gameplay-help

[forest palm]

look at mister fancy in his ivory tower

[viscid swift]

neither, either June or July

[forest palm]

PR series is June though

[whole crypt]

lab update should be announced with CN anniv then added in one of the later weeks, if same schedule as last year PR9 should be early Jul?

[tropic tusk]

Next is serin update right?

[remote mesa]

can you guys recommend me a northern parliament fleet build (im not good on builds)

[whole crypt]

serin?

[tropic tusk]

TB

[whole crypt]

yeh and some rerun

[tropic tusk]

And this time the one with whale tail or shark

[whole crypt]

FdSmol

[forest palm]

it's shark, the tail fins are | not -

[tropic tusk]

So a 3rd siren?

TB finally has a skin time to buy

[sweet delta]

Who cares about 16 clearing mode, we gaming with sirens on island

[forest palm]

normally advise against faction fleets of any kind, are you developing a ship from the Shipyard?

[remote mesa]

nah im new

sardegnan fleet would also be good

[wind hazel]

you wont have any good ships from those faction early game

[sweet delta]

It would not be good

[remote mesa]

yea i need to get newer ships to have option on searching those ships

not enough points

[wind hazel]

https://azurlaneecgc.com/newbie_tips/

[remote mesa]

im not that new im level 73 i just dont know much about the game

[tropic tusk]

Don't know if Ur being sarcastic or not but hell ya

[remote mesa]

i call it new cuz dont know everything

[wind hazel]

make up your mind, are you new or are you not new

[remote mesa]

uhh

[sweet delta]

I'm new too but the recommendation is to just read the guide which tells you faction fleets SUCK (emphasis not mine)

[remote mesa]

alr

[wind hazel]

im not new

[viscid swift]

might also wanna read that
https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/progression-guide/

[remote mesa]

k

[viscid swift]

I am also new

[glossy iron]

what's the best pr/dr1 ship to research?

[wind hazel]

monarch

[sweet delta]

Without any context, Saint Louis for most new players

[wind hazel]

you should research louis, mr new player

[remote mesa]

[wide needle]

Do we have Ship tier list for early to mid game (Noob)

[viscid swift]

No

[tropic tusk]

There is late game

[atomic abyss]

Tbh
Such a list would be pretty much pointless because most of what you will get at that point are not useful in the long run

And we'd have to list a LOT of shit ships

[tropic tusk]

This game isn't Ur typical 1team and rules the world kinda game

[viscid swift]

Would also be nearly impossible to maintain it to keep it up to date and we'd somehow have to factor in cost

[atomic abyss]

If I had to make a list

It would be

[tropic tusk]

Unicorn

[atomic abyss]

DON'T USE URs NOW

And then the beginner fleet

Also what is even in the beginner fleet would depend on when you start

Like what event

[tropic tusk]

Unicorn+5 random in early game

[atomic abyss]

Like starting on say hakuhou event means you could get oumi as your starter BB

[tropic tusk]

Does it work?

[atomic abyss]

It works but it's not optimal

A new player would want to grab at least Helena on top of that

And probably to raise their starter for DD requirements

Portland for CA

Also helps with sanrui grind

[ivory pawn]

And at that point might as well grab Pennsylvania and have the beginner fleet.

[stark quiver]

theres no ship in game named sanrui

[atomic abyss]

Sigh

[wide needle]

Am I in the right track?

[atomic abyss]

I'm trying to differentiate her from lewdis...

[atomic abyss]

No

[viscid swift]

Uh not really no

[atomic abyss]

^

[viscid swift]

Just follow the starter fleet

Ognevoy can replace your starter though

[wide needle]

But UR skill the only one killing bosses in event sortie im planning to reach 15k pts. and im 7.5k away

[timid beacon]

Perseus ever making a return?

[viscid swift]

She's in the permanent pool

[timid beacon]

Thanks cheeky your goated

[tropic tusk]

She's in special pool

[viscid swift]

Well I guess you can keep Soyuz as well, just be sure to limit break her asap

[tropic tusk]

Tho not recommend to pull her off event/wishing well

[wide needle]

yeah LB BULIN is at 15k pts. hehehe

But HOOD is ok right? or should i move bellorusiya in my 2nd fleet

[toxic crown]

Hood and belorossiya would provide benefits to fleet research when you MLB them and get them to 120

[viscid swift]

Don't use a 2nd fleet

For now anyways

[wide needle]

event need me to have 2nd fleet i cant beat boss with 0 ammo on main fleet

[viscid swift]

https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/progression-guide/

Also read that

[wide needle]

Im grinding event

[viscid swift]

The event uses the same mechanics and methodologies as the main campaign

It'll be over in barely 24 hours anyway

[wide needle]

Sad Im 7.5k away fro UR Bulin

Is it really hopeless😔

I can only beat A and B

[viscid swift]

Just accept it if you can't make it and keep moving forward

Either way, better to get a grasp of the game mechanics so you're better prepared for the next event

In about a week

[wide needle]

What skill of soyus should I prio?

[sweet delta]

making a new account so you can't even farm the event properly

[wide needle]

always RED right?

[wide needle]

NO, This is for my friends I let him play his account to get grasp of how things work and I a noob made him a starter account because I happen to get soyus hehehe

Ill give this to him anyway

[sweet delta]

who cares about ToS

[wide needle]

ToS?

[toxic crown]

isn’t that event just little fdg or is there a another event afterwards

[viscid swift]

Terms of service

[viscid swift]

Read my name

[wide needle]

Oh Is Little FDG good?

[toxic crown]

hm idk chief

[viscid swift]

It's already been announced by CN and JP

[wide needle]

When was Anniversary again? and what to choose in wishing well?

[toxic crown]

I saw I had to google it

UR probably

[solar lily]

is there anything worthwhile in the perma UR pity

[remote mesa]

the bb i use is basically is the 3 veneto class

[wide needle]

Anybody hear about IJN YAMATO?

[viscid swift]

No it won't

[solar lily]

they're adding another UR already?

[viscid swift]

No they're not

[solar lily]

thank god

[toxic crown]

like I would know since I’ve only been here for 3 months

[timid beacon]

Hope next event is good

[viscid swift]

Just some people being overzealous and uninformed

[solar lily]

give me UR bulins or give me death

anywho, is there anyone worth picking up in the permanent UR pity

[remote mesa]

i have 8 UR bulins havent made decision to use them on who tho

[viscid swift]

It's a small event with probably 3 new ships, no URs, probably all filler

[viscid swift]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vRMH0Yyv6vWH1apqWU7t0xV9xax73CELlCIC5g7Lw-pJnKpwDM4UBcTN22oqnfRKKq-3GQ6_0FbhcB8/pub

[viscid swift]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vRMH0Yyv6vWH1apqWU7t0xV9xax73CELlCIC5g7Lw-pJnKpwDM4UBcTN22oqnfRKKq-3GQ6_0FbhcB8/pub

[remote mesa]

i was planning on using bulins on soyuz and moskva

cuz of soyuz buffs on parliament ships

[solar lily]

biszwei in permanent pool soon??

oh damn, thats pretty nice actually

[remote mesa]

shes one of the ships im waiting for

[solar lily]

not a bad idea honestly

another option for moskva would be to pair her with Nakhimov

[remote mesa]

i like faction fleets and not mixed

[remote mesa]

yeaa abt that i still have a long way to get nakhimov

[wide needle]

What does CM means?

[strong tartan]

challenge mode

[wide needle]

so SP>EX>CM?

I mean if we talk about difficulty

[stark quiver]

CM is easy
SP is just a campaign stage basically
EX is easy if you play the easy mode

but id say
SP>EX easy> CM all modes > EX hard

[ivory sigil]

Huh so today is already the final day

[hollow gust]

There won’t be a maint right?, should just be event dissapearinv

[ivory sigil]

What can i do in 2 hours left of event after not playing for nearly a month?

[hollow gust]

Get Soyuz

[onyx flame]

Event isnt disappearing today its tmr

[stark quiver]

event ending this reset?

[hollow gust]

Lvl15 is available soon

[timid beacon]

Hope so I hate maintenance

[onyx flame]

there is gonna be maint tmr

[stark quiver]

im at lvl 7 😭

[hollow gust]

Not like you will oneshot, so doesn’t change anything

[cobalt gate]

isn't mainance tommorow ?

[stark quiver]

how hard is it to

[hollow gust]

Maxed out eagle with 5 +13 Hvar isn’t guaranteed oneshot

[stark quiver]

noob

[hollow gust]

Ur the scrub that’s too poor

[stark quiver]

good thing im not poor enough to get cucked by november strength
or was it tempy i forgot

[ivory sigil]

But speedrun the event in 1 day is possible??

[stark quiver]

maybe*

assuming you have enough oil and ships to bypass morale gate
and 2x loggers

[onyx flame]

i mean its a rerun, you can just snipe for 15k points and call it a day

[hollow gust]

The best thing is at 35k points

[stark quiver]

the best thing is the UR bulin that new players need

[onyx flame]

the gold plates at 35k is nice but the ur bulin is better

and its really only 15 plates, no point breaking your back with only 1 day left

[hollow gust]

15 universal means hundreds over the span of the year; which is worth dumping your oil for

[stark quiver]

its not , not right now in last day or two lmao

[onyx flame]

its 15 plates from 1 event, its not like im telling them to skip 35k points for all future reruns

[ivory sigil]

Forgot which one is better hindenberg or sóyuz?

[keen flower]

after i dev 30 ancho and fdg do i fs5 them or dev 30 something else

[ivory sigil]

Also i wanna ask
Was the previous event great? I saw a rainbow weapon there but iirc the UR last event is just a tank

[stark quiver]

dont do cube research

[onyx flame]

fs5 doesnt do much for ancho, its helps fdg in her mobbing potential so thats up to you unless you got higher prio dr to coin like ply

[mossy void]

Is the fleet builder site still the best or is there an upgraded version now

[hollow gust]

Renhex doesn't update his stuff anymore, Lars only option

[onyx flame]

there a fork of ren one now
https://twocanoftuna.github.io/AzurLaneFleet/

[mossy void]

Does Lars have a different link

[onyx flame]

https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/calculator/

[onyx flame]

the ur gun is the best ap ca gun,
moskva is a good tanks + dmg dealer and also allows nakhimov to be used without soyuz

[spark girder]

do crafted UR's like nakhi need bulins?

[remote mesa]

i think its about enhancement

[mint flint]

no, just blueprints

[onyx flame]

No shipyard ships need blueprints, older seasons (pr1-6/dr1-5) lets you buy the blueprints with daily discount. While newer seasons you have to get blueprints from research academy/blanks

[zinc hornet]

is SovSoy worth dropping cubes for? i have 329

[hollow gust]

She is , you should be guaranteed her if you have sufficient coin

[zinc hornet]

if it changes the answer at all, here are my URs (+ Moskva)

[sweet delta]

If you don't care about collabs
Worth to get soyuz for her crossfleet, then skip non-UR banners and save for may

[ivory sigil]

What if the mvp is the crossfleet then what would happen

[sweet delta]

There's no that what if

[atomic abyss]

Crossfleet damage is attributed to the flagship to begin with

[hallow mountain]

anyone explain which is better for Musashi for specific situations?

[lusty hill]

Why's the divine marksman skill not unlocked even though this gear is fully upgraded?

[atomic abyss]

Firstly why are you still using ECTL which is out of date for half a year

The short answer is
Mobbing use the twin 410 kai
If you're using her for opsi bossing or CM then you'd consider the daisen gun (which is not the gun shown in the pic)

Daisen gun

[sweet delta]

It uses some of the flagships buffs , but damage is not given to the flag for end screen or for mvp

[hallow mountain]

ok thx

[sweet delta]

Did you retrofit her

[atomic abyss]

Did you fully retrofit her

The skill is unlocked with the last node iirc

[lusty hill]

oh that's why

thx

[hollow gust]

@whole crypt ezzz

[whole crypt]

pretty much

vanguard HP gets low-ish but you usually do enough

[hollow gust]

Honestly Lion should be subbing out keary instead of Yorktown

Yorktown lets lexy run way slower and stronger setups

[whole crypt]

both work, different pros and cons, you just have to run traf if it's replacing YT

[hollow gust]

Have you bothered with BBs yet lol, cause I don’t have enough +13 HE guns

[whole crypt]

one sec just got back to my desk let me load it up

am I just copying stig's sheet or do you have something in mind

[hollow gust]

Idk

[whole crypt]

I mean the only realistic replacement is meck with alsace?

[sweet delta]

According to my research, Trafalgar sucks so kear should get kicked if using Lion

[whole crypt]

you going to update this one then?

[hollow gust]

So I’m more correct then your sheet

[whole crypt]

to be fair some of CN's earlier anti-light ideas were also replacing Yorktown for some reason

[hollow gust]

I can’t trust you guys anymore

First it’s amagi 2 getting replaced and now it’s yorky 2

[whole crypt]

stig would alsace do better than meck by any chance?

is this another one of those "replace YT II with Lion" things?

[sweet delta]

It's not my fault, I can't put every variation switching 1 ship at a time

[hollow gust]

Boooooooooooo

[whole crypt]

also is there a Jah version of that emote

[sweet delta]

It's also specific to this boss only that Aurora is a free slot without eHP concern

[whole crypt]

ehhhh I had Aurora go down a few times testing last night, she just went down in at a point where it didn't matter

[hollow gust]

Was it Keary or Lexy flag thats better?

[whole crypt]

I think overall kearsarge top procs 52 better

[hollow gust]

If we want the best possible damage out of Lexington

What a absolute monster tho

[whole crypt]

there's no specific buff for flag that improves putting Lex II there but putting kear up top gets 52 to go off more often

[sweet delta]

to buff lexii the most, it's best to not put kear top, so that z52 procs less and buffs the vanguard and kear less

[hollow gust]

what is this bug

My kearsarge refuses to fire

[sweet delta]

how is that a bufg

it is intended game behavior

[hollow gust]

What causes that?

[hollow gust]

Mf, back to flagship

[whole crypt]

so this was a lie too?

[sweet delta]

i think it's grey skill issue for the boss to be down for 9 whole seconds

[hollow gust]

Z52 debuffs is not fucking worth her main gun not firing cause the stupid boss is down there

[sweet delta]

the boss is in the middle at 0:43, if your kear is autoloading with max tech then it shouldn't happen

[hollow gust]

It's cause it happened twice that battle

I manually pressed the first salvo , then happened again

[stark quiver]

What’s max boss level today

[whole crypt]

14 but after completing that you can access t15 sim

[stark quiver]

Damn

[sweet delta]

actually lion kear lexii traf is pretty good

i guess we will put kear flag for 3% less avg kear dmg but no catastrophic failure

[hollow gust]

I'm 9/9 for Kear flag rn , Lexy is so sexy

Got her to crit for 700k

[whole crypt]

[hollow gust]

BBs suck

[whole crypt]

not surprising, swapped some 76s for FP guns and trying again

so it's possible to oneshot but I'm not feeling the same level of headroom as USS

[hollow gust]

I got the boss down to 18 bars before last shot

[whole crypt]

yeh well it should also probably be said I'm effectively on max tech besides 2 FP on Aurora? so most folks won't be getting the same level of consistency

[hollow gust]

What are you running for z52, mines so much worst then yours

[whole crypt]

copypasta stig's doc

[hollow gust]

Maybe biscuit buffs z52?

[whole crypt]

she does

[hollow gust]

Okay that's more sense

Cause there is no way my z52 is 40% weaker then yours

[whole crypt]

yes my Z52 numbers were also a bit lower when I was using CV last night

that's 4 one shots in a row with BBs if you have everything maxed but even if not I guess it's still okay with support barrage after the first month

[elfin hollow]

Do we have a spoiler about new event?

[whole crypt]

it is significantly cheaper and easier to gear than 5 +13 rocket cats

do we even have this month's new event announced yet?

[onyx flame]

other then that is sakura dont think we know anything else

[whole crypt]

probably SP event or some weird ass format again then, and probably DOA next month?

[sweet delta]

JP said sp

[whole crypt]

I obviously haven't gotten around to the notes today

[sweet delta]

Whatever that means

[whole crypt]

well if it's an SP event then it shouldn't stray too far from the usual SP1-5

[warm quarry]

Can anyone help me with building fleets?

[whole crypt]

ok so BB fleet is also fairly consistent if have maxed shit I guess but I'm not staying in this because it puts Lion out of PvP setup

what was interesting though is I'm not noticing any significant difference in vanguard durability even without screen clears

[whole crypt]

for what content

[warm quarry]

Operation siren

I have been collecting characters for a long time now. Have returned to the game. Now i want to try to get better weapons from lab.

[whole crypt]

start a thread and post screenshots of your dock

[hollow gust]

just spam URs

[warm quarry]

Posted thread in discord feedback forum

[onyx flame]

you can start a thread here, that channel is for feedback for this discord server

[zenith heron]

get back here, just do it here , and possibly clear the one you created there

[flint arrow]

Any fleet tips for 13-1 hm, my mob fleet struggles with 3* enemies

[hollow gust]

Well your fleet comp is not very good at all

[whole crypt]

for a start you're using the most fragile ship as tank
it could also be an AA problem, did you watch the fight to see what dies first

[remote mesa]

atleast its better than mine

[flint arrow]

I use kronstadt as tank, i move it before first fight

[whole crypt]

you know you can do that using the adjust tab instead of doing it everytime you sortie

[flint arrow]

Musashi died first, then kronstadt

[whole crypt]

then it's definitely an AA issue

since you're doing 13 hard, you should remember 13 itself is a plane hell?

[remote mesa]

Isn't kronstadt like outdated

[whole crypt]

she's still more than enough for a tank for a stage like this

if she's dying first:

• she's not geared correctly
• your fights are going too long = takes more damage

[remote mesa]

I would post my fleet here but I have a feeling I will get blackmailed on how horrible it is

[whole crypt]

trust me whatever you can post here we've seen worse

[remote mesa]

Are you sure

[whole crypt]

you have no idea the trauma some of us have been through trying to reteach the game from scratch to some people

[remote mesa]

Meet the cancer

[onyx flame]

ah the classic semi faction fleet

[whole crypt]

that's far from the worst we've seen yes

[whole crypt]

ok the gearing's not a wash so it's really just your fights draggging and not enough AA

granted that's not a good gun for her

[flint arrow]

Do i fix aa gear wise or by replacing some ship

[onyx flame]

doesnt kron want np gear of some kind

[whole crypt]

yes but it's less bad than the fact he's not using a CB gun

[whole crypt]

ideally both

[remote mesa]

I put best of my equips (I know they are horrible but this is all I got)

Don't ask abt skill level of z1 (leveled up her to 100 today)

I wanna make a full sardegna or northern fleet but yeah

[whole crypt]

well there's going to be a transition stage but you're going need to start picking better ships and getting better gear, wherever you're stuck now

it's usually going to take some time to level the ships you need

[remote mesa]

I know I have enough UR bulins to max limit break 2 ships

I wanna do northern fleet I have soyuz krons and moskva

[whole crypt]

it's not even UR bulins - I don't even know what this fleet is for

[remote mesa]

I do pve mostly so

[whole crypt]

most of us do because pvp is a joke

[flint arrow]

I crafted the b50 triple 305 for kron. Which ship would you replace? Helena?

[remote mesa]

I have these northern ships atm (Talinn was my second super rare when I started)

[cobalt gate]

probably want to do faction teams

[remote mesa]

Also gangut meta and merkuria

[cobalt gate]

which means you are missing admiral nyat

[whole crypt]

considering that's your mob fleet Helena is probably going to have to go, but the replacement needs to be something that has good AA
you probably need to start a thread with a couple more screenshots to see what we can put together

[cobalt gate]

which is main reason people use northan fleet

[remote mesa]

Not ready for that series yet

[whole crypt]

ok so... for a start please stop using faction fleets

[remote mesa]

I use them for buffs

[tropic tusk]

Still talking about faction fleet from the same guy?

[flint arrow]

Aa

[cobalt gate]

i mean it kinda works although basically just means include 1-2 more same faction ship most of the time

[whole crypt]

faction fleet is fine if you have the proper roles filled to define what the fleet is for

[remote mesa]

I care abt dmg mostly

[whole crypt]

like that fleet can do a boss node if it's properly geared

we all care about damage that's not the point

[remote mesa]

Ah

[shadow yarrow]

I dont see where gangut metas skill can shine compared to aug gangut
Because normal gangut basically has fastload for the first minute to help blow through mobs faster

[cobalt gate]

just as a notice, almost 95% of purple ships are not useful. ones without retrofit that are good is aurora, helena, then good with retrofit are missle destroyer and i think nelson?

[remote mesa]

I mean I use 2 retrofits

[cobalt gate]

even for doing faction

[shadow yarrow]

I know but im trying to compare ganguts
like gangut meta only gets the fast loading if she can wipe out three enemies but then realistically the battle ends before the second salvo can fire

[livid wyvern]

for proto shop if i have meck gun and 2 of the gold APs is the twin rainbow AP gun still more priority than ply gun?

[whole crypt]

gangut meta is a gold ship

[cobalt gate]

i mean old gangut you are still forced to use a bad gun?

[livid wyvern]

wondering which I should craft since I have enought to get a rainbow gear

[whole crypt]

a meta ship may or may not fill the same role as the original ship, or any useful role at all

if you're asking me they're both 🚮

[onyx flame]

457 is mainly used for mobbing in chp 13+, thou you can technically sub it with meck gun iirc

[shadow yarrow]

like if im just using gangut to get an event over with then her fast loading makes it quicker to deal with event trash

[whole crypt]

if you're locked to a BB slot I guess? you could also just use a high damage uptime vanguard to wipe

if you play a fair bit ultimately your biggest obstacle is morale

[remote mesa]

Abt the fleet you say don't use faction builds also not good gears what to do then

[whole crypt]

well you also didn't mention your current progression and what problems you're running into, so the best I can offer is please read: https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/progression-guide/#chapters-1-to-12 https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide/

[livid wyvern]

i see, would you say a first ply gun is more worth to craft then?

[onyx flame]

crafting from the gearlab or buying from the protocore shop? i would take the ply gun if you got ply to gear, but other than that idk tbh

[cobalt gate]

so are you building faction for fun as you completed progress you wanted or trying to progress to certain point thinking faction is best way? @remote mesa

[fast swallow]

I am trying to beat the event SP stage and keep dying to the 3rd spawn on the boss. Can someone help me figure out what to fix/focus on improving so I can beat it?

[remote mesa]

Faction is just fun to me

[livid wyvern]

from the protocore, my ply is at dev 26 but should be able to hit dev 30 soon

[onyx flame]

i would take the ply gun, if your planning to push campaign you can sub in with meckgun for your mobbing fleet, unless your using musashi then technically 457 holds even less value there

[cobalt gate]

@remote mesa ok so you want to build one based on currently what you have or like just the best pure northern fleet?

[remote mesa]

yep or sardegna

And with the ones I have

[untold sierra]

When will Bismarck Zwei be permanently added?

[onyx flame]

no clue, but soon ™

[solar lily]

in a few months

[cobalt gate]

so for backrow sovetsy, then you are stuck with the meh purples since i don't see anything else. frontline is mosk and ozory ogeny

[solar lily]

nothing specific yet though

[remote mesa]

Can i just send everything on dms

[untold sierra]

Oh, I hope it will be added soon.

[cobalt gate]

sure

[untold sierra]

like April

[solar lily]

middle of the year I'm assuming

at the latest probably around anniv

[last swift]

Азербайджан?!

[remote mesa]

yes

[hard dock]

Chat do I pull for Soyuz or save for like more useful reruns have everyone else here

[whole crypt]

I mean you have the cubes, coins will be a problem though

[hard dock]

I will grind

But is spending cubes worth

[whole crypt]

next thing you should be concerned with is probably DOA rerun, followed by CN anniv in late May

[hard dock]

Is that a colab

[whole crypt]

DOA yes

Soyuz is good but I don't know how much she is worth for you without knowing what your dock looks like

[hard dock]

I mean I have Bisco2, Alsace,. NJ for BB

[whole crypt]

she'll make a decent addition still, assuming you can afford to raise her

[hard dock]

Which event was the DoA one?

[whole crypt]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Vacation_Lane

[hoary relic]

just got soyuz, and alsace is going to rerun soon, who should i save bulins for?

[whole crypt]

Alsace isn't going to rerun soon enough

you're not going to worry about Alsace's bulins before you worry about the new UR's bulins

[hoary relic]

we have a new UR in may?

[hard dock]

Any reason I should be concerned with this

[whole crypt]

that's up to you, Honoka is unique in that she has a somewhat usable heal as a BB but nothing else from the collab is outstanding
we also don't know if they'll be adding new ships this round, in which case we also won't know their stats

[warm quarry]

Help with OPS

[hard dock]

Marie Rose UR retrofit

[hoary relic]

do we need to wait to be able to join a new guidl after leaving 1?

[whole crypt]

yes for 24 hours

[hoary relic]

f, my leader has gone to buy milk for 15 days

no officer so we cant replace him

[hard dock]

[whole crypt]

I think the next highest contribution player can usurp after however long the leader's been away but by the looks of that you might want to just find a new active guild

[hoary relic]

eh the highest contribution officer would replace as it says in game, but my dock is nearly fulled, do i lose the guild tech bonus if i leave?

[hard dock]

How come this AP gun has lower heavy mod than the normal one

Is the left one better for mobbing?

[whole crypt]

you keep anything you bought, you just can't buy higher if it's already equal to or higher than the public guild or your next guild

[whole crypt]

because drake gun is special and no longer relevant

[hard dock]

Okayy ty

How do you know if a DD needs barrage, damage or both

[inland shoal]

Reading her skills, analyzing her barrage pattern and damage, trial and error (Realistically use results from ppl that tested)

[hard dock]

Like the ectl tier list (that was discontinued )

[whole crypt]

or ask here

[inland shoal]

Well yeah. Though it has been controversial for quite a while anyway

[trim depot]

do i use the 76mm or 100kai for wdp

shld be the 76mm right

[solar lily]

DOA is what again

[eternal basalt]

Dead or Alive

[solar lily]

o

oot but does unzen have two preloaded torps like shima

[wraith pendant]

this Meta showdown is hell for a young account, got to run it 5 times to clear once, I'm not sure it's worth the oil tbh

[solar lily]

the regensburg meta one or

[eternal basalt]

I keep trying fleets, but it stays x3 or x2... what was the proposed fleet again

[wraith pendant]

yes this one

[whole crypt]

oil cost goes down as you repeat, it should cap out at 200 oil regardless of number of attempts

[solar lily]

the torpedo hell is kinda funny though

[whole crypt]

also keep spamming for assist

[whole crypt]

stig's doc is pinned

[eternal basalt]

(atleast x2 managed to get a lot more dmg)

[wraith pendant]

but is it worth 200 oil anyway ? I mean every single Meta unit seems to be just meh, I really wonder why I should bother with it ?

[solar lily]

then again, my fleet of mlb level 120+ URs and SRs sort of invalidate the fight

[solar lily]

idk its fun to try to fight em once in a while ig

[whole crypt]

you don't have to work on it now, it's just less troublesome to do it as an active season META than to clear it up in the dossier later

[solar lily]

I'm not the biggest proponent of META boats either

[whole crypt]

again, you could just keep spamming for assists

[solar lily]

speaking of, what meta ships are good

[whole crypt]

your first attempt costs nothing, just work from there

[wraith pendant]

but what's the gain with Meta units ? They don't add to faction points, they don't add bonus stats, they're just ... there. Or I'm missing something ?

[solar lily]

i know glorious could be decent, not sure about the rest

[whole crypt]

jintsuu meta is still usable in PvP and the odd torp comps

glorious is also pvp

[solar lily]

interesting

[inland shoal]

But they do add bonus stats?

[whole crypt]

but they do add bonus stats

[wraith pendant]

allright, thanks, I'll just snail my way through this one

[whole crypt]

they have fleet tech like all other regular ships, whether they have useful tech is a different issue

[solar lily]

the only thing meta doesnt add are non meta faction points

[eternal basalt]

Gives me x2/x1... I need to swap gear eh?

[whole crypt]

possibly, what vanguard are you using

[eternal basalt]

WDP/Traf/Z52

[whole crypt]

check their stats to see if anyone is sitting on 2 highest then tweak from there

I was using that too when I first went in and got them split up fine

and that was without even changing gear from what they had before

Aurora is better though which makes it slightly more convoluted

Aurora needs to be the highest ACC because there's no way she can match EVA or TRP with the DD options

[eternal basalt]

She is 120 and with crap gear

[muted wind]

admittedly, you can get the stat bonuses without max limit break, at least grab the first copy, you can skip the rest if you don't care for her

[whole crypt]

just cog+ and pack

well you get coords everyday from OSing anyway so just throw up 1 attempt then pray for assists

[eternal basalt]

Do I want to use my limited chips on that though

[muted wind]

i don't think 125 will help aurora get highest ACC, unless it is really that close. probably just need to adjust gear

[whole crypt]

it'll help a bit but yes you'll need to at least give her a 76mm, it's more for surviving the fight

[eternal basalt]

Okay, gave WDP a HIT gear, now it's 1/1/1

[woven star]

Yeah. WdP has less then 33 acc as Traf

Best way used al calc

[whole crypt]

funny how the gear I already had on them already had them on the right stat spread lol

[empty temple]

what should i do with 12000 oil?

[eternal basalt]

Spend it

[safe nexus]

my BB boss fleet for opsi has hood owari and nelson, when i finish building fdg who do i replace?

[safe nexus]

i would like them please i am rushing coin grind for the current banner :D

[eternal basalt]

And W16 grind starts tomorrow so great oilsink there

[safe nexus]

i finished 12-4 and haven't touched chapter 13 lol

[wind hazel]

hood

[woven star]

you can try this... trp Z52, ACC Traf, and AA WdP

[empty temple]

is there anything i should take notice of when playing this game?

[eternal basalt]

I already got a good enough setup now, thanks though

[wind hazel]

your ships morale, your available oil, using proper gear, have fun

[soft raft]

Care to elaborate? Because that list could potentially be very long if we're talking about the game as a whole

[whole crypt]

it's actually a fairly straightforward business you just have to be aware of the stat numbers and what gear to tweak them

[floral latch]

Got this rookie invitation thing from handbook. Pick between Shinano or Jersey

What is this actually? Which one should I pick????

[wind hazel]

free UR. pick shinano when you need her last duplicate to max limit break her. until then just keep the letter in your inventory

[floral latch]

Ahh I see, well I don't have her yet. I guess I'll keep the letter, how about Jersey tho?

[eternal basalt]

If it's your first copy just claim her. You can grind out her XP (even through just commission).

[floral latch]

I don't have any of the two sadly, like originals. Only UR I had is..

Musashi, Moskva, Soyuz and Hakuhou.

[eternal basalt]

You said you have the invitation?

[floral latch]

Yes I have the invitation but not yet use it

I don't even have the ship so that's why I ask, better use it or not

[wind hazel]

less useful than shinano

[floral latch]

Oh? I thought she did, specially since it seems like she is used a lot

[eternal basalt]

#gameplay-help message

[wind hazel]

she is very much not used anymore

[floral latch]

Oof, what's the cause?

[eternal basalt]

Powercreep

[floral latch]

Damn, I'm actually thought she is still effective, since I remember she appears a lot in my timeline either in X or Insta

[onyx flame]

she's still a ur bb, its just there quite a lot of better ur bb now as compared

[wind hazel]

people simp for her, that's all

she's near the bottom in term of UR BB performance

[floral latch]

Every time I heard the word honey, it's either Oversimplified or Jersey

[whole crypt]

NJ will still work for most of the game but the bulins you'll need for her are scarce and better spent on new, stronger URs

given that you won't be able to LB her quickly, she'll soon cease to be useful as you progress

[floral latch]

Currently I'm gonna buy extra 3 bulin from the shop to fully up my first ever gonna use UR, Soyuz. Will this be a worth the amount of cores and coins spend ?

I have one Soyuz dupe and original first get special bulin locked.

[eternal basalt]

Better wait for CN anni, it has 2 URs

[floral latch]

@wind hazel what's your counter argue?

[wind hazel]

what counter

[whole crypt]

you'll have 4 bulins by CN anniv anyway I'd say just max soyuz and let her carry you

[eternal basalt]

You need 8

[wind hazel]

dont listen to hassat, that's all

he is known for being wrong 80% of the time on this channel

[whole crypt]

you're assuming both URs if the will be two will be auto top slots

[eternal basalt]

When coming from nothing they'll likely will be

[whole crypt]

but he has something and it can help his progression greatly in the next 2 months leading up to the anniv

for what it's worth I doubt both new URs will be top priorities at the same time, should there be 2

[floral latch]

I'm currently just wanna get to 75 so I can continue the campaign

I have my ships rn but they won't be able to carry that long.

[wind hazel]

you can trust me, i dont give troll advice. mlb your soyuz

[eternal basalt]

Last year gave Liom and Trafalgar... CN anni is usually pretty good

[floral latch]

Escort handler : Taihou, Richie, Uni/Belfast, Sandy non retro, Nimi retro.

Boss : Centaur, Warspite retro, Enterprise/London retro, Portland, Helena

[floral latch]

Solid copy, proceeding with the Limit breaking.

[wind hazel]

move helena to boss

[floral latch]

Wait wait wait hang on lemme check it

I'm might make a typo

[whole crypt]

yes but there was also Alsace + Mog
and Hakuhou + 404

[eternal basalt]

That's JP anni (for the last 2)

[wind hazel]

bro who cares, a newbie isn't gonna invest in vanguard UR anytime soon

[floral latch]

There we go

All done.

[whole crypt]

yeh not saying Trafalgar isn't good but she's not like super high priority

if anything Z52 is a bigger boon, you could aruge that came with Rumey

[wind hazel]

like you give a newbie soyuz lion trafalgar, and 8 ur bulin, 99% gonna recommend soyuz and lion and not lion trafalgar

[atomic abyss]

There's nothing to argue about her coming with rumey, she flat out did

[whole crypt]

in the sense that was an event with 2 high-ish priority URs together

[atomic abyss]

What you could argue, is that she's a bigger grab than rumey

[whole crypt]

yep

[wind hazel]

[eternal basalt]

Just like Laffey with Guam

[whole crypt]

and Laffey is the higher priority of the two

like seriously if there was a problem with priorities it would be affording Alsace which should be coming soon after whatever's this year's anniv

[wind hazel]

dont look too far, just focus on this and next month with your UR, and plan accordingly

[whole crypt]

yep so just max soyuz, period

[late flame]

-# error period not found

[forest palm]

[eternal basalt]

This month sakura, next month DoA, next month CN anni

Also new cruise pass in April

[floral latch]

I just do Siren operation again, I barely touched it. I just unlocked Liverpool base and ability to had 4 fleet now. Thoughts? I'm using the same fleet composition there. But it seems like my escort fleet is capable enough of handling ones I met there, while my boss fleet is struggling. Seems like I have to thank Uni for her help

Only problem I had rn is those Ice glaze

I tried solve one myself, works once but on the next, I end up forced to use TB help

[ivory pawn]

If you don’t have four good fleets, just use as many good fleets as you have and fill the rest with whatever.

[eternal basalt]

Puzzles? They are a one-time thing

[late flame]

Also just mess around and let TB solve

[floral latch]

Ooh, ok

[hard dock]

Chat do I keep pulling for Soyuz? 50/200 Likely won't farm enough gold to hit pity

[late flame]

Save

[wind hazel]

how many cubes

[hard dock]

Bit less than 1k but

[eternal basalt]

Then do it, 1k is plenty

[ivory pawn]

I’m more concerned about how much coin can you get in ~24 hours.

[late flame]

You sure its 1k cube not 1k coin

[hard dock]

Yeah nott enough for pity

[wind hazel]

i'd go for it

[whole crypt]

I'm pretty sure I told you about the coins 3 hours ago

[ivory pawn]

Actually less. Do the daily triple at least, but I wouldn’t stress otherwise.

[wind hazel]

if you have lion alsace zwei then i wouldn't sweat too much if you didn't get soyuz

[hard dock]

Wait does Soyuz go to perma pool after?

[whole crypt]

not for another year

[hard dock]

Oh not 2 years?

[wind hazel]

but if you're missing all those top bb then maybe you wanna sweat a bit

[whole crypt]

run > 2 years > rerun > 1 year > archive

[hard dock]

Not really I'm missing vanguard

[wind hazel]

vanguard isnt top bb

[hard dock]

NJ Alsace Zwei

[eternal basalt]

Also Vanguard is permanent

[wind hazel]

got moskva?

then you can miss soyuz. just gamble a bit until your coin runs dry

[hard dock]

Vanguard like vanguard ships not Vanguard

[wind hazel]

what does vanguard ship have to do with top bb

[ember patrol]

are Kearsarge and Hindenburg coinable yet? If not when? (I'm just trying to obtain all of the DRs lol)

[hard dock]

Next year iirc we got DR5 coining in February?

[wind hazel]

january

i lied that's 2025

but yeah dev kinda forgot this year and it came a bit late. usually it's january

[hard dock]

next year

[eternal basalt]

~~But they ppromised july and december ~~

[wind hazel]

how's lv15 regeM? any luck?

[floral latch]

Me staring at the empty weekly mission list because I've done it all in one day by grinding the event

[twin bronze]

bitch got too much health

[wind hazel]

is it Helena time?

[woven star]

Btw this doesn't work somehow so I tried to figure out what's going on

[hard dock]

Hey does that ammo box always spawn in 12-4

Poggers

[eternal basalt]

#gameplay-help message

[whole crypt]

it could be tripping on a stat buff

but it shouldn't be hard to identify

[floral latch]

UR ships didn't follow usual limit break standard?? Like.. elite and SR needs 4 dupe or bulin, while UR only needs three???

[whole crypt]

they also need 4

[floral latch]

But my Soyuz only say I need- oohh I see it now, that tiny number indicator

[whole crypt]

just follow stig's sheet, I managed to oneshot with USS comp and BB comp

[wind hazel]

🫃🏼 i almost failed to kill lv13 because pvp gear

[eternal basalt]

The final limit break needs 2 bulins

[whole crypt]

which is why I'm sticking with USS, don't want to regear Lion

[woven star]

ok. what am I missing? Traf in middle, z52 as tank, WdP off-tank. z52 1 debuff as trp, Traff 2 debuffs... and 0 at WdP
wth? I even downgrade Traff AA

[eternal basalt]

Faction fleet bad, mkay

[wind hazel]

it was my lexii

[eternal basalt]

Why do you have an AA radar on, that's useless int the battle?

[whole crypt]

pvp isn't usually hard enough to need to change Lex II from catraidercat anyway

[ivory pawn]

It’s not AA, it’s HIT.

[woven star]

because even with radar Traff stealing AA debuf

[whole crypt]

there's no check for AA

[woven star]

I'm stupid . EVA, TRP, FP, AVI, ACC.... 5

[whole crypt]

is there any chance your Z52 is taking TRP then traf is taking EVA and ACC

reading

[woven star]

yeah... my mistake. somehow I thought it's AA

[whole crypt]

there we go

[wind hazel]

very pogger x1 x1 x1

[whole crypt]

supposedly aurora better than traf for this, so if you can shove a 76 on aurora and make her top acc that floats too

[floral latch]

Any tips to make Helena more tanky? I swear I think I saw someone PvP Helena is so tanky as hell

[next lotus]

maybe eagle union dmg control? idk

[wind hazel]

retrofit her, give eva aux, that's it

[muted wind]

yeah that just sounds like the eagle union dmg control gear

[floral latch]

Mine is retrofitted and still uses the same gear you share before

[wind hazel]

kum

[wind hazel]

then she's at her best

[rain vine]

was she sitting at 0 hp?
what other ships were in vanguard?

[floral latch]

I'm currently leveling up her SG radar skill, trying to max it up so she can use it more often

It's at level 8 rn

[late flame]

hmm barely cut it

[strange flame]

i have 3 rainbow bulins rn, and i was recommended porter, but i would just like some second opinions and also i really couldnt figure out what makes porter good for bossing according to the late game spread sheet

[wind hazel]

who told you porter? lol

[whole crypt]

porter is one of if not the best support ship for the USS setup... after you finish raising the actual main fleet

[strange flame]

yeah but what makes her the best support ship, and also i cant remember who exactly said porter but i remember i was told that

[wind hazel]

she gives multiple buff

[twin bronze]

How much RLD tech do I need when running USS comp for regen meta?

[wind hazel]

honestly you're kinda in awkward situation. you dont have enough UR bulin to mlb a 0lb UR, and you're also missing the pairings needed to make full use of them. it's either soyuz or lexii, but like i said they are kinda missing the pairings here and there

[whole crypt]

a lot of damage buffs for USS main fleet but it's really not something you need to think or worry about now when you don't have that main fleet ready
check again when the main fleet is done, there might be other options to raise at that point

[late flame]

also main fleet gets prio since they deal most of the damage

[strange flame]

so im missing pairings for soyuz and lexii, what are those pairings, i thought it was nakhimov and yorktown II respectively. unless those are the pairings

[sacred dragon]

I'm curious as well where can you find the pairings of the UR ships

[tame pivot]

What're the best non UR DD guns for Moska?

[strange flame]

its contextual

[whole crypt]

the full setup for Lex II is with Yorktown II and Kearsarge

Soyuz with Nakhimov tends to go with Fritz Rumey

[strange flame]

ooh, yeah im currently farming mecklenburg prints -_- she too far away for me rn

[whole crypt]

you could replace Kearsarge with Lion and it'll probably still work

regardless you're down 6 bulins between Lexington and Yorktown so there's really no point thinking about WdP now

[narrow drum]

Stuck with this for now for the META because Aurora isn't full lvl here 🙁 Better recommendations to replace San Diego? Z52 maybe? Did 690,838 on my own beacon

It's in auto mode

[onyx flame]

z52 would do more than sandy

[wind hazel]

what do you have

[onyx flame]

other than that its just adjusting the trop/eva/hit between your vanguards to make sure the stacks are seperated between them

[narrow drum]

Wait I'm making a test with Z52 instead of Sandy, this time in simulation
Awaiting results

[narrow drum]

Lots of UR vanguards
Trafalgar, Z52, Shimakaze (but I tried her already before), Guam, Unzen etc

What I had in the very first place it was Musashi + Lion + Ulrich and Guam + Shima + Unzen and the results were bad (300K 🙁 )

[onyx flame]

prob not obeying the gimmick which leads to poor dmg

[narrow drum]

UGH 🙁

[narrow drum]

Yeah Shima had all the stacks on her rofl

[wind hazel]

use z52 trafalgar wdp

but what gear are you even running

[narrow drum]

(want to change for WDP pretty soon)

[wind hazel]

your main fleet?

[narrow drum]

Laffey II had this

OK wait

[onyx flame]

traf gonna have all the the stacks

[late flame]

Your gear aint cutting it

[wind hazel]

stop going +11 randomly

[wind hazel]

yeah bruh your gear is a complete mess

[narrow drum]

(AA gun for Kearsage need to change)

[late flame]

yup no hvarcat

You wanna check the pinned message..

[wind hazel]

you literally have to change 5 or 6 out of 6 gear on kearsarge

[onyx flame]

more like almost everything for kearsarge need to be changed

[narrow drum]

Oh didn't see 👀

[muted wind]

it doesn't seem worth using the uss carrier setup without hvar fighters

[wind hazel]

if you dont have hvar or bf109g then just go bb

[narrow drum]

Like Lion instead? Or another?

[wind hazel]

idk what you have

[muted wind]

yeah the pinned guide has a BB setup. also for the vanguard, make sure to pay attention to who gets each debuff and that everyone only gets 1 stack

[narrow drum]

It seems to say Lion in the pin

[wind hazel]

can you just show your dock

[late flame]

Given your lack of gear just do your best and spam help lol

[muted wind]

... scroll down further, there is a lion/bis/meck setup

[narrow drum]

Won't go below this

[wind hazel]

gimme 2 mins

[viscid swift]

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide

Might wanna give that a read

[muted wind]

-# (admittedly there isn't anything broadly wrong with that gear that was equipped here, for general use, just not exactly what you want for a boss battle)

[viscid swift]

Bismarck gun on Kearsarge isn't a bad choice?

[muted wind]

that's like the one thing that's objectively wrong, yeah
-# wait what's the fighter on her uhhhh

[whole crypt]

if anything I'd drop laffey first because she's buffing regens

[hushed delta]

what's the max reward you can get from lvl14 meta fight? 69?

[late flame]

-# lowkey disappointed it was not 67

[narrow drum]

690,838 Kearsarge + Lex II + York II ; Laffey II + San Diego + WDP
Knowing there is better than San Diego

[wind hazel]

very cringe dmg, also forgot to spread the stats so traf died early, but dont expect anything substantially more if she survive

🫃🏼 what's the cheat sheet to spread the stats between these 3

[hushed delta]

you expect a lot more dmg if everyone survives against regensM, she gains dmg reduction

[muted wind]

ngl a reliable 2 kill setup is probably good enough anyways. one-shot is just a flex

[wind hazel]

true i forgot

[narrow drum]

Traf had 2 stacks at least there? oO

[wind hazel]

what can i boost the stats so that traf isnt 2x

[muted wind]

i think you either need to give lion the highest ACC or ply, otherwise i don't see TRP and EVA working out

[hushed delta]

I'm screwed, I don't have a 2nd skyraider

[wind hazel]

this is cringe

[muted wind]

wait who takes the AVI buff actually

[wind hazel]

idk i think traf?

somehow ply and wdp x1

[muted wind]

hm, i mean whoever you gave the AVI gear will take it in a BB fleet

[narrow drum]

OK this one does catch back a bit now
But I think Laffey has 2 stacks, WDP doesn't have any so need to balance still oO

(lvl 15 simu)

[wind hazel]

bro stop using laffey2 she's useless

nvm ply have the avi

[muted wind]

are lex and york using rocket fighters at this point?

[wind hazel]

i cant decrease the eva and acc stats 😭

[onyx flame]

ngl with a comp like that should be doing more dmg than me

[muted wind]

well, not with flapjacks

[wind hazel]

dont think i cant fit traf and wdp together

[whole crypt]

Laffey II is not useless
Laffey II is actively buffing RegensM's damage

[narrow drum]

Without it's worse... X.X

[whole crypt]

if you're using her as a tank you need another tank because every time her bun strikers leave screen regens gets another 30% FP and TRP

[wind hazel]

use plymouth use plymouth use plymouth use plymouth use plymouth use plymouth use plymouth use plymouth use plymouth use plymouth use plymouth

and stop using CV if you dont have hvar

[narrow drum]

OK I try this next

[muted wind]

laffey2 is also pretty much guaranteed to take at least 2 of the debuff stacks, so i really see no reason to even bother with her

[whole crypt]

just 3 sets of Mk6 can probably consistently get you 60% or some shit

[wind hazel]

FUCK now it's wdp x2

[narrow drum]

She does on mine indeed

[whole crypt]

who's third

[muted wind]

well, she has significantly more ACC and EVA than any other ship you can reasonable send in here

[wind hazel]

replaced traf with the one and only Helena

[whole crypt]

Helena won't fly

[narrow drum]

This was last test btw

Trying Plymouth and testing BB full behind

[whole crypt]

actually maybe she can let me see

[viscid swift]

are the CVs using HVAR hellcats yes or no

[muted wind]

-# i'd be concerned about the damage if so

[narrow drum]

#gameplay-help message

[wind hazel]

wdp eating rld and eva im dead fuck this vanguard setup

[muted wind]

do you have any bg 109g or hvar hellcats? if so replace the fighters with those

[hidden pasture]

we gonna have a new UR next right

[viscid swift]

Then change them to HVARs or any rocket fighters

[whole crypt]

Helena with SG and/or 76mm
WDP needs to not use ACC gear

[viscid swift]

Otherwise there's no point in running them against a light armor boss

[narrow drum]

I think I can build the Hellcats will see

[onyx flame]

not anytime soon, next event is a ijn event and after there a collab

[whole crypt]

RLD is not a check
it's distributing TRP EVA and ACC for vanguards unless you have no CVs

[muted wind]

(make sure it's actually the hellcats with hvar rockets, saw someone else get them mixed up before)

[hidden pasture]

bruh so no UR banner near?

[whole crypt]

late May

[hidden pasture]

should i pull soyuz, i have no UR ship rn

[wind hazel]

wdp still eating trp and eva

acc is already taken by helena

[hidden pasture]

besides 2 bullins and 1 in the shop

[hushed delta]

we just had 2 URs in a row

[wind hazel]

🫃🏼 this is tougher than i thought

[narrow drum]

OK so this one doesn't work that well with me sadly 🙁
Will see for the Hellcats

[hidden pasture]

i just start playing

[viscid swift]

Just oxy torp.one of them

[hidden pasture]

should i pull soyuz?

[wind hazel]

ply is taking on avi

[viscid swift]

Are you using HE guns on all of them

[wind hazel]

is there any avi gear for bb

[viscid swift]

And did you give one of them gear that gives AVI

Like, my dude, instead of throwing stuff at the wall

[narrow drum]

Meck has AP

[viscid swift]

You might wanna go back to Suchi's guide and actually read the mechanics of the fight

[eternal basalt]

Probably collab gear, some have AVI and can be used for all

[viscid swift]

As well learn some basic gearing

Because if you knew how the mechanics worked you'd know with that fleet of you're not running any AVI gear you're giving Regensburg a free 20% damage reduction

[wind hazel]

👽 albion aux has avi ez

[muted wind]

i don't see any vanguard-equipable collab gear with AVI, but there are 3 pieces that do otherwise. so surely they have one of those.

[onyx flame]

watatsumi research notes trust

[viscid swift]

And Mecklenburg has her damage reduced by something like 200%

[wind hazel]

fuck my wdp sitll 2x AAAAAAAAAAA

[viscid swift]

Because she's running an AP and not an HE gun

[eternal basalt]

Why vanguard though, they need to sink the 1/1/1 already

[hidden pasture]

should i pull for soyuz or wait til next UR? i dont have any UR rn

[late flame]

How many cubes?

[onyx flame]

do you have enough cubes and coins to even make it to pity

[hidden pasture]

enough

[eternal basalt]

Which is?

[hidden pasture]

400+?

[ivory pawn]

I’m more worried about coin atp tbh.

[onyx flame]

there like 17.5 hours left of the event

[muted wind]

do you want to cripple your main fleet damage instead?

[hidden pasture]

400+ cubes and 300k coins, 198 quick build

[whole crypt]

oxytorp whoever the other vanguard is?

[eternal basalt]

It cripples damage?

[narrow drum]

Welp I only have a single HVAR in the dock, RIP me 😢

[muted wind]

... so we're on the same page, this was about a 3-BB fleet, right?

[wind hazel]

wdp rld and eva
helena acc
ply torp

[ivory pawn]

I would pull.

[wind hazel]

🫃🏼 this is hard

[eternal basalt]

"If the shipgirl with Hunt of the Mighty is in your Main Fleet, she gets inflicted with Burn and takes DMG over time (Burn DMG is not affected by Hunt of the Mighty)."
Says nothing about reducing damage

[whole crypt]

RLD isn't a checked stat

[hidden pasture]

thanks.

[wind hazel]

what are the stats again, avi fp trp eva acc?

[muted wind]

yeah but you'd be swapping out a piece of gear that improves a BB's damage then

[wind hazel]

then wtf is my wdp 2x

[whole crypt]

there is indeed a way to put avi on vanguard

[ivory pawn]

FP is a BB, who has AVI?

[eternal basalt]

FP, TRP, AVI, EVA, and ACC.

[wind hazel]

soyuz

[muted wind]

did you consider william's 15% TRP buff?

[wind hazel]

no, imma double oxytorp ply then

[eternal basalt]

I just swapped out my BB for cat

[whole crypt]

why Ply though no 52?

[crystal ore]

wow. I just realized I'm an idiot. I can just cheese the lvl on C1 map

[wind hazel]

because i dont think z52 buff gonna outdmg ply buff on lion

[muted wind]

if it was that close... did ply already have a rainbow quad quint? just in case.

[crystal ore]

Now I have to speedrun all the map

[whole crypt]

as long as it's enough damage to kill it's better than fussing over stats?

[crystal ore]

with 800 oils

[wind hazel]

no i used improved quad lul

[wind hazel]

what makes you think this is close to kill lol

[hidden pasture]

Should i continue

[muted wind]

nice

[hidden pasture]

328 cubes left

[muted wind]

yeah, save the cubes for future banners, you need 400 to guarantee a UR

[hidden pasture]

alr

[wind hazel]

@narrow drum have fun

[eternal basalt]

New banner in a week, might skip though

[hidden pasture]

alrightyyy, 1st mass gacha since start playing

[whole crypt]

not to mention any buff you lose on Lion from using 52 over Ply kind of gets replaced by buff on the other 2 main fleet ships

[narrow drum]

Helena not lvl max here 😭

[muted wind]

use that soyuz dupe for limit breaking her while we're on the topic

[wind hazel]

nvm you go figure it out on your own good luck

[muted wind]

5th stage of grief: acceptance

[whole crypt]

assist button exists

[muted wind]

honestly, the ~900k damage setup they had earlier is probably good enough

[narrow drum]

Yeah I'll rego Lion + Lex II + York ++ ; Eldridge retro + Z52 + WDP

[hidden pasture]

can someone look over my dock for me and tell me what to do with the new character? #1481279947820634233

[muted wind]

i'd say try swapping york for alsace and see if that's better, but other than that this feels like a waste of time

[narrow drum]

I'll try after

[crystal ore]

Btw. each stage will have a requirement right. Like i see there are some stats req in the bottom left before I start the quest. It is yellow. So that mean it's barely make it right?

[wind hazel]

yellow means you pass. red means fail

[crystal ore]

Ohhh

[hidden pasture]

should i mlb soyuz

[eternal basalt]

That's just for hard, next event is SP so no worries

[timid beacon]

Your telling me I’ll be able to get one of these two

[narrow drum]

Yes, one of them

[timid beacon]

Wish I knew this a year earlier and didn’t have to pity nj

No way I can get shinano now

[wind hazel]

comparable lol

[narrow drum]

Similar damage apparently

[muted wind]

hm. you could try them both a couple times and see what's more consistent? or just... use whatever. sounds like you can 2-shot it. that's good enough.

[narrow drum]

Meanwhile Helena and Aurora will go to the dorm 👀

[crystal ore]

Do I consume more oil If I used submarine?

how much to be exact?

[muted wind]

submarines spend the cost listed on the submarine fleet (i.e. the sum of the cost of each submarine in the fleet) if you actively call them into battle. otherwise they don't use any

[wheat ore]

What are good subs to use with I-404? I can mlb her btw

[wind hazel]

flasher archerfish

[muted wind]

archerfish and flasher are the best afaik. is this the only UR you want to limit break?

[wheat ore]

oh no, idk what UR to limit break next tbh

[muted wind]

... yeah put this on hold then. i mean, feel free to level archerfish and flasher anyways, but i-404 should not be the priority

i'd say guam first? she's just generally nice for late campaign chapters. or moskva. missing a bit too much for william.

shinano+hakuhou is more investment and you're missing someone to slow enemies for them, so... not yet either.

[wheat ore]

so how low of a priority is i-404? compared to what you have just said, also idk who to replace for guam 😭

[wind hazel]

lowest among your UR

[muted wind]

there is no content that requires submarines, so pretty much last

[viscid swift]

might wanna read this
https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vRMH0Yyv6vWH1apqWU7t0xV9xax73CELlCIC5g7Lw-pJnKpwDM4UBcTN22oqnfRKKq-3GQ6_0FbhcB8/pub

[muted wind]

she's a tank with good AA, so... a tank in any fleet you're using.

[wheat ore]

oh so just staright up better than saint louis?

[wind hazel]

you're comparing a toyota to a lambo

[muted wind]

i mean, i guess saint louis was relatively tanky when she released. i guess if you were using her as a tank, yes.

[crystal ore]

Is there a way to cheese this?

[wind hazel]

just need higher level, that's all

if you have any exp books, that's the cheese way

[wheat ore]

oh okay, i mean i'm currently raising anchorage, but is this a waste of time since i'll replace her eventually anyway?

[muted wind]

i suppose not. you also have moskva there, so you got a 2nd tank lined up if you need it

[crystal ore]

i used it all on dunker

[wind hazel]

rip then no cheesing for you

[crystal ore]

Rip

[wheat ore]

she does well with other tanks?

[muted wind]

no, but you need multiple fleets

... i mean, i guess you don't need anchorage, but i dunno when you get around to being done with both guam and moskva, so you may as well finish her still

[wheat ore]

how often are all 4 fleets used in op si? i only ever used 1 for some reason

[narrow drum]

Arbiter at the center personally

And a bit strongholds if you place the fleets

[muted wind]

3+ fleets are useful at least for the arbiter, yes. 4th fleet can be for cross-fleet effects.

[wind hazel]

you will mostly be using at least 2 active fleets. if poor gear then you'll be using at least 1 mob and 2 boss fleets

[muted wind]

... you only need 1 built fleet for strongholds since you can just leave to heal btw

[wheat ore]

oh i see, it's probaably cuz i never got that far in opsi, is there a way i can check what chapter i'm on?

[muted wind]

but opsi aside, you need 2 fleets for campaign

[muted wind]

i believe the opsi story objective states the chapter? the last is chapter 5

[onyx flame]

Swap fleet 1 and fleet 2 to meet the fleet req but yea nothing you can do about the level part

[narrow drum]

Thoughts? One has better mean but worse standard deviation, other one has worst mean but better standard deviation

[wheat ore]

oh i don't seem to see an objective so maybe i have completed it

[muted wind]

is the node in the middle unlocked?

[wind hazel]

brother use mk6 or mk7

[viscid swift]

again, why the fuck do you insist on using AP guns

against a LIGHT ARMOR boss

[muted wind]

switch to an HE gun and stick to the alsace setup i'd say

[forest palm]

Regensburg M is Light right?

[wind hazel]

it's 1m dmg at least even if someone dies lol

[viscid swift]

literally just look gear we've listed for LIGHT armor
https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide

[muted wind]

if you finished the story, and haven't done it this month, you'd have an objective to defeat the arbiter.

[narrow drum]

Because I have nothing else 🙁

[wind hazel]

i dont believe you at all

[ivory pawn]

Not even mk6s?

[muted wind]

... expand the filter to purple guns

[wind hazel]

wow 5 457

[viscid swift]

what do you mean you have nothing else the purple Mk6 literally comes from tech boxes

[wheat ore]

oh i think the objective is there 💀 , both the marker and the center is red so i didn't see it

[muted wind]

for the record, this is the gun we're asking you to look for

[wind hazel]

and you only need 1 too

[muted wind]

oh what the fuck

[wind hazel]

just open tech box

[muted wind]

yeah, eagle union tech boxes. one should drop fairly easily

[wind hazel]

and please, scrap the entire screen

[muted wind]

or craft another mk7 if you have the materials.

[muted wind]

not the +12 quad

[narrow drum]

You're lucky XD

[wind hazel]

like literally scrap them for coin. the coin you get are more useful than these shit sitting in your inventory

scrap and get coin and plates for the mk6 🧠

[narrow drum]

I have the coins no worries XD

[viscid swift]

and get it out if your head higher rarity automatically means better in this game

[narrow drum]

😬 Believe me I would have built it

[whole crypt]

do mk6 prints commonly drop somewhere or did I just build this from research

[wind hazel]

and you should really, really, stop +11 +12 random piece of gear

[hollow gust]

my fleet hasnt lost legit yet, im like 20/21 ; the one lost was stigs fault

[viscid swift]

10 years behind the times

[muted wind]

unironically, that +12 gold quad in the screenshot is so bad you may as well scrap it to get some of the gold plates back. i don't think it can be used in the gear lab for anything to get the full amount back.

[wind hazel]

yeah legit scrapping is the best option

[whole crypt]

gold quad is best at +0 when you want a BB to not shoot at all

[narrow drum]

Just swapped for the gun NJ had

[muted wind]

and gave nj the purple one? should be fine.

[narrow drum]

NJ is not being used right now for my thingies so she can wait

[muted wind]

... wait you weren't sending nj into the battle anyways.

-# whoops, accidental side quest

[narrow drum]

But yeah no NJ wasn't sent to battle for now
Also passed the cap of 900K
Just redoing some runs to get the mean and the SD

i don't think it can be used in the gear lab for anything to get the full amount back
Estimating they still keep only 3 canoons if they insert someday Lion's gun, yeah the branch should remain at this gun in the Gear Lab oO

[muted wind]

i don't have the historical knowledge to know where the lion gun would go

[whole crypt]

I can see lion gun coming out of either hood or monarch gun when it gets added to lab in 4 fricking years

[muted wind]

yeah anyway just scrap it lmao

[narrow drum]

The top one maybe oO

[whole crypt]

just scrap it and be glad you haven't taken the +13

[muted wind]

well, either way, it's not coming out of the 356mm, so... you're not getting the plates back

[whole crypt]

I won't 100% say it won't but there's no point holding onto it for 4 years in hopes that it will

[narrow drum]

Yeah they don't retrograde 4 to 3 canoons XD

[whole crypt]

it's not entirely impossible but lion gun isn't coming soon enough to lab to even bother worrying about it

[narrow drum]

Ah yeah right forgot this one...

But I think even the "how the mount was done" more chances they take the branch at the top if ever they would put Lion's gun here

Otherwise for now it's the NJ gun runs seeming to win, I just have a quite bad run that broke my SD 🙁

[viscid swift]

let me guess you also scrapped Aurora?

[narrow drum]

She's in the dock but not high level enough

[viscid swift]

might wanna get her leveled up then

because she's made for bosses like this'

[narrow drum]

Yeah that's why I put her in the dorm already with Helena
(+ need to up Moskva and Archerfish still)

[ornate forum]

Can someone tell me why I see nobody using this gear? Am I missing something? Is it bugged?

[muted wind]

it's worse than a steam catapult for every other content

that skill only activates in pvp

[narrow drum]

OK so it gives this
Why the SD so bad though despite the excellent mean 😭

[ornate forum]

Cuz Naval Exercise Gear?

[muted wind]

slightly wider gun spread

[narrow drum]

OK might grab her back her admiralty table

[muted wind]

don't you have the 2 of them?

[narrow drum]

Yes, but they're just not on Alsace XD It's Ulrich and Vanguard having them
Will just take Vanguard's since I'm not using her at all ^^

[muted wind]

... please put the other one on lion while you're at it

[viscid swift]

why you wouldn't throw your best ships and gear at this I have no idea

[narrow drum]

Should be better

[viscid swift]

also doesn't help that you're not running any eva rate debuffers

[muted wind]

-# mean while i am probably about to fuck up all my assigned gear tomorrow since they're releasing ch16 clearing mode and i still need to 3* it

[hollow gust]

What even was his frontline

[muted wind]

unless you have some of the USS UR AA gun, this... is about as good as it gets. yeah.

[narrow drum]

Yeah since Ulrich isn't used anymore for now

AA guns it's in collecting the rainbow plans for now, I need even more for other girls as well

[muted wind]

that's fair, it's just a 5 ACC difference anyhow

[hoary relic]

those are my current URs, who should i use my bulins for( 0 currently)

[hollow gust]

Are they not using Trafalgar

[viscid swift]

last I checked no

[muted wind]

to make sure i'm not missing anything, the only ones left to lb here are i-404 and soyuz?

[narrow drum]

No it's Eld retro + Z52 + William

[viscid swift]

read this
https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vRMH0Yyv6vWH1apqWU7t0xV9xax73CELlCIC5g7Lw-pJnKpwDM4UBcTN22oqnfRKKq-3GQ6_0FbhcB8/pub

[hoary relic]

yep

[muted wind]

in that case i don't think you need soyuz, so you could do i-404 if you want to build a sub fleet. if you don't want to do that... well... soyuz

[knotty dome]

what plane is this?

[muted wind]

from lex II event

[knotty dome]

thanks

[viscid swift]

why aren't you using trafalgar anyway

[hollow gust]

You realize Trafalgar provides you with a better stop then Elridge

[narrow drum]

We tried and it less worked, but I can retry now oO

[viscid swift]

just make sure every vanguard gets one stack each

[narrow drum]

Yeah no Traf it doesn't work for me, one vanguard has x3
With Eldridge it was x2 and x1

[muted wind]

ideally it's x1 3 times. the stats responsible for that are likely ACC/EVA/TRP. maybe check that gets distributed correctly

[knotty dome]

this lexii plane isn't listed on the nerezza/sam excel, is it out of date?

[viscid swift]

then use what aux gear you have equipped to manupulate it so that they have one stack each

[narrow drum]

Yeah that's why Traf didn't work for me XD Since it did x 3

[hoary relic]

is meck lion bis2 good for all kind of armour?

[muted wind]

those may be outdated? but i also don't think you'll find it recommended since it's primarily an accelerator dive bomber

[solar sapphire]

Hello again

[knotty dome]

oh okay, thanks

[viscid swift]

Don't think Sam has updated any of his things in a few months now

[solar sapphire]

Sorry to bother, I managed to get all ships from the current banner aside from Pamiat, aside from getting her, is anything important to do asap today?