gameplay-help

[brisk dragon]

i see. ty. ican spend a bit more then

[undone plover]

If cube shortage usual advice is 3x per day and hope for the best

[stark quiver]

you guys have 3 weeks to farm

[undone plover]

Less if u want to guarantee guam and cant have ~250 by 15-01

[rain bobcat]

exactly what you would think from a mathematical standpoint

a straight up percentage boost in dmg

how big or how little it is you check wiki

[brisk dragon]

too late. spent 444 cubes and got her
but thx nonetheless. will try to rememeer it for next time i get unlucky

[undone plover]

4% dmg Increase for the gear at +11
6% +12
8% +13
total +18%

it is how you boost end game gear even further but it is very expensive as gold plates are rare so be careful what u enhance past +10

[rain bobcat]

thats total dmg gain avg

coefficient boosts can vary

[stark quiver]

DO NOT +13 a 100kai

[white agate]

welp, don't +13 a vanguard gun i think is the rule of thumb no?

first you need all your useful BB gun to be +13

[undone plover]

Yeah as always majority of dmg is from backliners

[teal cedar]

Ayo is it worth replacing Kuybyshev with Dmitri Donskoi

[undone plover]

Check suchi’s tierlist

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13YbPw3dM2eN6hr3YfVABIK9LVuCWnVZF0Zp2BGOZXc0/edit?usp=drivesdk

DD is better but maybe u have someone even better than her?

[flat wraith]

Does island planer provide anything for the main game?
Backgrounds, portraits, battle ui
or any resourses that can be used like plates/cubes/oil etc.

[stark quiver]

it gives you gifts that can be used to raise affinity on ships
also gives gems i think

[brisk osprey]

Do I save up for the ur bulin or get the mic so I can retrofit San Diego

[white agate]

excluding making my game crash it gives some items to rise affinity with your ships

can also just farm the affinity normally

[stark quiver]

bulin

[white agate]

guess it keeps crashing on me due to low graph card spec? is there like a min requirement?

[stark quiver]

whats ur gpu

also idk anything abt emus
i use mumu12

[cobalt robin]

mumu the goat

[cobalt robin]

try to switch from directx to vulkan

[white agate]

its on phone

[cobalt robin]

what phone do you have

[white agate]

on pc i need to optimize the virual machine spec since my pc becomes an airplane

[tulip tinsel]

just delete island shitter it's a waste of time

[white agate]

but i wanted to do the tutorial

[hushed sorrel]

for me it works but you may need to try multiple times also changing the map crashes on my phone. i would say you will only have fun on pc

[white agate]

same, the cutscene get also killed; same for some dialogues

the only way to make it work seems to be by doing it as first thing when you open the game

[hushed sorrel]

i think so too, sometimes even having a secretary with a animation vs one who dont have one can be a difference :o

[cobalt robin]

potato pc problems ig 😔

[hushed sorrel]

no its on phone

atleast in my case (pc works fine)

[white agate]

can't even upgrade both for the next 2y

[cobalt robin]

are you playing on a nokia

well if you do play on mumu emu you can try these settings, tho 4gb ram and 4cores is plenty for AL

[stark quiver]

my 5070 ti runs it fine

[cobalt robin]

[forest palm]

emulation is a bitch, and always differs from rig to rig

[autumn yarrow]

is there any way of getting dorm food except spending oil? i keep running out

[inland shoal]

Yeah, spending gems
There's also some in medal shop and a tiny bit in event shop, but ultimately food isn't that important

[twin bronze]

Medal shop, weekly supply, event shop, sometimes in regular shop

[autumn yarrow]

do you still get the morale recovery buff if you dont have food?

[inland shoal]

Yes

You even still get exp, just at 1/4 the rate

[autumn yarrow]

so food is useless then?

[inland shoal]

Well it raises to exp gain by 4x
That said the full exp gain from dorm isn't that much
So yeah I wouldn't spend anything on dorm food. Eventually you can start spending coins and medals on it cuz you'll get more than enough of those anyway

[autumn yarrow]

damn. well them bitches gonna live in there like its siberia

air gear

[white agate]

my NVIDIA GeForce GT 740 screams a bit

[white agate]

wait, island planner has no auto farm resources?

[late flame]

-# lowkey why i quit island planning yes

[cobalt rampart]

would it be safe to disassemble all blue gear items? depot is full and theyre like 2/3 of it..

[cobalt robin]

poor grandpa working overtime

[white agate]

some are still useful

[cobalt robin]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Thebombzen/Safe_To_Scrap_MK_II
some are worth keeping for gearlab etc

[cobalt rampart]

ooh i didnt know that had a page ty

[white agate]

it's a bit conservative since it tells you to keep also gear endgame players never use , but still ok for new or mid game players

[late flame]

~~ i just keep if something looks cool or crafts to something i want later~~

[peak fable]

what is max commander level?

[viscid swift]

200

[peak fable]

is it rare among veterans? havent seen anyone that high in pvp iirc

[viscid swift]

I don't know of anyone who is commander level 200 period across all servers

[white agate]

did someone even reach it?

[viscid swift]

highest I last checked was like 198 or something

[white agate]

only hackers probably

[peak fable]

I see, so I assume it takes a very, VERY long time, got it

[white agate]

thats... incredibly close

[dense crag]

Do I need to beat Part 2 of the event to unlock the SP part?

[deep cypress]

Yes.

[sweet delta]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1g2xjzjEP5/ 200 since October

[clear harbor]

Just D3 I think. If I understand correctly, you can do A1-3 and B1,2, then D3. I didn't know about this until till late, so I didn't try it out myself.

[undone plover]

tho b3 has 3x once a day as well so maybe worth clearing if u can do 1:1 fleet

[white agate]

was there a way to check if a specific gun is unique or not?

without going in the wiki

[stark quiver]

go on lars db
its not wiki

[whole crypt]

what do you mean unique?

[stark quiver]

and no there isnt
unless u wanna chck every map drop/gear lab/craft possibilities

[white agate]

things like the mikasa gun

[whole crypt]

me and my measely 156

off the top of my head it's that, gangut gun and the Chinese seaplane

[verbal mulch]

Is the UR Destroyer worth getting?

[weary gust]

Why would you not. You buy her with currency you cannot spend on anything else.

[soft raft]

(besides coins)

[weary gust]

Yes, coins, the things people famously intentionally overcap on/max out on and intentionally lose out on hundreds of thousands worth of, that valuable currency.

[analog tendon]

Speaking of this, we only get the 2 copies of WDP in the event shop, right? Aren't there other ways to obtain her?

[analog tendon]

I eagerly await the day i can be like these people

[hushed sorrel]

if that is the ur destroyer, no and that will stay for around 2 years like that. and the second one is much more difficult to get than the first

[white agate]

there is always a way to spend gold, its just about how lazy you are in not finding it

[analog tendon]

i have the opposite problem: my oil and gold vanish as soon as i get them

[rapid shard]

Until you finish coining all your PRs/DRs, upgrading gear, and slow down on awakening ships nonstop gold always gonna be vanishing

[analog tendon]

Yeah i noticed. At least now that i can farm 12-4 i'm not anymore at the stage of "gotta pick a research that doesn't require gold or i'll be down to THREE DIGITS"

[weary gust]

This game actually has its gold sink system really well designed. I've been playing actively for 5 years and I have never gone over softcap for more than a few minutes, there's always ways to spend gold, even if sometimes that is just rerolling cats.

[white agate]

there is also retrofitting all your ships and leveling a lot of gears
we don't talk about the cattery and cat talent reset too

[rain bobcat]

[inland shoal]

I wouldn't say the coin sink is well designed just cuz cats are a literal trashcan for coins

[cobalt robin]

getting perfect cats is too much minmaxing

i forgor which ones but tempesta has couple good cats that wont cost multiple millions of coins

[analog tendon]

Every and Drake

[woven star]

Dam. Never thought that Ting An can be so useful

[cobalt robin]

yes and teach too

[ivory sigil]

Woah noted. Mind if i know the gear?

-# (inb4 full rainbow)

[white agate]

wait till you can use halford

[woven star]

any better seaplane and Watasumi Res Notes

[weary gust]

I rarely have to reroll cats to stay below soft cap. Maybe once per month at most. I can usually keep below between cognitive awakening, making unique augments, buying stuff from the shop, gear lab+upgrading gears

[ivory sigil]

Hi i know i been said to priortize on Mecklenburg / Gouden due to they're being the DR

As well as some past DR like FdG
But what about someother? Should i be picky and not choose them?
-# (I once see Breas... I MEAN Brest or Nakv or some random DR but it is kinda a choice whether i had full of coin to choose them or skip if i lack of coin... not really priortize to get the coin enough for them)

[weary gust]

You'll eventually get all of them if you play long enough. At the start though, focus on researching the latest season (8) and having a PR/DR from previous seasons built so you can buy blueprints daily with coins for them.

[woven star]

good point. i will make her

[inland shoal]

How many UAs do you have?

[weary gust]

I have no idea on the number. I've built most of the collab ones and all the ones that significantly increase their respective ship's performance. I haven't built a good number of them on the randos that are totally irrelevant. Maybe about 1/2 of all of them?

[inland shoal]

I see, I started building all kinds of UAs just to stay below 600k and that's with farming 12-1

But I just do not do cats

[ivory sigil]

How long had they (8) been around?
And would there an estimate assumption time for the next season (9) to arrive?

[inland shoal]

But recently I've been less active so my coins have plummeted

[weary gust]

I started with building all the Unique Augments as they came out, but the material aquisition rate wasn't high enough to maintain that so I held off on the less important ones. Not sure if the total rate you get materials has increased enough to sustain building all that get released.

[hollow gust]

PRs is always late July

[inland shoal]

Nah you can't craft them all, not enough cores

Like I have 650 cores left and to craft all the UAs I don't have I'd need 1230
Not to mention getting them to lvl 10 which is 15 T3 / 150 T2 / 1500 T1 exp stones, so there I'm also only at ~56% of what I'd need for all of them. And I'm not sure if either of them is even on an upwards trend

[median prism]

Is lexington II good?

[weary gust]

If you're asking because you're a new player and just pulled her, not for you yet, any ship not at max limit break isn't ready to be used and you won't have the resources to max limit break her for a while.
If you're asking because you don't have her, all UR event ships are worth pulling for always on their release event.

[median prism]

Just got her, and i can MLB her right now actually

[weary gust]

Do you have any other UR ships? She may not be the highest priority for you to build first among them.

[median prism]

Uhh i havr MLB hakuhou

[covert phoenix]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uU-t3CrFFpKFrheOUHSNHysDfb86P11OztobBlAWWK8/edit?tab=t.0

What is the one-shot potential of the slow BB fleet setup against Yorktown meta in this document?

[weary gust]

Any UR BBs?

[median prism]

NJ.

Not MLBed

Im waiting for Sov soyuz rerun

[weary gust]

Don't spend UR bulins on URs in the perma pool, wait till you get duplicates for that.
Probably okay to go ahead and limit break Lex2. You could take screenshots of your dock and post them in a thread for us to see what else you have if there'd be a better choice if you want.

[weary gust]

I'd assume low/nonexistent given he describes the setup as meh.

[median prism]

I think im gonna wait for Sov Soyuz rerun prolly better use for bulins since i dont have UR BB

[weary gust]

I have 88 Unique Augments at +10. How many are there total?

[wind hazel]

198

[weary gust]

Slightly under half then

[wind hazel]

but some are the free collabs one so

lazy deduct those, it's less than 198

[inland shoal]

So I have 116 of them

[inland shoal]

You should be able to get 4 new rainbow bulins by then I think

Unless we get Soyuz rerun before February somehow

[ivory pawn]

If I were a betting man, I'd bet March.

So yeah, should easily get another 4 ur bulins.

[ocean fiber]

Is this good gear to get

[weary gust]

Event limited gear is always good to get.

[ocean fiber]

So it’s good gear like the limited Yorktown 2 gear

[uneven knot]

worth using bulins on WDP?

[weary gust]

I didn't say it was good.

[ivory pawn]

Remains to be seen, but you'd rather have it if you need it yeah?

[ocean fiber]

Ok question but who are best urs we revived this year excluding lexi2 since i dont think we know that yet

[weary gust]

Stat wise it's worse than a normal purple helldiver.

[ocean fiber]

Are you talking about the hellcat?

[viscid swift]

well it doesn't compete with a helldiver in what it does either

it's the best fast reloading DB we have, a direct upgrade to the Suisei Kai

[weary gust]

Maybe some specialized use for really fast launches/skill requirements but general use it's not going to see action.

[ocean fiber]

Can I ask which ur is the best shop we revived this year either the secondary urs or firsts urs

[viscid swift]

well if Yorktown and Lexington 2 prove to be back on type for light armor it's gonna see quite a decent amount of use in meta fights

[ivory pawn]

It's Lion by a large margin. Trafalgar kinda ties in thanks to supporting Lion so well. I-404 is technically the best sub. Hakuhou is a good upgrade for the IJN CV fleet, Raff is a great mobber.

[viscid swift]

what

[zenith heron]

he meant UR Ship

[weary gust]

We know he meant UR ships, we don't know what first or secondary URs means.

[viscid swift]

or what revived means

[ivory pawn]

I hope revived meant received.

[weary gust]

Received typo.

Like how shop = ship

[zenith heron]

Probably the Pull URs and the Free URs at event shops

[weary gust]

He could mean reruns by "secondary" though.

[viscid swift]

the sentence really does not make sense

[ocean fiber]

Yes

Also have we figured out who form the pr season is worth to research?

[viscid swift]

just the DRs as per usual these days

[undone plover]

Mecklenburg is the best
gouden leeuw is like guam good for ch15 iirc

[viscid swift]

I need to finish up my UR limit breaking guide

[undone plover]

Cheeky churning out guides like Manjuu with UR ships

[viscid swift]

and where is your syncing guide

[verbal mulch]

Cause I’m on vacation right now with my family and I’d rather not grind Azur Lane for hours.

[shadow yarrow]

I tried using the fritz+nakh+soyuz+ helena combo vs the ex boss but can i do better than that?

[weary gust]

You don't need to grind for hours. Just login and do your dailies in 5 minutes and run SP once.

You can do it while on the toilet.

[undone plover]

the event is 3 weeks there is 17 days left
but if u can login every day and do these missions it will help u alot with the currency
it is 1 SP run and 1 random mission
takes 5 mins

[patent pivot]

@undone plover while I see you here. Im updating my autotesters formatting. Any data you want to convert to the new format just lmk

That goes for anyone who ordered testing from me. Iirc just faerlin here though

[ocean fiber]

This is correct fleet structure right?

[viscid swift]

for?

[brisk osprey]

Is William d porter worth investing into?

[ocean fiber]

Just for general grinding I believe and events

[viscid swift]

you don't need to use maxed fleets for such an easy grind

[undone plover]

general grinding = get xp on new ships not max level ships

[ocean fiber]

Wait no I think I asked for a world fleet

[undone plover]

she is a very good ship for campaign and a decent boss buffer + very good for EU fleet but atm EU fleet could only be meta in light armor enemies
check this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7L-0rDViII

however she is UR so expensive
so maybe not your highest prio for bulins

[undone plover]

u need to give more information so we can help u
what are these 2 fleets for?

which world/chapter?
or is it for operation siren?

if for general farming in ch12 or event better use ships at level 90-100 to get them to 120
using level 125 ship for farming = wasted xp

[ocean fiber]

I think I’m trying to build a feels just to be as powerful as my secound and first fleet since I only have like 2 fleets in format

[undone plover]

that is ok but u are using level 125 ships
so they have full xp already
no need to use them for farming
Just keep them in dock until u do harder content

For now replace them with 12 new ships who are good and need xp
for example this is what I am using to farm now

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[atomic abyss]

[ocean fiber]

You know I’m leveling up ships too as well but different methods

[undone plover]

ok then to criticize the structure here
laffey 1 is weak and should be replaced
anchorage should be main tank when she is level 120-125
jervis can be replaced since you dont need 2 tanks maybe someone with more AA/dps

fleet 2 is overall fine
1 BB 2 CV more ideal in campaign but 2 BB can work

i would put laffey 2 in fleet 1 and put helena or a strong dps ship for boss fleet
if u are doing ch14 or ch15 u probably need better vanguard tho
but this should work up to ch13

[ocean fiber]

This is a draft or an idea for a third fleet idea

[hollow gust]

Ulrich also becomes a problem , especially for initial clear w14 without Musashi protecting her she kinda just dies

[ocean fiber]

@hollow gust may I ask why?

[hollow gust]

Why you don't need a 3rd fleet or why Ulrich mid asf

[ocean fiber]

I don’t think I understand what your saying

[rapid shard]

You never use more than 2 fleets for everything (other than opsi and W15 Support fleet)

[atomic abyss]

1. You don't need a 3rd fleet
2. Ulrich is mid

[hollow gust]

What are you asking why about ? You don't need a 3rd fleet because your 2 other fleets are half build and honestly not very good.

Ulrich is inferior at w14 because of the speed she shoot , she literally gets herself killed by being revealed to quickly . Your frontline doesn't have the output to save her

[undone plover]

tbf he never mentioned he is doing ch14
I was just trying to cover as much ground as I could since there seems to be a language barrier

[ocean fiber]

No there’s no language barrier I just come here for advice about a fleet 3 and then got sidetracked

[wind hazel]

💧 👑 waterking my friend

[undone plover]

i see
my bad then sry that was not very clear from the first few messages i read
well for fleet 3 just raise ships u think are good
u can show your dock if u want specific advice
u can also check the tier lists we have

/tierlist

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Ship Tier Lists

Please note that tier lists are subjective and evaluation criteria differ from creator to creator. We encourage users to use multiple guides to get a better picture for ships' performance and said criteria.

🔹Rankings for End Game Azur Lane - Applicable to all forms of late game content (W14/15, META Showdowns, OPSI, CM) by Suchiguma
🔹CN tier list by Hashtag 5467

use /equip for list of equipment TLs and guides
use /guide for list of helpful gameplay guides and FAQs

[viscid swift]

Oh right commands got updated

[hollow gust]

The brutal honestly is that your fleet just has too much problems to fix before you even consider a fleet 3 for anything

[viscid swift]

I still don't know what they're trying to do

[ocean fiber]

Ok please give a minute

[balmy skiff]

who is the worst UR,performance wise?

[ocean fiber]

Ok so how do I make it bette r

[hollow gust]

Put dock in thread

[viscid swift]

Performance wise for what?

In absolute terms though probably Drake or Yuudachi retro

[hollow gust]

I find shima far less useful for the average player

[viscid swift]

well I'm not considering investment

[balmy skiff]

Main UR (BB,CV,CVL,BC)

[viscid swift]

and with Shima you can at least say she has a double preload even if 2 other ships in game also have it

[viscid swift]

single target or campaign?

[balmy skiff]

campaign

[viscid swift]

oh Warspite easily then

or Kearsarge

[ocean fiber]

Where is dock threads

[hollow gust]

Make your own

[ocean fiber]

Dock thread

[ruby grotto]

Any tips to beating yorktow meta

[hollow gust]

It's pinned

[keen flower]

warspite retro still good? iirc my second retro was warspite
on my old acc

[atomic abyss]

With her augment she's now capable of competing with the worst UR BBs, like New Jersey, so yes good

She needs her augment otherwise she's shit

[ocean fiber]

@hollow gust the pin is set with the photos

[hallow mountain]

Is Porter even good...?

What the fuck is this skill lmao

I hope there'll be a special skill activation once Iowa comes out

[soft raft]

She mainly shines in majority eagle union comps
otherwise she's still good, but not as good or flexible as the other Shop UR DDs

[hallow mountain]

Good thing I have more Eagle girls in my comps

But this skill still sounds wack, like idk where it fits best

She sounds like a good AA buffer though

[ivory sigil]

Oh oh... now i understand
yeah i guess u are correct

Crossfleet x lowcost oil is for the endgame player with like 10+ UR + plentious Rainbowgear

Turn out inb4 i read the guide for like tons of time and still cant understand what does the crossfleet do

I saw WillyD crossfleet the 1st time today that i learned they did help... for abit

I think the guide should adding a part called: Cheat Oil system via using Crossfleet + LowOilcost ship

[hallow mountain]

Not really honestly imo. Just give her good torpedo gear

[hollow gust]

[wind hazel]

crossfleet in action. it will nuke ship for you

[hollow gust]

We have 4 backline Eagle rainbows that can easily benefit

[ivory sigil]

yeah it does make sense of how easily endgame ppl can farm exp for new character

[wind hazel]

... that's... not relevant

[ivory sigil]

I do start to think about farming EXP for researcher ship

[ocean terrace]

what... you try to use as little ships as you can, it's nothing to do with farming exp for new ships

[wind hazel]

i hope you realize that what im doing now is actually the opposite of farming exp

it's actually really bad for farming exp

[ocean terrace]

it's to get clear rewards from stages while using the least amount of oil you can

[hollow gust]

Are your current ships even 120 why think about research already

[wind hazel]

chasing 146123103123 rabbits at once behaviour

[hollow gust]

Told him that many times too

[ivory sigil]

I mean Saint Louis is maxed the exp bro, most of my fleet are EU and they had helped Saint louis to maxed the exp dev

technically i could start other ship and farm exp for them to save up time for future maybe...

But i dont have any other ship to farm exp for her (Neptune)

[hollow gust]

Bro has ships like Kurumi, Tohka twins etc and still looking for more ships

[ocean terrace]

yeah but it doesn't have much correlation with what you were talking about, aka low cost 1:1 fleets

[ivory sigil]

yeah i still been ignoring for now, i just want to see any advice, since there isnt any tech to start either

[ocean terrace]

if you're talking about crossfleet being useful for farming exp for low level ships, I agree with you

[hollow gust]

Actually just getting trolled at this point

[stark quiver]

be patient goosey

[hollow gust]

[south sequoia]

How much of a personal damage increase is indep augment

[rain bobcat]

roon>fdg>anchorage>plymouth>agir>shimanto>avp don't touch anything else before

[wind hazel]

how to farm exp efficiently?

go to 12-1, pick 12 ships you want to level up, put the 6 stronger ships at boss fleet, give everyone decent gear, and start grinding

[ivory sigil]

well, lowcost fleet require Cross Fleet ability of strong UR right?

[south sequoia]

like in %

[ocean terrace]

yes, but you said that's useful for farming exp, when it isn't
it's purely to clear stages and gain rewards for least oil you can

[hollow gust]

How to progress in the game? Stick to your fleet and farm....

[wind hazel]

this is what low oil cost farming looks like. you won't achieve this in less than 2 years, forget about it for now.

[hollow gust]

Especially considering how busted the collab event is for progression idk why are you still trying to swap ships in and out

[clear harbor]

Cross fleet is just abilities that work from an inactive fleet, right?

[wind hazel]

ok maybe less than 1 year since soyuz alsace gonna rerun lol

[stark quiver]

yo hella noob

[rain bobcat]

no idea honestly, but its just a 4 plane rocket barrage every 20s iirc

[ivory sigil]

yeah that's for event + low oil cost

So yeah u did mention about 1st fleet for 0lb ranger / etc/
and 2nd fleet for UR with crossfleet ability
so yeah ppl can abuse this to farm 1st fleet EXP, bringing new ship to farm
It's not about low oil i'm talking about, it is about farming exp for new ship by abusing Crossfleet

forget about it then
I just a skeptical man that Refuse to spam EXP book for my new ship

most of my ship now is stuck at lv30 and cant get lv70 due to lack of EXP book

[wind hazel]

can you please read this and stop creating delusional way to farm exp

[stark quiver]

[ivory sigil]

well i learned it today then @wind hazel will do when i reach lv80

perhaps after daily reset of today

[ocean terrace]

what did you even spend all those exp books on, I have plenty left and ran out of ships to use them on even after mlb'ing ships for faction tech

[wind hazel]

you can start doing that in D3

[rain bobcat]

newer ships can't 1:1 D3 below lvl 90-100 and clear everything even with crossfleet

[ivory sigil]

huh? D3 had same oil/ exp effiency like 12-1?

[ocean terrace]

10-3

[rain bobcat]

you can clear mobs but not boss which is what you want to clear with low fleet as well

[wind hazel]

low cost isn't viable for people that haven't maxed out majority of the ships either

you want the ships exp, commander level

[ocean terrace]

they're telling you, you can use D3 to level ships you need to level, since your main fleet is strong enough to clear it

[wind hazel]

you're wasting the 2nd fleet exp potential by using just crossfleets, unless you mono fleet 1, which imo isn't as efficient because it slows down the rotation process of swapping ship in and out when they reach lv120

[ocean terrace]

also which ships are you trying to level anyway?

[ivory sigil]

huh ? I have like only under 300 EXP book, while using 200 of them to lvl up WillyD and Lexi2 to lv80 so i can start bring them to D3

this is my usual Fleet to farm D3 okay????

[stark quiver]

its fine

[wind hazel]

why invest in willy d

[stark quiver]

mog

[ocean terrace]

ah okay, that's good then

[wind hazel]

and this isn't fine wtf

[ivory sigil]

because i have no one else

[ocean terrace]

triple CV mob yeah, but meh

[wind hazel]

triple cv on fleet 2 lol. bring kotori over

[hollow gust]

Why or when the fuck did you swap even more ships in

[ocean terrace]

if it works it works ig

[ivory sigil]

uni and yoshi for healing 🏥

[obtuse island]

why is unicorn on what i assume is the boss fleet

[ivory sigil]

mobfleet

[ocean terrace]

usually you want a BB as flag for suicide ships to protect your CVs

[ivory sigil]

The D3 work fine
all everyone survive
Laffey is quite mid in her ability, so i priortize on willyD 1st to get abit of her crossfleet skill

[ocean terrace]

as long as you keep that in mind it's fine

[wind hazel]

then remove the lv125 ships, raise another

[rain bobcat]

dont use lvl 120 ships in mob as a newbie, sub in all <120 ships and use them until all 120

[hollow gust]

[rain bobcat]

because wtf is the point, you won't have arrays to get them to lvl 125 anyway so it's effectively exp being wasted

[ivory sigil]

i will eventually get laffey to lv120 what soever in future
but getting willyD to lv100 is probably my stop point

[ocean terrace]

question about this though, what if you've only mlb'd ships you're using? would I be subbing in 0lb ships?

[wind hazel]

no, you always sub in mlb ships

[ocean terrace]

they might not have other mlb ships

[rain bobcat]

no, just chill until you mlb them

[hollow gust]

The absolute obsession in swapping in and out ships is flatly ruining the huge advantage you got from collab

[rain bobcat]

waste exp if you have no choice, don't waste exp when you have the choice not to. simple

[wind hazel]

it's quite unlikely to have zero mlb elite ships unless you're really spreading your bulin around

[ocean terrace]

true, alright ty

[wind hazel]

like remove kotori, raise someone else. even hiryu or saratoga, whatever that can benefit you in term of ship or tech

[ivory sigil]

okay then

[wind hazel]

dont waste that exp slot

[ivory sigil]

which level i should spam exp Book for them?

[wind hazel]

~70 is enough for D3

[ivory sigil]

yaeh

that's literally bankrupt all my expbook for 1 ship to start farming exp

[ocean terrace]

I've only awakened Unicorn to level 125 since I'm not at W14/W15 yet, I don't need to 125 any other ships atm right?
most of my mob/boss fleet are 120 now

[stark quiver]

my lvl 70 willy d dies in d3
idt its enough

[wind hazel]

yes cause you're failing your maths. that lv80

[ivory sigil]

[wind hazel]

because a vanguard ship is not the same as mainfleet ship

[stark quiver]

you were talking abt main fleet?

[wind hazel]

is kotori a vanguard?

[hollow gust]

Am I going insane that lexy skill 1 is purely defensive

[stark quiver]

kotori is not a ultra rare british battleship

[wind hazel]

i feel like im going crazy

[ocean terrace]

lmao he's talking about HMS Vanguard

[wind hazel]

???????????????

[ocean terrace]

he's making a joke.

[wind hazel]

it landed poorly

[ocean terrace]

ahem

[stark quiver]

that was the point

[wind hazel]

you didnt even need to 125 unicorn before w14

what else you have?

[ocean terrace]

yeah but I was in pain seeing none of them gain exp

[wind hazel]

show your capped ships

[ocean terrace]

Helena might be worth ig

[wind hazel]

enterprise

then your lexii

[ocean terrace]

alright ty

[ivory sigil]

wait but why does when i press awaken of my 115 ship kurumi, she increased into 117 immediate? does that mean EXP is saved and accumulate even of press awaken?

[wind hazel]

they can store 3m exp

[ocean terrace]

yes up to 3 million exp

[onyx flame]

assuming their alr lvl 100 minimum

[ocean terrace]

I'm running out of snacks, what's a good sustainable way of getting them

[ivory sigil]

so assume i keep unicorn Lv120
she would get accumulated 3 million exp before i reach w14

and when i reach w14, i press awaken, does it help her reach 125 immediate?

[ocean terrace]

I don't wanna use oil on snacks...

[ivory sigil]

you must

or else 💳

[wind hazel]

buy from medal shops with excess, or just leave them hungry

not worth to use oil for snacks

[ocean terrace]

I'm oil-less as it is with event farming lol

[ivory sigil]

Do you buy them from Guild shop yet? @ocean terrace

[stark quiver]

how much snacks do you have
send ss of the restock screen

[ivory sigil]

yea but before the event
i was stocking oil and it reached capped both outside and passive oil

and thus i spam abit for snack

[stark quiver]

damn bro

[ivory sigil]

WHAT

[ocean terrace]

but I had a lot more even just last week

[stark quiver]

just let them starve
get them when they are up on guild shop

[wind hazel]

congrats you wasted your oil

[ivory sigil]

i should have swipe

[ocean terrace]

no wonder you've been broke on coins

[ivory sigil]

i not broke on coin after the event
im suffer from having it capped now

SO i BOUGHT SAN DIEGO A AUGMENT GUN with 10K

[stark quiver]

stocking to waste

[trim depot]

is there a fast way to get back oil

[ocean terrace]

well before it you were is my point, also missing out on commander exp

[stark quiver]

paying irl money
but dont so just wait for passive regen

[trim depot]

damn alr

[ivory sigil]

i'm 99% away from lv80

[onyx flame]

well just wait for about 2 and a half hours, weekly reset is almost here

[ivory sigil]

But since i ranout of oil im waiting for tmr

OR JUST BUY OIL FROM EVENT SHOP 4000 OIL BTW

[onyx flame]

more oil soon ™

[ocean terrace]

first thing I did was buy oil from event shop, it's 5000 oil iirc

[trim depot]

also how is commander exp gain determined I keep getting 59 per battle only regardless

[onyx flame]

No of ships used in battle plus rank of the battle

[trim depot]

I compared a rank 1 and 3 battle I still got 59 for both tho

[onyx flame]

rank as in A/S at the end screen

[trim depot]

oh alr

[sick kettle]

is there another team that are as cheap as Unicorn and Taiwan that is capable of clearing D3? I've been only using them to farm the event so their morales drop quickly

[onyx flame]

only way to get cheaper is using lower rairty or non mlb ship but you have to shove a lot of crossfleet

[wind hazel]

nothing else as cheap, but close. your standard other healer like zuihou, aquila etc

[ivory sigil]

wait what if i forgot to let them at lv115? does exp accumulate overly ? so when i press Awaken at lv115 would it increase 120 to awaken 1 more to immediate to 125 too?

[wind hazel]

what

[supple mica]

How essential are healers for maps? Been playing for a while without guides ive just been curious

[wind hazel]

exp accumulate as long as you haven't awaken your ship past lv100. be it 105, 110, 115, 120

[viscid swift]

You're making your life infinitely more difficult than it has to be not running Unicorn retrofit in your mob fleet

[hollow gust]

Very

[viscid swift]

There's a reason why for the progression guide the healer slot is basically exclusively about Unicorn

[supple mica]

ive been just winging it with my mob fleet. been able to clear all content ive tried mostly.

[ivory sigil]

-# Cowpen please comehome i need your milk oops i mean your heal... at least that she is a worth ship to farm exp than willyD

[viscid swift]

I mean you certainly can do without a healer especially for easy content like early campaign

Doesn't mean there isn't a better method though

[wind hazel]

it depends on how much is stored, it's possible to reach 125 from lv115 for non UR

[supple mica]

fair enough

[viscid swift]

And we say all of this to make your life easier

[trim depot]

are URs normally like twice the oil cost as everyone else

i just realised Lexington is 12

[viscid swift]

URs do have high oil cost yes

[supple mica]

Literally just retro fitted her with my saved up Blueprints. what should i run gear wise on her?

[wind hazel]

DR is even more expensive than UR

[viscid swift]

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide

[wind hazel]

🫃🏼 why? idk.

[trim depot]

what is dr

[wind hazel]

decisive rarity, your shipyard UR like agir, nakhimov etc

[ivory sigil]

depend on limitbreak and their rank too
Elite is like 9 oil cost MLB
SR is lik 10 oil cost at MLB

[trim depot]

O

[onyx flame]

imaginary ships need imaginary fuel

[trail dagger]

Is Minimum level for vangurard 90 for d3 or 12-1? My level 80 kazagumo barely alive in middle position

[weary gust]

Depends on the ship/gear/fleet tech/fleet comp/crossfleets

[wind hazel]

both fine tbh

[trail dagger]

I see, only way to make dd survive more is toolkit?

[viscid swift]

I've run level 70 vanguards regularly through w12

[trail dagger]

Is 40 sec for each fight too long?

[viscid swift]

I only see fights last that long for 3 star nodes

[wind hazel]

what aux are you using on her? and what's your fleet

[stark quiver]

[upbeat wagon]

Put magnetic torps on kaga

[trail dagger]

Budget , my gold is gone XD

[wind hazel]

if you can, bring centaur over. your mainfleet dps is kinda garbage. and +10 the other toolkit

... and why is there missing dd

[supple mica]

Thank u for the Unicorn recommendation that really helped

[hot turret]

How good is I-13

[ivory sigil]

u using her for endgame content?

[soft raft]

Complete doo doo ass

[ivory sigil]

well i assume Hard Arbeiter so perhaps this picture can somewhat giving abit of hint for what you would plan to build next

for usual farming content, i think she is not worth replace the free one

for endgame content, u better use those with S rank from Endgame tierlist

[soft raft]

There's a reason why IJN subs that are not called I-404 are irrelevant as hell

[trail dagger]

Ah , so the main fleet is problematic, i

[wind hazel]

yes, indep without retro is not good. avp isn't really something that great outside of bossing either

and fill your empty dd slot, don't waste the exp

[ocean terrace]

I should put ships I wanna prioritise levelling in mob fleet for farming right? Regardless of whether they're better for mobbing/bossing

alr tyty

[ivory sigil]

yeah i had same question with husky

this should be doable right?

[hot turret]

Nah I simply just pulled her so I was just curious, I don't use subs rn, I'll take care of it later

Also at last I have her

[onyx flame]

#trophy-room

[rain bobcat]

if it's for d3 you can legit.....
just use sandy over kurumi, let portland main tank, replace unicorn with maryland and do all 7 battles without heal

[ivory sigil]

i dont think i cant survive without heal, cuz i did try bring my yoshino and her heal cant even help them much

but i can test let's see

[hollow gust]

what happen to your BBs in fleet 2

[hollow gust]

portland is like 2o levels lower then kurumi who is generally already tankier

[wind hazel]

no need, just keep this

[fleet marten]

I just noticed the Dive Bomber in the Shop, so like its stats, its worse than the helldiver on paper but a faster Suisei? so it means its beneficial to terms like Timing Airstrikes? like the Suisei Kai?

[wind hazel]

pointless making one fleet do all the battle, no good reason

[wind hazel]

yeah it's good for 4striking with yk2

[fleet marten]

Oh, and for that use only?

[ember patrol]

What UR should I be using the bulins on? I also have 57595 of the cores to get more, will also have a 5th one from the event. Though I do not have the two newest URs yet. Luck been kinda bad lol

[wind hazel]

so far yes

[hollow gust]

you have more then enough cores to max everyone, although i suggest you shouldnt touch ulrich and shima; no need for raffey honestly

[stark quiver]

not everyone can four strike yk2

[wind hazel]

well, are you gonna get lexii?

[ember patrol]

150 pulls still not come home but yes I do plan to get her

[wind hazel]

then fritz, lexii, yk2, i'd stop then and wait for laffey2

[hot turret]

So I'm guessing Essex Retrofit is better than Lexington II? At least because rn I can't limit break her at all and Essex is now a 5 star UR so I dunno

[wind hazel]

you can delay yk2 too and see if you can get 1 more dupe before investing more bulin

[hollow gust]

unzen pretty useful too

[hollow gust]

[wind hazel]

actually you should delay yk2, since we don't have any boss that require her

[fleet marten]

Also curious, what is like you know, the RLD count needed to make Lexington 2 sync well with the USS Light Fleet? Or it can be viable on any RLD Count?

[stark quiver]

she can sync fine with yk2 at any reload
what she cannot do is 4 strike on any reload
also just make sure they also somewhat sync to kearsarge

[hot turret]

I mean, I don't think using a 3 star Lex II is really that good when I can use my brand new UR Essex.

[hollow gust]

i didnt read part 2

[wind hazel]

i mean it should be obvious, a mlb UR is better than 0LB UR...

[eager mulch]

mori

[wind hazel]

amagichan

[eager mulch]

[ember patrol]

Just want to make sure, so Fritz and Lexington II when I get her? Then continue saving the cores?

[eager mulch]

i don’t know

[wind hazel]

then laffey2, then ask again by then

[ember patrol]

alright thanks for the help! I've had those four bulins for far too long lol

[eager mulch]

[viscid swift]

Oh hey they're adding w14 hard mode

[wind hazel]

The battle is coming, and please prepare the commander for battle! ( `・ω・')ゞ

[viscid swift]

Next week apparently, CN already posted an announcement

[soft raft]

Oh boy lmao

[hollow gust]

Fucking finally

[stark quiver]

this shit gonna be easy af

[ocean terrace]

oh yeah totally easy haha

[stark quiver]

@viscid swift do you have any fleet ideas in mine

[verbal plinth]

we dont even know the requirements yet

[hollow gust]

Just use your w14 fleet with upgrades , ships are op as fuck

[stark quiver]

does it matter lol

[verbal plinth]

bring back BC

[stark quiver]

gonna be overkill either way

[viscid swift]

Well we don't know the hull type restrictions

[ember patrol]

wow that's a decent timing, just finished w13 hard lol

[stark quiver]

Ima do the big assumption

[viscid swift]

Which is....

[rapid shard]

Any other announcements so far on CN side? Wondering when they gonna do gear lab update

[verbal plinth]

not yet

[viscid swift]

Not so far

[stark quiver]

bb req, cv/cvl, ca , dd
bb, cvl, cl ,dd

[whole crypt]

wait next maint is this week correct? alongside second week skins

[wind hazel]

tempesta requirement

[viscid swift]

Yes

[stark quiver]

good idea, spice up gameplay

[hollow gust]

At least add a Bc

[whole crypt]

AE req

[stark quiver]

bb/bc then

[whole crypt]

or AR

[stark quiver]

[rapid shard]

For coining DRs, only need to get them to dev30 to convert prints right? No need for FS5? Coining drake for protocore right now

[viscid swift]

Yes

[stark quiver]

14h comes out in 4 days?

[whole crypt]

more like 3+

[rapid shard]

Also from coredata shop, ive bought all the standard stuff+Indep. How many Fumos should I look at grabbing?

[whole crypt]

0

[stark quiver]

no news on 16?

[whole crypt]

no there was just a post on weibo about 14H

[stark quiver]

smh

[ivory sigil]

help

i can only choose 1 to done 1st:
"retrofit Portland"? or unlock "coining BPs" for Saint Louis?

-7 Purple retrofit CL 🟪 + 2 Golden retrofit CL 🟨 + some coin
vs
-10 Purple retrofit CL 🟪 + 5 Golden retrofit CL 🟨 + 20k Coin + 5 cube

only purple retrofit item missing, the items remaining are full ready, need to farm in Hardmode for several days
-note: i wont using portland in near future,
-# (I already had DAL fleet/Sandy/Helena for vanguard
nor later future when i got Guam/Laffey2 unless 2nd/3rd fleet needed

[rapid shard]

Your actively using portland so would make more sense to finish her. Just keep farming Hard -2 worlds and you'll get the 10 need for St Louis in a few days

[ivory sigil]

i dont really, i mean
let's assume i had 0 purple retrofit item, and 1 day give 2 Purple

within 5 days i can get 10 Purple to dev SaintLouis start
or retrofit Portland for no reason and then skip 5 days of Free BPs coin-up

[rapid shard]

Then doesnt really matter too much which one you pick then. Either way the retro pieces are easy to get so at most it's gonna hold you back by a 3-4 days. You can combine blue pieces into purple also

[whole crypt]

5 days of free prints is basically nothing across years to come and you could just pay some coins in if you want it faster

[ivory sigil]

ah ok then

[rain bobcat]

I would also consider doing roon before louis

[whole crypt]

that said if Portland is still surviving fine then go ahead and wrap up Saint Louis first

[wind hazel]

truth to be told you dont even need your portland...

[whole crypt]

just know what there will be a lot of cruiser print use coming ahead anyway between dev and other useful retrofits

[hollow gust]

You had Tohka and Kurumi , your two tanks are right there

[whole crypt]

there's basically no way to rush either

[whole crypt]

Saint Louis is the usual pick because it coincides with starter ship use

Roon tends to be stuck behind actually getting enough KMS vanguards, and then actually using them

[ivory sigil]

-# okay okay so i get it, let's me balance it then, will eventually get both after 2 weeks+ or so

[whole crypt]

at the end of the day neither are consequential

[rapid shard]

Does anyone have that graphic showing what dev levels are needed for each star? DR specifically

[ocean terrace]

meh I used Z23 and Prinz Eugen, though Prinz isn't recommended, but at least you get her for free

[whole crypt]

it's always 10/20/30, do you mean the prints needed?

[rapid shard]

Yeah the prints

[ivory sigil]

Husky play exact like what Meta had intended, well-played

[wind hazel]

/devbp

[odd root]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/460648604974055424/885529968455598170/unknown.png

[whole crypt]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Shipyard#Blueprints

[rapid shard]

Would Dev20 meck be not absolute pain to grind up to 120?

[ocean terrace]

nah Prinz Eugen still isn't a good investment for new players

[whole crypt]

not everyone starts with Z23, and very often you don't have enough KMS vanguards to unlock Roon when you first get research

[ocean terrace]

mmm idk, I have Roon already

[wind hazel]

just carry with other 5 ships

[whole crypt]

like you can do it, but it's just less straightforward than starting with Saint Louis

I'm fairly sure I got meck to 125/200 before she was d15

you just level her with more competent ships around

[ocean terrace]

guess I have the advantage of good vanguard ships from DAL so getting a vanguard research ship asap wasn't necessary for me

[hollow gust]

holy fuck 4 10hr coobs in a row

[rapid shard]

Ive got about 270 bps for her but gonna go ahead and build her and level her and haven't bothered leveling a non dev30 ship yet so curious on how painful it can be

[wind hazel]

doesnt feel any different really

it was more painful on release because she had dumb hp bug lol

it's fixed now so it won't be anything different than the rest of exp farming

[rapid shard]

Thats probably what im remembering lol seen some people saying it was a pain in the ass leveling her

[wind hazel]

💀 yes she kinda died in one of my fight lmao

[whole crypt]

I've lost touch of how difficult it is to level new ships

[stark quiver]

eho

[wind hazel]

meck

[stark quiver]

she never died for me

[wind hazel]

cause you didn't raise her when she had hp bug

[whole crypt]

when your babysitters are all 120/125 and xf

but yeh I'm never bumping ships past 110 again with XP packs

[ivory sigil]

-# oh no it is getting christmas and i still here thinking about leveling my portland and DAL ship
-# 2 weeks later i would had saint louis but also happynewyear

[rapid shard]

I only xp pack to about 80ish then throw them into the grind and watch them finish the mob fights with like 2hp lol

[whole crypt]

this was YKM and I was on the fence with how quickly I wanted her RLD tech

but I'm stuck using her anyway for affinity skill leveling so spending the around 900 XP packs was basically a wash

[rapid shard]

Fair enough. I do need to start figuring out how to rig mvp for vanguard because they take way longer than mainfleet ships

[whole crypt]

the answer is don't

it's too much trouble unless you just happen to be using a very good vanguard

[stark quiver]

i reccommend just farming normally where youre at

[rapid shard]

I just run 12-1 till they hit around 110-115 then go to 13-4 to finish them out. Just trying to speed up vanguard leveling a bit lol

[stark quiver]

13-4 doesnt that mean sacking a slot for a aa carry

[rapid shard]

Eh kinda. Ive been just slotting in a healer im leveling or throw best gear i have on them. Im always leveling 1BB/2CV mainfleet so wyverns and flaps help a ton

[stark quiver]

wasting xp
oh a healer youre leveling

[rapid shard]

Yeah and just got Cow and Aquila MLB so gonna be in 13-4 for a bit. Might give 14-4 a shot to try and get New Orleans

[cobalt robin]

is upgrading blue aug into purple cheaper than crafting it?

[stark quiver]

you will die an evil death in 14-4

[rapid shard]

Eh probably lol cant hurt to give it a shot now that its almost to safe level. ill just harrass Ayaya to give me his 14-4 leveling secrets

[wind hazel]

just get NO from 14-4H later

[stark quiver]

its called having high end gears, close to max tech, good cats, many +13s

[wind hazel]

grinding 14-4 is just terrible

[slow fox]

-# Guys why is 14-3H req DDG DDG DDG, DDG DDG DDG

[rapid shard]

I still need to stop being lazy af and clear W13H first. I just auto 12H

[stark quiver]

i grinded 14-4 for new orleans

[wind hazel]

[clear harbor]

What is DDG?

[slow fox]

They're the missile destroyers that China gets

[onyx flame]

there isnt even enuf to make a full fleet

[ocean terrace]

he was joking btw

[stark quiver]

ez wins

[heavy zealot]

Is the tier list not reliable ?

[whole crypt]

yes it is not

[heavy zealot]

About the shipyard stuff, do i get cheshire or anyone from pr1

[wind hazel]

have you unlocked anyone yet? can you start anchorage?

[stark quiver]

bro i forgot to put lex as flag

[ivory sigil]

I was almost going to buy all DDG exist in the shop ......... until i read your

[stark quiver]

what two carriers does the most damage in a campaign boss fight

[ocean terrace]

I don't think you need to worry about W14 hard for a while anyway

[stark quiver]

i have baked up these fleets for 14h, it may be bit overkill
but who knows maybe ship reqs ruin everything

[hollow gust]

Eww sashi

[stark quiver]

i mean
she has no milage right now
unless i wanna flex raff skin

[mint fable]

How good is D Porter as DPS and as a support?

[stark quiver]

bad dps
good support in certain situations

[mint fable]

What situation to be specific?

[cobalt robin]

plane content, specifically uss fleet

[stark quiver]

if she was used in a eagle union backline only bossing fleet

[mint fable]

Thanks

[trail dagger]

[stark quiver]

its meant for lethal 3 star 14-4h

i forgot no subs in hm

[rigid onyx]

im a fan of going to the biggest x-1 (12-1,13-1,14-1) etc if you're cog gated

or even 15-1 double vanguard once no main fleet

[whole crypt]

and then none of it works because the slot reqs are dead

just wait for it lol

you're practically just running ch14 again but harder

[tight yarrow]

sword or hammer for willy?

[whole crypt]

I'm under the impression of hammer

we legally do not know her barrage scales on TRP but you're not going be using a damage gun on her

[tight yarrow]

tks, if thing goes wrong i held you accountable for the 5k coins i spend

[cobalt robin]

legally

[whole crypt]

it's just whispers I heard in the wind

[crimson glacier]

drop me your hottest yorktown meta fleets

[shadow yarrow]

How does willie d compare to other ur dds
dps and buffwise

[whole crypt]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uU-t3CrFFpKFrheOUHSNHysDfb86P11OztobBlAWWK8/edit?usp=sharing

as far as I can tell short of kursk bug, comps are in the range of 95+% oneshots

[whole crypt]

self DPS is unimpressive for a rainbow
very strong fleet buff for bossing if USS, still good but less impressive if not

also lacking durability compared to her other USS rainbow DD counterparts

[crimson glacier]

using collab units huh

[whole crypt]

summons are king apparently

[crimson glacier]

i guess ill just stick with the old HE team lol

[whole crypt]

why HE YKM is med

[crimson glacier]

coz i dont give a shit and it gives me 75 points anyway

[whole crypt]

fair

or just throw bismecklion at it with radar scan

[crimson glacier]

nah im the leader of the helena hater club

[whole crypt]

I never used Kursk but I didn't try Momo either, so far oneshot rates for both BB and soynak have been in the high 90s but it's not guaranteed

I may or may not be falling short by the vanguard oath department

[crimson glacier]

do they even matter

[whole crypt]

maybe, may be not, given the margins I've been falling short by

it'll probably be a higher oneshot rate by a non-significant amount

[stark quiver]

What’s your one shot % at

[rain bobcat]

even if no USS there's still a permanent 5% dmg taken debuff on enemy

[whole crypt]

didn't keep strict track but feels around 95+%

[whole crypt]

"still good but less impressive"

Z52 and Traf already offer similar with better DPS and durability if it's not USS

[stark quiver]

im at a solid 10% one shot rate

[whole crypt]

tech harder

[stark quiver]

+13 issue

[strange sphinx]

man How good is traf? I missed her banner

[whole crypt]

one of the strongest bossing vanguards right now support wise

[strange sphinx]

[hollow gust]

Traf isn't even the most busted one from that event

[whole crypt]

she'll come back and/or we'll get something better so whatever

you're guaranteed to get her if you stick for the rerun anyway

[strange sphinx]

well if I missed traf, I also missed lion and her gun

[ocean terrace]

that event sounds lovely to rerun soon aha if only

[whole crypt]

if you missed Lion just do Kear/YkII/LexII aurora for light and Bis/Meck/something for medium/heavy I guess

[strange sphinx]

yeah Heavy fleet is what I lacking

Bis is nowhere to be found, Meck is still development

[whole crypt]

CVs then

[hollow gust]

Amagi Hakuhou Implacable

[verbal plinth]

just use cvs /s stole it from a cn video i saw lol

was using manual so its a meme

[silent bluff]

Should I replace my unicorn with cowpens?

[verbal plinth]

no

[whole crypt]

yes if Unicorn is maxed and you just need to level something else

otherwise Unicorn is basically the primary healer for the whole game

[south sequoia]

what can i use to replace meck

for bislion

[edgy carbon]

for the shipyard lab. if one of the tasks is get EXP for X category of ships, but your ship is maxed, does it still contribute exp?

[ivory sigil]

i just waste half 15min asking about and then they just gift me 6 directly via dailylogin

[wind hazel]

for what

[ivory sigil]

i need meck where is meck? last week there were 3 meck in a row and now it is just loliandbb

[south sequoia]

yorkmet fight

[wind hazel]

try fritz or soyuz

[south sequoia]

alrighty

[ivory sigil]

compare picking directly a girl vs picking GrandDonation it only give RNG right?

[rain bobcat]

pls don't take irrelevant PRs if ur broke btw

[wind hazel]

sonaru is more consistent than bb for me

[south sequoia]

is momo belia fine to use without aug I skipped the last 2 new collabs and just got the ships

outside BRS

[smoky citrus]

so I have shinana and Musa. Both at 4 stars, which should I give the buil I just got two? I want to max the one thats going to be doing the most damage

[ocean terrace]

personally I do 1.5k or 3k G/Q if there isn't a good face PR/DR ship

[ivory sigil]

i picked felix shoul just because i wonder between her and GrandDonation 4h

[wind hazel]

it should be fine

[rapid shard]

Thats why i said it doesnt really matter lol purple and blue pieces come in very quickly and you'll soon have a ton

[south sequoia]

who is grand donation even supposed to be??

[wind hazel]

the important fleet buff and summons are not affected, just lose a tiny bit of personal dmg ish

[ocean terrace]

grant donation* probably a typo

[rain bobcat]

0.5h> DR face > any type of rigging> grant 4h >whatever is fastest, PR if it's fastest

[ivory sigil]

GrannyDonation

[south sequoia]

oh research types I thought it was just another gimmick of someone calling their waifus by their own nicknames

[clear harbor]

Grant Donation doesn't guarantee ship blueprints.

[ivory sigil]

yeah that's why i pick felix despite i dont prior her

[ivory sigil]

yeah i did follow this

If I meet multiple face, here is my prior:

Meck > Gouden > Flandre > any DR > recommended PR guide > same as above

[wind hazel]

why do you want ship bps, you should go gear focus tbh

literally zero Q riggings in your queue lol

[shadow yarrow]

So where does she fit overall

[rain bobcat]

[clear harbor]

Honestly, I misunderstood research priorities and chose PR D and even G over Q until more recently. : /

[rain bobcat]

you don't need to waste money on any DR that's NOT series 7/8 and you should skip any PR not flandre

[ocean terrace]

yeah just do Gs and Qs lol, other than good face research

[wind hazel]

more like just go all Q unless you cannot

[rain bobcat]

if you like flandre, just do this series 8 focus: 0.5h> DR face > any type of rigging> grant 4h > flandre > whatever is fastest, PR if it's fastest

don't take non series 8 or 7 unless you are already in the whatever is fastest, PR if it's fastest category

[wind hazel]

you guys are literally 1/3 or 1/4 of the faction tech needed to develop the ships from series8. what you gonna do with the blueprints, stare at them?

[ivory sigil]

Yeah i did it yesterday there were like 4 research of Rigging 🥲 and they drop very funny thing,

but hey on this morning i did get another meck bps gun after the 00:30 rigging one

[ocean terrace]

so you're telling me I don't do Meck and Gouden???

[rain bobcat]

eitherway even if you like flandre... she's coinable mid january so there's virtually no point even picking her at all

[rain bobcat]

you do

[wind hazel]

can you even develop them, or grind their exp?

[ocean terrace]

no but it'll take months to get enough anyway, by which point I should have tech for them

[rain bobcat]

there's no way they won't be able to dev them after 6 months

and anyway doing DR face>rigging>g4 is will still net you 1 gun every 3 months max

[wind hazel]

so take Q. if no Q then take their D researches

[ivory sigil]

-# I hope they drop more UR with KMS tech lol

[wind hazel]

you will have enough bps of them after 6 months with this approach, i guarantee you. and enough meck gun

[ocean terrace]

mmm alright I'll trust you on that

[stark quiver]

inb4

[cloud forge]

This level 95 submarine daily raid is so frustrating

[rain bobcat]

tbf I did 0.5>meck>rigg>g4>gouden>fastest

[cloud forge]

Last boss just one shots me regardless if I'm surfaced or not

[south sequoia]

have you gotten any of the pirate ships during october?

[cloud forge]

Yeah

[stark quiver]

you dont need tempesta

and i wouldnt go out of my way to raise one

[south sequoia]

I recommend using them for clearing ASSUMING you have the resources to spare, otherwise you just gotta keep in trying

its a very expensive lazy solution

not optimal

but eh its there

[cloud forge]

I have the blue hair pirate ship leveled up

[south ridge]

Is there any recommendations of which gear to Create on gear lab?

[cloud forge]

I just... The last boss makes no sense. I can't see what she's doing and she just throws something and I instantly lose all 3 subs

[wind hazel]

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/gear-lab

[south sequoia]

Mary celeste? she does fine enough

[wind hazel]

mary can solo it, like royal fortune

tested it before on someone's request back then

[verbal plinth]

video is dead

[wind hazel]

nvm video gone, just trust my word 😂

context, need two gold gun

[cloud forge]

I love and hate how trivial that made it lmao

Thanks for the tip

[wind hazel]

literally x10 dps

[south sequoia]

its like cheating, you're kind of playing a vanguard into that stage

lol

[cloud forge]

She just melted everything for free

[south sequoia]

sadly thats as usable the pirates can get

do people even use any of the sailing frigates

like any of the new ones

[wind hazel]

lyme was really good for beginners because of how tanky she is, that's about it

her design kinda 🔥 too

[cloud forge]

Mary is the only cool tempesta design to me

But I ain't big on tentacles and her skin is so good

[shadow yarrow]

What if put tracto and another fp aux on porter
Since she gets the aux boost
how much fp can i boost her to

[wind hazel]

30%

[rain bobcat]

losing 1000 hp on a DD with dmg red that activates after a while instead of instantly is a pretty bad idea

[ivory sigil]

i press build today and got 4 hours whom does that equal to?

[hollow gust]

A peice of shit common BB

[cobalt robin]

could be a lot ships

[hollow gust]

No for 4 hours it's the two common eagle BBs and ark

[ocean terrace]

congrats you got Lion

[cobalt robin]

ah exactly 4 hours

[hollow gust]

Those two are so fucking common I memorized it

[cobalt robin]

lexi 2 is 4:25h iirc

[ocean terrace]

was that for all lexi-class and essex-class

[ivory sigil]

i dont remember but it is not exact 4

should i drill

[cobalt robin]

both i think

[faint cloud]

drills should always be above your cubes so anyway

[hollow gust]

1:15 and 1:30 are also prices of shit

[wind hazel]

nah, keep the suspense. come back and tell us 4hours from now :)

[ivory sigil]

I WONT TELL IF THEY ARE N RARITY THO

[cobalt robin]

[ocean terrace]

lmao don't keep your hopes up, expect something shit
then you might get a nice surprise

[hollow gust]

Normal Lexington are 3:40 , Essex is around 4+ hours

[cobalt robin]

surely he got guam

[onyx flame]

computer 500 kent

[rain bobcat]

anyway as always I say that knowing timer of what you want doesn't help in anyway unless there's only that specific ship with that timer

like for lexi im pretty sure half the essex classes have 4:25

[hollow gust]

They are all 4:25

[rain bobcat]

even worse

[hollow gust]

Game doesn't differentiate between long and short hulled

[verbal plinth]

play build roullete get 10 4:25 and only confirm them after event

[warm cliff]

should i prioritize getting the ur voucher

[rain bobcat]

hey york should be longer because she got delayed irl

[hollow gust]

Not how that works in AL

[hollow gust]

Not yet , you get hundreds for free

[onyx flame]

if you been doing your daily sp + daily challenge you get liek 400? vouchers so you can buy it last

[cobalt robin]

my friend started al on friday, should he pull for lexi or save for guam

[warm cliff]

can i even handle the sp with this

[ivory sigil]

😂 Do you mean i not press reveal after they done build 4 hours and keep continue building other

and repeat, keeping the 4 hours if they appear... open if they are under
and then till the end of event open them (4h) all at once ?

[verbal plinth]

idk if you can do that be funny to do

[tulip tinsel]

uh don't use non mlb lex2

[warm cliff]

alright

now my only problem is that i can't play it since they're not level 110

how do i level up them faster

[wind hazel]

grind more d3

[shadow yarrow]

I mean like how much can i boost her gun damage with fp aux and 30% aux boost

Her dps is mid but how is divided between gun and torp

[wind hazel]

i dont have the numbers, but it's very unlikely to be anything useful

[rain bobcat]

99% of her dps is not from her gun itself

[wind hazel]

better off giving her proper toolkit+good hp aux

[rain bobcat]

she is a fully barrage and AA focus output ship

[shadow yarrow]

What does her barrage scale on

[rain bobcat]

I both don't know literally and legally cannot do anything to know

reason is pin

[wind hazel]

you can check it lol it's safe https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/ships/id/12

[woven star]

I think some information about her skills you can get from ALDB

[wind hazel]

actually is it safe

[vernal thunder]

Are the hvars drops from competition?

I’ve done loads of runs without seeing any D3

[wind hazel]

d3 sp drop them

[onyx flame]

it only drops from siren and boss if it follows parallel

[inland shoal]

I mean the info is also in the pinned translation

[wind hazel]

😠 sir! how did you acquire the info!

god this is such a shit rule 😭

[woven star]

But what the problem if we talk about same information like skills description which already on wiki..

[whole crypt]

she currently fits best in a USS based boss fleet
which meta speaking only has the iteration of Kearsarge/Yorktown II/Lexington II anti-light
if you're strapped for resources WDP is fairly low priority

[vernal thunder]

Guess I’ll try being more lucky

[woven star]

Fanny thing that she's not so good for USS fleet. She don't have AA debuff and u need to use Kear for that. In this case Traf will be better

[onyx flame]

huh?kear doesnt have a aa debuff

[woven star]

Ah? My bad...

[whole crypt]

Yorktown II carries debuff
if you want more bring Laffey II, who also doubles with high AA alongside WDP to keep concealment

you also completely forgot Lexington II also wants an AA debuffer

[woven star]

This part I remember. I just forgot who deal AA debuff in Kear-York2 fleet

[crimson glacier]

does william want rudder or the standard hp maxxxing

[whole crypt]

ask the resident gpt

[woven star]

My position about WdP that she's good but mostly she's buffer. She something like weaker version Plym and SanD at one slot. If u found some place where you want increase Plym flag buff you'll bring WdP. If somehow you want increase SanD buff or having weaker version you can use WdP

[whole crypt]

save Plymouth for a BB fleet I guess

she amps Meck or Lion better

sandy doesn't belong in a boss fleet anyway

[woven star]

I mean if you need AA ship for boss but also have some flag buff so you use WdP plus Plym

[whole crypt]

you don't need an AA ship for boss, you want one to help with concealment but the ship itself needs to do more than AA

[woven star]

Only one question for me in these fleets...WdP or Traff

[whole crypt]

save Traf for Lion, if you need hit rate take Aurora, this is light anyway

[woven star]

For now. Until we get another boss mechanic with AA

[whole crypt]

Taihou META didn't need serious AA, it just needed to be not-shit AA

Z52 and/or Trafalgar covers that more than enough

[verbal plinth]

thoughts?

[whole crypt]

I see CN homework but why is there a La-9

[verbal plinth]

no idea im just bored lol looking around

keep seeing that the potter skin messes with fire rate

[woven star]

I will use another augment on z52 but maybe it's wrong

[rigid onyx]

i thought willy d was a 113mm or 76mm ship

[verbal plinth]

could be i just asked this all might be awful

[whole crypt]

it looks like a poorly copied CN homework

[woven star]

Do we have 2 phoenixes? I don't have any one..

[verbal plinth]

yeah

[hardy whale]

i got a Shima dupe and UR Bulin should I MLB or save Bulin for Lexi2 MLB

[hardy whale]

Shima is basically maxed out other than MLB

[onyx flame]

shouldnt be investing bulins into perma ur

[warm cliff]

what should i prioritize getting from the current event shop

[shell willow]

the 2nd pinned message has shop priority

[warm cliff]

oh thanks

[gilded carbon]

Should i build s second Tenrai? I have all parts aside from a few farmable coins

[ember patrol]

so since I was told to use my bulins on Fritz and Lexii where would I use Fritz Rumey and Lexington II? (I've completed ch15, just need to 3 star it)

just got her after 161 pulls, finally

[shadow yarrow]

Im at a crossroad
Is the meck gun or la-9 more important
I just got the meck gun but i have two la-9

[white agate]

i don't remember , but i think the reasonable amount of La-9 to have was 2-3?

[hallow mountain]

imo Lexii

[ember patrol]

no I was told to mlb Lexii and Fritz i'm just asking where I would actually use them

i have more than enough for both

[hallow mountain]

Oh, then W15? 3 star it

I heard Lexii is good for that

[ember patrol]

no I'm asking where I would use Fritz and Lexii, since i've already completed ch15, I have a fleet already for it I just haven't gotten around to 3 starring it yet

[wind hazel]

fritz goes to support fleet, lexii can go boss. or don't need to use her. what did you use for w15?

[ember patrol]

1. I'll send what worked for me in w15. 2. I'm asking like what armour bosses the two would fight in, not for ch15, cuz I know i need to work on making fleets for all three types of armour, soz for the confusion.

think some gear is missing, been a while since I first completed ch15

[onyx flame]

since your working on season 8 alr might as well finish it by getting the last 2 meck guns

[wind hazel]

keep using this, indep has augment now which should make it even easier. add fritz to support fleet. lexii is antilight specialist, her eagle team leaning towards Light only, fritz can do both light med with soyuz nakhimov

[ember patrol]

yea Amagi's 2nd plane is wrong, pretty sure it's a Tenrai

you mean Independance? I don't remember her getting an augment?

[wind hazel]

she has one now

[ember patrol]

huh?

[wind hazel]

and give amagi either tenrai breguet wyvern, or flapjack tenrai wyvern

[ember patrol]

ok then

wait who does Fritz replace in the support fleet then?

[wind hazel]

indom

[gilded carbon]

How many Tenrai should i work for

[ember patrol]

i was told to just get 2

[wind hazel]

2 is good amount

[gilded carbon]

2? Good, second is inbound then. Thanks

Same Fleet too?

[wind hazel]

what

[onyx flame]

prob asking if it used in the same fleet

answer is depends on timing

[wind hazel]

well there's zero context lol

if using for bossing, yes both tenrai will be in the same fleet

single target bossing

[gilded carbon]

Sorry, yes. I assumed that their effect may not Stack. But i will make it depends on Timing.

[rapid shard]

Got first hvar finally at 57k. Is that about average or is RNG just treating me worse than the scamcat

[gilded carbon]

I should have wrote more context, my bad

[wind hazel]

the timing isn't relevant. if your ships can use tenrai, then put tenrai

you adjust the timing via the torpedo bomber, not on the DB

[onyx flame]

tbf the effect also doesnt matter since armor break on buffs bb shell

[ember patrol]

oh that's going to be expensive, an SR augment and getting a UR to mlb lol.

[gilded carbon]

Noted.

[icy creek]

got mine at 35k

[desert epoch]

Apparently you got a mob fleet and a boss fleet?

[rigid onyx]

You should mlb fritz & get indepkai augment nonetheless because they are both really strong, but to be honest they wouldn't help with a 3* all that much

[ember patrol]

not even going to try 3 starring until I get all of ch15 to safe

which don't think I have done yet

[rigid onyx]

considering that improving the boss fleet by augmenting indepkai doesnt help with out of ammo mob fights at all, and support fleet is helpful but indom --> fritz is like a 40% improvement on one ship for a mechanic that isn't even half of your aa

[desert epoch]

Who

[rigid onyx]

yeah it is a lot easier to 3* if it's on safe. if you care about testing ships for 15-4 (almost nobody does) you have to leave it on lethal though

[ember patrol]

don't understand the game well enough to test ships lol. Kind of regretting leaving the guild server I was originally in, but that place became uncomfortable, but I can ask here so that's not an issue anymore

so when did Indep get an Augment? I don't remember seeing that, I feel a bit dumb I like Independance I should have noticed unless someone I like more got an augment at the same time

[ocean terrace]

#trophy-room

[rigid onyx]

like a month ago?

i think early nov

[knotty jolt]

personally wouldn't trust most stuff outside the official server for game related help

[desert epoch]

I mean literally who, as in is she good or something?

[ember patrol]

uh it was a discord server for a guild I found here sometime last year

was able to finish ch15 but after that I left so haven't had proper game help in months

[rigid onyx]

She's okay but it really seems like you should be reading new players' guides if you're asking this type of thing

[knotty jolt]

You got lucky then lol, it's a coinflip if the help they provide is actually good or not

[bright tusk]

What is the EX boss' armor type?

[desert epoch]

There’s one?

[onyx flame]

im at 18/25 at 54k points so

[knotty jolt]

light iirc

[rigid onyx]

ihttps://suchiguma.github.io/guides/progression-guide/

i think this server shills this one haven't read it though so idk if its good

[ocean terrace]

depends if you trust cheeky

[knotty jolt]

I trust them

[ocean terrace]

same

[rigid onyx]

the information is probably fine but prioritization of information is huge for a new player guide

[ocean terrace]

yeah a lot of details and text in his

[rigid onyx]

https://azurlaneecgc.com/newbie_tips/

[ember patrol]

OH! Indep got it at the same time as one of the submarines I use, no wonder I forgot, it was just two getting an augment that time lol

[rapid shard]

Sounds like I'm bout average then sadly

[desert epoch]

Welp I kinda am looking for someone to build me fleets
Anyone can help me with that?

[knotty jolt]

I'm at 26 prints obtained and at 55k points

[knotty jolt]

Create a thread and post your dock in there

[gray idol]

Are both endings achievable in this Note through the firmament event? You know...the critical decision thing

[rigid onyx]

(57e3-15e3)/180 points = ~230 runs

25 prints in 230 runs is about average

probably above?

[desert epoch]

Weeeeeeeeeee fleet

[white agate]

archive exists

go there and you can see both ending, tho i think you can from the event story too

[knotty jolt]

I'm pretty sure i don't have that many runs. I've used nearly 80 HELPs

[gray idol]

Gotcha

[rigid onyx]

during yorkii rerun the estimated drop rates were like 8% to 14% so ~1/12 to ~1/7

just assume 1/10 to be honest

this event may be higher or lower though and nobody (i think) is doing data collection

[rapid shard]

So im guessing for the 5 I'm trying to get i should expect to get around 250k milestone?

[rigid onyx]

uhh more

[whole crypt]

less

but statistics

[rigid onyx]

i think strictly linearly interpolating if you subtract the non d3/sp points you get less but idr how many points missions gave

[whole crypt]

in the ballpark of 20-40k

at 0.14 you need around 160k points worth of D3s

[rapid shard]

Thats for 5 right?

[whole crypt]

yes

[rapid shard]

Still hell but not as bad lol

[whole crypt]

the only reason SP is still relevant in this scenario is if it's low cost and D3 isn't, because points/oil and total point income is irrelevant if you're going to shoot past the shop max

[rapid shard]

I low cost SP daily cause it does drop the hvars as well

What is average points needed to full clear shop?

[rigid onyx]

sp hvar drop rate seems to be higher
(source: vibes)

[whole crypt]

if your D3 is also low cost and comes to same or lower oil/fight you can skip SP since SP has more fights

[rapid shard]

D3 is around 425 for x3 and SP is like 250ish. Worth to skip SP then?

[rigid onyx]

i wouldnt

[whole crypt]

if you feel SP drops better you can stick to it, not a huge difference overall anyway

[rigid onyx]

if you assume that elites and boss in sp or d3 have the same hvar drop it would be better to skip though

425 for x3 seems quite high

[onyx flame]

its not maximum lost cost with 0lb

[rigid onyx]

you should try to see if you can do Ranger Downes

[wind hazel]

just go lower with SP

[whole crypt]

I'm not low costing for obvious reasons

let me know if you want me to try a Uni/Bulin run

[onyx flame]

im just gonna live with my 450 cost for 3x run

[whole crypt]

I'm at 801/3 runs

[rapid shard]

Im leveling a 0lb cassin downs ranger right now to see if they can clear D3. Haven't built a proper low cost team yet. Been alternating with elite CVL and elite DDs