gameplay-help

[wind hazel]

that's cheaper than what i use for SP fr lol

[whole crypt]

120/125 Bulin may or may not be better than Mahans for D3

[wind hazel]

i really really doubt they can

[whole crypt]

Mahans suffer hugely from no tech and level advantage for low cost D3

[rigid onyx]

you'll need on the order of 150k oil to get 5 drops @150 oil/run

[wind hazel]

what are you using? this is really cheap

[rigid onyx]

ranger downes could do yorkii event by a small margin

[whole crypt]

that's lower than I thought I'd have

[wind hazel]

or maybe im calculating it wrong lol cause SP 7 battle

[whole crypt]

mahan D3 is a hit or miss

[woven star]

I made 115 oil fleet for d3. No success for ranger+down 0lb. So I made something close

[rigid onyx]

22 oil per uni + ddg battle, 10 to enter

[rapid shard]

What you running?

[onyx flame]

its 150 oil per run for d3 with uni + og laff cause i aint got no ddg or crossfleet to go cheaper

[woven star]

Klaudia 0lb + FuShun

[wind hazel]

cursed klaudia 0lb

[white agate]

welp, 35k points and 11 HVAR prints

[woven star]

I think 0lb perseus can be relevant too

[whole crypt]

it isn't, I've tried

[rapid shard]

Ive got crossfleets so ill give the normal low cost setup a try tomorrow or so. If not my 425 x3 runs should be enough

[whole crypt]

just keeping this as a memo

[woven star]

Yeah. I left one copy for Klaudia 0lb cos have preheal with 6 oil cost. Plus her auxiliaries for shield

[rain bobcat]

im closing on 2hvar within 60k

[whole crypt]

I did 1 with 0 points

[inland shoal]

I think I'm at 5 prints in 20k pts

[white agate]

i even used the x2 booster for 12 runs after not getting a hvar in 21 runs, still at 0 since then

[wind hazel]

rage farm lul

[rapid shard]

all ive been doing for last 3 days

[whole crypt]

108 oil/run

[forest palm]

sitting at 56 prints at 40k points, I feel like of that I had 20 ~ 23 prior coming into the event

[rigid onyx]

random chance is a lot more 'streaky' than many's intuition would presume

[white agate]

one day i'll bait fate

[rain bobcat]

bulin is god

[fluid flower]

True

[whole crypt]

and yes it's tested, with gear and tech you may or may not have

[gilded carbon]

Wich Ships make the most Out of the ur-Torp aux? Assuming its not only used to buffer Stats for stage-requirements

[wind hazel]

mostly subs, and ship that scale with trp

[forest palm]

Subs(?)

[whole crypt]

some subs
vanguards that won't die when looked at the wrong way in a boss fight and has good scaling with TRP

[forest palm]

I only ever use Oxy on ships I'm leveling

[gilded carbon]

Does it make more sense then survival-aux

[forest palm]

generally, no

[wind hazel]

can they survive without hp aux?
yes>it make sense
no>it doesn't make sense

[whole crypt]

depends on the ship but in general durability comes first

[gilded carbon]

Fair

Experiment it is

[silk helm]

who's the vanguard?

[forest palm]

Shim, Kronk, and UR Bulin

[forest palm]

pretty sure that's the April Fools outfit

[silk helm]

no way...

[ocean terrace]

don't the other 2 bulins have april fools skins too

[forest palm]

they do

[white agate]

so to recap the strongest vanguard crossfleet barrages are shimimikaze and kron? thought there were others on par with them

[ivory sigil]

@ocean terrace can i ask what's your SP team?

[ocean terrace]

uh I'll let you know in a bit, but I didn't really care about minmaxing oil for it so

[whole crypt]

look at slot reqs and think what xf exists

[ivory sigil]

I want to try Unicorn : Tohka only for SP
So instead of 500 oil it drop to 194 oil

[iron berry]

Advice for teams

[whole crypt]

Unicorn+Tohka is almost a guaranteed win, but gear and levels

[ivory sigil]

Wait Does 1:1 mean 1 ship mainfleet : 1 ship vanguardfleet
Or it is just normally mean 1 fleet solo instead of 2 fleets

[rigid onyx]

whats the best cv xfleet barrage

[ocean terrace]

1:1 is 1 main 1 vanguard yes

[rain bobcat]

sex/fritz

[drowsy quest]

Which ships are the ones recommended to retire just rare or which one elite or sr can i retire?

[valid forge]

is william d porter worth upgrading?

[rain bobcat]

maybe

[flat oak]

So I'm 350 pulls in and close for sparking UR. Should I get Yorktown or another UR (I got Lexington II but I only have enough ur bulins to max one UR)

[inland shoal]

Dupes (in excess of MLB) you can retire rare and upwards

[rain bobcat]

the answer should be very obvious and thats no

[rose sun]

Can i farm pr exp from opsi?

[onyx flame]

its very slow but yea you can

[tulip tinsel]

just farm it with event since it's here

[flat oak]

Do i need entire dragon empire team for tai Yuan to be good

[rapid shard]

No

[ivory sigil]

-For newbie is quite unlikely that she would make any change plus waste of UR bulin if we plan to get any stronger UR (Guam/Laffey)
-# -For midgame player is doable if you can make use of her with USS team against Light armor boss or just wait for better choice
-# -For endgame player / Metafollow player... perhaps she is gonna stay build minimal for future usage i just mention above

[whole crypt]

do you mean 350 cubes or 350 pulls because spark is 200 pulls

[hushed sorrel]

for endgame player its worth upgrading since its upgradeable. welcome in the collection

[valid forge]

btw whats so problematic with ur bullins?

[flat oak]

350 cubes

Or idk, it says 350/400 in ur exchange

[hushed sorrel]

you are limited by the amount per month you can get

[whole crypt]

UR exchange is perm URs
event spark is event spark
they're separate things

[tulip tinsel]

iirc york2 is quite low on perma ur prio

[flat oak]

Ye I was talking about Perma pool

[onyx flame]

you can only get 2.5 bulins a month assuming you play enough to earn 5k spec cores + buy the 3k spec cores from medal shops and cruise pass
this excludes ur events which give 1 ur bulin for free

[flat oak]

From that pool I don't have vanguard, Musashi, kron, Yorktown ii and shimakaze

[ocean terrace]

musashi is considered highest priority out of all the URs in pity

[tulip tinsel]

musashi highest prio

[flat oak]

I see, thanks

[ocean terrace]

though you want to mlb them by getting copies of the URs to save on bulins

[flat oak]

Do we know when we might get Essex and Eldridge retrofit items

[whole crypt]

just pull 1 light daily if you're done with event
ask again when you actually hit perm exchange chances are you should get Musashi if you're newer

[tulip tinsel]

essex next en anni, eld uh long

[flat oak]

Rip

[whole crypt]

chances are next EN anniv will rerun sex and add perm for Eldridge

[tulip tinsel]

eld item prob gonna be added in protocore

shop

[flat oak]

Yeah, I'm already done with event build, though should I try getting some more lexss to save up on bulins or just start saving for next ur event.

[whole crypt]

save your cubes for next UR

[tulip tinsel]

how many cubes you have + progress on lex2

[meager path]

do i need to build pensylvania? i kinda stuck in 3 2

[flat oak]

74 cubes, 1lb Lex

[tulip tinsel]

then save

[flat oak]

I have 5ish ur bulins, should I use them for lex or porter?

[tulip tinsel]

https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/progression-guide

[flat oak]

I have also shinano and Ulrich who aren't maxed out (4 star fox and 3 star Ulrich)

[warm latch]

dont use bulins on perma urs

[ivory sigil]

If lucky, u can get over 2+ per month, or else just 1 or 2 per month
And you need at least 4 UR to max limitbreak an UR to make her usable,

so that it can take up to 2 months long just to prepare
-# (assume u not lucky/f2p and only get 1 UR ship after used 400 cube in banner

So imagine u got 2 UR from banner of rerun Guam/Laffey2 which is both are strong UR for newbie.
If you want to use them immediate, at least 8 UR bulins need to be prepared.

Or else u might had to wait for 4 next months
-# this assume u dont have any other newer UR within 4 of those months

[flat oak]

Aight thx

[hushed sorrel]

i would say if you are new you indeed shouldnt us ur bilins on perma urs, but if you are not new and you got some knowlegde you know what you can do. its not like you get permament damage just because you used a few of them for a ship that you are actually using

[flat oak]

Is Guam/Laffey 2 next event or there's time to save

[ivory sigil]

Check cheeky name

His name is John cena @viscid swift

[tulip tinsel]

1/15/2026

[flat oak]

Nice I missed Laffey ii

[ivory sigil]

About whether u had time to save let just say... 1 months you would get about 168+ cube

[tulip tinsel]

you need at least 320 cube for guam, laffey2 is free

[ivory sigil]

More cube depend on how generous/ how lucky/ how willing of your 💳

[tulip tinsel]

you get like 40 free tickets that's why 320

[flat oak]

I'll probably skip Guam

[ocean terrace]

laffey II is free like willy D was, also you get 40 pulls for free for Guam iirc

[flat oak]

Oh nice, I'll probably have 300ish of cubes by then

[ocean terrace]

oh im repeating shit, mb

[flat oak]

Was z52 free too

I'm really having fomo reeeee. Missed many free URs, missed retrofit items

[ocean terrace]

oh don't worry, we've all been there

biggest miss of this year was probably Lion/Traf event

[flat oak]

I dropped game by like first vanguard banner then came back this year after anniversary end

[tulip tinsel]

im still waiting for alsace, z52

[flat oak]

Missed it by few days

[ocean terrace]

Alsace rerun should be around summer/autumn right?

[tulip tinsel]

prob early summer to late

[whole crypt]

expect it soon after next CN anniv Jun/Jul ish

[ocean terrace]

got it ty

love her design so that's something to look forward to

Soyuz too in march/april

[tulip tinsel]

i just want every ur bb lol

[hardy whale]

i just want alsace

[ocean terrace]

was she the BB with a preload?

[tulip tinsel]

ye

[ocean terrace]

only UR BB with a preload?

[tulip tinsel]

idk about that but prob

[hardy whale]

i dont think thats how many people remember her

not that either

[tulip tinsel]

she just stronk

and rainbow bb

[ocean terrace]

I think we have a gooner over here

[hardy whale]

[flat oak]

Btw is it worth famring gold plane blueprints in event

[knotty jolt]

Ik of Alsace as the shipgirl with a stupidly large model cause she rides a horse

[tulip tinsel]

hvar? yes if you have tons of oil

[hardy whale]

what a fire username

[flat oak]

Is 17k a lot

[undone plover]

u need around 45k oil per 25 prints (1 plane)

[flat oak]

[knotty jolt]

I've dumped like 35k+ and only got roughly one hvar worth of prints

[onyx flame]

ya

[knotty jolt]

Id say I'm abit lucky tho

[flat oak]

LexII, New Jersey, Enterprise
Anchorage, Porter, San Diego.

Is this good team. Heard that both lex and porter need full uss team

[ocean terrace]

good team for what exactly

[onyx flame]

[ocean terrace]

is this for campaign? opsi? bossing?

[flat oak]

Mostly for campaign and bossing

[ocean terrace]

campaign you want a mob fleet and a boss fleet

[flat oak]

Cuz I'm still dum in opsi

[ocean terrace]

I reckon someone can help you if you make a thread and post your dock
also provide some context as to where you are in the game

[hardy whale]

Is there like a Unicorn but better

[forest palm]

nope

[onyx flame]

~~ya uni retro ~~

[hardy whale]

Damn i was hoping for a stronger healer so i can make my team into that nanomachines son meme

[ocean terrace]

could use a secondary healer along with Uni

[tulip tinsel]

uh use 3 healers then

[flat oak]

Use kurumi

[hardy whale]

Tbf Uni already carrying

[knotty jolt]

Honestly idk if uni would ever be power crept

[hardy whale]

imagine UR healer

[ocean terrace]

Feb UR is a UR healer

[hardy whale]

well well well

[ocean terrace]

confirmed by me

[onyx flame]

it need to be more than just a healer tbh

[knotty jolt]

When she got that retro it was pretty crazy cause the best healer at the time was Perseus I'm pretty sure

[hardy whale]

[flat oak]

Will Feb have another double ur event?

[ocean terrace]

who knows

[hardy whale]

goodbye cubes!

[ocean terrace]

though we've had a Dec double UR + Guam and Laffey rerun in Jan so

[knotty jolt]

Ye these next few months are gonna be rough on cubes

[tulip tinsel]

when was even the last non double ur event that's not a rerun

[hardy whale]

please godsend us and drop everyone 100 cubes for new years!

[onyx flame]

raff

[ocean terrace]

I'm not complaining at all, what more could a new player want but shiny rainbow ships

[warm cliff]

should i give le terrible the 100mm main gun and then sandy the 150mm tbtsk?

[hardy whale]

enough bulins to mlb my ur

[knotty jolt]

You forgot the emphasis on "new player" idk if they could afford this

[ocean terrace]

DD gun > CL gun

[hardy whale]

😭

[warm cliff]

lmao sorry that was my friend's gc

[hardy whale]

but https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide

[ocean terrace]

can I afford it? you tell me vet

[knotty jolt]

If a light cruiser can equip a DD gun they want it, if a DD can equip a CL gun check skills if there's any point for doing so

[rain bobcat]

double events are not as chill as u think lol

[hardy whale]

oh mr goon guides is here

[ocean terrace]

am I not living through one atm

[rain bobcat]

this year we had 7 new URs alone that's a bullshit ton of limited spec cores

[ocean terrace]

yeah but I'd rather see 10 non mlb URs in my dock than none

[warm cliff]

ah so it's better not to give sandy the cl gun, alright

[ocean terrace]

I have options to work with

[knotty jolt]

Sandy especially wants a DD gun cause of her augment

Her augment causes extra barrages to fire every time her main gun is fired and such quantity of shots becomes prioritized vs quality

[tulip tinsel]

isn't her barrage bugged?

[ocean terrace]

also it's pretty fun asking and discussing which UR I should use and prioritise etc so I don't mind

[knotty jolt]

Since when

[warm cliff]

i haven't unlocked that one yet 😭 the golden blueprints are hard to get for me (i'm level 60)

[rain bobcat]

to put it into perspective a person who wasn't a vet before this year/ had 0 cores at the start would have gone through this entire year and still not have enough bulin to mlb all new URs

[ocean terrace]

but they would have Lion so fuck them

[tulip tinsel]

main fleet > vang

[rain bobcat]

since release lol

it hasn't and will probably will never be fixed

[knotty jolt]

I've never noticed

What's the bug even exactly

[rain bobcat]

well its not easy to see

basically when her fire rate reaches a certain point, the barrage fires so much it fucks up with the cd/animation and her barrage dishes out less bullets that it's supposed to

about 20% less dmg than intended or smth idk

well I say "intended" but these guys don't know wtf they're doing anyway

[knotty jolt]

I got the rainbow twin 100mm so idk if that is affecting me but damn rip

[rigid onyx]

twin 100mm is basically best in slot

[knotty jolt]

Very nice then

So this is a good setup

[rigid onyx]

in general DD guns on vanguards are better than CL guns anyways, unless there's a special skill like otto

[rain bobcat]

AA should be sexy but otherwise probably

I would also use bulge over the to love ru aux

[rigid onyx]

AA "should" be cat aa

[rain bobcat]

mostly because I only use sandy on 15

[knotty jolt]

She's working fine for me in w15 and I got no torp bulges on any of my ships

[rigid onyx]

torp bulges are mostly rng mitigation because occasionally your vanguard can just nuke

[knotty jolt]

I'm doing the strategy of praying to RNG

[rain bobcat]

bulge is just to prevent ai stupidity

[knotty jolt]

Hope I don't run into to many torps etc

[rain bobcat]

ur vanguard gets killed over by torps/ramming more than anything else

[knotty jolt]

I'm crazy and enjoy using napolia in my fleets for w15

[cobalt robin]

napoli is good in w15

[rain bobcat]

w14H but no gear lab manjuu

[ocean terrace]

when did all the event ships get added to endgame spreadsheet

[rain bobcat]

willy was long time ago

[ocean terrace]

I just opened it and saw the others

[rain bobcat]

i have 55k now ill prob hibernate til thursday for skins

[cobalt robin]

100k and not even 2nd hvar

[knotty jolt]

I'm at 56670, need to go back to grinding

[ocean terrace]

I forgot morale issues were a thing so I'm suffering

[knotty jolt]

Me sweating by switching ships out

[ocean terrace]

if only I had ships for that I would

[warm cliff]

do i still need to buy cleveland meta if i got her from sortieing d3 😭

[knotty jolt]

No just the crystals for limit breaking

[cobalt robin]

i havent bought her once and got her like 8 times already

[knotty jolt]

Even then hold off till event is near end incase you get more dupes

[warm cliff]

okay thanks

[cobalt robin]

me using 3 different fleets

[warm cliff]

what are these pts for, i don't see them

[analog tendon]

do i hate you now or should i wait a few minutes?

[shadow yarrow]

Heres the thing
I p much finished it except for gouden leeuw and i dont want her

[onyx flame]

the frame in call to arms page of the event

[cobalt robin]

i mean i shouldve gotten her at least a couple times since ive farmed to 100k points already

[knotty jolt]

Frame is entirely cosmetic and one of the few things i still play the game for

[knotty jolt]

get her anyways for tech

[vestal prawn]

can someone explain to me, how to unlock or open the Exchange Shop menu in OpSi??

[knotty jolt]

when you're on the map screen there should be a button on the bottom right

[analog tendon]

since you don't need all those copies anyway throw a few to me. Almost 40k and still zero copies here :V

[onyx flame]

clear chp 4 of the story in opsi, then after wait for the next reset

[cobalt robin]

i would if i could

[vestal prawn]

how to know which chapter am i right now??

[knotty jolt]

I see the red node that's story go do that

[onyx flame]

when your in a map area, bottom right there should be infomation, should tell you the missions which indicates the chp your in

[ivory pawn]

Map area = in the region/zone with your ship chibis, not the big overview map.

[onyx flame]

you still gonna want 3 meck gun anyway since they are bis for heavy and 2nd against med (cause only 1 raff gun) ¯_(ツ)_/¯

idk if anyone did the math on how much dmg you lose compared to the 2nd best against meck gun

[vestal prawn]

is this the right one ???

[cobalt robin]

champy is like 10-15% worse at same level and meck gun is also faster than flandre gun as well

[white agate]

my W16

[shadow yarrow]

So what do i do about getting more la9s

[soft raft]

Just keep doing PR7 researches
It'll likely be added to Protocore Shop as well (but only enough BPs for 1 copy)

[ivory sigil]

I thought April?

[white agate]

are they better than a +13 flandre/champy gun when at +10 tho?

[white agate]

finally unicorn replacement?

[soft raft]

There is no (new) gacha UR in April
They're Feb/May/Sept/Dec

Aslo Husky is just fucking with you, we have no idea what the next UR will be

[ivory sigil]

-# we will see what happen on April 1st, i bet

[white agate]

||we finished the bulin skins ||

[cobalt robin]

new lion class bb

[ivory sigil]

ayo you're right i got her in trophyroom

[ocean terrace]

I'm currently on 11k spec cores having bought all the spec cores in shop and hit the 5k mark a while ago, I currently have 1 UR bulin in dock,
should I get Sandy's retrofit item? I have enough retroprints and I have her UA, and I'll definitely get enough coins from grinding this event

or is saving spec cores smarter here for Guam/Laffey II and Feb

content-wise I've cleared W12

[undone plover]

If u are pushing ch15 get it
If not dont
U wont have enough for both guam and laffey unless u get mega lucky and pull like 4 guams

[onyx flame]

they technically have enuf

since by the end of jan would be another 3 ur bulins

[undone plover]

[ocean terrace]

I'd have 4 by the end of this month including spec cores, cruise pass and the one I have from event

[undone plover]

That is true actually

[ocean terrace]

11k is a weird number though, since I'd only get 8k per month right?

[jolly condor]

They would have enough

[ivory sigil]

i should push event to mark 55k and then stop and start w12 right?

[undone plover]

It has happened to me too as well iirc
Maybe your first month u didn’t get all the medal shop ones?

[ocean terrace]

probably the case, I had a week before month reset when I started

[undone plover]

Yes unless u need more tokens for the shop for some reason

[onyx flame]

prob didnt buy medal spec core

[ocean terrace]

I'm gonna get 1 HVAR at least, personally

[undone plover]

For me I use limited resources when I need to
Is sandy retro worth 2k spec core
Yes it is
Mainly when pushing ch15 since before then u really dont need her retrofit that much

[onyx flame]

but hey thats 3/4 of a ur bulin can be used for san diego and 1 ddg (dont lmao)

[undone plover]

So maybe wait till guam event is over and decide then what to do with bulins

I wouldnt try ch15 before guam anyway
Unless u want a personal challenge

[ocean terrace]

thing is, Sandy retro would let me easily clear W13

[ivory sigil]

even if that crossed all event pts ?

[onyx flame]

might also be half a consider to save the 2k spec cores for diego and wait for eldridge one instead

[ocean terrace]

I haven't tried W13 yet so I wouldn't know but I know Sandy is amazing for W13/W15

[onyx flame]

normal sandy is enough ngl

[ivory sigil]

-# just bought bro you would eventually get 10k coin within few days
-# +11k coin if u want to 10+ level of that weapon
unless u need to save up coin for big major project something

p/s Sorry i mistook Retro with Augment

[undone plover]

U probably dont need her for 13
13 hard maybe tho but again it will be easier with guam as well and perhaps even laffey

[jolly condor]

I just did the same thing you plan on doing I wasted most of my UR bulins on lex II

[white agate]

after how much dockspace do you hit the hard cap and starts paying double?

[onyx flame]

laffey2 would super help since shes also an AA bot

[undone plover]

2k iirc

[white agate]

well, i am plenty safe forever then

[ocean terrace]

I see I see ty

but when would I ever get to spend the 3k from 11k though?
if I only get 8k a month

[undone plover]

The double thing is just there to punish mega whales
So as a f2p/dolphin u should be fine

[jolly condor]

just wait til next month

[ocean terrace]

not like I'd randomly get 1k to be able to finish another UR bulin no?

[undone plover]

For the ddg retrofits
They take 1k each

[onyx flame]

wait for eldrige when she gets added to spec core shop next anni

[undone plover]

It technically could happen tbh
But so far hasnt iirc

[ocean terrace]

DDG retrofits could have higher prio than Sandy retro?

[onyx flame]

ehhh imo no

[undone plover]

No I just mean if ever u are left with 1k and no way to reach 4k then might as well use it for 1 ddg

[ivory sigil]

u want chinese ship? bruh it is not even Chinese new year yet, wait until then, they should be around Feb too ngl

[white agate]

only thing having prio in the game is getting good main fleet ships, and some AA ships when pushing in AA heavy environment

[ocean terrace]

no but my point is I'll only gain intervals of 8k every month, no less no more, so the 3k is better spent on Sandy's item surely

[peak fable]

btw what are the prototype and specialized gear upgrade for?

[undone plover]

Oh I see
actually yeah I didnt think about it like this
Makes sense to get the item then tbh

[knotty jolt]

considering a max limit break is 4 bulins that's 16k core

I'd personally just hold onto it

[ocean terrace]

otherwise my spec core count sits on an odd number forever

[undone plover]

That 3k surplus will stay 3k anyway
Not like u can realistically push it to 4k
So sandy item is basically 0 downside

[ocean terrace]

yeah that's how I see it

[onyx flame]

i would hold it till you really need sandy retro cause you could just gete eldridge one when it rolls around

[ocean terrace]

when's the estimation for that

[undone plover]

Used to be we got 5k so I have never had this situation happen to me

[onyx flame]

prob by en anni

[ocean terrace]

so 2026 august?

[undone plover]

Probably yeah

[ocean terrace]

I'd rather have sandy retro rn

[ivory sigil]

so it's just gonna be another wait and wait, i guess let just slap 3k for that microphone and give her a big karaoke

[undone plover]

But by then your bulin situation will be decent unless u mismanage it and u can get eldridge at the cost of 0.5 bulin

[ocean terrace]

got it thank youuu

[onyx flame]

iirc used to +13 gear

[peak fable]

oh so the gold one is for gold gear and the rainbow one for rainbow gear... do you only need one per gear or 3?

[ivory sigil]

You had way more +UR Bulin than mine and u still skeptical about it

[knotty jolt]

takes several to +13

[ocean terrace]

yeah cos what will Guam and Laffey II do sitting in my dock at 0lb/1lb

[undone plover]

Gold is for gold gear and for +11 +12 UR gear
Iirc only +13 UR gear needs the rainbow

[knotty jolt]

iirc it's 5 rainbow parts + the other plates to go from 12 to 13

[undone plover]

It is good to be cautious with limited resources

[ivory sigil]

meanwhile me what i'm skeptical is whether to press Confirm or not...

guys what is Can equip any aircraft in torpedo bomber?

[undone plover]

Waiting 1 month for UR when she is sitting in your dock is

[peak fable]

which one of the two are higher prio for a mid game player?

[inland shoal]

Well you don't need those gold plates for UR gears at all

[undone plover]

Her TB slot is flexible

[knotty jolt]

do it, that dupe will serve no other purpose

[ivory sigil]

nice
so what would i use that slot for?

[undone plover]

Yeah we were talking about the gear cog thing tho I thought

[peak fable]

yeah that's what I meant

[inland shoal]

I'm just saying you made it sound like you still need that for UR +11 and +12

[undone plover]

Oh I see my mistake nvm sry

I always thought they get used

[peak fable]

so uh, which one of the two are more important to get? not sure if I can afford to fully buy out siren shop

[inland shoal]

-# Btw you also need the gold cog plate for purple gear +11

[onyx flame]

well tbf when you +13 you go all the way anyway

[knotty jolt]

don't mind me sitting here with lots of +11 and +12 gear cause my autism

[undone plover]

Purple gear +11

[onyx flame]

you should be able to buy out the whole shop by the end of the month ngl so it doesnt super matter i think

[inland shoal]

Rainbow imo cuz you get so many of the gold ones, but I'm more strapped for normal gold plates than either of those tbh

[peak fable]

that's the answer I wanted, thanks c:

[undone plover]

We are also getting UR gear power-creep so technically a min/maxer uses the gold cogs even less

[inland shoal]

Or does he use them more cuz he knows 3 +13 golds are better than 1 +13 rainbow

[onyx flame]

not if i keep leveling new gold gear cause im lazy to swap

[undone plover]

Depends on the min/max mentality

[onyx flame]

actually, when even is a good time to go and get a ddg

[ocean terrace]

you'd want all 3 no?

or are they good invidivually

[kindred arrow]

You'd never use all 3, only get 1 if you do

[tulip tinsel]

well akshually there is 4

[undone plover]

They are essentially all mainly used for anti light content
But with better vanguards releasing these days u dont really need any of em

I mainly use em for low costing events first clear these days

And 1 is usually enough
U almost never run 2 in a meta fleet

[hexed cosmos]

Hi, uhm, why is there no 10-2?
I am Level 76 if that is the matter/problem

[tulip tinsel]

you didn't clear 10-1 yet

[ivory sigil]

68% -> 100%

[undone plover]

Which one to get depends what u want
I think it is between tai yuan vs fu shun now for highest light dmg

[ivory sigil]

TAI YUAN PLS

BIG SNAKE

[kindred arrow]

when you get them while they're new

[hexed cosmos]

I have to get all 3 stars to progress?
Because under 10 that was not an issue, so thats why I am confused

[tulip tinsel]

no clear boss 1 more time

[onyx flame]

you dont have to 3 star, you need to 100% which is different rn your on 68%

[undone plover]

3 clears = 100% and next map unlocks
Some maps needs more than 3 clears

[ocean terrace]

it'll continue to be a trend from W10 and onwards

[tulip tinsel]

13-4 needs 5 clear 🥀

[hexed cosmos]

Ooohhh
Thank you guys

[ivory sigil]

@ocean terrace choose 1
🐍 or 🐦‍🔥 ?

[onyx flame]

12-4 also need 5 🥀

[ocean terrace]

I heard Tai Yuan is good so whichever that one is

[onyx flame]

im ngl i rmb an shan being the choice but also because of that ddg chart image i rmb seeing

[undone plover]

I would ask cheeky/sushi which one is the best tbh these days
Also u might as well wait for LNY
I doubt we will get another DDG since all 4 are essentially done now
Maybe they will rerun 1 item?

[ocean terrace]

I swear cheeky said Tai Yuan

[undone plover]

An shan is still the best one to run solo I think

[ocean terrace]

that's the only reason I remember her lol, lemme find the msg

[ivory sigil]

Even the guide said Tai Yuan if lack of DD

but that's before Willy D arrive

[undone plover]

Yeah but the context matters
TY maybe is the best overall
But fu shun does more in bossing vs light iirc

[ocean terrace]

I like to read past advice and remember odd things that weren't directed at me

[undone plover]

I would love to hear more of the TY vs FS debate as well tbh

How does sushi rate em in his list

[ocean terrace]

lemme see

[onyx flame]

inb4 new ones for this cny

[kindred arrow]

I think they're all on the same tier in regal

[ivory sigil]

iirc they are mostly not that high

[ivory sigil]

but what about those chinese dress in /aadps

[ocean terrace]

exact same lmao

[trim depot]

which stage do I need to clear to unlock sp event stage

[undone plover]

What about fu shun?

[undone plover]

/hardmode clear D3

[odd root]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/460648604974055424/1322138175426269215/image0.png

[kindred arrow]

The differences are 🤏, probably not different enough to warrant different tiers

[undone plover]

5 5 3 4

[ocean terrace]

so Fu Shun is a pure DPS vanguard like Hinden?

[kindred arrow]

Yes but only in light

[ocean terrace]

her med is 5...

[undone plover]

I believe so yeah
Calling her a mini hinden is probably not wholly wrong

[hollow gust]

And single target

[trim depot]

how do I unlock that even

[undone plover]

Check the picture

[tulip tinsel]

b3-> d3

[ocean terrace]

I love most of the pure DPS vanguards' designs so unfortunate that they're niche

[undone plover]

I think they are still better in anti light cause of the missile armor modifiers

[undone plover]

True end game is ignoring meta and creating your own fleets

[ocean terrace]

yeah give me another 2-3 years

[trim depot]

lv 105 seems so far

[undone plover]

Event is 3 weeks
17 days left
Take your time

[kindred arrow]

True, but the DDGs hold a very nice niche in low cost clearing events
I use my Fu Shun more than Laffii nowadays

[ocean terrace]

does it make that much of a difference in oil to URs?

why not throw an Unzen or Shima in there

[whole crypt]

between DDG and a rainbow DD it's like 2 oil/fight

[hollow gust]

The first 100 levels is like the first 3 months

[undone plover]

It adds up
If u are going to low cost use the best/cheapest

[knotty jolt]

DDGs are 9oil laffey 2 is 12

[ocean terrace]

so it's minmaxing minmax

[whole crypt]

ok 3 oil then

[undone plover]

Welcome to hardcore azure lane

[onyx flame]

me using og laffey for 9 cost

[kindred arrow]

It's nice when you haven't got to the oilcapped map in events

[knotty jolt]

You should see some people

They're using Ships like cassin and downes with 0 LB

[undone plover]

Some ppl were using ddg + bogue in D3 of PSI event on rerun

[ocean terrace]

is it bad that I have 1 Ranger and Cassin locked and levelling slowly through commissions

[kindred arrow]

I'm some people

[knotty jolt]

Thats 1 oil for each of those ships and then a 0LB ranger for another 2 for 4 oil ttotal per battle

[whole crypt]

assuming we're only talking about initial clear you save a grand total of 21 oil for your D3 clear
it'll add up if you're low costing the event... in which case you can save even more oil using bulin

[ocean terrace]

I saw people recommending them for 1:1 fleets so

[undone plover]

If u embrace the low cost mentality later on and dont burn out easily then why not have em just in case
Doesnt hurt

[trim depot]

I’m a solid 3 days in

[undone plover]

But u want 1 ranger at 120 eventually for the avi tech

[knotty jolt]

lv70 cassin/downes + ranger is just like the hardest of sweat grinding

[ocean terrace]

I just see cheeky using them with rainbow gear and thought I should prepare for it at some point lmao

[kindred arrow]

lowcosting B1 with ranger/mahans is sweat territory, don't bother until you have xfleets etc

[undone plover]

Hardest sweat is keeping the ranger under 35 for 1 more oil

[ivory sigil]

come on'
"play your game dont let game play you"

just build them like how u had oath prinz eugen/ bought her live2d skin etc

[whole crypt]

if you don't know what you're doing just don't bother with low cost memes

[undone plover]

Iirc I started low costing 8-10 months into the game
I got lucky and got 2 great x fleet for it tho alsace and soyuz

[knotty jolt]

cheeky is special

[whole crypt]

for most part we don't really recommend low cost grinding for newer players

[ocean terrace]

aren't we all

[knotty jolt]

He's our special but special nonetheless

[ocean terrace]

yeah I know it's a long way away but can't hurt to have a ranger and cassin in the dock

[white agate]

its pretty easy to set up tbh

[whole crypt]

it's more of a case of resource prioritization, if raising those first slows your progression

[ocean terrace]

oh no I send them on commissions that's all lol

[knotty jolt]

Dumb question: Are there any mainfleet ships that have a +1 AA mount?

[undone plover]

They are also less xp efficient I think
Well they used to be at least before farming 3x easy maps became easier

[ocean terrace]

I think I'm actually gonna hold off on Prinz's L2D skin, gotta save my gems for UR ship skins heh

[undone plover]

But lowcosting is more oil efficient for coins and chips

[whole crypt]

repair ships do
but we don't use them

[knotty jolt]

Well, besides them obviously

[whole crypt]

you can save enough oil through low costing to make it more efficient than just running a full fleet but you're also wasting grind time
that is also before you consider prioritizing resources for the low cost members over better ships
it's not so straightforward for earlier players compared to mid/mid-late players

[ocean terrace]

not sure what to do with some DAL dupes I have, I have a spare Kotori and loads of Yoshinos (don't use her)

[whole crypt]

medals if you don't need to LB

[undone plover]

Yeah I agree
I just wanted to specify what u are losing vs gaining
Essentially u are losing time (which is a non factor to some ppl)
And losing xp (which only really matters for newbies)

[knotty jolt]

I'm using them as trophies

[ocean terrace]

lmao do I have the dock space for that

[knotty jolt]

Gonna max out all my dupes

[whole crypt]

you can do what you want but that's seriously not recommended

we're still GPH here

[ocean terrace]

also I feel like my SR bulins are just growing and growing absurdly, without being used

[white agate]

the only dupe i ever kept was my nano since it was the first ever UR event and i had gotten like 4 nanos

[undone plover]

Enjoy it while it lasts

[white agate]

the rest i used to limit break

[whole crypt]

LB more SRs

[ocean terrace]

oh right tech I assume

[ocean terrace]

way too expensive atm

[whole crypt]

yeh coin tends to be the bigger gate where you're at

[wary lake]

How to unlock SP stage? I've cleared B3 event stage

[ocean terrace]

I don't think I'm at the point where I should focus on fleet tech at all

[tulip tinsel]

i have 0 and need like 200

[white agate]

D3

[undone plover]

If u want to be bulin efficient limit break SR that give good tech
Prio backliners
Prio backliners not in perma
And prio those giving +2 instead of +1 tech

Ofc assuming u LB actual useful ships first for example for opsi

[white agate]

isn't there also a "prio rld tech before anything else"?

[ocean terrace]

I just feel like SR ships won't ever improve my mob/boss fleets ever

[wary lake]

Wait how to access D3 then?

[undone plover]

Yeah ofc I just assumed they know what is good tech
Rld > acc > fp/avi

[onyx flame]

/hardmode

[odd root]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/460648604974055424/1322138175426269215/image0.png

[white agate]

above

[whole crypt]

prioritize good ships
then prioritize RLD until you have enough to make necessary comps
then it's HIT and damage stats

[cursive pulsar]

Kinda new player. Is there any use saving these dupes or should I limit break her?

[wary lake]

Ohh so it's there now, aight thanks

[whole crypt]

LB

[knotty jolt]

use them to limit break

[hollow gust]

Always limitbreak

[cursive pulsar]

Appreciate it.

[undone plover]

They will for a while until u get the z52 and trafalgers
Also ch15 meta mob fleet uses 2 SR healers
Well maybe lexy gets rid of 1

[white agate]

if you ever get 3 different skins for her and want her as a secretary with all 3 outfits, else no

[ocean terrace]

what SR ship improves my fleet then

other than a couple limited SR BBs

[tulip tinsel]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Fleet_Technology#tabber-BC/BB/BBV_2

[undone plover]

Show dock
But early good SR ships are like Kazagumo sirius san diego
Mainly support ships
For mob stuff like volga aquila

[hollow gust]

Independence , Aquila , shimanto , DeZven etc etc etc

[ocean terrace]

I have indep retro and mlb Cow

[hollow gust]

Partial loads are all on SR ships

[ocean terrace]

PR ships are different ofc

uhhh lemme link my thread

[undone plover]

But yeah is why I think starting on tech can be done sooner
With 2-3 shiny fleets u wont rly get much amazing upgrades until newer ships

[white agate]

do we count aquila and zihou, but not unicorn due to retrofit or she just is not that good in w15?

[undone plover]

Well I assume he meant targets for his gold bulins that is why
Uni is the best campaign ship bar none
Everyone else is expendable
She is not

[ocean terrace]

https://discord.com/channels/456397991847395339/1441564631268331721

[ivory sigil]

you have fall in love with lexi2 ?

[ocean terrace]

actually, might only grab Meck's skin from this event
Lex's base skin is pretty so plus her skin is way too lewd for my liking

[undone plover]

What was the best non-i404 sub fleet atm?

[hollow gust]

Flasher Albacore Archerfish

[steep peak]

Hellooo, I just came back from a hiatus and want to play and grind this game again. I still have every UR from the previous patch (I think), but I didn’t play much back then, so I genuinely don’t know which ship I should start working on now. And i only have 34k spec core.

[tulip tinsel]

mlb lion

[hollow gust]

Lion BisZwei

[peak fable]

if this is a serious question, max lion, maybe Bismarck Zwei, maybe the USS main fleet

[hollow gust]

Lexington and Yorky can wait

[steep peak]

Aight then, thank you

[worn spruce]

BC Messena. What event is she from?

[onyx flame]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Secrets_of_the_Abyss

[woven depot]

Hewwo quick quiestion, whats the best carrier order in lex2/essex/yk2 for speed tuning

[onyx flame]

wiki page still not finished

[onyx flame]

york2 before lex2 i think cause lexi 2 want enemies to be aa debuffed idk afterwards

[inland shoal]

It's just no one adding the map data
Especially me cuz I'm lazy

[worn spruce]

And essex class following york2 should have reload times at 8% or just over 8% greater than yorkie. I think breug for york2 and wyvern for her friends does this pretty well

[hollow gust]

[onyx flame]

that fleet comp is mainly for fighting light so you wouldnt be using torps

[hollow gust]

if you are syncing for single target light you wont be using torps... much less parallel ones

[shadow yarrow]

About meck gun vs la9, which one in the grand scheme of things is more valuable for their purposes? (I'm beginning to believe in the soyuz/nak/fritz combo)

[hollow gust]

meck gun cause BBs are a cheaper and currently stronger investment

[woven depot]

What gear should u be using for this fleet then

[onyx flame]

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide/

dont forget to read disclaimer

[ivory sigil]

uh oh... I reach lv80 and testing CM and look like they are not for to be brainless auto

what was her armor again?

[knotty jolt]

challenge modes have gimmicks to them

warspite for this one example you actually need to do abit of manualling

[ivory sigil]

errr like avoid using BB/CV skill when she had 2nd shield?

[hollow gust]

[knotty jolt]

Well my timings aren't the best so maybe it just a me thing

TLDR shoot her hard when she charges up

[stark quiver]

Or just ignore cm

[ivory sigil]

I was at 3% and then my electricity got cut off

whyyyyyyyy

[woven depot]

I mean i tried to but essex is so fast she goest after yk2 and before lex2 even with the loading strike increase gear

[hollow gust]

thats just easy mode, doesnt even give anything

[onyx flame]

well thats just essex in a nutshell, doesnt help that yk2 also speeds her up even more

[woven depot]

Do i lose on anything if my order goes yk>sex>lex if they go right after another

[onyx flame]

essex might miss her torp but idk

[woven depot]

Okay thanks for help

[safe nexus]

is william good?

to summarize what she do is that she heals herself, buff AA?

and she shoot torpedo from her skill and she a barrage?

[hollow gust]

Her gimmick is buffing Eagle by a lot

[tulip tinsel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7L-0rDViII

[safe nexus]

peak thx

[woven star]

Lexington2 might be after york2. As she take role implacable with slow

[small quarry]

What exactly do you buy at that OP store... it seems like a confusing and very long process this new mode.

[hollow gust]

Everything

[ivory pawn]

Once you have your first opsi reset, the shop becomes much simpler.

[ocean terrace]

maybe not tuning samples

[small quarry]

If you have to buy everything, a lot of your time will have to be spent here then... oh shit.

[ivory pawn]

You don’t have to buy everything, but currently the inventory comes out of a pool so the more you buy, the more likely you see the stuff you want.

Highest prio in that image would be the t3 ord and the gold plates.

[ocean terrace]

someone's been busy

[ivory pawn]

on your initial clear will function very differently on your initial clear

[ocean terrace]

I see a couple other grammatical errors there too, though I'm sure it'll be polished up

[small quarry]

I just started OP. It took a while, but I reached level 60...

I'd like a brief explanation, so as not to bother others, of what my goal is in this content.

[ivory pawn]

TLDR: clear every shiny on the map, to get mats to craft gear in the Gear Lab.

At the start you likely lack the strength, and also access to most of the map, so just focus on trying to clear the Opsi Story, which you can track via the Information tab.

[white agate]

is there a way to scrap an augment or the only way is to feed them to other augments?

[ivory pawn]

The latter, unfortunately.

[eternal basalt]

Augments are like cats

[white agate]

tbh, i have more issues with my cattery space than my augment space

[small quarry]

The explanation for that second image is pretty crazy lol 😭

[ocean terrace]

C = corruption level, you'll see it on the map for each node
ranges from C1 to C6 with C1 being easiest

[ivory pawn]

That’s the long version of my earlier tldr.

[ocean terrace]

yes clear shiny stuff, but story first

should be able to do that before monthly reset

[tulip tinsel]

the shinier the better

[slender turtle]

What ur should I mlb next? I dont have kear dev 30, so thats why i have mlb’d yk2 or lex 2

[small quarry]

Is it just me, or is the experience higher in OP than in the normal map?

[eternal basalt]

lex2 < yk2... you can get her free

[eternal basalt]

Au contraire, but great oil to xp

[slender turtle]

Wym for free

[onyx flame]

yk2 is in perma

[slender turtle]

O right

[woven star]

Oh boi

[fierce terrace]

Hi. .there is a guide for retiring or keeping ships?
I'm quite new.
Thanks in advance👍

[quick ledge]

hi quick question
is there a like a guide or list that makes it easier to accurately equip ships with the equipment they had irl?
since I have too many resources for the low tier equipments I want to more equip the ships I don't use accurately to irl

[hollow gust]

The advice is always keep a copy of the ship

[knotty jolt]

Historical accuracy might be hard but most gear we got we tend to call by the name of the ships they belong to granted most are end tier weapons. As for a guide for that your best bet is just Google stuff.

[onyx flame]

wiki to find the original name then aldb to find the ingame version if it exist

[quick ledge]

Noted

[cursive pulsar]

Is there a guide somewhere out there I can go to learn how to properly team build?

[clear harbor]

https://azurlaneecgc.com/fleetbuilding/

[fierce terrace]

With the dock full of ships?

[clear harbor]

This gets me like 50% of the way. The other 50% is asking here for a decent amount of tuning.

[hollow gust]

All ships provide very important fleet tech later on, you don't want to retire characters that might be hard to get back. That's why buying dock is so important with your f2p gems

[iron berry]

#gameplay-help message

Somebody? :3

[clear harbor]

Would a +13 Champy gun outperform a +10 Meck gun? Or would the Meck gun still do better?

[rapid shard]

I believe someone did the math the other day and the meck is just slightly above a +13 champ when at +10

[slender turtle]

What were the ships for the ssr selector that is supposed to come out on Christmas?

[hollow gust]

Thursday

[slender turtle]

I know when its coming, was asking what ships

Cause i know they showed them on the livestream, just don’t know all the names

[ivory pawn]

#jp-year-end-livestream-discussion message

Graf, Belfast, South Dakota, idk, idk, Bismarck, Richelieu.

[hollow gust]

Graf, Belfast , SouthDakota,Kuby, impero , Bismarck shit, Richie

[atomic abyss]

wait sodak is actually available outside merit shop?

[white agate]

yes, kind of funni

[atomic abyss]

good gods
what'll happen next? yamato?

[rapid shard]

Na USS Texas yes im coping

[atomic abyss]

well in all seriousness

[eternal basalt]

We already got a NJ/Shinano ticket

[atomic abyss]

at least impero and richy are decent picks

both for a new player and a not-so-new player doing research

[true lichen]

Do you keep all retrofittable ships or just the ones you like

[onyx flame]

If its retro alr why would you toss it. It alr ate resources

[knotty jolt]

for collection all for meta reasons some not just the ones you like but some are very niche and specific

[slender turtle]

Sad, wish they would put chapayev in one of these

[hollow gust]

Pretty sure they do

[knotty jolt]

i coulda swore chapy was an invitation one time

[true lichen]

Im keeping the ones i already completed but im running out of apace so i tossed all the commons and probably rares too soon (the boring ones)

[white agate]

can always farm war archive

[slender turtle]

I dont think shes been in one since ive played, but maybe ik wrong

[hollow gust]

Ya

[knotty jolt]

There she is

[slender turtle]

Oh ye i started playing on amagi event

[ivory pawn]

She was on last summer’s invitation too.

[slender turtle]

She was? Tragedy, not sure what my dumbass picked instead

[hollow gust]

I got 3 passes with Chapy on them

[onyx flame]

just get her from light ez

[white agate]

i just got her from pulling

[slender turtle]

Send one to me ty🙂

[slender turtle]

Ye tragic, I’ll just have to hope i get lucky or do wa, but that can’t be worth it atm lol

[onyx flame]

You get her from light someday or wishing well it

[slender turtle]

True, will get her and volga from that eventually

[white agate]

wait... x2 boost is useless
it dropped me 1 single hvar
thought it rolled and then doubled for equipement

[upbeat wagon]

the same happened to me and i thought it was a bug

[white agate]

it rolls like for ships, so singles

[sweet delta]

Of course it doesn't double the roll results

But how is it useless

[white agate]

can't deceive statisthic

[upbeat wagon]

does it double the chance then?

[white agate]

you pull 6 single items instead of pulling 3 single ones

so the only thing it does is killing your morale faster

[slender turtle]

Should i wait till i dev 30 kear before i mlb lex 2 and yk2? Just have 6 bulins and bot sure what to do with them, all the ships i have left that are not mlb feel so niche

[viscid swift]

As we say, it's just a time saver

It's why I use them when low cost farming

[hollow gust]

Wait what the fuck,3 weapon is possible ??

[white agate]

just good to kill the morale before going to sleep

[sweet delta]

They work with Lion too, kear is not required

[white agate]

idk, mine was just an example

[hollow gust]

Nah not talking about yours

[sweet delta]

3 is rookie number

[slender turtle]

Hmmm okay gotcha, is it even worth it if i have biz zwei and meck for light armor?

[hollow gust]

Btw if we were to run Essex Yorky Lexy, anyone faster then Yorktown will get desynced right? Cause of Yorky rld reduc

[sweet delta]

There is currently no difficult light boss in the game, so it's hard to judge. The next relevant light boss could favor either fleet

[clear harbor]

When taking on a stronghold and the Siren appears to take over a friendly area, what's the best way to deal with this, other than rushing right to it? Last time I left to heal and I spawned right next to it when I returned. Does that always happen? Or was that coincidence?

[white agate]

idk, i do auto

[ivory pawn]

Deal with it whenever, it doesn’t matter.

[onyx flame]

Just kill it before you leave the stronghold for good

[ivory pawn]

You get the same reward regardless of whether it finishes taking over or not.

[clear harbor]

Yeah, I think I'm overthinking it. If they capture the area, it spanws extra enemies, but it's not like I'm short on healing items.

[slender turtle]

Hmm gotcha, guess there isnt really a rush, i just get impatient when i have bulins and like 4 urs to choose from lol dont wanna make a mistake

[white agate]

do like me: 20 UR bulins and 7UR to mlb

[viscid swift]

I've seen up to 6

[white agate]

the most i have ever seen was 2 i think

[rapid shard]

Ive been stuck at 45/50 for a week now. Spamming riggings nonstop and cant seem to get a single one

[stark quiver]

i get the bulk of mine from coin researches

[deep cypress]

Do you guys usually kill every enemy in OpSi strongholds or go straight for the bosses?

[hollow gust]

Just auto it

[ivory pawn]

I press auto, which ends up killing every enemy in opsi strongholds.
If I wasn't autoing, I'd just do cat nodes and go straight to the bosses.

[stark quiver]

i press auto
home back and see im stuck in fog

[spice phoenix]

should i even bother to get +1 EVA stat for bc in fleet tech? (120 that is)

[viscid swift]

there hasn't been any UR BCs so far

[sweet delta]

There hasn't been any difficult boss who shells the main fleet so far. Maybe just chapter 15 mob.

[stray crane]

this one worth it? gotta use cubes

[shell willow]

with 434? no, unless shes your #1 waifu

[stray crane]

okay

[viscid swift]

eh, the occasional 0.5 h face research won't do that much harm

[rain bobcat]

idk why ppl are afraid to use cubes on 0.5 unless they're below 200 or smth

ur not gonna get it every week. only at most every month

[viscid swift]

exactly

[cobalt robin]

last time i got it was 2 months ago

[shell willow]

my thought process was that the chance of those 5 cubes mattering for an UR pity is very slim, but if they are doing pr8 they should have enough tanks already and having one extra a day earlier wont do much

[viscid swift]

Gouden is not a tank

at least, no more than Drake is

and PR8 is literally the first season we reccomend to set research focus to for new players

[sweet delta]

I think Gouden can tank w15 mob fine with her eHP whatever it is

[shell willow]

mb on that one

[naive summit]

I’m dumb, what does this mean? 🙄

[rain bobcat]

dock full

[wheat ore]

i got lexington 2 after 170 pulls, is it worth it to keep pulling to 200 so i get another copy?

[white agate]

if you have plenty of cubes

[wheat ore]

i got like 650 i think

[hollow gust]

You are pretty close to end anyway

[sweet delta]

If you need UR bulins. Just do 3 builds per day for free event points

[hollow gust]

Just do the 3 daily and finish at the end

[wheat ore]

okay good idea, ty

[silver river]

Is there any vanguard ship that could stop the boss for a while with some skill?

[rain bobcat]

technically yes, realistically no

[silver river]

I want to try Harukyu, Amagi 2, and Shinano in the main, but I need someone who can stop the boss.

[silver river]

Why?(

[rain bobcat]

kurumi has the ability to stop the boss, but she needs to hit 3 targets at once for it to happen

just use eldridge, live with the slow and pray to rng

though if you have low CV reload tech, even eldrdige isn't gonna do shit

[silver river]

What combination of carriers will be the most effective in terms of damage if you install Implicable?

[rain bobcat]

amagi shinano/amagi hakuHOU

[silver river]

and hopes for Eldridge?

They won't get there without stopping the boss.

[silver river]

or did you mean something else?😅

[rapid shard]

Pretty sure he meant either of those 2 combo'd with Implac

[silver river]

Thanks)

[deep cypress]

You gotta sync Implacable's freeze with Amagi and Hakuhou.

[rapid shard]

Eldridge slow is unreliable as hell (I currently cope with it)

[deep cypress]

Yeah, it's pretty... unreliable.

[rain bobcat]

did you know formi does more than implacable on heavy

[deep cypress]

Yeah, but if you need a freeze, you need Implacable.

[rapid shard]

I seen that but heard it was unreliable

[rain bobcat]

[rapid shard]

Consistent*

[rain bobcat]

80%, close enough

[true zenith]

is there a reason to keep the chibi/chan shipgirls?

[sweet delta]

Child murder is illegal in most jurisdictions

[true zenith]

theyre getting an early retirement at the age of 6

a life full of work and productivity

thanks

[sweet delta]

Akagi chan may be useful sometimes, rarely

[deep cypress]

And they are CUTE man

Do you get fewer rewards if you kill the boss with less than one minute left and get an A instead of an S?

[true zenith]

is emulator talk allowed here?

[white agate]

y

[forest palm]

We don't care if you use emulators to play the game, so, yes

[true zenith]

my emulator runs at negative 20 fps, are there significant gameplay changes when that happens?

i have another device that i normally play on (that doesnt have fps problems) but i prefer mnk when im doing dock management

[sweet delta]

Not for dock management, but there may be in-battle effects such as worse Anti Air possibly

[white agate]

idk, only thing i know is that my game runs fine and then in the midst of a sortie everything slows , loading screens too; if i just standby my phone for 1 second and reopen the screen game goes back to work as it should; idk why that happens

[sharp socket]

does consistent 10 fps in 15-4 result in worse AA

[silver river]

Can the Ägir skill with torpedo slowdown be effective against aircraft carriers?

[weary gust]

You shouldn't consider Agir's slow as being relevant to anything. It's too little of a slow and too unreliable and usually not timed correctly.

[rapid shard]

Its even worse than trying to rely on Eldridge slow

[silver river]

Oh 🥲
Than Implicable

[rapid shard]

If you need a slow just use Implac or AvP if you dont have implac

[silver river]

Thanks 🙏

[naive summit]

I have 30 dock spaces clear though?

[silver river]

Could you please also tell me how to get rid of an unnecessary augment?

[atomic abyss]

You use it as fodder for other augments

[tacit mortar]

guys how did you deal with yorktown META?

[viscid swift]

check the pins, I used something similar to the 2nd to last fleet listed

[brisk dragon]

remind me. if UR pity isn't used. it goes to waste ?

[forest palm]

event UR pity does in fact go poof

[brisk dragon]

aight. i got her pretty early but the cowgirl refused to come till i spent 444 cubes
guess that saves me a UR bulin

[rain bobcat]

6h maint tom or what

err I mean the day after tom

[verbal plinth]

yeah skin set 2 and hm

[peak fable]

I'm having a bit of trouble choosing between cheaper alternatives to Plymouth gun for my CLs that cant use DD guns, the gold guns are all pretty expensive to build in gear lab and I was wondering how much stronger they really are compared to the purple CL gun, been kinda considering just using the purple one instead.

[rapid shard]

Check your crafting tab under depot. you may be able to make a few donski guns

[rain bobcat]

show what cl guns you have rq?

[atomic abyss]

If you lack resources for gear lab guns
If you lack resources from research or farming

Just stick to the purple twin 150mm tbtsk

[atomic abyss]

If you have the resources then yes this is an option

Otherwise crafting the triple 155 Kai in gear lab

They are still behind the plygun ofc

And the 2 gold guns are ofc ahead of the tbtsk

It boils down to, do you have the good alternatives

[mossy junco]

is there really no pity for cowpen?

[rapid shard]

No pity for SRs

[mossy junco]

damn, rip me

im sitting on mlb lexi, but still no cowpen

[peak fable]

I have another question, Suchi rated the Ning Hai Ping Hai Yat Sen combo at "max self survival", is that assessment true? They do feel pretty tanky especially Yat Sen, but I don't have a reference frame for a truly tanky VG ship, as my tankiest option is probably my Roon or Eldrige depending on how you see it

[next escarp]

Need help on Helena aux gear, should I give her more EVA and HP?

[peak fable]

if she dies without doing her job, then yes, VG survival is paramount

[next escarp]

Thanks friend

[peak fable]

make sure she is in the middle of your vanguard btw, Helena should be the squishiest ship in your bossing fleet

[next escarp]

She is, but I don't have good gears for her at the moment. This is all I have as of now

Also need help with Portland's gear, is this good enough? Do I need to give her more HP?

[soft raft]

You can give this a read https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide/

[rapid shard]

portland looks okay minus the secondary guns. quick guide above

[next escarp]

Thanks friends

[rapid shard]

Also unless your running gold fire control towers on your BBs the SG radar on helena is not really good. it speeds her up too much and desyncs from your BBs

[atomic abyss]

PSA

There was a recent sorta large-scale revamp to the commands

[sweet delta]

I would have preferred
PSA
||Datamine is allowed again||

[atomic abyss]

For that, you can start by shoving a leek up the leakers uh orifices

[peak fable]

@sweet delta I actually had a question regarding one of your rankings, if they are still up to date or outdated:

[forest palm]

but when does Azur Lane add a fishing mini game

[rapid shard]

Its updated usally every single time a ship is added FYI

[atomic abyss]

It's not out of date, they are by far some of the tankiest vanguards in the game

Eldridge retro aside due to her skill making everything tanky

Roon isn't even close to their level

[sweet delta]

That is a question for @slow fox

[atomic abyss]

If you paired Eldridge with Yat + Ning/Ping

I'm not sure what would kill them at that point

If anything you'd end up not being able to kill anything

[peak fable]

is the optimal way to play them using only 2 + meta VG ship or all 3 together?

[atomic abyss]

Just to be clear, they do need their retrofit skills

[atomic abyss]

Yat + a Chinese DDG or maybe Harbin and ignore the sisters if you don't need full chonk on both sides

Otherwise yes Yat + 1 of the sisters

[sweet delta]

Ping needs Yat but Yat doesn't need ping or ning, can put DDG or harbin with Yatsen indeed

[peak fable]

so basically, their issue is just the lack of dmg/utility, but they are basically invincible if properly geared and retrofitted

so the only reason to not field them together, is because the tankiness is just overkill, right?

[south sequoia]

how much points does it take to buy the william d porter copy like for the ur voucher conversion

[atomic abyss]

Overkill and lack of dmg yes

[peak fable]

if you do all missions, you will need about 13k points I believe

[stray crane]

this gun good on yudachi ?

[viscid swift]

no

[soft raft]

the two copies are 200 and 300 vouchers respectively
Or in total, 500 for both copies

[atomic abyss]

Well, for base Yuudachi yes
Not for the retro

For the retro a good DD gun would be better

[peak fable]

I should mention this is for the second one, the first one you can get for free by just doing missions

[viscid swift]

also I swear we've told people numerous times not to persue Yuudachi's retrofit

[south sequoia]

i meant like event points to ur voucher
how much do i need
i dont wanna have to spend an extra bulin on william

[peak fable]

but... poi...

[atomic abyss]

Cheeky people have been getting warkai for ages

[stray crane]

i didnt see it

[ivory sigil]

@ocean terrace eh i wonder how why u had so much ironblood tech, do you buy every ironblood tech if they appear in merit shop?

or only the one that appear in fleet tech guide?

i dont see this one in guide at all

[viscid swift]

with Warspite you could at least make the case she's not the worst UR BB damage wise

Yuudachi is literally outclassed by SRs

[atomic abyss]

I mean cheeky
That logic for warkai didn't applypre-augment

[sweet delta]

Because merit is valuable elsewhere

[peak fable]

13k roughly, you get about 420 UR vouchers by doing everything. you need to buy around 80 (I might be off +-10 Vouchers, so maybe 14k, just to be safe)

[stray crane]

how about this one ?

[south sequoia]

yuudachi was ahead of her time back then, before the devs decided to make her the baseline weirdly enough

[atomic abyss]

You don't use her
Period

[soft raft]

Oh
Lemee pull up a old double UR event

I dont remember if the numbers are different for this event but assuming you're guarenteed 340 vouchers:

• 160 remaining vouchers
• 150 event points per voucher
• 24,000 event points required

[stark quiver]

other than aa, what else is gouden good at

[south sequoia]

tanking and damage

[atomic abyss]

Very very bad
They're not BBs
And they don't deal dmg

Just use a proper BB

[stark quiver]

how good is the damage

[stray crane]

anything here that are good ?

[ocean terrace]

slightly more light damage than guam but similar

[stark quiver]

💀

[peak fable]

I was wondering, does Vanguard dmg matter? Like, okay, the question is a bit stupid, but unless you wanna oneshot a meta fight, I was wondering how much a high DPS vanguard even matters as they obviously do less dmg than main fleet ships.

[stray crane]

these the stuff dat i m using rn

[rapid shard]

Do you have eld retro item?

[stray crane]

No

[ocean terrace]

not really, I've bought like 3 or 4 SR bulins from merit
and 1 or 2 Elite ones when I needed them

[atomic abyss]

Ofc it matters
Because backliners don't constantly fire

You need the frontliners to deal with the randoms

Or else your backliners drop their payload on random mooks

[peak fable]

good point

[atomic abyss]

And not the high priority targets

[ocean terrace]

though pure DPS vanguards aren't the best in slot most of the time

[atomic abyss]

You need something to ensure you're actually progressing between waves

You at least need some damage
Not necessarily super high damage

[ocean terrace]

usually they have a mix of buffs and dps, utility, etc

[peak fable]

just enough to make sure your main fleet hits what it should hit, got it

and the rest can go into utility or tankiness

[ember patrol]

is it possible to get some help with a fleet for Yorktown META? lvl 14 was almost three hit when every other time it was a two hit, feel like I'm doing something wrong lol

[rapid shard]

Theres some example fleets in the pins here

[sweet delta]

Did you read the boss skills?

[ember patrol]

briefly

[peak fable]

me when the summons have not been summoned

[ember patrol]

I don't understand the game well enough to understand what the skills mean most of the time

[rapid shard]

W15 Fleet/ 125 and LimitBreak advice

[thorny basalt]

would you guys say it's better to use a +10 Raffaelo gun on a BB against Yorkmeta or a +13 NJ/Lion gun?

[rapid shard]

Shes medium armor so AP gun would be best

[thorny basalt]

I wasn't sure if the +13 made up for the matching armor type

[forest palm]

the Proto Triple 406 Improved Mle 1940 should fair better than most all AP Guns, because it's SAP which targets specifically medium, but anything with HE is going to suck against Medium Armor

[thorny basalt]

I have my Mecklenburg using the gold version because I don't have 2 copies of her gun yet. I +13'd one of those a while back for instances just like this

[ivory sigil]

cool, i runs d3 like over 20 times with 0 appear, all a sudden they reappear 2 at once

i just want to ask if this really the case then, i wont able to make it to 1 HVAR if i reached pts 55k

then i would probably skip it right?

[forest palm]

the regular Mle 1940 is less effective than the 406/50 or the 380 Mle 1935

[viscid swift]

as I've said before. blogging goes to #al-general

[forest palm]

that's just RNG

[ivory sigil]

i just want to hear advice

[thorny basalt]

well Mecklenburg is still doing the most damage with it but I guess tomorrow maybe I'll try giving her NJ gun and see what happens

I'd probably be doing better if I bothered to level up Momo before but I didn't so I'm kind of out of luck there right now

[wind hazel]

if you want hvar you just farm more than 55k, very simple

[viscid swift]

it's completely up to you

I'm vehemently indifferent as to whether people should farm HVARs on the event

[soft raft]

Out of curiosity, how many light armor METAs have we even had ever since Yk2 intial run

like maybe at least 2? Both of which were within this year

[viscid swift]

Jintsuu, Wichita, Kirov on top of the 2 DDs

[soft raft]

Ah right those three

[thorny basalt]

I made sure to farm up to 6 last time I could so I think I'm set on HVARs.

[slow fox]

Roon is not a "truly tanky" vanguard ship.

Eldridge could be considered a contender for a "truly tanky" vanguard ship, though many here will complain about problems regarding consistency.

Contenders for "truly tanky":

Guam
Laffey II
Agir
Anchorage
Napoli
Brest

And I suppose (yes, indeed):

Chinawall - though no one uses Chinawall because it lacks utility and damage output.

[forest palm]

the Mk 7 is HE which is less effective against medium...

[soft raft]

Bro is not cooking 💀

[thorny basalt]

I can't remember which one is which by name, I just remember whose it is. I thought 406/50 was NJ off the top of my head.

[polar lion]

Do I want to farm HVAR still or nah?

[rapid shard]

That depends if you wanna run the EU anti light fleet or just use BBs to nuke stuff

[forest palm]

406/50 is Champaign...

[thorny basalt]

I was just like in my head, I'm pretty sure the Iowa guns were 406mm 50 caliber so it made sense to me

[wind hazel]

interesting name

[viscid swift]

there are a lot of guns in game that are 406mm 50 caliber

[stark quiver]

how much do you have

[polar lion]

7

[rapid shard]

prints or planes?

[polar lion]

Complete planes from wayy back then

[rapid shard]

You only need at max 6 for triple light cv fleet

[stark quiver]

i dont think you need more
unless you want 13 for if 3x3 figher cvs
and 3 vanguards with plane slots lmao

[silk helm]

should i stay pr8 for third meck gun? or go back pr7

[stark quiver]

sure

[wind hazel]

3rd is good

[polar lion]

La9 is good

[silk helm]

is la9 going be in gear lab soon

[stark quiver]

ofc not

[trail dagger]

Prob soon protocore shop

[silk helm]

sad

[polar lion]

La9 prolly u want lots moar than 3 Meck guns

[viscid swift]

not really

4 has been sufficient for everything thus far

[stark quiver]

la9 fleet requires more investment and shit

[wind hazel]

well to be fair, 4 is greater than 3

[silk helm]

i dont have soyuz anyways either

[stark quiver]

no really

[silk helm]

i dont think any cv fleets are usable w/o her right

[viscid swift]

what

[polar lion]

CV + Soyuz?

[silk helm]

ye like dont all the top CV comps have soyuz?

[wind hazel]

for medium, relevant one yes

[viscid swift]

Nahkmov isn't the top for medium armor without her but her and La-9s are still quite useful soyuz or no soyuz

[polar lion]

U mean Soyuz and nyak fleet

[wind hazel]

you can cope with IJN if you want to

[silk helm]

sadge..

[wind hazel]

easier to run BB

[polar lion]

IJN + Eldkai works to a certain extent too

[silk helm]

ye now i have max rld for BB too

[wind hazel]

and that's why 3rd meck gun is good

[stark quiver]

remind me your commander level again

[wind hazel]

higher than you

[silk helm]

no... i am a new player

[ivory sigil]

u new and u are talk about la9? that dont sound new at all

even me dont dare to talk about getting a flap

[polar lion]

What happens if I buy lvl70 commando pack but current lvl is higher?

[rapid shard]

Flaps are really cheap to get after your first opsi month

[stark quiver]

you get everything but the level

[viscid swift]

your commander level isn't affected

[polar lion]

Okay

Thot people can cheese lvl with packs

[ember patrol]

ok looked at the example fleets that someone mentioned for Yorktown META, I don't have Mecklenburg anywhere near usable (well level wise anyway), same with Kurumi, don't have Soyuz, so who should I use instead of them? (From the example fleets I have Momo, Trafalgar, Helena, Plymouth, Lion, Bismarck Zwei) Any suggestions?

[wind hazel]

bb with alsace or fritz, take the 2 shot

[viscid swift]

you might just have to Helena your way to a one shot if that's what you're looking for

[wind hazel]

how many radar scan for 1shot helena?

[viscid swift]

I do not recall

[sweet delta]

I did it with a Helena and 0 scans

[hollow gust]

you really dont need helena scan for helmet

[wind hazel]

[hollow gust]

she is so much easier compared to newer bosses

[ocean terrace]

should I be giving this to my tank? or the squishiest ship in my vanguard that isn't a DD

[hollow gust]

tank

[forest palm]

CA, CB, and CL all generally want this

[hollow gust]

CA/CLs/CBs and like 2 DDs mayyybe

[ocean terrace]

so prioritise tanks then off-tanks for this, alright tyyy

[wind hazel]

not all cruisers are offtanks

some wanna be sandwiched

[ocean terrace]

then if my off-tank or tank happens to be a DD, put it on a cruiser instead?

[forest palm]

just understand cruisers have low eva which impacts their eHP, the Rudder helps boost that EVA that's why it's generally applicable to cruisers