gameplay-help

[ivory sigil]

Okay i want to be recap again.
We grind the event for Willy Dilly, and able to get at least 2 of her

Meanwhile Lexi said accumulate 4 times? Or they mean 400 roll for 1 lexi?

[whole crypt]

have you bought cores from medal

[wind hazel]

you can buy 2nd copy of D too

[onyx flame]

Easy 5 lex2 in the first 10 pulls

[verbal plinth]

Why waste 10 cubes do it in 5

[ocean terrace]

oh my god if I pull 2 Lex II I could mlb another UR in Jan

time to pray

[wind hazel]

-# inb4 pity

[onyx flame]

other 5 is for the other sr ship

[ivory sigil]

I want to hope Lex2 is bossfleety

[whole crypt]

wait YKM should make it just in time for leveling with the event?

[ocean terrace]

I hope she's better than Lion

[onyx flame]

[ocean terrace]

let a man have hope

[woven star]

Lion, Meck, Fritz and what? Lex2 and York2...no hope

[tropic tusk]

they should announce update time on the next stream right?

[onyx flame]

its this maint aint it

[tropic tusk]

oh it is?

[rapid shard]

already announced in #game-news

[tropic tusk]

arr ok

[tired grotto]

What vanguard should I put

[inland shoal]

I really wonder what they will even announce in strim tmr

[tropic tusk]

[inland shoal]

You missed Kurumi?

[onyx flame]

prolly lex2 plus her skin and the other season8 ship skin i expecting a cow skin ngl

[eternal basalt]

Cowpens not enough?

[ocean terrace]

Cowpens didn't get a skin yet right?

[tropic tusk]

nope

[inland shoal]

Cowpens didn't even get announced in stream yet

[ocean terrace]

is she supposed to get one on release?

[verbal plinth]

Prob

[wind hazel]

drop hardi, just mlb your asama, already invested so much. raise yamai. drop your bismarck until she's mlb, can raise another CV in the meantime

^just to make sure, you do you have yamai's augment right?

[inland shoal]

I hope that Enterprise is MLB too

[tired grotto]

no thats my issue

[wind hazel]

lol ok forget about yamai then. what about ryu lion's augment?

[tired grotto]

nope

[wind hazel]

brah

[tired grotto]

i dont have either i think

i wasnt playing then

[inland shoal]

One more reason to hate this inane trend of releasing collab ships with augment

[wind hazel]

just use adalbert then

[tired grotto]

ok

[inland shoal]

Actually how does Lyme compare to Adal?

[inland shoal]

Also your Enty is MLB right?

[wind hazel]

way tankier, but tempesta... kinda sucky without their gear

[ocean terrace]

gear from research is just, collect enough prints and craft right?

[wind hazel]

and tempesta doesnt help in shipyard or tech, so i kinda dislike raising them

[tired grotto]

not yet but i can mlb

[ivory sigil]

-# inb4 she had a niche kits that require same fleet

[ocean terrace]

what's the expected time taken to craft meck gun then? I know it depends etc but estimation

[reef flume]

2-3 months

[eternal basalt]

They help IX tech

[wind hazel]

faction tech

[ocean terrace]

that's not bad actually, for one of the best guns in the game

[wind hazel]

*doesnt help in shipyard expgrind or getting faction tech

[ocean terrace]

is the difference between flandre/champy gun and meck gun huge?

[wind hazel]

significant enough, but ultimately goes back to timing

[ocean terrace]

oh yeah at what point do I start worrying about timing

[wind hazel]

when your ships have individual buffs you wanna take advantage of

[ocean terrace]

everyone has Helena I suppose

[wind hazel]

the BB i mean

[ocean terrace]

ah, or CV

[wind hazel]

if it's just helena, and your BB dont have buff, then they can fire whatever order they want

[ivory sigil]

my voucher for opsi estimation was lower day after day, despite i dont really spend much on port healing

I noticed the daily mission which convert Opsi-coin into some heal box doesnt seem beneficial. Does highlvl people skipping them?

[wind hazel]

but if they have certain buff like lion dmg buff etc, you want some priority order in firing

wouldnt make sense to have the buff goes last now would it?

[ocean terrace]

is there a list of ships that are noteworthy buffers or do I have to scroll through sheets

[wind hazel]

uh, my memory isn't that good, just read through the UR skills on lars site

[ivory sigil]

Cheeky, the guide i read about chapter1 to 13 speedrunning, they had a part mention about Desync

Does that mean for better dmg, all dps should desync?

[ocean terrace]

https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/progression-guide
this?

[ivory sigil]

Yeah, The guide only mention about desync helping the transition between mob and boss scenario, reduce the cost of overkilling them

[inland shoal]

Sry had to leave for a bit
I think you should do that then, tho you'll also have to do Asama and Adal so yeah better get those bulins (btw 1 MLB is always better than several partial LBs

[wind hazel]

kinda, yes. it's to avoid hitting air, and having your CV airstriking in gaps can help to clear screen better. better damage uptime, etc

in campaign it's always better to stagger. in single target bossing it's the opposite, unless some gimmick

[ocean terrace]

I assume timing is more important for bossing tho

[inland shoal]

I mean there's sushi's tierlist thing that has a column for buffs

[ivory sigil]

Yeah i been seeking in that Endgame sheet

Mostly the column called: Offensive buff

helena was in top5 iirc

[tired grotto]

asama was not cause i got her 3 times during the event

[ocean terrace]

thats what I meant yeah, oh well I'll have a look

[inland shoal]

Well in campaign bosses especially in later chapters you still want to stagger

[ivory sigil]

Most other are unobtainable iirc

[inland shoal]

It's only the real boss fights like CM or Meta where you really go for specific timings and syncs and want to keep everything in your buff windows

[ocean terrace]

CM is pretty useless to do though, from what I've heard

[wind hazel]

pretty much just a challenge

[ocean terrace]

I guess Hard Arbiter and Meta are the important single target bosses

[wind hazel]

reward wise yes

[ivory sigil]

I learned something from claiming my opsidailyquest...

I have skipping the one that exchange coin to free stuff

But the daily that give a Purple Vital was pretty much okay since it also give extra Purple coin
WHILE the daily that give free HP box isnt worth, 0 purple coin

Only claim it in desperation for quick meta battle-points

[rapid summit]

Do event shop UR also getting added to banner when they become permanent?

[verbal plinth]

We havent had a event shop go perm so don't know

I don't think

[rapid summit]

So they just become lost?

[rapid shard]

Got to wait till Guam/Laff 2 get added to perm

[muted wind]

yeah, we haven't yet, so we don't know what they do with them

it's basically guaranteed they become permanent also, we just don't know how

[rapid summit]

Oh I’m hoping Laffey II does get added

[rain bobcat]

well you have to wait 1 more year then lol

laffii and guam are rerunning next year not archiving

archive aka perma is 2027 minimum

[wind hazel]

wait what the fuck it's 3 weeks event

what's happening to this game

[rain bobcat]

yeah its a first for dec crazy

[tired grotto]

I looked at Ryu and I have her augment

[inland shoal]

I complained about too low SR bulin income
So they just make us get less ships

[tropic tusk]

wt do u guys do with ur purple bulions when ur purple ship are all mlb?

wont u keep like a few for future?

[verbal plinth]

Some but you get alot

[ocean terrace]

how long is it usually?

[rain bobcat]

2w

[onyx flame]

2 weeks

[ocean terrace]

I guess it's better then?

[tropic tusk]

thats true

[rain bobcat]

im guessing there's a fuckton of skins or smth idk

[fleet berry]

Wait, where do they say that? Twitter?

[ocean terrace]

#game-news

oh actually, might not mention it there

[sly ibex]

Good day. Will there be Japanese stream later?

[tropic tusk]

isnt it tmr?

[late flame]

Roughly 23hrs or so from now

[sly ibex]

Okay. Thank you.

[onyx flame]

its on the picture not in the tweet itself

[ocean terrace]

does it matter if I challenge YorkM from my own boss list or from others' in world chat?

[whole crypt]

20-ish hours from now

[tropic tusk]

wt do u mean by that

[ocean terrace]

like I can challenge her from my own boss list, or from world chat people sharing it

[onyx flame]

You should do your own challenge and challenge the other people want which lets you earn more. You can chellenge yours twice and help other 3 times a day

[ocean terrace]

but what if I forgot and my YorkM is level 3 lmao

[tropic tusk]

then it will stay there untill u reach 15

[ocean terrace]

so I should do both helping and my own

[tropic tusk]

but if u already started that it will be gone within 24h , but u will still need to kill that lvl 1 time

[ocean terrace]

will I be able to get her at this rate? is there a rush?

[onyx flame]

You earn more sync point that way so might as well

Its easy to get her at mlb cause its only 25k sync points

[tropic tusk]

when u can kill daily x2 ur self u will be too lazy to do help, unless ur trying to 100% the whole grind

getting total of 5 copies by just doing daily x2 is more then enough

[fleet berry]

Yeah, I checked both JP and EN Twitter. 2 or 3 weeks are fine for me, I'm just wondering where they said that.

[ocean terrace]

I can do up to lvl 10, everything after I run out of time

[ocean terrace]

it's on the image itself

[tropic tusk]

its fine u can just send auto and clear it which is 15 mins

[fleet berry]

Lmao, I only read the text, not checked the image.

[onyx flame]

Thats for dossier

[tropic tusk]

doesnt the outside one also have that?

or did i remember wrong

[onyx flame]

Nah you only got request aid and hope other blow it up

[tropic tusk]

oh

[ocean terrace]

I've been slacking a lot on both dossier and current meta, though I didn't see it as a priority at all

[tropic tusk]

but u can keep bumping it till it dead right?

[tropic tusk]

yea dossier no prio , current meta if u miss it u need to wait 2 years

[onyx flame]

Yea takes oil thou so i just spam request aid every 30 min instead and hope someone else blow her up lol

[tropic tusk]

meta are just adding to ur collection %

[ocean terrace]

fleet tech too right?

[tropic tusk]

i was doing that in the beginning also, but then after a while u found out no one cares and start doing it urself

[tropic tusk]

yes

but those are like late game problem , u can just unlock the ship and stop if u want as that gives the most value and easy to get

[onyx flame]

Doesnt hurt to req aid and wait i only do it myself fully when its nearing reset

[tropic tusk]

back then i even bump lvl15 myself even if it takes 4-6 tries lol

[ocean terrace]

my guild's members are like all twice my level so they can usually one shot it for me lol

[tropic tusk]

yea but not everyone will do public raid

[onyx flame]

I alr cant one tap lvl 12 york so its gonna be doom for 15

[tropic tusk]

the last meta i still need 2 taps on it

[onyx flame]

1.9m ehp

[ocean terrace]

she chonky

[undone plover]

if u care about collection use them to retrofit ships as well

[tropic tusk]

yea i mean after all that

[undone plover]

then they get turned into medals

[tropic tusk]

im like 1/5 of the way , probly 2/5

[undone plover]

u should use them on rare and commons as well btw
they are not only usable on purple ships

[tropic tusk]

yea i know

i think all purple ships below all mlb by now

[ivory sigil]

Hmm i will take a closer inspection over Jintsuu Meta. The Endgame tierlist and Offensive buff were giving abit of usable ranking
Would love to hear advice to see how ppl here treat her

Since most ppl say purple meta are sht, meanwhile golden meta are locked away from newbie accessible

[ocean terrace]

shes good in pvp

I wont invest in her for ages, maybe once I have time and resources for pvp

[ivory sigil]

Man i literally ran out of stuff to do in azurlane
With only Meta Dossel being the last thing that oil costly

(I wont touch much of my 12k oil tho)

[ocean terrace]

dw you'll be busy with UR event in 1.5 days

[tropic tusk]

already mlb 120 all other ships?

[ocean terrace]

they started less than a month ago

[tropic tusk]

then he have nothing to do in al lol

[ivory sigil]

I mean my chapter 12 is lvl locked
Chapter 11 is sht to spam
CM is not accessible
i havent do Unison SP or Chess divergent
I did try my DAL team to HardArbeite and didnt even reach 15% of its hp

[ocean terrace]

I spammed a lot of 11-4 to get to W12

[tropic tusk]

so u still have things to do in al

[ivory sigil]

Nah i let the event decide my lvl

[tropic tusk]

yea u will be stuck in ch11 for a while...i was stuck in it for around 3 months

[ocean terrace]

what... I got out of it in 4 days

[undone plover]

it is normal for gacha games to have a stamina system and time gate progress
u just need to touch grass when u reach that level
or come here and help other ppl (and argue with other ppl)

[tropic tusk]

u probly stuck at lower levels

[muted wind]

they reduced the level requirements for various campaign chapters a while back, so maybe that's the difference?

[tropic tusk]

or probly that

[undone plover]

also some ppl start with events so they can reach oil cap sooner

[ocean terrace]

idk if my progress has been good or not but ive reached W12 in what 26 days now?

[muted wind]

... yeah, hq level 80 in that time seems reasonable

[undone plover]

that is very good
took me longer iirc but first month I was doing random stuff and didnt ask for help

[tropic tusk]

u also probly had a good start ( better ships and all that)

[ocean terrace]

true DAL event was very helpful

• I had storage resources from my account being 4 years old
  and also great help from people here

[muted wind]

admittedly, the bottleneck for reaching w12 now is probably really just hq exp, which doesn't really scale... at all

[ocean terrace]

yeah wish I got the level 70 pack, would've saved me loads of time and oil

[tropic tusk]

if u got that pack u will have alot of questions to ask, so better dont

[muted wind]

eh, saves you some time early game and you still don't know how anything works so

it basically skips the part that's easy anyways

[ocean terrace]

I've asked like 100s of questions already at this point

[tropic tusk]

yea but at least not the basics

[inland shoal]

Eh 70 pack is a worthwhile purchase early on, does save you a decent amount of time tbh

[muted wind]

-# i just think the pack is weird personally because "early on" is exactly the time where i wouldn't want to spend money on a free game

[ocean terrace]

there's no other good resource pack tho imo

other than buying straight gems

[tropic tusk]

then dont but lol, just buy gems for skins / dock space

[inland shoal]

That's true, but some people just spend the minute they enter

[muted wind]

fair enough

[undone plover]

no resource pack is good because the game is generous enough with resources if u dont mismanage

[ocean terrace]

thats what I mean tho, it's the only one I would've got but I realised too late lol

[tropic tusk]

yea and leave after 10 min

[onyx flame]

gotta thank em for keep al afloat

[undone plover]

cruise pass/trade license is decent for cubes I think but even then u dont really need em

[ocean terrace]

if I end up pitying Lexy II, might need the cubes for Guam and Feb UR

[tropic tusk]

oh i buy them both

[ivory sigil]

I dont question much...
but everytime i did, i realize i had made so many mistake

but yeah nothing too major and can easily be recover
I was lucky not hitting something like fatal mistake

So most of time, i just casually do stuff on my own and let the expert do the stat/math etc here. It always end up being a roasting somehow

[tulip tinsel]

event on Thursday right?

ok thx

[ivory sigil]

My guild is depressing, i usually stay at the top 1 in Guild Mission participation/contribution
Meanwhile the dossier thingy, despite being half of them max lvl and max member, none of them attention to the helping dossier.

[tulip tinsel]

because almost no one uses that feature

[tropic tusk]

my guild includ me the top 5-8 all have roughtly the same number

[muted wind]

tbf meta dossier help requests are really easy to miss. i don't even check that menu usually

[inland shoal]

I check that menu once a day when doing my supports

[tropic tusk]

i stop caring the request part like 1 year ago tbh... just start doing them all myself

[inland shoal]

On the days I even do meta at all that is

[muted wind]

how long do the support requests even stay up?

[tropic tusk]

untill ur fight timer is over - 24h total

[inland shoal]

Quite long, but you can only see those sent after you log in

[muted wind]

okay so it's... bad anyways

[onyx flame]

oh that reminds me i gotta do my dossiers lol

[tulip tinsel]

what's w14 aa like? easier or somewhat same as w13, or like w12 level?

[inland shoal]

I mean honestly it's just going into support, clicking the world filter on top so you only see guilds and friends, clicking them all, none of the are valid anymore, switching the world filter on again and doing one of those

W14 aa is easier than w13, idr about w12

[muted wind]

i thought we meant dossier, i.e. the old metas. which is a different toggle i never press

[inland shoal]

Oh yeah you're right, I forgot that was even a thing

[muted wind]

honestly, i think w14 has less planes than w12, but actually defending against them is more important due to concealment

[wind hazel]

sorry late. flip a coin and choose between ryu or adalbert. ryu is the better ship but adalbert can contribute to faction tech and shipyard grind for ironblood

[turbid marsh]

closer to no planes at all, w14 focus on anti-sub

[tulip tinsel]

retro eld+ hedgehog should do it right?

[inland shoal]

Iirc that should suffice yes

[turbid marsh]

yeah the anti-sub requirement in w14 isn't that high, that would be enough.

[tulip tinsel]

alright thanks

[turbid marsh]

like when it first appeared, i cleared it with shimakaze yuudachi and ingraham.

[thorny harness]

can anyone tell me what good are the IX ships are since i just got the whydah which honestly is just not really worth using

[onyx flame]

they really dont got much use other than the sub ones for cheesing the sub weekly challenge

[undone plover]

Amity is niche in boss content I think
The rest (SR) are mostly decent but nothing amazing

[tropic tusk]

dont use amity 's skin it sucks battery dry fast

god dam her wallpaper at home screen

did u not buy it @undone plover ?

[undone plover]

no

[tropic tusk]

one sec let me record it

oh wait i think they neft it or sth

[undone plover]

I have seen the animation
It is a pretty skin

[tropic tusk]

it is a pretty skin , its jut the thunder used to spam non stop

to the point where u cant see anything

and she was on climax mode nonstop (if u know wt i mean )

[undone plover]

Sounds like it was bugged or sth

[thorny harness]

can you bother telling me what amity is since im only level 30 currently

[undone plover]

One of the IX girls

[safe nexus]

should i +13 my ryuusei kai? from the guide

[inland shoal]

Lyme is pretty decent

But yeah

[inland shoal]

It's not a bad thing to +13 at least, just dunno if you got better options as that is mainly anti heavy

[inland shoal]

Huh I don't recall that lol

[safe nexus]

priority said to +13 the two BB guns then ryuusei kai

[inland shoal]

Yeah if you already did the BB guns it's good

[safe nexus]

ok thx

so BB follow the last one? i thoguht they would want the hit stat from STAAG/Hazemeyer

[inland shoal]

That gun gives 15 hit tho

And 134 is for when you don't need the hit as it has FP instead

Generally Staag and Hazemeyer are kinda worse 76s, so they could kinda appear in the last row too, but vg most of the time doesn't care about hit much

[safe nexus]

i see thx

what is ST?

[boreal wagon]

single target

[safe nexus]

thx

[undone plover]

yeah but they are at most just "decent"
does she work in ch15?
their main issue for campaign is lack of AA
and for bossing they dont do a lot of dmg due to bad guns

[safe nexus]

does FP stat affect plane dmg?

[tulip tinsel]

avi

[dawn spade]

what happens when you have a ship in the fleet that cant receive any more xp? because its lvl 125, or because its lvl 70 and not MLB? do the other ships get more xp? or does the xp that that ship would've received just vanish?

[boreal wagon]

it just vanishes because exp isn't reduced by having more ships

it would however still count for something like shipyard missions despite saying +0

[dawn spade]

oh you've gotta be kidding. this whole time, i've avoided doing full fleets just because i wanted to give some ships more xp

[boreal wagon]

yeah not how AL works

[dawn spade]

oh, really? thats exactly what im doing rn. im trying to get like 2,4 million xp on northern ships and its a nightmare

[boreal wagon]

everyone gets the same exp, except mvp and/or flagship

[dawn spade]

thanks. i guess i'll just go with full fleet from now on then

[safe nexus]

should my CV/CVL with AA gear slot just equip pure AA stat ones?

[weary gust]

Staag or better HIT AA gun goes on pretty much every mainfleet ship 99% of the time

[weary edge]

i mean, some people still do 2 vang 2 main to save oil, but if ur farming for research xp then yeah do a full fleet, or if the stage ur doing has oil caps

[frozen stag]

Do we know what will be the gear in the shop for the new ur event

[viscid swift]

we don't even know if there will be new gear in the event shop

[fast frigate]

spending 400 cubes is guaranteed UR right?

[viscid swift]

on the event banner yes

[dawn spade]

im trying to get Nakhimov atm. should i replace Unicorn with her, or should i keep both in my fleet even though they're both CVs? Nakhimov is better i think but Unicorn's heal is really useful

[viscid swift]

they do completely different things

Also if your Nahkimov isn't dev 30, then she's pretty useless

[dawn spade]

oh. wtf is dev 30..?

[boreal wagon]

highest limit break for shipyard ships

[dawn spade]

oh. i havent limit broken a single shipyard ship so far so i barely know how they work even

[viscid swift]

PR/DR ships need Blueprints to enhance them rather than Bullins

[dawn spade]

i see, so thats what those are for

[warm latch]

not mlb/dev30 = shit

[viscid swift]

might wanna give that a read then
https://azurlaneecgc.com/research/

[onyx flame]

she need 513 bps for dev 30 which is gonna take a while

[dawn spade]

[stray crane]

agir can be coined right?

[dawn spade]

and i cant add her in the research academy either

so yeah its gonna take quite a while

[viscid swift]

3-5 months on average

[dawn spade]

guess i'll just have her as secretary until then, with her sexy skins

and Unicorn gets to stay in the party

[viscid swift]

if you keep on top of research projects

[onyx flame]

assuming your research focus is on 7

[viscid swift]

also

[dawn spade]

yeah i was gonna say, Nakhimov is on 7 and i can only add the ships on 6 and below to the research academy for whatever reason?

[viscid swift]

that's catchup, as the name implies it's a catchup mechanic for older seasons

PR7 should get their's in a month or 2

[ivory pawn]

Different mechanic from Focus, which is the top selection on the same menu.

[dawn spade]

i love Unicorn so i dont mind having her there forever

[viscid swift]

that and more useful info can be found here
https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/progression-guide

[tulip tinsel]

is there one for ch14?

[ocean terrace]

both brief and detailed yes

[undone plover]

https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-14-detailed

https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-14-brief

[inland shoal]

So there is not one for w14
There are two

[onyx flame]

twice the reading

[ocean terrace]

twice the fun

[inland shoal]

2*0=0

[viscid swift]

tbf it really isn't that much reading

especially compared to my OpSi Guide coming soon TM

[ocean terrace]

can't wait to give that a read soon TM

[turbid marsh]

can't wait to have 6 pages of reading for blue ghost

[viscid swift]

well most of it is just explaining what stuff is and things do

the actual strategy and fleet building sections are relatively short

[inland shoal]

If there's a thing I like more than reading it's reading things I already know

[verbal plinth]

Forbidden scam cat knowledge maybe???

[short wagon]

if my yk2 has
f6f
ad-1

should my third slot be a dive bomber too?
im in w12 and yk2 is boss fleet

[undone plover]

in story mode u use tenrai > helldiver not ad1

[short wagon]

broke for tenrai

but sure ill use helldiver
both slots?

[viscid swift]

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide

[wind hazel]

no just db slot. 3rd slot use parallel tb

[undone plover]

sth like this

dont use HVAR
normal f6f fine if no flapjack

[wind hazel]

lv114

[undone plover]

preset 😭

[short wagon]

okay

[wind hazel]

haha and the weird +3 +6 too

[short wagon]

is gold f4u >> f6f?

[sweet delta]

If you have one then yes but don't buy it if you don't have it

[short wagon]

bought one like a long while back i have it on independance rn

[sweet delta]

And it is not >> but 🤏 >

[short wagon]

k ima keep f6f then

any cases where i should use this bc ik it gives special AA gun

[onyx flame]

only for shimanto if she isnt fs5

[short wagon]

ok

[uneven cave]

does strategic search for secured zones prioritise ones with daily missions

[sweet delta]

Random

[uneven cave]

is there a way to automatically send them there, or strictly manual only

[forest palm]

manual only

[uneven cave]

[tulip tinsel]

mine always goes to dailies tho

[umbral briar]

can anyone share loadouts, archerfish, flasher, and i-404

[valid forge]

what is the point of secured areas in operation siren?
just to do them again when everything is done?

[tulip tinsel]

dailies

[inland shoal]

Dailies, star missions, leftover AP

[ebon verge]

what is the recommended lvl for 13-4?

[steep salmon]

Hi hi, I'm new and uh can someone help me an give me some advices on my current formation?

[tulip tinsel]

if it doesn't have the unicorn it's shit

[steep salmon]

Well it does

[valid forge]

also is it right that after fighting with high level fleets i fight with low level fleets on another area to let unicorn heal my fleet?

[tulip tinsel]

then can't be that bad

[onyx flame]

https://azurlaneecgc.com/newbie_tips/
https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/progression-guide/

[daring oracle]

Im lowkey ass at OpSi what do people have as their fleets for it?

[tulip tinsel]

you can, but repair boxes exist

[valid forge]

maybe i should save them for other moments?

[onyx flame]

a mob fleet plus X no of boss fleet really, there no real showcase? fleet since everyone dock differs, so it depend on what you have

[onyx flame]

you honestly get more than enough that it really doesnt matter

[valid forge]

okay

[onyx flame]

takao is kinda same with duca

[daring oracle]

for a cv boss fleet for opsi is it recommended to have Helena in it or like a cv buffer? I've been using sirius but it seems like kazagumo also works

[steep salmon]

What is this supposed to mean? They're bad?

[tulip tinsel]

don't build a second fleet until like w9 or 12, don't use non mlb ur's

[steep salmon]

Mlb?

[tulip tinsel]

max limit break(all stars)

and retrofit unicorn if you can

[steep salmon]

Well I'm not sure if ai have anything better than Takao and the other one, I can send a screenshot of all my ships if u want

[steep salmon]

Noted

They need to be lvl 70 to limit break and rn I don't have gold to retrofit but I'll work on it

[onyx flame]

duca is prob fine but takao should prob be replace, question is how much sr bulin do you have

[steep salmon]

Is Unicorn really that good?

[daring oracle]

yes

[steep salmon]

Can I send screenshot of all I have?

[tulip tinsel]

Best healer

[onyx flame]

prob make a thread then send it there

[daring oracle]

do we have thread perms here lowkey forgot

[tulip tinsel]

carries the start game or whatever it's called

[upbeat wagon]

A tank, kazagumo and sirius works could use helena for a bb fleet

[daring oracle]

I'll just send my opsi fleets rn

[upbeat wagon]

Is souryuu good fleet tech?

What is good fleet tech in general

[ebon verge]

Unicorn saratoga Portland helena are all good ship, also just ignore submarine ships until chapter 14

[viscid swift]

Read the newbie tips and progression guide btw @steep salmon

[valid forge]

should i buy all tuning samples?

[onyx flame]

yes
+rld/hit/fp/avi for main, for vanguard its mostly fp

[valid forge]

ok

[steep salmon]

I don't have portland tho, but then I should be using Helena in who's place?

[upbeat wagon]

Does fleet tech from a ship only affect ships of its class

[steep salmon]

Oki I'll read

[trim path]

all mlb'd ships

[ebon verge]

She replaces duca

[trim path]

*in applicable hull

[upbeat wagon]

so CV only affect CV's and so on?

[trim path]

cvs are cvs and cvls, i think? otherwise, yes

[upbeat wagon]

ic thanks

[viscid swift]

Frankly a lot of what I'll end up saying is just repeating what's in the progression guide
For now your fleet will consist of Nelson, Unicorn, Aquila, Portland, Helena, Laffey

[inland shoal]

Very similar hulls go together most of the time

[tulip tinsel]

cv and cvl diff

[onyx flame]

some ships give mutiple hull tech but yea

cvl rld only affect cvl etc

[steep salmon]

I don't have Portland

[viscid swift]

Get her from the guild shop

[upbeat wagon]

hmm i see

ty a lot

[steep salmon]

Aight done, so uhm, should I boost their EXP to level them up to get their limit breaks or no?

[viscid swift]

I refer you to the ship levels section of the progression guide

[steep salmon]

Oh yeah I just looked at it

[uneven knot]

how much gold do u guys have saved up rn?

[inland shoal]

~400k

[uneven knot]

sheeesh are u gonna pull all of it day 1 or spread it out?

[hollow gust]

200k I'll grind the remaining 200k tn

[uneven knot]

i’m only at 160k rn 😭

[tulip tinsel]

it's 2 week long

[uneven knot]

200k in a night is crazy how much oil u got 😭

[woven star]

You will have some 3x pull daily. So at least 180 pulls in day one

[onyx flame]

3 weeks actually

[tulip tinsel]

waht how

[onyx flame]

until 7 jan

[ivory pawn]

UR events are 3 weeks long.

[tulip tinsel]

not 2?

[viscid swift]

well, this one is apparently

[viscid swift]

330k

[hollow gust]

15k is enough

[viscid swift]

and as always all in day one

need to get back up to 100% collection

[inland shoal]

But yeah honestly 400k is kinda low considering I used to constantly be at 600k

[hollow gust]

Once you do late worlds coins is ridiculously easy

[woven star]

Imagine don't get SR ships after UR pity...

[viscid swift]

I am still a 12-1 enjoyer

[turbid marsh]

damn i only save 100k... oh well, double 15-1 if i don't get it

[vale spindle]

I've barely been above 100k for stretches of time in my al career

[inland shoal]

I went back to 12-4 after dropping below 100k a few days ago

[vale spindle]

Usually I'm under 70k and hover around 40k

[hollow gust]

No need to over cap gold when you can make all of it back on a day or 2

[inland shoal]

Truly spoken like someone that is never busy

[forest palm]

if you really committed you could make 400k in a day, but not everyone has the mentality of a sweat shop worker

[sweet delta]

What a tryhard

[turbid marsh]

he meant cap gold as in 100k around

which can be easily done in a day lol

[forest palm]

cap depends on player level

[viscid swift]

mine isn't even 110k

[turbid marsh]

mines only at 108k

[sweet delta]

Look at these high level boomers with over 100k

[inland shoal]

I'm below 100k, I'm a newbie

[woven star]

Dead week. What else to do?

[knotty jolt]

I had 100k+ a few days ago then did shit then went to 4k, I'm back to roughly 32k atm

[woven star]

and Kurumi with Momo lower 120 lvl

[turbid marsh]

me? boomer? waaaa

[forest palm]

well you are the one that threw 100k out there

anyway, what is base coin cap? 55k?

[onyx flame]

Soft coin cap? Isnt it tied to commander lvl

[stark quiver]

is the /crossfleet updated

[viscid swift]

somewhat yes

[stark quiver]

+13ing a wyvern and flap takes 480 plates rite?

[ivory pawn]

Yep. Plus those special plates ofc.

[stark quiver]

damn

[stone sluice]

I regret +13ing one flapjack

[sweet delta]

I think it's about time for there to be a UR fighter with AA and bombs

[stark quiver]

its in the name of science

[sweet delta]

That reduces the first strike reload by 15%

[ivory pawn]

Well, we are about to get a UR CV event…

[turbid marsh]

enterprise: time to lucky e

[cobalt rampart]

just recently unlocked opsi, am I missing something here? there arent any other nodes to check and ive scanned everywherr

[stone sluice]

Imagine a rainbow antisubmarine aux plane

[ivory pawn]

That’s the “done with this device” notification.

[stark quiver]

I present the 13-1h 1:1

[turbid marsh]

oh dang impressive, guess she adds to the list of the 1:1 then

[forest palm]

that Fritz is pretty low, what is the success rate

[stark quiver]

like one in 100 not one hundred but it took a good amt of trial and error

[turbid marsh]

huh

[stark quiver]

but we can only count the win so its technically 100%

[stark quiver]

well tbf its actually pretty high

[cobalt rampart]

is there a general droprate % for elite+ ships listed anywhere? couldn't find any. Scharnhorst is the last I need from div chessboard d-4, just got 60/60 for z-46, thought I would've already gotten scharn 😭

[stark quiver]

No

[inland shoal]

/droprate

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Q: What are the drop rates for __?
A: Map drop rates are unknown and cannot be datamined, due to being server-side. The only one known is 0.75% for Akagi/Kaga (individually) on 3-4. Community data collection suggests the other gold ship drop rates are somewhat similar, however.

Q: Then where should I farm for __?
A: Farm the highest map you can for it. Higher stages give more EXP, upgrade parts, equipment, and shop currency. Community data collection suggests the drop rates are also probably higher on higher worlds.

[upbeat wagon]

Is shimanto good to have as catchup atm, considering she will get coin up in the near future

[stark quiver]

https://youtu.be/-KegI5Fv4ks?si=4UDZ9gIlU_54CUPb
it’s a bit iffy

[upbeat wagon]

or can i use catchup on dev 30 non fs ship to convert

[stark quiver]

Just get shimanto catch up and hold onto it

[upbeat wagon]

seperate question, am i able to do this

[stark quiver]

You can do that too

[ocean terrace]

if you're gonna coin shimanto fully anyway, might as well get the protocores now

where can I find the hull type for each campaign stage's boss fleet?

[inland shoal]

https://azurlane.nagami.moe/nodes
https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/bosses

[ocean terrace]

I've just suffered my first campaign loss in a while to 12-3 boss fleet, clearly my AA is suffering against the CV boss, think I'll just farm 12-1 for now until I get Lexy II in the fleet, what do you think?

[rapid shard]

Are you still running a single fleet?

[ocean terrace]

2 fleets, though my mob is doing fine

my boss fleet is slightly weaker in general (levels mostly)

[rain bobcat]

CV enemies are a dps check/overwhelming AA check

[ocean terrace]

yeah which is why I'm considering I wait for Lexy II
and I'll also retrofit Sandy within the next week or 2

no rush to complete W12 I think as long as I have access to 12-1

[inland shoal]

You can always try swapping a few ships between mob and boss and see if that works, but yeah 12-1 is a fine stage to farm. Though 12.4 does have substantially more coins

[rapid shard]

Probably just need to level/gear your boss fleet a bit more tbh

[ocean terrace]

my main fleet get bombed to death by planes in boss fleet
vanguard survives fine

[inland shoal]

Yeah that's usually what happens when you lack AA

[ocean terrace]

yeah my AA gear is pretty shit too, makes sense tyy

[rapid shard]

Try opening some HMS crates for roombas

[ocean terrace]

got my first gold roomba yesterday, the rest of my AA are either purple roombas or purple quadruple bofors

plus none of my vanguards have any good AA since they're just DAL vanguards + Helena

[rapid shard]

Purple roombas are just fine starting out. The quads a kinda bad tho

[rain bobcat]

if you are getting mauled by CV fleet mob, that is a dps issue
if you are getting mauled by CV boss it's dps+AA issue

[ocean terrace]

I should put my best AA gear on the vanguard ships right?

[rain bobcat]

yes but dont put 3 1s cd guns

your vanguard/main actually fire their guns all at once, taking the average reload of the 3 guns they have

so if you have 3 1s guns ur effectively firing AA guns once every 2-3s

[ocean terrace]

why wouldn't it be every 1s if it's the average

[rain bobcat]

actually I don't think it's average but somewhere there

because 3 1s definitely doesn't equal 1s firing time every wave

[inland shoal]

It's average and then some constant cds added on top

For some reason the constant cds are kinda big

[ocean terrace]

I see, so I'd wanna stagger the AA a little

[rain bobcat]

oh wait yeah

it was like, average+1s LMFAO

yeah I remember why it's 2-3s

[inland shoal]

Staggering AA isn't really a thing, you kinda really just chuck on what's best. Just saying that reload is not as good as it seems

[rain bobcat]

generally you want atleast 1 gun that's not 1+s

you don't wanna be firing every 3s against waves of planes that come every 2s

[rapid shard]

Usually running 2-3 roombas on front line with stagg/haze on back line is good enough. Eventually you'll start mixing in a sextuple or other higher end guns

[rain bobcat]

I default to 1 sexy 1 roomba 1 bofor for gold

bis is obviously 2 USS rainbow 1 sexy

[ocean terrace]

feel like I've been constantly opening a load of tech boxes but still not getting the best purple gear

[rapid shard]

All RNG man, I opened around 200 purple boxes yesterday to get some more purple roombas and got like 3

[rain bobcat]

you will start to feel pain once you open with steam catas as your goal

[ocean terrace]

speaking of which I got my first gold steam cata a couple days ago

[tulip tinsel]

opened 400 gold boxes and got like 6 gold steam catas

[rain bobcat]

now get 7 more

[rapid shard]

me needing at least 14 for my 2 opsi CV fleets cause im lazy af about swapping gear

[inland shoal]

My pain is when they made mass opening boxes easier, but at the same time added 4 clicks to those "Open 1 tech box" missions

[rain bobcat]

surely 40k oil is enough for 120 UR with mvp rigging

[sweet delta]

0 oil is enough 💔

[viscid swift]

insert image here of lars doing the entirety of Meck's CDC from C1 farming

[sweet delta]

C1? What a tryhard

[silk helm]

c1 is actually so broken i hope they don't patch it

[rain bobcat]

nowhere near broken lol

[forest palm]

they did put 2-1 out to pasture

[ocean terrace]

probably a stupid question, but when pulling for ships, is there a good way of spreading out the builds? or do you just build 10, quick finish and repeat till you get the ships you want

[patent pivot]

There is no system. Its just rng

[forest palm]

that's kind of a personal preference

[ocean terrace]

I thought so, but asked just in case

[viscid swift]

I personally do 10 pulls until there's one ship left and then do singles to ensure I don't spend more cubes than necessary

[ocean terrace]

that's if you're able to pull for every ship though I guess

unless the Elite and SR ships are outstanding, I think I'll just go for Lexy II

[stark quiver]

kimocheese does 5 at a time when he has one or two ships left in banner

[forest palm]

I like band-aid ripping till I have'em all

[bleak junco]

Are you gonna grind for the porter too

[ocean terrace]

duh, free UR why wouldn't I
I was referring to ship pulling

[next escarp]

What do I get from project identity?

[bleak junco]

I know I just wanted to mention her hehe

[inland shoal]

A special secretary, happiness (debatable)

[next escarp]

No resources?

[inland shoal]

Nothing

[next escarp]

Waste of my time then

[inland shoal]

The entire game is

[hushed sorrel]

its a game after all. there is truth in that

[inland shoal]

Honestly it's kinda cute, but there's better visual novels with less tedious management out there

[hushed sorrel]

the novels do not reward you with some pictures! and a book to collect them all

[crude solstice]

Does anyone have a link to a tutorial on how to EXP farm BEFORE world 9? Or could tell me? I am trying to build Odin and need to “sortie and accumulate 1,000,000 EXP using iron blood main fleet”

Every tutorial I’ve been able to find online is outdated or for people past world 9 💔

[viscid swift]

https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/progression-guide/

[next escarp]

+6 gears good enough to clear W12?

[viscid swift]

I'd get some of the key pieces to +10 at least

[crude solstice]

Thank you!

[hollow gust]

the guide is just to not grind pre 9

[stone sluice]

I do 10 but cause over 2k cubes

[crude solstice]

NOOO, so sad. It’s taking so long to level up my commander level so im stuck waiting for world 8. I appreciate the info

[bleak junco]

I just do 2 at a time so I can see the build timer (If im already aware of which timers I’m looking for. Even then, I don’t want to use extra cubes lol)

[ocean terrace]

im planning to use my quick finishers though (have almost 200 of them) so I can pull the UR within a couple minutes

[bleak junco]

Yeah, you can see the timer before using them

[verbal plinth]

doing 10 at a time because its faster that way to hit pity because of my rng

[bleak junco]

I also use quick finishers so…..

[bleak junco]

I’m just curious. How unlucky are you and how many cubes do you have/are left with/spend lol

[verbal plinth]

only hit pity once iirc so not too bad lol

[stark quiver]

is there a low chance afct will be added somewhere in this upcoming 2 months

[rapid shard]

[stark quiver]

i need to +13 onigiri

[ocean terrace]

when would you use onigiri over toolkit?
as a 2nd aux for DDs?
there aren't better accessible options?

[stark quiver]

its not for pve

[next escarp]

200 cubes ready to be sent for pity pull

Is the new UR worth it tho?

[viscid swift]

what info on the new UR do we even have to make such a call

[ivory pawn]

She looks pretty?

[soft raft]

You also need 400 cubes not 200 for pitt

[verbal plinth]

by 3 weeks event you prob be close to 400

[stark quiver]

that its a new UR

[soft raft]

This isn't a 3 week event tho

[verbal plinth]

i thought it was gph said >.> mb

[rain bobcat]

it is

[soft raft]

Wait what

[rain bobcat]

[soft raft]

I thought that was CN and JP Anniv only

[rain bobcat]

not anymore

maybe they're gonna make all UR 3 weeks idk

[stark quiver]

i hope shes fucking terrible
then i dont need to fry my money on gems and rings

[verbal plinth]

oathing for meta will never turn out good

[stark quiver]

i oath to sync

[bleak junco]

Well you aren’t OBLIGATED to…..

[soft raft]

Isn't that the same thing lol

[stark quiver]

im no dirty noob so i oath either way

and its easier to copy and paste other peoples homework

[bleak junco]

True….

[analog tendon]

At least you only have to decide whether to oath or not. Here i am, about to get Porter, Lex II and my first Musashi....and with only 4 bulins available reeee

[verbal plinth]

its ok more you play you will stock up

[stark quiver]

tbf i still havent mlbed my i404 yet

[sweet delta]

I also haven't MLB'd a 404

[clear harbor]

Is there a significant jump in rewards for Hard mode W11 and W12 vs. W10?

[weary edge]

never thought id see a series in azur lane 😭

[sweet delta]

You can find the core data rewards on the wiki somewhere, maybe "Combat" page

[north gorge]

Does MLB for 404 make any difference to the cross fleet?

[sweet delta]

Doesn't matter for the debuff but matters for the damage, which isn't a lot anyways

[edgy carbon]

Is there any way to P2W this/speed it up or is this a long week+ grind

To fully develop*

[rain bobcat]

[sweet delta]

It's a week or more of grind

[north gorge]

Cool, can stay near bottom of my UR mlb priority then

[sweet delta]

It's a several months of grind to fully develop to dev 30

[verbal plinth]

yeah slowly work on it exp is the easy part

[edgy carbon]

This is grindier than most gacha games I’ve played, I can’t even P2W it but ty

[clear harbor]

Thanks. Didn't think to check there. It's listed in the rewards section for the campaign maps. Look like W11 is just + 2 core units per fight. Not sure about W12. There doesn't seem to be an amount listed for the latter.

[ivory sigil]

There is so many option

But 🏳️‍🌈Twin76 appear in all option so it has to be the best

[ivory sigil]

Yeah how coincedence i had been stareing toward the gearlab whole night hours ago about the AA thing

[ivory sigil]

But i can only craft gold 🟡 version... if i craft Gold ver of Twin57

Does that mean it still suck compare other stuff like rooba/twin105/staag/hazemayer?

[ocean terrace]

yes which is why it's not on there

[sweet delta]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/460645783021289472/1057181921542672394/image.png?ex=6942f523&is=6941a3a3&hm=2eed13a9c908f3cf16f6995ffb757101f38d4197eb603d69ee7d0f9ae66e99d0&

[ocean terrace]

same for previous versions of Wyvern for example, they are significantly worse compared to the end product so none of them are recommended to craft
until you can craft the final product

[wind hazel]

but according to ectl trash can lid is good accelerator

[ivory sigil]

So 1 of Best in BestAA
1 is 3rd best
What's bofor? There is so many AA with bofor name
Wait it is still the 1st best

[sweet delta]

Yeah it is quite decent among accelerators

[ocean terrace]

basically you need a gun that fires rapidly to lower the average fire rate of AA guns
that's why you don't use all 'best' AA guns for every slot

[wind hazel]

/wiki quadruple 40mm bofors

[odd root]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Quadruple_40mm_Bofors_(Mk_2_Mount)

[ivory sigil]

I do noticed the thing people use related to a AA gun with a redcircle that did NOT appear in any prior guide

Time fuze
That's its name
If they are use by end player why doesnt it appear in guide

[stark quiver]

You can get away with full twin 76

[ocean terrace]

is that ideal though?

[stark quiver]

Yeah

[sweet delta]

Is it though?

[wind hazel]

it's braindead good, but i'm not sure it's ideal

[ocean terrace]

plus if I could have the best gun for every slot for every ship, I think I would
it's more about using what I can get or have access to

[stark quiver]

Unless you min max aa for some reason then mix in some 57s

[rapid shard]

I thought sextuple on carry mixed with 76s was ideal AA setup

[rain bobcat]

it is

[ocean terrace]

the sextuple is to lower AA firing cd right?

[rain bobcat]

but depends if you have a very good AA slot good enough for sexy

[wind hazel]

no it's to boost the damage lol

[ocean terrace]

oh so it's short range

[stark quiver]

It lengthens the cooldown

[ocean terrace]

so 76s have high firing rate then I assume

[sweet delta]

Everything about sextuple except damage is worse than 76

[ocean terrace]

would you always position AA carry in the middle of vanguard then?

am I overcooking lmao

[wind hazel]

no, not a consideration at all. position is related to your ehp, and maybe skills

[sweet delta]

You're burning down the whole restaurant

[rain bobcat]

[stark quiver]

I won’t put Guam in the middle in a fleet

[ocean terrace]

fair enough, depends on the ship ig

[rapid shard]

Some AA carries can tank like Guam bit not Sandy (at least not for hard content)

[ocean terrace]

yeah I think I was only thinking of Sandy, that's mb

Gouden could be the AA carry too and she's tanky

so double 76 and a sextuple just balances having high dmg with fire rate and range then? compared to other variations

[atomic solstice]

Finally breached 300k, now i have to resist the urge to spend it all on gear and cog awakening

[wind hazel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/824459261487874098.webp?size=56&animated=true

[fleet marten]

Hello, planning to build Gouden Leuuw, despite knowing that they are usable at best on Dev 30.

Any comparison on how good is Gouden Leuuw compared to Guam?

Another Question will be how great is Mecklenburg better than Hakuhou in the Heavy Armored Boss fights?

[wind hazel]

basically guam's sidegrade

[soft raft]

Hakuhou VS Meck is kinda hard to answer with basically no context since they are not directly compareable

[fleet marten]

So they are transitional at best on each other's usefulness?

[wind hazel]

on paper meck's best fleet is stronger than hakuhou's best fleet

on practice too but we only have opsi boss to rely on

[wind hazel]

im not sure what you mean transitional

[sweet delta]

BBs only better against 80s

[fleet marten]

I see, but I have been hearing of BBs being better than CVs on Heavy, is it probably due to Lion and Zwei's compatibility with Meck?

[sweet delta]

But all the "hardest" boss content is 80s

[fleet marten]

Like, they are equal in terms of usefulness, but one can be better on one skill than the other?

[ocean terrace]

Guam is tankier with armour break, Gouden more light dmg

[wind hazel]

well i wanna say guam is slightly better, not because im biased...

[stark quiver]

gouden is fatter

[fleet marten]

Well thanks, just wanna know even the smallest things

[wind hazel]

but most of the time, their usefulness is really on campaign c13-15, that's it. both are good there, both are great picks, can't really say one is better than the other

[hollow gust]

Guam is significantly tankier,Gouden has far higher dps. Pick what you need

[hollow gust]

Most of the time in campaign considering the prevalence of ships like z52 Laffey Elridge, you don't need the bulk so Gouden achieves far more for the fleet

[fleet marten]

Also one last question,

I noticed that her skill uses the BB Volley skill, so is there a possibility of her jamming BB Sync timings, unsure on what fleet she's best at other than being good on light or just a Super Tank?

[soft raft]

she doesnt have a BB gun so no

[stark quiver]

it jams bbs yes

[soft raft]

Damn nvm 💀

[hollow gust]

Gouden can fuck with Bb timing , however her thing is more AOE dps . She won't usually be used in content where her jam affects BBs

[stark quiver]

gouden also has 700 avi

[wind hazel]

in campaign there should be only 1 bb in your fleet, dont worry about jamming that one bb

[ivory pawn]

Yeah her bombing raid replaces the BB button when it's available for some reason.

Why BB and not CV, I'll never know.

[soft raft]

That's wild lmao

[wind hazel]

should be extra button tbh

4th button beside sub button 🕹️

oh it's 5th... i cant count

[ivory pawn]

Just make it automatic tbh.

[wind hazel]

like ddg missile yeah

[sweet delta]

Fr we need separate buttons for subs, BB salvos, CV airstrikes, torpedoes, DDG missiles, Gouden airstrike, RPG Laffey meteor, and IXM salvos

[obtuse island]

doesn't that fuck up everything while bossing

[stark quiver]

perhaps

how good is meck d29

[soft raft]

only if you're syncing all 3 of your backliners together
Which 99% of the time is exclusively in OpSi

[wind hazel]

worse than dev30

[viscid swift]

not good enough

[wind hazel]

how far are you lol

thought you were like 50 bps away

[stark quiver]

i am 30 prints away bruh

[soft raft]

Still missing a MGM and 15% Efficency so womp womp

[wind hazel]

30 ez la. 3 days done

[stark quiver]

shes been sitting at 125/200 doing nothing

[wind hazel]

and tech

[sweet delta]

You can find st DMG for Gouden, Guam, and d29 Meck in this sheet https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wvigE4P1-2XUt3tnGuXKPeD-WiDtOxbm9GEkSeTO9mY/edit?usp=drivesdk

[obtuse island]

i mean, i guess it also affects META since you're loosing time for being desynced though idk if it would actually affect enough to loose a salvo or smth

[wind hazel]

lol had to scroll down to actually find dev29. dmg 1/3 of dev30

[soft raft]

lmao

[stark quiver]

💀

[fleet marten]

thanks for the heads up

[fleet marten]

W8 is this real?

[stark quiver]

yes

[soft raft]

yes

she has a airstrike

[wind hazel]

does the vanguard dps include aa dmg?

[hollow gust]

[fleet marten]

Ah, so she is a CB, that has an Airstrike, but uses the Volley Skill button, alright

[wind hazel]

yeah what about it?

[soft raft]

She's a CA

[ivory pawn]

63%, not 33%.

[wind hazel]

i see, ok.

[fleet marten]

I guess like Napoli

[stark quiver]

how to sync

[viscid swift]

get another Meck gun

[stark quiver]

good idea lets wait a month or two for that

[viscid swift]

I thought you were on gear focus

[stark quiver]

im not

[hollow gust]

He took a break like I did

[sweet delta]

on skill issue focus

[rain bobcat]

get better

[stark quiver]

does this work

[wind hazel]

only on Light lol

[knotty jolt]

That gun choice is exact to mine lol. personally was trying to find a way to sync them thanks for that.

[wind hazel]

considering we only use them at end game campaign, that doesn't sound like far higher dps

[ocean terrace]

^^

[rain bobcat]

no

[stark quiver]

i also cannot +13 any more guns for the next maybe half year

[wind hazel]

where did your plates go

+13 100kai 💀

[stark quiver]

2 100kais, plym guns, gold peashooter, and whatnot

[wind hazel]

u dumas

actually cursed 2 100kai

[stark quiver]

non believer

[hollow gust]

And the dps calculations is dependent on single target bossing? A significant amount Gouden dps is her airstrike , which has a worst hit rate against single target

Using bossing dps calculations to judge campaign ships is far less accurate

[wind hazel]

but that also means your gouden dmg is AA inflated...

which i guess means something in w15

[hollow gust]

what does that have to do with suchis boss dps calculations being inaccurate to judge campaign? not to mention you dont think Guam's is also inflated

[wind hazel]

well where's your calculation or tests, i wanna see

you can't just say gouden has far higher dps and not give any evidence

[sweet delta]

I say UR bulin has far higher DPS than gold bulin

[crude solstice]

Is there a way to get Z52 at the moment?

[ivory pawn]

Nope.

[sweet delta]

Only if you have a time machine at this moment

[crude solstice]

Aw okay, thanks guys

[ivory pawn]

Next year it'll rerun, probably.

Actually no, technically Jan 2027.

[crude solstice]

Heartbreaking lol

[hollow gust]

granted i cant run campaign right now since my gouden is mad at me , it doesnt really change the fact you provided a source that's not as accurate to the content

[wind hazel]

ok prove me wrong lol

i'll wait, ping me later

[soft raft]

Nop, you will have to wait for Fritz Rumey rerun (which intially ran Febuary this year)

[hollow gust]

even in content that gouden isnt suitable her damage output is quite sufficient in comparison to even plmmy and z52

as i did say, her dps is reliant on her hitting as much of her airstrike as possible, which is easier in campaign

[crude solstice]

Is the Tempesta event recurring too? I want Portsmouth so bad lol

[viscid swift]

They rerun October alongside the new Tempesta event

[soft raft]

read that very bottom sidenote

[crude solstice]

OH mb thank you I promise I’m not dumb

[soft raft]

Man are they just not gonna archive Blucher event lol

Noticed that's bee on the list for a while even as events that were after it got archived when I was pre-emptively removing Yk2 from it

[clear harbor]

Are URs added to the perma pool about every time there’s a UR event?

[soft raft]

No

[ocean terrace]

URs are perma added after release, 2 years for rerun, then 1 year for archive right?

[viscid swift]

roughly yes

[hollow gust]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FDg3xX5VCVEylpfDfCoxBMDYspjZAeXZR9kf9t01JQ8/edit?usp=sharing
Even in the couple of runs my fleet moral can take, there is a obvious beneficial upgrade from Guam to Gouden if we ignore the durability difference. The only reason its not even more skewed towards gouden is cause Guam got a insane run on boss 1

[clear harbor]

What’s archive?

[soft raft]

War Archive aka when a event gets peramently added to the game

[clear harbor]

Ahhhhhh

[ocean terrace]

what time is JP stream?

[verbal plinth]

stream says 7 more hrs

[ocean terrace]

so 9:30 GMT?

[verbal plinth]

think so? events tab on discord has your timezone and stream link

[ocean terrace]

oh fr? ty

oh so that's where you get the link lol
10am GMT then

[wind hazel]

for consistency sake you should remove the rpg tablet, let guam use same aux

[hollow gust]

although still cant exlplain why my z52 sucks ass in damage comparisons to gouden for yudachi meta

[viscid swift]

Max DD reload tech?

[hollow gust]

Wats max dd rld rn?

[viscid swift]

Uhhhh

[wind hazel]

27

[hollow gust]

I'm short then , although my z52 always run goldburn

I'm still trying to get back the shitty Dds that I deleted

[stark narwhal]

what UR should I get from the exchange?

[wind hazel]

got musashi?
no>get musashi
yes>max limit broken?
no>get more musashi
yes>get shinano or vanguard, depends on dock

is yk2 better to get than shinano nowadays? lol

[hollow gust]

In addition , max each ship before you move to next , and it's not really worth spending rainbow bulins on them

[viscid swift]

No

[hollow gust]

Yorktown is too investment heavy to use for single target,

[ocean terrace]

having to do 1600 daily pulls to mlb Musashi seems excessive

[hollow gust]

For nano two tenzen and a helldiver is enough

[wind hazel]

whats the general priority? musashi>shinano/vanguard>yk2>the rest? or even nj/uvh>yk2?

feel like yk2 is pretty good for campaign at least

[sweet delta]

So is independence

[wind hazel]

but you can use both!

[sweet delta]

And unicorn

[hollow gust]

Yorky is a higher prio then vanguard , she is capable in campaign, and with Essex Kai roaming around it's not that bad

[viscid swift]

Well until Implacable comes

[hollow gust]

Knowing how manjuu loves their BB we will get another one sooner then later

[viscid swift]

Then after her Bismarck Zwei

[hollow gust]

The fact that Bismarck can come back just mean vanguard gets pushed down faster then a CV

[ivory sigil]

why Chess divergent improve Iron blood tech and how to do it wisely?

[fleet marten]

Question, I have a Retrofitted Yatsen, is there any use for her other than buffing Ping Hai and Ning Hai?:

[wind hazel]

it drops a lot of ironblood ships. you get ironblood tech from obtaining new ironblood ships

[rain bobcat]

because it can drop german ships

[ivory sigil]

-# please i need somewhere to spam my oil that beside chapter11

So I need to get the Final stage and spam there?

[viscid swift]

just look at the number of IB ships that can drop from those maps

[rain bobcat]

the answer is nowhere

[ocean terrace]

you'll need oil for the UR event btw

[viscid swift]

she's a decent tank that needs to be run with another DE ship

[ivory sigil]

i reach capped passive oil

[wind hazel]

can use her+ddg/harbin for semi wall of china ish

[rain bobcat]

event til 55k>campaign w12-14

[fleet marten]

So basically if no DE, she is fodder? despite the Retrofit?

[viscid swift]

yep

[ocean terrace]

tbh I'd farm highest stage you can in campaign for coins
but if you want the faction tech ig it's not the worst idea

[fleet marten]

I'll take note of this

[ivory sigil]

hmm i checked the wiki and it does spread out instead of focus

[viscid swift]

this the only reason she's tanky
When the battle starts, if there are other Dragon Empery ships in your fleet: decreases your Yat Sen's, Ning Hai's, and Ping Hai's DMG taken by 8% (20%), increases their Evasion Rate by 15% (30%), and increases your Dragon Empery ships' DMG dealt by 1% (5%).

[wind hazel]

it's mostly rushing from hard map to D4, and farm there

[fleet marten]

Alright

[wind hazel]

you can low oil C maps if you want, if you can

[ivory sigil]

my ironblood tech is 80 and Flandre need 600

not kidding, i filter them and only 6 appear

[ocean terrace]

honestly is there nothing he can do about Flandre?

[wind hazel]

i mean why are you even gunning for flandre

[ocean terrace]

seems shitty that he's forced to focus Flandre if he's picked PR6 for commander handbook mission

[ivory sigil]

1day-Azurlane-experience player okay? even now if i switch to FDG it is still not enough bloodtech for 1

[ocean terrace]

also cos he focused her in research (I think)

[stark quiver]

flandres cute i understand

[ocean terrace]

how many flandre prints you got

[viscid swift]

meh, okay T8 BB

[ivory sigil]

FDG need 630 bloodtech tho

[ocean terrace]

cos it's gonna take you so long to get to Flandre with tech anyway, plus isn't she PR6? coinable soon?

[wind hazel]

i feel like your shipyard development is all over the place

[rain bobcat]

shimanto is there

[wind hazel]

ijn tech issue, most likely

[ocean terrace]

you need both IB and IJN right

[wind hazel]

i dont see any reason to aim pr6 ships when you dont even have roon done lol

[ocean terrace]

they have 80 IB tech and god knows how much IJN tech

[rain bobcat]

there's 0 reason to do flandre either because even monarch is better

[stark quiver]

theres also 0 reason to do monarch

[ocean terrace]

i thought flandre was a decent mobbing BB

[wind hazel]

she's good but not coinable yet

[stark quiver]

she is

[ocean terrace]

either way FDG clears no? and probably easier to get

[stark quiver]

ofc

[wind hazel]

not with 80 tech

like i said, go back to Roon

[soft raft]

Something something PR BB in a UR BB meta world

[ocean terrace]

@ivory sigil what does your other tech look like

[ivory sigil]

i get invited to Azurlane by a cute enjoyer player
i start play Azurlane due to a cute collab
so yeah I place my research on a cute ship in 1st day isnt different

I only start reading guide about Unicorn after 3rd day, formed a proper team after 7th day, and read research guide after 2nd week. (And flandre catchup already start at day1)

[wind hazel]

https://azurlaneecgc.com/fleet_technology/#kms

[ivory sigil]

Sakura tech? idk the fleet look like this

[wind hazel]

just follow this guide, it will beeline you towards the required faction tech

[ocean terrace]

it's not that bad tbh, I didn't have research focus or catchup for a week-ish too

[ivory sigil]

yeah i read them long enough to see Anchorage and FDG need to be priorized

[ocean terrace]

you can check in lab -> fleet tech, toggle faction

[wind hazel]

this is half true tbh, IJN will cockblock a lot of new players

[ocean terrace]

it's cos they drop from campaign right? EU and SE

[stark quiver]

they are locked behind shops n shit

[ivory sigil]

doesnt sound okay

[wind hazel]

yes, but often new players have difficulty reaching that 900 points

[stark quiver]

1 💀 is demonic

[ocean terrace]

with that sorta tech might as well go Monarch Anchorage or something idk atp

or wait ages to start developing someone lol

I mean they'll be getting a lot of ships from pulling this UR event, maybe it'll look different?

[ivory sigil]

yeah i would eventually locked by Flandre due to not having FFNF shipbased, while waiting for its event is no where to be seen
So i had switch my attention to Chessboard Divergent to improve my IronBlood with prior for FDG etc

[wind hazel]

maybe

[ocean terrace]

but their protocore gain is litte to none due to handbook restrictions (they chose PR6 ship to be completed)

[wind hazel]

just follow the guide, not that hard. just time consuming

[ivory sigil]

I can wait, like several Ironblood events maybe?

[wind hazel]

might as well skip FDG

[ocean terrace]

Anchorage seems doable tbh, USS event after all

[ivory sigil]

ok then

btw lets see how 3 meck in a row drop

[ocean terrace]

don't work on it directly for now, you're gonna get some ships from this event
plus you need to get to W12 first

[wind hazel]

bear in mind you still need to coin fdg, which takes at least 1month+ if you include catchup

[stark quiver]

my fdg is fs4

[wind hazel]

fo sho 4

[ocean terrace]

is her fs5 significant

how much longer is it to fs5 her

[wind hazel]

ye makes her dmg great

[viscid swift]

eh

[stark quiver]

it makes her worse at pvp

[wind hazel]

tehre's a graph on wiki i think

[viscid swift]

more like she just needs all the help she can get

[wind hazel]

well, great compared to herself at dev30. not to other ships

[wind hazel]

with musashi this is tbh the better approach lol, depends on your spcore i guess

[stark quiver]

holy fuck jimmy

[ocean terrace]

is FDG only good for campaign up until W14 lol
seems underwhelming for a UR BB, tho I guess she's old now

[stark quiver]

i need to do pvp tests

[wind hazel]

she's very good for w14, and she's well, UR BB for anything under

bottom UR BB but still UR BB

[ocean terrace]

but is she a campaign-only skewed ship

[wind hazel]

sorta

[ocean terrace]

oh she's an A for hard arbiter ig

[stark quiver]

shes a fine bossing bb for noobs

[wind hazel]

if you're using her for bossing, you're really desperate for good BB

[ocean terrace]

im tempted to use UR bulins on Musashi if feb UR isn't too interesting
(later down the line)

[stark quiver]

[ocean terrace]

we have a UR CV rn, Guam Laffey II in Jan, don't have opportunities to get a good BB

[wind hazel]

more like if lexII suck ballz, do it by tomorrow

[stark quiver]

i sure hope

[wind hazel]

me too

[ocean terrace]

no please be good

[viscid swift]

I hope she breaks your wallet

[stark quiver]

if shes good i need ring and skin
which i dont wanna do

[ocean terrace]

I'm willing to spend 400 cubes on you please be good Lex

[wind hazel]

dual skin for mommy tonight

[viscid swift]

exactly

[bleak junco]

Lexi2 has gotta be good…. I wanna use her since she looks super pretty and elegant and I like lexi so if she sucks then I might be a tad bit upset

Not like I can’t use her but if there are better ships that I have or can obtain then I don’t see the point

[ivory sigil]

ready to be disappointed

[eternal moth]

Sad Yorktown 2 noises

[viscid swift]

just set no expectations so you can't be disapointed

[eternal moth]

Not that Yorkie's bad, but she's really niche

Speaking of Yorkie, how's Yorkie Meta? Her skills don't really seem that exciting

[rapid summit]

Are Yorktown II Laffey II and Guam a boss or mob type of ship?

[soft raft]

Laffey II and Guam are quite flexible in both
I mainly see York2 only being used in Anti-light bossing but she could mob prefectly fine for most of campaign

[ocean terrace]

Hard to do when it's my first UR ship and UR event

[rapid summit]

Yorktown II is a Cv so she’ll be very good in w13/w15 right?

[mint fable]

So i notice that these same Rigging Analysis researches have different numbers on them, does it matter with the result?

[clear harbor]

The season (roman numeral) matters at least.

[wind hazel]

no. but also change away from focus 5 lol

[mint fable]

I still need the Plymouth gun atm, after that maybe going to 8 for the Meck gun

[onyx flame]

the first nmber after Q indicates the length of the research the 2nd and maybe the third tells you what type of plate it uses

[wind hazel]

you can get one from protocore shop

[onyx flame]

that and it prob coming to gearlab soon

[stark quiver]

soon :cope:

[onyx flame]

soon ™ trust

[spark patio]

i got all helena crytals so now i will have to move to the next META or stay grinding this?

[mint fable]

Just not sure how soon is that soon

[clear harbor]

So research gear is eventually added to Gear lab? I is that why the upgrad paths are kind of weird? Like guns upgrade into a differnt type instead of a higher tier of the same gun?

[stark quiver]

what will you keep grinding this for tho?

[wind hazel]

up to you really. they are permanent, rewards are also permanent, and the ships aren't really game breaking or anything

[onyx flame]

tbh even then your kinda shafting yourself by getting pr5 ship prints instead of pr8 since pr5 will be coinable soon as well

[wind hazel]

lots of cog ships there, i'd do them

[viscid swift]

well if the devs keep to their word their should be a gear lab update this month

[mint fable]

I don't really mind the blueprint stuff, but i understand your point

[stark quiver]

did they ever say they would always do an update on dec?

[rapid summit]

Is mecklenburg gun or triple 406mm a higher 13+ priority?

[ivory sigil]

about 163, i havent continue recently, but yeah i will eventually coin them, both shimano and flandre

Also these box tech open so dissapointing

[sharp socket]

+13 when you need it

[viscid swift]

yes

[eternal moth]

We'll probably find out more about the gear lab update on tonight's livestream

[sharp socket]

also triple 406mm can refer to anything

[wind hazel]

gold triple 406

[stark quiver]

wow

[ruby grotto]

Is the gold fire control radar better than the black pencil in bossing

[mint fable]

There's so many of them tbh

[clear harbor]

Is there one for each rarity?

[wind hazel]

usually yes

most of the time you'll be using control radar+white shell

[clear harbor]

The ability to fire early is better than the damage boost?