gameplay-help

[eternal basalt]

He is in chap 7

[onyx flame]

eh he got 2 weeks, plus if he can grind hard on the event it basically as if their at chp 9/10

[hidden pasture]

My fleet avrg lv is 70...

[eternal basalt]

IF he can do D

[hidden pasture]

Am i cooked

[onyx flame]

tot totally just win the gacha 4head

[hidden pasture]

💀

[eternal basalt]

Depends on your luck stat

[tulip tinsel]

even if you don't get her you're not cooked

[hidden pasture]

How much does it cos to do 1 build

[onyx flame]

400 cubes to guarantee
2 per pull

[tulip tinsel]

2 cube 1.5k coin

[hidden pasture]

Hell nah i only have 150

[eternal basalt]

-3 pulls

[tulip tinsel]

then save for soyuz or smth

[hidden pasture]

👽

Someone told me to pull and hopefully find sth to replace Lexington

[eternal basalt]

Then againshe will be perm 1 year and the new will. Rerun in 2 years, wait for datamine

[hidden pasture]

💀

So save? And mlb lexington?

[onyx flame]

might as well mlb lexington if your using her, unless you got someone else

plus purple bulin is cheap

[hidden pasture]

👽💧

Alr

My patience is waving

Gambling urges

[eternal basalt]

Getting confused by purple bulin talk, was thinking Lex II

[tame chasm]

i took a short break and spam pulled on the china girls without knowing there would be a ur

[hidden pasture]

[hidden pasture]

Lex the elite one👽

She just drop out of nowhere

I guess ill have to stick with lexington for a while😔

Shes not that bad right

[eternal basalt]

Use the current event to get some cubes https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Commission_Exchange_Plan

[tame chasm]

the resort?

[whole crypt]

not without LBs, though purple bulins aren't hard to get

[eternal basalt]

No, but do that too for free gems

[hidden pasture]

So mlb and she'll be good right

[eternal basalt]

Saratoga better if you can get her

[hidden pasture]

👽💧 drop rate is insane, btw spend oil to get her will that worth

I dont rly remember where she drop tho

[eternal basalt]

4-1 and 6-4

[hidden pasture]

Im struggling to pass 6 4 so i think i'll skip

I shouldnt do this right

When is the next UR, and does pity keep when banner change?

[eternal basalt]

You might get her from eventsbuilds too IF the eventbuild is Special pool. Aims towards Hard though.

[hidden pasture]

Whats event build

[knotty jolt]

It's the gacha thats available when an event is going on

[tulip tinsel]

tomorrow after maint

[hidden pasture]

After that👽

[eternal basalt]

The current pity you keep, but the EVENT pity is just for the event, and doesn't increase perma-pity

[hidden pasture]

I dont have enough resource to pull

[hidden pasture]

So, does the mosvka pity keep

[tulip tinsel]

no bcs she's UR

[hidden pasture]

Dammit

[knotty jolt]

Event pity is separate to perma pity

When event passes whatever pity you had for her vanishes

[hidden pasture]

💥 alr👽💧

Idk when i'll save up to 400 pulls tho, will i ever have an UR

[knotty jolt]

You'll get one eventually

[eternal basalt]

perma-pity keeps between events and non-UR events

[tulip tinsel]

200 pulls, just skip an UR or shit event banner and soon

[hidden pasture]

Soon guys, soon.

[knotty jolt]

If push comes to shove you can even get a UR without building simply by doing your rookie missions

[eternal basalt]

Or getting Yuudachi from 6-4

[knotty jolt]

discount ur

[hidden pasture]

👽

[hidden pasture]

Handbook?, finish all rookie quest and i'll get an UR?

Yay

[knotty jolt]

It is limited between New Jersey and Shinano tho mind you

[hidden pasture]

Shimano les go

Wow. Awesome features.

Did they mean stage 5 with sp5

[eternal basalt]

Thry mean sp5

[hidden pasture]

Whatever stage is oil capped in those war archives?

[knotty jolt]

Specifically those for commander XP

[eternal basalt]

Depends on the stage

[hidden pasture]

Well i cant beat stage 5 passionate polaris anyway

[hidden pasture]

Does catlodge affects much

[knotty jolt]

ignore cats

For the most part you don't need them, of the few times you do just two lv30 gold cats is enough and they can be whatever

[fleet shard]

What is chapter 16's gimmick

[knotty jolt]

Air bases on the land tiles you need to strike

Also you got sub support similar to air support from chapter 15

[fleet shard]

So more planes?

[knotty jolt]

Still lots of planes yes

[onyx flame]

w15 plus

[knotty jolt]

Also fog obscuring enemies too

[fleet shard]

😵‍💫

[small quarry]

Hi, does anyone know where we can read about the new UR's abilities?

[knotty jolt]

We have no information on what it can do in general

Wait till the datamine

[plain saffron]

nowhere until she's actually obtainable ingame, she's out tomorrow right?

[knotty jolt]

Soon™

[cobalt gate]

Hope good cross fleet

[whole crypt]

it can probably equip a main gun and 2 auxiliaries

[white agate]

who were the strongest vanguard crossfleeters?

[eternal basalt]

/crossfleet

[odd root]

https://www.azurlaneecgc.com/images/equip_misc/Cross-fleet_Effects.jpeg

[eternal basalt]

There are only 6, so...

Unzen should be good for the new UR

[blissful marlin]

Which DR is best in pr7?

[knotty jolt]

Naki but she want's Soyuz to be at her strongest

[blissful marlin]

How about Napoli?

[knotty jolt]

I like her personally, but all she has going for her is she's super tanky

For most use cases you don't need something like her for tanking. You're better off using something that can tank AND do damage like Gouden in PR8

[blissful marlin]

Ok thank you very much

[whole crypt]

Napoli also does okay damage, Gouden Leeuw's added benefit is AA

her durability is often excessive for most things, but where she works she works so it kind of depends on where you're at

[twin bronze]

I'll say unzen, kron and willie

[whole crypt]

depends on how you're using the crossfleet, guam is fair game for killing suicide boats in low cost setups

but for max damage then yes probably those 3

[spark moth]

is there any reason why I can't add more blueprints in the dev level, I have more but when I click the + button nothing happens

[knotty jolt]

It's either maxed out or your ship isn't high enough level

to increase dev level past certain breakpoints they need to be the approriate level similar to if you were limit breaking them IE lv10, lv30 lv70

[spark moth]

ohhh that makes sense, I just finished her recently so shes low level

okok time to exp farm

[white agate]

👍

[cedar flint]

For main its gonna be better essex/kearsarge/new jersey or implacable/kearsarge/new jersey ?

[eternal basalt]

For damage, or do you mean as crossfleet?

[cedar flint]

damage

[frank phoenix]

anyb got the crossfleet image in higher quality?can't read shit XD

[late flame]

Open in browser

[white agate]

go to the site

its a vectorial image there

[spark moth]

are there any early story stages that have notable gear drops?

[inland shoal]

Not really, it's just generally not really worth it to farm maps for equips

[spark moth]

aw man ig its time to open op-si

[brave canyon]

what should I go for first; a rainbow 406mm or my second Wyvern?

have a bunch of UR choice plans

[hollow gust]

406

So much alternatives to wyvern , some work even in endgame

[sweet delta]

406 is basically useless without 360 extra gold plates ready to go

[brave canyon]

i havent touched my gold plates yet, should I save them for Meck gun though?

guess Ill go 2nd wyvern

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/List_of_Battleship_Guns#tabber-Max_Enhanced
why is the Champ gun not listed here?

[sweet delta]

Is it not?

[frank phoenix]

wrong server XD mb

[brave canyon]

ah ok I was going off the name from here:
https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/equips/id/91000

[forest palm]

wiki uses essentially fan translation, and not what is officially recognized by the English localization

[brave canyon]

😭

ok thank you

[forest palm]

which is funny because they do document the Localized English ver of things

[sweet delta]

Unfortunately wiki pages are often titled with historical or descriptive names instead of the in game name, and it won't change

[frank phoenix]

I'm nowhere near prepared for tomorrow xD

Soyuz rerun right after np event or we got time between?

[eternal basalt]

You have 2 weeks

[eternal basalt]

Not right after atleast, but we don't know if 1 week or 1 month, generally it's 1 week though

[frank phoenix]

Gonna be rough. We get 44 free pulls on rerun,right ?

I guess around the same ammont for new ur

[eternal basalt]

You get no free pulls on new ship

[frank phoenix]

Event not giving pulls? Damm

[undone plover]

event gives 10 cubes

and technically u get 14 extra cubes since u dont have to pull light banner during event

[mint onyx]

when i try to log into the game on my ipad it doesnt let me log in something about my account being binded anyone know how to fix?

[inner delta]

you mean you don't have anything binded or problem with the account that already binded?

[mint onyx]

I have my account binded to my apple id, it works fine on my phone it auto logs in. I just got an ipad and when I open the app it tells me to bind an account. If i put my email it says its already binded, if i click apple id it tells me to bind an account

[inner delta]

hm, for apple im not sure if i can help since i never used it, you can wait until someone know the answer either here or you can also post one on #tech-support

[mint onyx]

oh ok thank you

[steady rain]

how do i get more of this currency?

[inner delta]

do more commision

[steady rain]

ive been doing 8+ commisions daily for the whole event period but still this short on currency

[rain bobcat]

i mean for one you bought the useless exp packs im assuming since its not showing up there

cant complain about not being able to buy cubes if u refused to

Im down to the last 15cubes or something

[inner delta]

only that? or you also do everything else

[steady rain]

i just bought a few cubes, p sure i didnt buy any exp packs

[soft raft]

Only reruns give build tickets, mainly due to how reruns last 1 week instead of 2 weeks like they did during their initial run

[rain bobcat]

also is 8+ comms 1hr

you should ideally be having comms running 24/7

if you do it right, the 8hr comms show up near ur bedtime

[steady rain]

i do the 4 comms on the bottom of the comission list, not the long one that gives lots of xp

2h each

[viscid swift]

just do more comissions, I've bought out all the cubes and medals at this point, and got enough still banked to buy out the XP packs

[steady rain]

alright, do the longer comms give more currency?

[viscid swift]

it's all the same hourly rate

[hot turret]

wow how did you already get all the cubes!? I've been doing commisions all day since this event started and I still got 2 more cube stacks to buy lol

[steady rain]

what do u mean by "do everything else"? u mean other event gameplay?

[viscid swift]

I'm probably on the slow side if anything

[hot turret]

I wish I could give myself an hourly reminder to restart the 1h commisions lol but I'm usually at work so that would be a bad idea

[eternal basalt]

We got till march 25

[hot turret]

oh yeah I'm not worried, I still manage to get 1-2 cubes every one or 2 days

[inner delta]

i meant the other comms

[mint onyx]

I fixed it, I just binded it to twitter and it worked

[steady rain]

i only do the standard ones which are 1-2h~, i didnt get any limited comms

[hot turret]

I do the 12h or 6h one, no idea if it really provides that much, but I'm flowing in oil rn so it's worth it i guess

[hidden pasture]

Taihou is she good

Should i swap her with lexington

[forest palm]

not worth the Gold Bulins

[hidden pasture]

Alrighty

[flint arrow]

How do i get this thingy

[forest palm]

currently unavailable, will comeback for Global Anniversary which is like mid August

[flint arrow]

Sad

[grizzled sundial]

Save existing UR bulin for future UR or use them on Guam and Laffey 2 now ?

[viscid swift]

I mean Moskva literally drops tomorrow

[grizzled sundial]

Got 2 bulin in da dock , then a free bulin next event

[hidden pasture]

whats CL

[hidden pasture]

should i use terror

[soft raft]

Fuck no

Monitors suck both in game and IRL

[spark patio]

What does monitor do?

[soft raft]

Weaker battleships

supposedly they deal more damage according to the wiki but all of them are dogshit elites so omegalul

[spark patio]

Even battlecruiser?

[soft raft]

yes

there's really not much difference between Battleships and Battlecruisers besides some of them having different secondary mounts and when Hard Mode stages specifiy between the two hulltypes

[spark patio]

btw why is my BC had torp point while she cant do shoot torp or have any skill to shoot torp? then what does it mean

[viscid swift]

if we want to really get into the weeds the main benefit of a monitor is their shallow draft allowing them to operate in areas where capital ships normally can't but sadly such an advantage is not relevant in AL

[soft raft]

Who specifically are you talking about rn?
Cuz yes there's like two of them with TRP stat and it's not for no reason

It's not something all BCs have

[spark patio]

here

I mean she doesn't have any skill to shoot torps like Gneisenau

[soft raft]

Part of her barrage has torps or TRP based damage as part of it

she has two special barrages
I've never used her so I can't recall what they look like, but it's definetly in the skill somewhere

[soft raft]

Like I said earlier, it's in her barrages
The skills just don't explicitly say that, but that's why she has TRP stat

[hidden pasture]

should i do this

[spark patio]

So her barrage dame is from TRP+FP?

[boreal merlin]

barrages can scale from trp or fp or both

[soft raft]

You'll naturally get more tech points as you obtain/limit break/lvl 120 ships, You dont really need to specifically focus on that

[hidden pasture]

alr

i met a wall in both cmdr lv and ship lv where should i farm

[soft raft]

The highest stage you can comftorably clear

[hidden pasture]

can i use full fleet?

[soft raft]

That's what you should be doing in the first place

full fleet means more commander XP per fight

[hidden pasture]

okie wokie

[spark patio]

can i tag u in Al lore?

[soft raft]

Just post there like normal?
It's not like there isn't more people there

[hidden pasture]

should i buy ship in medal shop if its good?

[soft raft]

If they happen to be in your shop's rotation for the month yeah
Enterprise yes
Get Alabama from BB instead since she's better (also needs unique aug)
Sandy is lower priority

[hidden pasture]

holy 900+ oil for 3 repeat sortie

just crack my head

[whole crypt]

there's some stats bonuses behind that but nothing very significant, if you can spare the coins go ahead, if not you can do it later

[fast frigate]

new UR tmrw right?

[whole crypt]

maintenance coming on day change, yes

[hidden pasture]

worth invest to replace penny?

[atomic abyss]

No

[whole crypt]

Nelson or the USS Big 7s better, if you don't have them don't bother

[noble pawn]

her sister maybe

[hidden pasture]

arizona?

[strong tartan]

Nelson retro

[whole crypt]

nothing to rush though, I don't think you have the spare resources to retrofit a BB now anyway

[hidden pasture]

real

[whole crypt]

just wait for the event, you might get a better BB from gacha, or with any luck Gangut META might be an easier raise

[noble pawn]

what's decent fleet tech bonus stat for BB fleet? +35 FP?

[whole crypt]

it's just basically whateverr you can get

max is much higher, the more you have the better

[noble pawn]

I've got +10 FP so far

[whole crypt]

current max is 98
it'll be 99 in half a day's time

[noble pawn]

Damn that's long way

[hidden pasture]

should i retire an elite ship if i have mlb that ship

[elfin hollow]

What would be considered the best rares? I've so many Amazon dupes and wonder if I should max her?

[hidden pasture]

ive my lexington mlb and another one just drop outta nowhere

[whole crypt]

yeh you can safely retire dupes for purples and below if MLB

[hidden pasture]

okie wokie

why not ssr

[whole crypt]

the worst that can happen is the ship gets a retrofit (highly unlikely for Lexington) and you'll need a dupe to do it, but purple bulins are common anyway

golds too actually but I don't think you'll have enough dupes of those soon

[hidden pasture]

👽

true

how to know that a stage is oil capped

[whole crypt]

it'll be indicated next to the autosearch toggle on entry
actual cost limit amount will be on the fleet selection (stig's pic)
cost indicator in pre-battle screen will show it

[hidden pasture]

alr alr

[whole crypt]

but basically after clearing the stage:

• campaign ch9 onwards
• campaign hard ch8 onwards
• higher end event maps

[hidden pasture]

wha

[whole crypt]

nothing in early game is oil capped

[hidden pasture]

passionate polaris stage 5 is not oil capped? ig i should just auto 6 4 lol

[whole crypt]

higher end event maps

[hidden pasture]

👽

[whole crypt]

very generally SP5 or equivalent for SP maps (like polaris), D1-D3 or equivalent for EX maps

[hidden pasture]

i thought it was stage 5

[whole crypt]

it depends on the event format

the coming event goes by AC1-3/BD1-3

or whatever they decide to name them

[hidden pasture]

does this mean its not oil capped

[whole crypt]

C is hard of A, D is hard of B

[hidden pasture]

whut da hell

bloody hell

💀

[viscid swift]

2/25/2026 CN Datamine

[whole crypt]

oh # is up?

[crystal flume]

can i have some 13-4 lineup with flex spot on backline for lvling up? the one i use atm kinda have 20% to fail

[noble pawn]

I use Georgia u can use any BB with lvl 100 at minimum. Unicorn is a must and flex CV slot ( I use Essex Lvl 120).

Taihou can hit hard even in safe

[brave canyon]

post your current maybe

13-4 is pretty easy in the current game

there's just ltos of air

make sure you have flapjacks and lots of +10 gold AA guns

[crystal flume]

current one tho it's hardly flex since backline almost 120

other than z52 rest frontline is for mission

[crystal flume]

🤔 essex have preload no

[brave canyon]

oh for leveling

you don't need to farm 13-4. 11-1 and 12-4 are the best for leveliing

[whole crypt]

Essex doesn't have true preload, she has plane barrage on entry

[brave canyon]

12-4 is best for coins, 11-1 for exp, 13 is too hard for leveling

[crystal flume]

ah that one haha

[crystal flume]

wha 11-1 for lving?!

[noble pawn]

Good exp from there but shit coins

I go 13-4 for leveling high level ships and good coins gain

[crystal flume]

ah

[onyx flame]

wouldnt touch anything lower than chp 12 cause no chips

[crystal flume]

chip?

[noble pawn]

no, I just use her for clearing barrage

[onyx flame]

cog chips, stuff you use to increase level cap

[crystal flume]

i didn't we can get it from stage lol

[cobalt gate]

is the new rainbow gun good?

[onyx flame]

most likely a sidegrade to hindenburg gun, from what other initial said that i saw

[crystal flume]

make sense haha guess i'll just go back to 12-4 after these reach 120

[cobalt gate]

i see, moscow seems hard to judge for now

[onyx flame]

if you have an AA carry of some kinda you can swap z52 out

[crystal flume]

such as?

[onyx flame]

laff2/guam/san diego/shimanto/gouden

[crystal flume]

ah

sandy on boss fleet

i can try with shimanto tho

[hidden pasture]

is this box great

[onyx flame]

it eh, guarantee gold gear but your still subjected to rng

[ivory pawn]

It's very nice early on, if you're lucky.

[hidden pasture]

:b alr

[whole crypt]

it guarantees a piece of gold gear out of a small selection and a lot of it is still junk

depending on the faction of the T5 box there is a range of potentially useful gear

[onyx flame]

golden crane coming to spook your drops

[cobalt gate]

hmm the DD looks good, but not sure about the other ships

well the purple ships aren't bad

[wind hazel]

what's the new gun dps comparison to hinden gun? stats number looks higher but slower

[viscid swift]

think Suchi said better than Hinden

I am also once again asking Manjuu for a refund on gold plates

[whole crypt]

53->54 base
5% better medium mod 5% worse light mod
the difference in reload time is probably inimical

net should be overall slightly better than hindenburg gun in cases where you'd bother to use the gun

I have plenty of shit I want manjuu to refund me on but I guess I'll just keep farming OS

[tidal meteor]

Imo better to just craft stuff now if you want rather than wait for the next gear that's best, because either there'll always be something better next year or two, or you'll be left waiting indefy

[viscid swift]

huh

[tidal meteor]

speaking as someone who's been waiting for a jet (or at least a Flapjack replacement for three years now)

[wind hazel]

what are you talking about

[whole crypt]

it's just usual shittalk on gear powercreep we don't seriously expect a plate refund or something

[rain bobcat]

[viscid swift]

anyway, TLDR so far
Moskva gun is a small Hindenburg Gun upgrade

Moskva herself now looks like she can free Nahkimov from Soyuz

the rest of the ships exist

[rain bobcat]

can you give me a tldr on moskva relative performance to current UR vg

[viscid swift]

I have no clue right now

[stark quiver]

Will moskva be PvP meta

[rain bobcat]

why is alpa white name+ no tag

[stark quiver]

I asked to have purple go poof
Wdym no tag, elp tag right here

[wind hazel]

fell for discord scam

[tidal meteor]

Moskva will be new UR benchwarmer

[wind hazel]

this is what we see

[stark quiver]

Damn

[rain bobcat]

he got scammed by logan paul

[trim depot]

datamine alr came out?

[late flame]

[stark quiver]

Idk where the tag went 😭

[viscid swift]

still wip

mainly skill translations, Moskva's are done though

[trim depot]

hopefully shes good

[viscid swift]

meh

[whole crypt]

at a glance she is but it's going to be a bit fickle where to fit her

[stark quiver]

Oh
Elp ran out of nitro 💀

[whole crypt]

fair tank stats and works with Nakhimov

[late flame]

Rrussian musashi

[whole crypt]

in soviet russia vanguard mainfleets you!

[pale mason]

chang wu isn't used in some specific team to warrant pulling for her right?

[wind hazel]

collection

[late flame]

she wants full DE vanguard so yeah more of collection

[whole crypt]

if you really want to use a Dragon Empery team yes
but otherwise collection

[pale mason]

ok cool just wanted to make sure

[wind hazel]

she hot though, i'd pull

plus it's 1 cube per try lol

[pale mason]

only ahve 353 cubes so probably not worth

[wind hazel]

ye

[rain bobcat]

everyone will eat shit as cn anni becomes CN UR vg with giga powercreep fr

[inner delta]

[late flame]

-# well, maintenance is incoming so..

[inner delta]

where is sam

[viscid swift]

still working

[stark quiver]

He died

[rain bobcat]

dead

[inner delta]

o, ok

[viscid swift]

we got the datamine link ready though it's not finished yet

[pale mason]

there was one time that i didn't pull for a event unit and turned out they were used in some fleet so i always ask now xd

[viscid swift]

I can drop it now so it can be pinned and save the hassle later if you want

[stark quiver]

The fleet is probably never gonna be used

[whole crypt]

but CN hasn't finished maintenance!

[stark quiver]

Also when new meta dropping

[viscid swift]

when Yorktown META ends

[late flame]

2 weeks from now

[stark quiver]

Do we know who it is

[viscid swift]

Regensburg

we literally discussed this in elp....

[stark quiver]

Ok bet
Ima start grinding again

I was not part of the we

[wind hazel]

you gotta insert some pvp talk, then he'll join the "we"

[hidden pasture]

is there anythign useful

for this

[stark quiver]

Did you guys discuss in elp general or elp elp

[wind hazel]

ap shell to penny, twin113 to any of your vanguard

keep the torpedo, can be useful later on

[hidden pasture]

lesgo

[late flame]

crane in 3..2..

[hidden pasture]

:b not what i expected

[wind hazel]

give z23

[late flame]

it never gives rainbow btw

[stark quiver]

I expected as much

[hidden pasture]

i read that, i thought it gonna give radar or sth

[inner delta]

sure

[wind hazel]

at least you got something useful, most get the shitty crane

[viscid swift]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQnOkFDhOcrw50FzC2HUl1wEYd_5LttUZm6Hr-BugtqW1G4c7KS5Ci-jnKQrVCWYNhPxjBLBaOTD2qi/pubhtml#gid=807240949

[hidden pasture]

do i have to replace both aux?

[whole crypt]

carving is not transfered to a random enemy it's transfered to the closest enemy

[noble pawn]

better than gold crane

[wind hazel]

use any FP aux. the 500hp gear is meant for your vanguard lol

[viscid swift]

take it up with Sam, I did not do the translation

[hidden pasture]

meh i literally have nothing to replace btw

[hidden pasture]

bruh alr

[wind hazel]

you do. that fire control and 91ap shell

[stark quiver]

Gold crane 💀

[whole crypt]

is he busy with something else now or will he see pings

[hidden pasture]

:b

[wind hazel]

he's farming genshin impact

[peak fable]

what happens when you get research BPs for a ship you already max researched?

[viscid swift]

said he was eating dinner last I checked, should see it though before EN goes into maint

[stark quiver]

You get the bps

[noble pawn]

bps for analyzes

[peak fable]

yeh but what do I do with them

[noble pawn]

you get proto core for freeeeee

[hidden pasture]

which is better tho

[onyx flame]

Save em for fate sim on turn into protocore

[stark quiver]

You either keep them or analyze them onto proto something

[peak fable]

ah

kk ty

[wind hazel]

both are shit

[hidden pasture]

alr i'll +3 the purple 1

[wind hazel]

i just wouldnt even enhance them

[hidden pasture]

oh alr 👽

[wind hazel]

event tonight, you'll get more tech box to open

[whole crypt]

@vale spindle
Moskva s1 frost carving transfer is closest enemy not random
s2 heal is 4%(10%) not 40(100) decimal point missing from CN text
s3 exact wording is AA scout range, likely referring to AA circle not just AA gun range which could be understood as only Moskva's own gun

[stark quiver]

over or under 100 pulls for all ships guys

[wind hazel]

i never go over(lies)

[whole crypt]

don't care I just need to oath Moskva immediately

[hidden pasture]

what aux does carrier want tho

[whole crypt]

catapult

[wind hazel]

steam cata or aviation fuel

[hidden pasture]

okie wokie

[wind hazel]

is it called aviation fuel. something tank

looks like a fat bullet

[stark quiver]

why

[whole crypt]

because VA

[stark quiver]

i see

[hidden pasture]

i saw

[wind hazel]

was it tadokoro azusa

[hidden pasture]

that i dont have 1, actually i have 2 but they are white gear

[wind hazel]

just use anything with AVI stats for now

but no need to enhance them if they arent purple/gold

[soft raft]

Oh right it's Datamine hours rn
What's the current read on Moskva?

[wind hazel]

she has slow, so nakhimov pairing without soyuz is green

[hidden pasture]

fuh this quest

[stark quiver]

60 pulls when UR drops easy

[hidden pasture]

shouldnt we stack 400 cubes for guarantee since the pity doesnt keep?

or we just go gambling, hehe i love gambling

[stark quiver]

you should
i sometimes dont

[hidden pasture]

fair enough

[onyx flame]

Depend on your cube count you might get enuf to guarantee by the end of the event

[hidden pasture]

we should get this right 👽

[onyx flame]

Only when you need her

[wind hazel]

you'll get one from the event milestone

make sure to grind and get the monthly 5k spcore. buy the additional 3k from medal shop too

[hidden pasture]

is there anything that look useful to z23

[wind hazel]

you have 2 more days to grind until monthly reset

[hidden pasture]

les go

i didnt realize we have this

[onyx flame]

Dont bother with augs early on

[hidden pasture]

👽 👌

[brave canyon]

twin 127 is ok early, the pea shooter is fine for her as well

[hidden pasture]

im using them for portland and helena

[crystal flume]

knowing which is AA carry help alot thank you managed to clear with ease with backline for lvling

[brave canyon]

the pea shooter is the 76mm AA gun, it's BiS for a lot of destroyers and really good early because it's so accessible

though you don't have any it's worth keeping your eyes open for one

[whole crypt]

it's only BIS for DDs that have dogshit gun stats

[hidden pasture]

oh alrighty

[brave canyon]

the 127 will be better on z23 than on portland for now

[brave canyon]

before you have rainbows or +13s it's bis on a lot more

[whole crypt]

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide/ this exists and it's not all rainbow/gold

[wind hazel]

https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/equips/id/21440

this is your budget gun

[viscid swift]

Eh

Z52, Trafalgar, William D. Porter

[soft raft]

Lmao right when Soyuz rerun was announced

[whole crypt]

not the current reference

[brave canyon]

did he math it all out?

should be easy to calculate if you know barrage numbers

and have the time and energy

[wind hazel]

bro z23's barrage isn't gonna need 76 lol

[viscid swift]

Why tf are you placing the most fragile main fleet in the position that takes the most damage....

[crystal flume]

🤔 fleet leader no as i said exp

[viscid swift]

Also, you'll run out of main fleets long before you run out of vanguards to level

[whole crypt]

you realize both 76mm and twin120 have basically existed since launch and we've never found 76mm to be better outside of ships like Ayanami early on, and is only better on some of the newer UR DDs who have very strong on-shot/fast barrages

[viscid swift]

Irrelevant of they die and you lose the battle as a result

[crystal flume]

uh backline for fleet tech and front for shipyard mission

[crystal flume]

and uh no one is dying

[whole crypt]

vanguards have no XP bonus regardless of position

[crystal flume]

wha

[brave canyon]

testing i saw said it's even better on unexpected ones like javelin

[whole crypt]

tank, mid and off tank have no difference in XP modifier it's only flagship (middle main fleet)

[crystal flume]

💀 what i've been living for all this time

[viscid swift]

So why not just drop down to 12-4 for instance and use vanguards that meet the xp requirements and need xp

[whole crypt]

Javelin is probably more recent after her augment and she's more torp boat than gun boat compared to Z23 and Laffey

[crystal flume]

new UR i need gold

[viscid swift]

You have 2 weeks to farm gold

[crystal flume]

...

[viscid swift]

And not like 12-4 is that much worse

[crystal flume]

😌 yeah let's forget about event stage right

[stark quiver]

yeah fam

[crystal flume]

is it crime being efficient here

[hidden pasture]

i think i'll get max retrofit unicorn tmr

[viscid swift]

You can just low cost farm the event stages

[whole crypt]

what exactly are you trying to again and are you having any problems with it

[stark quiver]

i dont think anyone really does that

[whole crypt]

but we do

well not all the time but it's a thing

[rain bobcat]

i do

[crystal flume]

😌 the problem has been solved

[stark quiver]

i run full URs for my farm fleets in events these days

[whole crypt]

if you can go low cost well enough the oil saved is worth more in 12-4, the real issue is just the amount of grind time needed for points go up by a fair bit

[crystal flume]

😌 i don't know everybody but i run 9 stage be it event or stage a day
and i was lvling for fleet tech the problem never been oil

once i run out that heart thingy

[viscid swift]

What

[whole crypt]

are your ships in dorm
if they're in dorm you should be able to run significantly more than 9 stages

[crystal flume]

😭 basically i won't farm fking gold if stage event is up

what's more to explain and what u'r trying to do haha

[soft raft]

If you can farm D maps that's basically the equivalent of W10

[viscid swift]

I can barely understand your broken English honestly

[crystal flume]

💀 first time someone told me my english is broken

[stark quiver]

also is event pool gonna be special or heavy

[viscid swift]

And though it's a bit time consuming you can low cost farm the event while doing w12

[whole crypt]

I'm guessing he just rushes 9 maps and then drops out from low morale

[soft raft]

Should be heavy

[hidden pasture]

a blue gun is that good what the hell

[stark quiver]

nice

[whole crypt]

I'm 99.9% sure moskva's pool will be heavy

[viscid swift]

I mean there's no subs or CVs

[whole crypt]

that's the 76mm we've been talking about
it's only good on a couple specific DDs

[hidden pasture]

oh alr

[whole crypt]

notice stig also listed the relevant ships

[crystal flume]

yeah that's the thing i can't do

[viscid swift]

Also, if you're just doing 9 runs a day then yeah

[brave canyon]

he listed a few

[whole crypt]

anyway it's not like event stages don't give coin, I'm not sure how much you actually need

[viscid swift]

Not much more to say than you're screwed no matter what

[brave canyon]

with an unknown number of others

[whole crypt]

William D. Porter, Trafalgar, Z52, and Kazagumo. Other somewhat notable examples include Shimakaze, Lenja, Nana, Kawakaze, Z47, and Scylla
you could probably throw Ayanami into that list, Yukikaze for PvP, maybe Javelin because I do remember she gets a fairly sizable barrage upgrade after augment or some shit

[stark quiver]

an unknown number of shitters who are irrelevent

[viscid swift]

We didn't go through every ship no but we listed every relevant one

[whole crypt]

most of the ships unnamed are simply not relevant anyway

[brave canyon]

aug only give her the timed javellin I believe

[stark quiver]

the quick gear guide also isnt a pvp guide so no point in putting ykkz
nobody uses ayanami anyways

[crystal flume]

😌 appreciate ur input tho if i don't get the UR after a week i'll just do what u said

[brave canyon]

retro and aug both give Javelin an attack/barrage but they are timed not on attack

[whole crypt]

no, it changes her blue skill to fire a barrage

[brave canyon]

but it's timed not based on attack speed

so irrelevant to weapon choice

[whole crypt]

as far as I can remember javelin is also the weakest of the starters before augment anyway

she's also just not relevant regardless

[hidden pasture]

no oil then its time to go sleep right

[stark quiver]

pvp reset isnt here

[whole crypt]

she gets more torp scaling than FP scaling off the top of my head which might be why you're trying to max that but the actual difference really doesn't matter for most cases you're still using jav

[brave canyon]

is pea shooter better on the DDGs?

[whole crypt]

yep javelin raid+ is TRP scaled, so if 76mm shows up any better it's only because for buffing TRP by proccing assault mode

DDGs is a definite no

[stark quiver]

ddgs rely a lot on gun damage

[brave canyon]

assault mode is also timed not on shot

jav must always have been better with the 76 but went unnoticed

[whole crypt]

possible, because she was the least recommended

Z23 and Laffey have significantly stronger gunnery to be ever considered for peashooter

[brave canyon]

yeah

although laffey...

has mroe buff uptime with pea shooter and her rld and fp buffs are netural to either gun

only high main gun efficiency favors real guns, which hers is quite high

[whole crypt]

she has more than fair FP and good gun eff

[nocturne glade]

Got enough rld tech to get Z52 to 76mm threshold (255 atm), should I swap off 113mm for the moment?

[stark quiver]

she also has high firepower

[whole crypt]

her buff is also an FP buff so trading uptime with a much weaker damage gun makes no sense

[brave canyon]

but fp also scales her barrage which is why it's neutral to both guns

high or low fp doesn't matter in choosing which gun

[whole crypt]

the gun costs electronics for a minor improvement so that's up to you

[nocturne glade]

Already on 113, but I read suchi's analysis on his page and it suggested 76mm is better in this range

[stark quiver]

are you gusy reading too much into a noob ass ship

[whole crypt]

then stick with 76

[nocturne glade]

I see, ty!

[stark quiver]

it probably wont make or break anything, so just pick whatever

[vale spindle]

translations should all be done by now

[whole crypt]

will update you for confirmation an Moskva's AA thing when it comes round

[brave canyon]

but she (tai yuan) has low efficiency duel MGM🤔

[vale spindle]

i think its a vanguard AA circle gets +5 thats my understanding

[whole crypt]

DDGs have high FP and 2 gun mounts

[whole crypt]

that's what I think too, it's just that the wording has never shown up before so I'm not sure

maybe see what EN calls it

[sweet delta]

Why not just see what LUA calls it

[whole crypt]

because I'm not a ⛏️ er

[stark quiver]

she has fp buffs, high fp, two gun mounts

nnt isnt a picker

[sweet delta]

A ship could theoretically have 10 main gun mounts and still prefer 76 single blue

[whole crypt]

don't equate that directly to "use peashooter"
she still does more than decent gun damage
using peashooter is only delaying what could have been a gun kill to later peashots or needing to wait for the barrage proc

[sweet delta]

And a ship could theoretically have 1 MGM at 69% efficiency and still prefer a damage gun

[brave canyon]

number of MGM won't favor either gun, same as reload both are just multipliers on total dps

[brave canyon]

this is true but I don't think AOAs differ so much that would be the case

it mainly boils down to main gun mount efficiency and AOA damage

I guess rld matters because of breakpoints on the 76

[opaque galleon]

Is moskva’s damage good or is she just a weird ship without a niche?

[tulip tinsel]

She's not even out yet

[hidden pasture]

can i obtain 200 cubes in the banner duration

[tulip tinsel]

No datamine yet iirc

[stark quiver]

i think you recalled wrong

[opaque galleon]

Check pins

[onyx flame]

Doable esp since there the commission event for cubes going on still

[opaque galleon]

No barrage numbers last I checked though

[hidden pasture]

👽 i only have enough to buy 5 now

there's 40 in the comm event right

[onyx flame]

60

[hidden pasture]

60?

[onyx flame]

60 cubes total, 2 10s, 2 20s

[hidden pasture]

ohhhh okay

[slow fox]

Uhhhh

Napolimogger?

[onyx flame]

[whole crypt]

moskva tankgood

[hidden pasture]

👽

[whole crypt]

(expected)

[hidden pasture]

whats the pity for UR

[nocturne glade]

200

[whole crypt]

200 builds in banner

[robust onyx]

200 draws

[slow fox]

We are crazy, dipping into Chinawall for nominal eHP 😭

[tulip tinsel]

So Moskva tanks good?

[hidden pasture]

200 for 1 UR?

[vale spindle]

200 builds = 400 cubes = 1 UR

[nocturne glade]

yea

[sweet delta]

So it's time for Portland to be retired in favor of Napoli as the benchmark?

[hidden pasture]

do we have 50/50 in UR banner

[nocturne glade]

no

[brazen finch]

datamine is updated

[hidden pasture]

100% get the rate up?

[onyx flame]

~~The only 50/50 is if you get her or not ~~

[whole crypt]

she should tank good

[vale spindle]

datamine is updated with most things

[vale spindle]

the pity is guaranteed 100% yes

[north gorge]

Game too old for that, enjoy your 1.2% rate

[whole crypt]

do we know if it's actually AA circle based on ⛏️

[vale spindle]

wait for thorin to become active and ping him

[opaque galleon]

AA circle buff is huge but moskva herself has poor AA right?

[hidden pasture]

whats that

1.2 UR rate?

[onyx flame]

The odds to get a ur from 1 pull

[whole crypt]

above average

399AA and 135% slot

it's 100% if you build 200 times

[opaque galleon]

That’s under Z52 isn’t it?

[ripe yoke]

OP Siren fleet building help

[whole crypt]

Z52 is more than above average

Z52's AA stat is lower btw

[opaque galleon]

Yeah but 50% self AA buff

[whole crypt]

yes, and also a ghost AA gun

[opaque galleon]

Yes

[whole crypt]

she's considered AA carry tier, or almost

[opaque galleon]

And she has tank, buff and heal to low health ships too

[whole crypt]

she's roughly Plymouth range, Moskva is way over that for eHP

[sweet delta]

kimocheese was right all along

drake > hinden gun

[brave canyon]

it's rough if you don't have cubes saved up, just save as much as possible

[limber oriole]

Curiosity question:

Does anyone happen to know why the bosses during meta showdown are harder when doing it from the Boss List (i think its the one players globally do the request help thing?) than opposed to doing it through getting cordinates from OpSi? Maybe I'm not paying attention, but aren't they the same level?

[north gorge]

You get artillery support (free dmg) when doing your own boss

[limber oriole]

Oh ya. I keep forgetting. But does the artillery really contribute that much? I lose around 30k damage.

[whole crypt]

for what though

[north gorge]

It's definitely noticeable

[onyx flame]

Only 30k? i lose like 100k ish with no supporting barrage

[sweet delta]

for investment

[opaque galleon]

It’s like 10 hp bars

[whole crypt]

why because now moskva gun strips hindenburg gun?

[limber oriole]

Damn. I drop from like an average of 110k damage per sortie to around 83k

[whole crypt]

after two and a half years?

[limber oriole]

Thats kinda wild it adds THAT much damage

[stark quiver]

mfs need supporting barrage to one shot 😭

[limber oriole]

I did not know that

[onyx flame]

Even with support barrage i need 2 shots

[stark quiver]

dear god

[limber oriole]

I sometimes need three if i forget to equip guns

[stark quiver]

i do 0 shot now because i just skip it

[opaque galleon]

True

[hidden pasture]

can someone tag me once the maintance complete :b

[limber oriole]

They ping anyway?

Just turn on pings for the server

[hidden pasture]

idk ab that tks alot <33

[opaque galleon]

#game-news

[opaque galleon]

Don’t you just go Laffey eldridge for high vanguard pressure and AA content?

[slow fox]

holy eHP powercreep

[limber oriole]

I wonder what the new UR is gonna be like :)

[hidden pasture]

is she good?

[limber oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/context-context-hat-i-require-context-soyjak-wojak-gif-11496174374422496290

[onyx flame]

So far everything points to very good

[rain bobcat]

isnt it just ehp and slow

[slow fox]

Moskva is projected (by me) to be the tankiest vanguard ship in the game, so far.
-# Unbuffed by external factors
-# Without activating her secondary skill

[opaque galleon]

She will be a very good campaign ship

[whole crypt]

Moskva also happens to enable Nakhimov
actual use case is going to depend

[rain bobcat]

used napoli once since her release and that was 14-4H doubt anything is changing

[limber oriole]

By like how much? Just a smidge or by a noticeable degree?

[slow fox]

She is perhaps 0.03 Portlands tankier than Napoli.

-# Statements dreamed up by the absolutely deranged

[limber oriole]

Isnt that like nearly battleship amounts of just raw hp?

[opaque galleon]

More

[limber oriole]

Jesus

[slow fox]

She does have battleship amounts of raw HP.

[limber oriole]

😭 jesus

[slow fox]

That is not important. She does have light-cruiser amounts of evasion.

[whole crypt]

is it just considering base HP, EVA and the damage reduction from frost carve?

[hidden pasture]

👽

[limber oriole]

Is that good or bad or just ok?

[brave canyon]

o fuck i need to finish this event

[limber oriole]

Idk what the avg for CL is

[slow fox]

Yes. Her other skill REDUCES her damage reduction by 10% per other ship sunk.

[rain bobcat]

good but doesnt matter

[limber oriole]

The hell are they thinking 😭😭😭

[whole crypt]

I'm just going to ignore second skill for now

[opaque galleon]

Isn’t it 20%?

[rain bobcat]

ships way less tankier can tank all content fine and outside of slow if she doesnt do much dmg she's a benchwarmer like napoli

[opaque galleon]

But doesn’t work for transferred damage

[rain bobcat]

it really doesn't add anything in the grand scheme of things

[whole crypt]

it's 20% reduction per ship up to 3 stacks
but you also take all the damage the offending ship takes

[opaque galleon]

Does transferred damage get evaded with moskva’s eva?

[limber oriole]

I thought napoli did good damage, or did she just kept powercrept that much?

[slow fox]

Yes, it's 20% damage reduction to her self-damage taken, but she then takes the damage of the other ship, which is something like 25% more damage.

[slow fox]

Yeah, it doesn't change too much, anyways.

[whole crypt]

the skill also only procs on NP ships so in practice if you don't have any other NP vanguards it doesn't do squat for her reduction

[opaque galleon]

Napoli can smoke for the rest of your vanguard

[whole crypt]

in fact if you don't have other NP ships in fleet skill 2 looks like it does exactly nothing

[opaque galleon]

There aren’t many NP vanguards worth their salt

[limber oriole]

I guess I misunderstood then

[whole crypt]

main fleet too, if for some reason Nakhimov takes more damage than your vanguards

[opaque galleon]

Volga

[strong tartan]

how is moskvas gun compared to hindens

[whole crypt]

or that, if in a relevant campaign setting

[whole crypt]

slightly better in general

[limber oriole]

Cowpens?

[north gorge]

#gameplay-help message

[strong tartan]

interesting

[slow fox]

Yes. Indeed, that is why I decided 2 entries for that consideration.

[whole crypt]

which is good I guess for once there's a skill that you can clearly ignore earlier on

only really considering her use with Nakhimov in bossing now anyway

[opaque galleon]

But 75% damage reduction is funny

[opaque galleon]

It’s not like nahkimov and soyuz are actually getting separated though right?

[whole crypt]

the most likely scenario if the skill goes off at all is you have 2 shit NP vanguards that almost die and give you that reduction, but you subsequently also end up taking full damage from those vanguards

Nakhimov is no longer tied with Soyuz as of Moskva

you can consider swapping for Lion, or moving her into a full CV fleet etc

[limber oriole]

When is a soyuz rerun likely? I wasnt around when the event ran last time (or for the first time, I have no clue)

[whole crypt]

Soon™

[opaque galleon]

The next best choice for 3cv anti medium is Essex isn’t it?

[onyx flame]

Most likely april or may somewhere

[whole crypt]

it's possible to be mid March after this event, we just don't have the schedule

[onyx flame]

Damn ur rerun right after ur event brutal for cubes

[whole crypt]

that they announced it and nothing else means there shouldn't be any other reruns in the way

[rain bobcat]

its normal

[limber oriole]

I usually get pretty luck as long I have at least 90 cubes

[rain bobcat]

first 6 months is always back to back to back UR

[whole crypt]

yes, even if they spaced it out to April or May you'll likely need to decide on skipping a rubbish banner or the possibly DOA collab3

[stark quiver]

i dont even need to pull on the rerun so it doesnt matter

[onyx flame]

Well i got 900 cubes so i live at least

[limber oriole]

Can I have some?

[slow fox]

Which is something like double the damage.

[onyx flame]

~~Ask the even older players ~~

[whole crypt]

it's still kind of up in the air but just as an example Nakhimov/Mokva could probably go into an antiheavy for stoppage over Implacable

or like I said you could replace Soyuz with Lion or something

[opaque galleon]

Z52 also gets replaced then no? Cuz Lion will want Plymouth to remain

[whole crypt]

it's always been an and/or thing

[opaque galleon]

I suppose so

[whole crypt]

well, level Moskva first fiddle with fleets later, next META is light anyway

barring some very strange or annoying gimmicks it's probably going to be built around Kear/YT II/Lex II/WDP

[limber oriole]

Wdp?

[onyx flame]

Willam d porter

[limber oriole]

Ahhh

[opaque galleon]

Deportee

[limber oriole]

How good is porter? I heard a little bit she has some niche use but that was like the week she came out so idk whats changed on that

[opaque galleon]

She’s got high AA and a very sizable timed buff for us ships

[onyx flame]

Shes basically a us traf ish

[limber oriole]

Is she better in a US fleet than traf?

[opaque galleon]

No lmao, WDP deports Z52

[limber oriole]

I see

[brave canyon]

she has quite high personal damage, some dmg support, good AA and a bit of innate tankiness

been absurdly good for me but I can't vouche for lategame

[whole crypt]

her personal damage is ok, but her damage support is great for USS fleets

considering she tagged along Lex II forming up the current top anti-light that's very potent

[hidden pasture]

does a no lb UR better than a mlb elite

same type same position

[opaque galleon]

No

You need to have MLB to compete in slot

[hidden pasture]

mlbing a ur sounds hard

[opaque galleon]

It is mostly time gated

[brave canyon]

we all get a quite slow trickle of MLB URs, use those Bullins wisely

[hidden pasture]

i didnt even have an ur bulin

xD

[opaque galleon]

Prayge for dupes then ig

[onyx flame]

You get 1 from the event milestone

[brave canyon]

try buy out the shop before end of month

[opaque galleon]

And try to buy protocores from the medal shop

[onyx flame]

Spec core but yes

[hidden pasture]

i dont even have enough medals xD

i think i'll send some rares to oblivion

[onyx flame]

Grind more and retire map drop blue/purples

[hidden pasture]

alrighty

[wary robin]

Moskva crossfleet barrage also has snare effect?

[hidden pasture]

wait the maintenance go on for 8 hours right

[sweet delta]

what are your assumptions for Moskva solo?

[whole crypt]

shouldn't that just be the first row

[sweet delta]

i am not seeing 166%, should be around 150%

[whole crypt]

maybe overestimating s1 reduction?

since only 1 enemy ship is going to be actually affected at any one time

[slow fox]

15 dmgred 10 evaboost

[whole crypt]

practical dmgred is going to be less than 15

can't say for sure how much less though

[slow fox]

Oh let me reread skill

Eh. For boss only

Is 15 dmgred

Unless uptime not 100%

[sweet delta]

cannon damage only, 100% uptime single boss

[cobalt gate]

so Moskva seems to be almost pure defensive?

[sweet delta]

what about hp, eva, luck, armor, and gear?

[slow fox]

Gear same as CA/L/B.

HP EVA LCK ARMOR same as datamine.

[slow fox]

The dmgred is against FP-scaling only?!??

[sweet delta]

i have here that moskva evades 15-18% more than Guam does, with rudder beaver

Guam has a ~10% hpboost from barrier

somewhere in 150 to 160?

[slow fox]

My calcs are opaque even to me 😭😭😭

I need to retrieve evade rate either heuristically or manually

[stone lava]

do we have datamine yet

[slow fox]

Because Moskva has 80 base EVA
Guam 55

Delusional amounts of EVA

[sweet delta]

it's ok just change the dmg reduction to FP only

[slow fox]

Is this elite ball knowledge not available on datamine

[sweet delta]

it is available by combining datamine with elite ball translation skills

or just elite ball datamining skills
buff_152144, init_effect=jinengchufablue
BattleBuffAddAttr, {attr=DMG_FROM_TAG_1_Frostmark, number=-0.15}, [onAttach]

[slow fox]

Assuming half incoming damage is FP damage-

[slow fox]

literally right

[brave canyon]

less tanky than Ancho?

[slow fox]

0.01 Portland less tanky than Anchorage

[brave canyon]

boys she aint the thicc girl of our dreams

[slow fox]

100 Moskvas + 1 Portland is as tanky as 100 Anchorages

[onyx flame]

Tanky enuf

[hidden pasture]

Mosvka good or nah, does she has a place in the meta

[stark quiver]

nobody even has her

[hidden pasture]

-_-

[cobalt gate]

Need to wait and see. Seems to be defensive ship, but has like a wasted skill if no other Soviet ships

Seems to have a good cross fleet

Hmm I wonder how many Soviet ships to run

[sharp ice]

So, I didn't managed to get Chang Wu. Now I can only wait for her to be add to Permanent Construction Pool like Huan Ch'ang and Chien Wu?

[eternal basalt]

She will be added to perm next year

[sharp ice]

I can only hopes I do get her when that comes....But it will be no boost in her drop rate...

[strong tartan]

hope and pray for next years wishing well 🙂

[sharp ice]

Ah, Wishing Well! I can see the Light of Hopes now!

[whole crypt]

or just wait for her to slip through on a heavy based banner after perm

so Gangut META has some funky fast-firing mechanic?

[wary robin]

Gangut had mechanic focused on her gun, meta version focused on killing mobs

[onyx flame]

would be funny if the meta version still needed her gun

[rain bobcat]

wait 155? wasnt she more earlier

[whole crypt]

yes

apparently mebot thought it was a flat 15% dmgred which it isn't

[woven star]

And if translation correct this mechanic sounds like joke. You should stay in this stage without firing until fleet sunk 3 enemy and than you'll get 35% cdr

[whole crypt]

well current numbers are still fairly tanky

[whole crypt]

yes but you also need to shoot to proc barrage, which isn't 100% until it procs twice

[tulip tinsel]

So is Moskva only tank no main fleet buff?

[whole crypt]

feels really lame because there's basically nearly half chance of not having 100% barrage by third

[cobalt gate]

Also the 35% from how I read is 1 shot then you have to kill 3 enemy again

[woven star]

Yeah. And some buff expired after 4 shots.... nice ship

[whole crypt]

ah well off to the dumps, at least skilling only takes 5 T3s for each skill

[cobalt gate]

Well the 8 sec buff gives the people that will die in 8 sec a 10% hit buff

[whole crypt]

5% AA debuff and a slow that should work with Nakhimov

[woven star]

When you finish loading (mean you can shooting) and then get 3 stacks from sunked ships you'll get 35 reload and loose stacks

[whole crypt]

just pretend skill 2 doesn't exist, it only works with NP ships and right now I don't think we have a viable second vanguard after Moskva in any sort of serious setup

[cobalt gate]

Yeah but only for 1 shot then it resets right?

Doesn’t 2nd skill work with main fleet as well

[whole crypt]

it does but in no practical scenario would I expect Nakhimov to be the one in danger of sinking

much less Soyuz if you keep her

[cobalt gate]

I mean main chap enemy bb do crazy dmg

[whole crypt]

yes but you won't be using SoyNakMos

unless you wanted to I guess

[cobalt gate]

The main thing I’m wondering is does the ships being protected by Moscow die after 8 sec only if Moscow die or will die regardless

[woven star]

You need to be with shell in the barrel (preload) and after that stack will be counting. Any way will see on live

[whole crypt]

Gangut M's s2 is basically

• when ready to shoot start prepping stacks
• if kill 3 mobs clear stacks and 35% faster next shot

so it's an okay-ish fast-firing mechanic assuming her salvos kill, barrage not too reliable

but if the shots don't kill she's basically does nothing till next cycle

[woven star]

I wouldn't play on auto with this ship

[whole crypt]

you're not likely to be using her in a fight where the skill can proc 4 times

[whole crypt]

ships die after 8s regardless AND if Moskva dies

so if 8s lapses, ship dies
if within 8s Moskva dies, ship also dies

I guess if it was a boss fight and you have either Soyuz or Nakhimov shaving close towards end of fight

[woven star]

This skill will work if not this will not be for SN ships only

Sometimes I got situations whem my back line died with full vanguard

[whole crypt]

I'm fully aware of the environment in 14+

this thing keeps your ship alive for 8 more seconds meaning if it happens early in a fight you're screwed anyway
if this was a mob fight and your ships don't tide over till end of fight you're also screwed anyway

and specifically only if you happen to be using a NP ship where it's relevant

Volga is basically no longer relevant after Cowpens

[woven star]

Hm. I guess I missread. My bad. GangutM enter in stack stage after finish loading but exit from after 3 stacks. She can get stacks from enemy sunk ships by fleet. She'll get anyway her stacks if enough enemies sunk

[whole crypt]

just some weird fast-firing gimmick without any significant damage penalties I guess

4 times is plenty considering fights don't usually go that long

[woven star]

I got some sunked backline ships on boss in w14-3 Hard right before end of the fight cuz enemies BBs poke out them

8 sec will be enough for them to finish loading and fire

[cobalt gate]

The np faction thing is really limiting till better np backrow comes

Might be her gun more relevant than the ship

[woven star]

Cowpens still limited ship while Vola in perma. Anyway I don't have Volga but Cowpens. No cares

[inland shoal]

Added barrages and detailed skill information to datamine (both are in the same tab)
Also fixed a few skill descs that were wrong

[whole crypt]

do we know if Moskva's blue skill is actually +5 range to circle?

[vast turret]

What color skills does she have?

One red one yellow one blue?

[inland shoal]

I didn't check it myself, but someone who looked at the code said it is

[boreal wagon]

hi im that someone

[whole crypt]

hi someone

[fair lance]

hi someone

[forest palm]

Moskva lookin like fun

[wind hazel]

moscow powercreep napoli in tankiness?

[vast turret]

Moscow equal to napoli?

[plain saffron]

who's someone

[whole crypt]

we don't know yet but numbers say roughly Anchorage level of durability
DPS wait for testing
also brings AA and slow debuff which should work well with Nakhimov

[hidden pasture]

whats the d word

[mighty tulip]

For UR events, how many times should you pull a day since it’s 2 weeks? Or do people just normally blast thru their cubes? I have 500 cubes atm 👀

[onyx flame]

depends if you dont have a lot of coins, you can just do 3 pulls a day till the last day then dump till you get her

[mighty tulip]

Heard, okay i’ll do that then. Thanks 🙏🏽

[hidden pasture]

why 3 pulls a day

whats the purpose

[sick kettle]

daily quest

[hidden pasture]

oh alr

[onyx flame]

There a daily quest that gives you event points

[hidden pasture]

i see

[eternal basalt]

On reruns 3 a day gives 7 cubes. Profit

[plain saffron]

datamine

[white agate]

i just do like 100 pulls the first day, then i do 3 daily and end to pity, but thats because i am above 1000 cubes

and behind on UR bulins

[eternal basalt]

Don't have 220k specialused core?

[white agate]

no, but once i get to alsace rerun i'll have all the UR ships mlb

since i will gain 2 bulins for mogador

[whole crypt]

I only have 160k

[eternal basalt]

Don't count on that seeing the Laffey rerun

[white agate]

should be easy to farm event points

i don't even need the meta ship so thats more points toward the 2nd copy

tho i need a 2nd mogador gun

[forest palm]

I use my SP cores from time to time to raise UR trophies

[faint glacier]

are event rainbow guns ever added to perma obtainable or anything like that? :o

[whole crypt]

yes but they take a while

[white agate]

like 3 years or a bit more i think

[eternal basalt]

Gear Lab, Core Shop (Limited)

[whole crypt]

the last event UR weapon that was added was Mk7?

[faint glacier]

ah okok ty

[white agate]

and that is not core shop limited, but lab gear unlimited, but then we got the admiral table being limited

tho maybe only because it was an aux and gear lab does not have aux

so maybe next ur gear gets added to gear lab

iirc it should be the plane of the impla event?

[eternal basalt]

That is a plane, so gear lab

[white agate]

anyway its a gold one , guess the next UR is for the event after impla

[whole crypt]

what plane did Revelations of Dust bring again

[eternal basalt]

I believe. There are older UR...

[whole crypt]

and yeh I don't remember there being rainbow

[kindred arrow]

i'm still mad about the gamer table being limited

[white agate]

yes, i thought impla older

[hidden pasture]

this game is all ab timegated or what

[whole crypt]

no timegates for this event format

[eternal basalt]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Fairey_Firefly_(1771_NAS)

[hidden pasture]

great

[white agate]

next gear probably is sashi gun if its not already there

[kindred arrow]

Not there yet

[whole crypt]

that's the thing... it isn't

[eternal basalt]

And event stuff like collab, gears of events they don'tvtalk about and skins...

[whole crypt]

maybe next lab update

[eternal basalt]

Still mad I missed Belfast skin by DAYS and it never reran ever

[kindred arrow]

All skins (except collabs) rerun on black friday, don't they? we even got the forbidden EN skins last time

[white agate]

not even on black friday?

[whole crypt]

wasn't belfast skin a pocky collab or some shit

[frank phoenix]

Game should come out of maintenance in an hour and 15 min,right ?

Maybe +1 hour or so xD

[onyx flame]

in theory yes

[soft raft]

Assuming there's no extension, yes

[hidden pasture]

will we have a event guide in later days

like what to push, what to do everyday...

[whole crypt]

run a1-3
run b1-3
run and repeat d3 if you can

[soft raft]

^

[onyx flame]

grind event. highest stage you can till you reach the points amt you want, the back to campaign

[hidden pasture]

so d3 is b hard mode right

[soft raft]

yes

D stages are also the ones with oil cap which is why it's strongly reccomended to grind there if possible

[hidden pasture]

would be great if i can beat it with my lv 75~ fleet

[whole crypt]

probably not

D1 should already be in the 80s

[soft raft]

You probably cant

[hidden pasture]

cracked