gameplay-help

[split bramble]

Yep

[onyx flame]

usually you have loads of stuff to enhance

[split bramble]

Yeah if you are new or start of a new event

[white venture]

how can I improve my 14-3H fleet? bbs killing my main is aanoying

[dim tundra]

fair

[dim tundra]

yeah I do

[hollow gust]

whats even dying? im assuming the boss fleet? Cause shimakaze and Kearage are not very good choices

[atomic abyss]

if BBs are killing your main, fire supressors

[white venture]

mob ofc? boss too

[atomic abyss]

also yes maybe not use kears

anyways fire supressors help a lot in w14

whether in normal or hard

[white venture]

Like this?

[hollow gust]

more damage in that frontline would help alot in mob, and soyuz nahk just doesnt feel that good in mobbing

[viscid swift]

super tanky vanguards and high damage healers in the main fleet and good staggering produces the most consistent results in W14-H for mobs

[wind hazel]

use raff, use another healer like cowpens or aquila or volga, put her top, unicorn bottom. drop guam, move eldridge mob or z52, laf2 tank

[split bramble]

Using 2 healers would help too

[viscid swift]

you don't need Raff for the BB, Lion also works

[wind hazel]

you dont need lion for the bb, raff also works

[white agate]

use both

[wind hazel]

you can use raff/lion/musashi

[viscid swift]

my point is that you don't need 3 healers for the mob fleet

[wind hazel]

i prefer lion on boss though

[wind hazel]

if it guarantees your mob won't die full clearing i dont see why not. not that im disagreeing that lion isnt working, just that using raff is also an option. not "don't need" raff

[viscid swift]

except it doesn't though

Suchi literally cleared all the mobs in 14-4H with one fleet without using 3 bloody healers

[wind hazel]

are you reading my words correctly or not

[viscid swift]

and so have most of the other 3 star lethal clears for that matter

I did, and I'm saying your asseration that 3 healers does not gurantee your mob fleet won't die full clearing

[wind hazel]

have you tried it?

also just because suchi did it, doesn't mean other people can copy and produce same result

[viscid swift]

let me rephrase that, there are plenty of set ups that gurantee such a thing without using 3 healers

[wind hazel]

and i am not disagreeing with that

[viscid swift]

and the point isn't the healing anyway

maintaining conceal and efficiently wave clearing enemies more than anything else is what gurantees a smooth lethal 3 star

[wind hazel]

yes part of the success is killing them before they kill you, i know

[viscid swift]

that's why Lion is so overtuned for lethal 3 star, her burn can easily take out subs and suicide boats when you're out of ammo

[wind hazel]

sustaining your fleet is also a strat, you know

[viscid swift]

it means jack if you can't keep your fleet concealed and safe from enemy BBs

[hollow gust]

[viscid swift]

trust me, I tried with the Musashi, Unicorn, Aquila

[wind hazel]

ok but have you tried it or not

musashi doesnt sound like raffaello to me

[viscid swift]

it went a lot more poorly than the other set ups which finished with their ships with plenty of HP to spare

[wind hazel]

i agree, musashi kinda suck ballz, magnet and die really fast

[viscid swift]

the issue wasn't Musashi, it was Aquila

[wind hazel]

~_~ but that doesn't sound like what im suggesting...

[undone plover]

Lion worked better in mob for me too than raffa
But then my boss fleet suffered
Her burn is too busted

[viscid swift]

anyway, I'm not saying the fleet doesn't work

[wind hazel]

the guy can't even clear lol, i dont think we're talking about full lethal clear here

[viscid swift]

I'm saying the implications that the fleet is the best is cock and balls

[wind hazel]

just give him any working fleet

[viscid swift]

Raff is far from the only option here

[wind hazel]

I KNOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWW

why are you so insistent on saying like raff isn't an option

[hollow gust]

i got 2 lions, poor people problems

[wind hazel]

nobody here is saying raff is a must

i suggested raff, you can suggest lion

[viscid swift]

the way you worded it originally sounded like it was, nothing more to it

[wind hazel]

i merely gave a fleet suggestion ffs

you're reading way too deep on a simple template, because that's what i used and it worked for me

[undone plover]

W14h released one day
Gph community already in shambles

[viscid swift]

and I'm saying there's more than one comp that works

[robust plinth]

unlocking sp event needs all staged to be 3 stars?

[wind hazel]

yes and i am agreeing with that statement

[viscid swift]

no, just clear D3

[hollow gust]

no creativity these days, rainbowrot is real

[undone plover]

[viscid swift]

well excuse me if I don't like to waste oil on failed runs

[wind hazel]

but it worked for me????

[undone plover]

Tbh yeah lack of testing grounds is annoying
I wasted 5k oil and have nothing to show for it

[viscid swift]

not you

[viscid swift]

for the last time, did I ever say it didn't fucking work

[wind hazel]

no, but im so confused by what you're saying now

[undone plover]

Guys relax
U are both too veteran for this stupid argument

[wind hazel]

also i just hope you can see how stupid what you were saying here

[undone plover]

Shake hands and kiss

[viscid swift]

what I said originally, that you don't need 3 healers and Raff is far from being the single best option here

[dusk dirge]

Who is best to max first, Potter or LexII assuming I have all the other UR at max.

[wind hazel]

should have worded it like "lion works better"

[undone plover]

Both kinda work in the same fleet meta wise tbh
for campaign they are also both overall decent

[wind hazel]

i'd go lexii first

[viscid swift]

anyway, what have you got to work with

[white venture]

every ship except neptnias

[wind hazel]

ngl but suchi dropped the fleet for him to use, he's asking for 2nd time now

[viscid swift]

sigh

[wind hazel]

tho the 2nd fleet is missing

[viscid swift]

you can try Lion, Raffello, Unicorn, Laffey 2, Shimanto/Bayard, Eldridge

just make sure your main fleets are staggered well enough, that you're maintaining concal, and that you're not leaking planes

also beef up your boss fleet vanguard, looks like way too much RNG for it to live consistently for my taste

[subtle ivy]

For the anticipated guam & lafII rerun in January, is the second UR in the shop the way they are for their debut?

[wind hazel]

we dont know

[viscid swift]

probably

[subtle ivy]

ty

[wind hazel]

this gonna be the first shop rerun so everything is first time for everyone

[subtle ivy]

thanks, fingers crossed for the devs to be kind, then

[wind hazel]

maybe slip the 2nd copy on milestone

[soft raft]

would be funny

[white venture]

RNG?

[viscid swift]

random number generator, luck

[soft raft]

Random Number Generator
IE shit's gonna be random

[white venture]

i know what rng means thanks. there is just too much bullshit in 14th chapter. especiaslly on boss

[viscid swift]

not particuarly, the principles are simple, just about the execution

[white agate]

double ur bulin milestone

[undone plover]

Watch your screen and reset till u beat it

[white venture]

by beef you mean CB?

there is only 1 slot for cb though

[viscid swift]

not necessarily, just someone tankier than Plymouth to main tank

Napoli for instance

[white venture]

there is no problem with boss vanguard surviveability now. problem that is main is f-g dying faster

[viscid swift]

what are you have trouble with

[viscid swift]

I know that

I mean in what nodes, and which fleet, mob or boss

[trail dagger]

You actually cannot regroud and rest in hard arbiter?

[white venture]

we talk about boss now

[soft raft]

yuh

[trail dagger]

[viscid swift]

same principles apply, stagger your main fleet properly so you're wave clearing and getting sucide boats before they reveal your main fleet, also make sure your AA is up to snub so you don't leak planes and get your main fleet revealed and shot at by enemy BBs

just watch the fight closely and adjust your fleet accordingly, that's the best advice

[mighty tulip]

As a new player, as soon as I get a ship to 70 should I tier 3 limit break them?

Lol thanks

[ivory sigil]

is there anyone i should consider spend SR bulin?
-# just my 5th week in AZ, but they already pile up and even kept 1 in mail
-# despite i even spend plenty of them on 6DAL + Sandy

[soft raft]

right now no not really

your best ships there that arent limit broken are the METAs but you cant use bullins on those

[ivory sigil]

-# most Fleettech want MLB stuff Elite ship, meanwhile newbie guide only mention Enty/Hood/Sandy.

[wind hazel]

good ships>fleet tech

[ivory sigil]

inb4 farm fox for mlb em
tbh i need cowpens to waste these sr Bulin

[hollow gust]

cause you are still new and poor despite the advantage of collab event , there is no reason to work on fleet tech yet

[tall kite]

Is it ever helpful to change formations?

[hollow gust]

Double Line works 99% of the time, you can switch to circle in pleane heavy worlds but thats it

[tall kite]

I was using single line this whole time

[hollow gust]

perfectly fine

[small quarry]

Where can I change my information on OP.SI 🤔 ?

[ivory sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/azur-lane-gif-25770903

[small quarry]

lol that's really good man, you made it 😂 😂 😂

[ivory sigil]

[small quarry]

If you have more GIFs about OP.SI feel free to send them, this stuff is hard.

[hollow gust]

Cheeky has his guide

That gif has been spammed here thousands of times at least

[viscid swift]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vRPJgxnXwC4r3Z8AlbzPUhHDXt0Dr7KP4TPriFnGafQrt1wE7Jb5AdRgfy8tXaLpTC-CtYAVMZgJE0g/pub

[peak fable]

are siren bosses (not arbiter) intended to be manual'd?

[knotty jolt]

Not really

While stronger then chaff enemies they still shouldn't be so hard you'd need to manual to survive

[peak fable]

what is content that is definitely intended to be manual'd? (I obviously understand that you can auto almost anything with the right setup, but still)

[knotty jolt]

EX runs and maybe a few others but they elude my mind

Tbh atleast with most sirens they have constant healthbars meaning whatever damage is dealt to them is permanent.

[atomic abyss]

Basically just EX mode

And any content you're struggling to survive really

So if your account is weaker

Then manual will help a lot say in w15

Which is auto-able

[whole crypt]

ch15 is easier than 14-4H so

[knotty jolt]

I'm genuinely actually having an ok time in ch15

[sweet delta]

so
now where is chapter 16

[knotty jolt]

only problem now is auto mode cause boss fleet keeps fighting and dies

Would it be advised to put like a healer in the boss fleet when auto clearing 15-4?

[whole crypt]

how hard 15 feels is heavily dependent on how much AA you manage to bring

if you have enough you don't see shit like Aquila suddenly vaporizing from a BB shot

[knotty jolt]

My problems lies in how my boss fleet can't survive 3 boss fights in a row

[whole crypt]

that's usually not the recommended setup for 14-4

[hollow gust]

It shouldn't

[wooden osprey]

i never knew,

[whole crypt]

the boss fleet is expected to do the 1st and 3rd boss fights only

[knotty jolt]

Not my fault, blame it on auto clear making it fight it 3 times ina row

[whole crypt]

eh if this is on auto at least you're not doing it with penalty

[undone plover]

my boss van also died with clear mode in ch15
aquila musashi backline
I think u can get bad rng until u lower threat or maybe need a better healer

[knotty jolt]

I'm genuinely contemplating putting like cowpens/zuihou or someone in the boss fleet

[whole crypt]

as it turns out we just got a better healer

[smoky grail]

does +13 one hits harder than this rainbow gun against current META

[knotty jolt]

my cowpens is still being worked on im being slow af

[hollow gust]

Cowpen truly the hidden gem of the event

[undone plover]

raffa gun is better even at +10 against medium i believe

[pulsar topaz]

Does Cowpens replace Aquilla?

[knotty jolt]

This was my fleet I used excluding zuihou, amagi CV was in that spot prior to this switch out

[hollow gust]

That's safe?

[knotty jolt]

it's on lethal still

[whole crypt]

887 vs 817.7

[knotty jolt]

I just finished out getting it to 100%

Yet to try it with zuihou in boss fleet

[undone plover]

do u know who died? backline or front?
I am guessing backline

[knotty jolt]

Backline iirc was genurally fine, the front just ends up dying slowly over the course of the 3 battles

[hollow gust]

Well duh ofc you can't full auto it

Safest is honestly just stopping before 2nd boss fight to switch your mob in

[whole crypt]

until you get danger levels down a fair bit yeh you're going to have to pause to swap fleets for second boss, unless you have a very strong boss fleet

[hollow gust]

Oh lethal it's pretty hard

[knotty jolt]

im so fucking lazy this is gonna be annoying

[whole crypt]

you just need to do it for a few runs to get the danger level down

you might even manage full auto before safe

[knotty jolt]

Will it be fine with zuihou 120

literally 2 cog arrays for the 125

[whole crypt]

125 will be safer, you're playing with penalties here

also just manually switch for like 10 runs at most and you'll be on safe

[knotty jolt]

ok dokie then

[undone plover]

Aquila worked for me one run
Full auto also lethal or -1 lethality
I had guam main tank
No eldridge

[knotty jolt]

Need more EVA tech imo

[pulsar topaz]

all I remember about 15 was that Guam and Laffey 2 trivialized any issues I had clearing them

[whole crypt]

AA powercreep is real

[sweet delta]

powercreep is real

[pulsar topaz]

now I wait for powercreep to solve my 14-H issues

[hollow gust]

Cowpen already does

[whole crypt]

is stig real

[hollow gust]

The timing is hilarious , they release w14h just late enough for people who have cowpen done early

[pulsar topaz]

is she a boss fleet healer or mob? I'm still raising her

[whole crypt]

I don't know if they actually intended it though because as far as we know the devs don't seem to know how the numbers work for their own game

[hollow gust]

Mob , w14 boss is just weird, swapping ships around fixes that

[wary skiff]

it took me enough runs to make 72000 event coins to grind out 2 hvar hellcats, is that average?

[whole crypt]

14 boss is just RNGing whether the BB maims you

[sweet delta]

i think they have at least one person making the meta showdowns just hard enough

[hollow gust]

Honestly that's quite quick

[whole crypt]

I have no idea how I managed to waste 8k oil mucking with it

but I guess the storage needs to go somewhere

[wary skiff]

~30-40kish oil worth and kinda tapped now so cant go for my third

[hollow gust]

Still find it hilarious how cheeky thought Yorky meta is a breeze

the hardest meta we had in a long time

[whole crypt]

is it?

[hollow gust]

Let's be honest , the last 3 metas have been a breeze

[whole crypt]

like it's been annoying with around 95+% oneshot rate but that's about it

[hollow gust]

As someone who really doesn't like Momo , it has been rough

[pulsar topaz]

I haven't had a frontline get close to death in a META fight for a while

[undone plover]

Wasnt it a breeze with kirov bug?

[hollow gust]

Fixed no?

[undone plover]

Or kursk sry

[undone plover]

Idk tbh
Probably
Just saying that is probably why cheeky said it was a breeze

[onyx flame]

i got 34 prints at 99k points thou i also do sp but thats better than me at least

[sweet delta]

i have 100% win rate

nagato or taihou was harder

[whole crypt]

momo?

[sweet delta]

sonaru lamotr

[wary skiff]

ya i did sp every day, think im done with the event for now and will grind out 2-4 more in the future

[whole crypt]

might be the rng with kurumi because I don't want to bother with momo

does momo work 100% without 125

[knotty jolt]

I let others do my meta showdown cause im a lazy pos that can be bothered

[whole crypt]

I don't dislike her so much as I don't really care compared to kurumi, but if momo 120 is enough for 100% or 99.9 I'll go for it

[turbid dawn]

What is the best fleet for 14-3H mobbing? Trying to 3 star it and I just don't have the sustain to clear the last 2 nodes. Also once you get out of ammo it seems near impossible to clear the suicide ships+ASW for the the 3* nodes. All3 even have Depth charges+hedgehogs

[whole crypt]

use a secondary healer

[atomic abyss]

or ya know

dont 3* on lethal

get it to safe then 3*

[whole crypt]

3-starring on lethal is completely pointless for HM besides bragging rights

[turbid dawn]

I tried Volga but she was making clearing take 30s longer and made killing the low HP suicide boats less consistent

[viscid swift]

meh, people have been doing it, just gotta pay attention to your set up is all

[sweet delta]

eldridge and noshiro is RNG squared

[atomic abyss]

so RNGRNG

[whole crypt]

is that noshiro, would explain why the fleet is shitting its pants

[sweet delta]

get it to clearing mode then kill the boss gives 3rd star

[stone sluice]

Totally agree

[atomic abyss]

anyways unless you have a strong account, i highly do not recommend trying to 3* on lethal

[turbid dawn]

I mean I''ve done the rest, just doing 14-3 tonight and it seems so much harder then the other 3

[atomic abyss]

well no ammo node so that can happen

[viscid swift]

hardly

[atomic abyss]

i wouldnt call it "so much harder" tho yes

[whole crypt]

this worked fine for me, there's probably better setups

[atomic abyss]

so again, just get it to safe first if you really cant do it

sometimes the best solution to a problem is to not try too hard

[undone plover]

this mob fleet works great for me

[viscid swift]

tanky vangurd, high damage main fleet healers, make sure everything is staggered well and you're not leaking planes, that just about covers it

[turbid dawn]

Which fleet is which?

[viscid swift]

didn't Shimanto die on your last fight

[atomic abyss]

unicorn is the mob fleet

[undone plover]

raffa fleet would be mob cuz of eldridge laffey asw duty

also unicorn yes

[turbid dawn]

Yeah that's what I presumed, alright

Is Raf actually good? Havent used her yet since getting her

[viscid swift]

yes

[whole crypt]

Raffaelo is one of the best mobbing BBs

[viscid swift]

she's a campaign oriented BB

[undone plover]

i had wrong bb guns setup
And my shimanto is 120 tbf

[atomic abyss]

not lion tier levels of OP, but certainly very good at mobbing

[pulsar topaz]

a solid mobber that got slept on because no new content popped up that needed her

now we have new content, and now she's pretty relevant

[undone plover]

ppl did say she was great for ch15 tbf

[viscid swift]

we always said she was an excellent mobber

[pulsar topaz]

I haven't thought about Ch15 for a year

[whole crypt]

the problem with Raffaelo is by the time they added her 14 and 15 were already sovled without her, we always knew she's a greab mob BB

[sweet delta]

i think about my bae 15 every day

[undone plover]

would raffa beat other 2nd healers in ch15?
or is the lack of AS and AA compared to CV worse

[whole crypt]

your mileage may vary

[stone sluice]

I’ve been using Lion, Fritz and unicorn for 14 hm mob
Fritz with an aux gun seem to help regarding those heavy suicide ships. I 3 starred it in lethal, I don’t recommend it but it’s fun to try

[viscid swift]

have a feeling that'll depend on your AA

yeah there's mutiple comps that work

[whole crypt]

14H AA req isn't that high

[viscid swift]

I did it with Musashi, Aquila, and a 120 Bayard

was bloody close though

[whole crypt]

like the planes really hurt if they hit but they're not hard to down and they're nowhere near even ch13 densities

[viscid swift]

14-2 boss would be to differ

right boody pain that was

[whole crypt]

14-4 boss was the only one that gave me any trouble at all

[pulsar topaz]

having three battleships backing up the boss constantly is suffering

[whole crypt]

as it turns out burns really hurt, as does +10% damage

[pulsar topaz]

so does the rare time when Mogami finally shoots backline

[atomic abyss]

moggers

[whole crypt]

but yeh overall Yamashiro didn't live long enough to feel like a problem, compared to Mogami

[atomic abyss]

i always found fusou productions to be a bigger pain anyways

[whole crypt]

they are

[undone plover]

even reaching the 14-4 boss is

[whole crypt]

getting to boss isn't that hard, lethal 3-starring is though because 0 ammo

[viscid swift]

nah, getting to the boss is easy enough

actually living through Mogami is a right pain in the ass because you can't maintain concealment

[undone plover]

i meant the boss node has a lot of waves

[whole crypt]

you can get concealment stripped right at the start then the BBs just have a field day

[viscid swift]

yeah I know, that's mangable

[undone plover]

my van was 50% by the time she spawns

[turbid dawn]

Why is it that where places you'd actually like to use Subs you can't now that I think about it. E.g this hard mode, META fights etc. I literally never use subs otherwise

[whole crypt]

that sounds like a setup problem

because if you could use subs then HM won't be hard

[viscid swift]

hard mode, it's in the name

[whole crypt]

hard mode has always been about arbitrary restrictions anyway

[atomic abyss]

if they wanted to make HM hard

they should make it such that we cant see what enemy node it is until we actually battle it

ya know, cos fog

[knotty jolt]

your ships can't fire their guns unless they're a much closer range then normal to the enemy

[onyx flame]

wtf is this wows cyclone mechanic

[turbid dawn]

Well, I tried swapping them and yeah going back to Volga, she keeps dying by only the 2nd node due to suicide ships, damn

[onyx flame]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/460645783021289472/1453713165115330692/2k.gif

[sweet delta]

you need more suicide boat defense

[pulsar topaz]

common footage of being discovered in chapter 14 hard

[turbid dawn]

This is the issue of running 2 healers, no? I had the same issue when I tried using Volga last time

[whole crypt]

what secondary gun is Raff using

[sweet delta]

i didn't have suicide boat problems with this double carrier healer fleet

[turbid dawn]

I used the same Aux gun on both Alsace too when I used her

(I forgot a Aug oops)

[sweet delta]

use momo, kurumi, or 2 bbs

[whole crypt]

you probably want a 457 for main gun and a 155kai for secondary

[turbid dawn]

Then she's firing at the same time as Volga

[whole crypt]

how the hell does radar 457 sync with Volga

[sweet delta]

maybe 3rd salvo and 2nd strike

[turbid dawn]

Exactly

Plus the fast firing for the HE gun when the repair ships come out is good imho

Otherwise just waiting for backline to fire

[whole crypt]

this is with 10 BB 30 CV RLD

[viscid swift]

lack of table is an interesting choice

[cobalt rapids]

so its 2nd strike and 3rd salvo

[whole crypt]

that's with table

unless you're referring to bane's HPFCR

[viscid swift]

yes I am

[whole crypt]

Lion gun isn't exactly fast anyway and I'd rather not count on it as the main kill for repair ships

[cobalt rapids]

why does it need to be fast to kill repair ships

repair ships only spawn on w2 and w4
and w2 is easy

[whole crypt]

I don't remember if they spawn on 14-3 but that's what he's have trouble with earlier, unless he's gone elsewhere

[cobalt rapids]

i meant wave 2 and wave 4

[whole crypt]

oh

I personally never felt like I had trouble with the repair ships using 457 so

[turbid dawn]

Yeah 14-3h, watching it again I'm just at the same thing where ASW+suicide boat killing just isn't enoug hfor the 3* once out of ammo

[cobalt rapids]

me neither ( on ammo )

[whole crypt]

try double line

[turbid dawn]

I mean I guess I can try my boos fleet and see if they can clear these last 2

[whole crypt]

circular doesn't really do much here

[cobalt rapids]

asw = lion or load ur fleet with ton of asw
intercept = more bb and/or summons

[turbid dawn]

I mean I have x2 depth charge and a hedgehog in the Vang

[whole crypt]

or you could just use the boss fleet and kill the boss

why bother with lethal 3 star really

[turbid dawn]

But Uni+Volga die to the subs+suicide and then vang dies too

[undone plover]

without lion some will still leak tbh
that is my experience at least
no matter how much asw u run
unless u reset for bad rng i suppose

[whole crypt]

like if you're not having trouble with it sure

[cobalt rapids]

because azu len didnt get any hard content in years

[viscid swift]

I just did it to say I can, stuborness, and curiosity

[whole crypt]

I ran my escort counter up to 50 for 14-4 and decided it was no longer worth my effort to bother

14-3 though wasn't an issue

[undone plover]

most ppl quit before they hit big

[turbid dawn]

I'm the complete opposite, 14-4 wasn't bad and 14-3 I'm stuck here

[whole crypt]

it didn't help that I was also closing to day change and couldn't be bothered to waste any more time with it

[undone plover]

try zwei with certificate if the issue is OOA
triple healer with raffa looks to be overkill especially with eldridge
your issue is OOA
or lion (her burn doesnt care about OOA

[whole crypt]

eh, I used Eldridge with +13 hedgehog and Gannet on Unicorn

no additional depth charges past that

[undone plover]

i used laffey with hedgehog + depth and shimanto with depth + eldridge off tank and had lion and 0 subs leaked

[whole crypt]

off the top of my head bis with cert only reduces the penalty for your main fleet so subs shoulds till be a problem

[undone plover]

eldridge maybe overkill tho
maybe best if saved for boss and run z52 instead

[whole crypt]

and uh, yeh, you could cheese lion burn on subs I guess if you're desperate

[undone plover]

yeah u are right

[undone plover]

tbh I dont think lion was needed for boss fleet
unless u run lion + healer for secondary mob
she is probably better in mob

[sweet delta]

i used lion for mob asw, and i used lion for boss dmg

[rose whale]

I need a boss fleet for 14.2 hard mode, pls halp. I have all the ships

[whole crypt]

but do you have all the gear

[rose whale]

Uh... Maybe not enough to put rainbow on all of them

[whole crypt]

to be fair I didn't touch Lion at all for 14H, didn't come to mind

14-4 might have been a bit easier if I remembered she exists

[rose whale]

I'm using this for mob of 14.2 hard mode and it work, but need suggestions for boss

[whole crypt]

this is what I used

[rose whale]

Which one is boss?

[whole crypt]

the one without Unicorn

[rose whale]

Who is the 3rd ship top, left to right btw

[whole crypt]

Independence

[hollow gust]

Independence

[rose whale]

Thanks, ill need to gear volga...

[hollow gust]

Best independence skin too , not even close

[whole crypt]

it's not like Independence has a particularly large wardrobe to compare with

[stone sluice]

Try momo, her flowers help slowing down those suicide ships

[hollow gust]

4 skins and a retro is more then a lot of ships lol

[modest moat]

What loadouts do people use for Yorktown meta? I might need names if I don’t recognize the portraits

I was considering Kear/Yt2/lex Guam/laffey/sandy but I’m not sure

[viscid swift]

Check the pins

[soft raft]

Definetly not that

[modest moat]

Yeah I didn’t have many ships with summons that came to mind. Would never have thought of Kursk and I did forget bis2

Who is momo again

[atomic abyss]

to love ru collab ship

[modest moat]

I think I do not have her then

Kurumi?

Idk who that is and I for sure don’t have Duisburg either. I didn’t realize Yoshino was in the game

[onyx flame]

dal collab

[rose whale]

What are the armor type of 14 hard mode bosses ?

[eternal basalt]

Still works...

[modest moat]

Well, it seems I am a bit disadvantaged on this meta boss. But with the pointers, I’ll hopefully be able to crawl up to the 50% mark to be able to do it in two runs, that’s all I’m really looking for atm. Thanks all

[weary gust]

I guess in clearing mode there is only one enemy on the map so logically ...

[stone sluice]

Heavy, Heavy, Light, Medium

[plain saffron]

is it always like this, or only after they added the enemy left counter

[eternal basalt]

Since they changed 3* to clear requirements for clearing mode

[plain saffron]

i see

[vague oracle]

Should I swap out my azuma for unzen? Got her from the rerun until now finally decided to build her

[broken kayak]

2 very different ships for different purposes

[vague oracle]

What's their purpose

[proper violet]

On the winter thing, it's just bismarck chosen right? At the end I mean, if you don't have her?

[tulip tinsel]

whoever you need for tech

[proper violet]

Bismarck it is, iron blood is so fun to level tech 💀

[tulip tinsel]

+2 bb fp at 120

[undone plover]

who is the best CV x-fleet atm?

[stark quiver]

Essex I think

[narrow arch]

Is william d porter good enough at MLB to replace my starter destroyer

Or is Z23 at full retrofit still better

[proper violet]

I also need to know

[stark quiver]

William d porter is better than z23 retrofit
Assuming they both are max limit broken and max level

[sweet delta]

Id say William reporter is better at 2LB already

[narrow arch]

Gotcha

[wanton spear]

what does skin rpojection do?

[sweet delta]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Shipyard#Skin_Projection

[wanton spear]

i don't get what ts is saying

so u do missions to unlock skins?

[sweet delta]

you unlock the ability to use 2 different skins you already own for that ship

[wanton spear]

bruh

[chrome fiber]

Who do i research next in shipyard? I just got done with fried rice (friedrich).

[sweet delta]

what ships do you have? the answer is likely Anchorage or August, then Aegir

[chrome fiber]

I already have anchorage

I'm super casual as it's just recently I've been wanting to progress my account and tbh im kind of lost .

[woven star]

You'll anyway want to get them all. Just some more useful than others

[chrome fiber]

So what would be useful for me now ? Does it depends on what ship i have and where i am on campaign

[woven star]

Do you have all ships that sushi said?

[chrome fiber]

No, do i get them first then it's just whatever?

[woven star]

Get them first

[chrome fiber]

Okay!

[woven star]

Just get and having dev 30 or fs is a big difference. Get them and upgrades them to maximum

[chrome fiber]

I just realized i have enough materials to complete both ship research in 2 week since i need to wait for the cd. What do i do after?

Also is there a priority for what UR to mlb first? I barely have enough to do all. Would be really helpful since it's taking to much space

[hollow gust]

Holy fuck why did you buy so many

[chrome fiber]

I didn't i can still buy more

I've just been hoarding

[viscid swift]

how many more bullins can you buy?

[hollow gust]

You can hoard in currency form
Zwei Hakuhou Lexington Unzen
Raffaello if you are pushing endgame campaign

[eternal basalt]

Don't hoard UR Bulins, keep them in the shop until use

[viscid swift]

that Trafalgar is already MLB

[chrome fiber]

It's from event

[sweet delta]

not hakuhou

[viscid swift]

they also have Amagi CV and Shinano MLB so Hakuhou is redunant

[hollow gust]

Haku is still a improvement , and shes basically done so might as well

[sweet delta]

just add bisz and william, level up the MLB URs to 125, that would be most useful

[viscid swift]

is she

we haven't quite been able to put that to the test yet

[chrome fiber]

So i just mlb bisz and wiliam?

[viscid swift]

for now yes

[sweet delta]

if you plan to play this event more, then a copy of william d porter can save a bulin

[sweet delta]

leveling lion, bisz, amagi, shinano, implacable, eldridge, trafalgar, sandy, wdp, and any good gold/purple ships to 125 would be the first step to non-casual

more than farming shipyard

[hollow gust]

Guam and Laffey are coming too, that's another 7 Bulins

[chrome fiber]

Got it

On what stage do you guys farm xp for ship? Is there any specific stages.

[hollow gust]

12-4

[viscid swift]

12-1

[narrow arch]

Is there something I can start doing rn with porter to prepare for when I eventually do MLB her or should I just ignore her for now

Because I really do wanna use her lmao, her abilities look funny

[undone plover]

level up her skills if u think u will mlb her soon
u can even get her to level 120
both assuming u dont have more prio ships to level and train skill

[clear harbor]

My Lion and Hakuhou are at Level 120, but not awakened. If they reach their EXP cap, will the EXP they gain from battle be zero? Trying to see how I would check for if they've reached their pre-awakening cap.

[undone plover]

if they reach cap then xp gain will be 0 yes

[hollow gust]

The cap is like 3 mil, that will be a long ass time before they hit it

[undone plover]

u need this much for level 120>125
if u want to not waste xp stop using them once u store this much xp

[clear harbor]

Yeah, I think I hit it with Unicorn? But I don't think there are any other ships in my dock that have reached it.

[clear harbor]

Oh interesting. I think I'm over that cap. I just assumed the cap was less than the amount needed to get to 125.

Edit: I liked, Raff hit the cap, too.

[blissful hamlet]

What fleet can do 14-4 hard mode? I tried jimmy fleet but it doesn't work for the boss

[hollow gust]

It does work, more likely gear problems or your cats are that trash

[undone plover]

it is the opposite

[narrow arch]

I dont know what other priority i would have, all of my base fleet ships are now MLB and fully retrofit them. So now all I need to do is get level 60 and start pushing to finish the campaigns

[undone plover]

well maybe u want to raise someone else not porter if it will be a while before u get UR bulins that is what I meant

[narrow arch]

Yeah, I have implacable MLB and im close to another UR bulin but its gonna be a bit to get the 2 others unless I can get them from the event track

[blissful hamlet]

Show fleet

My gear aren't trash

[rain bobcat]

lvl her skill and get her to 120, so that when you do mlb her, she becomes immediately useful

[weary gust]

Shouldn't you be the one showing your fleet?

[hollow gust]

Considering I used the same fleet Jimmy used and cleared, actual skill issue

[rain bobcat]

trash gear can be subjective

the gear/cats you use could very well be completely repulsive

add on that jimmy and many of us have very high tech, gear will widen the gap significantly

[viscid swift]

It's Serenity, I'm gonna gazzard a guess it isn't good

[wooden osprey]

what's the klukai unit of azurlane?
or surtr/w alter

[rain bobcat]

lion

[wooden osprey]

fr?

aight thanks

[rain bobcat]

1. klukai isn't that crazy
2. lion is easily top dog, but wont carry a very shit player

[viscid swift]

I have no idea what those mean

[rain bobcat]

meta defining/braindead character

[wooden osprey]

broken units that break game

[rain bobcat]

to be clear lion is well ahead competition but not a mile ahead outside pvp

[viscid swift]

Lion gets close but depending on your definition of game breaking no ship might meet that criteria

[verbal plinth]

uni most op trust

[wooden osprey]

can i consider lion to be as good as musashi for campaign?

[rain bobcat]

musashi can get away with less on 15 probably

[viscid swift]

After seeing her in w14-h she might be considered better overall

Might being the key word

[rain bobcat]

14H definitely better because of the structure

seems a lot of consistent clears aren't running uni. so lion clearing first wave is quite nice

[uneven cave]

What are they running, if not uni

[rain bobcat]

lion raff aquila/secondary healer

[uneven cave]

Does either need flag?

[rain bobcat]

not really

[viscid swift]

There's a number of comps

All following similar principles

[rain bobcat]

need is a strong word, a lot of URs don't lose or lose very little not being flag

actually im pretty sure only musashi actually loses dmg not being flag, but very very little

[viscid swift]

I might do a small write up to fill the gap until Suchi gets back

[vale kite]

what's the fastest way to burn oil? im mega overfilled

[rain bobcat]

just start doing stages

[inland shoal]

Buying dorm food technically, but not very worth, just farm the highest campaign stage you comfortably can, like 12-4

[uneven cave]

Mmm I see

[modest moat]

12-1 is still the stage to farm for chips, right?

[inland shoal]

Only if you can't do 13-1 or 14-1

[modest moat]

I seem to recall doing 12-1 to farm chips while I farm xp for fleet tech ships

13-4 for coins?

[inland shoal]

Basically for chips the higher the main chapter the better
For coins the higher the main chapter the better, but -4 better than -1 matters more
Exp kinda gets worse with increasing main chapter, -1 is better than -4
12 is a lot easier than 13 is a lot easier than 14
But once your done with main fleets and/or unless you're somewhat tryharding you don't run out of chips too easily

[rapid summit]

How much times do I got to do a sortie to get 13-3 to safe?

[sweet delta]

10 boss kills after 100%

[vale kite]

additional question, I keep getting full dock and I keep enhancing which is kinda annoying .. Should i just purge purples?

[clear harbor]

Is anyone up for limit breaks?

What does your dock look like?

[vale kite]

I will make a thread with screenshots if ur okay with that

[viscid swift]

have you gotten rid of dupes and used bullins yet?

[modest moat]

I was under the impression that even though 14-4 gives more coins, 13-4 was actually more oil efficient. Do we still have that chart lying around?

[viscid swift]

14-4 gives marginally more coins per oil but was far more difficult and time consuming to farm

[soft raft]

12-4 is the place you farm because 13 and 14 are too difficult to raise low lvl shitters

[late flame]

14-4 is for those who likes torture uh i mean really wanna burn time

[rapid summit]

Okk ty

[viscid swift]

just do C1 farming

[modest moat]

By that you mean 12-1, 13-1, etc?

[viscid swift]

no, I mean C1 secured nodes in Operation Siren for burning time on this game

[late flame]

i think cheeky meant opsi c1 = corrosion level 1 yeah (replying to my earlier comment on burning time)

[modest moat]

I see, gotcha

[narrow arch]

Ty

[modest moat]

I’m in a little bit of a limbo spot where I really need some coinage

[narrow arch]

I got to level 60 woo hoo

[late flame]

^ this

[narrow arch]

Opsi and gear rnd looks like its gonna be fun to figure out

[south sequoia]

Who has a higher personal DPS? brest or guam

[narrow arch]

But now I see how to get the specific guns and stuff that people keep telling me to get so like, yay

[modest moat]

As I think I mentioned earlier, I also farmed 12-1 a lot specifically for the cog chips and for the low-level-shitters part

[clear harbor]

Yeah, it took me a while to figure out. The sooner you learn, the better. Ask questions!

[late flame]

12-1 has a bit more exp and smaller map if you wanna level subs, but yes 12-4 has better coin

[viscid swift]

uhhhh I think Brest but only if you give her the Mogador gun

[south sequoia]

Ohh

[narrow arch]

Should I be using my main fleet for opsi?

[viscid swift]

don't quote me on that though

[narrow arch]

Or should I have a new dedicated fleet just for it

[soft raft]

Yeah Brest and Guam feel close
I want to say Guam but I've never really bothered crunching numbers

[clear harbor]

That's what I did for a while. Up until I had a full fleet of 120 ships for mobbing and bossing.

[narrow arch]

I see

My main fleet is close to 120

I just need to get friggen UR bulins so I can actually use my URs that I have, but now I can actually get the gear that is recommended to me so that should make things easier to fight and allat

[clear harbor]

You can also swap gear more freely in OpSi.

[viscid swift]

might wanna give that a read if you haven't already
https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vRPJgxnXwC4r3Z8AlbzPUhHDXt0Dr7KP4TPriFnGafQrt1wE7Jb5AdRgfy8tXaLpTC-CtYAVMZgJE0g/pub

[clear harbor]

Like, let's say you have a mobbing fleet and a bossing fleet, you can use the best gear on whatever fleet happens to be engaging in battle at the moment. then requip as necessary.

[sweet delta]

Equal if Mog gun else Guam
because Brest gets a larger boost from mog gun

[ivory sigil]

https://youtu.be/UDvM3aWca6s?si=AJIGuSI9baCofj9K i had so many question about jimmy newest tierlist

Frankly WillyD S tier is tentative atm. Yet i still skeptical to invest UR bulin compare to Guam/Laffey2 despite they are in same tier

[sweet delta]

i don't think he checks this channel, you can join his discord

[ivory sigil]

I only ask abit here, since i only had like 5% of the ship in the tierlist i do see Noshiro is standing next to Kurumi in the B tier

Does that mean Noshiro is worth buying if she appear in the Meritshop ⚔️ ?

[sweet delta]

what is the tier list for? What do you need Noshiro for?

[frozen stag]

It's worth to spend all on the control table right

[past bear]

https://youtu.be/UDvM3aWca6s?si=dC8GY9dKs8nTAyvF

[sweet delta]

i'd even say first white shell > first AFCT > second white shell > second AFCT
and independence somewhere

[past bear]

Suchi when will the new gear lab review vid come out?

[rain bobcat]

does he say why or not

also, noshiro has some nice mobbing capabilities but are tied to rng

her output when she constantly hits the 80% is not bad

the problem is, she's a dead slot if she misses her barrage chance

[sweet delta]

It seems that if Noshiro has 100% geo hit rate on her 10s barrage, then she equals Bayard's DPS with realistic hit rate against a single target. If we give both ships 100% geo hit rate on all barrages, then...

100% all barrage hit rate
Bayard (Fs5)    3267    3146    3081    80.00    Ply Gun
Noshiro            1611    1737    2014    80.00    Single 150mm

100% skyslayer edge hit rate
Noshiro            1418    1575    1864    80.00    Ply Gun

single boss hit rate
Bayard (Fs5)    1671    1534    1446    80.00    Ply Gun
Noshiro            926    971    1091    80.00    Ply Gun

[old crest]

I need to level up 3 of these girls for PR farming. Which ones here worth leveling up?

[viscid swift]

mostly just tech so Chapayev, Avrora, Abruzzi, Kirov, Voroshilov, Kuybyshev, Pompeo, Gorizia, Kursk, Atillio

[rapid summit]

Is w14 easier than w13? Since there is less of those planes

[stark quiver]

its a lot harder

[rain bobcat]

much harder

[viscid swift]

well planes are still an issue in so much as you want to maintain concealment but there's a lot more threats

[rapid summit]

Well I’ll just leave w14 for now

[viscid swift]

like guve this a read if you want to know what you're dealing with
https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-14-detailed

[rapid summit]

Okk ty

Is Hindenburg a good damage dealer?

[rain bobcat]

good at dealing damage, bad at literally everything else

[rapid summit]

Oh that’s unfortunate

[soft raft]

You also have to remover her AA capability in order for her to be stonks good at damage

[hallow spoke]

What can I do for my teams

[soft raft]

Get Helena and Portland from the guild shop
Raffaello/Cowpens or Enterprise (Depending on who you need more)/Unicorn Portland/San Diego/Helena

Also maybe give this a read if you havent already https://www.azurlaneecgc.com/newbie_tips/ because I can already seen some pretty questionable choices

[hallow spoke]

Okay

[viscid swift]

https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/progression-guide/
also read this

[hallow spoke]

I can go raf cow uni, and San, port, hel

Right?

[viscid swift]

I'd just run Montpelier isntead if Portland

or drop Sandy if you can't craft her augment

[sweet delta]

i believe bolzano meta is better than portland

[hallow spoke]

I have Bolzano as my tank

[wind hazel]

keep using her

[hallow spoke]

So is it Bolzano or portland

[wind hazel]

forget about portland

[hallow spoke]

I'm missing 20k for sandy aug

[hallow spoke]

What about Helena, do I still use her

[wind hazel]

for 2nd fleet sure. your current team works, works even better if you retrofit your unicorn, which you should ASAP

[hallow spoke]

I have my unicorn retrofitted

[wind hazel]

deceptive screenshot

[hallow spoke]

Lemme send

[wind hazel]

she is, in fact, not retrofitted fully

[whole crypt]

modernization is the most important node

[hallow spoke]

Bru it is?

[viscid swift]

yes

[narrow arch]

So in opsi basically the more stuff I kill the more gear I might be able to craft give or take

[viscid swift]

broadly yes

[narrow arch]

That includes the "blueprints" to make the UR weaponry like the Japanese torp bomber right?

[whole crypt]

rainbow designs can drop from abyssals and cat dives
rainbow ordnance reports are shop only

[viscid swift]

there isn't a UR IJN torpedo bomber in game

[narrow arch]

Is it the dive bomber?

[viscid swift]

you can convert T2s into T3s but your income per month still isn't that high

[hallow spoke]

Will gear Rd help me in at level 58 almost unlocking it

[wind hazel]

tenrai yes

[whole crypt]

if you mean Tenrai yes

[narrow arch]

Yeah that one mb

[whole crypt]

in which case you need ordnance reports

[wind hazel]

what gear rd

[whole crypt]

rainbow ordnance are only 1 per month from port shop
you can craft more from T2s which can drop but it also means crafting less gold prototype gear

[hallow spoke]

Or r&d thingy

[narrow arch]

Which port shop?

[whole crypt]

at level 58 you'll be fine with gear from boxes

[viscid swift]

Gear Lab? you can't do much of OpSi so probably not

[wind hazel]

you mean gear lab? it will help, when you have the materials for it. gotta grind for them

[hallow spoke]

Hmph

I have no knowledge for my gear or my ships 😭😭

[whole crypt]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Operation_Siren#Supply_Shop_After_First_Monthly_Reset

[hallow spoke]

Do y'all just memorize their abilities or sum

[wind hazel]

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide/

[whole crypt]

notable ones yes

[hallow spoke]

How do y'all know if a character is good or not

[whole crypt]

by looking at the stats and skills when it's added

[hallow spoke]

Bc I hear that portland is better than SRs

[rain bobcat]

testing

[wind hazel]

no

[viscid swift]

she's "better" than Eugen

[whole crypt]

Portland can be better than some SRs and elites

[wind hazel]

she's just cheap and cost effective tank, that's it

[hallow spoke]

Owww

[whole crypt]

there needs to be more context of who you're comparing her with

[rain bobcat]

SRs you mean purple? or gold? anyway she's cost effective and usually better than purples

[viscid swift]

really it should be Portland is more cost effective than a lot of SRs you can get early game

[hallow spoke]

I see

Rn I'm like doing sortie on event stages

[rain bobcat]

also didn't JP change from elite system to sr ssr

EN should just do the same

[wind hazel]

unnecessary

[whole crypt]

JP uses SR/SSR
EN uses elite/SR
CN uses both

[verbal plinth]

metric all over again

[wind hazel]

i'd argue calling it SSR is stupid

[whole crypt]

I'd argue it's clearer going R>SR>SSR

[hallow spoke]

I think I have 30k oil in my mailbox wth do I even do with all that

[verbal plinth]

use it

[sweet delta]

Id argue it's not useful to argue about it in this server

[wind hazel]

-# this is what happens to dragon ball, Super Saiyan GOD Super Saiyan

[sweet delta]

And that people should use E and SR where because it's EN server

[whole crypt]

I'd argue it's stupid to argue on the internet anyway but then that defeats the whole purpose

[hallow spoke]

Well on what, I'm level 60 soon

[viscid swift]

precisely

[hallow spoke]

And lowk idk what to do after I hit it

[wind hazel]

continue using your oil

[hallow spoke]

On what

[wind hazel]

grind D3 until you can get to chapter 9 campaign

[whole crypt]

the game is just a marathon of grinding all the way up to late game

[hallow spoke]

Event?

[viscid swift]

this game is grinding

[wind hazel]

then you can start making 2nd fleet, then you continue grinding until you can reach chapter 12

[hallow spoke]

What changes at chapter 9

[whole crypt]

for now event is probably better

[viscid swift]

/oilcap

[odd root]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/901103255935942706/969285900607553606/unknown.png

[viscid swift]

again might wanna give these a read

https://azurlaneecgc.com/newbie_tips/
https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/progression-guide/

[hallow spoke]

So much memorizing

[rain bobcat]

it's not read once never again

[hallow spoke]

Yea ik, I read it 3 times already

Wait should my damage output be coming from the back or the front

Rn my raff is doing all of it

[wind hazel]

working as intended

[rain bobcat]

back

[wind hazel]

when you retrofit your uni, she will probably snatch that from your raff. at least in easier mob fight

[hallow spoke]

I mrb using enty and raff with uni before I got cow

[rain bobcat]

better to ditch enty for cow instead of uni

[wind hazel]

just use cow

[hallow spoke]

Yea

Does MLB mean 120 or like just limit broken maxed

[rain bobcat]

full star

[hallow spoke]

What's the difference between one star away and full star

[sweet delta]

Huge

[hallow spoke]

Hm?

[wind hazel]

more stats, more capabilities, can utilize fleet tech

[hallow spoke]

Does affinity do anything, it's saying exhausted

[whole crypt]

that's morale
low morale reduces affinity and gives you less XP
affinity is a separate number

when your ship gets higher affinity there's a small stat bonus

[hallow spoke]

Lol so do I rest

[whole crypt]

take a break or use different ships

[hallow spoke]

I'ma switch ships

[wind hazel]

dont

[hallow spoke]

Why not

[wind hazel]

oil better spent on your main fleet. don't spread your resources thin

[hallow spoke]

Hm

So I rest

[wind hazel]

yes

[hallow spoke]

Are research projects worth it

[whole crypt]

also put the ships you're using into dorm for faster morale regen

[hallow spoke]

My entire fleet is unhappy

[whole crypt]

you will need to do research in the long term to use the research ships but it's not something you need to seriously focus on for now

[hallow spoke]

I've been researching pr7

For nahkimov 😭😭

Are there faster ways to level skills, my uni has been stuck at level 7 I swear

[wind hazel]

i suggest you to switch to series 8, and focus gear

[sweet delta]

What happened to PR2 augments?

[wind hazel]

in the void

[hallow spoke]

What is this

[wind hazel]

research academy

[ivory pawn]

Just use the highest level and correct color book you have available, and it'll go up over time.

[hallow spoke]

Yea I know but what does it mean

[sweet delta]

Which project to pick in research academy

[hallow spoke]

K

[next escarp]

This gud?

[hollow gust]

Its important later on

[tidal meteor]

Niche/Timing

[light trail]

what's a good team for yk meta? i have almost every UR (no dev30 mecky or pr8 elf) except soyuz guam and laf2 and a lot of good SRs. cant really take screenshot rn bc hands are full

[wanton spear]

should i use hedgehog on eldrige?

[clear harbor]

Is there a yellow version of the auto-loader? Something that increases reload?

[stark quiver]

goldburn

[light trail]

who can replace mecky here?

[stark quiver]

alsace

[light trail]

nice, i should be able to copy this once i level up kurumi. no ring tho

[clear harbor]

Just Goldburn? I don't have that.

[stark quiver]

i forgot which else

[robust plinth]

does the drop rate for t4 retro blueprint increase the higher the world?

[light trail]

who can replace kurumi (no momo, i gave up on pulling her in the to love ru collab)

[onyx flame]

You dont really need rld aux unless your trying to hit specific timing

[clear harbor]

Yeah, I need to eek out just a bit more reload to hit 4 complete salvos for meta fights

[onyx flame]

It prob should but no one really knows per say, you want to fo the highest you can anyway since more coredata

[light trail]

helena?

[onyx flame]

Yea then your only realy choice for backlines is just purple autoloader

[robust plinth]

what is specific timing... why is gear so complex 😭

[onyx flame]

Its just mean to help sync your backline so they fire very close to one another to maximise dmg from buff timing/boss opening or in his case squeeze out one more round of shots

[dim tundra]

can you not 3 star using auto search?

[stark quiver]

youre fried

[rapid shard]

Working on leveling and properly gearing my subs now. Is this correct setup for 404?

[onyx flame]

For what? Hard mode? No cause no escort spawns

[dim tundra]

no normal campaign

[clear harbor]

Actually, how much time does a 3 shot salvo take? Maybe I'm okay?

[onyx flame]

It cant either you never grab the 3rd star manually

Since auto only clear the req no of mobs before going straight to boss

[dim tundra]

oh so I have to play manually to get the 3 star, got it

[onyx flame]

You want to manually grab the 3rd star auto can do the 2nd star

[rapid shard]

Also, will same loadout (other than plane) be good for Archer and flasher as well?

[wind hazel]

g7e is better on 404

[rapid shard]

Ill swap to double g7e then. Double bidder fine for rest or mix of the 2?

I do have a couple of mk16 ones as well I could use

[onyx flame]

~~6 type 95 kai ~~

[wind hazel]

depends on your rld, assuming 0 then g7e is better i think

https://suchiguma.github.io/deepresearch/submarine-calculator

you can plugin your rld stats and check for archerfish and flasher

[rapid shard]

Yes definitely 0 rld lmao im finally getting around to leveling and investing in my subs while leveling tech ships. Ill have flasher when Guam reruns so just trying to prep up the gear and get archer/404 maxed in meantime

[rapid shard]

im poor

[onyx flame]

Should use now to farm secretary affinity with the romance charm thing

[rapid shard]

404 and Archer already 100 affinity from actually using them lol

[onyx flame]

Damn my 404 is lvl 100 purely from dorm lmao

[rapid shard]

I used dorm to get them lv75ish then just set them to auto call.

[onyx flame]

Not that rich in oil, hvar came and took it all

[shadow stump]

im a bit late, i think i missed the rankings for the collab ships, but how do they stand?

[rapid shard]

Kurumi is a top tier mob tank, Tohka is high end gold DPS. Rest are all very solid golds

[shadow stump]

icic

[rapid shard]

The Twins can do some funny stuff with Oumi by using their pull to get them in range for Oumis secondary gun skills

[shadow stump]

im debating on oathing all 6 of them, bbecause moral gain

[ivory pawn]

Imo morale gain is the last reason why you should oath a ship, but you do you.

[shadow stump]

i oath for stats

mostly.

[onyx flame]

Even worse since they are better ship to do it on

Unless your gonna be buying 300 rings or something

[shadow stump]

iv just had rings sitting in my inventory, i dont buy skins

have like 4.3k gems left from the monthly passes

[sweet delta]

i would say that morale gain rate is not a stat that i decide oaths on when oathing for stats

[viscid swift]

main fleets take priority anyway

[shadow stump]

just been at a point where i havent had a need to oath new ships and push. but now that w14 hard mode came out

its a different story

[sweet delta]

according to me, Kurumi is a top pick for w14h

the other 5 date a live aren't beating rainbow ships

[shadow stump]

would be wild if they did

copium for a ark knights collab

[rain bobcat]

drake

[knotty jolt]

waiting for drake augment turning her skills into ++

[zenith heron]

||EOS ||

[paper ore]

when was ply gun added to gear lab?

[zenith heron]

A few days ago of said maintenance

[paper ore]

ohhhhhh. I thought it came a bit earlier

[clear harbor]

I hit 55k in the event and managed to farm 1 HVAR worth of BP. Now would be a natural point to switch back to farming 12-4, correct?

I spend more coin than I realize awakening rando ships.

[late flame]

if you got everything you wanted out of the event, yes

[clear harbor]

Good point, I should swing by the shop.

Oh goodness. I bought the wrong thing. I fat fingered a copy of Cleveland Meta when I just needed the crystal. 🤦‍♂️

[stark quiver]

peak

[clear harbor]

I'd need 245 Miraculous Ideas (the vocher points) for a 2nd copy of Willy D. That would cost me almost all of my remaining event points. Am I better of spending on random stuff (PR and DR BP, aug materials, chips), or is saving a UR bulin worth more?

[blissful berry]

How do I unlock the OPS missions?

[knotty jolt]

click on the node

You can enter and clear to it through the axis port on the right

or when you click on one of the abyssals there's an option to swap where you enter

[blissful berry]

The red area? It says it's locked?

[onyx flame]

You need to clear one of the areas next to it to reach it

[robust plinth]

im new to the guild, can i upgrade my dock space with this?

[knotty jolt]

i just realzied 500+ of each adaptibility and yet this whole secter is uncleared

[zenith heron]

He is still at the story mode of OPSI

[blissful berry]

[knotty jolt]

Ye but did we get this much? I don't remember

Even if we include the adapt we can buy in the shop

[tulip tinsel]

do these

[blissful berry]

Awesome, thank you

[elfin hollow]

is there any point in keeping ur dupes?

[blissful berry]

To Limit break?

[elfin hollow]

uh no like i alr have a maxed out copy. but i have one extra one

[tulip tinsel]

use ur dupes to limitbreak em

[knotty jolt]

only other reason is fleet power

which is an entirely arbitrary number

[blissful berry]

Some people use it to have them on other fleets or have them as secretaries in different skins

[tulip tinsel]

or skin but you can just retire or keep it there

[elfin hollow]

okay then i'll just get the 500 stuff they give thanks guys

do air strikes do a set dmg? or it changes everytime?

[heavy zealot]

Im thinking of getting something from gearlab for lexii or NJ , what should i get

[soft raft]

Airstrike damage is influenced by skill lvl and the carrier's AVI stat

The type of bombs that get dropped are also influenced by the gear when applicable

[soft raft]

/gearlab

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Gear Lab Guides

🔹 Gear Lab guide by elp
🔹 Gear Lab picture guide by samheart564

[elfin hollow]

when you say influenced by avi stat, is it the stat for the fleet that got air striked or both fleet combined?

[south sequoia]

this is for 14-4 h
my fleet rn for boss is sushi essex indep brest eldridge plymouth
who should lexy replace? essex or indep?

[soft raft]

oh wait you meant the ambush, thought you meant regular airstrikes

in which case idk, they dont really make much of a noticeable dent so I'd prob say it's fixed

at the same time, enemy ambushes also become nonexistent later on when you have enough recon value so no wonder why I got mixed up

[elfin hollow]

ohhh okay okay

[silver lintel]

Whos top mid bottom in flasher archerfish 404 comp

[zenith heron]

Your top is usually the least dmging sub, so that goes to Archer fish

Flag stays the same with Flasher

[covert sierra]

Lexington 2 is for boss or mob stage?

[ruby grotto]

Are siren strongholds much harder if i use lvl 120 ships

[rain bobcat]

no

only 1% of ships are strictly "this ship is dogshit when not used in boss fleet" or vice versa. and none of them are URs

[rain bobcat]

^

[whole crypt]

compared to lv125 ships you're losing 5 levels of advanrage, but it kind of depends on what ships you're comparing

[rapid summit]

Reruns take 2 years and added to pool permanently takes 1 year right?

[whole crypt]

roughly

[scarlet cosmos]

Do we have a consensus on lex 2?

[rain bobcat]

wait 6 months for next light META

[scarlet cosmos]

So only good for light bossing and meh for everything else?

[rapid summit]

Everytime a new UR gets added is it a random faction or do they have a certain month for a certain faction

[rain bobcat]

september is basically guaranteed IJN

[woven star]

Lex2 imo take implacable place in light boss fights. So anyway her rate will be high for these fights

[rapid summit]

Which faction is mostly February?

[rain bobcat]

other than sept nothing is guaranteed lol

[white agate]

there is no mostly, can be IB,RN,Tulipa,sardigna or EU,NP

[rapid summit]

Ah dam

[rapid summit]

Hm I’m excited for the feb ur anyway

[white agate]

i forgot vichya dominon

[robust plinth]

modifying fleet in opsi is not possible?

[white agate]

i am not, still deluded by raffaello

[rapid summit]

Oh…

[rapid summit]

Iris libre too

[ivory sigil]

wait, this is real?

which one should i raise?

i mostly use elite cat since it had rainbowskill

I can use Elite cat to feed into my SR cat right???

[tropic tusk]

gota look at their skills ma man try
/cats

/cats

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

MEOWFFICER QUICK GUIDE

What are Meowfficers?
They are companions that you can add up to 2 per fleet (including sub fleets). They buff your fleets with their "skills" and "talents". There are 27 different types of them.

How do I get them?
You get them by opening Cat Boxes in the Cattery. The Cattery can be found under HQ > Cat Lodge. The first Cat Box you buy everyday is free. You can buy up to 14 more per day, with each costing 1500 Gold. It is strongly recommended you do NOT binge on them!

How do I level them?
Just like ships, they gain experience when sortied. They do not cost oil, however their exp gain is dependent on the oil spent by the fleet. They max out at level 30. You can also level them by feeding other meowfficers to them, at about 30% exp loss (20% bonus if identical). Additionally they can gain levels passively through Comf-Forts.

What are talents?
Talents buff a specific ship type or faction. They get 1-3 permanent talents, depending on rarity.. Every 5 levels they gain, they get a Cat Paw which can be used to roll new talents or raise the level of some talents. You can reroll any new talents once every 24h with gold (increases with number of talents).

What are skills?
Skills are unique to each type of Meowfficer. They usually give some stat buff or some perk to the fleet. They get 1 skill initially, and they can get up to 3 skills, each obtained by feeding duplicates (1 for 2nd, 3 for 3rd). The potency of the skills is dependent on their stats which increase through levels.
Do note that the skill stat buffs are mostly inferior to talent stat buffs.

Visit the AL Wiki Page on Meowfficers for more details.
Cat Guide by Riceist#3504 for detailed explanation of skills and talents.

[tropic tusk]

@ivory sigil

[ocean terrace]

tbh I've just been levelling the ones I had from the beginning since it takes ages to reach higher levels

and I doubt I have any fantastic cats worth investing in anyway

[tropic tusk]

just equip those cats and let them level for now

[knotty jolt]

I'm leveling spare cats so when i get a good base i can feed it a trash lv30 to boost it

[tropic tusk]

ya exp cats

[ocean terrace]

yur but you're all vets smh

I was told cat stuff is endgame and that I should just level whichever SR cats for cat nodes

[knotty jolt]

I mean ye but eventually that whatever cat you got to 30 will be prime XP fodder for a good cat later down the road

[ocean terrace]

oh I see what you mean

[knotty jolt]

iirc 90% of the xp is transfered over

[ocean terrace]

I'll probably feed them to Drake and whoever the other one is

[tropic tusk]

some cats has a buff call exp also so keep an eye for them

[late flame]

-# ngl most of the time i forget meowfficers exist

[tropic tusk]

i just cba lol

use using Halloween cat

[knotty jolt]

i forget to equip them in hardmode grinding in events cause you need to swap tabs to equip them

[mellow stirrup]

hewwo i have a question

What is the most important thing make Our kansei(ship girl idk) Stronger

is it xp or Gear or something?

[tropic tusk]

well first is level > limit break > gear
limited break on ships are like a must if u want them to be useful , and gear u need time to farm them which means u cant rush

@mellow stirrup

[mellow stirrup]

Thank you ^^

[tropic tusk]

limit break u can either use the same copy or bullions

[hollow gust]

Say I put pearl on Kurumi,does her clones dying also heal my fleet

[tropic tusk]

in theory yes

[ember patrol]

oh wait I jsut realised i'm getting more of the Hellcat hvar blueprints, I don't remember how much is reccomended to get, so how many should I try to get again?, I have three and can make a fourth one

[hollow gust]

nope pearly doesnt, at least not in pvp

[crimson glacier]

what did the lighthouses do again in w14

prime time to notice that they exist right as i hit 0 ammo

[bright tusk]

Here's my fleet I use for w14-4h, fleet 2 are my mob fleet, they are already strong enough to mobbing until the boss spawn. But, the fleet 1/boss fleet is either flagship sunk or vanguard annihilated, any suggestion to make my boss fleet stronger?

[hollow gust]

it should fully remove enemy oncealment

[crimson glacier]

does indep do anything in bosses

and isnt that vanguard just straight paper anyway

[hollow gust]

a lot of damage

[crimson glacier]

is it a lot by w14 standards

[wind hazel]

you can try double bb setup, since acv red anyway. and try napoli for beefier vanguard

just be ready to reset

[crimson glacier]

can someone tell me why am i using hvars vs fusou boss

[wind hazel]

u high af

[bright tusk]

Are there any suggestions for the 2nd BB too? I have all besides Mecklenberg

[crimson glacier]

its just kinda funny how w14h feels so much easier than w14 normal did on release

[rigid onyx]

i thought that people reccomended 3 cvs total for w14h

[wind hazel]

just the stronger BB ships really like alsace. you're already using lion on mob so i dont see much choice

[crimson glacier]

i dont think theres clear lines like that

[bright tusk]

Okay, I try

[crimson glacier]

tho 2 healers on mob is nice imo

[rigid onyx]

z52 main tank for boss seems somewhat insufficient

with no other survivability support

[crimson glacier]

id assume all DDs are bad on bosses

[whole crypt]

more like on 14 release we didn't have options and the whole fleet may not have been 125 yet since you'd be short on arrays

[crimson glacier]

i mean obviously

[untold sierra]

Hi guys, how do I farm Iron Blood Tech and Sakura Tech? What do I do to increase them?

[crimson glacier]

turns out that when we have 30 URs instead of 3 its a lot different

[whole crypt]

also now we obviously know to keep an eye out to reset the stupid fights from stray torps or the CV being maimed by a BB

[wind hazel]

farm IB from divergent chessboard in war archives. obtain, max limit break or lv120 give faction tech. sakura you have to farm from everywhere

[crimson glacier]

the reset stuff i was already familar a lot before w14

w10 resets were way more common than w14

[whole crypt]

never really had issues with 10 personally

[crimson glacier]

when did you do it

[whole crypt]

cap100

[crimson glacier]

alright then

[wind hazel]

the dinosaurs are speaking in language unknown to us n00bs...

[whole crypt]

but yeh there's just so many more good ships now and we basically know what 14 throws at us, it's just scaling the numbers up for hard

[untold sierra]

Are these the only things that increase it?

[wind hazel]

yes, obtain, mlb or lv120

[crimson glacier]

w10 just had so many more ways to fuck with you imo

[whole crypt]

just lack of options back then overall, and level advantage was fucked if you were doing it far back enough

but it basically just hits you with the same shit as it does now

[rigid onyx]

i reset enty procs to get my first harby kill but i never had to deal with cap100

[untold sierra]

I want to start either ägir or azuma, but with Iron Blood 538 and Sakura 646, which one do you think I should go for?

[wind hazel]

agir. azuma is kinda bad

[whole crypt]

ch11 at cap100 was even more fun, since that's basically ch10+

[untold sierra]

What do you suggest?

[whole crypt]

cap100 was pre-OS so that doesn't exist as a comparison

[crimson glacier]

yeah when i was doing w12 i still had some ships at like lvl 105

[wind hazel]

... agir

[rigid onyx]

do people suggest new players to get agir before fdg

[crimson glacier]

no

[wind hazel]

depends on the account

they are literally 70 points away from one another, so most of the time agir would be better and faster upgrade

[whole crypt]

I don't think I'll recommend doing either nowadays as a new player

[rigid onyx]

i mean you should do one

[crimson glacier]

is agir coinable now

[whole crypt]

yes

[crimson glacier]

i guess she can be better choice then if your account already has UR BB/s

[whole crypt]

dipping into KMS research ships "early" is kind of dependent on whether you start around a KMS event

[wind hazel]

what...

[rigid onyx]

what pr research do people reccomend with all the pr1 augs now

[whole crypt]

otherwise by the time you have tech for either Agir or FdG there's a fair chance you have something that works but much more accessible

PR8

[hollow gust]

PR8 most op

[rigid onyx]

oops bad wording; what pr ship coin

[whole crypt]

don't confuse picking projects and the ships you develop first

[rigid onyx]

still ancho?

[whole crypt]

you basically will be stuck working on something from PR1 regardless by the time you unlock research

the easy ones remain Saint Louis and Monarch because of ships you'll likely be using early on

now whether you carry through to giving them augments is a different issue

[wind hazel]

it's still the sameish, start with louis/roon>fillers>fdg/anchorage/agir

[whole crypt]

it's basically doing PR1 until you can work on something newer because tech gate

[hollow gust]

Roon is really good balanced of everything

[rigid onyx]

i guess roon since she'll also give kms tech

[wind hazel]

nowadays i dont suggest fdg as much since we have musashi on exchange

but also depends heavily on the account, as usual. no clear cut

[whole crypt]

FdG is really a case of "you may have a good enough or better BB by the time FdG is usable"

Agir... do you actually need something that tanky or do you already have something durable enough for current needs

[rigid onyx]

i feel like if you daily light properly musashi would take like 4 months for copy 1

[wind hazel]

agir is still really good for newbies though

[whole crypt]

how long you are away from Musashi depends on the events that happen after you start

[wind hazel]

armour break, very tanky. newbies usually only have anchorage and nothing else to fill 2nd tank slot

[whole crypt]

if you join before a collab for example the collab banner counts to perm pity

[crimson glacier]

agir and anchor work well together anyway

[ocean terrace]

Personally holding back on Agir cos of Guam but that's a special case

[crimson glacier]

i mean agir is always better than guam except in w15

[woven star]

Kms tech isn't big problem nowadays. You can get easily kms ship lower tires just farming few stages or guild shop

[whole crypt]

similarly if you start with EN anniv or something, that won't be a UR banner either and will count to perm pity

[ocean terrace]

I need good BBs a lot more than vanguard atm so FDG takes prio for me

[rigid onyx]

you shouldnt usually clear the banner in your first sr event because you want to save for your first UR event no?

[crimson glacier]

thats reasonable

[whole crypt]

you need good ships all around and everything in earlier series will be replaced as you go

[crimson glacier]

i just think it feels bad to use UR bulins on guam

[rigid onyx]

using ur bulins on guam is an interesting choice

[crimson glacier]

if you are limited on them

[whole crypt]

keep in mind FdG won't actually be d30 for at least a month even if you manage to unlock her

[ocean terrace]

Same for any ship though