gameplay-help

[whole crypt]

this is my whole setup for safe grind

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[cloud panther]

fuck off this isnt MR BEAST

[keen owl]

Yikes

[rain bobcat]

just get a job you'll get that $2500 easy

[keen owl]

What job is that?

[cloud panther]

AL moderator

[keen owl]

2500 a day?

[stark quiver]

a drug dealer

[cloud panther]

no illegal pls

[keen owl]

At Minnosota Ill pass

[rose whale]

Thanks, will try this out

[keen owl]

I dont have Essex kai cause didnt like doing minigame didnt know they put it there and i didnt read announcement.

Is Full CV on boss fleet good should i replace Lion?

[cloud panther]

show meowficcer tab

[cloud panther]

tempesta cats should be better eh?

[cloud panther]

I use drake bisha mob / avery bisha boss

[keen owl]

But will loss 15% To torp or BB shot the enemy

[whole crypt]

that's the sub fleet's job

I mean if you have at least one fire and mountain between those two it's ok I guess?

[keen owl]

Have this skills they are kinda random

[whole crypt]

not sure what's wrong if you're getting creamed between 2 mountains, gear we talked about earlier

[keen owl]

My Avery is still 29

The AA gun accuracy on Uni?

[whole crypt]

and bomb fighters

your Aquila and Unicorn were using G3R1s

[keen owl]

So i should La9 or Hornets flapjacks or is HVAR Cats ok?

[whole crypt]

flapjacks

[keen owl]

Ok gonna Flapjack then thanks

[rose whale]

Will getting wolfpack subs to 125 help with their damage in w16?

[whole crypt]

you'll at least be getting more level advantage so yes, but as far as I can tell they're not enough to kill the entry boss for -1 and -2

[rose whale]

Ah I'm using the us subs + i404 for that entry boss, they are all 125

[whole crypt]

shouldn't really need subs for the actual fights

[rose whale]

👍

[cloud panther]

I use 404 Amity Mary cuz I cant afford more than 2 new torp

but good thing is I can reset until there is the S

[wintry cedar]

Hey guys is 12-4 still the best stage for xp farming?

[whole crypt]

essentially yes

[narrow arch]

Is the prototype triple 203 something I should get for Portland, im now to the point where the most i can do for her is start getting good gear as I push to W15

Since I cant get a gold twin iron blood gun for the life of me

[whole crypt]

you shouldn't be pushing to 15 with Portland, she's someone you should be trying to replace by 13

[narrow arch]

Who would I replace her with?

[whole crypt]

Guam and Laffey II coming next week, or tank ships in research

[narrow arch]

I dont have cubes

What should be my first tank in research

I almost have St Loius from all the eagle ships I use lol

[rapid summit]

When is amagi cv again?

[whole crypt]

should be rerunning late this year

[rapid summit]

Dam unfortunate

[whole crypt]

there'll be tickets
also Laffey II is shop

[narrow arch]

Ah cool

[whole crypt]

just spend some time grinding in ch12 while you collect more ships and gear

[narrow arch]

Alright

[paper nebula]

can someone please lead me to what gears are for which ships or what gears are good for each type of ships kinda thing i cant seem to find it ... i mean the resource for it

[narrow arch]

On the off chance something weird happens and I can't get laffey 2 somehow, would st louis be a good fit to replace portland?

And should I save my UR bulins then instead of investing into Musashi for P II

[rapid shard]

No, best research ships to replace her would be Anchorage or Agir.

[whole crypt]

if Laffey II is a 10 Saint Louis is like a 5 at best lol

[narrow arch]

I see

[onyx flame]

do read the disclaimers
https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide/

[whole crypt]

you need to be working on newer series ships
if you can't unlock them then you're still way too early to even think about 14+

[paper nebula]

thank you very much

[keen owl]

@whole crypt what do i do with this?

[whole crypt]

pick this and make sure the base is inside the targeting bracket, then confirm

[keen owl]

Oh so not ditectly

[whole crypt]

again, this doesn't actually make any difference for now, but probably good to keep in mind if you still need to farm after they fix it

[keen owl]

Thanks

Btw What does the Sub VS Boss PVP do on 16-1/2 does it make the boss appear faster or something?

[tropic tusk]

how many do u need ?

[wind hazel]

can be 0, can be 12

[stark quiver]

2 +13 💀

[cobalt gate]

so how is cross fleet of porter? is it better than other frontrow crossfleet?

[whole crypt]

only 2

[whole crypt]

affects strength of concealment and if you kill you need one less mob fight for boss to spawn

[tropic tusk]

pvp

[whole crypt]

didn't feel that substantial especially area wise but it does come at a unique timing compared to other xf

[stark quiver]

pvp 🤝

[whole crypt]

you can imagine WDP coming in on her broom and just hitting a small spot like a rocket fighter

might be more useful for some specific encounters but I don't see it worth as much as a clearing tool compared to the other 3

[potent tinsel]

can I scrap +13 champy/flandre guns in favor of +13ing meck gun?

[wind hazel]

no lmao

[cobalt gate]

you only get like 25% of gold plates back if i remember correctly

[whole crypt]

yes

I can't guarantee you'll find use for the champagne and flandre guns again but that's just 90 plates directly down the drain

part of why I haven't scrapped my french AA to enhance more 76s

[potent tinsel]

Just kinda feels like gold plate income is really low compared to how much useful gear there is

[whole crypt]

somethingsomething you get roughly 360 plates in the time it takes to finish one piece of research rainbow gear

[potent tinsel]

Where is the 360 plates for event guns...

[whole crypt]

well not every event gear is rainbow, and we didn't count selectors

I mean I'm probably not going to +13 my corsair DB even if I'm going to end up using it in a boss comp

[grizzled jewel]

How do I destroy the land bases on 16-3 and 16-4? Airstrikes only work after I clear fog?

[whole crypt]

yes

[tropic tusk]

wait theres a 1day timer for reset?

[whole crypt]

it resets at midnight or something

[tropic tusk]

oh so it reset at daily reset time

for bb staff which better with or without soulful warrior as base?

wait a min do we have a cat id to look for?

[whole crypt]

you want at least one of soulful and flame to start with for a BB cat

[tropic tusk]

ok thx

[wind hazel]

rld kinda shit though so dont recommend to reroll that

[tropic tusk]

rip so i still stay with the other one for now

[wind hazel]

just use it until you get better one to reroll

[tropic tusk]

oh well

time to wait more

[whole crypt]

RLD on BB cat is a bit of a maybe, depending on where you use them, since they're not relevant for showdowns

[tropic tusk]

as of nnow im just getting cat casue i dont have a good / useable cat

[whole crypt]

well if given a choice, FP and HIT will be much more important than RLD on bossing cats

unless you're coping for some timing without tech

[crimson glacier]

0,

fuck my cheese is out of control

[whole crypt]

but again since it can't be used in showdowns it's really kind of whatever when it comes to the rest of the game for RLD timings

[tropic tusk]

well fp focus it is then

[wind hazel]

yes theres no need to complicate things. flame, soul, and fp fp fp. that's all

[tropic tusk]

[crimson glacier]

cats are kinda irrelevant anyway

[tropic tusk]

stupid island planner need to wait lvl 50 to unlock the rest of the helpers

[crimson glacier]

is there any reason to not just ignore the whole island

[wind hazel]

loneliness

[tropic tusk]

i mean its free item farming to affection

[rain bobcat]

you will get 100 aff just by grinding level

[crimson glacier]

if i need to actively do something then its far from free

[rain bobcat]

and dumping 100 of those things when they give you little each reset for oath 200 from 100 is stupid

[tropic tusk]

u will run out of oil

[crimson glacier]

how

[rain bobcat]

time is also money

[crimson glacier]

i get more oil everyday

are they going to stop giving players oil?

[tropic tusk]

its never enough

[rain bobcat]

definitely is

unless you go 200 oathing literally everyone ur not gonna use mail oil

[tropic tusk]

more or less that is the end goal

[wind hazel]

i dont know how you guys never run out of oil

you guys must afk a lot

[crimson glacier]

it helps that the mail has huge storage for it

[late flame]

can i has moar oil

[crimson glacier]

and like only place that actually consumes a ton of oil is w16

[late flame]

i literally have to wait until end of this week before i cam attempt w15 due to oil bankruptcy

[rain bobcat]

not really, I just farm until my stock oil is 12k all the time

I do that so I can claim weekly oil and get upto 18-20k oil every event time

[wind hazel]

i literally go on deficit if i actively grind daily

[ivory sigil]

can i have an example team of Hard 12-1

[whole crypt]

but my 16-4 runs are cheaper than my 13-4s

[wind hazel]

5 set of 12-1 is already 4.4k oil, that's more than daily oil regen

[rain bobcat]

you get like 4k oil daily, it's quite a bit

[tropic tusk]

wt do u have

[wind hazel]

4k is literally nothing lol

[late flame]

when i was seriously grinding events i was shelling out cash for daily oil

[whole crypt]

if you're seriously grinding 4k oil is only like 14 runs of 12-4

[tropic tusk]

please show ur box in thread filter by level and not type all of them in here

[ivory sigil]

I wish they allow me to switch which hours they give 8h comms so i dont have to worry about seeing 1h comms at midnight

[late flame]

same

[rain bobcat]

14 runs is already like 1.5hrs

[crimson glacier]

eu moment

[ivory sigil]

nah i mean your literally team

[tropic tusk]

theres alot of things i need to level up , and they are not for collection prepose , some are like monthy ca needed

[rain bobcat]

this is like ridiculously pointless

[whole crypt]

well there are folks that easily spend more than 1.5 hours on the game per day

[rain bobcat]

I can send you a fleet of 12 rainbows and that would achieve nothing because you have none of them

[ivory sigil]

I want to check the used ship to remember of their hull

Does CA had any ship with TRP stats anyway?

[whole crypt]

plenty

[ivory sigil]

Please gib example

[crimson glacier]

unzen

[tropic tusk]

my is random shit
2bb and unicorn for mob

[whole crypt]

Ibuki, Unzen, London, Shropshire

[rain bobcat]

basically 80% of non USS CAs have torps

[whole crypt]

more like 95%

[crimson glacier]

probably more common to have torps than no

[whole crypt]

it's pretty much the USS gun CAs and maybe the Zaras

[tropic tusk]

if u want pictuer u gota wait im currently looping

[rain bobcat]

ngl I don't consider london shrop because DD gun is better but technicality I guess 45 more torp+torp stat is good

[whole crypt]

yes but he's asking trp stat

[muted wind]

their TRP stat still contributes to stage requirements tbf

[whole crypt]

London and Shropshire is one way you can make up for TRP reqs while using a "gun" CA

[rain bobcat]

ticon and drek

[tropic tusk]

ya leveling up random ships in boss fleet

[whole crypt]

I don't even know what this is I'm fairly sure this isn't what I used to clear 12 hard

[tropic tusk]

seems like u only kept ur boss fleet

[muted wind]

looks like a pre-oil-cap boss fleet

[boreal wagon]

ironically its like 69%

[whole crypt]

nice

no updates for CN regarding the air base thing yet?

[boreal wagon]

they changed smth but idt its air bases

[rain bobcat]

it was musashi fight iirc

more shit hitting u now

[boreal wagon]

nah it was smth related to cats

[ivory sigil]

Thanks

1 final question: any example of Mainfleet ship that had TRP stats? (Beside the chinese ddg?)

[wind hazel]

BC

[rain bobcat]

kms people

[paper nebula]

what am i missing why cant i unlock the auto one on OPS?

[tropic tusk]

wt u mean auto

[whole crypt]

Amagi, Odin, Prinz Rup

[boreal wagon]

they also seemingly fixed chapter 15 air strikes

[tropic tusk]

wait ur daily mission is lock

[strange sphinx]

also I want to ask this question.
Well I'm not throwing Shades at AL lore because it some stories are from Events so.
W16 in terms of Real History, is this the Battle of Leyte Gulf?

[tropic tusk]

did u clear ur first time yet? the whole map

[whole crypt]

finish all of these markers, you need to finish the story to unlock auto

[paper nebula]

ahh i see

thank you very much

[whole crypt]

wherever Musashi was actually sunk
campaign is still following on from that "WW2 reenactment" shit

which should be leyte gulf yes

[whole crypt]

probably higher priority to fix 15 because it made things harder to clear, than to fix 16 to make it harder

[boreal wagon]

that or this joke of a mechanic is working as is intended

[crimson glacier]

they also broke something on w15?

how are w15 and w16 related

[boreal wagon]

the introduction of fog affecting airstrikes also broke chapter 15 airstrikes

[crimson glacier]

i see

[whole crypt]

# said devs acknowledged the bug there's currently no confirmation what the fix will be like

[boreal wagon]

the fix is to do nothing

[rapid shard]

What exactly are the airstrikes? I cleared 15 but never seen that mechanic

[whole crypt]

well they could fix it alongside adding clearing mode

[boreal wagon]

down where you can change your formation style (double line etc) you have a special airstrikes button in ch15 and 16

[rapid shard]

What exactly do they do?

[boreal wagon]

when used it basically functions like subs attacking the node in attack mode and takes off some hp of the node

[whole crypt]

and maybe changing how hard the bases hit you based on airspace control

[boreal wagon]

in ch16 they also destroy air bases (which currently doesnt matter if you have AS an up)

[rapid shard]

Well shit that would've made my life easier glad ive learned about them now

[whole crypt]

ch15 they also have that function you could use them to move enemy nodes

[boreal wagon]

my guess is that clear mode removes the waves anyway so they might pull something like that yeah

[whole crypt]

you sometimes used it to move a blocking enemy node so you don't have to fight it before going for the supercarrier nodes

does flare counter smokescreen?

[boreal wagon]

you mean the concealment one?

[boreal wagon]

i believe so but ive never tried

[rapid shard]

Makes sense. I fight super carrier then the one blocking to get some heals in before jumping straight to the second. For some reason VG was taking tons of dmg that couldnt see throu the plane spam.

[whole crypt]

well not like I'm bringing a flare ship but smoke is extremely annoying in terms of run consistency for 16

[boreal wagon]

all it does is halt concealment anyway

so it has the same "issue" as the flares in ch14

[whole crypt]

you have no idea how many times I watch the shells fly straight past musashi because that was when the kagerous spawned

[boreal wagon]

oh i know

its painful but also hilarious to look at

[whole crypt]

to be fair my boss runs are super stable now

it's the RNG on the 2 red nodes before it

[muted wind]

oh, i was wondering why the shelling sometimes went batshit and the same salvo fired into 4 different screen corners

[boreal wagon]

aim bias/10

[whole crypt]

it should be basically the exact same mechanic as ch15 smoke

(which in turn uses the same concealment aim bias from 14)

[muted wind]

i suppose i didn't notice back then, or the timing wasn't as perfect to cause this

[whole crypt]

anyway Lion/Cowpens/Aquila/Z52 is laughably reliable for the boss fight, you can beat the boss going in red on the main fleet

the problem is you can lose a carrier if you get unlucky with a suicide boat and some burns in the fight before it (and don't bother to reset it in time)

[crimson glacier]

you are 1 fleeting w16?

[whole crypt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jwEDrGa32w

[crimson glacier]

based

[tropic tusk]

i thought that was lethal

[crimson glacier]

solo vanguard fleets bring nostalgia

guess what else brings nostalgia? getting stuck in the fucking fog in strongholds

why is that still a thing

[muted wind]

-# spite

[ivory sigil]

Hmm

i have london lv70, if she sunk but in mobfleet would it affect the reward of boss fleet despite scored totally fine S ?

[tropic tusk]

no

[muted wind]

i don't think it'd affect anything you care about except ship drop reliability? and that's not really a concern except for *-4 anyways

[lime owl]

Is there any way to farm gold steam catapults?

[boreal wagon]

ship drop reliability only changes for the node she sunk in

[muted wind]

oh, i misread that. yeah, completely irrelevant then

[boreal wagon]

keep opening gold boxes, researches can also drop their blueprints and if you absolutely have to Fallen Wings (D3) and Steel Sakura (D2) war archives but thats not exactly recomended especially bc grinding gear blueprints is basically never recommended unless its event limited

[lime owl]

Ok thx <3

[ivory sigil]

thanks! wait u bring kurumi does that mean you beat it recently?

[tropic tusk]

i swap her just for leveling up lol can put anything

[ivory sigil]

ahkay, so other ship is the same, except kurumi

[whole crypt]

why would the boss drop matter you're not doing something that has a relevant boss drop

[tropic tusk]

u can litually put anything as long as they dont die lol

[whole crypt]

also if your mob fleet dies it doesn't affect your boss drop

[wind hazel]

but why die when you can live

[whole crypt]

low cost farming on safe, and no 2273 hasn't dropped for me

[tropic tusk]

look at my boss fleet

[tropic tusk]

wts 2273

[wind hazel]

why arent you lettin drake tank

[tropic tusk]

imma give that a try now

[wind hazel]

[tropic tusk]

my mob fleet

[wind hazel]

truly unicorn behaviour

[tropic tusk]

shes not yet max level

[ivory sigil]

cursed picture of me trying HARD12-2

[tropic tusk]

y not put uni in fleet 1 , boss fleet no need heal

[ivory sigil]

(forgot that london isnt enhance trp yet)

nah noway i dont bring london to bossfleet

[wind hazel]

maybe bring your sandy to boss fleet

[tropic tusk]

u dont need 2 healer ma dude either uni / cow and not both

[ivory sigil]

i think i need 1 to survive the mobfleet (london one)

[wind hazel]

[ivory sigil]

maximum london survivabily

[wind hazel]

dont let her tank then

[tropic tusk]

exp her to 100 at least lol

[strange sphinx]

b-but shiro said people die when they're killed

[ivory sigil]

i literally put 2 aux of torp on her, so even lv100 feel skeptical to survive at this point

[whole crypt]

Fujinami

[tropic tusk]

y is it call 2273?

[whole crypt]

easier to type than Fujinami if you know you know

[ivory sigil]

she dealing more dmg than my other choices, i only have half lb Lex2 and a lv80 indep

[tropic tusk]

u know if u put uni in fleet 1 and use that as a mob fleet then ur life would be more easy

[ivory sigil]

u want me to solo fleet?

[wind hazel]

i dont think that's the plan lol

[whole crypt]

have you considered just doing it later today, or tomorrow, after you level up a bit

[tropic tusk]

like wt is the point of these 2?

[wind hazel]

you should still put eva aux on london, just let sandy or laffey take the torp aux

[whole crypt]

he should absolutely just level up a bit more before trying to save all this trouble

[ivory sigil]

idk i thought today is a good day, or a bad day... or after i get guam and then... wait is guam CA

[strange sphinx]

why London is level 70 like dude she will die no matter

[wind hazel]

because he's desperate to reach the torp requirement

[whole crypt]

CB won't fit in CA slots

just chuck london another 10 or 20 XP packs or do it later

[ivory sigil]

-# i just MLB her yesterday from having her drop on farming 12-4

[whole crypt]

doing your 12-1 hard like a day or two earlier isn't really going to be changing anything

[wind hazel]

12-2

[whole crypt]

or that same shit

just take a couple of days to level up more and actually gear them up

[wind hazel]

eh, just try it really. put in cowpen and uni, london can survive

[tropic tusk]

y not add volga also might as well

[wind hazel]

[tropic tusk]

heal the living shit out of u

[strange sphinx]

[whole crypt]

1. what's the rush
2. if there are better ship options use them

[ivory sigil]

they already taken some torp aux

it is okay guys, i just wanna benchmark it abit

overall the coredata is just plus 2+ than the usual hard11

[wind hazel]

how many torp aux are you using total wtf

[whole crypt]

I'm not sure what you're trying to benchmark at all

[tropic tusk]

his forcing is way in

[signal inlet]

what's good buuild for porter?

[tropic tusk]

i assume laffy also has 2 trop

[ivory sigil]

sure, i go farming abit for trp to london and bench it later

btw i will get better ship like laffey2 later, who should i replace in the team?

[south sequoia]

Does getting hedgehog to +13 increase the base dmg

[ivory sigil]

[whole crypt]

+18% damage over +10 same shit as weapons

[tropic tusk]

how many UR bullions u got

[south sequoia]

ic ic

[ivory sigil]

iirc it should be 5, enough for 1 UR to max

[rapid shard]

Does make a noticeable difference, at least in W15

[tropic tusk]

wt urs u got? or u just want to mlb laffy2?

[scarlet cosmos]

How is yukikaze post augment?

[wind hazel]

become pvp meta

[scarlet cosmos]

I was thinking on using her as my secondary tank in w16

[whole crypt]

been doing it since ch14, pretty much no reason to not +13 it when the place where you want it the most is where subs really hurt

I can't say I'd recommend Yukikaze for late campaign

especially not 16

[scarlet cosmos]

I don’t know if my fleet is ready for 16-3/4 though. Would it be just a gear issue if I have good ships? Generally I use second best gear, but definitely not loaded with rainbows

[scarlet cosmos]

Oh I see, not enough damage or…

[whole crypt]

dogshit AA

[wind hazel]

it's the hardest content the game has to offer, so you wanna at least be prepped through and through

[rapid shard]

Yeah I didnt "need" it for 14 luckily but once I hit 15-4 I did notice that 18% made the difference between sub being stopped or hitting backline.

[whole crypt]

also no damage yes

[scarlet cosmos]

I see, is Op sci the best way to get rainbow gear then?

[whole crypt]

research and OS

[scarlet cosmos]

I just do my dailies,
Clear strongholds + map

[whole crypt]

specifically for rainbow AA gun is OS

[knotty jolt]

makes me wonder, what is the lowest standards you can go for w16 clear?

[rapid shard]

Also for 16-3/4 is all rainbow 76s mandatory? Or with proper golds and right ships enough to cover AA

[scarlet cosmos]

Ah is this prio?

[whole crypt]

I wouldn't say mandatory but as it is the top comps are all good AA ships with rainbow AA

[whole crypt]

depends on what you have/are lacking in

[ivory sigil]

yeah that's the plan... cuz the only UR that sound worthy enough

my UR is... what we got within 7 weeks

• plus a UR letter in my pocket 💌

[rapid shard]

Did you still have planes leaking with your setups?

[wind hazel]

do you guys use double line or circular 16-4 mob and boss

[whole crypt]

I mean with 1 vanguard yes I leak a fair bit, but during clearing with more ships I keep concealment a lot longer

both double line and circular working for me

[scarlet cosmos]

I know it’s dd vanguards in w16 honestly it might just be a case of I need better DDs

[whole crypt]

just to be clear clearing 16-4 isn't that hard

[south sequoia]

is there any set ups for 14-4hm where you can have air supremacy without losing out on dmg / backline survivability or nah

[pearl hare]

Doable without. I only have 3 76s, rest i gave staags

[whole crypt]

just the better you have the less RNG you're subject to

[rapid shard]

Ive got one atm and waiting for Guam rerun. Wondering if a Sextuple, 76, and twin 90 with stagg backline would manage it. I feel like suffering so gonna finish 16-1/2 tomorrow and try pushing to 4

[pearl hare]

You lose nothing trying 🤷‍♂️
Everyone wants answers without trying

I like the staags for the hit

[rapid shard]

Im thinking of trying cow Sashi Uni Laff2 WdP Eld for mob. Damn sure not gonna attempt lethal 3 star tho just wanna get safe to try to get Fuji

[whole crypt]

part of it is you're subject to RNG with suicide boat leaks and burns, you can see a very bad run and want to give up but it could also just be a smooth run once you reset that

[pearl hare]

"RNG" is just cope for being under prepared. W16 is very consistent if you have the gear for it

[whole crypt]

it's pretty much the same as 14 and 15 in that you need to watch the screen and reset the fight once you take a bad hit

[whole crypt]

very consistent = Cowpens losing 60% of her HP in a hit, sure

[scarlet cosmos]

are there any dds i can use outside of laffey 2 and eldridge for w16 at this time? I also have mogador and william d porter, but they are 0 mlb

[whole crypt]

also this talk of "underpreparing" is why we're talking about overpreparing everything

[rigid onyx]

thats a unique take

[rapid shard]

Hedgehog 1 depthcharge and 1 fairy enough for ASW? Or do you need to double on the planes?

[wind hazel]

my vanguard literally ram into the big boats twice in a row and enter boss fight with 30% hp, that's rng

[scarlet cosmos]

• mlb shimakaze, but i doubt she can do much 😭

[south sequoia]

If rng didn't exist I'm sure there is a guide out there with a 100% w16 winrate assuming everything spawns at 3 star

[whole crypt]

depends on the stage but I'd skip on the ASW plane if it costs you 1 fight because of not meeting the AVI req

[rigid onyx]

the macro spawns are very lite on rng but the bb nodes especially have huge variance

[whole crypt]

actually the 16-4 spawns as far as I can tell are all in the same spot with the same node size, it's just what node type you get

[wind hazel]

thought on this? vs -sandy +gouden

[boreal wagon]

some can vary difficulty too but the vast majority of nodes is just fixed

[wind hazel]

for 16-4 boss

[whole crypt]

just give it a shot, I personally prefer GL in this case

and if you do that's probably Eldridge mid

[rigid onyx]

eld mid wont proc enough imo

[wind hazel]

tried it, first two fight they rammed into big boat, 2nd try sandy died on boss, 3rd flawless

gouden better in your experience?

[whole crypt]

I actually never brought Sandy at all for 16

[wind hazel]

i copy renhex, but ren cat is also OP so im not sure

[whole crypt]

but GL is more durable and has some sort of heal compared to Sandy

[wind hazel]

indep xfleet is definitely helping with mob though, so that's nice

aight bet imma try gouden

[rigid onyx]

honestly the boss fight is practically solo'd by subs so I just put shinano mid to try to get less burn rng

[wind hazel]

i totally forgot to sub

do you need to move the sub to boss

[rigid onyx]

musashi is heavy armor

[whole crypt]

you don't if you have 404 or LdV

also boss fight is easier than all the mob fights

one of my boss fights ended like this

[wind hazel]

-4 also feel less cancer than -3 for some reason

[rigid onyx]

trvke

[wind hazel]

did you see how much oil is this per sortie

[whole crypt]

just the fact that you're not dealing with 2-3 waves of BBs trying to smelt your carriers already makes all the difference

[rapid shard]

What setup are you running on cow and aquila?

[whole crypt]

270+entry

[rigid onyx]

cow in boss is crazy to me she carried my mob lowk

[wind hazel]

damn that's totally nice. might do this few run daily

[rigid onyx]

or is that low cost farming

[whole crypt]

just to be sure this is safegrind I do have max tech

[rapid shard]

Yeah aint no way in hell im pulling off a low-cost on that stage with my tech im just curious what plane setups your running

[whole crypt]

should be something like flap+breguet

Aquila is on corsair/flap/spear

[wind hazel]

do you guys +13 your flap and breguet?

[whole crypt]

I do

[wind hazel]

how many set?

[whole crypt]

breguet is somewhat preferred in some cases because it's faster

[rigid onyx]

i dont but im also just waiting for clearing mode and not farming for the 16-4 drop yet

[whole crypt]

I think I have 2 +13 flaps and 1 +13 breg now

[rapid shard]

Ive got 2 flaps at 13 and 1 breg at 13 on cow that will stay on them forever lol

[whole crypt]

we don't talk about the other useless things I've wasted my plane plates on

[wind hazel]

i only have 1 1 now, might +13 another flap like you

5th la9 doesnt seem like urgent

[knotty jolt]

i have to many sky pirates enhanced past 10, not all are even max

[whole crypt]

well the good news is because of this shift in push comp meta I no longer need to worry about regearing Unicorn from OS

[rapid shard]

I did notice a pretty big jump on cow by taking the breget to 13 tbh just cause of the massive torp wave she sends

[wind hazel]

im using spear on her

[whole crypt]

you're basically bringing a breguet up to +10 wyvern level, while being faster

[rigid onyx]

+13 spears scale the best imo

[wind hazel]

maybe need adjust when low cost

[rapid shard]

Does spear have intercpet?

[whole crypt]

keep in mind the 18% also applies to the plane's guns

I took spear because it's faster (Aquila is slow) and the rockets help with shit like AA and repair ships

[wind hazel]

ok gouden is SO MUCH nicer than sandy

[whole crypt]

if I wanted Aquila any faster I'd probably need to +13 another breg but I already had a +13 spear

[south sequoia]

should i flagship musashi or lexington

[whole crypt]

for?

[south sequoia]

14-4 hm boss

musashi got nuked asap

[whole crypt]

that's strange

[south sequoia]

well not asap, but when fusou node spawned she got bombarded

[whole crypt]

well off flag is fine

LexII is also crazy durable

[south sequoia]

I just noticed eld is middle wtf

no wonder she wasnt activating rianbow

[whole crypt]

I've actually never really had problem with eld in mid

[tropic tusk]

how do u do that mission? logging tower 2 times

[whole crypt]

there's a lot of shit on the screen, she can just decide to not proc

[wind hazel]

oh hotfix patch

[whole crypt]

logging tower is the one you choose to spend ESD for adapts or smash for resources, you don't have to actually activate it just walk up to one when you see one

[boreal wagon]

its just the same patch cn got

[wind hazel]

what's the cat fix?

[boreal wagon]

i dont know

[south sequoia]

[tropic tusk]

oh ok thx

[wind hazel]

Liliweiss head has been cut off

[whole crypt]

show gear

[south sequoia]

For all backlines? or just sushi

[ivory sigil]

does EVA dodge enemy torp ? cuz i just see london hit 1 torp and her hp is 50% 💀

[whole crypt]

everyone, thread if you have to

[south sequoia]

imma just thread in case

hol on

[wind hazel]

idk

[analog tendon]

Does this mean it's still better to follow the Campaign section of the quick guide even for my campaign boss fleet (instead of the single target boss section)?

[wind hazel]

yes ST refers to boss like arbiter, meta showdown etc

[whole crypt]

this kind of doesn't apply until ch14

[south sequoia]

Cleo skill issue

[boreal wagon]

apparently its something related to changing cats in opsi idk

[wind hazel]

manjuu fixing content that nobody cares instead of fixing the real issues

[south sequoia]

posted my entire fleet gear in the thread

[wind hazel]

w15 airstrike fixed too?

[boreal wagon]

nvm chinese is just cryptic as hell its related to main campaign idk what that means tho

[boreal wagon]

supposedly

[whole crypt]

air base fix

[boreal wagon]

oh its war archive ig that makes sense cuz u can actually change cats there without using fleet presets

[wind hazel]

💀 war archives

[whole crypt]

this was 4 hours ago was there a new one

[orchid reef]

Fleet help

[wind hazel]

chatgpt almost got it right

[boreal wagon]

no thats the same

[whole crypt]

yeh it's 15 airstrike and war archive cat

my guess is archive hard mode cat reporting

since they store the event hard mode comp things

[boreal wagon]

ye

[winter plover]

what is the different between CL and CVL ?

[crisp wraith]

You means CV and CVL?

CL is a light cruiser, CVL is a light aircraft carrier.

CL go in the frontline, CVL launched planes from the back.

[winter plover]

oh yeah, CV and CVL

So the different is just about name ? Thank you

[ivory sigil]

1st pic is CV

2nd pic is CVL

they are different

[crisp wraith]

CVs (aircraft carrier) are heavier than CVLs (light aircraft carrier), usually have higher health pools, slower reloads, and have more planes in place of AA guns.

Generally (not always) CVs are your damage dealer while CVLs are more supportive.

[winter plover]

Sound familiar, same as heavy ship vs Light ship

[tropic tusk]

how about this one where can i find the record files?

[crimson glacier]

werent those explorable only

[eternal basalt]

#gameplay-help message

[boreal wagon]

depends on the file, even and odds are different

[analog tendon]

What makes the Helldiver https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/equips/id/19140 so much stronger than https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/equips/id/17280 that the latter isn't even mentioned in the guide despite being better in some stats and having a secondary effect?

[tropic tusk]

how do u even read that

[whole crypt]

depends on zone, some are fixed spwans on explorable, some are random spawn on secure

[crimson glacier]

just read this, and then follow the colors

[boreal wagon]

its not mentioned in any guide because its new (it was a limited equip just last event)

[crimson glacier]

there was that one tab that showed you your progress somewhere ingame

[tropic tusk]

ok thx

[crimson glacier]

the file system is probably one of the worst parts in the game to do blind

[boreal wagon]

i dont remember what the actual verdict of the plane was but helldiver does have more bombs and the secondary effect may as well not exist

[crimson glacier]

like how are you meant to figure anything out ingame

[tropic tusk]

how do i know which file im at?

[crimson glacier]

in the map screen press collection bottom left

[south sequoia]

Should I prio 3 meck guns or 3 la9's

[whole crypt]

gold corsair? best fast DB now for timing, if you have a relevant comp that still uses a DB for timing

[boreal wagon]

if gold corsair is the plane that guy linked then yes
i was just answering them

[tropic tusk]

imma give that try inabit in loop again

[crisp wraith]

What's your current progress on either?

[south sequoia]

For one I only started pr8 a few days ago when I finished off napoli and I only have 1 la9 with half the progress to go for a 2nd one

[crisp wraith]

If we're going only by equipment I'd finish up the La9s first, but I'd prioritize dev30-ing the PR8 ships.

Personally, at least.

[undone plover]

The archives should tell u what u are missing

Check and cross reference with the names

[south sequoia]

by that point I should at least have 1 meck gun if I finish off all of pr8, not to mention by this year la9 prints should be arriving in core shop i think?

[tropic tusk]

ok thx

[undone plover]

U can get 1 la9 from protoshop soon
2 is prolly enough for now
Get 3 guns and finish the pr8 DRs
Then can go back for more la9

[shadow yarrow]

Did they fix the w16 bomber bug

[whole crypt]

what bomber bug
if you mean the airbases not working at AS and above that's still not fixed

[orchid reef]

what emulator do i run so the game wouldnt have problems? and what version and etc

[onyx flame]

mumu

[tropic tusk]

mumu

wt is 5 assignments lol

[orchid reef]

tysm

[onyx flame]

island planner

[muted wind]

isn't that island planner related?

[tropic tusk]

its my first time seeing it

[late flame]

just ignore it

[tropic tusk]

i cant got ocd

[ivory sigil]

i almost thought it was 5 job application

[ivory sigil]

i regret doing 12-2hard, perhaps let just stick to H11 in several months

about the CA one that had TRP, maybe i will try it when i get Anchorage

[muted wind]

you're not missing out on much

[tropic tusk]

the only thing u probly miss is this awsome sharingan skin

[onyx flame]

if you dont mind restarting the game it removes the notif until you open island planner again

[tropic tusk]

but then again it has nothing to do with anything

[tropic tusk]

i see good shit

[rapid shard]

How tf can I get that

[tropic tusk]

battle pass s22 which u cant anymore

[rapid shard]

[ivory sigil]

guys what is the longest mail you have been kept in your account?

[rapid shard]

They never rerun the cruise UIs?

[muted wind]

they probably will whenever the stuff associated with that pass does. i don't think any pass that has been made "perma" had a UI skin yet

[tropic tusk]

they are new stuff so dont know yet

[late flame]

This is more of #al-general topic

[tropic tusk]

so far the only thing that battle pass item that has been renew are their meta ships

[rapid shard]

I did notice there a bunch of cruise gear skins you can buy. Im assuming thats old ones being made perm?

[boreal wagon]

anything in the cruise shop is from a past cruise pass

[muted wind]

yeah, i meant the metas, weapon skins, and ship skins.

[boreal wagon]

but cruise reruns are like 4 or 5 cruises behind and none of them had uis yet
(might be behind by more i cba to check)

[onyx flame]

more like 10+ behind

[tropic tusk]

no those were just add to be perma

[onyx flame]

gonna be a whole year or 2 then i can get neveda meta for that bb rld tech 😔

[rapid shard]

Im stuck waiting for Nevada meta anyway for bb rld

[late flame]

as someone who has bought every ui, the cruise ones are kinda meh imo

[tropic tusk]

i use it cause it looks like that eye

[rapid tusk]

To use High-Efficiency Combat Logistics Plan, do I have to click Repeat Sortie? Or can I just hit Go?

[undone plover]

Can just hit go
It will do 1 run (counts as 2 cuz of ticket)
Can also do repeat if u want

[whole crypt]

oh right HELPs exist maybe I should use some

[tropic tusk]

i wounder does @wind hazel have HELPs

[atomic solstice]

I have like 900

[late flame]

-# i have not used any since* 2023 lol

[atomic solstice]

spamming them feels good

[wind hazel]

[ivory sigil]

I only remember to stacking up HELPs until i wanna spam on something like WA

[wind hazel]

i have them i guess

[whole crypt]

I have more HELPs than my oil can handle so yeh

[tropic tusk]

so u dont have oil but u have that

[onyx flame]

well cant spend em if you dont got oil

[wind hazel]

got no reason to use them

[muted wind]

morale runs out first anyways

[rapid shard]

I just burn them doing 1:1 archive for collections

[muted wind]

-# too bad i don't need to do archives

[rapid shard]

-# must be nice

[whole crypt]

it's going to cost me 1163400 oil to spend all of them on my 16-4s

[onyx flame]

i should start using em for parallel

[muted wind]

oh great, i got 4222 of them. how nice.

[tropic tusk]

oh yea y didnt i use it on 15-4

[undone plover]

what do u guys run for 14-4h safe

i still get the odd A rank clear

[wind hazel]

i dont run 14-4h so idk

[undone plover]

i need the CV mats

[tropic tusk]

i only finish 12-4h

[wind hazel]

i cleared better with double bb

[undone plover]

yeah i used to fail before double BB occassionally
Now it is better but sometimes a rank

[wind hazel]

ran lion musashi essex

[undone plover]

that is what I am using but lion is on pvp gear

[wind hazel]

[tropic tusk]

swap it lol its that simple

there are preset saves also

[whole crypt]

you can't use HELP on 16-4 because no clearing mode

back to the mines...

[tropic tusk]

cant help if ur lazy @undone plover

[undone plover]

touche

[whole crypt]

your problem for not having dupes for every separate purpose like the big bois do

[undone plover]

i am too zoomer for this

i just got out of UR bulin poverty last event

[whole crypt]

when will gold plate poverty end

[forest palm]

keeping dups of specific CV so you don't have to oath everything in the land

[tropic tusk]

opsi fleet could i not use lion as flag?

[wind hazel]

sure

[tropic tusk]

could i swap with the iron blood one?

[muted wind]

i don't think any of those three care about positioning.
-# if anything, bismarck zwei in the center would give geryon a better position, but that's probably irrelevant overall

[tropic tusk]

i want the red hair to flag

[wind hazel]

go ahead

[tropic tusk]

3q

[eternal basalt]

She's called Mecklenburg

[rain bobcat]

burger number 2

their oath names are burger 1 and burger 2 for me

[cobalt rapids]

wdym by that

[muted wind]

their barrages aren't position-dependent, and their skills don't care either

[rain bobcat]

geryon spawns middle no matter what

[cobalt rapids]

why would geryon get a better position ?

[muted wind]

... wait, i thought geryon always spawned in front of bismarck? good to know

actually, i guess firing order would impact when eldridge does her slow, but that's probably not important here either

[rain bobcat]

zwei is there no reason to worry about slow

[tropic tusk]

<@&460646206851252224>

[rain bobcat]

get a job mate

[tropic tusk]

its auto send they cant see ur message

[trim depot]

does the sceptre skill apply to the airstrike that triggered it too

like does the avi stat boost apply

ok w

[zealous bough]

Should I be farming 12-1 now or waiting for the Guam event to save oil

[tropic tusk]

well ur going to need money to pull guam

[zealous bough]

True I didn't know if it was like the last event where u need to farm a lot of points

[tropic tusk]

this is a rerun so its easier

[zealous bough]

[shadow yarrow]

Is there a good campaign level for me to test different vanguards against each other? World 11?

[atomic abyss]

test in what sense

[sweet delta]

14 hard or 16

You test in the place where you want the results to be applicable. What do you want to test?

You also can't get relevant results from 11 because it's so easy, are you going to test level 100 ships against level 100 ships?

[shadow yarrow]

manual dps competition

Or is it better to use a boss as a punching bag?

[whole crypt]

1. we don't really care about manual
2. DPS depends on what you fight and different vanguards will perform differently depending on the encounter

[zealous bough]

Should it be 296 oil for a clear of 12-1

[onyx flame]

yuh

[atomic abyss]

if you test that, campaign is EXTREMELY unreliable

too many variables

if you really wanted to test

probably a meta showdown boss

or CM

[eternal pine]

hi what's the fastest way to get commander xp?

[atomic abyss]

play the game

with full fleets

[zealous bough]

Buy the pack to get to lv 70

[covert sierra]

Does SG radar and high performance air radar effect stack?

[sweet delta]

Proper fleet filling should give you enough recon stat to make both of their effects obsolete

[turbid marsh]

did the update fix the 80 suisei in the airport bug in 16-3/4? hopefully not cause thats 2 extra steps XD

[whole crypt]

the skill effects for ambush no
but you can also just skip ambushes completely by having enough recon value

[winter plover]

anchorage good on chapter 15 ?

[whole crypt]

decent

[crude kelp]

Is it worth when i finished pr8 and focusing only ur gear?

[ivory pawn]

Yes. The only caveat is how many cubes you have, and I don’t think you’ll have a problem on that front.

[crude kelp]

Gotcha

[trim depot]

11k gems

[zealous bough]

How do u get more auxiliary enhancement materials lol

[digital spade]

im having trouble with 14-3 hard boss, any tips or changes i should make?

[ivory pawn]

See if you have any ALL plates in your depot.
Keep farming whatever your farm stage is.
Keep an eye on Guild shop.
Remember to do Daily Raids.

[whole crypt]

fujinami isn't real she can't hurt me

[clear apex]

Can someone help me with fleet building I’ve been stuck on chapter 13-4

[rain bobcat]

I mean I doubt amagi and shinano are great for hard mode

just use lion+essex/fritz

[whole crypt]

isn't 14-3 boss DD

changing Daisen gun to purple 410 might be an improvement

[whole crypt]

start a thread and paste what you're using now

[clear apex]

how do I start a thread im on mobile

[whole crypt]

this button

[clear apex]

Help with 13-4

[red sapphire]

Hi, what should I mlb next? (Last one I did was Zwei). Also count with Laffey II and Guam (I can pity her if worth It)

Langley is the impostor there

[turbid marsh]

probably laff2.

[red sapphire]

Okay, thanks

[muted wind]

how is your state on tanks? i'm assuming DRs are filtered out. if you don't have anyone, i'd probably say guam after laffey ii

[red sapphire]

I've got Ägir, Plymouth, Anchorage and Tohka as (what I think are) front tanks

Not much more

[muted wind]

if you don't need the AA-focused side-grade, you don't need to prioritize guam if nothing else

[red sapphire]

I have all dal or atelier collabs

[red sapphire]

I have Shimanto I think she was good for AA

[whole crypt]

Plymouth isn't really a tank

she's just durable enough for tanking for anything less than 13

[muted wind]

yeah, but shimanto can't tank. a bulky AA ship is useful, and you don't seem to have anyone to fit that criterion. but... you can work around that so it's not a requirement

[red sapphire]

Do I have more options from shipyard or SR ones?

[turbid marsh]

doubt they as strong as laf2. go for laf 2 for now, highly doubt you have that many UR bulins

[muted wind]

goeden leeuw has mostly the same roles as guam, but i think she's a bit squishier? not sure. anyone else can back that up?

[turbid marsh]

tanking a boss fight sure shes a bit squisher.

[ocean terrace]

from the spreadsheet it says Leeuw is squishier but more damage overall

[red sapphire]

I just remembered couldn't I just use Sandy for AA?

[muted wind]

yeah, but once again, not tank. i was just saying that role compression is nice, but you can totally work around that.

[zealous bough]

Just got my first 125 ship do I keep them farming change them out since they don't get exp now?

[red sapphire]

I see. Guam would be a tank?

[muted wind]

yeah, tank + AA

[ivory pawn]

Take ‘em out of your farming fleet yep.

[red sapphire]

Okay, thank you

[muted wind]

i mean, either way, it sounds like you don't desperately need guam, so put her lower on your limit break priority

[rigid onyx]

guam and leeuw are about as tanky as each other

to be honest leeuw feels like a better Guam

[muted wind]

ah, yeah, i have the chart open. looks like she is just... slightly better across the board except anti-heavy? unless putting VH on guam helps in the given situation.

[turbid marsh]

i view leeuw as mob guam. XD

[red sapphire]

I can develop golden leeuw is she's better for this role

After fdg that I'm doing rn

[muted wind]

find someone to recommend that as a priority, because it ain't me

[hollow gust]

the chart is single target dps....

[muted wind]

i didn't look at the dps chart tbf, only the eHP one. i looked at the endgame rankings for damage

[hollow gust]

for a ship that relies on her aoe airstrikes

[ivory sigil]

accord to plus13 priorty... i need to do this?

or plus13 AFCTs is better?

[rapid shard]

Takes different plates but both good to +13

[onyx flame]

could also just save the plates till you actually need the +13

[whole crypt]

I wouldn't put AFCT as a high priority +13 unless you already strictly use BBs for bossing

you can +13 3 catapults for the same cost

[wind hazel]

main gun first

[whole crypt]

champagne gun is kind of nuanced... how well have you been keeping up with PR8 and making meck guns, because if you're already making good headway on that then there's not much point enhancing champagne guns past 10

[rapid shard]

Tier list is bugging out on my phone, is New Orleans and Houston2 decent golds?

[wind hazel]

he has 195 plates he's not gonna +13 a meck gun

[wind hazel]

no, just tech

[whole crypt]

so he can save another 165 plates

[rapid shard]

Good tech?

[wind hazel]

i forgot, think FP

[stone sluice]

12-1 is good for chips while 12-4 is good for exp and coins, right?

[wind hazel]

ye both fp

[rapid summit]

Not sure but I’m guessing Guam rerun won’t have that point system you get from doing sorties in the event?

[cobalt rapids]

7% more chips

[whole crypt]

it's the exact same event system

[rapid summit]

Exact same?

[whole crypt]

the difference with reruns is it'll have an older event shop that doesn't have the newest series of research prints, milestones reqs are halved, and there's more bonus points on clearing the event stages each day

[wind hazel]

you would still need a meck or flandre gun somewhere, he isn't gonna +13 2 meck gun anytime soon. having a +13 champy now is bigger benefit than waiting to +13 a meck a few months later. the dmg difference isn't that big either

[whole crypt]

as well as build tickets and some other freebies

[rapid summit]

So I can still hope there is a UR bulin in Milestones? Plus maybe 2 Laffey II in the shop?

[turbid marsh]

idk about 2 laffey 2 in the shop....

[wind hazel]

UR bulin will always be in the milestone

[rapid summit]

I’m lowk just hoping ngl

[cobalt rapids]

did they say anything about UR shop ship changes or is it glhf new skk ?

[rapid summit]

That’s good then

[wind hazel]

no info yet

we'll probably know tomorrow i guess

[whole crypt]

meck does 12.6% more damage on heavy than champagne and 4.2% more on medium
your first 35 plates on champagne gun does absolutely nothing vs meck gun for medium and the first 75 plates do nothing for heavy

[rapid summit]

Oh Shi I miscounted nvm I only need 1 Laffey II and 1 ur bulin that’s good

[wind hazel]

you should be comparing +13 champy to a +10 meck though

because he can +13 champy now. he can't +13 a meck

[whole crypt]

I can +11 a meck for that cost so why don't I compare a +13 champagne gun to a +11 meck gun, in which case champagne gun still does slightly better for medium and basically the same for heavy

but now you're down the plates spent on the champagne gun

of course this is on the assumption he's making good way with PR8

[cobalt rapids]

the question is, is there any content they are pushing rn that warrants +13ing the champy or they can bag those plates

[whole crypt]

of not then yes go and do those champagne guns

and yes that too

[wind hazel]

i guess +10 still work for campaign

[tulip tinsel]

Is there any difference in flandre and champy gun

[wind hazel]

slight dmg and timing

[whole crypt]

flandre slightly less damage but slightly faster

usually picked for timing if slower BB or lower RLD tech sort of case

[undone plover]

Flashbacks to la9 vs bf109 debate

[wind hazel]

laffey2 on news

[whole crypt]

except still no details
wait for patch notes I guess

[wind hazel]

this one la9 has way bigger gap though

all in for la9 worth it\

[undone plover]

Yeah I remember doing the math and assuming 3 strike vs 3 strike 1 La9 +13 was worth 3 bf109 +13

[wind hazel]

ye the gap is pretty insane

[ivory sigil]

i have 3333 purple token
how much does it take to clear the necessary stuff opsi?

(exclude the meta thingy)

[undone plover]

U can always exchange the yellow tokens for purple in one of the shops
Grab the high prio stuff see how much u are left with

[ivory sigil]

yea im following cheeky

[wind hazel]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Operation_Siren#Supply_Shop_Before_First_Reset

can calculate here, just minus those shitty item that you dont buy

[onyx flame]

5736 purple tokens

[analog tendon]

i currently have 26k chips and 2 ships stuck at lv100 that would immediately jump to 120 if awakened. Should i awaken them for the tech points?

[wind hazel]

more than i thought

[whole crypt]

if the tech they give is relevant sure

I'm running short on coins because all the grinding I've done these few days were 16-4

[red sapphire]

Meanwhile I can't find more ordinance reports to craft an UR

[undone plover]

Do u need the tech points?
Are they worth 120?

[onyx flame]

just do the no touch grass technique of c1 farming

[red sapphire]

Fr I should do that

[analog tendon]

I just checked their 120 tech and the answer is a big fat NO to either (unless +1 ASW and AA for Destroyers is more valuable than i though)

[red sapphire]

Is there any node where is better to do it? I will just let it do while I do university stuff

[undone plover]

If they are dd they wont give much faction tech points anyway
Find another source

Unless they are good ships that u plan to use
Then u can still awaken even with bad tech

[undone plover]

Better for what?

[red sapphire]

C1 opsi farming

[onyx flame]

There only 2 c1 nodes on the map iirc so either works all your hoping is for akashi to get back more ap

[undone plover]

Ah….
I think there is no diff between them tbh

[red sapphire]

I see. It's decided then

[onyx flame]

Then extra ap goes into c3
But your at the whims of akashi

[undone plover]

U can save some 10 sec per sortie with CN fast setup
But u forego the xp

[red sapphire]

The idea is cats thing right?

[undone plover]

For c1 the idea is cope for AP and xp
There is no cat nodes

[red sapphire]

I want the T2 ordinance testing reports

[onyx flame]

You run c1 to try print more ap, then with extra ap go to c3 for cat nodes and pray lot of it

[undone plover]

Your best bet is c3
But u will run out
If u are a believer can try c1
More AP to burn in c3 later

[red sapphire]

C1 is for getting more AP?

[undone plover]

Yes and “free” xp

[red sapphire]

Okay I see

Basically I spam C1 to spawn Akashi to buy more AP so I can do more C3?

[undone plover]

But T2 from cat node is pretty bad anyway
Honestly just dont miss your abyssals and shop T2
And dont waste them on gear u dont need

[red sapphire]

I did all that already

[undone plover]

What are trying to craft?

[red sapphire]

Tenrai

[undone plover]

How many do u have?

[red sapphire]

0

[undone plover]

Oh I see
U can get 1 from protocore

[red sapphire]

I'm farming for It but I need more

[undone plover]

Do u have catchup left?

[red sapphire]

One for Hakuhou, other for Shinano (and some day one for AvP I gues )

[undone plover]

2 is enough tbh

[red sapphire]

Yes, I'm doing so

[undone plover]

[red sapphire]

I'm getting the ones from Neputne to sell

[undone plover]

Tenrai is not used in 4 strike fleet setup for bossing
And also in mixed fleets
So only for 3 strike CV vs heavy and campaign

[red sapphire]

Yes, but I need them anyways

[undone plover]

[red sapphire]

For my fluffy ships

[whole crypt]

I use Tenrai to pad AVI for ACV

[red sapphire]

So basically next month, right?

Or can strongholds/hidden actually drop T2?

[whole crypt]

cat dives and abyssals can drop T2 ords

[red sapphire]

I cleared all abyssal so I'm left to cats

Lvl 30 and 21 is enought?

[whole crypt]

you can get more abyssals later in the month

[red sapphire]

Ohhhh how?

[whole crypt]

and obviously you can continue to farm dives

they can show up in daily mission rewards or you could get lucky with a cat dive

[red sapphire]

Oh, nice. Thank you. Let's see

[undone plover]

Try the extra opsi day trick if reset time is convenient to u

[red sapphire]

What is that?

[boreal wagon]

if you are still in opsi when the daily reset at the end of the month rolls around your opsi wont reset until you leave it and you get an extra set of dailies

(still it opsi meaning logged in and having opsi open)

[undone plover]

Go to opsi 1-5 min before monthly reset
Stay inside
Dont go out
Check daily missions for extra 6/7 missions
Cope an abyssal

[red sapphire]

Oh that's great thanks

Thanks for everything chat

[whole crypt]

I never remember to do that not that I really need to

[narrow arch]

Sheesh I only need one last UR bulin then I can MLB musashi

Which i should be able to get next month hopefully

[muted wind]

i mean, UR rerun next week. that has a UR bulin

[whole crypt]

if you don't need to work on Guam/Laffey II the coming rerun has a bulin at 15k milestone

[undone plover]

Make sure u also buy from medal shop

Spec core

[narrow arch]

Yeah ive done that already

[narrow arch]

Yeah I have to get laffey II

[whole crypt]

in that case just use the bulins on Guam and Laffey II first

if you're just 1 short wait for next perm pity to fill up

[narrow arch]

Oakly doke

Is willy D worth investing in at all

I managed to get her from the event

[turbid marsh]

depends on what you have. its pretty useful in uss fleet, general buff is not that bad, and functions quite well in lethal 16-3 16-4 full clear. so pretty niche in my opinion.

[undone plover]

What makes wdp good for ch16 ?

[whole crypt]

regular 16 clearing she's not bad but probably shines more if you're attempting lethal 3-star with flag/USS damage buff and self heal

also just the generic damage debuff is also useful, when considering OOA

[turbid marsh]

liek is quite niche cause probably use traf for general buffer instead in meta fights... unless they start to dish out meta fights that just mindlessly aim flag

[trim depot]

will the rerun event have a free ur bulin also

[whole crypt]

15k milestone

[trim depot]

alr

[harsh radish]

does support cv's level matter?

[rapid grail]

is 2.9k gems enough for a maxed dorm?

[whole crypt]

the minimum we recommend is buying 1 slot + 2/F

if you want to max out the dorm complete that will be 3.3k

[rapid grail]

That can be arranged

[whole crypt]

whether you need the whole thing maxed is another matter

[hollow gust]

Hmm nntktt triple CV is better

Means I don't have to try as hard for mob either

[ivory sigil]

why did the game fail to load my META battle? it always stop at 98% and stuck

it's been already 5 days since it happened
no matter what battle, even when i helping friend/world people, it always fail, and resulted in reload the login game

does it had something to do with not receiving the character????

[hollow plank]

hello! if my Iron blood ship sinks during finishing the 12-4, will that ship count as exp towards the iron blood ship I'm doing PR research on? Or do they have to be alive when it ends?

[hollow gust]

they will count in the batte they died in

[hollow gust]

although you realy dont want to let them die as thats a high moral penalty

[white agate]

either try fix assets or idk, hard reinstall, to that is quite long depending on your connection, make sure to have your account logged before doing that btw@ivory sigil

[hollow plank]

What happens when they have low moral? 😮 also, it's okaye ven if it's just B clear or A right/ I don't have to perfect it since I'm just after iron blood PR exp for Agir? Thanks!

[ivory sigil]

all other battle work normally, internet were fine, i did record a video for it, every thing still smoothly

EXCEPT the YorktownMETA battle

[undone plover]

So when the battle starts it crashes?
Or after u finish it?

[hollow gust]

low moral they gain less exp/no affinity or eventually no exp/affinity loss

[undone plover]

Worth asking in #tech-support
And show video if u recorded it
Will be easier for ppl helping

[ivory sigil]

It did not allow me to enter the battle, but the game still count as i had attempt and therefore i missed my free 0 oil attempt

^ basically this WPD did not reaach it end for 5 minute straight

[undone plover]

It is WDP’s fault

[ivory sigil]

I was wonder if it could be my fault

[undone plover]

Try #tech-support
See what they suggest
Maybe worth reinstall like gamer mentioned
But make sure your acc is bound to sth before u try reinstall

[ivory sigil]

WAIT IT WORKED NOW
i believe it is my fault now
cuz i was refuse to receive YorktownMETA by not press the sync button

[hollow gust]

[undone plover]

Not sure how that is related tbh but good it works

[whole crypt]

triple CV boss? that's how I did it for clearing

[ivory sigil]

it was a bug,
before that, all the YorktownMETA match were smoothly, i was stocking like 10000+/100 crystal

the bug only happen when i accidentally click on this sync phase button

[hollow gust]

[hollow gust]

Yeah it more consistent then lion

[whole crypt]

thing is even if you get revealed the back line is in basically no danger for the boss fight

might as well use it for ACV

not like you can't nuke out Musashi with current era ships and gear

[ivory sigil]

It said click again to receive YorktownMETA but i dont so... it just locked there

[hollow gust]

Lexy skin is so nice

[whole crypt]

practically all the mob nodes are harder

enemy BBs will start turning your main fleet to slag once you get revealed

that or slip a suicide ship that's like maybe 1/3 of your carrier

they also all take forever to kill on OOA if you are going for 3star

[turbid marsh]

yeah i aint doing that. 3 starring at safe. uh uh.

[ivory sigil]

conclusion: every meta match gave u a metablue crystal for sync

But if u press "sync phase" but dont press "Click to Sync" to receive the character, the game softlock you fron earning the "Sync Point" via battle reward. Result in failing to load a META match
Which u can understand why WDP cant load to 100%

Tl;dr: stupid experiment for stupid experience

but can still receive the sync point via winning the boss by having other helped

so i beg u guys to oneshot the YorktownMeta boss

[harsh radish]

going into chapter 15, ignoring the levels, are the formations good?

[turbid marsh]

didn't you just finish like w13?

[whole crypt]

well according to biff it's just copy what he used 100% reliable 0 difficulty
but yeh unless you feel the tremendous need to flex a lethal 3-star by copying other people's homework at this point... it's not worth the trouble

[whole crypt]

I'm inclined to tell you fleet 2 doesn't have enough AA

[turbid marsh]

yeah i had to reroll some to get 3 stars, though lethal, its already like 8 already. def not worth the trouble rerolling and manualling

[turbid marsh]

just wait for laffey 2 + guam. with them, and get like aquila or something 15-1 should not be hard with the additions.

[whole crypt]

I'd just raise Cowpens at this point instead of bothering with Aquila

[harsh radish]

The absence of cowpens is because I'm still raising her skills

[whole crypt]

just take your time to level before going 15 then

Aquila + Cowpens also legit

[harsh radish]

Isnt aquila locked behind event

[whole crypt]

Aquila's event archived quite a while ago

[tulip tinsel]

perma pool

[harsh radish]

I dont think I have the cubes for that, +event is coming up

[whole crypt]

Cowpens is fine, and again there's no hurry to do 15

[soft raft]

We're not saying to go pull for Aquila right now

[zealous bough]

Aquilla is good?

I got one of her randomly

[soft raft]

Yes
Especially for keeping Musashi allive

[harsh radish]

I use the twin 410 on musashi, is that bis here?

[turbid marsh]

oh he has cowpens? then skip aquila.

[knotty dome]

is it possible for a opsi hidden zone energy matrix to not spawn? i can't find it after scanning the whole map

[forest palm]

it's probably covered by an enemy ship or hazard tile

[turbid marsh]

blocked by something

[knotty dome]

i scanned the enemies and dont see anything

[forest palm]

auto search AI can usually find all of these unless the path to it is blocked

[forest palm]

it doesn't work like that

basically you have to hunt for it

[knotty dome]

there was a frost tile being blocked by enemies, i scanned it and it didn't say anything, but it had the ? in the top right map, killed an enemy blocking it and autosearch picked it up

i thought the ? was because it was frost, not because the matrix was there, and it's weird that scanning wouldn't tell me

[zealous bough]

Is it ok to use high efficiency things on 12-1 or better to save for an event?

[forest palm]

use it if you lack the time to play, but need to grind, otherwise don't bother with it unless an event has good gear

[zealous bough]

Okok

[brave canyon]

Do WDP special attacks scale off of torp or firepower? I would guess firepower for the stars and torp for the torps

[inland shoal]

From her s2? You'd be correct. The info is in the still pinned datamine too

[cloud panther]

Trolled again. Gold flash but it's a gear box this time

[vital meadow]

any1 got a 15-4 load out?

[red sapphire]

You might want to have a look at this
https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-15

Is Kansas gun any good?

[reef flume]

No

[summer patio]

Should I get cleveland meta or T4 crates? In the event shoo

Shop* i can't get porter cuz the event disappeared for sum reason

[vital meadow]

should i stil;l get the rainbow red torpedo for archerfish? or is the new gear lab rainbow torpedo better?

[quartz breach]

Can Z52 take the far left position or leave that to that IB PR DD?

[stark quiver]

z52 is better than felix schultz at tanking

[vital meadow]

do you know if the new gear lab UR submarine torpedo is better than the earlier UR red torpedo?

[stark quiver]

no clue

i havent looked into new gears

[red sapphire]

I don't know how good is the new one, but iirc on the guide you have example setups

But is highly recommended to read the guide before

[brave canyon]

Should I do this for dock space or is it a waste?

Do I need to join a better guild or something?

[proud quarry]

trying 14-4 hard

main fleet is getting oneshot the moment they're spotted especially musashi anything i can do to mitigate the damage ?

[red sapphire]

Why aren't you using twin 410 or twin 410 Kai on Musashi?

[fast frigate]

is it better to mlb guam or laffey2 first

[proud quarry]

I think i forgot to swap it back

[brave canyon]

There’s a strong consensus for L2

[junior hinge]

Is "azur lane en community tier list" a good option to use for building my ships or is there anywhere else i should be looking for help with the best stuff for my ships?

[proper violet]

Is ryusei a good torp bomber?

[red sapphire]

It's a bit outdated. You might want to have a look at this regarding to gear
https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide

[junior hinge]

Thank you kindly

[red sapphire]

Sure

[hollow gust]

1. Use subs
2. Use Aquila instead of Independence if you want to use Musashi
3. Instead of keeping Musashi you pick another high dps bb that doesn't tank entire backline dmg like Lion
4. You need to clear the mob faster so Unzen instead of Elridge

[sweet delta]

5. You need to clear the mob faster so don't use Aquila

Musashi tanks fine with rudder

[proud quarry]

Aquila is already in my mob fleet but i guess i could swap the shell for rudder

[pearl hare]

Pretty sure bidders are still the best

[vital meadow]

bidders?

[cobalt robin]

mark 20s ''bidder''

[vital meadow]

so the two UR sub torps from gear lab isn't worth?

but isnt there that one UR sub that uses the red UR sub torp?

[cobalt robin]

the ijn ur is situationally very good but you'll be fine with bidders for most content if not all

[cobalt robin]

youre talking abt i404? i dont really know much abt her except for that her + fish pack is the best sub fleet

[vital meadow]

fish pack?

[inland shoal]

It's worth it, but yeah you might wanna look for a more active guild

[cobalt robin]

there is 2 routes you can go with sub fleets, wolf pack (ib subs or fish pack (archerfish, flasher i forgor the rest)

[inland shoal]

Alba Cavalla usually

[hollow gust]

Flasher is soon

[stark quiver]

cavalla

[vital meadow]

https://renhex.github.io/alft/261 Should I use this fleet or
https://renhex.github.io/alft/315 this one or
https://renhex.github.io/alft/260 this one for 15-4?

[cobalt robin]

normal albacore

[inland shoal]

I'm just stating what the rest you forgot is btw
Not that anyone thinks I'm recommending those over Flasher/Archer lol

[cobalt robin]

yea ik i was just saying cause most people have alba µ instead

[stark quiver]

how are you planning to clear bosses?
mob fights first and 3rd boss? and boss fights 2nd boss?
or boss fleet fights first and 3rd boss and mob fights 2nd boss

[hollow gust]

did you just steal the reccs from suchis site? you know there is accompaning text to go along with it?

[vital meadow]

just wasnt sure which 1 gets the most consistent clear

not looking to clear every mob, just trying to farm it for the SSR ship

[hollow gust]

bottom fleet would have mob fleet fight bosses 1/3

[scarlet cosmos]

how is azuma in 2026?

[forest palm]

pretty meh

[sweet delta]

Good for content released in 2021

[scarlet cosmos]

but not hard content i assume

[zenith heron]

I remember hearing something but how much jump is a La-9 compared to a BFG?

[sweet delta]

They're doing auto search so boss fleet fights 3. I don't provide example fleets for auto search because

1. safe threat is easy, just try making your own fleets
2. I don't have experience with safe threat 15-4 autosearch

[scarlet cosmos]

on average, how long does it take to finish a DR ship?

i am thinking on getting gouden leeuw, but im not sure how she would do in w16. Or for now, is it best to only use DD vanguards in w16?

[hollow gust]

2 months if you are good
3-4 usually

[vital meadow]

so if i used the option B fleet, the fleet with unicorn would have to fight the first and the third boss?

[white mason]

How do I attack the island bases in 16-3?

[soft raft]

iirc you have to use the airstrikes that you can use on the map overview