorn really worth it. Rest are fleet tech things mostly.

[muted wind]

i mean, pennsylvania if you're new and need a BB, and helena are also useful

... well, and portland? since you need to upgrade her anyways but i don't remember whether the game just gives her to you

[neon condor]

I have them, I just wanted to start my boss fleet since I'm almost at level 9

My fleet 1 is Pennsylvania, Long Island, Unicorn, Portland, Javelin, and Helena...so basically just what the started guide told me to equip

[viscid swift]

Might wanna wait until after you roll on the event tomorrow.

[harsh mason]

cant wait for the event tomorrow

[idle dagger]

Want to grab Moritz and z14

[harsh mason]

just rearranged and assigned cats for opsi again, anyone got any thoughts (these are basically all the ships i have)

guam is lv124 but she is also 0lb so i am not gonna use her (for the foreseeable future (1-2 months))

[viscid swift]

I'd go Alsace, Zwei, Vanguard, Z52, Helena, Plymouth as your primary boss fleet.

And you need to get Kazagumo.

[harsh mason]

if she appears in my shop yeah sure, i guess i can reallocate sandy to take helena's place, and unzen to take z52's place for the 1st and 4th fleets?

[viscid swift]

Sure.

[harsh mason]

damn the harbiter shield sucks to deal with

left with 5% hp for my third fleet to cleanup, good enough

[idle dagger]

Don't you have submarines to help?

[harsh mason]

nah i have 0 submarines LOL

[idle dagger]

Even this with subs kills. I didn't even pay attention for their skills work together. And Lion in pvp gear. Submarines give good impact at harbiter. Don't take fleet as recommendation for anybody

[harsh mason]

i use the same gear setup for harbiter, campaign, pvp, extreme challenge, etc because im kind of lazy; i dont like to build subs because 1. theyre so annoying to gear and 2. theyre so annoying to level up, ill probably do the new upcoming UR submarine as my first

[idle dagger]

Me too lazy to change gear all the time. I like subs because they are always same gear

[forest palm]

I'm freakin lazy an all of that is easy...

[harsh mason]

there are levels to laziness

[forest palm]

Nah....

[idle dagger]

Subs worth. Level 3 of them set gear and forget about them

[forest palm]

PvP you just have to participate and nothing else, first 13 worlds can be done with low effort and base game gear, Challenge modes can be ignored to a degree, Arbiter doesn't need much these days. So, all that aside gearing ships is just a matter of copy pasting a build

[harsh mason]

i think submarines are kindof a chore to level up tbh, and ive never gotten around to making use of them or felt that i need it to clear content (yet), at w15 rn maybe that will change

[idle dagger]

You are grinding 12-4 just set autocall subs

[harsh mason]

oh i didnt even know that was a setting

[forest palm]

you have to set it up

[idle dagger]

Kidding?

[harsh mason]

im deadass bro ive basically never looked at subs

[forest palm]

I don't use subs either

[idle dagger]

I remember early there was campaign for subs and later after back to game didn't find it. Was it deleted or I can't search?

[hoary relic]

that's weekly raid for sub

[idle dagger]

No I don't mean raid. It was another window in campaign

[forest palm]

Sometimes you have to manually turn on Auto Submarine for Auto Call to work

[hoary relic]

i havent seen anything like that , r u even sure there are any campaign for sub lol

[tulip tinsel]

wasn't there some X stage or smth that got removed?

[forest palm]

SoS or X-5

[tulip tinsel]

that

[idle dagger]

I started play when Shima appeared. And remember there was in campaign thing for subs

[hoary relic]

then it probably got removed

[forest palm]

yes, SoS got yeeted into the sun

the Weekly Raid replaced it btw

[idle dagger]

Yes

[sinful relic]

hey how many hours till the maintenance? im in aussie time so no clue

[viscid swift]

15 hours off still.

[idle dagger]

15

[sinful relic]

ohh so 15 hours and then another 8?

[viscid swift]

Probably.

[forest palm]

something like that

[idle dagger]

15 until maintenance and 8 maintenance

[forest palm]

game could implode extending maint

[plucky tapir]

Now, if my units are lv 80-85, which hard map zone should I be doing?

Need to do x-4 for cv retrofit parts. But not sure which area I should attempt.

[idle dagger]

Hardest you can. Higher number more cores

[forest palm]

the highest you can farm

[plucky tapir]

Do I lose attempts if I fail?

Thats really the part I'm worried about.

[viscid swift]

Not if you don't finish the boss fight.

[plucky tapir]

Thanks.

[hard mesa]

I guess gearlab update wont be added on tomorrow maint?

[hollow void]

<t:1779260400:t> this should be local time wherever you are

[viscid swift]

That's not expected until June.

[soft raft]

You can also read the patchnotes in #game-news for yourself to see if it was mentioned or not

[hard mesa]

Oh, ok. Making sure i'm not missing anything with EN patchnotes

[soft raft]

The only thing EN patchnotes dont include when compared to JP is the "Future Content" blurb

[whole crypt]

lab update kind of happens in the later weeks of the anniv doesn't it

[ivory pawn]

Iirc it was 3rd week last time. Which, conveniently, will be in June.

[fossil lark]

is sheffield or admiral graf spee any good?

[ivory pawn]

Neither are notable.

[viscid swift]

You were saying.

[forest palm]

ya know I feel as though being able to unlock all ships at once could crash the game if you have a larger dock

[boreal wagon]

dw the game already does that without that

[hollow void]

Want me to test?

[forest palm]

the feature isn't in game

[hollow void]

I know when added

Will have 2.5k ships by then

[forest palm]

if you want to

[sinful relic]

waddahek?

[hollow void]

Normal stuff dock limit is 4k now

[boreal topaz]

guys, who should i lb first, i just redownloaded after a few months break

[eternal basalt]

Wait for tommorow

[whole crypt]

besides that please stop spreading out your LBs

[inland shoal]

(Unless it was all done with dupes)

[eternal basalt]

William D Porter definitely wasn't

[forest palm]

nor was Laffii

[eternal basalt]

If base event + rerun it could...

[boreal topaz]

im not that sweaty yall

[sweet delta]

Not being sweaty is all the more reason to buy mogador skins consolidate your limited UR bulins on few best URs

[onyx flame]

or at least consolidate them in general

[eternal basalt]

(which we don't know is or isn't IB BB/Sub)

[hollow void]

1 mlb > 2lb2

[viscid swift]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vTRJeUvu195lF7nGi0tqn39NdvCDq7TFac83vepK9s29OXA_8pWq6z5SH8lHoOmYIC0lQxRoJ1j2HBe/pub

Just gonna highlight this portion of the newbie guide.

All ships are garbage at 0 limit break. A 0 Limit Break New Jersey is worse than a Max Limit Broken Nevada.

Even a 2 limit break UR will struggle to do better than a Max Limit Broken SR.

UR Bulins are heavily time-gated. You will get on average 2.5 UR Bulins a month. Accounting for events, that’s around 38 UR Bulins a year.

Between 6 and 7 new URs are released per year, with a similar number rerun in the same time period.

You will not get enough UR Bulins to max limit break all the event URs, let alone the permanent URs, so you have to prioritize.

The permanent URs are, on average, weaker than newer URs. So Cubes and Bulins would be better spent on Event URs.

[sinful relic]

do we know how much new l2d skins cost?

i was thinking of getting the amagi cv, and new UR One

[eternal basalt]

~1200

[sinful relic]

thats cheaper than i thought ngl. i was praying they werent 2k

[eternal basalt]

~1860 is Mogador

[sinful relic]

which one is mogador?

[forest palm]

the one skydiving

[eternal basalt]

Coming to a rerun after this event

[sinful relic]

ahh the skydiving one, yeah no as much as i want to, im not a huge fan of her big melons doing whatever theyre doi ng

[eternal basalt]

And she's the free UR!

[neon condor]

Gmod ragdoll physics

[sinful relic]

i thought it was hilarious though

[sinful relic]

ooh!

free is laways welcomed (aslong as i dont spend cubes)

btw whats the max oil reserve for claiming?

[eternal basalt]

25k is the hardcap

[sinful relic]

what about the limit for the claiming from canteen

[undone plover]

It is whatever u have on the ui between 6-15k on average iirc

And canteen limit is 3600 at max level

[neon condor]

Huh, the cat girl is sending me on a scavenger hunt

[eternal basalt]

That's variable... check the number above your oil

[sweet delta]

It's a trap

[neon condor]

Gives me something to do while waiting for morale

[sweet delta]

Dilute your light banner pool of SRs by a 🤏 and only gives 9 tech points

[eternal basalt]

It's 18750 for me, above the 15k Faerlin said (and my guild isn't even on max)

[neon condor]

Alright that's a bit unique. This is gonna take a while though

Still, I'm a sucker for this kinda thing

[gloomy kiln]

Who is the 2 or 3 best research/shipyard vanguard?

[sweet delta]

Shimanto above Gouden that's just because chapter 14 mob weighting

[gloomy kiln]

Thank you

Almost done with gouden

[cerulean tangle]

what the fastest way to speedrun throught data collection

[eternal basalt]

Just do 12-4, similar as XP farming

[weary edge]

is hard arbiter usually like, not that hard? because i feel like it's not that much harder than normal arbiter, i went in to test the waters and was expecting to get bent over but i actually took it out in 3 battles

[forest palm]

that's about right, a lot of the difficulty comes from a lack of tuning

[weary edge]

ah yeah, i waited till i was at max effective tuning before attempting so maybe that's why

[quick mason]

Does this work to roon?

[plucky tapir]

Stockpiling oil now for the event.

[wild patio]

Whats the best box to have eagle royal sakura or iron blood

[forest palm]

USS Tech Boxes

[wild patio]

Whats that i dont see it here

[forest palm]

Eagle

[wild patio]

IS this worth 5k gold

Are these level packs in the shop worth the gems? Do people actually buy these or no

[tulip tinsel]

no

[exotic sorrel]

Since I have Moskva it's best to get Nakhi over Mecklenburg right

[neon condor]

Finally at 9-X

[onyx flame]

unless you have like the la9 for her comp, i would still prefer meck

[wild patio]

My fleet is not good enough to go past chapter 9 😔 i tried 10-1 and they just die

[exotic sorrel]

Oh no I don't have the La-9 😔💔

[exotic sorrel]

Show us your fleet maybe we can see what's wrong

[wild patio]

Its really bad i dont know what im doing they all have bad gears equipped 😔 1 sec

[neon condor]

Can you get the Defeat all enemies star in clear mode?

[wild patio]

nope

[exotic sorrel]

In hard mode? It'll always make you face the boss node so no

[exotic sorrel]

I find it hard to believe you'd struggle on doing chapter 10... Can you make a thread and show us the gears of the ships you use on them?

[split ledge]

Does anyone have a recommendation for 13-4? Just returned after 265 days

[onyx flame]

https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/progression-guide/#chapter-13

[onyx flame]

0lb zuikaku with no gear no wonder

[wild patio]

Is that a good character

[viscid swift]

Remove the 0 limit break ships and fix your gear.
https://azur-lane-regal.suchiguma.com/

Or rather equip them in quite a few cases.

[rain vine]

just facing the boss in clear mode counts as all enemies

[wild patio]

It say zuikaku is D tier....

maybe better to remove zuikaku

I want all S tier

[viscid swift]

No you don't, not at this stage anyway.

For now, just refer to REGAL for gear references.

Level advantage is significant. For every level your ship is above the enemy, she takes 2% less damage and deals 2% more damage. This stacks up to 50% at a difference of 25 levels. The inverse is also true; if your ship is underleveled, she performs that much worse.

All ships are garbage at 0 limit break. A 0 Limit Break New Jersey is worse than a Max Limit Broken Nevada.

Even a 2 limit break UR will struggle to do better than a Max Limit Broken SR.

Also, my dude, there's only so much we can handhold.

[wild patio]

But i have musashi and hakuhou and yorktown if i max limit break those three then i wll have Full S tier squad

[viscid swift]

If you can max limit break them which from what I've seen of your dock is a very big if.

[glass quest]

sup y'all, could anyone help a brother out by telling me what fleet they're using against the current META ship?

[viscid swift]

Second, you do not need a full fleet of URs to clear through W12.

[wild patio]

I have 1 ur bulin 😭

[viscid swift]

3rd,

[rain vine]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kyRZAxIoNRUuDohNpfx2WXK_R6XYRddKWGFDEs5MXXA/edit?tab=t.0

[viscid swift]

And 4th, even if you did magically have the Bulins for them they'd still fail because.

You have at least one fleet, which on paper at least, has the ability to smash through W12 but fails spectacularly because half the ships aren't geared at all.

If you haven't already, read this.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vTRJeUvu195lF7nGi0tqn39NdvCDq7TFac83vepK9s29OXA_8pWq6z5SH8lHoOmYIC0lQxRoJ1j2HBe/pub

[round sparrow]

how does one even survive without gear

[weak crane]

Is this game good for new players

[wild patio]

Ok ill read it gear them up and see what happens i probably have better fully limit break characters in my dock that i can use but ill just stick with this

[wild patio]

Its cool but im slow in the head so its taken me a while I just bother people in here for help

[viscid swift]

a MLB ship is always better than a 0 LB.

[viscid swift]

Good for new players?

[weak crane]

Is its f2p

friendly

[viscid swift]

Yeah, very.

[hollow void]

Long as you don’t waste f2p gems on skins

[viscid swift]

If you want an idea of what the game is like I'd give this video a watch.
https://youtu.be/dYTRZIop0O0?si=ZknepVLdde9zrPJc

Just ignore a lot of the technical details, they're wrong.

[weak crane]

What a good new player guild

[wild patio]

i did this

[viscid swift]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vTRJeUvu195lF7nGi0tqn39NdvCDq7TFac83vepK9s29OXA_8pWq6z5SH8lHoOmYIC0lQxRoJ1j2HBe/pub

[hollow void]

Can join my guild

[exotic sorrel]

My Hood's skin costing 1k+ gems on a serious note if you want the best out of your gems for quality don't ever spend them unless you really insist on giving your fav ship a skin...

[proven copper]

Can someone please tell me, how I can get this?

[white agate]

operating the sirens

[upper geyser]

The easiest way to get those is via operation siren

Most any upgrade mats are done in that mode. Just takes some stage clears and you can buy em.

[viscid swift]

The only way really.

[proven copper]

Ok, thank you.ツ

[regal flax]

how can i get 13 specialized cores quick?

[upper geyser]

Medal shop.

[upper geyser]

Can just spend a few medals for quick and easy cores, assuming you haven't bought them for the month.

[neon condor]

Well I think I'm stuck on 9-1 without a boss fleet, so I might as well just wait until tomorrow to see who I get from the gacha instead of trying to farm, right?

[viscid swift]

Yep.

[rapid grail]

wait, isn't the prelude tomorrow after maint? event should be in the week after

[viscid swift]

What, beth the event drops tomorrow.

[rapid grail]

??????????

[viscid swift]

Yeah.....

Call to Arms was last week.

[rapid grail]

I thought the event's gonna drop next week

[upper geyser]

Nope. Its tomorrow. Lets pray for some solid UR gear.

[rapid grail]

whatever im not going to log in, i have finals next week nvm fuck it. let's do some gaming while i calc shit

[upper geyser]

And hopefully its not gonna be some sort of sub gear.

[viscid swift]

There won't be any new gear this time.

[upper geyser]

Aww. Is there anything to get of sorts beyond just the UR itself then?

[viscid swift]

The usual really, cognitive chips, gold plates, etc.

[weary edge]

goodluck, calc is the just start of it gang lock in 😭

[strong tartan]

are we getting new gear in the event shop I didn't watch the stream

[plucky tapir]

Should I use my oil and push for levels or start saving it to be at maximum supply for the start of the event?

My highest level ship is lv 89 at the moment. The lowest lv is 81.

[inland shoal]

Luckily key moments from the stream are captured in #cn-9th-anniversary-livestream-chat (I forgot)

[inland shoal]

Hm how far are you in the campaign?

[plucky tapir]

7-4.

[inland shoal]

Welp idk what the best course of action is then tbh, but I doubt you'll be able to fully clear the event like this

Though the event is 3 weeks which is a considerable amount of time

[plucky tapir]

I think i can clear 7-4 and continue pushing now. I was going back and getting 3 star on the maps to get the extra rewards.

[strong tartan]

ah okay i couldnt find the channel, is the gear lab update this patch or are they just announcing it now?

[plucky tapir]

(Getting access to the better hard maps mainly)

Thanks for nuking that.

But yeah, I was trying to do lv 6 hard earlier but I could not meet the trp stat requirement. (Torpedo?)

[inland shoal]

I think that's from the future content section

[inland shoal]

Yeah I think that's probably best
But it won't make much of a difference considering the event maint starts in a bit over 8h

[plucky tapir]

True. But still, I want to do the best I can in the event to obtain as much of the high priority stuff possible.

[sweet delta]

You have 3 weeks, a bit of farming should get everything relevant

[plucky tapir]

Gotcha. I'll go ahead and push the campaign then.

Oh, does weekly reward reset on updates or does that stay the same?

[inland shoal]

Weekly things in this game reset on Mondays

So independent from maint

[plucky tapir]

good to know. Just wanted to make sure I did not miss out on that.

[gilded hare]

I just unintentionally got the last tech points with Columbia from farming 11-4, this team should be good enough right? I was able to get the 1m exp very quickly

Can't farm 12-4 because I'm only captain 78 😔

[strong tartan]

good to know

[viscid swift]

You do know you're not saving any oil with that fleet right because of the oil caps.

[gilded hare]

Oh... So do I need to go on full fleet...?

[viscid swift]

You'd be gaining more XP at no additional cost.

Also don't farm with max level ships in W11/W12.

[sweet delta]

I would also recommend not using level 125 ships in farming

[gilded hare]

Ohh okay got it, I'll replace my Laffey with Eldridge then because she's only 103, thanks!

, and my other main ships that also need to be leveled up

[viscid swift]

You can also drop Unicorn.

[gilded hare]

Will they really be able to survive without a healer?

[viscid swift]

In W12 on safe yeah.

[gilded hare]

Okay thanks I'll try it

[exotic sorrel]

I'm more surprised that your 3cv fleet can survive against many bomb boats

[wind island]

talk about suffering from success

[plucky tapir]

how many gems do I need to save for the second floor of the dorm? 500? The rest I'll most likely yeet into dock space?

[ivory pawn]

That's the beauty of w12, there are no bomb boats!

[agile pewter]

Its ok to spam pulls at the start of the event right? As opposed to doing one a day and the rest on the last day

I don't have many quick finishers so I'm worried that I can't build in time

[viscid swift]

Well the latter is more efficient since you'd save some cubes by utilizing the daily mission.

[ivory pawn]

Do at least 3 a day until you're done pulling. Whether that's 3, 10, 50, or even 200 is up to you.

If you do 10 a day, you'll reach pity with a day or two remaining.

[tidal meteor]

Is datamine still banned?

[ivory pawn]

Datamine is unbanned, it's leaks that are banned.

[vale spindle]

for the purposes of this channel, if its not a lore-releated datamined content, its fine

[still knot]

Is 200 cubes is enough to get a Ur ?
My wallet got wasted lol XD

[hot turret]

I'd say yes but that's probably because I got lucky so far, I always had the UR on the first 5 ten pull

[exotic sorrel]

He's farming on 11-4 I'm pretty sure those spawn 3 bomb boats

[still knot]

Kk

[hot turret]

Either way I only have 238 cubes rn so good luck to both of us lol

[ivory pawn]

Oh. I'm amazed he's surviving against bomb boats with that fleet then.

[viscid swift]

You need 400 to hit pity.

The rate isn't bad but you never know.

[ivory pawn]

Can get a lot of cubes in 3 weeks, along with the 200 should get pretty close.

[wary saffron]

What should I buy with this currency that’s good for these ship girls

[plucky void]

What are you lacking in aux?

[wary saffron]

Aux?

[forest palm]

only thing in the Limited Core Data shop that's a prio is the Fire Control Table

there's a sheet for the other Core Data shop, but don't have it on hand

[wary saffron]

Haven’t spent shit with this currency so idk

[ivory pawn]

/coredata

[odd root]

https://www.azurlaneecgc.com/images/equip_misc/Core_Data_Priority.jpeg

[wary saffron]

What should I buy that can be useful in any way

[viscid swift]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vS7zn4MdZchMLgQ2XD7LazlGMBm1YrNWbYNAcvt7g5PYc6tj4AXaJXl7PpAyDQ_IEbdwEH7Rpmy3C50/pub

[wary saffron]

This is not helping😭

This just makes me more confused

[plucky void]

go over to the next Core slot that resets each month

[wary saffron]

These

[sweet delta]

How are two shop priority guides not helping 😭

[viscid swift]

Just go down to the core data shop section.....

[sweet merlin]

When is maint?

[ivory pawn]

In 7 hours.

[wary saffron]

I’m there

[ivory pawn]

In the guide, right?

[wary saffron]

Brother I’m not familiar with this games shit I don’t know where to start and what to do

[plucky void]

yes. now, refer to the picture the bot posted, go down from top to bottom

[viscid swift]

The guide literally has everything in broad priority categories and brief descriptions of what they're good for.....

[plucky tapir]

I think the core data shop rotates around, so you wont always see every item

[wary saffron]

Yes yes I see these

[ivory pawn]

It does not.

[plucky void]

no rotation, just refresh

[plucky tapir]

Ah.

[sweet delta]

Could mention AFCT is in limited tab

[plucky tapir]

was able to find those easy enough though tbh.

kind of stares right at you right at the top of that page.

[wary saffron]

Ok new question How tf do I make Unzen oneshot people I need some actually item names and not a guide that contains 30 different items(what should I change)

[ivory pawn]

So you prioritize getting the higher images. The text goes over why, but it's really just get 2-3 of each, besides Independence (shipgirl, dupes aren't worth) and cog chips/arrays (get 'em all).

TLDR: Buy the Type 1 AP Shell (White Shell) from Core (Mo.), buy Cognitive Chips and Arrays from same tab, buy Independence same tab, then buy Admiralty Fire Control Tables from the Ltd tab. Well, might be an argument for getting Tables before Independence.

[viscid swift]

Getting her to max limit break would be a start.

[wary saffron]

I know working on that

[ivory pawn]

Give her Quad Mags if you're playing on auto.

[wary saffron]

I can if I want to but someone told me to save up for better

[ivory pawn]

Preferably Improved, if you have them.

[wary saffron]

Tf is quad mags😭

[viscid swift]

I'll make it real simple for yah.

Grab 2 of each of these first.

[wary saffron]

You mean torpedo shit?

[wary saffron]

Thank you finally bro thank you

[viscid swift]

And refer to this for gear loadout reccomendations.

https://azur-lane-regal.suchiguma.com/

[wary saffron]

I have quintuple ones

[plucky void]

that's only for core data.

[wary saffron]

Isn’t a quintuple better

[sweet delta]

What guide recommends that over quad mags

[viscid swift]

Bad ones.

[wary saffron]

How do I get them

[ivory pawn]

Non-homing, they're fine as a budget option if you lack the torps I just shared.

[plucky void]

he's not speccing for DPS, peeps. looking for alpha

[wary saffron]

A guide I never read

[viscid swift]

You might wanna give that a read.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vTRJeUvu195lF7nGi0tqn39NdvCDq7TFac83vepK9s29OXA_8pWq6z5SH8lHoOmYIC0lQxRoJ1j2HBe/pub

[wary saffron]

Holy so many guide links I’ll have to save them all

Now how the fuck do I get improved quad mags

[stone lava]

is there maintenance later?

[viscid swift]

You can't they're event limited.

[wary saffron]

Fuck my life why don’t they

[viscid swift]

Regular ones you can get from IB tech boxes.

[ivory pawn]

In 7 hours.

[stone lava]

thx

[wary saffron]

Anyways what about auxiliary

[viscid swift]

https://azur-lane-regal.suchiguma.com/ship/605

[plucky void]

depends on your build. the newbie guide says get stuff that lets your ships survive better

get health for DDs+CLs, EVA for CLs and CA's.

[wary saffron]

I’m actually gonna cry this feels like a collage project

[plucky void]

I'm afraid it's going to get worse

[viscid swift]

I mean we have gear reccs premade for you.

Even catered to different types of content.

[wary saffron]

Appreciate the effort saving that

[wind island]

"i'm gonna cry this is too hard"

"i'm gonna cry sushi is making this too easy"

duality of man

[wary saffron]

No shit I’d rather do my assignments than that Yall be speaking a language even aliens don’t understand

[viscid swift]

And REGAL has them for every ship in the game.

[wary saffron]

More like confusing

[wary saffron]

Thanks send me link

I’m gonna need that

[viscid swift]

I have bloody twice now.

[wary saffron]

https://tenor.com/view/brutal-kitty-battle-kitty-battle-kitten-attack-kittens-fight-gif-17585959799449686003

[wary saffron]

My bad bruh😭

Anyways thanks everyone probably fucked yalls brain by now 🙏🏻

[plucky void]

yay. you've cost me 20 mins of exercises. get them done before the refresh.

[wary saffron]

Get what

[wary saffron]

Couldn’t find the second one

[plucky void]

also, I've been working my way through the filters, can you explain how they are organized?

[plucky tapir]

The pvp currency.

[viscid swift]

It's in the limited core data shop.

[plucky tapir]

1,500 points, iirc, and right near the top

[wary saffron]

This to be exact?

[plucky void]

yes

[wary saffron]

Well there goes all my money

Oh guess what I’m broke on the money now

Should’ve bought that first

[plucky tapir]

shells are more important though if you got those.

[wary saffron]

Got the shell first

[plucky void]

eh, it'll stay right there. monthly is more pressing, the limited can be delayed if you need stuff from monthly

[wary saffron]

Atleast my mommy musashi can oneshot people smh

God I get hard when she slashes the ocean

[plucky void]

enjoy it while it lasts.

[wary saffron]

Don’t remind me

Is she not meta or smth

[tidal meteor]

Getting less meta over time

[plucky void]

no, she's still in W16 fleets

[plucky tapir]

and here I am with my basic Pennsylvania carryin me 🤣

[plucky void]

she's just endured because of her ability to take hits better than everyone else, not her lightning smiting foes.

[sweet delta]

Just don't expect her or anyone to one shot shit when you actually get to harder content

[plucky void]

so can I get a last minute consult on mob fleet construction? thinking about a thunder run on W14. just need to get through 3+4.

[rain vine]

https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-14-detailed

[plucky void]

read that a while ago. Think it was 1-2 months ago?

[plucky tapir]

at what point when should I be using the second fleet? I've yet to put any ships on it atm

[inner delta]

when your first fleet is already solid enough

if you get to like any of the oil cap farm, you can start putting ship for 2nd fleet on dorm to work on it slowly while you lv the your main

[plucky tapir]

Just hit 91 with my flagship on main fleet, so I'm getting closer to that.

I'm assuming you mean map 9 at minimum.

[inner delta]

yea

[plucky tapir]

I'm not too far off from that I think.

[harsh mason]

i wish i could buy more UR fire control tables and white shells

[wary vine]

What 2nd team can I use in the early story? My first fleet is already the one from the guide.

[atomic abyss]

You don't
The guide should already have specified that you focus on your first fleet and ignore raising a second fleet till much later

Because resources and gear are limited early on

And it's not advisable to split your resources over 2 fleets

At your point of the game, a single, over levelled fleet can brute force content better than 2 somewhat levelled ones

Chapter 9 is the earliest you can consider a second fleet

If you want to improve your existing fleet

It would be to replace Long Island with Enterprise

Alternatively taihou since she's similar level to your first fleet

[plucky void]

if you're looking for placeholders, on the other hand, you should be good main fleet wise.

[atomic abyss]

And if you're asking us to recommend another fleet for future, I think it's better to wait for that future to reach before doing so
In case you get anything better

Especially with a major banner coming in less than half a day

[wary vine]

Ok, thanks for the help! I didn't know for how long having only one fleet was recommended, I'll stick to the one I already have until chapter 9 then.

[plucky void]

How efficiently do you think you can farm? There may be 1 substitution for Long Island that isn't Enterprise or Taiho based on how easy it is to get copies to LM, if you feel like spending bulins elsewhere.

[clear harbor]

So I've been wondering for a while if REGAL stood for anything. Finally put it together.

Rankings for End Game Azur Lane

🤦

[plucky void]

isn't that listed somewhere?

[north gorge]

Surely it is

[clear harbor]

I mean, it's also in the title.

[sinful wind]

does the condition include herself or nah?

[plucky void]

should.

[sweet merlin]

should i be waorried that laffy hp is this low?

[sweet delta]

Did either stream have barrage previews?

[harsh mason]

nah dont worry

shouldnt you swap laff2 and hindenburg since laff2 is more tanky?

[sinful relic]

which one should i unlock or doesnt matter?

[rain bobcat]

is that catch up?

[sinful relic]

dev missions

[rain bobcat]

just do in any order tbh because you'll convert them all to protocore anyway

[sinful relic]

got it

[sweet delta]

Imagine choosing 7 and being locked out of a big batch of early protocore because you don't have tech points for any season 7 ship and can't change the missions selection

[sinful relic]

need to unlock anchorage now.

me when i want to unlock shinano cuz fox bweh, ugh amagi will take a hot min to rerun.

can someone link the doc for the tech points thingy

i reset my pc recently and all the tabs i had saved went poof

[weary edge]

she'll rerun around november

[weary edge]

you can also find it using the wiki

[soft raft]

What makes you so confident saying that?

[weary edge]

nothing's guaranteed

but as far as predictions go, ig i shouldve clarified

[soft sierra]

How long does this take to 100%

[weary edge]

as long as you have a vanguard mvp, shouldnt take that long

[soft raft]

That is a answer primarily dependent on how often you grind per day

[soft sierra]

What stage is best for grinding xp

[weary edge]

whatever highest X-1 stage you can do

[soft sierra]

Kk

[viscid swift]

W12.

[weary edge]

i was always under the impression that W12 was the best in terms of oil efficiency but someone posted a document showing that the >W12 stages had better efficiency so now im not so sure anymore

[whole crypt]

11-1 has highest in the whole game but 12+ also drops chips

12-1 is better XP/oil than 12-4 but not by a lot, 12-4 offers significantly more coins

[weary edge]

ah, is chip drops w12 exclusive?

[whole crypt]

12 onwards

[weary edge]

ah i see

[whole crypt]

depending on your setup 12-1 may or may not be easier nowadays because auto ammo pickup became a thing for 12-4

[weary edge]

oh yeah that was so nice when they added that

[sinful relic]

chips?

[weary edge]

cog chips

these thingymajiggies

[sinful relic]

oh ! okay

[weary edge]

that's why it's recommended for all new players to get to w12 asap

[sinful relic]

i spent 30k upgrading canteen and merchant, by the time maintenance comes off they should be done

[weary edge]

frankly w my current dock i could probably make it to w14 with relative ease, ive just been really lazy with campaign progression so im still on w13 lol

[lean latch]

Do we have update version of this chart? (With w14,15 and16)

[ivory pawn]

Once you get to w12 it's pretty much progress at your own pace from then on. Could never progress if you didn't want to.

[weary edge]

oh wow that's crazy 11-1 really is the best for xp in terms of oil efficiency lol

[weary edge]

arent the map drop ships also lowk buns for all of them too?

[sinful relic]

i wonder how hard W16 is

[ivory pawn]

Collection, nothing crazy tech-wise iirc.

[viscid swift]

https://suchiguma.github.io/deepresearch/auto-search-exp-and-coins

[lean latch]

Once you 100% the stage it becomes noticeably easier

[weary edge]

and get the danger level to safe

[lean latch]

Oh thank you

It also less annoying than W15 with its multiple bosses fleets

[tranquil rock]

how do the missiles from DDGs work

i dont see chang chun actually doing anything when placed in the vanguard

shes just firing her main guns, no missiles

[ivory pawn]

They auto-fire every 20s or whatever the reload time is.

[sweet delta]

/ddg

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

DDG Mechanics

Vanguard Mode:
No Preloaded Missile
No "timestop" on missile launch, can't manually aim; missiles are launched automatically
Missiles travel similar to surface torpedos
Main Gun shell speed +10%
AoA reduction carries over (8 shots for AoA)

Main Fleet Mode:
Preloaded Missile
Gains "timestop" on missile launch; can manually aim (similar to BBs)
Missiles launch in a tall arc with low spread (similar to Georgia barrage)
HP +50%, Evasion -40, Damage Taken -20%
AoA proc every missile shot
Gains "Hidden" mechanic; Damage Dealt +15% when "Hidden"
Main Gun range set to 75 (used for intercept; greater than twin 130 and twin 128 base ranges)

Note: Vanguard Mode is stronger. Main Fleet mode is worse than most BBs and only good for preload or low-cost fleets.

[strong tartan]

they're pretty hard to see if you aren't paying close attention or if the screen has too many bullets flying around

[tranquil rock]

oh alright

[sweet delta]

16 does, in fact, have better coins/oil than 12

[tranquil rock]

what do they look like

because when white tiger's prance activates i see a wedge formation of a bunch of fast projectiles
they dont look like missiles but dont look like normal bullets either

[sweet delta]

They look like missiles

Gray

[strong tartan]

Trail of fire and smoke behind them

They zoom past your screen quickly so just hyper focus on your vanguard ships so it's easier to spot

[tranquil rock]

these???

[sweet delta]

[tranquil rock]

because i dont see anything else thats out of the ordinary

[sweet delta]

Did you equip missiles?

[tranquil rock]

yeah

SY-1A

[sweet delta]

Just turn off auto, anchor them on the far left so guns aren't firing, and wait

[tranquil rock]

oh wait i see them now

[whole crypt]

not like it matters regardless
the missiles work and you have no control over them

[tranquil rock]

tysm

[copper garden]

is it safe to say sov soyuz isn't coming back anytime soon?

[viscid swift]

CN Datamine 5/19

[sweet delta]

Why nobody told me there's gold pressure resistant hull

[hollow gust]

Wait maint is tonight? Sweet

[rain bobcat]

weird that its wednesday

[sweet delta]

Damn it looks fucjing useless

[hollow void]

There is?

[sweet delta]

120 gold plates for a 1.5% damage increase to one sub

[hollow void]

CN anni, they add a few days

[whole crypt]

it's a UvH+

[hard mesa]

Is gold pressure hull event limited?

[sweet delta]

I firmly and respectfully disagree

She's not BB RLD tech

[tranquil rock]

where

ts cannot be real

[viscid swift]

Honestley, unless any of these ships pump out busted damage I am not impressed just from a glance.

[sweet delta]

What are their eHPs

Moritz, hipper, z14, z15

[viscid swift]

@slow fox

[sweet delta]

Inputting base stat numbers manually in this day and age?

[slow fox]

oh man where did they get these from I'm waiting on EN datamine still

[viscid swift]

CN machine translation.

[sweet delta]

2501 should have crazy damage

[viscid swift]

https://discord.com/channels/456397991847395339/1506496756253331516

[sweet delta]

I haven't even read the skills yet

[soft raft]

Oh right maint is tonight

[sweet delta]

What in her career warrants 60 luck?

[viscid swift]

Z15 will use the AP gun loadout as a heads up.

[whole crypt]

fine she's a UvH- then

[viscid swift]

Huh, since when did subs get 3 auxes.

[harsh mason]

so the new ur bb isnt really that good hm? the skill looks like uvh

[idle dagger]

It's UvH sistership. No wonder

[strong tartan]

wait till testing cause last few times a ship has looked meh on paper they've been great so

[harsh mason]

wonder if i should waste cubes rolling then? i have uvh already and plenty of UR bbs (no lion :(((( )

oh ok

[viscid swift]

I'm just waiting for Suchi to run his damage calcs.

[strong tartan]

last time a ur has seriously been bad on release was mogador, I doubt they'd have something like that happen again

[viscid swift]

I mean I don't think they'll be bad.

Just don't find either particularly interesting.

[weary edge]

oh wait the event starts tmr? ig i just assumed it would be thursday as normal lol

[idle dagger]

Wednesday this time. 5/20

[strong tartan]

does the new bb store salvoes like lion and meck? seems like a new trend among them

[weary edge]

yippeee!!!

[viscid swift]

It's been a thing since Alsace.

Raff was the only exception since.

[strong tartan]

oh right she does that too

[viscid swift]

Man, Hipper still can't even match Portland.

[whole crypt]

oh nice 2501 isn't tied to wolfpack

[viscid swift]

So it's her, I-404 and ??? for best sub fleet maybe.

[slow fox]

I-13

[whole crypt]

if we're removing 1 more fish then yeh third sub may not be a fish at all

+1 hunt range and +1ammo is nice for campaign

[hard mesa]

2501 has cross fleet buff?

[sweet delta]

How did you do this without datamine

And how much do torpedo shields contribute

[viscid swift]

So we'd either have Homura or force Flasher into the flag position.

[slow fox]

CheekyCN thread

torpedo shields contribute something like 90

[hollow void]

She was considered for being a ship in AL despite being 🧻

[viscid swift]

U-2501 is real.

[hollow void]

Talking about 2501? Thought the h class

[viscid swift]

Somthing like 100 of her class were built, and many served post war.

[hard mesa]

I mean avh is 50 lck iirc

[hollow void]

Lucky enough to not patrol or lose crew

[whole crypt]

oh pog is that a gold hull design

[viscid swift]

Gotz's barrage better be busted because so far her kit just looks like UvH's with some minor differences.

[wind island]

oh

[whole crypt]

I have to agree with stig that she's just a worse UvH

[wind island]

🙁 i was so ready for my Goatz to powercreep lion

[tidal meteor]

Never

[strong tartan]

that's quite the wish

[wind island]

with the power of delusion, even midass BBs can be good!

[tidal meteor]

Gotz washed on arrival

[wind island]

...where can i find gotz's kit

[whole crypt]

I'm happy to say I didn't even need to wait for the datamine to know that the ship I give a shit about this event is useless, unlike gotz

[onyx flame]

https://discord.com/channels/456397991847395339/1506496756253331516

[slow fox]

gotz paired with UVH and fdg makes for good clearing

[wind island]

thx

[atomic abyss]

Did we travel back to 2022 or something

[idle dagger]

Will not be useful even with this?

[viscid swift]

Seems like it.

[atomic abyss]

I mean a UR is still a UR

[cobalt gate]

I mean the only issue is probably no damage with 0 ammo left. Otherwise seems good with powerful barrage

[atomic abyss]

So she would still likely be better than an SR BB

[viscid swift]

Yeah but, I'm thinking of reccing people save for Alsace at this rate.....

[strong tartan]

did they not show the barrage gif in the stream? or does jp only do that

[cobalt gate]

Sub looks good gets 3 aux slot

[viscid swift]

They did not.

[strong tartan]

Sad

[viscid swift]

Honestley wouldn't be suprised if it was copy pasta UvH/FDG barrage.

[atomic abyss]

That gun posted above is the musashi gun right

[strong tartan]

Yes the 460

[atomic abyss]

If it didn't save UvH from mediocrity
I don't think we can expect much more than that

[onyx flame]

unique gear for this event is just the gold pressure hull?

[atomic abyss]

Unless she specifically has a skill that boosts IJN guns for some reason

[strong tartan]

UvH didn't even benefit from that anyway since she's a light armor specialist

[cobalt gate]

The cvl gets double dmg after 2 strikes feels like might be good?

[whole crypt]

considering I don't use UvH now with any gun I don't see what chance Gotz has

[viscid swift]

For her 2nd airstrike.

[atomic abyss]

Well in any case, reasonable assumption than she's worse than Lion right

[viscid swift]

Worse than Zwei even.

[whole crypt]

it doesn't help for bossing regardless

[cobalt gate]

Won’t know till barrage and gun efficiency

[viscid swift]

Unless her barrage is absolutely busted.

[onyx flame]

and her i thought gotz might have a chance to take over zwei role

[whole crypt]

we know gun eff that's on datamine

[viscid swift]

We know the latter, 160%.

[cobalt gate]

Oh well have to pray on barrage then.

[viscid swift]

UvH has 155%.

[cobalt gate]

Moscow was good with just 2 skill

[atomic abyss]

Unironically yes...

[slow fox]

U2501 with THREE aux slots!?!?!?!?

[whole crypt]

it's not about the number of skills, it's about having a relevant skill set

[viscid swift]

Her statline is only a small improvement over UvH. Same stat buffs on her skills too.

[strong tartan]

Triple oxytorp u2501

[hard mesa]

Gots still have 50% reload reduction even on flag right?

[tulip tinsel]

Götz kit out yet?

[whole crypt]

they realized the DD gun slot is useless

[slow fox]

12 habits of people

[strong tartan]

Historically they never had any deck guns so that's also why

[hollow void]

What does sim reload mean?

Just the 2 loads or smth else?

[tulip tinsel]

Is she not that op?

[cobalt gate]

Oh only cvl reload tech

[wind hazel]

who is she

[tulip tinsel]

Götz

[atomic abyss]

Gotz seems to be... A 2022 UR BB from first impression

[wind hazel]

so far her kits sounds very very mid

[tulip tinsel]

Sad

[wind hazel]

maybe her barrage will shoot essex

[cobalt gate]

Well most of her dmg will be on barrage

[wind hazel]

also is that a gold pressure hull

[forest palm]

UR BB saturation is real

[cobalt gate]

Wait barrage can have different armor modifier than main gun right

[atomic abyss]

They usually do

[cobalt gate]

Yeah going to reserve judgement till barrage I guess

[whole crypt]

I'm not optimistic about the barrage

[atomic abyss]

It would take like a musashi tier barrage to save her tbh

[strong tartan]

if this barrage isn't a planetary nuke I don't see her doing much

[grizzled sundial]

So... Gotz not replace anyone in most fleet composition for certain enemy ?

[viscid swift]

Probably not.

[atomic abyss]

But yes you're right

[soft raft]

How bad is it so far

[whole crypt]

it's an okay BB to start with if you're new I guess?

[viscid swift]

I probably won't use her unless Bristol META has gimmicks which actively tailor too her.

[whole crypt]

but for mid and late players she's not offering much

[atomic abyss]

At that point you might as well consider warkai or NJ

[grizzled sundial]

Should i save for Alcs instead ?

[harsh mason]

i feel like the new UR is an increment from uvh, but its kind of not good, esp since i alr have uvh

[soft raft]

Damn UvH tier 💀

[whole crypt]

worse than UvH no BB RLD smh

[viscid swift]

That's what I'm thinking right now.

[harsh mason]

im gonna save my cubes i guess, save it for some future UR event (i already have alsace)

[cobalt gate]

I mean most are starting with musashi right?

[soft raft]

Man that sounds bleak considering how fast I ditched her back when she was new

[atomic abyss]

There's a very good chance that's the case

At the very least, don't go sinking your cubes on week 1

[forest palm]

another bad H-Class

[atomic abyss]

For gotz I mean

[harsh mason]

on the bright side, i get a UR bulin off this event

[soft raft]

What about the submarine?

[viscid swift]

I'm gonna wait for Suchi to run the numbers but I'm not that hopeful.

[onyx flame]

aight time to dump cubes into wishing well instead

[atomic abyss]

3 aux slots it seems

[cobalt gate]

At least she doesn’t require a iron blood team to work

[whole crypt]

sub looks really good

[atomic abyss]

Is this gonna be a rumey or guam event 2.0 lol

[whole crypt]

you don't start with Musashi, you just pick her when you get around to perm pity as a newer player

[strong tartan]

even rumey was leagues better than this, she was just overshadowed by z52

[whole crypt]

so if you pull for the event and get UvH- you can use UvH- way before you get Musashi

[sweet delta]

Does hipper include 4% heal from torps?

[cobalt gate]

Wait is rumey not good?

[atomic abyss]

Rumey is excellent

[wind hazel]

no rumey was busted

[strong tartan]

no she's great

[grizzled sundial]

What up with that -45% main gun damage in exchange for faster reload , why they feel the need to add that

[atomic abyss]

The issue then is z52 is even more cracked

[strong tartan]

z52 was just God

[zenith heron]

Z52, Jack of All Trades (Kuroko biased)

[grizzled sundial]

On the bright side , this is the newest UR ship that not instantly powercreep anyone...

[soft raft]

lmaoooooo

[idle dagger]

I guess just to show sistership to UvH

[cobalt gate]

Got it. Because rumy I feel like is a really good ur

[whole crypt]

because UvH failed and they decided to repeat that mistake

[zenith heron]

On Paper, looks nothing impressive

[viscid swift]

Kronshtadt would like to know your location.

[atomic abyss]

It's the same for Guam and Laffey2
Tho in Laffey2 case, she's outright better than Guam in most use cases...

[slow fox]

Is it heal per torpedo or heal per salvo?

-# Includes 0.01 heal

[soft raft]

3 Aux slot? Did they merge both torp slots into one or somethin

[strong tartan]

No she doesn't have a dd gun

[atomic abyss]

Gun slot go poof

[cobalt gate]

I mean guam is very good aa and support just not tanky like laffey

[atomic abyss]

No firepower today

[soft raft]

Oh lmao
Well tbh sub gun mostly useless so makes sense

[strong tartan]

not like losing a dd gun on a sub would do anything tho

[whole crypt]

text say when torp weapon hits, so it could be per torp

[atomic abyss]

If you want sub fire power use the tempestas at that point

[whole crypt]

but ⛏️ code might be clearer so stiggy might need to answer that

[cobalt gate]

I feel like all the tempa sucks

The only reason for tempa is ammo +1

[grizzled sundial]

New UR IB sub damage compare to Sakura UR sub ?

[atomic abyss]

There are some decent ones lol

[whole crypt]

tempestas are only better if it's light armour and/or little surface pressure

[atomic abyss]

No way to know yet

[whole crypt]

the new sub comp is likely 404/2501/+1

[grizzled sundial]

Well , not like i can't put two of them in the same fleet

[zenith heron]

Me when Royal Fortune cheesed my lvl 95 submarine Daily

[summer smelt]

Hey guys I'm a new player is it possible to obtain the date a live ships

[onyx flame]

not unless they rerun

[whole crypt]

not unless it reruns, which is not likely to happen

[cobalt gate]

Just wait for people to test. I feel like probably no ib sub fleet though till we get some more ur subs

[zenith heron]

A rerun

[summer smelt]

Have they ever reran?

[atomic abyss]

No, they are extremely limited and may not rerun

No

For collabs, assume they're gone forever unless specified otherwise

[grizzled sundial]

Date a live just happened , chance of rerun now is flat zero...

[whole crypt]

16-1/2 already proved top sub comp does more than frigates on medium, it's probably even worse for heavy

[wind hazel]

dont give up hope, from my power of prophecy i can see date a live rerunning

[zenith heron]

Also considering the Anime itself is reaching its end, it looks inevitable

[viscid swift]

Tbf their event wasn't even a year ago.

[cobalt gate]

I mean only hololive never had a rerun

[sweet delta]

huh probably per torpedo, then give her 8%

[summer smelt]

No way man this always happens to me

[onyx flame]

other collab have but i wouldnt pin my hopes on it

[atomic abyss]

...I wouldn't call November as "just"

[strong tartan]

can you prophecize a kizuna ai rerun

I want that saratoga skin

[wind hazel]

no

[strong tartan]

oh

[whole crypt]

I need a neptunia rerun when that happen

[summer smelt]

What collabs has this game had besides date a live?

[viscid swift]

Neptunia, Kizuna Ai, Uterwermoz, Idolmaster, Senran Kagura

[cobalt gate]

Feels like probably stellar blade collab after nier

[whole crypt]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/List_of_Ships#Collab_Ships

[onyx flame]

Neir automata is next so there that

[grizzled sundial]

Gotz 2nds skill that decrease her reload time only for first shot or all the shot ?

[sweet delta]

I'm looking for a Hololive rerun

[cobalt gate]

Did we not have a senran rerun?

[whole crypt]

I'm still coping for an imas rerun

[atomic abyss]

I mean I was trying to compare fire power rather than torp power but nevermind

[viscid swift]

No.

[zenith heron]

To Love Ru, then those Side Collabs like BRS and Danmachi, which was dirty

[atomic abyss]

All, if it's like UvH

[sweet delta]

what is the HRR?

[viscid swift]

All salvos.

[cobalt gate]

I’m pretty sure we will get a to love rerun

[wind hazel]

ehh

[sweet delta]

Holy Roman Reich?

[grizzled sundial]

Still that less damage debuff is gut punching , so use black shell instead of white ?

[atomic abyss]

If you want to do collab speculation coping
Please join the guy coping for a nep collab rerun in #al-general

[cobalt gate]

Probably black and white shell instead of fire radar

[whole crypt]

or just don't use gotz

[atomic abyss]

I would go as far as to say don't use her at all

[harsh mason]

just wait for alsace and get her instead

[strong tartan]

what a kit fumble

[wind hazel]

you still use table+white no?

[whole crypt]

devs once again prove they don't care about the state of metagame

or have no actual idea of how it works

[strong tartan]

they saw mogador and said let's make it happen again

[wind hazel]

🫃 actually i forgot how uvh worked

[grizzled sundial]

It either break the meta or let it be ....

[whole crypt]

Mogador is better than UvH

[viscid swift]

I guess hope CN complain enough to buff her.

[harsh mason]

is mogador even worth running

[wind hazel]

not anymore

[harsh mason]

i feel like for frontline needs laff2 and z52 get me most of the way there, dont really care to use other frontline

[whole crypt]

in fact the only problem Mogador had was they completely screwed up on evaluating her durability under her skill proc

[wind hazel]

but please buy her skin

[idle dagger]

They care about skins

[whole crypt]

which was already fixed soon after release

[harsh mason]

67 ass animation

[wind hazel]

if they cared about metagame, hakuhou wouldn't be sitting and rotting 💀

[harsh mason]

i dont really like the newer skins ngl

[hollow gust]

I can't wait till everyone regrets talking shit about ships

[slow fox]

With 0.08 HPBoost

99.06

[hollow gust]

Neva learn

[whole crypt]

to be fair the state of lategame bossing doesn't favour a UvH type kit

[idle dagger]

Poor indie studio doesn't have money to hire testers. Joke

[grizzled sundial]

Also any info for the UR 127mm in the gear lab , or that gun still not in the file yet and have to wait more ?

[wind hazel]

idc i love shitting on new ships without evidence hmph 😤

[viscid swift]

I will hold final judgment until I see her barrage and numbers but so far it ain't fucking promising.

[cobalt gate]

I mean these ships probably to help chap 16 mostly

[hollow gust]

Oh new BB like ulrich?

[soft raft]

No
Even if it was in the files, discussing it would be banned if it wasnt gonna be part of the update

[wind hazel]

the sub definitely is w16 helper