gameplay-help

[viscid swift]

I used one on Aquila as well

[sharp socket]

[hollow gust]

[robust plinth]

i will, thanks

[south sequoia]

what about this?

[viscid swift]

desync the 2 BBs, better aux gun on Soyuz and Raff, better AA

[south sequoia]

should I give them actual aa guns?

[viscid swift]

yes

[south sequoia]

this?

[viscid swift]

that might work

can't make any gurantees

[south sequoia]

time to see if it sticks

[hollow gust]

you arent gonna have air superiority

i only got air superirity with 3 CVs/CVLs; air supremacy needs even more

if you are only running 2 , pretty sure thats parity

Jimmy is using Independence Musashi Essex

[viscid swift]

oh right

[south sequoia]

Hmm

[hollow gust]

atp just copy Jimmy's fleet

[viscid swift]

I'll play around more tomorrow

[hollow gust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEeYFcjbIrs

[south sequoia]

Can I sub out noshi

[cloud panther]

what the hell not expecting noshi

[south sequoia]

Wait no

hmm

[cloud panther]

I should sub her in lmao

[south sequoia]

I don't think I can drop noshi, my fleet lacks trp for stage req

[cloud panther]

dont understand why Bayard though

[hollow gust]

dps, she has alot of dps

[south sequoia]

i assume I should avoid taking on light house too yes?

[hollow gust]

meh i took it

[cloud panther]

over something UR?

[south sequoia]

the only other cl that matches her damage and tankiness is plymouth, and ply is auto subbed in boss fleets

[hollow gust]

i mean what UR left has more dps then her lol

[south sequoia]

though

im pretty sure bayard has even higher dmg than plymmy right

[hollow gust]

its just sandy vs bayard vs ply

[hollow gust]

cant confirm or deny, my plymouth is oathed

[cloud panther]

must be CL? already has noshi though...I picked Laff 2 / Eld Kai

[stark quiver]

did u lethal full clear goose

[hollow gust]

each fleet is required a CL

[south sequoia]

eh should i take my chances with 3* bb

[hollow gust]

i was down to the last fleet and died, got super unlucky with too many 3 star boss nodes

i could do it, cant be assed rn

[thick pond]

We have a Skip Bombers? How was it?

Also, any comments of UR IB Sub Torps compared to Bidder?

[cloud panther]

why u comparing to bidder

u compare it to the straight torp right?

[thick pond]

Isn't Bidder the magnetic Torp?
I was reffering to the newest Gear lab Sub torp on IB, G7e Improved, which is also magnetic

[cloud panther]

only fair to compare among rainbows eh isnt it

[hollow gust]

Slow as fuck so dead in the water

[cloud panther]

I rather not see the straight torp go to nothingness

top sub could somehow aim up

[thick pond]

How slow, like Abruzzi's torp speed?

[hollow gust]

Rld speed slow

You need a impossible amount of rld on your subs

[cloud panther]

it doesnt quite bend either

[rigid onyx]

seems to be better on 404

don't see how its 'slow as fuck' at 13.8s over 13.3s tbh

[hollow gust]

even if it is, the diff is marginal, i have 2 +13 sakura torps already, no way im swappping

[versed elk]

is 14h actually challenging

[soft raft]

Yes
14-4 boss hits like a train

[versed elk]

okay that sounds fun

[viscid swift]

eh, just looks like another learning curve honestley

mainly in keeping conceal

[versed elk]

I will use double lion.

[hollow gust]

killed it first try , after i swapped from single to double

[fleet marten]

its the new Submarine Torp good despite the small slower cd difference?

[simple nacelle]

This is a good ship?

[versed elk]

i’ll probably 3 star 14-1/2/3 today then attempt 14-4 tmr

[simple nacelle]

I got in a previous event and i dont use it

[fleet marten]

one of your best Vanguard Ships, I believe

[simple nacelle]

Really? I dont have any good vanguard ship. And rn have all core to limit break.

[meager path]

is t4 and t3 tech pack just open for random or wait till gold equipment stage then open?

[cloud panther]

z52 is 14H viable

[simple nacelle]

14H? Sorry, idk some game terms.

[hollow gust]

world 14 hard mode

[versed elk]

later when i send my fleets can someone who finished it help me vet if its okay

[rigid onyx]

bad at 0 limit breaks :)

[simple nacelle]

My 'best' vanguards

[peak niche]

hello returning shikikan here, i was a day 1 player but stopped playign a few years ago. I wanna get back in but my biggest issue was that the gear system is very confusing. I checked the pins and i couldnt find any gear guides, do you have any resources or links i could check out how to gear my old school Mamagi/Nagato comp lol

[hollow gust]

z52 uis tankier and does more daage then 99% of vanguards

[hollow gust]

1.https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide/
2. Nagato is terrigble

[peak niche]

rip the jpn army

[simple nacelle]

Okay, is really good option break limit her rn

[soft raft]

Insert obligatory "Faction fleet bad" statement here

[hollow gust]

backline has priorityy

[soft raft]

Depends on if you have 4 UR Bullins and what other URs you have

[simple nacelle]

With wich others of my ships can pair her?

[hollow gust]

no need to pairt

[soft raft]

that's not how you really approach fleet building

[simple nacelle]

Have the core to buy it

[viscid swift]

might wanna give that a read
https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/progression-guide/

[simple nacelle]

These ships? Are some of them good?

[simple nacelle]

Only have this UR

The last time im trying to improve my fleet

[hollow gust]

lexy where

[simple nacelle]

?

Is a good ship?

[hollow gust]

not that one

[rigid onyx]

how exactly does the affection boost from the event work? can it bring ships above 90 or 100 affin

[viscid swift]

iirc yes

[versed elk]

https://renhex.github.io/AzurLaneFleet/?AFLD=No4RjBWAGW2gNAFgMxgGyLdAHIgTOpomAOyYICcSillYS5iARKQCYccBGAhswugC6CYCmj588BBPx5kkBrWjp8JJghzVYCeGLCqErNj07H%2BQkTSgGI0GvMVVlB-JDwkYsktHj6W7dk4%2BAUFhEFVMFEodUiQXHBoSdCQ5VHsGdOhScQMjTi4zEJFMGDkGGAIJMuSywkQVb0w-Q0CeE0KkMNUFCiRUFyqklMasNxHmvNNgoWEwMJBfQmjKH16FexWGjXtIGx8fXMCp8zDNFfsZVPWlLc0xNQpdA-9TDmmuumgYaUGHdJrEBUYo9oHpDq9CjMROAshJomQ4gQEtoMMMdH0SBiqPRGPZJkETiJuhgCBjKl4dACECgxjplONwcYCcgwvBsnQYojOfEuRlMZlshMjsyoXNBABCaAAOiy4rYZFIAFNSGAgA thoughts? my first draft assume i have everything important +13

[hollow gust]

boss fleet too sqishy

[versed elk]

too much speed? nvm i saw

o should I be using like napoli or something

[hollow gust]

gonna need a brest guam or napoli

[versed elk]

i might drop bayard for napoli then

[hollow gust]

bayard instead of tohka and you drag in napoli

[versed elk]

so bayard noshi z52 mob?

[sweet delta]

non-three star is easy

[hollow gust]

z52 tank but yeah

[versed elk]

i'm gonna do 3 star i want the rewards

[rigid onyx]

gl erasure

[versed elk]

mine is not 125/200 yet

[sweet delta]

you can clear it 3 times, turn on clearing mode, and clear the boss for 3 stars

[hollow gust]

just copy jimmy lol

[versed elk]

yeah ig i could do that and switch his musashi for 2nd lion

[simple nacelle]

Some guide with a good fleets?

[clear harbor]

Do I need to clear all explorable zones in OpSi before I can access the Forward Base?

[hollow gust]

wats forward base

[soft raft]

The dock in Arbiter zone

[hollow gust]

oh lol

you jsut need to connect a node to it

[soft raft]

If you're on the monthly reset grind then you just need to claim any zone that directly borders it

[sweet delta]

for 3 stars you should have double the asw

[clear harbor]

I feel like this should count...

[versed elk]

hedgehog depth charge and asw plane?

[hollow gust]

i suggest you wait a while so you have high adapt

[hollow gust]

did you not clear story?

[ivory pawn]

It should, did you fully clear the zone you're in?

[sweet delta]

lion hedgehog eldridge or equivalent

[clear harbor]

did you not clear story?
I thought I did, but I'm also still getting Practice Battle missions.

It should, did you fully clear the zone you're in?
I thought so...I cleared all the enemies and loot.

[versed elk]

thanks lemme try it later

[ivory pawn]

Gotta clear all the Practice Battles to unlock the monthly Arbiter fight.

[clear harbor]

Lol. Got it. I figured I was done with the story because the ship girls stopped talking to me.

[ivory pawn]

Yeah you unlocked everything except Arbiter fight.

[sweet delta]

mfw eldridge proced one single operation rainbow across 3 battles in a row

[silver lintel]

Can i have mob fleet for 14-3h, trying raf lion uni but main fleet is dying

Vg is laffii eld bayard

[viscid swift]

what's the vanguard and what gear are you using

[silver lintel]

Gear is standard stuff

Or do I need fire ext

[wind hazel]

dying with ammo or out of ammo

[silver lintel]

With ammo

[viscid swift]

what exactly is standard here

[silver lintel]

Do I go back to aquila or smth

Shell+hcfcr

[viscid swift]

no I mean everything

[silver lintel]

Eh twin 457 main and twin 137 aux

Im dying from shelling

[viscid swift]

well your BBs probably aren't being staggered well then

[sweet delta]

do better dmg then

[viscid swift]

and you're not maintaining concealment

[sweet delta]

i used this for 14-3, it cleared 11 mobs and was 🤏 close to clearing the boss as well

[heavy zealot]

Is Cleveland meta good

[wind hazel]

milker good

[sweet delta]

wouldve no diffed the boss if i used laffii, but i banned laffii for variety

[wind hazel]

average gold event shpi

[verbal plinth]

anyone got the ballpark of cog chips a week from all sources avg?

[blissful hamlet]

is yuudachi meta better than yuudachi UR?

[hybrid marten]

Is there another good resource to see what gear is best to use other than Slaimuda? I know the site hasn't been updated in a few months so was just curious

[wind hazel]

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide/

[hybrid marten]

Thank you!

[slow fox]

How are you guys doing 14-2/3/4 already 😭 I'm still at 14-1

[silver lintel]

So cowpens better than uni?

[hollow gust]

you can just skip to 4 lol

[slow fox]

akizukistare

[small quarry]

Guys, what would be the first chapter to complete to face the META? I fought her yesterday, but I don't know exactly how many maps I've done to unlock her.

[soft raft]

?
What do you mean by "First chapter to complete"?

[soft raft]

Could be a desync, have you tried force closing and relaunching the game?

[small quarry]

I close and reopen it several times to add commission; I play this OS, but I don't know how the heck it works. I finish those initial maps; it's quite confusing.

[soft raft]

Luckily we have a Operation Siren guide in the works soon
Unless @viscid swift already finished it by now idk lol

[wind hazel]

follow the exclamation mark, do whatever mission it tells you to do

[viscid swift]

this how you get it until suchi gets it onto the site which will be a bit
https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vRPJgxnXwC4r3Z8AlbzPUhHDXt0Dr7KP4TPriFnGafQrt1wE7Jb5AdRgfy8tXaLpTC-CtYAVMZgJE0g/pub

that question is not answered in the guide though

[balmy skiff]

how good is the cow compared to uni and percy?

[vale spindle]

worse just use unicorn retrofit

[viscid swift]

she's not competeing with the primary healers, she's a support healer

[hollow plank]

which meta dossier should i unlock first? i hven't done any.

[whole crypt]

anything, they're not in game meta and are a pain to raise anyway

[split bramble]

anyone got a comp for mobbing as 14-4 hard?

don't have bayard maxed

[wary hawk]

Jintsuu is nice for pvp if you dont have laffey and eldridge

[split bramble]

this is for mob?

[wind hazel]

raff aquila/volga/cowpens unicorn
laffey2 shimanto eldridge

[sweet delta]

that's a suboptimal fleet for mob yes

the top 2 is what i used for 14-4, it 3 starred first try so i didn't try any other ships

[split bramble]

anything for eldridge replacement? using that for boss

ahh don't have the dol ship maxed yet

[wind hazel]

use something else for boss, eldridge is very good on mob

[sweet delta]

you can also watch an 80 minute long video #media-content message

[hollow plank]

do you guys know when eldridge rerun will happen? i wasn't there for the first itme it happened. idk when it will rerun xD

[wind hazel]

it already reran last september, wait for it to be archived next year

[tacit mortar]

Guys does YT meta affect the other YTs?

[wary hawk]

I love sushigum video

[south sequoia]

Great news guys

Yuki will be the one to announce

[split bramble]

do you use the same equip as uni for volga?

[wind hazel]

datamine lifted?

[stark quiver]

Game eos finally

[wind hazel]

datamining is back, trust.

[south sequoia]

Essentially datamining is back on the board yes

[stark quiver]

that was fast

[sweet delta]

I had already written a discord feedback forum post and saved it as a draft to post after Christmas what a waste

[wind hazel]

the dream to overtake kimocheese is real

[stark quiver]

i wonder how he's doing in 14h

[sweet delta]

He's probably doing alright

In 14-1

[inner delta]

Ok so datamining and talk will resume as usual, the only real take from staff is to not talk about unannounced content leaks and such

[wind hazel]

define unannounced content leaks, any example?

[stark quiver]

devs folded under zero pressure

[inner delta]

res is already typing so just wait on that

[harsh gust]

story or ships that weren't announced
stuff that usually isn't in datamines that we deal with in here anyway

[tacit mortar]

I never heard of leaks from this game. Only datamine news from META o.o

[wind hazel]

al-lore in shambles

[tacit mortar]

???

[vale spindle]

so basically all this stuff is fine, but lore related content is not fine?

[harsh gust]

yes

[wind hazel]

most stories are unannounced content stuff

[vale spindle]

ty

[tacit mortar]

I see.

[blissful hamlet]

Where is gaming table? Wasn't it supposed to be released on last maint?

[wind hazel]

in core limited. if you already have 2 you won't get to buy them

[blissful hamlet]

Bruh what?

So only 2 in forever?

[wind hazel]

basically it's fair game. everyone gets 2 only

[inner delta]

ig ill just make some kind of pinnable msg for a few days so people know

[wind hazel]

vet can't shame on newbies anymore, sad

[blissful hamlet]

No it doesn't. I can get infinite NJ gun from gear lab, both are former event gear why only gaming table is limited

[vale spindle]

just take the image i posted earlier and say 'discussion related to this content is fine' or smth

[sweet delta]

I'm so glad to be able to discuss level 120 ships again

[vale spindle]

cant wait for level 130

[wind hazel]

that's just how it is, tell dev to change this #game-feedback like i did

[stone sluice]

Since datamine is back, does the new ur sub torp have an improved pattern or something that makes it worth?

[inner delta]

Hi, so after further talk and discussion with staff datamine talk will be unbanned and can continue to be talked as per usual. "if it's actual leak (as in character that doesn't appear in story that's available to read openly or not announced the design)" is not ok

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/460645783021289472/1453959958465872003/image.png?ex=694f593b&is=694e07bb&hm=cad680008593a5ff83eddfa0052563e8681a453da4732b6f03a760148ad2f390&
all of these is back on the topic

On the other note, staff told us to collect some feedback so if you have any bug problem feedback, we mods can help convey it to staff

Let me remind everyone again, failure to comply will have you receive a warn or even a ban if you and maybe taken rights to post datamine all together.

To addition, Stop with the "let me dm you" kind of stuff, just don't ever talk about new leak ship that isn't already in the game, engaging with "let me dm you" or "dm me the thing pls" will also make you warnable.

[vale spindle]

wait i thought its 2 additional on top of that

[tranquil rock]

hell yeah

[sweet delta]

No and gear lab priority is updated https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/gear-lab/

[wind hazel]

that's what i thought too but no 😭 it's limit to 2 per account

[viscid swift]

Mori lied to you

[split bramble]

can you show me the gear for your frontline especially mobbing?

[stark quiver]

thats very good

[south sequoia]

The azur lane en memeing team is out, the azur lane datamine team is in

[wind hazel]

i lie sometimes

[viscid swift]

I dunno how either, even machine translated it was pretty explicit

[stark quiver]

sometimes?

[wind hazel]

yes, sometimes

[scarlet cosmos]

can someone show me some example fleets for w14 hard

[sweet delta]

@split bramble I don't have the renhex setup but you can skip to the fleet summary section in this video

[vale spindle]

i did not look at patch notes i just thought thats how core data shop worked

[silver lintel]

Lol is the summon actually good to block stuff

[wind hazel]

yes

[stone sluice]

What SKK stands for?

[viscid swift]

Shikikan

[vale spindle]

i added ur video to my pin btw

[tranquil rock]

shikikan
japanese for commander apparently

[rain bobcat]

waow datamin is back

[stone sluice]

[rain bobcat]

christmas gift

[tranquil rock]

yearning for the mines

i mean

datamines

[south sequoia]

The children yearn for the mines

[wind hazel]

suchi why is your 2nd goldburn unenhanced?

[kind steeple]

How do i send cards in the winter wish thing💔

[sweet delta]

What are the winter card and blessings buffs?

I didn't use them, but people who want another advantage for 14h could use some

[wind hazel]

career you deal extra dmg

[hollow plank]

what abot the others ? like romance etc? what do they do? 😮

[wind hazel]

and bismarck buff has reduced dmg taken. idk others

[ivory pawn]

Romantic was the secretary affinity buff.

[sweet delta]

Does romantic still work over 90 and 100 affinity?

[vale spindle]

it should

thats how people have level 1 oathed ships

[daring flame]

bros how tf do i switch my ships rn

[ivory pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/azur-lane-gif-25770903

[sweet delta]

Richelieu is dorm exp

[viscid swift]

this info and more can be found here
https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vRPJgxnXwC4r3Z8AlbzPUhHDXt0Dr7KP4TPriFnGafQrt1wE7Jb5AdRgfy8tXaLpTC-CtYAVMZgJE0g/pub

[sweet delta]

Do reduce and deal damage work in 14H?

[wind hazel]

yes for career. im not sure for reduced dmg

career buff states it

[sweet delta]

Bidder +13 priority is lowered now because g7e plates can be recycled later into g7e kai.

Type 95 Kai and g7e Kai are competitive with each other depending on the situation, and bidder and g7e are second tier

[wind hazel]

this one doesn't explicitly state it so idk

[vale spindle]

yes i need to overhaul my guides it will be done before the new year

[sweet delta]

Do you trust the explicitly stated?

[viscid swift]

I will have feedback ready for soon tm

[daring flame]

one more thing, what are some good stages to farm exp for research?

like does doing the event stages work

[bright tusk]

Wut best SR BB secondary for w14 hard?
And how to easily kill those suicide ships

[onyx flame]

12-1/4, but event also works albeit worse rates

[viscid swift]

yes but

[daring flame]

🔥 i just dont think i can clear 12 with my doodoo equipments 😭

i have ur ships but i got no equipments

[heavy zealot]

Hmm how good is cowpens

[kind steeple]

How do i send out cards for the winter thing💔🙏

[void walrus]

You have to tap on the confirm card, but it's finicky about tap detection

[viscid swift]

really good

[viscid swift]

you might wnna give this a read then
https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/progression-guide/

[kind steeple]

What card tho

[void walrus]

Just keep at it and you'll get there, probably

[void walrus]

The one with the glowing confirm below it, not any on the selection screen

[sweet delta]

Picture here
https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-14-detailed/#threats-suicide-boats

But for chapter 14 hard, you need a lot more than just picking the best BB aux gun

[inner delta]

i updated the pin for extra info

[kind steeple]

😭where

[void walrus]

Ohhhhh

You already sent out your card for today

[soft raft]

Wishes Left: 0

[kind steeple]

So its like a daily thing?

[void walrus]

Yeah

[kind steeple]

alr thanks gng

[void walrus]

NP

[wind hazel]

bug problem feedbacks. sandiego finally getting fixed

[kind steeple]

[wind hazel]

read yuki's pin update

[sweet delta]

What kind of bugs are the devs willing to listen to more, skin gooning bugs or gameplay bugs on single ships?

And what's the bug submission bot for vs going through discord mods?

Would anyone like to test William d porter damage with single 113 and varying reloads , with and without her skin? We are trying to determine if the skin is pay to lose

[hardy umbra]

Hm?

[verbal plinth]

it was cn said it got fixed

[hardy umbra]

This sounds interesting

[verbal plinth]

if we got the fix is another matter

[split bramble]

when do you guys use the light house?

[rain bobcat]

wasn't it a consensus that the skin technically is pay to lose

[split bramble]

right at the start or when you run out of ammo?

fml

same with the light bullet thingy?

[sweet delta]

I personally don't use flares

[daring flame]

btw bros im sitting at a solid 212 dock space rn should i upgrade 😭

[split bramble]

ahh ok, don't exactly know what that does in the first place

[sweet delta]

What else if not dock space?

[rapid shard]

Did Owaris Halloween skin barrage bug ever get fixed? I seen a report a while back but never seen a mention in patch notes

[daring flame]

skins......

[sweet delta]

I saw a user report abt Owari recently

[split bramble]

i buy rings and dockspace only

[rain bobcat]

fuck owari anyway

[split bramble]

yeah lets fuck her

[onyx flame]

[split bramble]

welp totally forgot to do the last node of essex retro, so I guess I'll do a full clear after it goes down in lethality

[ivory basin]

how to optimize farming in ch12 without using too much oil

im still using a full fleet and it costs 70+ oil every sortie

[stark quiver]

you dont

Theres oil cap if you turn on clearing mode

[whole crypt]

you could try not using less ships if it's not needed to clear

[knotty jolt]

How long have you been farming without clearing mode wtf

[whole crypt]

but once you've cleared there's oil cost cap so that's kind of whatever

[ivory basin]

like 2 months

[viscid swift]

have you 100% cleared it yet?

[wind hazel]

bro what the fuck?

[ivory basin]

yes

[knotty jolt]

This is even more baffling like how does this happen

[viscid swift]

and you turned off clearing mode for some reason?

[verbal plinth]

make sure this is on

[thorn tartan]

is this a 2 or 3 week event?

[viscid swift]

3 week

[thorn tartan]

sweet baby jesus, plenty of time

is the D3 fighter the best fighter for light bosses?

[sullen dew]

Evening, y'all. What are some good mob/boss fleets for 14-3 and 14-4?

[thorn tartan]

i can't even remember what that one was: is that the huge air attack level?

[knotty jolt]

https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-14-brief this provides some examples

[whole crypt]

subs

[sullen dew]

13 has lots of planes, 14 has subs. Lots of subs.

[ivory basin]

i probably forgot to turn it on back then when i was trying to 100% it

[whole crypt]

and BBs that maim you in 2 shots

[wind hazel]

the what

[knotty jolt]

2 months of 12-4 farming without oil cap. I can't imagine how much oil was hemorrhaged.

[wind hazel]

more or less doubled the amount needed

[verbal plinth]

glad you asked tho

[median jetty]

Who are the good common ships for low cost farming of resources?

[wind hazel]

ranger cassins

[viscid swift]

low cost farming where?

[sweet delta]

you need 100% first before clearing mode

[knotty jolt]

Cassin, downes, ranger, Phoenix

Basically ships that have self healing skills

[median jetty]

just simple grinding of event stages

[viscid swift]

yeah which event stages

[median jetty]

all except sp and ex

[viscid swift]

and do you have the cross fleets to make it work

for D1-D3 you don't because they have oil caps

[dusk maple]

where do I get a 2nd hedgehog?

[wind hazel]

nowhere

[viscid swift]

for the normal stages if you wanna do it for the x3 first daily clear bonus you can run 0 limit break Ranger and Cassin/Downes

[whole crypt]

you know you don't fluffs

[median jetty]

I don't I have

[dusk maple]

okay, so just gotta make do with one

[knotty jolt]

Eldridge has a ghost hedgehog

[wind hazel]

is running HE for 14-3H boss fair? or still worse cause of preboss waves

[viscid swift]

then just run Unicorn and a DD then

[whole crypt]

HE should be fine if you have other things that deal with the BBs

[split bramble]

for hard? I remember whittling down the lethality while doing 15-4 then did a full clear at secure

[whole crypt]

if you can wait I can probably test some shit tonight but I don't expect 14-3 to be a real issue

danger levels do not go down before 100% for any mode

you're mixing up clearing and starring

[split bramble]

ohhhh

yeah fair, was confused

[sweet delta]

i wouldn't want to test shit

[median jetty]

I'm worried bout the decrease morale and i don't have any other cvl healer than her, is cowpens worth to get as an extra healer or should I build vestal instead?

[whole crypt]

repair ships are shit as healers

[viscid swift]

Vestal isn't a healer

[silent bluff]

Where to farm core data?

[viscid swift]

and it's just 6 extra clears a day

[whole crypt]

also morale goes down regardless of using 1:1 or full fleet it makes no difference

[knotty jolt]

Hard mode and you're limited to 3 runs a day

[split bramble]

wish they actually put useful stuff in the core shop, got so much and no where to spend it

[viscid swift]

campaign hard mode is your only source

[silent bluff]

Oh okay, thank you

[wind hazel]

spam breguets and build your fleet power

oxytorp to the maxxxxxx

[viscid swift]

I would do that with AFCTs if I could grumble grumble

[split bramble]

maxed all backlines now going through cl and ca

[whole crypt]

he means buy gold gear to fill your ships up for fleet power, which is practically useless

[split bramble]

oh yeah, fair enough

[wind hazel]

hoarding core data is even more useless

[whole crypt]

I prefer big currency numbers to a leaderboard I can't be shit to look at

oh right shop reset already lemme grab chips

[viscid swift]

what

[whole crypt]

for whatever reason they reset the shop, at least I think that was in the notes

[knotty jolt]

Btw for those have cleared w14h how much core date does it give you? Wiki yet to update that page.

[viscid swift]

they didn't for EN

[median jetty]

I see, then is there any other healer worth getting aside from unicorn

[viscid swift]

I think they just the shop was going to reset at the usual time

[whole crypt]

either they did for JP or I didn't remember to buy them earlier this month

[viscid swift]

Cowpens

[whole crypt]

to be fair there's still a 6 day timer to shop refresh so maybe I just forgot

[wanton spear]

whats the best UR to exchange right now?

[knotty jolt]

I'm assuming 32 if the pattern on the wiki is anything to go by

[viscid swift]

Musashi

[noble pawn]

Do people still use this CB gun?

[whole crypt]

on GL yes

[sweet delta]

Do people still use CBs?

[whole crypt]

even if you used CBs most of them use the larger AP CB guns anyway

[noble pawn]

I haven't got Guam gun

[wanton spear]

iis it better by a significant amount?

[whole crypt]

Agir gun exists

[whole crypt]

that depends on what you have and what you're comparing to

[wind hazel]

it's the most useful UR ship to get from the available exchange options

[noble pawn]

Agir gun good?

[wanton spear]

i have mostly USS ships if that matters

[whole crypt]

guam gun > kronshtadt gun > agir gun to be accurate, you can craft kronshtadt gun in lab now too but I'm not sure what the reqs are

[noble pawn]

low level like me do still use CB

[whole crypt]

the margin between kroshtadt gun and agir gun isn't that big though

[onyx flame]

guam next month anywa

[wind hazel]

🔥

[onyx flame]

48 electronics yeesh

[whole crypt]

what gun is that

[wind hazel]

yeah no need to craft. just buy guam gun next month lol

[knotty jolt]

Kronk

[viscid swift]

compared to 12 Ordinance reports for the Agir gun

[forest palm]

Kron's

[whole crypt]

no, the required one

[knotty jolt]

[whole crypt]

the one you don't have

[wind hazel]

some shit gun

[whole crypt]

a lab exclusive gun upgraded from gangut gun?

[wind hazel]

think so

[noble pawn]

aww hell nah gangut gun

[whole crypt]

just wait for guam gun

or buy PR4 gear prints for agir gun

[onyx flame]

you can get it from np boxes now but i havent seen any yet

[wind hazel]

let's play a game

[forest palm]

Let's go gambling

[viscid swift]

count the NP tech boxes?

[wind hazel]

4 of them

ngl opening 20 box to only get 4 choice feel really shit

[viscid swift]

oh yeah, we finally have a Gold DB that's better than the Helldiver

[onyx flame]

just means you need less

[viscid swift]

only against slowed or stationary bosses and is also expensive to craft so

[cobalt robin]

holy electronics you got

[whole crypt]

normal for 👴

[forest palm]

it's not that much

[cobalt robin]

i have 2 to my name so its a lot

[noble pawn]

3k T1 BP lol

[knotty jolt]

I've ran out of electronics

[viscid swift]

that's more electronics than me though I have been on a spending spree recently

[forest palm]

I went crazy an crafted 10 Quad 152s

[cobalt robin]

not tryna flex but

[knotty jolt]

Wish I could trade in my metals and shit to other materials

[stark quiver]

im prob gonna get my 5 plyguns too

[whole crypt]

I'm not crafting q152s because I don't have the plates to +13 them

[wind hazel]

you +13 more than 1 plygun?

[cobalt robin]

i wish i was 👴

[whole crypt]

I have 3 I think

[forest palm]

stat sticks don't need to be +13

[wind hazel]

feel like that's such a waste

[whole crypt]

I have stat sticks I want more for vanguards

[viscid swift]

you should see how many Suchi left at +0

[whole crypt]

low power FP gaming

[rigid onyx]

i just crafted 3 more plyguns today

[forest palm]

outside of the Ords, Quad 152s are pretty cheap on electronics

[rigid onyx]

i think 2 +13 is enough

[slow fox]

Mebot refuses to do DPS

[rigid onyx]

is any of the new gear actually decent outside of g7ekai

[wind hazel]

how many CL you guys use

[stark quiver]

0\

[viscid swift]

0

[whole crypt]

also I swapped to 155kai for my 14-4H boss fleet

[viscid swift]

for late game players anyway

[whole crypt]

rainbow G7e is also not decent

[stone sluice]

Delayed reply

[whole crypt]

I have to admit 14-4 hard is the first time I actually noticed a difference between 155kai and q152 for interception

[rigid onyx]

plymouth, bayard, chappy, d7p, helena, helena shimanto are the only ones i touch and half of those are campaign ships

[forest palm]

is the UR G7e disappointing, or?

[viscid swift]

it's not a clear upgrade over the 95 kai

[whole crypt]

it's a bit more damage but apparently a bit slower
not an issue if you're using fishpack/404 I guess

[forest palm]

sounds like it's not worth the investment for an already established set up

then again who the fuck uses Torp plates

[whole crypt]

but it's also rainbow so if you're already using +13 bidders or 95ks then it's really whatever

stiggy said 95k should still be better for boss

[rigid onyx]

i mean to be honest there's no reason to pre build any gear lab item before it improves something tangible (meta fight win rate, campaign, etc)

maybe they'll make subs useful

[viscid swift]

ha, making gameplay improvements

[whole crypt]

subs are already useful where they are and rainbow G7e doesn't really improve that

[forest palm]

Skypirate was one of the biggest cope crafts

[versed forum]

is new db from gearlab better than event db?

[viscid swift]

they do different things

the event DB is a fast/4 strike DB in meta showdowns

the skip bomber is better than the Helldiver but worse than the Tenrai against a slowed/stopped boss

[random rain]

are there any resources/guides for the island planner thing?

[scarlet cosmos]

So i know that daisen is a good sr bb, but what makes her good?

[onyx flame]

prob in #1422463299877867540

[viscid swift]

good damage, against light armor

[random rain]

cool, thankss

[ocean terrace]

is BB flagship necessary for boss fleets for W13, 14 and 15?
as in, can I run 3 CV boss fleet for them?

[noble pawn]

W13 isn't any different with W12, I'm pretty sure you need BB flagships for suicied boats W14 or later

[viscid swift]

no for W13 but

[scarlet cosmos]

I see, is she still good against medium and heavy?

[viscid swift]

not as notable in that regard

[scarlet cosmos]

Tyty

[ocean terrace]

I assumed that's for mob fleet though

[soft raft]

Strongly not recommended to 3CV due to the fact that you need more DPS to get to the boss quick enough before the mob trash whittle you down

[soft raft]

read the first sentence again

[ocean terrace]

I meant the suicide ships for W14 and above, surely that only applies to mob fleet?

[viscid swift]

no

[ocean terrace]

so boss fleet throws plenty of suicide ships at you

[viscid swift]

yes

[ocean terrace]

got it ty

[viscid swift]

boss fights in late campaign stages are basically glorified mob fights

[ocean terrace]

so having an abundance of good CVs would only really help for bossing then, rather than campaign

[viscid swift]

what

[wind hazel]

having good CV will help you everywhere

[ocean terrace]

well my BBs are comparatively worse than my CV options so I was wondering if I could make triple CV work in campaign

[viscid swift]

you'll get good BBs soon enough

the devs release at least 2 new UR BBs a year

[ocean terrace]

right but for now my CVs will be useful for only opsi bossing pretty much

[viscid swift]

you're gonna be running 2 fleets with 6 main fleet slots total

[soft raft]

You'd have basically zero suicide boat protection with a 3CV Backline

And those can easily fuck over your backline if too many of them slip thru

Not to mention your CVs taking damage also exposes them to enemy bombardment

[cobalt robin]

use cvl with gun mount

[ocean terrace]

right and I have 6 CVs that are better than my 2 BBs that are in use lol

[viscid swift]

gonna press x to doubt on that

[ocean terrace]

well, better that them in the long run

[soft raft]

And who exactly are these 8 ships in particular?

[ocean terrace]

I doubt I'll be using Kotori and Maryland retro lategame

[viscid swift]

you should be working toward Mecklenburg as we speak

[ocean terrace]

whereas Lex II, Cowpens, Independence, Enty (transitional I know), Unicorn will be used for a while

[viscid swift]

among other things

[soft raft]

You definitely don't sound like you're in a position to even be worrying about late game right now then

Do you even have FdG yet?

[ocean terrace]

oh for sure but they won't suffice for W14 and W15 at least

[ocean terrace]

working towards the tech rn

[cobalt robin]

are you even done with 13?

[ocean terrace]

research is running smoothly I think

[rigid onyx]

i mean leveling good ships isnt really a bottleneck for endgame

[ocean terrace]

no but I've started it, just using oil on event atm, though I doubt I'll struggle with the rest of the stages

[wind hazel]

just chill lol you have no reason to rush w14 w15

[stark quiver]

you cant rush w14

[wind hazel]

you will need gear on top of ships. just having the ships don't guarantee anything

[cobalt robin]

you can

[ocean terrace]

guess so, just frustrating I have to wait for some good BBs
forgive my impatience

[stark quiver]

everyone waited for good ships here

[rigid onyx]

you can level good bb fleet tech

[tropic tusk]

After 1 month I finally drop hotson2 my shittly luck finally landed

[cobalt robin]

well i didnt have to wait, the stars aligned for me with lion and zwei rerun

[stark quiver]

i dropped her withina day

[viscid swift]

I had to wait 6 months for my first UR

[rose whale]

My first table is on musashi, who is worthy of the second one?

[rigid onyx]

how is spoot w/o retro w/ aug

[stark quiver]

bad

[tropic tusk]

Wt a lucky guy

Oh ya whts the luck stats for anyway?

[rigid onyx]

does spoot aug even work with non retro skills

[stark quiver]

i never spent more than 2 days on map drops lmfao

[stark quiver]

who do you have

[rose whale]

I still don't have Houston 2 😭

[rose whale]

All the ur and dr

[wind hazel]

the 2nd bb you're using

[tropic tusk]

Where is the best place to farm ships and money? Beside 12. Is it 13?

[wind hazel]

farm ships?

[stark quiver]

13-4

[tropic tusk]

Farm ship level

[wind hazel]

12-4

[rigid onyx]

12-1, 12-4, or x-1 if cog bottlenecked

[tropic tusk]

Whts 13.4 for?

[wind hazel]

for coin

13-4 needs some carry, so you cannot be farming exp for 12 ships like how you can in 12-4

[rigid onyx]

cowpens is enough of a carry rn though so

[tropic tusk]

I see...well back to 12 it is

[wind hazel]

well we're talking about lv100 across both fleets here

cowpens alone won't compensate that in 13-4

[tropic tusk]

I was thinking 75 with decent gear

[wind hazel]

that's even worse LOL

[tropic tusk]

That's how I did my 12-4 grinds lol

[wind hazel]

it will 100% die by 3rd or 4th fight in 13-4. that's being optimistic

[tropic tusk]

Book them to lvl75 then equip gear with unicorn

[rigid onyx]

what is the book managemnet for that

[wind hazel]

just remove unicorn

[rigid onyx]

i can book my ships to l100 immediately to level

[tropic tusk]

I book them cause I also want their affinity to reach max

[glacial widget]

How much better is the coin in 13-4 vs 12-4?

[rapid shard]

Ive been grinding 13-4 leveling ships. Youll need at least one carry (Uni or cowpens) for heals and lv100 with good gear minimum. And one of the ships needs to be at least decent for AA

[tropic tusk]

So 75 and level them up a bit is more then enough

[rigid onyx]

100 --> 120 is more than enough for 100 affin

[tropic tusk]

Cause when I hit 100 I'll just book to 120

[rigid onyx]

????

[cobalt robin]

[tropic tusk]

[cobalt robin]

does bro have a million books?

[wind hazel]

7.08 vs 7.91 per oil

[rapid shard]

Roughly 2k per clear from 12-4 and roughly 2.6k per clear from 13-4 if memory serves

[rigid onyx]

several people are typing

[lofty thistle]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[tropic tusk]

My books are always maxing out

[cobalt robin]

how? if you just book them from 100 to 120 then you wouldnt be producing any books

[rigid onyx]

thats the wrong order....

[wind hazel]

do it this way
pick 12 ships you wanna level
book everyone to lv100
use these 12 ships in 12-4
profit

[rigid onyx]

The Lecture Hall is a training facility that generates EXP Packs. A percentage of EXP gained by Level 100+ ships during sorties (10% to 22% depending on upgrade level, double on Sundays)

wtf double on sundays

[tropic tusk]

I'll try it that way then

Wait y 12

[rigid onyx]

0 -- 100 is also significatly less than 100 --> 120 so i have no idea how you have books

[wind hazel]

why not 12

[cobalt robin]

rotate between 2 fleets

[wind hazel]

you have two fleets, make use of it

[scarlet cosmos]

Is it possible to clear chapter 15 w/o urs

[tropic tusk]

Wait so U rotate...means no rest I got it

[stark quiver]

yes

[rain bobcat]

[wind hazel]

no that's not the rotate

[rapid shard]

W12 you can throw anything at for the most part and it clears no issue

[rigid onyx]

boss fleet mob fleet both level

[rose whale]

I always grind ship level in 13 4,using a few 115+ to level the 100+. This way I always have good ships that can carry the newer ones

[rigid onyx]

i brainrot 120+ affection farm c1 farm between

[wind hazel]

your mob fleet will gain more exp, and will reach lv120 sooner than your boss fleet.
when that happens, you switch out the mob fleet, take the boss fleet ships and put to mob, and put in new ones in the boss fleet, hence rotation

[tropic tusk]

Oh I see

I was just thinking 1 fleet fight all

[rain bobcat]

anyway, bottom line is, if you eat coins like snorolax, 12-4 vs 14-4/13-4 is very noticeable

[wind hazel]

you can do that but imo it's not efficient for the rotation. and it wasn't as efficient due to out of ammo, which i guess now is fixed thanks to new system

[rigid onyx]

my 'cycle' for when im at work but can use phone/emulator is 12-1, 13-1, or 15-1, 3x sortie, c1 repeat for 20 minutes, back to campaign

[rose whale]

If they are strong enough, that work too. I have just one fleet for 13 4 right now

[rapid shard]

I blame you for me swapping to 13-4 farming, once shimanto is coinable and I can FS5 ill be trying your 14-4 setups

[tropic tusk]

Well might as well give the 2 fleet a try

Thx guys

[rigid onyx]

its useful for affection somewhat

with the ammo pickup its kind of not as useful as before in terms of fleet requirments

[rose whale]

Dang both my pr8 drs just hit 125 when i talk. Time to replace them with lex2 and porter

[upbeat wagon]

datamines unbanned?

[glacial widget]

I’m so confused what this means.

I’ve been playing for years just running 12-4 ad nauseum lmao

[rigid onyx]

the x-1 stages at w12+ give more cog chips per oil

i dont need coins, i mostly 'need' ship exp and cogs

[rose whale]

Meanwhile I'm always need coin. Being poor and all

Only have 15k right now

[wind hazel]

manage your finance better

[glacial widget]

I must be doing something wrong because Coin is practically the only resource im always in need of, between awakening ships, enhancing gear, research, pulling during events

[wind hazel]

but pulling for new ships will somewhat affect your stash

[rose whale]

I grind to 200k coin then new banner drain them all, repeat...

[tropic tusk]

The effect I have on top left, that one helps my SECRETARY grow past 90 right?

[wind hazel]

dont quote me but i dont think so

[tropic tusk]

[wind hazel]

you can try

[onyx flame]

it supposely does? someone mention its how people got lvl1 with 100 affinity

[tropic tusk]

Fk when can I grow my lvl1 unicorn to 100 so I can put a ring on her

[wind hazel]

there are events that have those buff, but im not sure if this is one of those

[tropic tusk]

I'll update U after event

See if it goes 91 at least

[wind hazel]

imma try it too. not sure why my subs is 97 wtf scammed

[tropic tusk]

But are U putting her on battles

[wind hazel]

no, only as crossfleets, on standby

[tropic tusk]

One day she will be 100

[onyx flame]

i mean she alr can be cant she all you gott do is give her gifts from island planner

[tropic tusk]

Really?

[onyx flame]

if you click on crush there an option to gift yea? just gotta procure the items from island planner

[tropic tusk]

Where is this crush option

[onyx flame]

the one in the ship menu where you click to check affinity or to oath them

[tropic tusk]

wait I'll check on it in abit

[onyx flame]

for uni, 1 affinity for the gold items she likes

[tropic tusk]

I think I have 0 of those item

Didn't play island planner

[onyx flame]

if your planning to swipe up the gifts only it should in theory be pretty quick since they are pretty cheap and you can only buy so many

[tropic tusk]

U mean inside the island planner?

[onyx flame]

yea

[tropic tusk]

Imma try that later

I forgot to opsi today and the reset timer is in 20min

[rain bobcat]

ply/z52 is better for 14-4 carry btw

[warped acorn]

would this one better than twin 155 or twin 155 kai for w14/15?

[rain bobcat]

shimanto works fine, ply/z52 just seems to get away with more

[rain bobcat]

and this kids is why you run 14-4

im never under 300k and I make back the event 300k within 3 weeks

[wind hazel]

but you can get more if you run 13-4 with the same oil..

[stark quiver]

im at 300k divided by 10

[keen flower]

never knew exercise gives this much free exp

i always assumed it required mood

[plain saffron]

Man_freed_from _chain.png

[rain bobcat]

im a fleet power farmer

[whole crypt]

we're free stiggy where's the rG7e sims

[rain bobcat]

it was all an act to ban rice

[whole crypt]

rice was banned before the datamine shit though, if you know you know

[rain bobcat]

isn't it technically datamine since he pulled the stats out

[wind hazel]

isn't that more the reason to run 13-4??

so that you can get more coin... more efficient coin/oil

[whole crypt]

it wasn't only the stats I'm fairly sure he's posted shit he's been explicitly told not to, like early T15 clips

[slow fox]

mutsukistare

[wind hazel]

not the stats yes, it was for sharing that he fought lv15 fights using simulators

[ocean terrace]

if my vanguard is Roon, San Diego, Kurumi for mob and Tohka, Helena and Yamai twins for boss, who should be getting my best AA guns in order?

[rain bobcat]

sandy then noone matters

[ocean terrace]

the others are what I wanted to know

[onyx flame]

just roomba em

[rain bobcat]

technically sandy then helena but even helena isn't that good on AA

[ocean terrace]

my AA guns are so poverty atm

[viscid swift]

fucking off to somewhere for a month

he won't be active for that time period

[ocean terrace]

1 gold roomba, 2 gold twin 105mm sk c/33, rest are purple roombas or quad bofors

[forest palm]

unless you are fighting world 12 ~ 13 ~ 15 you won't need to overly stress about AA

[ocean terrace]

good thing I'm fighting W13 aha

[wind hazel]

it's really sandy roomba, and the rest don't matter type of case you're having

just split the 105 between your mob and boss

and fill the rest with bofor/roomba

[ocean terrace]

got it ty

[forest palm]

your CV(L) will mostly make up the difference

[wind hazel]

use circle formation

[ocean terrace]

oh right formations have their own buffs

[rapid shard]

Waiting for ply coining but thats gonna take a min, im at FS4 with Shim right now

[rain bobcat]

shimanto my goat

[ocean terrace]

should I only level research ships through combat once they're dev30

[forest palm]

if you can manage it it doesn't matter what dev level they are

[stark quiver]

i got meck to 125/200 when she was dev like 0 or 15 i forgot

[ocean terrace]

but meck is meck

[forest palm]

as I said

[whole crypt]

if you're just leveling and raising affinity the dev level doesn't matter, as long as the rest of the fleet can carry

[stark quiver]

and meck is shit at not dev 30

[ocean terrace]

does it matter if they sink?

[whole crypt]

yes it does

[rapid shard]

Dev20-25 works just fine leveling. They didn't feel like a "weight" I was dragging along

[stark quiver]

of course you lose morale and xp for entire fleet

[whole crypt]

which is why "the rest of the fleet can carry"

a ship can survive dev0, but you'll need to raise the level first with dorm and/or XP packs, and possibly durability gear

[stark quiver]

i did rudder toolkit

[whole crypt]

main fleet ships are at much lower risk too as long as you don't try to run with no AA in 12

[rigid onyx]

they should, its how people get l1 oaths

im not sure if past 100 if oathed

[whole crypt]

off the top of my head unique and or some other folks tested it does go past 100, but it's very slow after 90

the theory is the blessing adds an additional affection increase on top of secretary, so you get to 90 faster, but it still goes up independent of the normal secretary increase after 90

[hoary relic]

can traf tank?

[onyx flame]

she's like slightly below port in ehp so

[noble pawn]

just realized that AFCT is available for limited copy

[midnight bluff]

hows ch. 14 hard mode. Is it quite a a step up from ch 13 hardmode just like 13 norm to 14 norm?

[whole crypt]

if you knew/remember how much a bump 14 was from 13, you'll feel the same with 14HM

[smoky citrus]

Guys, I need help. Doing the askahi quest and I got ot the shop thing and I'm in shiranui shop yet cant find paw

[whole crypt]

as is usual 14-1 and 14-2 are still easy though

[hoary relic]

use YT bro...............

[midnight bluff]

Its been forever since clearing 14. Is there a recommended steamroll comp for 14 hm

[smoky citrus]

? Im on the wiki, what can youtube show me that the site cant

[whole crypt]

you don't need to actually find the paws, they're just clues to how to start the quest line

[smoky citrus]

No, I mean I am in the quest

[ocean terrace]

sorry but could someone send lars db

[whole crypt]

Musashi, Aquila, the works, 14-1 and 2 aren't that hard if you're just looking to do a ch14 for more cores

[hoary relic]

the paws are your final reward iirc

[onyx flame]

https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/

[smoky citrus]

Crud, means the paw prints to collect

[midnight bluff]

What about 14-3/14-4?

[hoary relic]

just search on YT , i used YT to do that quest..............

dont tell me u cant find any vids abt akashi quest on YT

[whole crypt]

14-3 I haven't tried but 14-4 depends heavily on what you have and how much you can/are willing to manual

[midnight bluff]

Eww manual. Prob just gonna chill with 14-1/14-2 then

[whole crypt]

like it's possible to auto but you're heavily subject to RNG for surviving BB shots

[smoky citrus]

Yeah no. I's not there

[onyx flame]

isnt this it

[smoky citrus]

....FUCK

Thanks, i was looking down near the bottom cause the wiki had it there

[wind hazel]

wiki had old shop

[onyx flame]

wiki got the old shop layout

[ocean terrace]

Divergent Chessboard > Scherzo of Iron and Blood for IB tech right?

[limber oriole]

Does anyone have the wiki link for the torp reload requirement on speed dial? I remember seeing one that had a chart showcasing the needed reloaded to meet a certain amount of salvos for a subs given oxy count but i cant remember the name of of the page

[wind hazel]

https://suchiguma.github.io/deepresearch/submarine-calculator

[limber oriole]

Thank you very much

[narrow arch]

Alright gang big question

Im at level 51 almost 52, ive gotten to the point where I need to be level 60 to progress, what is yalls recommendations to level up

[whole crypt]

the event

[narrow arch]

Oh alr

[onyx flame]

by the time the events over your have more than enough commander lvl to be access w9+

[split bramble]

@sweet delta thanks for your help done it with this comp

[rapid summit]

Does w14 have some kind of gimmick or planes or something like w13 does?

[split bramble]

sub hell

[viscid swift]

Subs are probably one of the least threatening aspects of the chapter

[viscid swift]

https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-14-detailed

Might wanna give that a read

[split bramble]

its more of a you need to equip some asw equipment, but also making sure your ship can survive

[uneven cave]

Any reason to craft skip bombers

[split bramble]

whats a skip bomber?

[knotty jolt]

we didn't have a reason with the purple one, we still dont with the gold one

[split bramble]

seaplanes?

[uneven cave]

a bomber with bombs that skip on the surface

[knotty jolt]

Skip bombers are essentially torpedo bombers pretending to be dive bombers

[split bramble]

then no clue, don't remember seeing them

[knotty jolt]

Their first appearance was a purple french aircraft in the gear labs

[wind hazel]

no

[uneven cave]

how does the prio go for guns now? i see ply gun so i assume that's at the top, but i also see chappy gun and it looks far cheaper than mogkai and seattle guns

[forest palm]

155 Kai is still cheaper, and simpler to make, so it depends on your main fleet situation

[split bramble]

the only one I remember from that update is the ur aa

[knotty jolt]

imo still a good pickup but the progression to it isn't the nicest, having to go through a neptune gun

[sharp furnace]

Hello, anyone know when I can expect to use coins instead of blueprints for PR5?

[wind hazel]

next month ish

[uneven cave]

how come? cause 155 costs 6 ordnance and gun parts

[silver lintel]

Full auto?

[forest palm]

you can get a 155 fairly commonly, Mk 17 DP and Mk-5 are still weaker than the 155 Kai, though you can craft Quad 152s but their prio is honestly mid to low

[weak dust]

is it better to use HE or AP on CV type boss?

[stark quiver]

AP most of the time

[split bramble]

yep

[wind hazel]

ap considering there's no Light CV from what i know

[forest palm]

there are light CV I think

[wind hazel]

who

[stark quiver]

Me

[weak dust]

ty

[wind hazel]

true i can carry you with 1 hand

[forest palm]

centaur or something

[wind hazel]

she's medium

[uneven cave]

also how is the new rainbow sub torp

[wind hazel]

... i dont think we fight centaur too

[forest palm]

there's 2, and both are collab ships that will never see the light of day

[viscid swift]

It's at C for new skk in the gear lab guide

[uneven cave]

ah ok thanks

[lyric stump]

How tf u do 14-3h. I did 14-4 but cant do 14-3 at all

[wind hazel]

same strat really

[lyric stump]

But i cant do it kept failing the boss

[wind hazel]

what are you using

[wind hazel]

try move traf to boss, and maybe not raff. try essex or amagi. im running lion amagi essex and just cleared first one

[sweet delta]

How do you know Trafalgar is mob

[wind hazel]

cause it would be cursed to not have unicorn on mob

[tender lotus]

Any guide for H14-4?

[wind hazel]

please dont prove me wrong

[sweet delta]

I mean he is like alpha so it wouldn't be surprising even if cursed

[rain bobcat]

top is prob mob

[wind hazel]

is raff fleet really your mob? 😭

[lyric stump]

Traf is on boss

[rain bobcat]

I dont think bot could do 7 mobs

[wind hazel]

fuck me upside down

[lyric stump]

Ya why

[rain bobcat]

told ya

[lyric stump]

I have ti bring a cvl

[wind hazel]

because why do you have unicorn for boss then, and why is traf tanking

[lyric stump]

I have to have 4 dd to do that torp requurement

[wind hazel]

did it cross your mind that you can use fleet 2 as mob?

and you can swap the BB around to make it so that fleet 2 is your mob, WITH unicorn

[lyric stump]

Ok i shall try

Any suggestion on comp tho?

[wind hazel]

there's a lot of things that work

im running this from 14-4. some use bayard

[lyric stump]

Its just my dd die too fast

[wind hazel]

it's usually the boss that gives trouble, mob is the easier part unless you wanna clear all for some reason

[lyric stump]

They eat a torp and kaboom dead

[versed elk]

I started using bisko2 with my mob fleet it's pretty peak

[lyric stump]

And i have to use dd for the requirement

[wind hazel]

[versed elk]

with the out of ammo thing

[wind hazel]

yea maybe it's because your unicorn was in the boss fleet

[tender lotus]

Are suchi & jimmy's fleet work with lower tech and 100 affinity?

[wind hazel]

😭 like bro

[versed elk]

i don't actually know what rafaello does so i just swapped her out

[versed elk]

the boss fleets should work, for mob 3 star on 14-3 may be hard

[tender lotus]

What about H14-4?

[versed elk]

14-4 3star should be easier cuz of ammo node

[versed elk]

but tbh the fun is making your own fleets

[rain bobcat]

how low can you go i wonder

[lyric stump]

Better？

[wind hazel]

no, worse

[versed elk]

why uvh she's useless

[rain bobcat]

uvh is dead weight

[versed elk]

the desync is good yes but it's like so mid

[lyric stump]

ok

u gimme boss comp

[versed elk]

my mob is bisko2 lion unicorn z52 bayard shimanto

it's all the same really just use lion, a flag bb, healer, dd/cl with asw

[lyric stump]

This is 14-3 btw. Its just idk y but my vanguard die much faster then ones in videos

[versed elk]

need to see gear your fleet looks fine for 14-3 if u have tech

[shadow yarrow]

Is there a better EX fleet than this
musashi using the meck gun

[wind hazel]

you can try this boss

[versed elk]

beaver on middle ship monkaW

is amagi2 better than rumey/independence

[wind hazel]

idk, you can try it

or i try it next, last attempt for today

[versed elk]

my boss is lion essex indep guam ply eldridge rn

i got 2 attempts left used 1 to do a full 14-3 clear

[lyric stump]

Pls show cv gear tysm

[versed elk]

i'm thinking of using spearfish

[wind hazel]

you can, i just prefer this for nicer stagger

[lyric stump]

Ima swap some skyraider cause 14-3 is dd boss

[versed elk]

yeah, i have like 3 spearfish +13ed for pvp

[lyric stump]

Y extinguisher?

[versed elk]

backline is set on fire

[wind hazel]

reduce burn

[sweet delta]

Open your eyes

[lyric stump]

I saw most of it is normal shells

[versed elk]

u can see the backline on fire when they take damage randomly without things shooting at them

[wind hazel]

also my acv turned red with fritz or indep so im not gonna try 💀 lazy switch vanguard

[lyric stump]

I just see they got cross shit and die immediately

[versed elk]

mine also red ngl i only have superiority

i wanna force the double lion so im just trying random things in mob/boss for fun

[lyric stump]

Trying again now

[wind hazel]

bruh are you even using the same fleet

[lyric stump]

Ya

[wind hazel]

i dont believe you anymore

[lyric stump]

Here except i use york 2 again

I changed boss according to u guys saying 2 cv

[wind hazel]

yeah wtf is agir sandiego doing there, with raff+lion

are you allergic to just copy pasting people's suggestion

[lyric stump]

U didnt even show me gear for napoli and literal they do same job

[wind hazel]

cause you asked for the CV only

[versed elk]

agir is so much less tanky bro...

[lyric stump]

Raff and lion is my mob

[wind hazel]

i know

so why are they together in mob

[lyric stump]

Because that was the mob i copied from?

Gimme ur mob also then

So i change everything

[versed elk]

gonna try this rn

[lyric stump]

I dont have 3 la9

[silent bluff]

Are there anything I can buy on core (mo.) for lex2 or yorktown2?

[wind hazel]

can use bf109g

[small rune]

hi guys i just came back from 6 month long hiatus, can someone sitrep me on the meta bb/cv/mixed fleet for bossing?

including the vanguard ships

[wind hazel]

or just flapjacks

[versed elk]

yeah ive basically just been using flapjacks or la9s

[lyric stump]

Also y tenrai when enemy boss is dd

[wind hazel]

skyraider is really slow, and there are pre waves before boss

[versed elk]

helps to clear earlier mob stages

[lyric stump]

Also no 3rd tenrai

[versed elk]

just craft it lmao

[wind hazel]

use TB

amagi and essex have flex slots

[small rune]

also is there any way to get essex UR item

[wind hazel]

you wait 8 months

[elder spindle]

What is absolutely best boss fleet for 14-4 hard? I have every ship and everyone from pr 8 at max research/

[onyx flame]

wait till it rerun next en anni

[versed elk]

idk people r still testing just see whats good and use it lol

[stark quiver]

Bro my boss fleet cvs were perfectly in sync

[lyric stump]

Y so heavy asw

[lyric stump]

I dont have material

[wind hazel]

bro open your eyes fr fr

[versed elk]

trolling man

[lyric stump]

U have 2 asw gear on dd y u need that plane

[wind hazel]

i dont wanna take my chances

[versed elk]

extra asw good on out of ammo node

[lyric stump]

Ok

[wind hazel]

1 sub leak and it will cripple half hp away from your backline

[onyx flame]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/460645783021289472/1453713165115330692/2k.gif

[wind hazel]

granted this is less likely because 14-3

[stark quiver]

Did you normal clear mori forest

[wind hazel]

ye

oil is so 📈 pre clear, no good reason to waste it

[lyric stump]

Now i fixed

[wind hazel]

good luck have fun

[lyric stump]

No need manual right?

[versed elk]

if you have the requisite gear and tech no need

[wind hazel]

i full auto. remember your meowfficers too

[lyric stump]

I used 4 random pirate cat

[wind hazel]

[versed elk]

you mean kidd and drake?

genuinely not even bad

[lyric stump]

And 2 other ones

[wind hazel]

use at least drake every and teach

[lyric stump]

Drake every on boss

Kidd roberts on mob

[wind hazel]

mob part is easy, shouldnt have issue

[versed elk]

if ur not aiming for lethal 3 star mob isnt a problem cus u have ammo for all on 14-4

[lyric stump]

Am doing 14-3 again and i did 14-4 yesterday it was much easier

[versed elk]

because you have ammo my brother

[lyric stump]

True

[wind hazel]

he failed on boss though

[versed elk]

oh he failed 14-4 boss? lmao

[lyric stump]

True again

[wind hazel]

14-3h boss

[stark quiver]

Is 14-4 hard actually hard

[versed elk]

not really it's just tedious and stat checky for good accounts

[wind hazel]

the boss somewhat hard

[versed elk]

also have you not done it alpha

[stark quiver]

Of course I have
I wasn’t able to lethal full clear tho

[versed elk]

lock in

[lyric stump]

Cn was doing single fleet clears idfk

[stark quiver]

Cn is cn

[versed elk]

i dont really care what cn does im gonna be honest they probably have maxed tech already and im not close to that