gameplay-help

[ocean terrace]

wait that's tempting

enough gems for 3 skins too

[rain bobcat]

its really nice if you need the bulin

[soft raft]

Could be a desync(?)
Try force closing and relaunching the game

[ocean terrace]

who doesn't

[stark quiver]

I have 60k spec core

[rain bobcat]

I have 80k

[dawn zealot]

I'm also thinking about getting this after buying lucky bags

[ocean terrace]

nevermind he doesn't

[rain bobcat]

[cobalt robin]

I'll gladly take that burden of your shoulders alpa

[viscid swift]

100k

[stark quiver]

But at the same time I’m out of 2x gems other than the 80 dollar pack

[rain bobcat]

wb me

I ran out a month after reset lol

[stark quiver]

Did you start buying non 2x

[viscid swift]

actually 112k

[heavy zealot]

Hmmmm, what do i go for in gear labs ? I was thinking either something for bb or cv

[cobalt robin]

Can I have the 12k

[stray crane]

who should i do next ?

[rain bobcat]

i need to buy bag once this event+1 more random pack

[cobalt robin]

Anchorage

[viscid swift]

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/gear-lab

[stark quiver]

We can gamble lucky together

[wind hazel]

[rain bobcat]

im buying next bag because 3 good l2d

[cobalt robin]

[tranquil vine]

a relaunch worked

[stark quiver]

Nice

[woven star]

someone have no life

[wind hazel]

yes, you

[rigid onyx]

whats the best xfleet brainrot atm? still musashi soy als?

whats the vanguard again? kron

[viscid swift]

Shima, Unzen

[rain bobcat]

kron yeah

[rigid onyx]

kk

[viscid swift]

though Porter probably replaces one of them now

[rain bobcat]

im doing guam because Im using kurumi lexi for 1:1

[rigid onyx]

porter s1 doesnt double stack if flagship is a uss ship right

[rain bobcat]

dont want kamikaze to kill lexi

[viscid swift]

correct

[rigid onyx]

has there ever been a skill that could double stack like that

[cobalt robin]

I broke the game

[soft raft]

No way

[rigid onyx]

does it repeat 5x

[verbal plinth]

did you do archive before

[viscid swift]

visual bug

[cobalt robin]

It says 1/5

I'll let you know if it does 5 sorties

[forest palm]

For Gouden, her signature, or the UR 203 SKC?

[viscid swift]

Hinden gun

[cobalt robin]

Nope, haven't touched it since July

[versed elk]

any ykm 1 shot fleets

[rain bobcat]

🦁

[rapid summit]

Lexington II worth investing in for W13/W15?

[viscid swift]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uU-t3CrFFpKFrheOUHSNHysDfb86P11OztobBlAWWK8/edit?tab=t.0

[versed elk]

thanks

[ivory sigil]

I dont think it take 10 mins
It is already 2 hours
I clear the B3 and still havent unlock

Do we need to 3 star all to unlock the D??

[verbal plinth]

no

[soft raft]

No

[ivory sigil]

why it is still locked for me

[ocean terrace]

2 hours??? you need to switch to hard mode

you don't even need to clear B3 lmao

[soft raft]

Go to B3 and look here

[viscid swift]

/hardmode

[odd root]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/460648604974055424/1322138175426269215/image0.png

[soft raft]

Ignore the blue circle, I stole that screenshot from someone elese

[viscid swift]

smh, smh

[soft raft]

Also forgot that's a bot command lol

[ivory sigil]

ah i was halucinating thought the SP is D

[ocean terrace]

make sure to clear SP once a day

[ivory sigil]

But how to unlock it

[ocean terrace]

clear D3

[ivory sigil]

oki brb after me 3star the A2
Again we only need to spam D3 for event pts right?

[versed elk]

looks like i'll have to raise a summoner thanks though

[viscid swift]

Momo works even at level 109 or so

[signal leaf]

can uh anyone tell me why Porter's dmg is so mid compared to say like Z52

[viscid swift]

because her damage is mid

[sweet delta]

Are they at the same level, limit break, gear, skill levels, etc?

[signal leaf]

Im just seein general consensus thats se mid compared to other UR dds

[signal leaf]

fair enough

[sweet delta]

She's worse Z52 in every way unless she's buffing some eagle main fleet

[fleet marten]

Good Morning, I have a question, How many Specialized Cores, including those at Shop that you can get per month?, Just curious because I might not get the full capacity of it per reset.

[viscid swift]

5k plus 3k from the medal shop that don't wount towards the cap so 8k

[woven star]

Interesting how WdP good against San Diego

Some of her skills looks similar

[signal leaf]

I guess its because z52 fires a barrage every time she gains a counter and Porter does a torpedo barrage every 5 seconds

[fleet marten]

Thanks, how about those of the URs you decided to retire?

[viscid swift]

no, they count toward the cap

[ivory pawn]

Count towards the 5k cap.

[soft raft]

I dont think that's why
or at least the main reason

[rain bobcat]

porter also fires a barrage every 2s lol that's definitely not the issue

[fleet marten]

Ahh, no wonder some say its alright to claim the Weekly rewards despite hitting the Cap, thanks for this again

[ivory pawn]

Yeah if you're playing actively you'll always hit the 5k cap. Hell I hit it earlier this week.

[ivory sigil]

-# It took me 1 whole month to get my 1st UR and the 1st thing i heard they're retire UR

[fleet marten]

I can see that

[wind hazel]

play long enough and you'll be just like him

[signal leaf]

I mean z52 has a higher fp and torp stat from what I remember but they both have the same buffs +15% yadda yadda, I guess it comes down to the barrages themselves

[tranquil vine]

isnt wdp supposed to be a support dd

...a ridiculously silly one but still one regardless?

[signal leaf]

I mean yeah she buffs shit but other ur dds like z52 also dont really buff themselves that much except for aa and stuff

[tranquil vine]

personally i think shes peak because we can finally kill our own ships in battle

[signal leaf]

lol funni i shot a torpedo at a ship containing the president

[tranquil vine]

we finally have a ship capable of friendly fire

[candid meteor]

whats the best way to get t1 aircarft parts? i guessing either boxes or campaign?

[ivory sigil]

she so silly imagine i dont get lexi2 with20rolls i might have depend on her

-# i would demand WdP to sit on my face if i wasnt able to MLB any UR within next 3months

[tranquil vine]

im building the shit out of her

gonna make the strongest wdp in the game

[signal leaf]

the mysterious reason why her dmg doesnt compare to other UR DDs is because shes silly

[tranquil vine]

shes running on gold ship mode

she isnt fighting seriously and thus is handicapped

[signal leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/gold-ship-uma-musume-dropkick-gif-1310520311152972568

[tranquil vine]

how long until someone makes a video of wdp obliterating a level 1 flagship with a torpedo

[ocean terrace]

state of gph channel

[ivory sigil]

-# hey it's not myfault i only make use of my 3-days-limit nitrofree
btw only lexi2 is useful in this banner right?

I havent get cowpen but i hope soon
but what about other girl like pasadena or cleveMeta

[ocean terrace]

pasadena and clevem are usual elite ships, nothing noteworthy
cowpen is a good secondary healer, similar to Aquila, might want her for W14/W15 but up to you

[wind hazel]

clevemeta is not elite

[ocean terrace]

mb, but she's just for fleet tech right?

[royal swift]

noob question, how do i get santa fe?

[wind hazel]

and she seem decent for campaign at least, usual event standard SR. useable, but nothing special

her aa seem pretty high

[wind hazel]

past event, wait for rerun

[royal swift]

hell nah

[soft raft]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Letters_from_Valley_Hospital

[royal swift]

[ocean terrace]

probably not worth investing into for someone with DAL vanguards I assume

[ivory sigil]

same as Hamman2? we getting the skin without the girl

[royal swift]

oh so that how u use the wiki

[wind hazel]

well, she doesn't take gold bulin to mlb, and eventually you will need to raise other ships as well since your DAL units gonna reach cap sooner or later

[royal swift]

[ivory pawn]

Hamman 2? Should've just entered the perma pool.

[wind hazel]

i think ham2 is archived

[ocean terrace]

oh right crystals, got it ty

[wind hazel]

the only painful thing to get are meta enhancement materials, you might or might not have them all

[ocean terrace]

I skipped Gibraltar for shop if that matters

[ivory pawn]

Not as bad as before since they're Hard Mode rewards now too.

[stark quiver]

Should I get a 4th tenrai to pro player 1:1 2 fleets

[south sequoia]

The concept of killing your flagship faster

[wind hazel]

you can put her in the backlog to raise in the future, she gives FP tech after all, something you will get around later

[ivory sigil]

my kotori is capped at 125 for 2 weeks alreaedy, Tohka and kurumi would be soon today as well

[icy creek]

Hello, since hvar is in WA is it worth to 1:1 fleet D3 ?

[wind hazel]

try and raise other ships when they are capped

[stark quiver]

If you wanna grind for hvars yes

[south sequoia]

Raise other ships, no reason 1:1 unless you have all the time in the world with so few oil in the tank

[wind hazel]

lazy swap, so i run this

[tranquil rock]

#game-news message what is this peak
how worth is HVARcat

[stark quiver]

Broke man’s setup

[ocean terrace]

farm HVARs from D3 instead, but yes WA has it too

[tranquil rock]

d3 doesnt give hvars

[south sequoia]

It does

[wind hazel]

it does...

[stark quiver]

It does
Rates are just low like all events

[ocean terrace]

[tranquil rock]

for me at least
it just gives regular cats

[wind hazel]

are you farming b3 or d3 lol

[stark quiver]

Say on god

[south sequoia]

[tranquil rock]

d3
b3 hardmode

[ocean terrace]

farm harder

[verbal plinth]

its rng

[wind hazel]

go click the gear blueprint drop, and see that hvar is listed there ~_~

[tranquil rock]

💔 🥀 🥀

[icy creek]

Well for me 1:1 was necessary since hvar was only from event and we get limited oil and time to get it but now with WA ....

[autumn egret]

What's Lexington II skillset?

[tranquil rock]

it tells you??? 💔 🥀 🥀 🥀 🥀

[south sequoia]

Check pins

[wind hazel]

it does yes

[tranquil rock]

💔 💔 💔

[south sequoia]

Luck issue

[stark quiver]

It’ll take months to years in wa

[tranquil rock]

lucky e not active ahhh drop rate

[wind hazel]

dont worry, CV fleet sucks anyway

[tranquil rock]

this is completely false

[soft raft]

Is the HVAR droprate bugged this time as well

[rain bobcat]

surely not

[tranquil rock]

surely yes

[verbal plinth]

how was it bugged

[rain bobcat]

i've gotten 1 so far in 10 runs

[wind hazel]

we've been only using 2 max for past months, maybe even year

[south sequoia]

The year where we had the most ur cvs is the year ur bbs are taking back their spot

[soft raft]

It had a higher drop raate during Yk2's intial run

[south sequoia]

And doesnt look like lexington is about to change that

I mean maybe

But who knows

Lets doompost momma again in 2 weeks

[icy creek]

For me right now it seems like 1 bp each 6 runs

[wind hazel]

that's decent

[tranquil rock]

UR BBs arent real
UR CVs are real

[soft raft]

Too bad we wont have a relevant light boss for a long while in order to properly test her anti-light

[ocean terrace]

I've had 1 in 15 runs so far...

[wind hazel]

1 in 6 is pretty good rate. previously it was around ~10%? drop rate

[rain bobcat]

lion is real

[verbal plinth]

both prob get the job done bbs and cvs

[tranquil rock]

cant you use the arbiter...

[soft raft]

Too weak

[tranquil rock]

hmmmm fair

[rain bobcat]

arbiter dies like swatting a fly lol

[proper violet]

Is lex 2 good? O.O

[soft raft]

Even Hard Arbiter is childs play for the average veteran so why even bother

[tranquil rock]

im still mid-late game

so im not up to that level yet

multiple URs mlb'ed though

[rain bobcat]

arbiters are just a side quest atm because opsi still hasn't gotten an update

[tranquil rock]

need to grind wyvern

and pancake

[proper violet]

How many wyverns should I have and drone? Also is lexington II good?

[verbal plinth]

yes shes good pull her its ur

[tranquil rock]

main URs of events are always good

[south sequoia]

3 is a good number to have of them, lexington II is naturally great as nature of being a ur ship, how great vs her colleagues though is not yet known

[tranquil rock]

i mean her skills seem pretty powerful

[proper violet]

Just pulled her in event pull, that was a surprise

[tranquil rock]

ive done like 50+ pulls and not gotten her yet sadly

i dunno the exact number

[wind hazel]

1-2 wyvern. what is drone

[proper violet]

Im around 50 60 too

The pancake I assume, flat blue drone?

[wind hazel]

flapjacks, 4-6

[proper violet]

Goddam

[tranquil rock]

those arent drones

[proper violet]

I have 1 wyv and 1 frisbee

[tranquil rock]

theyre actual manned fighters

its a real fighter btw

[gray sphinx]

I mean they’re fighter planes so usually you want an abundance of those

[wind hazel]

depending on where you are in campaign, you can delay them. or just get more eventually

[proper violet]

That is true

I'm at 13 atm

[rain bobcat]

it's a real plane

[wind hazel]

gold hellcats are servicable at 13

[proper violet]

That looks like some futurama shi

[wind hazel]

it's so ugly 😭

[proper violet]

Lmao yeah

[wind hazel]

tom cruise would have died in top gun if this was the fighter

[gray sphinx]

Flapjacks are very very ugly

[proper violet]

Built to skip on the water when crashing lmao

[gray sphinx]

Idk who decided to make that plane

[proper violet]

Not if, when it crashes

[ivory sigil]

man the moral of uni is nowhere full after speedrun to D3, but she is graduate lv120 now my fleet hp is jumping up and down

[ivory sigil]

i reached SP, but how to clear it
there is no star or requirement

does boss appear after clear all ?

[verbal plinth]

clear mobs till boss spawns dont need to kill all

[rain bobcat]

boss spawns after like 8 battles

[gray sphinx]

I three star mine just because of OCD

[wind hazel]

but there's no star...

[sleek spade]

isn't the new US Dive bomber in the shop pretty ass?

[ocean terrace]

grab it anyway I guess

[sleek spade]

yea just for collector's purpose

[ocean terrace]

do you get to use Sandy outside of campaign? against CV bosses for example

[wind hazel]

when you dont have anyone better

but usually no

[viscid swift]

might actually have a use

[covert phoenix]

For Yorktown meta, how much worse is the SoNaLi fleet compared to the SoNaRu fleet, since for me the SoNaLi fleet is a lot more doable? https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uU-t3CrFFpKFrheOUHSNHysDfb86P11OztobBlAWWK8/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.c5pf8m43rmsk

[viscid swift]

I haven't tried the former myself so I can't really say

[rain bobcat]

why not tenrai

[viscid swift]

4 strike Yorktown 2

[rain bobcat]

ah

are you gonna use kazagumo then

[viscid swift]

oh no I was just too lazy to swap Soyuz out

[rain bobcat]

ic

[viscid swift]

whether or not 4 strikes will be optimal remains to be seen though

[fleet marten]

Can you craft Hellcats with Hvars now?

[viscid swift]

no

[soft raft]

HVAR has not been added to gear lab yet

[sweet delta]

I daresay it certainly will be better than 3 strikes in a 80s vacuum

[soft raft]

and we have no idea when (if ever) it will

[viscid swift]

the issue is Lexington is too slow for Yortkown to take advantage of her root if we run Skyraider

timing works better for the Tenrai but that's a massive loss in damage

[tranquil rock]

where interception aircraft tho

[rain bobcat]

does she not insta root?

[proper violet]

If I got lex II should I stop pulls?

[viscid swift]

Lexington launches 2 seconds slower on the last airstrike

[rain bobcat]

ok yeah im seeing it with skyraider

last strike no oath is really tight here

[stark quiver]

mog
what the fuck is soyuz doing there

[rain bobcat]

you can solo oath lexi 2 with skyraider

[viscid swift]

just use beacon

[rain bobcat]

wait what's the max rld rn 42 or 45

[viscid swift]

44 and that's with 42

[stark quiver]

according to me its 44

[proper violet]

Should I keep pulling event even if I got lex 2?

[rain bobcat]

oh 44

[sweet delta]

How good is the new plane?

[wind hazel]

how many cubes remaining?

[rain bobcat]

seems to be a poor mans tenrai that's also much faster

[soft raft]

Depends on how much you want the other ships on the banner

The only one I've really heard much of besides Lex2 is Cowpens

[stark quiver]

in a lexi2 and yorktown fleet
is there 2 ad1 being run or no

[viscid swift]

I think it might be the fastest reloading DB in the game or at least one of

[proper violet]

51 cubes left, 55 pulled

[tidal meteor]

My assessment is that it is a faster version of Fairey Firefly and has intercept, so niche/timing only

[wind hazel]

skip, go back to Light

[rain bobcat]

4 strike won't happen with ad1

would have to be 3 strike

[stark quiver]

what will happen

[proper violet]

Should I spam light for UR chance or daily?

[rain bobcat]

4 ad1 will surely destroy competition

[wind hazel]

1 Light daily

[viscid swift]

I'm not +13ing that many

[proper violet]

Ok, maybe I get lex 2 copy in 51 cubes tho

[stark quiver]

cope

[wind hazel]

not worth it

[proper violet]

We think that likely?

[ocean terrace]

maybe you get nothing

[soft raft]

dont pull for dupes

[proper violet]

Ok I won't lmao

[stark quiver]

or maybe you get 10 more copies

[wind hazel]

true

[proper violet]

Tbf I am sad I didnt get unzen, but got like 3 SR which had lower chance

[ocean terrace]

gotta save those cubes up

[proper violet]

I am still salty

It was my first event ur ;_;

I didnt know better ;_;

[rigid onyx]

if you have less than 100 cubes there is no universe where you pull for dupes

[proper violet]

Yeah ok, say less

Love ya'll

[trail dagger]

Im at 70 pulls , with no Lex , bless please

[wind hazel]

if i have less than 100 cubes and 195/200 i would pull for dupe

[proper violet]

Unthinkable

[south sequoia]

Whats cowpens tech bonus

[viscid swift]

+1 reload at 120

[rigid onyx]

that's pitying for a dupe

[wind hazel]

still pulling for dupe

[south sequoia]

Hm cl rld

[wind hazel]

maybe you'd get 2!

[south sequoia]

Wait no shes cvl

[viscid swift]

CV reload

[proper violet]

Yeah would too, free mlb

[south sequoia]

Fuck I do have to get her

Yorktown II is cv rld too right

[viscid swift]

I thought you stopped playing the game

[wind hazel]

i mean, she's a cow. her rld is irrelevant, when she is a cow

[rain bobcat]

avi

[south sequoia]

Momentarily

[viscid swift]

she's CV AVI

[south sequoia]

Oh

[rigid onyx]

cowpens also just looks decent

regardless of tech

[rain bobcat]

offensive aquila

[proper violet]

I am going cow over aquila

[scenic mesa]

Is the f4u in the event shop good?

[tidal meteor]

^

Comparison with Implacable's DB

[viscid swift]

I mean it's literally faster than the Suisei Kai

[ivory sigil]

SP is done, i dont need to do EX right? I try EX and tohka died within 30s

btw should i level them to do these quest???

[fair lance]

They don't need to survive to complete the quest just throw them in your boss fleet.

[blissful hamlet]

Lexington 2 any good?

[stark quiver]

what?

[ocean terrace]

actually ignore what I said im talking out my ass

[stark quiver]

[wind hazel]

[ocean terrace]

only thing I remember is people using shitty ships to get high leaderboard rankings, don't actually know what EX does

[viscid swift]

just clearing it gets you 500 cog chips

[stark quiver]

its more of an antiflex

[ocean terrace]

how hard is it?

[wind hazel]

normal one is doable with decent ships, hard one is hard

[stark quiver]

pretty easy if you have the right setup

[safe nexus]

is it worth pulling in hard construction or special at all?

[ocean terrace]

is it a one-time clear thing then

[wind hazel]

yes

[stark quiver]

the hard one requires you to play with both hands

[soft raft]

No

Event banners will take from either pool to make up their pool

[safe nexus]

oh good to know thx

[hasty skiff]

is tehre somewhere to see how good the new ships are

[tidal meteor]

Faster and has better bomb damage (same as the regular Firefly, slightly lower than 1771 Firefly/the twin engine fighters)

[sick kettle]

wait is it actually the first db with inter?

[rain bobcat]

we can see that just by looking at the stats lol

[viscid swift]

I'm aware

[hasty skiff]

im not good enough for that :(
only been playing for a month

[soft raft]

Pending actual testing:

• UR Pog (in specific niches)
• Cowpens is basically American Aquila
• Cleve Meta is fine probably
• And the Elites are doo doo ass

[viscid swift]

that wasnn't meant for you

[hasty skiff]

thanks!

[viscid swift]

now that I actually compare their healing she might be a better Zuiho

[stark quiver]

on zod?
thats GREAT

[viscid swift]

might

[soft raft]

or like I said before, RNG-less Volga

[viscid swift]

what no, Volga isn't even in the same conversation Blaster

she's just flat out better healing wise than Volga

[stark quiver]

so a better RNG-less Volga

[knotty jolt]

What's cowpens hp stat when maxed btw?

[sweet delta]

What the 8 planes

[viscid swift]

5568

oh yeah 8 planes as well

that skin was a good investment

[tidal meteor]

Cowpens has eight planes?

[knotty jolt]

So good damage ontop of healing? spicy

[ocean terrace]

is EX a single boss?

[sweet delta]

But 8 planes doesn't mean good damage

[sweet delta]

Single battle

[viscid swift]

yeah she's only got one barrage

[ivory sigil]

hmm an Elite had a C rank that equal a BB that is SR, should i build her? she is retrofitable but idont see any in newbie guide

[soft raft]

But what about the barrage nu- oh right

[stark quiver]

you bought it?

[ocean terrace]

do you need another BB?

[ivory sigil]

it's a meaningless battle, i use my best team and only hit like 10%, even if u try i think it is similar

[stark quiver]

dear god cheeky
to think youd be the one

[wind hazel]

so cheeky has a type...

[stark quiver]

it means 500 cogs

[ocean terrace]

didn't he also get the Mog skin...

[viscid swift]

both

[stark quiver]

ill try my best

[soft raft]

I dont think using the endgame tierlist is a good idea for trying to extrapolate what a new player should be buying

[ivory sigil]

ew that's for endgame player 500 cog is meaning less, u can farm it chap12 for months for it

[ocean terrace]

huh.

[viscid swift]

only a new player would say 500 cogs is worthless

[knotty jolt]

Of the skins so far cowpens is one i didn't buy

[wind hazel]

cog is even more precious for a new player

[viscid swift]

practically worth its weight in gold

[soft raft]

Meanwhile I dont bother cuz I'm just lazy

[stark quiver]

my pvp fleet wins either way so no problem

[ivory sigil]

you can farm it tho, just like gold, if u lack u farm

COG ARRAY is the one that lacking

[tidal meteor]

Maybe we should have a new tier list for L2D skins
Need to know the goon meta and which have the most value for gems

[viscid swift]

you can't farm enough of it

[stark quiver]

LMFAO farming cogs

[wind hazel]

i dont think you're aware how hard it is to farm cog chips

[viscid swift]

and farming cog chips is a really generous term relative to its demand

[ivory sigil]

1 cog drop per 100 oil ?

[stark quiver]

cog array is more than worthless folr me

[viscid swift]

esepcially compared to coins

[stark quiver]

i wish

[viscid swift]

you get a cog chip drop something like 1 in 10 runs of a map

and they only drop from clearing rewards

[ivory sigil]

sorry guys i ranted mb

[viscid swift]

and the amount droped in W12 is like 10ish

[rain bobcat]

like 15 cogs every 2k-3k oil wdym

[ivory sigil]

time to back to the west virginia question

[wind hazel]

no, just work on nelson if you haven't already. work on FDG or Musashi next

[ivory sigil]

yeah the only BB i had is Kotori and Mary like @ocean terrace

I dont have nelson i already retire them all, her skill is underwhelm (compare to mary)

[blissful hamlet]

How reliable is Lexington freeze when paired with yorktown 2?

[sweet delta]

No point getting more than one big7 retro

[wind hazel]

if you think nelson is underwhelming then WV is the same shit

[sweet delta]

~~Until Nagato retro that is ~~

[whole crypt]

rightmost column cogs/10k oil

[stark quiver]

why do new players have such high expectations

[fleet marten]

Has anyone already know what are the drops on the Event Stages?

[verbal plinth]

they see this chat and expect to 1 shot everything

[viscid swift]

HVAR Hellcats on D3

[wind hazel]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/A_Note_Through_the_Firmament#tabber-D3

[viscid swift]

other than nothing remarkable

[fleet marten]

No wonder

[ivory sigil]

ok i go back to grinding then

[viscid swift]

see you can tell this was totally not thrown together at the last minute

[sick kettle]

so is gear farming viable or nah

[viscid swift]

you can if you want to

[sick kettle]

how many hvar do i need

[ocean terrace]

well that was my question yesterday, but we won't have access to better BBs for now, unless Feb UR is a BB or you get FDG soon

our BBs are good though, they'll work fine for a while

[viscid swift]

5-6 max

[wind hazel]

ngl but we're lucky we even have something like this for this event past few events we had error404 not found

[viscid swift]

I know

[stark quiver]

hvar re-rerun is crazy
now i get to sit back and watch others suffer

[wind hazel]

do you regret the grind

[ocean terrace]

what hull type is EX boss?

alr ty

[stark quiver]

good question
other than pulling a sleep strat, no

[ivory sigil]

yeah i was expect to build her as a 2nd/3rd fleet usable, but yeah it work the same as nelson i guess
guess we cant be picky about it

[ivory sigil]

you can FIGHT EX ?! ??!

[stark quiver]

they can try

[ocean terrace]

meh, they're all similar in performance, nelson, maryland etc
won't make a difference for now

[ocean terrace]

haven't tried yet lol

[stray crane]

i can only get it to 70%

[ocean terrace]

yeah that hurts

[ivory sigil]

[ocean terrace]

at least it's unlimited free attempts

wait if EX is light, doesn't it count as a light armor test? or is it too weak lol

[ivory sigil]

it is a good place to test your team firepower, but i think it is better we spam Opsi c1 than

[ocean terrace]

I meant endgame fleet testing

[wind hazel]

normal is too weak, hard has its own gimmick, so can't do proper testing

EX is often a test of how good you are at dodging bullet more than anything

[ocean terrace]

oh right it's the manual leaderboard thing

[stark quiver]

i spent 4 hours resetting ranger

[stray crane]

damn i cant even clear normal

[wind hazel]

you will see youtuber suchiguma popping out a video with lv1 ship and taking #1 spot again soon

[ocean terrace]

was it helena that's amazing for EX?

[wind hazel]

she can be

[stark quiver]

perhaps

or you can pull a sleeper strat and use kent

[ocean terrace]

I remember asking what that seemingly useless column was for and that Helena's used for leaderboard stuff

[wind hazel]

sometimes she's the best, sometimes she's not necessary

[verbal plinth]

blindfolded lvl 1 mutsuki ex when

[stark quiver]

i mean.. i do have winter break

[stray crane]

so everyday we clear A1 to B3 and SP then grind d3?>

[fleet marten]

Also I noticed, is Cowpens a good sidegrade to Aquila?, how about Zuihou?

[onyx flame]

honestly if you gonna be grinding hvar you prob have more than enough points without needing to do the daily bonus from normal A1-B3

[viscid swift]

might be a better Zuiho, key emphasis on might

[hardy whale]

i've actually never joined a guild before in AL, what are some benefits?

[onyx flame]

you earn more guild tokens as well as plates from guild operation

[wind hazel]

you get to buy more dock spaces too on top of ^

some guild has private discord and may offer you more personal advice on your progress as well

[sweet delta]

Is that personal advice good?

[wind hazel]

maybe

[rain bobcat]

[trail dagger]

the guide is to farm foxes

[rain bobcat]

inb4 guild leader is massive misinformation spreader and entire guild is bricked

[wind hazel]

that is why you verify, no matter where you get the advice from. even here

[rain bobcat]

who do you even use on anti light USS vanguard

guam wdp laffii/sirius?

[viscid swift]

I'd wager Trafalgar instead of Laffey 2

[rain bobcat]

guam traf wdp ig

[wind hazel]

who's gonna debuff

[rain bobcat]

yk2 has aa debuff

[viscid swift]

Lion, Kearsarge

[slow fox]

eHP final calcs

[wind hazel]

wtf someone told me kearsarge doesnt debuff yesterday

[sweet delta]

Helena Aurora Kent

[viscid swift]

what

Increases this ship's AA by 5% (15%). When your Flagship performs an arcing Main Gun attack: restores 5% of Trafalgar's max HP and creates a Luminous Domain on the battlefield; surface enemies present in the Luminous Domain gain the Luminous debuff (decreases their Evasion Rate by 1% (10%) and decreases their DMG dealt to Trafalgar by 5% (15%)) for 10s.

[rain bobcat]

kear gives 8% amp when enemy is AA debuffed no?

[wind hazel]

no i mean AA debuff, for lexii

[viscid swift]

Yorktown 2 and Trafalgar both have AA debuffs

[wind hazel]

oh

[regal crater]

Should I MLB anyone?

[ocean terrace]

where's Lexy II

[ivory pawn]

My vote's for Trafalgar, assuming you have enough bulins to MLB her in one go.

[rain bobcat]

traf, or lexi if ur you wanna push campaign assuming ur gonna get her

[ivory sigil]

place willy as same rank with trafa is illegal
but yea USS oriented

[regal crater]

Don't have her yet

[ocean terrace]

for USS fleets she's great

[rain bobcat]

just reminding you not to treat the tier list as a bible

there are many nuances in this game

[ivory sigil]

the lore is so long
is lexi & sara are sister?
i assume it by visually

[wind hazel]

ask #al-lore

[viscid swift]

Yes

[ocean terrace]

just check classes if you wanna know if they're sister ships

[sinful relic]

since ive gotten the UR, should i invest in san diego or helena? i completely forgot which one i should do. @wind hazel

[ivory sigil]

-# time to theorycraft Saragota 2 as a next UR

[viscid swift]

Or pick up a history book on the war in the Pacific

[wind hazel]

cant you do both

[viscid swift]

Do you know how USN type 2 ships work?

[sinful relic]

oh true, my brain didnt think that far.

[tranquil rock]

vro thinks people who arent into AL for the lore and history are able to read

[viscid swift]

I mean videos also exist on the subject

[sinful relic]

that being said. i cant retrofit san diego yet, so ill do helena.

[wind hazel]

all i know is that Z23 Zwei is inevitable

[verbal plinth]

your telling me you dont spend hours going down ww2 ship wiki holes

[sinful relic]

enterprise retrofit WHEN (please)

[tranquil rock]

never

[ocean terrace]

Enterprise II >

[rain bobcat]

never because the next substantial enterprise version is the nuclear model

[wind hazel]

you only need sandiego+augment to function up to 12. you can do sandiego's retro when you wanna tackle 13 onwards

[viscid swift]

Fuck Enty retro, give me Belfast retrofit

[tranquil rock]

they would HAVE to upgrade to CVN-65 which they are NOT going to do

[sinful relic]

enterprise got allot of retrofits during the war, so retrofit makes more sense.

[sinful relic]

ooh okay.

[rain bobcat]

they can decide to use any retro for her but never enty 2

[ocean terrace]

one can dream

[ivory sigil]

you can retrofit helena within a few days, but it would take more than a fewweeks to retrofit sandy (assume u had her yet prepare augment / retrofit item)

[tranquil rock]

unless they progress to the modern era

[rain bobcat]

bismarck drei

[sinful relic]

akagi and kaga II FRFR (copium dw)

[wind hazel]

kaga2fast2furious

[viscid swift]

Uh

[tranquil rock]

oh right

[hardy whale]

how long does oil take to refuel or replenish?

[viscid swift]

Depends on your canteen level

[tranquil rock]

depends on canteen level

[stark quiver]

no

[sinful relic]

how about both

[hardy whale]

damn so you can have like 20k limit and only refuel 96 per hour

[wind hazel]

25k is hard cap, and whatever your softcap is

[sinful relic]

wait why is level 10 more expensive than 11 and 12...?

[wind hazel]

idk lol

[ivory sigil]

but there is also these mission guess i do b3 maybe? @fair lance

[stark quiver]

i hate these missions

[tranquil rock]

not like theyre needed anyway 🤷

[fair lance]

You can do b3 but as I said they don't need to survive the fight they can sink in the middle of the boss fight and you get credit

[stark quiver]

its better than grinding more

[tranquil rock]

wdp is mid so why get her

[viscid swift]

11 and 12 were added later

[tranquil rock]

i mean yeah fleet tech but like you have 1 billion other ships

[sinful relic]

ohh

[hardy whale]

damn im broke again

[safe nexus]

do i have tokill boss in EX?

[ivory sigil]

are they daily event quest?

[stark quiver]

because i dont want to be a dirty noob with <100% collection rate

[rigid onyx]

is it just me or is hvar drop rate insane

[hollow gust]

Not getting a UR character is just asking for regret

[viscid swift]

Mid for a UR still potentially useful

[stark quiver]

just you

[rigid onyx]

ive only done 6 d3 runs and got 4

[ocean terrace]

I did 20 runs and got 1

[ivory sigil]

500 cog chip win it or lose it

-# for me is impossible to win

[hollow gust]

Honestly busted for me too , I got 3 in 3

[rigid onyx]

people who dont need it get carried ig

[wind hazel]

i got 0 in 1

[stark quiver]

i remember i got 0 in 3

[wind hazel]

0 in 2 actually, sp gave nothing

[robust onyx]

Got 0 in 8 runs

[hollow gust]

Winners just win harder

[sinful relic]

i think ill get wdp but i wont invest in her, since ill be saving for gaum and laffey 2.

[rain bobcat]

ive gotten 2 in 15

[safe nexus]

??? does it die by itself or no like the previous event

[rigid onyx]

what was drop rate for yorkii rerun again? 20%?

[stark quiver]

no

[wind hazel]

10

[rain bobcat]

19 bugged? idr

[ocean terrace]

if you're talking about DAL event, this is nothing like that

[stark quiver]

single digit for me

DAL didnt even have an ex

[wind hazel]

think it was 9~10% ish, we had a thread with multiple people sharing their results

[rigid onyx]

ill keep an eye on it ig

[wind hazel]

most had it around low 10%

[stark quiver]

sharing and malding are not the same

[ocean terrace]

I assume they're talking about the server clearing the stages for him lol

[stark quiver]

they asked about ex

[safe nexus]

no the one before it

[rigid onyx]

i mean that is quite possibly the worst way to get data collection

[ivory sigil]

i assume the event about Ayasagi / unzen rerun (it is a usual rerun event)

@ocean terrace cuz Yaykurumi is midgame player with many UR in fleet

[stark quiver]

thats the only way to get datacollection

[wind hazel]

wdym lol

... how else would you get data without input from multiple people that farmed it

[rigid onyx]

volunteered sharing famously biases towards extreme cases (good rng, bad rng)

[hollow gust]

If I ever need 6

[wind hazel]

... what

[rigid onyx]

you usually have to have people pledge to share before getting drops

[stark quiver]

people have documented all their runs

[wind hazel]

i dont think you know anything about what happened in that thread

[rigid onyx]

i think i do

[wind hazel]

they were people that farmed more than 100k oil, documenting the drops

[stark quiver]

i wonder who

[wind hazel]

they weren't giving random ass anecdote stories

[rigid onyx]

i dont think you understand the issue

[viscid swift]

I remember someone named Alpha

[wind hazel]

i really don't

you tell me, how would you get a better data than people sharing theirs

[stark quiver]

tear my soul out

[rigid onyx]

when you have people share drop rates post hoc you oftentimes have people only share if their rng is especially notable

[sinful relic]

uhh will lexi2 be more suited for my boss fleet after ive leveled her?

[stark quiver]

i mean shes probably one of the best boats you have

[rigid onyx]

obviously someone who was live updating their drop rates the whole event like alpha is fine

[stark quiver]

i clocked 100 prints at like 950 runs or something
or a thousand i forgot

[south sequoia]

The concept of running out of maintenance oil

[sinful relic]

yeah one of, im tempted to invest in cowpen for my mob fleet for like extra healing alongside unicorn, and then throw lexi2 into boss fleet.

[rigid onyx]

i mean if you were in the one digits it was >1k

[stark quiver]

peak

[ocean terrace]

you only need secondary healer for W14/W15

[stark quiver]

that sounds good

[wind hazel]

all of them were doing what alpha was doing.....

the low, the high. all of them were updating batch by batch

[rigid onyx]

buddy i was active in that thread

[wind hazel]

yeah so was i

[sinful relic]

yes but its good to have them ready, since soon as my ships are leveled and im ccommander level 80, im pushing as far as i can go.

[south sequoia]

Wait you guys have a calculating rate thread?

[wind hazel]

so why do you think that the data from that thread isnt reliable???

[ocean terrace]

at commander level 80 you can go as far as W12

[whole crypt]

if you are capturing both the good and the bad fermi estimates tend to get you in the right ballpark anyway

[stark quiver]

more like a basement thread of degenerates

[hollow gust]

totally cause datamine is banned now

[wind hazel]

there's literally nothing else that can give you more reliable data lol

[tidal meteor]

Correction: the Corsair does not have intercept as far as I can tell. Apologies for spreading misinformation

[sinful relic]

im level 77 so far crying. so like im fine with investing LMAO

[south sequoia]

Oh so normal gameplay help

[stark quiver]

yeah but we got cast aside

[whole crypt]

like if you were only capturing good or only capturing bad then sure it's skewed to no end

[wind hazel]

and what's funny is that everyone that farmed ended up with 9~10% drop rate, which is within margin error

some farmed til 3 some farmed til 5 like alpha

so idk why you wanna debate on the 10%

[rigid onyx]

you increase your margin of error from +- .5% to probably +- 2%

[whole crypt]

it's still "good enough"

[wind hazel]

is 9% not within margin error of 10? what the fuck are you on

[whole crypt]

we don't have the actual rates

[rigid onyx]

i mean if you misuse the term margin of error sure

[sinful relic]

i have no clue whats going on, but im genuinely happy i have my first UR. granted morale is kicking my ass

[wind hazel]

yeah ok buddy you just wanna argue on semantics now

[rigid onyx]

gratz urs are great

[sharp socket]

margin of error when its 8-10% and not 20% or 146% drop rate

[whole crypt]

consider you never defined what your statistical significance needs to be it is within a margin or error

[stark quiver]

[sinful relic]

oh right, is it late jan for the guam UR event?

[viscid swift]

Read my name

[wind hazel]

read cheeky's name

[rain bobcat]

15

[rigid onyx]

if you throw around margin of error its either 3 sigma or 95% depending on context usually

[whole crypt]

don't worry you'll have enough for 7 by the end of this

[sinful relic]

yknow, i ve looked at your named like 7 times and it still didnt click.

[rigid onyx]

for this it would be 95

[stark quiver]

i had a -2000% margin of errror the last time i did maths with it
i dont think i am qualified

[viscid swift]

Anyway, who the fuck cares if it's 9 or 10%

[wind hazel]

he does apparently.

NoT ReLiAbLe

[viscid swift]

Like genuinely

[wind hazel]

like what else you want lmao

[rigid onyx]

i mean honestly 10% to 12% is kind of huge

[verbal plinth]

false at my rate it seems to be .02%

[whole crypt]

9% doesn't mean it's outside of 95%
the 95% doesn't mean +/-.5 of 10, it's based on the distribution of your data set

[viscid swift]

We still don't know the exact drop rate and it's low

[ocean terrace]

0.5% for me

[viscid swift]

And you can still get lucky and unlucky anyway

[rain bobcat]

what is the mean anyway, you can't just throw around the term margin of error unless you know what the mean and sd was

[sharp socket]

10% to 20% is a significant amount, 10% to 12% really isnt

[whole crypt]

please don't make me go back to picking up calculations for normal distibutions

[rigid onyx]

poissonian

[wind hazel]

this is stupid

[whole crypt]

I haven't done serious statistics for about 20 years

[stark quiver]

nnt is old as shit

[whole crypt]

I am probably above average in terms of the AL demographic, yes

[wind hazel]

which month hermit is the strongest?

[stark quiver]

i think is december

[wind hazel]

meck is really stonk

[rain bobcat]

anyway if you really really want to be specific here. considering a population sample, a drop rate of 10% in game corresponds to a 0.02% margin of error

[rigid onyx]

what

[sinful relic]

grandpa

[rain bobcat]

with a 95% confidence interval, your interval is 8. smth to 11 smth

[whole crypt]

it's not that bad, I never had to use it for work

math was more of a high school fancy, I barely touched it in uni as well

[viscid swift]

genuinly though, what does knowing the exact drop rate change

[wind hazel]

ask uto

[rigid onyx]

it got turned into a semantic argument from saying that self reported drop rates in a thread leads to compounded error

[viscid swift]

like practically speaking in trying to farm them

[whole crypt]

you know what I know?
go back to the mines if you need more planes

[stark quiver]

thats my career 😭

[rigid onyx]

i just was wondering if the current event was close to yorkii rerun as well

[stark quiver]

probably
infact im pretty sure its the same

[viscid swift]

I mean I don't see any reason why the drop rate would change

[sinful relic]

tbf in a game about ship girls who wouldnt trust the nerds who are serious about numbers.

[whole crypt]

numbers good
but no need to take it too seriously

[sinful relic]

im bad with numbers

[whole crypt]

numbers is how I know whether I can get bulin to MVP for a monthly challenge

[sinful relic]

HUH

[proper violet]

What in event shop worth

[viscid swift]

the usual really

https://azurlaneecgc.com/shop_priority/#major_event

[stark quiver]

did bulin get killed by glowworm retro

[proper violet]

Ty

[whole crypt]

why would that matter, glowworm is in the fleet regardless, the point is just getting bulin to be the one doing the most

[stark quiver]

are you deadass
i thought u were 1:1 bumper bulin

[whole crypt]

you can't

none of the hard CMs can be done 1:1 bulin

(with bulin taking MVP at least)

[stark quiver]

amazing
do you have a 125/200 bulin

[whole crypt]

I in fact, have 3

[rigid onyx]

each rarity?

[stark quiver]

dont worry ill follow in your footsteps, give me 3 months

[sinful relic]

is it possible to buy everything from shops?

[rigid onyx]

i mean yeah

[viscid swift]

yes but why would you

[onyx flame]

you prob will if your farming a lot of hvar

[sinful relic]

uhh idk i dont see the minuses

[rigid onyx]

its recommended that you stop after clearing 55k points on ladder or clearing out all the actually good stuff though

[ocean terrace]

could be farming 12-4 instead

[viscid swift]

you're farming a map that's worse for XP and coins compared to W11 and W12

[rigid onyx]

opportunity cost of spending oil in 12-4 instead

[sinful relic]

i dont have w12 unlocked till im level 80...

[ocean terrace]

could be farming 11-4 instead

[sinful relic]

im 3 levels off

[wind hazel]

just farm d3 for now, you'll get there

[rigid onyx]

by the time you get to 55k points you'll be lvl80

[stark quiver]

i gained a few levels from hvar farming too

[rigid onyx]

i do think that if you want to do the second copy of williamd (you should since you're new and it saves a bulin) you'll need to go to around 70k ish? I haven't done the math

[wind hazel]

to be fair your cmdr lv is considered pretty low

[ocean terrace]

I don't think any new player should invest in WillyD with Guam/Laffey II tho

[rigid onyx]

is there no minigame for this event

[viscid swift]

it's 415 vouchers you can earn if I got the numbers right

[sinful relic]

ohh okay that works out, im hoping i get decent gear from the BP garanteed SR tech boxes atleast stuff i can use.

[stark quiver]

nah fam

[wind hazel]

getting 2nd copy is not investing it immediately. it's to lessen your UR bulin catchup burden

[rigid onyx]

oh they replaced minigame with clear x stage missions

[stark quiver]

yes, its good

[rapid summit]

Weren’t enty and Alsace in top 3? Why are they not there but Musashi is

[verbal plinth]

there not able to be picked

[rigid onyx]

group a

[ivory sigil]

-# vote OUMI pls

[viscid swift]

no

[stark quiver]

i vote northampton

[ocean terrace]

sure but you probably won't need it for aaaages to come + they probbaly need the oil for farming coins and exp anyway atm

[wind hazel]

you know who to vote for

[sinful relic]

group a

[rapid shard]

You have good taste

[stark quiver]

i know

[wind hazel]

eventually you will, and 1 less bulin is at least 1.5 if not 2 weeks of time saved

[sinful relic]

i voted haku cuz she kept popping up on my loading screen with the drool on the key for some reason

[ocean terrace]

fair enough

[rapid summit]

Ohhh

[ivory sigil]

[stone sluice]

11 hvar blueprints after 75 sorties

How are you doing?

[rigid onyx]

you'll be in UR bulin debt for about 2.5-3 years on an account if they dont change things up

[frail hamlet]

Is unzen worth mlb with bulin? I have enough bulin for unzen, lex II, and 2 more saved for laffey II

[ocean terrace]

thats what I mean, and WillyD is lowest of low prio out of URs

[viscid swift]

I'm not farming HVARs

[viscid swift]

relatively low priority overall

[wind hazel]

but do you have all the UR?

[rigid onyx]

willyd if you dont have z52 honestly looks quite good especially considering a new player with lexii will actually like USS anti light

[ocean terrace]

I won't be investing in WillyD for years to come probably

especially not anytime soon with Guam/Laffey II, Feb UR, Soyuz rerun

[frail hamlet]

My other non-mlb UR are trafalgar, shinano and I-404

[sharp socket]

years is a big word

[wind hazel]

doubt it. you'll probably be on her within a year

[ocean terrace]

if they release more shitty URs maybe

[wind hazel]

and if you get lucky with duplicates on future UR, it will speed up your catchup process too

[rigid onyx]

she's quite good especially if you dont have z52

[ocean terrace]

I hope so

[sinful relic]

btw with how close gaum and laffey is, should i get shinano or just wait?

[rigid onyx]

when you have players with every UR evaluate them you end up with good ships being considered bad because of limited slots

[sinful relic]

(from handbook)

[ocean terrace]

I mean I'd love to get in a state where I can afford to spend UR bulins on WillyD

[exotic wren]

What's the req fleet for d stages?

[wind hazel]

just keep the letter until you need the last shinano dupe to mlb her

[ocean terrace]

yeah but then I see DAL SR vanguards ranking higher than her lol

[vocal niche]

is there any situation that require me to use only META ships?

[wind hazel]

no.......t yet

[rain bobcat]

there are many nuances to ship strength

[stark quiver]

she has her niche

[exotic wren]

There was that one meta fight right

[wind hazel]

we had meta showdown that want you to use meta ship though

[ocean terrace]

if I had a USS fleet yes, which I don't

[vocal niche]

I see

[ivory sigil]

my prediction is not wrong tho

[stark quiver]

QEM doesnt even need meta ship anymore
lion flame does it all

[sinful relic]

ohh, right i totally forgot i have to invest in murashi first.

[exotic wren]

Also meow

[rigid onyx]

who is ranking dal vanguards above willyd

[ocean terrace]

and I won't be able to afford a USS fleet for ages to come too

[rigid onyx]

is this in the context of yorkm?

[ocean terrace]

idk the endgame spreadsheet

she's better than them for W13/W15 probably due to AA
but they outclass her on some things too

[rain bobcat]

dam not 1:1ing

[proper violet]

Should I make xdb2 for independence?

[rain bobcat]

useless plane

[hardy whale]

what is this?

[wind hazel]

cause im not farming there

[rain bobcat]

just use wyvern

[wind hazel]

your bank

[rain bobcat]

you can craft the USS TB it when you don't have anything else in priority that takes electronics

[proper violet]

Independence benefits from eagle plane tho, is that ignored?

[hardy whale]

damn so im rich? 😂

[ivory sigil]

bro flex without knowing it?

[wind hazel]

yes you're quite rich

[sinful relic]

uh?

[viscid swift]

well for one she's not a damage oriented ship period
and the DAL vanguards are also really unremarkable for AA so they're not brilliant for W15 which Willy D is

[onyx flame]

clear D3

[wind hazel]

/hardmode

[odd root]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/460648604974055424/1322138175426269215/image0.png

[hardy whale]

so im assuming this is like whatever oil is in mail that i claimed even though my oil was full?

[ocean terrace]

I mentioned that dw

[proper violet]

Do we ignore independence bonus with eagle planes?

[ivory sigil]

yeah

oh well rip moral if u ever wanna spend them

[viscid swift]

I swear everything is taken out of context whenever we say this but

[wind hazel]

anything claimed from mail will go to your storage first. you can take them out at your will

[hardy whale]

moral? what moral? 😂

[ocean terrace]

but either way I'm not investing in her when there's Guam/Laffey II, Feb UR and Soyuz rerun

[ivory sigil]

your moral ship moral

https://i.redd.it/xf7qoebxkx841.jpg

[viscid swift]

we very much treat URs as their own seperate vacum because of how limited UR Bulllins are

[rigid onyx]

honestly i guess in the context of having dal vanguards built she loses some value in the same sense that having oumi makes rainbow bbs lose some value?

[viscid swift]

like, even the worst URs still kick the shit out of most SRs

[hardy whale]

id still assume that even though i have 150k coins i should spend them wisely, tips?

[ocean terrace]

right but I'm referring to using my UR bulins on a UR ship
when there are way better options coming

[viscid swift]

yes I know

[hardy whale]

we need bigger dorm

[wind hazel]

yea reserve it for when you wanna do UR pull but don't have coin left or something

[wind hazel]

if you need them just take a little out. don't take everything out

[stark quiver]

thats enough for one light pull

[viscid swift]

hmmm

[tidal meteor]

Key word being "most", the SSR BB Oumi outdoes NJ and UvH now, last I heard

[stark quiver]

take just enough at a time
so rest doesnt go to waste

[viscid swift]

maybe I should take a page out of something ancient and do a tierless tierlist

[stark quiver]

bro

[hardy whale]

damn gotta take out portions of my savings account

[wind hazel]

tierless tierlist

[ocean terrace]

yeah and with a ship like WillyD, I doubt I'll use them soon.

[sinful relic]

crap

[stark quiver]

can you put ectl at very bottom
they insulted my babe jimmy

[rain bobcat]

did they now

[viscid swift]

no I mean I'm gonna talk about how good the URs are relative to each other

[wind hazel]

i mean who havent they insulted

[stark quiver]

me

[viscid swift]

but I'm not gonna actually put them in tiers to force people to read

[hardy whale]

would it be wise to take my coins out to spend on the fleet u gave me yesterday to get everyone up to 120

[wind hazel]

for limit break purpose, sure

[sinful relic]

wait was it eagle or royal i needed more?

[hardy whale]

limit break purpose?

[ocean terrace]

I wasn't hesitant on investing into Lex II, for example since she's by far my best ship let alone CV, and she'll take me far. Also since no other UR CVs are guaranteed anytime soon.

But willyD is not only a bad UR, she doesn't provide much and needs a USS fleet and better options soon tm

[ivory sigil]

i would have build Willy D if u not insist me to roll Lexingtons XD

[stark quiver]

coins are easily farmable

[wind hazel]

i mean coin for fleet is either for limit breaking or for enhancing gear lol. what else you wanna do with your coin on the fleet

[stark quiver]

uncap

[wind hazel]

ok limit break+awakening

[sinful relic]

anything useful?

[hardy whale]

gonna be expensive

[sinful relic]

wat about this?

[wind hazel]

helldiver, bofor, toolkit

[stark quiver]

1 3 4(maybe) last plane
from left to right

[hardy whale]

its like 20k to awaken fully 1 ship? ok nvm thats so expensive

[rigid onyx]

isnt there a safe to scrap command

[rigid onyx]

depends on rarity

[wind hazel]

just do it one by one, and i hope you dont use expbooks to make them from 100 to 120 or something

[muted mason]

Yorktown 2 and Lexington 2 L2D skins tutorials??

[hardy whale]

uh oh

[wind hazel]

the fleet i gave you is supposed to be grinded normally

exp anyone who is lower level than 90ish, then you can use them to grind as normal

[hardy whale]

i mean for some i dont need books because their exp is already maxed

so i just awaken and they go up to the new limit

[wind hazel]

ye that's fine, awaken them as you see fit

[hardy whale]

so far is just boss fleet dying so imma fix that

[sinful relic]

OMG I HATE THIS, im always running out of the purple material upgrade for gear.

[rigid onyx]

it's easier to evaluate how good damage focused backline ships will be than vanguard ships so williamd might surprise you people

or she might justify the doomposters

[ivory sigil]

same. but solved when u grind w9 w10 w11 etc etc

[wind hazel]

might be gear issue, they are all lv100 so shouldn't be an issue

[ocean terrace]

well if suchi posts a video about them, I like to believe it's somewhat solidified

[sharp socket]

where did you get that wdp is a bad UR

[rain bobcat]

not bad bad, just not great outside of USS focus

[sinful relic]

how is helena looking?

[wind hazel]

decent, can be better. but i remember you're lacking gear here and there

[rapid shard]

Swap that torp bulge out for blue rudder or naval paint if you have it

[sharp socket]

@slow fox what does AA calcs say about wdp

[ocean terrace]

look if there wasn't Guam Laffey II next month, I'd consider investing into WillyD but they're gonna be much better to use and they'll need a lot of bulins

[rigid onyx]

i mean if guam came out today

[sinful relic]

i gave san diego the only naval camo ive gotten

[sharp socket]

both guam and laff2 are w15 picks and only really useful there

[fair lance]

#gameplay-help message

[ocean terrace]

but what's the rush? do I need an AA USS buffer atm?

[stark quiver]

usual gph parrot
someone says shes not good and now everyone thinks she isnt lol

[rigid onyx]

she has decent buffs too for the fleet even if it isnt uss

[ocean terrace]

I don't have the UR bulins to invest into every UR that comes out

[sinful relic]

didnt have anything else so i just gave her the food. im severely lacking on gear upgrades and gear itself.

[stark quiver]

it doesnt make her bad

yeah
dw its rough at the start

[ocean terrace]

without USS fleet you're telling me she's worth using?

[slow fox]

Uhhh like 72

[rigid onyx]

i mean you can save the bulins and only lb URs as needed

[stark quiver]

shes not shit like everyone says

[verbal plinth]

shes just not a standout with other URs

[ocean terrace]

right but it's smarter to save for Guam and Laffey II surely
I'm not arguing she's shit I'm arguing I don't need to invest in her

[sinful relic]

atleast i have my 2 teams up, i dont need to change the gear for most of them, maybe the AA, but like the rest i just need to upgrade, so i need to get purple upgrades. its really the only thing im lacking thats important right now.

[sharp socket]

theres worse URs than wdp, she seems fine just not the busted top of the line releases that theyve been doing with URs

[ocean terrace]

from what I've heard only Mog release is worse

[upbeat wagon]

yeah but you dont need to spend cubes for her anyways

[stark quiver]

probz yeah

[ivory sigil]

how much UR bulin we need for them both? (assume only 1 copy)

[ocean terrace]

and isn't Guam Laffey II some of the more busted top of the line anyway

[upbeat wagon]

nvm you said invest

[stark quiver]

kinda

[rigid onyx]

guam laffey are w15 powercreep mostly

[stark quiver]

laffey 2 is good in pvp

[sharp socket]

guam and laff2 are part of the best ships for w15

[ocean terrace]

right and WillyD isn't, she probably isn't better than them for most content

[sharp socket]

however you don't need them for w15

[sinful relic]

these are how my two teams are looking, ill change them to fit more accordingly when everyone is level 100+ but for now itll do, my boss fleet will have lexi2 instead of rodney. what does everyone think so far? if you know any good replacements for rodney i can invest in thats SR im fine with doing so i can MLB straight away.

[rigid onyx]

she has a wider net than them pvp notwithstanding

[viscid swift]

Let me put it like this

Guam is tankier has better AA

Laffey 2 is much much tankier and has comparable AA

Both are broadly in the same category for damage

WDP has a small universal damage debuff and universal damage buff for USN ships and the flagship

[sharp socket]

its good yes and you should invest if you're going for w15, but its not like you cant do w15 without them

[wind hazel]

there's no content where you will need D for the next 3 months. just trust your instinct, you don't have to invest into D lmao

[ocean terrace]

okay but this debate has been about whether I should invest into WillyD lmao

[sinful relic]

i want gaum because shes hot

[ocean terrace]

why use my bulins on a subpar UR than Guam Laffey

[rigid onyx]

you are justifying your not investing by calling her bad

[sharp socket]

when the time comes when you're doing w15 you can see about it then

[ocean terrace]

please read what I've said, I never said she's bad

[rigid onyx]

turning to basically comparable ships to be honesty (not including laffii in pvp)

[sharp socket]

or when you discover that you need her

[sinful relic]

think if shes hot enough that you want to stare at her all the time. theres your answer

[ocean terrace]

I said she's a subpar UR that requires USS fleet and that Guam and Laffey II will be better investments

[rigid onyx]

.

[ocean terrace]

bad UR for me to invest in yes

terrible investment with the upcoming reruns

[slow fox]

Where is proof for 110% William D Porter

[viscid swift]

Smh mebot smh

[slow fox]

-# Am I missing a skill

[stark quiver]

its past 930 mebot

[ocean terrace]

she's good with the right fleet, unfortunately I have none of those ships except Lex II

[rigid onyx]

williamd is still preliminary, and honestly on the same tier of 'power' as guam and laffii (again excluding laffii pvp)

[wind hazel]

guam or laffey2 will help you more than willD will help you within next 3 months, end of story

like please, take into account on what he has. he only has lexii, that's it

what the hell is lexii+wdp gonna do

[slow fox]

-# I've been only getting 557

[atomic abyss]

Absolute cin- nothing tbh

It's like giving a new player Trafalgar

[wind hazel]

i'd argue traf is great

[atomic abyss]

At least Guam and Laff2 double as tanks

[ocean terrace]

except WillyD needs USS fleet

[viscid swift]

Trafalgar is actually more useful though

[stark quiver]

she doesnt

[sharp socket]

traf has damage and AA wdym

[ocean terrace]

to be comparable to Traf yes

[atomic abyss]

I mean what's a new player gonna do with a single traf in relation to ya know
Most other new URs

That's my point really

[hollow plank]

is there a list already of priority order of what items to get on the event shop? 😮

[atomic abyss]

Not that traf is bad

[viscid swift]

She's a universal damage debuffer and one of the best we have

[atomic abyss]

She's just not a priority investment for a new player

[wind hazel]

i get your idea, just poor example

[warped acorn]

how good is ykt2

[ocean terrace]

honestly if I had Traf I'd invest in her immediately

[atomic abyss]

It's like telling a new player to raise aurora and sirius early

[viscid swift]

I mean I've reccomend her over various carriers

[sinful relic]

should i replace rodney with cowpens?

[viscid swift]

Yes

[ivory sigil]

i mean i'm the only who been yapp about building WillyD but look husky being roasted i had no intension to wasting more URbulin whatsoever

-# flandreUR waiting list then

and yeah i still idk how much UR bulin being used to MLB, was it 4 like usual SR ?

[atomic abyss]

Well if they already have a full fleet of carriers... Yeah ofc cheeky

[viscid swift]

No

[slow fox]

-# How is WilliamDPorter high eAA guys

[viscid swift]

All they had were some battleships up usually

[atomic abyss]

Good but somewhat powercrept by UR standards
She still really wants kearsage

[stark quiver]

Can oaths and 2 +13 planes carry yorktown 2 meta fight

[rigid onyx]

if you reset ranger enough