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Why they make rerun ur events so short tho
is her event more grindy than the last?
Is it worth clearing all zones in opsci if I have already cleared 50 of them
we literally dont know
i do know
because they were occupying too much time if ran at full length, which was part of how we got to 2 years for rerun intervals
how would you know
its grindy in the sense its going to be similar to wdp where you have to grind for ur vouchers, but this time we only got a week. shop prices might be change but dont know till its out
a week is crazy ikiab
it's not
too long bad
trust me if they are smart, and just put 2nd laffey on milestone, it's gonna be easy
hopefully they adjust prices
reruns have more bonuses
the milestones reqs are also lower
shop won't feature new series prints
the only thing we don't know is whether there'll be easier/faster vouchers
if they are stupid then idk
just grind more
like i did in janurary 2025
imma be grinding d3 or b3 idk for flasher anyway 
shops are always the same including not updating the print series from 2 years ago
we don't know if vouchers will be cheaper but they could also just hand out more faster
or they might change nothing and make new players grind more 
imagine if they say no 2nd copy
thatd be funny
I'm fairly sure they'll still make the first copy attainable without buying vouchers, it's just how they do it
sucks to suck
should I save my ur bulins for laffey 2 or can I spend them on lexii
just finish Lexington II first
she should be more impactful for you where you are at now
mecklenburg
whats this gun again
that's so ronery
this?
Pommern gun was it?
ok bet
its time for some 🔥 cooks
Do protocores just lose all value past midgame? I have enough stored up that I will be able to get the La9 when it gets added but after that I will have bought all of the UR gear, I had been saving up all my blank pr7 & pr8 blueprints but is there any reason to not just use them all ?
In order 16-4 boss spawn just after 4 mobs, how much avi the fleet needed? Currently my mob fleet has 1700 but I still need to clear 5 mobs, is boss fleet avi also included? Because I use two BBs for boss
burnt or golden brown
you just buy gold gear over and over thats it
if you're done buying UR gear prints and maybe some spare gear prints there's not much to do with proto cores
if you really want to you can buy rainbow BPs for FS if you need buut as it stands all ppl with FS or expected coming FS are coinable
unless they pull FS for hindy next patch its not gonna change
well I need to buy some PR1s to make q152s 
nepguns
I know that SSR ships can still drop from A ranking the boss but is there any datamines about the rank affecting the drop chance?
like A rank having lower drop chance or something
Droprates are all serverside so we can't datamine that
drop chance is serverside we don't have drop rates
the closest we have is community collected data which suggests S clear drop rates are around 1.5%
anyone low cost 16-4-ing now
I'm still messing around with different comps
some can clear fast enough but is vulnerable to general rng during the fight
one too many suicide boats slipped through or a missed shot that doesn't kill the healing boat fast enough and they snowball
some is safe enough to consistently go through the mobs but doesn't have the damage to S rank the boss
survival is 100% for me the problem is boss sometimes takes over 2 minutes because of the damned smoke
ill do 16-4 after clearing mode
I mean I guess I could use the safe mob fleet and then switch to the crossfleet to S rank the boss, but I want to minimize oil use as well
I stopped at 16-3, too broke on oil
I'm a pretend tryhard how could I live without 100CR

you should feel the pain of that one guy
whose missing ships are gorizia event LMAO
I'm 👴 that 100%s every event so
Guys, i'm new here, Can someone give me some advice on a good fleet?
no unicorn 💔
Still in progres for unicorn
im only at 98
you can build any fleet for w1 - w12 without have to pay much attention

Just make sure Uni is in the mob fleet 
That guy you say?
pleb
No suzunami ?
I get destroyed do i need BB for mob fleet?
I even launch i dont even know what it is doing lol
idek wher to get her
how to get bilibili collab ship?
you cant
why?
CN only collab from many years ago
EN never got that collab
it was before EN server was even around
jeez what ashame
Neptunia not gonna have one?
who knows
neptunia in 2026...?
who knows
purple heart has the funniest skill ever
bili was CN only no other region got it
on top of that even CN players who joined after that which is probably like 95% of the player base now don't have it
im looking a selling account that has complete collab ship hahaha doesn't matter if not 100% on main collection
so thats against tos
suzunami was amagi cv event
is she due to rerun this year
it's impossible
and that would get the account banned from the game
so good luck
account selling is in direct violation of ToS
and the staff do hunt down such accounts with... a vengeance
so they're just die hard?
yes
but why they still selling account
money
no one's selling accounts legally
because catching acct sellers is more important than banning cheaters 
don't they already do this
alpa, what exactly do cheaters gain in the first place
for some the money is worth the risk, some are just looking to make a buck out of the game they've stopped playing
it's not like they get gems for topping leaderboards
they put up a hall of shame often enough
i mean once you get the money, its not your problem anymore
and they gain me not being top 3 
tell that to the EX cheaters
the money is worth the risk
if it's not their account, why would they care if the accounts get banned
TuanAR is still running amuck in amagi
and people like you, looking for such accounts
certainly doesnt help
if there's demand, there will be a supply
i dont mean you alpa
ik
argh anyone have a low cost comp that consistenly S clears the boss 
whens the next WW btw
CN anniv?
CN anni and EN anni always have WWs
5 months later 
if this happens again I'll just semi low cost damn it 
so mid cost
how many people in your server have 100% nnt
thanks
mob fleet for all 5 fights or do you switch to the other fleet for the boss?
mob can handle all 5 fights but boss overtimes because of shitty smoke
I thought lv is capped at 125? 
thats ship level
not commander level
That's player lvl
Does SoulForming 30min (8k coin + 3cube) but on PR6 worth taking or ignore and take 4h meck or 1h Rigging instead
PR6 not worth taking
I would choose the Soul

I skipped a rainbow Nakhimov this morning too but that's just me
I don't even do pr8
I'm just doing PR8 because I don't want spare meck gun prints
I Try to get 2nd La9 rn , and maybe 3rd ply gun from researching
but you can just craft ply gun now
unless your super close to 50 prints
why would I want to spend lab materials when I can just do more PR5
granted my goals tend to be disconnected from that of most players 
If i lack of roomba, should i try farm 11-4 for it? Instead of stick with 12-4 for bad gear?
I’m guessing I upgrade Wyvern to plus 13 when I get it?
please i need it
I guess not
what are you even doing to need roombas now
It's too expensive
Wyverns are pretty much for mobbing and spending 360 plates on it is pretty much overkill, maybe if you're looking to use it in 16
Does the wiki say it’s full cost?
I haven’t even started w14
wywern +13 cost
I would recommend 13+ flying pancakes over wywern
360 gold plates
that the cost of just about all ur gear plus the other stuff
Yeah I only have 103 aircraft plates and 4 ultra gear upgrade
any w16 comps made out there ?
Here this fleet made by PinsonMort
is cowpens better than uni
healing no dmg yes
how about the new dd, how good is she, UR dd
which
wdp prob
Willy D?
suchy made vids of both

-# Time to roll 5 Guam in a row so u wont have to be worry about Ur bulin
Hey this team use both Guam and Laffey2 tho
Yeah just build both.
And roll 5 guam in a row so you wont need to spend Ur bulin
that's low cost since no cost limit yet
I'm trying to put my fleet1 subs into w16 but keep getting msg saying they are in battle. But I'm not in any battle. Anyone know why? 
cause they are in team 1 , u need to remove them in order to use them for support fleet
Ugh...
Fleet 1 is my 16.1 mob. Won once but both z52 and shimanto sunk. Any improvement i can do? Also can zuihou heal better?
just go for it, the fun doesn't start will 16-3
if it works y u changing it
Trying to win more consistently
that should be able to handle 16-1 fine, gear issue?
also maybe swap Perseus for a better carrier and see if it gets your air supremacy
Any suggestion? 
Independence, rainbows
what's the ACV looking like
Air superiority
no as in the actual number
And 4268 acv
eh what was the req for 16-1
There is a req? O.o
air control status is calculated based on your ACV vs the map's
Nearly took out the atago at the beginning, 8 bars left. If i managed to sunk her, is there any benefit?
Also here is the acv
I still don't have Houston 2 yet 

I probably did it on superiority too lol it's not a big deal
Does it worth to spend 2000 Opsi coin for daily that only give a box of 50AP ?
In conversion that is 20 Opsi voucher
you pretty much buy and spend all AP you can get
i always buy ap boxes
hmm i just test out what does 40AP c6 give... despite 2 catnode, they give some mats and enough to replenish 2000 opsi coin
for one thing you get more than enough vouchers eventually, what you want is as much AP as you can get for more chance to farm stuff
i did another c6 and there is 0 catnode
drops are random, the more you run the more chance you have of finding better loot, and dives obviously get better as your cats level up and using higher rarity cats

lowest priorty in the voucher shop is the file thingy right?
gold plates and mats or other stuff is worth more than opsi coins
yes but it's definitely also given you 2 gold plates
classified file loggers can be done later because they don't replenish
nah both of my cat is lv21, i dont think they gave such
but hey something start look promising at my 4th try
does spaming c6 is the only way to get best rng?
or c3/c5 had the same rng rate?
C5 better, as far as we know same chance of 2 cat nodes while cheaper, C3 should be even more cat dives per AP assuming you have the time
but this is after clearing all loggers/coords you can get your hands on
This setup (or switch lion for Raffealio) can auto all of world 16.
Switch lion for biscuit2 with certificate of sponsorship to get the "all enemies" 3 star
Raff is safer than lion for 16-3/4 in my experience
if i leave my guild do i keep all of the extra dock space i bought w gold
should i focus on pr7 or pr8 now? midway through pr7
whos left in pr7
everyone 
i guess ur not wrong with half way lol
i have these if some of them are more important
try ur best to focus on these 2 then move on to 8
oh DR
ok
i heard this one is kinda useful in some case? not sure
BisZ cert is kind of cope, generally not worth pushing for lethal 3 stars anyway and BisZ has her own cons even with cert bonus

he doesnt go for the all clear star on lethal.
You dont really love your boats
use them on bayard
im prepping to do w15, what are the best subs rn?
i was planning to use these
(in recent days) for some reason, everytime i start a meta match, i got stuck here, as i reload the game, it counted as fought but 0 dmg deal
and it dont allow me to continue as 0 oil it but instead 40 oil cost
show all ur subs
is there an easy to read tierlist somewhere? the one i used to go to is outdated and so are the w15 guides ive seen posted here
??? what does loving your boats have to do with lethal 3-star
i guess there are no SS tier boats in w15
lethal 3-starring is literally just a flex
litually just showed u both team
also 16-4 lethal 3-star is just a bloody RNG fes
flasher is best then the 3u team is 2nd
Question, where can I go to see best gear for each ship?
I finally think I should start making gear for them
which one of those sub are non gacha/non limited ?
theres no answer for that , it depends on wht u fighting sadly
im looking at the tierlist you linked
wt u mean all u can obtain them , beside the UR one which she just came out recently so u will have to wait for her rerun
ill level i404
Sads.
I just wanna know what guns/gear I should focus on building
QwQ
that are general use item
the tiers are kind of relative
there's just no ship significantly ahead of the ships currently ranked S which are more than enough for 15 now
i just 6 week ago tho
sybau 🥀 i just check them all and they are all limited/gacha rng only
except u-96 that is
80 but there isnt SS in shop for Lil Enty yet 
oh and albacore is 20k ⚔️
if you want quick and easy then use slaimuda, if you want more in depth guide on gears use this sheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wWMIzaUKISAXMbOEnmsuuLkO9PesabpdTUWdosvHygM/edit#gid=1796201046
the ranks may change if more data presents a ship to be much better
Example:
I think she deserves better guns
Thenks
Mwah<3
yes, use mk6
Took 1 try with my suggestion for each map, so doesnt seem very rng at all with the right set up. W16 isnt as bad with all the options we've been given
SS tier, not subs SS
i get that, ive been playing the game for a long time, just stalling w15, didnt even know w16 is out
OMG, I made 205+ runs, Fujinami finally dropped, but 2 Elites still haven't dropped.
i kinda just want to find tried and tested teams to breeze through them
like normal tier list?
you realize a lot of this is going to be affected by tech and cats, as well as gearing and how much +13 you have
you can ask other experienced players here who may have not had much trouble with lethal 3-star 16-4 but do agree that you're subject to RNG in OOA fights
he's saying there's no ship ranked as SS for ch15 in REGAL
oh
yeah, thats what i meant
i clear 15 with this
how about boss and mob?
i forgot lol cant find picture of it
i somehow found it
For rigging fortification on Meta ships,
Firepower or reload should be the focus?
just enhance everything they have fixed limits
100%
i dont have alsace leveled, who would you replace her with
any UR BB I guess
Lion
I think this was for 15-3&4 tho
alternatively, any better replacements for other boats there? assume i have all the boats
since some new ones came out
i dont have the cow leveled but i guess i should
DZP replace guam
why the heck would you replace Guam with D7P
that's a you problem
who is dzp, im not familiar with the abbreviation
De Zeven Prov
De zeven provencien
oh, shes good?
good AA, better AA than Guam in fact but not a better ship
i didnt bother leveling her past 70
Healer with great AA
how about the support fleet, the uhhh w15 mechanic
Assuming all have equal level, affinity, and gear etc., the best support fleet carriers are, in slightly decreasing order of strength: Fritz Rumey, Essex (Retrofit), Hwah Jah (Retrofit), Nakhimov (REQUIRES DEV 30), Lexington II, Indomitable, Implacable, Chen Hai (Retrofit), Illustrious, Illustrious µ, Little Illustrious, Independence (Unique Augment), Langley (Retrofit), Yorktown II
from niave calcs i estimate fritz --> essexkai --> hwah jah --> nakh --> indom --> lexii --> implac
is it really up to date? i never know
that's like less than a month ago and includes LexII in the list
this one has hwah jah higher
i wouldnt be surprised if hwah jah outperformed essexkai because of how crash mechanics work
what crash mechanic
no idea how they get hwah jah higher in terms of dps
Hwah Jah just has high RLD and 2 high efficiency slots
you can justify that having your dps be less variant (i.e. high reload) could reduce wasted damage on overkilling or leaving planes between 1 and 20% health
high slots achieves the same similar effects due to jamming
is the support fleet even that important to minmax
no
i just used lusty indop imp
No i mean..
Should I do only one, only the other,
I can do everything at 50/50
Etc
you cant choose anything
you can't vary how much you add to the two, they have maximums set to add to 100%
everything has their own cap, there is no choicemaking
145/135 vs 150 x 2
I mean if you want to know the raw % difference i get essexkai being ~8% better thru shitty calcs
the DPS table is probably scaled with RLD which is how Hwah Jah ends up higher
Essex should do more damage per plane pass with the higher AVI but only slightly after comparing slot eff
but... you use both anyway
yeah reload is easy to include although i didnt include jamming
although unless im stupid jamming should make high reload perform worse

Which are the gato class That Flasher buffs?
Thnx
Baltimore’s buff stack with air raid assistance right?
yes
do i need to lvl skill for portland?
you can ignore them
where can i get more toolkit to begin craft purple ver. one?
Who is the best choice or i just do waifu collection ?
tech boxes
Morning all. Is there a general consensus for using Series 8 PR general prints? I have 229 of them and could spend them on ships like Dev 11 Shimanto, Dev 26 AVP, or other ships that are low or I don't have like Chkalov, Bayard, Harbin, etc.
i need these 3 files to complete collection but i don’t know where to find them :V any helpers
i'd save them for pr8 ships
I have repeatedly seen that pr8 ships aren't worth focusing on, which to me means they aren't that good and worth the prints. Happy to be proven wrong but this has been pretty consistent from what I've seen. I feel like the prints would be better served on lower series ships that actually see use.
you could do it for pr7 if you want but i wouldnt do pr6 or lower since pr5 and below is coinable and pr6 should be too soon 
just hoard it until you need em
you're not wrong, if you really need shimanto or bayard right now then it is fine to use prints on them, but for the long run it's always good to hoard them until you do pr8 ships
i'd say use it on shimanto since she's a top tier ship for w14 and w15 if you want to push story
she's coinable soon tho
is Hakuhou really better than Hakuryu?
how consistent is it to get to the boss with decent HP
I tried that and it worked relatively well but sometimes Z52 or one of the CVs would die or get too low
well yeah better wait for that unless they really need shimanto rn
ty all
Is that still available? (wattage amplifier)
no, gotta wait for it to comeback, and there's no telling exactly when that is
Rip
it should end up in the Shop eventually. But you missed the Event Rerun by about 6 or 7 Months
Why did I waste so many ressources into her, welp it is what it is
shoulda check before hand
but well her item will prob get added into protoshop when en anni rolls around
that was the lowest I got to the boss with so far
I guess could swap some extinguishers or rudders in
Have they buffed Sushi in 16-4 or something? Running this VG and even tho they only do the boss they're all of a sudden dying every fight
I had to reset 3 times for them not to die by the 1m20s mark
How do I obtain the Northern Parliament dive bomber of Rare quality, "R-5"? I need it for the Gear Lab, but I can't find any information on where it's from 🤔
get it from blue np tech boxes, also the su-6 isnt worth crafting
Can I go below B-tier for w15 boss vanguards or is A+ must have? Im still in preparation for it but I want to build fleets that can handle my future goals
76 or gold single 113
where are you now because generally you're going to be spending months leveling in 12 anyway
I've been getting consistent results with Bismark Zwei
the extra body works great on suicide boat
aside from that one time Z52 ate one too many and die on the second fight
I can farm 12-4 and are progressing 13-1 right now so Im trying to build fleets that can handle w13, w14 and w15 in the future
Well laffey2 is giving for free next week
As well as guam in the banner
I have guam
maybe she actually shoots now
but eitherway that vanguard is prone to rng anyway. do you have healers?
ideally you really don't want to go below A tiers from REGAL, may depend on how well you can gear
also will depend on which ships you have or not, some carry harder than others
Thats what I want to build right now but Im lacking a lot of blueprints
I was running Lion, Aquila, Volga but Aquila dmg was so low so changed her to Amagi so they actually killed Sushi before 1m left
might be tech I don't know but Z52 never got below 20% for me
why not run zuihou over volga
I don't have her 125 and I've ran out of books
Maybe they fixed her bug of not firing a single shot
also are you using subs ON the boss or on the mobs?
Peak team ngl
Perhaps Laffey2 for jda replace?
its important to summon subs when the boss actually spawns here
subs will obliterate musashi
you know you don't have run 16-4 now right? you can spend maybe a couple of days to level shit if you don't have the packs
ditch vanguard
I regret dumping T2 packs into my frigates to try them for 16-1/2 opening 
I can try getting her and work on the blueprints
also all your URs are basically 0 limit break
that effectively makes them all useless
Yeah their seems to be alot more shit on the screen when sushi spawns in now
Yeah I know that Im far from ready
So many Shinano butterflies everywhere
Are there better tanks for this fight then now that she actually does dmg?
plenty lol
the strat ur doing is kind of incomplete
the reason u run those 3 is because you want to build 2 "mob fleets"
1 doing everything except BB 3* and boss and the other doing exactly that
But I dont have anything better right now. Is there a way to check for w13 tier lists?
when you only want to kill boss, running napoli gouden+1 is far more consistent
Yeah I'm aware, I've given up trying to 3* it and just doing random clears now to decrease threat level, but didn't want to change it too much for when I try again. Also Goudne is in mob fleet
what is ur mob?
Raf, Uni, Cowpens, Gouden, Sandy, Z52
willy z52 napoli eldridge laffey are a few people that come to mind for boss vanguard
I mean already using Laff+Eld for the VG already and porter isnt 125
no idea why it happened either because when I look back I'm already on the defeated screen
and it's the second fight too so I suspect she ran into consecutive suicide boats that she couldn't dodge
And they're the ones that are dying in the boss now
Thanks for letting me know where to find it!
Also, what I actually want to craft is the VIT-2, but idrc about your opinion regardless lol
I get Su-2s via Research btw, and I just so happen to have one I'm not using, so I have crafted the Su-6 out of spite 👍
I don't like people who give unsolicited advice 🙂
maybe run napoli over shimanto
usually this is her health level after the mob fights
or over laffey
Won't I lack the AA to keep the backline alive then?
Lion is already hitting 50% HP from plane dmg
you are using subs the moment musashi spawns and not before right
Correct
maybe some CN coping with napoli guam eldridge/shimanto
3 CV backline lexii sex york
🎲
I just had a run kill both carriers 
yeah I found Lion insufficient in protecting the carriers from suicide boats
type 95 torps help a LOT here btw
that's why I switched to Bismark in the first place
shit does wonders in the chaotic fight and especially when musashi is a sitting duck like irl
there's the option of using Ulrich on the crossfleet for her barrage too
I think you can make a thread, post your team there as well as gear and other ally, w13 is very gear important imo
Should even be trying to clear w13 right now or should I first focus on getting better gear in general before I even try touching w13? I looked at the /equip in #bot-spam and I mostly dont even have the 2nd best options listed there
w13 does not take much but it definitely wont help when half the things you are using aren't mlb
Using UR BBs that are underleveled and not even limit broken are never gonna work
Hi Id wanna ask for the fleet maker it's not showing the newer URs girls . I wanna make one for my chapter 16 fleets but I see others using the fleet builder with those girls included .
Can pls help show how to use the fleet maker to include the newer girls
Zwei Z52 Fritz and Vanguards gotta go
/fleettool
/calc
You are using a non updated version
Ahh thanks
So basically I need to limit break every UR to the max before I can use them? Should I just farm 12-4 until these URs and the rest is fully limit broken + level 120 at least and focus on gear lab/ operation siren in the meantime?
You don't even need URs
12-4 doesn't drop UR bulins
Thats the highest I can farm right now
You can only get UR bulins from the currency or Crusiepass/Milestone
You can buy more currency from shop that bypasses the max 5k monthly
medal shop +3k
if it does, I might live there
To build fleets should I use the tierlist for w14 or w15?
You haven't even beaten w13, why think about w14+
W12 is way easier than that
Also tfw he says "You dont even need URs" and you ask if you should look at the tierlist that heavily values URs
Is there a tierlist for w13? Because the tierlist doesnt have the option for it
bcs w13 is easy
there really is no need for a specific tierlist for W13
You mainly just need good AA capability
bro it is all planes
just drop non mlb ur's and use smth thats mlb
go on the ranking for endgame tierlist, sort w14 mob boss, anything that is C and above are useable for w13
thing is I was using Musashi before, the main problem I had was not enough DPS through smoke on boss
can you remind me guys if levels can also affect of the support fleet in W15-16
Okey thanks
so I can just put fighter and Tubes on those CVs right?
tubes 
ah yeah, I'm not using the low cost fleet on boss
mine is also not consistent enough to get S
so I use the other fleet
costs an extra 25 or so oil per run but at least it's consistent
some examples
Are these from the fleet tool?
made with fleet tool yes
Focus on equipment vs ships for progress
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wts the replacement for this?
basically nada , no rld aux gives 550 hp
stupid ass colab item
if i dont have it should i go for reload or hp?
i ask a or b u give me yes
could just go for other damage auxes
for her
if you dont need survivability you get offensvie auxes, if you need survivability you go for more hp
trafalgar was never a dps
so hp it is
stranger 
let ply tank
ok
ngl but i think your 113 isn't functioning at max potential because of stranger
lmao I found my problem, some tweaking brought my AS+ down to AS
ya gear issue
just take the 2 shot 
this is the way
just copy something that you have +13 gear for 
im running monarch and still have a 50% oneshot rate
no sonaru?
naa if its rng , then might as well sjut 2 shot it

I was getting 1250k avg without kurumi
Got one kill with kurumi tho 
Soy neko fritz laffii traff fleet
momo better than kurumi if soynak
Kurumi less consistent, Momo is 100%
Kurumi is "better" for BB fleets only because Momo timings don't line up
my Momo is only 120 and it's already good enough
I didnt want to +13 4 la9 
if you're using BB now then I guess
Is meck fleet better 
I can dev30 with selectors
Are the hidden nodes worth doing opsi?
I took break on AL for a while. I 3* cleared W15 before I took a break, should I be expecting any major roadblocks? I have all URs before 2025.
Can u see ur total fleet stats somewhere
yes they give gold plates
can skip c2 hidden zones
fleetpower leaderboards maybe? not sure what u mean by the Q sry
Like this? Tap info in the corner
Tho idk why you'd want to see that since fleet power means basically nothing
Oh there it is at the top just the aa stat
ch14h and ch16 released
some 2025 URs are really good but u could probably still bruteforce it with good gear
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What kind of gear do you give Hestia?
Nothing because she's not worth using at all
hi when do I start setting up a second fleet?
At earliest W9 once you've unlocked oil cap
(14+15)/2
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it practically is just ch14 + ch15 gimmicks
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there is no universal guide as of yet
there has been some yap in the last few days about it if u want to search this discord
if not just go watch jimmy on youtube i think he cleared it all and u can see what he used
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recommendations are mostly the same it's not like a definitive clear comp or something
a lot of it goes down to your gear
and maybe good cats
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yeah it is just sth to start with 
maybe cheeky will compile some notes for later
the issue is u dont want to put stuff in a "guide" unless u test it and can back it up with some confidence so it will take a while until we have sth written
u can check suchi regal list
and anything that is S+ tier for ch15 should be decent enough to work with
it is just about finding a good balance of ASW/AA/DMG/HEAL
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mob something like this
no unicorn 
Have you found a consistent S rank fleet for boss
wasnt zuihou better for triple DD? or is aquila there for mainfleet heal?
Unicorn is so 2025
Just zuihou it or Aquila for backline heal
uni augment when
you mean me?
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I think 3 and 4 boss was something like this, 1 and two maybe swap in a BB
gear
how are u done with gouden leeuw 
I'm done with PR8 I'm just stuck making another gun to not have spare prints
in fact I already finished earlier than last year because I was loosening up on the gear focus to wrap up GL and Meck towards the end of the third gun
I finished PR7 around this time last year doing gear priority for La-9
Lion feels more useful to me then Essex 
Let's me toss Essex into support fleet
yeah i am doing this now 
I think i finished in february last year with all DR
got 3rd La9 sooner tho iirc but i was staying for 5 anyway
is that -4 lethal?
the triple carrier comp is for AS+
That was my 3rd 16-4 run 
Hmmm no wonder why my mob was suffocating from planes , I'll sacrafice lion to make mob fleet easier then
I'm just scratching my head now because I'm trying to figure out what I changed boss stopped spawning after 4th fight
Wasn't boss linked to avi?
oh right might be because the AVI on my first fleet dropped with the gear swap 
Its over
yeh that was it
Just gotta grind for the SSR now
wait i never ask but we never use 2 eva aux/ 2 rudder on same ship?
You physically cannot use two rudders on the same ship
the game wont let you
knowing this before having my 2nd rudder is helpful indeed
you can use the rudder on a second ship
I guess the only way to push this any further is oathing the carriers...
ah well, status quo then
so most efficient is not maximum eva but a mix of 1 eva and 1 hp aux

Sure that works
that is generally the recommendation for most cruisers
CBs can go double eva with larger base HPs
Or just test different combinations
There isn’t a set must do
how good of a tank is kurumi, actually?
eh she isnt tanky, she just... live long if the enemy taking too long to beat her clone
I use double eva gear on ägir
if you want statistic:
i was just looking at that, but there was another site somewhere claiming she was really good as an unconventional tank
she is great at mobbing
Am i missing something? my mob fleet in 16-4 has 1814 acv shown in the formation page, but i still need more than 4 mobs for the boss to spawn. did any of the patches adjust something?
You need avi not acv
ah. rip me lol. thank you.
what can I replace cowpens with?
Zuihou, but she is much much worst
I didn't realize cowpens was a healer lol, I shoudl've bought her skin now I got her under lvld
what about 💍 ?
Any nice person want to help tell me what ship to level next:)
15-2 fleet
Boss and Mob, any tips?
Show what u have in a thread
Iirc mods Don't like those
Musashi better in mob
So is laffey but it should work
I would put guam in boss tank and laffii mob tank
Can use more dmg in boss vanguard
So replace anchorage imo
Like who, i have ibuki, unzen and shimakaze maxed
I would use unzen tbh
Sandy and guam should be enough AA
And put alsace in middle not on the side like musashi rn
If you want to run Musashi you have to run Aquila , else she just dies. 
And put rudder on backline
15-2 Boss can nuke your mainline 
So alsace, musashi, unicorn for mob?
jk, pick the top1 in this list #al-general message
or pick essex instead
What's a rudder
Is that true for ch15 
His vanguard shouldn’t rly leak anything
And volga can heal
oh the washing machine
That's especially true for high AA worlds 
idk why it called rudder in 1st hand tho
u have lion?
my ibuki is leveled higher than unzenso ill use ibuki
or raffaello?
raffa and lion both lvl 100
Musashi gets absolutely nuked by plane damage , and you can't intercept everything in w15
Volga should work but shes no Aquila
i meant like this
replace musashi according to goose
idk i never used her for 15 but she did struggle in ch14h for me
who said i have no aquila
then aquila better than volga with sushi
aight
u know how to gear right?
can i use quintiple 610 gold for ibuki?
read this if u havent already https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-15
Learn how to beat Chapter 15 on auto with comprehensive strategies, ship and gear selection, and example fleets.
Sandy is wasted on boss fleet, swap her with shimanto
instead of magnetic quad?
Just craft some from gear lab , it's cheap add
its theUR sorry its not gold
usable
wait how to use this so i can also show my gear
just read the link
it shows u what gear to use
if u dont understand it or struggle make a thread
Do you think it’s worth it for me to exp pack Rodney to get Nelson’s aux?
Here's my UR maybe we can switch someone?
meck and golden are 4 star
What u have now is fine
aight aight ill try
Just do what I said
Replace volga with aquila
Musashi mob
Ibuki over anchorage
And put proper gear
And CV support fleet
should i craft some twin 76s before the triple 406 and 100 kai?
Depends on your goal
100 kai not rly worth that much
76 better for campaign
406 mk7 good for light armor bossing
is there a way to get the gold equip before the twin 76, or do i need to craft that one too?
Iirc u have to craft it
only part of the craft line that isnt gear lab only is the 76 AA gun and the blue one before it 
I couldn’t find the answer to this question.
Guam buffs AA for ships with a lower AA stat than herself.
Is this based on the AA stat with or without gear?
EXP data packs
Probably with gear counted since their equipped AA gun would affect their total AA stat
ya'll i'm a relatively new al player and for some reason my tier 3 toolkits just don't show up in depot or when trying to equipt
they're not equipped, and I did and still doesn't show up
So putting an AA radar as her aux gear would basically almost guarantee she buffs everyone, alright then thank you
What UR should I mlb next? I have enough bulins for both upcoming laffey 2 and 1 more ship
Haku maybe
Hmm iirc, if toolkit dont show up it is either that the Filter on topright is on.
Or the toolkit you receive it is just a Blueprint... iirc you need 10 of it to craft into 1 actual Toolkit
hmm black book on boss DD works, prob squeeze out lil more DPS
The drops u see in maps are prints
U need to craft them in depot before u can use them
Rumey is the most important out of all of those and she’s already maxxed. I would honestly go for William because she pairs up well with Laffey and Lex II that just came out.
Lex II for that same reason.
Yorktown II still for that same reason.
If you however plan on visiting more heavy-armor content in the future then Haku
for operation siren i just want to do some t5 zones everyday?
Aren't the epic 406 also great when it comes to availability ? I think some other weapons can be a bit more valuable
how is rumey most important if he has lion
Sure but +13 406 mk7 is still an upgrade
At some point u do want to grab it
whats the most optimal way to grind xp for pr ships oil wise in 12-4? If you need main ships do you use 3 of them or only a few and tyr to get 1 the mvp?
Just use 3 of them , put in dorm and you are set
People put a lot less care in exp grinding considering that's always the easy part
do i run a full fleet?
You might as well considering you will hit oil cap
I hadn’t seen Lion is the simple answer
yeh lowcosting is pretty much just a problem with the mob fights 
on 16-4 I see 3 enemy land bases, but I have only 2 support fleet airstrikes, I guess you can't destroy all of them?
you can hit both bases at the bottom of the map with 1 airstrike
ahh, like that
except if AS or AS+ the air bases currently don't do anything
So how good is cowpens when leveled? Is she actually good enough to replace unicorn in lategame fleets?
depends but for ch16 specifically it's looking more like Cowpens + 1 secondary healer with UR DDs
no uni or cow and somehow ok
lethal?
Do support planes fleet use intercept rof or normal rof?
intercept rof
safe has plenty of headroom
Should I buy independence in the core shop or some gear
AFCT/whiteshell first
What's the afct 
Wait what.?
I have been wasting my time bombing everything
if the bases were working it's apparently like another 80 more planes
which you'd have never seen if you didn't go with AP or lower
技術カンストのため不足分で安定しない可能性があります。
現状制空権優勢・確保中、陸上航空基地からのお土産が機能しないらしく、今後修正されれば同じ方法が通用しないかもしれない。
ぶっちゃけ周回モード待ったほうが絶対楽。
#アズールレーン ...
Safe mode though 
safe doesn't disable the bases
rainbow table or admiralty fire control table
AD vs AS+
Won't there also be a difference in planes from just the difference in air superiority anyway?
this notably
# already brought it up with devs it's a bug that the bases are non-functional right now on AS/AS+, and it will be "fixed" but we don't know if it's just smacking those 80 more planes at you
This actually works? 
lmao
When I get my 2 other UR bulins should I invest in Musashi for my main fleet or Willy D
requesting help once again #1459492871055998986
What is a good use for my medals?
I mainly get the 6 cost specialized cores, I don't know about the rest
get all the spec cores
is it fine if I go double Tenrai on Hakuhuo? or is it better to just put the other tenrai on another CV?
i am pretty sure if you need to use a tenrai on her you are not using the best ship for that boss
unless she becomes good for campaign with tenrai
double tenrai is almost never the best option
CV gearing is heavily context dependent
but there's basically no cases where double DB would be viable due to how slow they are, unless the ship's slots were simply just built like that (example: Chkalov)
does anyone have a screenshot of nicholas in 9-3
I am starting to doubt she exists 
get good
I remember the world 9 ship grind being ass if only because the maps got blocked real easy 
kids these days have their fancy auto battle
ive never had problems with farming
i get everything within a day anyways
i am fine with everyone so far tbh except her
back when I did those maps, they were one not oil cap'd, and two enemies would spawn and block pathing eating up more oil than desired
for some reason she is refusing to drop for the last 2-3 months
I have farmed this map occassionally between events 
SR living up to the meme of being rarer than the SSR/UR 
farm harder
you arent farming correctly unless you insta repeat 3x
Yoo, quick question, do i need to complete each level 3 times to pass to the next?! Its so tiresome
Can someone help me build my fleets?
You gotta repeat it until it says 100% yes
What content is this supposed to be for?
And no, "General use" is not a answer
inb4 clear 10 times
didn't they reduce early maps to one clear?
yes
how far does that extend, 9? or?
9 and before i think
wait til they realise 3+ clear started way back in ch3
For specifically Musashi, which of these 2 AP guns is most efficient?
I don't have her biggo 460s 🙁
that gun is useless
its not useless 
when do you even use it
@stark quiver Thank you 😄
ex, meta if you want to, opsi
pve content such as EX, on musashi when fighting arizona meta, alsace when fighting nagato meta, lion when fighting yorktown meta , etc
isn't yk meta triple meck gun?
who even uses triple meck gun
who wouldn't
aka, when you get 3 meck gun musashi gun becomes obsolete?
im pretty sure only i use a musashigun comp in all of EN for one shots
and also raff gun exists
What's the meck gun?
raf gun best gun for med

pr8 rainbow gun
campaign
guys im lvl 13 my story contineus at 20 how do i lvl up fast to 20
Grind out some more, you're very early on in the game go do some side stuff like 3 starring the maps for the free gems etc or just do a few battles in previous worlds
<ah ok ty
Where specifically in campaign?
how cna i upgrad emy storage
Are you referring to dock space? If so then there is a guild upgrade you can buy to increase it. It's recommended to join a guild when possible as it just helps provide extra stuff
Other than that, only way is by purchasing it with gems
There's no way you need to upgrade either dock space or depot space when you're level 13
chapter 13
NJ Unicorn Essex Neptune Baltimore and anyone who's max LB
Soyuz AmagiCV Enterprise Heinrich Sandy Roonmu
https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/progression-guide/
Also level up Aquila, buy and retrofit Independence, and level up Kurumi if you have her augment. And don't use UR bulins on different ships one at a time if you've been doing that
A progression guide for new and returning players, including how to farm ship levels, farm player levels, choose and enhance gear, and manage resources. Also covers fleet compositions by position and role for clearing Chapters 1 through 13.
Lexington II and don't use Bulins until you have enough to MLB the ship
am i good to craft 2 (maybe 4) more rat guns? dont wanna end up like the twin 57s being obsolete. just trying to see if there's anything i'm missing before i commit. also, should i use my (almost) 3 ordnance crafts or just bank them up for later?
https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/gear-lab/ you should craft more twin 76 AA guns and Plymouth guns
Ratings of all worthwhile Gear Lab gear that new and old players should craft. Recommends how many of each gear to get and how important they are.
You can use up to 6 twin 76s
And some G7e and Type 95 Kai
I can use more than 6
did you find endgame sub content yet
T5 You mean node C5 difficulty?
For excess AP, you can spam C3/C5 for higher chance to get most over valuable material from cat-node (yellow one on the sea)
But keep in mind to own 2 SR cat both lvl 20+ for actual worthy reward
If the AP is lacking, some people had trick to repeatedly doing C1 to meet Akashi whom would give more AP box
For more info please check this opsi guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vRPJgxnXwC4r3Z8AlbzPUhHDXt0Dr7KP4TPriFnGafQrt1wE7Jb5AdRgfy8tXaLpTC-CtYAVMZgJE0g/pub
-# credit to Cheeky guy
Ok my cats are not 20 yet 
ok so more plymouth guns > tenrais. and 4 more twin 76s. thanks for this guide btw, first time seeing it since i dont frequent here often
you have enough tenrais
No

-# Talking about cat feeding other cat with next to someone with cat pfp is diabolical somehow
Is there a way to tell the server to stop giving me 1 Hour Comms at midnight and stop giving me 8 Hour comms at midday ??? 
Which UR AA gun is better? EU or Orthodoxy?
-# Please dont tell me to book a ticket from GTM+7 to GTM-7 
EU is overall better
Laffey2
kinda funny mogador is so dead ive never seen someome mention her in a year
she's alive on my home screen
I saw someone mention her in popularity poll
I forgot Guam or laffey2 who had better AA?
guam
if I dont need double healer, who to take out, and who to add?
running Vol Aqui mob and Lust Indom boss
I dont get it, if guam is better, supposedly she would be wider usage than Laffey2?
ASW
because AA alone isn't the only factor of consideration
laffey has decent aa, can tank very well, has good asw, can pvp, can aa debuff
-# What if Guam had good ASW
pvp 
isuzu has even better aa than lafffey2 or shimanto, doesn't mean she's better as a ship
she has better aa tho
but she can't pvp. invalid
also laffey2 is tankier than guam, and no, nobody uses VH armor
i need help, i'm looking for a bomber plane that drop homing missiles? or homing torpeodoes. i don't know what plane this is called.
watch me
free win
You're referring to rockets
There's a good few planes who have rockets so do you have a picture? Or can you show us what your carriers are using?
My current carriers are dropping bombs directly, they don't turn into homing torpedoes when hitting the water. I only know those planes exists because I was running events, and the guest unit was doing dropping "bombs" into the water that turn into homing torps
Sounds like a event exclusive thing then
what event were you doing
Mebot spotted
-# mutsukistare
Honestly it would be massively helpful if you could provide a recording
I'll remember to do that the next time i can find something similar
cuz for all we know you could just be mistaking magnetic torpedoes as being dropped from TBs
no plane ingame has homing torpedoes
TBs?
otherwise all we can do is fart in the dark
except for essex retros skill that has homing torps
Abbreviation for Torpedo Bombers
what on earth does this even mean 💀
homing =/ converging
dunno, the boss was doing a weaving semi-circle, i could see alll the torpedos literally do a half a circle chasing the boss
That made me go WTF
are you not able to like go back and do the run again and provide a recording
Hi, wanna join a discord guild, need help 
Discord still does guilds? or did you mean #1246721562741178410 for in-game ones?
Is Musushi Medium armor?
heavy
Thanks
When enable the auto using item in Opsi, does they mean use the HP box for anyone who lowhp right? (and what about sunk ship?)
No, it only uses ESD (the purple cylinder looking things), and ESD convert to 5 vouchers btw. 
does this counterplay unicorn/cowpens?
they are healers so yes
nvm it was quite minimal, but the issue is ally wont get heal
is buying dock space the best use of gems as a f2p player
most people ignore that and just outdamage the heal the boss gets from you
what do I buy from the core shops
Which core
there's three different currencies with the word "Core" in them
Which ones should I use for daily raids
these 2
I dont think you should even really be bothering with subs rn ngl
/coredata
but I want to atleast do my daily raids
thanks
so i want to know who to level up
You dont need subs for daily raids
unless you mean the submarine one, in which case I guess just see how far you can go with the 3 SR ones you have
Ok
is there a cat builder site
raise i-58
lv70 mlb i-58 with proper gear can farm lv65 daily raid
or more like you only need to clear it once S-rank, then you can skip farm it daily
"daily"
what stage do we farm for money / grind exp nowadays? highest available stage? 12-4? 13-4?
12-1 or 12-4
whats the calculation on 12-4 over 13-4 again?
Which campaign chapter and stage has the best experience and coins per oil efficiency to farm? These tables show the efficiency of each stage, including spawn blocking and fleet sizes.
13-4 need carries, 12-4 does not, so usually people farm exp at 12-4 over 13-4
what does this 2 fleet vs 1 fleet thing mean
why is 2 fleet so much better vs just having 1 fleet clear everything?
When your fleet runs out of ammo, the damage they deal is halved.
but why does that make it more efficient to have 2
You'll really feel it once you start hitting the more difficult worlds.
oh it doesnt i read the chart wrong xd
the idea of having a 2nd fleet is that it can be wholly focused on fighting the boss withe the advantadge of full ammo damage buff
Note that you shouldn't work on a 2nd fleet until at earliest W9
ok im on w12 but idk if i have enough good ships to make a 2nd fleet
post your dock in a thread
Noob dock playing for a week
do we need more than more and more comfort in dorm for more exp?
no not really, treat it as a bonus
just spend your dorm token on theme that you like that gives comfort increase
not 100% of the time if you want to do it completely eyes off
i have a skill activation that says ヽ(#`Д´)ノ or something what is that lol
WDP's skill
when she fires the torp at the flagship
that's when the flagship is USS, WDP herself is Σヽ(゜Д゚;)ノ and flagship is Σ(゜□゚ )!! otherwise
troll in the party 
downgraded from Lusty to Indomi and still worked. see if her 20 story fights or ship drop first
how is Indomitable worse than Illustrious, what's this for
Why us this one like very strong
not really, no
because of skill issue
planes can hurt but so will suicide boats
use subs if not already
pay attention more to what brings down the most hp
16-4 auto
and shelling+burn still sucks
using Lusty cuz she had her own item
Maybe its the burn that is killing my Unicorn
currently yoinked the +10 staff from Rumey support and she runs a +0 version
for support right?
Indomie in boss fleet
oh
thought I needed the Lusty shield but even without I survives
I'm settled with my Lion/Cowpens/Aquila/Z52 lol
not dared to low oil this, plus hella oil to burn
Do i need defensive gear on my Uni and Aquila they are mobbing.
running 2 non-125 in mob now to somehow level them
I would pay to max those gears on Aqui
also unsure u have excess fighter like that
the AA gun on Unicorn is shit
active fleet carriers should use proper fighters instead of G3R1
Is Carry AA gun good on Uni?
best is if you can manage all rainbow 76
I think the hit gun is universal for CVLs
also Cowpens would be better
same...
level her before coming back 
will test if cowpens can replace Volga in mob healing
kinda worried if lowered stat will affect the cloud / boss reveal mechanics
you need 1700 AVI
yeah not happening
apparently unoathed Cowpens + Aquila can make it
this is a 102 cow
Whats the cloud boss reveal mechanics do again?
of course not 102
exactly my point...poverty setup
you have a visiblity rating based on your AVI and it also goes up when you defeat enemy nodes
with 1700 you only need to defeat 4 mobs to reveal boss
and also can go to the right corner to nuke the 2 bases in 1 shot
Is this the best route?
no
Whats the best route?
skip the nearest one
What are those circle?
after they fix it, not now though
airbases
they currently do nothing when you have air sup
otherwise they're supposed to add around 80 planes to your fights and you should airstrike to remove them first
I made it to safe level withou those so im doing the mechanics wrong 
because they're bugged and currently don't do anything if you have air superiority/air supremacy
I only use those to attack pesky ones. And call them to join battle to have enough ammos
not like I need to shoot em anywhere else
yeh but with those setups you don't really need to call them in battle unless you want to try lethal 3-star
I get more extras now cause the damage is not that strong
sacrifice a tempesta for more ammo? do those survive?
I use Flasher 404 and archerfesh
in theory the strongest combo
Are IX ships good there?
they carry that +1 ammo thing
Do i put flasher on flagship for bonus?





