gameplay-help

[little prawn]

Perfect. You guys rock! Thank you!!

[whole crypt]

you won't have a lot of time to save for the next new UR after that so the number sounds about right

[chrome fiber]

Okay so before i set in equipment for the UR ship im about to farm lvl for can someone tell me who i should place in to my mob and boss fleet.

[peak fable]

man, how do I stop my main fleet from mogging my vanguard fleet from mvp exp, actually I should change my question, why are most vanguard ships so fucking weak DPS wise lol

[little prawn]

@whole crypt and @knotty jolt with all my URs, do you guys have recommendations for fleet combos? I just kinda slap together URs that are in the same faction. If this is a loaded question, feel free to disregard lol

[strange flame]

how do you get the UR parts for the guns in gear lab, ive been doing opsi for a bit now, and have been clearing all the corrosion 5 and 6 locations, but arent getting anything, i dont understand, is it just drop rate?

[knotty jolt]

for stuff outside of content needing proper fleets you're fine but once you're at those points you can just check on some of the guides made for clearing that content

[peak fable]

they are pretty rare and at least I have gotten the UR prints mostly from high level siren nodes

[knotty jolt]

Unequip your backline of their gear and have most of the damage come from cross fleet barrages

[peak fable]

inb4 my musashi gets mvp without being on the fleet

[strange flame]

so am i clearing the right nodes? or is there something im no doing right

[knotty jolt]

It's just a matter of grinding

[peak fable]

Just clear everything you can clear, there is no right or wrong

if you clear it, good, if you don't clear it, come back later

[ivory pawn]

You’re guaranteed some (3?) in the shop each month, plus a high chance of a couple from Siren fights, plus one from Arbiter.

After all that is exhausted, you’re praying on the low odds they drop from a cat node.

[peak fable]

Level 5 and 6 Siren nodes give me the most personally

[knotty jolt]

we love UR torpedo prints

[whole crypt]

for what stage

[ivory pawn]

Oh, File Coord loggers in the Voucher Shop guarantee one print each too.

[whole crypt]

depends on what you're building fleets for

[peak fable]

me leveling my 17th Unzen, just so I can cope on penta mag rainbow torps

[chrome fiber]

Just generally for campaign since im not really doing much other then campaign for now. i just got too ch13

[peak fable]

heard suchi talk about recycling plates in his recent video, do you get plates back when you upgrade a leveled gear or something?

[silver lintel]

what the fastest opsi mobbing fleet

[hollow gust]

You get full gold plates retuned if you upgrade a +13 weapon in gear labs

[peak fable]

ah, but you dont get any other plates back, right

[hollow gust]

Close enough

[hollow gust]

You get a lot of it back , not all

[peak fable]

oh, I've been hesitating to level gear I planned to upgrade, but glad to know

[whole crypt]

if you're leveling you should do it at ch12 and all those will work fine, your fleets shouldn't have much trouble with 13 either way unless you have a gear issue

[silver lintel]

this is fastest?

[whole crypt]

you get all plates back if you "upgrade" the gear in lab, it's only coins that you don't get back in full

[hollow gust]

Close enough to fastest , you can prob pull off something weird thing with all carriers but they are just worst then lion for harder content like abyssals

[whole crypt]

that said it's only gold plates that matter

[whole crypt]

Lion is "faster" because of barrage timings

the ideal setup has her using no radar/table + 460 anyway

[hollow gust]

best girl

[chrome fiber]

I see so basically those UR are just situational? And how my current fleet is would work.

[silver lintel]

what to use if no luna

[whole crypt]

only some sort of hard-ish boss encounter will reach her reload and the 460 will finish it off

Luna isn't in that picture

[whole crypt]

it's less that the URs are situational and more that 13 is easy

[hollow gust]

All the URs are direct improvements over your current ships but you don't have levels in then

[silver lintel]

huh which one is the 3rd ship

[hollow gust]

That's formidable Muse , you don't need her . Just run like a independence and you will be fine

[whole crypt]

Formuse

[hot turret]

Just pulled Illustrious, is it useful? I already have a couple UR carrier that I just need to max limit break and a max level max limit break Uni

[whole crypt]

and yes you can replace her with some sort of faster launching carrier

[silver lintel]

also why gouden and traf

[whole crypt]

ignore shields

[hollow gust]

traf buffs lion barrage and in general damage

[chrome fiber]

Okay so if i had lvl in them who would i likely to replace so i avoid investing to much?

[silver lintel]

k lemme try im still using ibuki shima bayard

[peak fable]

will laffey rerun with guam, or later

[onyx flame]

together

[whole crypt]

Ibuki is fine but Shimakaze can probably be dropped

[hollow gust]

Lion instead of Strasburg
Zwei instead of Nelson
Traffy instead of Helena
Sandy to Mob , Elridge to Boss

[onyx flame]

well should be, its the first time we getting a double ur rerun so who knows

[whole crypt]

after augment unless it's as a TRP stat stick, Shimakaze is just worse than Ibuki

[peak fable]

will one of them be shop obtainable or something lol, I have about 400 cubes, but not sure if I could pull both

[hollow gust]

Worst then Noshiro too

*very likely worst

[onyx flame]

its should be the same format like the current event 1 gacha, 1 shop

[eternal basalt]

We don't know how thry do non-gacha UR rerun

[silver lintel]

if lion is mobbing whats the bb fleet

[peak fable]

is this actually the first one?

cool, guess I started AL at just the right time lol

[ivory pawn]

BisZwei Meck Alsace, probably.

[hollow gust]

Other BBs , heres the thing , whoever is choosing to use Lion or Fastest mob fleet more likely then not have busted fleets already.

If you are struggling with harby then lion and Traffy shouldn't be mobbing

[whole crypt]

wait was Laffey II our first dual UR event

[silver lintel]

yes

[peak fable]

do main fleet URs have always prio over VG URs?

[hollow gust]

Until you get enough UR backline yes

Backline just have a strong impact

[peak fable]

enough is... how many? 3 fleets?

[hollow gust]

Fully dependent on different kind of ships

[eternal basalt]

[peak fable]

well I guess that just means I will need A LOT of them

[forest palm]

~~outside of may Guam and Unzen, I don't think there's any gacha UR that relevant or isn't replaced by a DR/SSR ~~

I mean vanguard btw

[peak fable]

seen a trend recently that Vanguards are just there so the main fleet performs better, rather than taking on their own percentage of damage

[forest palm]

that's always been more or less the way it worked

[chrome fiber]

Has alsace ever done a rerun? just curious

[ivory pawn]

How many other gacha UR VGs even are there? Shimakaze?

[viscid swift]

Kronshtadt

Z52, Mogador, Laffey 2, Trafalgar, William D. Porter

[forest palm]

all of which are free, and aren't gacha

[hollow gust]

That's just disingenuous considering shop URs also need bulins. And there are some very busted ships

[forest palm]

brother I bolded Gacha for a reason, you're talking about shop ships not gacha ships

[viscid swift]

they may as well be gacha ships considering we have to lump them all together for consideration on who gets priority for UR Bullins

[hollow gust]

[forest palm]

that feels like an independent factor though

[hollow gust]

[viscid swift]

what

[hollow gust]

The main fucking cost that caps UR are UR bulins , which is a common resource in both shop and gatcha UR

[forest palm]

still doesn't mean shop ships came from the gacha

while both required the same resource, shop ships are free attainable ship with no need to spend currency

[eternal basalt]

Looks at 210k specialised cores

[viscid swift]

I know that, but as an umbrella term it's more used to describe ships that need bullins these days

[forest palm]

since when though?

[hollow gust]

""they may as well be gacha ships considering we have to lump them all together for consideration on who gets priority for UR Bullins""

[forest palm]

again that doesn't justify to me

[wind hazel]

[viscid swift]

I really don't care honestley what you think of the term, that's just how it's commonly used here now

[hollow gust]

It doesn't matter what you think, they all need the same types of investment. So they are considered together

[forest palm]

thanks for being a parrot

[hollow gust]

Its asinine to split shop and gatcha into different laths of investment and categories just cause they are obtained differently

[lyric stump]

Thing theres no place for old player to spend thier core while new player dont have enough

When manjuu month cap 6k and idk add smth to shop

[hollow gust]

When considering Guam and Laffey investments you pick the stronger ship... only reason Laffey is better consideration is cause she is more versatile.

If Laffey was gatcha nothing much changed

[eternal basalt]

8k - 5k per month, 3k from medals

[forest palm]

which is honestly good for new players

[viscid swift]

it's 5k a month now

[forest palm]

though them adding Chips and Arrays to the SP Cores would be nice

[ivory sigil]

if i use urbulin for vanguard i might screw up
i should keep my UR bulin until i found lion then

[forest palm]

you'd be sitting on a mountain in that case...

[lyric stump]

Tgats 1.5h year minimun

[eternal basalt]

If I could change specialised core to chips, I would be a happy puppy

[ivory sigil]

-# im hoping lexi2 would drop 2 more without me spending 400cube

[forest palm]

bold strategy

[ivory sigil]

MLB UR aint that hard if we keep get lucky

Inb4 scamcat pop up

[clear harbor]

How many cubes do you have? Maybe just save for Guam and future URs?

[eternal basalt]

3 a day

[forest palm]

UR Reruns is like what 320~ish cubes for pity?

[white agate]

prolly

[ivory sigil]

I stay at 399 and do 5-10 per day

[eternal basalt]

44 free pulls yeah

[ivory sigil]

Hoping cowpen to appear

[clear harbor]

Oh fair.

[ivory sigil]

I had already use like 60 pulls already, ||3 Lexi2 || had appear and 0 cow

Oops

[clear harbor]

Lol. That kind of happens to me, too. I often pull my second UR before some random SSR or Elite I'm trying to get.

[white agate]

other times you get all ships in the banner in 50 pulls

[eternal basalt]

Shinano flashback, 4 shinano's before 1 chiyoda

[forest palm]

chasing the SR when you already have the SSR and UR is a classic

[clear harbor]

Yeah, it makes me appreciate the one or two times I've actually been able to sweep the banner.

[white agate]

chase it only if either i like it or it has useful tech, else skip

[eternal pine]

is it normal to have to level grind at the start? or am I somehow messing smth up?

[clear harbor]

From over function I say!

[white agate]

yes ; no,maybe the paid lvl 70 commander level

[red sapphire]

What's better on Trafy SR quads or UR quints? They have same dmg per torpedo iirc but don't know anything about patterns

[toxic wren]

Hello, chat. I'm trying to create two formations for myself. I came up with this option. I'd like to know your opinion.

[eternal basalt]

Elite look best and have best skins though, this time again

[ivory sigil]

Peak team

Wait where is UNzen's star?

[viscid swift]

even ignoring the lack of limit breaks looks pretty questionable on numerous aspects

might wanna give this a read
https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/progression-guide/

[red sapphire]

What about this? Someone know?

[viscid swift]

the regular quads are a sidegrade to the UR quints

[red sapphire]

Sidegrade means equal?

[forest palm]

both work, if you have one pick one, don't craft the UR one though

[viscid swift]

sometimes better, sometimes worse, sometimes the same

[red sapphire]

I see. In what case UR is better than the SR?

[red sapphire]

I crafted one because I didn't stop getting torpedo design plans on OpSi. I have almost zero of the others tought. I'm very (un)lucky

[viscid swift]

pretty much purely if you're only get preloads out of them and when the timing suits the quints better

[red sapphire]

Alright, thanks. Also, Traffy should use HP or torpedo aux?

Right now she uses Michael + Toolkit

[viscid swift]

the usual if she dies use defensive auxes, if she lives use offensive auxes

[ocean terrace]

at how many cubes is it safe to start doing daily special pool over light, or 2/3 light pulls a day

[summer patio]

Guys what's up with this whole META thing and what should I buy from here?

[viscid swift]

personally I'd say never

[hollow gust]

That's dependent on what you consider safe, the only concrete fact is that UR pity is 400

[knotty jolt]

Anyone you wish cause none of them are usuable. At the very least they take up no dock space so it's just for the tech and collection

[ocean terrace]

damn, I was hoping I could speed up UR pity progress at some point

[eternal basalt]

Special is the current event banner, sooooo...

[viscid swift]

in the sesne that it's never worth pulling on heavy or special pool

[summer patio]

But they're ships, right? Are they any good?

[atomic abyss]

no

[ocean terrace]

meh, still a daily chance of UR over light

[hollow gust]

Wishing Well and non UR event is a thing

[forest palm]

you could do 1 special a day, but you only net 2 cubes per day off of dailies at that point

[viscid swift]

it's still classified as an event banner not the special pool

[atomic abyss]

not usable =/= not good

[viscid swift]

you do know that non UR events count toward perma pity right?

[clear harbor]

What's the thing about event pools? There're a combination of limited and heavy or something?

[atomic abyss]

they have their uses, but their use is very much for end game grind

[atomic abyss]

they are either based on the special pool or the heavy pool

[ocean terrace]

sure but would I ever pull for non UR events? considering the SR ships are usually meh

[viscid swift]

as well as the fact we have an event twice a year called the wishing well which allows you to 2 select 2 ships from one of the perma pools to have rate up for a limited time

[eternal basalt]

Either heavy or special + event ships

[viscid swift]

I'd sooner pull on them over heavy or special

[atomic abyss]

still most likely better than pulling on the permanent banner

[summer patio]

Oh wow, so basically useless for me in the foreseeable future?

[knotty jolt]

Every pull on a non UR event is double pity for the perma pool ships

[hollow gust]

Considering the recent collab proves otherwise

[atomic abyss]

correct, so you can ignore the shop

[viscid swift]

it's always either the heavy or special pool

[ocean terrace]

true but I looked at the upcoming 3 or 4 SR reruns and they're really mediocre ships

[knotty jolt]

I mean they can atleast buy them for the initial fleet tech and stats they provide

[eternal basalt]

Next up is CNY, light pool

[atomic abyss]

ah yes, because a new player needs meta faction tech, and is able to 120 them for fleet tech

[hollow gust]

What even is the next few reruns

[forest palm]

you still get free ticket pulls

[viscid swift]

CNY is always just the event ships added to the light pool, there's no seperate event tab for LNY events

[ocean terrace]

oh for non UR event reruns? that's nice

[atomic abyss]

for all rerun events

[forest palm]

it's like 30 or some shit for SSR events

[viscid swift]

32 or 33

[ocean terrace]

and did someone say they count double for UR pity?

[patent pivot]

if you ordered data from me its up

[knotty jolt]

There's the collection fleet tech is what i'm referring to

[viscid swift]

1 pity point is 1 cube spent so yeah, one pull on an event gives you 2 pity points except for LNY

[eternal basalt]

Exluding that recent rerun for the one ship...

[ocean terrace]

someone had told me permanent pity is based on pulls not cubes

[atomic abyss]

what

no

it's the opposite

[eternal basalt]

Even tickets give +2

[ocean terrace]

got it, either way I'm not sure if I'll be actively pulling for SR events

which is why I asked at what point can I do more than a single daily light pull to speed up pity

[eternal basalt]

It didn't give tickets for the Marseillaise light rerun

[clear harbor]

I feel like you might as well pull event banners because of the rate up. But I'm also tired of all the destroyers I get from the light pool. 😩

[viscid swift]

let me put it like this, if you're looking to save on Bullins I'd sooner rather pull for dupes of Lexington 2 and other event URs than bank points for perma pity faster

[ocean terrace]

fair enough, though I tend to pull for all ships on the 1st day of events and invest immediately if I can

[knotty jolt]

still missing a destroyer from light pool, Libeccio

[ocean terrace]

like I did with this event, I managed to get all the event ships in 60 pulls

[eternal basalt]

There is an UR bulin for money now

[ocean terrace]

and this is even if you're 800 or 1000+ cubes?

[viscid swift]

hmmm?

[ocean terrace]

banking points for perma pity, outside of daily light or doing daily special for example

[knotty jolt]

If i had that many cubes i'd still be frugal cause RNG has fucked me over in the past

[eternal basalt]

1.2% chance each shippull

[knotty jolt]

Not even a UR, it was an elite during hololive that fucked me and I'm still pissed

[onyx flame]

classic, sr/e being harder to get than the ur

[clear harbor]

I, too, have missed out on collab ships due to poor luck.

[viscid swift]

really depends on how lucky you feel

[ocean terrace]

fair enough

[eternal basalt]

I, too, have missed out on a SR due to bad luck (and a hospital visit for a month)

[clear harbor]

I mean, if you're looking to hit the perma UR pity faster, you're just looking to develop power crept ships? Even if you're looking to save on UR bulin, getting extra copies of a UR Event ship (if one is active) saves on bulin.

[clear harbor]

I'm glad you are well enough to tell the tale now, at least.

[white agate]

unless they do smh like augment for perma ur

tho the augment may really need to be strong if some wanna compete

[eternal basalt]

first

[white agate]

anyhow essex ur can get an augment too , same for eldridge

the next one to get the augm should be yudachii, right?

then eldkai the year after and later on essex if i have to guess?

[eternal basalt]

I'm pretty sure they dart the winners, like with oath skins

[onyx flame]

that not how it works but aight

[white agate]

anyhow someone has already speculation about the next retro ur?
like it has gone like 3/5 to EU ships so i guess this year we will get a non EU ur retro

[eternal basalt]

I speculate August '26... anything else

[eternal pine]

let me consult the genie

[whole crypt]

plot twist CN anniv takes next year's UR retrofit

[white agate]

fine by me, cn has 0 ur

[eternal pine]

the genie told me azur lane will be EoS in january 2026

😇

[whole crypt]

CN anniv doesn't mean it'll be a dragon empery ship

[onyx flame]

lny does give a de retro maybe it be a ur this time

or 500 more ddgs

[white agate]

this... may be an interesting speculation, imagine we start getting 2 ur retro per year

[whole crypt]

anyway #al-general

[eternal basalt]

And 9 new URs, first 3 UR event in dec

[white agate]

that is the way of the non game related talk

[ocean terrace]

that sounds more like #off-topic

[whole crypt]

baseless speculations don't belong here either

[turbid dawn]

Well I've managed to get it so I consistently get boss down to 2/3 bars left but I just don't have enough to get the ones I'm missing. I'm guessing there's not much I can improve on with this? (Apart from +13-ing the ply guns which I don't have the mats for)

[eternal basalt]

Which boss?

[whole crypt]

have you read stiggy's yorktown meta guide

[turbid dawn]

This meta

I've only seen the prelim fleets thing in pins

[white agate]

@whole crypt anyhow , know where ceeky usually publish their list?
since it does not figure in the bot commands iirc

[whole crypt]

it's about as final as it gets

[hollow gust]

Won't Plymouth be better then Duisburg

[whole crypt]

ask cheeks when he next drops by I have no idea

[atomic abyss]

he didnt ask me to add it to the bot

so

[whole crypt]

somethingsomething summons

[atomic abyss]

[turbid dawn]

No, Plys is like 10-12 bars less dmg

[viscid swift]

what tier list

[whole crypt]

your lategame usefulness list thing

[viscid swift]

oh that

[white agate]

this #gameplay-help message

[viscid swift]

haven't made once since Yorktown META and Lexington 2 and Porter dropped
never proved that useful

[hollow gust]

[silver lintel]

do you need oath for 4 strike bb

[whole crypt]

Helena gaming

I gave up on Kurumi 125 and Momo 120 has been 100% consistent for me so far

[white agate]

i think kurumi 125 may be useful in pvp too? tho needs to ask alpha or mori i guess?

[turbid dawn]

Yeah this has been the only time where I wish I pulled for collab ships, I just don't care for them and never bother

[toxic wren]

Checked this guide and tried to rebuild my formations. Does it looks better?

[ocean terrace]

from what I recall, she takes too long to get enough clones out and just dies

[whole crypt]

I doubt Kurumi can summon clones consistently enough and stay alive for PvP over the current meta lineup

[white agate]

ok, thought she could stop the tea torp

[turbid dawn]

People don't tea torp anymore though right because of Seydlitz?

[ocean terrace]

yeah pretty sure alpha had done some testing
though he advocates for Kotori being really good in PvP and uses her

[white agate]

so only magn torp? or other?

[whole crypt]

it's still a thing but current vanguards aren't heavy on torp damage to have any serious effect with tea torps

[turbid dawn]

No, the anti-light torps, I don't remember exactly which 1s

[white agate]

me using the plate(heavy) on one of my vanguard

[viscid swift]

eh, still looks questionable

some of those ships really aren't worth investing bullins into assuming you have the bullins to invest in the first place

[turbid dawn]

These 1s

[stark quiver]

I haven’t seen her get used much

Kotori is good

[tulip tinsel]

fought someone with kurumi once and she didn't last 10 seconds(pvp)

[whole crypt]

are the PvP gurus cooking anything new with the collab ships or is it still the same old for top meta

[white agate]

she is like a steydlitz sidegrade or upgrade?

[toxic wren]

Got it, can you tell me which ships are worth upgrading? I guess I'm not very good at ship building 🙂

[viscid swift]

so you can't get any UR Bullins?

[toxic wren]

Now I have 4. But I don’t know who to give them to.

[viscid swift]

right now lexington 2, anywway where are in the main campaign?

[toxic wren]

At 10-1. I didn't really spend much time on it.

[tulip tinsel]

get to at least 12-4

[light trail]

||same, i got 3 lexi2 in 4 10pulls, no cow until 120 pulls lol. i even pulled the 0.5% ship before cow ||

real actual question this time, how impactful are vanguard torps in content on their own for damage? like in mobbing and in bosses, assuming they're not there for secondary effects like skill procs

[whole crypt]

the real UR is always the one with no pity

[viscid swift]

Mob: Musashi, Unicorn, Volga, San Diego, Laffey, Tashkent
Boss: UvH, Enterprise, Akagi, Portland, Z23, Yuudachi

just push to 12

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide

[light trail]

because im pissed at all these UR torp prints i have and im considering just spending them on UR sub torps for i-404

[whole crypt]

95kai works

[stark quiver]

Up

[light trail]

this is my question tho, im wondering if i should just keep hoarding them in case a better gear lab torp is made

[whole crypt]

but I don't use seydlitz for PvP

[light trail]

but if there is a better gear lab UR torp, how impactful would they really be if they were, say, faster and stronger than gold quad mags? because i dont think they'd make ur torps that replace a niche like super fast reload ones like the ones used on anchorage

[paper walrus]

is la9 worth to +13

[whole crypt]

oh wow did they just update with Lex

[stark quiver]

Who’s they

[whole crypt]

whoever writes the PvP guide

[white agate]

i think for planes the prio is convergent torp bombers and then the La-9
ping someone like ceeky or suchi for this tho first

[toxic wren]

Got it, thanks. One more question. What's so special about Chapter 12 that you have to fly to get to it?

[stark quiver]

i guess the lex prophecies were right after all

[whole crypt]

time to cog Kotori I guess

vangaurd setup hasn't changed though

[tulip tinsel]

good coin/xp, shit can be levelled up easily there for 120 tech

[atomic abyss]

om

[viscid swift]

it is the single best spot for farming in the game

[toxic wren]

Oh, OK, thanks 🙂

[atomic abyss]

cheeky is right here tho

[stark quiver]

dear god, all the top meta fleets got pushed fully down

[paper walrus]

oh wait thats cheeky

[viscid swift]

/plus13

[odd root]

https://www.azurlaneecgc.com/images/equip_misc/%2B13_Priority.jpeg

[peak fable]

am i right in assuming that URs added to standard pity will not rerun again?

[white agate]

well, if kotori was a upgrade of seydlitz it makes sense, about lex 2 i still have to 125 her so still need to read the kit

[light trail]

since my torp question is probably impossible to answer, another question. im about to finish my 5th HVAR, but there's like a TON of time left in the event. should i just go for a 6th while i'm at it... or is that a waste

[viscid swift]

hmm, we might need to get that updated a bit

[whole crypt]

how much worth La-9 is to +13 depends on how many you have to set up the relevant fleet vs just using rainbow pewpew

[stark quiver]

shes basically nakh with more invuln

[white agate]

wait, what about same plane of priority things tho, i think conv torp takes prio over la-9

[viscid swift]

I would agree

[light trail]

who is

[whole crypt]

convTBs are higher priority than La-9 for heavy
for medium you have the problem of comparing 1440 gold plane plates vs 1080 gold gun plates

[white agate]

lex 2

[light trail]

okok. lex2 doesnt replace nakh right? iirc nakh is purely for heavy and lexi2 is almost purely for light?

[paper walrus]

has afct always been in the core shop i swear i didnt see it there before

[whole crypt]

it was just added

[viscid swift]

this is about PvP

[light trail]

i think it was added in a recent update

[white agate]

tbh my reasoning is conv torp can be used in med/heavy vs la-9 being ur expensive gear mainly good for medium

[light trail]

huge blessing because like an idiot i did not farm for the ur table even tho i was around for the event the first time

[whole crypt]

La-9 is the bis fighter for heavy but the crux of the issue is you can build an anti-heavy without fighters at all

[stark quiver]

how many books to book lex from 120 to 125

[whole crypt]

anti-medium you're banking on 4 La-9s across Nak/Fritz

[light trail]

[whole crypt]

compared to just using fancy BB fleet with rainbow gun

[viscid swift]

like 500 somthing around that

[viscid swift]

well they're perma now with Yorktown 2's event archived

[whole crypt]

are you done with points
if you're done with points just drop after 5th

[white agate]

also for the skyrider idk, after all la-9 has use mainly for medium armor, while the skyrider is good for med and light so idk reallly what to prio; i would prio the skyrider ,but i guess you need to weight the benefit of both

[whole crypt]

there is practically no use for a 6th copy at this point

[viscid swift]

so up to you really whether you wanna farm them now or later

[light trail]

oh really lol im stupid

i'll stop after i get 2 more prints then

[viscid swift]

still only as map drops though

[light trail]

that's basically free

[whole crypt]

to be fair you can still reasonably expect rocketcat to be added to lab at a later point

[viscid swift]

hehehe, I'd argue not given how poor the efficiency of event maps is

[whole crypt]

regardless 5 is fine

[light trail]

doubt i'll be farming a 6th anyway

[hollow gust]

Alpa wrong again about Lexy pvp viability

[stark quiver]

shh

i put off testing for a fat while

[whole crypt]

my Lex isn't even 120 yet

[white agate]

i have a better solution, oath her and level to 125

[hollow gust]

[light trail]

oh yeah, how many mecky guns do i want to have? should i stay in PR8 until i get 2-3 copies, or is 1 fine? i have 2 champy guns and a flan gun all +13

[whole crypt]

3

[light trail]

yeowch ok. that'll be like what, a year? lmao

[whole crypt]

5 months

[light trail]

oh no proplem

[ivory sigil]

You had cowpens before GTA6 ? 🥀

[light trail]

im like 75% done with pr8 development too so hopefully that speeds it up

[ivory sigil]

When was u 1st play AZ?

[light trail]

uhh. a long time ago

[whole crypt]

I'm working on my 4th gun and I'm already done with PR8 ships, so... 🎲

[light trail]

when taihou was released

taihou is the reason i started AL lmao

still my fave girl

[white agate]

we have her hot ur sister now btw, tho next time she will be pullable will be in a bit less of 2 years

[whole crypt]

after 4th meck gun I'll probably go back to hide in PR5

[light trail]

yes i know, i have her at 125 200 affection already

[white agate]

for more plygun?

[light trail]

only gacha URs im missing are guam, laf2, and soyuz

[white agate]

same

[whole crypt]

but laffey isn't a gacha ship

[light trail]

ok, non-perma

[paper walrus]

i have 8k protocore and ive bought everything important in the shop. Is there a point in continuing minmaxing? I think i have enough even for stuff that will be added in the future

[whole crypt]

(also yes I know I can just craft q152s in lab now but why bother when I can do more PR5)

[light trail]

8k is only enough for 2 UR bulins which isnt even enough to mlb one UR ship, so i think you should keep saving for who needs it most

[paper walrus]

prototype core not specialized

[white agate]

at how many La-9 did you stop btw?

[light trail]

oh, idk then

[whole crypt]

5

[white agate]

is 3 enough? i am considering mine the protocore from future one too

[whole crypt]

there'll be one in shop too so yes

[white agate]

when do you even use 4?

[whole crypt]

now

[stark quiver]

soy nakh fritz

[light trail]

how soon(tm)

[paper walrus]

even with the la9 ill have 5k left

[light trail]

oh i misread "too" as "soon"

[whole crypt]

ask cheeks I don't keep track of shop update timings very well (partly due to the lack of need)

[viscid swift]

January/February next year

[whole crypt]

oh it's with the CNY update?

CNY next year is mid Feb

[viscid swift]

probably

[whole crypt]

will this survive 13-4

[white agate]

are you really that starved for cog chips?

[verbal plinth]

Never enough

[whole crypt]

huh I don't need cog chips

I just want to do 13-4 because it's more XP/run and more coins

[white agate]

my game runs on exp/oil so i never explored the 13-x farm fronteer

[whole crypt]

I usually do 12-4 but needs change

anyway the fleet dropped taihou fine even with a confetti gun on Kotori so I guess I'm good

anyway more chips is still good I guess, I only have 28k now even if I only need around 2460 more

(+ however many 125 costs for Lex II)

[hollow gust]

Whelp Kurumi works

[whole crypt]

Kurumi is "better" for BB fleets

[stark quiver]

i need lex skin then 💀

[stark quiver]

yeah

[whole crypt]

Laffey and Momo don't work well with 4 strike BB

and 3 strike BB is just worse

bottom line sonaru still the highest overkill i.e. better consistency

[hollow gust]

[stark quiver]

fast

[eternal basalt]

CNY will be end jan, feb is new UR. Regardless of real date (3 week event too)

[chrome fiber]

I've just realized i have been playing for 2 years and i have never touched operation siren. Is there a in depth guide about it

[eternal basalt]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Operation_Siren

[viscid swift]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vRPJgxnXwC4r3Z8AlbzPUhHDXt0Dr7KP4TPriFnGafQrt1wE7Jb5AdRgfy8tXaLpTC-CtYAVMZgJE0g/pub

[verbal plinth]

<@&472236072743600148>

[atomic abyss]

[red sapphire]

What do you guys think about event shop fighter?

[viscid swift]

it's a dive bomber

[ivory pawn]

If only it was a Fighter. It’s a Dive Bomber, so good luck beating Helldivers.

[red sapphire]

Oops right the fighter was the map drop

Well, what do you think about the db?

[hushed delta]

it's very fast

[ivory pawn]

Better to have than to have not.

[red sapphire]

I see. Nothing special then

[vestal yoke]

is the next banner gonna be UR?

[hushed delta]

it's the fastest gold diver now, and much stronger than the 2nd fastest (Suisei)

[red sapphire]

I see. Is stronger?

[hushed delta]

simply put, 2000lb vs 1200lb in bombs

[red sapphire]

Oh, then is a good plane

For niche scenario at least

[stark quiver]

Very

[red sapphire]

Very good or very niche?

[stark quiver]

best for its niche
tenrai still better in terms of damage

[red sapphire]

Okay, thanks

[slender turtle]

For ch14, should I use meck or musashi for boss if I have lion on mob?

[stone sluice]

It might be good for timing purposes

[eternal basalt]

15 January Guam rerun, new banner CNY

[hollow gust]

Musashi is a better campaign BB

[valid forge]

i should always buy ur bulins in proto shop, right?

[viscid swift]

well only when you need them

[forest palm]

save your self the dock space, only buy UR Bulins when it's to MLB a UR

[valid forge]

okay

btw i have 4 ur bullins now, should i get shihano from mail?

[viscid swift]

meh, Shinano wouldn't have priority for UR Bullins

[eternal pine]

is this decent for a new person

[viscid swift]

no
give this a read
https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/progression-guide/

[cloud panther]

Where are the books?

[valid forge]

for who i should save em then?

[grave cove]

What should I buy?

[viscid swift]

https://azurlaneecgc.com/shop_priority/#medal

[viscid swift]

event URs mainly

[valid forge]

like current william and lexington?

[viscid swift]

yes

[valid forge]

okay

[grave cove]

K and then what would be next for core data? I have 2 white, 2 black, independence, 2 Breguet, and 1 snorkel

[viscid swift]

both admiralty fire control tables

[grave cove]

👍 ty very much

[eternal pine]

but but I did

[viscid swift]

clearly you didn't

[valid forge]

how to get prototype cores?

[grave cove]

Analyzing combat data packs

[valid forge]

uh what are those

[grave cove]

You get them from handbook missions and cruise pass

[grave cove]

Apologies on this one, I am aware of the guide, just wasn't sure if there was some unlisted priority to the lesser stuff.

[viscid swift]

not particularly, personal preference mainly

[hot turret]

Anything I should buy in Merit shop?

[grave cove]

oh no

[grave cove]

https://azurlaneecgc.com/shop_priority/#merit

Basically those or if you need fleet tech. There's another tab under gameplay that lists those

[hot turret]

I'm more of a casual player so I was just curious cause 20k for a ship is a lot and I only have 30k

[hollow gust]

there is no rush to get most ships in that shop

[grave cove]

Eldridge event just happened so thats gonna prob be another yearish right?

[eternal basalt]

It should go perma in around august

[grave cove]

Gotcha. I missed the last one 😫 . rip

[short wagon]

event f4u better than helldiver?

[hollow gust]

damage no

[short wagon]

ok nvm then

[hollow gust]

still should get it

its important later on

[rain bobcat]

@whole crypt I've made 0 progress lol

in fact i've gone from 600-900 instead

[old laurel]

Need some tweaking help if any is needed for my Essex and NJ. Still saving up parts to level the gear but should I swap any out on either of them?

[rain bobcat]

wyvern on essex over skypirate. NJs lion gun can be replaced with an AP gun depending on enemy

also please please don't arbitrarily +11 random shit, you either +13 a gear straight from +10 or don't touch it

flapjack and skypirate is just a waste of gold plates

+13 on staag is also unecessary

[old laurel]

Ooo okay, thank you for that tip ill start swapping around

Didn't know going 1 level at a time wasn't good

Wyvern is a gear lab for royal navy right?

Ty ty ^-^

Last question should I swap out the XF5s on essex for another fighter?

[fair lance]

It’s not that going 1 at a time is bad, it’s more of the fact that you didn’t choose very good equipment to upgrade past +10, when in doubt ask if it’s worth it or do “/plus13” in bot command channel for a more clear answer.

[proper violet]

I have z23 with aug and shi, should I aug Javelin/Laffey?

[old laurel]

Ahhhhh okay, thank you. I was recommended staag and the XF5s, I did have the radar tower in NJ but swapped it for the control console since its finally back

[fair lance]

Also if you +11 go straight to 13 on that same item rather than spread them like with your catapults.

[old laurel]

Gotcha +10 into +13, no in-betweens. ^-^

[proper violet]

Is it recommended to aug javelin/laffey?

[fair lance]

Nah I’d rather have saved the gold plates for a twin 76mm in the future than using them on staag.

[old laurel]

Ah gotcha, im saving up parts from OS for the 76mm now, only reason I haven't used it over staag yet

[fair lance]

The upgrades aren’t linear from +11 to +13 so higher upgrades give more of an impact especially weapons.

[hollow gust]

Not worth it , they are replaceable

[proper violet]

Awe ok ty

[old laurel]

Ahhh gotcha, this will definitely help then getting past Chapter 13. My A fleet can pass without deaths but B fleet is still struggling a little

[fair lance]

You don’t need any +13 gear for w13 probably a ship selection or choice of gear.

[old laurel]

Oof x.x probably my ships then. Im using a pseudo tank for B fleet, Montpelier

[proper violet]

Roast my fleet (help suggest any changes)

[soft raft]

Monty only works as mob tank (after aug)

What does your 2nd fleet even look like anyway?

[old laurel]

A fleet is Van: Anchorage, San Diago, Eldridge. Main, NJ flagship, Essex, Independence.

B Fleet Van: Montpelier, Laffey Retro, Baltimore
Main: Kears Flagship, Enterprise, Yorktown II

[soft raft]

Where did Unicorn go 💀
Also is A or B supposed to be boss fleet?

[fair lance]

Is kear and york2 mlb?

[old laurel]

So I only just got unicorn the other day, just never got lucky for her to drop and I usually run B for mobs, A for boss. I had Helena in A but I felt she just wasn't getting as much value. Didn't see a difference in boss kill times

[old laurel]

And yes both are

[soft raft]

Never got her to drop
Bro she has been avaliable in guild shop from day one, how did you not get her from there

[old laurel]

I keep forgetting the guild shop is a thing fffffff x.x

[soft raft]

[old laurel]

Im also in dead guild atm so no operations are ever up, only the weekly gets me guild points

But thats my fault cause I don't wanna leave cause irl friends

[ivory pawn]

Should get whoever's the owner to hop back on for a sec and make you an officer or whatever.

[kindred bloom]

Can someone help me?
I can buy one meta girl from the shop and dont know wich one

[vast ore]

Is Lexington 2 even worth the bulins if my only good main fleet EU ships are essex retrofit and independence

[old laurel]

Ill probably just have to leave at some point realistically, just nostalgia and being with friends makes it a bit difficult

[vast ore]

None of them are amazing but the catgirls are ok

[old laurel]

But I've rambled enough, ty for all the tips and advice! Alot of reworking to do. Happy new year all!

[soft raft]

They're all tech/collection fodder
very low priority, just get whoever you want

[kindred bloom]

Ok thx^^

[ivory pawn]

It depends on what URs you have, both MLB and non-MLB.

[stone sluice]

Is +13 on the Twin 76mm UR AA gun unnecessary as well?

[fair lance]

It’s the most worth while AA gun to +13

[vast ore]

I got Hakuhou Shinano Essex Eldridge and San Diego i think at mlb

[ivory pawn]

I'd hold off on MLBing Lexii then personally.

[vast ore]

Yeah was leaning towards that too, thanx

[rain bobcat]

its basically the only AA gun you want to spend gold plates on

[low basin]

Helloo! What armor does this enemy have? Also where do you guys usually look for information about enemies?

[inner delta]

information about enemy is external source, unfort i dont have the link with me. That enemy iirc is heavy

[soft raft]

IE use AP ammunition
or converging TBs (with a slow) if you're using CVs

[polar lion]

Is it wurf to get moar Plyguns?

[forest palm]

how many do you have?

[polar lion]

Half way on my 6th

[sharp socket]

i think thats enough plyguns

[forest palm]

overall mat cost isn't that big, the biggest hitch is that it costs T3 Ords

[polar lion]

I can liek craft 92 T3s with my gold T2s atm

[woeful sluice]

Should I still get the flandre gun from the proto shop if I can craft it 4 times already?

[ivory pawn]

No, you don't need more than 3.

[forest palm]

at most you'd be slotting them as BB secondaries, with how many you have

[woeful sluice]

so 2 champagne guns should also be enough right?

[polar lion]

I hav the 5 Plyguns on all my BBs I use in Opsi. Thinking maybe I could add 2 - 3 moar for maybe Helena, Ply herself and KirovM which I also use pretty often when bossing

[forest palm]

then just make 3 an leave it at that for now

[fair lance]

You only need a combination of 3 champagne and flandre guns, but with mecklenburg gun out strive for that at the end.

[polar lion]

Sure. Wurf to +13 them or just leave it at +10?

[forest palm]

leave at 10 imo

[fair lance]

If you have all the relevant BB guns at +13 you can look into getting ply guns to +13 but only for vanguards.

[polar lion]

Aight

Yea I hav all the meta guns +13 except maybe Meck guns. Not sure how many I wanna +13 those yet

[forest palm]

I'd sit on Gold Main Gun plates for the Quad 305

[heavy zealot]

Hmmm do i get cl UR gun or dd UR gun

[fair lance]

It would be more worth it to +13 meck guns than ply in that case but you can wait till you need it for a meta showdown.

[polar lion]

Yea I've allocated 1080 gun gold plates aside for 3 Meck guns in case I did wanna +13 them down the line

[stark quiver]

sure if you have the resources too
having more just means less gear swapping

[ivory sigil]

i had craft them all, but here are some new thing today are they worth craft?

[rain bobcat]

I have 10

[forest palm]

I have 12...

[rain bobcat]

I just dumped all my t3 ord on it

[stark quiver]

nice one

[rain bobcat]

went from 5 to 10

[forest palm]

12 feels pretty satisfying amount for me

[stark quiver]

i might craft a few more to test out jitsuu meta

[fair lance]

If you don’t have Admiralty tables and don’t have 1 high standard performance radar for your BBs you can craft that the others are kind of meh iirc.

[stark quiver]

does opsi give affinity

[ivory sigil]

hmm is the one below HSFCR are gouden lew gun? Cuz i just took a peek into the quicky gear and found something in CB list
not sure if i had any CB tho

[ivory pawn]

If you don't have any CB, don't bother crafting it. At least while it's blueprints its not taking up depot space.

Craft it when you need it, don't craft it to craft it.

[forest palm]

no

[stark quiver]

shit ass game mode

[ivory sigil]

hmmm CB soon (TM) /
i could touch guam perhaps "next year" but would she use gouden weapon lol??

[forest palm]

I had a 50 Aff Lv 120 JdA for the longest time

[stark quiver]

lol

[whole crypt]

Guam should just use Guam gun which you'll get from the same event, there's almost no reason to craft GL gun unless it's for GL

[polar lion]

What is GL good at?

[ivory sigil]

dry

[fickle parcel]

14-3 Hard clear setup please.

[whole crypt]

AA, tanking, has a special "airstrike" attack

[stark quiver]

avi stat pad

[ivory sigil]

She had the thing called global airstrike right? I think i did see that after press test her in PR background

[polar lion]

Wait avi stat pad?

[forest palm]

basically when you need to fill for HM

I use Shirakami Fubuki for that reason from time to time

[polar lion]

But GL dun hav avi stat? At least from what I saw on wiki

[ivory pawn]

Read her skills on the wiki.

[forest palm]

it's a bit wonky that it's like that

[polar lion]

Owh I see

[stark quiver]

nah fam

she has 700 avi

[forest palm]

@ dev 30

[rain bobcat]

GL is a massive stat pad

[forest palm]

though I don't remember where, or if you can see the 700 avi in game

[rain bobcat]

hidden skill due to her bombing skill iirc

it scales off avi, and the game gives her 700 avi by default

[forest palm]

would be nice if they just showed it, and made these things less confusing

[rain bobcat]

[forest palm]

the funnier one is having to explain that they're hidden modiffiers based on hull type in PvP

[stark quiver]

[polar lion]

What is the interval for these bombing raids?

[ivory pawn]

About 12s ish.

[polar lion]

Owh it just drop bombs. Guess they can't intercept

[ivory pawn]

Also btw. The AVI from her skill doesn't appear to count for HM requirements.

[forest palm]

well that's silly

[polar lion]

Welp there goes stat padding use case

[stark quiver]

damn bro she sucks ass

[whole crypt]

she has 0 AVI

[stark quiver]

only in sortie then

[whole crypt]

yes

i.e. you cannot use her for AVI stat reqs for HM

her AVI is only applied during fights from her hidden skill

[next escarp]

Grinding is hard when everything depends on RNG

Do we have specific location in grinding purple parts for AUX gesr only?

[whole crypt]

the grinding part isn't hard it's just repeating until RNG succumbs

[weary gust]

There is no grinding for specific plates. Only places you can choose are when they pop up in the stores (and the 20 free weekly purple selectors)

[next escarp]

I've wasted 10k oil for purple aux parts. I only got like 100 plus

Do my luck sucks

[whole crypt]

parts are a long term grind

also make sure you're doing it somewhere with oil cap

[stark quiver]

i dont even know where they come from

[weary gust]

I have never tracked how much oil per purple aux plate I get but 10k for 100 sounds about the right order of magnitude for the average you'd get.

[next escarp]

What does the oil cap for?

[whole crypt]

event D maps and regular campaign from ch9 and above after you clear the stage you can run it with a capped oil cost

if you've been grinding for purple plates outside of these stages you're wasting oil

[next escarp]

I've also been lvling ships for my second fleet

[whole crypt]

also plates are pretty much just a byproduct of grinding as long as you keep playing

[next escarp]

I'm currently grinding at D3 event map

I use 2 ships for main and 2 ships for vanguard

Meh, my luck must be the problem

[wind hazel]

use full fleet

[polar lion]

People hav problem with purple plates? I thot gray plates was moar common of a problem

[weary gust]

Purple aux plates are the main limiting ingredient for gearing lots of ships.
Also can you please stop talking like a baby?

[wind hazel]

new players or power fleeters will always have purple aux plates problem

[weary gust]

I've got 20k+ of every purple plate except purple aux plates which I am perpetually under 2k.

[sweet delta]

Cannot confirm, I am a fleet powerer new player and I have 60k of each purple plates

[wind hazel]

you have unenhanced goldburn, you cannot talk on this topic

[forest palm]

[vast sparrow]

Is there a list of all Dual Purpose guns?

[viscid swift]

dual purpose guns don't exist in AL

at least in the functional sense

[forest palm]

410 can hit planes

[vast sparrow]

No like the same gun images but in different function

[viscid swift]

depends on what you classify as the same image but I don't think there's a list still

[soft raft]

Would there even be enough of those kinds of cases to even warrant a proper list that isnt just text

[forest palm]

Fuze Guns, I guess

[uneven cave]

What’s the highest prio gear atm that needs T3 ords

[whole crypt]

it's practically a dual purpose gun, helps AA while being used for not getting MVP

[next escarp]

What does ARA mean?

Got it, nvm

[uneven cave]

Atago voiceline

[vast sparrow]

the hek is this

reversed damage type

[whole crypt]

that's not a dual purpose weapon those are completely different weapons though

[forest palm]

Tenrai → 457 → Quad 152 → Spearfish ~ 234 imo

[uneven cave]

Aight time to spam quad 152

[whole crypt]

and there are only very limited examples of gear like that, most use different icons

[vast sparrow]

Only the Single 102 and Twin 134 are DP that i know

[whole crypt]

there's practically no dual purpose weapons in this game

how best to adjust this

[forest palm]

as much as I love using BBs, I so do wish there were more tools for it

[vast sparrow]

time to scrap every fukcing Oxygen Torps to replace with the G7e

[viscid swift]

what

[whole crypt]

if you're using T95kais they're still better than G7ekais

at least in some cases

[viscid swift]

not like you can recover the mats needed anyway to reinvest them in G7es

[uneven cave]

I literally made 2 t95 for i404 just before the gear lab update, pls tell me it’s still better than g7e

[whole crypt]

stiggy said it's still better than G7eK for bossing

[uneven cave]

😌

[whole crypt]

also G7eK is ironically worse for wolfpacks

[vast sparrow]

i have like 8 Red Bidders, 1 Ferry for some reason, 6 Oxy Torps, 9 Aux Oxy Torp

[wind hazel]

i've tried every possible combination and still cannot find a clean one

[whole crypt]

I'm now under the impression that bis/meck/lion will always jam using meck guns

[wind hazel]

dev will release bismarck drei with 2 salvo capacity to solve this

[knotty jolt]

purple and gold baltimore guns are another example. One he the other AP

[viscid swift]

that's not dual purpose

[hollow gust]

i mean just fuck over bismarck , less of a problem then fucking over the dps

[knotty jolt]

Oh am I thinking of the wrong thing?

[viscid swift]

dual purpose guns IRL were guns that could be used in the anti shipping and anti air role

[knotty jolt]

I'm just glossing through to recap what has been said

[viscid swift]

yes but those aren't DP guns

[rain bobcat]

triple meck gun

[whole crypt]

this is triple meck gun

[rain bobcat]

and give lion +6autoloader

lion has to fire first so she doesn't jam like shit

[clear harbor]

Hello AL braintrust. I finished researching Plymouth. My dock is largely the same as it was here #1448015331489611876 message, but now LexII, Cowpens, Clarance, and Willy D. Any particular PR or DR I should work on next?

[whole crypt]

you were saying?

[wind hazel]

shimanto

[vast sparrow]

ive heard that to put the Twin 550 on Willy

[rain bobcat]

I don't see the issue with it, they still get 4 strikes and it's not like 0 jam would somehow make meck bis shoot 5, raff gun and triple meck gun

[viscid swift]

when you're not trying to sync the flagship buff yes

[whole crypt]

lmao I missed PvP refresh mucking with this shit

[slow fox]

-# eww damagemaxxing

[rapid grail]

any other sources for this bote other than collection?

[whole crypt]

once you unlock her in collection she's added to the light pool

[rapid grail]

ah, aight. was about to retrofit

[whole crypt]

unless you scrapped her then LB/retrofit can be done with bulins anyway

[cloud forge]

fellas who is this

[stark quiver]

strasbourg

[cloud forge]

ty

[rigid onyx]

alviter no?

[stark quiver]

wait is it

[rigid onyx]

alvitir

[stark quiver]

yes
@cloud forge shes alvitir

[ivory pawn]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Alvitr

[slow fox]

-# strasbourg

[polar lion]

How to get affinity gifts for the girls?

[ivory pawn]

Play the Island Planner game mode.

[polar lion]

Oof

[viscid swift]

grinding normally would unironically be faster thn grinding that forsaken node

[whole crypt]

1-1C fastest

[cloud forge]

Thank you!

[whole crypt]

island is good for faming up the gifts when you don't have ships to raise affinity and are just preparing to 0hour oath a new ship

[rain bobcat]

cant read japanese case number 1 www

[sweet delta]

I use mumu player

[rain bobcat]

suchi do you need +13 spearfish for the 14-4 thing you did

[sweet delta]

I haven't touched 14h since day 2 of its release

[rain bobcat]

if ppl play it solely for gifts do they even get 50 gifts at a relatively ok rate each time?

[onyx jacinth]

Any serial code active for new players?

[viscid swift]

No

[forest palm]

AL doesn't do codes

[onyx jacinth]

Well then i am so cooked 7 days left and i can't hit 200 in Lexington II , i am still in 141 build

[stark quiver]

[onyx jacinth]

Does UR exchange pity carryover to next?

[stark quiver]

No

[onyx jacinth]

Well then there goes my UR

[onyx flame]

still got a week

[onyx jacinth]

Is the SP and EX stage time locked or i need to level up more?

[onyx flame]

clear d3

[onyx jacinth]

Hard mode?

[hollow gust]

D3 is part of B3, you need to switch it

[uneven cave]

Does wdp want a barrage gun or an actually decent gun

[onyx flame]

you get like 16? gifts a month max cause its limited and timegated

[rain bobcat]

useless

[soft raft]

/hardmode in case you dont know how to acess D3

[odd root]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/460648604974055424/1322138175426269215/image0.png

[viscid swift]

we might wanna rename the command and add more details to just explain how to access SP at this point

[whole crypt]

there's a small handful of the better item under some milestones in island but yeh overall you're not getting much each month

so 404 does hit harder than flasher when she does

[cobalt gate]

chap 14 was subs and suicide right?

[whole crypt]

yeh

[viscid swift]

among other threats

[whole crypt]

like BBs that like to erase your main fleet

[hallow spoke]

Eldridge retrofit worth it?

[ivory pawn]

Do you have the item? If so, once retrofitted she's one of the best ships in the game.

[hallow spoke]

By the end of this week I can prob finish retrofitting my Sandy

I finished unicorn already, sandy is a long way but still doable. Raff needs last lb

Pain

[onyx flame]

you can hold off on sandy retro ngl

[hallow spoke]

Hm? Why

I can get my UR bulin tmrw and another from proto shop which I'm like pretty close to

[viscid swift]

it's expensive

[hallow spoke]

In terms of?

[viscid swift]

I'd go so far as to call it a finanical burden if you're not already in W12

[viscid swift]

everything

[cobalt gate]

so i can't use clear mode to get defeat all enemies right?

[atomic vortex]

The HVAR worth grinding?

[viscid swift]

you can

[hallow spoke]

Well the bulins are the easy part, I have her mic already, I just need the blueprints

[viscid swift]

it's 60k coins almost plus another 21k for her augment

[hallow spoke]

I have her augment

[viscid swift]

she's usable with just her augment

[proper violet]

Some earlier stages cant, rest can

[hallow spoke]

Gold augment fully enhanced

[viscid swift]

best to leave her retrofit until after you get to w12

[cobalt gate]

nice, going to wait to do that for hard level then

[hallow spoke]

What is w12

[viscid swift]

when you actually have the coins and other resources to spare for her

[hollow gust]

I think 404 only wins in single target bosses

[proper violet]

Also hardmode no mobs

[viscid swift]

chapter 12 of the main campaign

[hallow spoke]

I'm at w8 lol

[cobalt gate]

so auto done at hard mode?

[proper violet]

W8 you can def clear mode to get the kills

[viscid swift]

up to you

I'd personally say no if you're not looking to min max and only if you can afford to do so

[viscid swift]

then stop work on her retrofit

[whole crypt]

well that was this month's harb

[hallow spoke]

Hm Im almost there, but what do I work on then

[viscid swift]

there are a lot of better places you can put those coins right now

[cobalt gate]

ugh i keep forgetting no subs in hard mode

[viscid swift]

enhancing gear, limit breaking ships, awakening ships mainly at this stage

research as well

[cobalt gate]

feels like almost no place to use subs at endgame

[hallow spoke]

Oh my research is full for pr8 for the gear

[cobalt gate]

until chap 16 comes out

[viscid swift]

yeah get to W9 at least first then you're gonna start work on getting a 2nd fleet up

[hallow spoke]

Hmmmm, who would I use as my 2nd fleet. My first fleet is prob staying as my mob

[viscid swift]

you'll mix and match

[hallow spoke]

I can MLB my raff, that'll be good choice right?

[viscid swift]

you're gonna need to level up some other ships though

[viscid swift]

yes

[hallow spoke]

Yea that's fine I have like 30k oil in my mailbox 😭😭

[cobalt gate]

use the exp books

[viscid swift]

that's really not a lot

[hallow spoke]

And like 400 exp books

[viscid swift]

yeah save those when you start leveling up low level ships

[hallow spoke]

I spent so much on event

Do I even wanna try to get a copy of William d porter

[cobalt gate]

oh i just realize they realesed lexington for hard 14

[hallow spoke]

Or is it like not worth it

[viscid swift]

uh yes, it's a free UR

[hallow spoke]

K I'm at 106

Both copies? Or single

[viscid swift]

at least one copy

[hallow spoke]

As the UR bulins are time gated

[hallow spoke]

Alr

[viscid swift]

2 if you can though don't sweat it too much if you can't

[hallow spoke]

My highest is d1

[viscid swift]

keep grinding there then

[hallow spoke]

I can't go above that bc 2nd fleet not enough levels

So I might need to build a second fleet

[viscid swift]

you will, what else have you got to work with

[hallow spoke]

I got a copy of Lexington 2 aswell

My dock rn, and I need to increase dock capacity like hell

[viscid swift]

what about your purples

[hallow spoke]

I need dock capacity, where do I get that other than my shop

[viscid swift]

start getting Helena, Glowworm, Scylla, and Saratoga leveled up
fleets will look something like
Mob: Rossiya, Unicorn, Cowpens, Montpelier, Scylla, Glowworm retrofit
Boss: Raffello, Saratoga, Enterprise, Bolzano META, Helena, San Diego

[hallow spoke]

Idk wth this is

[viscid swift]

you can get up to 30 additional slots from Guild tech

[hallow spoke]

Copied

[viscid swift]

that's the core data shop(limited)

[hallow spoke]

Where else?

[hallow spoke]

Do I just keep saving

[viscid swift]

no where else, that's it

[hallow spoke]

F

[viscid swift]

get a white shell then an admiralty fire control table

ignore the Black Shell, that's moved all the way into situationally useful

[hallow spoke]

There's no white shell in shop?

[soft raft]

Core Data shop

[cobalt gate]

the monthly one beside it

[hallow spoke]

Ah I see it

Who do I give it to, i enhanced it to 10

[cobalt gate]

its for bb

[hallow spoke]

Raff then

Should I start leveling my 2nd fleet rn? Or do I wait till w9

[cobalt gate]

should start, since you will be using 2 fleets already

btw is the only reason to put musashi in the middle due to her straight line barrage? her defense skill seems to not want her to be flag ship

[viscid swift]

it's an or not an and
When the battle starts, if this ship is NOT your Flagship OR your Airspace Control status is not Air Incapability or Air Denial: reduces this ship's DMG taken by 10% (30%) in that battle.

[cobalt gate]

ahh

[hallow spoke]

Okay so I'ma start leveling

[kind steeple]

can i only use same ships to limitbreak ur ships?

[forest palm]

there's UR Bulins you can use

[viscid swift]

you can also use UR Bullins

[kind steeple]

its always bulins and bulins and a bunch or bulins

[hallow spoke]

Retrofit Helena?

[kind steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/war-1000-yard-stare-gif-10147302364842942579

[viscid swift]

not a priority

[soft raft]

Fairly low priority
Only real use for Helena's retrofit is that now you can use SG Radar to maintain sync wiht BBs using the rainbow table or the HSFCR

[hallow spoke]

I just used all my exp book and get the people you need me to level to 70....

[soft raft]

Helena's still good tho so dont worry about it too much

[hallow spoke]

Well no it's mainly for my 2nd fleet

[hallow spoke]

That basically

[viscid swift]

Work on getting them limit broken and leveled up in the event

[hallow spoke]

Yep

[whole crypt]

oracles of GPH I beseech you
BB antiheavy
USS antilight
SoyNak antimed
does musashi sound like it'll fit in BB and I divert Lion to mobbing duty, plus no room for Alsace

[viscid swift]

No, no

Not that it matters but if I wanted to optimize again I'd do

Pick BBs or US cvs for light and IJN CVs on heavy armor

On paper the advantage BBs have is mainly in an 80 second fight

[whole crypt]

well Bis/Meck/Lion with subs maimed Hermit by second round

[whole crypt]

I wanted to avoid using IJN CV because lol xf

but then again that also means USS anti-light is also dead

back to the drawing board

[forest palm]

hasn't USS comp been dead for a while now

like between Fritz, and Lion surely they alone just killed it

[hallow spoke]

Check hero her abilities don't sound that bad

[viscid swift]

Who

[hallow spoke]

Idk she's literally called hero, purple

[viscid swift]

She's shit

[whole crypt]

well I wanted to go back to the idea since it's tempy next month but the fact it kills one fleet slot for xf is sad

[hallow spoke]

Lol

How do y'all check if a ship is good or not, lowk I'm reading through all of it and she seems half decent

[whole crypt]

I guess it does save me the trouble of regearing LexII between PvP and OS

[rain bobcat]

pretty sure they'll still do more than sonaru on med

[viscid swift]

I let others do the in depth analysis mainly since memorizing and comparing stats isn't my forte

[rain bobcat]

just let sonaru rot and use it for cross

[whole crypt]

yeh but sonaru works on light as well if you're compressing xf slotting

USS fleet is completely dead for xf

[hallow spoke]

Well you do most of the summarizing

[viscid swift]

Anyway though after a quick refresher nothing about her stats or skills stand out

[hallow spoke]

Alr

[whole crypt]

to be fair you could just use BisMeckLion for everything but I don't want to swap guns

[wind hazel]

why do you even wanna use EU

[whole crypt]

it was just an intrusive thought now that we have Lex II

but I guess she's staying in PvP

[forest palm]

I've been just using HKHO + AMGI + IMP for Med + Heavy, and BZ + Lion + ALSC/Meck for Light

[hot turret]

Yay I managed to pull Lexington II again, 1 free Limit Break I don't have to worry about

[viscid swift]

Well it mainly the damage and eHP calcs others handle

[whole crypt]

unless you're still trying to pull other event ships stop pulling for dupes

[hallow spoke]

I swear even if I hit late game, I'm never gonna have this knowledge

[wind hazel]

most of us dont

[hot turret]

I need it for limit breaks, it's rly hard to get UR bulins as a casual player and I'm sitting on a ton of unusable stock URs

[uneven knot]

after second wyvern what would u guys recommend?

[viscid swift]

Tbf, not like getting 5k specialized cores a month takes that much grinding

[viscid swift]

Some UR AA guns if you have any ambitions for w15

[uneven knot]

bet i was thinking the same, i just started w13 and the plane spam is crazy

[ivory pawn]

Use BisMeckLion with Meck & Champy guns for Heavy and Med, and USS fleet for Light. Bam, no swapping gears.

[wind hazel]

lion has pvp duty, there will be gear swapping

[stark quiver]

does jp have their own pvp meta sheet

[whole crypt]

if you have enough cubes for coming banners I guess?

[whole crypt]

huh

[stark quiver]

does*

[whole crypt]

not that I know of, the top end PvP comps end up looking similar if not completely the same across all regions

[summer patio]

How do I get rid of my coins cap? Like I wanna save up for stuff but at around 22000 I reach the cap

[whole crypt]

JP most of the time just copies homework from CN anyway

[whole crypt]

the cap you see is a soft cap, it goes up as you level up and also when you upgrade merchant
you can stock past this amount through commissions and sorties etc but you can't collect merchant when you're over
as a new player you don't have much choice besides to stock when possible but at 22000cap you're likely not looking at much in the way or earning either

[stark quiver]

bro is there a way to make oumi not fire her ghost gun

[summer patio]

So basically I'm gonna get rid of it? Really cool, but till then, I just do 10-pulls? Or how do I stock up for more?

[whole crypt]

you earn coins through commissions and there are also coin drops when you sortie, the amount isn't much until you reach at least ch9 for campaign or if you can manage D maps on events

later in the game sorties will net you more coins than just waiting for merchant but for now you just have to wait before you level up

[summer patio]

Aight!! Thank youu : ))). So 10-pulls it is?

[whole crypt]

if you're not yet done with the event banner sure

if you are then look for other things to spend on, like LBing your ships or enhancing your gear

it may look bad at cap but basically everything uses coins as you go up, so stalling for a bit isn't really a problem

you just want to avoid losing merchant income from the merchant storage capping for too long earlier on

[ivory sigil]

hmm i think this question is abit unnecessary but.... i should claim this "next year" right?

[wind hazel]

doesnt matter if you play daily

[stark quiver]

you can

[stable bloom]

generally is retrofit helena better than meta helena?

i guess obviously it depends what you are using it for

[wind hazel]

due to her skill, she's the better ship yes

[whole crypt]

Helena META basically has no practical function where she performs better than Helena retrofit, or even Helena base when it comes to buffing boss fleets
there is like a small number of showdowns that have some use for METAs where Helena META may be useful

[summer patio]

Guys I got her is she any good?

[stable bloom]

Yeah I always use her for boss fights in main campaign

[summer patio]

So she's some sort of boss killer?

[whole crypt]

Enterprise is basically the the vanilla standard for bossing CVs

[stable bloom]

yeah she's good and also really good in pvp because of lucky E skill

[whole crypt]

lucky E has been dead in PvP for ages

[summer patio]

Should I use her in my deck?

[whole crypt]

you can, depends on what else you have

[stable bloom]

if you are just starting it's still nice to use

[soft raft]

Yes
Also give this a read if you havent already, lots of good info here https://www.azurlaneecgc.com/newbie_tips/

[whole crypt]

as a newer player a low level, not MLB Enterprise won't save you from anything remotely hard in PvP

[summer patio]

I'm using Pennsylvania, Unicorn and Cowpens

[whole crypt]

eh, in that case just park Enterprise for now

[summer patio]

I did pvp like once and never sgain LoL

[stable bloom]

yeah true she gets annihilated

[whole crypt]

or you can replace Cowpens and level her later

[summer patio]

Okk, thank youu!!

[wind hazel]

no, leave enterprise for 2nd fleet. cowpens is better

[whole crypt]

for new players unless you care about the PvP winrate just smash yourself into stronger players for XP and merits

[summer patio]

Right I forgot second fleets existed

[soft raft]

Dont bother with a 2nd fleet until at earliest W9

[stable bloom]

i dont focus pvp much i just generally use bismarck zwei, musashi, friedrich as main and anchorage, shimakaze and laffey II as vanguard

[summer patio]

Won't this kill the mood of my shipgirls?

[soft raft]

you DO NOT have the resources to do that early game, esp when you're struggling to raise just 6 ships in the first place

[whole crypt]

losing in PvP doesn't affect morale

[summer patio]

Okk

[wind hazel]

more like, pvp doesn't affect morale at all

[stable bloom]

the only point of it really is for merits

its another currency u can use to buy stuff from the merit shop

[wind hazel]

yes, merit good

[stable bloom]

i hardly ever use them though i have like 1.3 million merits 💀

[wind hazel]

buy bulin and mlb your ships

[onyx flame]

Check for cubes

[stable bloom]

honestly i never need to because my weekly rewards keep it sustainable and i like having port space for enhancement

[whole crypt]

I was tempted to say that's a rookie number but I think I'm only at around 2mil

[wind hazel]

you maxed out most of your SR ships?

[stable bloom]

yeah when u are over lvl 100 it honestly stops being important

[whole crypt]

it's less of the level and more of how many bulins do you still need

[stable bloom]

yeah but i would say i dont have a lot compared to most people because i did skip like an event or two

[wind hazel]

impressive. very nice

[stable bloom]

i dont even have lion but she looks really strong so kinda sucks i missed that