gameplay-help

[wind hazel]

oh im looking at non retro

[normal thistle]

I don't like ships with bugs

[wind hazel]

yes im sure

[sweet delta]

And WV is core data or war archives , so Maryland is indeed better

[strong tartan]

a 7.5% decrease in hit isnt a gamebreaking bug

[normal thistle]

Is there such an option there?

[boreal wagon]

i think if u dont like ships with bugs azur lane might not be ur game

[wind hazel]

yes, nobody cared until she put on the mask

[normal thistle]

I think Mary is on par with Colorado.

[plucky tapir]

Non retro is just the base form?

[wind hazel]

most of the Big7 ships with retro are basically same, but different, but still same

in the end you just pick one that you like or is convenient

[sweet delta]

Aight bet Mutsu

[normal thistle]

Yes, but I can't find the option to remove retrofit ships.

[sweet delta]

There is no option to remove retrofit ships or non retrofit ships

[plucky tapir]

it's a seperate option.

[strong tartan]

they show up either way cause hello yat sen

[plucky tapir]

that said.... the ships that are good for beginners does not mean it's going to be a top tier endgame ship on that chart.

Mainly I think we want cheap to build and use ships that will be good enough to get the job done to carry us through the main content to the point where we can farm more effectively is the main goal with the temporary fleet we run.

[plucky tapir]

Hrm, of the intial line up, really only helena and unicorn are worth retrofitting right?

currently trying to beef up my units to push further and thought about doing some retrofitting.

[rain vine]

helena retrofit isnt that important, its just for the timing adjustment on her skill
unicorn retrofit, absolutely worth it though

[vast sparrow]

Who were the new Metas?

[tulip tinsel]

elbe

[onyx flame]

There also konisberg and bristol

[eternal basalt]

Elbe: Event. Konigsberg: New Cruise. Bristol: New showdown

[lean latch]

Where is Heavy armour bosses
I missed them so much

[gray aurora]

So I completely forgot about her existence and didnt level her yet lol
Is she currently used anywhere?

[nocturne glade]

excellent in campaign

[onyx flame]

https://azur-lane-regal.suchiguma.com/ship/20042

[gray aurora]

Hmmm I see

I should maybe do campaign at one point but all I do is farm fleet tech and opsie

[inland shoal]

Well then time to do w16 for that sweet sweet DD TRP

[gray aurora]

Well uhm.... time to do 3 chapters then if it actually gives some good

Ive got all ships and all gear so this should be easy

[inland shoal]

DD TRP is really unimportant
If anything w15 with Husten 2 is better as it gives CL FP at least, but yeah still not very important lol

[gray aurora]

Aw..... I guess Ill continue just farming then

[hard blaze]

best vanguards for farming EXP for hindenburg?

[lean latch]

Just use any IB ships
There is no best vanguards when it come to farming IB EXP

[harsh mason]

just sort by faction

[soft raft]

If you really want to optimize your grinding and do fleet tech as well, then ships with FP or HIT lvl 120 tech

[wind hazel]

pick 3

[winged falcon]

hey i got san diego, can i put her on my main beginner fleet (z23, long island, helena, unicorn, pennsylvania, portland), or should i wait for some dupes?

[onyx flame]

depends on how level your early game fleet is but you can also just hold her for when you start making your 2nd fleet at w9/10

[winged falcon]

around 30ish rn

[forest palm]

Sandy isn't exactly something you should use Non-MLB...

may as well be throwing foam balls

[soft raft]

And she's pretty whatever pre-retro & pre-unique aug
Both of which are quite pricey for newbies

[winged falcon]

i see

[forest palm]

Sandy is pretty usable w/ her Augment alone

[winged falcon]

i guess i will just wait a bit

[hollow gust]

Hood's skin should be buyable with gems too right? similar to illustrious's limited skin

[hollow void]

Gems

[hot lion]

how do you get more of these?

[soft raft]

Cruise pass and the Research beginner missions

Also NEVER use those for CDC XP, those are much more valuable being turned into protocore instead

[hot lion]

how do i turn them into protocore then?

[soft raft]

Go to Depot, click on it, then press "Convert"

[hot lion]

thing is

nvm

[smoky grail]

What does Nakhimow main fleet look like if I don't have Soyuz ?

[wind hazel]

do you have moskva?

[hot lion]

stupid question and im p sure obvious too, but when getting a shipyard ship its not limit broken right? you will still need the bullins

[harsh mason]

u dont need bulins you need the prints

[hot lion]

ah got it

first shipyard ship im doing so we will see how that goes

how many are needed?

[wind hazel]

/devbp

[odd root]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/460648604974055424/885529968455598170/unknown.png

[hot lion]

doing haku rn

[wind hazel]

damn first ship is hakuryuu?

[harsh mason]

dev30/fs5 is a long grind, dont fixate on it just wait for it to happen (focus research on that series ofc, and prioritise face research w the ship you want)

[hot lion]

im a returnee now a new player

[wind hazel]

do shimanto instead, better value

[hot lion]

she IS halfway done but paused

[hot lion]

ok nvm

[nocturne glade]

probs finish off Shimanto first since theyre PR so you can coin both at the same time anyways if you want to

[hot lion]

wanted her for my shinano to replace enterprise

[wind hazel]

you can coin up to PR6 and DR5

[hot lion]

you mean spending coins instead of blueprints?

[wind hazel]

you're buying the blueprints with coin

[harsh mason]

im stubbornly committed to using enty coz i like her (i dont have many other viable carriers built)

[hot lion]

whole reason im headstrong on keeping my ayanami

[harsh mason]

chat suppose i wanted to only level my backline, who should i run as a solo frontline on 12-4? laff2 or z52 or any tank

[hot lion]

currently looking like this tho

why i wanted haku in the first place

[wind hazel]

why would you waste the exp and solo frontline

[harsh mason]

wait does it not get redistributed or smth

[wind hazel]

no, every ship gets the same exp

[harsh mason]

oh well

[wind hazel]

flagship gets 1.5x, mvp gets 2x

[harsh mason]

im just gonna pick random destroyers for fleet tech or smth ig

trying to get those battleships w +2 FP to lv120, after im done levelling up more meta ships

[gray aurora]

What is that site?

[viscid swift]

https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/tracker

[exotic sorrel]

Have you ever used Ayanami in EX stages of events where she's the highest damage dealer

[gray aurora]

Omg that looks sooo much better than the tracker I was using before and its much quicker to click them off
Ty

[harsh mason]

random ahh ships

theres a lot of new ships that are way stronger so im working on those now

[hot lion]

even in campaign she sometimes get highest dmg dealer but yea

i get she got no survivability and not as consistent but i like her nukes and grinded alot for her back in the day just as the fox twins

so i like these ships alot

[hot lion]

she not oathed, grave sin

[weary edge]

u need to work on that dockspace zawg 😭😭😭

[hot lion]

ong

im a horder of white and blue ships too and got 330, how

[harsh mason]

just a little broke

[harsh mason]

nuh uh i like enty more

[hot lion]

i like enty too but not anywhere close like the fox sisters

[exotic sorrel]

Dedicate a whole fleet for them when they get a retrofit or second form 🥹 hopefully one day

[hot lion]

they got 2nd form, KAGA BB................

its doomed

[exotic sorrel]

UR form**

[hot lion]

but imagine retrofit fox sisters with nagato retrofit potentially

[hollow gust]

Cause she's turbo garbage

[safe lava]

New player who should I get?

[lean latch]

mu sa shi

[ivory pawn]

Ask again in a month when you reach the pity.

Depending on how lucky you are during next week's event, and what exactly the new UR does, you might be better off getting someone else.

Also bet BisZwei will be added before you reach pity which would further complicate things.

[safe lava]

Thanks I can reach pity now should I just take musashi?

[inland shoal]

Wdym you can reach pity now? Don't build just to reach pity

[onyx flame]

are you dumping pulls in perma?
dont do that

[inland shoal]

There's a new UR coming very soon, save your cubes for that (safe for the 1 daily build ofc)

[viscid swift]

Might wanna give that a read.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vTRJeUvu195lF7nGi0tqn39NdvCDq7TFac83vepK9s29OXA_8pWq6z5SH8lHoOmYIC0lQxRoJ1j2HBe/pub

[neon condor]

New player here. I've been following the new player guide so I have a team built on its recommendations as I rush the story, but I got Koln META from the event rewards. I saw some people mentioning that she's not worth investing in even for built accounts, so should I just ignore her for now?

[viscid swift]

Yes.

[atomic abyss]

Yes
Given the different way meta ships are raised
It's using resources that a new player will not have and would not be grinding for at that point
So ultimately it hampers your progress

Luckily they take up 0 dock space so that's nice

[neon condor]

Thanks for the help

[tulip tinsel]

All elite meta ships are trash

[unique moss]

How do I like retire cats?

[whole crypt]

you can only feed them to other cats if you want to get rid of them

[unique moss]

Thanks

[tulip tinsel]

Feed to other cat

Holy trash wifi

[timid beacon]

Only the strong ones survive

[sharp furnace]

when does gem top-off reset?

[deep thicket]

For gear in a support fleet is the fighter the only thing that matters?

[viscid swift]

EN Anni in August for EN.

[viscid swift]

Well the fighters scale off AVI stat.

[neon condor]

Are there any ships coming up I should be saving as for a new player? Or is that something we only know when the banner itself drops?

[deep thicket]

I’m low on gold. So if I wanted to prioritize upgrading gear based off how much value they would bring to my support fleet should I just go through and only upgrade fighters on each ship? Sorry if this is a dumb question.

[sweet delta]

if you're at chapter 15 and you're low on gold, then you go to 12-4

[whole crypt]

if you're low on coin I don't think ch15 is something you should be worrying about

13-4 works too

[atomic abyss]

Typically you are recommended to only roll on banners with limited URs
There's one coming up next week

We don't know how good the ship is, but we do know that URs are typically the best ships in the game

And a new UR BB in particular is one of the best things a new player can start with

[deep thicket]

I wasted all my oil farming 11-1 to get my level 115 ships to 125 over 2 days

[sweet delta]

read Gacha Advice section of https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_lgdko8DdtBSaZMceon-cvK1DsS-DPQQ-F2IOBrUAm0/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.l54vfslo79ik and wait for 3 days

[whole crypt]

11-1 is 🚮

[viscid swift]

That should still have netted a decent amount of coins.

[whole crypt]

why did you even try to rush that

[deep thicket]

I was bored Lol

[lean latch]

You can just wait for now and do it later

[neon condor]

Thanks again

[sweet delta]

maybe they need 3 star gems for mogador skin

[deep thicket]

I wasted all my coins on retrofits

[whole crypt]

then just wait out oil regen and run some 13-4

if you spent all your oil running 11-1 you definitely don't have the oil to push 15 now anyway

[sweet delta]

my mob fleet (z52, a 115, and a 118) got wiped like twice in 100 runs, i think it's because one of the healers took an L first but i didn't see

[whole crypt]

16-4?

I went back to 13-4 because Nayoro and Kizu wouldn't survive the boss fight

[sweet delta]

i have a boss fleet for the boss

it includes Shiranui

[whole crypt]

well I'm just leveling them to 125 because reasons

also 16-4 doesn't burn oil fast enough 🫠

[sweet delta]

is your liver getting old?

[whole crypt]

13-4 is faster because 16-4 takes significantly longer per fight

[heavy zealot]

Did a quick pull because i felt my luck , do i build her? I already have Lexington2 to go along with her

[gleaming storm]

But is the new UR BB worth if you have Lion, NJ, and Mushasi?

[atomic abyss]

Eventually it may be worth
But not at the moment
Save UR bulins first

[atomic abyss]

We don't know how good the new UR BB will be, or what use she will have

Regardless there's not really things to roll for outside URs

That said there's probably a ~99% chance she's better than NJ

As for lion and musashi, see first para

[heavy zealot]

Wai, what's the best stage to farm exp again? Is it 12-4? Or have i been throwing my oil

[plucky tapir]

all I know is that they will 100% be better than my current BB; Pennsylvania. 🤣

[gleaming storm]

Next week is the event? What day?

[exotic sorrel]

Wasn't it 20th?

[gleaming storm]

Also do war archives mission contribute to PR research?

[atomic abyss]

May 20th

[gleaming storm]

Cool

[atomic abyss]

12-1, but 12-4 is only very slightly worse
You do get more coins in 12-4 instead

[exotic sorrel]

Would it be okay to skip the new UR BB if we find out she's worse than many UR BBs I currently own

[atomic abyss]

Yes

Content that costs oil in battle will contribute

[heavy zealot]

Ah, ill go 12-1 then coins dont feel like an issue rn, i think

[gleaming storm]

Is NJ still useful? Like i dont want to retire her but I have to many BB that are low key stronger

[atomic abyss]

I mean, it is entirely your choice at the end of the day

[sweet delta]

buy more dock space

[atomic abyss]

I would recommend you not to skip it anyways

[plucky tapir]

Threre's always the ol "collect dem all" aspect too.

[heavy zealot]

Good or bad , im pulling for her :3

[heavy zealot]

This what im going for XD

[atomic abyss]

No
That said she's still better than every non-UR BB/C

[rain timber]

Guys, where is that one guide on PR/DR ships? I'm close to finishing Bayard and need to pick my next new ship to develop

[plucky tapir]

by the way, do banners have a rerun? And roughly how often do we see them if so?

[sweet delta]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EA07FAuCTOjIzJ-qidGzOr4l5tGVduuHMsS-rDNEhtg/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.xdq6vc2axw87

[rain timber]

AFAIK, ~2yrs is how long it takes for an event to re-run

[viscid swift]

Alright, I don't wanna hear any complaining about not having enough oil to farm the event.

[sweet delta]

what if i can't clear SP

[plucky tapir]

I'm assuming as soon as event drops I want to drop every bit of oil I have into that?

[viscid swift]

Still more than 40k points, a little light grinding never hurt anyone.

[sweet delta]

sometimes you need a bit of 12-4 or 13-4 to get coins

[viscid swift]

Well try to clear all the maps on normal node at least.

[plucky tapir]

Oh I plan to try to push as far as I can before then.

[sweet delta]

am i missing something or this is not in the doc

[plucky tapir]

Currently looking at 6-1 on my progression

[viscid swift]

This is its own doc I have not made public yet.

Gonna wait until the ships release so I can write overviews before releasing it.

[hollow void]

I have no oil to farm event

[viscid swift]

How are you still alive.

[quiet jetty]

I played azur lane majority when shinano and musashi released, and have amassed these shipgirls, but now that im returning to the game im very lost on whose good, what to build, people to seek out and hold cubes for, and with the new free UR after 400 pulls im wondering the best to pull for that one, if anyone can provide insight on how to build out these characters, or who i need to focus on in any aspect of the game i would be incredibly grateful

[gleaming storm]

Which URs should I invest in? I have 4 UR bullins and an extra NJ copy.

[viscid swift]

To answer your questions in order.

1. Refer to this tier list with gear reccs. https://azur-lane-regal.suchiguma.com/
2. Refer to this event Guide. https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vRoWrXQTUjS4fiSn4LlHgGrSaMnwLmRRAu3SoZCx_pAfRhJPRj5_e6sJzJa8k0ihikxHO_XLpvLIMva/pub
3. I'd also reccomend reading this new player guide as a refresher. https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vTRJeUvu195lF7nGi0tqn39NdvCDq7TFac83vepK9s29OXA_8pWq6z5SH8lHoOmYIC0lQxRoJ1j2HBe/pub

[viscid swift]

I would reccomend waiting until Wendsday at least when we'll have some idea of how good Gotz will be.

And anyway, not like you need to use those bulins right at this moment.

[rapid shard]

Working on nagato meta and Soyuz dmg is pretty low even with having same gear as meck, +13 meck gun, rainbow table white shell and 45fp aux gun. Any suggestions?

[sweet delta]

is that unusual?

[plucky tapir]

what kind of ship is the new one? Was it submarine?

[rapid shard]

Other metas soyuz has been a bit closer. 350k when shes hitting 450k

[sweet delta]

did you use the same fleet for the other metas?

[viscid swift]

Check the first pin in this channel.

[rapid shard]

Yeah ran same fleet for hiryuu and soryuu meta fights

[sweet delta]

i think those numbers are reasonable, especially when your gear is that

those are medium

[plucky tapir]

ah. Thank you.

[sweet delta]

soyuz already leans medium more than other BBs, and meck has a 15% bonus against heavy

[plucky tapir]

BB huh? That's actually pretty good for me.

that means if I do get her I can replace the Pennsylvania with her.

[rapid shard]

Ah didnt know she had a 15% bonus. Im falling short on the one shot as well. am i missing a gimmick or just lacking tech?

[sweet delta]

it looks like you're lacking lion/traf

[viscid swift]

Nagato is mostly just a damage check.

[rapid shard]

That the perk of starting shortly after that event ended lol i just threw NJ in there cause not sure who to use as 3rd right now while i wait for new UR and alsace rerun

[viscid swift]

This was one of my last runs for comparrison.

[sweet delta]

then use z52 over moskva, though that won't fix 200k

[quiet jetty]

was reading through these tysm, im currently on 7-1 story wise and im wondering if i should really push for story content before min maxing my builds

[viscid swift]

Push ASAP.

[hollow quartz]

What is the best way to get Nelson now that they changed the new player missions?

[viscid swift]

Mob: Musashi, Perseus, Unicorn, Roon, Kitakaze, Yukikaze,
Boss: Warspite. Enterprise, AvP, Atago, Helena, Cheshire

You'll pretty much curb stomp the next few chapters. Push to W12 ASAP.

[viscid swift]

Honestley I wouldn't bother. If you're ready to level up another BB get Maryland from the Guild Shop and use her instead.

Otherwise, Nelson drops from several maps and event pools based on the heavy pool.

[quiet jetty]

is there a certain formation i should run for these teams?

[viscid swift]

Double Line.

https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/progression-guide/

For gameplay details and such refer to that.

[plucky tapir]

By the way, should I try to save up and get close to cap on oil for the start of the event?

[soft raft]

The event's gonna be 3 weeks so up to you

[plucky tapir]

Ah. Did not realize it was that long.

Ill just keep pushing story stages until it drops farming up progression and exp until then.

[wanton stone]

are bofors still worth crafting or should I keep making more mk37?

bofors mle 1951

[forest palm]

afaik the mk 37 is better than the mle 1951

crafting wise that is

[wanton stone]

it has a slightly higher dps but its so minor, i didnt imagine its worth giving up the 15 acc

[sinful wind]

Is the listed event, limited?

[sweet delta]

the event will never return. Buy from shop if you must. Better yet, don't retrofit warspite.

[viscid swift]

Looks like they're already at the modernization node.

[sweet delta]

assuming those 5 nodes are not partially done, it's 18 more gold bb blueprints, 2 gold bulins, 2000 spec core, and 40k coins

[viscid swift]

Or close to it anyway.

[sweet delta]

With a new UR BB dropping in 3 days, now is not the time to be doing that retrofit anyways. Decide later.

[forest palm]

warspite of all things...

[sinful wind]

My account has been inactive for the past several years so I don't really have the mats to level URs yet so I'm just leveling the units I've already invested into back then

My only UR rn is shinano and I don't have enough bulins to mlb
And I doubt I'll get enough pulls in to mlb a UR via dupes

[ivory pawn]

Don't want to MLB a UR via dupes anyways.

Can get enough before the event ends. 1 from event, 1 from cruise if you haven't yet, 2 from monthly protocore.

[viscid swift]

Where are you in the main campaign?

[sinful wind]

8-4
I have 9-1 unlocked but I'm only at cmdr lv 62, can't do it until 65

[viscid swift]

If you're willing to spend 5 bucks, you could buy the level 70 commander pack.

Either way, best to stop with Warspite's retrofit, that's a very expensive cost you cannot afford right now.

[sweet delta]

What is a list of all gear and quantities of those gear in the level 70 pack. Preferably with gear pictures

Some may be worth putting on regal if not already

[viscid swift]

Mostly blue stuff.

[plucky tapir]

I got the commander level pack a bit ago, it was only $5 and I think it's really going to be the only thing I spend on in this game. Mainly got it to get more oil/coin production faster to start compounding that faster.

though, my coin supply is now crying out in pain with all the upgrades to the canteen and merchant.

[sweet delta]

I found it

[sinful wind]

Rn oil is barely even an issue for me since I have these in stock apparently
Coins are way more of an issue for me

[viscid swift]

Yeah you wanna save that for rainy days.

[sweet delta]

Yeah that's because you're not at chapter 9, much less 12 yet

[boreal wagon]

kind suchi its also on aldb

[sweet delta]

I am not a Kinder

[sinful wind]

Is oil consumption tied to the ship power and the stage itself?

[viscid swift]

It's tied to level and limit breaks. Stage only plays a part if there's oil caps.

As a quick refresher.

[sweet delta]

I found it

[livid wyvern]

new to meowfficcers, how do you reset talent points i dont see the button for it

[rapid grail]

do dupes of collab characters count towards fleet power? the kind of fp that shows up on your account profile & the fleet power leaderboards

[sweet delta]

don't reset talent points unless the cat actually started perfect or near perfect. If you don't know, then ask

[sweet delta]

no copy of collab character counts

[rapid grail]

kk thx

[livid wyvern]

does this only show up on lv 30?

[viscid swift]

Nope.

[livid wyvern]

i dont seem to see the button

[viscid swift]

You have to use talent points in order to reset them though.

[viscid swift]

Is the Meowfficer a Tempesta one.

[livid wyvern]

yes

[viscid swift]

Those have fixed talents.

So you can't reroll them.

[livid wyvern]

ah i see, so the final setup after using 5 talent points will be the same for everyone?

[viscid swift]

Yep.

[livid wyvern]

thanks!

[limber oriole]

is the new upcoming event worth? Im miledly interested in that UR sub, though idk if i want to dedicate the time to it

[versed forum]

World 16 HELP

[tribal spruce]

So uhh I hears if nier collab I'm trying to return but when I log in it goes to tutorial does that mean my old acc(screen shot of my profile before) was deleted since its been inactive for years?

[sweet delta]

howare you logging in?

[tribal spruce]

Fb

[sweet delta]

facebook in the recovery button?

[tribal spruce]

I ca log in fine

Its theres no data km predty sure i was avora

It's it should show my name Eloise on the no data right

[sweet delta]

then try avrora, i don't think they delete played accounts

[tribal spruce]

Yea it goes straight to turotial

[sweet delta]

where is the fb login

[tribal spruce]

I log in right and click thr fb button?

[sweet delta]

everything is Yostar Account now, if you didn't bind that then you need to recover account

i don't see a fb button

[tribal spruce]

I click lower left fb and it logs me in

[limber oriole]

he should be able to contact support and get his account sorted out then, right? His UID is in the SS

[sweet delta]

click account recovery

[tribal spruce]

But there is no account

[limber oriole]

you have a UID, you probably need to contact support

[tribal spruce]

Hmm how long does the process take i onyk returned for the nier collab i heard

[sweet delta]

the facebook in account recovery is different frmo the facebook on that screen

[tribal spruce]

Would j miss out on the collab

[sweet delta]

nier collab is in july

[limber oriole]

the collab will last like 2 weeks

[tribal spruce]

I see let me figure this out

[limber oriole]

you might as well do it sooner than later, regardless of the collabs

[safe lava]

How many pull should I save for collab

[sweet delta]

there's no pity, so

and if it's a small 2-ship collab then it'll probably be completely free

as an example https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Illusory_Drifters

[viscid swift]

Nier doesn't have an extensive female cast and they outright said 2 of the characters so I assume it's just those 2.

[sweet delta]

there's no extensive 1B, 2A, 1A, A1, B1, B2?

[neon condor]

6O my beloved

[viscid swift]

2B and A2 I believe.

[ivory pawn]

There are just enough characters they could technically do the full 5 ship collab. But there's only 2 (female) major characters, so.

[tribal spruce]

Got it to work thanks sis

[ivory pawn]

@idle dagger Edited it just for you.

[idle dagger]

I watched last anime maybe 7 years ago. I heard about Nier automata and know only 2B because people often cosplay her

[tribal spruce]

So claimed my mail and my oil is x2 my .max capacity now I can't claim the other mail how to tix

[sweet delta]

did you solve it by contacting support or using account recovery?

[tribal spruce]

Acc support rocovery

Then when I log in it located my acc

After bind

[fleet marten]

How many strongholds can OPSI keep? Considering I am "out of commission" for a week by now

[ivory pawn]

All of them.

[fleet marten]

I noticed there are like 3 of them, so it can be infinite?

[ivory pawn]

It just only shows the oldest 3, once you clear one a new one will take its place.

[fleet marten]

This is nice, thanks

[normal thistle]

She is worth it for newbie?

On my server CV was last month, and BB was in January, so this month there are only CL, CL.

[idle dagger]

She has good AA for late game campaign. Normal damage. Expensive retro for newbie, just my opinion. Her best use in chapters 13+. Don't take my words as recommendation, it's just opinion

[weary edge]

sandy

[knotty jolt]

Worth it, ignore retro, early game that's to expensive since you'll be spending for her augment to boost her performance. Since you're new you should be getting carrier prints not cruiser prints anyways

[weary edge]

and then buy a second sandy to limit break

that is, assuming you already bought your monthly spec cores and pr blueprints

[normal thistle]

What about others SR, I suppose they are mid and not worth it?

[soft raft]

She wont be used for a while since she needs a decent amount of investment, but yes get her while you can

[soft raft]

Hood and Pittsburgh are good
Tho if you have BB in your shop, get Alabama instead of Hood

[forest palm]

they got double CL

[normal thistle]

Nope, as I wrote earlier, BB in medal shop will be either next month or the month after.

[strong tartan]

isn't it completely random

[normal thistle]

In general, yes, but there has been no BB for 4 months, and according to statistics, ships that have not been seen for a long time appear after 5-6 months at most, according to wiki.

[soft raft]

That's just a assumption you ended up at off of the data that has been recorded

[viscid swift]

Haha RNG is still RNG.

I remember one stretch on Amagi where we didn't see BBs in our medal shop for something like an entire year.

Became quite the meme for a while.

[idle dagger]

Me who bought this month 2 bulins for lmb Mikasa instead of check medal shop where wow double BB this month

[harsh mason]

unicorn is good

[lean valley]

Do they normally announce wishing wells on the stream / tweets? I figured we'd get one for CN anni, but afaik no news on that yet?

[viscid swift]

They already announced it.

On CN anyway.

[lean valley]

Oh, must have missed it in the stream summaries

Good to know thanks 🙂

[untold forge]

is there free gems on may 28th? if so how many?

[whole crypt]

not for EN

[soft raft]

Only CN gets that

We'll get gems when it's our anniv

[untold forge]

Ah i see

[hot lion]

is there any chance to make autosearch destroy all mob fleets before rushing to the boss?

or is the default to heatseek the boss as soon as its out and cant be changed?

[idle dagger]

If you mean full clear then no. Auto search kills mob until boss appears.

[hot lion]

yea thats what i mean

sad, gonna have to go manually over everything then

alright ty

[idle dagger]

They can overkill one or two if boss fleet can't reach boss. But they don't auto clear full

[hot lion]

yea they just straight up heatseek to it

[rain bobcat]

[slow fox]

Cheeky I have the darndest news

With max intercept on W15, Portland survives 2 seconds more on DD nodes! 32.5s compared to 30.5s
-# on average
-# over 100 trials

Do you think it's worth continuing to run trials for max intercept on BB and Boss node?

I kinda dont want to do it

[viscid swift]

Probably not based on those numbers.

Doesn't seem to make a huge difference.

[slow fox]

Rephrasing it slightly, we're observing a 10% boost in eHP from minimum intercept to maximum intercept

Would you say that 10% is significant?

[viscid swift]

What's minimum intercept again?

[slow fox]

I used no AA, no CV support fleet, and no CV in main fleet

max AA was best support fleet, and 3rd best anti-air main fleet
-# for max intercept

[viscid swift]

Hmmm.

I think a 10% difference in that context would indicate overall its not that significant since we've taken that at the absolute extreme.

[slow fox]

You think the average player runs a fleet between nothing and FritzEssexHwahjah AlbionLustyIndomie?

If I wanted to do an average estimation, I would need to take all measurements anyways.

[viscid swift]

Of course.

I think a more reasonable minimum would be say Illustrios, Langley Retro, and maybe Illustrious Muse.

Or something like that.

[slow fox]

Assuming the relationship between intercept (from 0% to 100%, with 100% being max intercept) is a linear relationship,

I would then be able to find the eHP of a setup with Illustrious, Langley Retro, and LustyMu.
Because I have all intercept numbers.

[viscid swift]

Hmmm.

Is it linear though is the question.

[slow fox]

YES

citation needed

[viscid swift]

Also on a similar note, if you were to speculate, how much eHP roughly does being middle or off tank vs main tank inately add to a ship's eHP.

[wary vine]

Should I make a new account or use my old one I played for a week years ago? What does a new account get nowadays?

[viscid swift]

Well with the old account you'd get the returnee missions which is a bunch of extra loot.

[viscid swift]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vTRJeUvu195lF7nGi0tqn39NdvCDq7TFac83vepK9s29OXA_8pWq6z5SH8lHoOmYIC0lQxRoJ1j2HBe/pub

Also you might wanna give that a read.

[slow fox]

I did a bunch of these for some arbiters. And I reported back to you on this.

The numbers I have are something like 0.51/0.22/0.27

If Portland has 100 eHP solo, then deploying three portlands in a fleet would give you these eHPs:

196/454/370

[viscid swift]

Hmmmm.

So very roughly double.

[slow fox]

Yeeah

[sweet delta]

the existence of 2 other ships does not double the main tank's eHP

[slow fox]

hi sushi

[sweet delta]

1 ship 1.00 is not equal to 3 ships 0.51/0.22/0.27

[slow fox]

-# assuming that the arbiter deals only single-target damage*

There was probably a lot of splash that "equalized" the relative eHPs more than in an ideal situation.

[wary vine]

Thanks for the advice, I lost my old account around Unzen's release so I wasn't sure if they revamped the new player experience.

[sweet delta]

did you compare single ship's survival duration to that same ship's survival duration as main tank with 2 other ships

[slow fox]

Yeah I switched them around and meaasured Astoria's time of death.

Guam/Astoria/Agir sandwich

[sweet delta]

but what was solo Astoria's survival duration

[slow fox]

Not measured.

[sweet delta]

so you cannot claim If Portland has 100 eHP solo, then deploying three portlands in a fleet would give you these eHPs:

196/454/370

it could be 108/250/203

[slow fox]

That claim is permissible with the assumption that only single-target damage occurs.

The 0.51 in 0.51/0.22/0.27 can be treated as ( 1 - 0.51 ) damage resistance when modeling eHP.

It's the same as saying half the damage that would have went to the maintank now goes to her two sortie partners.

[sweet delta]

very well, single target damage to single ship

[slow fox]

I should also probably mention that these are relative values and that 196 + 454 + 370 is greater than 300, which would be the actual eHP of the sortie.

[sweet delta]

3 ships has bigger hitbox than 1 ship

[slow fox]

This issue will be resolved in eHP7

[sweet delta]

ok

[slow fox]

wait it will never be resolved because I don't publish fleet eHP

only for toy problems

[inner delta]

Tfw how many versions do you have why is it the 7th

[slow fox]

Right now is eHP3 and I'm working on eHP4. Each time I make some higher-order corrections that require an overhaul of the base theory, I increase the version number by 1.

eHP7 is my way of saying "I think this correction (3 ships hitbox and damage density on area) is not a big concern"

[inner delta]

Hm interesting

[idle dagger]

When did they add auto pick up ammo?

[soft raft]

Quite a long time ago

[idle dagger]

I just got thought today I can clear 12-4 with one fleet so up ships faster 🤦🏼

[soft raft]

2 fleeting it would still be better
2nd fleet would have full ammo, and one extra fight's worth of XP per sortie makes no noticeable difference in how fast a ship lvls up

[idle dagger]

I mean I can do X6 with one fleet, rest them and do X6 again with same fleet. In exp per time it will be same as use 2 fleets for 12 ships. But in short term I will up 6 ships faster

[soft raft]

Doing x6 instead of x5 also means you're also using up more of that fleet's morale per sortie

[wind hazel]

just pick the method you're comfortable with, it's the same shit

the best method would be doing 3 sortie at 150morale, rest 40mins, repeat at 150morale

[hollow void]

If you are grinding consistently you will run out of chips before oil regardless of method

[idle dagger]

I do just 120. 125 only for strong ships

[hollow void]

Yeah chips not arrays

[idle dagger]

Blue chips anyway thousands

[wind hazel]

-# does he know

[idle dagger]

I have over 20k chips I guess

[wind hazel]

that's just less than 10 SR ship 😭

[viscid swift]

I have a deficit of something like 340k chips.

[hollow void]

I am washed so got 70k or so

[wind hazel]

im at 427k

[viscid swift]

With over 100 ships already banked with enough XP to get to 120.

[wind hazel]

join me at 14-1

[hollow void]

Just retire like me and you’ll get back chips, trust

[idle dagger]

Well, I guess I up ships too slowly then

[viscid swift]

Not until I finish ASW tech.

[hollow void]

I am leveling subs now

[idle dagger]

Ah I have 95k chips

[hollow void]

And ur dupes

[sweet delta]

Do you plan to buy any upcoming skins?

[viscid swift]

Mogador's probably why....

[sweet delta]

Will you be keeping 4 copies of mog

[viscid swift]

If I can be bothered to get the 2nd dupe on the rerun yeah.

[idle dagger]

Is this with books or not?

[hollow void]

Just start fp farming will get enough dupes

[wind hazel]

no, normal x3 sortie

[viscid swift]

Too cheap for FP farming.

[hollow void]

Use someone else’s wallet like me

[whole crypt]

it took me like 4? 6? months to burn up 100k chips

[cobalt gate]

i want more chips

[idle dagger]

So I have 4-6 months at least to burn my 100k too. Anyway why keep them if I can up ships for tech points

[whole crypt]

depends on your grind pace, I was active but I wouldn't say I was grinding very hard

[idle dagger]

I usually did x6 with one fleet then X6 with second fleet every day once per day at 12-4

And used exp books only for up some ships from 120 to 125

[whole crypt]

that was pre-XP packs I think?

[idle dagger]

Also I don't feed girls in dorm and don't take oil from storage

[cobalt gate]

does doing the support sub battle give affinity?

[whole crypt]

calling in subs is the only way to raise their affinity besides secretary

[idle dagger]

What do you mean?

[whole crypt]

the leveling I did back then should have been before XP packs existed

[idle dagger]

I started play when Shima appeared, and books appeared too soon

Or I didn't get what you mean. Then sorry

[inner delta]

He plays long before exp book exist which you have to basically dorm them until they are usable for world 12

[idle dagger]

I see. I don't up with books or dorm until usable in 12-4. Just as ships desync in exp some 100+ lvl carry 40+ lvl for me. When they reach 120 I set another and 40+ already 100+ and carry little ones again

I use books only for 120-125

[whole crypt]

regardless if you keep grinding consistently you'll spend chips faster than you get them and bottleneck at some point

[idle dagger]

Oil finishes too fast. when I tried to farm twice per day and was out of oil in 3 days. So doing once per day 12 runs x6+x6.

[agile pewter]

I'm thinking of starting work on kear soon, is it ok to focus series 6 to finish faster or just buy bp

[onyx flame]

dr 6 cant be coined and pr9 coming soon

[agile pewter]

Buy bp as in from event shop etc

[hollow void]

Yeah, dr6 should be coinable soon™ so I'd just only go to it if done with the noncoinable research

[whole crypt]

if on the same schedule as the past 2 years DR6 won't be coinable for another 8 months

[hollow void]

Yeah, so soon™

By pr9 release and completion as well as catch up would be out

[whole crypt]

if you don't take out of storage at all I guess, not like you really need to keep a huge bank

[idle dagger]

I would make choice depending on how much guns you have. As pr8 you can get only through researches

[whole crypt]

PR6 and 7 catchup already exists unless you're talking about PR8

[idle dagger]

I mean pr6 and pr7 rainbow guns can buy bps

[hollow void]

Meant catch up as in completion rather than the mechanic

[whole crypt]

mm

[whole crypt]

not replying to you for that one

[agile pewter]

I have enough of the gold equips and halfway to meck gun, I guess I should finish it first?

[onyx flame]

are you not done with pr8?

[idle dagger]

I don't make recommendation. I'm just saying pr7 and pr6 gun obtainable without research. Pr8 gun only through research for now

[agile pewter]

I didn't really bother getting the ships cos I heard they weren't good

[whole crypt]

but you don't really do PR7 for guns and the plane is also not obtainable without research

[onyx flame]

i mean the golds are gold so ig but you are done with both of the rainbows at least right

[idle dagger]

But you can buy at least one in protoshop

[whole crypt]

if just by numbers used in a comp you need more La-9s than you need quad AP

[idle dagger]

Yes

[agile pewter]

Ehh i skipped them too

Kear will have to wait maybe

Or is she better somehow

[onyx flame]

kear is mega niche

meck is one of the best anti heavy bossing bb and a very solid bb in general
while gouden is very good for late game campaign (basically a 2nd guam iirc)

[whole crypt]

well you can't finish up a DR on a whim anyway so you might as well look ahead than keep catching up with old options

[agile pewter]

Okay thank you guys

[whole crypt]

unless you just really want to put together a specific comp

[onyx flame]

i bumrush my kear but thats after i finished pr8 and half a lot of rainbow blank sitting around + 5 hvar ready

[idle dagger]

Just example. In my comfortable tempo it takes half year to get current wave + 50 bps for gun. Depend on importance of gun I choose keep staying wave or research some old

[whole crypt]

it's not like you need to actively manage research anyway it's just setting up queues

finishing the series + 2 copies of rainbow gear is doable in half a year

[onyx flame]

i rmb when there was no research queue

[idle dagger]

I'm not so lucky just will get 2nd meck gun before wave 9

[whole crypt]

well it's just averages, even if you don't finish 2 you should be close if you have the right research projects

[idle dagger]

Yes I have about 45 bps for 2nd meck gun now

I usually take Q or D if no them I take blue G

[sweet delta]

i think nntktt got 3rd meck gun like a whole month before i did

[idle dagger]

Right I found my mistake

I didn't exchange bps for ships. So had longer time with D researches while could have more Q and get gun faster

[cobalt robin]

im still on my 3rd and no print the past 3 weeks

[hollow void]

Like 1/5th of way to 5th one on main, half way to 4th on alt, though I did do rigging even prior to completing the ships

[idle dagger]

Now idea how. Sometimes game doesn't give bps for gun for weeks and I didn't see rainbow research for month already

[whole crypt]

even on gear focus you'll end up doing some grants, faces and the occasional 1hr cube for refresh so you're fairly safe just going for gear and still be able to finish ships, unless you really want to finish ships asap

[cobalt robin]

i havent seen a rainbow research this year yet

[hollow void]

P sure I skipped almost all rainbow research, just did 1 or 2 on main, alt took all though

[idle dagger]

Funny thing. Day before yesterday people said Monarch>Izumo. But in guide this channel recommends

[sweet delta]

well her augment released a month before that, but sam somehow didn't update it

[hollow void]

🐌

[onyx flame]

that why we got the new shipyard guide from cheeky
https://docs.google.com/document/d/194GQ9AJbmXjxUZAbMlnUCUQt6v_Tjnebedpbz7wn78c/edit?usp=sharing

[idle dagger]

Just found this, wanted check if I do researches right. Because somehow I get guns bps too slowly

[sweet delta]

im not lucky but working on the sixth meck gun

[idle dagger]

I'm about finish 2nd

[sweet delta]

correct pickign and queuing should yield a little more than 1 per 2 months on average

[idle dagger]

I take blue Q or D, if no them blue G, then purple Q or D if no them then refresh

[onyx flame]

i mean

[whole crypt]

I stopped working on PR8 after 4th gun

[idle dagger]

Thanks this is what I wanted check in guide

[idle dagger]

It says problem with open file. I'm using phone

[fiery swan]

Is there anyone worth raising in PR8 (gold)

[rapid yoke]

How to build?

[onyx flame]

https://azur-lane-regal.suchiguma.com/ship/10081

[plucky tapir]

Should I use elite bullin to limit break Pennsylvania? She's level capped now.

[onyx flame]

yes

[exotic sorrel]

Not a single ship in pr3 are they really that bad 😔

[hollow void]

No augments yet

[exotic sorrel]

Hopefully Cheshire or Mainz gets one first

[strong tartan]

they're the oldest season that hasn't received any buffs of any sort since drakes fate sim (which barely changed her position in the meta)

[idle dagger]

Doubt Cheshire will be good again

[plucky tapir]

Guild shop refreshed just now. Should I pick up Maryland as my second ship from that? Or should I just get more copies for limit breaks? (Got a Nelson drop. So Maryland is not nearly as enticing.)

[exotic sorrel]

New player? What does your fleet look like right now?

[ashen pecan]

Does Zuihou's heal also proc on the special airstrike?

[scarlet cosmos]

is new event coming on 5/20?

[strong tartan]

no

[ashen pecan]

thanks!

[idle dagger]

Swap Portland and Helena

[plucky tapir]

Done.

But yeah, I'm not really seeing a need to replace my pennsylvania at this point at all.

that's a lot of levels I'd have to get back

[ashen pecan]

I dont see any need to replace any of them atm

[plucky tapir]

Thought as such. So I'll most likely just pick up a unicorn or something for limit break

[grizzled creek]

Sorry if it’s a bad question… but are we suppose to be getting a new UR soon? Not sure if it’s gonna be server dependent or not

Seen something about it somewhere but a lil lost is all

[inner delta]

Yea next week

[sinful relic]

with the new clear feature, would i be able to have 4 teams to work on opsi while its clearing? or am i mistaken?

[grizzled creek]

Thank u guys

[sinful relic]

another question, what exactly should i focus on now? im at 12-1. currently working on my boss fleet to be stronger. however i do want to start making a team for opsi. is this worth it?

[harsh mason]

i think doing opsi is worth it

you could copy your campaign mob and boss fleet into opsi and itll suffice for now, till youve got more ships built

[sinful relic]

thats what i was thinking, with the new sweep feature im hoping i can do other things like doing opsi while its sweeping main campaign for coins and such

[harsh mason]

get to 12-4 first :D

no clue how the sweep mechanic is going to work

[sinful relic]

so 12-4 is just better coin gen? and exp?

[muted wind]

12-1 is technically better exp, but the difference isn't big and the extra coins will help

[sinful relic]

currently i need exp more, since im working on my first research ship saint louis

[atomic abyss]

Then 12-1 would be better

Still get a decent amount of coins

[sinful relic]

noted, i already made 12-1 safe to farm, im currently pushing all my ships to 120

[woven star]

Is it w12-1 realy better for exp? I mean yeah. Maybe coefficient of exp per oil higher but in total you get less exp per run. If you can swap more fleets (more then 1) for exp gain it's fine but other way less exp per run means more runs and more affinity loss so anyway less runs for 1 fleet. W12-1 better if you leveling 2-3 or more fleets and ships there which independent from affinity regain. Or maybe i don't understand something

I would say
Less oil, more time - w12-1
More oil, less time - w12-4
i tried w12-1 farm many times and it's really way more long to get 120 lvl ships and less coins

[clear harbor]

Does the Protocore shop reset every month? Mine is sold out of Tenrai blueprints but I’m almost certain I bought mine before this month. Maybe I’m misremembering?

[undone plover]

UR doesnt restock
Only SR prints do

[clear harbor]

Ohhhhhh nuts.

[undone plover]

Less xp per time is a valid point
But some ppl have a lot of free time so for them more xp/oil becomes the better metric if they want to maximize xp

For me personally now with ammo pickup I kinda prefer 12-4 since the mob fleet should be able to do the boss as well which means probably more xp/oil if they cant do the same on 12-1 out of ammo

[atomic abyss]

I mean
It really depends on your metric

Another consideration is that 12-1 is more forgiving to lower level ships

[woven star]

I mean for someone who new and want to get top end AL content and have 1/2 low lvl fleets giving farm advice for w12-1 is not best idea. Anyway it's depends on question content

[atomic abyss]

12-4 boss does hit a fair bit harder than 12-1 boss too

[woven star]

About level yes. Much easy

[atomic abyss]

Not really

From the perspective of a new player they are noticeably different
With lower level ships and especially poorer gear

Choukai and Maya slam quite a fair bit of barrage shells and torps

[woven star]

Sry need to go. Will discuss these later if got question or points

[woven star]

I meant about Konou. Pushing his first fleet to 120 lvl on w12-1 will be too long. I would say push as far as @sinful relic can or save some oil for event and stay at w12-1. Depends how many oil left. If less 6k oil after week rewards then it's low

110-115 I think safe level to push to the w12-4

[deep thicket]

I remember watching a video about 11-1 having the best exp to oil return ratio. Is that not true anymore?

[sinful relic]

im currently playing other games while azur lane is doing its thing so the first one is nhonestly best for me, since when i come back after remembering the game is still open i redo the run which normally means my girls have more morale.

[woven star]

True but expecting more game play time

[atomic abyss]

It is true yes
There are a few problems with 11-1 however

One thing to consider is that 11-1 is actually more difficult than 12-1. There are high HP suicide boats and BBs trying to snipe your backline.

Meaning you actually still need a certain level of team building for it and can't just throw a random fleet of ships together like for 12-1 or 12-4

The vanguard and backline pressure is higher in 11-1 as a result of the suicide boats and BB sniping

[deep thicket]

I had no idea it was harder than the ideal stages in chapter 12. But that makes a lot of sense since I feel like I need to actually put gear on units to run 11

[atomic abyss]

So what can happen is your frontline decides to randomly plow into a suicide boat and dies
Or your backline fails to shoot a suicide boat and dies
Or your backline gets set on fire from the enemy BB/Cs

W12 on the contrary has no suicide boats at all past the very occasional treasure (cargo) node and has no enemy BB/Cs

The only concern in W12 is hitting at least air superiority for your ACV, but that can be handled by the second fleet being fully carriers if your "grind fleet" is all BBs

[deep thicket]

So when new PR ships release do you grind chapter 12?

[atomic abyss]

I personally stick to 12 anyways
Some veterans may choose 13 for more coins since they have better gear and/or stronger ships to use

At the end of the day, it depends which birds you want to kill with your stone

[hollow void]

Event d3

[atomic abyss]

That too yes
I personally am more casual so I don't grind as hard

I prefer to take it easy and grind 12 or yes, event D3

Each answer has its own mertis

Which merit do you want is the question really

[twilit wren]

is z52 rerunning

[atomic abyss]

Not anytime soon at least

[atomic abyss]

Probably next year Jan at the earliest

[deep thicket]

I’m super casual too. It’s just recently I’ve been interested in optimizing/gear and actually learning about the mechanics of the game Lol

[twilit wren]

lol rip

wont be able to put the new skin to good use

[atomic abyss]

In that case W12 would be more advisable for farming exp

Whether you choose 12-1 or 12-4, well that's up to you ofc

If your fleet is decent levelled already (100+) then go to 12-4
Maybe you'll get a choukai drop too (not that she's any good but ya know)

[hollow void]

Medals+

[woven star]

Yeah 10 medals for free

[wind hazel]

what are some way to spend coins for endgame players other than buying cats+reroll and coin shop?

[atomic abyss]

Retrofits?

[slow fox]

Augment hell

[wind hazel]

o shit yes augment

[wind hazel]

all finished unfortunately, shipyard too

[hollow void]

fleetpower farming

[slow fox]

Waiting for Amagi CV rerun and full-sending for max copies of Amagi CV

[wind hazel]

too many amagi will create hentaivirus

[slow fox]

+13ing aux equipment in descending EVA stat

[slow fox]

200 kisaragis

[hollow void]

Honestly though fleetpower farming without dupes is prob best way, just enhance and equip gear

Number go up, you don't have to whale dockspace

[wind hazel]

i just needed somewhere to dump the coin cause i reached hard cap last night

[slow fox]

...20 kisaragis?

[wind hazel]

19 mutsukis

[muted wind]

i just dump it into gear then, which i guess is just the fleet power thing

[hollow void]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/773854041280479264/983184801278341241/ezgif-3-1033d45c6b.gif

[lean latch]

Give me coin

[slim condor]

Hmm I know she isn't 'meta' but I wonder if the reisenburg meta fleet would be good for Jintsuu meta since her info docs dont have newer ships in them

[undone plover]

Should work i think as it will be major overkill
Her gimmick was a bit different
But the fleet being majority eagle union actually works well for that gimmick

Assuming u mean the fleet posted in the pins

[sinful relic]

is bremerton strong?

[forest palm]

nah

[sinful relic]

shame, im looking to create a 3rd fleet for opsi.

i was thinking maybe cowpens can go on the fleet? doesnt she heal?

[wind hazel]

make a mob fleet
make a BB fleet
make a CV fleet

[undone plover]

Generally u want healer in mob only

[sinful relic]

cv?

[wind hazel]

carriers

[sinful relic]

another reason i was wanting more fleets is because of the sweep mode? maybe i can send people to clear campaign while i work on opsi? im praying thats how i can do it.

[sweet merlin]

who to use to dev ply?

[wind hazel]

this is old template, but more or less the same idea

[sinful relic]

i have NONE of those XD

[undone plover]

It remains to be seen how that will work
It is possible the ships on that type pf sortie are still usable in opsi and u dont need to make separate fleets
But yeah that is a good point
Imo wait and see before u commit to investing in more ships

[wind hazel]

you dont sound ready for 3rd fleet then

[sinful relic]

plus im finally starting to build up gold.

granted i was poor yesterday

[wind hazel]

you are poor today too

[sinful relic]

yeah im planning on waiting, im just seeing whose exactly useful that im not currently using. all i know is cowpens is decent

[undone plover]

Javelin london shropshire can work
Disclaimer: the previous statement is merely a humble opinion and could be considered suboptimal advice by some elite gamers

[undone plover]

Put her in your mob fleet if she is an improvement there

[woven star]

Unicorn good for mobing when retro

[sinful relic]

my current two fleets, im pretty content just leveling them up slowly while getting gear plates aswell. san diego needs her aug or mic thingy, nelson, san diego, aquila, helena, saratoga, and the twins need to level up their gear.

is alsace a vanguard or main?

[undone plover]

Main

[sweet merlin]

who sould i dev next?

[undone plover]

How many UR bulins do you have?

[sinful relic]

ohh so she can replace saratoga? im unsure how long nelson and alabama will last me.

[undone plover]

Generally u want 1 BB 2 CV
Alsace would ideally replace on of the BB for campaign
But u could also make a triple BB fleet for opsi when u get her
Do you have her right now?

[sinful relic]

currently 1, but im close to 2. im not gonna build any UR unless i have enough bulins dw. im just planning for the future. since anyone who gets replaced off my current two teams i might put into a third team for low level opsi ig.

[woven star]

You need 2 more good BBs to separate them for BB fleet. I'll keep at list one BB in mob fleet anyway

What about your FdG research?

[undone plover]

Well I would save for next event and wait before making big changes

[sinful relic]

no but i seen her rerun might be soon? and i heard shes generally good.

[sinful relic]

FdG? i wasnt even planning to go for her....

[wind hazel]

she's easily top 5 bb

🫃 maybe top 6 by next week

o shit it's monday, it's this week

[woven star]

She's can take place for Nelson so you can make Nelson, Alabama +1 BB fleet. Depends on vanguard what you have

[sinful relic]

currently my plans for research is finishing saint louis, work on anchorage, and maybe go for bayard or shimanto?

[wind hazel]

anchorage>agir>plymouth/shimanto, whichever faction tech you can fulfil

[woven star]

But I will skip Agir

[sinful relic]

currently anchorage is the closest one i have for points.

[wind hazel]

both plymouth and shimanto require quite a lot of faction tech, so have fun grinding. can do filler before them

[woven star]

Plymouth sometimes enough for tank

[wind hazel]

agir is still good as main tank for campaign

[sinful relic]

i should finish this in a few days? maybe 1 day if im pushing my girls hard enough (i have 16k oil, and max dorm with both teams filled in there)

[wind hazel]

and newbies wont have better vanguard options so they will fall back to the good ol agir helena plymouth

[sweet merlin]

is meck the only good PR8 unit and adminaral is the only good pr 7 unit?

[sweet merlin]

do 2x 3x runs, wait 2 hrs rainse and repeet

[wind hazel]

gouden is also great from series 8.

bayard is great mob dps, and napoli is... uh, tanky...

[woven star]

Yeah but how many good coinable ships we get i didn't find her good anymore

[undone plover]

Most of them are good
Those 2 + napoli/gouden are closer to “top of the meta”

[sinful relic]

pretty much how my team is rn.

[wind hazel]

damn whale 🐳

[sweet merlin]

should i do napoli or gouden first?

[undone plover]

U have 2 very solid teams
Once they hit 120 u can replace to level new ships for example u mentioned cowpens

[woven star]

Gl and Meck good but it's for long perspective. Yeah

[wind hazel]

gouden has better value

[undone plover]

Which one is closer to dev30?

[sinful relic]

i tend to wait about 5-10 mins per rerun of the 3x repeat for 12-1

[undone plover]

If u want to maximize xp wait more so they get full morale back

[sinful relic]

my boss team never goes down from 140-150 morale funny enough since they only do 3 battles XD, my mob fleet however...

if i dont wait takes about 4-5 goes of 3x repeat to reach 100 morale?

[woven star]

Make 2 fleets for mobs and put them to dorn

[sinful relic]

oh? i thought i only needed one XD

[woven star]

Lower morale less exp btw. So keep safe

[nocturne zenith]

Anchorage > Plymouth Shimano and Agir? 😮

[undone plover]

One 3x = lose 36 morale 6x2x3
If it takes 30 min u will get ~20 morale back
So maybe u can do 2 3x then wait 1 hour and repeat etc

[sinful relic]

im assuming saint louis is main?

[undone plover]

No she is a vanguard

[sinful relic]

ohh

[undone plover]

Check the Hull designations
She is CA so in van

[sinful relic]

idk who i would replace then. since my vanguard is solid? just need to work on helena gear ig?

[woven star]

EVA CA. Good tech too

[nocturne zenith]

How long does the Anniversary UR banner last?
Also. Do our current build counters carry to the UR banner or is that a completely separate counter and stars from 0...

[sinful relic]

ive been kinda neglecting san diego...

[wind hazel]

i was talking about the order of development...

[undone plover]

Anyone who is level 120
Because it is a waste of xp to still use them

If u mean to push then laffey is probably the best one to replace

[wind hazel]

CN and JP anniversaries are 3 weeks long. UR events are separate, they start from 0 and don't carry over to new banners

[nocturne zenith]

Bruh I almost lost my shit

[sinful relic]

should i work on retrofitting san diego?

[undone plover]

Separate counter

[sinful relic]

well ig san diego can get some levels for her gear then i can forget about her for a bit XD

[undone plover]

Imo no
Get her augment once u decide to push and if u have the resources for it
Think about retrofitting sandy after u lock down opsi and decide to push ch13/ch14

[nocturne zenith]

Shit... Hopefully I have enough cubes then...

[sinful relic]

got it

honestly i still have zero clue about opsi even after clearing 2 nodes or something, i have 10 stars XD

[undone plover]

Those stars are very grindy so dw about it
Your goal is to finish the opsi story and unlock reset
Check cheeky’s guide

[nocturne zenith]

So the UR that's getting released with the event.. how long will I have to pull her.. the whole 3 weeks then?

[undone plover]

We need a command for that guide

[sinful relic]

shes kinda lackin...

[undone plover]

I forgot what that riceball does but u want evasion gear + HP gear on cruisers generally

[nocturne zenith]

Aight then I'll get her hopefully.. worse comes to worse.. thanks lads

[woven star]

My guess it's your first opsi. So just clear it with 2 fleets. To be honest it's tutorial so true opsi after that

[wind hazel]

lol you have retro helena but you didn't let her learn her retro skill

[sinful relic]

i forgor

[woven star]

Yeah. Fake opsi

[nocturne zenith]

Shouldn't she have a radar here tho...

[undone plover]

Try and use those action points so it doesnt cap
Just enter a region and leave even if u dont clear it
Keep it around 100 so it slowly regenerates
Otherwise u are losing that passive regen

[wind hazel]

only if syncing to bb with tables

[undone plover]

Avoid scary icons for now
Just follow the opsi missions

[woven star]

After tutorial

[undone plover]

Smh slacking

[sinful relic]

im gonna clear my hard matches first and then ill focus on opsi

[wicked sluice]

Is the new ur out this Thursday?

[undone plover]

Wednesday

[lean latch]

Wait for extended maint to Friday

[wicked sluice]

Wednesday? Have they moved maintenance day?

[undone plover]

Only this time
It happens from time to time
Sth with CN exam season I think

[wicked sluice]

Shit im not gonna complain about getting to pull.on ur banner early lol

[eternal basalt]

aApparently monday the first is 3rd week

[undone plover]

Plus extra day of grind/voucher income

[wicked sluice]

Noice

[lean latch]

Is it really Wednesday?

[undone plover]

Check #game-news
It is yes

[lean latch]

finally I can gambling early

[wicked sluice]

Hopefully i dont get shafted, took me 350 cubes for soyuz

[nocturne glade]

180 cubes and a dream

[sinful relic]

nearly 300 but i wont roll unless shes good, granted she will be better than most of my ships i think

[woven star]

Last 3 events burn my 600 cubes. Got 2 piti perma ships and didn't get 1 ship from banner was rough

[wicked sluice]

Damn

[lean latch]

I did all-in for Scylla and I didn't get her

[sinful relic]

i got lexington within 30 rolls iirc

[undone plover]

Even if u dont want to go all in you can slow roll 3-5/day and decide last day
But usually in CN anni we get cracked ships

[sinful relic]

then i was cursed on laffey 2, didnt have enough coins since i was sitll pushing and fixing my teams at the timee, and i took abreak

now im back, my teams are more stable, and im earning coins

[eternal basalt]

Like Mogodor... literally cracked

[eternal basalt]

Laffey II was free though

[sinful relic]

jokes on you, i was lazy

[desert trellis]

how do i leave this zone

[undone plover]

Bottom right corner exit

[desert trellis]

the exit portal is surrounded by obstacles

[desert trellis]

i mean the hidden zone not opsi

[undone plover]

That exists the zone I believe

[desert trellis]

oh it works, ty

kinda trippy since ive never had this situation b4, ty anyways

[agile pewter]

The filler ships in the new bb gacha pool will be from heavy construction?

[undone plover]

It should be yes
But sometimes they can shake things up
There will be a wishing well anyway if you want to hunt a specific perma ship
Just make sure u dont go broke on cubes

[sinful relic]

wait what gear do i need to change? the aux?

[agile pewter]

Ehe I'm kinda coping now

I have 500 cubes now will that be enough for this and alsace

and wishing well if possible

[eternal basalt]

Use the EXCLUSIVELLY on banner pulls, 1 on light a day otherwise

Stay away from wishing well

[agile pewter]

Okay...maybe I can make it for the august one instead if I get lucky

[hollow void]

If you finish event early, what you can do is 1 wishing daily, and it doesn't hurt as much.

[agile pewter]

That's a good idea, thanks!

[sinful relic]

oh its forcing me to do a meta showdown?

[tulip tinsel]

wishing well is a scam

[shrewd cipher]

New player here, just install the game (that new L2D on twitter got me interested), is the game new player friendly in 2026? Im a bit afraid that since the game have been out for so long, starting now would make me missed out a ton of content

Is the game f2p friendly as well?

[eternal basalt]

First time OPSI? Then yes

[sinful relic]

how many times?

[lean latch]

Very friendly for f2p

[eternal basalt]

once

[onyx flame]

its free in the sense you can pick up the ships with no need to throw cash at em
the problem comes if you want skins as the gems for an f2p are scarce and you have to give up qol if you want to buy skins with them

[shrewd cipher]

So the spending part are all in skins? I dont have to gacha for the ship-girls?

[eternal basalt]

You DO need to gacha but very nice rates

[onyx flame]

you still have to gacha for the ship girls, but its possible to get everyship (that isnt collab) with enough play

[shrewd cipher]

Is getting dupes important then if the rate is so high? Or is dupes purely stats increase ?

[eternal basalt]

Dupes are for skins

[onyx flame]

"dupes" can be acquired for free as there are special units (bulins) that are used to limit break ships
and limit break are very important as they are a large portion of the ship stats

[viscid swift]

Might wanna give that a read.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_lgdko8DdtBSaZMceon-cvK1DsS-DPQQ-F2IOBrUAm0/edit?usp=drivesdk

[shrewd cipher]

Godsend, thank u kind sir

[sinful relic]

oh boy

now i have to create 4 fleets

[undone plover]

Iirc u can just put whatever and only use fleet 1

[sinful relic]

oh really?

[undone plover]

Idr if there was a level requirement tbh but try and see

[sinful relic]

maybe this?

[undone plover]

Oh
It only needs 2 tho
So use your mob and boss fleets

[sinful relic]

yeah i threw randoms stuff in and it completed the mission

[forest palm]

unsurprisingly 2501 is free

[onyx flame]

Shop ur

[forest palm]

https://azurlane.jp/news/747

[sacred yoke]

joffre is good CV ship ?

[undone plover]

She is upper mid-tier
Check sushi’s tierlist for more details

/tierlist

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Ship Tier Lists

Please note that tier lists are subjective and evaluation criteria differ from creator to creator. We encourage users to use multiple guides to get a better picture for ships' performance and said criteria.

🔹Rankings for End Game Azur Lane - Applicable to all forms of late game content (W14/15, META Showdowns, OPSI, CM) by Suchiguma
🔹CN tier list by Hashtag 5467

use /equip for list of equipment TLs and guides
use /guide for list of helpful gameplay guides and FAQs

[sinful relic]

went into one of the regions for opsi, bruh theres easily like 20 ships here i have to fight, bruh

[undone plover]

If u have a healer you should be fine-ish
U can always go back and heal at port then continue fighting
Just make sure u have recommended adpats (the stats on the right side of opsi main menu)

[sinful relic]

my mob fleet is killing them easily but theres so many XD

[undone plover]

Oh actually in hidden zones u cant come back after u leave
So dont enter them unless u are sure u can beat it
My advice is to tackle them later in the month since they dont go away

[undone plover]

They can summon reinforcements so be careful
U have to turn off a device
Tho I forgot the full details
Usually autosearch deals with it really well

[sinful relic]

i uh destgroyed the thingy and it spawned more

[undone plover]

But I think u havent unlocked that yet
I recommend u read cheeky’s guide and finish the opsi story first

U may have destroyed another device
See the part where it says disrupt their communication device
That should change if u actually kill the machine iirc

Check the ❗ marks on the minimap

[sinful relic]

chked the first ! and it kidnapped me into a battle

[undone plover]

Yeah that is what u want to do

Stick with opsi story and unlock autosearch

[sinful relic]

the wall of sirens XD

[undone plover]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cLPieopZYrpcu_0tqFjs0vcZ5ZqBgafWuQQ9MZkn0xQ/edit?usp=drive_link

[sinful relic]

yeah reading that, theres no red thingies i think, so im just clearin all the nodes with treasure chest looking icons

[undone plover]

Check your quest log
See what it tells u to do
Idt u have finished story yet

[sinful relic]

OH THANK GOD i dont need to battle them all, i just need to ecollect the thingies and go

should i do this again?

[undone plover]

Start it and fight once
Then call for server help

[sinful relic]

it ded

[undone plover]

And keep calling until they clear it for u
If not u can keep fighting yourself but it is tedious and wasted oil (max spent is 200 per 1 boss)

[sinful relic]

it was only lvl 1 so

[undone plover]

U can get 200 coords per day
And 3 free attempts to help other ppl
All give sync points which let u unlock the ship (regensburg meta)
No reason not to get her really but dont use her

[undone plover]

Oh true I forgot it starts on lv 1

Even if u cant do a lot of dmg do all your attempts
U still get decent pts for helping and clearing

[sinful relic]

see no red icons so im just clearing stuff till it lets me go further

[undone plover]

Hmmm…… let me check wiki I forgot how to bring up the quests

[sinful relic]

its all the wya over here

OH

okay my bad thats on me

[undone plover]

No all good haha
Yeah keep following that

[sinful relic]

imma just do auto search

[undone plover]

That would be better yes

[nocturne zenith]

Dammit there are anniversary specific microtransactions

I heard there were none :/

[undone plover]

There are “puzzles” at some point
But u can just spam moving and at some point TB will suggest skipping them for u

Well there are no special deals on gems or skins
Except the usual lucky bag
But that is not anni specific

Some other resource specific transactions can happen but usually they are not worth it for low spenders

[sinful relic]

i like how my mob fleet can destroy the bosses pretty easily ig i dont need boss fleets just yet ig

[undone plover]

That is usually how it goes for opsi
Until u reach the scary bosses

[sinful relic]

auto search is pretty useful, but i think it needs to have things visible for it to be useful?

[umbral briar]

does anyone have a list of healers in AL? especially the main fleet

[undone plover]

Yeah
There is a 30 minute cooldown recon that can be used on most zones
On the minimap there should be a button for commands
Check there

[sinful relic]

got it

[nocturne zenith]

What's the command that links the website which has details on resources, from where and how many you can get etc

[undone plover]

This website will have ships tiered by protection which can include healing
Check the descriptions it should mention healing if they have it
Sry idk a better source
In the filters pick these 2 options

https://azur-lane-regal.suchiguma.com/

[undone plover]

https://azurlaneecgc.com/common_resource/

[nocturne zenith]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Skills

Go here and search for heal and restore. Ig that will show ALL.

[nocturne zenith]

Thanks Faerlein

[whole crypt]

it's just hidden endless spawning, but you only need to kill the red sparky nodes anyway

hidden zones spawn trash nodes every 5 turns as long as any rally nodes are still up

[slim condor]

Yeah sorry the z52/WillieD/Aroura/Yorkie/Lexie/Kearsarge fleet (couldn't look till recently)

[undone plover]

Idr the vanguard pressure but i believe it should be fine

[sinful relic]

btw if by chance i get the UR early should i continue rolling for a 2nd one? or no like 30 pulls early XD

[lean latch]

There is Alsace rerun soonish you might want to save for her
But if you are high on cubes, maybe?

[exotic sorrel]

They did say they have around 500+ iirc?

I think with my cubes I'll be able to pull for 2 different UR ships and get them mlb, correct me if I'm wrong but the UR SS is free isn't she?

[lean latch]

She should be free

[undone plover]

Since UR bulin income is decent there is really no need to chase dupes
Especially when u are new and might want to pull reruns
We almost never recommend going for dupes
Only maybe if u drop the UR at like 190+ pulls then it could make sense to do 10 extra pulls for the guaranteed dupe at pity

[timid beacon]

Does the normal pity transfer to event too?

[viscid swift]

No.

[glossy granite]

What is going on 😭😭 Twitter tweaking and Mogador skin going viral asf

Breaking news for the unemployed

[timid beacon]

That’s nice but this huge news for US

[sinful relic]

ahh okay, only reason is because i only have 2 bulins atm so i cant build her when she arrives XD

[undone plover]

Event will come with one more
And I think we are at the point where cruise pass should also max out soon for another one

There is your 4 bulins

And dont forget medal shop spec core and monthly spec core if not maxed out yet

[timid beacon]

Over time you’ll get them don’t worry

[exotic sorrel]

Who should I get between Shimanto and Agir? I might need one of them for help in ch 14-15

[icy cave]

how many 16-4 runs does it take to bring its threat level to safe?

[lean latch]

Iirc , it should be 10

[icy cave]

thanks!

[undone plover]

if this is strictly for ch14/ch15 then shimanto > Ägir
Disclaimer: the previous statement is merely a humble opinion and could be considered suboptimal advice by some elite gamers

[tulip tinsel]

why pick 1 when you can get both

[plucky tapir]

as a new player, when would it be optimal to use the exp packs I do have?

[onyx flame]

when you your planning to level a ship you book em to a survivable level and then send them to chp 12 mines

[undone plover]

to rush new ships u want to build
u dont want to use a level 1 ship to farm ch12
so u use books to level them to around 80-90 then u can continue farming ch12 on safe without risking them dying

[lean latch]

You can use them if you feel like you struggle at certain stage

[plucky tapir]

Ngl, I've been tempted to throw the book on a ship or two to be able to do more commissions easier. (lv 30)

[atomic abyss]

well that is one way of using it
my recommendation is that you use it for helping ships to "catch-up" with your main fleet in case you replace one of them

were you the one that asked if saratoga could replace ranger in their fleet?

[plucky tapir]

Yeah, I was. I'm currently using her.

She's lv 56 with my other ships around or above lv 70 mark

[atomic abyss]

ah so for example, you could use the exp packs so saratoga is roughly the same level as the rest of the fleet

[atomic abyss]

if you DO have a lot of books, you could do that
i wouldn't recommend this however

unless you really have a few hundred lying around that early on

[plucky tapir]

yeah, just feels bad to have to constantly pull ships off main fire squad to just complete a commission.

[hollow gust]

No point hoarding exp books , just exp your stronger ships and push

[plucky tapir]

I'll wait it out.

[undone plover]

if this is happening to you and preventing you from running comms no harm using the books to get rid of this problem
tho pick sth useful for later

[atomic abyss]

yeah, if you want to do that, that would be my suggestion

tho i suppose the question then is, what is the useful ship

[exotic sorrel]

Alright looking at my ships I may not need Agir, Shimanto perfectly helps my issue on my mob fleet

[plucky tapir]

Soon, I will be able to have a San Diego as soon as my handbook mission completes in a few hours (gives 100 medals) . I also have a Nelson. I was thinking one of those potentially.

[sweet delta]

You cAn do tech or collection bands like Yorktown and hornet

[undone plover]

what is your current fleet and where are you in campaign?

[plucky tapir]

lv 67 unicorn, lv 75 pennsylvania, 56 saratoga, lv 73 laffey, lv 71 helena, lv 65 portland, on mission 6-4

been just trying to push that squad for exp. I've been focusing on trying to get unicorn's retrofit first.

[undone plover]

i wouldnt rly swap anything out
just work on MLB them and retro uni
u want to start farming event soon asap in 2 days

[plucky tapir]

good news is that I have just one LB left for each of them.

[undone plover]

focus LB one at a time
dont spread your resources
focus 1 then move to next
high prio are unicorn penny and portland (tank)

[plucky tapir]

Oh I've been just using dupes that drop from stages when I get them.

[undone plover]

well that is good since it saves u bulins
but using purple bulins is fine
I wouldnt wait for drops especially for purple ships. u could be waiting a long while
and getting stronger and pushing ASAP is better

[plucky tapir]

I currently have.... 6 purple bullins

and one Helena and Unicorn dupe.

[undone plover]

LB/MLB and dont wait

like i said
prio for unicorn portland and pennsylvania

even if u are stuck on 6-4 due to commander level this might still help u push hard mode for better core data income

[plucky tapir]

sounds good. I'll get Portland/Unicorn/Penny/Helena to MLB when they get back from comissions.

I have enough bullins to do those.

[undone plover]

they will need to be level 70 anyway so u might have to wait on some of em

but just do it when u can
incidentally have you been linked the newbie guide?

[plucky tapir]

many times over.

[undone plover]

oh ok
was it not clear in the guide that u should be using purple bulins or do u just like to save stuff personally
cuz if it is not clear maybe we should make a point about it

[plucky tapir]

it does talk about the MLB stuff but it does not mention about using the purple bullins

or at least in the section of Basic Fleetbuilding/do not level dupes

I had thought that meant just use the drops you get to limit break.

since I tend to try to be super conservative with spending resources like bullins(limit break)

[undone plover]

yeah no that is perfectly fair

i will mention it to cheeky since i think i have seen other ppl have similar thoughts in the past

[plucky tapir]

ngl, the whole starter fleet section of the new player guide is super vague.

[viscid swift]

In what way?

[plucky tapir]

Once you obtain the starter fleet, it does not really mention what to do with them or what goals with said starter fleet is, I know it's meant to be purely a transitional fleet in the grand scheme of the game, but it feels like it brushes over it too quickly for me to fully understand what I'm aiming to do with it.

Yes, progression and chapter 9 are clear here, however it does not really go into much detail or how to take that starter fleet to that point is my main issue.

[viscid swift]

What do you mean by "how to take"?

How far to take it?

[plucky tapir]

More accurately, should purple bullins be used on them asap? Or try to farm dupes for them first?

[viscid swift]

Limit break for them ASAP.

Purple Bulins aren't to be hoarded like that.

[plucky tapir]

Maybe in your do not level up dupes section/higher rarity add the section about using the bullins for the starter fleet?

Maybe even a priority list of what to try to MLB first? In regards to the starter fleet. That part might be overkill.

[viscid swift]

Just decided to do that for now.

[plucky tapir]

That makes it a lot more clear.

[viscid swift]

I'd rather not honestley since that feels like mirco managing.

[undone plover]

yeah it wouldnt matter much anyway
as long as you are limit breaking u will be fine early on

[plucky tapir]

In any case, thanks for the update to the guide.

[sweet delta]

Technically, if the new player is autonomous enough to recognize how close they are to losing in the next chapter, then they can delay limit breaks to save 🤏 oil. But that is just my opinion and not a recommendation to most new players because they don't know

[plucky tapir]

I can mlb either laffey or Saratoga with my leftover bullins. Which one should be priortized?

[sweet delta]

Saratoga

[plucky tapir]

Got it. I wonder how much of an impact 5x mlb will make.

[viscid swift]

5?

[atomic abyss]

for a carrier, going to max limit break from 0lb is about 3x the DPS

[undone plover]

i think he had a lot of ships waiting at 2 LB

[plucky tapir]

Every ship was just one lb away from mlb