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elfin hollow
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it needs several prompts and feedback from you guys (who are basically veterans of Azur Lane) to prompt the AI to rethink for itself and verify and give a better answer

whole crypt
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if you need to ask something about the game just ask it here

soft raft
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^

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To give you a actual answer, UR and research ships (and iirc META ships as well) are not affected by the lvl caps per LB

IE you can have a UR be lvl 100+ while they're still 0LB

viscid swift
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as if it needs to be said, Ai can and will just make stuff up

whole crypt
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or otherwise hallucination

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part of the problem is there isn't a lot of materials out there that AI can scrape for AL, and of what's actually out there a lot of it isn't up to date, accurate or even right to start with

elfin hollow
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I asked AI to make the following corrections:

whole crypt
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just stop asking AI

viscid swift
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who cares

elfin hollow
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How does one get more of these gold nugget type things on the top right hand corner?

viscid swift
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missions which require you to clear even stages x number of times

spark patio
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Do we have any mt today?

soft raft
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No

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#game-news would've mentioned it if we were gonna have one

spark patio
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wth is this event only 2 week long

soft raft
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"Only"

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that's the normal event duration wdym Only

spark patio
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I thought UR event was 3 weeks long

stark quiver
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its not always

ivory pawn
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It's specifically anniversaries that are 3 weeks. Dw it gets me too.

stark quiver
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also dont we have 1 more week

soft raft
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May and Sept URs are 3 weeks because it's Exam season in China in May (and also CN Anniv) and JP anniv in Sept

stark quiver
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im at 2k event points 😭

whole crypt
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it started because Chinese uni entrance exams

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CN and JP anniv used to be 2 week events until CN players asked for an extension because of the exam clash, JP has had some weird 2+ week shit after that but eventually they kind of all settled on 3 weeks

stark quiver
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gaokao 💀

sweet delta
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EN Anni better be 3 weeks too or we riot NagaMad

whole crypt
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but you guys have no rainbow

elfin hollow
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is this "Akashi Shop" = "Akashi Recommends" section of the cash shop?

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ive never met akashi in the game so far.. hope she is an important character

viscid swift
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uh what

stark quiver
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she isnt

little tree
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~~ she scams you~~

late flame
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there is a quest to get her in game, but its not really worth the effort unless you want her for collection

spark patio
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there was a guide for getting Akashi iirc

stray crane
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guy c1 for ap crate where do i farm for coins ?

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c5?

whole crypt
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have you cleared map

stray crane
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yeah

whole crypt
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do you normally burn in C3 or C5

stray crane
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c3

whole crypt
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then just run C3

stray crane
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okay

elfin hollow
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if i am stuck on 7-4 due to low exp, what is the best way forward? try to get PR or META ships? or just do the grind on ch7 and hope exp can rise..?

whole crypt
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how high can you go for the event

wind hazel
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wdym stuck due to low exp lol

elfin hollow
whole crypt
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keep running and see if you can level till you can manage D1

onyx flame
elfin hollow
whole crypt
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campaign doesn't really offer you anything right now

viscid swift
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Sigh

wind hazel
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you're using shit ships without max limit breaks, that's why you're stuck

whole crypt
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am I looking at 3 0LB URs

viscid swift
viscid swift
onyx flame
wind hazel
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1LB NJ no cap

whole crypt
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nevermind I just saw Shinano

elfin hollow
late flame
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10 dollars say none are mlb

wind hazel
whole crypt
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anyway... when you say low XP do you mean you can't clear 7-4 or you don't have enough commander level to open 8-1

viscid swift
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Just read the progression guide

whole crypt
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either way the only answer is to keep leveling, and the best place to do it now is in the event alongside point grind

elfin hollow
viscid swift
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Now that's a low

wind hazel
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that's not low exp

whole crypt
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and you just have to keep playing to level the ships

viscid swift
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But an unsurprising one

elfin hollow
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alright i will focus on somehow, getting my new jersey and shinano to LB them but it will be hard. meanwhile i will LB the rest of them

whole crypt
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use ships you can actually LB or are already LB'd first

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just don't touch the rainbows if you have LB'd purples/golds

viscid swift
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Or just bench them

elfin hollow
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i thought i should save up resources to LB my favorite ships only. but it appears this is not correct, and i need to focus on getting to a point where i can grind good resources first

ocean terrace
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if a research ship has an option for FS, and I have blueprints for it, am I forced to use them or can I convert

viscid swift
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The latter

wind hazel
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i mean if you insist you can just focus on limit breaking NJ. it is worse long term, but don't spread your UR bulin between that many UR ship. focus one by one

late flame
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the latter*

elfin hollow
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yes i did read the guide and i believed this was the key. that EXP can be used to overlevel my URs so they can demolish maps easily. turns out thats not the case

elfin hollow
wind hazel
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so drop shimakaze, shinano, ulrich

viscid swift
late flame
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rainbow doesnt always mean best

stark quiver
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rainbow means best most of the time

viscid swift
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Like the part where a 0 limit break UR is worse than a MLB common

soft raft
ivory pawn
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Right at the very top. Literally first thing.

whole crypt
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how does 0LB NJ compare to retrofitted Nevada one for one at say lv100

ivory pawn
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Well, second thing, but the first thing is a link to the newbie tips.

viscid swift
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Worse I think

wind hazel
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no idea but im willing to bet 2LB NJ will shit on most mlb non SR BB

wind hazel
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yup eat shit nevada! 🦅 🌈

onyx flame
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just barely EssexWheeze

late flame
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smh wasting UR bulins on NJ in 2026

wind hazel
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i'd rather they do that and love the game than burning out using poop shits and abandon the game

stark quiver
whole crypt
wind hazel
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that's why you mlb your NJ

whole crypt
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that's why you don't use the rainbows you can't MLB

viscid swift
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There's a massive difference between being a meta slave and understanding the game

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And this is the latter

wind hazel
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newbie can easily get their NJ to 2LB now

viscid swift
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But why though

wind hazel
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because they love NJ

elfin hollow
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i currently cannot LB NJ right now as i have "no ships matching your filter criteria". I dont have any UR bulin. i have SR bulin and I have to use them to LB my SR ships... darn i really thought i could build a dream team focused on a few URs but looks like I have to wait...

whole crypt
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there's a huge gap between super casual and meta slave and you can still be closer to the former even if you understand the game

viscid swift
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I mean I also love Mogador but you don't see me shilling her at every opportunity

ocean terrace
viscid swift
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And they can use NJ at a later date even at 0 LB

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When they have a half decent fleet together and some progression

wind hazel
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if you want me to give the gph advice, i'd say save your UR bulin for Soyuz rerun

elfin hollow
soft raft
viscid swift
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Like, I'd rather they get a decent spot in the game first before encouraging shall we say experimentation

ocean terrace
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if they're a new player, they have current event UR bulin, 1 from spec cores, another from the missions new players get

ivory pawn
wind hazel
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i dont wanna dictate how another person should play the game, just inform them the pros and cons, let them decide on their own

soft raft
frosty shell
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I’ve got two UR bulins, which 2lb should I max?

viscid swift
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Yeah but I'm not gonna actively encourage a sub optimal choice either

wind hazel
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i wasnt either....

ocean terrace
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@soft raft you don't think they could get enough to MLB in a couple weeks?

viscid swift
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I'd argue you were but whatever

whole crypt
elfin hollow
soft raft
soft raft
whole crypt
viscid swift
wind hazel
ocean terrace
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and I was referring to them being able to MLB NJ within that time

wind hazel
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but 2 weeks is sus, too tight

soft raft
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yeah no 2 weeks would be impossible even assuming optimal timing

ocean terrace
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true true, they'd have to grind and play a lot

whole crypt
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to be very fair, given his current progress he might as well finish LBing NJ if he can get the milestone bulin this event and whenever soyuz rerun happens

opaque galleon
whole crypt
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but at least it'll be in the ballpark of a month

ocean terrace
viscid swift
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Anyway, that's the least of their concerns right now

ocean terrace
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they're used to buy UR bulins from the monthly shop, and other things

elfin hollow
whole crypt
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the bottom line is it's not helpful for the 1 week he has left to grind the event

wind hazel
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fixing the fleet is more important lol

ocean terrace
wind hazel
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you played at the right time

ocean terrace
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though there were a lot of factors to that

whole crypt
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most players won't see 6 UR bulins in their first month

viscid swift
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First 2 months if anything

wind hazel
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most dont even see 1 because 90% are casual login 10mins

opaque galleon
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1 from first time milestone, 1 from spec core shop, 1 from ongoing event, that’s all that are possible immediately iirc

viscid swift
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Do you really think a brand new account that can't even get last 7-4 is gonna have an easy time getting 30k event points

opaque galleon
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Lmao no

viscid swift
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Or even getting 4k specialized cores before the month is half over even

ocean terrace
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I had the luxury of having extra resources in storage from my account being so old

late flame
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-# i did but then again i whaled from the start lul

ocean terrace
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hence why I could grind the event at the time

viscid swift
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I mean you weren't exactly new then

opaque galleon
ocean terrace
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true true, extra oil helped a lot lmao

opaque galleon
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6 bulins my arse

viscid swift
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Not even the oil

ocean terrace
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I mean it was still f2p and I was only on Ch3 😭

viscid swift
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Just having some semblance of progression

wind hazel
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NagatoStare ch3

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90% oil factor fr

viscid swift
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And that returnee event which handed a lot of stuff out

ocean terrace
wind hazel
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what do you get from returnee, isnt it like free unicorn and techbox some shit

elfin hollow
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is there anything you recommend buying in the springtide event shop? i think i made mistake spending 8000 lanterns to buy Ganggut META and have no use for her... i have 4200 lanterns.. what should i buy?

viscid swift
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And an additional UR bullin

ivory pawn
wind hazel
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oh so that's why 6 ur bulin was possible

viscid swift
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So that's how they got 6

elfin hollow
ivory pawn
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There is not, it's part of the milestones. Just need to earn 30,000 total.

wind hazel
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@elfin hollow before you do anything just post your dockyard in a thread, let's fix your fleet before we start grinding again or you're just gonna be stuck again

elfin hollow
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omg... i better grind hard

opaque galleon
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Though you only have a week from now

ocean terrace
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also hope you haven't been taking those commissions that use 1200 oil and give 4500 coins

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save your oil for the event grinding

elfin hollow
wind hazel
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separate main fleet and vanguard if possible, doesnt matter too much, unlikely you have 500+ ships

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bet it's just 3 screenshots (what could go wrong)

elfin hollow
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bluebay DOCK

blissful hamlet
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How is moska compared to hindenburg

icy robin
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Is this gun good (dumb question)

ivory pawn
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Yes.

ivory pawn
ocean terrace
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it's DR5 and PR6 that can be coined now right?

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hmmm I'd like to know my research ship priority now then

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doing FdG atm but I'll unlock her within the next week or 2

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I've done Roon and Anchorage (both dev30)

ivory pawn
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Plymouth would be ideal if possible.

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Could also do Aegir, or any PR you’re able to do.

ocean terrace
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I think I have plenty of tanks though atm

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though I need a considerable amount of HMS tech points for Ply

ivory pawn
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Plymouth ain’t a tank. Do, idk, Monarch then.

ocean terrace
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yeah I think Monarch into Ply would be good

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AvP doesn't really provide much for me right? she's just a decent CV?

ivory pawn
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She’s the best budget freeze, also a good choice.

onyx flame
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Shes a stop but she need fs5 which takes a while

ocean terrace
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what about Shimanto

rapid summit
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What’s the next major event? (One with 2 UR’s)

onyx flame
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Shes good too for the later campaign chp

ocean terrace
onyx flame
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I mean shes mainly AA focus so yea

ocean terrace
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think I'll try up my HMS points for now and aim for Ply then

ivory pawn
onyx flame
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they ask what EssexWheeze

ocean terrace
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could someone send the lars db for ships

ivory pawn
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Oh, well that’s their fault for asking an impossible to answer question.

ivory pawn
odd rootBOT
rapid summit
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So Alsace and mogador?

ivory pawn
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No they’ll be sometime soon-ish after maybe.

rapid summit
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Okk ty

rotund narwhal
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Late may

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Then it's rerun in mid june

rapid summit
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Alr ty

elfin hollow
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my ship level is around 70-99 and yet i keep failing level 60 tacitical training aviation... why is that?

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is the daily raids and exercises even worth doing as a new player?

sweet delta
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Have you read the game tip on the screen where you choose your ships for that?

dire arch
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Hey i am getting closer to Lvl 60. I need some recommendations for Op Siren.

whole crypt
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maybe start a thread with your dock when you hit 60

tulip tinsel
elfin hollow
tulip tinsel
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Aviation CV , shelling BB

stark quiver
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whats bbv

whole crypt
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shells get bonus on shelling, planes get bonus on aviation

quiet timber
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how long would it take to get auto combat as a new player? is it only a few short levels?

sweet delta
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at or after 1-3 so only 3 maps

dire arch
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Where to get Mainz?

sweet delta
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I would like you to convey to Yostar staff to either hurry up and allow Yostar Account (yellow screen) to be used for login/bind OR remove it from Azur Lane entirely. All it's done for the past 1 year and 3 months is bait players, confuse players, and hide the working Yostar email bind (black button) and social media binds. So #tech-support is full of Yostar account already bound to another game account errors #game-news message

elfin hollow
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Is research needed as a new player? I keep seeing a red uncleared button on bottom but cannot clear it

sweet delta
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set research focus to 8

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you can queue projects, up to 6, and that should always be running. Just choose the Q, D, G, scrap gear E, or C/T as last resort if you can't afford anything

elfin hollow
inner delta
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im not understanding your question here

elfin hollow
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can anyone confirm whether the current springtide event is a UR event and contains 1 UR Bulin as a certain milestone?

elfin hollow
# woven star

sorry i still cannot find where this is, is it in the cash shop milestone?

tulip tinsel
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You click the event button and the milestone there

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One of the 3 event buttons that's not the map

muted wind
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there are 2 event buttons in the top right of the main menu, click the left one, then go the milestone/supply station tab

whole crypt
# woven star

yes it's there, it's in every UR event, 15000 if it's a rerun

elfin hollow
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lots of thanks!

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if you dislike a particular UR you pulled (for example moskva). is it recommended to retire that ship so you generate a UR bulin and use it to LB one of the ships you like, like the NJ?

muted wind
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you only get 400 specialized cores for doing that and it counts towards the monthly 5k limit, so you can gain quite literally nothing from that. no.

elfin hollow
muted wind
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-# *i think it was 400, if that was wrong, the rest of my statement still stands

eternal basalt
whole crypt
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*0 specialized core because you cap anyway

muted wind
whole crypt
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assuming you don't hit the cap... I'd still just use a dupe for LB first

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you're giving up a bulin later for 1/8 of a bulin now

scarlet cosmos
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any tips on how to 3 star 16-3? i 100% it, but am having trouble clearing all mobs bc out of ammo

whole crypt
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have you tried repeating it to get it to safe first

scarlet cosmos
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yes

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i am also running two mob fleets now

whole crypt
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start a thread and post what you're using now

scarlet cosmos
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W 16-3 3 star

twin bronze
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Is there any advantage of having tuning adapts more than 203/203/156? Wiki mentions max health reduction is capped at that value but I've seen some folks have over 500 tuning

late flame
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its just flexing past that point

onyx flame
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most people have that high off an adapts is mostly from c1 farming NurnNom

elfin hollow
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One if my ur ships reached 100. What should I do now? Should I limit break the ur as it stops gaining exp at level 100? Do I still need to put it in dorm?

eternal basalt
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They still gain xp in combat. But you want them 120/125 anyway so you might aswell uncap her

elfin hollow
onyx flame
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they aren super scarce but you use them quite quickly NurnNom

eternal basalt
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For vets, yeah, they are superscarce

elfin hollow
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I see… if a UR ship hit 100 and is not improved using cog chips. Does the exp the ship earns go anywhere? Is it related to that proficiency classroom?

eternal basalt
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It is hold on her (up to 3 million)... and all ship s level 100+ gain profficiency for the classroom

elfin hollow
eternal basalt
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It's all automatic now

onyx flame
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you still gotta collect the book like the same for gold and oil but thats bout it NurnNom

flat oak
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Btw, regarding bonus stuff we get from commissions, do u farm it by doing 1 hour commissions only?

next lotus
onyx flame
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if you mean the ticket stuff, its based off the length of the comms, so its more important to make sure they are constantly running

flat oak
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Hmm ic

sly ibex
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There's undergoing maintenance?

wind hazel
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no

eternal basalt
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CNY Part 1 ended for real now though

onyx flame
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do ships not get exp from dorm if they arent uncapped MutsukiHyperStare

viscid swift
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nope

onyx flame
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damn thats like 2 or 3 weeks of dorm food wasted MutsukiHyperStare

whole crypt
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don't worry I waste dorm food on a daily basis

soft raft
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You guys use dorm food?

whole crypt
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well you have to at least put 1 food item in for daily, granted it's not an important daily

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sometimes I just chuck random ships in there so I have space for food

woeful sluice
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Can somebody please help me building Opsi fleets?

forest palm
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make a thread, post dock in thread, and someone will help sayuwuNom

woeful sluice
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Opsi

vocal sigil
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in lion/zwei/alsace backline is alsace the one that gets replaced by mecklenburg?

wind hazel
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ye

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i think alsace is still viable vs Light

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but i cant provide the maths, im talking out of my ass

whole crypt
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not like it matters for up to harb

forest palm
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even Harb tends to not matter when you're talking about the high end

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only matters in Meta or CMs ShiWoke

whole crypt
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unfortunately those are affected more by gimmick and timing that the raw power of the ships

sick kettle
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whats the guild tech priority after the max dock space upgrades

whole crypt
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anything really, even dock space is just a slight gem saving

honest laurel
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um , is the combat data for Pr1 and 2 safe to be analyze into Prototype core ? are there any shipgirls on series 1 and 2 that's worth building ?

whole crypt
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combat data packs for every series is safe to analyze, we dont' recommend using them to accelerate research at all

honest laurel
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Can i ask why is it not reccomend ? it there to speed up the grind

whole crypt
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because you end up with a ship that's useless anyway without the prints

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you can finish the XP grind for a ship in 3 days, it takes months for the prints to hit dev30

honest laurel
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so its better to take the grind as a side gig while you work on their required blueprint for dev 30 then ?

atomic abyss
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yes

whole crypt
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like the one time I'd say it's maybe okay is if you're super casual and just want to unlock the ship for collection

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but that's about where it stops

honest laurel
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that was my goal for like 3 years of playing , finally getting serious just start of this year AmagiHeh

whole crypt
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then you should definitely analyze all your CDPs

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there's no real rush for it, we get 5 new ships a year so as long as you're finishing more than 5 a year you're not falling behind

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older ships are also fair game to just leave for later since they're mostly irrelevant

honest laurel
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not all of them right , retiring perseus or uni might be detrimental cause they are literally carrying my entire mob fleet ElbeHeh

whole crypt
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Perseus should be safe to ignore if you have Unicorn

honest laurel
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so i see....well i'll keep playing and saving cubes for UR then , for the 36k fleet power future, thank you for the valuable info 🫡

elfin hollow
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About the war archive. Which one I should play first or it doesn't matter

soft raft
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W12 is alot easier than you'd think at safe threat level

We have people here who drag 6 low rarity tech fodder ships thru that map with no healer perfectly fine

soft raft
whole crypt
soft raft
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And I guess Polaris if you haven't gotten to W9 yet

elfin hollow
whole crypt
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there's also shit like running mirror involution for rudder cope or parallel superimposition for rocket cat but those are later goals

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but you basically can just ignore archive while there's an event going

eager mulch
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hvar

young wolf
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guys do i need to own the ship first to try the rental skin?

whole crypt
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yes

hard dock
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should I use PR / DR ALL prints tier 5 or lower for protocore?

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like all of the ALL prints Thinkpitz

whole crypt
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do you have Plymouth

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4 is probably still okay to spend on Anchorage and Agir

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PR prints are less of an issue since you get to pick a ship you finished but DR needs you to have gotten said DR to dev30 anyway before you can analyze the prints, realistically in the time you need to enhance older DRs by coin you probably won't be thinking too much about analyzing them

hard dock
whole crypt
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what do you mean accidentally, you're recommended to spend all 150 anyway so you have her usable asap

hard dock
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oh

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thanks Nanoda
Is there a guide for this?

hard dock
whole crypt
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usually you do like 10 prints a day on coins so if you use all 150 it's 15 days

hard dock
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After getting all the event banner ships do you switch to standard pool for daily

whole crypt
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yes

hard dock
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or standard heavy / special for UR

whole crypt
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just go back to 1 light a day, pulling for perm UR is a waste of cubes

hard dock
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you don't get perm UR from event UR banner right?

whole crypt
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light build also contributes to perm pity and doesn't cost you 1 more cube
pulling for a perm UR generally isn't useful because you won't be able to afford to LB anyway

hard dock
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oh true

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makes sense thank BulinCopter

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should I UR bulin Moskva or Alsace (or UvH Thinkpitz)

knotty jolt
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Alsace imo

tulip tinsel
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main fleet> vanguard
alsace
uvh is junk even at mlb imo

whole crypt
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UvH didn't age too well but not exactly junk

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do you have enough bulins to finish the LBs, if yes then Alsace is good still

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how far is Anchorage from dev30 just use your PR4 catchup on her if you haven't

hard dock
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any tips on making a fleet with her

whole crypt
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Agir and Anchorage can handle your tanking before Moskva is ready

hard dock
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dev25

whole crypt
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oh then she's pretty ok for tanking already, still finish her though

hard dock
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I tank with Roon RoonSip

whole crypt
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Agir and Anchorage are significantly better

hard dock
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well, off tank, and roon mu

whole crypt
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Alsace can fit in most places, fleet building isn't a thing without knowing what content it's for

hard dock
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oh okay

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what about this month's opsi boss?

whole crypt
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with what you have now BisZwei/Alsace/NJ should take care of most arbiters fine, just change to the right gun for the armour

hard dock
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are the PR 6 guns worth getting when I already have 3 PR 3 guns?

whole crypt
hard dock
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should I use T3 reports on Ply gun?

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or the BB gun

lyric stump
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do we know whos the next meta fight? and whose returning as perma?

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thx

woven star
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Any guide for 14-4 Hard? Especially for boss

onyx flame
mossy sierra
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i'm having trouble passing 8-3 because i need to make it to 8-4 and defeat it to continue the akashi questline

tulip tinsel
onyx flame
onyx flame
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eh NurnNom kinda depends since tenrai also needs em unless you alr got like 2 tenrai, thou tenrai also arent used as much anymore

hard dock
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oh I have 27 ply gun prints though might trade prints
alr got 2 tenrai and a skyraider

onyx flame
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plygun it is for your ordnance then EssexWheeze

whole crypt
hard dock
mossy sierra
whole crypt
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it's not significant but she unironically dilutes your build pool once you unlock her

mossy sierra
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what does akashi do

hard dock
whole crypt
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in the current game basically nothing

onyx flame
whole crypt
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regardless of that though, check guide and ask again if you still have problems with clearing the stage, there can be quite a number of factors contributing to that

mossy sierra
whole crypt
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you should use 1 fleet where you consolidate your resources
multiple half-assed fleets won't do better

mossy sierra
whole crypt
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we are auto by default here

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the thing is if you try to use 2 fleets you're limit breaking and equipping 12 ships

whole crypt
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there's a very good chance you're not affording that and spreading stuff halfway around

mossy sierra
whole crypt
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you can use 1 fleet for mobs and the same fleet for boss

mossy sierra
onyx flame
whole crypt
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because your gear and LB is being spread thin between your 2 fleets instead of building 1 solidly

whole crypt
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start a thread and post what you're using now, there's a fair chance you're also using bad gear besides it just being unenhanced

hard dock
mossy sierra
onyx flame
whole crypt
mossy sierra
whole crypt
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there just happens to be a lot of common mistakes with gear but if you read through the guides a bit then it shouldn't really be an issue

mossy sierra
hollow plank
#

Thanks! To confirm, i don't need ay UR for my normal ship fleet?
also between what you mentioned whihc would be the mob and hwich is the boss fleeeT? thanks!

nocturne glade
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Mob fleet is the one with unicorn and cowpens

tulip tinsel
#

Unicorn is always in mob

umbral briar
#

ask, why I-404 using G7E not bidder?

sweet delta
#

Because in game loadouts recommended by other players are ass

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G7e are indeed better than bidders for I-404, but that's with snorkel hull and not oxytorp

umbral briar
sweet delta
#

@umbral briar

umbral briar
woven star
#

Dam. This game keeps trolling me for awhile. Seems 14-4H boss no need bb as flag. Just pure dmg and survivability for back lines. Finally 100%

low bough
#

what does the damage modifier do on 10+ stuff?

woven star
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More dmg. Smthing +18% at 13. Lower 10 - dmg and cdr

odd elm
#

anyone know what the 25gb update included

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it just made me install 25gb when launching the game

woven star
#

Pls no gifs

little tree
#

~~ the mods will smite you ~~

ivory pawn
woven star
#

URs re always nice. Musashi can save ass a lot for chapters as example. And they have cross-fleet barrage which can save ur farm time

inland shoal
low bough
inland shoal
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Even if I personally liked the gif

odd elm
#

was there a 25gb update today or did something jsut break in my files

woven star
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Seems you didn't play for long time. Island eating space alot

odd elm
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i play daily though....

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but today when i launched it just made me install 25gb of files

soft raft
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Dunno
Usually that means that an asset redownload happened considering that download size but there hasn't been any news about it

woeful sluice
#

if I have 33 tenrai bp's do i focus PR 2 until I have 50 or do I just leave it?

sweet delta
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You mean 4 and focusing 4 is a terrible idea

woeful sluice
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I thought they dropped from 2 lol

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so just leave it even tho I am really close on getting it done

sweet delta
#

I'd rather have 17 more Meck gun or la9 bps than an extra tenrai

woeful sluice
#

fair enough. Btw I'm currently focusing PR7 to finish Nakhimov, do I change it to PR8 to get the Meck gun faster or wait till I'm finished with Nak?

north gorge
#

Nak has catch-up bps now right?

tribal vine
#

does this pity counter go to UR exchange when the event ends?

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i just got moskva finally and im 199/200 for the pity soo idk what to do

hollow gust
tribal vine
hollow gust
tribal vine
hollow gust
tribal vine
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ok

soft raft
vale spindle
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pulls on a banner with rateup limited time UR do not count for the ur permanent exchange points

rapid summit
#

Is it worth using UR bulins for Moskva or use for Yorktown II instead?

knotty jolt
#

Best to just post a screenshot of your URs and how many bulins you got

worn aspen
#

Does anyone know what the next event is likely to be?

rapid summit
knotty jolt
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Imo I'd say hakuhou would be a better option to max then moskva or york2

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Others here might have better insight on this BremenSip

rapid summit
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Hmm they might ig I’ll just wait for now

late flame
fleet marten
#

How do you get the other Currency that isn't the Old Coins in the Event?

soft raft
# worn aspen Does anyone know what the next event is likely to be?

The only things we know are the following:

  • New URs Feb/May/Sept/Dec (And no we don't know anything further than that besides that the Sept one has been a Japanese event ever since basically from the first UR ever)
  • Soyuz Rerun has been announced, no confirmed date yet
soft raft
dire arch
#

Hey guys is it good to retrofit Unicorn?

whole crypt
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Unicorn is the top retrofit priority

rotund crater
#

yes, from what i've seen, she's one of the best healers in the game with her retrofit

vivid bay
#

what's a good stopping point for current event farming stage?

whole crypt
#

55k

dire arch
#

Thks 4 the help

rain timber
#

Is there any way to get more than 2x375 sync points daily for the Yorktown META Showdown? Or is this supposed to just be the daily cap?

ivory pawn
#

Can get up to 3x75 by doing other people's in addition.

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Though you need to be able to do at least about 1.1 million damage without the support barrage to get the max amount.

rain timber
#

Yeah I'm at like ~300k damage (with the support barrage), but I didn't know that helping others also gave me sync points
I don't think I can get all her crystals though qwq
Is it possible to get like "generic" crystals or something for limited META ships after their showdown thing?

soft raft
#

no

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you'd have to wait for them to be added to dossier in like roughly a year

rain timber
#

Sooo I'll just have a 2LB Yorktown META 🫠

stark quiver
#

yeah

soft raft
#

Not like you'd likely be using her anyways

rain timber
#

Thanks for the info!

knotty jolt
#

At least metas can 120 without requiring limit breaks BremenSip

stark quiver
#

if it makes you feel better, i have a 1lb yk meta for the next year or two

soft raft
#

And mine's 0LB because I got lazy EssexWheeze

stark quiver
#

grinding in this game is so bad

rain timber
stark quiver
#

yeah

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like make it take more oil or something, i really dont mind

rain timber
dense arch
#

hi guys just asking if changing gold gear from purple really matters?

I am about to sortie 10-4 but my gears are major purple gears and I have difficulties in clearing the map.

Currently my gear are around +6~+8 and I was wondering should I wait for gold gear, or upgrade all the purple gear I have

hollow gust
#

Good purple gear is infinitely better then garbage gold gear

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Also you are still in w10, pure level diff and decent fleet comp stomps the shit out of it

whole crypt
dense arch
#

Ah I got it, so I should focus on leveling up my ship and use level advantage to pass it then

And thanks for the link

wind hazel
hard dock
#

Hi chat

How do I gear Enty/YorkII/Imply with 2 Tenrais, 1 Skyraider and La-9

wind hazel
#

vs medium?

hard dock
#

I guess Thinkpitz

wind hazel
#

tenrai on york enty, la9 on enterprise, have fun syncing

hard dock
#

okay ty,
what about light? Swap a skyraider for tenrai?

wind hazel
#

yeah on york2

hard dock
wind hazel
#

actually im not too sure on this one, maybe better on enterprise

#

syncing also becomes easier iirc

hard dock
#

What order should they sync? York -> Imply -> Enty with cd cut?

glass aurora
#

I finally got my first level 125 ship. How does leveling work with one in the team? Am I wasting XP or does the extra get split between the others?

hollow gust
#

imply?

wind hazel
#

LilEnty idk, imp goes 2nd is good

hollow gust
#

how do you squeeze any ship in the middle of those 2?

wind hazel
wind hazel
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just swap her out

hard dock
#

Uni heal

wind hazel
#

any lv125 ship=swap out

hard dock
wind hazel
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they retain the 3m and you cope for lv130 release and instant boost their level after awakening

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but as of now the 3m is useless all the same

blazing maple
#

question, how can I understand armor mod?
I don't know what it means

wide needle
#

Hello Im a returning Player any Ships Tier list so I know whom to invest

whole crypt
soft raft
whole crypt
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the gist of it is for main fleet guns HE is better against light and AP is better against medium and heavy

hard dock
#

does old mail get deleted NurnNom

whole crypt
#

off the top of my head your new mail gets blocked

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really just delete old mail there's no point keeping them

#

if there's something you want to keep for whatever reason move it to archive

blazing maple
whole crypt
blazing maple
#

Oh I see

whole crypt
#

so in his example of 100-95-150 the weapon will do 100% damage on light, 95% on medium and 150% on heavy

blazing maple
#

alright then thanks ya'll

safe nexus
#

is this only for DD ships? and does OpSi mob ships has lots of IJN ships?

sweet delta
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It's for all ships but only useful for DDs because they would be using 500 HP auxes anyways

Southeast quarter of Atlantic Ocean has more IJN ships, this item is basically useless in opsi because it's operation siren, not operation Sakura

safe nexus
#

i see thx

wide needle
#

Any suggestion or Ship tier list

sweet delta
#

/tierlist

odd rootBOT
#
Bridal Z23

Ship Tier Lists

Please note that tier lists are subjective and evaluation criteria differ from creator to creator. We encourage users to use multiple guides to get a better picture for ships' performance and said criteria.

🔹Rankings for End Game Azur Lane - Applicable to all forms of late game content (W14/15, META Showdowns, OPSI, CM) by Suchiguma
🔹CN tier list by Hashtag 5467

use /equip for list of equipment TLs and guides
use /guide for list of helpful gameplay guides and FAQs

safe nexus
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should my william d porter use toolkit + hydraulic or 550 aux

stark quiver
#

toolkit + 550

safe nexus
#

gun focused as in no torpedo gear?

#

how to find gun focused DD

viscid swift
#

Gun focused means the majority of their damage is FP based

sweet delta
#

The only gun focused DDs I use that on are 0LB cassin, z20, or downes

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Because you don't want to use it in serious campaign and you prefer 500+ HP for bossing, so only farming is left

cobalt gate
#

Does z20 work for en server or just go with Cassini

wind hazel
#

MutsukiHyperStare huh

whole crypt
#

but it's not going to be significantly better than Cassin or Downes

elfin hollow
#

how does one actually see how much progress you made for the commander exp bar?

rain vine
#

tap the top left on the main page

elfin hollow
whole crypt
#

go into your profile screen

dusty gulch
#

I have 12 ordnance testing reports. I have 1 plymouth gun and 1 tenrai. No Drake/spearfish/Georgia gun. Should i make another tenrai/ply gun?

whole crypt
#

are those 2 from the proto shop prints

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you can get your first 457 from proto shop as well

#

while Tenrai is still the best generic DB for most part you will see decreasing use of it where it matters

#

the first Plymouth gun is also most significant on Plymouth herself, the rest kind of depends on what CLs you're using and extra FP on your BBs

dusty gulch
#

I have Mek/Raf/2NJ guns not sure if georgia gun's still worth. i guess i can buy prints at some point.

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but right now i only have 1 ply gun and 1 mars gun and trying to run 3 CLs.

whole crypt
#

457 is the best lategame mobbing gun but you kind of only need 1, which you can buy from proto shop

dusty gulch
#

yeah i guess, but other things seem more important for me than another BB gun.

whole crypt
#

which 3 CLs are you using

dusty gulch
#

i bet they add a new CL gun soon. Shimanto/ply/SanD in W15.

rain vine
#

san diego wants a dd gun

dusty gulch
#

hmm true

whole crypt
#

you could craft 1 more plymouth gun for shimanto, or if the proto shop prints are still there you already have 2 guns total

#

the difference is just the biggest with Plymouth because she has 3 mounts

#

if you mean this gun that's guichen gun

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and it's pretty much fine to use still, if I remember correctly it's the best gold CL gun just that it's limited

dusty gulch
#

yeah i just have 1 of those. is this one bis on SanDiego?

whole crypt
#

I don't actually have the numbers on hand whether that or either of the rainbow guns will be better, but it's good enough

whole crypt
#

I've never heard it being fixed, ask the testers and miners

#

just to be clear she's still plenty potent even with said "bug"

#

but if fixed she'll likely prefer the fast guns much more

dusty gulch
#

Not sure. Didn't seem to make a big difference between those 2 guns. above.

#

in terms of total damage.

hollow gust
#

There is a fat difference between Sandy using that gun and the rainbow ones

bright lion
#

How does one get all stars in operation siren?

#

I ask mainly because I don't know what the siren devices or secrets are about

rain vine
whole crypt
#

sandy has fairly good gun damage and as it stands with the barrage "bug" the 113 doesn't spam it enough compared to just doing raw gun damage

#

if I remember correctly even rainbow twin 100 is fast enough to have that bug though

whole crypt
#

fleets won't do that on auto

bright lion
#

The ones with roman numbers?

#

Or the ones that need the purple battery like thing?

whole crypt
#

yes those

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you don't actually have to spend anything, the game just checks when you walk onto one and you can pick to do nothing with it

#

data logging towers you can just smash them for loot
scanning device you can choose whatever you prefer

bright lion
#

And are the siren fortresses worth clearing?

whole crypt
#

strongholds are your largest source of tokens

#

unless you mean the abyssals, which are a major source of tokens, gold plates and lab materials

#

for most part if it has a special icon or overlay on the world map, clear it

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you waste less clearing everything than picking the wrong things to skip

bright lion
#

And how to get the files stuff? They stopped appearing in the restart shop a while ago

whole crypt
#

classified loggers don't restock

bright lion
#

Sad

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Anyway, thanks bro

hidden pasture
#

I finished rtf portland and unicorn, should i rtf saratoga or helena next?

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Or z23🤠❓

elfin hollow
#

Should I used this?

strong tartan
#

only really use it if you're low on time

#

you can use it but not only does it drain oil fast it drains morale just as fast

elfin hollow
#

ohhh. So only at the end of the event?

strong tartan
#

only if you forget the event was going on and just logged in on the last few days of the event

elfin hollow
#

ook

rotund narwhal
#

is moskva good for the weak players

onyx flame
#

really only use heclp if your super short on time NurnNom since it also consumes double the morale

strong tartan
drifting patio
onyx flame
#

if you dont have a lot of ur in general esp ur bbs, i would highly consider saving the bulins for soyuz instead since she's rerunning soon ™ NurnNom

fleet marten
#

This Current Event lasts for 2 weeks right?

glossy iron
#

Is making a club more worth it than looking for a club and praying they check?

untold sierra
#

I just realized I misspelled some things; my reason for starting this game was character design, etc.

late flame
glossy iron
spark moth
#

do I prioritize Moskva or Shinano's limit break?

late flame
#

..depends on what URs do you have, and how many UR bulins you can muster.

mossy stratus
#

how long does it take for a skin to get a rerun

onyx flame
#

depends but you can definitly expect it to get rerun with their event after 2 years typically, or black friday which ever comes first NurnNom

fleet marten
#

For it to go Black Friday, it ranges from A few Months to a year right? I do remember that Last Black Friday their limit of rerun Skins are Pre Lion Event?

rain bobcat
#

its always everysingle event before CN anniversary event inclusive

#

if skin release date <= cn anni of same year then it will rerun

iron berry
#

Are research ships from 8 much better than 7 or is it more an utility thing? When can we say there starts to be powercreep between research seasons? I was wondering because I love Nakhimov and have been concentrating on research 7 ignoring 8 all that time

rain bobcat
#

personal preference

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because of moskva it is now completely personal preference

iron berry
#

Nice

hidden pasture
#

Should i awaken unicorn and portland

supple verge
#

can someone explain how to chapter 15 boss debuff works?

inner delta
hidden pasture
#

120

inner delta
#

Yea go to 120

hidden pasture
#

Okey

rain bobcat
#

its like 40% though instead of 50%

whole crypt
#

it's a bit more than that

rain bobcat
#

and it only applies when ur fighting a boss fleet while carrying the debuff

#

mob fleets dont matter

supple verge
#

so for 15-4 is it possible to fight the first and third boss fight with the main boss fleet and mob fleet against the second?

rain bobcat
#

yes

whole crypt
#

ammo is 50% damage debuff
the boss debuff is 30% more damage taken and 30% less damage dealt

rain bobcat
whole crypt
#

if anything it's the "30% more damage taken" part that's the problem

supple verge
#

so alternating is the best way to counter it?

#

thank you

#

i was planning to run 15-4 boss with soyuz nakhimov and moskva as the core once shes done

whole crypt
#

there's no particular bonus doing that besides Nakhimov getting freezes on her airstrikes

#

Nakhimov is better deployed as a support carrier anyway

supple verge
#

so is there a better main fleet configuration?

whole crypt
#

part of it is that you want to stagger main fleet attacks so it's not like Nakhimov's freeze benefits the rest of the fleet

#

just check the ch15 guide on stig's site I don't remember what I used back then

scarlet cosmos
#

do i use fast torps on yukikaze or is it okay to use long reload ones (533 quint magnetic torp)

noble pawn
#

Do Georgia with UW outdamage heavy than NJ?

exotic sorrel
#

I got an SR ship right while I was trying to 3* 6-4

#

Is she any good to use? Especially her retrofit?

tulip tinsel
#

No

fresh crater
#

Rekomendasi line up

elfin hollow
#

should I Used everything on grobe?

noble pawn
elfin hollow
#

@sweet delta So If I remember. You said buy
5 + 10 this month
20 + 20 next month
0 + 20 next next month.
I buy 5 for series 6 and 10 for series 3. (I might have do it backward)
Now I buy 20 for series 6. Haven't buy 3 since I'm trying to get it more at the end of the month
So the next next month. I should get Series 3 or series 6?

#

also how do I get more of this ticket

wary hawk
#

Comissions

elfin hollow
fresh crater
elfin hollow
elfin hollow
#

is it true that you cannot get Bremerton even spending 400 wisdom cubes in heavy construction? is the ship that rare of a pull? if you wanted to pull Bremerton TODAY, what is the best way to do so?

late flame
#

Dream oh ya forgot war archive exists

onyx flame
#

get her from war archive rather trying to pull if you really want her

elfin hollow
late flame
#

save your cubes and coins..she isnt worth

elfin hollow
#

it seems bremerton is not available in war achives?

late flame
onyx flame
#

is that ai NimiWat

late flame
#

smh using ai

elfin hollow
#

my goodness, 60times on war achives! you get 4 chances per day for war achives!

late flame
#

It is still better than wasting cubes to pull

elfin hollow
#

is bremerton going to get a rerun with rate up annually?

onyx flame
#

she's alr in perma there is no more rerun

elfin hollow
onyx flame
#

NimiWat at least she's in the war archive which is just timegated and guarantee

onyx flame
elfin hollow
onyx flame
#

yuh the point of buying series 3 is to get champ gun (406/50)

elfin hollow
#

And final question. Should I get enterprise from Medal shop to replace saratoga? I also have hood but people said I shouldn't used her

onyx flame
#

i would get enty yes

elfin hollow
late flame
#

Enty = Enterprise (cv)

Yeah she is good.

P.s. not to be confused with the other enterprise (br*ish light cruiser)

Hood probably overshadowed by Alabama WarShrugXmas

elfin hollow
#

Oh. So any one that I can buy from shop can replace Penny?

onyx flame
#

if you got bb medal hull in medal shop get alabama, she's better than hood NurnNom

elfin hollow
#

Ok thanks

late flame
#

never used either (hood/alabama) so i cant really comment kek

iirc, its alabama's augment that boosted her to be better than hood

white agate
#

so... is it comfirmed moskov can sub in well and effectively powercreep soyutz use?

onyx flame
#

she can free nakh from soyuz, the issue is replacing soyuz without breaking another comp like lionmeckzwei

late flame
#

better partner for russian cat yes. Powercreep? Doubtful

strange flame
#

evevn though i have only around 300 cubes, is it still worth trying to roll for sovetsky?

#

when she comes around after this event?

onyx flame
#

soyuz? yea shes gonna have rerun ticket too which is like 44 pulls

strange flame
#

my nakhimov is 12 from dev 30

onyx flame
#

soyuz is still a ur bb NurnNom unless you got better ur bbs instead

strange flame
#

how long is the next UR from soyuz rerun?

onyx flame
#

you can prob expect a new ur in like endish may

late flame
#

aka CN anniversary

wind hazel
#

CL UR dream lives on

mossy stratus
#

am i cooked fellas i have no cubes left, is there a way for me to get cubes or gems?

wind hazel
#

buy them with money

cobalt robin
mossy stratus
whole crypt
#

pray

cobalt robin
hollow depot
#

Guys how do I get this

#

the one that's not the coin

late flame
#

By doing event

onyx flame
#

event mission from clearing event map

hollow depot
#

o ok

elfin hollow
elfin hollow
wind hazel
onyx flame
#

or convert it all it doesnt make too much off a diff

elfin hollow
#

Ok thanks

rapid yoke
#

Was mogador released with alsace?

wary hawk
#

ye

rotund narwhal
#

Is yuudachi really not worth retrofitting

wind hazel
#

it's considered a waste of spcore, better spent somewhere else than on her retrofit

#

to put it in perspective, yuudachi meta is stronger than yuudachi retrofit

wary hawk
#

Worth it for collection

robust onyx
lapis pebble
#

what to buy on meta shop?

exotic sorrel
rotund narwhal
#

I mean

exotic sorrel
#

I think units like Jintsuu meta, Noshiro exists ig

rotund narwhal
#

browhatthefuck I got laffey 2

exotic sorrel
#

Wait doesn't Yuudachi need some kind of special item for retrofitting just like any other Sr's

rotund narwhal
#

yes it does, and the item is in core shop

#

It's eau de barbecue

exotic sorrel
#

Ehhhh I bought the ones for Warspite and Sandiego

robust onyx
#

All SR retrofit require an item

rotund narwhal
#

Even the dumbsex

wind hazel
#

yuudachi isnt a torpedo ship is she MutsukiHyperStare

wind hazel
#

dd can be gun ship, torpedo ship, or hybrid

rotund narwhal
#

and how can I even tell

wind hazel
#

the skillz

rotund narwhal
robust onyx
#

She is a hybrid

wind hazel
rotund narwhal
#

and what about willy dih

wind hazel
robust onyx
rotund narwhal
#

what skills are a giveaway for either type of DDs

onyx flame
#

yuudachi post retro becomes more of a gunboat doesnt she NurnNom

robust onyx
#

Hybrids usually have skills that like both skills that are Torpedo and gun related

rotund narwhal
#

Ah

robust onyx
#

Yuudachi prior to retrofit was more Torpedo focused

rotund narwhal
#

so willy dih is torp

woven star
#

WdP wants fast torps but I wouldn't call her torp ship

#

Iirc she has 2 skills scale from fp and 1 from trp

whole crypt
#

technically wouldn't WdP want torps that time correctly with your main fleet

#

for bossing at least

onyx flame
#

she wants fast if shes mobbing but yea

rotund narwhal
woven star
#

AoE scales from fp and 2 gun hit barrage from fp too. Otherwise her torp skill barrage scale from trp. Iirc

woven star
#

AoA sry last skill i forgot name

rotund narwhal
#

Yeah all out assault

#

and from what I see laffey 2 is a gun ship

woven star
#

Anyway even fasters torp hard to synch for bbs

whole crypt
#

ideally wouldn't you just use something close to 20s to use with kear/yt2/lx2

woven star
#

True. Yeah need to see whole fleet and cds

rotund narwhal
#

am I cooked

whole crypt
#

just saying for WDP's ideal boss case

woven star
#

unless manually tryhardEssexWheeze

whole crypt
#

and honestly if you're not sure or don't have a good comp you can't go wrong with quad mags

onyx flame
#

as long as your using wdp in a bossing context, you want to sync her torps with your mainline regardless of what comp you use NurnNom

rotund narwhal
robust onyx
#

She uses her skill when main fleet attacks

rotund narwhal
#

Ah

onyx flame
#

makes it so her torp launchs at the same time as your mainline fires/planes take off so that they can make use of the the buff she gives when launching torps

rotund narwhal
whole crypt
#

or you just find a torp that reloads close to but just ahead of your main fleet

elfin hollow
#

what does expanding the dorm space do? when can i expand to floor 2? the space is bigger but still can only field max 6 ships

rotund narwhal
robust onyx
#

3 spaces plus 2nd floor is the recommendation

rotund narwhal
#

You can only expand to floor 2 if you complete building floor 1 I think

onyx flame
wind hazel
#

domain expansion

rotund narwhal
#

do cowpens and unicorn go well together

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as healer meRN

mossy stratus
whole crypt
rotund narwhal
honest laurel
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Question : how long does it usually takes to grind 400 cubes ? are the rest period between major UR events enough time to get a pity ?

whole crypt
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the guarantee is 168 a month

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you usually hit around 200 each month after adding in commissions

exotic sorrel
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What's up with this Helena Retrofit "issue" where it's a lot harder to synchronize BB's with her compared to CVs

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Can't I just do manual instead

onyx flame
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if you give her sg radar post retro it mvoes her radar scan forwards by 4 secs

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simple solution is just remove the radar if your backline is slower NurnNom

mossy stratus
onyx flame
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you got 6 days to get lucky NurnNom

late flame
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Its also not advisable (having done so myself) to whale for cubes as it is poor value for money

onyx flame
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~~i too need to get lucky cause im at 170 and no moskva PortDoll ~~

woven star
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Ups. Something gone wrongEssexWheeze

soft raft
exotic sorrel
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Ohh is it?

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But what's with some players complaining about the "synchronization" thing in auto?

woven star
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usually it's about torps

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some skills use torps activation like Agir or WdP. you can choose different torps or just lower his upgrades to slow down (smthing like 8-9 instead of 10+)

wind hazel
nocturne glade
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is there any point of raising lusty for w15 supp fleet? It seems like Fritz, Implac and Hwah Jah retro all have more fighters

wind hazel
nocturne glade
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I see, ty!

late flame
exotic sorrel
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Is it worth getting Monarch's augment thing

late flame
mossy stratus
wind hazel
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just gamba

exotic sorrel
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Ouhh alright that's good Monarch and SanDiego's are considered really good so imma get them, I think I'll get Monarchs fiest

frigid relic
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Can someone help me build a team for main story stage, am on stage 10-3. Thank you.

river junco
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You should be able to just brute force to w12 by leveling your ships and equipping decent gear, based on what you currently have leveled maybe something like
Oumi, Owari, Perseus - Eugen, Hatsuzuki, Unzen

river junco
woven star
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I would Owary, Hakuhou,Perseus (?). Unicorn will be better as third slot

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Ruy Lion (if you have augment) and Yukikaze (when you'll get augment too) in some near future when you reach chapter 12 for second fleet

frigid relic
woven star
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Guild shop

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Who said Kear isn't meta EssexWheeze for 14-4H bossbut yeah Mecklenburg better

wraith pendant
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any good USS Torp bomber for Independence before Wyvern ? Something I could use on someone else if needed ?

whole crypt
whole crypt
rotund narwhal
whole crypt
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if you're guaranteed 168 each month unless you just dump cubes willy nilly you're guaranteed to get 400 cubes in 3 months

stoic horizon
whole crypt
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the USS TBs are shit in general yeh, just give Independence a wyvern if you can

wraith pendant
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So it's better to sacrifice the 15% efficiency to slot an overall better torp bomber from another faction ?

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don't have that, but I'll just use something else in the meantime, thanks

whole crypt
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baraccudas

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or breguets

stoic horizon
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Breguets gave Intercept right?

wraith pendant
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I already have a breguet, would a second one be a waste ?

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What about the VIT-2 ? I don't have one and it might (might) be better for my account to diversify, no ?

stoic horizon
wraith pendant
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I'm in no rush anyway, I'd rather save up for something that is a real upgrade, and I'm far away from crafting my first Wyvern anyway

wraith pendant
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Mode change

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I already have Ju-87 and a Ruysei, so that would be a 3rd acceptable torp bomber for when I'll line up 3 CVs

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they all look quite similar to me, so I figure I'd just craft one of each

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unless it's completely silly

north gorge
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Ending up with two of each of the main torp bombers is pretty common later on when you need to care about timing, so getting one of each is prefectly fine

wraith pendant
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So I should aim to have 2 for each of these, at some point ?

north gorge
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eventually yes, you don't need to make extras until you have a use for them

woven star
stoic horizon
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Note that those are converging so they're better for single-target, Wyvern is best for mobbing (idk about Spearfish)

wraith pendant
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Yeah I finally understood that differnce, but thanks for the reminder 🙂

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well I don't need a new one now, I have Ju-87 and Ryusei, and only Independence and Cowpens to equip

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but since I've had good rng for plane crafting mats ... oh well I'll just hold on to them for now, since I don't need a new plane now

woven star
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looks like you want for mobing. breguets good as ppl said. or cheap baraccudas

wraith pendant
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I could always craft a second Breguet, I'd have use for 2 in the same fleet

stoic horizon
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I would buy it from the core shop, cheaper than crafting

woven star
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you can buy it from shop

wraith pendant
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and given I won't have enough rainbow mats to craft a wyvern before ... I don't know, 3 months ...

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yes I bought the first one for cores, but I'm 25-ish cores shy of the La-9

woven star
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it's different shop coins...isn't?

stoic horizon
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Quite sure Breguet is using Hard Mode currency and La-9 is with the analyze stuff

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(Breguet purchase)

wraith pendant
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oh right !

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Then comes the next question, since I'm contemplating buying a second type 1 AP shell from this shop

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I guess it all comes down to usable now vs usable in 3 weeks when I have FDG and Musashi

stoic horizon
wraith pendant
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Montlhy core income should cover both anyways, they aren't that expensive, so I don't have to choose

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just checked

stoic horizon
wraith pendant
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I already have a firecrest saved up for that 🙂

undone plover
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With table added only do that if u have spare core data
U dont need the wyvern that fast

rotund narwhal
whole crypt
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also depending on how quickly you start getting momentum in OS you could very possibly get more mileage out of crafting wyvern from a lower plane and saving the cores for other stuff in core shop

clear harbor
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If I have enough BPs to Dev30 all the PR8 ships and want to get more Meck guns, do I prioritize Q research over D now? Or are BPs still worth collecting for future fate simming or core currency?

undone plover
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Prio Q
Occasional G
U will still get a lot of pr prints
And save your pr8 selectors from events if u can get them
Will be enough for fate sim
And DR are likely to get coin up before Fate Sim TorricelliSad

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Basically do gear focus here

exotic sorrel
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I got my 4th UR BULIN now I just have to decide who to MLB between Moskva Ulrich and Musas Thinkpitz

elfin hollow
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What to do with two or more copies of meta ships? Like gangut meta

ivory pawn
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The second copy got turned into a crystal you can use to limit break the original.

clear harbor
undone plover
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Yes

whole crypt
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most relevant ones at this point at least

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most UR BBs are slower than this

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this is at 18 RLD tech, if that is really an issue then just dial it back to 15 or 12
it's also based on a set of oathed BBs so if you're not oathing them the gap is less too

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never mind that folks who have that much tech can also just ignore helena

woven star
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HelenaYan another one ignoring Helena

desert tapir
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Just got Moskva. Am I missing something or does her kit seem kinda... week compared to other ultra rare CAs?

sweet delta
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the 8s barrage is decently strong

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but the stats and skill stat buffs just make her a statstick yes, she just tanks and does damage

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and enables nakhimov

desert tapir
sweet delta
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but don't mistake it, this stat stick is meta

desert tapir
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I wouldn't be surprised. In this game the Weakest UR is still a monster. Do we no if shes main story or Ops Siren yet from the testers( Who are way more number orirented then I am and I have deep respect for)?

sweet delta
desert tapir
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Best Start Grinding I suppose

grave cove
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I was looking at the eHP chart. What does (Fate) mean?

stray crane
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quick question when is the next double gems reset

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aug ?

sweet delta
grave cove
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Ah gotcha ty

supple verge
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how much harder is chapter 16 vs 15?

sweet delta
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Warshrug if you have 100% three star win rate in 15 then you might have 70% in 16. If you have 50% three star win rate in 15 then maybe 1% in 16

non-three star 16 is quite easy

desert tapir
exotic sorrel
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What tier would San Francisco fall in purely PVE?

woven star
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waifu tier

exotic sorrel
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Ykw nvm I'll just stick to my Roon and Moskva 💔💔

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I'm also kind of considering Algerie since I don't have much CAs

ocean terrace
inland shoal
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Definitely don't do Alge though, she's not good

forest palm
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that list is predicated on late game, which is very small in scope, and you can make most ships work outside of that content ShiWoke

hard dock
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What's the armor type of D3 sirens and boss PaimonThink

wind hazel
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d3 boss is heavy

spark patio
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is Ozornoy strong

hard dock
fleet marten
wind hazel
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heard she has a bug too lol

whole crypt
zenith heron
wind hazel
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is that One Piece ending spoiler

whole crypt
cobalt robin
whole crypt
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no single piece of information on ectl should be how you should decide how to choose ships or gear, besides the newbie tips which is basically the same thing as is on ecgc

forest palm
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ECTL's tiering isn't all that helpful

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also it's always annoying to correct people on ECTL's gear rec ShiWoke

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the tiering itself was lazy, it generalized by hull type rather than trying to assume by role, and their only real solution was tags which fine on the surface, but useless if you can't compare across hull to get a broader view sayuwuNom

whole crypt
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the problem is they made themselves about "generic" use and stopped being a good reference for OS and ch14+

forest palm
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I'd say even for a casual player it was more harmful that helpful in the end LaffeyDrink

whole crypt
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but then ships are tiered by use in their completed state which basically doesn't happen till at least ch9 or 10

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it made no account for accessibility or "viability in specific content"

forest palm
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that they said they don't tier based on cost, but Portland being high tiered while Eugen was low tier was hilarious NurnNom

whole crypt
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Portland is t3 I don't think any newbie is looking there and thinking "this should be good for my ch1-12 tank"

forest palm
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ya that was also problematic in its own right

whole crypt
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and good luck raising all the SRs that are packed into the T2+

forest palm
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same could be said for stuff like Penny, NV, and all the good low rarity that can carry to 12

whole crypt
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or even obtaining them to start with

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so yeh, not only is ectl outdated and otherwise slow to update, it simply is not useful anymore

forest palm
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past 2020 it wasn't all that useful

whole crypt
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because OS and basically every rainbow being shoved into T-Ex

forest palm
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more URs that released compounded more problems

whole crypt
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gameplay realities changed, shop revamp and progression favouring push to ch12

forest palm
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kind of funny how they from time to time scoffed at CN Tier list, but it at least did a better job explaining itself

whole crypt
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CN tier list had a clear goal that it was for endgame, and even distinguished between late campaign and OS

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being the middle of nowhere wasn't helpful for any of the recommendations

honest laurel
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Sorry ; not a question but..just wanting to express my disbelief as i have been religiously following slaimuda tier list ever since started playing serious Omegalilwoo

whole crypt
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you're likely not alone on that just don't do it anymore

forest palm
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most certainly not alone, and why it's better to try and educate yourself, there's plenty of resources in this Disc to do that sayuwuNom

honest laurel
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I'll try to do that that ; CN tier list like this are fine right

whole crypt
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tls is another joke

honest laurel
hollow gust