gameplay-help

[trail dagger]

mistake were made, took 1 hour plates when other ship face apper, guess i will start taking those other face, thx"

[whole crypt]

should I just XP pack YKM to 120 for the reload

[viscid swift]

meh

there's enough tech coming this update

[whole crypt]

oh nice YKM doesn't have any red skills

[muted wind]

i mean, it's a meta, hardly matters what their skill colors are

[untold sierra]

Hi guys, I'm sorry I keep asking you questions, but I want to ask one more thing: how can I get this Fritz Rume?

[whole crypt]

you wait for her to rerun in another year

[onyx flame]

more like 2027

[whole crypt]

should be early 2027

[untold sierra]

How many times has he come before in pool

[whole crypt]

once in the original event run
rerun happens in roughly a bit after 2 years
permanently added about a year after that

[untold sierra]

Is there no other way? 😭

[muted wind]

nope

[whole crypt]

no

[untold sierra]

Oh ok thanks

[whole crypt]

it's the same cycle basically every event ship has gone through in the past 6 years or so

[muted wind]

much like most other gachas, every new character starts out as limited. azur lane is just... slow with reruns

[whole crypt]

meta wise you don't really miss out very much because of how gameplay works
it's just a bitch if you happen to really like the ship

[onyx flame]

how much of a need is 457 for chp 13 hardmode

[whole crypt]

not at all

[turbid marsh]

pretty sure the purples are still good there lol

[onyx flame]

hmm maybe i give it a go tmr on reset then

[muted wind]

(you mean after maintenance?)

[whole crypt]

the event roster is like 2 main 3 vanguards?
can just slot YKM as 6th ship

[viscid swift]

yes

well, 4 vanguards but I doubt the DD gives great tech

[whole crypt]

she's not coming soon enough unless I bother to farm 10k in day 1 anyway

ah yes classic AL, the run only fails when you're not looking

[undone plover]

i tracked this for pr5 and 6 iirc but idk if i still have the data
was mainly going off memory but yeah lets say it is slower to not set wrong expectations i agree
if I find it i will share what i logged

[heavy zealot]

Dump bullins on musashi or save for whatever UR unit i may get ?

[muted wind]

definitely at least wait for the opinions on the kits tomorrow

[heavy zealot]

Opinions on the kits? What kits :3

[muted wind]

for the new URs that get added tomorrow

[onyx flame]

2 new ur coming lexi2 and willam d porter

[hot oriole]

Uhhh what about these two guns equipped for Raff?

[onyx flame]

[undone plover]

right gun is flandre gun and used similar to champy vs medium and heavy enemies
left i am not sure but i havent seen used for BBs
u use 406mm mk6 purple rarity gun for light armor enemies until NJ/Lion guns

[undone plover]

check QGG https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide

[onyx flame]

its seems kinda tbh

[hot oriole]

So stick with mk6 purple gun for Raff?

[undone plover]

i have heard odin gun mentioned here and there but probably more of a meme atp

[undone plover]

depends who u are fighting
the link I shared explains where u want to use each gun

[heavy crag]

how do you get lots of lv120 limit break chips, im having like 5 6 ships with 200 500k surplus xp

[undone plover]

it is a quick chart u can reference every time u are not sure
not a lot of yapping in the guide

[hot oriole]

I'm using her for mobbing

Hmmm

So I take the mk6

Thank you

[undone plover]

read this
left to right is best to "worst"

[hot oriole]

Alright....

Me learning

[onyx flame]

stock pile from chp 12 farming, dailies and event shop as well as some monethly sources

[hot oriole]

...I have one last question
What about mobbing in OpSi?
Do I still use the mk6?

[undone plover]

"best" ways to get more chips
1- dont waste what u have
2- farm ch12+, x-1 maps more chips/oil so 12-1 better than 12-4 for chips, higher better so 13-1 > 12-1
3- try and not miss your chips commissions especially the overnight ones
4- unholy 1:1 13-1 strategy (havent personally tried it)
5- whale for chips

[undone plover]

i think for opsi twin 457 is better but not sure tbh

opsi mobbing is usually easy enough that anything should work

[hot oriole]

nntktt has mentioned about 457 before

So yeah I'll consider that too

[onyx flame]

ehh you can get away with 406mk6 for opsi mobbing

[hot oriole]

Aight

Thank for the guidance

[mint fable]

So it's just better than its Lab upgrade?

[undone plover]

yeah when I talk about opsi mobbing I usually assume we are talking about stronghold auto which iirc has more medium armor enemies

[whole crypt]

OS is just whatever, you don't even need a BB to mob

[heavy crag]

but having a giant 125 roster looks cool
too cool to not waste them chips

didnt know you can actually like
run out of it

[whole crypt]

just wait till you join the "fast clears without BBs" club

[undone plover]

oh u were talking about arrays
sadly those are very limited
short of whaling for them nothing u can do

[hot oriole]

[cobalt rapids]

theres only 1 whale pack for it

[whole crypt]

the game does not give enough arrays to 125 every ship in the game

[hot oriole]

It's existed?

[whole crypt]

that includes whaling

[undone plover]

did lucky bags also give a bit? and cruise pass? or am I misremembering

[whole crypt]

chips

[heavy crag]

so
uh
shoiuld i just wait

[whole crypt]

wait for what who is that

[undone plover]

yes dont 125 random ships is the advice we can give

[whole crypt]

the priority for cog+ is only for ships you bring to late/endgame
any further is waifu if you have excess

[heavy crag]

oh.... now i notice, it make sense that these fleet tech mission stops at 120 only. also that ship was vanguard

[undone plover]

generally we 125 only the most meta ships and I dont mean META faction
only 125 ships u want for hard boss content/ch15
which is usually the ships

[heavy crag]

well in that case i got like 4 full rows of them, that should be enoug hright

[whole crypt]

4 rows of bad ships at 125 is just 4 rows of bad ships you won't use

[heavy crag]

i mean 4 row of this for those contents

[whole crypt]

it's more of who you have and how you use them, throwing 6 random rainbow ships into a fleet won't be enough

a lot of the ships there are good but you need to know how to make a good fleet out of them

[heavy crag]

to do that you should only check their synergy skills right

[sweet delta]

I don't have enough +13 76

[median prism]

How good is the chapayev gun

[whole crypt]

not bad but if you're thinking of buying one the answer is probably no

[median prism]

Im doing the war archive and been getting a few BPs

[whole crypt]

chances are you won't and shouldn't bother farming enough for 1

[tulip tinsel]

don't farm for gear

[whole crypt]

(with few exceptions)

[safe nexus]

Which gun better for izumo?

[onyx flame]

you can either give her the donskoi gun or the 155

[whole crypt]

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide/#main-fleet-others

[stone sluice]

How many times can I do the meta simulation thing?

[viscid swift]

Infinite

[stone sluice]

[stark quiver]

Did Jp livestream tell us anything new

[wild sinew]

bloody hell this meta fight need momo/kurumi

[weary edge]

who is momo

[wild sinew]

and i dont a single pr8 gun yet

[stark quiver]

A collab ship

[weary edge]

oh rip

[stark quiver]

Then just use la9s

[stark narwhal]

Should I get shinano or new jersey?

[onyx flame]

another purple ship as well as bunch of skins (releasing in 2 phases)

[hollow gust]

Nano from the pass , Musashi from pity

[stark quiver]

What about gear lab and event shop gear?

[onyx flame]

uh not nothing on gearlab and they showcase 1 event plane

[stark quiver]

Watch it be some shit gold plane

[onyx flame]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

but here the plane

[stark quiver]

💀

[stark narwhal]

should I just save her for something else or swap her with enterprise/uni?

[hollow gust]

You preferably only want to use the pity system to limitbreak your permanent UR ships. Musashi has higher priority then shinano so your nano won't have much uses rn

[upbeat wagon]

first of all is she max limit break

[stark narwhal]

nah just got her, both uni and enterprise are though

[upbeat wagon]

then dont use her yet

[heady igloo]

chat should i craft NJ’s gun in the gear lab or wait for the rerun?

[onyx flame]

the rerun is long over

[inland shoal]

NJ gun is rather low prio

[zenith heron]

I hope I am not fooled by this, but is this the first time a UR Event has 3 weeks or just some exceptions?

[heady igloo]

oh what its going once only?😭😭

i thought theyd at least rerun it at least once more or smth

[onyx flame]

al event debut once, rerun once after about 2 year, then another year to be added to perma

[inland shoal]

It's not the first time at all
But for dec UR it's a bit unusual

[onyx flame]

and nj event, herself and her gun are alr in perma so yea its not rerunning ever again

[zenith heron]

Good to know, it is unusual indeed

[wild sinew]

so any chance they add yamato gun in gear lab?

[inland shoal]

Don't see any reason that couldn't happen

[grizzled mortar]

I'm on 13-3 now, but should I plan to take a break from spending excess oil on 13 and do parallel superimposition for YorkII when it gets added to war archives? or is she more likely to be permaUR

[atomic abyss]

Gacha URs have never been farmable so

[grizzled mortar]

aight so best bet is to time travel and tell myself to pick up the game four months before i actually did 😭

[inland shoal]

Just save your perma UR pity for her

[wild sinew]

how ppl farm pr ur gun so fast

what research did they take?

[onyx flame]

Q's

[safe nexus]

thx

[ocean terrace]

does Director's Screenplay have any good use?
(aux from Brighter World event)

[forest palm]

the Spd increase is w/e, if anything it's a worse Toolkit

[ocean terrace]

could it work as a secondary aux for DDs? I think I only have Onigiri for that purpose atm

[forest palm]

if you lack a 2nd Toolkit, sure

[ocean terrace]

wait using 2 toolkits is good?
I assumed you need 1 HP, 1 toolkit

[forest palm]

for DDs? yes

[ocean terrace]

that's nice to know ty

[forest palm]

it's kind of a general sweeping aux combo for DDs

[inland shoal]

I'd argue it's probably better than a 2nd toolkit

But 🤏 and a bit 🎲

[forest palm]

50 less HP, SPD gain is negligible, so you are just gambling on the passive

[onyx flame]

what even is the buff you can get

[inland shoal]

At the start of combat and 30s after, for 30s inflict self with (25% chance each):
DMG dealt +1%
EVA +3%
HIT +3%
Heal 1%

[onyx flame]

damn it really is kinda

[inland shoal]

Yeah especially for a DD Eva and Hit are kinda pointless so you're on a 50/50 for a minor buff

[forest palm]

there are other aux that guarantee a damage buff though

[inland shoal]

There certainly is much better auxes that's not the question

[forest palm]

even still there is more reliable aux if you wanted a damage boost

[stark quiver]

@whole crypt this is much better

the 40s damage reduction really good

[sweet delta]

Every 30

?

[sweet delta]

Why not just 113 gold burn so that you don't need damage reduction

[stark quiver]

i can try
tomorrow

[sweet delta]

Does 40 AA break the run

[stark quiver]

no, but getting shot up by whatnot does

is +10 113 better than +13 100kai

[wooden gale]

👋

[misty tree]

HVARCat in shop after update or just archive?

[viscid swift]

just the War Archive

[barren quarry]

this was the compesation skin for the thing right?

[stark quiver]

so the time has come

[tulip tinsel]

island shitter

[barren quarry]

i c

[ocean terrace]

if I just want coins, is it better to farm 11-4 or 12-1? coin/oil seems decently higher on 11-4, exp/oil is higher on 11-4 too

[onyx flame]

I rather be on 12-1 cause cog chips

Also the better rates are really 🤏

[ocean terrace]

I guess so, alr ty

I'd love to farm 12-4 but I'm too weak to clear 12-3 boss atm so

hopefully Lex II is a campaign sweeping, arbiter destroying, gigacarry CV haha...

[onyx flame]

Just stick to 12-1 then it hella easy to lvl stuff there anyway

[ocean terrace]

oh im asking in case I need more coins to pull tmrw
I'll farm mostly event stages anyway

[stark quiver]

literally just farm
you have 3 weeks to pull

[onyx flame]

Back to w9/10 rates

[ocean terrace]

yeah but I wanna pull her in a day, maybe an hour of release

[undone plover]

12-1 is good enough
try 12-2 if u want more coins
i remember ppl saying the pathing is good on 12-2

[stark quiver]

[undone plover]

but 12-1 should be easier i think

[ocean terrace]

oh I thought farming is exclusive to 12-1 and 12-4

[stark quiver]

no

there are a lot of places to farm in

[undone plover]

some ppl were 12-2 fans cuz of auto pathing sth sth

[ocean terrace]

just wanna get pulling out of the way so I can use my coins on important things

I need like 70k to retrofit Independence and Sandy since I have enough blueprints now

[stark quiver]

i pull first 1 minute of server reopen to banner sweep and and flaunt in #trophy-room

[onyx flame]

I should ge farm 12-3 actually need a copy of junyou

[undone plover]

not having enough coins for the new UR on day 1 is a rite of passage

[stark quiver]

coin shortage
i recently spent 50k on +10 aa radars

[ocean terrace]

feels nice having a reserve though, I'm on 250k coins though it fluctuates due to research costs

[onyx flame]

Im only on 80k rn

[ocean terrace]

2 weeks ago I never saw that number rise above 5k

[stark quiver]

same
i couldnt even do research lmao

[ocean terrace]

I didn't even do research

could have a lot more meck prints by now, oh well

[tulip tinsel]

Why not 1 minute after release

[ocean terrace]

cos I'll spend 250k coins to not pull her, then have to farm till pity

I can see it happening already

[stark quiver]

i start pulling at 15k coins

[tulip tinsel]

that's a weak mentality bro, pull right after release and she comes in first pull, trust the process

[ocean terrace]

I hope so, it'll be my first UR and all

plus I need cubes for Guam and Feb UR

[tulip tinsel]

how much cube u have rn

[ocean terrace]

530

if I hit pity once I'm cooked

[tulip tinsel]

you'll get her in 10 pulls, trust

[stark quiver]

Getting the UR is the least of my concerns

[forest palm]

you either get shop ship curse, or are chasing after the Elite

[ocean terrace]

what's shop ship curse...

[stark quiver]

You pull the shop ship in the banner first and nothing else

[forest palm]

basically bad luck proceeds after

old superstition

[ocean terrace]

wait Willy D is in the banner?

[stark quiver]

The other shop ship

[forest palm]

Cleveland Meta

[ocean terrace]

oh right

[viscid swift]

no, they mean Cleveland META

[ocean terrace]

thought she'd be a milestone ship

[hollow plank]

si twin 410mm naval gun mount same as twin 410mm KAI naval gun mount?

I tried searching it on gear but couldn't see the KAI version. only the twin 410mm naval gun mou nt. Thanks!

[vale spindle]

kai is the upgraded version in gear lab

[sweet delta]

/wiki twin 410mms

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Azur Lane Wiki

Multiple results found

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_410mm_(3rd_Year_Type)
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_410mm_(Type_3_Shell)
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_410mm_(3rd_Year_Type)_Kai
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_410mm_(Mod.A_Prototype)

Dec 17, 2025, 8:29 PM

[hollow plank]

ohhh. i have to upgrade it 😮 gotcha.. thank you.

[vale spindle]

but effectively they are the same thing in practice yes

its like a small damage increase to go to kai vs normal but it's also cheap to upgrade so if you have coins might as well

[hollow plank]

Hello! If i already did the handbook open 90 boxes, is there any reason to not open these just yet? like are there events that increase chance or something? (i just got back in game not too long ago)

or is something worth in those boxes compared to the ones you can only get via crafting that I should be looking out for and just disassemble the rest?

I don't have much depot space but don't ahve any gear at all either so i'm hoping there's something actually good in the boxes worth using. Most of what I saw in the quick gear guide comes from gear lab T_T

also, do ships actually need items from their boxes for example if it is a sakura box, it would benefit sakura ships soley or not necessarily? Thanks a bunch!

[cobalt robin]

Only reason to not open would be for new gear (if they ever add those to the tech box pool)

[hollow plank]

does that usually happen? Should i keep like half then? 😮

[cobalt robin]

I don't know if that has ever happened before

[rain vine]

there arent any events that increase chances of getting stuff from equipment boxes
the low end of the quick gear guide should have gear that you can get from those gold tech boxes

[sweet delta]

Same faction gear gives no benefit to most ships

You should open them all, and for more depot space you can equip gear on ships

[rain vine]

/equip can start scrapping stuff based on the safe to scrap list once you get better things

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Equipment Guides and Tier Lists

🔹 Equipment picture guide by samheart564
🔹 Full details on equipment statistics
🔹 List of equipment safe to scrap by thebombzen
🔹 Augment modules guide

use /tierlist for list of ships TLs and guides
use /guide for list of other gameplay guides and FAQs

[hollow plank]

ahhh. thank you! didn't think of equipping gear on not usable ships. i might do that also if i'm sitll unsure or haven't gone throuhg the whole safe to scrap list.

and gotcha on the no events that increase chance.

lastly, for the low end of the quick gear guide, do you mean liek the "4th best" section? Thanks!

[cobalt robin]

The good gold gear you can get from the boxes are gold catapult, triple 155kai, quad magnetic torps (and some more I can't remember on top of my head)

[rain vine]

gold hellcat from union

[cobalt robin]

Wait was it quad mag torps or quin in the boxes?

[rain vine]

both

[cobalt robin]

Damn

Quads are better tho

[hollow plank]

Thank you! all these definitely help me. thank you so much all for always helping out new or returning people ❤️

Okay, I'll get to opening then. wish me luck lmao.

[valid forge]

where i can read data texts from operation siren?

[undone plover]

wdym data texts?

[tulip tinsel]

prob guides or stuff

[valid forge]

i mean texts that you find in zones

[forest palm]

Secret Files

this probably
#gameplay-help message

[undone plover]

yeah they are asking where to read them
Idk tbh sry

[valid forge]

yeah, these

[undone plover]

if u collected them they should be in your archives

memory maybe? idk if other sources exist online

[forest palm]

you can find it in the ops overview menu

the Collection Button

[valid forge]

okay
thank you

[daring oracle]

or

[paper timber]

What is the comp for York META fight?

[valid forge]

also

[daring oracle]

then go to archives/records

[viscid swift]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMZgy9GoGss&t=205s

[valid forge]

Just finished part 1, who i should go for?

[tulip tinsel]

jintsuu for pvp, others for tech

[valid forge]

okay

[hollow plank]

hello! for he main gun and second gun, like for Tohka for example if i already have one eugen gun equipped on her, is it okay to equip a second one for the 2nd gun slot another eugen gun? or does it always need to be 2 differnet type of guns? thank you!

[viscid swift]

what

you can't equip CA guns in her aux gun slot

[hollow plank]

is the aux gun slot the secondary gun?

[viscid swift]

yes

[hollow plank]

ohhh 😮 from the gear guide, which one here are for the secdondary guns then? :OThank you!

[ivory pawn]

Look at the DD guns for her secondary gun options.

[hollow plank]

Thanks! now I know what the when appropriate means. LOL. Thank you

[analog tendon]

I thought META ships were considered their own faction. Do they give tech points to their "original" faction?

[ivory pawn]

Not for tech points, but for tech bonuses. They still give +HIT, +RLD, +FP, etc after reaching 120 like other ships.

[tulip tinsel]

stats not that tech

[analog tendon]

got it, forgot about the 120 bonuses

btw, is this still accurate? https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Thebombzen/Safe_To_Scrap_MK_II

[viscid swift]

yes

[daring oracle]

what makes meckleburg so g good for meta showdown ?

[rain vine]

damage

[daring oracle]

is that it? No buffs or anything just raw dmg?

[cobalt robin]

was 5h D better than 2.5h? i forgor

[stark quiver]

no

[ivory pawn]

The benefit is not needing to RNG your way into a second 2.5h D if its one you want.

[rain bobcat]

10% dmg buff

[simple nacelle]

Best exchange here?

I already have Shinano

[north gorge]

Musashi

[abstract ore]

Between raffaelo, i 404, and hakuhou, which one should i prioritize limit breaking

[reef flume]

Haku Imo

[viscid swift]

wait, we have 2 new URs dropping tonight/tomorrow

[reef flume]

Soon I'll get my 2nd Mecklen gun, do you think Flandre gun might be a better option to sync it? Cuz Champy gun after 2 salvos pretty much desyncs

Like, would it be worth it?

[hollow gust]

The priority is Musashi, even then you want to keep getting more Musashi

[undone plover]

if u cant achieve a full 4 salvo with champy then flan is worth using yes

[median prism]

Im tryna get chapayev herself and the guns are just like a side quest

[whole crypt]

just buy one from core shop (much) later when you have excess cores

[median prism]

But at the same time i dont have good CL guns...

[viscid swift]

the Twin 150mm tksb is will serve fine

and if you really want an ugrade get some 155 kais from the gear lab

[median prism]

My best is the one from the fools scales event

[whole crypt]

which is better than chapayev gun

[stark quiver]

whats wrong with that

[median prism]

I only got one

[ocean terrace]

I've thought about the protocore shop and realised you don't need that many protocores no? if I get 3k from coining 1 DR, are there any good purchases/high prio pickups after white shells, black shell, independence, breguet, drake and maybe blackburn firecrest?
Might as well use coinable BPs after like 1 maybe 2 ships of blueprints.

[whole crypt]

we all only have one

[viscid swift]

I have 2

[whole crypt]

wait did it rerun?

[knotty jolt]

ye

[viscid swift]

yes....

[stark quiver]

i also have 2

[whole crypt]

right

[knotty jolt]

Me here aswell 2 in depot

[wind hazel]

you're mixing up protocore and core data

[stark quiver]

right, you dont need protocore to buy stuff from core data

[ocean terrace]

shiiiiit nevermind

I deserve to hit pity on Lex II after that one

[whole crypt]

regardless this is fine for CLs for most part

[stark quiver]

hitting and getting close to pity is pretty normal

[wind hazel]

is it though

[ocean terrace]

are you saying that punishment isn't bad enough for my mistake

[forest palm]

isn't the player average around 100 ~ 150

[stark quiver]

100 is light

[forest palm]

there's a chart somewhere

[stark quiver]

a chart based on small data set

[wind hazel]

maths say it's less than 100

[eternal moth]

100 pulls, 200 cubes

[stark quiver]

yeah i know

[eternal moth]

I think the math says 95% chance to hit at 100, something like that

[wind hazel]

have you been playing with lv15 btw

[stark quiver]

hm?

[ocean terrace]

what's the usual drop rate for coins in event stages?

[wind hazel]

yk meta lv15

[whole crypt]

what is this, UR chance?

[stark quiver]

what about her? Have i done it?

[forest palm]

about equal to 10-3

[rapid shard]

I thought it was closer to 9-1/4

[wind hazel]

have you found your consistent 1shot fleet

[stark quiver]

my yorktown is level 8

[ocean terrace]

well I assume it's D3 you'd be farming

[wind hazel]

nvm n00b gg

[forest palm]

that's for small events like SP

[stark quiver]

im not gonna bother with this meta
takes too much thinking and leveling randoms

[whole crypt]

at 1.2% rate 100 pulls (200 cubes) is 29.9% chance of not getting UR

[wind hazel]

📠

[eternal moth]

You don't need to level randos, just brute force it

[forest palm]

large scale events, D-3 scales to 10-3 rewards with 11-1 oil cap

[knotty jolt]

Metas in the past all i did was spam SOS and never actually fought them myself, I just let others do it till i reached max I was a lazy sack of shit

[rapid shard]

If I can 2 shot easily you should definitely be able to 1 shot it

[eternal moth]

I might end up going with Helena, we'll see what happens. I'd rather not if I can help it.

[viscid swift]

friendly reminder to do your dailies during the event

[stark quiver]

im probably able
but lion n friends are on PvP duty so im not gonna worry

[forest palm]

Helena is simple

[wind hazel]

3 weeks event, can slack easy

[whole crypt]

did they announce guam date on stream or what

[viscid swift]

I tried that, wasn't really feasible without Helena

[wind hazel]

is it even feasible with helena

[viscid swift]

but a level 109 Momo and Laffey 2 and it was pretty easily overkilling

[ocean terrace]

what is this, total coins you earn?

[stark quiver]

dont you also have max tech and many +13s

[viscid swift]

#trophy-room message

[stark quiver]

event points
coins is based off how much you grind

[eternal moth]

Did you use CVs?

[viscid swift]

event points you can get just by doing your dailies

[ocean terrace]

so it's referring to usual daily missions or special event dailies?

[stark quiver]

wait cheekman you have 2 +13 meck guns?

[stark quiver]

daily missions + first time clear + sp i nthink

[wind hazel]

which loadout are you running on nak and fritz?

[eternal moth]

Which CVs, Amagi/Hakuhou/Imp?

[stark quiver]

lol i have one +10

[viscid swift]

4 +13 La-9s

[wind hazel]

the aux?

[stark quiver]

wehat the fucvk

[viscid swift]

double catapults, 42 CV reload though max is far from necessary

Soyuz with Raff gun, double shells and 0 BB reload tech

Trafalgar was the other vanguard

[wind hazel]

same setup, been trying that, not really 100% kill rate for me

[stark quiver]

skill issue

[viscid swift]

you set BB reload tech to 0?

[wind hazel]

yeah

[viscid swift]

tech difference potentially

[stark quiver]

I traded +13 la9 for this

[wind hazel]

AA tech

[forest palm]

filth...

[wind hazel]

maybe vanguard difference. been using kurumi, i'll try lafii momo

was using kurumi momo

[whole crypt]

for CV fleets Laffey II might be better anyway

[wind hazel]

but shouldnt kurumi be better...

[viscid swift]

that's my timing

[whole crypt]

based on 🍣

[stark quiver]

You guys have kurumi up?

[viscid swift]

getting her there

[wind hazel]

same same, maybe it's really vanguard difference

[stark quiver]

More aa to conceal?

[viscid swift]

I'd guess an AA difference

[wind hazel]

yeah maybe

[stark quiver]

I was gonna level kurumi but I forgot her skin 😭

[viscid swift]

meh, Dynamic skins are shit anyway

[wind hazel]

-# i bought it with f2p gem

[stark quiver]

I don’t PvP without skins

[stark quiver]

Smh

[ocean terrace]

meh, her base skin is nice anyway

[simple nacelle]

For limit break, right?

[viscid swift]

yes

[stone sluice]

When is it?

[viscid swift]

read my name

[ocean terrace]

what dictates the name you choose, cos last time it was DAL event during the actual event, why not Lexy event this time?

[eternal moth]

Future info

[viscid swift]

if I can be bothered to change and if there's anything noteworthy to inform people about

[ocean terrace]

fair enough

[whole crypt]

the cheeky noticeboard

[atomic solstice]

are there two napoli guns?

[wind hazel]

think so yes

one CA one CL

[atomic solstice]

weird

[viscid swift]

not really

254 is her primary armament, 152 forms part of her secondary battery

[atomic solstice]

oh thats neat actually

[forest palm]

still questioning why they made Drake hold a Torpedo Mount

[viscid swift]

because Napoli in WoWs is renowned in part for her powerful secondary battery

Drake really isn't

or most cruisers for that matter

[whole crypt]

what was drake known for in wows anyway

[forest palm]

what really bothers me is that they put her secondary battery in the game even though she can't use it

[viscid swift]

decently tanky, super heal, fuck you HE that ignored most plating in the game

[whole crypt]

right so it was fairly reasonably depicted in AL, just not very well translated in gameplay

[viscid swift]

yep

[forest palm]

when her main battery is more relevant than she is

[viscid swift]

that can be said for most of the PR ships really

[sweet delta]

Super heal for 2% of her HP

[whole crypt]

ships move on faster than gear does yes

[frosty oriole]

Hello all. Playing the meta challenge. Wondering what this debuff means? What's the game's definition of an allied unit? And how does it stack 12 times when there is only 6 ships in the fleet?

[wind hazel]

summon units count towards allied unit

[undone plover]

But hard mode doesnt have 3x cheeky
Only on reruns
Or am I reading this wrong

[viscid swift]

Fuck, knew I messed up the numbers somewhere

[undone plover]

Yeah u used hard mode tokens for easy

Should be 30 40 50 60 70 80 iirc

It will still be good cause 21 days is a lot
Potentially around 50k I think

[frosty oriole]

Ahh. I see. So I need ships that summons objects, right?

[hollow plank]

in how many hours is the update or event? will ther be a new maintenance? 😮 thanks! XD

[ocean terrace]

6 hours till maintenance

[frosty oriole]

Awesome. Thanks @wind hazel

[cobalt robin]

good thing i picked 2.5h D

[south sequoia]

Is yorkmeta level 15 yet or nah

[elfin hollow]

Hi guys, so my thing says im missing 28 ships, but you can see I only have 26 missing, who are the hidden 2 ships?

[wind hazel]

simulation lv15

[viscid swift]

retrofits

[viscid swift]

and no they won't show up even if you have them filtered by unobtained

turn it off and see which ones are greyed out

[elfin hollow]

oooh i see thnkx

[agile patrol]

can i level up a specific ship faster if i use only them in their vanguard/main fleet slot? or is that inefficient?

i.e i want to level up a specific main fleet ship, can i like.. put only them in the main fleet? does that give them more xp?

[atomic solstice]

the flagship gets more exp, but dont put only 1 ship in

[mint flint]

it gives the same amount of xp, you might get the mvp bonus but it isnt worth doing

just use a whole fleet

[viscid swift]

what

[weary gust]

Oil cap = free exp for every ship that puts you past the oilcap. Never run not full fleets while farming.

[viscid swift]

no, that's now how XP distribution works

[hollow plank]

how do you get to this page? 😮 thanks!

[elfin hollow]

on the lobby, u gotta tap the small box in the bottom rigth that has two arrows diagonally (next to "Formation") it will show different options, tap the one that says "Memento"

There is some rewards for finishing certain collections if you havent collected already

[cobalt robin]

and then archives

filter to unacquired to see all ships you dont own

[hollow plank]

ahh hth anks lokoloa and sorey!

[cobalt robin]

i almost had a stroke trying to read that

[true zenith]

how does the coin cap work?

how am i seeing so many people that exceed it

[ocean terrace]

can't collect from munition if past soft cap, hard cap is 600k where u cant gain from battles or any source

[true zenith]

oh, so i can farm up to 600k coins from battling (like 12-4)?

[cobalt robin]

you can go over the base coin cap but cant collect coin from the merchant, hard cap is 600k tho

[true zenith]

thanks!

[weary gust]

Mmm. I love story dialogue that says my choice is important and will affect the ending and my options are in Chinese.

[wind hazel]

just learn chinese

[cobalt robin]

also its completely unrelated but does anyone why everyone was eating rice in the jp stream, couldnt continue watching cause of work

[verbal plinth]

collab

[weary gust]

a rice collab?

[cobalt robin]

rice collab?

[verbal plinth]

yes its jp

[ocean terrace]

sponsorship maybe?

[cobalt robin]

collab with actual rice??

[verbal plinth]

rice farmer

[cobalt robin]

😭 what is going on

[verbal plinth]

they had a whole thing in jp anni

[cobalt robin]

thats crazy, i love rice but thats another level 😭

[verbal plinth]

? you dont know how big rice is in jp

[ocean terrace]

idk if he's being sarcastic or not

[cobalt robin]

im asian so ik how big rice among us is but still 😭

[cobalt robin]

same 😭

[verbal plinth]

no im serious lol

[ocean terrace]

how can you collab with... rice

[verbal plinth]

a rice farmer

like they are with a onsen theres merch and rice

[ocean terrace]

you mean they got sponsored by a rice company no?

[cobalt robin]

he wasnt lying 😭

[verbal plinth]

see

[ocean terrace]

what the fuck

is that why nakhimov has a farmer skin or is that unrelated

[viscid swift]

that was another unrelated collab

[cobalt robin]

i wonder if that rice tastes better than my basmati rice

[weary gust]

Probably should go to #al-general about now.

[atomic solstice]

basmati > all

[cobalt robin]

a man of culture

[atomic solstice]

indians know their shit

[tidal meteor]

Or #food

datamine waiting room

[ocean terrace]

where do you find these channels cos I can't see them

[fluid merlin]

When is maintainence again

[ocean terrace]

5 hours (4 hours 40 mins)

[jolly condor]

😭they needa rerun yorktown II

[ocean terrace]

they have already, she's being added permanently this maintenance

[jolly condor]

FR???

[cobalt robin]

good thing im close to pity

[ocean terrace]

yuh you can get her from pity and normal banner

[cobalt robin]

yea she was next in line to be added to perma pool

[tidal meteor]

You need to find them under Channels & Roles I believe

[ocean terrace]

her event is also getting archived

[jolly condor]

😭now i have to chose between the banners

[cobalt robin]

you should 100% pull on event instead

[ocean terrace]

shouldn't really be pulling on normal banner, other than daily lights

[jolly condor]

i was going to

[cobalt robin]

never pull on perma banners beside doing the daily pull

[jolly condor]

but at least i won’t regret buying her skin when i dont have her

[cobalt robin]

now i gotta pick between musashi and yorky

[opal mauve]

Eh, you always can wait wishing pool on May (although I think you'll have 200 crafts already at this point)

[whole crypt]

once they go into perm they don't go away just take your time with it so event first

even your daily builds outside of event pool count for it

[jolly condor]

yea ik i have 300 cubes ready for then banner in the morning

[cobalt robin]

non ur events count towards your pity iirc

[whole crypt]

300 isn't enough to pity but there's enough time for 100 more in 3 weeks

[ocean terrace]

sashi is a lot higher in terms of prio though iirc, but you're a vet so ig it doesn't matter much

[opal mauve]

yamatogun not in shop yet?

[viscid swift]

No

[cobalt robin]

ik but yorki wife

[ocean terrace]

your name speaks for itself

[cobalt robin]

im not a vet i started in april 😭

[atomic solstice]

based

[ocean terrace]

oh fr? you've been in the server for a while so I assumed lol

[atomic solstice]

true skk win with their favorites

[cobalt robin]

i played for just a bit back in 2019, oathed enty and left (only reason i started the game really)

[tidal meteor]

Fast learner then

[cobalt robin]

came back this april was like w5 iirl so basically started in april

[ocean terrace]

so you're like me, played for 3 days, oathed Eugen back in 2021 and left (came back Nov 20th this year)

[cobalt robin]

yea pretty much lol

[opal mauve]

[cobalt robin]

i kinda speedran my way to 15-3

[cobalt robin]

go away scammer

[atomic solstice]

Im sad I missed lion event while I was gone

my dps will never recover

[cobalt robin]

rip 😔 🙏 just gotta wait 1.5 year for rerun

[whole crypt]

I started in 2017, oathed Renown and never left

[vale spindle]

It will after this event pushes carrier supremacy harder

[atomic solstice]

what carrier supremacy

[cobalt robin]

luckily i got lion but couldnt get enough points for traf 😔

[opal mauve]

eh, you read skills already?

[ocean terrace]

yes Lexy II will powercreep Lion

[whole crypt]

it's called copium

[cobalt robin]

[whole crypt]

unless Lex II makes some supercombo with Yorktown II and Retrosex or something

[cobalt robin]

lion will keeps her throne but cv fleets will get buffs

[verbal plinth]

more options = good imo

[whole crypt]

it's hard to beat BB now between Lion and Meck

[cobalt robin]

it is good, i also dont want bbs to dominate everything

[ocean terrace]

problem with CV fleets are that you need certain compositions with specific planes to be good at 1 armor type right? and even then you get outclassed by top BBs

[viscid swift]

Given the track record of BBs vs CVs I doubt it

[whole crypt]

gearing CVs is more complicated than BBs that's for sure

[cobalt robin]

i just hope they make cv fleets less aids to run

doesnt need to win against bbs for all i care

[ocean terrace]

right and the reward of that isn't even better than top BBs

[verbal plinth]

instead of 1 +13 vs need 2+ is kinda ehh

[viscid swift]

Well no

[whole crypt]

it's possible for gimmicks to favour CVs but not the current META it seems, and even for cases where it does it's possible for BBs to brute force

[viscid swift]

Nahkimov and Fritz is what I settled on for this META showdown for instance

[ocean terrace]

I assume the right CV fleet of La9s is better than the best BB comp for medium?

but then you'd need plenty of +13 La9s or wtvr

[whole crypt]

also you definitely can't rely on BBs alone for late campaign where 14/15 are still relevant

[ocean terrace]

oh right AA

[cobalt robin]

flappys go

[whole crypt]

what's the reliability like compared to BB brute force

[viscid swift]

I couldn't brute force with BBs without Helena

[wind hazel]

sussy, lexII

[viscid swift]

Granted I didn't have Kurumi up to level

[viscid swift]

Give me a few minutes to check of CN datamine is up

[wind hazel]

usual one not up yet

[ocean terrace]

oh we're about to get datamine already?

[rain bobcat]

the rocket barrage is basically copy paste yk2

[tidal meteor]

Now does the Corsair have based Tiny Tim rockets or cringe 500lb bombs

[wind hazel]

they cooking rn

[viscid swift]

Do I even wanna know your source

[wind hazel]

this dude

[knotty jolt]

[whole crypt]

just wait for #

[rain bobcat]

if that's real, the loadout is kinda mid

[viscid swift]

this says it was posted 7 hours ago

[cobalt robin]

ill translate this with my middle school mandarin

[wind hazel]

was it yorktown2 LMAO

[tidal meteor]

Lmao so it came to them in a dream

[boreal wagon]

-# we dont even have a patch yet let alone 7 hours ago

[cobalt robin]

i cant 😔

[whole crypt]

again, just wait for #

[wind hazel]

lul

fuck i cant type lul and #

[tidal meteor]

Mori spreading misinformation smh

[rain bobcat]

it's just hour and ago

[whole crypt]

Lex2 practical analysis conclusion
the rest of it is that info that came to him in a dream unless it's a leak

# is our lord and saviour

[tidal meteor]

Who is #

[whole crypt]

jinghao

[cobalt robin]

[whole crypt]

current CN dataminer/tierlist guy

[viscid swift]

still too early anyway

[whole crypt]

jinghao literally means hash sign

[cobalt robin]

thats why the # lol

[viscid swift]

just be patient

[cobalt robin]

isnt it more like warning or sum

[whole crypt]

not that jing

his chinese handle is 井号

[cobalt robin]

ah so basically hashtag

[floral stirrup]

Who do i focus on pr ship and what season?

[viscid swift]

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/research-focus

[floral stirrup]

What do i buy from cores?

[daring oracle]

for what it says aboutone of the drs of season 7 im assuming its admiral Nakhimov right>

[cobalt robin]

focus should be pr8 as the guide tells you, do you have any pr/dr ships?

[floral stirrup]

I have 1.5k

[floral stirrup]

I just got my first pr monarch

[cobalt robin]

pr8 Drs are more flexible and nakhi needs soyuz

[daring oracle]

lowkey havent been focusing on pr8 currently

[floral stirrup]

Then i should not pick a focus ship from academy?

[cobalt robin]

catch up is seperate from focus

[daring oracle]

Is it worth focusing pr5 for dev 30 plymouth I have at dev 22

[viscid swift]

she's gonna get coining soon

[daring oracle]

thats good then

ill prob steer toward pr 7 then I have like no bps for pr 8 rn

[cobalt robin]

focus gives you gear and ship prints for the respective series, while catch gives you prints for that ship even if you only pick Rigging researches (Q) 150 prints for each DR and 300 prints for each series

[cobalt robin]

you can start working towards fdg if you have enough tech points

[floral stirrup]

Sadly i dont have enough tech points for all except season 1 currently lol

[ocean terrace]

do we know how many event points we should aim for this event?

[rain vine]

no, but itll probably be 55k as always

[verbal plinth]

most events 55k

[cobalt robin]

how much do you need?

[ocean terrace]

probably a very specific question and not one that needs to be answered, but how much oil does it take to reach that usually

[sweet delta]

Lex2 stats leaked?

[verbal plinth]

prob depends if you want a 2nd copy of willie and how many that takes

[floral stirrup]

154/630 for blood

[daring oracle]

I swear I saw the math for this like 30 minutes ago

[rain vine]

no idea, depends on oil cap

[floral stirrup]

I have more sakura than blood ships lol

[verbal plinth]

iron blood is rare for new players

[daring oracle]

true

[cobalt robin]

thats a lot still, roon gives ib tech ig?

[floral stirrup]

Previous even are more on sakura folks

[daring oracle]

roon is a pr so

[ocean terrace]

yur usually go Roon to FDG to Agir/AvP to help with IB tech

[floral stirrup]

She does i think

[cobalt robin]

any pr1 is fine really, roon just helps with the ib tech

[rain vine]

if you want ib tech you just run divergent chessboard in war archives

[floral stirrup]

I'm focusing on her next after monarch, i dont know if thats alright

[ocean terrace]

meh but for a new player there are better things to farm usually

[cobalt robin]

though id put achorage above agir rn

[ocean terrace]

meant specifically IB tech route

with this USS event, I should hopefully have enough USS tech for Anchorage

[cobalt robin]

you can but its not a rush

[floral stirrup]

Yes correct

[soft raft]

If you're not at at least W9 yet I wouldnt bother too much with research

[cobalt robin]

yea you might get to anchorage sooner than fdg or avp

[hollow needle]

so I'm trying to build CV fleet with Hakuhou, Amagi (CV) & implacable for opsi/arbiter but who should launch first here? Implacable? Still don't really understand how to make 3 CV fleet work for boss content

[cobalt robin]

this too

[sweet delta]

This is inference on the stream

[floral stirrup]

Another question, what do i buy from core?

I have 1.9k

[atomic solstice]

implacable should be second to launch

[soft raft]

Protocore or Core data?

[floral stirrup]

Core data

[soft raft]

/coredata

[odd root]

https://www.azurlaneecgc.com/images/equip_misc/Core_Data_Priority.jpeg

[sweet delta]

Implacable second, and the others within 0.7s by the last strike. So if you go 4 strikes then the reload difference should be within 0.17

[cobalt robin]

3 white and 2 black shells, Independence is a top cv for campaign and then its mostly couple of breguets and sub gear later on

[daring oracle]

im so disappointed in myself for missing both mushi guns and lion's gun

[cobalt robin]

😭

[ocean terrace]

how good is indep for opsi?

[tidal meteor]

Lion's gun understandable, but mushi gun is niche anyways

[rain vine]

well, if it makes you feel any better, musashi gun isnt that great

[cobalt robin]

if for mob fleet then id say good

[hollow needle]

Ah the gap are around 0.7 second got it , can you help me with the their gear loadout? I did try to randomly make loadout for them but idk who go first and it's kinda give me headache unlike BB timing

[ocean terrace]

strongholds/abyssals?

[sweet delta]

/calc input your CV reload tech and cats

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Calculator for precise fleet reload times by mrlar

[sweet delta]

And look at Sync View

[whole crypt]

you can buy second copy of WDP at 55k but you'll have to give up some other shit in shop

[daring oracle]

I played during the entirety of both mushi events and played during the last 3 days of lions event

[cobalt robin]

shes very good for campaign, less for single bosses

[daring oracle]

just forgot to farm stages

[ocean terrace]

I'm wondering whether I should get a Breguet or save for Indep, with Lexy II coming up

[whole crypt]

personally I always do at least 70k for the books and practically over 100k for almost every UR event out of habit

[cobalt robin]

she is not a must if you already have strong cvs

[ocean terrace]

current CVs being Enty, Origami and Saratoga (who'd get replaced by Indep)

and depending on how good Willy D is, I could mlb Shinano this month too

that'd make up for a pretty decent CV fleet I think

[viscid swift]

well you have Guam and Laffey 2 rerunning next month

and Shinano really wants 2 other IJN ships

[ocean terrace]

true I feel like DAL vanguards really outshine my main fleet tho

[soft raft]

Oh shit that was confirmed already?

[viscid swift]

and Zero to Hero rerun

[cobalt robin]

not sure how good origami is but indy and lexi II should both be better

[sweet delta]

Less yapping more waiting

[ocean terrace]

like Tohka and Yamai twins end up out damaging anyone on my main fleet

unless Enty gets lucky or Kotori hits everything (occasional)

[cobalt robin]

gotta wait faster 😔

[soft raft]

ngl a majority of this is likely because your vanguard kills the enemy mobs too fast before your backline salvos/airstrikes are ready

Esp when airstrikes still have travel time before dumping their payload

[verbal plinth]

at least new selector has a chance to get ib tech

[whole crypt]

CN maint is 10am to 4pm, I wouldn't expect preDL too early

[ocean terrace]

includes bosses too though (meta and opsi)

main fleet should ideally have way more damage than vanguard but sometimes doesn't + my main fleet gets cooked in campaign right now over vanguard

[cobalt robin]

your main fleet might be equipped with water guns and paper planes

[ocean terrace]

I did my best with qgg purple gear

[cobalt robin]

is it planes that cook your main ships?

[ocean terrace]

yeah and my BBs are mediocre at best anyway (Kotori and Maryland retro)

[daring oracle]

anyone have a reliable Yorktown meta 2 shot

[ocean terrace]

which is why I'm thinking, if I get Lex II, retrofit both Sandy and Indep, I could probably get through W13 and W14

[viscid swift]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMZgy9GoGss&t=3s

[ivory sigil]

[cobalt robin]

didnt you have sashi? or was it someone else

[ocean terrace]

and Shinano isn't necessary I guess, but nice to have for a CV fleet, though I guess I should wait for Guam and Laffey II

[cobalt robin]

must have been someone else with car pfp

[daring oracle]

Im missing momo, trfalgar, meckle, and dev 30 plymouth and my kurumi is like lvl 99

[cobalt robin]

she really needs to be fellow ijn ships

[viscid swift]

I think that is what we in the industry call fucked

[wind hazel]

Laffey2 helena

[cobalt robin]

well lexi II and indy would def be upgrade to saratoga and origami

[wind hazel]

No laffey? Then just helena+best ships

[daring oracle]

also missing nhakimov and fritz rumey

[ocean terrace]

haven't even retrofitted Saratoga cos I want Indep retro asap

[cobalt robin]

then id say get indy cause she is even better now due to UA

[ocean terrace]

so Breguet isn't THAT much better

I also don't have 3 white shells (have 2 atm) but honestly I won't get any good BBs anytime soon so

[cobalt robin]

not sure how much better breguets were to commonly gold fighter like beracuda

[wind hazel]

Better AA at the very least

[cobalt robin]

wait not fighter im stupid

[viscid swift]

it reloads like 2 seconds faster and has the ability to passively intercept

[soft raft]

It's the only other TB besides Wyvern that can passive intercept

[ocean terrace]

probably rng but how long would it take to get 6 UR plane plans

[viscid swift]

2 months max

[cobalt robin]

average 2 months

[ocean terrace]

then I'd get Wyvern within that time I guess, think I could push far with Indep over a single Breguet anyway

[cobalt robin]

you still want wyvern + breguet only for later chapters so you should get breguets

you can also pray for 3x core data 🙏

[tidal meteor]

Still no datamine

[forest palm]

you get a free Blank for all those Blue Loggers in the Voucher shop btw

[cobalt robin]

true

[ocean terrace]

I have 3 blanks, not sure where I got them from

[cobalt robin]

maybe got lucky

[ocean terrace]

I have like 2k vouchers to spend cos I barely finished CH4 of opsi by reset

had 2k*

[cobalt robin]

no rush those loggers are a one time purchase anyway

[ocean terrace]

one time purchase monthly no?

[south sequoia]

Did cn begin datamine already

[cobalt robin]

one time purchase for ever, sadly

everything else resets each month

[slate blade]

What buff/effect director's screenplay gives after all?

[cobalt robin]

im talking abt these

[ocean terrace]

one time permanently? damn alr

[cobalt robin]

these give a ur plan at the end

[ocean terrace]

each or after all of them

[ivory sigil]

-# (forgot to address about the Flandre outfit you pinged me yesterday... I prefer her OG more)
I only buy Yoshino outfit skin as a honeymoon dress. Her outfit doesnt make much different

Most other DAL fleet had their outfit better than their bikini ver.
Especially KOTORI, even if i buy her skin i would still use OG skin

Yamai sis probably the only exception for having a good skin + chibi interaction in Dorm #game-news message i regret not buying..... 🙁

idk about Origami skin (she is more like for simp)
Tohka skin is kinda match the lore about how she seduce mc with the similar bigchest method

[cobalt robin]

being able to buy them each reset would be insane, theres like 7 of em 😭

[tidal meteor]

#al-lore has some new cg images, but we're still waiting on the event maps & character datamine

[cobalt robin]

each

[forest palm]

they give a blank per each blue logger

[south sequoia]

Next time take your comments to al gen please

[weary gust]

Plus a lot of gold plates

[ocean terrace]

oh then Wyvern is right after the monthly reset then hehe

[onyx flame]

maybe this round if abyssal and cat rng favour you

[cobalt robin]

scammer cat favoring you, what a funny joke

[ocean terrace]

my cats aren't even level 20 im cooked

[forest palm]

Cat leveling is so much quicker nowadays

[cobalt robin]

if my cats pull sum ur its only upgrade part

[ivory sigil]

-# 🤓 Yoshino MVP at shooting lazer hit all 4 enemy at once in pvp

[cobalt robin]

how do level em quickly

[ocean terrace]

with the 2k vouchers I had though I bought these, were they higher prio anyway?

[weary gust]

Level 30 cats before comforts were a year+ endeavor.

[ivory sigil]

can u clear them in opsi yet?

[cobalt robin]

no its fine, those loggers are monthy so you can take your time with the blue loggers

[ocean terrace]

just sitting there

[onyx flame]

At least its not ur torp prints

[ocean terrace]

I can maybe do a C5 one but it's hard and depends on the boss

[onyx flame]

Just wait till nearer the end of the month tbh no rush

[cobalt robin]

ive already got 4 of em from cat and abyssal give me more so i can craft my quint and leave

[ocean terrace]

yup just been doing dailies for the past week

[ivory sigil]

bro just heal and rest, with adapt 5 n 6, u can clear it just fine

[stark quiver]

Do it whenever you can and are able to full kill it

[ocean terrace]

yeah I tried it once and ended up horribly

[cobalt robin]

you can also take the partial clear rewards

[ocean terrace]

had the fucking self healing boss ffs

[stark quiver]

I died to that one too

[hollow needle]

Is this good enough? The difference between Hakuhou and implacable are 0.68 or 0.7 if we rounded it

[cobalt robin]

i remember getting fried with plane spam

[ivory sigil]

buy those adapt quality tuning in the shop if u are really in need
Also dont let AP stay cap, just spam it in any c1 or c4 to improve self-adapt too
adapt around 200 for goods

[cobalt robin]

those are pretty useless, unless later when you have excess vouchers

[wind hazel]

C1 or c3 or c5

[cobalt robin]

i dont recc to buy those if its your first couple months of opsi

[hollow needle]

Eh? Can't rounded the number?

[cobalt robin]

c3 (i can hear the c1 glazers coming)

[south sequoia]

This c5 vs c1 shit gets serious for y'all

[ocean terrace]

i havent bought any dw, I asked about it before

[viscid swift]

I mean

[wind hazel]

The numbers aren't looking good. Hakuhou too far apart

[cobalt robin]

c5 is only if you need to burn ap fast

[forest palm]

C5/C3 is the lazier option, C1 is a chore

[faint cloud]

no image，only text wall this time

[slate blade]

[rain bobcat]

why is ur setup so roundabout lol (make hakuhou flag)

[cobalt robin]

too bad its capped

[viscid swift]

sigh, I'll see what I can do

[cobalt robin]

i had to zoom 7x to even read something

[hollow needle]

Welp I can't find the right timing I'm so focused with their first launch I don't notice the gap for their next launch

[ivory sigil]

i did encounter self-heal boss, but just outdps them in time would suffice

[viscid swift]

CN Datamine 12/17/2025

[weary gust]

Can you give those of us who are not bacterium-sized a brief summary of what that is even about

[hollow needle]

Because I still don't understand how to timing CV

[ocean terrace]

datamine should be like 90% accurate on how good it is in practice right

[rapid shard]

https://discord.com/channels/456397991847395339/1451059348963987598

[rain bobcat]

skin interactions, help me help you

[wind hazel]

i know, im just separating them so that it's easier for you guys to translate, instead of one big picture

in hindsight should have pasted these there you're right LOL

[rapid shard]

Cheeky working on translating now

[cobalt robin]

this how much i gotta zoom 😭

[azure coyote]

How do I equip the anti ship missile on my ship cause for some reason it doesn't show up when I try to equip it

[rapid shard]

Only used on DDGs

[ocean terrace]

@rain bobcat is there a specific way to provide the pics? like resolution, screen ratio etc

[hollow needle]

Hmm look like this are working? Thank

[azure coyote]

Can you give me some ships that are ddgs?

[rain bobcat]

no need to provide exact, ill buy the skins, just lmk what interaction you can find (a circle on the exact place using mspaint or smth would be helpful)

[eternal moth]

Fu Shun, An Shan, Chang Chun

[cobalt robin]

you forgor tai yuan

[rapid shard]

Its the Chinese DDs after retro fit. List is posted above this

[rain bobcat]

it just helps me and my team not miss things if more ppl experiment at the same time

[ivory sigil]

they having good stats in the Endgame tierlist,

-# i mean if i ever bored and wanna build a 3rd/4th fleet i would buy them tho (include their retrofit item)

[azure coyote]

Yeah sorry but I'm going to need a pick 😭

[rapid shard]

Tai Yaun is most reccomened one to do first

[azure coyote]

So where can I get tai yuan

[ivory sigil]

guildshop 800coin

[rapid shard]

/Wiki Tai Yuan

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Azur Lane Wiki

Multiple results found

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Tai_Yuan
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Tai_Yuan/Quotes
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Tai_Yuan/Gallery

Dec 18, 2025, 3:59 AM

[cobalt robin]

not worth getting and gearing ddgs unless you have nothing better to do with excess materials

[rain bobcat]

@rapid shard made a thread for skins later, tell ppl to go there if they have findings so there's less chance of me missing smth. I can't exactly do it all as update drops because it drops at 3am for me lol

[ivory sigil]

i used to plan to buy Taiyuan to replace my laffey until i got roasted for being a 1st week player dare to spend 1000 URbulin coin for something such underwelm

[rapid shard]

@rain bobcat will do. It drops 8am for me, might not get any updates till my evening. Still working on the others we talked about, Hospital trip over weekend threw me off

[hollow gust]

That's why it's a useless endeavor to follow end game tierlist....you flatly do not need a anti light dps

[azure coyote]

I see

[cobalt robin]

well it is an upgrade over laff but not one worth it since ddgs are fairly expensive, they need a missle and the 4 gods aux which both together 1600 core data, plus another 1k special core for the retrofit item and all the gold and prints for the retrofit as well

[ivory sigil]

ya, i do like taiyuan design overall, i guess i had to skip her until i become older AZ player
would love if i play AZ in 2023 and get her for free

[hollow gust]

I'll rather max a roon then invest into any ddg

[azure coyote]

Guys is Eldridge good I just retrofit her a few moments ago

[soft raft]

Very

[wind hazel]

it's joever

[cobalt robin]

one of the best

[rapid shard]

One of the best vanguards in game for survivability

[cobalt robin]

what happened

[soft raft]

How much?

[wind hazel]

jk i actually just said that randomly

[cobalt robin]

willy d got fp tech so thats good ig

[soft raft]

on obtain or 120?

[ocean terrace]

someone let me know if those numbers meaning anything from datamine

[azure coyote]

Guys I'm about to complete the handbook quest should I pick shinano or new Jersey?

[ocean terrace]

shinano but if you can't mlb them just keep it in depot without picking

[azure coyote]

Alright

[cobalt robin]

120

what did luck stat do again?

[cobalt robin]

which numbers

[wind hazel]

related to hit, crit rate, evasion

[ocean terrace]

well im reading the datamine and i can read but dont know if it means it's good lol

[rain bobcat]

holy AA carry

[rapid shard]

Wait a few for the preliminary assessments lol

[wind hazel]

give it few hours. lots of translation inaccuracy at this phase, don't trust it 100%

[rain bobcat]

willy dee has massive AA and fleet wife AA buff

[hollow gust]

It's pretty obvious which is Lexy

[rapid shard]

Willy Guam seem like they could be a insane combo for W15

[cobalt robin]

i mean silly d is a uss ship

[hollow gust]

Her having Yorky efficiency is sadge

[soft raft]

F

[weary gust]

Another UR DD that's a tanky AA ship? No one could have seen that coming.

[viscid swift]

well Cowpens might be an Aquila supplement/alt

[ivory sigil]

I maynot understand technical term

but is that mean our WillyD will get along with sandy? Or overthrone ??

[hollow gust]

Great , Lexy just solidifies the fact that Eagle are anti light

[soft raft]

What's the skill like?

[rain bobcat]

just what the fuck am I looking at

lexi has: heals stop rocket barrage and increase light dmg for carriers

[wind hazel]

lowest hp target healing

[rain bobcat]

when launching heal lowest hp vang and main, also boosts their dmg by 10%

[viscid swift]

Excessive Nutrition - At the start of battle, increases own Aviation, Reload, and Accuracy attributes by 5.0% (max level 15.0%); During battle, each time she launches an air strike, she additionally uses a TBF Avenger squadron to launch an attack Lv.1 (max level Lv.10) (Effectiveness depends on skill level)

Vitality Milk - During battle, each time she launches an air strike, she restores HP to the character with the lowest current HP percentage in both the Vanguard Fleet and Main Fleet. The single restoration amount is 3.5% (max level 8.0%) of Cowpen's total HP, and increases the damage dealt by these two characters by 4.0% (max level 10.0%) for 5 seconds.

[ocean terrace]

so Lexy II looks similar to York2 in terms of kit and damage?

[sharp socket]

also her heal is based on her own hp

[rain bobcat]

lexi looks so fucked and dead on arrival it's insane

campaign ship gg

[sharp socket]

i think thats slightly more heal for most ships compared to aquila

[hollow gust]

[soft raft]

Hmmmm so Aquila but using her own HP for the heal while Aquila uses the heal target's HP

IE RNG-less Volga

[sharp socket]

more heal for dds and cl

[viscid swift]

pretty much

[soft raft]

Not bad at all

[viscid swift]

I'll take it

[ivory sigil]

So it's a roll or skip ?

[sharp socket]

is cowpens shop SR or gacha

[viscid swift]

also neither UR caught up my eye at just a quick glance

[verbal plinth]

gacha

[soft raft]

Who is the shop SR even lol

[sharp socket]

gamba

[onyx flame]

Cleve meta iurc

[verbal plinth]

willie

[soft raft]

That's UR not SR

[verbal plinth]

nvm i forgot 2 shops

[soft raft]

Oh right cleveM lol

[woeful token]

For Otto von Alvenslaben, is the Schultz gun the best option for her or the single 150 to spam her evasion rate buff?

[rain bobcat]

lexi tldr

Blue Ghost:
When certain 25% hp is lost, the ship becomes untargetable for 2s. Each time this happens, it permanently gains extra damage resistance or AA buffs (torpedo ↓, AA ↑, fire ↓, crash damage ↓), stacking up to 4 times.

Sound of Retreating Clouds:
Start of battle: boosts aviation & accuracy.
When launching planes: triggers an extra airstrike and slows enemies by 40% (deals more dmg to them if 3 USS conditions are met).
also, if they have been slowed by (USS?) teammates, the slow turns into a freeze (basically nakhimov)

Song and Swallow’s Whisper:
Heals Lexington- & Essex-class carriers when launching planes (up to 4 times per battle).
Also boosts their damage vs light armor and gives them temporary AA buffs after each airstrike.

it's literally dead on arrival campaign ship

[soft raft]

oof class exclusive heals
how much is that heal % anyway

[rain bobcat]

5% hp

[soft raft]

Damn

[rigid onyx]

dead on arrival campaign ship when they have a stop?

[ocean terrace]

dont do that to me

[sharp socket]

surely this means w16 is coming soon

[verbal plinth]

how is it doa when 99% of the game is campain

[soft raft]

40% slow is ass when you ideally want a 100% slow aka a freeze

[ocean terrace]

shes super broken gigacarry CV who powercreeps Lion and Meck and any other ship

[rigid onyx]

it has a freeze

[onyx flame]

Ur cv is still ur cv

[soft raft]

oh didnt read that part
lol American Nakhimov

[rain bobcat]

I doubt this beats BB

[soft raft]

so I guess AvP is yeeted for good in USS Anti-Light

[rain bobcat]

she's just gonna make USS stay as top 2 anti light option

[hollow gust]

who the fuck still uses AVP for anti light?

[wind hazel]

💀

[rain bobcat]

lol kear york2 lexi 2 might be quite nice for anti light

[wind hazel]

avp was dead when implacable arrived

[rain bobcat]

def not beating lion though

[hollow gust]

thats just a shit take without even having a proper datamine

[wind hazel]

and even implacable is dead nowadays, as dead as USS anti light as well

[stark quiver]

oh wait whens maint

[wind hazel]

<3hr

[onyx flame]

Less than 3 hours

[soft raft]

same time as usual

[hollow gust]

2 hours 40 minute

[stark quiver]

[soft raft]

How do you not know this lol

[rigid onyx]

me when the people judge a ship before barrage or extra airstrike datemine come out

[ivory sigil]

does that mean she isnt that wise for us newbie to roll her if lacking USS beneficial ship like kear?

[stark quiver]

i am new player

[wind hazel]

no, you still roll any new UR

[ocean terrace]

what, any new UR is a UR, get it no matter what

[ivory sigil]

[viscid swift]

so TLDR:
Lexy 2 is basically USN Antilight faction CV
Porter is another Campaign AA ship
Cowpens is a healer supplement
Cleveland META and Pasadena are FP tech
the DD is an elite with bad tech
we know nothing of Maury retro for now

[stark quiver]

does this mean hvars are back in action

[viscid swift]

that's my impressions for now

[hollow gust]

every fucking UR that wasnt stat padded

[onyx flame]

It may not be as good for older players but it still a buff to a new player lol

[viscid swift]

I dunno, gonna take quite a bit to topple Lion, Alsace, and Fritz

[rigid onyx]

weren't there a few people saying lion bad for a few hours i remember some stupid stuff

[viscid swift]

there's always such people

[ivory sigil]

inb4 not lucky and endup 400cube

yeah i hope u get her before 400cube pity too

[stark quiver]

lions a baddie

[rigid onyx]

depending on numbers couldnt they topple fritz p easily in comps that need eld

[soft raft]

It's either just memes, people who didnt get her so they're coping, or people who actually belive it I dunno

[slate blade]

This part, no?
|| Destroyer Retrofit Blueprint T3 *2, Main Gun Component T3 *20, Resources *3000

Naval Race - Every 5 seconds after battle starts, has a 50.0% (100.0% at max level) chance to enter 【Race Mode】: Increases own Speed by 20.0% (40.0% at max level), reduces damage taken by self by 15.0% (30.0% at max level), lasts 2 seconds. When exiting 【Race Mode】, triggers a wave of special barrage Lv.1 (Lv.10 at max level) (power scales with skill level).

[stark quiver]

Bro their skills have muchos texts

[rain bobcat]

willy dee is really insane for AA

[hollow gust]

cause people judge ships by the raw stats when so many AL ships have been make or break by barrage

[stark quiver]

is cowpen a good healer supplement

[viscid swift]

decent if nothing else

[stark quiver]

skin time

[rigid onyx]

my cope of a unicorn killer is gone

[soft raft]

looks to be RNG-less Volga

[whole crypt]

rip retrosex

[bleak junco]

so good to use in campaign and stuff then?

[stark quiver]

did essex get obliterated already?

[whole crypt]

so Kear/YorkII/LexII anti-light?

[stark quiver]

wait whats lexys loadout

[viscid swift]

I dunno at this point

[knotty jolt]

so nothing to write home about this event?

[viscid swift]

something vaguely similar to Yorktown 2