gameplay-help

[rapid shard]

Youll gain affinity doing that

[whole crypt]

that I have just all the other +13 torps I don't want to say I made

[south sequoia]

Yukikaze aug

[rigid onyx]

yukikaze did not break pvp lol

[viscid swift]

Yuki didn't really break the meta though

[rapid shard]

Yuki was just a upgrade over JintM right?

[south sequoia]

ah, then just 2 times
thats still pretty absurd

[stark quiver]

perhaps

[whole crypt]

you gain affinity autosummoning them in stages, just not in OS
if you want you can secretary them to 90 first, or even more now while blessings is on

[viscid swift]

if anything Glorious META/Nahkimov was a bigger change

[lyric stump]

I mean emote or whatever u call it. Like it goes down every game and u get them back in dorm

[wind hazel]

glom>nak no cap

[rigid onyx]

kotori bigger change than yuki

[stark quiver]

lion and lex2
nothing else was as impactful

also lex2 is like laffey2 levels of brick

[whole crypt]

subs don't lose morale when summoned, they only do when sunk

[rapid shard]

Im like 99% sure that doesnt really apply to subs.

[wind hazel]

who is lexii replacing on backline?

[lyric stump]

So inf summon?

[rigid onyx]

glorm or nakh

[stark quiver]

your only cv bro

[wind hazel]

wow that sucks

[lyric stump]

Woa thats great

[whole crypt]

well for as long as they have ammo, and as long as you can afford the additional oil

[wind hazel]

at least i can use lexii i guess

[south sequoia]

By the way, so I'm still not able to start my pr8 because im still finishing off napoli
Since I'm starting pr8 late what gear should I focus copies on? meck gun or la9s?

[stark quiver]

that sucks dick because the 2nd +13 spearfish is useless now

[lyric stump]

Bac to topic worth for 2 g7e or no just for 404

[viscid swift]

honestley fuck Napoli

[stark quiver]

17k fleet power

[wind hazel]

im still using seydlitz and jinM

[rigid onyx]

jinM is fine

i swapped to ykk though

[whole crypt]

what's wrong with 17k

[lyric stump]

I hav 19k on my cross fleet idk how

[stark quiver]

i think g7es arent better than 95kai in bossing
lowkey parroting off someone else tho

[viscid swift]

she has one real use case which is boss tank in W14-4H which even then she doesn't have a monopoly on

[lyric stump]

I dont have 95k tho

I only got 6. Bidder

[wind hazel]

make it or just make g7eK

[south sequoia]

all that tankiness but not much merit when she can't fully protect everyone

[lyric stump]

2 ur torp aux for 404?

[south sequoia]

or do all that much dmg

[viscid swift]

Eldridge made her and other high eHP tanks redundant

[whole crypt]

for the record my LexII isn't 125 yet so there's some headroom there but that's basically 18k back line

[stark quiver]

O yeah ur fine then

[lyric stump]

Who flag?

[rapid shard]

Flasher

[whole crypt]

Flasher

[stark quiver]

are you not a skin buyer

[whole crypt]

I choose what skins to buy
I also don't use a skin just because I have it

[stark quiver]

oh wow

[rain bobcat]

[wind hazel]

think so yes

[lyric stump]

Good?

Ima lv them up gonna take months ig

[wind hazel]

archer top

[whole crypt]

go dig up stig's 404 vid but she can do double oxytorp regardless of torp setup I think, unless you're trying to 4-round G7e

[lyric stump]

Ok

[stark quiver]

I’m using this

[rigid onyx]

unless you're using t95k dont double oxytorp

[lyric stump]

K who i listen

[whole crypt]

check stig's video lol

[wind hazel]

the one who makes the content of the guide you are reading the most on this channel

[lyric stump]

The cn vid i watched said 2 oxy but thats bac in september. No g7ek

[wind hazel]

and g7ek has almost identical timing with g7e....

[wary skiff]

is sp worth doing once a day for hvar prints alone?

[stark quiver]

no
its worse than lowcosting some d3

[rigid onyx]

where do people reccomend g7e w/o pressure hull

[wary skiff]

cool

[whole crypt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MhvKc4iZsU

[lyric stump]

Btw ss command cat recommend? Are there good pirate cat to use?

[wind hazel]

every drake, but not for sub. sub cat still steel+edelweiss/ the other i forgot the name

teach is good for cv too

[ivory pawn]

Graf's the other purple sub cat.

[lyric stump]

Good?

[stark quiver]

i dont even havea perfect cat

[wind hazel]

graf zeppelin's cousin

[rigid onyx]

purple cats really like lvl3 iirc

[lyric stump]

Wym

[rigid onyx]

in opsi lvl3 edel gives more oxy

for the staff skill

[whole crypt]

that's like maybe relevant for harb but that's about it

[rigid onyx]

thats like 50% of useful sub content

[forest palm]

actually using subs

[whole crypt]

the point being "maybe relevant"

it's 0.5s and also implies you have to regear your subs between OS and not OS

[forest palm]

it's all a headache in the end with purple cats though

[whole crypt]

personally I'd just ignore the oxy for using in OS it's just a thing they made because hunt range doesn't exist in OS

[rain bobcat]

os update 2026 trust

[forest palm]

OS could use a major content update, it's been out for damn near 6 years at this point and has all but stagnated. Meta Showdown doesn't count for much

[tight yarrow]

They will finally delete the gamemode

[rain bobcat]

instead they pushed forward with 3 non mandatory no reward modes

instead of making something better with opsi

[forest palm]

Manjuu is pushing all the 3D stuff in service of testing for Promillia, which I don't have much beef with it, but I do wish they'd put an actual carrot on the stick

[rain bobcat]

did manjuu not make crosswave?

[viscid swift]

That was done by the Neptunia devs I believe

[forest palm]

pretty sure they licensed the IP out to Idea Factory

[sweet delta]

They have the same armor mods though so idk what he means besides boss movement, and that would be boss dependent not armor dependent

[whole crypt]

# also says 404+2Us with G7eK for light, I'm not sure what's the math behind it

might be involving 101 and 81's bonuses shrug

personally I'm crafting them because it's supposedly a sizable improvement over bidders

[signal leaf]

guys why cant i do the eps-2-B for the note through the firmament?

[sweet delta]

I think they're coping 81 flood, on her augment release CN said 81 is up there with fishpack as a solo sub against light. But I tested and she was nowhere close.

[viscid swift]

the what

[signal leaf]

oh nvm it was a bug lol

[uneven barn]

For ch 14, can I use cowpens as my primary healer (instead of unicorn) in my mob fleet?

[forest palm]

no

[uneven barn]

Wow that's quick

[forest palm]

Unicorn is just the best healer for the content, and Cowpens isn't really a main healer

[uneven barn]

so if I wanna use cowpens for ch14 mob fleet, can I go with mushahi, unicorn, cowpens?

[rain bobcat]

you wanna use cowpens solo if you are using smth like eldridge on vg and are using a speed clear comp

otherwise you will just slowly wither and die without unicorn

[whole crypt]

maybe I'll go back to the vid later to see if I can catch some details I only skimmed through, but working now

[uneven barn]

Oh okay so a fast VG can give my unicorn a little rest? unicorn is my shorekeeper of Azur Lane but not a wife

[forest palm]

[clear harbor]

If I buy a PR blueprint from the guild store for a ship I already have at dev 30, can I convert it to proto cores (not sure if that's the right name for the currency). And is that a worth while exchange?

[forest palm]

if you're trying to clear 14+ do not try to speed clear

[clear harbor]

I don't really spend my guild coins on much.

[rigid onyx]

i was testing cowpens raff w/o uni in w15 with 3 dd vanguard but all the good dds are too good so it wasnt really valuable

[clear harbor]

Wait, can i still conver those BP if I haven't finished Fate Simulation?

[forest palm]

what was suggested is more so for ops than other content

[whole crypt]

only needs d30

[peak moat]

independence augment worth it?

[lucid berry]

Hello gng, im wondering if i should start a new account again as i will use my previous one (its been there for 1 year and ive never progressed). Im thinking that this game has a limited beginner event or something

[ivory pawn]

If you're using her, very.

[peak moat]

you get a returning player event to help catch up

[ivory pawn]

It does not, feel free to just use your old account.

[crisp estuary]

Essex has a retrofit? Damn. Is it any good or do I just not bother?

[ivory pawn]

If you didn't know, you probably don't have the required item that was only available for a limited time. Therefore, don't bother.

[whole crypt]

even if you have the item she's not meta-defining, if you can spare the cost go ahead but otherwise it's a waste of resources

it's complicated by the fact that her kit is supposedly directed towards heavy when the current USS comp meta is light

still makes hell of a good carrier for late campaign I guess

[crisp estuary]

Aight, I can max limit break one to full. Who?

[whole crypt]

who else do you have

[crisp estuary]

Everything before Lion (?)

[whole crypt]

in that case Rumey would probably have a better chance of going into a meta fleet

[crisp estuary]

No Lion, Trafalgar, the DRs for season 8, Hakuhou

[whole crypt]

just finish up Nakhimov and you have one of the best bossing fleets in the game now

[crisp estuary]

Dev 29. It's a month stretch probably

[whole crypt]

it's just 60 prints from scratch if you're done with the rest of PR7 you should finish her in like 2 weeks tops with focus

though seeing I can't find Napoli on that list it might be slightly less straightforward

[shadow yarrow]

What do the happy d projectiles scale off

[cobalt gate]

How good is william d porter cross fleet anyway compared to shima i guess

[onyx flame]

trp most likely
https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/barrages/id/151930

[runic gorge]

If I want to make nakhimov launch before fritz rumey (both using La-9s), would it be worth it to give nakhi the ryuusei kai and homing beacon or should I give nakhi the saiun instead?

[stark quiver]

why do u wanna make nakh launch b4 rumey
and what fight is it for

no beacon required

[runic gorge]

For yorktown meta. I was wondering if the ryuusei kai gives so much more damage that it lets me get away with homing beacon and that instead of saiun and steam cata

[shadow yarrow]

Rainbow torps it is ig

[stark quiver]

youre fine with saiun

[runic gorge]

I was also under the impression that nakhi generally wants to launch before fritz? Or does it not matter?

[stark quiver]

kinda
you should be fine as long as they are close to each other
and york meta is at most 3-4 strikes so youre fine

[runic gorge]

Can't get 4 strikes to work with laffii so I went with 3 strikes to generally better results, don't know of a summoner (besides kurumi) that works with 4 strike timing. Thanks for the help, though

[keen flower]

she good? got from daily light build

[copper turtle]

I haven't played this in a long time, and honestly need help sorting out 2-3 teams for the campaign, I'm currently at chapter 10 if that helps.
Who do I build?
who pairs well together and why??
should I combine the two Lexington II's?

[whole crypt]

dupes should always be used for LB first
right now run the event first and get what you can out of it, there's just short of 1 week left

also don't spread out your LBs, especially for rainbows

I would just MLB Amagi CV first given that you have a bulin and a dupe sitting there

[copper turtle]

okay thank you

[whole crypt]

given what you have now consolidate into 1 fleet of Colorado/AmagiCV/Unicorn/Chikuma/Helena/Sandy

[wanton dawn]

how many HVARs can u get realistically in the 3 week event..?

[whole crypt]

that depends heavily on your activity and how much oil you can spend/how low cost you can work with

for the average player it's probably in the 1 to 2-ish range, but 5 is possible for heavy grinders

[wanton dawn]

icic, thank you 🙏

[whole crypt]

how many did you bother with alpha

[stark quiver]

i farmed only 1 to get 6 total

[desert trellis]

anyone has already beaten this months boss (challenge mode) hard mode

[whole crypt]

yes 2 years ago and yesterday

[desert trellis]

how can i beat the hard mode

[whole crypt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHrPXPdKmJ0

[desert trellis]

thx

[trim depot]

Should I use West Virginia or Nelson

[desert trellis]

what if i dun hav tempsta subs

[cobalt robin]

we can only get 2 admirality tables max?

what abt the oldies who already had it? can they get 2 additional tables?

damn 😔

[whole crypt]

shouldn't seriously matter, will maybe take another minute or so longer but if your comp is decent otherwise your clear times should be below 7min anyway

[fleet marten]

How screwed is my Account if I have no Laffey 2, Trafalgar and I404? Good thing Guam Rerun is incoming

[desert trellis]

aeeee thx for the link mate i built a similar fleet nd got the job done

basically got implac, lion nd fritz for the main nd Plymouth, Eldridge nd helena for the vanguard

[onyx flame]

i mean laff2 is rerunning with guam in like 2 week no 404 isnt that much of an issue, idk how much no traf is thou

[cobalt robin]

not screwed really since i404 is not necessary at all, wolfpack is be fine for everything, guam and laff2 are coming soon, eldridge retro item should rerun again (or get archived)

[rapid shard]

Anyone have the link to suchis dps sheet? Trying to check Meck at Dev25 compared to some other BBs I got

[fleet marten]

Well I have Eldridge so its no problem,

Just having no Trafalgar might have my account bricked

I wonder if Aurora is a good alternative

[cobalt robin]

oh yea read eldridge in the message below

[onyx flame]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wvigE4P1-2XUt3tnGuXKPeD-WiDtOxbm9GEkSeTO9mY/edit?gid=885015773#gid=885015773

[rapid shard]

Thanks

[cobalt robin]

i also dont have traf and im doing perfectly fine

[onyx flame]

ngl if not having traf bricks your account you got bigger issue

[cobalt robin]

youre missing a very good vanguard but i wouldnt call your acc bricked

[verbal plinth]

everyone before 2025 was bricked

[onyx flame]

~~me fr came back after lion ran ~~

[late flame]

-# everything can be fixed with time tbh or at least until eos

[cobalt robin]

good thing i came back during lion

[late flame]

-# just quit again until lion rerun ez

[cobalt robin]

and with it you can get traf too

[trim depot]

should I use Nelson instead of West Virginia if I’m only using 1 dd

[fleet marten]

Just asking really, I got almost updated URs except the DRs, other than that I am fine

Since I got Lion but not Traf

[onyx flame]

lion is the bigger prize really

[cobalt robin]

*biggest

[keen flower]

i bought the 5 $ pack, its been 10 min
when i reset game and click it, it said purchase complete but not activated
google play has confirmed the purchase

[inner delta]

try close and open again if it doesnt work try contact customer service

[cobalt robin]

if its not in mail even after purchasing then yea contact support

[copper turtle]

What makes a good mob and boss fleet respectively, like the class of ships

[cobalt robin]

its not about the hull types but the actual ships themselves

[keen flower]

welp, its not there
how do i contant customer service

[inner delta]

email them

[keen flower]

use this one or just use gmail

[cobalt robin]

you can contact them via in game settings in the help tab

[inner delta]

you can use that one

[keen flower]

imma use the ingame one

[verbal plinth]

they are on holiday till monday btw

but safe to leave a one

[red sapphire]

Hi, should I craft the UR DD gun for Eldridge and/or the upcomming laffey II rerun?

[cobalt robin]

also were you charged already?

[keen flower]

yes, google playstore says the purchase is succesful

[cobalt robin]

the ur dd gun is not a priority

[rapid summit]

What are the next UR’S to be added permanently in the next couple months?

[onyx flame]

implac, zwei

[rapid summit]

Good I need them both
Well not Zwei but I want another Zwei

[red sapphire]

I see. This is the UR stuff I have for now. Tenrai use ordinance testing reports and not design plans, and I plan to craft it as soon as I get 6.

May be second MK7 over the DD gun?

[cobalt robin]

i dont see any wyverns so get that

ill act like i didnt see the rainbow quint

[onyx flame]

406mk7 before a wyvern

[red sapphire]

I've got 9 torp UR design plans from drops

[cobalt robin]

thats fine then

mk7 from event?

oh yea nj i forgor

[red sapphire]

I'm using bagette until get them.

[red sapphire]

Crafted

[onyx flame]

im the reverse, i got 2 wyverns before i even bought a bagette

[cobalt robin]

same

[red sapphire]

I can explain. I wanted to get an upgrade for the BB fleet as iirc next best option for light was a purple

[rapid summit]

Why wyvern over other UR guns that also are priority?

[cobalt robin]

youre getting most of the value when you can +13 3 mk7s or 2 mk7 plus lion gun

[onyx flame]

the improvement for mk7 over the mk6 when the mk7 isnt +13 isnt that worth iirc

[cobalt robin]

from berracuda to wyvern its a huge upgrade unlike the ur guns

[whole crypt]

wyverns are already a good step over barracudas at +10
Mk7 need +11 onwards to be significantly better than Mk6
the cost of getting the weapon significantly better than the next in line is quite different

[cobalt robin]

they are an upgrade too but wyverns in campaign are just that much better

[rapid summit]

Oh there isn’t any other Ur guns like wyvern dam

[red sapphire]

How much wyvern do I want to have on the very endgame?

[cobalt robin]

also i would get the uss ur aa gun before more mk7, ur dd gun etc etc

[whole crypt]

as many as you will be lazy to swap but 2-3 sounds like a good number to aim for first

[cobalt robin]

preferably for all of your campaign cvs but a mix of wyverns and baguettes is fine too

[stark quiver]

I run full wyvern and spearfishes

[cobalt robin]

well wyvern is a tb not a gun

[onyx flame]

~~not me making the mk7 before the aa/dd ~~

[rapid summit]

Oh mb

[stark quiver]

I am new-ish
But I have 4 wyvern and 2 spearfish’s
Which is enough to fill two campaign fleets

[cobalt robin]

[rapid summit]

Anything I should change on enty gear?

[cobalt robin]

frontier medal is questionable

[whole crypt]

Wyvern instead of Barracuda if it's just for whatever
if you're fighting specific bosses then there's shit like rocket fights, Skyraider and converging TBs

Frontier Medal is fine, it's pretty much just a catapult replacement

[rapid summit]

Ohhh I thought it was good for CV

[cobalt robin]

~~less bb dmg tho 😔 ~~

[onyx flame]

lose some hp over steam cata but whatever

[whole crypt]

only in PvP

[rapid summit]

Thats the most important thing i want to aim for on enty

[whole crypt]

in practice outside of PvP Frontier Medal is just catapult without the HP

[cobalt robin]

wait what

[whole crypt]

have you ever actually read the skill effect

[stark quiver]

Exercises = PvP

[wind hazel]

do you guys not read the item lol

[onyx flame]

classic en

[verbal plinth]

read?

[wind hazel]

read deez

[stark quiver]

Even then nobody uses it in PvP lmfao

[rapid summit]

I’m more focused on how good frontier medal is for pve not PvP

[cobalt robin]

[stark quiver]

It’s good

[whole crypt]

yeh you lose... 18 HP, totally unplayable

[stark quiver]

Terrible game design

[late flame]

rainbow cata when

[cobalt robin]

i forgor pvp is called exercise

[rapid summit]

Oh…flagship right

[inner delta]

when people stop asking, the dev is watching

[verbal plinth]

false there are no devs

[late flame]

false devs only listen to CN

[cobalt robin]

ill just stick to catas

[rapid summit]

The poor frontier medal at the bottom wishing to be upgraded

[stark quiver]

More +13 catas than me

[cobalt robin]

thats crazy

i was planning to +13 2 more lol

[cobalt robin]

bro aint getting my precious plates

[onyx flame]

i was gonna say where even was frontier from then i check my collection and realise i still dont got houshou

[rapid summit]

Cmon bruh I’m starving with general plates you know you want to

[cobalt robin]

i was starving too but event gave me a good amount

had like 200

[stark quiver]

Same

[cobalt robin]

fake

[rapid summit]

Yeah yeah me to bro

[cobalt robin]

i was there too dw

[rapid shard]

Least im not the only one that never gets above 200 plates im just to lazy to swap gear so I upgrade new set for new ships

[rapid summit]

It’s a hazard over here

[cobalt robin]

me too but for the first time i plenty of plates

[cobalt robin]

fuckass torp plates

[rapid shard]

I got up over 1.5k for about 10mins

[rapid summit]

You know you want the torp plates

[cobalt robin]

cant even use mine 😔

[tight yarrow]

Time to craft the UR g7e

[cobalt robin]

i need 2 more ur torp plans

[rapid summit]

My UR plates…And materials are coming along

[cobalt robin]

not gonna use general plans tho

[rapid shard]

Toolboxs and catapults eat all my plates lol

[late flame]

lowkey becoming #trophy-room ver2.0 here

[cobalt robin]

we have a channel for that?

[rapid shard]

just flexing different levels of being poor

[rapid summit]

Gameplay help and general is all channels

[rapid shard]

Back to standard gph convo tho, finally 1 print off first meck gun. How much of a increase in dmg is a +13 meck gun compared to +13 champ?

Im maxing out my dmg with NJ with a 1
+13 champ gold tower and white shell due to my tech levels atm (consistent 280-300k on yorkM fight) so kinda curious on how big of a increase it will be

[sand flume]

who should i build next guys?

[rapid shard]

How many bulins can you buy?

Lion 110%

[onyx flame]

lion

[tight yarrow]

No core for the admiral gaming table?

[rapid shard]

Lion z52 and traf should be your next ones for MLB

[sand flume]

4

[rapid shard]

Ill have one in about 3ish days. I had just bought independence 2 days before they announced it being added lol

[cobalt robin]

5% on med and 15% on heavy iirc

but i think that was for +10 both not sure

[tight yarrow]

+10 table have higher stat than +13 control tower, so you kinda cooked

[rapid summit]

Which event is traf In and when is her rerun/perm added?

[rapid shard]

Eh we can only get 2 rainbow tables so gold tower still gonna get plenty of use for sure.

[onyx flame]

lion event 2027 should be her rerun

should be the 3rd one for 2027 iirc

[whole crypt]

maffs

[rapid summit]

Ohhhh she’s in there with my goat lion that I also need right right

[rapid shard]

Lion then traf/z52. Id check back when you can get 4 more. Things may change by then

[whole crypt]

535 vs 495 base, meck is slightly higher heavy mod champagne is slightly higher medium mod, then there's also FP and timing

[sand flume]

ookay tks so much

[rigid onyx]

should be about 4.3% more shelling damage per salvo

compared to champy

[rapid shard]

Meck is slightly faster than champ and flandre right? Right now running a triple BB for meta fight with Sashi NJ Warkai. Daisen Champ and Flandre in that order. Sashi fires first then Kai then NJ. I get full 4 salvos

Planning on throwing meck gun on NJ. I will be trying out Dev25 meck once I get her leveled and seeing how she does compared to warkai tho.

[whole crypt]

if you're comparing medium damage then it comes to around 4% yes

[rigid onyx]

oh why did i assume medium

[whole crypt]

heavy is like 12.6%

[rapid shard]

Is that counting the +13 bonus or just at +10?

[rigid onyx]

+13 bonus usually doesnt change relative damage

by usually i cant think of why it would more than just rounding errors

[rapid shard]

I thought the level3 dmg modifier had a larger impact. Hopefully throwing that and rainbow table in will help me get consistently over a mil

[rapid summit]

What the command for seeing the gear to get to 13+ priority

[whole crypt]

it's all around 4/6/8%

[rapid shard]

/ plus 13
Is the command. Remove spaces lol

[rapid summit]

Ty

[whole crypt]

the thing is because for guns it's applied through coefficient there's going to be a bit of rounding errors

[summer patio]

Is this worth it? Or does it unlock overtime? Also, I keep getting golden equipment from the Research Academy projects, but it never shows up in my gear depot, why?

[rigid onyx]

the +13 is the biggest jump in the 11 12 13 series, but overall +10 --> +13 for bb guns just increases the coefficient by 17.5-18.5%

[whole crypt]

it's straightforward if the guns in question had a 100% coeff, but neither champagne gun nor meck gun has 100%

[rigid onyx]

e.g. meck gun goes from 1.25 --> 1.48, champy gun goes from 1.1 --> 1.3

[rapid summit]

Is mecky gun the best BB gun in heavy armour and light armour?

[rapid shard]

Heavy/med

[strange sphinx]

man, I didn't know they put the rainbow table in shop

[rapid summit]

Does it do decent in light?

[whole crypt]

overall it increases the damage by 18%, the way the 18% is applied is through increasing the coefficient
the amount of increase scales up a bit with higher base coefficients which is why it ends up being more than 18%

but the actual increase in the coefficient itself can be a bit higher than 18

[rapid shard]

Well just doing quick math in my head should be a at least noticeable increase that should get NJ consistently 320k to possibly 340k. Before getting rainbow table that is

[whole crypt]

none of the AP guns are decent against light

[tawdry halo]

Hi, do these make good fighters comparing to golden F6F Hellcats?

[rigid onyx]

multiplicatively increase

[whole crypt]

yeh that

[rapid summit]

Oh aight then

[rapid shard]

Never use AP against light armor. Use triple 406 mk6 as default gun, eventually upgrade to rainbow mk7 only if you can +13 it or the lion gun for light bosses

[rigid onyx]

these are rocket fighters for non campaign bossing, f6f hellcats non hvar type are campaign fihgters

[tawdry halo]

so they are usable, got it

[rigid onyx]

different uses

dont use rocket fighters in like w13 for example

[onyx flame]

as an f2p, you should be getting the 3rd slot in the dorm followed by the 2nd floor which mirrors your first floor in slots granting you 6 slots in total to use for morale regen letting you grind more
the gold equips you get from research academy are blueprints, you need a certain amount before you can make one typically 25 prints = 1 gear for gold

[tawdry halo]

I've never planned to go as far into w13

[rapid summit]

I’m planning to use the mk7 for my main gun and switch the mecky gun to mecky when shes dev 30 but I don’t have anything of lion…

[whole crypt]

to be fair with a stacked BB fleet you can use AP guns and still kill light armour abyssals

[tawdry halo]

I dont really see any profits for w13 aside from extra gems

[rigid onyx]

big if true

[rapid shard]

Lion gun is the rainbow 406 mk2 i think. I cant remember all the different mk#s off top of head

[summer patio]

Thank you a lot!n

[rapid summit]

I don’t think I’m missing too much from her gun anyway (I hope)

[summer patio]

ALSO GUYS SO YOU WON'T GUESS WHAT HAPPENED AFTER I RANDOMLY PULLED 17 TIMES

[rapid summit]

You got lexII?

[rapid yoke]

[rapid shard]

Its is the best light armor BB gun lol but mk7 will do just fine

[whole crypt]

13+ is more of a "something you'll do eventually"
most grinding will be done in 12

[red sapphire]

Lion gun is the best for light iirc

[summer patio]

Gambling

[tawdry halo]

Yea it is

[onyx flame]

#trophy-room

[rigid onyx]

~~lion gun is basically the same per salvo as nj gun ~~

[summer patio]

OHHHH I'N SO SORRYYYY

[rigid onyx]

be happy u got ur hot png

animated png

[whole crypt]

why is mine a jpg

[tawdry halo]

Also is Unzen a bosser or a mobber chat

[rigid onyx]

unzen does damage

[rapid summit]

Yeah I’m gonna get that anyway

[whole crypt]

she's a DPSer that can do both boss and mobs

[rapid summit]

Aight

[tawdry halo]

How replacable is she for tanking comparing to Portland

[rigid onyx]

what limit break

[rapid shard]

Dont rush for it tho, the difference between the +10 mk6 and +10 mk7 is super small. You only get real value when you +13 the mk7 and thats 360 gold gun plates

[tawdry halo]

Max

And assume that Unzen is lv125 for this comparison

I ran out of books

[rigid onyx]

she's technically slightly better but when you can 125 and mlb urs you really should have better

[rapid shard]

why does Portland have that gun

[onyx flame]

booking to 125 wat

[whole crypt]

their eHP is similar if both using a standard rudder+toolkit but you rarely use Unzen to tank

[tawdry halo]

I dont even know what gun is good for her to begin with

[rapid shard]

rainbow on portland Unzen would be much better off with that gun than portland lol

[whole crypt]

in a situation where Unzen's DPS is relevant you generally would want to make sure she stays alive, and the vanguard pressure is over what Portland/Unzen can handle

[rapid summit]

That’s great I have 91…

[tawdry halo]

This is my situation, kinda not so good, although I am raising Anchorage to replace Portland soon

[whole crypt]

it really depends on what you're doing but you should be basically steamrolling ch12

[tawdry halo]

I'm just keeping 4 fleets for coalition mode events and OpSi

[red sapphire]

Shinano+Hakuhou+Implacable does very good as CV fleet for bossing

[sweet delta]

You can use normal fleets for neither coalition nor opsi so idk

[whole crypt]

coalition mode events don't come very often and you can use less ships per fleet
OS also doesn't need 4 proper fleets
not sure if you're still actively leveling stuff in ch12

[rigid onyx]

wtf is coalition mode

[tawdry halo]

Hang on are you fine with seeing the gears, they might not match the timing

[whole crypt]

the shitty event type that makes you use multiple fleets 1 for each fight

[onyx flame]

4 battles that use 4 different fleet dal collab had it

[rigid onyx]

idr using 4 fleets for dal

[red sapphire]

Sure, you may use the calculator, can help too

[rigid onyx]

im just schizophrenic ig

[tawdry halo]

And yes I'm still not the type of player to have my inventory filled with lab gears yet sooo I'm kinda cooked(?)

[rapid summit]

Btw what’s the mk6 gun that you’re talking about look like? I might use that as a replacement for now

[onyx flame]

also please level ships in chp 12 dont book em to 125

[rigid onyx]

purple
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_406mm_(16"/45_Mk_6)#tabber-tabpanel-Type_3-0

[red sapphire]

First of all, do you have Hakuhou's event shop airplane?

[tawdry halo]

What stage in chap 12 for exp effi again

[rigid onyx]

12-1 or 12-4

since you're new try for 12-4 since its more coins

[tawdry halo]

wait what aircraft was it again

I may or may not have it equipped somewhere

[red sapphire]

Slot 3 here

[rapid summit]

Yeah I have that but only a 10+ version

[rigid onyx]

+10 purple mk6 is almost as good as +10 rainbow mk7

[tawdry halo]

Oh yea I equipped it on Enty

[rigid onyx]

i think its 8% worse iirc?

[rapid summit]

Should I get rid of the mecky gun for that?

[whole crypt]

you don't have to use coalition mode, at least for DAL there wasn't anything locked behind it

but shit like frostfall had some missions and rewards that needed to be done in coalition mode

[red sapphire]

You can copy my setup using Tenrai (you have on shinano). That would be best for heavy and general use

[tawdry halo]

I mean I dont really have much worry about book shortage, my academy is max level and that I usually fill the bar up everyday

[rigid onyx]

meck gun is substantially worse vs light than a purple mk6

[onyx flame]

main point of the books is to bring ships up to a level where you can grind with em really esp if you plan to use em you want to increase their affinity anyway

[atomic vortex]

I've ran over 5 3x runs if the final stage on event in hard and haven't seen a single HVAR bp

[tawdry halo]

I'm currently saving book to raise Anchorage

[atomic vortex]

How abysmally dogshit is the drop rate

[verbal plinth]

thats why we dont recommend grinding prints

[rapid summit]

Well that’s fine then

[tawdry halo]

I think the only thing I lack rn is the ring for skin projection

[whole crypt]

meanwhile me praying I don't get more HVAR prints from the next week of SPs

[tawdry halo]

I'm like sitting in the transition phase between a new player and an average one idk

[whole crypt]

the thing you lack is giving her levels so you can actually finish developing her

skin projection is just gravy for skin display anyway

[rapid shard]

Use first floor dorm to passive level up to 75-80 then throw them in w12 grinding fleet. Or use books to same level mark

[onyx flame]

skin projection is like near useless, there no reason to give a ring for it

[whole crypt]

more like if you gave her a ring and she has an oath skin then great you get an extra projection copy to display it

[tawdry halo]

I mean...

[onyx flame]

like the free 3 skins projection you get is more than enough if you really want to use it since there like only 1 or 2 shipyard skin with more than 3 skins

[rapid shard]

You can get away with lower depending on gear but im currently running this fleet with 12-1 and it has zero issues on safe

[rapid summit]

Is there an image dedicated to farming DR bp? Because I still need another Like 150 mecky bp

[whole crypt]

120+ you should be actively grinding, dorm will take ages after lv100

[tawdry halo]

I mean I am dorming and actively grinding

[whole crypt]

like the only reason ships are in dorm at that point is for the morale regen while you grind

[rapid shard]

He only has 3 slots and second floor so needs them all for morale

[whole crypt]

not sure who's on 2/F but could probably cycle lower level ships into 1/F
or just use packs on Anchorage

[tawdry halo]

the fact you would remember me having second dorm floor is crazy

[rapid shard]

I can see the tab in your screenshot lol

[whole crypt]

I can tell you have a 2/F from that screenshot but sure

[rapid shard]

If you dont have second floor that "rest" tab isnt shown like that

[tawdry halo]

[whole crypt]

I'm just throwing ships into 1/F so I can spend food

[tawdry halo]

The ones that are in my event farming mob fleet

[rapid shard]

Im not saying you should spend money but if you do one of the best QoL upgrades outside of dock space is more dorm slots. You can have mob fleet in top floor while having 1st floor just dedicated to passive leveling your next ships you plan to grind up.

[whole crypt]

consider cycling in lower level ships for the event grind

[tawdry halo]

I only spend gems on dockspace sadly

[rapid shard]

at least you aint buying skins with those gems then complaining about 0 dock space

[whole crypt]

at the very least Shinano is wasting XP

[onyx flame]

They chew through food hella quick with 6 slots

[tribal belfry]

yo friends is reroll recommended if i start this game

[verbal plinth]

not really

[tawdry halo]

although my current investment is... quite troubling me out ngl

[onyx flame]

Not really pulls arent front loaded

[rapid shard]

No, this game isnt front loaded like other gachas. Rewards are way to spread out

[tribal belfry]

ah i see

[tawdry halo]

I may need a fix on my 4 fleets soon

[rapid shard]

Eh thats not that bad at all tbh. You've invested in solid shops and can make 2-3 pretty good fleets to clear basically everything

[tribal belfry]

what banners shud i pull on currently

[onyx flame]

Just comprees it to 2 or 3 tbh that more than enough

[tawdry halo]

I mean I've been buying every event shop gears since Implacable reroll (around the time I started playing)

[onyx flame]

Ur event when there is one, if there no event 1 light pull a day
Sr events is up to you tbh

[tribal belfry]

is ur event on right now?

[rapid shard]

Just follow suchis gear guide and setup a CV and BB boss fleet for opsi. One mob fleet and shove crossfleets in 4th and you should be able to clear everything without much trouble long as gear isnt abysmal

[tawdry halo]

The only non-UR event that I have wasted my cubes on was the sail ships banner

Aside from that, I always do "UR-invest" only and daily 1 light ship build

[eternal pine]

hi so like how's the gacha system in this game for a new player? do you get alot of pulls in this game or no?

[whole crypt]

I'll just like to reiterate this is wasting XP and pretty much you want every bit to count

[whole crypt]

not for a new player

[onyx flame]

You get a lot its enough to secure every ur for the year if your smart about how you pukl
New players will struggle at the start

[onyx flame]

If your still confused its cause of morale

[tawdry halo]

I'll create a thread on the gears of my 4 fleets, so that people can help me fix my fleets

[rapid shard]

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide/

Use this lol

[whole crypt]

overall the general sentiment is that our rates are fairly generous
however outside of rainbow banners there's no pity
there's no starter booster pulls or some shit but if you play consistently we get enough resources for pulling if you don't waste them

[rapid shard]

For gear that is. Make a thread and smarter people than me can cook up some good fleets

[whole crypt]

if a lv125 ship has orange morale my conclusion is the player has been using a maxed XP ship to grind

event stages don't even need lv120 ships to get past, it's actually great for slotting in lower level ships

[rain bobcat]

me who did lexi 1:1 on d3 from lvl 80 to 125

stages before ch14 really aren't hard to require max ships to farm

[tawdry halo]

#1365706033275863091

has been a long time since I last use this thread

finally got a reason to reuse it

[eternal pine]

hi when do enemy submarines start appearing?

[hollow gust]

W14 is when it actually matters

[eternal pine]

thanks king

[rain bobcat]

i mean on this event, you would technically die if you didn't have DD/CL while leveling

[summer patio]

I'm gonna guess Lexington II is busted and I should replace Cowpens (in my main fleet of Cowpens - Pennsylvania - Unicorn) with Lexington II once I limit break her?

[hollow gust]

Stick with Cowpen

Use Lexy when you build fleet 2

[summer patio]

Fleet 2 as a boss fleet? That's what people usually refer to

[sand flume]

should i build cowpens & aquila for w14 or perseus & unicorn is enough?

[tawdry halo]

if I recall so far, Lexington 2 isnt that busted comparing to other UR CVs in stats (?)

feel free to correct me if I'm wrong though

[summer patio]

I don't know man

[tulip tinsel]

she's best against light armor which is not really relevant in game right now as there are not many light bosses

[tawdry halo]

yea I think I'm right to an extend

[tulip tinsel]

but that doesn't mean she's bad

[hollow gust]

Lexy drives the Soviets into the dirt for light and competes with them in medium

[sweet delta]

What's the win rate of Lexii against Yorktown meta?

[onyx flame]

Perseus is a main healer so if you alr got uni you dont really need her, for secondary healer cowpens is better but aquila is almost as good only if with musashi iirc

[hollow gust]

Last time I checked it was pretty bad , in comparison to the bis

[sweet delta]

So Lexii is competitive with Soviets against medium like Vanguard is competitive with Lion

[whole crypt]

LexII's bonuses are light specific so I'm honestly not surprised if she falls behind

[zenith heron]

Her skills prefer to be best against Light Armored Enemies, which is specifically suited for Boss Fights and her Flex slots

She can be used in Mob but there are better ships for that

[tribal belfry]

guys how cna i swap my accounts if i wanna enter with a different accoutn it logs me in into my old one

[zenith heron]

Vanguard?

[whole crypt]

i.e. it's not a real competition

[onyx flame]

click on this to log into a different account

[rain bobcat]

didn't vanguard get built over lion irl

smh smh if only vanguard released in 2025

[gilded carbon]

Why does it count as important Gear? I was clearing out some blue and purple-gear and saw that i cant deconstruct those

[onyx flame]

cause you can only get them from certaain ships

[rain bobcat]

because they're rare

[gilded carbon]

Its just a Seaplane? Can i safely get rid of them? I have better now, dont think i ever used them

[onyx flame]

they are important in the sense that once you dispose of em you can only get em again if you get the ships that carry them by default

[gilded carbon]

I will ask the Wiki wich Ships carry them later.

[rain bobcat]

chen hai and hwa jah

[gilded carbon]

But i can delete them safely? Well, 10 out of the 12 i have

[late flame]

yes

[gilded carbon]

Noted. Thanks

[whole crypt]

they're bad
there's a purple version somewhere which is also bad
you could just leave it on the the Chinese seaplane tenders if you're looking for depot space and aren't using the ships, otherwise they're safe to scrap at this point

[late flame]

+once retrofitted neither hwah jah nor chen hai would use them

[gilded carbon]

I have golden Seaplanes. And, arent they capable of using actual Planes after Retro anyway

[whole crypt]

yep

[gilded carbon]

Thank you all. I will keep maybe 1 for... Memorative purpose or so.

[tribal belfry]

how do i clear game data guys so i cna log into another acc???

[whole crypt]

no idea, probably no one around now with experience on the matter, try #tech-support

[eternal basalt]

Select a different server

[dim tundra]

any tips to make my NJ stronger? I'm commander lvl 36

oh, accidental mention, mb

[onyx flame]

use a better gun and better aux but tbh you shouldnt even be using her shes at 0lb

[whole crypt]

LBing her and not giving her bad gear would be a start

[onyx flame]

not that you should be giving her perma bulins since there are better choices in perma pity too

[dim tundra]

thanks

[eternal basalt]

Hopefully ticket

[dim tundra]

👍

[forest palm]

could be worse, could be investing in Warspite retro

[dim tundra]

I can't limit break my URs yet

[wind hazel]

dont use her then

[dim tundra]

got it

[onyx flame]

anyway gear wise you can check this https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide/
but tldr is 406mk6 for main gun, for aux gold white shell from core data if you can get it if not purple white shell from ijn boxes if you got it and purple fire control radar or hsfcr/blackshell

[dim tundra]

btw do lvls matter when there's like a small lvl gap

[whole crypt]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Damage_Calculations#Level_Advantage

[dim tundra]

I mean ship levels

[eternal basalt]

That IS ship levels

[dim tundra]

oh

[rapid tusk]

Just maxed Unicorn's healing skill to 10. Nearly have Albion's to 10. Who should I focus on next?

[wind hazel]

ships you're using

except portland, if you are using her. hers can be skipped

[rapid tusk]

Who would you recommend next?

[wind hazel]

penny helena laffey

[rapid tusk]

Helena's red skill?

[wind hazel]

her all out assault cannot be upgraded

level her radar scan

[rapid tusk]

Ah okay thanks

[meager path]

i wanted to unlock roon but i have one more iron blood ship needed who is iron blood here?

[hollow gust]

bismarck and graf zeppellin

if you see a edgy red black uniform its gonna be german

[meager path]

no wonder friedrich last name sounded german

[hollow gust]

most unsipired ass faction ever

[woven star]

if picking IB ship so better choose G.Zeppeling at least she from special pull. But they both not worth to pick imo

[sweet delta]

Wait til he finds out neither bis nor zep will unlock roon

[whole crypt]

doesn't roon need like 7 or 10 KMS vangaurds

[woven star]

ah yeah... 7 vaguard IB

[tawdry halo]

Roon needs vanguard ships, the 2 IB ships in this list are main fleet's

[whole crypt]

you're pretty much just waiting for any of the Zs, K-class and Deutschlands

[tawdry halo]

I am waiting for Z52 rerun

or did it already pass before Implacable rerun

[whole crypt]

that's probably happening in about a year
that aside unlocking Roon is just any 7 vanguards which you'll eventually luck into from map drops and daily lights

[woven star]

Divergent Chessboard WA and have fun

[tawdry halo]

oh so 52 still have rerun

... wait, a year?

[whole crypt]

for Roon specifically you don't even need WA

[verbal plinth]

keep a look out in merit shop sometimes z ships show up

[whole crypt]

Substellar was X'mas 2024 so basically it'll be taking the slot that Guam's rerun is taking now, in a year's time

[tawdry halo]

I have Roon researched

and she's just dusting my port now because I'm already aiming to invest into Brest (I also got Anchorage researched already)

[verbal plinth]

ahhh

[tawdry halo]

I dont even know if Roon would be relevant with my current progress

lemme forward the fleet composition gimme a sec

[rapid shard]

Shes great for grinding xp for Agir lol

[tawdry halo]

oh nvm I thought it would only link the message

lemme try again

too lazy to just post the stuffs from the thread

and it'd count as chat flood too

[tawdry halo]

oh so she still have some slight relevant

... wait is Agir still going to be any relevant?

[woven star]

yeah. and Agir will sit near roon's dusted place too

[verbal plinth]

laffy 2 and guam soon so agir be kinda worthless

[meager path]

how many pull do i need to save to pull on limited?

[tawdry halo]

please dont tell me brest is going to dust soon

[verbal plinth]

brest still has uses with cvs and stuff i think

[rain bobcat]

[verbal plinth]

not 100 sure

[tawdry halo]

you mean UR banner? 400 cubes minimum assuming the worst case scenario where the banner decides you dont have any luck for the UR drop

[rain bobcat]

in no multiverse did brest get used on meta fleet

[tawdry halo]

400 cubes for 200 pulls for guarantee exchange

[meager path]

well 300 more to go then

[tawdry halo]

The event would be over by that time. Save up for guam rerun

unless you are confident that rng will be with you in just 50 pulls (I dont recommend)

[rapid shard]

Agir still hot so ill find ways to use her

[tawdry halo]

100 cube only worth 50 pulls so it's kinda a 25% gamble

[weary gust]

That is not how the odds work out whatsoever.

[meager path]

well ill take that

[tawdry halo]

ehhh...

[rapid shard]

You also get like 45ish free builds for the rerun FYI

[tawdry halo]

still ALT here is a new player

aaaand wasting 100 cubes (which is all he currently have) on Lex 2 banner is not really advisable in my opinion

if he doesnt get lex 2 in 50 pulls, he's cooked

in which Guam rerun is the better choice he could go for (late feb)

[rapid shard]

Current banner is still a limited UR, you still want to try and get her especially as a new player. Theres still time before rerun. Plus lex rerun wont be for 2 years and Guam will go perm in a year after the rerun coming up

[tawdry halo]

if he is active enough in the game he might get just enough 300 cube for guarantee guam pulling

[hollow gust]

Guam isnt even the ship you want from that event

[rapid shard]

Laffey2 is free and the more versatile of the 2

[hollow gust]

flasher and laffey2 exist

[rain bobcat]

theres no case where guam>lexi

[onyx flame]

mid jan actually

[rain bobcat]

idk why ppl have the hots for guam

[rapid shard]

cause shes hot

[tawdry halo]

[rain bobcat]

lexi and willy are actually nice

[onyx flame]

mecha rigging, the coolest rigging

[tawdry halo]

oh wait I mistaken UR event late feb for guam rerun

[hollow gust]

guam is so replacable

[tawdry halo]

me so dumb

[rapid shard]

Late Feb will be a new UR banner

[woven star]

Maybe at once then we'll get UR CL

[tawdry halo]

since ALT is new player, is there any chance that he'd be able to rig the banner into giving him lex 2 in less than 50 pulls

because 50 is the best he can do

[rapid shard]

Thats harder cope than me wanting Agir to be more useful for future fleets

[onyx flame]

fate sim trust

[hollow gust]

there is a another week of lexy event, there are newbie cubes, there are cruise pass cubes

[rapid shard]

Its entirely possible. Average is around 100ish pulls

[woven star]

Hey. Meck exists...for tech at least

[hollow gust]

he can easy grab a significant amount of cubes this week

[tawdry halo]

@meager path ok so try to save up as many cubes as possible, only do 1 light pool pull daily to save cubes

gamble on last day of banner

[rain bobcat]

why pull light just gun it on lexi

[wind hazel]

literally just pull everyday

[rapid shard]

No he should pull event banner.

[hollow gust]

[tawdry halo]

cube save until last day

[wind hazel]

no point saving

[onyx flame]

might as well just pull on the event banner

[hollow gust]

brother you can just pull event?

[wind hazel]

in fact it's probably worse because he'd run out of coin

[rapid shard]

Cube saving is after you get all the banner ships

[hollow gust]

you are literally wasting cubes if you pull on light instead of event

[rain bobcat]

ur wasting 1 cube a day "saving"

[tawdry halo]

no??

wasnt it supposed to give you like 3 finishers and 1 cube in return for the daily mission of 1 pull thing

[hollow gust]

you are still spending the goddam cube in light, you know what triggers the same mission? event banner

[rain bobcat]

you get 4 cubes a day total if you pull once a day

if you pull on light you get +3 cubes or 1.5 pulls a day for banner

if you pull on UR event daily you get 4 cube 2 pulls a day

[wind hazel]

How to pull for dummies, conservatively

Do 3 events build per day.

• You get Lexington II, you do 1 Light per day until the next event banner.
• You don't get Lexington II, and it's the last day of event. You dump every cube and coin you have and pray that you get Lexington II.

Good luck.

[rain bobcat]

forgot the pull on lexi banner once a day part

[wind hazel]

?????

[late flame]

-# alternatively be like me and go for pity on UR banner ezpz

[rain bobcat]

hes broke i dont think he can do 3 event a day

[wind hazel]

how broke are we talking about

[tawdry halo]

100 cubes

[rain bobcat]

unless he hasnt actually spent the 100 hes on 0

[wind hazel]

DO 3 EVENTS BUILD PER DAY

[late flame]

justwhaleforcubes

[tawdry halo]

@meager path stick to this one, ignore my earlier message

[wind hazel]

why is the person in question isn't talking

[tawdry halo]

not sure

[wind hazel]

using 3rd party to relay message is the stupidest thing ever

[late flame]

in before ragequit

[mighty tulip]

I’m done with Retrofitting Uni, and I can’t do C3 due to restrictions, do I just keep grinding C2, and who do I start retrofitting next, Portland or Helena?

[wind hazel]

portland

[mighty tulip]

Thanks 🙏🏽

[tawdry halo]

retro Portland for tank first

level up her skill EXCEPT for the one that supports Indi

[wind hazel]

no, dont level her skill, waste of time

[tawdry halo]

I think her defense skill is still fine

[wind hazel]

literally just retrofit, that's it. no need to touch anything else

it's a waste of skillbook

[mighty tulip]

Should I full level both skills of Uni? I inly have Uni’s healing skill at 10

Lol thanks

[rigid onyx]

cowpens & uni are both skill book priorities rn

cowpens more so

[tawdry halo]

is posting book count considered trophy posting

[wind hazel]

idk you tell me the point of doing that

[rain bobcat]

ur not in the same situation what's the point

[tawdry halo]

if only trading book is available I'd go ahead and dump my defense books to newbies lmao

[hollow gust]

[tawdry halo]

also isnt Lil Anchorage better than Portland overall

I'm going to replace Portland with Anchor in the future

[onyx flame]

[wind hazel]

slightly yes

[tawdry halo]

ok I guess Portland is going to the corner of the port soon

she served long enough 🙏

[wind hazel]

i mean it's kinda pointless replacing portland with lil anchorage

only would make sense if you just started the game and you get to choose between them

shipyard anchorage, now that's a big upgrade

[tawdry halo]

no like I'm replacing Portland with Anchorage for boss tank, then just see if Lil Anchorage will stay as mob tanker or Port would get a chance to be mob tanker

[late flame]

+lack fleettech

[onyx flame]

just use port man, saves you the effort of raising another ship

[late flame]

tbh children ships are the first to go if i do run outta dock space

[tawdry halo]

I'm already lv108

raising better ships is already slowly a thing that I need to do if I want to go any further

[onyx flame]

she's literally 1% more ehp than port and she doesnt even give fleet tech at 120

[tawdry halo]

You mean Ancho or Lil Ancho

[verbal plinth]

lil

[late flame]

obv the latter

[onyx flame]

lil, ancho is like 150% port ehp

[tawdry halo]

I already raised Lil Anchor so yea Portland is definitely going to dust in the corner

[wind hazel]

replacing your coca cola with pepsi

[tawdry halo]

... wait hang on how relevant would a lv125 Port be comparing to lv125 Juno (yes I'm serious with this message)

[wind hazel]

0% relevant

[tawdry halo]

so is port better than juno or opposite

[hollow gust]

juno is basically useless

[tawdry halo]

I am using her as 3rd fleet mob tank

[wind hazel]

you're quite literally the very first person on gph to actually talk about using juno

[tawdry halo]

ok like wouldnt Juno be relevant if she's given good enough UR gears

[hollow gust]

why would you even have a 3rd fleet

[wind hazel]

you're putting flower on a poop

[hollow gust]

thats a pretty bad analogy

[wind hazel]

no matter how pretty it is, it will still be a poop

[hollow gust]

poop makes flowers grow pretty well

[wind hazel]

ok mr gardener

[tawdry halo]

I already built 3rd and 4th fleets

[hollow gust]

you are using juno, i doubt you can make 2 fleets

[late flame]

lol juno

[tawdry halo]

just take a look, I am dead serious 💀

[hollow gust]

spreading out your best ships

[onyx flame]

literally just dissolved your 3rd and 4th fleet and just make 2 good fleet

[rigid onyx]

@slow fox is portland normalized against herself for each of the columns' content for ehp? Like is each column in units of portland in {w14/15, challenge mode, META, ...}?

basically does each column use its own portland-content-unit across all ships?

[tawdry halo]

I mean the only reason why I built 4 fleets is because of the previous coalition event

[verbal plinth]

those are so rare so id desolve them

[onyx flame]

im ngl you could literally 1:1 3 of the fights in the previous coalition event

[tawdry halo]

cant I just make up 2 best fleets out of the 4 fleets' ships, then make up the rest into the 2 latter fleets

[hollow gust]

or just not use the 2 latter fleets

[tawdry halo]

do you think you can help me build the 2 best fleets out of the 4 ss

mob boss, I'll figure out the rest

[rigid onyx]

building 4 fleets for the weird raid coalition whatever events is misguided

[rain bobcat]

im pretty sure its portland as in literally portland

[rigid onyx]

i think most events like that let you do a 'challenge' or somethign where you just use one fleet

[rain bobcat]

w15 is biased though because it deals very slightly less dmg to light

[rigid onyx]

there's 5 units: portland in w14/15, portland in meta, etc

i think

[rain bobcat]

I think its just standardised with portland being mean for all selections and the tests are run by hand

because ive seen mebot document his tests

[tight jetty]

man 14-4 hard boss is frustrating as hell

[tawdry halo]

so anyway may I have some helps on building 2 best fleets out of this 4

1 boss 1 mob

[rain bobcat]

hes doing w15 rn I think, with multiple nodes and came to a conclusion that enemy has about 10 less modifier to light than to med heavy

[rigid onyx]

i dont think the only unit can be average ehp because all the other columns would have slight variance (averaging to 1.0), but portland is a consistent 1.0 across all

[hollow gust]

Unicorn Nelson Sara
Saint Sandy Scylla

Hakuhou Lion Shinano
Lil-Anchorage Trafalgar Unzen

[rain bobcat]

i think its more of just a comparison to portland for every single content rather than what you mean about portland having same ehp for all fights

[wind hazel]

portland is the benchmark being used, that's why 100%

[gilded carbon]

what Ships are doing good against the current Arbiter N? I have found even my geared Ships and Fleets struggle against them. I would set up a thread in a bit and send some screens for context

[rain bobcat]

but yeah I do understand what you mean

[wind hazel]

how you would get the other ships's benchmark if you don't have a set point lol

portland in w14 100% isn't the 100% in META for example

[rigid onyx]

im wondering if there's 5 portland benchmarks used: one for each type of content that's being normalized for, or if everything is normalized against portland average ehp

[rain bobcat]

yeah I understood that. im under the impression it would be the former

[rigid onyx]

wack

[rain bobcat]

he does manually run the ships iirc

100 runs I think he does?

[rigid onyx]

i mean this doesnt have to do with manually running at all

[wind hazel]

anti light ones. get your adaptive tuning up before fighting

[rain bobcat]

but yeah its probably different 100% for all

I dont think it would be the same avg ehp used because diff content has diff dmg

like me pointing out that there is light armour bias on w15

[tawdry halo]

tysm

... wait lil ancho to tank??

[hollow gust]

also where tf are all your tanks

the vanguard is a sorry ass state

[rain bobcat]

ships with rockets, he ammo, etc, ships like lexington kear yorktown2

[rigid onyx]

if it's a different 100% for all i feel like the mixing of units makes average ehp mean nothing

[wind hazel]

just let unzen tank. lil anchorage is shit in comparison

[late flame]

anti light fleet

[tawdry halo]

Unzen lv123 should be relevant to lv125 Lil Ancho for tanking right?

[rain bobcat]

he'll probably come around to ur message later since it should be hella early in most west to european countries still

unless hes in the east in which case its sleepy time

[wind hazel]

louis scylla sandy mob
unzen helena traf boss

replace with proper tank like anchorage when you get her

[rain bobcat]

I havent cleared a lot of areas yet

[small quarry]

Has anyone recently cleared any War Archives? Can you confirm if the ship in the picture drops in B3? The info says that clearing D3 60 times will unlock it... so I wanted to clear up this doubt, since only B3 is available.

[eternal basalt]

15:00 in West Europe:

[hollow gust]

why is your d3 not available?

[rigid onyx]

oh wait average ehp isnt just a simple average of the 6 different columns

[tawdry halo]

so just throw lil ancho off the bus entirely?

[wind hazel]

yes

[rain bobcat]

I dont see a reason to use lil ancho

[tawdry halo]

ight

[eternal basalt]

They drop in D3, 60x is just guanteed pity drop

[rain bobcat]

actually isnt lil agir kinda fat lmao

120? i forgot

[onyx flame]

hit the hard button on the bottom left when in the event page, you should be doing hard only anyway

[tawdry halo]

wait I also throw Implacable off the list?

[onyx flame]

101.1%

[rain bobcat]

lil agir is 101?

[onyx flame]

oh wait agir

[tawdry halo]

wait why Implacable too

[late flame]

also please dont 3 star war archive as there is no additional rewards

[onyx flame]

110% for lil agir

[tawdry halo]

I dont see Implacable, am I seriously yeeting UR off the list

[hollow gust]

little anchor is not that squishy lmao, shes tankier then portland

[wind hazel]

i didnt check main fleet, im only talking about vanguard

[hollow gust]

she stat checks the stat checker

[rain bobcat]

implac does quite low dmg tbf

[onyx flame]

i mean 1% is tanky ig

[tawdry halo]

Unicorn Nelson Sara
Saint Sandy Scylla

Hakuhou Lion Shinano
Unzen Helena Trafalgar

[small quarry]

There is no HARD mode when you go to the war archives.

[wind hazel]

yeah i'd just keep this, or you can put implacable instead of sara if you want

[rain bobcat]

looks fine, would replace sara with cowpens if have

[eternal basalt]

Yes, there is, check bottom.

[onyx flame]

bottom left

[sharp furnace]

Is the UR torpedo better at +13, i got made my first one? only got 1 of the gold torpedo

[hollow gust]

the new collab ships would also replace half those ships

[rain bobcat]

its in another place

[rigid onyx]

improved quads are better

[tawdry halo]

is sara just that good in mobbing she competes with Implacable

[wind hazel]

yes and no

[rain bobcat]

improved quad generally better

[hollow gust]

you wiill rather have 3 normal quad+13 then 1 rainbow

[rain bobcat]

btw weren't we supposed to get a carl rerun

[small quarry]

So the drop seems to fall randomly. Thanks, I did that and haven't received it yet, I'll keep trying. Thanks.

[wind hazel]

kinda, sara augment has strong barrage. implacable main strength which is freeze is kinda unnecessary in campaign

[eternal basalt]

Soon TM. Guam first,, and CNY

[late flame]

-# justice for anson when

[tawdry halo]

I dont do campaign rn, so I guess I could reserve Sara in either fleet 3 or 4 to support grinding?

[wind hazel]

yes just keep in mind that doing B3 isn't gonna guarantee you. so it's really up to luck if you choose to farm from B3 instead of D3

[rain bobcat]

bashed into deletion

[wind hazel]

then what are you doing

opsi fleet is totally different story than the 2 fleets you were given

[late flame]

4 fleets for event stronk

[tawdry halo]

event and opsi is in my plan

[small quarry]

I understand now, going over the speed limit 60 times uses a lot of fuel. I'll leave it for another time, I wanted to go through it in normal mode. Thanks.

[wind hazel]

use the fleets you were given for event then

[rain bobcat]

[tawdry halo]

ok

time to switch gears

[wind hazel]

opsi ask another person

[rain bobcat]

[gilded carbon]

the ones i dont have. Well, this is going to take a while after i have upped the tuning

[late flame]

-# error another person not found

[hollow gust]

so much arrays wasted on those useless ships

[wind hazel]

you can run 3 BB and use MK6 and it will be anti light

[tawdry halo]

@another person

hm....

[rain bobcat]

most UR BB will just demolish the boss

I dont even switch gear my BB fleet just kills it with AP guns in 2-3 shots

[tawdry halo]

do I put double breguet on shinano

double breguet and helldiver, or 1 F6F Hellcat, 1 Helldiver and 1 golden Barracuda

[tawdry halo]

@wind hazel @hollow gust

[wind hazel]

for event? hellcat helldiver breguet

[tawdry halo]

alright

[hallow spoke]

why do people have like 500k oil in their mail 😭

thats not fair 😭 😭

[onyx flame]

old players who havent actively used their oil in a while

[rain bobcat]

because they've been playing and saving for years?

[sinful relic]

heya, so i got amagi... i really love her, can i swap out saratoga for her? (i dont have saratoga built properly) SR version

[rain bobcat]

like at most you get maybe 150k oil in mail a year

[hallow spoke]

aint no way...

should i mlb my raffaelo, i have two UR bulins or do i Lb 2 a lexington

[wind hazel]

BC amagi sucks

[sinful relic]

anything i can improve on for lexington 2? ive finally MLB her, just need to get better equipment for her.

[rapid shard]

Dont LB till you can MLB in one shot. Wait till you get 4 then check again. you may get better ships by then @hallow spoke

[rain bobcat]

why is ur raffaelo already 2lb before u had bulins and do u have musashi

[hallow spoke]

so MLB my raff?

[whole crypt]

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide/
https://azurlaneecgc.com/equipment/

[sinful relic]

can she not still be used for most content?

[hallow spoke]

i got two copies of her....

[rain bobcat]

now that explains it better

if u have musashi maybe wait til 4 do lexi, if not do raff

[hallow spoke]

lmao, anyway what do i do with my bulins

[whole crypt]

BC Amagi is probably lower middle SR at this point

LB ships

[sinful relic]

shame, still gonna marry her cuz waifu-

[hallow spoke]

so i mlb my raff?

i think shes like level 117 and i havent even reached chapter 9 yet

[strange sphinx]

do you have any other UR?

[wind hazel]

wait for amagi CV to rerun, she's better, and more waifu. also no covid sickness

[hallow spoke]

not limitbroken at all tho

[strange sphinx]

no more TB

[whole crypt]

if it's dupes go ahead
if it's bulins do you have other URs that have higher priority, or how many can you actually afford

[hallow spoke]

I have a william d porter, Lexington, and implacable

[strange sphinx]

[tawdry halo]

also which is better for bossing, Long Island or Saratoga

[strange sphinx]

is that it?

[hallow spoke]

mhm

[whole crypt]

I assume they're all not LB
how many bulins do you have/can afford

[strange sphinx]

neither, Sara is mob

[hallow spoke]

theyre not and atm i only have 2 bulins, i can get a third from event

[whole crypt]

save for Laffey II

[hallow spoke]

i bought one from proto shop so i might not be able to get another one there

[rapid shard]

I would still say wait till you have 4 bulins then check again

[whole crypt]

you can buy as many as you want from proto shop, the limit is how many spec cores you have

[hallow spoke]

dont got a laffey 2 lol

[sinful relic]

damn calling out BC amagi- anyways yeah ill do that, i still wanted her so i got her, now i just gotta save my resources and level up. i have my two teams sorta built? everyone is MLB now i just gott apush

[rapid shard]

You will in like a week and half

[whole crypt]

she's rerunning in 1+ weeks and she's a shop ship

[hallow spoke]

which shop ship

[strange sphinx]

Just like William

[whole crypt]

she is in the shop for Guam's event like Willie D is now

[strange sphinx]

guam rerun event

[hallow spoke]

k

[rapid shard]

Reruns on the 15th. exactly 13 days from now. Laff2 will be free from the event shop

[whole crypt]

if you actually have the spare spec cores then I think Raff is a fair MLB to carry

[hallow spoke]

laffey 2 is front row right?

[rapid shard]

Yes one of the best VGs in game

[whole crypt]

it doesn't sound like you know how many you can afford exactly but 30k for this event, 15k for Guam rerun is already 2 bulins, have you reached lv100 for cruise?

[tawdry halo]

This should do fine right y'all?

[strange sphinx]

? 4 fleet?

[eternal basalt]

Opsi

[strange sphinx]

ah

[tawdry halo]

Yea

[tawdry halo]

@hollow gust

[hollow gust]

Implacable goes with Sakura CVs

[hallow spoke]

i have 23k total in event so i can hit 30k fine, i have one and a half fleet up till level 100+
Uni, Cow, Raff
Bolzano, Sandy, Mont

[tawdry halo]

Now I am confused

[whole crypt]

I see two effective fleets and 2 fillers

[hallow spoke]

i have enty and rossiya till 100+ too

[strange sphinx]

switch lion and implac

[whole crypt]

just Lion/Uni/Sara one fleet and Shinano/Hakuhou/Implacable the other

[summer patio]

What's the cool code that the paws I randomly keep finding that say a letter?

[eternal basalt]

They mean cruise pass lrvel 100

[tawdry halo]

So a full boss CV?

[whole crypt]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Akashi/Questline

[hallow spoke]

well no i cant do D3

[tawdry halo]

And Lion goes mob fleet?

[hallow spoke]

I wanna do D3 but i cant bc not met requirements

[whole crypt]

what level is your cruise pass at, not your ships

[strange sphinx]

what is this anyway? Opsi or What

[hallow spoke]

101

[rapid summit]

Save my UR bulins for Laffey II?

[whole crypt]

do you know what the cruise pass is...

[tawdry halo]

@wind hazel it's getting a bit confused rn, do I move Lion to mob and move Implacable to boss to make full cv boss fleet

[desert epoch]

I believe 12-1 is best for exp grinding?

[hallow spoke]

OH THAT

[hallow spoke]

like level 70 rn

[wind hazel]

why are you asking me

[strange sphinx]

is this Opsi fleet

like we are confuse too (Maybe I'm the only one though)

[eternal basalt]

level 100 gives another UR bulin

[whole crypt]

1 more bulin in there when you reach lv100
so between your 2 bulins now
1 from this event at 30k
1 from next event at 15k
how many spec cores do you have

[hallow spoke]

yea

[tawdry halo]

no... event

maybe for opsi too but like

[hallow spoke]

200. bc i just bought my 2nd bulin there

[tawdry halo]

probably an all-usage type of mob boss fleet that I currently need

[strange sphinx]

then why need 4 fleet

[whole crypt]

MLB Raff first, she'll carry you
you'll have (almost) enough for Laffey II by the time she comes around

have you bought spec cores from medal shop this month yet?

[tawdry halo]

I built 4 fleets due to the previous event with coalition mode (yes I am stupid)

[hallow spoke]

can i only buy 1 laffery from the shop, and yes thats how i got my bulin

[tawdry halo]

and also to fill in opsi

[whole crypt]

we don't know how the 2 copies will work this is the first time a shop UR is rerunning

[eternal basalt]

LaffII is from the 15th rerun, not available now

[hallow spoke]

okayy

[desert epoch]

Question, is the best stage for grinding exp 12-1 or 13-1? I forgot

[tawdry halo]

tbh if I move Implacable to boss fleet that would leave an awkward situation of Unicorn flagship the mob fleet with Nelson and Lion as BBs...

[strange sphinx]

mina, Just make a thread

[hallow spoke]

yea ik

[tawdry halo]

#1365706033275863091

[whole crypt]

you can move her around
also move Nelson out and Saratoga in