gameplay-help

[reef bane]

oooh

[gray sphinx]

it's affecting reddit too apparently or something but you could probably find an unofficial discord somewhere doing the illegal

[faint cloud]

where is this info from

[whole crypt]

from the top

[storm olive]

do they even have money to sue

[atomic abyss]

Less than port

[sweet delta]

What about speculative calculations based on hypothetical numbers that totally aren't datamined?

[cobalt robin]

i wouldnt push the blame onto you

[upbeat wagon]

So only good for no vanguard pressure content?

[midnight mortar]

manjuu employees will look for you and make you disappear

[vale spindle]

if its based on the stat hexagon i approve

[faint cloud]

I'm seeing them still discussing now and even live stream

[pure meteor]

Non official servers is fine it's not like manju can do anything, not even Kuro, hero, Hoyo can do that

[atomic abyss]

Then it'll be easier to slap these people to the 20th century

[whole crypt]

make stat hexes great again

[slow fox]

wait a minute

[sweet delta]

When does CN maintenance finish? Then we can start doing CN datamine at that time?

[plain saffron]

I mean will they send takedown request or something. I'm not risking getting sued

[cobalt robin]

make them reliable

[atomic abyss]

Anyways wiki is fine

[stark quiver]

how can i bypass this rule ender

[rapid shard]

Willys seems reliable now

[plain saffron]

How about YouTube vids

[cobalt robin]

buy manju

[whole crypt]

don't bypass it, circumvent it

[uneven knot]

all i know is wdp didnt have 1 single S rank in the hexagon xd

[plain saffron]

Make your own AL

[wind hazel]

@ocean terrace sorry, it's never now

[cobalt robin]

[soft raft]

Wait wtf happened 💀

[ocean terrace]

I'm reading everything lmao, this is a time to be alive

[midnight mortar]

stop talking about numbers, talk about skins and how much money you'll spend

[rapid shard]

Zero datamined content allowed now

[ocean terrace]

in gph yes

[ivory sigil]

guys this is not #al-general, let keep it gameplay help

[storm olive]

Gph unemployment decree

[cobalt robin]

no more discussing anything in the datamines, its banned now, permanently

[inner delta]

consensus is never share in this server, website can go on about their usual routine

[stark quiver]

theres nothing to gameplay help
its server maint

[faint cloud]

wait and see next time will cn datamine come up in bilibili

[whole crypt]

websites going by their usual routine will probably see their own requests from manjuu if anything contravenes anyway

[plain saffron]

But that have prices, and those are not seen in public yet, which means you're discussing datamined content

[cobalt robin]

i wont spent money cause i still got gems

[knotty jolt]

Gph is my home cause I can't stand general, and currently cause of the new rule we got nothing better to do especially with upcoming maintenance

[cobalt robin]

arent the bundle prices posted in #game-news

[ivory sigil]

what happened on general?

also there is nothing happened on 18th Dec 2025 in #gameplay-help right? let's continue talk about Willy D i love her look

[wind hazel]

brainrot

[onyx flame]

Like any general chat

[knotty jolt]

I just don't enjoy general chat

[cobalt robin]

we have a general chat?

[plain saffron]

Skin prices(in gems) are not

[inner delta]

ill make you see only general chat if you dont follow the rules here

[cobalt robin]

prices should be the usual for l2d and dynamic tho

[atomic abyss]

What Yuki said

[cobalt robin]

we're following

[vale spindle]

guys instead i propose making stat estimations using the publically available stat hexagons here is a handy chart to help https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Ymiros/Hexagons

[wind hazel]

so how do we find out a ship's barrage numbers now? is wiki's barrage datamine also illegal now due to new rule?

[onyx flame]

Question the skin release this event will be available for next year black friday yea? I want that yk2 skin but being dual form is

[cobalt robin]

just be rich

[vale spindle]

i think so yes, usually the cutoff is sometime in march of the same year
maybe june

[verbal plinth]

type in morse code mods cant read

[obtuse island]

best idea ever

[onyx flame]

You right

[atomic abyss]

You underestimate the amount of snitches

[wind hazel]

bro ender sent me 72 hokkien curse words in morse code and hex code, dont try the mods

[atomic abyss]

Why would I do that in morse and hex

[vale spindle]

also this server has an english only rule

[atomic abyss]

I can just curse you knnccb right here

[midnight mortar]

I love willy i dont care about numbers i will have nothing and i will be happy

[plain saffron]

What if it's English morse

[wind hazel]

anyway is this illegal now? the barrage datamine from wiki

[cobalt robin]

whats the highest price for l2d skins?

[soft raft]

Googles "Morse code to text" website

[ivory sigil]

17th Dec 2025: We saw Willy D friendly fires on stream

18th Dec 2025: We friendly fires the leaker

[atomic abyss]

Anyways to emphasise again

Anything pertaining to datamine on the server is banned

Wiki, and database are fine assuming they're updated after maintenance ofc

[midnight mortar]

Even on reddit?

[vale spindle]

my interpretation has always been anything before live server is banned anything after its on live is fair game including combing through already live game files

[plain saffron]

After which maintenance

[knotty jolt]

Is saying just the word datamine bannable offense

[wind hazel]

so lemme make this clear, it's just during the maintenance that it's banned?

[inner delta]

you just can't discuss it in discord, reddit has its own mods

[harsh gust]

we don't manage reddit so we wouldn't know what reddit does

[gray sphinx]

probably since it's coming from manjuu themselves. They'll probably find anyone who leaks now

[whole crypt]

reinforcing my idea that they just don't want people to flame them for bad updates before maintenance is over

[atomic abyss]

Ask Syanda I guess

[vale spindle]

thats how im seeing it

[plain saffron]

D-word

[vale spindle]

and you can't use the d-word to refer to that content

[gray sphinx]

probably if yall keep bringing the word up

[vale spindle]

just say 'from the live server data' instead

[gray sphinx]

maybe just filter it

[cobalt robin]

maint hasnt started yet

[obtuse island]

it would be kinda dumb if it wasn't like that tbh

[wind hazel]

"according to my lawful and legal way of obtaining the numbers, Essex barrage numbers are as such" holy

[onyx flame]

It usually 1.2k gem im ngl i dont rmb if it has gone higher cause anything past is l2d plus or dual form prices alr im pretty sure

[plain saffron]

What if it's just my prediction

[remote yarrow]

-# just migrate to ectl

[cobalt robin]

surely speculating the skin prices wont get me banned?

[knotty jolt]

Aren't dual 1500+

[vale spindle]

@atomic abyss can i post a link to 'fan-translated CN wiki data'

[inner delta]

i know you trying to be funny but this is direct from staff

[viscid swift]

Anyway

[verbal plinth]

no blame on mods here your doing your job

[inner delta]

just do not talk about anything datamine related in this server

cn can deal with its own shit

[vale spindle]

its not a datamine its CN wiki data (translated by me) from the live server of CN

[plain saffron]

So only on CN maint or EN maint also

[midnight mortar]

are you hiding dataminers under the floor?

[viscid swift]

So as of right now we know nothing about the new ships or gear and will not know anything until the maintenance finishes

[inner delta]

well anything that isn't datamine

[viscid swift]

So be it

[plain saffron]

Like what counts as datamine

[atomic abyss]

Frankly it doesn't change much at all

[knotty jolt]

I'ma go pewf out and let this blow over and see what the verdict on shit is in the morning.

[cobalt robin]

we getting new ships?

[plain saffron]

Let me try an example

[whole crypt]

so basically we're just talking about no discussion of the numbers before the servers are back live again?
because wiki and database numbers are basically not going to be based on data players see on game screen

[atomic abyss]

Sigh

[plain saffron]

I can go and lvl skill lvl one by one and compile and it's fine. But if it's datamined it's not

Even though both are same result?

Or is it maintenance time only? And if so which maintenance

[inner delta]

what part of "dont talk about shit that isn't live" part you dont understand

[plain saffron]

I've been asking for a while which maintenance

[inner delta]

every content that isn't in the live current running game is a datamine

everything that has data to mine

if its a rerun then who the fuck cares, everything is already in game

[viscid swift]

But CN maintenance ends before ours

[plain saffron]

So after cn done maintenance we can post the d word here or not?

[inner delta]

yea

so wait until cn is done

then you can talk

[ocean terrace]

gosh I hope WillyD will be the tankiest DPS carry DD

[plain saffron]

Can talk only or can post the datamine also

[cobalt robin]

[wind hazel]

👍🏼 ok thanks, dont be mad yuki i love yo

[whole crypt]

CN maint ends in suppsedly 3 minutes

[rigid onyx]

willyd has a bad stat hexagon so she's bad

[sterile jolt]

Xddddd

[wind hazel]

isnt it another hour

[faint cloud]

1 hour later

[zinc basalt]

[plain saffron]

I'm just trying to understand how much the ban covers. Don't want vague stuff and suddenly got muted or banned

[whole crypt]

ah right timezones

[atomic abyss]

Well nagami

[whole crypt]

wait right it's ending 1600 not 1500 today

[gray sphinx]

if it doesn't come straight out of manjuu's mouth don't talk about it

[atomic abyss]

If you have to ask, you probably shouldn't be posting it

Anything in the live game is... Fair game

[analog tendon]

just got here and saw the convo.....guys, isn't this literally just a "wait 8 hours then everything is fine"?
I know maint makes everyone bored but why risk causing problems and/or annoying the mods over something that is gone in 8 hours anyway?

[inner delta]

ill ask you back, if the game server is live does it still count as "datamine"

[atomic abyss]

This

[cobalt robin]

lets hope its not as unlucky as the irl counterpart

[rapid shard]

So once CN is live everything is fine then right?

[plain saffron]

Yes because it's mined from the game files?

[inner delta]

since you literally can just see everything already

no i mean

[rigid onyx]

I mean barrage numbers are basically always acquired through means

[plain saffron]

There's a lot of stuff you can't see like the hidden conditions. You play this game you know how little info we get from the skills description

[gray sphinx]

you gotta wait until the event goes live or whatever is in the livestream only now

[cobalt robin]

just wait till cn maint is over

[inner delta]

ok fine that was kinda vague, what im saying is the thing we got from staff is any newer content that you aren't supposed to able to see

[whole crypt]

as a matter of technicality nothing is ever dug out of server files, we can only mine local files anyway

[inner delta]

the new shit, like new ship stat, lore, story, etc

wait until the data is already up and live, then you can talk

[neat terrace]

are the ship that bad that you needed to remove datamine and talking about it?

[wind hazel]

ask about D being terrible after <t:1766044800:F>

[plain saffron]

Also after maint is done we can talk but can we share the google sheet?

[ivory sigil]

Do we get golden cat via free often?

[vale spindle]

we can share a google sheet that has no history of content being added before CN maint is live

[wind hazel]

no

[inner delta]

i need to wait for staff to finish, hold on that

[plain saffron]

Still rng

[wind hazel]

you dont even get them often if you buy 15 cat boxes a day

[cobalt robin]

if youre very very lucky, yes

[rapid shard]

Yeah just trying to make sure cause this is primarily "EN" here. So is it fine to discuss new content when CN goes live her or wait for EN to go live. Dont wanna catch a ban over a misunderstanding

[crimson glacier]

Literally 1984

[inner delta]

since technically they are more talking about ToS breaching in datamine. So wait for further news

[whole crypt]

regularly every 2 months from cruise, there's usually some in event shop, but not common

[ivory sigil]

Also does i need to keep to cat lv20 right no need to invest much as newplayer?

[obtuse island]

getting a cat with good 3 base skills is prob the easiest part

[neat terrace]

this game had datamine for years and now it breaks tos?

[wind hazel]

level them to 30

[vale spindle]

tos can change its not a constant thing

[atomic abyss]

They've now decided to enforce it

[remote yarrow]

ToS can change

[ivory sigil]

My 1st lv20 cat is in Elite rank

[harsh gust]

don't post datamines regardless of when it's been posted or updated
don't post content in the game until it is actually possible to see it with your eyeballs by opening the game
you can in fact post content in the game after it is actually possible to see it with your eyeballs by opening the game

[wind hazel]

as long as you have comfort space, just level your cats. you will feed and do cat cannibalism soon to power level them when you have good ones

[soft raft]

It could also be that bad faith actors have forced their hand

[harsh gust]

if there are any updates to this - we will update you all

[vale spindle]

going back to nagami question what about barrage numbers which notably cannot be seen anywhere in the game even on the live server?

[rigid onyx]

the 1500 core data cat named drake is also better than most cats you'll ever find

[obtuse island]

regardless of the skills you would want a high lvl cat for opsi since it makes you get better rewards from the cat nodes

[whole crypt]

so am I correct to assume anything that is not visible as a number to the player on game UI is out of bounds to be mentioned then

[soft raft]

Also if you are in the US, you can literally sleep through like 80% of maint so you'll live fine

[verbal plinth]

yeah its 2am est

[harsh gust]

not allowed
if wiki has it - you can post it and we can assume they got it from wiki exclussive barrage wizard that told it to them

[whole crypt]

[neat terrace]

it's 9 am for me though. the entire day just started for me

[obtuse island]

cannibalism is one way to say put it

[whole crypt]

at least the meta isn't really changing this event

[plain saffron]

They're just trying to force wiki people to actually update wiki

[wind hazel]

damn not even cheeky, but thorin also lost his side job 😭

[rigid onyx]

through these numbers that were divined through intuition I will tell you the damage of this barrage

[whole crypt]

to be fair if the enforcement continues wiki will get its own takedown requests

but that's a different topic

[vale spindle]

they know killing the wiki will kill the game's userbase that won't happen

[verbal plinth]

no man on earth can do that

[atomic abyss]

For now

[crimson glacier]

What userbase

[plain saffron]

Hi torva

[rigid onyx]

eos soon

[atomic abyss]

if you want my honest recommendation

[gusty olive]

Absolute State of Azur Lane

[atomic abyss]

Just play it safe and don't say anything at all datamine related

[crimson glacier]

What % players even do 50% of metas HP in 1 fight

[verbal plinth]

just say 1/2 portland as code

[atomic abyss]

Whether that changes we will let the relevant ppl know

[zinc basalt]

0.0001

[plain saffron]

Can't even ask if the new aux affects "insert a ship variant here"

[crimson glacier]

You can clear most of the game including all events with random stuff

[atomic abyss]

Nagami you're already on a knife edge with regards to datamines

[vale spindle]

based on past trends thats easily answerable though :MURM:

[atomic abyss]

I would strongly recommend you of all people play extremely safe

[eternal basalt]

You'll never make us And GPH is now useless during maint?

[plain saffron]

[atomic abyss]

To be clear

[woven rain]

[atomic abyss]

Staff have told us that datamines are now bannable offenses

[wind hazel]

ban the staff

[strong tartan]

😡 😡 now i have to wait a staggering EIGHT hours to see if (xyz) is playable 😡 😡 😡 😡

[obtuse island]

it can't be THAT bad

[plain saffron]

Time to go back to spreading misinformation instead of dataminer

[viscid swift]

It is what it is.

[rapid shard]

@atomic abyss just for clarity cause its all kinda vauge. Once CN server goes live after maintenance ends, discussion is fine then right?

[atomic abyss]

To quote res

[gray sphinx]

it shall be what hoyo and wuwa servers do now

[crimson glacier]

8 hours? You mean like 8 weeks

[viscid swift]

Just adopt a we know nothing policy until after maintenance.

[atomic abyss]

don't post content in the game until it is actually possible to see it with your eyeballs by opening the game 
you can in fact post content in the game after it is actually possible to see it with your eyeballs by opening the game```

[vale spindle]

can you update your pin with this

[plain saffron]

I'm dumb so my understanding is. Anything you can see in game is fine, everything else is not. For now. Right?

[atomic abyss]

Yes

[gray sphinx]

for now? you mean forever

[atomic abyss]

Just play it safe

[whole crypt]

basically anything that's not on UI is

[gusty olive]

So... Also outside of ALO is at risk?

[atomic abyss]

We don't want to ban people for stupid reasons like tos violations

[plain saffron]

So we can't see like half of the ships kit now

[vale spindle]

staff can change it later after they see the backlash or whatever

[crimson glacier]

Finally we are at the vibe guiding season

[atomic abyss]

It's not about backlash

[plain saffron]

Because game so bad at showing these stuffs

[gray sphinx]

I don't think there will be a backlash ngl

[atomic abyss]

For now just play it safe that's all

[gusty olive]

Remember skills sometimes having incorrect info?

[gray sphinx]

at least not big enough for it to change

[crimson glacier]

just say rainbow good and rest bad

[muted wind]

so no more barrage stats. okay, cool

[gusty olive]

Good luck everyone.

Welcome to the 1984 stage.

[crimson glacier]

Reality can be whatever I want

[eternal basalt]

BAN

[harsh gust]

is UR? -> good
is SR? -> flip a coin
is Elite? -> who cares lmao

[gray sphinx]

yes it's a reoccurring rule now

[whole crypt]

except this event just put a dent in "is UR? -> good"

[gray sphinx]

SHHHH

[harsh gust]

whoa how would you know that pal

[plain saffron]

Ban

[wind hazel]

how do you know that?! you';re under arrest

[whole crypt]

lmao

[hard mesa]

Not only pre maint?

[storm olive]

Bad stat hexagon 🚮

[strong tartan]

we have to listen to the stat hexagon now

[atomic abyss]

Or like

Gasp

Wait a couple of hours

Holy shit what a shock

[crisp raven]

please let staff know that this would be the ideal time to be more transparent with players. there have been a lot of QoL requests for more visible numbers and info on character pages. also, now more than ever, proper internal testing is important so an update contains correctly displayed info and character skill interactions.

[remote yarrow]

My ADHD makes me unable to wait

[viscid swift]

How are we supposed to get William D. Porter buffed now lamo

[eternal basalt]

You don't

[gray sphinx]

if they're like limbus company they can always buff after maint

[plain saffron]

But we still can't see half of skills conditions and whatnot because game is so bad at showing it

[vale spindle]

bro william D porter is fucked did you see the stat hexagon just from that i can already tell she is shit

[gusty olive]

YOU WILL GET TRASH AND YOU WILL LIKE IT

[rapid shard]

Least I can build up bulins lol

[gray sphinx]

HOLY THE HEXAGON

[crimson glacier]

So is the rule just for this game or is part of off topic also going to get nuked

[strong tartan]

lol imagine this rule existed a year ago and we had to live with a dogshit mogador for the rest of our lives

[whole crypt]

except we're basically no good with anything not visible on UI now so we can't even say if WDP will have a good barrage

[gusty olive]

The horror

[gray sphinx]

mogador still buns in my eyes but she's definitely a treat when it comes to other aspects

[harsh gust]

only for AL, at least we have not been told to enforce it for other games

[plain saffron]

I'm fine if the game actually shows anything useful

[atomic abyss]

I agree
But unfortunately that ain't changing the stance regarding the datamine ban

[verbal plinth]

something big then

[viscid swift]

I can count on one hand the amount of times a ship has been buffed post maintainencd

[plain saffron]

Like how tf I'm supposed to know

"Will do stuff if equipped on certain ship"

[vale spindle]

they want you to play the game and find it out that way surely

[atomic abyss]

...maybe test it out in game

Like how you would do it on other games?

[gray sphinx]

"so you're saying there's still a chance "

[plain saffron]

Time to count individual bullet that hit geryon so we can know it's HP

[crisp raven]

nono, not to change their stance. just to make it so there isnt a need for datamine to help diagnose issues. this is going to really rough for AL with the number of problems any update can have.

[plain saffron]

Because game never showed that

[verbal plinth]

send ships solo into w15 to find its ehp

[viscid swift]

Or that we still have augments bugged they still haven't fixed for years

[strong tartan]

what if geryon gets oneshotted and we never find out

[ivory sigil]

Ya ya
told u guys to talk about the chestsize of Willy D instead of her kits although it really didnt seem like Gameplay-help thing...

[rapid summit]

Plot armour

[gray sphinx]

we have bugged augments?

[viscid swift]

Yes

[soft raft]

Didn't it take like 4 years for Illustrious chan to be fixed

[sharp socket]

hi guys how about we talk something else like uh can we do dps calcs on 100 kai vs single 113 for barrage dds

[strong tartan]

more than u think

[plain saffron]

We even have bugged skills bro

[gusty olive]

Oh boy... The datamine bans are so gonna be cancer

[crimson glacier]

Essex is the strongest ship in the game finally

[whole crypt]

game still has plenty of 🐛

[verbal plinth]

we got bugged skins too

[viscid swift]

How long has little Illustrious been bugged now

[strong tartan]

kursk was bugged for a bit lolz

[inner delta]

to note, idt lusty chan is fixed

[crimson glacier]

Prove me wrong you cant

[wind hazel]

suchi's content has been cut down by at least half now rip never surpassing kimocheese

[harsh gust]

just draw tarot cards if you need to find out if it's bugged or not

[sharp socket]

idk why you guys are so allergic to waiting a couple more hours for content that you weren't supposed to access early anyway

[strong tartan]

quyet top azur lane creator

[plain saffron]

No it's not about waiting. we can't even after that maint ends

[muted wind]

the game literally doesn't display half the info anyways

[sharp socket]

just be hyped and TC like every other game out there

[vale spindle]

its not about waiting, its about info the game never displays at all like barrage numbers

[verbal plinth]

but i want to know if i can 1 shot meta .2 seconds faster with new ship! /s

[viscid swift]

Cel, we now cannot access barrage numbers without a lot of loopholes

[atomic abyss]

Nagami

[plain saffron]

The game is so bad at telling us anything

[atomic abyss]

To put it bluntly

[gray sphinx]

absolutely cooked

[viscid swift]

They have to be posted someplace like the wiki first now

[atomic abyss]

They are simply enforcing the ToS as they should have been in the first place

[gusty olive]

This is gonna be so like Uma but without gametora

[atomic abyss]

So nothing we can do about it

[verbal plinth]

this is the first time they thought of discord in 5 years /bless

[strong tartan]

we band together and march to yostar hq like the avengers

[rigid onyx]

datamining isn't a thing common only for gachas...

[gusty olive]

IT'S ALL BECAUSE THE TITS

[wind hazel]

sending my angry korean truck right now

[sharp socket]

who actually looks at barrage numbers, its not like we have a dps sheet like we do for ehp

[gusty olive]

And PROMELLIA

[rigid onyx]

are we not allowed to say the word

[atomic abyss]

The issue isnt stemming from this discord

So ya

[gray sphinx]

filtered from now on like wuwa and hoyo servers surely

[strong tartan]

it gets censored like on roblox

[sharp socket]

i dont remember ever deciding that one ship is better than another ship just because of their barrage numbers

[atomic abyss]

Marching to Yostar isn't gonna help you either

[strong tartan]

########

[gusty olive]

What word?

[inner delta]

especially when the plane cost is through the roof because its december

[stark quiver]

i do
barrages do a lot

[strong tartan]

ulrich von hutten

[viscid swift]

No but this is now gonna make things a lot more bloody difficult

[stark quiver]

oh shit server maint
no pvp for me

[ivory sigil]

The D word

[gusty olive]

Regenerate?

[rigid onyx]

word with no d in it

[sharp socket]

you could also just wait for lars or somebody else to put it into his calc and find it there where it'll actually be even a little useful to have

[gusty olive]

Replace R with D but ig my guess is wrong regardless

[cobalt robin]

enterprise?

[whole crypt]

we kind of do we just don't actively refer to one most of the time

[dull zealot]

What does Director's Screenplay do btw

[rigid onyx]

random effect

[atomic abyss]

If there are changes to this new rule, we will update accordingly

[dull zealot]

my bad, i mean what effect

[atomic abyss]

For now just play it safe

[stark quiver]

literally say the word datamine bro
its not that hard, and it doesnt get anyone in trouble since its not even happening

[viscid swift]

We don't know legally

[strong tartan]

random

[whole crypt]

just for the record datamining is indeed commonplace but it is also indeed against ToS

[inland shoal]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Director's_Screenplay

[obtuse island]

the d word was the friends we made along the way

[dull zealot]

[plain saffron]

My lawyer told me that i can't tell you

[vale spindle]

we do legally know cause it came out today

[strong tartan]

no like im being serious its random

[wind hazel]

thorin are you gonna update barrage on wiki in 40mins?

[vale spindle]

also can't you see it if you click on the reward icon for the equip

[rigid onyx]

it just says a random effect no?

[rapid shard]

It just says random effect in game

[dull zealot]

it says random effect only LOL that was why i asked

[vale spindle]

the wiki somehow figured out the effects so just check there

[crimson glacier]

Sounds kinda sus

[rigid onyx]

oracle gave it to them

[vale spindle]

thorin did some in game testing

[strong tartan]

they asked the director

[verbal plinth]

these wiki guys sound sus

[rigid onyx]

move to Delphi and find out the barrage numbers yourself gang

[ivory sigil]

DMG dealt +1%
EVA +3%
HIT +3%
Heal 1%
so the heal is best?

[gusty olive]

Rip... Banned

[crimson glacier]

This goes against my agenda of it having possibility of swapping the game bgm with balatro

It's just really rare trust

[sharp socket]

gph letting off topic gifs and reaction images once more

[viscid swift]

The floodgates opened

[ivory sigil]

azurlane gif priority

bruh it is a sticker from this server not a gif

[whole crypt]

gameplay help is now based on divined numbers given to us by an oracle, we take no resposibilty over the source and accuracy of the information

[sterile jolt]

Tf

[plain saffron]

So did you tested 10000 times to get the probability today?

[whole crypt]

how many sigmas though

[verbal plinth]

wiki team you gotta carry us now

[viscid swift]

Legally these are now numbers we all made up that may or may not be accurate

[sharp socket]

you missed 2 more from the same guy scroll up

[plain saffron]

Just say you get it from AI

[whole crypt]

AI now good for AL pog

[viscid swift]

Pasadena is now the most broken ship in the Game might be able to 1-1 clead w15 on lethal with her and only purple gear

[storm olive]

Grok is this true

[fleet berry]

If the subreddits decided to not ban the discussions, gonna be the ultimate irony when Reddit answers are more verifiable. 'Just ask in the subreddit!'

[ocean terrace]

im sure the mods will tend to it if it gets out of hand

[ivory sigil]

bro it is maint, there is nothing to do in Gameplay-help

what's else can we do beside posting emoji

[plain saffron]

I think saratoga is better than lex 2

[viscid swift]

Cannot be proven wrong

[atomic abyss]

Just don't do anything

[ocean terrace]

my 0lb Lex II just outdamaged mlb Lion by 100x

[sharp socket]

have you considered #maintenance-channel

[eternal basalt]

Must be true

[gray sphinx]

that's funny cause mine only did by 67x

[atomic abyss]

Do you really want us to start strictly enforcing the channel rules

[plain saffron]

Your lex ii you say? Hacking?

[sharp socket]

gph isnt the channel for off topic gifs and reaction images, theres a literal channel for you to shitpost in

[whole crypt]

as it turns out I stopped bothering with reddit because I stopped having spare office time with my new job

[gray sphinx]

aight fr tho #maintenance-channel and #al-general time

[inner delta]

maybe they want ender

its time

[ivory sigil]

ok i gonna remove my gif up there then
-# didnt expect u guy didnt like glascone and laffeynapping gif... i was just want to make the discuss less tense...

my brain rn ->

[vale spindle]

expect en translations of cn game data to come after an hour ish probably

there were some delays not necessarily due to new rules but due to me being busy but now im not busy so i can get to it

[blissful hamlet]

Are you being real or ironic

[gilded carbon]

There is no fall-off in Dropchance for Story-SSR, is there

[eternal basalt]

We don't know

[gilded carbon]

The Choukai-mine of 12-4 has been taking longer then th Foxes combined

Oh, we dont? Oh dear

[verbal plinth]

you will do 12-4 forever

[atomic abyss]

As far as community recorded data is concerned

[blissful hamlet]

🤡 🤡 🤡

[atomic abyss]

And I do actually mean people recording down shit

The SR drop rate on maps does appear to be 1.5%

[wind hazel]

i guess the only good thing from this new rule is that serenity cannot ask whether X ship is good for few hours. nice, peace of mind

[atomic abyss]

Which is coincidentally, 2x 0.75% of each fox

Which is the one drop rate we do know

[gilded carbon]

Fair. Well, more runs whenever the Game is up once more. Thanks

[atomic abyss]

I think the community sourced data was like 1.51% or some shit

[strong tartan]

they can be adding anything into the game as far as we know everybody welcome trading to azur lane

[verbal plinth]

eww

[sharp socket]

i know you didn't ask for this but the coin/oil ratio for 12-4 is 6.81 coins per oil spent at oilcap, i did data collection for this over like 2 months

[gilded carbon]

Or my fox-mines where tame. Kaga dropped rather quickly

[sharp socket]

one day ill do data collection for 13-4 and 14-4 for coins

[atomic abyss]

I think they were tame

[hollow gust]

Testing in AL is so shit

Imagine having a reliable endscreen damage

Half the time trafalgar tits show up when top damage is Lion

[crimson glacier]

How do you know it's lion

[eternal basalt]

That's just showdown simulation

[wind hazel]

is linking suchi's site to stuff like concealment or submarine calculator also forbidden? since they contain some info acquired from datamine

[hollow gust]

That's so true, maybe trafalgar is insanely op

[inland shoal]

Simulation just shows middle vg

[atomic abyss]

For now no

[hollow gust]

That's actually hilariously stupid

[inland shoal]

You can see it doesn't even mark MVP at all

[faint cloud]

since cn is open, then

[verbal plinth]

prob tied to mvp lol

[eternal basalt]

If you saw Thorians screen she was LVP

[verbal plinth]

ahh i ment it would only show lion on top if there was a mvp but there isnt and it defaults to middle vg

[whole crypt]

@viscid swift is this what you're on

or something similar

[viscid swift]

Yes

Except I use Laffey 2 instead of Kursk

[whole crypt]

[viscid swift]

And a few more minor adjustments

It's been very reliable even with momo only at level 109

[faint cloud]

yea saw someone with momo 100

[viscid swift]

So, is there any reaction on CN to William D.

[whole crypt]

not much

[faint cloud]

a buffer of eu? not much

[whole crypt]

besides laughing at it and "UR" memes

[viscid swift]

Disappointing, oh well

First dog UR

[soft raft]

Surely it can't be worse than Kron

[faint cloud]

nah, her crossfleet

[whole crypt]

I guess they're not so concerned because LexIIgud

and USS isn't really a faction they care about

[ocean terrace]

'the new URs are always good'

[rapid shard]

First time for everything

[wind hazel]

new gacha UR are always good*

[whole crypt]

first meme UR I guess

new gacha URs are always good, that still holds
last time this happened we were shitting on mogs

[gray sphinx]

I still do sometimes

[whole crypt]

but at least mogs was a mechanical problem

[gilded carbon]

Wich they patched, No?

[viscid swift]

Yes

[whole crypt]

which they patched, yes

[wind hazel]

took several patches too

[viscid swift]

They're probably not fixing William

[whole crypt]

WDP is just shit stats

[ocean terrace]

what a lovely start to my first UR event ay?

[whole crypt]

(CN should be up don't look at me!)

[atomic abyss]

Meme irl and meme in game too?

CN is up yes

[wind hazel]

i mean you should be focusing on lexii lol

[gray sphinx]

it's normally not like this

[viscid swift]

Pretty much

[gray sphinx]

Lion's event was great

[whole crypt]

LexII is fine, even better that you don't need to worry about raising WDP resource wise

[gilded carbon]

So was Hakuhou

[ocean terrace]

true, I was gonna save my bulins for Guam and Laffey II anyway

[viscid swift]

Sigh, didn't have a good feeling when she was announced and yeah

[hollow gust]

Idk why you guys assuming so early , most of you guys were bitching about how medicore Elridge was originally

[wind hazel]

more like, lexii+musashi

[gray sphinx]

yea that gold gear is actually good

[whole crypt]

yeh CN is mostly focusing on LexII good

[ocean terrace]

but light pulls will take me a while, 250 days to be exact

[gilded carbon]

? What is the Problem with Hakuhou

[whole crypt]

also cow actually having milk

[viscid swift]

She has 74% ehp and is very clearly meant for campaign

[strong tartan]

nothings wrong with hakuhou

[gray sphinx]

nothing

[wind hazel]

surely you have some pity accumulated by now

[rapid shard]

Gold ship events count to perm pity fyi

[viscid swift]

She's basically Hammann 2 but UR

[ocean terrace]

yeah 150 lol

[strong tartan]

anything non ur counts to pity

[whole crypt]

except they took Hamm2's hedgehog and gave it to the purple

[hollow gust]

74% sounds like a arbitrary number when we aren't even supposed to get values yet cause of the ban

[ocean terrace]

I mean I hope Feb UR is bad, then I might have cubes for Musashi perma pulls lmao

[viscid swift]

Something Something obtained before it was enforced

[rapid summit]

Is Soyuz rerun gonna be the next UR releasing after Guam rerun?

[gray sphinx]

just grab musashi passively. The whole game is a big ass timegate

[rapid shard]

Will she be a decent investment for newer players campaign specifically?

[viscid swift]

Probably not

[gray sphinx]

you'll be playing this game for years to see good progression

[viscid swift]

Like I wanna be wrong but

It doesn't look at all promising

[ocean terrace]

my BBs are so bad though and I won't have access to a good one till Soyuz

[hollow gust]

Either way it's better to wait than assume with extremely incomplete numbers and skills like you guys did with Elridge and co. I swear no one learns about not doomposting support ships

[gray sphinx]

you won't even be using soyuz much either ngl. She's not really your normal BB

[ocean terrace]

fantastic

[rapid shard]

Thats what I was thinking sadly. Hopefully in game she surprises us all

[strong tartan]

she's a ur she can clear anything just fine

[viscid swift]

Who the fuck was doomposting about Eldridge

[long aspen]

In another game that I play, datamining is called "exploiting the ever loving sht out of the devs poorly secured json files"

[viscid swift]

Certainly not me

[wind hazel]

dont listen to him lol, soyuz works as standalone, or paired

[sharp socket]

soyuz is a good BB

[hollow gust]

It's like an actual cycle with this place : doomposting, actual testing , then figure out they have strong and powerful niches.

[quasi nymph]

who's better ? eldridge or laffey 2 ?

[ocean terrace]

meh still, gotta wait for what April then?

[verbal plinth]

both

[gray sphinx]

I'm not saying she is completely unusable but I'd rather use musashi

[whole crypt]

look even secured ones get cracked
the point is if it's not allowed, don't cry over being caught doing it

[wind hazel]

likely yes

[south sequoia]

just use both

[strong tartan]

what are you waiting for exactly

[south sequoia]

theres 2 fleets

[ocean terrace]

a good BB

[south sequoia]

they have different use cases and niche

[quasi nymph]

how about using both of them in the same fleet ?

[viscid swift]

What niche is there for a ship that is fragile and is only notable for campaign

[sharp socket]

theres like alot of good BBs now

[verbal plinth]

thats pvp meta to use both so yes lol and can prob do all campain

[strong tartan]

there's plenty of good non ur bbs u can invest in im sure waiting till april would hinder ur progress if anything

[ocean terrace]

I'll get FDG probably in a couple months (dev30)

[viscid swift]

Like yes she has decent AA and a very convoluted if good flagship cover skill

[hollow gust]

You machine translated subpar CN datamine , you want to make an assumption on that?

[sharp socket]

fdg is a fine BB

[gray sphinx]

just keep playing and FDG is also a good ish start yes

[sharp socket]

she is still UR

[south sequoia]

it works for aa heavy content but preferably they should be used apart, especially if your other fleet has survivability issues

[ocean terrace]

like? I have Kotori and Maryland retro atm

[gray sphinx]

you'll collect em all as you play

[whole crypt]

what datamine we don't have that around here

[quasi nymph]

maryland retro is also great right ?

[strong tartan]

well there you have it

[viscid swift]

Someone who also speaks cn translated her skills before that thread was nuked

[ocean terrace]

subpar BBs

[gray sphinx]

yes

[haughty skiff]

Musashi, Soyuz & Alasce are all good BBs that you can either get or are rerunning in 3 - 6 Months

You should get Meck in that timeframe as well if you're following recommended research

[sharp socket]

fdg gaps maryland retro

[gray sphinx]

everyone starts somewhere

[ocean terrace]

yeah guess I expect too much in terms of progress in ships

[strong tartan]

stop comparing what you have to what people have in this channel

[atomic abyss]

Okay I haven't been here in a while
But if you're new to the game
Those are already good picks

You're not gonna be rolling with top of the meta picks immediately

[quasi nymph]

like a ur should right ?

[whole crypt]

just learn to read moonrunes before bilibili nukes them

[gray sphinx]

this

[atomic abyss]

Patience padawan

[ocean terrace]

more so FOMO, imagine starting with Lion event this year

[wind hazel]

just because soyuz reruns next quarter doesn't mean you should be avoiding using any decent BB lol

[gray sphinx]

like I said this whole game is a big ass timegate

[atomic abyss]

Then what do you want to do

Use no BBs at all?

[whole crypt]

game is a marathon, you'll be fine in maybe a year or 2

[rigid onyx]

timegate iff you want to do meta one shots and pvp

[south sequoia]

^ plus, and even if you do you also lack the resources to get these meta picks rolling immediately

[sharp socket]

fdg might be old but she's still UR and perfectly usable for up to 14-4 and opsi

[viscid swift]

Her skills very clearly make her a campaign ship and she might have been decent if she wasn't so damn fragile for late campaign stages

[stark quiver]

who needs meta to win

[remote yarrow]

You didn't need to start with non retro Warspite, which was considered good back in the day

[verbal plinth]

if your going meta come back in 2 years for lion /s

[strong tartan]

id rather be using decent-subpar bbs than wait all the way until soyuz reruns to have something usable

[viscid swift]

It's the same bloody trap Hamman 2 fell into

[ocean terrace]

well no, I'm looking for upgrades to my current BBs, but it seems there won't be any till April next year

[rapid shard]

I started like 2 weeks after lion event ended and managed to get quite a few good options fairly soon. Give it a month or 2 and you'll be fine and the top tier meta options will rerun/be dev30

[gray sphinx]

still use her for my mob fleet in opsi till this day

[quasi nymph]

bro my lion is kinda weak , for some reason she deals less dmg then even warspite with same level of gear or even better

[long aspen]

The last part is a reality on our end since we do pen-test on trusted execution environments and applications that stream sensitive information.

"Don't cry because you were caught but actually laugh and be amazed in how secure or unsecure everything is."

[whole crypt]

that's a you problem

[sharp socket]

my BB progression was penny -> hood -> fdg -> soyuz, alsace etc.

[gray sphinx]

damage numbers you see in the charts don't count for the burn dmg

[quasi nymph]

dont know what's wrong with her even after mlb and full enhancement

[remote yarrow]

Today's SR ships are way better than the ones 3+ years ago

[wind hazel]

it's pretty much either fdg or musashi for you as the next big upgrade, until more BB rerun

[strange sphinx]

Maintenence doko?

[stark quiver]

you are doing sth wrong
what gears, against what target, in what scenerio

[viscid swift]

You don't need to be a fucking Rocket scientists to figure that her eHP dooms her

[quasi nymph]

light armor

[south sequoia]

what are you even running

[sharp socket]

nowadays you have things like gold BBs doing better than NJ

[strong tartan]

Daisen says hi

[stark quiver]

isnt it infinite with eld procs

[ocean terrace]

not sure where this perspective came from, I just asked what BBs I can get in the near future compared to what I have

[stark quiver]

solution just use eld

[quasi nymph]

the usual purple he gun on warspite and rainbow he gun on lion

[gray sphinx]

rip NJ even though she's a based ship

[south sequoia]

show your gear loadout for warspite and lion when maint is over, its actually more incredible that your lion somehow does less than warspite

[viscid swift]

At that point just use a better ship period

[viscid swift]

Is Lion max limit broken

[quasi nymph]

yeah even i didnt knew what was wrong with her, at times even my 5 star bismark zwei would outdamage lion

[quasi nymph]

yeah

[south sequoia]

What boss is this for? And when the boss dies does lion get off her last shot?

[ocean terrace]

thought so, and you don't recommend pulling normal banner at all so I guess I'll just have to wait or hope Feb UR is a BB

[sharp socket]

[viscid swift]

Are her skills maxed

[wind hazel]

i never said that lol

[quasi nymph]

bro yeah

[sharp socket]

you could also work on other things than your BB

[viscid swift]

Are you remembering that end screen damage doesn't account her damage over time

[south sequoia]

What boss/stage are you exactly challenging

[wind hazel]

if you have the cubes, you can pull in other event banner. just reserve enough to pity the next UR event

[ocean terrace]

well I assume that's the case no? you only do daily pulls no?

[viscid swift]

Are they the same level

[quasi nymph]

it was more like meta dossier, i was farming for helena meta

[sharp socket]

when i started my biggest challenge was getting a vanguard thats tanky enough for w14 and opsi

[wind hazel]

that only applies if you have low cube counts and there's a new UR event in the horizon

[viscid swift]

Considering how much Helena likes to move

[quasi nymph]

5 lvl diff

[viscid swift]

I'd put that down to hitting rng more than anything else

[ocean terrace]

oh fr? alright well I'll try accumulate some cubes between now and Guam/Laffey II as well as after than then, ty

[hollow gust]

I bet it's all equip.

[sharp socket]

helena meta is a bad meta for damage testing, helmet likes to zoom

[strong tartan]

constellation from that event is also pretty good if ur still looking for something by then

[ocean terrace]

I have that planned already though, Lex II will be a big CV upgrade, Guam and Laffey II for vanguard

[quasi nymph]

btw can bismark's void also trap helena for a little while ?

[viscid swift]

Yes

[gray sphinx]

you definitely don't want to miss guam and laffey II yes

[ocean terrace]

meh, she seems similar to Maryland retro

[quasi nymph]

so the new union fleet would have yorktown 2, lexing 2 and essex in the back line ?

[gray sphinx]

flasher is also during the guam rerun so grab her as well

[sharp socket]

the UR lineups look very good so i dont know why you should have any issues

[ocean terrace]

Kear probably

[stark quiver]

kear mentioned

[quasi nymph]

nah bro i am too much behind on pr researches

stuck on plymouth for 2 months

[ocean terrace]

my only issue is the lack of good BBs available soon, I'm looking forward to Guam/Laffey II though of course

[sharp socket]

should be able to run all the way to w15 if you pick up sashi along the way

[whole crypt]

wait for testing, lion may still outperform kear, but we also don't have a relevant light boss now

[quasi nymph]

musashi still going strong ?

[sharp socket]

of course

[gray sphinx]

very

[viscid swift]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13YbPw3dM2eN6hr3YfVABIK9LVuCWnVZF0Zp2BGOZXc0/edit?gid=0#gid=0

[quasi nymph]

she was kinda broken when first launched

[viscid swift]

Might wanna give that a look

[sharp socket]

one of the ships unlikely to get powercrept for a long time

[viscid swift]

Well she has

[sharp socket]

(don't quote me on this)

[viscid swift]

Just holding on in one niche

[quasi nymph]

i do visit that page once in a week but forget all the details somehow

[verbal plinth]

well if thats all he has its good for aloooong time

[fleet berry]

I have stopped recommending Sashi since at least Soyuz, definitely around Alsace.

[ocean terrace]

best option from pity though for sure

[fleet berry]

I prefer Vanguard then Nano before Sashi.

[rapid shard]

Sashi still one of the best campaign BBs tho and now easily accessible

[gray sphinx]

either musashi or shinano

[ocean terrace]

nano is too hard to gear, for a new player

and IJN ship requirement

[gray sphinx]

ehhhh I mean yes and no

[whole crypt]

honestly I'd recommend Musashi for first perm UR still

[fleet berry]

I'm not looking down on campaign, but people have cleared W14 with worse ships.

[atomic abyss]

CVs are generally harder to gear for a new player lol

[gray sphinx]

BBs always cheaper for sure tho yea

[verbal plinth]

bbs>random boss cv

[rapid shard]

Purple corsair helldiver and cuda are all easily obtainable early on

[ocean terrace]

what I meant lol

[atomic abyss]

Especially shinano which doesn't run a million DBs

[whole crypt]

Musashi can carry you early-mid even without MLB

[atomic abyss]

Musashi is heavily barrage reliant

[eternal moth]

I wouldn't say that. Purple helldiver, hellcat, that's good enough to start

[sharp socket]

musashi for perm UR if you're not getting BBs in gacha, shinano if you are

[atomic abyss]

So a high level barrage skill and at least 1LB will go a long way

[ocean terrace]

yeah I want her bad, but it'll take a while with this event and Guam event

[whole crypt]

just give her a twin410 which is also incredibly easy for a new player

[atomic abyss]

... meanwhile you get the best non UR HE BB guns immediately

[gray sphinx]

well welcome to AL brotha. Everything takes a long time

[ocean terrace]

currently using helldiver, purp hellcat and purp barracudas for all my CVs

[rapid shard]

Only real upgrades for campaign would gold cuda, berguet, gold hellcat (debatable over purple corsair) wyvern and tenrai

[fleet berry]

It's probably just a priority list thingies. Since W12 can be (relatively) easier to clear, I'd rather get a good bossing ships in preparation. I agree that Sashi helps a lot, but personally, I don't rate it that high for that.

[ocean terrace]

if I were to use Musashi in a boss fleet, would I give her Flandre/Champy or is she stuck in mob till I get an AP SE gun (for med+ armor)?

[cobalt robin]

helldiver should just be considered gold gear atp

[whole crypt]

Musashi also can boss though

[fleet berry]

And for bossing, Sashi timing is a bit awkward for me.

[whole crypt]

it's all going to be awkward somewhere regardless

[lofty thistle]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[rapid shard]

Pr7 daisen gun for med/heavy

[fleet berry]

I prefer a very flexible character myself. As in, can be used flexibly for different armour, hence, Vanguard.

[ocean terrace]

so can't do med/heavy with her till I get that gun

[rapid shard]

Its easily obtainable throu protocore

[whole crypt]

VG scales better with stronger ships, and serves as a relatively poor carry compared

[fleet berry]

Eh, Aquila + Sashi are only 'required' for W15, yeah.

[viscid swift]

Vanguard is flexibility but also weak

[ocean terrace]

ah fair enough

[viscid swift]

I'd take multiple SR BBs over her for campaign in a heart beat

[sharp socket]

most BBs are flexible

[fleet berry]

Yeah, am not disputing that.

[sharp socket]

only musash is a little inflexible

[whole crypt]

you get less out of VG than Musashi even with bossing earlier on because VG has nothing to scale on

[lofty thistle]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[viscid swift]

And yeah she's as stable as ever in boss fleets but also scales heavily with what you run with her

[fleet berry]

I gambled on new UR will be ready/released when Vanguard is ready to use anyway. Like I said, that's my logic. Not saying that picking Sashi is bad, but personally, I'd rather get VG first.

[cobalt robin]

who is the best bb for mobbing specifically?

[wind hazel]

musashi or raffaello

[whole crypt]

mobbing where

[cobalt robin]

w15

[viscid swift]

Raffaello and Musashi really

[sharp socket]

BBs can reliably strike all 3 armors but generally their ceiling is not higher than a CV fleet specifically for a certain armor type, or it was supposed to be that way until the devs decided to make a bunch of broken ships that overturn this setup

[viscid swift]

Well

No

[rapid shard]

Lion Meck Zwei out preforming CV fleets tho right?

[viscid swift]

Uh no

[cobalt robin]

my pity is at 376, could get sashi soon tho wont be able to use her at all since i only have 4 bullins

[fleet berry]

Sashi and Lello.

[viscid swift]

Not for this meta fight anyway

[sharp socket]

BB fleets didnt beat IJN CV for heavy for a long time

[wind hazel]

for any new player, musashi+2 will outperform shinano+2, not to mention the time taken to gear the CV across 3 hull, and needing a slow on top

you can do boss way earlier, and way more efficient with musashi

[viscid swift]

No but BBs had a monopoly on light

[sharp socket]

didnt kears yorkii enty be the antilight setup over BBs

[verbal plinth]

+mush has one of the best crossfleets its alot for new players

[viscid swift]

Not before they released

I remember the days of NJ, Fdg and UvH

[verbal plinth]

i remember the rdg only days /s

[fleet berry]

New player shouldn't really put Sashi as a x-fleet support though. She should be used in the main fleet first. X-fleet is a luxury thing.

[verbal plinth]

yes but it helps

[lofty thistle]

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[viscid swift]

Vanguard also can't really carry like Musashi can

[atomic abyss]

Also wait I kinda glossed over it but

Musashi is the recommended perma UR pick now right

Assuming you have none of them

[fleet berry]

I thought that's the community consensus? Hence why I preface my comment with, 'personally'.

[atomic abyss]

I sure hope it is

[rigid onyx]

yeah even though you get a free shinano

[gray sphinx]

I would say yes

[gray sphinx]

that's just icing on the cake yea

[rigid onyx]

just pick musashi 4 times while you spend all your bulins on new URs

[whole crypt]

I recommend holding onto the newbie invite there's no point trying to raise Shinano ahead of Musashi or a newer UR you may have on hand

[ocean terrace]

Musashi > Shinano/Vanguard > York2 or something like that iirc

[wind hazel]

depending on what's the new UR i would even use bulin on musashi lol

[rigid onyx]

i wouldnt use a bulin on a perma ur as a new player ever

better to just save the bulin

[ocean terrace]

ideally yeah, if I had a decent BB at hand

[verbal plinth]

guam and laffey good bulin candidates coming up

[rain bobcat]

prob closer to musashi > shinano/yk2>vanguard now if lexi is good

[wind hazel]

you will get more mileage having a MLB musashi than a MLB guam or laffey2 as a new player

[viscid swift]

Just remember February will bring yet another new UR

[verbal plinth]

true

[ocean terrace]

true, all up to chance really

not a great way to plan it out tho

[rain bobcat]

also 3/4 UR events this year were double right

[wind hazel]

ye

[viscid swift]

the devs also just love their BBs

One will pop up

[ocean terrace]

at least I'll have FDG in a couple months for W13 W14

[viscid swift]

Also Soyuz rerun

[wind hazel]

🫃🏼 another ironblood bb next year

[analog tendon]

How often do they release new UR? Is there a schedule or something?

[viscid swift]

Then Alsace

[cobalt robin]

when was that again?

[ocean terrace]

april

[rapid shard]

vichiya bb trust

[viscid swift]

No clue

[rain bobcat]

feb may sep dec

[rigid onyx]

4 new UR events per year & 4 reruns is fairly consistent
2 to 3 of these new events have a shop UR

[strange olive]

i'm a new ish player i'm level 31 or so, i'm trying to make a maid fleet to handle all those odd jobs they got and maybe a backup fleet for missions, i have a line up but i was wondering if there any tweaks that would make more sense. This fleet isn't suppose to exactly be unstoppable or whatever but i think i cooked pretty well all thing considered. However, if anyone has any suggestions i'm open to them under the conditions, one no blood vanguard because i already have plans for all the vanguard ones and Musashi is going to be part of my main one along with Implacable (i have funny plans with my main), and they have to at least have a maid skin.

vanguard
Charybdis, Curlewkai, and Devonshire

main
indomitable -maid skin, Perseus, and revenge - maid skin.

and then just throw whatever equipment on it, isn't suppose to be a serous idea just like a side project
(was suggested to put it here)

[ocean terrace]

just a bit of an awkward spot for my BB situation but honestly not that bad, just not ideal but I can't ask for too much as a new player

[rapid shard]

Needs a slight update but should be roughly accurate

[viscid swift]

https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/progression-guide

[rigid onyx]

no they want a maid progression guide 💀

[strange olive]

hahah yeah i know i suck

[viscid swift]

You gotta at least understand the basics

[whole crypt]

do you have a basic concept of the gameplay and combat before your ship choices

[strange olive]

yes

[viscid swift]

If you wanna fuck around with weird comps

[strange olive]

they had no problem forcing the tutorials down my throat

[gray sphinx]

Soyuz rerun will be peak cause my ninja skin will finally have a use

[ocean terrace]

also is it safe to assume Lex II is the only ship worth pulling for this event? based off our own knowledge

[rigid onyx]

the hardest part of an account is the first 3 months just be normal for a bit until you unlock 12-4 and then do all the weird comps you want

[whole crypt]

what tutorial, because you're hardly anywhere at lv31

[rapid shard]

Same and for Guams now that its confirmed

[gray sphinx]

Time for a campaign/sub fleet upgrade

[rapid shard]

Definitely want to get her for sure. Never hurts to get the limited ones for tech later as well

[elfin hollow]

pretty likely she will be the "strongest" pull ship

[ocean terrace]

yeah but im being stingy with cubes with guam and feb UR

[verbal plinth]

cowpens might be a decent ssr

[rigid onyx]

cowpens might be decent as an offhealer

[atomic abyss]

It would be extremely strange if an SR topped a gacha UR

[vale spindle]

does anyone know the fleet tech for the new ships please send them all in 1 message that i can copy plz ty

[gray sphinx]

If anything they will give us some free pulls during the Guam rerun

[rigid onyx]

a retrofit elite is the best ship in the game

[ocean terrace]

my question was phrased 'the only ship' as in, if I get her I don't need to pull for others

[atomic abyss]

Yes 100% pull till you get her once

[strange olive]

well the basics, theres alot of cruisers particularly, just read their stats and abilities, just wondering of there is a combo that i missed.

[elfin hollow]

if a ur came out with healing capabilities tho

[verbal plinth]

hope you get cowpens before her then your set

[rigid onyx]

depends on cube count; its realistic in this game to be able to sweep every banner (at least once you're past pulling on reruns)

[rapid shard]

That comes down to collection desire for the rest after getting Lex2. Cowpens would probably be a very solid pickup if you can get her if you lack Volga/Aquila

[ocean terrace]

530 atm, but Guam and Feb UR and then Soyuz rerun so

[rigid onyx]

if you dont have enough for the next (2) UR event pity stop after lexii ig

factoring in cube income per month

[gray sphinx]

Wait I can use big milkers instead of Aquila/volga? SIGN ME UP

[verbal plinth]

needs testing first prob

[rapid shard]

From what my smoothbrain ass seen on her skills shes very very similar. Needs testing first tho

[rigid onyx]

also for events if you want to be super economical you should do 1 (or 3 for the daily mission) pull(s) per day and only roll of the very last day if you're tight on cubes

[gray sphinx]

Just luck sac em. The rates are forgiving enough that you usually don’t need to go to pity to get the UR ship. If you do then you’re probably just really really unlucky

[ocean terrace]

ah well I've decided to pull for her in the first hour
saved up 250k coins for it

[whole crypt]

just a reality check, you're still very early in the game and for most part where you're at you can get past things by overleveling, you can get away with some extent of waifuing but bad ships will need you need more good gear and other good ships to carry

[cobalt robin]

i got that unlucky and pitied unzen

[whole crypt]

generally we would recommend just following the meta first, and you can do whatever you want later when you have a solid basis to go off

[gray sphinx]

My condolences

[rigid onyx]

to sweep a UR banner it takes a mean of 206 cubes and a median of 182

[strange olive]

i know this, tbh im not a wallet warrior but i thought it would be funny to make one so i am working on it

got nothing but time yk

[eternal basalt]

Do note guam is coming 15 january

[ocean terrace]

and Feb UR and Soyuz rerun yes yes

[whole crypt]

this has nothing to do with paying into the game by the way, much of progression just simply needs time and grinding

[rigid onyx]

even whales dont spend money on gacha

[strange olive]

found that out pretty quick when i got the weekly done in a matter of hours XD

[ocean terrace]

are there any noteworthy ships to pull for in Zero to Hero rerun? as an excuse to get Musashi from perma pity lmao

[rigid onyx]

or at least dedicated whales, some people do if they are a whale but dont play regularly

[whole crypt]

fleetpower warriors may need to pay for a bit of gacha, on top of dock space

[wind hazel]

carl is pretty decent, that's about it

💀 main attractions from that event are the skins

[gilded carbon]

and you get tickets to pull with, so you will build pity anyway

[rigid onyx]

fleet power gamers arent human

[strange olive]

ill worry about it when the rewards stop giving jems

[sharp comet]

the fk? why is datamine banned

[gray sphinx]

These days SR events or events that aren’t UR are mainly for collection purposes

[wind hazel]

it has good aux though, RPG tablet very good aux

[ocean terrace]

well DAL ships have carried me thus far, especially the vanguards

[gray sphinx]

We flamed Willy d porter too hard but on the real it’s on the CN side

[eternal basalt]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/From_Zero_to_Hero

It's Anson's event

[gray sphinx]

Well yes you’re a newer player. If you had an abundance of URs you probably wouldn’t be using DAL ships even though they’re really solid to use

[eternal basalt]

Release her for rerun

[strange olive]

im pretty confident that if you saw my fleet that i've been using you'd get an amorism no doubt tho

[gray sphinx]

Or like a bunch of research ships not even UR

[wind hazel]

oh yea it was anson lol

[atomic abyss]

Maybe the datamines were banned cos someone found Anson in the files

(I'm not being serious if it wasn't clear)

[gilded carbon]

i assume you could unlock Neptune from PR1. Wich is a decent-ish Ship

and a Maid

[verbal plinth]

ender go to Cn and find out why easy

[atomic abyss]

I do know why

[whole crypt]

whatever you can throw at us generally the idea is "we've seen worse"
the thing is just how much do you want to progress in the game over just mucking around with maid ships

[atomic abyss]

And anyone who tries hard enough can probably find out why too

[whole crypt]

also it's aneurism

[plain saffron]

Is it because of me

[atomic abyss]

Obviously I can't say why

Not in this case nagami

[plain saffron]

Glad to know it's not me

[uneven barn]

Do we know the kit for Lex II and Willy D?

[verbal plinth]

ehp guy confirmed

[rapid shard]

they got mad over the roasting of willy d

[rigid onyx]

is it rice related

[atomic abyss]

Rice got banned a few days ago

[plain saffron]

I'm blaming ehp guy

[whole crypt]

well rice is rice

[gusty olive]

So... They not gonna patch Willy D now?

[strange olive]

believe it or not im doing both, whenever i happen to pull or when i do the missions for the research it will all happen though time ^^

[atomic abyss]

Rice got banned for being a silly monkey and posting stuff he was explicitly told not to post

[plain saffron]

Patch what, we don't know what she does

[atomic abyss]

What can I say

[verbal plinth]

never were

[gusty olive]

Oof

[whole crypt]

let me guess T15 shit ahead of time

[atomic abyss]

No comment

[cobalt robin]

nuh uh

[gilded carbon]

it speaks for itself

[strange olive]

just fitting to have a maid feet to do things i cant be bothered with- XD

[whole crypt]

they're not mutually exclusive, but you're making progression much harder for yourself if you want to keep your waifuing first

[uneven barn]

Oh shouldn't we get it by now?

[analog tendon]

THAT TYPO THO

[atomic abyss]

Datamines are banned

[onyx flame]

No more datamines allowed

[cobalt robin]

nah no mining while maint

[atomic abyss]

But technically speaking you could go and search the CN sites for their kits and stats already

CN has been up for a while now

[plain saffron]

We know her skills now that it's public in cn. But we don't know if her barrages good or not because game doesn't show it

[whole crypt]

no it's just no mining period
don't risk "knowing" anything that's not UI-visible

[uneven barn]

Ohh shit

[plain saffron]

But we can't talk about it here right?

[atomic abyss]

I really don't want to ban anyone for this

[crimson glacier]

So what did he post that wasn't allowed

[cobalt robin]

well i already know everything but ill act like i dont

[whole crypt]

rice was banned a few days ago so it's not about this datamine

[atomic abyss]

stuff you can see in the CN game

[wispy cosmos]

morktown fleets

[atomic abyss]

Like CGs and character skills and all are fine

[onyx flame]

I know what it was but i not gonna say it

[eternal basalt]

Can we post the descriptions in CN, just the base thing they report - nor perse what it actually does

[gusty olive]

We will make everything shit and you won't know it and can do anything about it ahh energy

[strange olive]

oh well i guess, if im being honest. seeing how no one has shot any ideas im just gonna leave it alone-

[atomic abyss]

The only thing I can say 100% sure isn't allowed from CN would be if they got a hold of barrage numbers

[cobalt robin]

as i understand whatever is in the game already is allowed

[atomic abyss]

Cos i don't think they magically made barrage numbers readable in game yet

[rapid shard]

Time for 🔮

[whole crypt]

well the usual is we ask you to either follow the newbie guides or post what you have and we tell you how to move on, but you're adamant about using maids which basically kicks it for useful new player recommendations

[plain saffron]

So we can share cn link here and discuss that?

[atomic abyss]

I'm surprised no one has already
Like if it's on bili wiki sure

[plain saffron]

Assuming no magic numbers

[cobalt robin]

magic numbers

[charred tapir]

but can I post the girls' silly faces?

[atomic abyss]

As long as it's not very obviously a datamine you'll be fine

[plain saffron]

So you've been waiting to ban someone

[atomic abyss]

Lore already started posting stuff from in game an hour ago

[eternal basalt]

#game-feedback Hey, we need numbers ingame now for no specific reason

[atomic abyss]

I do encourage you to say that

Cos it's honestly very valid feedback

[verbal plinth]

they look there???

[crimson glacier]

What difference does it make

[plain saffron]

Done

[atomic abyss]

They do at the very least look

[strange olive]

nope that isnt what im doing at all, its literally to send on those side missions(im spacing so fricken hard on the correct term) the odds aof it being endgame or whatever isnt the point, and my actual fleet isnt the maid one

[wind hazel]

they havent updated their wiki yet 😭

[verbal plinth]

ban wiki team /s

[atomic abyss]

Clearly bili wiki and koumakan wiki share a few similarities

[cobalt robin]

i hope i never have to exprience grinding 2 events at the same time again, as much as i love atelier, that was too much

[eternal basalt]

[crimson glacier]

Yeah they share this wacky ass game

[vale spindle]

translation of CN data coming shortly ish

[wind hazel]

but at least we got her timer now inb4 someone ask

[rapid shard]

That was my first event and it was so damn confusing

[atomic abyss]

Why would it be different from the other essexes

[vale spindle]

give me the fleet tech plz

[crimson glacier]

Is that hecking Essex timer

[eternal basalt]

5 x 800 was GREAT

[whole crypt]

so can you simplify and restate what you actually need, this channel is happy to help with gameplay issues but we currently have no idea what you're trying to do

[atomic abyss]

Lex II 04:25:00
Cowpens: 02:06:40
CleveMETA: 01:25:00
Pasadena: 01:25:00
Clarence: 00:28:00

I think that's it

I don't trust my Chinese skills

[boreal wagon]

sir those were guessed

[atomic abyss]

Eh

[cobalt robin]

2 banners and 2 events simultaneously was atrocious

[wind hazel]

gimme few mins

[atomic abyss]

Shd be accurate for Lex and Cleve

[eternal basalt]

Isn't Clarence drop-only?

[boreal wagon]

she is point accum

[atomic abyss]

The other elite

[boreal wagon]

do they have them all

[atomic abyss]

...I do have to ask tho

[warped bear]

Nice no reason to be in this server anymore besides shitposting

[rapid shard]

Imagine how painful it was juts starting and having zero idea wtf to do 😂

[atomic abyss]

Is there intentionally a :01

[rain bobcat]

why do ppl even ask for timers

[cobalt robin]

i have some not so legal screenshots

[whole crypt]

bili magical invisible numbers

[wind hazel]

only half

[atomic abyss]

ANYWAYS

[wind hazel]

more than half, cleve left

[boreal wagon]

+/- 2 min is roughly the variance timers have between players and server delay

[gilded carbon]

have you checked up on Neptune?

[atomic abyss]

If you want to share illegal stuff
Do it in DMs

I can't ban you for stuff in DMs

[eternal basalt]

Pasedena, but both are listed there

[atomic abyss]

Unless you're like

[uneven barn]

Man If we know their kits, I wanted to ask fleet comps for both URs

[analog tendon]

I can HEAR this "anyways"

[atomic abyss]

Giving people unsolicited lewds

[gusty olive]

Illegals in my yard

[rain bobcat]

[crisp raven]

if someone (me sometimes) has all of them except 1, doing 1 pull at a time to save cubes/coins is valid. knowing the timer makes it easier than using a quick finisher each time.