gameplay-help

[gilded hare]

Anchorage uses vanguard or main exp?

[small kraken]

guess my view sight need some fixing

Too much coins, I'd pass if me

[sweet merlin]

do it now

just make sure you dont go below 400 cubes

[onyx flame]

i would take it but that depend on u regarding cubes
you got enuf to guarantee pity for the next ur but we also got a ur rerunning after (not right after) with alasce

[atomic abyss]

i believe abercrombie was the last one to be added
like in year 0

[small kraken]

what does NJ, NvH, and Vanguard replaceable with

[exotic sorrel]

Like a lot of other UR battleships

[small kraken]

Such? I got Musashi though

[sweet merlin]

eg bis2, alasce, lion,

sovetz

[small kraken]

I thought Zwei is bad

[exotic sorrel]

It lit says there battleships like biszwei

[sweet delta]

You thought wrong

[sweet merlin]

dont slander the first ur i got like that

[small kraken]

indeed I were

[exotic sorrel]

You're better off spending your UR bulins on other upcoming URs anyways

[small kraken]

Now I have Shinano, NJ, and Shima to LimBreak

Should I just Abort those intention

[sweet merlin]

yeah abort

and get the new upcoming UR first

[small kraken]

such shame, I got 4 UvH when the first she shows up

quite sad she's the most avoided

[exotic sorrel]

You have what? 4 Ulrichs?

[small kraken]

I just got one UvH 2 days ago

[exotic sorrel]

Yah just keep her in your docks

I think they can be leveled up beyond 100 even if they're not limit broken

[small kraken]

now now

How do I build York2

I just stack her with the lowest fr and highest avi planes/items

[exotic sorrel]

Depends on what she's gonna be used for

[small kraken]

multi-tasking please

[onyx flame]

no such thing
https://azur-lane-regal.suchiguma.com/ship/574

[small kraken]

I got AD-1 skydiver though

uwaaah, rainbow equipment.. such pain

[prisma yarrow]

shhould i run nakhimov with tashkent or give up the Np s and just go with laffey 2 cuz i have like 0 good NP vanguards lol

[sweet delta]

Is your nakhi even dev 30

[sweet merlin]

how to get lots of opsi AP?

prefeably quickly

[inner delta]

if quick then using oil

if not go buy boxes

other than that just wait

[hushed sorrel]

the docks sell ap is what yuki means with 'buy boxes' also try not to miss any akashi when you do opsi. she almost always sells ap boxes

[sweet merlin]

what are the chances of akashi appearing?

[hushed sorrel]

i cannot tell you an exact number

[tulip tinsel]

🔮 🔮

[sweet merlin]

ans the shop are out of boxes... i wish the shop would rest more frequently

[grizzled heron]

Hey, anyone know what's the drop rate for gold gear bp

Hvar bp from war archive for example?

[hushed sorrel]

i dont know about the drop rate but it isnt recommended to grind bps. you should do operation siren for gear

[sweet merlin]

for opsi strong holds i just kill the main boss asap and get out right?

[rain vine]

clear the entire map

[sweet merlin]

do i want to farm/fish for node recaptures?

[grizzled heron]

Yeah but you cant really get hvar from gear lab tho

[rain vine]

the node recapture only happens once

[sweet merlin]

does auto serach fully clear strong hold or what do i need to do after it?

[rain vine]

fully clears it unless there are cloud weather tiles

[sweet merlin]

is perposlying doing DR/PR that i have alread D 30 just for anaylisis worth it?

[white agate]

sometimes it does, someothers you look back at the screen swearing the fog should just fuck off

[sweet merlin]

ikr, like cant the auto just walk out of there, it walk itself right into it in the first place

[white agate]

for dr/pr get

• ships you like
• meta DR ships
• good tech main fleet pr/dr ships

getting more protocore is mot something foundamental, eventually you will have enough as to not know where to spend it

[sweet merlin]

i need the protocore to get bps for the ships i am deving

and i have done catchup

[white agate]

just convert the exp from the beginner missions and the bi-monthly pass

[white agate]

just use focus research, using protocore for bp is kinda wasteful

for older pr/dr there is also coining

[sweet merlin]

who do i use to farm exp to dev nakhimov?

[white agate]

aquila

she is a good ship to level up too

[muted wind]

would definitely recommend volga too

[sweet merlin]

how to bootsrap new ships from lvl 1 withouy books?

[nocturne glade]

you can put some toolboxes on them so they survive a bit if you really need to

[nocturne zenith]

So umm...
If catch up is complete for this series.. the only way to get more Roon would be to buy general series blueprints or do research missions which have roon on em?

[north gorge]

You can just use coins instead of BPs for Roon

All PRs up to series 6 and all DRs up to series 5 can just use coins

[iron berry]

Hi! Is there a semi-decent sub team I could build rn? Flasher - Patty - Albacore?

[split bramble]

I already disabled td tutorial, but I still get td on the left corner speaking, is there noway disabling that box?

[undone plover]

that should be decent yeah
but only work on subs if you need em for ch14+ and hard arbiter

[undone plover]

iirc that came with the new update and not sure u can remove it
but also afaik it doesnt do any harm

[split bramble]

its just cluttering, i guess there is noway to fix it

[iron berry]

Yeah I use them for hard arbiter mainly

[crystal flume]

do we know when Princeton META will ever come back?
need that last dem tech

[onyx flame]

she shoud be next when the next cruise pass enter shop so uh june i think

[weary edge]

what’s the best way to level subs

[forest palm]

whenever there's an active Raid Event, outside of that, same way you normally raise ships

[wind hazel]

dorm and exp books. secretary to 90, boost to 100 with island planner gifts 🧠

[last ocean]

is this gun even usable? I can't really find it in anything so I'm assuming no, but thought I'd ask

[muted wind]

it's a fast gun with too low damage to be worth using over similar options

[last ocean]

worse than the purple 410s?

[forest palm]

it's shit, not worth bothering with

[muted wind]

yeah, just use the purple 410

[weary edge]

are bf109gs nakhimov’s bis for her second slot

well, side from another la9

[muted wind]

for anti-medium, yeah

[inland shoal]

I had of course completely forgotten by the time I got home, but finally done now

Thanks again

[sweet merlin]

why is the pr guide so detailed but the Dr is just FDG > the rest?

[woven star]

Yeah iirc no EU or HMS ships. Outdated my guess

[tulip tinsel]

outdated cuz imo ply higher prio than fdg

[ivory pawn]

Plymouth and Aegir are the two other most relevant coinable DRs. You’ll probably end up doing Aegir first because of tech, but if you get the tech for Ply do her first.

[woven star]

Just follow FdG, Plymouth, Anchorage, Shimanto
AvP if have need in stun

[sweet merlin]

should i interrupt adminral for Plymouth

is it worth to echange purple tokens from aksahi in opsi?

[inland shoal]

Cuz PR is a lot easier and faster to max

And it really doesn't matter in which order you build them, just in which order you max them

[inland shoal]

Unless you're tryharding, yes

[sweet merlin]

id you mean tryharding as in C1 AP farming, yes

[ivory pawn]

I would.

[inland shoal]

I wouldn't, it makes little difference

Unless you really want Ply

If you C1 farm you need the coins for more AP, so you can't really afford to spend them on purple tokens

[prime cave]

can anyone tell me how to farm ur gears

or ssr gear

[sweet merlin]

farm opsi

clear everyting
farm C1 buy more ap
farm C5/C3

[prime cave]

what is opsi

[sweet merlin]

operation siren

mid high end content., you get mats for Gear lab

[prime cave]

ok

[prime cave]

i am at 10-4

[sweet merlin]

high end conet starts at chap 14

[prime cave]

ok how many chap does this game have

[sweet merlin]

16

[exotic sorrel]

12 is the best one to clear as soon as possible, since that's where you'll be farming comfortably

[heavy zealot]

What main gun do i put on musashi?

[heavy zealot]

And for lion, so i use this, or the one from her event

[onyx flame]

https://azur-lane-regal.suchiguma.com/ship/217
https://azur-lane-regal.suchiguma.com/ship/138

[sweet merlin]

wht makes a tank a super tank and why laf2 is not considred one?

should laf2, Z52 or eldrige hold hedgehog for W14? i have lion

[soft raft]

What does Lion have to do with ASW?

[heavy zealot]

Quad 152 seems good... How many copies should i get?

[inland shoal]

Wdym?

[inland shoal]

Can't really have too many

[soft raft]

Exactly as I said
Why did he mention Lion when he's asking who should get Hedgehog

Cuz afaik, Lion has no skills regarding ASW nor even has that stat

[heavy zealot]

Soo, i prio that? Since pretty much all bb and cl want it?

[soft raft]

Realistically you only really need like 2-3 copies of any given UR gear

Any more than that is considered luxury

[heavy zealot]

Am quite low on the t3 ordinance thing , is it really random drop on opsi? Or are there specific stages

[soft raft]

Random drop yes

[heavy zealot]

I can access these on the tierlist right?

[wind hazel]

@slow fox

[inland shoal]

Oh his question, I somehow didn't even read that part

[inland shoal]

Not really, for your CLs it's good, but when do you use CLs with good dmg, for BBs it's good, but not particularly important, it's just the best gear to go for more copies for once you have enough of everything

[sweet merlin]

wait am i triping or is there a main ship with built in asw?

[wind hazel]

only cvl

well, asw stats

and apparently chen hai and hwah jah have 0 🫄🏼

[sweet merlin]

ok who holds hedge hog? laf2, z52 and eldridge

[wind hazel]

the one less likely to die, usually laffey

[sweet merlin]

what are Siren Construct and should i set to stop on them?

[heavy zealot]

Who here first?

[wind hazel]

none, wait for new UR

[heavy zealot]

Ah,i thought id go for laf2 or sovetsky soyuz, oke :3

[heavy zealot]

New busted upcoming ship?

[wind hazel]

we dont know

[whole crypt]

Lion can burn subs, it might be slightly cope

but nothing to do with using hedgehog

[soft raft]

Considering that I didn't even really know that, yeah that sounds cope as hell

[whole crypt]

lionflame jumps to closest enemy when a ship with it on dies

this can jump onto subs and burn them too

it can help ASW but I wouldn't rely too much on it

[wind hazel]

still has nothing to do with who holds hedgehog lol

[whole crypt]

it does help that the burn damage is not affected by ammo pen though

yeh, it's more of a case that Lion can help with subs but not specifically who should use hedgehog

[crystal ore]

Btw. Do i have to rush to map D and max all 3*?

[undone plover]

Start c1

1:1 ddg + uni

Also no reason to 3 star anything unless u want to

[crystal ore]

Ddg?

[undone plover]

An shan class

[sweet merlin]

what are Siren Construct and should i set to stop on them?

[undone plover]

Low oil cost + strong makes for good option to 1:1 hard maps

[undone plover]

Iirc some of the exploration rewards in opsi need u to do this but not sure which construct counts for it
Porbably set to no for stop and chase those manually
I remember setting it to no for stop very early on

[sweet merlin]

may next time we can expand on this, eg if using strat serach, to stop on merchant, siren contuct, ensure reduce tb guidance is non, etc

[undone plover]

Is this cheeky’s guide?

[sweet merlin]

ecgc

[hearty trout]

on yt theres a hidden l2d skin interaction, is there no guide for the skin for where to tap ?

[viscid swift]

Eh not really.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vZslo_Mq3IIAnczYG0BkHHJlJU49zw5aJFZWNXD1ZZQ/edit?usp=sharing

[waxen ingot]

is this update 'delayed' a date compared to normal - Friday instead of Thursday

[vivid swallow]

is it still worth to buy lvl up to 70 in shop? rn im lvl 56

[undone plover]

There is a google sheet but idk if it has every l2d
Let me see if I can find it

#gameplay-help message
check this link

[viscid swift]

Worth is subjective but if you're willing to spend a little on the game yeah.

[sweet merlin]

“Doc geared towards new players “
Doc also has merkburg, a ship that is pr8 and wants zwei, another ur ship

[undone plover]

It doesnt assume u have her
Just tells u u could focus her prints if u so wish since she is easier to get than for example waiting 2 years for lion rerun

[viscid swift]

One of the best all-around UR BBs in the game currently. She has good damage against light armor and outstanding damage against medium and heavy armor. She’s one of the few BBs with salvo capacity +1, so she isn’t affected by absolute cooldowns, making her quicker to reload her main guns in practice compared to other BBs.** Her skills do give her a preference to be sortied with Bismarck Zwei for a 15% reload buff for herself and to apply 5% damage debuff for the fleet, but this is very much a case of nice to have than an outright necessity for her to perform well.** She’s an excellent choice among non-coinable DRs for a new player.

Might wanna read a bit first.

And this is meant to help players who to decide to invest in first.

[undone plover]

Mecklenburg being tier 8 doesnt change the fact u can max her prints in 3-4 months with proper focus
And that is relatively fast compared to other options

And zwei is perma soon

[hot lion]

Ok im lost, they all got the slash augment(hai twins got their unique and yat sen the sword)
so i should see 3 slashes but i only see 2,
THIS is the position they should be in right?
also pinghai not in front, ninghai not in last, yatsen shouldnt matter right?
or should i put yatsen in middle

[hot lion]

also musashi in bottom so she is not vanguard and so her sword slash hits more enemies right?

stupid question ik but still

[hot lion]

so 2 slashes, 1 higher lvl from hai twins and 1 from yatsen sword, got it ty

[undone plover]

U should see level 3 spread afai can tell

Ping and ning augs are spread
CL sword is spread
So level 3 spread

[muted wind]

level 3 spread does 2 slash attacks, that's correct

[hot lion]

they both look like this, this is the 2nd slash

[muted wind]

yeah, that's correct, the level 3 adds a 2nd slash projectile

[still knot]

Is there a reason I should use her? Even if I can't retrofit her
Her skill looks nc

[undone plover]

So u are getting level 3 which is 2 slashes I suppose

[viscid swift]

No.

[still knot]

K

[hot lion]

got it then, ty

[undone plover]

Does CL xbow not have slash?
Aldb doesnt list it

[muted wind]

no, it's just a passive effect

[hot lion]

should work on max leveling the augments and awakening them but gold is so hard to come by man...

[undone plover]

I see

[hot lion]

btw this?

[undone plover]

Musashi flag

[hot lion]

thats how they look

[muted wind]

musashi's sword slash should hit more enemies if she's flag, but i'm not sure it really matters if someone else wants flag-- okay yeah put musashi in the flagship spot

[undone plover]

Musashi middle
Btw china wall is a meme rly so idk if they are rly worth using

[hot lion]

really? doesnt she have a skill that says she has to NOT be flag?

[muted wind]

it also works if your air control isn't terrible. you have 2 CVs there, it's gonna be enabled

[viscid swift]

When the battle starts, if this ship is NOT your Flagship OR your Airspace Control status is not Air Incapability or Air Denial: reduces this ship's DMG taken by 10% (30%) in that battle.

[undone plover]

It is OR
So just make sure u fulfill 2

[muted wind]

that said, if she takes too much damage, not having her as the flagship to avoid losing is also a strat. unlikely with aquila and unicorn tho

[viscid swift]

Pretty sure this is just a farming fleet anyway.

[hot lion]

fair enough, i used to play alot but quit like 2019,2020, back then they were good with their retros, dont really have smtn else to use instead tho, and they are damn near invulnerable

[hot lion]

its my main mob fleet......

[muted wind]

i have always understood china wall as "you won't die but you will time out"

[undone plover]

They also dont do much dmg I believe
And have been hella power-crept
If u are farming that is fine but raise better ships to tackle harder content

Should be fine up to ch13 probably

[viscid swift]

Either way, you should be pushing for W12.

[undone plover]

/tierlist check tierlist
U could have better ships

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Ship Tier Lists

Please note that tier lists are subjective and evaluation criteria differ from creator to creator. We encourage users to use multiple guides to get a better picture for ships' performance and said criteria.

🔹Rankings for End Game Azur Lane - Applicable to all forms of late game content (W14/15, META Showdowns, OPSI, CM) by Suchiguma
🔹CN tier list by Hashtag 5467

use /equip for list of equipment TLs and guides
use /guide for list of helpful gameplay guides and FAQs

[muted wind]

i mean this should easily clear at least until w13, yeah. that's a better spot to change your mind about what to use anyways

[hot lion]

yea im slowly working on it, my main boss fleet still has eugen, ayanami(which i wont replace tbf) and belfast
my previous mob main was fox sisters and nagato, i just changed them to aquilla and musashi

so most resources gone on that

i do want to max my Z52, but dont have bulins for her, just 1/4, so wont go for it yet

[undone plover]

Get to ch12 and farm there for a while
Raise better ships and tackle harder content
Or just stay in 12 and chill no harm in that

Yeah wait for CN anni
Z52 is good but we could get sth better

And always save enough to MLB (4 bulins usually) then decide
Dont partially lb stuff

[hot lion]

im mostly chillin atm, was farmin ch10 for gold and exp to hit lvl 80, and yea im in no rush, its a casual af game for me and for nostalgia sake, so i dont care waiting a week to max a ship so i can replace

[viscid swift]

I will just say for the record.

[undone plover]

Ch12 is where casuals camp
Ch10 not ideal
So get there if commander level allows it
Musashi uni Aquila is easy mode

[hot lion]

so all in all, wether i slowly push to ch12+, or stay in ch10 and wait till i got a comp ready to steamroll through ch13+, makes no change to me

[undone plover]

Oh btw also turn off that auto submarine call
And dont use subs yet

[hot lion]

ye thats why i level then

[hot lion]

how come? like ok i get the no need for subs, but not use them atall? its mostly for leveling them they not even built

[viscid swift]

Eh I would considering W12 is vastly easier and more efficient to farm XP and coins in.

[undone plover]

I think u can easily push to ch12 and should do it as soon as u can
Dont wait in 10
It does make difference to xp and coin income

[hot lion]

these the ones i will level

[undone plover]

They are wasting oil
Also u dont need em atm and dont have resources to fully invest in em anyway

[hot lion]

yea i remember you helped me make a team too with current ships but lowkey wanted to level aquilla, now that this is done i will push then and start building again then, after reaching i dont mind waiting like a month till i start ch13 while building ships

[viscid swift]

W13 and beyond isn't particularly relevant.

W12 very much is, I'm still farming there over 5 years after I started.

[undone plover]

We might get better subs by the time u are ready to invest in them so dont raise em yet imo
Raise 1 sub to clear lv 65 sub raid
Then farm that raid to get bidder blueprints
That is all u should worry about for now

Your i58 can probably clear that raid

[muted wind]

i mean, they have 3 subs above level 90, they can probably just throw that at it

[undone plover]

Yeah that too

[tulip tinsel]

useless without retrofit

[hot lion]

will push then, w10 i barely take any dmg even if mobfleet rushes it with china wall and aquilla unicorn healing so wont be hard

in the meantime im levling skills of ships i will use like aquilla musashi and then ill work on replacement on boss fleet

[viscid swift]

Don't work on leveling anything new until you get to W12.

The point of the fleets I reccomended is that they were more or less ready to go.

A few more levels here and their as you pushed would have taken you to 12-1 at least.

[hot lion]

Enty got to go(no soon i know she is good still but will get hakuryu eventually for shinano synergy)
Belfast and eugen now idk, for frontline im leveling noshiro(lvl 115 now) but for belfast replacement idk

[hot lion]

yea when i say leveling i mean skills and stuff, will level exp on w12 then

[hot lion]

yea thats what i said, but i was taking things slower cuz wanted to work on something, and having thought of it over ill get to W12, then start replacing, then progress further

[viscid swift]

Also flag NJ not Shinano.

[hot lion]

hm, shinano was flag cuz of the butterfly thing but alright, then shinano bottom for better effect hit and enterprise top?

[viscid swift]

That barrage does next to no damage.

[hot lion]

yea ik, was helping with suicide bombers

[hollow gust]

ur bb at flag deals with suicide bombers...

[hot lion]

ah i didnt know that, thanks

[hollow gust]

if you are replacing ships the vanguard is the horrible one

[hot lion]

once i get to W12, for belfast replacement im thinking either sandiego(already max skills and augment) or would it be better to work on eldridge?

and opinions on frontline for eugen replacement being noshiro?

again dont mind if the best option for a tiny margin is lvl 1 onworked on, dont mind having smtn to do once i hit W12, just wanna plan things out

[viscid swift]

Unless you have her retrofit the item Eldridge is useless.

And Noshiro can't replace Eugen.

[hot lion]

ah event thing nvm, dont have it

[viscid swift]

Once you get to W12 you'll be in a prime position to start working on PR ships.

[hot lion]

yea thats my next replacement goal

[hot lion]

i plan to get shimanto after hakuryu, but will that be belfast or eugen replacement? Also eldridge is out but sandiego?

[viscid swift]

You already have plenty of replacements for Belfast.

[hot lion]

which ones are worth though?

[viscid swift]

Anyway, do you even have enough tech to start Hakuryuu.

[hot lion]

yea she is started already

i can even start like kansas if i wanted to

[viscid swift]

DDGs, Helena, San Diego, etc.

Really, though, don't worry too much about "worth it". Leveling ships once you get to W12 is easy.

[viscid swift]

Can you start Plymouth?

[hot lion]

unfortunately no

mostly eagle and sakura are 900+

[viscid swift]

That's an easy enough fix.

You might wanna give this a read.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/194GQ9AJbmXjxUZAbMlnUCUQt6v_Tjnebedpbz7wn78c/edit?usp=sharing

[hot lion]

bookmarked it for later

[hot lion]

are DDGs even worth if solo? thought they were a combo thing like china wall

Helena id love to use since she my 2nd favourite ship after ayanami but wont having her in rear be bad since she is squishy? dont really want to replace ayanami, maybe id consider with Z52

And san diego, if helena wont do is an easy fix, 8 lvl diff aside she probably almost more built than my belfast

[hollow gust]

Yatsen + DDG will get you way further than Ayanami Belfast and Eugen

[hot lion]

yatsen is on my mobfleet with the twins, i can replace the twins in the future with DDGs is they are good mob fleet

[viscid swift]

Yes, you need to read their skills more closely.

Helena tends to be positioned in the middle yes.

[hot lion]

yea thats what i mean, but ayanami on rear would be even worse i think, so helena isnt a viable replacement for belfast then

[viscid swift]

I'm saying to drop Ayanami entirely.

Though it's not as if Helena can't off tank.

[hot lion]

my only requirement for now is keeping ayanami, idc if everything else gets replaced she still my favourite ship so i will keep her atleast for a while longer

ik she got powercrept af and if i struggle in the future i might bench her, again with stuff like Z52, but for now i want her in

so all in all is it better to go for taiyuan(from skills seems the better solo DDG option) or sandiego for rear ship?

[viscid swift]

Tai Yuan is the best of the 3.

But not because the other 2 have pairing requirements.

They have buffs for other ships but those buffs also apply to themsleves and are a bonus, not a pairing requirement like Ping Hai and Ning Hai.

Who need to be sortied with Yat Sen to be half decent.

[viscid swift]

San Diego.

Really though you can look at REGAL to see what the potential of the ships you have are.

https://azur-lane-regal.suchiguma.com/

[hot lion]

yea been looking through this alot since the last time you recommended it, but since some ships benefit another, or rough looking through all the options for campaign tier rank i wanted some specialized advice

since it also doesnt show placement

[viscid swift]

Placement for what?

[hot lion]

yea sure, my point is their buffs arent FULLY utilized which could impact their rank, obv better running them together if you go for smtn like an-shan with her skill even though it affects her as well

regardless, sandiego is in and belfast is out for now, and will check what i can do with shipyard ships too, might finish haku first tho

Also meant positioning(rear, middle, front) etc...

so mb

[viscid swift]

my point is their buffs aren't fully utilized which could impact their rank

it doesn't, unless stated otherwise, we assume ships are run solo in the sense you aren't building fleets around their buffs if they're more specialized like An Shan or Chang Chun's.

As for positioning.

[hot lion]

yea agree, that was my point too

[viscid swift]

Do you know how we define the best tank?

[hot lion]

was mostly judging from skills in the past, with knowing armored cruisers are the prefered

[viscid swift]

No.

[hot lion]

aside from it depending on enemies, i want a generalist one

cuz AP and HE no?

[viscid swift]

The best tank for any given content is the ship that can consistently live main tanking while contributing the most to the fleet.

[hot lion]

yep, while eugen can consistently live but not doing much for the fleet

[viscid swift]

As you can gather, the requirements for being able to live consistently will vary quite a bit depending not just on the content but the set up you run.

[hot lion]

ye depending on what they run, as others buff for example sakura ships or just cruisers

thats why i wanted generalist advice and not just the tierlist

[viscid swift]

You're not quite getting it are you.

First, the most powerful buffers and debuffers tend to be generalists among vanguards.

i.e., Plymouth, Z52, William D. Porter, etc.

[hot lion]

we talking vanguards in general or frontlines of vanguards? Z52 supposed to be front?

[viscid swift]

Z52 can main tank yes.

[hot lion]

ok damn, now need to LB her then

regardless, you were saying

[viscid swift]

No you don't, especially with the CN Anni barely a week away.

Could very well be a ship that directly powercreep Z52.

Anyway, as I was saying if you want to look at who can tank, look at their eHP / survival rating on regal.

[hot lion]

even if i wanted to i couldnt now since no bulins, for now im chilin on them, i do think spending my bulins on musashi was a bad idea for this reason but dont regret it as much tbh

[viscid swift]

Balance that with their overall ratings for the various content and you can start to parse together who's a good tank and why.

[hot lion]

this then

[viscid swift]

Portland (100) is the minimum we'd consider a tank.

[hot lion]

didnt know z52 was as good, barely bothered with her tbh

[viscid swift]

“Jack of all trades, master of none” pretty much sums up Z52. She does a little bit of everything, she has good personal damage, good AA, the Flagship Cover skill (-25% damage received for your flagship), she’s pretty tanky (to the point where she can main tank a decent amount of content), and she has a 5% universal damage debuff that lasts for 5 seconds when your off flag fires their main guns/launches an airstrike. She doesn’t really have any weaknesses, but being a jack-of-all-trades is also why I don’t rate her more highly. She’s a very nifty ship to have and can do many roles, but there are a few times where I’d say having Z52 made a decisive difference. She makes up for this by being a very good option for just about any fleet.

[hot lion]

hmm, will reconsider after the CN ani and high chance i build her depending then

but alr ill check the tierlist once again later while keeping eHP in mind, was only looking at the ratings like this.

for now haku in enterprise spot for shinano synergy and sandiego in belfast slot then, once im done with either plymouth or z52(or if i get smtn better) ill replace prinz too

and depending on that ill change ayanami last possibly with helena as well

this is the plan for now then

ty for the details and info once again tho, appreciate it

[regal flax]

what is the expected gem income?

[viscid swift]

900 this year from the EN Anni.

If you're lucky a few hundred extra from Gem Commissions and extra handouts.

[sour hollow]

Total noob question, I bought the level 70 pack, should i just plow all of the exp items into the starter fleet and bum rush chapter 11?

[viscid swift]

No because among other things.

You wouldn't have enough XP Packs to level all 6 ships anyway to a state where they could clear W10.

[sour hollow]

so save the packs and grind my way there slowly?

[viscid swift]

Yes.

[whole crypt]

what you could do is use the packs is if a good ship comes along you can bump that to join your fleet, since leveling them from 1 early game is kind of meh

[weary edge]

is the SU-6 worth crafting? i see it's ranked above helldiver for dive bombers but it looks like i cant craft any of the predecessors, so id assume you'd have to amass enough blueprints to craft the SU-2 first?

[whole crypt]

wherever the hell ranks su-6 above helldiver?

[weary edge]

it's mentioned that it's only better against non moving bosses

[sweet delta]

Just get a tenrai

[weary edge]

i only have 1 😢

[sweet delta]

What fleet are you using such that the second strongest dive bomber only slot is significant?

[weary edge]

i wasnt looking to craft it immediately, but was more so wondering how one would craft it since i cant craft any of the predecessors

[sweet delta]

Open northern parliament tech pack

[whole crypt]

if you got Su-2s from researches before maybe but you're better off just sticking with helldivers

[weary edge]

lowk

[weary edge]

those exist? 😭 i dont think ive ever gotten a tech pack that wasnt eu rn sakura or ib

[whole crypt]

if you craft up from tech pack plane you need to spend 14 ord reps to get to Su-6

[weary edge]

ah hell nah jigsaw

[whole crypt]

you might as well save that to craft up for more T3 ordreps and get a tenrai down the line

[weary edge]

lol true

[whole crypt]

against heavy bosses the single DB slot isn't that relevant anyway, there's a good chance you won't even be using a "damage" DB if you end up picking a fast DB for timing

[weary edge]

should that be a priority tho, the only UR gear ive crafted so far is a single wyvern

[whole crypt]

different rainbow print

[weary edge]

as ive only really started grinding opsi since last month

[whole crypt]

I personally wouldn't consider a second or third tenrai a high priority

[viscid swift]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vRMH0Yyv6vWH1apqWU7t0xV9xax73CELlCIC5g7Lw-pJnKpwDM4UBcTN22oqnfRKKq-3GQ6_0FbhcB8/pub

[weary edge]

i was originally going to craft an mk7 after the wyvern but i heard it only really makes a difference at +13 which i dont have the upgrade parts for

[whole crypt]

Mk7 is already better than Mk6 even at +10, it's just not a very significant difference until you enhance past +10 and it's bloody expensive for rainbow gear

[weary edge]

oh right i remember reading this a few days ago, looking at it now i might go for the 76mm

or, when is the next gear lab update? i cant remember if someone said it was cn anni or near the end of 2026

because a skyraider would also be nice

[sweet delta]

June

[weary edge]

oh bang

btw how often are the samheart564 image guides updated in #bot-spam?

[viscid swift]

I can't remember the last time they were updated....

Maybe the start of the year?

[weary edge]

i see it's missing moskva gun, but aside from that i think it's mostly updated?

[sweet delta]

The websites say October

[weary edge]

i dont remember what lex2 gear was, was it the divebomber?

is that divebomber any good? because i see it has armour break but isnt mentioned on any tierlist 😭

[still knot]

Is this good I just got it

[sweet delta]

wdym it's not mentioned on regal

[sweet delta]

Why did you get it before you asked? If it were bad then you wasted 500 coins. In this case luckily it's useful

[still knot]

It looks cool so I crafted it mb

[weary edge]

well i was looking at ur og quick gear guide, but now that i look on regal it's not there either (the F4U)

[sweet delta]

[weary edge]

is it supposed to be there lol

[viscid swift]

You were saying.

[weary edge]

oh it only shows up when i click light boss tab

also there's no need for the attitude man, you can just say "oh if you click on the light boss tab it shows up", no need for sass. that being said, the original quick gear guide still does not mention the F4U

also why is it light/medium boss only if the armour break only applies to BBs/BBVs?

[viscid swift]

It's armor break is irrelevant.

It's used because it's fast to reload, which can help get off an extra airstrike, particularly in META showdowns.

[weary edge]

ah, i see, that makes more sense

[weary edge]

btw all love, i appreciate ur insight

[viscid swift]

I didn't mean for it to be sas, just an "are you sure?" moment because there's a lot of stuff there and it's best to do a thorough check.

[weary edge]

ah i see, sry for the misinterpretation, online messaging can appear so dry sometimes

[pearl creek]

Hi! Playing again after like a year and half, currently was on ch13
What and which ships should I focus on that are still relevant?
What ships should I focus on get / farm / develop?
Any help is welcome because I'm a bit lost / overwhelmed after that much time lol

[weary edge]

you already have all the useful ships there built in terms of campaign progression, id say wait for the UR event coming next week(?) as it should be a double UR event

[pearl creek]

Oh gotcha, didn't know there was an UR event coming
Are rerun URs or new ones?

[weary edge]

new

[pearl creek]

Nice, ty!
And which PR ships should I go for? Any of the PR8?

[weary edge]

both DRs strong, Mecklenburg in particular being probably one of (if not) the strongest anti heavy BBs in the game

[pearl creek]

Thanks a lot

[weary edge]

you can use this site for further insight https://azur-lane-regal.suchiguma.com/

along with this document https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vRMH0Yyv6vWH1apqWU7t0xV9xax73CELlCIC5g7Lw-pJnKpwDM4UBcTN22oqnfRKKq-3GQ6_0FbhcB8/pub

[slow charm]

does the high efficiency combat logistic plan double affinity rewards too? or just drops and exp?

[atomic abyss]

everything, so yes
that includes morale lost too

[weary edge]

had to search it up because i didnt know either lol

[slow charm]

Also- newish player here, I've been playing for abt 3months now and I am deeply jealous of your loadout. It looks good!

[slow charm]

I looked it up and couldn't find the answer :/
Now i feel like a jackass for asking smth easy to find lol.

Thank you both!

[weary edge]

lmao you're good, happens to me too

actually just happened to me but who's checking

[pearl creek]

hahaha thanks a lot really! Tbh I played a lot back in time, but forgot almost everything and playing catch up now!

[weary edge]

same actually, except i lost my account and had to start fresh back in august last year 😭

[slow charm]

I lost my old account too except mine wasn’t impressive. Pretty sure I’m further now than back then. Once my auto play ends, ima flex 3 months of progress. 💪
Although, I’m sure somebody will point out that I should be way further along since I’m kinda bad at this game

[weary edge]

lol nah dw, at 3 months in i was still sitting on w11 or w12 so dw about it

[slow charm]

very start of w13 rn. My gear is a genuine mess

[weary edge]

i mean it looks like you've been following some guides so that's good

when i restarted i had someone basically tutor me from start to finish so thankfully i avoided wasting a lot of resources

[slow charm]

That's dope of them. I've been using a lot of guides and I still make a ton of mistakes and waste resources 😭

[weary edge]

well if you're ever unsure of anything you can always ask here

there's always plenty of people happy to help out

[slow charm]

I definitely do. The issue is when im "sure" and wrong

[weary edge]

here's my dock after i think 8 months now

(all the semi lb's r from dupes so dont atk me)

[slow charm]

Nice. Eldridge is actually a perfect example of what I'm talking abt. I see she's high value in the rankings and bought and started to retrofit before i realized i need an event item

[weary edge]

im actually sitting on 8 rainbow bulins

[weary edge]

oh.. 😭 yeah that really blows, she's just ridiculously versatile and tanky

thankfully i actually started playing around her retrofit event rerun, hopefully it will be added to the spec core shop soon

[slow charm]

Im genuinely jealous of ur comps too lol. I'm currently working on Nakimov's exp requirement. And Agir is jsut best girl and you have her best outfit

[weary edge]

that was actually an accidental purchase lol, i was pretty new at the time and i was checking the skin price and mistapped the buy button, i tried opening a support ticket for a refund but they wouldnt budge

nakhimov is also very strong, she's an amazing anti medium cv, but she's not really at her best till dev30 (like most dev ships) mostly due to the fact that at dev30 she can equip fighters in her dive bomber slot, which means you can have a bf109g in there instead of a helldiver

my nakhi is like, 100bps away from dev30 tho, but her damage is still insane regardless

[slow charm]

lol, unfortunate that they didn't refund ya. Also im looking at ur URs and u must have used like 30+ UR bulins which is just insane dedication

[weary edge]

i can actually count for ya

[slow charm]

I kinda did. It’s 28 for ur MLBs in the picture and some have a partial LB

[weary edge]

lex2 -> 4 bulins, moskva 3 bulins+1 dupe, laff2 3 bulins+1 dupe, hakuhou 4 bulins, shinano 3 bulins+1 dupe, the rest were all dupes (yes including soyuz, +4 dupes lol)

[slow charm]

oh, my dumbass forgot abt dupes lol

[weary edge]

so like, 21 bulins in total, forgot to include musashi

[slow charm]

BPs are genuinely the worst thing ever. I've been doing almost nothing but PR7 research for like a month since I realized how it worked and I'm not even close

[weary edge]

oh, you should prioritise PR8 research

[slow charm]

what? don't tell me this now 😭

[cobalt robin]

yes

[weary edge]

what i did was dev30 both pr8 DRs, then i started working on pr7

[cobalt robin]

I mean if you really wanna dev30 nakhi then you can stay on pr7 but if you wanna be efficient, pr8 is better

[weary edge]

honestly you probably could since you do have moskva and soyuz, but next UR might be an ironblood BB who will synergise with mecklenburg

and i think cheeky mentioned shop UR will probably be a sub

[cobalt robin]

Better wait for confirmation (I want Chinese ur)

[weary edge]

brotha gonna be waiting forever 😭 😭

[slow charm]

I'm 300 Tech away from the one on the left. 100 Tech away from the two in the middle. And I have enough Tech for the two on the right.
Can yall explain why prioritizing PR8 is more efficient?

[viscid swift]

Specifically a Type 21 U-boat.

[weary edge]

still crazy to me how you were able to get all that just from a faded picture of a gun mount 😭

[cobalt robin]

2 amazing ur ships, best heavy/medium bb gun

[weary edge]

yeah meck gun is just insanely good

also imo, since it's the latest PR level, you might as well start working on that since it takes a while, which gives the lower PR levels time to become coinable

[cobalt robin]

mcborger is one of the best bbs and elf momma is a top tier aa ship with good dmg and tankiness

[weary edge]

it's MECKLENBURG! 😡😡🤬🤬🤬 put some respect on her name

[cobalt robin]

Borger

[weary edge]

im also really hoping it's an IB BB that powercreeps bizwei so i can focus my pity on york2 to complete my anti light comp

@viscid swift what are your thoughts on the chances new UR is a BB?

[slow charm]

<sigh> fine, I'll switch...
Dont get me wrong, super thankful for the advice, but realizing I was doing it wrong for a month feels like a kick in the nuts

[weary edge]

i get it, it's definitely a bit of a setback, but once you're done with PR8 then you'll have a headstart on pr7

i must say, the only really noteable ships of PR7 are the two DRs and Bayard. which even in most cases Napoli isnt that used since her only redeeming quality is her insane tankiness, while her other stats are kinda meh

[weary edge]

u can actually just read about all of them here

[viscid swift]

Well it is a very distinct mount that was only ever used on them.

[viscid swift]

Unfortunately very likely.

[weary edge]

YIPPEEEE

[cobalt robin]

[hollow gust]

BBs are so so fucking boring

[viscid swift]

Historically, the CN Anni event has been headlined by a BB since at least 2019 (Bismarck, Richelieu, New Jersey, Vanguard, Bismarck Zwei, Alsace, Lion) and from what we can see of the other ship's sillouette the gun we can see appears to be a Twin 150mm mount.

[hollow gust]

And we have enough for 3 fleets already

[cobalt robin]

bbs aren't boring but we just have so many new ur bbs

[weary edge]

who is WE bro, i have NOTHING 😭

[viscid swift]

And as much as I cope for a UR CL there doesn't seem to be any remotely good candidates.

[cobalt robin]

I want sum else

[weary edge]

my friend was also praying for a UR CL

[cobalt robin]

I also want

[weary edge]

since it's kinda crazy how plymouth is the only one aside from sandy retro

[viscid swift]

The difference.

[weary edge]

ive heard enough, another 5 billion cubes to UR BB development

[slow charm]

I can contribute 500 😎

[slow charm]

Dude. It’s ridiculously impressive that you knew and caught that!
Is your knowledge in nautical warfare purely a hobby or do you do this for work? Like are you a historian?

[regal flax]

How do i deal with the coin cap? i feel like im punished for saving money, do i ignore the hq income or stay around 50k

[viscid swift]

I am most certainly not a historian and I cannot take credit for the discovery. That's someone else' work which I just read about.

I do have a passion for naval history though.

[slow charm]

I see. Still, thanks for sharing cus it was interesting to read! I am a nerd ☝️🤓

[onyx flame]

real hardcap is at 600k
but it depends on how long you plan on saving for there always something you can spend coins on

[regal flax]

i dont think im going to reach 600k any time soon, im talking about the soft cap only

the amount of money/day seems good enough for me to consider staying under it, but i dont have anything i "need" to spend money on

[slow charm]

I’d recommend spending it on coin-up blueprints or watching shop refreshes for upgrade parts or other useful stuff

Ig it depends where ur at in the game tho

[regal flax]

im really new, i have a fleet at lvl 100 and the rest of the ships under 50

[onyx flame]

there always ships to lb/gear to enhance/ship bps to buy but i def wouldnt spend it in the shop unless you really got nuthing

[regal flax]

im sure i have something i could spend it on, for example i dont know what reaserch is worth getting so ive been targeting ones with nothing cost

[slow charm]

Look at the Memories. Some of those groups of ships are important to MLB for key gear.
I would use your gold to start LBing them early

[sweet delta]

You get what you pay for

[regal flax]

mlbing ships is pretty cheap, getting them to lvl 70 is the issue for me

[sinful wind]

what do you do with a crap ton of purple bulins?
can you combine them into a golden one or something?

[cloud panther]

New options...

[viscid swift]

Use them for limit breaking.

[sinful wind]

dont have any R ships that need limit breaking for now

[viscid swift]

Commons and Elites also use them.

[sinful wind]

sorry yeah i meant the purple rarity ships

[regal flax]

i want to mlb prinz eugen, do i use bullins or farm war archive for copies

[viscid swift]

As I say, they're also used for commons and rares.

[sinful wind]

is it worth using them for those ships tho?

[viscid swift]

Farming the WAs for dupes would be a massive waste of oil.

Though Eugen wouldn't be a ship I'd prioritize for SR Bulins either.

[regal flax]

im doing it because i like her not for meta

[viscid swift]

If you have nothing else to do with them it's better than retiring em.

I would still recommend waiting until after you get to W12.

Those Bulins come in handy as you're pushing.

[regal flax]

ok, ill wait then

[sinful wind]

ill just hold onto them for now then
only ship i need them for rn is retrofitting unicorn

[sweet delta]

if you're that new, then you should have no shortage of ships to use bulins on

[forest palm]

hit the 4th one it repeatedly spawns loot tiles and boxes till the node disappears

[regal flax]

am i fine with picking whatever UR i want when i get 400 spins spark?

[viscid swift]

There are reccomendations though even the best of them do end as long term projects or on the back burner.

[nocturne zenith]

Is there any figure listed on how much oil can be made via commissions and daily missions?

[slow fox]

I'm actually not the one to answer this question. I just give numbers.

I believe other people have different criteria. Like 140+ or something.

I would call her a supertank...

[nocturne zenith]

Brother you're a legend.
Thanks

[slow charm]

How do yall check when the next update/event is?

[sweet delta]

#game-news , Chinese/Japanese game news, and guessing based on previous years

[regal flax]

is the 1k oil comission ever worth?

[sweet delta]

• If you're overcapping on oil and can't play
• if you need coins and you can't play
• if it gives cubes. The commission never refreshes by itself, it's not worth burning 10k oil to cycle it to one that gives cubes

[pearl creek]

When following the gear guide, I see that most of the times only 1-2 units of the same gear are recommended
I guess in the game is expected to be constantly swapping gears between the unit I'll use for each combat or...?

[sweet delta]

If you're a new player, then you only need 6 ships. Later, you might have 20 ships who need to share gear. Even later, you might have 20 ships who need to share the best gear, but 20 other ships or many slots can just use extra non-best gear

You don't need to swap gear unless you would lose without swapping gear

[pearl creek]

Ooooh ok ok, gotcha, ty!

[grizzled jacinth]

Thoughts on my Sakura fleet?

[inland shoal]

Faction fleet, not great

[sweet delta]

Faction fleet, not great
Great for a faction fleet

[viscid swift]

Never a good sign when I can't tell what the fleet is for.

[grizzled jacinth]

What’s wrong with faction fleets?

[sweet delta]

No matter the faction, your sixth best ship of one faction is worse than the best ship of some other faction

Even if that faction ship is receiving faction buffs from skills

[grizzled jacinth]

So how should I optimally build a formation?

[sweet delta]

First, tell what the fleet is for

There's no one fleet fits all content

[wind steeple]

is stage 1 of every chapter still the best for exp farm ?

[viscid swift]

Something like that.

[whole crypt]

that only applies to ch9 onwards when oil cap dictates x-1 gets better XP/oil than x-4, but it also gets less coins

if you're a heavy grinder you're also getting less XP per morale spent in x-1 than x-4

[wind steeple]

yea I’m farming ch10 rn

[whole crypt]

if you can get up to 11 at least, otherwise 9-1 is better XP/oil than 10-1 as well

[wind steeple]

Not all of my ships can farm ch11 rn

only like one fleet

[viscid swift]

Have you got 11-1 down to safe.

[forest palm]

11-1 is kind of tough to raise ships in

[weary edge]

wait when did meck get a secretary mission thing

[inner delta]

recent, idk the date

[weary edge]

mustve been pretty recent unless i really just havent tapped meck in that long 😭

[ivory pawn]

Pretty sure it was last maintenance, so like 4 days ish.

[weary edge]

oh so is that what the "new memory" is?

i did see that in #game-news but thought it was some stuff in that weird secondary menu in the lobby

[ivory pawn]

I did too tbh, but context says otherwise.

[weary edge]

i mean, im not complaining 🤑

[grizzled jacinth]

Can someone help me craft an ideal formation to clear 13?

[viscid swift]

Have you given this a read yet?

https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/progression-guide/#chapter-13

[grizzled jacinth]

No. I’m new to the server

Thank you for sharing it tho. I’ll give it a read

Hmm I’m still unsure of how to build my boss and mob fleets

[viscid swift]

What are you confused by?

[grizzled jacinth]

I understand the concept it’s more so what ships I should use

[viscid swift]

Start a thread and post screenshots of your dock here then (leave out commons and rares).

[grizzled jacinth]

Bet

[sweet merlin]

does uni have preload?

[ivory pawn]

Once retrofitted, yes.

[sweet merlin]

which is better?

[ivory pawn]

Energy Storage is worth 5 vouchers.
Special Token is worth 2 vouchers.

[sweet merlin]

there is no use is stocking up o nvochers that wont be used

[ivory pawn]

Then it matters not which you choose.

[sweet merlin]

alright cause i thougt maybe killing them would give more rewards/ diff rewards fro the choises

[small kraken]

Any of these I should erase?

I just thought it would be a waste to retire them blindly

But idk what's good

[viscid swift]

Is buying more dock space not an option?

[small kraken]

It is, but not everyone could buy yes

[viscid swift]

And you have almost 50 free slots anyway.

[viscid swift]

I mean for you.

[small kraken]

Not that much, 5 times auto battle 10-4 then it's full

[small kraken]

That's exactly my problem, I need to decommission most of them but idk which

Some already got retro though

[viscid swift]

So you can't / wont buy more dock space.

Are you using High Efficiency Combat Logistic Data Plans when you farm?

[small kraken]

The yellow book? Yes

To enhance some of them

[viscid swift]

For the record I mean these.

[small kraken]

I use them yes

[viscid swift]

I would be more conservative with them.

They're strictly time savers.

[small kraken]

Not that I often use them

[viscid swift]

Also, why the fuck are you farming in 10-4?

[small kraken]

Gold ofc, also I stuck at 11-1

[viscid swift]

You could easily push through W13 with what you have.

[viscid swift]

Literally how?

[small kraken]

I'm poorly managing my equipments

As I said, Idk which good for them

Do I stopped there before I go further

[viscid swift]

https://azur-lane-regal.suchiguma.com/

Refer to this, get them equipped and push.

I don't wanna know how bad the gear is for this account to be bottlekneck by 11-1.

[small kraken]

Hey, I stop there on purpose

[viscid swift]

Why???

[small kraken]

I better get good gearing up or I'll get cucked in further progress

[viscid swift]

11-1 and then W12 after it are sigtnificant step ups in farming efficiency.

And for your fleets, a fucking cake walk.

[viscid swift]

W12 would be the place to stop and do that, not W10.

[small kraken]

Tell me a good fleet composition with those

[small kraken]

Kinda lazy maaaan, the 3 star requirements. I'm still lvl 93 further more

[viscid swift]

Mob: Musashi, Unicorn, Saratoga, Kronshtadt, Yuudachi, Roon
Boss: Bismarck Zwei, UvH, Yorktown 2, Anchorage, Helena, San Diego

[small kraken]

Helena still good? Is it the SG radar

[viscid swift]

You can come back and do them later if you really can't be bothered.

[viscid swift]

Yeah.

[agile pewter]

Is it better to put the wyvern on unicorn or indep

[small kraken]

What does York2 good at

[viscid swift]

I'd do Independence myself.

[viscid swift]

https://azur-lane-regal.suchiguma.com/ship/574

[small kraken]

Glad Y2 is a good ones

[random rain]

hello, when do you use subs when clearing 15-4? for bosses? when the mob fleet ran out of ammo when trying to 3-star?

[viscid swift]

I think I saved them all for out of ammo fights.

[weary edge]

would it be better to try and get danger level to safe before attempting to get the clear all enemies star

[north gorge]

if you're struggling then yes

[small kraken]

May I ask for op siren also? 4 squads ain't it?

[viscid swift]

Give me a few minutes.

[viscid swift]

Bismarck Zwei, UvH, Vanguard, Kronshtadt, Helena, [filler]
Musashi, Unicorn, Saratoga, Anchorage, Tai Yuan, An Shan
NJ, FDG, Warspite, Roon, Yuudachi, San Diego

4th fleet can be whatever.

[small kraken]

No destroyers? I guess cruisers dominating field with their FP and hp eh

[small kraken]

Much obliged

[viscid swift]

There's literally 3 DDs in those fleets.

[molten gorge]

Hi, I've just got vanguard build. Should I use her in early game or wait 'til I get through chap 9 or 12?

[small kraken]

How does Tai Yuan and An Shan is good?

[atomic abyss]

They are very good if you get their retrofits
However their retrofits are not especially high priority
As they require specific item for retrofit that use the same currency you would use to buy rainbow bulins

They are good because they have very high damage

[atomic abyss]

Don't use her

A UR without limit breaks is usually meh
And vanguard isn't worth using rainbow bulins on over a limited UR

[molten gorge]

i got it

[hollow gust]

Harbin Yatsen has more use for the general playeebase

[atomic abyss]

Is there a reliable way to get yat sen

[forest palm]

wait out for LNY or dumpster dive Light build, so not really

Yatsen is extra steps either way, and you're not missing much for not having her

[small kraken]

I need coins.. where to get more

[wind hazel]

12-4 or 13-4

[small kraken]

nnnaaaaaa

[atomic abyss]

12-1 if you can't do 12-4

For some reason

W12 is generally easier to farm than w11

[hexed glen]

W11 has enemy bbs that consistently light up your backline and set you on fire. W12 doesn't.

[small kraken]

darn, gotta catch up to w12

[sweet merlin]

is lion good for chap 13? and which for soyuz

[small kraken]

its benn 4 years i've stayed on 11-1

[clear harbor]

I was going to say AL isn't a race, but yeah. 4 years seems like a while to be on W11.

[small kraken]

and then stay at w12 for the next 6 years

[hollow gust]

Lion is the best ship for basically every content , and i cant tell u which gun without knowing what content

[small kraken]

how could i get any of the rainbow items

[onyx flame]

get them from event or play more opsi to craft them in gearlab also keep up with your research academy

[small kraken]

op sirens ehhhh

[tropic tusk]

Wt is that feather?

[forest palm]

Angel's Feather +AVI +EVA, in Core Data

[tropic tusk]

Thx

[whole crypt]

fact is even if you're past 12 it's still overall the best place to level until you have to chip cope

[small kraken]

what chip?

[rain vine]

cog chips
http://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Dockyard#Cognitive_Awakening

[small kraken]

oh, the dark blue one

[rain vine]

no, the light blue one

[agile temple]

Is Sirius or Kazagumo a better buffer for CV?

[untold sierra]

Hi guys, my front-line characters, the Moskva Gouden and Napoli, are level 120, but I have limited chips and a new UR is coming. Which one should I upgrade to level 125? I currently have enough chips to upgrade two ships to level 125.

[atomic abyss]

Do any have max stars

Strictly speaking 125 is wholly unnecessary unless you're challenging high end content

You can save your arrays until you're sure of who you want to raise up

[soft raft]

Kazagumo
Tho for most budget CV teams, you'd use both of them at once

[gilded hare]

Help for getting tech points

[golden moth]

Will there be a livestream this weekend for the UR even soon

[gilded hare]

I heard it'll be on May 15

[onyx flame]

cn stream but its on bilibili

[sweet merlin]

What is lion not used at?

[small kraken]

If I put torpedo auxiliary on An Shan, Tai Yuan and other missile dhips

[soft raft]

She's quite good for alot of stuff
Tho of course you wont be using her in 3CV comps

[soft raft]

Missile takes from torp stat yes, but Oxytorp is still a extremely niche item that is barely worth it most of the time

It's either just stat padding for hard mode/META fight or a "Win harder" type gear

[inland shoal]

https://discord.com/events/456397991847395339/1499552949926629518

Can always check evnts for this kind of thing (though sometimes we forget, then just yell at us)

[random rain]

Aren't CN events notable for not starting on a Thursday? When do they start again?

[untold sierra]

None of them are fully booked yet, but they will be, except for Napoli and Gouden.

[atomic abyss]

Then don't 125 them yet

Typically, backliners would want higher priority anyways

Since they're the main DPSes

Even then
If you're at that early stage where you have to choose

I would just not 125 them at all

[soft raft]

The livestream start time?
You can uh

See the start time right there on the event thingy thorin just posted

[random rain]

No I mean the CN anniv event itself?

[atomic abyss]

As far as I'm aware

[soft raft]

No that still starts on the same day of the week as all events do

[atomic abyss]

With the notable exception of a few collabs

And public holidays

Events almost always start on Thursday

[soft raft]

What you're probably thinking of is CN and JP Anniv events lasting 3 weeks instead of 2

[jolly coral]

Last two cn annivs have started on the tuesday

[lofty shadow]

Guys is the prototype twin 457mm gun good?

[shadow yarrow]

From a might-as-well-use-them standpoint which gear should i get from this

[atomic abyss]

Vit-2 is very good

[atomic abyss]

It is excellent
But not a very high priority to purchase/craft

[shadow yarrow]

Oops i screencapped the wrong series, this was what i meant

[lofty shadow]

Oh

Cause it's the one I just finished buying with the prototypes thong

[sweet merlin]

Bis lion sov
Bis lion meck
Sov lion admineral
Bis lion alscae
Which should i use

[hushed sorrel]

did they remove the boss debuff in 15-4? i wondered that my attempt to auto clear was a success O.o

[whole crypt]

any of them should maim OS bosses fine

[whole crypt]

in clearing mode yes

[hushed sorrel]

thank you

[feral token]

I'm a new player. Is it worth creating a new account now?

[exotic sorrel]

Better late than never

[whole crypt]

what's the stats on Wakatsuki's special ASW? this made it past 14-4

[vivid swallow]

this is my first time playing azur lane and still dont know how to make a good fleet. any guide/tips on my fleet and how to make a mob fleet/boss fleet.

[ivory pawn]

Rule number one: Only use MLB ships.

Each star packs enough power that lower rarity MLB ships can easily outgun higher rarity 0LB ships.

[versed forum]

is the new tb dialogue a new feature? or a bug? just recover my account yesterday

[ivory pawn]

New feature.

[lofty shadow]

I finished freddy now who should I do in the pr?

[plain saffron]

new, instead of blocking the screen now it just become the side dialogue

[muted wind]

looks like a lower range, higher damage normal depth charge? if my data is correct. (ignore the absolute cooldown that's probably wrong)

[versed forum]

wait you can't turn it off right? even with the setting on for tb guide reduction?

[ivory pawn]

#gameplay-help message
Also what chapter are you on?

[muted wind]

pretty sure what tb guide reduction does now is just move it to the side in that small box. without it, it interrupts the gameplay.

[vivid swallow]

rn? still stuck chapter 7 cause im lvl 57

[vivid swallow]

so sr mlb is stronger than ur 0lb ship?

alright

[ivory pawn]

Aye. Try MLBing Oumi and Ryu, and run Uni - Oumi - Belfast - Ryu - Tashkent - Helena in the single fleet to finish 7, 8, and 9.

[hot lion]

when fighting subs is just equipping a hedgehog enough? it doesnt spot them to actually hit em right? i have to also have equipped a sonar

so just equip both on my frontline is the best call right?

nvm found a guide online on a wiki

[muted wind]

sonars are no longer necessary to detect submarines, that was a change that happened a long time ago. just equipping a hedghog is enough. for subs in w14+, you may want some extra ASW for consistency though

[hot lion]

yea i read that CLs and DDs now have standard sonar by themselves, a nice change tbh, on smtn like the chinese wall for W12 and W13, would it be smart to also equip a sonar to increase range or not needed?

cuz well, 3 CLs

[muted wind]

there aren't any subs before 14-3 anyways lol

... well, events also often have subs, but they aren't even worth considering usually

[hot lion]

got it

alright then ty

[vivid swallow]

alright will do, thanks btw

[vivid swallow]

wait which one is belfast

[ivory pawn]

Sorry, I meant her sister, Illustrious.

[plain saffron]

there's dialogue that's can be skipped and can't be skipped
the skipped one gone if skip is enabled
the unskipped is move to the side

[plain saffron]

what's moved to the side is the one excluded from the reduce guidance

[muted wind]

ah yeah that's what i meant. there are still things that pop up, but those have choices associated generally

[rain bobcat]

strim is 15 yes?

[north gorge]

yes, there's even a discord event for it

[undone plover]

Is there a link?

I want to bookmark it
I cant see one on the discord event

[north gorge]

not sure about a link for billi

[ivory pawn]

https://discord.com/events/456397991847395339/1499552949926629518 I have a Discord link.

[agile pewter]

About how fast can blueprints for a specific ship drop from research

I try to focus on bp as much as possible

[last ocean]

I'm confused - I see mention of the twin 410 purple version on gear reference, but don't see the yellow version of the same gun

[wind hazel]

because the gold is absolute dogshit

[hexed glen]

Gold version has no value unless you like seeing your ships shoot confetti.

[last ocean]

really? It isn't just an upscaled version of the same gun?

[wind hazel]

no

[last ocean]

huh, thought that was how purple/gold versions of the same one worked

[hexed glen]

Normally, yes. That gun might be the only exception.

[last ocean]

though I notice for battleship guns on the list I'm using it basically goes from purple 406 / 410 straight to UR

[north gorge]

yep

[tender lotus]

Any changes to arbiter lineup?

[last ocean]

Apart from the obvious one of Ulrich, any other of my BBs I should consider moving forward? Just got Warspite upgraded recently

[undone plover]

10-15 per day with full D and G focus
~15 initially dropping to 7-10 later when only 1 is left

[last ocean]

annoying that it doesn't let me differentiate in search between BB/BC

[undone plover]

Dont invest bulins into uvh

[wind hazel]

coin your monarch to fs5 and augment

or wait for the new UR, likely to be BB

[last ocean]

true, I'm holding for Bismarck Zwei once she hits the 400

[undone plover]

And get musashi from perma pity
And stop pulling perma banner

For BB invest into nelson if u need another BB urgently
And like mori said monarch seems close to usable soon

Zwei also works if u are at pity and she is available

[exotic sorrel]

The gold one makes the gun shower into mini bullets that miss most of the time which you lose out a lot of dmg on, so yeahh it's an extremely bad gun

[last ocean]

monarch is currently dev 26

[last ocean]

shotgun pellets?

[undone plover]

So dev 30 soonish I guess
If u cant wait nelson would be decent option

[exotic sorrel]

Save your cubes for the upcoming UR ships

[undone plover]

Nothing has changed in opsi for years
We only get the odd file zone added but that is it

[last ocean]

also, still not done warspite, a couple more nodes so my battleship upgrade items are already spoken for

[wind hazel]

wdym not done

[undone plover]

Well do u need another BB atm?

[exotic sorrel]

Do you mean retrofitting?

[last ocean]

last couple reload / fp retro items

[wind hazel]

like you skipped some of the retrofit trees?

just do those anytime, your warspite is practically done with modernization and augment

[exotic sorrel]

How come I never realized she has a lot of AA nodes

[last ocean]

normally I just use hood for support gunnery at this point, but some maps demand BB specifically

[exotic sorrel]

Not even a HIT node or more FP smh

[undone plover]

Just wait monarch at this point imo

[exotic sorrel]

I'd agree too, Hood is kind of squishy in my experience

[undone plover]

I think she has very high ACC anyway

Corgi I mean

[tender lotus]

I see

[rustic mango]

Does anyone have some updated fleet comps for clearing chapter 15?

[last ocean]

question then becomes: do I stick with pushing resources to Warspite, or should I just start now working on San Diego?

[undone plover]

/guide check sushi’s site it has guides for the later chapters

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Guides to Azur Lane

If you're not sure where to start or how to optimize something, try checking these out!
🔹 English Community Guide Compendium by samheart564
🔹 Campaign Progression Guide by cheeky1467

Contains a list of guides about key Azur Lane gameplay mechanics, including:

• Newbie Tips
• Common Resource Guide
• Research Guide
  and more!

If you are an older player aiming to push endgame content, you can check these out instead!
🔹 META Chronicles by pilica12
🔹 Suchiguma Azur Lane Guides by suchiguma

Contains a list of endgame oriented guides and deeper dives into gameplay mechanics, including:

• Chapter 14 and 15
• Challenge Mode
  and more!

Here are some other useful commands:
Use /tierlist and /equip for a ship and equipment tier lists
Use /tags for a full list of things I can help you with

[undone plover]

Which one will help you more?
Also u can probably work on both at the same time

[last ocean]

determines which hard modes I do for retro items

[undone plover]

But also make sure you have 2 fleets to push before u do these expensive retros

Probably wont matter tbh
Get sandy her augment and she is fine for now

Which chapter are u in?

Do u have 2 fleets?
That is more important

[last ocean]

current setup: the 2nd carriers are just because those were what I had levelled

mid ch. 11 atm

lex is in first fleet because I diverted unicorn for a more dedicated mob fleet startup

[undone plover]

Yeah u need another BB
I see why u were asking

[last ocean]

yeah, my main fleet options are lacking atm

[undone plover]

Well put hood mob and warspite boss flag at least

The bunnies are not doing much i will be honest

[last ocean]

the bunnies aren't even retro lol

[undone plover]

What other carriers do u have?

[undone plover]

Aquila or get independence from core shop if u have spare data

[small kraken]

What's good for sub composition

[undone plover]

Save gold bulins for aquila

[last ocean]

archerfish from what I remember

[small kraken]

and then and then

[last ocean]

decent base for your wolfpack for another option

[undone plover]

Wait for CN anni
We might get a UR sub
From what u have 96 101 and 47 are very good

[wind hazel]

you're lacking archerfish's partners. go with 96 101 81 if you really want a proper sub team

[last ocean]

still hoping for UR Type XXI sub

[small kraken]

What's another, 1 squad done

[wind hazel]

[undone plover]

1 squad is enough until ch16

[last ocean]

you can use more than 1 sub squad?

[north gorge]

you don't really have a second cohesive sub comp there I don't think

there's 2 sub fleet slots but until ch16 you can only use one at a time anyway

[small kraken]

sadge

[north gorge]

did you miss flasher during the rerun?

[small kraken]

Is royal fortune good

[north gorge]

no, well only if you want to overinvest in order to cheese the sub raid weekly

[undone plover]

All tempesta subs are pretty cope

[small kraken]

I have no idea what'z that

[last ocean]

Independence is a CVL like Unicorn, right? Also, would unicorn be a good one for preloaded BF-109G? Or should that be on something else?

[north gorge]

iirc they're both CVLs but definitely aren't alike other than that

[last ocean]

just investigating - 2x planes and 1x AA is something to consider, faster airstrikes rather than harder

[undone plover]

Gear depends on enemy and ship requirement very occassionally

Check tierlist or quick gear guide

[ivory pawn]

Uni will almost always prefer a regular fighter over a rocket fighter, so no BF-109G for her.

[last ocean]

huh, figured the AA made up for the lack of intercept

[undone plover]

There hasnt been a strategy to give uni faster planes for more heals that I know of
Just stagger the backline so they dont hit enemy together and overkill

[undone plover]

Planes like flapjack have interception strikes
So separate cooldown to send planes that do only AA
That is better than any AA bf109 does afaik

It is automated but u can see it if u pay attention
Wyvern and breguet also do this in TB slot

They also have the benefit of doing the best surface damage

Only reason u would use bf109 on uni is for opsi I think since AA does not matter much there

[last ocean]

I don't have any of the 1000 bomb fighters yet, sadly

[undone plover]

Well purple version 500lb ones work for now

Like F4u corsair

[last ocean]

Enterprise using my pirate squad

[undone plover]

Normal f4u fine
The purple one
Honestly just check the tierlist imo
It explains it all very well

[last ocean]

pulled like 5x Seafang for my base fighters on other carriers

[undone plover]

Seafang is fine
But later u want flapjacks for ch15

So get working on opsi

[last ocean]

what level of opsi do I need for the yellow parts consistently?

[undone plover]

U cant rly target farm in opsi
Just clear everything and buy out the shops

[last ocean]

find it kinda funny though that the IB fighters alternate between intercept only and no intercept at all

[undone plover]

Azure lane be weird

[weary edge]

which lesser of 5 evils should i choose here

[north gorge]

shortest one

either overall or of the series you want

[weary edge]

thx

[golden moth]

Thank you shikikan hoho big help

[rustic mango]

Anyway tips on how i can improve this mob fleet for chapter 15?

[woven star]

Imo low dmg. Better swap SanD or Eldridge if vanguard can tank enough

[rustic mango]

i tried 6 different fleet comps from people and none of them work

[woven star]

Kurumi and Eldridge have nice tanking but low dmg. Guam instead of Kurumi?

[viscid swift]

What gear are you using?

[rustic mango]

hold on let me check

[viscid swift]

And this fails where exactly?

[rustic mango]

15-3

2 mob fights in and there wiped out

[viscid swift]

Well first off, get Cowpens to 100 affinity and her skills maxed.

Second, are you taking out the super CV nodes first.

Third, what are you running for the support fleet.

[viscid swift]

Yeah, that wouldn't be helping matters.

https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-15

You might wanna give this a read.

[rustic mango]

Something like this then?

[viscid swift]

Yes, if Lexington 2 is MLB and get them to level 120.

[rustic mango]

yeah lexington 2 is MLB

[undone plover]

Who dies? Van? Or main?

[rustic mango]

main

[undone plover]

Planes? Or BB shells?

What kills them?

[rustic mango]

planes

[undone plover]

Give the lion AA to sandy
Sandy AA to eldridge
And change uni to staag

[rustic mango]

i dont have a ton of rainbow AA gear

[undone plover]

Staag for lion and uni
Then shuffle the rest

And do the things cheeky mentioned

[strange flame]

new UR is at the end of this month right? so i should just save rainbow bulins?

[undone plover]

Who is on fleet 2? Are u hitting AS+?

[rustic mango]

my fleet 2 is a mess

[undone plover]

Thursday after 15th most likely and yes save

[ivory pawn]

More like in a week or so.

[undone plover]

Change helena
Otherwise looks fine

And use submarines on super CV node

[rustic mango]

who i put instead of helena?

[undone plover]

Check tierlist for options

[strange flame]

aight ill save thanks for advice

[undone plover]

Shimanto good option

[rustic mango]

not laffey 2?

[undone plover]

Laff2 better on mob but can work

Can try aquila musashi mob and cowpens lion boss fleet

[undone plover]

Do u have z52?

U know what make a thread
Show me your dock
There is no way u should fail

Filter vanguard and main
And post your first 10 lines of dock

[rustic mango]

I have every ship except 3

[rustic mango]

filter how?

[undone plover]

In dock at the top
But if u have everything np I will post sth tell me what u dont have

Ch15 elp :murmlove:

[viscid swift]

Does beg the question of what the other 5 fleets that failed were.

https://azur-lane-regal.suchiguma.com/

Also just gonna leave this here.

[rustic mango]

Vanguard 9 lines

[viscid swift]

Sigh.

[undone plover]

Join the thread

[rustic mango]

Dont wanna talk about those below lines for main

[viscid swift]

Mob: Musashi, Cowpens, Aquila, Laffey 2, Z52, Eldridge

Boss: Lion, Independence, Unicorn, Guam, Shgimanto, San Diego

[rustic mango]

auto or manual?

[undone plover]

all my hard work

[viscid swift]

Auto of course.

[undone plover]

cheeky go in thread

[rustic mango]

your the first one to say auto

[viscid swift]

:insert no gif here:

[viscid swift]

We always do auto in this channel.

Have you manualed with all 6 of your previous fleets?

[rustic mango]

tried both manual and auto for all 6

I should also probably bother to level up the newer UR ships

Kinda stopped level up UR's after fritz and Z52 dropped

when you have been playing since 2019 you kinda stop caring about levelling up every ship

[undone plover]

your account is very good
just get more good gear and u can even do ch16 and level the stuff cheeky mentioned

check tierlist to decide who to invest in if u are not sure and just want good ships to level during downtime

anyway try cheeky's or my recommendation in the thread
both should work

[rustic mango]

These correct?

[viscid swift]

Yes.

[undone plover]

i would probably try after levelling cowpens skills

but up to you
also make sure your sub fleet is also geared properly and u use them correctly
check the website for tips

[rustic mango]

I only found out yesterday how good cowpens is

[undone plover]

yeah her dmg is nuts

[rustic mango]

last 2 years been playing on auto pilot

if it aint UR i dont look at it

[woven star]

Just in case Independence has augment if u miss that

[rustic mango]

i gave her the augment

I miss the days when shinano and NJ were the only UR's

[woven star]

No. There's no Musashi in that past

[weary edge]

when i stopped playing shinano didnt even come out yet 💔

and if i only have 1 wyvern, would it be better on cowpens or unicorn?

[undone plover]

cowpens
uni can use breguet

[weary edge]

because right now my mob main fleet is musashi unicorn and aquila, so im wondering if it’s better to have cowpens instead of unicorn there (w13)

[woven star]

Ppls said Cowpens better if you have a lot DDs in your vanguard. But I loved Unicorn for preheal

[weary edge]

i think my mob vanguard is eldridge bayard and shimanto

[woven star]

As for w13 it's not really metter. But Cowpens has more damage so you pass faster

[rustic mango]

Finally cleared it once

[regal flax]

what should i spend my op siren currency on?

[rustic mango]

rainbow prints

[woven star]

I wote for Unicorn. Bayard and Shimanto has almost same hp as Cowpens but Unicorn heal all vanguard. Unless Unicorn didn't heal backline. Only once per every battle in the beginning. Anyway better have both for later chapters

[undone plover]

gold plates rainbow stuff T2 ordnance reports
opsi T3 crate for mats

[hoary relic]

is it a bug cuz i used 3 high-effiency combat logistic plans on war archives but somehow it only consumed 3 data keys

[undone plover]

it only consumes 1 key per entry no matter if u use HECLP tickets or not

that is why it can be good to use those tickets in WA if u have a specific thing to farm there

[hoary relic]

sounds like a good way to get hvar

[undone plover]

good no but only method for now yes

[regal flax]

i only have the first port unlocked, can i even get those items?

[undone plover]

u need sth like 170-180 runs to get 1 HVAR

[undone plover]

try and finish the opsi story
check the available blue port shops every 3 days if this is your first opsi ever and they can show up

if u can clear everything then buy everything in those shops since if u buy sth bad u have a better chance to drop sth good next time shop is refilled

[hoary relic]

AD-1 is still unobtainable right?

[rustic mango]

Appearently I cleared that without giving laffey 2 a main gun... Whoops...

[undone plover]

smh flexing

[rustic mango]

i forgot

[undone plover]

but yeah this just shows u the power of your fleets

[rustic mango]

also forgot to give her torps

[nocturne glade]

mood

[undone plover]

also that AA 💀
Put that on backline

[rustic mango]

i was just checking your gear list

[unique moss]

Is there a way to get like a focused faction? Like if I wanted to get Iron Blood ships I'd do a mission to get Iron Blood ships

[sick kettle]

do you mean like war archives?

[unique moss]

I don't know, I want to get more Iron Blood Tech points to unlock Hindenburg but I have no clue how to get more Iron Blood ships

[ivory pawn]

War Archives > Divergent Chessboard for IB ships.

For more sources: https://azurlaneecgc.com/fleet_technology

[exotic sorrel]

Unlocking new iron blood ships, max limit breaking them, and leveling them to 120 gives tech points

[unique moss]

ty

[unique moss]

ty