gameplay-help

[sweet delta]

I heard 15th

[onyx flame]

its a old event rerunning but ig yes on the 15th

[wind hazel]

guam rerun 15

[civic vortex]

thanks,I heard that Guam is pretty good

[wind hazel]

pretty good

[onyx flame]

~~laff2 is better ~~

[civic vortex]

where is information about what characters will appear,i knew it from chat lgbt

[wind hazel]

past stream

[civic vortex]

ok

[sweet delta]

It does not appear to work on 16-2

[onyx flame]

if you mean new character you gotta wait for streams or news post
old character you can guesstimate by adding 2 year to the date that they ran

[sweet delta]

No cat reloads too

[cobalt rapids]

i got like 2 more clears of 16-1 to do

did u do 6 95k ?

[whole crypt]

I got a kill out of G7ek on Flasher Archerfish and 95k on 404

5/6 of the torps +13

[turbid dawn]

So does clearing the support boss reduce the amount of nodes? Or is it just the amount needed to clear for the boss to appear?

[turbid marsh]

man people clearing w16 while im stil having hard time doing 14-3 hm full lethal XD

[wind hazel]

just play

[velvet slate]

Hmm 16-3 is back to cv supports

[brisk cedar]

is there any replacment for Laffey II for mob fleet inworld 16 ?

[white agate]

yes, its called 7 days

probably can get away with smh else tho since we have so many ur anyway

[velvet slate]

z52, golden lion both work without a problem, eldridge, sandy, and that new dd we just got (but i couldbt be bothered maxing her yet cuz i dont like her much)

[zenith heron]

Any Good Timing Dive Bomber Planes for Boss other than these 2?

[whole crypt]

do we know the exact difference between all the tiers for the entry boss

not really, what do you need

[zenith heron]

Specifically timing fleet of syncing Lexington 2 with Yorky 2 and Kear

[whole crypt]

doesn't that just need Lex II to go after Yorktown

[zenith heron]

I heard about the Dive Bomber at Gear Lab, any news?

[whole crypt]

Suisei 12A is a lab plane

[wind hazel]

su6 sucks

[brisk cedar]

I think i would try Noshiro

[whole crypt]

oh Su-6 is junk yeh

[zenith heron]

Ok, this is all I need to know

[whole crypt]

Corsair is the best timing DB now anyway by a fair bit

anyway Kear needs to go first then Lexington just needs to be around within 2s after Yorktown

[rapid summit]

Is Laffey II a top dd?

[exotic wren]

Who can sub in kears place in that lineup btw? Essegs/Enty or Implac?

[whole crypt]

you can cope with Essex retrofit I guess

[onyx flame]

lion

[whole crypt]

but yeh Lion hits hard enough too

[brisk cedar]

dafaq ? rerun coming ?

[muted wind]

yes

[white agate]

yeah, the 15th

[rapid grail]

any tips on w16? Wanna clear this with my own fleets. No spoonfeeding fleets from CN/JP please. Thanks

[wind hazel]

use UR ships

[muted wind]

current vibe is about the same prep as w14+15, 16-3/4 don't really have too much new going on ultimately

[white agate]

i counter with kurumi op

[whole crypt]

(14+15)/2

[wind hazel]

the sub fleet is garbage, put the better sub on support if you care

[timid moon]

who can equip this?

[whole crypt]

CLs, some KMS destroyers

[wind hazel]

and some CV

[timid moon]

oh let me rephrase that, which DDs can equip the gun i presented?

[white agate]

i think noone?

[wind hazel]

felix, otto

[knotty jolt]

Z23 can

[wind hazel]

but shouldnt

[white agate]

the main question is why do you want a dd with it?

[knotty jolt]

For the ships that do want it to activate some sorta skill

[muted wind]

felix and otto specifically have skills that activate when they use one

for the others, you wouldn't

[white agate]

there are better dd guns, unless they need that specific one

[wind hazel]

[timid moon]

that is besides the point sir, merely curious about the skill

[whole crypt]

Otto and Felix do fine with that CL gun

the CL gun itself has a bonus when used on DDs
less so for Otto but it's fairly good on Felix

[knotty jolt]

The gun that belongs to felix works good on felix crazy

[whole crypt]

off the top of my head for Felix is almost as good as using q152

[wind hazel]

then you heard about musashi gun on musashi, crazy

[whole crypt]

clearly FdG gun must be great

[knotty dome]

w16 chip/oil still worse than w12?

[whole crypt]

16 has no clearing mode yet it's worse for everything regardless

[knotty dome]

aight thanks

[whole crypt]

anyway 15 was already worse than 14 for coins, there's no reason to believe 16 will be better

[rapid grail]

surely 16-1 clearing mode good for cogs right

[whole crypt]

not if there's no oil cap

[stark quiver]

So how did w16 go for you guys

[wind hazel]

it will be 100 cogs per clear

[wind hazel]

at 16-2, both seem trash

[whole crypt]

16-2 is smooth, busy so progress is slow, especially alongside recording

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRjiDZw2jso when I was preparing for 16-2 I realized I didn't even have the correct gear on some shit I used for 16-1

like Cowpens was using G3R1

lol Jimmy streaming 16

[summer patio]

So like I have 3300 coins over my cap, what do I even do with coins?

[strange sphinx]

hmmmm is illustrious is not good world 16? I mean just for the shield

[forest jasper]

she is support fleet only

[strange sphinx]

for fighter efficiency ig

[fast skiff]

What seems to be the best vanguard for world 16 if anything has been tested well enough yet?

[summer patio]

Is there anything I can dump my coins into? Like that's atleast half-decent? (That isnt gacha, cuz im trying to keep cubes)

[fast skiff]

Augments or gear upgrades

[wind hazel]

just keep your coin, 3k over your softcap is nothing

hardcap is 600k

[whole crypt]

if you really want to collect softcap then just LB ships or enhance some gear

[summer patio]

But won't it stop me from getting coins?

[atomic abyss]

Only from the merchant

You can still get coins from other sources

[rapid grail]

which best sub fleet for both on run and on support?

I presume the ones on support need more TRP stat, so the Wolfpacks go to there

[stone sluice]

So do we need 155kai on BBs for w16 as well?

[wind hazel]

maybe spend your coin on research academy then

[whole crypt]

I don't think he's at oil cap yet so coin farming is sus, I'd just spend the coin

[strange sphinx]

Just not from passive income called Merchant

[whole crypt]

I'm sticking with 155k for now not like 20FP makes a huge difference

[tropic hawk]

Yep, understood. I have all other META ships at MLB, so this is the first one I've goofed up on and not snagged all the needed crystals.

[summer patio]

Scepter or Hunting Bow for cowpens?

[whole crypt]

there are probably better ways to spend coins than making a generic aug for Cowpens

[summer patio]

Okay!! What do you suggest?

[wind hazel]

.

[fast skiff]

What seems to be the common fleets people are using for world 16? I can clear the first level but I’m worried about the later ones, was kinda struggling to survive after amo ran out

[whole crypt]

have you tried LBing some ships you have, enhancing some gear you have, or retrofitting some ships you have, or checking depot if anything worth crafting

[summer patio]

Okay, thank you! Although I want to ask, are they long-term imoactful or short-term impactful?

[wind hazel]

can try this https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1hViRBfErt/?vd_source=3747ed6ba1f64bc77a2977630de4bcea

im stealing this

[wind hazel]

long term

[fast skiff]

Won’t let me play it unless I install their app, can you SS what the fleets are? App isn’t available in my country (US)

[mighty tulip]

As a new player after I get the tech boxes should I just go into getting general parts/main gun parts? or should I invest in CleMETA crystals?

[fast skiff]

Or do I need to do this from PC

I can figure out the gear just need to know the ships used

If it’s the same thing I used then there’s just a major skill issue at play lol

[turbid dawn]

Fully cleared 16-1+2 but got work now, is 3+4 looking a lot harder or about the same?

[stone sluice]

So people are using their best sub fleet as support, right?

[whole crypt]

anyway saving 16-3 for tomorrow let me know if you guys find anything interesting

[fast skiff]

Ok nvm I managed to get it to work

[wind hazel]

👍🏼 was about to hit enter button

[fast skiff]

Dang, don’t have William built yet still working on her skills

Oh well, permanent content so no huge rush

[inland shoal]

I doubt Willy D is particularly critical to this fleet

[stone sluice]

What armor are w16 bosses?

[whole crypt]

yeh

[fast skiff]

In the support fleet who are those two SR ships next to Fitz

[whole crypt]

medium medium, not sure what 3 is, heavy

[wind hazel]

m m m h

[fast skiff]

Are those the Chinese carriers

[inland shoal]

Hwah Jah and the other one I forgot the name of just now

[wind hazel]

chen hai. you can use nakh instead of chen hai

[fast skiff]

Daaaang nice, I liked their design so I’m happy I get to use them. Ty my guy

[inland shoal]

Can't believe I forgot the name of such a hottie

[fast skiff]

Nah Chen Hai is hot so I use her

[cobalt rapids]

did u clear with gold subs
my wolves are

[stark quiver]

Do subs actually matter now

[cobalt rapids]

no

[fast skiff]

They always did if you want comfier clears

[whole crypt]

wolfpack probably fairly sus for the entry fight

[turbid marsh]

idk man, feels easier than 15 lethal when it first came out, actually had to manual that shiet

[cobalt rapids]

maybe u got stronger in 2 years more than the game did

[stark quiver]

I’m not shit so ima just assume not

[fast skiff]

Dang bruh

[cobalt rapids]

dont need to be shit to want comfier runs

[whole crypt]

if your subs shit on the opening fight the concealment is visibly worse
if your subs kill on the opening fight apparently there's one less mob fleet to kill before boss

[stark quiver]

I don’t even have two sets of subs raised 💀

[fast skiff]

Wouldn’t hurt to throw them in the dorm and let time do its thing

[whole crypt]

you actually only need 1, I didn't need subs in the main map itself for 1 and 2

[stark quiver]

I’m just putting my best sub fleet for the opening fight then

Forgo actually using subs on clear

[fast skiff]

They make runs comfier but they don’t make or break your run

Now that being said I’m not as familiar with how they impact w-16

[whole crypt]

more than they do 14 and 15

[stark quiver]

Yeah lol

[muted wind]

... did they change the fleet restrictions for w14h?

[fast skiff]

Also what gear we using on Chen Hai and Hwah Jah? Is this similar to the loadout we had on the supports on W-15? Or something completely different?

[stone sluice]

What about 3 starring?

[fast skiff]

The video doesn’t touch on it

[cobalt rapids]

if u mean the fact that it shows 0 if u dont fill all reqs then its bugged(?)

[whole crypt]

I lethal all nodes for both without using subs in-map

[muted wind]

i mean, that too, but it looks like switched the CV and CVL restrictions between fleet 1 and 2 for some reason

[stark quiver]

What fleets and gear

[muted wind]

not even something i would've noticed if it didn't remove my nakhimov... and then i noticed that it was restricted to CVLs

-# not a big deal since i just flipped the fleets, but still weird

[velvet slate]

16-3 is a huge jump in difficulty compared to 1 and 2, 3starring that stage might be annoying

[atomic abyss]

Remember this is normal mode

You can 3* it on safe with enough effort

You're not time gated or anything unlike with 14H

[whole crypt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRjiDZw2jso

[muted wind]

yeah, should be fine at safe.
-# my dumbass better not be tempted to do it at lethal. again

[atomic abyss]

3*-ing on lethal is for pure factor tbh

[whole crypt]

I just checked wiki slot reqs are the same, but when I tried entering just now I was missing 1 carrier, they may have screwed around with the CV slot

[atomic abyss]

Why would you want to make gathering your gems any harder

[sharp comet]

LOL

[velvet slate]

the 3 star battleship enemies are a royal pain in the ass in 16-3, if not paid attention to they can take your falgship from full hp to below half hp

[sharp comet]

its very simple if you are willing to fuck it

[muted wind]

yeah, i did 14-3 and 15-3 like that on release respectively. this isn't even a flex, it's a cry for help

[cobalt rapids]

what else are u gonna do for the next 2 years

[whole crypt]

if they swapped the slots I'd have been missing carriers on both fleet slots

[muted wind]

maybe they accidentally changed something to... overrestrict it? it may have been a CV/CVL slot before?

[muted wind]

i did actually miss them on both slots, which is why that was my assumption

[whole crypt]

wiki says otherwise and the last update was before this patch

[stark quiver]

Bro was boss fight that had to use a healer

[muted wind]

16-2 boss, in no way, requires a healer. actual pushover

[whole crypt]

I'm just forming fleets to be safe

considering I'm recording this from 0 kills and I don't want to rerecord a 17 minute run

[muted wind]

also, does the boss musashi at 16-4 even shell your main fleet? i have not seen her do it yet

[whole crypt]

I haven't been there

[muted wind]

-# right, either way, so far it looks like the BBs before her are the real danger then

[strange sphinx]

when mobs are the real danger

[muted wind]

oh she can still totally shred your vanguard, but it's not a... lethal amount of damage. the patterns are flashy though

[strange goblet]

hello guys, a question about submarine torpedos.
which of the 2 UR torpedos are better? are they worth to craft over the gold ones?

[cobalt rapids]

both are better than the gold ones but they are very expensive

[strange goblet]

i got 90 UR prints laying. just been a while i upgraded my gear for submarines

[muted wind]

which of the 2 somewhat depends on the subs in question, um

[cobalt rapids]

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/gear-lab#other-gear

[muted wind]

https://suchiguma.github.io/deepresearch/submarine-calculator

[strange goblet]

the USS ones and the UR IJN. archerfish, flasher and i-404

[cobalt rapids]

its more about the content than the sub

[strange goblet]

well, W16^^

[muted wind]

i'd personally say the g7es are the... "safer" choice since they are magnetic. if you really want to invest that much

[cobalt rapids]

i would say neither option is safe unless u wanna minmax subs in which case u should do ur research

[civic vortex]

Hi
I heard that the experience the commander(players) receives is equivalent to how much oil we consume, really?

[muted wind]

nope, just player/enemy level difference and how many ships are you sortie in the battle

[turbid marsh]

ships. and level

[civic vortex]

but some exactly information isn't?

[muted wind]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Experience
first section explains it exactly

[civic vortex]

thanks

[tulip tinsel]

<@&472236072743600148>

[cobalt rapids]

rip hacked acc

[onyx flame]

~~shouldnt have click on a link saying free gems ~~

[wind hazel]

what about free fujinami

btw what's the idea behind using VH on Guam for 16-4?

[inland shoal]

Free Fujinami, she is trapped in 16-4 right now and desperate for help

[muted wind]

having seen musashi, um, not sure actually? the slash and star bullet on the boss make it kinda hard to tell what ammo it's like. maybe they know more than us

[fleet marten]

Are there cooldowns for TB's help on OPSI Puzzle areas?

[hollow gust]

nah

just try enough and she will help you

[fleet marten]

[echo vector]

What is the gimmick for map 16 ?

[inland shoal]

Seems like a bit of w14 and w15 with some slight sprinkles of sub support fleet and enemy land air bases

[ivory sigil]

1st time seeing this, 2 hours for some gold bps sound gud for me should i try?

[hollow gust]

nope

[mighty tulip]

Bump 🙏

[strange sphinx]

unless if you really really want that plane but no

[stone sluice]

Bidders + Wolfpack were enough to beat Atago's fight

[wind hazel]

are you in dire need of plates? because meta crystal can be gotten from meta shop, and cleM can reach lv120 without any mlb, so it's not really important

better to get plates if you need them, meta ship is a pain in the ass to raise anyway

[mighty tulip]

This is what I have? If not, do I get the other stuff in High prio then?

[ivory pawn]

Get Cog Arrays & Chips if you haven’t yet imo. Then other high prio stuff sure.

[mighty tulip]

Okay ty

[wind hazel]

there's shop priority in the sheet on pinned message

[woven star]

Are some changes for opsi after patch? some fort posts disappears after usage. unfortunately movement speed on maps still too slow

like material posts... old variant was shown like broken after usage... now it's gone after

[velvet slate]

16-4 was easier than 16-3 altho simply just because of the stage layout (imo)

[robust jasper]

How do I keep my fleet from dying in 15-3?

[hollow gust]

Whats your current comp and what fleet

[turbid marsh]

oof agir

[hollow gust]

I'm guessing both fleets?

[robust jasper]

That's all the fleets for the effort

Musashi keeps dying though......

[hollow gust]

Sounds like a fleet comp issue

[turbid marsh]

ooo amagi in support fleet

[robust jasper]

How 2 fix?

[hollow gust]

Replace some ships , fix the gear

You got the dragon and z52

[robust jasper]

What dragon?

[hollow gust]

Shimanto

[crimson glacier]

how many bosses in w16

[hollow gust]

I heard 16-4 has 4

[crimson glacier]

god dammit

[robust jasper]

Lvl112

[hollow gust]

Supposedly pretty easy in the general scheme

[ruby knot]

16-4 lvl132 boss looks easy imo

[turbid marsh]

yeah musashi gets destroyed by the USS planes

[velvet slate]

The boss of 16-4 is easy

[distant glen]

Is 16 bugged? seems to easy

[velvet slate]

The 3* battleship fights to get to the boss are harder

[robust jasper]

Who do I replace her with

[velvet slate]

The 16-3 and 16-4 3* battleship fights are a nightmare

[robust jasper]

I got most if not every ur main

[hollow gust]

They ment the 16-4 boss Musashi

Not your Musashi

[fast skiff]

What kind of gear do we want on the support ships in 16-4

[turbid marsh]

you are at w15. i see that planes are a problem, so agir has to go out, probably want one of z52, eld kai, shimanto f5, goulden lieu, dezeven to replace your agir

[ruby knot]

Atleast there are no stupid mass production BB with her

Like

Only 2 anti air ships that's all she had

[turbid marsh]

its not your backline that is an issue, its the frontline. backline you can get away with your current set up, but probably need to check gear as well.

[round maple]

To get the best equipment I need to do operation siren?

[turbid marsh]

also kick amagi out if you have essex kai, chinese, or other illu class ships from support fleet XD

[robust jasper]

How would I gear z52 though?

[velvet slate]

Not on the boss itself, but leading up to the boss even light nodes are full of them :))

[hollow gust]

https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-15/. just read the guide

[rain bobcat]

the current frontline is VERY poverty

[fast skiff]

Do we want AA focused gear on the supports or ASW or damage

[turbid marsh]

yeah, any 6 of the top 9 front lines should suffice XD

[robust jasper]

Should this work if I remove agir for her?

[turbid marsh]

yeah i guess, probably prefer a better AA gun though

[rigid onyx]

why do you have the pvp torps at +11 on her

[robust jasper]

I wasn't using her

[rigid onyx]

I mean from the screenshots you've sent you keep on partially leveling up mediocre gear past +10

[turbid marsh]

eh, mediocre gear should be okay, its z52 anyways, stronk.

[forest palm]

just because the ship is good doesn't excuse the waste

[fast skiff]

If we don’t have Golden Leew built whose a good alternative for mobbing or are there any good ones

[rigid onyx]

guam is similar ish

[fast skiff]

Gotcha, def have her built

[turbid marsh]

yeah i agree, but he wants to clear w15 which isn't a high bar anyways nowadays. best to get better stuff when they are very accessible anyway.

[fast skiff]

For the support carriers do we want ASW focused stuff or do we want similar stuff to what was used in W-15

[rain bobcat]

[fast skiff]

It’s been a minute since I’ve done any of this man W-15 was years ago I’m so behind on actually building fleets

[autumn pumice]

Can someone explain to me what's the deal with that instant battle at the entrance of w16 where you have your subs fight Atago? What happens when they sink her and what happens when they don't?

[turbid marsh]

i dont like to think too much so i just copy chinese biliblier

[fast skiff]

Got a good one to copy? I can’t find anyone posting the gear on the support fleet in particular

[turbid marsh]

i am pretty sure same thing would suffice, because they act as airstrike to bomb the ports

i stay in 15-1 most of the time anyway so i don't really swap gears on the 3 ships in support fleet XD

[round maple]

Guys, I have no idea, what should I do next I am so lost with this operation siren thing

[knotty jolt]

If you've not completed the story, then that.

Otherwise just keep clearing nodes and getting resources

[round maple]

I wanted to unlock dailies

[inland shoal]

Enter a map, click uhh information or whatever the button said again and do the mission it tells you

Should also have a red exclamation mark on map most of the time

[vale spindle]

Clear all the zones in the area

[round maple]

right... okay will try my best

[onyx flame]

you have to finish chp 4 of the campaign, think your at 3 rn looking at the map, go into one of the zone and click info then check for uh story/chp and basically do those

[little tree]

Is there a w16 guide yet?

[knotty jolt]

Some very rough ideas and such but nothing concrete but given the responses so far it shouldn't be that hard with what we used for chap 15 and 14

[whole crypt]

build the best bastard child you can between ch14 and ch15 comps and give them everything +13

[neat helm]

w16 seems easier than w14 and w15 were on release relatively

[turbid marsh]

yes, thank you z52 sama.

[whole crypt]

I'm under the impression the numbers are scaled down to accomodate for the gimmicks, you still have to work with the level advantage

[turbid marsh]

oh my lord musashi/raff

[silver lintel]

Do i need to raise frigate for w16

[whole crypt]

not for -1 and -2 at least but you want a very good sub fleet

[rocky pewter]

actually those frigates works against atagos

[whole crypt]

they take around 80 bars on -1 and 70 bars on -2 at lv 125
top sub fleets can kill both

[rapid grail]

is gouden just a better brest or are they not similar at all?

[hollow gust]

Brest is way tankier and has a heal , Gouden has better aa and dps. They aren't really that comparable

[whole crypt]

When the 2nd and 3rd Bombing Raids activate: restores HP equal to 3% of their max HP to this ship as well as the ship in your fleet with the current lowest HP and increases your fleet's AA by 1% (10%) until the battle ends (can be stacked up to 2 times).

[hollow gust]

Huh the fuck? Gouden heals too?

Isn't that heal weaker the Brest though

[whole crypt]

brest heals one other ship once only but it's 8%

second time she procs barrage it's a self heal

[velvet slate]

Chapter 16 doesnt have completion mode?

[turbid marsh]

normally that appears after 2-3 months

[velvet slate]

Rip, if i known i would t have bothered 100% all stages, anyways, thanks

[turbid marsh]

have to do it anyways no?

[whole crypt]

the best you could say is you could saved 3starring for later

or getting to safe

[lime raptor]

They didn't show tempesta gear there. Any info on that?

[velvet slate]

Hella expensive endeavor tho, about 12-13k oil to clear all 4

[whole crypt]

my conclusion was just to use top sub fleet in the end

but if you want it

[hollow gust]

what was the most consistent way you geared your fleet?

[whole crypt]

subs?

[hollow gust]

ya

[whole crypt]

I didn't actually care if I got an A or S, G7ek/snork/hull on fishes, 95k double stick on 404

IX is consistent in output because guns but 125 set can only just do 70 bars for -2, I got a B once for it falling just short

[lime raptor]

I never invested in fishes. Only wolfpack really

and 404 I guess

[whole crypt]

let me try a wolfpack real quick...

[lime raptor]

I never built 95kai torps either

[whole crypt]

bidder wolfpack can do 70 bars for -2

[stark quiver]

@whole crypt did you do -3/4

[whole crypt]

no I'm not doing that till I actually get some sleep

[lime raptor]

I'll give wolfpack a try then thanks

[stark quiver]

damn
i guess its up to me

[velvet slate]

16-3 and 16-4 imo are a totally different story than 1 and 2. 16-3 can be a total bitch if you run into a lot of 3 star bb nods...

In 16-4 u can avoid most 3* BB nods (unless u want 3 stars obviously) but u still need to do 2 or 3 at bare minimum.

[hollow gust]

16-3 and 16-3

[velvet slate]

I mean and 16-4 my bad

[hollow gust]

you used Lion in mob or boss?

[velvet slate]

In mob

[turbid marsh]

none XD

[hollow gust]

Lion and Cowpen eh?

[velvet slate]

Lion percy and unicorn

I tried cowpens and struggled way more

[knotty jolt]

Genuinely how

[velvet slate]

No clue, i tried her after i saw people say she was doing great.

I was still able to beat the mobs with cowpens but it was considerably harder (for me at least)

[hollow gust]

i suspect its rng from the mobs

[turbid marsh]

i mean if percy does the job, then use her. i ll stick with musashi aquila uni just like w15 XD

[stark quiver]

are you guys lethal 3 starring

[knotty jolt]

That's very confusing cause cowpens has like 60% more damage per airstrike then perseus likely higher and that's not includng the 90% increased load time per strike

[hollow gust]

although one can also note her healing is based off her own hp, so thats weaker for higher hp vanguard

[velvet slate]

Theres not much rng in mobs tbh like one or 2 different mobs

But in 16-4 feels like almost all are scripted

[turbid marsh]

will try to do it, but if not possible, then im just going to do safe then. i havne't reach 16-4 yet, and im not planning to do lethal 3star 16-3

[knotty jolt]

How long were the fights tbh?

If they managed to be quick that the 90% load time increase doesn't matter that might be why

[velvet slate]

Fights are not exactly long, but neither are they short, maybe about 40 seconds?

[knotty jolt]

I can kinda see why perseus would be working better but am still surprised cowpens isn't performing as well

[velvet slate]

But my lion was getting nuked in 3* bb nods so i needed the backline heal

Dont get me wrong, im not saying she didnt work. I still beat the stage, but was easier for me with percy

[viscid swift]

why not just rudder the main fleet or something, or Aquila

[turbid marsh]

i thought cowpens does that too no?

laffey2 moments

[stark quiver]

how good is a +0 plygun for 16-1/2

[viscid swift]

don't cheap out here alpa

[velvet slate]

16-1 and 2 are such a joke that honestly dont think it matters

[stark quiver]

ex scores dont dont sweat themselves

[neon finch]

How good can you get a random fleet up to with only gear without actual strong ships

[velvet slate]

Theres people who gave beaten chapter 15 using not so stellar sr ships, so pretty decent

[neon finch]

ok

[rapid grail]

so gouden is brest -tankiness +aa +improved healing. Huh.

Anyways won't bother using her atm, she's still Dev23 lul

on another note, how 2 download l2d?

[stark quiver]

@viscid swift did your subs beat the atago 100%

[tulip tinsel]

Yall which one would be the best in this pile of shit

[stark quiver]

cube analysis

or you take the 6h basic and fuck yourself

[velvet slate]

dont think u can donload the l2ds howevr dm me and i'll tell you how u can put them as your wallpaper or screen saver on your pc

[lime raptor]

Oof I got A rank with Wolfpack support. But still just barely cleared 16-1 with the same mob fleet as JP bro in video

[inland shoal]

Download L2D is in settings

[trim depot]

what should I spend my kast 7k on

[inland shoal]

Unless you mean to the outside of the game, then that's impossible

[rapid grail]

so download basically every l2d in the game?

[trim depot]

I can spend 4K more to mlb Cleveland

[inland shoal]

Idk if you can dl individual L2Ds

[forest palm]

you can but you have to have the outfit

[zealous bough]

What are some good ships to retrofit? I have unicorn and yuudachi only at the moment

[inland shoal]

So not on rentals?

[velvet slate]

sandy and essex probably the best 2 others

[stone sluice]

Do we need as many AA for 16-3 and 16-4 as for w15?

[forest palm]

[zealous bough]

I thought Essex needed her augment or something that I can't get for a while

[inland shoal]

Not the worst thing to spend on, did you buy the oil?

Essex needs a special retro item yes

[trim depot]

i bought mostly everything from the shop outside this picture

[velvet slate]

yeh 3 and 4 have a lot of AA in the fights for your mob team. The boss not so much

[stone sluice]

Thank you

[inland shoal]

Then depends on if you need the PR/DR prints and if Cleve is actually good for you ig

[viscid swift]

no

[stark quiver]

i got B

[trim depot]

r the conversion stones high priority to get btw?

or are they just there if u need them

[onyx flame]

honestly shouldnt ever be running out of conversion stones

[inland shoal]

Considering most augments are bad, not really

You'd run out of exp stones way before these anyway

[warm flax]

What's the requisite for submarine supports?

[stark quiver]

have submarines?

[warm flax]

I mean in 15 u need lotta AA stat

So u slot good AA CVs

[forest palm]

are you asking what the submarine support entails?

[stark quiver]

just slot good subs
there isnt much to it
and id personally slot your best sub fleet in it

[warm flax]

Alright

[knotty jolt]

Stupid question just cause my curiosity is really wanting to know: Can you craft dupe unique augments?

[velvet slate]

seens like u can but im not pushing craft lmao

[stark quiver]

why do you have so little augment stones
like the blue and purple

[hollow plank]

Where do you get more augment stones?

[stark quiver]

idk honestly

[knotty jolt]

you can get alot from grinding

like spamming the shit out of 12-4

[hollow plank]

grinding main story? like 12-4? ohh

[velvet slate]

made a ton of augments and i wasn't active between 2020 and 2023, so technically ive been playing on a daily basis since the senran kagura event.

[stark quiver]

damn

[knotty jolt]

They actually got about similar amounts to me, i got 6.6k blues and 474 purples but only 5 gold rocks

gimme some of those gold rocks for enhancing

[velvet slate]

my goal is to cap my gold storage :))

[ocean terrace]

the weekly augment mission (daily raids) drops purple and blue augments (and module stones)

[velvet slate]

u also get a ton of them from events

[hollow plank]

how do you cap this? To confirm, this is only for attached coins right but you can't move your excess coins already held?

[velvet slate]

by slowly storaging gold and never removing any

[ocean terrace]

soft cap = can't collect from munitions
hard cap = can't gain more from any source

[knotty jolt]

hard cap is 600k for coins and 25k for oil btw

[velvet slate]

im over halfway there

[velvet slate]

the 25k oil should be higher imo

[knotty jolt]

storage is an entirely seperate thing

[ocean terrace]

oh you're including storage...

[hollow plank]

sorry just want to ensure i understood, slowloy storaging gold coming from mail received? or can you store the gold you acquire that's listed on yoru home screen?

[velvet slate]

yeh from mail

[knotty jolt]

only mail goes to storage

[hollow plank]

Ahh. thank you!

[velvet slate]

just a note, if you buy a pack from the store taht comes in a box taht goes in your mail. the gold in that package will go to your storage

But if you buy a package that comes with flat out 15k gold, it goes straight into your regular gold, not your storage

[hollow plank]

and will it go to my storage if it comes in abox but my current oil on hand and gold is not at max cap?

[velvet slate]

they both go automatically in storage regardless if you are capped or not, and you take it out manually

best example of this is the trade license

It gives you daily 1000 gold 200 oil and 1 cube

Regardless how much gold and oil you have, it immediately goes to storage after you redeem it from mailbox

[hollow plank]

Got it. Thank you!

[peak fable]

how much % dmg is 1 point of FP or ACC/HIT for a BB?

if its less than 1%, then you can also just say how many points make 1%

[jaunty vault]

depends on what you compare it to

[peak fable]

lets say I have a ship with 300 FP, how much dmg do I gain at 301 FP

[jaunty vault]

let's say everything else remains constant
then you would gain 0.333%

[red sapphire]

Is Kansas gun any good?

[lime raptor]

yeah after 16-1 I'm gonna just sit until we get level cap increase or something

[jaunty vault]

but there's a lot more than just stats that goes into damage calculation

[peak fable]

I see, so FP stat sticks are less efficient on URs and more efficient Commons, I think that did answer my question. So the more I max my fleet tech, the more my weaker ships get stronger primarily

[vale spindle]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Damage_Calculations i hope you like maths

[crimson glacier]

eh

[peak fable]

I hate math, but I love you, thanks for all ur hard work, greatly helped me

[undone plover]

In general 10 FP is ~1% according to sushi iirc
1 ACC should be more than 1 FP

[vale spindle]

correct but also consider the weaker ships start at such a worse baseline that even if they improve at a faster rate 0 * something is still 0

[crimson glacier]

weak ship with tech is still nothing compared to good ship without tech

[peak fable]

yeah I am aware that this wont make weak ships worth using, but it will diminish the pain of leveling them slightly, most importantly, it tells me that I should not hassle too much with forcing myself to level the weak ships first, but rather to fit them when I have a strong carry im leveling like a UR ship, so it's easier to level them later alongside weaker ships (yes im min-maxing to an unnecessary degree)

but thanks for the info, answered the question i had on my mind

[silent zodiac]

are there any common ships that have a niche or something? its just like Rangerand her RNGesus shenanigans for funsies right?

[peak fable]

Shiranui gives you a funny box with augment, maybe that's a cool niche

[undone plover]

Best advice for painless levelling is
1- level them in easy maps
12-4 is even easier these days with the ammo node being auto picked up
2- mix BB and CV when leveling backliners. Pure BB is pain
3- Use good gear and crossfleet

U can level a lot of tech shitters this way easily

[peak fable]

I actually forgot about the ammo QoL, so is 12-4 actually easier than 12-1 now? cause on 12-1 you have to do one out of ammo battle, but if you have to do no out of ammo battles on 12-4 that would be kinda insane

[onyx flame]

If the grind fleet good enough 12-4 could be better cause you can also use em to beat up the boss for more exp

[ocean terrace]

oh so that means you can 1 fleet it? to farm levels I mean

[peak fable]

oh damn, that makes sense

[forest palm]

essentially, yes, if the fleet is sturdy enough it can mob and boss the 12-4 grind, especially now that pathing picks up ammo

[warm flax]

What's my MLB priority?

[velvet slate]

5 locked bidscuits 😮

[hollow gust]

The bismarcks you locked

[onyx flame]

Lion

[warm flax]

I have MLB bism

[ocean terrace]

I think they like Bismarck, not sure

[knotty jolt]

Zwei lion z52 fritz Trafalgar implacable raffaello and rest whatever

[velvet slate]

but yeh, u can't go wrong with lion

[zealous bough]

What's the one called specialized

[ocean terrace]

UR bulin april fools skin

[knotty jolt]

A bulin with April fool skin

[cloud panther]

So do I use a similar team for 14H and 16-1?

Also what sub to use which slot

[velvet slate]

16-1 and 16-2 don't need much thought, if you can beat 15-4 just slap in some anti sub weapons on your mob fleet and you gonna do it super easy

[crimson glacier]

finally beat 16-4

feels like there isnt much difference between 3 and 4 difficulty, tho dunno about full clears

[quartz breach]

Is world 16 aircraft and submarine heavy?

[crimson glacier]

yes

[quartz breach]

Does it have the nighttime searchlight shit going on too?

[crimson glacier]

i think so?

it just has everything

[quartz breach]

pain

[coarse horizon]

Is the aircraft at the same intensity as World 15? Should I invest in more anti-sub warfare? Like make some of the below gear?

[knotty jolt]

Those torps bruh no

A garnet and your hedgehog with Eldridge should be good enough

[coarse horizon]

Okay. I wasn't sure about the torps. They aren't good, but they are the only ones capable of also hitting subs.

I figured that, if the subs are bad enough, they could help.

[coarse horizon]

RIP

[knotty jolt]

What happened?

[stark quiver]

it seems frontline got nuked

[knotty jolt]

How quickly tho

[velvet slate]

what stage?

[stark quiver]

idk i was looking away
16-1 lol it was probably rng at work

[rigid onyx]

16-1

[velvet slate]

dont use musashi in flagship role

[crimson glacier]

why not

[stark quiver]

oh right
i forgot about that

[inland shoal]

I don't get what Musashi flag has to do with his vg dying tbh

[crimson glacier]

clearly she was in grave danger

[viscid swift]

just closely coppied one of of suchi's W14 hard fleets and it's working fine

[rigid onyx]

16-1 and 2 were fairly easy

I'm out of oil now though

[velvet slate]

musashi tanks damage for your backline, and chapter 16 has a knack for sniping your backline when you fight 3 star bb nods. So she gets busted pretty fast

16-1 and 16-2 are easy though so im sure he can do it without much issue

[crimson glacier]

i used musashi flag on all stages but its kinda scary

[stark quiver]

i did napoli, ply, unzen
ill run three tanks to be safe

[rigid onyx]

is napoli even notably tanky in campaign

[stark quiver]

what

[rigid onyx]

she's a beast outside for sure

[knotty jolt]

I mean one too many unlucky torps ruins any tank

[stark quiver]

chinawall time?

is this tanky enugh

[rigid onyx]

why is your most tanky ship in the middle

[crimson glacier]

i dont think she is the most tanky ship

[rigid onyx]

for campaign? yes

[crimson glacier]

isnt large part of her tankiness the smokes

and they buff all vanguards right

[hollow gust]

No?

[zealous bough]

How long does it take you to get a ship from research generally

[crimson glacier]

just unlock? 1 week because of the timegates

[zealous bough]

I mean like collecting a lot of the papers with their face on it

[crimson glacier]

thats couple months

to get all maxed

its not really a good idea to hyperfocus just one

[zealous bough]

How do you choose what research do to? Generally the sub 3h ones?

[crimson glacier]

if it has a face of a ship then its good

just focus on getting the same season

[zealous bough]

Should i focus on ships or the gear as a noob

[crimson glacier]

i cannot say

[wind island]

i thought it would be gear, since most of the blueprints usable for new players can be bought with coins

[undone plover]

i cant really say 100% but i feel like the extra ammo makes it easier yes
I havent run a lot of 12-1 tho so cant say for sure

[tulip tinsel]

with ammo node on 12-4 you won't have any debuff with only 1fleet

[red sapphire]

Hi, I would like to unlock the R6 siren (I need T2 ordinance testing reports ). How do I clear the quests? Can I do It this month?

[ocean herald]

Manual and safe mode

[eternal basalt]

Promoted Pawns.... so no

[red sapphire]

How do I find them exactly?

[eternal basalt]

You ONLY find them iin the unexplored zone

[undone plover]

check out this sheet https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1N0tPxZVrJIiHzoDLrRGMK4DSALlouFJUPOIjlCw6MnM/edit?gid=1052713990#gid=1052713990
some star missions are rng 1 chance per month

[red sapphire]

Oh, I see. So it keep the progress and next month advances (if lucky )?

[undone plover]

u also need to do this https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_BLbtR7SZ3VUZC1vya-4cmI5LBdH8CFkydg_gxB8nwQ/edit?gid=1564915077#gid=1564915077
for the files

[eternal basalt]

Well, you AT LEAST meet new promoted pawns next month, other goals may not be so lucky

[red sapphire]

But, It keeps progress?

[undone plover]

yes star missions are one time only they dont reset monthly

[eternal basalt]

Takes about ~3 year to complete

[red sapphire]

Oh okay cool. How can I get more T2 ordinance testing reports? I emptied all shops from ports and exchange

Also bought all bosses

[undone plover]

pray for cat node rng

make sure your mob fleet has 2 high level + rarity cats

[red sapphire]

Okay... How do I do that? It's an specific node?

[crimson glacier]

is the cow actually better than uni

[red sapphire]

I think the idea is to play them together

iirc

[undone plover]

no just when u enter every map there is a chance for cat nodes to appear
and your fleet should auto path to them and "dig for treasures"
and those could give u T2 ordnance

it is a very low chance though
I wouldnt expect more than 3-5 per month from cats

[red sapphire]

I need 3 to craft a T3 to build the UR ijn aircraft

Any corrosion level?

[undone plover]

u need 8 to craft 1 T3

oh u meant u need 3 more

[red sapphire]

I have 5

[red sapphire]

Yes

[undone plover]

well just make sure u clear everything

[crimson glacier]

btw is 16-4 always the same

feels like i always see the same fleets same size on same place

[undone plover]

hidden zones and abyssals and strongholds and daily missions
when u have excess AP left go to Corrosion 3 secured zone and repeat and stop for akashi (merchant)

[red sapphire]

Okay
I'm doing all that stuff. I have a lvl 30 and a lvl 17 cats on mob fleet. Is that enought?

[undone plover]

25+ better
make sure both are gold cats

[red sapphire]

Yes they are. How can I rush the level? Like I can feed them but does playing give them exp?

[undone plover]

yes but it is slow

feed them and put them in com-fort for passive xp

[red sapphire]

Okay
Thank you so much for all

[hollow plank]

is tehre something i should buy here on the shop? oir just keep buying UR b ulins? i don't have any UR items here(i also have warspite retro and an shan already)

[undone plover]

for the gray currency buy the UR bulins when u need to use them (dont buy them and let them take dock space - buy when u are ready to MLB some ship)
at some point u might want to grab retro item for sandy but only really for ch15+ and 13 hard mode

for the blue currency:

[hollow plank]

srry missed sandy. i already have sandy retro. xD adn thank you for hte guide ! i'll read it ❇️

[hollow birch]

can someone show me the current best BB boss fleet lineup

[turbid dawn]

Soooo, I'm up to 16-3 and the difficulty seems to have spiked a hell of a lot, is there a guide on what to do here because I feel like I'm doing something wrong. 2 Large air fleets are just decimating my backline

[crimson glacier]

i dunno if its any different but i always took the lower path

and i assume you are using subs

[turbid dawn]

Oh, I guess I'll try that

And I am yes

[crimson glacier]

i mean it could just be the same ships, i never tried the top

and i just used the usual musasahi aquila uni backline

[turbid dawn]

Yeah that seems to be better, 1st fight was taking 1/2 my backline hp off going down the middle

[crimson glacier]

dunno if i did anything but nice if its working out

[undone plover]

top BB fleet is sth like Lion + mecklenburg/alsace/soyuz/zwei
idk if vanguard still in contention

[cloud panther]

Yay 14H team survived

[karmic fjord]

Holy what are these enemy levels? I'm coming back to the game after 2 ish years.

[turbid dawn]

I still don't get why Cowpens does so much more then Uni with the exact same loadout+ Uni gets a preloaded. Same was happening in 16-1/2 too

[crimson glacier]

i never tried her

probably should level her

and honestly preload doesnt seem that important anyway in w16, the first wave is just so whatever

and it was kinda teh same thing in w14 and 15 too

[hollow plank]

hi! last question, how many tickets does one prototype tenrai need or the UR item? is it the whole 50? thanks!

[boreal wagon]

i mean cowpens has better stats (even ignoring her skills), better barrage (technically not even just better she just has one which uni doesnt even lol) and also an entire extra plane

[red sapphire]

Yes. Remember you always can check on the crafting part of your depot. So you can see how much you need and how much are left to buy

[modest birch]

Hey guys , how does chapter 16 goes ?same as 15 or the level way up ?

[velvet slate]

first 2 stages are super easy but the last 2 stages are much harder than 15

[cloud panther]

Just did 16-1 first try

No unicorn or daily heal or sub strike

[boreal wagon]

16-1 and 16-2 are honestly kind of a joke

[modest birch]

i can go with the same load out as my 15-4 no issue?

[strange sphinx]

wait true fog of war?

[cloud panther]

I didn't oneshot sub fleet though dunno how much that changes

Got a B on that

[velvet slate]

kinda yes, you don't see what a nod is until you are right next to it

[boreal wagon]

the entire sub support mechanic is skippable

[hollow plank]

Thank you!

[boreal wagon]

so it basically changes nothing lol

[cloud panther]

Pray the new ship isn't dropped from sub fight

[velvet slate]

and most of the map is blocked and you can't sail to each enemy to check so you are don't know hat you are dealing with especially on first attempts

[turbid dawn]

So I've gotten to the boss, where are these air support platforms you're meant to bomb?

[boreal wagon]

16-4 doesnt even have that mechanic

[strange sphinx]

wait if this sushi boss fight, in terms of history, is this battle ofnleyte gulf?

[proper violet]

How does one get the blueprint currency?

[boreal wagon]

https://cdn.mrlar.dev/i/yCtMQds0QhIKsmMwMiG5Y.png

[velvet slate]

wait u r meant to bomb stuff :))?

[boreal wagon]

you can even see the bases through fog

but you cannot bomb them through fog!

[turbid dawn]

So it's just the 1 per stage?

[boreal wagon]

no 16-4 has 3

[cloud panther]

Fog blocks bombs

[boreal wagon]

i believe 16-3 also has 2

[turbid dawn]

And I'm presuming this'll stop a lot of the planes coming in that are just too much to shoot down?

[proper violet]

How do you get the other currency at proto shop?

[strange sphinx]

Carpet bombing it is

[boreal wagon]

it reduces planes yes

[velvet slate]

so if you bomb these bases the enemies become easier :O? lol i didn't even know this and did 100% on that without knowing about this lmao

[mortal loom]

It will reduce them

[boreal wagon]

i think it also did somthing to fog

[mortal loom]

That full clear was a hard one

[cloud panther]

No uni

[mortal loom]

Cowpen sure was something else

[turbid dawn]

Ill try to 100% next round then since I have a better idea now

[cloud panther]

DD full

[boreal wagon]

cowpens actually heals better when the ships are on the lower side of hp

[turbid dawn]

Yeah its 8% of cowpens HP

[mortal loom]

Yeah, 16-3 has one on top left one on bottom right, 16-4 has one on top left and two on bottom right

[strange sphinx]

so we are attacking Air bases now

[cloud panther]

Still want another hedgehog

[proper violet]

How do we get the other currency at the proto shop?

[mortal loom]

I want infinite number of them

[velvet slate]

if it reduces plane numbers doesn't exactly solve the issue of those scumbag battleship nods, or does it?

[mortal loom]

No

What I did in 16-3 is call in my submarine late

[strange sphinx]

other currency? you mean the blueprint one?

[mortal loom]

Like about 30s into the battle, because the issue is the top right one

So you kinda wait and let submarine kills it

[stark quiver]

you guys using subs?

[proper violet]

Yes

[eternal pine]

hi which one of these is better on portland?

[strange sphinx]

wait a sec, I don't remember the correct term

[mortal loom]

If you want to clear in red sea probably you have too

[mortal loom]

The right one

[strange sphinx]

there are two ways to get it, one is Analyzing Excess Blueprint from PR or DR ship (Meaning those who are maxed upto Development 30 or Fate Simulation 5) second is those.... wait let get back to this ok

[eternal fiber]

I've been seeing that Trafalgar is used a lot in high difficulty stuff, could someone explain why she's used? Just curious since I don't know why she's used a lot.

[red sapphire]

Support carrier fleet activate cross fleet effects?

[proper violet]

Excess? As in after all is mlb?

[strong tartan]

no, skills are disabled for carriers in support fleet

[mortal loom]

She buffs Lion, which is a ship that’s used extremely often, and herself just has very good dpm in general

That two combined basically make her having very high effective damage contribution

[red sapphire]

Has slow and decreases evasion wich is great

[eternal fiber]

oooh, I see. I'll get to work on building her then. Thanks for the info

[hollow birch]

is there a tierlist somewhere because i got the new stuff but im still using musashi, bismarck and vnaguard

[eternal fiber]

there's slaimuda's tier list but that hasn't been updated since september, so it's a bit out of date

I don't know any very up to date tier lists though

[red sapphire]

You might want to have a look at this
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13YbPw3dM2eN6hr3YfVABIK9LVuCWnVZF0Zp2BGOZXc0/edit?usp=drivesdk

[turbid dawn]

Is there any way to stop these damnned Kongoues taking 1/2 the HP off my unrevealed backline?

[stone sluice]

Why arent some people using unicorn for 16-3/4?

[boreal wagon]

because they use dds and vanguard which cowpens is better suited for

[mortal loom]

Because she lack damage

[boreal wagon]

that too yea

[mortal loom]

Which isn’t an issue if you want to clear the level, but for a full clear it matters

Like 16-4 is extremely trivial if you just want to win, because you can get to the boss in like 4 battles? But then the remaining 10 mob is an issue

[hoary relic]

guam and laff2 gonna rerun soon?right?

[red sapphire]

At 15 iirc

[hoary relic]

then who should i lmb first will.d.port or laff2

[stone sluice]

So what main fleet works for 16-3/4? assuming it’s only DDs on vanguard

[strange sphinx]

ahm something like that but you need BP for those ships not bulins so it is quite counter productive unless that BP is already exceed the needed bp for that ship.
Rhe second method is Analyzing this

[boreal wagon]

i mean there was one posted right here

[mortal loom]

What I used

If it worked full clear it would definitely work for progression

[red sapphire]

No idea, didn't have time to read the new UR

[hoary relic]

[proper violet]

Should I analyze all?

[hoary relic]

yes, definitely

[proper violet]

Hot

[stone sluice]

And what for boss?

My W porter is 114 so I guess so have to farm exp before trying

[mortal loom]

Boss I used Musashi Lexington II Aquila, but you can definitely swap those 2 for any good healer + Fighter CV (Yorktown II or Rumey) with Gouden, Guam Shimanto

[eternal fiber]

while I haven't used will.d.port, I've used Laffey 2 before and she's been amazing

[mortal loom]

Boss fight in general is very easy, also the whole W16 is easy if you only want progression and not be an idiot like me to do the full clear at red sea.

[mighty tulip]

Trying to make a 2nd fleet to not overuse oil while doing war archives polaris to get commander level up, any suggestions?

[mortal loom]

I mean you can swap the porter to some other UR dd probably also fine

[undone marten]

What was your mob fleet ?

[mortal loom]

Like, if you want to get 100% on the level, you need to do 5-6 battle before the boss fight, which is easy
If you want full clear you need to do about 12 battle, and the 6 extra you all have damage output halved, which is much harder

[eternal fiber]

yeesh, sounds rough

[stone sluice]

I attempt 3 starring the whole world turns out 16-3 was different than I expected.
So gonna try what you used but I need to level up a couple ships

[eternal fiber]

good luck trying to pick the wreckage out of those seas, goddamn

[stone sluice]

Are Aquila and Cowpens oathed?

[mortal loom]

I gotta say, I think 16-4 is easier somehow

[eternal fiber]

looks like it?

[mortal loom]

Yes everything is oathed

[pale epoch]

question about william d. porter !!! from her skill desc it looks like she's more torp barrage focused, should i prioritize low reload time on her main gun so she can fire her torpedoes faster?

[stone sluice]

As usual

[turbid dawn]

How're you 100%-ing? I'm having issue with every BB node that Kongous are just destroying my unrevealed backline when out of ammo

[eternal fiber]

who are the ships on the support fleet btw? I recognize illustrious but not the other two

[boreal wagon]

indomitable and Hwah Jah

actually
thats chen hai not indomitable

[proper violet]

Do I use this?

[crude kelp]

Is there one boss in 16-4 or multi?

[eternal fiber]

huh, I see. also does auto search now pick up ammo drops on the field? I think it just happened to me when I was autoing 12-4 pretty sure it never did that before, unless I'm derping

[hollow gust]

4

[mortal loom]

Basically you call in the submarine extremely late, 16-3 I call in at 40s, 16-4 I call in at 35s
For your own fleet just observe roughly the timing those battleship that will appear, you want to let submarine deal with it.
Also I found the 2 star scout in 16-3 and 2 star BB in 16-4 actually heals you (as in you gain hp after battle), so try slot them in.

[knotty jolt]

on owari yes

[proper violet]

Ight bet ty

[boreal wagon]

there is one boss in all stages of chapter 16

[hollow gust]

wait thats a intersting backline, you got gear for all your fleets?

[crude kelp]

ty

[boreal wagon]

its been a thing for a few maints now but yes its fairly new

[mortal loom]

Give me a minute let me pull out the website

[eternal fiber]

I see, thanks

[hollow gust]

huh the bilibil video shows multiple boss spawns, am i going insane?

[eternal fiber]

also I hope it won't take me much longer to dev 30 Mecklenburg, been wanting to use her in battles but i'm still looking for the blueprints

[deft cloud]

So many submarines but idk who to lv up quicker.

[knotty jolt]

ignore them

[hollow gust]

those are not worth leveling

[knotty jolt]

1. those aren't usable, even for a wolfpack that's weak
2. considering their levels and your server status you're new and shouldn't be using them yet to begin with

[viscid swift]

yes

[deft cloud]

Yeah just been getting them lately and I'm on stage 6-2 atm

[eternal fiber]

Yeah, best to just wait for higher rarity submarines

[deft cloud]

Alright 👍

[junior walrus]

Any changes I could make to fleet. I think my gear on my fleets is “decent” and the gear shit confuses me tbh. Just looking for simple upgrades I could make to push campaign further for now. I’m on 11-2 3 star.

[knotty jolt]

put nelson as flagship at the very least

[eternal fiber]

I'm surprised you're not using a BB for the flagship

[deft cloud]

Okay I will also put them in commissions if I really need to.

[hollow gust]

not even worth commisions

[deft cloud]

Would you say to retire them tho?

[eternal fiber]

Aquilla's a good healing ship so level her and skill her

[hollow gust]

just keep them

[deft cloud]

Ok

Is there a particular stage I can get a sr submarine?

[junior walrus]

Would I put her with either of these fleets?

[knotty jolt]

Yes but no, war archives has one but it's not a good one

[junior walrus]

Flagship is middle right? Sorry I’m mobile only so going back and forth is annoying

[ivory pawn]

Unless you get lucky while pulling on event banner, you're best off waiting for Flasher to rerun (later this year iirc) before working on subs imo.

[mortal loom]

Ignore levels obviously
Technically from general game knowledge, you probably should using the Dual 137mm for secondary, slot in a Rudder of some sort instead of the Type 1 shell, why I didn't? Because I was using Musashi and failing, and I forgot to change the gear, after 16-3 I forgot again and cleared 16-4 anyway
I don't think Z-52 need two survival gear, you can probably slot in a depth charge in there, the whole w16 is about backline survival

[ocean herald]

Oh, they can even reach the boss in four

[deft cloud]

Thank you everybody

[knotty jolt]

yes middle in the back row is flagship

[eternal fiber]

you could put her with unicorn and make a mob fleet with a BB and 2 healer CVs

[hollow gust]

you dont use wyverns and spearfish? huh its easy asf then

[junior walrus]

So like Nelson as flagship, unicorn, and aquilla?

Then just throw more DPS for boss fleet?

[eternal fiber]

yeah, that could work well

you can replace Nelson when you get a better BB

[mortal loom]

No because BR810 is as fast as spearfish and is an interceptor, wyvern in general is phased out even in w15 because it is so much slower and couldn't really match the frequency of enemy incoming planes

[stone sluice]

How replaceable you think is W Porter ?

[junior walrus]

Current BBs. Should BBs always be flagship?

[mortal loom]

Quite

[eternal fiber]

Yeah, BB works best as a flagship

[mortal loom]

You need 3 good DDs, but there's like 4, or rather 4.5, Balf and Eldrich should both work as well

[eternal fiber]

since they have the highest HP

[stone sluice]

What other dd might work apart from z52 and Laffey II
I always get bad rng when using Eldridge

[eternal fiber]

btw, who should I try to get to Dev 30 first, Gouden Leeuw or Mecklenburg? I'm working on Mecklen right now but I thought I'd ask just to be sure

[hollow gust]

hmm wyevrn was fast enough for me, prob was too reliant on vanguard carrying me though, now i kinda want to see your other fleets

[mortal loom]

idk, but well, like, if you just want to clear and not do the stupid full clear, you can use Gouden or Napoli as a replacement.

The other fleet is whatever, you can dump in any 3 UR vanguard of your interest, add unicorn, add at least 1 UR CV, then it will do the boss fight

boss fight has been a joke since w14, the mob is the scary part

[sweet delta]

They nerfed u81 because the battle ends as soon as the last sub retreats

[red sapphire]

Should I craft those for ch15?

[hollow gust]

it helps, and its cheap as fuck, so why not

[red sapphire]

Yeah that's what I thought. Wanted to make sure just in case

[mortal loom]

maybe not with that budget, You can try just use the purple one. But yes those are the best support CV planes

[hollow gust]

its quite funny how popular potter got

[cloud panther]

Those instead of the pancake?

[junior walrus]

Also for gear in general I should be maxing out project siren as much as possible right?

[hollow gust]

cheeky was completly shitting on her on release

[mortal loom]

yes

[hollow gust]

ya better then pancake

[cloud panther]

Fuk I went all in with +13 pancake

[south ridge]

In OperationSiren, how can I check where is a specific Daily Mission?

[junior walrus]

Any reason to fight more ships after a hidden zone has been cleared?

[ivory pawn]

Better than pancake *on support fleet. You'll still want pancakes on the regular fleets.

[ivory pawn]

When in a zone, tap Information, then View on the mission you want to find.

[mortal loom]

No, if you can exit from the hidden zone (I assume gold compass?) just collect everything and leave.
Also FYI those blue mob ships gives 0 exp, only those red ships gives exp

[cloud panther]

Unless you have buncha orange slots covering your red slots they are quite visible on the map

[hollow birch]

im a bit braindead to use this could you just name the strongest lineup

[south ridge]

Thanks I was using the full zone map lol

[hollow gust]

whats wrong with my sub flleet, keeps losing -_-

[pulsar topaz]

wrong gato

[mortal loom]

I think it's the timing, I didn't call them in at start, it is better to wait like 10-15s at least so they can target a wave on the timing that your main fleet isn't attacking and vanguard isn't launching torps

[pulsar topaz]

I think most people are using Albacore as the middle and flasher with I-404

[rapid shard]

Flasher wants flag and 404 wants the g7es over flasher

[red sapphire]

Depending on what you need It for. Armor type etc. Probably someone else can give you better advice because I lack Alsace and other stuff... so I didn't try my self

[mortal loom]

Also I did slam 6 type 95 kai, feels better to me

[hollow gust]

My problem is uhhh Yeaah

i spent way too much on surface torps -_-

[rapid shard]

This was suchis recs pre rainbow G7e

[mortal loom]

yeah and that

[hollow gust]

in the similar video there was also the 2type95s+2 oxytorps

[rapid shard]

Been a min since I watch it but does 404 get that extra reload with the 95s like she can with the G7Es?

[cloud panther]

125 perhaps?

[mortal loom]

Yes, been a while

I-404 just has so much numbers that you have to include her in the sub fleet, then the other 2 is just whatever pair or even individual submarines you want to run

[hollow gust]

i keep bringing maya down to 20 bars and thats it

[fast skiff]

What’s the best alternative to the gridman aux piece

[mortal loom]

There really is none. Just any generic 550hp gear

[hollow gust]

Is there a difference between A and S for sub intercept?

[mortal loom]

Yes, but probably won't matter, I didn't get S and still just cleared it anyway.
16-1 and 16-2 are very easy

[hollow gust]

Already cleared 16-1/2 , it's just bothering me that I couldn't get a S

[marble moss]

just came back after a multiple year break. there were only a few UR gear in the game when I left, now there's many. I have 4298 prototype core from converting blueprints, which UR gear should I get from the shop first?

[rapid shard]

Tenrai

[boreal wagon]

2 flashers

[hollow gust]

oh wait flasher MB

i wonder why this doesnt outright kill maya though :/

[rapid shard]

404 in bottom slot doesn't do better?

[hollow gust]

does it matter?

[boreal wagon]

it can

[elfin hamlet]

I just started playing azure lane. What important dailies should I collect? And how do I roll for units? With the cubes?

[hollow gust]

yeah no it doesnt, is it worth putting snorkel instead of Hull on flasher though?

[rapid shard]

https://azurlaneecgc.com/
Give this a read

[red sapphire]

Does ch15 support fleet gain exp?

[mortal loom]

No

[boreal wagon]

(neither do either of the ch16 ones)

[red sapphire]

Okay, thank you both

[sweet delta]

According to this video I found, it matters a lot

[worn aspen]

Is there a way to consequentially auto battle the meta Yorktown boss?

[hollow gust]

bleh its 1 mob

[mortal loom]

Ahh I see, fair enough

[hollow gust]

how did lion go for you vs raffey

[mortal loom]

wdym?

[hollow gust]

for mob, did you test lion

[mortal loom]

No but it will be worse than Musashi and Raffaello. The heal is just much more valuable

But if you just want to clear, ie do 5 battles, then lion is totally fine

[hollow birch]

this, what bb fleet can single try it

[red sapphire]

Can someone help here? No idea about oneshots

[mortal loom]

Probably any 3 new™ UR BB will do. One shot that thing is not a high bar

[white agate]

one shooting harbiter this month is either 3 BB he guns, so the lion gun and the other rainbow ur, or eagle union lex2,keasarge,yk2 roket planes

[mortal loom]

Yeah and it’s more about your gear (+13s) and your fleet tech. Max fleet tech is literally 2 extra auxiliary gear equivalent

[white agate]

yes, i used only 1 BB +13 gun and nearly one shooted it

the vanguard i used was discutuble too

[red sapphire]

You guys talking about the hard one?

[white agate]

amd i had not even included the new ur sub for cf

[white agate]

yes?

[red sapphire]

Okay

[trim depot]

is Saratoga the only one here worth getting her unique Aug

[white agate]

for the normal one 3 UR BB with he guns shoyld one shoot it

[hoary relic]

in case you r using her rn then yes

[hollow gust]

Arbys really hate BBs , hybrids and CV fleets just do better

[hoary relic]

i just got 1 meck gun rn, should i go for another one or go for la9

[white agate]

idk, i nearly one shooted it with only 1 +13 gun

[stark quiver]

Nearly? 💀

[hoary relic]

arybs? what is that.-.

[mortal loom]

Uhhh, well, that’s that
This is my Yorktown Meta fleet with SAP gun and La9, unoptimised for this but anyway it’s a one shot
I wouldn’t really work for Arbiter one shot because one it is very easy, two it doesn’t yield you anything. As long as you kills it it’s fine

[hoary hound]

Any good replacements for i404 in w16? I have every sub but her unfortunately

[hollow gust]

Boss dependent

[white agate]

i was using only 1 +13 gun ok?

[hollow gust]

Albacore

[stark quiver]

I one shot with zero back then

[white agate]

i am using a non functional vanguard on the bb fleet

[hoary relic]

what r u guys talking abt? harb?

only harb strength makes me struggle but other 2? meh

maybe i lack of CVs

[stark quiver]

I struggle with one strike strength

[hoary relic]

btw, laff2 gonna rerun soon, should i save bulins for her or lmb will.d.port

[cloud panther]

Is there any Formi stop as sub skill? Hate to see rainbow torp fly off to water

[white agate]

||i hate her, can she stop making my screen pov vibrate ||

like stop jumping ffs

[stark quiver]

oh right yea

[hoary relic]

and her leap takes nearly half of my vang hp if i dont pay attention

[hoary relic]

dawg bro go out and touch grass

bro u do need to touch some grass

[knotty jolt]

That's not that bad

[mortal loom]

Ngl wasn’t too bad, I started grinding only at like 17.00? So 7 hour ago

[hoary relic]

wild

[knotty jolt]

Could be worse, like those two guys i saw on like was it avrora? who had 400k event points for lexi2 event

[white agate]

where 3 star

[mortal loom]

You need to ask them why asking for 50 mobs when full clear is 14 and boss fight is 4

I’ll be back with that damn 3 star in an hour

[stark quiver]

average azur lane gameplay

[white agate]

some people use underhanded tactics, tho idk about them

[knotty jolt]

next highest had literally half their amount

[hoary relic]

🙏🏿bet that guy spent lots of oil for hvar

[white agate]

unless you can proof they are botting there is nothing that can be done

[mortal loom]

Well I mean that’s like 8k B1 game

[white agate]

tho idk, maybe they whaled too to get 400k?

[knotty jolt]

this was the screenshot

[mortal loom]

They could in theory say, it’s 20 day event so they just got 400 games a day, which idk is like from they woke up to they sleep

[hoary relic]

i only got 2 hvar at 92k

[mortal loom]

Oh wait no that doesn’t add up, they definitely grinded a lot of oil because B1 can’t be faster than 4 minutes

[white agate]

i got 2 hvar and ended the event at 120k

[knotty jolt]

Btw question for ya orca

at any point during ch16 did ya need to exit and re enter battle cause rng fucked up somwhere

[white agate]

yeah, that is why i have some suspicions, tho i can't prove anything , maybe they just whaled

[mortal loom]

Not exit the campaign because actually the map has very little rng. But I did exit the battle few times because bad rng and too much suicide boate

Also in trial runs a lot more simply because I kept failing

[knotty jolt]

ye was referring battle to reset hp

ok good to know

[crude kelp]

Did u make 16-3 16-4 full clears on lethal?

[mortal loom]

Yeah I posted image earlier

[stark quiver]

gameplay maxxer

[mortal loom]

Those

[crude kelp]

Full auto?

[mortal loom]

Could definitely be more optimised, but well that’s left for those who will bother. I need to grind for that ship now

Yes, did few resets but full auto
But I did call submarine manually (very delayed timings)

[stark quiver]

subs carry a lot?

[mortal loom]

100%

Those are my timings, I only called submarine on no ammo
16-3: BB at 40s, Cruiser at 20s
16-4: BB at 35s, Cruiser at 25s, Transport at 20s
I highly recommend whatever you put on top position use Type 95 Kai

[hoary relic]

so type 95 kai is better than g7e improved?

[cobalt gate]

So for 16-3 and 16-4 I can do just 4 mob battles?

[mortal loom]

5 for 16-3 iirc but yes, no full clear is very easy

[zealous bough]

Are any of the 1-5 priority ships good

[cobalt gate]

Nice. How is the cog drop in chap 16

[mortal loom]

In this occasion, or rather imo for all main campaigns, yes Type 95 Kai is the Goat, because your target really don’t move. The elite is never the issue that god damn battleship hiding on top right corner is

[mortal loom]

Not good… yet. There’s no oil cap for now, or for the foreseeable few months

[cobalt gate]

Oh forgot we don’t get oil cap at release

Guess I’ll be staying at chap 15

I heard planes are not as bad as chap 15?

[mortal loom]

More like every single feasible vanguard has good aa so it’s fine ish. The main concern is BB crossfire and suicide boats

[stark quiver]

155 kai gaming?

[mortal loom]

That’s the funny part, light cruiser wasn’t quite on the useable list.

Maybe Plymouth is fine but that thing definitely uses quad 152

I was using Gouden + 2dd until I decided that was not working and went for 3dd

[stark quiver]

im probably rolling with this

[zealous bough]

[white agate]

cowpens works over zuihou right?

[stark quiver]

idk i dont have her raised

[white agate]

or zuihou does smh better?

[mortal loom]

cowpen is goated, this thing just have way too much dpm

[stark quiver]

zuihou heals the frontline better

i might need to make some more UR dd guns for the subs

[mortal loom]

But Cowpen heals back line and that was the issue, at least for me

[stark quiver]

zuihou does too

[white agate]

cringe

[hoary relic]

me who is still chilling at w13

[mortal loom]

Finally. Now where’s my Fujinami

[knotty jolt]

Your oil

[crisp wraith]

I still need to 3 stars 16-2

[stone sluice]

It worked for me. Now time to try 3 starring 16-3. Did you do it on lethal, right?

[mortal loom]

Yes

[stone sluice]

How many land bases on 16-3?

[mortal loom]

You can icons see on top left, no defense up.
One on top left, one on bottom right

[mortal loom]

Also check out this. @stone sluice

[stone sluice]

Thank you, I figured those same timings while playing.

Is it worth air striking the base on the bottom right or ships if I plan to 3 star?

[mortal loom]

Base I think, it doesn’t do much to ships anyway I felt like

[stone sluice]

[mortal loom]

But I am very unsure on this one, you might have a point here because aa is less an issue than the BB on no ammo

I striked base but it might not be the best

[blissful hamlet]

is fujinami any good?

[mortal loom]

It’s certainly not good enough for anyone who can clear w16

[blissful hamlet]

[soft raft]

Speaking of W16
How bad it is compared to 14 and 15

[mortal loom]

If you just want to clear everything (without full clear on lethal) it is easier, a lot easier. Mostly because 16-3 only needs 5 mob and 16-4 only needs 4 if you know the path.
Full clear on lethal is harder than 15-3 back in the day it was released

[sweet delta]

It seems to be a joke

[mortal loom]

Which is a good thing, if you want to push yourself it is hard, but otherwise it isn’t

Annnd, it is not bugged unlike w15 on release

[stark quiver]

there are certain paths? skull

[faint jacinth]

is hard mode stage not working? i cant enter on it even with my fleet

[sweet delta]

Well chapter 16 is not bugged, but chapter 16 release made hard mode bugged

[hybrid forge]

OK so what's the general consensus on the ideal team for Chapter 16?

[soft raft]

So how easily can I get away with just recycling my W15 fleet

[mortal loom]

Basically

Red is the path you take, yellow is the path you go, bomb the airfield and back.

[stark quiver]

so just avoid enemies and clear what i need to speedurn boss