gameplay-help

[soft raft]

D3 is like in the low 100s I think

[whole crypt]

you could try running C but there's no oil cap

[onyx flame]

d3 is alr at 100 typically

[hidden pasture]

alrighty

[eternal basalt]

Yes, but in EN the IP was scrubbed off, like Pizza Hut and KFC

[hidden pasture]

i'll try my best

[eternal basalt]

@kindred arrow @white agate Black Friday does not rerun free event skins

[kindred arrow]

True, but those do get permaed... eventually. When they remember to do it
On that note when's the last time they updated the arcade thingy?

[eternal basalt]

A long time ago... got everything and nearly max credit 😭

When was the last time they added a perma-event

[kindred arrow]

Yup
When it came out I was thinking they'd put freebie skins there moving foward, but guess not lol

[woven star]

~~island ~~

[kindred arrow]

~~ mode for setting your limited phone space on fire for no good reason~~

[eternal basalt]

Disable auto-update for that, save space!

[kindred arrow]

I already did after playing for 5 minutes
I just hate 3D games on mobile in general

[woven star]

~~ I just happy that this mode don't have real connection to original AL. No need to play in~~

[hidden pasture]

wallahi blessed me with chinese costume gurls

how much does those limited skins cost

[jaunty vault]

say alhamdulillah

[hidden pasture]

whats that mean

[eternal basalt]

depends. From 800 to 1700

[woven star]

1300-1680

[hidden pasture]

$?

dirhams?

ahh rubies hell nah

i thought it cost more than 1k$ for a moment

[tulip tinsel]

gems

[eternal basalt]

Megawhale on Black Friday, sure

[woven star]

AL have polite policy about $ so relax. Even skins don't have real impact on gameplay except few one by their bugs

[hidden pasture]

do gems hard to obtain when u f2p, the lny event give me actually kinda much

[woven star]

Maybe 200-300 per year or so

[hidden pasture]

bruh

[eternal basalt]

+900 for 9th birthday

[hidden pasture]

that event alone gave me nearly 2k gems

free skin each year or wha

[woven star]

It's first time story. After that they leave you alone

[eternal basalt]

300 != 2000

[ivory pawn]

You might be mixing some one-time rewards in with the LNY rewards.

[hidden pasture]

maybe

[rain bobcat]

lny is 300 max

[hidden pasture]

my memory sucks

[hidden pasture]

alrighty, maybe newbie mission or sth

[rain bobcat]

generally you get around 1500 max per year without paying

[hidden pasture]

bro have his name literally a link

let me try clickin

[rain bobcat]

Yes I am a guide maker

[hidden pasture]

🫡

[undone plover]

What is the doompostcrafting consensus on moskva

[eternal basalt]

You also get 200 per mandatory update of about 10GB

[rain bobcat]

I will update for this event within 12hrs

[hidden pasture]

[rain bobcat]

dead as hell maybe

tanky, has russian slow but nothing else very useful

[undone plover]

I see
She didnt have buffs right?
Her skills were too yappy I cba to read

[onyx flame]

she helps feel nakh from soyuz but not much fleet stuff

[eternal basalt]

Russian slow = Happy Nyakanov

[rain bobcat]

unless she has giga damage shes just russian slow+as tanky as anchorage

[undone plover]

I will take it

[hidden pasture]

WE ACTUALLY HAVE INTERACTIVE SKINS?

rahhhhhhhhhh

[rain bobcat]

hope CN anni isnt a shit update

[ivory pawn]

+5 AA circle range was the notable thing alongside two crossfleet barrages, at 8s and 16s.

[woven star]

skins which burns my Radeon on PC

[rain bobcat]

shes just gonna be another opsi crossfleet sacrifice for me

was her personal AA even good?

[opaque galleon]

No

[undone plover]

Oh i saw some discussion about that true

[rain bobcat]

the aa range is useless if she has average aa

[hidden pasture]

should this comp carry me til late mid game

[ivory pawn]

There’s also some thing that helps keep the vanguard alive by directing more damage to herself if the others would die, but it didn’t sound that useful to me.

[onyx flame]

399AA at 135% eff

[undone plover]

Yeah but can upgrade with medal shop BB and CV if u have

[rain bobcat]

im out of touch in aa capability so idk if that's above avg or not

[muted wind]

the AA certainly doesn't look awful, but i do wonder how much 5 range will do in practice even if the overall fleet AA is good

[rain bobcat]

was it 5 range for everyone?

[woven star]

Complete Uni and Portland next when get their level. Unicorn strong ship

[onyx flame]

all i rmb is seeing that is kinda like z52 aa ish maybe (might be hallucinating)

[rain bobcat]

5 units is quite big

[muted wind]

... i figured +5 AA circle range meant the final value, not just her own gun

[rain bobcat]

if its that then yeah 5 units is quite big

[ivory pawn]

Whatever this means. (Someone said yes.)

[rain bobcat]

its the diff between those twin guns and a roomba

[muted wind]

if it's just her own gun, that would be pretty pointless. well, would still ~1 unit overall then

[hidden pasture]

wym get their lv

[muted wind]

either way, that's more so auto consistency than... better performance?

[rain bobcat]

could technically mean better performance if enough rld

you could maybe fire one more time on a single enemy plane

problem is 16-4 doesnt exactly have many planes

[soft raft]

raising their levels

[rain bobcat]

and 15-4 is a walk in the park

[woven star]

Unicorn final ~~modernization ~~ retrofit at level 90 ship. She'll get preload then

[hidden pasture]

complete uni and portland means full retrofit them?

[hidden pasture]

i see

im out of fuel tho, maybe it will take sometime

[wary timber]

W13 is annoying me but not for the planes.. rather... its my fuel usage

[hidden pasture]

[boreal wagon]

it does

[eternal basalt]

When an event STARTS?

[rain bobcat]

quite massive buff to range then

[muted wind]

moskva's kit just seems broadly weird. skill 2 does nothing without other np ships, skill 1 makes her tankier against basically just bosses, skill 3 is the AA circle thing, enemy AA debuff, and what looks like it's pretty decent damage. overall not sure how to feel about her

[rain bobcat]

tries to do to many things at once

[woven star]

What's lenght of vertical screen side? I mean in AA range terms

[hidden pasture]

as a newplayer we only reside on what the game give, not what our academy things gave since its like a drop in the ocean

[boreal wagon]

i mean she does have a permanent speed debuff on both her barrage and crossfleet that does activate nyak

[rain bobcat]

she just ends up being an above average unit because of it

[hidden pasture]

btw i need to push my ships lv tho ;;;

also my incapability to foreseen that an event is coming :b

[kindred arrow]

Don't worry too much about it, the real bottleneck of fully retrofitting isn't oil, it's blueprints anyway

[eternal basalt]

That... is what the game gives? :

[soft raft]

Out of curiosity, how's Moskva's damage lookin to be like compared to the top DPS CAs?

[hidden pasture]

what it usually come from missions tho, the academy things gave ab 1k a day?

[muted wind]

oh, yeah, that is permanent. didn't notice. i guess nakhi finally can get her full potential easily.

[hidden pasture]

more or less

[placid loom]

academy is an important source of oil

[undone plover]

Honestly niche units are better for the health of the game imo
Moskva being better than everyone else and also a nakhi buffer would be too much

[soft raft]

Yop lol
Funny how this happens when Soyuz rerun was announced

[hushed delta]

I'm checking the mine, how can you say 399AA is bad? spreading misinformation y'all

[eternal basalt]

That's more than missions, but yeah, they are nice (not dor Europeans though )

[muted wind]

it's not bad, but it's not really worth noting anymore

[undone plover]

Tbf they said average
Not bad

[hidden pasture]

i see

[soft raft]

Raw stats is only part of the equation
Tho then again she has only 1 AA Mount with like 135% EFF which iirc is on the lower end or at most somewhere in the middle

[hidden pasture]

my oil capped is 5k?, and the academy is 1k2 capacity so the most i can stored is 6k2 tho, i havent got anything from the mail

[muted wind]

yeah, exactly, raw stats are only part of the equation. the other are AA buffs that she has none of either

[rain bobcat]

its pretty much just above average and nowhere near exceptional

[soft raft]

Your actual resource caps are 25k oil and 600k gold
whatever other number you see is your resource cap before you can no longer claim resources from academy

[placid loom]

oil you get though the mail is banked upto 400k i think

[hidden pasture]

👽 doesnt that mean i cant store more than that if i only rely on the academy?

[hollow gust]

It's 2026, stats haven't been end all be all since forever

[hidden pasture]

some big number idk

[placid loom]

you should be spending oil playing event maps to get commander xp for progressing the main story and event tokens for gear and stuff

once you get to chapter 12 then you can grind 12 for coins + xp

during events its still more important to grind those event tokens though

[woven star]

400 AA is not so much. Idk why they afraid to make UR CL with good AAstats

[hidden pasture]

should i just start a new account lol

[soft raft]

You'd have to claim mail resources and the free weekly pack to go above that cap

[hidden pasture]

hmm alrighty i'll try to remember that

[eternal basalt]

You waste 300 gems. cny is over

[hidden pasture]

maybe mistakes honed us

i'll try to be more efficient somehow

[kindred arrow]

There's no mistake bad enough to brick your account so dw

[placid loom]

the goal is basically just get commander xp until like 80ish so you can prog up to 12/ops, then do 12 for shipyard/gold farming, ur gacha for ships, and prog opsi for gear

[boreal wagon]

well scrapping hedgehog comes close

[soft raft]

was about to say that lol

[wary hawk]

Absolute worst case your early game will be slowed down significantly
But it all averages out once you hit ch 12 ish

[muted wind]

actually, is moskva's skill all damage reduction or just shelling?

[boreal wagon]

which of the 3

[muted wind]

oh, skill 1

[rain bobcat]

the 15% thing is shell only iirc

[boreal wagon]

i assume you mean the frost stuff?

[muted wind]

yeah, exactly

[kindred arrow]

Once eldkai retro item gets perma that particularly egregious mistake will be much mitigated

[muted wind]

datamine just says 15% in the translated text, but the CN seems to specify it's shelling so i gotta ask

[rain bobcat]

is double purple even equal to 1 hedge?

[boreal wagon]

should be just shelling

[muted wind]

well that's... not as good as sounded initially then. welp

[rain bobcat]

if it was all sources she would be tankier than napoli on avg

but rn it just makes her anchorage level

[boreal wagon]

well yes and no considering u can have 2 (or even 3 if you count ham2) if you dont scrap it

[muted wind]

i guess most damage is shelling anyways so it's still good

[hidden pasture]

will i earn coins much itf, im in coins shortage fr

[placid loom]

pre 12 best bet is just farm event stages on hard, post 12 is spam 12-4 or later if you can for coins

[eternal basalt]

Since you're chapter 7, no

[hidden pasture]

hell nah

[boreal wagon]

its 3 away from hedges min damage and nowhere near average or max
(a single one that is)
(and that is only if hedge is +10)

[placid loom]

don't even consider farming main story for coins until chapter 9

[fast frigate]

is moskva good

[soft raft]

Anyone?
I noticed compared to Hinden she has 5% higher Mount eff, same # of MGM, but like 30 less FP stat

And if I'm reading the wiki correctly, Hinden has like 5-10% higher damage buff

[white agate]

so... a bench ur?

[muted wind]

hinden effectively has 3 mgm, what are you on about

[wary hawk]

Depending on how far in the future you're talking, you'll have more coins than you know what to do with. In your position though it's a massive bottleneck

[soft raft]

Her biggest thing is she essentally has a perament slow
so you dont need to bring Soyuz

[frank phoenix]

Let me iiiiin

[soft raft]

Oh yeah I forgot to account for that for some reason 💀

[frank phoenix]

Ur worth pulling or we don't know yet?

[soft raft]

#maintenance-channel go whine there instead

[muted wind]

actually i guess moskva's secondary DD gun makes up for the mgm deficit...? hm.

[soft raft]

Always pull for new gacha UR
Better to have it and not need it than the other way around

[soft raft]

100% Eff and 1 mount tho

[frank phoenix]

Well, normally yeah,but with Soyuz rerun coming up and me having 250 cubes atm it's kinda difficult

[soft raft]

Soyuz rerun will have build tickets

[white agate]

also probably soyuz benched since now naki can use moskov?

[soft raft]

And if you're aiming to use Nakhimov, Moskva will be better than Soyuz at proccing her freeze

[muted wind]

yeah i guess she still misses out on overall gun efficiency, and the damage buffs will be in hinden's favor. but i guess the damage should still be good

[hidden pasture]

does build thirce a day and not throw everything for UR an option? i think i'll find a decent ssr in ab 50 pulls or sth

[opaque galleon]

Build once a day except for UR events

[hidden pasture]

or it not worth the pulls

[hidden pasture]

we going to have ur event tmr right

[soft raft]

if you're really broke, I'd prob just do 1 event build per day then go all in at the end if you still havent gotten the UR by that time

[opaque galleon]

In 10 minutes

[kindred arrow]

Not tomorrow, in 10 minutes actually

[soft raft]

(Assuming there's no maint extension)

[muted wind]

(well, predownload is up, so hopefully all is well )

[boreal wagon]

i mean not really better just that is involves a lot less thought and allows a diffent backliner and backliner gear

[hidden pasture]

its tmr for me

[eternal basalt]

23:50?

[hidden pasture]

yeah

[soft raft]

Yeah
Not bad for a mostly utility CA i suppose

I'm also pretty intruiged by her skill 2 since that sounds like a new version of that Manjuu repair team aux

[rain bobcat]

hinden also pierces shields which is a big thing

[rain bobcat]

only works if theres other russians though

[boreal wagon]

so does moskav with the right equip

[opaque galleon]

You can trade z52 and soyuz for moskva and Lion. The buffs are a bit less but could be worth.

[eternal basalt]

Green cat is pretty much teamed up

[placid loom]

yeah but is she going to die though

[boreal wagon]

if your nyak is close to dying you have other issues

[hidden pasture]

isnt the daily event is 3 pulls per day? or 1 idk

[eternal basalt]

Hmmm, doesn't work for self?

[muted wind]

admittedly, moskva also does that if she has any NP equip

[opaque galleon]

You get a few extra event points for doing that but not much else

[soft raft]

yes there's the daily mission but it's not really worth it imo
esp if you're low on cubes, I would not do that just for the event points it can give

[eternal basalt]

I would

[hidden pasture]

alr

[muted wind]

considering the conditions, nope. so skill 2 does nothing if she's the only np ship

[brave canyon]

I say go all in on rolls, odds aren’t too bad you get both even if you’re starting low on cubes

[boreal wagon]

even if there is another np ship if she dies first she just dies

[whole crypt]

yeh s2 isn't particularly useful

[muted wind]

also, honestly, if any ally takes fatal damage, things are already pretty bad

[rain bobcat]

16-4 nuke

[frank phoenix]

Musashi RNG xD

[whole crypt]

if you're taking NP ships to 16-4 just to see Moskva proc then we have other problems

[eternal basalt]

Musashi is not NP though

[muted wind]

actually does that skill even prevent allies from sinking after the initial negation? i guess 20% reduction and 80% redirection is supposed to do achieve that?

[whole crypt]

im most cases Moskva shouldn't proc even if you bring NP ships

[rain bobcat]

when will we get a UR healer that heals the entire fleet per airstrike

[soft raft]

Unircorn retrofit 2

[eternal basalt]

Says after 8s they DED

[whole crypt]

yes

[muted wind]

oh the CN text just says "damage is reduced and transferred to moskva", so yeah, it does prevent death... for the 8s.

[hidden pasture]

lesgo

[opaque galleon]

Oh her barrages are quite good actually no?

[whole crypt]

let's face it even if the fight ends in 8s after it procs if it's your mob fleet and it's not the last mob fight, you're screwed anyway

[eternal basalt]

It's just to give less dmg to moskau

[whole crypt]

it'll work if it was your boss fleet or the last mob fight

[muted wind]

yeah the datamine translation was just awkward to me

[whole crypt]

but 10% heal isn't going to save the fleet for another fight

[elfin hollow]

So yeah. I'm a return player. Which unit I should get atm?

[boreal wagon]

i did just tell thorin his edit might be a tad misleading

but yes the Undying ship takes 0 dmg and moskva 80% of the total (the 20% refers to that)

[muted wind]

i suppose we'll have the official english translation in a moment anyways

[boreal wagon]

we already do
my stuff is updated

[soft raft]

We have new UR today
would've been 3 mins agao but it appears that maint got extended

[rain bobcat]

hackerman

[elfin hollow]

aw man. No wonder why I see it end but can't join

[rain bobcat]

did cn have extension?

[stable badger]

MAINTENANCE HAS BEGAN

[kindred arrow]

they forgot to put EN server back online, pack it up everyone

[eternal basalt]

Still maint?

[thorny trench]

i thought it would been finish the maintenance 😭

[whole crypt]

JP went up on time

[crisp wraith]

EN special

[rain bobcat]

did cn have extension though?

jp is different from EN/CN

[eternal basalt]

JP = EN

CN is different

[boreal wagon]

more often than not we receive updates when CN does

JP is the one that does their own thing

but extensions in general are just different

[whole crypt]

JP gets hotfixes separately likely because of office but client wise EN is a chimera of both

for maint... shrug

[crisp wraith]

I got in yippee

[peak fable]

is game up rn?

[crisp wraith]

nvm game out of date

[hidden pasture]

yippe

[kindred arrow]

there's a new download, restart the game

[crisp wraith]

I am now in fr

[eternal basalt]

Maint over

[undone plover]

Good luck on your pulls SKKs

[woven star]

Server up

I like how they ask me about new ships before I even pull them. ~~thx datamine I guess ~~

[turbid marsh]

heard very good comments for the new UR CA

[whole crypt]

tanky, has some utility, can go with Nakhimov but wait for testing

[gloomy shale]

hey guys....anyone knows what fleet tech stat the SSR DD gives?

[red sapphire]

Hi, those are my URs, should I mlb something here before the new one?
(I've been told to ask this here once released )

[spark patio]

should i pull a lot rn or just 3 per day?

[soft raft]

Moskva still needs testing so maybe come back in a couple of days

[whole crypt]

obtain 1FP 120 2HP

[hidden pasture]

someone suggest 3 per day then all out at the end

[balmy skiff]

who to lb with 5-6 URins?
Moscow or Laff2

[whole crypt]

you can "save cubes" by building 3 a day since you need to do daily builds anyway but this means planning out to have more coins towards the tail end if you need to pull hard on the last few days

[undone plover]

Imo possibly Lexington ii
Moskva if u can dev30 nakhimov soon

[soft raft]

Is there anything interesting with the new SRs or nah
including fleet tech

[undone plover]

Moskva if u can dev30 nakhimov
Laffii if u want to clear later chapters like 15 and 16
Or if u have lexington ii and dont have ykii or trafalger

[tulip tinsel]

can the new ur gun be equipped on cb?

[safe nexus]

how to find out what class is moskva?

[crisp wraith]

CA, left of her name

[tulip tinsel]

moskva class

[crisp wraith]

oh

oh that's what they meant

[safe nexus]

when you dont have her

[soft raft]

The only name she had IRL was Project 66
The devs just slapped Moskva on for her name like they do with most blueprint ships that never got made

[safe nexus]

nah you right i have no idea how to address it correctly lol

[safe nexus]

interesting fact, never expected to know this

[crisp wraith]

You can do like
Memento > Archive > Sort, filter by unacquired
Then look at the icon on the top left of the ship

Should be in the patch notes too

[muted wind]

the announcement post also has the hull type, if that's easier to find for you

[safe nexus]

ok thx

[soft raft]

Anyone?

[soft raft]

It should be
but most CBs dont really want CA guns in the first place anyways

[muted wind]

-# *note: guam cannot equip CA guns

[red sapphire]

Imma start researching if can be gold upgraded. Can she?

[tulip tinsel]

pr7 no

[soft raft]

Nope

[safe nexus]

is it really a good idea to get any new UR ship as long i got 400 cubes?

[soft raft]

I mean you have enough to hit pity in the worst case scenario so why not

New UR has always been pog outside of like two outliers (Kron and UvH)

[red sapphire]

Sad

[rain bobcat]

kron and uvh were technically pog for the time

[safe nexus]

idk i feel like it might be bad or i might have a ur ship that does almsot the same?

[whole crypt]

Kronshtadt wasn't that bad on release, she was durable enough while being one of the higher if not highest DPS CB

[turbid marsh]

heard comment saying her stats are insane as in hind level damage with z52 tankiness. but skills are kinda useless

[whole crypt]

UvH just had a strange gimmick but was very good too

[soft raft]

True
they've just aged the worst out of all of them

[turbid marsh]

big stat stick lol

[gloomy shale]

thx bro

[whole crypt]

s2 is useless
s3 is nakhimov crutch

[soft raft]

where did you hear that 💀

[muted wind]

definitely would wait for testing on both fronts.

[rain bobcat]

how much better was mos gun over hind?

[whole crypt]

slightly

[soft raft]

she would be too broken if she was really that good

[rain bobcat]

if its less than 10% im not spending 360 plates

[turbid marsh]

z52 when she first came out:

[whole crypt]

it's less than 10%

[slow hamlet]

her skills are kinda whatever

[rain bobcat]

[whole crypt]

I don't see how a 5% AA debuff and a slow that works with Nakhimov is "whatever"

[keen flower]

the UR good? should i get it

[slow hamlet]

she's ok

[tulip tinsel]

then is it better than hindy gun?

[soft raft]

The slow is the biggest part since that means Soyuz is no longer required for Nahk

Which is pretty huge all things considered

[safe nexus]

is there a guide for moskva? like an explnation for her kit?

[fluid pike]

So, just a question, how good is Moskva all things considered and what role is she playing, just looking for a few tips

[turbid marsh]

slow that works with nakhimov is kinda... well... i like the 5%aa debuff though

[muted wind]

they look... to be about the same honestly? unless there is something i'm missing

[whole crypt]

not when she's been out for less than half a day

[jolly condor]

i might just finish york ii instead of moskva

[soft raft]

not even a hour yet

[whole crypt]

I'm counting CN

[tulip tinsel]

then can i slap it on hindy for 2nd gun bcs i don't have 2 hindy guns

[soft raft]

oh right CN

[safe nexus]

usually a guide or something would be out how long after release?

[whole crypt]

no idea ask people who write guides

[jolly condor]

sometimes like 5 -24 hours

[whole crypt]

like I'm not going to say Moskva is amazeballs but she's definitely better than meh

[safe nexus]

ok

[turbid marsh]

yeah i think moskva is a huge stat sticks, but no new gimmicks. well skill 2 is kinda like a gimmick but not that useful yet

[muted wind]

actually, i guess moskva gun should be slightly higher damage overall, even more so against med, but i dunno if that's a noteworthy increase

[rain bobcat]

mid skin, bottle on the table left of her head shows interactions. im going to sleep and write guide later

[safe nexus]

how to check her kit?

[turbid marsh]

think some cn people calculate stats and she has similar role/stats with z52

[turbid marsh]

think datamine people already posted in somewhere

[slow hamlet]

pins

[kindred arrow]

Quick and dirty guide: climb up to D3 and grind that, do SP once a day, repeat until 55k/gotten everything worthwhile on shop

[soft raft]

That's not the guide he was looking for

[muted wind]

i don't think the problem with moskva rn is "we don't know what she's good at" and more so "we need testing to see if we're right"

[whole crypt]

mebot has her eHP at around Anchorage level, at least tentatively, which should be way above Z52

[safe nexus]

whats so dirty about it 😭

[kindred arrow]

Whoops, is it the building minigame then?

[elfin hollow]

So for newbie, which abnner I should pull?

[placid loom]

guide for ur ship

[slow hamlet]

the one with the moskva on it

[safe nexus]

just the chracter itself like an explanation

[turbid marsh]

oh yes, i meant damage wise, ehp should be higher than z52 by a margin

[soft raft]

What's the fleet tech for the new ships?

[rigid onyx]

5 AA range is good too that's like 30% more aa with crude calcs

[whole crypt]

and Z52 damage is fairly respectable if you consider her potential with nakhimov

[rigid onyx]

(on auto)

[whole crypt]

everything we say here is on auto

[viscid swift]

one of the cruisers was FP, the other 2 were hit, the DD was HP

[rigid onyx]

yeah but aa range on manual doesn't matter but it's second only to alpha AA on auto

so it's just a crazy disconnect

[knotty dome]

does this event have a hotspring morale recovery?

[slow hamlet]

no

[whole crypt]

5 AA range is good for both auto and manual because you don't have to do as much awkward moving to get planes in circle

[soft raft]

Is it Moskva or GangM that had the FP
Tho ig that means easy snooze since GangM is shop and I don't care about the DD

[viscid swift]

Gangut

[turbid marsh]

yes i do agree, think moskov only compete with z52 if the frontline environment is heavy

[boreal wagon]

moskva: hp hit
Ozornoy: fp 2hp
gangutm: hp fp
bogatyr: hp hit
kk: hp fp

[rigid onyx]

am I misreading moskva s3 or will she be a xfleet barrage merchant

[tulip tinsel]

would moskva +5 aa range work for crossfleet xp grinding?

[boreal wagon]

its not a crossfleet effect

[tulip tinsel]

ok

[keen flower]

is moskva better for boss tank than portland/ancho?

[undone plover]

It u can mlb then probably yes

100% better than portland
Ppl saying around anchorage level tank but she will have more dmg for sure so will be better

[whole crypt]

Moskva and Anchorage are way ahead of Portland

[white agate]

portland is shit, basically she is the benchmark of ehp because she is a decently tanky ship to make newbie understand how tanky other ships are

[keen flower]

for new events do i 3* all the stages or just one of A3/C3?

[whole crypt]

one of

[stray cobalt]

Does Gouden Leeuw prefer CA guns to CB guns?

[onyx flame]

the only cb gun she can equip is 283mm ones so preferable CA guns

[whole crypt]

if you have a spare hindenburg gun she can use that
if not use her own gun
if not still then just use whatever

[little tree]

Who should I mlb next ?

[whole crypt]

you forgot her own gun

[onyx flame]

i mean isnt it 283mm as well?

but yea fair

moskva gun coming in as spare instead

[whole crypt]

I wouldn't really give her moskva gun unless you're not using any other CAs with decent damage

[hidden pasture]

I jusst got saratoga should i try mlb her to replace lexington

[undone plover]

yes if u dont have many better CV

saratoga is a good mid-game option

[wind niche]

Is moskva any good?

[whole crypt]

we know she's good we don't know how good

[hidden pasture]

How to get the gold bar or what ever that called in the evnt

The currency next to old coins

[whole crypt]

event stages

[hidden pasture]

Alr

[craggy pecan]

when does the azur lane double gems reset

[onyx flame]

en anniv

[loud scarab]

this event doesn't have a dorm set?

[craggy pecan]

thanks

[faint glacier]

what's the gold map drop for the event? :o

[boreal wagon]

gangut meta

[hot turret]

Great success

[soft raft]

#trophy-room is that way

[hot turret]

I was actually going to ask if she's worth it

Surely data miners already got the stats somewhere

[onyx flame]

oh thats nice

[spark patio]

should i do normal stage?

[south shard]

Weird it's not letting me update...
I'm stuck at checking for update...

Help?

[fast swallow]

So I got max amount of old coins I can get but not enough collected to upgrade to level 8 inn so I can't spend coins. Is there another use for them so I can keep upgrading it?

[boreal wagon]

if that affinity bonus is anything like the affinity bonus of most events it just doesnt work

[whole crypt]

I just slap it on anyway, Moskva still has like 96 affinity to go

[obtuse venture]

hello. anybody got the build times?
edit: for new event

[woven star]

What's armor type boss on EX?

[undone plover]

I am not sure tbh but check your internet
Restart your wifi
Restart your device
Do the usual stuff
Then check #tech-support if still having issues

[undone plover]

Check aldb

[livid wyvern]

is the new SR worth pulling for?

[glass aurora]

This TRP is always an issue for me wanting to do hard mode stuff. How do I increase it?

[south shard]

fixed and got 2 moskva on 20th roll lol

[ivory pawn]

I doubt it, but if you have the cubes can always just pull for collection.

[ivory pawn]

Use more boats with good trp stats. Maybe sneak in some trp auxes where you can.

They’re mostly vanguards, so trp requirements suck.

[viscid swift]

could also just bypass the map by doing it in normal mode and going to the next map which doesn't have torp requiremnets

[glass aurora]

If I change boats I’m just not going to reach the average level requirement. I’ll try the auxes

[soft raft]

The auxes wont really help much to deal with that 300 stat gap

[glass aurora]

Oh, I thought all requirements went up the higher the mission?

[viscid swift]

no, the stat requirements change

[uneven barn]

can i use moskva in nakhimov + soyuz team?

[sweet delta]

You can but why would you

not just kick Soyuz out

[uneven barn]

I just got nakhimov so I didn't build her team yet. I saw nakhimov is always with soyuz or fritz and her having NP dependency, made think soyuz + nakhimov . I don't have Soyuz yet too.

[viscid swift]

do you know why Nahkimov wants to run with Soyuz

[boreal wagon]

well moskava does the slow portion so soyuz becomes optional

[uneven barn]

For slow right?

[viscid swift]

a northern parliament slow, to activate Nahkimov's crit damage buff and root

Moskva can now also fullfill that role

[uneven barn]

Okay so nakhimov and moskva being core. Does that mean Soyuz is out of that team? why? Thought more to slow enemy more power. Am i wrong?

[boreal wagon]

the point is that nyak freezes the enemy with her effect if they were first slowed in any way by an NP slower

there is no point in slowing an enemy whose speed is already 0 any further

[sweet delta]

sasuga creator of the calculator

[undone plover]

Soyuz would be good if u have nothing better
But if u have lion for example running her makes more sense

Or if u can put a carrier buffer and run 3 carriers in backline
Tho probably nothing beats lion

Especially since u need a “BB” anyway for trafalgar

Did kear need USS carrier or soviet also works?

[uneven barn]

Oh got it. So what fleet you guys recommend me to build with nakhimov?

I am really not good at fleet building. so your suggestions are appreciated

[sweet delta]

First of all
You just got nakhimov or you just dev 30 nakhimov?

[undone plover]

Show what UR u have

[uneven barn]

So close to get all the current URs

waiting for Soyuz and Alsace rerun

[uneven barn]

Dev 26

[forest palm]

main problem is your Nakhimov isn't even finished

[uneven barn]

EH?? Dev 30 is a must for her?

[forest palm]

yes, it's akin to MLB, she is missing a huge chunk of her stuff

granted the I assume 225 prints you need should not be the hard to get

[uneven barn]

I'm 136 BP away

[strong tangle]

whats moskva's build time?'

[forest palm]

even better, but ya no main fleet research ship is worth using unless they're Dev 30

[kindred arrow]

4:00
have fun with the Nevada spooks

[uneven barn]

So once I have her at dev 30, then what should be the fleet? I have her priority too so 136 BP will be done sooner

[strong tangle]

💀

[peak fable]

so uh... i kinda got the new ship in one pull, do i even have a reason to keep pulling on the banner or do I go back to light spam?

[nocturne glade]

shouldnt be spamming on normal banner anyways, but yes you can stop

[peak fable]

kk, by spam I meant 1 per day, but yeah, ty

[errant jacinth]

btw how much dock space do y'all have? I keep running out & I'm at 250

[atomic abyss]

850 ish

really the amount of space you need depends on how much you play and how much you really want to keep

[peak fable]

I have 360 rn, but been there, done that, you will have to spend all your excess gems on dock space to not get a headache while playing

[atomic abyss]

strictly speaking you dont really need a dock larger than like 350-ish

[errant jacinth]

ok I'll go to 350 then
ty!

[atomic abyss]

i mean in any case

most of your f2p gems shd be going towards dock space

[frank phoenix]

statistically speaking,in how many builds should i get an ur? XD

[whole crypt]

how many % do you think your "should" is

[atomic abyss]

[viscid swift]

that's probability not statistics but eh

[onyx flame]

200 build for 100% chance

[whole crypt]

probability is a branch of statistics

[errant jacinth]

yeah I just lowkey can't remember how many free gems I have/paid

[atomic abyss]

statistically speaking you're only guaranteed to get a UR after 200 rolls

what do you mean by "should"

[whole crypt]

I think I should get a UR by 1.2% does that mean I should get my UR on the first roll?

[peak fable]

what happens if you get it on the first roll

[atomic abyss]

if you roll like 50x, about 1 in 2 people should have the UR iirc

[whole crypt]

nothing you still keep rolling for other ships on the banner unless you're dumping them

[atomic abyss]

if you roll like 100x, around 87% chance you would have gotten 1 UR

etc etc

[frank phoenix]

yeah,that's what i'm asking. going to 200 builds for the pity UR is just straight up cursed XD

[atomic abyss]

oh did i misremember

oh yeah i did

[whole crypt]

there's no number where you "should" get the UR besides it hitting pity
any number below that there's a chance you don't hit

[errant jacinth]

also for MLB & lvl ships for faction/tech points, is it recommended to get them to lvl 120? or is MLB + lvl 70 usually fine?

[atomic abyss]

specifically for tech point farming, mlb

for fleet tech bonus, 120

[frank phoenix]

that's not how probability works

[atomic abyss]

uh

[whole crypt]

like I said, how many % do you mean by should

[errant jacinth]

what's the difference between the 2? 😭

[sharp comet]

the average

[whole crypt]

that is precisely how probability works

if not for pity it's possible to not hit in 1000 builds, it's just the chance is extremely low

"should" is not a known value

[nocturne glade]

giving harbiter a last try before reset, should I put my raff gun on Lion or Biszwei? Other 2 will be on Champy gun

[wind hazel]

lion

[atomic abyss]

that is how it works tho
without the spark, there is NEVER a guarantee to get a UR from building in this game

[sharp comet]

mori

[wind hazel]

y r u gae

[nocturne glade]

ty!

[sharp comet]

[atomic abyss]

as nnt already said

what is "should"

[whole crypt]

is your should 80%? 90%? 50%?

[atomic abyss]

what confidence level or siginficance level are we talking about here

[wind hazel]

damn you guys really go in full nerd mode about this shit

[sharp comet]

einsteins in the chat

[frank phoenix]

this is how probability work

[whole crypt]

gacha is the only thing I bother remembering about probability and statistics

[atomic abyss]

oh my god

[whole crypt]

do you understand those numbers?

and did you read what it says

[atomic abyss]

"there is no guaranteed number of rolls"

that is literally what i said

[frank phoenix]

yes i do,i asked in how many build SHOULD.

[whole crypt]

do you understand what you're even asking? should is not a value

[wraith pendant]

How hard is this event SP stage ?

[whole crypt]

doable with Unicorn + DDG + crossfleet

[wind hazel]

bro it's pretty obvious he's asking the average. no need to harp on the definition and complicate things what is wrong with you guys

[dark hazel]

brother you're nitpicking his poor english, he very obviously means expected drop rate

[atomic abyss]

you will want level 110+ units as always

[whole crypt]

average is not the same as should

[wraith pendant]

Right, thanks to both of you

[forest palm]

the word is, "likely"

[atomic abyss]

i think the only one that thought his english is poor is you tbh

[whole crypt]

the problem is when you nerd out on probability and statistics "should" doesn't mean anything

[wind hazel]

yuki where are you

[atomic abyss]

and uh, they are the ones who said "that's now how probability works"

[sweet delta]

1 Moskva gun for DPS

[forest palm]

you could certainly say you, "should hit the 1.2% within 200 pulls"

[atomic abyss]

i said sth like that, tho i got the numbers wrong

should be about 70% chance to get a UR in 100 rolls

[frank phoenix]

exactly what i asked for

[wind hazel]

how to read, what's left and right column difference

[atomic abyss]

so i already answered that?

but ultimately what is "should" depends on the person

[frank phoenix]

[sweet delta]

right column is today and left column is yesterday

[frank phoenix]

i mean,u'd assume avrage luck,neither lucky like i saw a guy getting Moskva 1 min after server going up,neither cursed to go to 200 builds

[forest palm]

it says it in what you googled...

[whole crypt]

if you want "average" or "expected" the number of attempts is whatever gets you to 1-1/e the chance, which for the case of 1.2% is 84

[wind hazel]

why is there dps increase for DDs and ship that dont use Mosvka gun? i no undestando

[kind needle]

Should I save my bulins for Moskva or use them to mlb one of em?

[atomic abyss]

hold on first and wait for people to test her

[wraith pendant]

allright SP could be clear without trouble with a standard fleet. Should I clear all encounters in SP stage, or go to boss as soon as it spawns ?

[atomic abyss]

go to boss, there's no 3*

[frank phoenix]

btw,is it worth wasting oil on normal stages? i just did hard ones and doing SP atm

[whole crypt]

said expected value converges to something roughly 63.21%, I'm not sure how "should" that sounds to you

[wind hazel]

more like it's not worth wasting oil on hard stages except d3

[kind needle]

Musashi or FdG on mob flag W14?

[whole crypt]

1 norm a day on bonus with low cost is fine for B1-3 at least

[frank phoenix]

well,had to unlock it 1st

i just did hard clear off the start

[wind hazel]

you should have done A1 to B2, then D3, SP, and you're done

[whole crypt]

if you're not running 0LBs then you can basically forget about the lowcosting though

[kind needle]

Is there any diff when hard clearing vs normal clearing to D3?

[wind hazel]

cheaper on oil

[onyx flame]

you get to save oil by low costing on normal

[sweet delta]

👩‍💻

[frank phoenix]

66 cost atm,on sp/hard stages,not that bad

[wind hazel]

you can reduce that to just 20, or even 4

you even get more points by clearing normal

[frank phoenix]

true,i could just slap in essex and roon,maybe an uni and clear it

[wind hazel]

just unicorn+ddg or any random dd is enough if you can't run 0lb ranger+cassin

[frank phoenix]

will give it a try after clearing them

1st clear is agonizingly long

[wraith pendant]

so clearing B3 is the same as D3 points wise, and saves oil because you can 1:1 it ?

[wind hazel]

it's only more points due to the x3 bonus once daily

[ocean terrace]

do we have clue on the new UR yet or will it take a couple days? (how good it is)

[whole crypt]

0LB CVL/Mahan is 4 oil/fight
0LB CVL/MLB Mahan is 10 oil/fight
on 3x B3 that's still 3+ poins/oil which is not bad

[native spoke]

I have 16 UR Bulis, what should I prio?

[onyx flame]

it take a while for people to test

[whole crypt]

numbers get wonky once you use 2 MLBs though

[ocean terrace]

should still pull though right :D

[wraith pendant]

allright so to get it straight : 1st daily clear should be B3 with 1:1, rest of the daily farm should be D3 ?

[whole crypt]

1:1 B1-B3 with bonus is fair

B1 with x3 is 180, same as a single D3

[wind hazel]

clearing the event for the first time
A1
A2
A3
B 1
B2
B3(optional, daily bonus)
D3
SP

farming the event afterwards

low cost B3 or full fleet D3, SP daily

[whole crypt]

low cost D3 may also be possible

but how low I have no idea

[wind hazel]

annoying and pointless to do at D3, so i never bother

[whole crypt]

I'm not bothering because I'm using it for Moskva's affinity

[frank phoenix]

i'm technicall doing SP mob/mini bosses with essex/non mlb musashi and a lvl 116 le hardi

the other 3 are sub lvl100 xp leeches XD

[whole crypt]

SP I did with Unicorn/Fu Shun + crossfleets

[frank phoenix]

same for d3,couldn't be bothered to switch

[whole crypt]

it has no cap so

I'm not using a full fleet for D3 but that's just me

[frank phoenix]

u guys using fleets? i just pressed advice and go brr XD

[whole crypt]

if I press advice I'd just be getting 0 XP

[frank phoenix]

aight,let's see EX normal

[ocean terrace]

which ones do I need to 3 star?

[onyx flame]

all of em

[wind hazel]

suggest A1 to B3

no need to 3* D3 if you 3* B3

[ocean terrace]

oh right

[forest palm]

what's the tech report?

[wind hazel]

ozor dd hp
moscow ca hit
krazy cl fp
gamgut bb fp
bogyatt cl hit

[red sapphire]

Hi, is Moskva good?

[wind hazel]

UR good

[red sapphire]

What should I mlb next? Now that we have Moskva on the collection

[wind hazel]

how many can you afford

[red sapphire]

I have 4

One on collection two from shop one from the pass very soon

[wind hazel]

idk then, ask suchi or cheeky for better opinion

[sweet delta]

@viscid swift

[wind hazel]

interesting name

[rain timber]

Guys, is there any worthwhile shipgirl in the merit shop rotation at all? 🤔

[sweet delta]

do i spy a laffii?

[red sapphire]

Missed her because university exams stole my time entirelly

I'm sad because I missed her

She's good right?

For now I can keep the URs like that if it's not really clear what to mlb

[sweet delta]

you could wait and see what you need for the content you want to improve in

[red sapphire]

Oki. Can do that yeah. Thanks

[wraith pendant]

oh so there's a chance to drop Gangur Meta from event sorties ?

[strong tartan]

D/B3 and SP

[wraith pendant]

Yeah I just dropped one in D3, never knew that could happen. Guess I'm saving up on points then

[stiff isle]

Is the Greatsword Augment best for Gouden ?

[sweet delta]

https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/augment-modules/

[stiff isle]

Thanks Sushi

[fast frigate]

is moskva good

[strong tartan]

yes per usual but we don't know how good

[soft raft]

Yes
How specifically good? Still pending testing, but currently her most clear use case is being paired with Nahkimov as an essentially permament source of a russian slow to proc her freeze, which is huge for people who want to use Nahk but don't have Soyuz

[glass aurora]

What should i prioritise as a player on their second month?

[knotty jolt]

Gun, chips, tech boxes, prints in that order with coins and oil as you need them for farming

[glass aurora]

The ship not worth getting?

[knotty jolt]

You can push prints before tech boxes if you're focused more on PR

[onyx flame]

honestly i value the boxes over the chips, but that depend on how okay their gear is

[knotty jolt]

Most of the time Meta ships aren't that good enough to be used

Plus if you're lucky on D3 you can get her as a map drop saving you 8k points

So why buy?

[stark quiver]

What about augment mats
Pr8 prints aren’t important for new players
Coins are farmable

[knotty jolt]

I have personally never thought of a need to get them unless you're really desperate

[whole crypt]

your gear needs to be really shit for gear boxes to be worth

[stark quiver]

I also doubt the importance of 10 DR8 bps for a 2 month old account

[glass aurora]

I can farm hardmode D3 but noticed that normal says x3. Should I be farming normal instead until that goes away?

[knotty jolt]

that's only one time clear

[whole crypt]

more rather get the gun and don't think about priority

just farm what you can and come back at end of event because what you can buy is going to depend heavily on how many points you manage to farm

[pine siren]

Im new, got 230 cubes rn, should i try to get the new ship? Idk how many cubes il get during the event so i dont know if ill get to 400

[glass aurora]

What is a good policy for how many coins to use for building? Because if he keep going I'm never gonna have coins to do anything

[whole crypt]

you might not hit 400 cubes but go for it anyway, there's a fair chance you can get the ship without needing pity

[undone plover]

Pull until u get UR if u are new
So max should be 200x1500 coin

But u dont have to go all in in 1 day
Event is 14 days

[whole crypt]

everything you need to get the ship during a banner
outside of relevant banners you shouldn't be pulling anyway

yes if you need pity that means 300k

[pine siren]

Ok thank you

[glass aurora]

I am now poor

[stark quiver]

That’s normal

[glass aurora]

Got two of this thing, nothing else apart from one new elite. Which I assume isn’t worth using

[whole crypt]

just keep grinding for more coins event just started

[tulip tinsel]

who do yall vets use for quick opsi mob clears?

vanguard

[knotty jolt]

I'm personally using collab characters for that lol Ryu Lion and Tohka with Unzen.

[stark quiver]

Z52,ibuki,hinden/harbin

[lyric stump]

which dd has best cross fleet?

[twin bronze]

Willie

[lyric stump]

vanguard in general then?

[red sapphire]

Does Shinano AA debuff count for LexII requirement for freeze? I might use her instead than avp if that's better than her (with some USS vanguard ships)

I don't have Implac yet

[whole crypt]

I'm guessing it should but the fleet looks kind of cope

who's the third carrier and what do you have in mind for vanguard

[lyric stump]

does moskva + nakhi > implacable?

so is implacable sueless now?

typical manjuu give l2d when ur ship retire 😭

[whole crypt]

I wouldn't say useless but yes you could possibly phase her out

[soft raft]

There would need to be another American backliner present as a pre-req but it should count

[red sapphire]

Hakuhou and for vanguard I supose Guam or alike + ARA like Hamman II may be. Or just a offtank USS and Kazagumo

[lyric stump]

anyways best vanguard crossfleet?

[red sapphire]

Oh, really? Sad

[soft raft]

"if there is another Eagle Union ship in your Main Fleet, and the enemy affected by this effect has their AA stat debuffed by your ships, that enemy's SPD is set to 0 for the duration of the SPD debuff."

IE Lexington II does not count herself for this skill

[whole crypt]

just use an AP BB fleet or something

[red sapphire]

Then ignore my question

I said nothing hahaha

[whole crypt]

do you have Laffey II

I'm assuming you don't have Yorktown II

[red sapphire]

Forget It. If I need a second USS main fleet I just use avp until Implac and it's pretty fine

[red sapphire]

Yes I do have

[whole crypt]

why not just Yorktown II/Lexington II that's the perfect pair

[red sapphire]

My idea was replacing avp on the ijn cv fleet

[whole crypt]

that's just cope

[soft raft]

Implac would be better than Lex2 for that

[red sapphire]

Don't have her (yet)

[proper violet]

Lexii yorkii kearsarge ez pz

[whole crypt]

either Implacable or Moskhimov or 🎲 with no stop

[red sapphire]

I'm using avp that is guaranted but feels like damage is low

[whole crypt]

it is

[red sapphire]

At least on heavy where ijn CVs shine

[whole crypt]

there's no relevant heavy now though

you can nuke hermit without stop

[red sapphire]

I know, but it's a fleet I like and I would like to invest on It a bit. Right now running BB Fleet (Lion Zwei Vanguard)

[whole crypt]

getting Meck online would be better

[red sapphire]

Until Dev30 Mecklen

[red sapphire]

Dev 21 worth It?

[whole crypt]

no

[red sapphire]

Also have Oumi or nj if they are better than vg

No idea

[whole crypt]

probably not

[red sapphire]

This is my BB fleet, should I change anything?

Plymouth Dev29 soon Dev30 with coins

[whole crypt]

Helena mid

[red sapphire]

Trafalgar back?

[soft raft]

IE swap Helena and Traf around

[whole crypt]

Helena already has lower eHP than Traf she's going to lose even more with 4 missing levels

unless you're just banking on damage control

[red sapphire]

Leveling Helena up

Soon 125

I'll swap their places, thanks

[teal cedar]

Would would the synergy be for nakhi + moskva?

[soft raft]

Moskva essentially has a permanent slow which can proc Nahk's freeze

And this frees up Soyuz's spot in favor of a different ship

[teal cedar]

Damn

Then I'm probably just going to bench moskva since I built my main fleet around Soyuz

Is she a good damage dealer?

[viscid swift]

tbd

she does give the fleet's AA circle +5 range though so that's something

[sweet delta]

I gave that a +2 in AA

[eternal basalt]

Datminers already confirmed it's +5AA to tyhe whole group

[ivory pawn]

I don't think you and sushi are talking about the same thing.

[white agate]

sushi is talking about evaluation

[spark moth]

do the normal diff event stages give 3x the currency on first clear? Is that how it works?

[eternal basalt]

Don't think this event does that

[spark moth]

im js confused what the x3 means

[eternal basalt]

x3 the points for first clear per day

[spark moth]

the milestone points?

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

okok thanks

[eternal basalt]

Though milestone points are also event shop points for this event

[eternal basalt]

This event DOES have that, had to wait for my auto to end

[exotic pendant]

quick question, i just started and wanted to know if it's worth rerolling an account

[wraith pendant]

no

[sweet delta]

first sentence here https://azurlaneecgc.com/newbie_tips/
read that and https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/progression-guide/ even if you don't care about meta

[spark moth]

my fleet costs a lot of oil but I gotta farm this affection somehow, do the later event stages have a fixed oil cost?

[exotic pendant]

thank you

[soft raft]

Only D stages have oil cap

[spark moth]

thank god

[tender lotus]

What's the best fleet for harbiter strength?

[mighty tulip]

First event I could finish the SP, ayeeeee.

[sweet delta]

maybe something like this but with Moskva just as crossfleet

[stark quiver]

is moskva high prio to mlb

[tender lotus]

Cool
I assume replace moskva with Hindenburg could work?

[stark quiver]

no

[obtuse island]

nakhimov wouldn't proc freeze

[hollow plank]

is there a guide for the Lantern Festival answers? Thanks!

[tender lotus]

Ah i see
I didn't read her skills

[hot turret]

should I save for Gangut META or save for the SM 40 Prototype main gun in event exchange?

[sweet delta]

why not both

from all these events, save 8000 but don't buy the ship until after the event map ends

rainbow gear is always the highest priority, gold gear is usually the highest priority, ship is whatever because she can drop from the map

[frank phoenix]

aight chat,i can techically 1:1 D3 but i need 1 more ship in cuz i'm missing like 70 eva from req

[sweet delta]

and why do you want to 1:1 D3

[frank phoenix]

should i slap some Eva aux gear on 2nd fleet to fill the reqiements?

[jolly condor]

😭i shouldn’t have pulled for mov

[frank phoenix]

cuz it costs like 21 oil/enemy instead of 60-80

and xp-ing ships there feels like an oil waste compared to 12-4

mobbing with just unicorn and roon reduces the oil cost from 267 to 201/run

[hot turret]

why not? I didn't hear feedback yet but she's probably powerkrept so it's always worth it to pull new URs, I got 3 copies of her rn

[knotty jolt]

oil cost is capped at 35 per mob so unless you wanna really be frugal with oil to maximize point to oil cost there's no reason not to run full fleets

[jolly condor]

cus i only got one at pity n idk she’s not really adding anything for me

[hot turret]

You must have been very unlucky then if you only got her via pity, I'm sure you'll have more luck next pulls

[jolly condor]

nice of you to assume i have more pulls

[rapid summit]

How is mosvka?

[hot turret]

I try to stay optimistic, I saved a lot of cubes for once for this event, now I only have 28 cubes left but no fast build so I have to watch them get buit the...ew...the normal way

[jolly condor]

i’m just gonna save and just use ur bulins from reset on sunday

[hot turret]

maybe wait and see what people say about it? Honestly it could be another Lion type of ship, new meta and such, but it could also be a nothing burger so just keep the UR bulins for now

[jolly condor]

personally it might be a nothing burger. we usually hear people gassing her up when they are strong

[viscid swift]

I mean we can't do testing overnight

right now all we can be fairly certain of is she frees Nahkimov from Soyuz

[hot turret]

that is true, I mean, I got 3 copies anyways and I was planning to waste a lot of cubes on it, however recently I heard that there might be a Sovietsky Soyuz rerun soon after so I might start saving up again

[jolly condor]

yea but i don’t have either soo sometimes i just like brute strength like lion

[stark quiver]

i can pull and mlb moskva either way lol
no decision needed

[rain bobcat]

guide updated

[sweet delta]

is there guide on how to fix her middle and index fingers

[stray crane]

new UR worth mlb ?

[sweet delta]

all URs are worth mlbing if you have bulins

[hidden pasture]

Do we have event guide now

[hollow gust]

event guide for what?

[hidden pasture]

the shop

[hollow gust]

its same as usual, the ship you can grind
Limited Weapons>Cogs+Arrays>Coins/Oil>Blueprints> then Tech packs for the scrubs

[hidden pasture]

okay tks :b

[fast frigate]

is admiral nakhimov worth to develop or no

[hollow gust]

she is very very good, but the newest season is more important

[hidden pasture]

how to unlock sp and ex stage

[hollow gust]

by beting D3

[hidden pasture]

okie tks:b

[stone lava]

ty goat

[sonic sequoia]

Are rental skins' l2d features watered down or am i dumb with touching? Cannot get chang wu to do anything and im getting mad

[inner delta]

no? rental are just gone after the period end not limited feature

[sonic sequoia]

I touch and touch and she does the same thing and i dont wanna pay just yet

[inner delta]

did you try this?

[sonic sequoia]

Couldnt find chang wu but i believe it doesnt work on mobile to begin with

[inner delta]

oh chang wu, idk where you touch for her

go try asking #al-general see if anyone have it and know the touch locations

[viscid swift]

you need to move back the curtain on her chest before any of the hidden interactions work

[rain bobcat]

my guide has chang wu

[viscid swift]

I dunno why they made it that way but that's how it works for whatever reason

[rain bobcat]

every single l2d paast aug of 2025 is in my sheet and most before aug 2025 is also in it

[sonic sequoia]

Will try this! And @rain bobcat i will try to open it again, it wouldnt load anything on my phone. Thx all!

[woeful token]

There's only one copy of Mogador's gun currently, right? Also, are there any other good AP DD guns?

[rain bobcat]

z46 and pompei gun

[woeful token]

The 135mm is SAP tho? And I don't remember it piercing.

[viscid swift]

it is

[hidden pasture]

is there a list of oil capped stage

[stark quiver]

D1, D2 , D3
SP
for this event at least

[hidden pasture]

should i buy oil with event currency to push level in order to upgrade my academy

btw i can only do c2 or roughly c3

[covert dagger]

the real question is that oil 1000 going to earn back 450 event tokens?

[rain bobcat]

oil from currency is safe

you will never go negative from it unless you full fleet first time clearing the stuff

[hidden pasture]

wym'

we shouldnt full fleet while sortie?

💀

[rain bobcat]

if you are strong enough you dont full fleet the first clear because that wastes oil

you want to clear
A1 A2 A3 B1 B2 D3

[soft raft]

No he's saying during intial clears in stages that dont have oil cap or in D stages during intial clears (since oil cap is only active when the stage is 100% cleared)

[rain bobcat]

I.e pick easy to everything except last stage then switch hard for D3

[stark quiver]

i use my farm fleet to full clear all stages

[hidden pasture]

bruh i cant do d3 so i clearing every stage

oh and i also need to raise cmdr lv so full fleet is a must do right

[stark quiver]

yes

dont say you cant do d3 or the meta slaves will get mad 🤫

[hidden pasture]

im lv 47 bro

my fleet are 80~ around that how can they clear d3 💀

[rain bobcat]

then spam b1

[hidden pasture]

not c but b1?

[whole crypt]

that's a stupid comment because we know if you can't, you can't

[hidden pasture]

[stark quiver]

smh

[whole crypt]

C is technically better than B if you can run them, but B3 comes with the benefit of possible event ship drop so that's kind of up to you

either way until you can get to at least D1 it's not going to be very pleasant

[hidden pasture]

holy priced

[hidden pasture]

does the event ship able to replace any of these

[robust onyx]

If she's mlb yes

[hidden pasture]

she's rare or what

[robust onyx]

Moskva is UR

[whole crypt]

SR but META

[hidden pasture]

thats great idk what meta is

[whole crypt]

talking about B3/D3 drop

[hidden pasture]

i have this guy meta also

[robust onyx]

Oh, that's what we are talking about

[whole crypt]

METAs have a separate skill leveling, LB and enhancing system than regular ships

[hidden pasture]

can they lb with elite bullins

[placid loom]

No, they use their own resource called meta crystals

[robust onyx]

Meta no

[hidden pasture]

great

[whole crypt]

for a newbie I don't think it's a great idea to work with METAs, at least not before you are sure you can secure the LB crystals

[hidden pasture]

so i'll go with c2 tho

[whole crypt]

if you are sure you can LB them then they don't cost you bulins and their skill leveling doesn't occupy your normal classroom slots

performance wise... will need to be on a case to case basis, Gangut META should be better than Pennsylvania but if you can't LB her down the road it's kind of moot

[hidden pasture]

talk ab skill i only level up unicorn healing skill am i missing sth

[whole crypt]

level Saratoga or Helena's skill too you should have 2 slots

[hidden pasture]

alr, i just dont know if it worth the books

[whole crypt]

you should be able to get a lot more mileage out of those 2 for a while

[hidden pasture]

max unicorn skill is a good idea eh

both skills

[whole crypt]

her heal skill is higher priority, the vanguard RLD skill doesn't add too much

[south sequoia]

How good is the new ur gun

[whole crypt]

Pennsylvania would have enjoyed a boost to her barrage earlier on but you might be replacing her not too long from now at this point so I can't really recommend leveling it if you haven't already done so

[whole crypt]

slightly worse than hindenburg gun on light but better on med/heavy

[hidden pasture]

i havent do anythign to penny except mlb her

[whole crypt]

yes but that's the thing, at your current level you could be running into a replacement BB soon, or should look to replace her depending on what you can get your hands on

[south sequoia]

Just read moskva's third skill, isnt this technically perma nakhimov slow uptime for when she launches planes?

[rain bobcat]

yes

[south sequoia]

Wow nice

[strong tartan]

Soyuz is dust

[whole crypt]

Nakhimov has been freed from Soyuz but we still need to wait to see how the fleets will change up

[south sequoia]

Oh soyuz ur time is OVER

[whole crypt]

just before her rerun

[hidden pasture]

1 pull a day and maybe a new bb will come home

[whole crypt]

to be fair sonaru is still plenty potent, you could replace Soyuz with say Lion for more output but that would mean displacing Lion from where she is now too

[south sequoia]

Maybe in the mext med meta boss

[whole crypt]

next showdown is light though so not for another 3 months at least

[south sequoia]

Oof

[strong tartan]

What's the cm for march

[whole crypt]

that or you could use moskhimov to replace Implacable for IJN nuke

[south sequoia]

Outside of the third skill moskva doesn't look all too interesting what does the frost carved status even do?

[hidden pasture]

do we do clearing mode for sortie on event staage

[strong tartan]

She gives +5 aa range which is cool

[whole crypt]

clearing mode is almost always better, the only time you turn it off is for working on escort node kills for campaign hard

for a start turning clearing mode off disables autosearch

[whole crypt]

frost carved status is basically a durability crutch, basically at any one time one ship on the screen will do less FP damage to Moskva and your flagship

not very useful on mob fights, but should add a fair bit for boss fights

[south sequoia]

Ic ic

[livid wyvern]

should i MLB guam (who is LB1), Moskva, WDP or Shinano.

[whole crypt]

how many bulins do you have/can afford

[livid wyvern]

just enough for one MLB

[whole crypt]

4? any other URs?

[livid wyvern]

yup 4, and no other URs

or should I be saving for soyuz

[whole crypt]

how far are you from perm pity

[livid wyvern]

very far, at 60 pulls now

[whole crypt]

where are you at for campaign/OS

[hollow gust]

Honestly Moskva > Guam

[whole crypt]

I'm not thinking between Guam and Moskva, I'm thinking between Shinano and Moskva

[hollow gust]

Shinano has no friends

[livid wyvern]

At chapter 13

[whole crypt]

still fairly decent

[hidden pasture]

i dont think i'll buy oil cuz c2 only gave 100 a clear but 3 clear cost 1k~ alrd

[hollow gust]

Plus for campaign Lexy is right there

[whole crypt]

don't buy oil, take a break, make sure you've taken your weeklies and the 4k oil pack

[hidden pasture]

where is that

the 4k oil pack

[whole crypt]

in shop

[hollow gust]

Lexy Cowpen Independence Enterprise , I don't see a reason to work on nano

[whole crypt]

there's a free supplies pack every week with 4k oil

if you already took this week's there'll be a new one on Monday

[hidden pasture]

zzz alr

[whole crypt]

make sure you claim it, there's also some XP packs in there

[hidden pasture]

is it in pack or in weekly supply

[livid wyvern]

hm makes sense feel like my vanguard is kinda lacking but i know main fleets are more worth to upgrade

[whole crypt]

it'll be the leftmost thing you can "buy" under the packs section in shop

you might have already taken it because it does have a notification mark when you come across it

[hidden pasture]

yeah ig

[hollow gust]

Moskva is a pretty easy choice , unless you want to wait for Yorktown or Musashi

[whole crypt]

I'm mostly thinking of how an OS boss fleet will come together, which is why I asked where he's at for OS as well

but yeh probably Moskva I guess

[livid wyvern]

ah for OS i guess I can clear arbiter normal

haven't tried hard

[glacial ermine]

How good is the new UR?

[hollow gust]

Nano synergy is weak here , Yorktown has so many friends to worry with

[whole crypt]

normal can be zombied so that doesn't say very much but if you're already slowly cruising through normbiter at least then I guess there's no need to try to change anything up for now

[whole crypt]

yes but he's not near perm pity

regardless I'll agree Moskva is probably the play here

[livid wyvern]

i see thanks for the advice

[whole crypt]

yes, wait for test

[hollow gust]

I have heard hinden dps but that,number is always so bullshit . CAs are so unreliable

[glacial ermine]

yes

[cobalt gate]

people say like top 5 front row ship? but no offensive team buff

main use is basically for nov time stop to proc

[whole crypt]

# claims Moskva is basically new top tank with over 500 more base HP than Naps but mebot placed her eHP around ⚓
self DPS is behind Unzen and Hindenburg by a small bit but AA debuff probably puts her above in CV fleet scenario

[hollow gust]

Hinden consistently gets fucked by my DDs

[whole crypt]

the woes of CA gun uptime

[hollow gust]

Useless ass CAs

[cobalt gate]

people predicting we get another ur np soon to actually make use of her 2nd skill

or maybe get stuck in yorktown 2 situation and wait like 2 years

[hollow gust]

Why does she need another UR??

[vague oracle]

How good is moskva? Anyone tested out already?

[sweet delta]

Skill issue

[cobalt gate]

well she doesn't, but currently skill 2 doesn't really do anything

[whole crypt]

expecting another NP UR just because of her skill is deluded
it's possible that we get more NP in research this year though

[sweet delta]

Only can test her properly
But you can see #media-content (my video) for calculations

[whole crypt]

which DDs are outperforming your CAs where though

[hollow gust]

Z52

[sweet delta]

Farming Yorktown meta planes

[wind hazel]

is it? im seeing moscow pulling ahead of unzen in light and medium

[vague oracle]

Got it

[cobalt gate]

video i watch says she is around same tanky as napoli but higher dmg

very good cross fleet

[slow fox]

-# I would say she slightly less
-# Appreciably less

[wind hazel]

less obese?

[whole crypt]

and where is that happening because Z52 is towards the high end and the gun+barrage uptime can mess things up

[slow fox]

Less tanky yah

[viscid swift]

considering only CN is saying Moskva is tankier than Napoli

[cobalt gate]

T0 cross fleet, has lock on based on what they said

[whole crypt]

unzen is heavy of course

[sweet delta]

But only mebot is saying Napoli is tankier than moskva

[whole crypt]

probably same vid if you're talking about bili

[cobalt gate]

yeah probably

[whole crypt]

it's always #

[cobalt gate]

i mean napoli provides smokescreen which is good for the whole frontrow

[sweet delta]

Waiting for reviews from &$+@!

[cobalt gate]

i don't get why people say moskow is better than elderidge tankiness though

[sweet delta]

Who says Eldridge tankiness is better

[whole crypt]

because Eldridge only stops being paper if she procs and is weak towards large hits

she's great if being peashotted at

[wind hazel]

yo wait she does aa debuff

[whole crypt]

Moskva? yeh

Nakhimov's new best friend, Soyuz in shambles

[wind hazel]

whats the maths if we use lexi yk2 nakhimov with moskva wdp trafalgar. is it better than kear or lion

[vale spindle]

jimmy says use all 3

[viscid swift]

meh, I don't see the point

[whole crypt]

why bother Moskhimov with Lex II YT II, you're just bringing double stops