gameplay-help

[viscid swift]

in most cases when I help build fleets for OpSi, the 2 main boss fleets are either good enough to do it without a 3rd fleet or the options are all not brilliant so it doesn't do that much and almost doesn't matter what you use there

[upbeat wagon]

Is lion worth to 125?

Which ships in general are worth to 125?

[topaz smelt]

often times i find ppl build the bb fleet 1st and have fuck all for gear for a cv fleet and nothing good enough to build another bb fleet

[viscid swift]

Lion is absolutely worth 125

isn't it mainly just a lack of good fighters though

[mint fable]

Absolutely

[viscid swift]

because Helldivers are Helldivers and you can craft Tenzen Kais very cheaply in the lab

[topaz smelt]

they usually only have ryuus

and no stops

[nimble cypress]

Anyone? Affection is at 100 as well.

[viscid swift]

I mean yeah but there aren't that many to begin with

[topaz smelt]

try it and find out

[viscid swift]

so you either tell them to go get AvP or start leveling Ark Royal

[wind hazel]

you're so close to dev30 already might as well wait

[onyx flame]

only another 60 prints

[nimble cypress]

I just need another 34 prints; the grind

[topaz smelt]

so can we agree on 1-3, 5,6 are never focus?

[viscid swift]

yes

[topaz smelt]

7 is prob only if you have soy

but at the same time im a bayard simp

[cobalt robin]

that would be at least 60 days with my luck

[mint fable]

What's the best research for UR gear proto?

[viscid swift]

she'll get catchup soon

also Tohka from the recent DAL collab as about Bayard's level

[onyx flame]

real, looks at my meck

[topaz smelt]

well its 4 or 8, which has been my long standing debate for months

[viscid swift]

here's also another plague of CV fleets for new players

maintaining conceal is basically a wish and a dream

that cuts down on damage quite a bit

[topaz smelt]

you kidna just eat it in opsi

and its only on that 1 boss

[viscid swift]

yeah but on top of all the other difficulties

[topaz smelt]

i think d30 fdg,agir, avp unlocks meck

ye its either pr4 for gear + faster pr4 fleets or opsi the pr4 gear and rush 8

isnt that like 2-3 months of opsi for the gear

[quiet kiln]

Should i use AP or HE on mobbing fleet on world 13?

[viscid swift]

AP, 457 would be ideal

though triple CV is less hassle

[quiet kiln]

Im using musashi

Rest 2 is planes

[quartz breach]

Damn they weren't kidding about how heavily Eldritdge makes Wichita META easier.

[sweet delta]

Musashi uses twin 410 Kai as usual in campaign

[quiet kiln]

But i have daisen gun

[ocean terrace]

how long does it usually take for a new UR to be tested/tiered somewhat accurately?

[onyx flame]

daisen gun for w13+ mobbing

[sweet delta]

But +13 Daisen gun is about as good as +11 purple

[quiet kiln]

If i already have it anyway do i use kai or daisen for w13 mobbing

[sweet delta]

About 0 hours counting from when EN maintenance starts

[sweet delta]

Whatever makes your neurons activate more, there's really no difference In performance

[ocean terrace]

so you can tell just from reading skills and stats?

thought there'd need to be a couple tests and comparisons, or is that provided by other servers first

[sweet delta]

If they don't have new or difficult mechanics like minion summons or movement RNG, then the damage and tankiness can be calculated quite quickly

I can also immediately simulate most barrage shapes and hit rates

[ocean terrace]

so for someone like Lion, you just knew they'd be the best BB in the game before she even got in the game

[topaz smelt]

lion was a new generation of powercreep so it was very obv

[sweet delta]

No, she exceeded my expectations because devs just decided to not release moving bosses for the next several months after Lion

Nonmoving bosses with high vanguard pressure that made Eldridge an easy slot

[hollow gust]

Wasssup boo

What have you been cooking for yorky meta

[topaz smelt]

laffii + momo

[hollow gust]

Why mamo?

[topaz smelt]

bug abuse

[hollow gust]

lol

[topaz smelt]

its quite literally back to the drawing board if they fix it, otherwise its a free meta for everyone

[hollow gust]

I’m gonna brute force with Helena until the new URs come to powercreep the meta fight

[topaz smelt]

momo gives 2 helenas worth of value when paired with laffii

[hollow gust]

Tf

[topaz smelt]

ye its that broken

[viscid swift]

small issue is my Momo is level 80 something

[topaz smelt]

you got a week til 15

[onyx flame]

power lvl time

[topaz smelt]

that said, i havent tested it

[hollow gust]

[ocean terrace]

are there any real benefits to getting the meta ships or are they mostly for collection purposes?

[topaz smelt]

fleet tech

[ocean terrace]

meta fleet tech?

[viscid swift]

Glorious META is meta in PvP, and so was Jintsuu for a long time

[topaz smelt]

i thought that fell off already

[viscid swift]

what Glorious?

[topaz smelt]

ye

[ocean terrace]

I thought Jintsuu was meta in pvp atm

[viscid swift]

oh no, she's here to stay for now

[hollow gust]

Jinstuu and Yukikaze just trading

[topaz smelt]

i rmbr they were cooking kotori

and cat best comp

meta ships have been fairly competent lately

[stark quiver]

kotori kills seyd
but i think glorm kotori is a good match

Also

[onyx flame]

🔥 equipment

[topaz smelt]

must be nice to have good ships to level

[stark quiver]

who said i was leveling her

[topaz smelt]

famous last words

[onyx flame]

yea they also got lvl 120 tech, gotta get that sweet rld

[strange sphinx]

Momo is good with laffey 2? My 120 momo will need to be leveled again

[ocean terrace]

should I be focusing on meta stuff at all though as a new player

[stark quiver]

good metas are good

[ocean terrace]

like for dossier I picked Jintsuu since I've heard she's good in pvp but not sure if there's anything in particular I should be doing
also did a couple runs of YorktownM

[viscid swift]

meh, leveling 3 common DDs at once wasn't that bad

[topaz smelt]

its terrible when they release new backline ships that suck ass as well

[soft raft]

Fairly low priority for new players
At least they don't take up dock space anymore lol

[viscid swift]

I literally don't put offensive gear on new main fleet ships I level these days

[soft raft]

Elite ones are dog shit ass and the SR ones you need to grind your ass off to even MLB them

[topaz smelt]

i got reminded ships can die on tempesta

[stark quiver]

other than the 120 tech ships no

[ocean terrace]

I don't think I'll be doing that any time soon

[stark quiver]

theoretically i can test kotori +nakh/glorm but im lazy as shit

any news on gear lab update?

[viscid swift]

none

[topaz smelt]

ask again in a week

[stark quiver]

demonic

[strange sphinx]

what's the difference in stats between 120 vs 125 ships (Assuming it isbthe same ship)

[topaz smelt]

level gap multiplier, minor stats

[viscid swift]

see for yourself on ALDB
https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/ships

[soft raft]

PR7 catch-up soon right?
I wonder if I can get the cat to D30 with it lol

[fair lance]

I believe the last 2 levels are 90 and catchup is 150 so yeah

[stark quiver]

did you like quit the game blaster

[soft raft]

Mainly just been doing my dailies if I remember to since I've been busy for like the past year, esp after getting a job shortly after PR8 came out lol

[stark quiver]

job

[topaz smelt]

finally touching grass

[forest palm]

It's 30 + 30 + 90 which is 150 since and they need 146 from the looks of things

pretty sure 25 to 30 is 180

[fair lance]

Oh right

116 needed I believe 26+30+60

[forest palm]

I have a chart for this

[uneven knot]

can we please not say j*b in this server

[forest palm]

lemme see

[fair lance]

Oh it was 60 not 90 lol

[forest palm]

don't know where I got 90

[ivory sigil]

I skip all dossier cuz they dont sound strong
But wait does they give Coin in certain sync?

[rapid shard]

Some have good tech/niche uses. And there is various rewards but depending on state of your account they might not be worth thr effort early on

[ivory sigil]

-# U guys had a J*b !?

Should i build jean?

[onyx flame]

their pretty nice, got some retro print and yippee chips but well assuming you can clear it quickly

[ivory sigil]

I got Jean 2nd time already
I know my bossfleet vanguard is desperately need a UR looking one but Jean should between Portland and Yamai lv right?

[wind hazel]

jean or jeanne

[onyx flame]

considering their talking bout vanguard prob d arc

[ocean terrace]

think they're talking about the worse eldridge

from WA

[wind hazel]

build her if you need survivability in w14

[ocean terrace]

btw the only use she has is a defensive buff so don't expect damage or anything from her

[wind hazel]

also dont call her jean. call her jeanne or jda if you wanna shorten it

[regal crater]

That's new right?

[onyx flame]

ehh dont think so

[sweet delta]

whats new

[regal crater]

The rainbow book inhere

Have I never scroll up?

[ocean terrace]

maybe you just reached level 95?

[sweet delta]

If 4 years old is new

[regal crater]

Oh yeah

[ivory sigil]

Yea, if assume

vanguardfleet died in w14 does that mean gear suck or it was shipsuck? And JDA can solve it?

[ocean terrace]

she just gives shield/heal to your vanguard ships, 1 ship by itself won't solve your fleet

[wind hazel]

could be combination of all

[stark quiver]

how many morale is a 3x on 12-1 mob only with 2x logger

[rain bobcat]

darc

[ivory sigil]

1st time got the 30min research should i pick it?
https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/researches/id/1714

[fair lance]

Depends on how many cubes you have

[ivory sigil]

333

[fair lance]

Then no

[rain bobcat]

upto u

if it was meck I would've said yes but gouden is upto u. but also ur not safe for january rerun of UR with ur current cubes unless you sack it

[rapid shard]

Late response but I do agree but if your taking 6+ fights to clear each fight id say its better to hold off on them

[ocean terrace]

oh well I'll do the YorktownM fights till I can't do them at some point

[rapid shard]

Yorktown different than dossier, which us what i was referring to. You definitely want to do YorktownM or whichever Meta is up for that because they are limited. Dossier is permanent so no rush on those

[ocean terrace]

ah got it, though I assume they'll be similarly difficult for lvl 15? I don't do much damage to dossier boss (Jintsuu)

[onyx flame]

will have to see ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[rapid shard]

Various difficulty levels. Older ones are easier and each one usually has some kind of gimmick you have to build around

[onyx flame]

but prob will since york lvl 15 has like what 1.9m ehp? lmao

[ocean terrace]

yeah but I think I'd struggle with any lvl 15 meta boss rn

only doing YorktownM since she's low lvl atm

dossier is set to level 15 so it's pointless

[rapid shard]

Unless you got the top tier comps they always a struggle lol im just now at the point where its a 2 fight to beat them. You can request assistance to clear them if your struggling

[ocean terrace]

[rapid shard]

You can request world and guild help as well lol

[ocean terrace]

can't seem to request world, though I did send guild

[stark quiver]

avrora people 😭

[rapid shard]

If you was on lil E server id help out lol

What fleet setup are you using to fight her?

[ocean terrace]

I actually have an account on lil E since I thought I'd lost my account when I came back

[ocean terrace]

I thought this would be best with what I have

[woven star]

Best way ask for help in world.

[ocean terrace]

I don't see the option...

[rapid shard]

Enty is a bit of deadweight due to JintM being light armor. If you have a 3rd BB you'd probably be better off running triple BB with Mk6s

[onyx flame]

dossier only help option is friend/guild so yea hope your guild help ig

[ocean terrace]

my biggest problem atm is lack of good BBs

which is why I'm hoping for a UR BB but I doubt it

and I'll need 250 days for UR pity...

[rapid shard]

CVs can be good just require very specific planes for light armor dmg aka HVARs,

[ocean terrace]

yeah but they're not easily attainable are they

[rapid shard]

Not at the moment but possibly next update

[woven star]

Request help red button then world

[ocean terrace]

^^^

[rapid shard]

Dossier doesnt show world for me either. Just friend/guild

[woven star]

Ah. Ok.sry

Just put on auto. 15 min and all clear... isn't?

[sweet delta]

stock your war archive keys for hvar farm

[ocean terrace]

I thought gear farming isn't recommended, unless it's guaranteed drop

[gilded carbon]

Wich Hvar-Mounted Fighters will drop?

[rapid shard]

Watch them add it to gear lab with stupid high ord/elec cost

[rapid shard]

If they add HVARs that would be the exception to that rule

[ocean terrace]

oh they're that good huh

[rigid onyx]

if you didnt know that hvars are good they arent really the exception yet

[rapid shard]

Makes CVs very solid for Light armor bossing

[rigid onyx]

anti light rocket fighters for bossing

and pvp not exactly the most expansive

[ocean terrace]

bit more niche then

but probably necessary at some point?

[rapid shard]

For a Kear Yk2 Enty setup you need 4 total right?

[woven star]

Fritz

[rigid onyx]

they may be necessary but also you don't want to be the guy spending time in war archives for 3 months just for it to get added to gear lab.

at the same time i have no idea how they schedule rerun gear considering table still isnt anywhere

why enty over essex 🤔

[onyx flame]

or just run bbs

[woven star]

I think 5 with Essex retro. But Kear maybe want another fighter for synch

[rapid shard]

want to make Kear work in some decent way

[rigid onyx]

kear had her time ig

[rapid shard]

I got Essex retro just remember that being a common kear comp

[rigid onyx]

cope for fs

[woven star]

I think Kear need augment with slow or smthlike this

I almost can't imagine place for him in Essex, Fritz,York2, Implacable place

On any composition

[rigid onyx]

i mean honestly considering that eld is a USS vanguard slow that has high enough numbers for rocket fighters i dont think thats their major issue

[rapid shard]

I can cope with Eld slow for time being lol I just want to make Kear actually have a use instead of Secretary lol

[woven star]

Me too. I wish we have more BBV and SSV ships

[stark quiver]

no problem they will be useless to most players anyways

[rapid shard]

Long as its not Ords it wont be bad

[stark quiver]

itll be useless to you most likely

[rain bobcat]

it's not that great lol

CV light bossing is kinda cooked and york kear isn't anywhere near the top of ships you should get

[rigid onyx]

people were talking about bbs like that before lion and meck release icl

[rapid shard]

I just want to so I can actually use Kear in the one niche shes decent in. And currently thats one of the highest end teams I could run atm. I dont have any of the powerhouse UR BBs

[stark quiver]

kears niche got killed

[warm cliff]

what should i slap on nelson for the meantime

[rain bobcat]

alsace and zwei still outdamage light bosses

[rapid shard]

Dont have either of those

[stark quiver]

are you ready to spent around a third of a year farming hvars

[strange fable]

[rapid shard]

Ain't like I got much else to grind other than events and gold right now

[stark quiver]

900 runs for 4 and 1125 runs for 5 approx
you get 4 runs a day that can be doubled if you use 2x logger

[onyx flame]

twin 410, do you not have a 406mk6?

[stark quiver]

have fun
dont ruin your life over a few planes

[strange fable]

you are going to lose your hair like alpha losing his h

[rigid onyx]

fleet tech !! ! !

[stark quiver]

[rapid shard]

Its just gonna be 4 runs a day. Ain't gonna kill me lol not like im grinding for kaga/akagi

[stark quiver]

i did 900 runs in 5 days
or more like 450 runs in 5 days with loggers

[rigid onyx]

when you are 2 bps away from your first hvar and it gets released into gear lab

[stark quiver]

sounds about right

[warm cliff]

wait, this?

[rapid shard]

Yeah i damn sure aint grinding that hard for them

[rapid shard]

Yep just run that gun

[stark quiver]

yea lol
i slept and woke up every 20 mins

[warm cliff]

is my gearing good for pushing ch9 or nahh

[onyx flame]

if you got barrcuda i would use em over tenzans

[warm cliff]

wait let me take a look

i only have one, i put em on enterprise

[halcyon nymph]

Is Eldridge a good investment for newbies? Should I retrofit her? My current project is Independence.

[onyx flame]

do you have a retro item first and foremost

[ocean terrace]

she requires a unique retrofit item that's only available during an event

[halcyon nymph]

Is that a special item or something? I don't have it since I just recently started (DAL collab).

[ocean terrace]

forget eldridge then

can't be retrofitted without the item

[halcyon nymph]

I see. RIP 20k merit.

[ocean terrace]

oh you bought her from that shop

[halcyon nymph]

Yes. I read some guides that said she's good.

[ocean terrace]

one of the best vanguards if she's retrofitted

but that event was a while ago, I missed it too dw

[rapid shard]

Her retro item should either be reran or added to shop around August-September

[onyx flame]

most likely added to shop since it reran last anni

[ocean terrace]

perfect, better start preparing now!

[rapid shard]

Yeah I think shop but if I say shop they will rerun event just so im wrong

[ocean terrace]

how does that work though, do they just add retrofit items in order of release

2 years after its initial release

[wind hazel]

a year

well yes 2 year of initial release

[woven star]

Not often this happens

[wind hazel]

event
rerun next year
archive next year

[ocean terrace]

the devs love their 2 year cycles huh

[wind hazel]

just for retro item

[woven star]

Still waiting AFCT in shop

[ocean terrace]

what about perma addition of UR

[rapid shard]

So Lion rerun should be year and halfish from now?

[wind hazel]

other event is
event
rerun 2 years later
archive somewhere next year

[ocean terrace]

ah got it

[wind hazel]

^ UR is same, except archive less than a year

[rapid summit]

Does Alsace and mogador rerun halfway through 2026?

[wind hazel]

most likely

[rain bobcat]

high chance

[rapid summit]

Any Ur rerun happening in the first quarter of the year?

[rain bobcat]

soy

[wind hazel]

Guam

[rapid summit]

Soyuz?

Guam cool too

Okk ty

[rain bobcat]

guam is early as hell, probably january. Soyuz comes a few months after

[wind hazel]

yes, last i checked, january is first quarter of the year

[ocean terrace]

if my research prio atm is FDG then Agir/Anchorage, what would I focus on after?

[wind hazel]

avp

[rain bobcat]

avp

[ocean terrace]

then?

[wind hazel]

plymouth

[rain bobcat]

hakuryuu/plym

[ocean terrace]

so PR7/PR8 comes a long while after

[rain bobcat]

coining prio is not the same as research prio

please don't mix up research focus and catch up focus/coining focus

research focus relates to what season you actually pick on ur research tab, and it should be set to 8 for a long ass time

[ocean terrace]

yeah my research focus is on PR8, I'm just asking about which ships I'd get to actually develop

like the order of which ships I'd attain and dev30

[wind hazel]

avp>ply>shimanto>nakhimov>the rest

[strange fable]

what about the gear husky

[rain bobcat]

avp>ply>shimanto

[ocean terrace]

I have no clue how research gear works

[woven star]

Good to have one SR and one DR for coining

As the both have discount

[rain bobcat]

shimanto is my goat

[onyx flame]

always sucking money

[ocean terrace]

I'm just doing research lab stuff hoping I get the gear at some point

at least I have like 5 meck gun prints somehow

[ocean terrace]

even with Soyuz rerun timing, Nakhi's prio isn't that high? is that cos of fleet tech or shimanto/ply is just that much more useful

[strange fable]

you gonna have higher chance on getting meck gun research if you set on PR8 priority, and lower/near no chance on getting PR4/5/6 featured gear

[rain bobcat]

meck is simply better

[rapid shard]

Ply will be coinable in a month or so *should be

[wind hazel]

that is with consideration that soyuz is rerunning by the time you're doing nakhimov

[ocean terrace]

is that important though, as long as I have Soyuz in dock, does it matter if it's aligned?

[sinful relic]

im unsure if im doing this correctly, should i 5 star the regions?

[rain bobcat]

not at all

if anything you would be running zwei soyuz meck by that time with no place for nakhimov

[ocean terrace]

shame, I really like Nakhi

[strange fable]

i mean you can run soyuz and nakhi together

[ocean terrace]

but that's why I'm focusing PR8 since Meck is just better

[wind hazel]

wdym aligned

[rain bobcat]

could use her. It's noticeable but not horrifyingly worse

[wind hazel]

you got zwei lion?

[ocean terrace]

well you say 'by the time you're doing nakhimov'

[wind hazel]

yes, since focusing pr7 also give you la9, which is needed for them to be potent

[ocean terrace]

if I pull for Soyuz when she reruns, there's no worry about needing to time when I'm developing Nakhi no?

[wind hazel]

otherwise they are kinda mediocre damage with bf109g lol

you need nakhimov blueprints

her blueprints dont come free, it takes time

[keen owl]

I cant 1 round renown META who should i switch here?

[ocean terrace]

oh your worry is I'll get Soyuz too early before Nakhi is useable

[wind hazel]

fastest is 3months, 4 month average, 5 if a little slow

maybe faster than 3months if you cube but i dont see that viable for you

[rigid onyx]

doesnt nakh catchup come out in jan

[ocean terrace]

I mean I want her at some point, but it's a distant dream I guess

[ocean terrace]

not with dec UR and Guam coming up

[rain bobcat]

I don't think 4 month is average for a DR30

[wind hazel]

out of the required 500+ lol

[rigid onyx]

150 out of 500 is almost a third

[wind hazel]

and it still takes months what is your point

[rigid onyx]

?????????/

[strange sphinx]

[rain bobcat]

150 cuts like 1 month off the 6 month average technically

[wind hazel]

you're saying like the catchup gonna magically finish nakhimov's BP requirement

[strange sphinx]

Waiting game

[rain bobcat]

esp if ur doing gear as well

[rigid onyx]

blud gave monthly cutoffs for speed and now is pretending he doesnt care about accuracy

[wind hazel]

what the fuck are you on now

you're really not making any good point here. what exactly are you trying to say

is the 3/4/5 months too slow for you? or too fast? dont give vague shit and stir things up

[ocean terrace]

so essentially, I'll be focusing PR8 for aaaages to come, getting both Meck, Gouden and the gear in PR8

[rain bobcat]

well ideally before you even finish meck you should have 1 and some guns already

[ocean terrace]

finish as in developing her?

[rain bobcat]

no, 30

[rigid onyx]

you throw out the 3/4/5 number forget about nakh catchup and then act like the 150 bps are inconsequential

[wind hazel]

dev30= finish

[strong tartan]

thats usually how it goes with pr research

[strange sphinx]

Does The PR8 UR gun good?

[ocean terrace]

and I'll be working through coinable ships in the meantime right?

[wind hazel]

answer this

is the 3/4/5 too fast or too slow?

[rain bobcat]

on pristine pace you should be 1.5-2 guns before finishing meck

[strong tartan]

champ gun on steroids if I remember correctly

[ocean terrace]

on average, how many coinable PR/DR ships would I finish before I finish Meck? (just curious)

[wind hazel]

can't say

[rain bobcat]

[wind hazel]

depends on too many factor. faction tech, how many bp you spend, etc

[ocean terrace]

would I get through FDG and the PR4 ships

[strange fable]

no need to rush husky

[rain bobcat]

a newbie finishing a new season vs a vet finishing a new season are 2 completely different things. also, the amount of coins you spend daily for coining is a factor

[strange sphinx]

depends really if you got something that will boost it or not

[rigid onyx]

i mean assuming the bottleneck is 10 bps/day you'd spend 4-5 months on meck with gear focus

[woven star]

It's even depends how many coins you spend on coinable ships.

[wind hazel]

@rigid onyx answer

[rigid onyx]

just simple algebra at that point but idk if you're doing fs5, drs, etc

[ocean terrace]

I know I just wanna get a good feel for research in general

it was confusing as fuck when I first tried to learn about it

[rain bobcat]

I got meck d25+first gun in 3 months

[woven star]

Meck project prints sometimes cost a lot of coins. And it's all depends how many coins u get per day

[sinful relic]

im looking at gear lab, what would you guys recommend for tohka and alabama in terms of main weapons? im getting a little confusedon what i should go for. im looking at the guide but still unsure

[rain bobcat]

roughly almost 5 months for meck d30 and around 30 something more gun prints maybe

[muted wind]

i'd defensively say 2-3 ships in the time to dev 30 meck. coining can be a fair bit faster, but you might also just run out of coins, and it very much depends on how lucky you are with meck, what research you actually take, how many coins you're willing to spend etc

[strange fable]

Alabama? you can start with purple triple 406mm mk6, from tech boxes

[sinful relic]

i already have that one.

[wind hazel]

alabama mk6 for HE,
flandre/champagne for AP
tohka just use eugen gun until you can get hindenburg gun from proto

[sinful relic]

eugen? alright.

[onyx flame]

or if you got unzen gun slap that on her

[rain bobcat]

send AA plates plz

[wind hazel]

deez

[sinful relic]

def dont have that

[rain bobcat]

rainbow gun expensive

[strong tartan]

is the kursk gun available in any way

[sinful relic]

alright thats good to know'

[strong tartan]

just out of curiosity

[wind hazel]

think it's still tied to event

[onyx flame]

hasnt been perma yet so

[strong tartan]

right

[strange sphinx]

Send Plane plates first Also is there a news about the UR dec or I'm out of touch?

[wind hazel]

mf really dodged the question and fucked right off

[strange fable]

lmao

[onyx flame]

no yet cn stream on the 15 so that prob when we might get first peeps

[strong tartan]

no but positive the faction will be eagle

[wind hazel]

nakh getting catchup at most gonna reduce 3/4/5 to 2/3/4. what is the fukcing point.

still gonna take him months

[rigid onyx]

mf is really trying to argue in a gph chat about semantics

[rain bobcat]

lexi 2 is most likely in the event is one thing

[strong tartan]

let's fucking go

[wind hazel]

brother it was you who brought up the 150 and bitched about my accuracy, now you wanna talk about semantic without explaining yourself?

[rain bobcat]

fuck lexi 2

[strange fable]

which fuck

[strong tartan]

oh nevermind I thought we were for her

[strange sphinx]

so assuming it is eagle in dec and jan is also UR eagle rerun, Interesting

[rigid onyx]

somebody talking about d30 nakh and i bring up the fact that 150 bps will be 'free' in a month ish and you're acting like that isnt extremely significant

[rain bobcat]

CVs are either good on 1-2 armour or irrelevant to the endgame meta

[strange sphinx]

isn't Lexi 2 is much earlier than YK 2, In real history I mean?

[wind hazel]

you're missing the bloody point. it will still take months for him to finish dev30 nakhimov. that is the point. he needed to re-focus back on 7 if he wanna utilize nakhimov+soyuz combo by the time soyuz rerun. please read the context before talking without thinking

[rain bobcat]

key evidence: hakuhou being useless because BB outdamages anyway

[strong tartan]

yes it'll be weird if it isn't eagle this time around, considering the entire lineup for the call to arms is completely eu

[muted wind]

the essex class ones?

[strange sphinx]

yeah

[onyx flame]

in the end its all esses

[muted wind]

do you wanna uh what

[rain bobcat]

no, or depends what you mean, launched first or do you mean lexington 1 died first

[strong tartan]

yea cuz lex sunk b4 york but thats besides the point

[sinful relic]

which series is the hindenburg gun again?

[wind hazel]

6

[scenic mesa]

Which of these are decent

[wind hazel]

but you can buy from protocore shop later on. no need to focus 6 to get it

[onyx flame]

oh no a gold twin 410

[sinful relic]

was it one of these two?

[wind hazel]

uh, what

[scenic mesa]

Also is it Ok to +13 ryuuseis?

[strong tartan]

those are both sidegrades of eachother lol

[muted wind]

those are the flandre and champ gun lol

[ocean terrace]

those are AP BB guns

[strange sphinx]

ahm lunched

[woven star]

Blue prism. Usually u want see it on CA/CL etc with low eva stats ships

[elfin hollow]

Do i have enough blueprints for shimanto ?

[wind hazel]

if you use them, yes

[scenic mesa]

Thanks

[wind hazel]

generally start +13 your TB that you use the most

[rain bobcat]

then lexington 2 launched first before york 2 because york was delayed for some reasons

[sweet delta]

there is a ryusei kai

[strange sphinx]

question 2, who is the most priority to be leveled in DAL collab ships?

[wind hazel]

the one you use

[rain bobcat]

tohka/kurumi

[ocean terrace]

it's the bottom one here

[strange fable]

mori still remember this? 8 months and im stil 42/50 on the la-9

[sweet delta]

kurumi if you want to do better against yorktown meta

[wind hazel]

just wait for archive at this point

[rain bobcat]

basically impossible unless you were throwing but unlucky if you weren't

[onyx flame]

3 bps short of fate sim 5 but basically there, you do want fs5 shimanto thou

[wind hazel]

i mean added to proto/gear lab or something

[rain bobcat]

nah finish it lol

[rigid onyx]

only 2 years probably

[wind hazel]

feels kinda ass going back just to get the 8

[strange fable]

how do i throw my guy :(

[rain bobcat]

1 vs 2 is still a big difference

[scenic mesa]

These are really helpfulq

[rain bobcat]

depends if you use nakhimov/fritz though

[ocean terrace]

yeah I have it saved lol

[scenic mesa]

Thanksam

A lot

[woven star]

And Baracuda TB for mob fleet also not bad if you ar beginner and don't get better parallel TBs

[elfin hollow]

Im at mid 2 xp gathering and i finish her ,so i will be no problem getting more until so. As i farm with shimakaze ,unzen and sakawa

[onyx flame]

im more worried about how your getting shimanto bps

[woven star]

@scenic mesa check there for mo information https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide/

[scenic mesa]

How dumb are my equipment choice?

[wind hazel]

are you crunching the numbers? is 1shot with kurumi alone enough without helena?

[scenic mesa]

[strange fable]

you can change soyuz gun if you have better one

[sweet delta]

please remove my yuudachi pin and add this to yours or pin this https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uU-t3CrFFpKFrheOUHSNHysDfb86P11OztobBlAWWK8/edit?usp=sharing

[woven star]

Z52 imo wrong AA and main gun and many more others things

[wind hazel]

using kurumi without augment

[strange sphinx]

Catch up probably

that's a very Strange choice indeed

[scenic mesa]

Which would you recommend?

[onyx flame]

i mean that fine but thats only 300bps they got 505

[wind hazel]

this looks cursed

[woven star]

I have another question. Why your response appears before his. Future prediction?

[wind hazel]

you're lagging

[woven star]

Seems so

[onyx flame]

discord being discord refresh time

[wind hazel]

i wrote that after reading his doc

[woven star]

Make a thread but before read that guide. Maybe you change some gears before asking why

[weak elk]

why are repair ship bad

[strange fable]

would be cool if they heal mid battle

[woven star]

FuMO really great vs this Meta?

[knotty jolt]

They don't do damage and majority case if you can kill the enemy before they kill you, you're doing good

[inland shoal]

Surely an interaction devs thought about

[gilded carbon]

How useful would an UR AA-gun be for Ch. 13 prog on Sandy

[upbeat wagon]

is most optimal way to use research 4 blueprints is to convert to protocore

[gilded carbon]

Or is a gold onr fine on her?

[knotty jolt]

I mean a UR would be strong but a gold works fine but depends on which cause not all gold is equal

[gilded carbon]

I have most gold ones and can make the ones im Missing for the most Part. That should hopefully not be the Problem

[knotty jolt]

If you wanna put a rainbow aa gun on her go for it

[gilded carbon]

I was thinking of making one, but its a costly Investment. Wich gold one is prefered on Sandy?

[knotty jolt]

i'd use sextuple bofors but that's just me probably a better choice

cause ik it's abit slow on fire rate iirc

[sinful relic]

is main story and dailies the only way to get the upgrade things for gear? im lacking so many purples.

[gilded carbon]

Noted. I think she has a Roomba right now, but that is a quick Change

[woven star]

guild shop or medal shop but only if you have a lot of this currency. and meaning a lot of medal I mean near 400 or more

[sinful relic]

guild shop ive gotten allot but im unsure if im supposed to use it on anything.

[woven star]

just play story lines. you don't need top gear until chpter 10

[sinful relic]

im at 10-2.. with one fleet...

[woven star]

you can begin to make second

[sinful relic]

theyre not having any problems now honestly, but i do want to finish upgrading everything to 10+ beffore i work on my 2nd fleet. however im not gonna be pulling (unless dailies) until the UR.

[scenic mesa]

Alright thanks

[woven star]

opsi, guild operations have a lot of drop gear parts too

[sinful relic]

because i wish to build my fleets knowing what the UR is. because theres no point in pulling/making my 2nd fleet without knowing for sure what it is.

am i wrong for thinking that way?

[inland shoal]

I mean you don't need to immediately build a 2nd fleet anyway

[sinful relic]

gonna try to push towards 11-1, tested 10-2 on auto and im pretty much doing fine. not losing anyone and not going below half health for any of the ships.

i thank all those who helped me with gear.

[ivory sigil]

opsi

[sinful relic]

ive been doing it, but i need to push campaign a little more.

[woven star]

Opsi is a good reason to have few fleets. But it's slow process so...

[inland shoal]

In OpSi one good fleet is still better than 2 half assed fleets

[rain bobcat]

wait why are we using 2 460s

[sinful relic]

yeah i dont exactly have the gear to make a decent 2nd fleet atm. im barely getting any tech boxes so il slwoly working on my current gear and pushing opsi.

[ivory sigil]

Campain opsi is like newbie
once you reach
-Stronghold (redstormy),
-Abyssal (lv5-6 redchest),
-HardArbeiter(MiddleStorm)
you will understand the needed of 4teams

but yeah let's just stick with 1.5-2 team for now, it's our 1st month in game anyway

[sinful relic]

i dont really understand oppsi apart from scanning and taking out ships so uh yeah.

[woven star]

Except Arbiter one good fleet with heal can handle all other

[sinful relic]

i only started opsi yesterday because i wasnt sure if my ships were good enough yet

[rain bobcat]

oh momo syncing for 460

seems criminal but if it works it works

[onyx flame]

basically for new player in opsi your main goal is to try push and clear chapter 4 of the story to unlock the full version of opsi that resets monthly

[woven star]

do you have Unicron retro?

[sinful relic]

yeah i do.

[sinful relic]

ohh

[woven star]

so it's fine

[sinful relic]

i hate the fact i need to do a stage 3-4 times now for it to let me do the next one on main

[onyx flame]

5 clear to 100% 12-4

[sinful relic]

bruhh

[muted wind]

don't worry, you will be there for a while anyways

[onyx flame]

More like forever

[woven star]

yeah. chapter 12 can be a real challenge for first time

[muted wind]

-# i was more so implying that it will be the best grinding spot for most stuff

[sinful relic]

my ships area a tad overleveled for the campaign opsi but it works out in my favour since i can just breeze through it.

[woven star]

so push as far as you can with one fleet... maybe until w12-4

[sinful relic]

morale would be the problem honestly, i just push until morale is gone LOL

[woven star]

get your fleet at lvl 120 then swap all ships except uni and level rest for secon fleet

btw make sure that you dropped stage threat level to safe before you will grind level on other ships

[ivory sigil]

• Stronghold: (easy) (weekly) (auto-able)

  • Drop great stuff for GearLab on whole map
  • appear max 3 redstorm on anywhere on zone, but appear 1 per week,
  • require you to clear all the surrounding ship to open the boss in middle,
  • boss require to hit manytime if fleet get defeated
  • you can return to port in anytime to fix your fleet to heal full

• Abyssal: (decent) (random)

  • Drop great stuff for GearLab for every 25% hp boss beaten
  • boss require to hit manytime if fleet get defeated
  • you can't return to port after enter,
  • if get defeat middle of fight,
    • (recommend) use other fleet (use the 2ndfleet 1st to discover their weakness)
    • (recommend) use heal box and fight 2mob ship standing outside using side road to recover LowResolve
    • (last effort recommend) Rest with 50AP (once every 8 hours)

• EasyArbieter (Harsh) (monthly)

  • Drop incredible stuff for GearLab for every 20% hp boss beaten
  • boss require to hit manytime if fleet get defeated
  • you can return to port in anytime to fix your fleet to heal
  • timer for boss last 1 month, recommend to beat them once per day, using free Fleet redeployment to save some heal

• HardArbeiter

  • Reward every 25% HP beaten from boss
  • RETURN TO PORT WILL RESET ITS BOSS HP, not us.

[woven star]

last case with Hard Arbiter doesn't work if you want defeat him you must make it at once using all fleets which you have without leaving map

[sinful relic]

i bookmarked this so i know

[safe nexus]

is prototype triple 406mm/45 MK7 main gun mount good?

[rain bobcat]

no

[safe nexus]

sad ty

[sinful relic]

should i?

[hollow narwhal]

no need to reroll in this game right?

[sinful relic]

no unless you spent your gems wrong i think

[onyx flame]

its really up to you

[sinful relic]

maybe the hidden materials

[onyx flame]

pulls dont come quick in this game so rerunning wont net you much
https://azurlaneecgc.com/newbie_tips/

[ivory sigil]

pick any, it doesnt matter much, just RNG
have you unlock Auto-search in opsi yet?

[sinful relic]

not yet

[safe nexus]

i got this, who can use this? none of my CA can use so i want to know some mentions

[safe nexus]

ok ty

[ivory sigil]

thanks him

[safe nexus]

i thank both

[ivory sigil]

hmm did you craft it from your depot? cuz it was a gun from goudenleeuw

ouch

[safe nexus]

i craft thinking i can use it :D

then i cant find anyone able to use it

[onyx flame]

its only uses is on those aforemention ca or cb if you dont have unzen gun against light anyway

[umbral briar]

ask, look at how often it is used, which is better Z52 or Trafalgar?

[safe nexus]

i ran out of AA tier 1 gun part, wats the recommended way tpo get more

[onyx flame]

there really isnt it just grind campaign and hope

[rapid shard]

Just grinding campaign

[safe nexus]

any?

[onyx flame]

it t1 so it shouldnt be too bad

as long as it chp 12 and below since they can all drop t1

[safe nexus]

alright thx

[ivory sigil]

based on Endgame tier list:

Idk what exactly the question it almost seem like question wasnt complete but it seem Z52 was more recommended... (except the EX part )

[sinful relic]

since i havent exactly started on saint louis properly can i just change to roon?

[onyx flame]

i mean you dont even meet the req so

[sinful relic]

im about to

[onyx flame]

you could but tbh it doesnt matter too much cause you wont be focusing on it till your in w12 anyway

[sinful relic]

yeah thats what i thought, i jsut want roon more than saint louis because of the roon and hans meme

okay i switched to roon.

by the time i get to w12 i should have all her things unlocked so it works imo

[lucid orchid]

fleet xp farm at opsi or 12-4 stage better

[onyx flame]

12-4 opsi is a trickle of xp

actually 12-1 if you want more exp

[ivory sigil]

So new UR is release on 17th right?
Do we able to know anything about UR before the day 17th?
like 1 week before release or 1 day before release about her visual/ skill/ datamine or something?

[wind hazel]

there will be stream about it, newest info will be there

[onyx flame]

cn got a stream on the 15

[wind hazel]

https://game.bilibili.com/blhx/2025sd/?spm_id_from=333.1369.0.0

maybe copied wrong link

[lucid orchid]

12-1 for xp, how about money, desperate for money now

[wind hazel]

https://live.bilibili.com/7761331?spm_id_from=333.1369.0.0

[onyx flame]

12-4

[lucid orchid]

kk

[inland shoal]

In summary we will know the event ships and skins 2 days prior, rough stats a bit early thx to hexas, the actual kits on the morning of the same day once CN patch hits

[dawn spade]

which frontline spot is the safest from bullets, the second or third? it feels like its the second (middle) where they're kinda protected the most but i figured i should make sure

[wind hazel]

middle is often safest

[onyx flame]

sandwiched so the 2 sides take the hits instead unless ai decide aight ramming time

[forest palm]

the thing that confuses me is that there's a JP stream on the 17th

[agile patrol]

would using an orange shell + HSFCR be better than AP white + HSFCR for lion?

[wind hazel]

it can be, on average it won't be

[agile patrol]

ohhh :(

[warm cliff]

is san diego a good investment

[barren cedar]

Should I start buying those blueprints??

[weary gust]

No. Save enough to buy all 50/50 prints of the UR weapon at once.

Tenrai first then Quad gun.

[barren cedar]

ty so much

[onyx flame]

more like get the ap guns first only buy tenrai/ply if you know you can buy enuf at once to make it

[exotic temple]

Who should I go for people?

[wind hazel]

usually newbies start on louis, and forget about this entirely until chapter 12

[exotic temple]

Okay thanks

Well I can start on her then but I can wait

[wind hazel]

just press that develop button, come back and finish the rest later

[exotic temple]

Ok will do

[wind hazel]

you will probably finish the combat data collection 1 along the way, submit so that collection 2 can start. or you can do that later too, not too big of a difference once you reach ch12

[exotic temple]

Appreciate it

[barren cedar]

which of those weapons work with musashi? wanna upgrade her

the ability reads that she needs a specific weapon but idk which and how to get it

[ivory pawn]

None of them.

[wind hazel]

ignore middle

[ivory pawn]

Just use a purple Twin 410, you get it from Sakura tech boxes.

[barren cedar]

thank you all, helps a lot

[safe nexus]

Please help with my fleet in OpSi

[velvet slate]

i have a question about the mechanics of yorktown meta

Description of the boss says that the boss has a 60% damage reduction but you increase your damage by 15% for each of your ships, up to 12 stacks.

how do you get 12 stacks if you can only field 6 ships.

Through summons?

like for exampel 2 xtra stacks from laffey's bunbuns and one from bismarck's dragon?

[strange sphinx]

yes

Momo

who's ship have the most summons?

[knotty jolt]

Kurumi

[strange sphinx]

how many summons?

[knotty jolt]

3

[strange sphinx]

ic

so hypothetically we have 6 ships and 3 of them have summons (E.g. Momo, Lala(does she right or no?), Kurumi)

momo have 2 and kurumi have 3 so even one summon will stack the buff right?

[knotty jolt]

we can quite comfortably get to twelve but chinese got some teams already theorized on and it doesn't really focus on summons

[strange sphinx]

hmmm ic

What's Yk's armor?

[knotty jolt]

medium

this is what the CN people cooked up for this meta fight

[strange sphinx]

so mostly BB hah

man I missed that UR vanguard

[rain bobcat]

that's because BBs are just better

[strange sphinx]

well there's that

[mint fable]

Why Lion use black shell here?

[knotty jolt]

Ask the chinese or people who know better then me

[mint fable]

[strange sphinx]

Sigh, If only Hiryu can be added to that team for lols

[ivory sigil]

Does the event about 20% exp to hornet enterprise helena is necessary to build them?

[strange sphinx]

well Why Are you not building helena?

[knotty jolt]

Just means faster leveling

[strange sphinx]

[ivory pawn]

It’s nice if you’re already leveling or plan to level them, but it shouldn’t influence your leveling plans.

[strange sphinx]

where's my Lexi 2 or for memes, where's my Enty 2

[rain bobcat]

hit already capped

[stone sluice]

I self-imposed the challenge of beating every hard boss/content without Helena so I gotta try something else

[strange sphinx]

[undone plover]

The presence of helena disturbs me

[knotty jolt]

I'm planning lion, meck, zwei, kurumi, kirov meta, eldridge

[undone plover]

Is it for consistency or is one shot impossible without her

[rain bobcat]

consistency, probably only needs 1 proc max

[stone sluice]

For Yorktown meta?

[knotty jolt]

I mean, 60% damage reduction is alot

[undone plover]

[knotty jolt]

even if we were to cap out on the damage buff for unit count

[stone sluice]

I’ll figure it out

[undone plover]

Realistically it is 17% buff for our team if I am not mistaken

Or did I math it wrong again

[knotty jolt]

quick question: do slows stack? If so multiplcatively i'm assuming? (example: Kirov meta skill coordinated dance and kurumi's time eating castle)

[undone plover]

Nvm I did math it wrong it is 22% debuff at 6 ships

Similar to poiM iirc

[topaz smelt]

Lol Helena

[undone plover]

Slows do stack up to a cap
Forgot the exact number

I think 80% was max slow?

And yes it is multiplicative

[undone plover]

@inland shoal this correct?

[knotty jolt]

imagine additive, the shenanigans we could pull

[topaz smelt]

Doesn't matter since there's a cap

[undone plover]

No I meant is the cap also correct at 80%?

[topaz smelt]

Ye

[undone plover]

[knotty jolt]

ye even with a cap additive would be interesting cause from what i can tell whenever we need a slow we dont stack them typically and instead pick the highest value and roll with it

[velvet slate]

do you guys know if guam's gundam counts for a stack of buffs ( i presume it doesn't since it is just her riggin)

[knotty jolt]

It's just her rigging and model

[topaz smelt]

Only things with an HP bar count

[velvet slate]

fair

[ivory sigil]

Where to find HIT score

[undone plover]

U need to math it
Or just use lars calc

[rain bobcat]

math it

take enemy eva and find out how much hit you need to get 100% hit rate or smth

[knotty jolt]

As much as i wanna improve as a helper and player, math to much.

[rain bobcat]

since lion there is im assuming over it if she uses white, black is just better

[topaz smelt]

I'm pretty sure the difference is < 1%

[rain bobcat]

little diff yeah since ur also trading cdmg for crate

but better regardless

[sinful relic]

my sanity is gone, i made it to 11-1... 3 more to go till w12

[rain bobcat]

also beware the strat doesn't work if you dont use traf there/ atleast chappy

10% eva rate debuff is significant

[undone plover]

Helena buff is also multiplicative with all the other %dmg modifers right?

[sinful relic]

before w12 whats a good way to level my ships past 105? all my ships are at level 105 but yeah

[topaz smelt]

im pretty sure you dont get to hit cap even with traf

[knotty jolt]

I mean it should since it's a debuff applied on the enemy as opposed to a buff applied to our ships

[undone plover]

Just run highest map u can
11-1 or 11-4 both fine

[sinful relic]

got it

[rain bobcat]

11-1/11-4 but you need 1 good solo BB or 2 BB to avoid dying to kamikaze

[topaz smelt]

time to test if my bug exploit actually works

[inland shoal]

Mostly
The same buff stacks additively

[inland shoal]

Duisburg apparently didn't work, no clue why

[undone plover]

Oh interesting
Same being same ID I assume?
Are there even slows that share ID?

[woven star]

For new Meta boss?

[topaz smelt]

there was a patch and they did touch the skill but it looks relatively the same logic

[inland shoal]

All slows that get stronger or weaker over time work like this

[exotic temple]

Four dorm spots should be enough right? If it is what should I spend gems on now?

[topaz smelt]

stacking slows of the same skill are additive

[inland shoal]

2nd floor

(Can only buy it once you got all expansions)

[undone plover]

/gems

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Gem Spending 101

Gems in Azur Lane are fairly rare from an F2P perspective. However, the gacha in Azur lane does not require gems and their main usage is expansion of facilities like dorm, academy, docks and depot, as well as buying resources, resource packs, premium items (rings and name change), and skins.

As an F2P, you can get up to 4700 guaranteed gems (3750 for 3* clearing all 15 main campaign worlds, 800 for completing Bands collection and 150 for 8 days login campaign), not counting random gems from commissions or occasional bonuses from events or other sources.

Considering limited availability of gems for F2P players, even if spent exclusively on QoL upgrades, it is impossible to upgrade everything.

This is the recommended way to spend gems as an F2P:

• 3rd Dorm slot (300 gems)
• Dorm 2nd floor (500 gems)
• Dock space (remaining gems)

The main purpose of the dorm is for faster morale regen while grinding. Using ships with 0 morale will receive a 50% exp penalty and lose affinity.

The 2nd floor of the dorm will have the same number of slots as the 1st floor. While it lacks passive exp gain, it has faster morale regen. 3 dorm slots with the 2nd floor gives you a total of 6 slots, which is enough for your whole mob fleet.

Dock space is the biggest constraint for players. While this can help casual players collect all their waifus, there is also practical use in collecting ships - for later levelling to get their fleet tech on reaching lvl 120. These are important for players as they provide crucial additional stats that help players to tackle the hardest content (W14/15, H.Arbiters, CM).

Alternatively, players may consider getting the 3rd Academy slot for faster skill training or more dorm slots instead of just dock space (not recommended).

While players may opt to buy skins/rings with the F2P gems, this will come at the cost of QoL. It is recommended to only buy those with real money 💳.

[topaz smelt]

when was this tested btw?

[exotic temple]

Oh that is nice 2nd floor gets rid of morale quicker super helpful

[inland shoal]

~5h ago

[hollow gust]

When is CN stream?

[inland shoal]

Tuesday

[topaz smelt]

i assume right after the patch?

[exotic temple]

So it's not the worst thing ever I've 4 spots for the first floor?

[inland shoal]

No

[exotic temple]

Okay good thanks to you both

[woven star]

What's wrong with Duisburg?

[inland shoal]

Nothing

[bold haven]

Can someone tell me which one should I build?

[inland shoal]

Neither

[onyx flame]

none of em ngl

[bold haven]

Damn bad luck

[inland shoal]

Not really, most SRs aren't worth investing in. You should save your pulls for the event coming in a week though

[hollow gust]

The actually good ships are coming in a week , right now you are just pulling trash fodder

Especially those 3, they were never that good in the first place

[topaz smelt]

@inland shoal whats the diff between "onRemove" and "OnSink" trigger in context for the exploit

[undone plover]

I thought it was monday

Wasnt it the 15th?

[inland shoal]

Hmm which skill exactly is that? I think this fixes Kurumi augment and not much else

[topaz smelt]

buff_201644
this is for yorkm fight

[inland shoal]

It is
I just thought Thursday was the 17th for some reason

[inland shoal]

I didn't mean the id I meant which part of the skill that is
I'm not home for another 8h or so, so gotta go off of my memory of the skill tree

[rain bobcat]

jp stream is wed 17th

[topaz smelt]

ill prob figure it out when i get enough pts to test

[undone plover]

Rly weird
Has this ever happened before?
Will JP stream just show the same things again ?

[inland shoal]

Can't remember this happening before at least

[strange sphinx]

can you guys tell why goldburn is on every team?

[topaz smelt]

slightly better dps

not very impactful overall tho

didnt they add like a practice mode for meta fights?

[undone plover]

Basically 500 HP aux with sth like 38 rld extra for the ship
No reason not to use it

[onyx flame]

550hp

[weary edge]

if i get fdg to fs5 will i no longer be able to convert rainbow bps into fdg bps?

[inland shoal]

Yes but still only the lvl you unlocked

[onyx flame]

you still can

[inland shoal]

You still can
But why?

[topaz smelt]

where do i find it

[weary edge]

protocore conversion

[onyx flame]

protocore prob but uh what blank are you using

[inland shoal]

Just bottom right before analysis

[topaz smelt]

oh you need to not have coords

[inland shoal]

For most season blanks there's a better use

[weary edge]

even season 3? lol

[inland shoal]

You can't have an active fight ye

Ig season 3 is fine

[safe nexus]

#gameplay-help message

can someone help?

[ivory sigil]

But how much Gouden does 30 min research drop?

It use 5k coin and 5 cube

Must be 5 BPs?

Imma use 100% of my brain then

[topaz smelt]

i think i know whats happening
the aura applies a buff on our ships so the cd on the onsink is on each individual unit

[lucid orchid]

Does this sortie exp count in opsi, huge pain

[tulip tinsel]

it does but opsi takes like way longer

[lucid orchid]

those main fleet die so fast in 12-1

[tulip tinsel]

gear them better

[onyx flame]

or just bump up their level more

my lvl 80 ones survive just fine

[lucid orchid]

hmms oki

[viscid swift]

use AA radars on your fleet if need be

[ivory sigil]

Gouden is hot. But BPs will always short

Who UR rerun in jan???

Speculation laffey2?

[undone plover]

Laffii and guam yes

[arctic sail]

Hello heeeelp me plz

Im looking for my account i cant find it

I spent alot in it

[ivory sigil]

-# create new account

Do you remember the** uid or screenshot?**

[viscid swift]

did you bind your account?

[arctic sail]

Yeah

There is no account

[viscid swift]

did you choose the correct server?

[arctic sail]

I looking for it by (you character icon) there is no icon

[viscid swift]

what did you bind with? Yostar account?

[arctic sail]

My nickname is deejay

[arctic sail]

Yeah

[viscid swift]

so you changed devices or uninstalled then reinstalled I presume? and you bound your account before that yes?

[arctic sail]

But now i bind it with another google account then i bind it with yostar

I dont know how to change google account

[topaz smelt]

@inland shoal when you were looking at the gridman gundam, do you rmbr where the ships get teleported to?

[viscid swift]

you'd need to contact yostar CS to do that

[undone plover]

does kurumi work in opsi tank for boss?
vs portland?

[proper violet]

Barracuda(gold) vs D-4?

[viscid swift]

/techsupport

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

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[onyx flame]

if they bound it to yostar they could login to the yostar account website and see what AL account and the server the account is binded too

[inland shoal]

So the 3s time on the skill on YkM that applies the ConsumeBuff is gone?
And I don't remember exactly, but it was sth like -10000

[viscid swift]

different use cases
https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide/

[lucid orchid]

sry for question again, for exp farm, do it necessarily to finish the boss, or just restart as many as time to farm the mob

[proper violet]

Yeah ok, how do I discern what situations they for?

[proper violet]

Boss and finishing the stage gives rewards too, so worth finishin

[topaz smelt]

no, the buff for that is applied as an aura, so each individual unit has it

[viscid swift]

most of the coin drops would be from clearing the boss, not to mention just clearing mobs mean you can't use autosearch

[topaz smelt]

funny enough that might be out of range of the aura, so i think they can leave the aura and come back for 2x stacks

[inland shoal]

Devs actually fast at noticing and fixing such an intricate bug, what is happening?

[topaz smelt]

nah i was just wrong from the beginning

idk what theyre trying to fix tho

id imagine there was a way to proc the -1 stack multiple times

but this also introduced getting stacks by teleporting away

[onyx flame]

kurumi prefer mobs iirc cause she want to yoink a bunch of enemies within the black hole to proc more clones to improve her survivability. im not sure in which use case was her ehp calc with but on the ehp chart she's 124.19%

[undone plover]

yeah I checked that but also remember suchi saying she struggles vs bosses

[inland shoal]

Hmm? No you weren't wrong as far as I can tell

[undone plover]

so not sure if she is better than portland

[inland shoal]

Her ehp is based on assumptions afaik

[onyx flame]

only 1 way to find out

[topaz smelt]

so the buff is applied to each ship as an aura, this mean every ship will have the onsink proc. the cd doesnt matter cuz they get procced by different ships

[inland shoal]

Yeah but before it was different cuz the skill with cd was cast by her

[topaz smelt]

the logic hasnt changed i dont think, it was still applied by an aura bfore

[inland shoal]

They cast a buff on YkM and the buff cast the skill with cd

[topaz smelt]

id check but its a pain to go thru diffs

[inland shoal]

I'll just check when I'm back

[topaz smelt]

well either way its not gonna work anymore

[inland shoal]

Sad

[inland shoal]

If only her gaining points wasn't dependent on that janky S1

[topaz smelt]

now its find ships that teleport off the map

surely teleport effects dont retrigger aura right?

[inland shoal]

The teleport specifically doesn't
Cuz auras don't care about how you leave or enter, they only check if ships collide with it that didn't before and vice versa

Actually this might not Fix Kurumi but make her better instead

Also Moggy

[topaz smelt]

does auras not remove the buff when they leave?

or does there need to be a onremove trigger that does something

[inland shoal]

It does, but many things don't do anything if they get removed without onRemove trigger

[topaz smelt]

ye i think rikka actually works for +1 perma stack

[eager mulch]

riceist is here

[topaz smelt]

super gundam only gives 1 stack for some reason

[inland shoal]

What about Mog and augmented Kurumi?

[topaz smelt]

mog doesnt work, havent tested kurumi

id imagine it works as expected

[inland shoal]

If Mog doesn't neither will Kurumi

[topaz smelt]

are there weird things that dont trigger onsink

[inland shoal]

Idts

Though I'm confused as to why Mog doesn't work

[topaz smelt]

prob the buff doesnt fall off so it doesnt reproc

[whole crypt]

how is ykm fleet looking like now

[inland shoal]

But it should
I think that was why you had to run unaugment Kurumi before
Well whatever I'll have to look at exact implementation again

[topaz smelt]

which part of her skill should work?

[inland shoal]

Her invulnerability should count as leaving the aura

[safe nexus]

im lacking in iron blood faction tech a lot, do i targe lvl 120 or just MLB enough

[topaz smelt]

why is that a thing?

[inland shoal]

Idk but auras have an extra check for it

If ship left or immune to cld, trigger leave func

[topaz smelt]

is the mog invuln after the dmg threshold?

[inland shoal]

I think there's a guide for this, 120 gives most points, but is a big investment so usually not done much

[inland shoal]

I forgor

[topaz smelt]

if it is, that aint proccing on lv5

i thought mog was eva rate but idr

[inland shoal]

Well yeah ig 5% maxHP is a bit much
Guess you could try aug Kurumi then

[topaz smelt]

doesnt look like it works

is it not perfecteva?

[inland shoal]

No

[inland shoal]

Try #tech-support

[topaz smelt]

well it doesnt work

[inland shoal]

Ig it maybe checks that specially on leave but not enter

[topaz smelt]

youre the expert here, thats something ive never looked into

[upbeat wagon]

is champy gun good to +13 if i can +13 only a single equip

[onyx flame]

have you tried logging into yostar account center on a website to see what al game account is bound to the yostar acocunt?

[arctic sail]

I dont have password.. When i register just generate a code by email to verify

[onyx flame]

yea thats normal yostar account dont have passwords

[arctic sail]

There is a password box

I dont have password

[onyx flame]

bro that is the store

[chrome flower]

So, I've been tackling Chapter 15, and my fleet is being stumped with 15-3, anyone able to offer some guidance? Will create a fleet and post build and lineup

Chpt 15-3 Build Help

[thick pond]

Whose to build with Mecklen?

[stray crane]

guys i got tenrai what should trade next ?

[knotty dome]

has anybody kept track of the rate of craftable unique augments introduced vs rate of acquiring augment module core and augment module stones?

i've run out of cores and have enough stones to +10 about 10 more, but i have like 30 something or more left that i haven't made. i guess i was supposed to be buying these during events?

[undone plover]

augment cores (the stuff used to craft the augments) is worth grabbing always

[knotty dome]

i haven't been for like 4 years or however long it's been out, crap

[undone plover]

the rest u get enough from ch12+ farming

[undone plover]

be careful what augments u craft until u get a good supply of em then

[knotty dome]

i assumed you get more than get released... now i'm out

[undone plover]

also dont craft purple augments
U should have enough by now if u have been playing 4 years
if u really need to upgrade blue to purple
it saves u 50% of the cost

[valid forge]

should i pick shinano or new jersey?

[knotty dome]

yeah i have enough purples by now

[valid forge]

so why shihano?

[knotty jolt]

Shinano but hold onto your invite till you only need one left for limit break otherwise it'll be a waste of dock space

[onyx flame]

but only when you need the last copy to mlb if not she just be taking up dock space

[valid forge]

huh, interesting

[knotty jolt]

Cause she's still usable and better then new jersey who's been power crept, especially so with musashi being added to the perma pool

[sweet delta]

i've been buying them from most event shops but i wont have enough for 38 augments

[knotty dome]

so i guess that means we're not meant to be able to craft every single one?

[valid forge]

Why i cant use shihano just at lv 70?

Or at lv 90 since i have 2 mk3 bullins

[onyx flame]

dont invest ur bulin into perma ur ships

[onyx flame]

also

[valid forge]

So ill need to get 3 shihanos from 400 points exchange at first?

[onyx flame]

4 unless you already gotten one before hand
but musashi has higher prio than shinano for perma pity now

[valid forge]

Okay

[hollow plank]

can someone please guide me on where th guide is for operation siren? thanks! idk the slash command fo rit

[topaz smelt]

@viscid swift what do you consider a justifiable fight to benchmark fleets for opsi

[stark quiver]

arbiter normal

[topaz smelt]

thats just free no matter what trash you have

[stark quiver]

then hard arbiter

[topaz smelt]

i dont get adapts til end of month so aint testing that

[stark quiver]

lit everything in opsi is a free win

[upbeat wagon]

Will stronghold progress get reset if i heal at a port, or do i have to use repair packs

[ocean terrace]

it doesn't reset, you can heal at port
just make sure you get your resolve back by winning a fight

[forest palm]

well, as a benchmark that is technically fine. a new player can see improvement relative to how well they can clear it versus having to zerg rush the fucker

[topaz smelt]

ill prob test on various fights

what fleet do you go for if you start with sashi

[tulip tinsel]

when was the next wishing pool thing again? I forgot

[forest palm]

CN Anniversary (?)

[reef bane]

why is this 34% despite 3 starring

[tulip tinsel]

you have to defeat boss node 2 more times

[forest palm]

because it's based on number of clears, not the stars themselves

[reef bane]

should i lmao

[tulip tinsel]

2 CV gold retro bps

[cobalt gate]

so witcha meta what is her armor type as a boss

[civic prairie]

next ur is on anniv?

[cobalt gate]

next ur is in 2 weeks

[civic prairie]

alright

[cobalt gate]

we get like 4 new ur events a year, 2 with double ur. also get ur from research

[forest palm]

less than that

[cobalt gate]

true

[slow fox]

-# What is missing from it
-# how can I fix it

[topaz smelt]

didnt you overestimate rld and its missing planes

[slow fox]

-# He made me fix it before he linked it

[topaz smelt]

how do you know its fixed

[slow fox]

-# It passed his vibe check

[topaz smelt]

idk why i expected something reasonable

[slow fox]

We messed with the individual reload numbers until it matched his experience.

The "messing with" looked like tweaking uptime assumptions based on reload speed. So it's a stochastic model.
-# That ultimately needed to pass his vibe check

[topaz smelt]

youd prob get a more accurate number just throwing it into rng at this point

[slow fox]

That's the "stochastic" part. I'll let you know when I get a probability density function of enemy plane uptime per map unit.

-# 20th anniversary

[topaz smelt]

except you dont need that

[slow fox]

[silk helm]

[topaz smelt]

the maps already has the wave timers for you
you know when elites spawn and their planes are on a timer too
all you need to do is figure out plane wave patterns and expected hit counts on those

[slow fox]

That's literally what I just said

[topaz smelt]

go vibe code it

[slow fox]

[topaz smelt]

i got upto the wave patterns part and got lazy to manually do everything

[slow fox]

I'd rather figure the expected hitcounts with a model instead of running the sims per.
Then that allows you to do some averaging of damage done across different stages.

-# While we don't have that, it'll be tweaking uptime assumptions to hit some sort of expected benchmark.

[topaz smelt]

the issues with sims is theyll never be true due to player movement

planes will never just go straight down the middle

and also trusting sims

[slow fox]

-# That's why I'd ideally go with a pdf instead of a sim.

[valid forge]

should i upgrade wakatsuki?

[rigid onyx]

what?

[sweet delta]

She is much weaker than the date a lives

[valid forge]

okay

also, just final step of saint louis research left
need to get 2kk xp more
can i just use data packs or its better to farm?

[upbeat wagon]

is raffaello worth to 125

[crisp dust]

interesting talk on this side

[upbeat wagon]

Which ships are worth to 125 in general?

[tulip tinsel]

good ships

[crisp dust]

youll have to learn how to use her. Its probably the most complex character in the whole game

[upbeat wagon]

I am using her in opsi and campaign

[crisp dust]

and its more worth using her with sardegna fleets since her buffs double on sardegna ships

So its more on your personal circumstances

[upbeat wagon]

not using her with sardegna ships atm no

[crisp dust]

wakatsuki is pretty good in maps with submarines, has a lot of useful conditions, good fp good torp, benefits from a lot of IJN buffs. But her strongest side is in maps with subs

[sweet delta]

What

[crisp dust]

hmmm, then ur not using double buff, its ur decision then

[sweet delta]

1. It is not worth bringing sardegna ships for Raffaello
2. She's not hard to use at all, what's simpler than putting a BB in mob?

[crisp dust]

well yeah u put her and she throws volleys like all the other ships in game. And as an UR she hits hard without doing much yeah

Thinking about it the gameplay is very simple in this game hehe. Nobody is gonna use Raffaello skills at their max extend cuz its not necessary