gameplay-help

[flint arrow]

idk never used 3 cvs ever

[atomic abyss]

for w13H specifically, you really want 3 CVs

[viscid swift]

did you not read the Chapter 13 section of the progression guide

[flint arrow]

so then lion shinano amagi as boss?

[viscid swift]

sure

[deft kettle]

Is black rock shooter good for mobbing?

[flint arrow]

okay will give this a try, thanks 🙏

will have to catch up the levels on amagicv but should be doen with that soon

[woven star]

Just use parallel TB

[covert dagger]

In chapter 13 there is a lack of suicide boats so you don't really need a BB for their secondaries. Triple CV works just fine

[coral elk]

Moskva isn't a tank, is she?

[viscid swift]

she's one of the tankiest vanguards in the game

[coral elk]

Damn

[viscid swift]

yeah might wanna give that a look
https://azur-lane-regal.suchiguma.com/

[flint arrow]

by the way, any rough timeline for essex retro rerun?

[viscid swift]

August this year

[woven star]

@flint arrow what's about ur Shimanto? She quite well in 14H

[toxic crown]

Damn that’s a whopping 20 weeks away

[deft kettle]

ima ask again, is brs good for mobbing

[viscid swift]

mobbing where and compared to what

she's not terrible but nothing special either

[deft kettle]

Black rock shooter in campaign

[timid beacon]

August

[viscid swift]

where in the main campaign
https://azur-lane-regal.suchiguma.com/

[flint arrow]

i have her, max dev etc as well, just only level 100. if cheshire wont work i will raise her

[deft kettle]

10-4

[viscid swift]

decent option in 10-4

[timid beacon]

Don’t you say 12-1 is the best

[viscid swift]

though her performance takes a big hit if you don't have her unique augment

[timid beacon]

Or something for coin farming

[woven star]

I would swap her for Shimanto in some near future. Just say to know

[viscid swift]

I don't think they've reached 12-1 yet

[covert dagger]

Cheshire is fine for 13, Shimanto would be better in later chapters

[viscid swift]

kinda dubious in W13 hard mode

[covert dagger]

oh right we are talking hard mode here

[deft kettle]

would she be good for mobbing in events?

[viscid swift]

events are easy so yeah

[deft kettle]

okie

[covert dagger]

My event fleets are just Unicorn + 5 random ships to level them

[coral elk]

If you give those ships guns and they're 100+ level they probably can deal without Uni

[woven star]

Do you know for w12 safe no need unicorn? Depends ofc on lvl ships. But even without her at lvl 100 ships doable

[covert dagger]

true, im talking about level 70ish ships

that need a bit of a carry

[viscid swift]

I've run level 70 ships in W12 just fine

without Unicorn, obviously not a full fleet of them, but it works fine

[woven star]

Too lazy for good gear swapping. Lvl 100with shit gear fine too

[timid beacon]

Also what do people mean by W12 is it chapter 12?

[viscid swift]

yes

[covert dagger]

what im talking about is a 125 Unicorn and 5 random Elites and Rares at level 70. Once they get to 100 ish then drop the Unicorn and let them farm the rest themselves

[viscid swift]

world and chapter are used interchangeably here

[timid beacon]

Alright because I was confused and never really understood it and guessed it was chapter so it is

[timid beacon]

With the lowest threat level correct?

[viscid swift]

obviously

heck, recently I threw in my 0 LB Regensburg META at level 70 and she did just fine

[timid beacon]

Oh that’s nice I’ll keep that in kind when I reach W12

[viscid swift]

I'm also running cross fleets though

[timid beacon]

Oh yeah of course

[coral elk]

What are some good options to put in here? Though I don't have some of the new/er UR ships

[viscid swift]

Helena

[coral elk]

She's better in BB fleet?

[viscid swift]

typically yeah

[coral elk]

Hmm, then what do I do here?

[viscid swift]

Kazagumo is a must

[coral elk]

I'm assumin I need someone for the off tank position then?

[viscid swift]

yeah

[coral elk]

Uhh, Sirius? Or that wouldn't be enough?

[viscid swift]

sure

[tiny apex]

can u guys suggest a good video to fleet building ?

[coral elk]

Do I even bother with this for the 4th OpSi fleet?

[coral elk]

Actually I kinda do want to bother because Kron and Chkalov are oathed...

[viscid swift]

no

I might write a more extensive guide one day but for now I give a pretty rudimentary overview of fleets in here
https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/progression-guide/

[tiny apex]

is that a no in the mean that none is rly good or ur just better ?

[timid beacon]

Cheeky is just better

Trust

[viscid swift]

eh, I mean I would say mine is better but it's not really anything comprehensive

the issue with fleet building in AL is that even once you know roughly what ships do and how good they are

a lot of it is still just trial and error

like that's literally how we determine what are the best fleets to one shot metas

we theorycraft which ones we think are best then test them in game and make adjustments

[tiny apex]

understood

[coral elk]

Hmmm

I guess I can put here either Bellona or vanguard with personal damage

And now I have to think what gear each ship wants, mweh

[viscid swift]

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide

[timid beacon]

Thanks daddy

[glacial widget]

Hey qq, does high efficient logistics double ship rewards as well?

Like for the purpose of farming stage specific ship drops

[viscid swift]

you roll for ships twice

[mint sedge]

Hey, I get what you're saying — even when you already know roughly what each ship does, fleet building is still a lot of trial and error. Theorycrafting and then testing in-game is exactly how the best one-shot meta fleets get discovered.
I don't fully disagree, but in my experience the right gear makes a huge part of the work. With proper gearing you can run either a waifu-themed fleet or a pure meta one and still clear comfortably. For example, I play mostly with ships I really like (the looks and vibe), and I'm already clearing Chapter 15 while doing my second month of full Op Siren bosses, Defeat the metashowdown (2 XD) bosses in one try.
I've always felt that chasing pure OP in gachas becomes a race most people eventually quit, because tomorrow a new ship will powercreep what you just maxed out. That's why I prefer focusing on getting the right gear types first — it lets you actually enjoy the ships you love without feeling stuck.
So far this way of playing has worked for me and has allowed me to advance what I consider the norm in my 6-7 months of playing

[viscid swift]

Good gearing is a given.

And you're right but you're missing the point of getting good ships together in the first place.

[glacial widget]

So it’s better for efficient farming right?

[viscid swift]

People more often than not tend to slack on Operation Siren and Research as a whole which means gear is often an issue so you do have to compensate by using better ships.

Good gear can also take months to accumulate.

And yes, you can get away with running a lot of non optimal fleets in late game content and still beat it, Suchi did a full IB clear of W15 on lethal.

But he was able to compensate for using sub par ships with gear, oaths, tech, cats, etc and even then he still had to manual and do a lot of resetting.

[viscid swift]

Not really, you're doubling your oil cost and morale spent

[viscid swift]

And frankly his account in those regards is better than 99.9% of the playerbase including my own

[glacial widget]

I’m just trying to make sure it’s the same as auto clearing 6 times, in half the time, I don’t want to miss out on ship drops

[sweet delta]

cheeky has higher CL HIT tech than I

[viscid swift]

yeah in that regards its the same

[sweet delta]

it is almost the same, you should indeed use it to save time

[viscid swift]

yeah but you have way better cats and more +13 gear than me

not to mention more oaths

[glacial widget]

By “almost”, What’s the difference?

[sweet delta]

1. you go below 120 morale faster, so slightly less ship exp
2. you may get the ship you want in "6" runs instead of 5 single runs, spending slightly more oil

[glacial widget]

Got it, thank you for explaining

I’m not getting relevant xp on 16-4 anyway 😂

[viscid swift]

Anyway, I don't think one should simply chase the meta either but I do firmly believe in a player being educated on the game and understanding what is good and to an extent why is good.

I also very firmly believe in setting asside personal preferences when tackling hard content because frankly, while you can in theory make almost anything work in all content, most players do not have anything close to the account strength to do that.

[mint sedge]

Yeah, I totally agree that most people slack on Op Siren and Research, so gear ends up being the bottleneck and you have to compensate with stronger ships a lot of the time. Good gear does take months to build up properly.

That was me until December, when someone shared this quick gear guide: https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide/

From there I started focusing on gear priorities (going for the "best" options I could realistically farm), and that's when I noticed a massive difference — no more feeling stuck, clears became way smoother. It's not super hard to get decent gear if you target the right stuff, and the guide gives solid tiers from best to fallback.

Btw I've seen people talk about perfect cats too, but I still don't fully get it lol. I clean their poop, feed them, pet them... and I have one stuck at level 28 for months with zero XP gain XD What am I missing?

[viscid swift]

well I presume you know what cats do?

[mint sedge]

50/50 I'm more of a dog person. XD

[viscid swift]

meowfficers I mean but anyway

they give stat boosts to your ships, mainly through talents, obviously not all talents are created equal with some being better than others

[mint sedge]

I've seen that his skills enhance the ships in your fleet

[viscid swift]

no

a perfect meowfficer would a be a cat with all the talents that you want

however it's a complete RNG fest if you can get all the talents you want, you can spend literal millions of coins buying cat boxes and rerolling cats with good starting talents to get a perfect cat

[mint sedge]

Translation error, his skills benefit your fleet, now I understand what "perfect" means, but why doesn't he level up?

[stark quiver]

Lvl 15 one shot 2 easy

[glossy granite]

Really dumb question but do u guys just replace entire teams when farming 12-4, i really need to rotate my ships especially URs cuz this is really bad 😅 😅 😅

[viscid swift]

you need to get use them by putting them in your fleet and grinding with them

[viscid swift]

very rarely considering I never have 6 ships reach level 120 at the same time

[glossy granite]

I have too many ships at lvl 100 cuz for some reason i cant bring myself to rotate

[viscid swift]

so you farm W12 with level 120 ships?

[mint sedge]

But this one's in my EU fleet, which I usually use for bosses and autofarming. (Tupid lazy cat)
Anyway, thanks again, it was a pleasure talking to you.

[glossy granite]

Been like that pretty much lmao, not too long ago i did rotate but it was mainly for Nakhimov so i put in Aquila and volga

Aswell ijn vanguards for shinmato

[viscid swift]

yeah, cat XP gain is just really slow

[viscid swift]

I would say if you're ever farming with a level 120/125 ship in w12

you're doing it wrong

[glossy granite]

Yeah i just realized it now.....

[viscid swift]

as soon as the ship reaches the level I need them at, they get rotated out

[glossy granite]

Maybe i think that if i dont use them i will get one shotted lmao

no idea why i only used my main main fleets

[glossy granite]

Is 12-4 really that free to the point u can use anything lol

[viscid swift]

I mean this sims can main tank all the mobs in 12-1 with this fleet

[viscid swift]

yes, I do have Musashi, Alsace, and Soyuz in boss fleet for cross fleets but most players will be using much better ships than I am these days

[glossy granite]

I still need to get that damn alsace

[viscid swift]

All the commons were ground up the old fashion way

[glossy granite]

As like a 3rd fleet?

Wait nvm

Man i need to rotate everything

No idea where to start lol

[viscid swift]

you coud start by getting all of your URs up

[glossy granite]

Oh shi and i need to go back and pick up a DR

Hakuryu, Brest or Napoli

since im done with Nakhimov

[glossy granite]

Wait im pretty close finishing napoli whilst doing pr8 anyways, besides Moskva and Tashkent any notable vanguards from Northern or Sardegna?

I have a bunch of SR bullins

[viscid swift]

they're all pretty much tech

[glossy granite]

Hmmm, what would u do for 3rd slot

cant decide lol

[viscid swift]

pick one of the cruisers, MLB them and start grinding

[glossy granite]

Alr, and am i fine just picking random main Urs for mob fleet? Like just putting in Soyuz, Nakhimov and Hakuhou

[viscid swift]

sure, just make sure they need levels

[idle dagger]

Kuybyshev, Ognevoy

[viscid swift]

frankly the fact your Lion isn't 125 already is astonishing

[glossy granite]

I told u, really bad at this 😅

[glossy granite]

Or i could do Lion soyuz and nakhimov

[viscid swift]

she's the single most broken ship in the game right now

[glossy granite]

Yes soyuz is less useable but shes waifu

[viscid swift]

sure

[glossy granite]

Only UR so far where i maxed for waifu lol

[coral elk]

For bosses, what planes do CV's want in non locked slots? Or just whatever best type of plane but to make sure it's synced?

[winter hare]

Currently working with this, any suggestions on fleet comp?

and i just randomly pulled Shinano

[viscid swift]

might wanna give that a read
https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/progression-guide/

[winter hare]

hmm. okay

[glossy granite]

I think im tweaking as always, when u farm 12-4 do u keep the boss fleet the same or u rotate it aswell

[winter hare]

fuck, i need more limit break for 4 star SSRs

[viscid swift]

I keep the main fleet the same, the vanguards are also ships that need levels

[glossy granite]

Yeah man i am on something

cant comprehend what u just said 💀

[viscid swift]

this is the boss fleet

[coral elk]

Uhh, would this work in Harbiter fight? I'm getting very eepy

[glossy granite]

Ahhh so just the main ships u keep it but rest is all changed?

[viscid swift]

yes

[glossy granite]

Like the entire mob fleet and the vanguard fleet for boss

[viscid swift]

yes

[undone plover]

ideally nakhimov goes second
but this looks good
do u have moskva in van/x-fleet?

[coral elk]

Yea, though who should go first then? Or it doesn't matter much and just do it to whoever I can do it easiest?

[sweet delta]

nakhi first is sometimes fine (with Saiun on the third CV), but in this case it is very dangerous because the last CV has the slowest TBs (VIT2)

[undone plover]

like sushi said it can work
see if amagi TB land
if not maybe time to change gear around

[winter hare]

for my vangaurd with who i have, which team would work better?

Prinz adalbert, bremerton, shimakaze

OR

prinz adalbert, shimakaze, cleopatra

i have a very shitty, and new account so im working with what i got

[undone plover]

btw did moskva xfleet activate nakhimov permanently?
i remember sth like that but not sure now after re-reading her skill

[winter hare]

for reference, sushi this is what im working with

plus a shinano

[sweet delta]

Neither is good, as the guide says you must not use the 4 star UR

To clear your hardest content now, your best fleet would be Adalbert, Cleopatra, and SantaFe/Tallinn/Malin. But you should really level up purple ships like Helena

[winter hare]

aint got helena currently, need to find where to get er

[sweet delta]

look at the Newbie Tips linked in the guide

[coral elk]

I guess this should be best then

[winter hare]

i forgot how much this game can be when getting back into it

god i wish this was on PC

[knotty jolt]

majority of the people here play on an emulator

[winter hare]

bluestacks i assume?

[knotty jolt]

No that is long dead

They've transistion to mumu

[sweet delta]

have you added your CV cats and CV RLD tech? 23 seconds is too slow for 4 strikes in typical 90s opsi battles

you',ll wan't under 21.5s

[winter hare]

what should i use emulator wise?

[knotty jolt]

Mumuplayer is basically endorsed by azur lane so that

[coral elk]

I didn't, wouldn't it not make much of a difference for the purpose of syncing it since tech and cat reload would reduce the cd for all of them?

[sweet delta]

it would not make a big difference, but it has the potential to. Because each CV has a different base RLD, a flat addition like cat talents could change their airstrike order

[winter hare]

ive seen it for like 5 mins, this shit is So nice

[knotty jolt]

indeed

[winter hare]

pc runs linux already ( cuz fuck windows ) , and its running hella smooth

[noble pawn]

Source?

[wind hazel]

https://t.bilibili.com/1147646722179072001?spm_id_from=333.1387.list.card_time.click

[strong tartan]

they are silencing us

[wind hazel]

lol

[noble pawn]

It's captcha check it will load I just got that too

[noble pawn]

Damn that's nice

[flat wraith]

there was an item, I can't find now, that allows sub fleet to be called outside range once per sortie
does anyone remember the name?

[viscid swift]

it's a skill not an item

[sweet delta]

there is no such item, it is a skill on submarines like I-404, da Vinci, Baracca, and U-522

[flat wraith]

so I just remembered wrong, thank you. sadly no better farming affinity for subs past 90

[late flame]

12-1. smaller map

[viscid swift]

another reason why 12-1 is best

[flat wraith]

I just auto call during stage sortie, it just more random when its called without one guarantee chance.

[crude jetty]

Will the LA-9 prints rotate out of the proto store?

[viscid swift]

no

[glacial widget]

12-4 is better for gold tho right

[viscid swift]

yeah but not by much

[winter hare]

So my current gear is pretty shitty…

What zones should i go to acquire better purple gear?

[viscid swift]

you don't farm for gear prints from main campaign stages

just keep grinding and opening tech boxes

[soft raft]

Holy fuck no matter what I do Z52 still has two stacks
Why does this keep happening dawg

TRP and EVA stat I guess are what's being pinged?

[wind hazel]

boost the trp on the other ship

input everything correctly on lars calculator and check

[soft raft]

Gave WDP +13 QuadMag Kai instead of bluetorps and I think that fixes it
I ran out of attempts tho so I can't see if it actually works until next reset (and I also forgot to put in Fritz Rumey 💀)

[late flame]

tech, gear, oaths etc can really mess up the stats

[wind hazel]

you can try simulation

[soft raft]

Oh right that's a thing now

Yay that fucking worked, finally

[river junco]

Anyone have a screenshot of explorer's project identity endings stat requirements?

[tidal meteor]

Damn is there a RegenMETA comp that doesn't use WDP? I haven't fully raised her affection yet

[undone plover]

check here https://discord.com/channels/456397991847395339/1204845559790440488

[whole crypt]

affinity doesn't exactly affect her key function though just use her as you go if you at least have her leveled

[tidal meteor]

Issue is that my Z52 at max affinity still outdoes her in torp stat which means she gets two stacks of the debuff thingy

[viscid swift]

have you got an oxy torp on her?

[tidal meteor]

I do

[soft raft]

+13 Quadmag Kai?

[tidal meteor]

It's still not enough

[viscid swift]

did you try giving her a hammer?

[tidal meteor]

Oh I think I see the issue; my Z52 has the hammer, yeah

[exotic wren]

How many hvars are needed for USS anti light again? 5?

[ivory pawn]

Yes. 2 for each carrier + 1 for Kears.

[hollow gust]

bf109 for weaker slots on CVs are fine

[strange olive]

Lost all my progress cus if an account binding misunderstanding, tbh it's very upsetting my question is is it fixable?

[viscid swift]

Uhh, what do you mean by account binding misunderstanding

[winged willow]

Im thinking of skipping Champagne in favor of Hakuryuu

[wind hazel]

depending on what you have getting anchorage or agir might be higher priority

but most of the time getting hakuryu is better than getting champagne

in fact you should ask yourself why are you even getting champagne..

[soft raft]

Why did you even consider Champagne in the first place

[hollow gust]

PR1 and PR2 BBs are so good too

[winged willow]

Last one to research in that priority.

[sweet delta]

💀 did you fully complete each season in order?

[winged willow]

Not really

I did get Odin and others because I needed them

[strong tartan]

trash vs garbage

[stark quiver]

What

[viscid swift]

what

[winged willow]

Im only up to pr3, but these are all I researched.

Except Izumo, Roon, Gascogne

[noble pawn]

Bro is grinding per season

[wind hazel]

get anchorage. i dont see any good tank other than neptune from your past ss

[noble pawn]

Like just, skip all to get Anchorage/Agir dude

[winged willow]

Not my fault they were strongest at that time

[noble pawn]

Fair enough

Welcome back

[wind hazel]

if you dont have hakuhou or amagi then hakuryu is good pick up for you

[sweet delta]

So how many blueprints do you have for seasons 5 through 8?

[winged willow]

Not many

[winged willow]

Amagi I think I have

[noble pawn]

U have Amagi CV?

[winged willow]

I think I actually missed CV version of her.

[wind hazel]

ye i dont mean the shitty amagi BC. that's trash and has no relevance

[winged willow]

Yep, no Amagi CV here

[knotty dome]

i'm going back to 11-3 for sendai, would 6 lvl ~100-110 random ships be ok or should i bring a healer carry?

[noble pawn]

Can't u settle with 3 lvl 120-125 maybe? To cut oil cost for farming I kinda forgot the max capped

[viscid swift]

just keep an eye on the burn damage and you'll be fine

[knotty dome]

thanks

[winged willow]

Welp, gonna grind for Hakuryuu. Now I just need to figure main fleet comp for it

[wind island]

shinano, amagi, whatever

[soft raft]

Just slap together three IJN Backliners and go grind W12

[wind hazel]

if your implacable is already maxed out you can pair with shinano

🫃🏼

[winged willow]

Current one is Shinano, Shouhou and Implacable

[turbid gyro]

If I were to throw $5 USD at the game, what would the the most effective thing to get?(Excluding Gems)

[noble pawn]

Commander boost lvl 70

[wind island]

forgot how much it costs but def effective

[turbid gyro]

already 83

are gems just the best bet

[wind island]

shouhounicorn in a bossing fleet

[noble pawn]

Doesn't really matter, you get 200 T2 EXP packs, 4 SSR bullins and 4 Elite bullins, and +6 EQ

[stark quiver]

it does matter, cuz the rewards at shit
you get it for the commander level to blitz through level gated content bruh

[sweet delta]

doubled gems is the best for gems, and gems are what you probably want

[turbid gyro]

Doubled gems?

is that just more gems separately bought?

[noble pawn]

He said excluding gems so I told him that. If I were him I'd just buy gems

[stark quiver]

i wouldnt spent 5 dollars on some farmable resources

[wind island]

first time you top up you get double the gem amounts

[noble pawn]

T2 EXP isn't farmable

[stark quiver]

t1s are and just for a little more time

[tender vortex]

Is the triple 460 not worth using anymore? I’m looking at the com guide and it’s never even recommended 💔

[viscid swift]

it was never used much

[soft raft]

It was extremely niche from the start by sheer virtue of the 30s reload alone

[stark quiver]

i use it

[tender vortex]

I suppose, I’ve been running it on musashi and I felt the raw damage kinda balanced it out

Esp on heavy armor bosses, is something like izumos gun worth swapping to?

[wind hazel]

it doesnt most of the time

[soft raft]

Even then it's not good on Musashi

[wind hazel]

daisen gun is better, use that

[soft raft]

in fact Musashi also has the lowest amount of RLD stat for a UR BB so that just makes Triple 460 even worse lol

[tender vortex]

I’m 2 blueprints off💔

[wind hazel]

then just use izumo. or better yet stop using musashi as heavy bosser

[noble pawn]

Long ass reload

[tender vortex]

Rodger that🫡

[hollow gust]

You used 460 only to sync with CV, there are ships that work better with CV, 460 is a dead ass gun

[stark quiver]

i used 460 to one shot yorktown meta

[thorn tartan]

What is a "bunny plushie" for?

I probably should have figured it out before getting 300 of them

[tender vortex]

You can give it to any of your ships in private quarters for affinity boosts

It progresses their “stories”

[thorn tartan]

hmm, i guess i should figure out how to give them then

[noble pawn]

I need 500 plushies to push through Lvl 15 Agir intimacy

[tender vortex]

Tap on them in any of the quarters and just select gift

[thorn tartan]

whos got the best stories?

[noble pawn]

Anchorage gives you a kiss at Lvl 13

Or 12 I forgor

[tender vortex]

Agir 4L

[thorn tartan]

hmmm, i'll find someone on the beach maybe

[noble pawn]

The beach is paid skin with gems. Only Sirius is free

[thorn tartan]

i'm at level 8 with anchorage....maybe she needs plushies....

I was doing about a million damage to the opsi meta ship but it seems like she has gotten tougher to beat. Now i'm only doing around 700k dmg.

i know the meta ship gets more hp as you unlock her, but does she get higher stats/abilities too?

[stark quiver]

she gets more ehp yes

[thorn tartan]

it seems like she is doing more dmg too

maybe that's me just getting to the end of the 2 min

i think it's a 2 min fight .....

[strange olive]

So on my new phone I linked my email to the progress on the new phone and I was like "oh this is how I can transfer my progress! Great" then I did the same on my old phone and then got hit with the tutorial on both

Sorry for being late on the explanation

[noble pawn]

Have u checked the server?

[strange olive]

Yeah it's little enterprise on both

[noble pawn]

Maybe go to #tech-support for this issue

[viscid swift]

so you bound your email on a new account you made on your new phone

[strange olive]

Yeah

Like a walnut that I am

[viscid swift]

did you make any purchases on your old account?

[strange olive]

Thank God no -

[viscid swift]

like with real money

well that ain't good

do you have your old account's UID and such

[strange olive]

I know the username and the guild I made and a couple characters that I own

[noble pawn]

Pretty sure customer support needs your UID and purchase history to recover your account

[strange olive]

So I officially am cooked-

[viscid swift]

Yes

[strange olive]

Dnfjdf akgnnskgxnkfnftj okay thanks anyway-

[crystal ore]

I open the gear lab now. Which one i should focus first?

[wind hazel]

wyvern

[wind island]

why is daisen gun not recommended for mobbing >ch.13?

[wind hazel]

but you need some sort of progress in operation siren before you can really craft anything there. maybe tenzan kai is the cheapest craft you can do before wyvern

[noble pawn]

Junkers D4

[crystal ore]

I always running out of oil. Where is a good place I can get more?

[wind hazel]

says who

[wind island]

flapjack and bf109g are also pretty good cheap options

[wind island]

it's not listed in the suchiguma gear guide fsr

[wind hazel]

what

[wind island]

for musashi only?

[wind hazel]

yes, you dont use daisen gun on anyone else

[wind island]

my question was more why not

[wind hazel]

because it's worse than other guns

musashi has skill that requires IJN gun that enhances her barrage, so she makes good use of it

[noble pawn]

I'd rather use champagne gun to ship other than musashi

[viscid swift]

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/gear-lab

[tender vortex]

What does CM stand for in the ship tier list

[crisp wraith]

Challenge mode

[tender vortex]

Thank you

[crisp wraith]

Rawr

[whole crypt]

is it possible to carry a 0lb lv90-ish RegensM through 14 or 15-1

[lyric stump]

I cant oneshot unless 4 helena radar which is like impossibles. Do we other comps? I tried william and z52 aurora. Still dont one shot.

[sweet delta]

then you have a gear or tech issue and should use BBs instead

[lyric stump]

In the doc doesnt bb more unstable? They recommend cv

[lyric stump]

Am max rld

[wind hazel]

cv is recommended if you can copy 1:1. which you cannot

[lyric stump]

I can but it just dont kill for me

[wind hazel]

that doesn't look like 1:1 to me at all

[pliant tiger]

I feel like this is just stupid or am I reading this wrong? Regen META fight just does kill one of your girls for being the strongest and that's it? (I honestly only really started reading this after the York META fight and that one gave a slight advantage)

[lyric stump]

I tried first with the z52 aurora willian but it jist wont kill

[wind hazel]

gear loadout?

[lyric stump]

1 to 1 only has 2 +13 hellcat on lex and the 406 +13

[wind hazel]

so not 1:1

[ivory pawn]

It's not that bad, just means don't double up on stacks on your vanguards. Just gotta balance the stats so that doesn't happen.

[lyric stump]

Cause i spent all my plane gold plate on 4 la9

[ivory pawn]

One stack is only a small boost, it's the second stack that's gonna kill ya.

[wind hazel]

yeah so you are missing 3 additional hvar, and you wonder why you cannot replicate

[whole crypt]

not necessarily strongest, just marked for highest in a particular stat, which is why you want to pick ships and gear to spread out the marks

[lyric stump]

2

[pliant tiger]

Ah, kk

[whole crypt]

even the top comp isn't overkilling by very much so anything that's not +13 and any missing fp/avi tech will add up

for what it's worth testing BB comps I had 5 kills out of 5 using a complete copy of stig's doc

what do 14-1 or 15-1 grind comps look like

[lyric stump]

Anyone tried lion rumey alsace?

[sweet delta]

what do 16-1 clearing rewards look like

[wind hazel]

raf uni/cow eldridge+3

[whole crypt]

stig I'll try 16-1 if you tell me a 0LB lv90 regeM will survive

[sweet delta]

a 0LB lv90 regeM will survive

[whole crypt]

is that all nodes or does boss it need a boss fleet

[wind hazel]

all

[whole crypt]

what ships

[sweet delta]

ping me when you find CN results because I think the guy who used to publish them got nuked 十五号线发车前 https://space.bilibili.com/442639198/dynamic

[whole crypt]

[lyric stump]

Better but not kill ima try plymoth

[wind hazel]

🫃🏼 worse gold, dogshit high end map

[umbral briar]

Does the ship level, gear used, and fleet composition affect the damage generated in cross fleet?

[wind hazel]

yes

[umbral briar]

gear used too?

[wind hazel]

somewhat, as some gear give higher fp for example, so barrage that scale with fp will be slightly affected

[lyric stump]

What happens if acc is the same on 2 ships in regen m battle?

[wind hazel]

If two ships tie for the highest in a stat, the boss tiebreaks by choosing the last ship (off-tank > sandwich > main tank > bottom > top > flag).

[umbral briar]

if skills? like ship on vg can buff the main fleet, that barrage will increased too?

[wind hazel]

idk

[whole crypt]

let me get it to safe first...

[rain timber]

Guys do I get a support barrage for Regensburg META once I reach level 15? Or is this just a no-barrage META?

[stark quiver]

copying 1:1 means the tech stats, not just reload and gear enhances

[real haven]

What config shall I use... for Regensburg...

[crisp wraith]

Not like you can choose each one has a fixed upper limit

[onyx flame]

support barrage only appear after like a month of the showdown has passed

[real haven]

Hmm... Alright, then I will just upgrade everything then...

[rain timber]

o7 for me then, I deal less than 10% the needed damage per battle, I ain't wasting my time farming that until they give me my barrage lol

[stark quiver]

you can just use 40 oil to two shot

[wind hazel]

just hit the assist button

i mean request for help

[lyric stump]

I MADE IT LETS GOOOOOOOO

[rain timber]

Hmmm I guess I need to optime time of day to request help lol
I tried it the other day and no one came to help me. 2 times :<

[wind hazel]

congrats

[lyric stump]

Cn comp is strong

[hot flare]

who is in priority for MLB after laffey II?

[onyx flame]

just spam it every 30mins

[stark quiver]

too much work

[wind hazel]

soyuz

i actually recommend to start focusing on soyuz instead of finishing laffey2

[stark quiver]

now they have two urs at lb2

[hot flare]

wait can I ask why, i thought its priority to always mlb first

[wind hazel]

laf2 is functional without her mlb. it's her skill that makes her good

[sweet delta]

laffii can tank fine without mlb

the problem is how do you know they didn't crop out their 10 level 125 MLB rainbow BBs

[wind hazel]

🫃🏼 i assume the rest is finished or they dont exist at all

[real haven]

soyuz/moskva

[hot flare]

well i dont have any of the new rainbow BBs

for reference:

[wind hazel]

soyuz is good

[sweet delta]

soyuz is the best choice for bulins

[stark quiver]

how long did it take you guys to farm for fujinami

[wind hazel]

less than 2 weeks

[sweet delta]

20 minutes

[wind hazel]

kill this guy

[sweet delta]

bruh i mean i spent 20 minutes farming for fujinami

combined with the fact that i don't have and never had fujinami, i strongly believe that i do not deserve to be killed

[stark quiver]

i have her skin but not her

[wind hazel]

you should be a lawyer

16-1 @sweet delta even though you can see this without ping i just wanna ping you

[sweet delta]

is it 355 oil

[wind hazel]

🫃🏼 stuck in 16-4 cant check

[real haven]

Hmm... who's next assuming I'm building a Soyuz-Nakhimov-Moskva fleet?

[wind hazel]

fritz usually is the 3rd pairing

[real haven]

Seems fair enough, when is the next Fritz rerun Label?

[wind hazel]

but just bear in mind that in the next 3 months we're facing a Light meta boss, and by the next UR we might have new toy to play with

so i wouldnt really emphasize on building around soyuz nakhimov pairings that rigidly

[real haven]

I already have an Amagi/Shin/Impla and a Lion/Alsace/Bismarck setup

[wind hazel]

holy 🔥

[real haven]

So I'm just building for the thrive of it

[wind hazel]

fritz was dec 2024 so more or less she gonna rerun early 2027

[real haven]

I have every singular banner/shop URs, so if they do not show up they are already at MLB 120/125

Only exception is Moskva, she is only 113 as of talking

[wind hazel]

how do you get lower

im getting 355

[sweet delta]

Did EN not get the fix

[wind hazel]

wtf we're bugged using more oil?

is it just visual or actually consuming 355

[real haven]

For what stage?

[wind hazel]

16-1

that's nearly 10% of my valentine contest prize 🥀

[sweet delta]

I have 365 for 16-1

[real haven]

Oh... This one hasn't even start doing Chapter 11...

[sweet delta]

10 for support subs

[wind hazel]

ah ok i removed my support subs, so 355

[sweet delta]

276 is 16-4 yes

I wonder which mobs they removed to make it 4 mobs only

[whole crypt]

yeh that was 16-4

I haven't done a run through it so no idea

[real haven]

12-4 is the best overall XP/coin grinding method right?

[whole crypt]

chances are it's calculating based on the minimum which is 4 mobs, but whether you actually do a 4 mob pathing is

12-4 is overall the most balanced

[real haven]

But here is a question: What is the best fleet config for it then?

Do I go 1-3 kind of fleet or a full fleet?

[onyx flame]

3:3 mob fleet kills everything

[whole crypt]

there's no deason to go anything less than full fleets when grinding with oil cap

[real haven]

Shall this suffice?

[wind hazel]

overkill

[whole crypt]

that's enough for ch15 or 16 yes

[real haven]

Ohh, I see, I haven't even touched chapter 11 so I do not know!

[sweet delta]

There was a patch to make it 4 mobs

[onyx flame]

are you grinding or unlocking?

[wind hazel]

you can honestly just use 2:1 to clear ch12 with those kind of UR

[sweet delta]

I'm interested in screenshots of the map before every battle , or also acceptable is a video that shows the map clearly (can just find a bilibili)

For both 16-3 and 16-4

[whole crypt]

busy safing 16-1

[wind hazel]

i'll ping you later. gonna get my full clear rewards later

[real haven]

Unlocking first, then grinding afterwards

[onyx flame]

yea wat mori say your fleets overkill for it
also wat i said early was for grinding

[real haven]

Fair enough, I need to get there to commence the XP grind for Plymouth, Nakhimov, Mecklenburg and Golden Leeuw

Which is why I was asking if a 3-1 (and subsequently 1-3) could work out, however I might as well go full 3-3 to level up some ships

If oil cap is there, and also, what is the cap may I ask?

[onyx flame]

317 per sortie

[real haven]

Excellent.

What is the expected payout if I set it to clear all?

[onyx flame]

https://suchiguma.github.io/deepresearch/auto-search-exp-and-coins/

[real haven]

Danke.

[wicked dove]

Is Albion better than graf zeppelin?

[whole crypt]

4

[sweet delta]

I see so they nudged the starting 2* recon right by 1 tile and removed the 3* spawn at G7

So it is the exact same 4 mobs every time

[whole crypt]

yeh that's the path it takes on autosearch

[sweet delta]

In most cases yes

[shell willow]

can oathed + max rld tech lion land all salvos with 2 shells and her gun in meta? assuming no jam

[real haven]

For 12-4 you only need 1 fleet right? Or should I use 2?

Since it seems like 12-4 and 12-1 isn't too harsh for 1 fleet

[onyx flame]

depends on your fleet strength tbh considering you got a full ur line up you can prob get away with just 1 fleet

[south ridge]

Question, how do aircraft fleet works on W15? I put my best CVs in there, but when entering battle the enemy planes keep coming without any help

[real haven]

Yeah, but assuming we yank it all out for say, 120 Cleopatra, 125 Belfast and 125 Trafalgar, will thaf still applies?

[whole crypt]

you can beat 12-4 with like lv105 ships if they're decent and properly geared

[real haven]

Same backline, however frontline is just pure British XP hoarders

[real haven]

Then I shall be fine yes?

[whole crypt]

should

[real haven]

Since they are all properly geared to be as top of the line as I can afford to get them

[shell willow]

your best CVs in general may not be the best for support fleet, they only use fighters to help shoot down enemy aircraft so you want CVs with as many fighter loadouts as possible, suchi's guide lists the top selection iirc

[onyx flame]

yea im grinding 12-4 with these suckers rn

[whole crypt]

just a reminder "12-4 is easy to grind" is on safe and clearing lethal is still kind of a different beast

[real haven]

Very interesting configuration, wish there are UR ship I could drag in for XP...

[real haven]

Still should be overkill enough I hope, considering my backline is such a regenerating slopfest.

And then there is Independence.

[whole crypt]

nah that's a reminder for folks who just straight out say 12-4 is easy to grind without context for clearing

[real haven]

In fact, I can also swap out Raffaello for Cowpens, just to maximise every single bit of healing that there is.

[onyx flame]

i mean they got like all the shiny urs clearing shouldnt be too much issue for them regardless tbh

[real haven]

Maybe I should actually, as Cowpens is only 100z

[wind hazel]

bruh just run raff unicorn z52 +crossfleets

[whole crypt]

if he uses all the shinies yes
if he swaps out for some weaker ships then the clearing part could turn sour

[real haven]

Frontline needs to be British for the sake of being British and Plymouth

[whole crypt]

I highly recommend not mixing up grinding and clearing

[real haven]

Will a level 100 Cowpens even survive?

[whole crypt]

you clear the map for like what, 4 times
you grind it well over 10 times for XP

[whole crypt]

should

[real haven]

For clearing it will be done properly

[wind hazel]

if you want proper just 3:3, forget all these bullshit

[whole crypt]

once you're down to safe it's kind of whatever, before safe then you'll need some padding

[wind hazel]

use lv125 ships, put shiny UR, insert unicorn in mob fleet, crush w12

[whole crypt]

shiny lv125 rainbows can probably one fleet steamroll 12-4 with no heal

[real haven]

3:3 of course, I like my safety.

[wind hazel]

dont halfass and mix here and there. you either do it properly, or you wanna minmax, pick one side. dont halfass with british wank

[whole crypt]

just clear it and get it to safe first, you can swap in weaker ships when you see there's headroom

[real haven]

Was asking for the configuration of Independence/Cowpens/Unicorn with Cleopatra/Trafalgar/Belfast mix

[wind hazel]

it sounds shit

[real haven]

Need the XP for Plymouth.

[whole crypt]

I mean it'll clear 12-4

you can grind 12-4 with less

[wind hazel]

dont bring PR grind in clearing

nnt already told you that, im telling you once again

[wind hazel]

use this to clear, this looks good

[whole crypt]

the bottom line is
you'll need multiple runs to clear 12-4
do it once with the shiniest you have
if it looks easy with plenty of headroom you can considering swapping a bit out
if it still clears fine then you can swap more
by the time you get to safe you can use almost whatever

but don't try to fit random XP shit in if you're not sure of the headroom

[real haven]

Not clearing, grinding, for clearing I will still use the Raffa/Amagi fleet

[real haven]

好的，谢谢你

[whole crypt]

hm can't survive boss

[wide needle]

On Meta Boss Dossier list which do I Attack?

[whole crypt]

any, dossier is perm and there's basically no hurry to get any of them

[woven star]

What's torp ppl used for WdP BBs gun synch? can't synch 2 strikes from 4

[whole crypt]

french quad from lab

coincidentally useful for light

[woven star]

[whole crypt]

could turn down the rld a bit or something never paid too much attention to that, quad mags are too slow off the top of my head

[crisp vigil]

Hey o would like a help , how to do this

[atomic abyss]

Use vanguard (Frontline ships) of that faction in battle

That's about it

[wraith pendant]

battle that rewards exp*

[atomic abyss]

Basically if it's not pvp it'll contribute to that

[woven star]

ok. anyway seems I little bit brake al calc or wdp has some weird interaction with it. one from BBs strikes disappeared when I pressed hide torps)

[exotic sorrel]

Who do I get after anchorage

Cuz I'm thinking of Plymouth

[onyx flame]

if you can start ply, do her then

[bleak olive]

im new guys any tips on who to rolls this banner

[sick kettle]

why is this sync chart lowkey looking like fl studio

[sick kettle]

1 light everyday

[whole crypt]

if you mean the coming event we don't have the stats, but chances are none of them and save for CN anniv in May

[sick kettle]

you dont roll for anyone when theres no event

[bleak olive]

so now im just try to get 1 light everyday and save my cubes until the anniversary right

tks guys

[kind olive]

any SS lineup recommendation for Opsi? I just maxed the UR SS (forgot her name)

and her gear as well pls

[ebon verge]

what's the general consensus on this torp?

[hollow gust]

Not worth it

[wind hazel]

how many cog chips from chapter 15?

[vital meadow]

https://imgur.com/gdR0v6Y what ship is this

[knotty jolt]

Lexington 2

[wind hazel]

lexington ii

[vital meadow]

https://imgur.com/kCxRIPS and this?

[knotty jolt]

Aurora

[flint arrow]

bruh vanguards level so slow

[elfin hollow]

is the private quarter unlocked at level 80 commander worth doing? can you invite ANY ship you have to the quarter? like new jersey and bemerton?

[wind hazel]

no the characters are fixed

[knotty jolt]

It's just a side thing nothing of real benefit

[wind hazel]

makes your pp happy

[knotty jolt]

Don't got one so that does not apply for me

[wind hazel]

[tulip tinsel]

nj is there but brem not

[elfin hollow]

do u have to own the ship to have private quarter?

[tulip tinsel]

no

currently ancho, sirius, noshiro , nj ,taihou and agir is in private dormss

[coral elk]

Is there a tech priority guide? Kind of haven't bothered with 120'ing ships besides the ones I like

[knotty jolt]

There is if you care but you can really do whatever.

[coral elk]

Well, I'd want to see it

[knotty jolt]

Idk where a list would be but for the rundown, BB and CV/CVL want hit and reload first and vanguards like cruisers want evasion

After that it's the standard offensive tech like firepower, aviation, etc

[coral elk]

I get that, ig I probably wanted to see a nice looking list, sorry

[knotty jolt]

There is a tracker tho for tech forget where tho that you can use to track which you've gotten and what you're missing

[untold sierra]

Good day everyone, regarding the Kearsage EXP quest, is 12.1 or 12.4 better?

And can a single-fleet sortie be completed without a unicorn?

[tulip tinsel]

BB/CV RLD>HIT>FP/AVI
vanguard is kinda whatever but iirc FP and EVA

[onyx flame]

doable but depends on your ships that is leveling plus crossfleet if any (assuming safe alr)

[knotty dome]

i have 5 pr5 guns, 4 pr6 guns, 6 pr7 plane, 3 pr8 gun, finished the ships to dev30, just to confirm it's back to pr5 until next research? do i need anything else?

[onyx flame]

seems like it

[knotty dome]

kk thanks

[untold sierra]

Do you think this fleet can do it, and if Napoli can't survive, which I don't think they will, I'll replace them with Prinz Eugen.

And how much does it increase 2 sorties with 12.4 high efficiency?

It was increasing by 6% at 12.1.

[wind hazel]

it's just double

[knotty jolt]

Seems doable albeit abit painful with those

[wind hazel]

i recommend doing 12-1 instead of 12-4 with those non mlb ships

also due to lacking AA

[trail dagger]

Chat, would this fleet work for all hard arbiter? or is it really gonna work only for the light armor one?

[untold sierra]

Thanks guys

[knotty jolt]

Probably only light and that's if its geared properly

[trail dagger]

aw, sad, for the vanguard. is willy d needed? is willy d stronger buffer than Kaza or sirius?

[knotty jolt]

probably stronger then sirius

[sick kettle]

I've got another 9 aircraft ur bp, do i get 3rd wyvern or just wait till skyraider become craftable for god knows when?

[knotty jolt]

Tho thinking on it might be better to just drop anchorage

[trail dagger]

Change it with willy d?

[knotty jolt]

ye

[trail dagger]

Will they survive?

[knotty jolt]

Probably

[wind hazel]

that fleet has zero slow as it is

it will have trouble killing any of the arbiter

[trail dagger]

i thought Lex II already handle that?

[wind hazel]

you need to activate her skill

[knotty jolt]

Personally was wondering if I shoulda brought up the fact you're missing an AA debuff for the stop

[wind hazel]

just the base slow isnt gonna be good

[trail dagger]

YK II would not activate it?

[wind hazel]

idk i dont read their skilsl tbh LOL

[trail dagger]

I guess i missunderstood some skill

[wind hazel]

still it's not gonna work well against Hermit

[knotty jolt]

I think she does i just don't know if the timings would allow for a full stop

[wind hazel]

nono you're right yk2 does debuff, it will freeze

wait does she

yes

[trail dagger]

Should be, but still havent tried their syncing, still leveling my YK II

[trail dagger]

Oh no

[knotty jolt]

I just trust the process

[wind hazel]

they can kill temperance, but i doubt it's good enough to kill strength, assuming vanguard survive, or hermit

[wraith pendant]

maybe just craft what you need, when you need it, and save until then ?

[trail dagger]

Yeah, i did try hard hermit, 40 bar left

that's also my 2nd fleet carrying me

[wind hazel]

invest in bb. less headache, and more versatile

[noble pawn]

Only light and med. Why Anchorage by the way?

Do you have Kearsarge?

[trail dagger]

I dont have anyone that can sub her, my vanguard is a mess

[trail dagger]

Not yet, still finishing my meck

[noble pawn]

Maybe change Enty to Lion if you have her?
For me this month arbiter is leaning towards BB fleet

[wind hazel]

cv can work fine, just not eagle

[trail dagger]

Sadly, i only have this UR

[wind hazel]

heavy is ijn specialty

good enough, just 2 shot them

warspite fdg vanguard

assuming you have proper AP guns lol

[noble pawn]

Don't forget AP gun lol

[wind hazel]

you should have at least 1 meck gun by now, and soyuz gun from event

only need to fork over a flandre or champagne as 3rd

[trail dagger]

yeah i use +13 meck and +13 Champagne

Still only did 50 bar

[wind hazel]

what vanguard did you use

[trail dagger]

this is my fleets

[noble pawn]

How long coining Plymouth?

[wind hazel]

well dont use non mlb meck. use that fdg

[trail dagger]

100 prints left

[trail dagger]

oh okay, i thought meck is better

[wind hazel]

she is, when equal dev

[noble pawn]

March is ending I guess you can get her maxed at 31 if you do aggressive coining

[trail dagger]

Maybe i can do that with 10 print a day

[flint arrow]

dorm doesnt give affinity right, just morale?

[noble pawn]

Fast morale recovery

[wind hazel]

it does give on first floor, but very very very little, and you need to click

[trail dagger]

Oh yeah about ancorage, i still dont her subs. Cause lex II need 4 EU in fleets right? willy D needed?

Oh nvm it only need 3, my bad

[wind hazel]

who pinged

[untold sierra]

I'm currently researching and farming Kearesge, and I have enough tech points for all ships except Sakura Royal. I can't decide which ship to farm. Would Brest, Admiral, Anchorage, or HMS be better? It should be an MLB and I should be able to unlock Cheshire.

And with a breast catch-up, it becomes 300 bp.

[slim condor]

I have completely fallen off of the meta showdown with real life. Has the Rise Meta fleet composition been decided on?

[knotty jolt]

Rise? do you mean Regen?

If so yes https://youtu.be/1bMmtRS6gIM check this vid by suchi for the fleet comps

[slim condor]

Yeah stupid fat fingers and autocorrected

[hard dock]

Do I prio rainbow or gold prototype gear parts in opsi shop

[knotty jolt]

If you're active you can literally buy out the whole shop by the end of the month but if you must, Rainbow for obvious reasons

[hard dock]

What reasons

[knotty jolt]

To make UR gear in the gear lab like wyverns

[elfin hollow]

How to access d4? Max seems to be d3 here for micro medley? I want to farm for Bremerton

[hard dock]

Prototype gear upgrade parts like this one, not those

[wind hazel]

D3 is the last map

[knotty jolt]

Then neither really you should get enough from just doing operation siren, plus they're only used on the final upgrade to +13

[hard dock]

okayy ty I'll buy them last

[wind hazel]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vRPJgxnXwC4r3Z8AlbzPUhHDXt0Dr7KP4TPriFnGafQrt1wE7Jb5AdRgfy8tXaLpTC-CtYAVMZgJE0g/pub

scroll down to shop priorities

[zenith stag]

How do I access war archive shops? or are we ejust locked out from gear from them?

[wind hazel]

most are already on gear lab

some havent been added to the game yet

[ashen saffron]

is San Diego Retrofit good?

[hard dock]

Fleet building help for OpSi Arbiter / Abyssals

Enough protocore to MLB Moskva if she's good

[fast dawn]

What gear is good for Hutten?

[ocean trout]

F6F Hellcat (HVAR equipped) whats an alternative to this?

[atomic abyss]

LA-9 or BF-109G

[atomic abyss]

Extremely

[tulip tinsel]

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide/

[ashen saffron]

👍

[hasty phoenix]

Any MLB recommendations? Or should i just save up for a UR rerun?

[slim condor]

I will be so glad when the rocketcat makes it to the gear shop. I am one short of perfect load out would it be a good idea to swap out a second Skywalker for one of the rocket cats on either Yorkie or Lexi?

Skyraider phone wrong franchise

[tulip tinsel]

prob lexy because her damage is just miles better but idk

[slim condor]

Yorkie's more a utility carrier

I need to level aroura and Willie D

[raw pivot]

Guys i beated 16-4 on its easiest

[turbid marsh]

congrat?

[raw pivot]

I mean 3 star

Now the question i wanna ask is how hard is it to 3 star 16-3

[turbid marsh]

on safe, not that hard.

[stark quiver]

Can you show the gearing right now

[raw pivot]

Oh nice

[onyx flame]

is that all your ur? + how many ur bulins do you have

[slim condor]

Will need to get to my tablet

[hasty phoenix]

The rest of my UR, just have 1 bulin for now

[flint arrow]

how do i get 100k cog chips

[onyx flame]

grind it in chp 12+

[flint arrow]

this shit barely drops gg

[viscid swift]

might wanna read that
https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vRMH0Yyv6vWH1apqWU7t0xV9xax73CELlCIC5g7Lw-pJnKpwDM4UBcTN22oqnfRKKq-3GQ6_0FbhcB8/pub

[viscid swift]

that's the neat part, you don't

[flint arrow]

are there any estimated droprates?

[stark quiver]

Like 50%
You get it or you don’t

You can probably find some used collected rates on bilibili

[turbid marsh]

thank you, 15-1

[hasty phoenix]

Dang, I regret skipping lion xd

[viscid swift]

16-1 now maybe possibly

[hasty phoenix]

Alr gonna do Guam ig

[turbid marsh]

that sounds a bit hard to level 3 useless frontliners no? did anyone try 15-1 vs 16-1 leveling?

[flint arrow]

is wiki wrong? it doesnt even list chips as drops there

[viscid swift]

it only got clearing mode last update

[flint arrow]

whats clearing mode

[stark quiver]

I do not have fujinami yet

[flint arrow]

just ended triple run of double rewards 12-4 and 0 chips

hell yeah

[knotty jolt]

Clearing mode is the auto function

[flint arrow]

oh auto search?

[knotty jolt]

Ye

[flint arrow]

ic

[stark quiver]

I won’t rely on farming campaign for cog chips

[onyx flame]

its the most passive source

[turbid marsh]

it is what it is, better than nothing XD just dont forget your daillies

[knotty jolt]

[stark quiver]

The most passive source is your guaranteed dailies

[viscid swift]

what do you even need 100k chips for

[stark quiver]

Awakening ships I’d assume

[knotty jolt]

100k is a lot tho

[turbid marsh]

yeah its like what, 50 120s

[stark quiver]

Only 50 💀

[flint arrow]

taking a break from this game was so bad

never gonna catch up

[knotty jolt]

I caught back up after a two and half year break

You can to, just takes time

[stark quiver]

I quit for 3 years and I’m basically fully caught up

[turbid marsh]

grind never stops

[knotty jolt]

One thing I love about azur lane is cause it's so old it still retains a lot of old gaming philosophy of if you put in the time and work, you are rewarded

[stark quiver]

I put in the work and I was not rewarded

[ocean trout]

533mm Improved Quadruple Magnetic Torpedo Mount alternative to this one?

[atomic abyss]

The one that doesn't have the "improved"

[flint arrow]

im missing like 70 ships and only 1 of them is in war archive gg...

but gotta do it, royal oak kinda cute

[mint elk]

I noticed some people managed to get Regensburg meta alr, but I've been grinding the daily attempts and the operation siren and am only like 60% of the way

is there some other way to get the data quicker

[flint arrow]

hmm i have her and did nothing special just the meta fights every day

[atomic abyss]

Did you do the daily 3x assistance

[onyx flame]

prob miss doing your support fights or not finishing your own fight

[exotic sorrel]

Then what's next after Plymouth... 🧍

[atomic abyss]

-# Also tbh just go at your own pace

[atomic abyss]

Worry about that after you get Plymouth

[mint elk]

oop i forgot about support fights

[hard dock]

[mint elk]

wait that's in guild right

[wraith pendant]

no just hit "boss list"

[mint elk]

where do i find support fights

[atomic abyss]

Because by the time you're fine with ply
You may have options that were not possible at the time

[turbid marsh]

i mean its too weak to go 15-1 in her current state anyways, not surviving at lv 110 so probably level her after mlb

[flint arrow]

"boss list" under the meta fight

[mint elk]

ok

[slim condor]

I KNOW I need to level this team, and please also note I do not have any of the rainbow auto 3inches. I’m not really expecting to one shot the boss, I’m perfectly happy with a two-shot

[sweet delta]

Do you have the CV RLD tech for 4 strikes from Yorkii?

[still merlin]

Is it normal to do 45~50% hp of the current META boss in 1 try ?

[sweet delta]

It is normal for you if it's normal for you

It's normal for various players to do between 0 and 100% inclusive, we can't say more than that

[still merlin]

I felt weaker than the usual META that I was able to do 75~80%

Is there any improvement that can be made in this comp?

[turbid marsh]

pretty sure thats kazegumo, get it out

[slim condor]

I’m still learning how to find stuff like that is that in the fleet technology section of the lab and how do I turn it on?

[strong tartan]

you won't be getting any value out of kazagumo since her ARA doesn't stack ontop of kearsarges

[still merlin]

Thought she's great for CV comp ?

[turbid marsh]

also you would want aurora instead of traf in that team. you don't need kazagumo because kear already does that

[soft raft]

Multiple Air Raid Assistance skills do not stack with eachother
So if you're running Kearsarge, Kazagumo is completely redundant

[still merlin]

I see, then should I try Fritz for Kear slot ?

[turbid marsh]

also, you want kear to be at the top, not middle. lex2 in the middle. kear procs z52 damage buff more

[still merlin]

Ah wait

You mean I should be choosing 1 of 2 - Kear or Kazu ?
In this case, Kazu shud be out ?

[onyx flame]

kear in the center, so that she doesnt get stiffed by her firing angle when the boss moves too far down

[turbid marsh]

hmmm i checked on cn, lion comps, lion goes in the middle, kear comps, kear goes on top for better z52 procs, at least thats what they recommend for better damage.

[onyx flame]

i mean you can try it at the top first, but i heard from some that sometimes she doesnt shoot cause the boss moves too far down

[still merlin]

I haven't tried William cz I haven't finished lvling her

[turbid marsh]

i mean i use lion comp, but i am not too sure if treyaous have lion

[still merlin]

Do you have any suggestion for Kazu slot ? (aside from William)

[turbid marsh]

i guess traf eld

[still merlin]

I have Lion but I was trying out this comp

[dawn spade]

what position should the DD be in? front? mid? or any?

[still merlin]

*Btw you can call me Trey for short

[strong tartan]

you can use aurora too I haven't done the fight yet so I don't know if eld is a must

[silk sphinx]

nope you don't need eldridge

[turbid marsh]

so probably just go for z52 aurora eld/traf depending on how you can survive at this point.

[silk sphinx]

you do need to spread out the Hunt stacks though

[strong tartan]

interesting

[still merlin]

The hunt stack can be manage off-sceen (I'll balance it myself)

[silk sphinx]

apparently basically with 1 stack you get 1.1x damage, but with 2 your ship takes 3.3 or so

[turbid marsh]

fronlines nowadays are ship specific

[silk sphinx]

and as soon as they die then boss gets buffed, so you can't let anyone die

DDs nowadays can be very tanky so a bit yeah, depends more on ship

[dawn spade]

really? but DDs all have pretty low hp* but with high evasion. but okay, lets say Eldridge or Laffey II

[silk sphinx]

hm, z52, felix, edridge, Laffey 2 are all examples of very tanky DDs

[still merlin]

I think Laffey II is banned (base on the boss's skill)

[silk sphinx]

they can main tank in various top content

[dawn spade]

yeah Laffey II works fine in the front for me but what would be optimal vs a boss or pvp? assuming you dont have a tank frontliner

my frontliners all have pretty low hp, but higher than DDs

[silk sphinx]

that's what i meant too, in opsi rn z52 is the main tank of my bb fleet, and I have everyone in the game

laffey 2 was my tank for w14-hard

but ultimately what's optimal really depends on content

this bears repeating, but in Azur Lane the general rule is, if it survives the content and deals optimal damage within that constraint then it's the best tank

so there are certain ships who might indeed more tanky, such as napoli, but if you don't need her then you can slot in a nother ship

and for laffey, she's highly focused on tanking/AA, so if you're doing an optimal damage setup then she doesn't fit in

[turbid marsh]

yeee which is why i said ship specific. tbh the newer UR dds are all not THAT squishy, even traf can do 3rd spot at times

[slim condor]

Hmmmm, I wonder…. Can you replace Z52 with Plymouth in this fleet or is it better to go with the DD….

[turbid marsh]

what is 'this fleet'

[urban mountain]

is there any reason not to delete mlb white rarity ships to make space

[timid beacon]

If you mlb and they are easy to get then I see no reason to not delete them I mean you only wanted the tech points no?

[frank plaza]

Yo is there a way to get a specific SR ship from build

[tulip tinsel]

no

[slim condor]

Er sorry the current META fleet I’m working with I’ve got Kearsarge, Lexi and Yorkie, Z52, Aroura and WIllie D currently I’m wondering if I can swap out Plymouth or if its just not worth it

[onyx flame]

Wait till wishing well

assuming your refering to perma banner

[turbid marsh]

plymouth not needed though

[frank plaza]

Thanks for the advice

[stark quiver]

I one shot with this

[turbid marsh]

4/5 with this

[flint arrow]

war archives dont have the event shops?

[atomic abyss]

never has never will

[flint arrow]

😭

[atomic abyss]

you're meant to get the stuff there in other ways

[glacial widget]

Any chance you could show the gear?

[stark quiver]

I’m gonna have to renhex mobile this

It might only work with my tech

[knotty jolt]

I personally fail the one shot with this setup cause ik I'm missing some reload tech can't fit in the fourth strike

[stark quiver]

What reload tech do you have

[shell willow]

how much dmg do i miss out on by not having these

[white agate]

they don't exist

[shell willow]

for me yeah 🥀

[glacial widget]

I’m at +21 rld for cv’s, how much do you need?

[undone plover]

Not enough to make or break a run probably

[stark quiver]

42-44

💀

[glacial widget]

Godamn

Lmao so do I just need to 120 all the purple cvs?

[whole crypt]

there's also CV RLD in USS and HMS faction tech, those cap out at lv7 for both factions

[glacial widget]

I should be good on faction tech since all of those are already lv 9, I believe all I need to do is focus on 120ing all the purples/blues here

[winter hare]

accounts a bit cooked, but yall have a fleet suggestion for me?

[glacial widget]

Is Yorktown considered a different ship than Yorktown II for fleet tech?

[winter hare]

so i got helena up to 85, once hes a bit higher what should i have her replace?

and should i prioritise leveling Shinano or Shimakaze?

[tulip tinsel]

not mlb= no

[winter hare]

mlb? im new, not aquanted with "slang" just yet

[tulip tinsel]

max limit break

[wraith pendant]

when you star up ships

ships are considered usable once they have reached max star, regardless of rarity

[winter hare]

ahhh, gotcha. ok

[wraith pendant]

and since ressources for staring up (limit breaking) are scarce (higher rarity = UR, very scarce), you wanna choose carefully which ships you invest into, especialy on a new account, so it doesn't set you back months

ressources for star up = bulins (purple, gold, rainbow)

what chapter you at ?

[winter hare]

9-1, but i cant continue due to level cap

account is lvl 63, needs 65

[wraith pendant]

well since I'm sure someone already pointed you to the beginner guide, you should follow it

[winter hare]

yep. im having to adjust becasue i did stuff differently, but im doing the best i can to steamroll to the 11's

[wraith pendant]

last thing you want to be doing is spreading your ressources thin over multiple ships, that will get you nowhere

[winter hare]

ive invested into 6 ships total i think

[wraith pendant]

Where's Unicorn ?

[winter hare]

lvl 4 for me, i havent touched her yet

[wraith pendant]

she should be your first leveling, MLB-ing, retrofiting, top most priority

she's the best healer, you're not getting anywhere meaningfull on a new account without her

[winter hare]

ahaha, i mean i got kinda far
ish

[wraith pendant]

Helena will be a solid pick forever, you should also invest in her. That leaves you with 2 vanguards and 2 main fleet ships to stick to until you can unlock better ones, and replace

[atomic abyss]

helena only really falls off once you have a million URs

[wraith pendant]

You got to 9-1, which is still early game. You're gonna want gear, so craft in gear lab, so Operation Siren, and you're not doing anything in Operation Siren without a healer with your roster, that's 100% sure

there's nothing to be gained to leveling different ships so you feel you're progressing, that game doesn't work like that

but if you stick to one solid enough fleet, and keep gathering ressources and spending on priority, within 2-3 months from now you'll have something solid to work from

that's also 100% sure

[winter hare]

so currently my fleet is

enterprise / peter stresser / ulrich Von hutten

helena / Cleopatra / Prinz adalbert

soon, ill replace enterprise with unicorn, and Peter stresser for Shinano

[winter hare]

found that out the hard way...

[wraith pendant]

are Ulrich and Shinano max limit broken

?

[winter hare]

ulrich is 3, shinano is 4

[wraith pendant]

so the answer is no, so they are dead weight right now

[sweet delta]

huge yikes considering ulrich was 3 stars just yesterday

[whole crypt]

UvH is less bad but Shinano is a confirmed drop

[wraith pendant]

you're better off fleeting a blue BB like Pennsylvania which you can MLB far easier than an UR ship not MLB

[winter hare]

this is what i have BB wise

[whole crypt]

I wouldn't necessarily say a 2LB UvH is worse than Penn

ah still 0LB

[sweet delta]

good

[whole crypt]

I'll probably take Colorado out of that but you'll need to LB still

[winter hare]

i have enough UR bulins to do a max LB UR as of right now

[wraith pendant]

but you should be saving them for when you pull an actual good UR

or you'll regret not having them available when that happens in 1-2 months from now, and you haven't gotten back 4 UR bulins, and have to wait to use a better UR then

[tulip tinsel]

uvh not worth the bulins

[winter hare]

i got stage 9-1 unlocked, what stage till then is good for gold, casue i need ALOT of it, and got none of it

[wraith pendant]

nothing before chapter 11

or rather, the highest stage you can farm before that

most common gold/exp farm with good oil ratio is 12-4

[whole crypt]

will RegeM survive 14-1 because she doesn't stay alive consistently in 16-1

[wraith pendant]

But, really, you should consider leveling Unicorn, leveling a cheapp but good enough BB (like Penny from guild shop); grab a good enough tank (like Portland, guild shop), both of which you can MLB faster through weekly purple bulins, add Enterprise as 3rd main fleet, and use whoever 2 other ships were advised you use for vanguard, then level that one fleet to 100 in chapter 9, then push higher chapters

[tulip tinsel]

colorado retro better imo

[whole crypt]

better than what
that Colorado isn't retrofitted and Unicorn is highest retrofit priority

[wraith pendant]

they're gonna have to retrofit Uni and Portland, I'm not sure they'll have the ressources to retro a 3rd, where Penny just does the job fine, even through OpSi story (did it recently with level 115-ish, starter fleet, worked a charm)

[whole crypt]

I'd still take Colorado over Penn

it's just purple bulins in the end

[wraith pendant]

sure, as long as they focus on one fleet

[sweet delta]

a 0LB UvH with twin 410 has about as much DPS as a MLB Penn with Mk6

[whole crypt]

levels considered UvH is still going to outdamage her replacements for a while

[sweet delta]

It would not be unadvisable to advise a new player who unadvisedly pulled perma for a UR BB to use that 0LB UR BB over Pennsylvania, but make sure to advise them to consider bulin usage carefully

I assume they have Unicorn and Independence to retrofit, so Colorado won't be better than a 0LB UvH anytime soon either

[whole crypt]

well it helps that UvH is lv100

[winter hare]

only retrofit i have rn is Helena, and long island

[soft raft]

Long Island

[spring wing]

When are we getting that new unryuu class carrier? Not sure what days updates happen on.

[viscid swift]

Next week

[soft raft]

Maint starts <t:1774508400:F>

[winter hare]

Ok, so i should be focusing the Colorado refit?

[soft raft]

Unicorn

[winter hare]

unicorn then colorado, then independance??

[spring wing]

I'd honestly say Independence before Colorado, she's just busted especially after her new augment.

[winter hare]

ok.

still getting a grasp on things rn... i got a maxxed out enterprise, would indep still trump it?

right now, i have CVs, but my BB is whats largely underperforming

[spring wing]

You'll need two fleets anyways. Enterprise is a bossing ship and Independence is a mob ship. Two different use cases but I'd say you'll get a lot more immediate value from Independence over Colorado since many BB's can do what Colorado can do but not many CVL's can do what Independence can do.

Send me a pic of your current BB's

[winter hare]

its bad, be ready

[soft raft]

*Note that a 2nd fleet isnt a thing you should be working on until at least W9

[soft raft]

Where did Pennsylvania go

[spring wing]

hmm. Warspite is too expensive of an investment for you early rn.

[soft raft]

She's too expensive to be worth it in general tbh
All of that and she's UVH/NJ tier meh

[spring wing]

True - she's really only used as a filler BB till you can get better UR's

Colorado is the best you have currently

[winter hare]

rip to UvH, i thought she was good

just need more of these little fuckers...

[hard dock]

She was

Any suggestions for Arbiter / Abyssal Fleets? + do I MLB Moskva

[winter hare]

i just realized i dont even have independance

[spring wing]

You can get her from the guild shop

[spring wing]

She would be your best BB but she's not limit broken and other UR ships should get your LB before her