gameplay-help

[whole crypt]

also what cheeky said, some people just use OS to XP

[knotty jolt]

I do too just ive forgotten to swap out my leveling fleet after attempting harbiter and im being lazy to swap it back

ima actually go do that right now

[whole crypt]

I do happen to be in the fortunate situation of not needing OS XP at all, besides commander XP

[uneven knot]

who would u guys run for boss/mob fleet for w13+ and opsi?

[clear harbor]

If I want an AA radar on my BB, what's more important for the second Aux slot? Fire Control or White Shell? This is for farming 12-4.

[hollow gust]

Most people can't afford to use the best BB in the game for mobbing

[sweet delta]

😭 I just replied on reddit, but discord is better anyways. Ignore the reddit help

[sweet delta]

Very nice, aunty hood

[hollow gust]

😘

[whole crypt]

most newer players who count on Lion for bossing, yes

[hollow gust]

Oneshotting harby has gotten boring so Lion is my mobbing now too

[bold forum]

What does efficiency do on your guns? Anything major?

[viscid swift]

it's just a damage multiplier

[hollow gust]

[lean osprey]

Thanks for the feedback, I can clear everything so far, I guess I just wanted to min max and optimize the best one size fits all fleet

[whole crypt]

I actually moved Lion out to run Bis/Meck/Lion for boss, you just reminded me to check sync calc to see which carriers to use instead

[gray sphinx]

using lion for mobbing is crazy I just use musashi or fdg and call it a day

[whole crypt]

Lion is a fast mobbing meme because of her barrage on entry and at 15s

it's especially ridiculous for c1 and c3

[sweet delta]

+1 biszmecklion https://youtu.be/i658S066ZkY

[gray sphinx]

wait

who are the ships in the front line outside of helena

[wind hazel]

watch the video, near the end

[whole crypt]

kirov meta and sendai

[wind hazel]

-1 viewcount for youtuber suchiguma

[knotty jolt]

don't worry i watched the whole thing

[knotty jolt]

quick question for my stupid brain: What is amity and nautilus supposed to be doing in assiting the battle?

[gray sphinx]

looks like I know what two ships to grind next

[whole crypt]

I just did 52/traf/ply for vanguard and 2-rounded, lost 52
but that was also done with no subs

[gray sphinx]

their base skins look cool asf

[soft raft]

Do you even have the fleet tech required for that

[gray sphinx]

for what

[onyx flame]

~~mdachi ending in 12 days too ~~

[wind hazel]

amity has debuff, idk nautilus didnt bother to read

[onyx flame]

i dont think their lvling em for the strat but just cause they look nice

[soft raft]

What else besides to recreate that video

[gray sphinx]

yea I'm just leveling them cause they look cool lol

[knotty jolt]

Did a quick read and both have a debuff to make enemy take more damage

[gray sphinx]

plus they'll give me tech points which is nice

[wind hazel]

same just read it

[whole crypt]

I can't remember how far stiggy is from max tech but he should have all the consequential ones like RLD and HIT at least

and most if not all FP

[knotty jolt]

Always find it fascinating when random ships come up for use in end game content due to odd niches

[whole crypt]

it's basically a full buff/debuff stack for 1 salvo

[clear harbor]

@sweet delta @onyx flame Reequipped my ships and now things are going better...but it really should be the same loadout. I'm gas-lighting myself somehow.

[wind hazel]

what even is your fleet? sound sussy since you mentioned AA radar

[onyx flame]

rngged by 5 large bb fleet

[clear harbor]

First = Mob, second = boss

[halcyon nymph]

Is this worth it even if I can only make it to lv 90... I think...?

[onyx flame]

do you want the skin?

[halcyon nymph]

Not really. Just the materials. But I'm not sure if it's worth it for newbies.

[whole crypt]

depends on how much that money means to you

[halcyon nymph]

My 2nd option is the 1,200 gems to buy two promise rings.

[whole crypt]

we generally do not recommend considering purchasing resources with money because everything is eventually doable with time

but if that amount is disposable for you it's a good boost

[hollow gust]

It's only worth if you like the skin imao

[sweet delta]

If that amount is disposable for you, then please dispose of it into my wallet

[hollow gust]

~~Sushi has been begging for funds on his site ~~

[hollow gust]

you know rings get discounted right?

[halcyon nymph]

Now I'm considering my 2nd option then. To marry all my DAL units.

[halcyon nymph]

No. I'm a new player. When do discounts occur?

[hollow gust]

Occasionally during big events

[halcyon nymph]

Are we getting one in the upcoming days? Guess I'll wait for the discount then.

[whole crypt]

it's less of a discount and more of a twin pack offer, we'll likely get one with December UR

[onyx flame]

valentines we might also get one iirc

[whole crypt]

they usually happen like 5-6 times a year across occasions

[halcyon nymph]

Got it. Thanks for the info. Glad I wasn't able to buy it immediately.

[vale hill]

is the game down rn?

[gray sphinx]

no

[vestal prawn]

from what i know, 12-1 its for farm exp and 12-4 for gold right? can someone tell me, if i want to grinding level for ships in 12-1, how the ships placement on fleet ?

[wind hazel]

which one was having trouble?

[wind hazel]

same as the rest, bb flag, cv offflags, tank in left most, squishiest middle, 2nd tankiest on the right

[sweet delta]

What if I don't have cv

[hollow gust]

I have to guess fleet 2

[wind hazel]

make a youtube video to showcase

[vestal prawn]

how the level of the ships i need to use? can i use level 1 ships in the fleet for grinding??

[wind hazel]

get them to around ~lv80-90 for good measure, lv1 will likely die

[past bear]

Help me optimize my fleet in OpSi. I know its good enough to clear the content but i want to make a team that specialize on different armor type

[vestal prawn]

ohh, so i need them level up on dorm or commission first, after that i can use them on the fleet ?

[whole crypt]

fairly sure fleet 2 will kill everything just with a gun switch

[wind hazel]

move z52 to bb fleet, ply traf z52, and you have all 3 armour covered in a single fleet. fleet 4 can be light and med too, if you give them good vanguard buffer

[hollow gust]

Running eagle for AP is bold

[whole crypt]

if anything fleet 3 should be anti-light, yeh

[wind hazel]

exp books would be faster, and more convenient. but dorm is good while you wait to switch out the current units on the farming fleet

[past bear]

So light then?

[wind hazel]

i suggest to just scrap eagle fleet

[whole crypt]

[hollow gust]

Only fleets you need

[past bear]

What should i replace? Amagi fleet?

[wind hazel]

move the vanguard from fleet 3 to fleet 4, keep fleet 2 and fleet 4

[hollow gust]

Swap kazagumo for Elridge if more durability is needed

[wind hazel]

basically copy grey's fleet

[past bear]

Aight thanks, anymore suggestions?

[wind hazel]

put in leftover crossfleets on the empty fleet reduce bb animation on mob fleet if you want, that's it

[hollow gust]

Actually this is nicer

[vestal prawn]

hmm, and then, if the ships i want to leveling, is all around 80-90, so, can i put them main and vanguard ships all of them around 80-90 level ? or i need at least 1 or 2 ships level 120 to help them grinding ? sorry, i didnt know the placement order

[hollow gust]

Sakura is honestly to clean up after fleet 3 somehow doesn't kill it

[wind hazel]

12-1 average 90 is good enough on safe threat level

granted that you aren't using completely shit ships, and have some decent AA from CVs+vanguard

[clear harbor]

Mob. Main fleet was taking too much chip damage over several fights.

Boss fleet also takes chip damage, but is able to finish the boss before anyone sinks.

[hollow gust]

Run a better vanguard , howe isn't that good for mobbing either

[wind hazel]

awaken howe, what gear is hakuhou running?

[vestal prawn]

okay okay, thank you, but can i saw your placement fleet for grinding exp? im kinda need some example to understand it. sorry for the trouble.

[wind hazel]

mine isn't what you should copy

[vestal prawn]

HAAHAHAH okay okay, thank you tho

[wind hazel]

something like this

[vestal prawn]

thank you thank you

[vestal prawn]

thank you very much

[viscid swift]

Just gonna further emphasize how little 12-1 farming requires

Mebot would be proud I'm sure

[hollow gust]

[viscid swift]

Not of this though

[whole crypt]

guess I'm sticking with Independence?

[hollow gust]

For partial load eh?

[hollow gust]

Honestly isn't independence just far better support ability and damage?

[whole crypt]

I'm just looking at max staggered airstrikes for ~20s

since I moved Lion out from mob

[hollow gust]

Subscribe to the Grey Meta

[whole crypt]

which part of I just moved Lion out wasn't clear

[hollow gust]

Alsace

[whole crypt]

ew bullet time

I might consider swapping GL in though how is her DPS/damage uptime

mine is still d25

[hollow gust]

25 has super nice aoe clear already, I fucking love her

[whole crypt]

[hollow gust]

Sandy?

[whole crypt]

just damage uptime

[hollow gust]

Would z52 not be more goated?

[whole crypt]

52 is in a boss fleet

[hollow gust]

Do you really need her in boss though

[whole crypt]

do we need any of this

[hollow gust]

Although have you tried bayard for pure dps

[wind hazel]

why not hindenburg

[hollow gust]

I don't like her

[wind hazel]

[hollow gust]

She isn't my type

[whole crypt]

which part of uptime wasn't clear

[hollow gust]

Isn't uptime consistent nonstop damage ?

[vale hill]

what time is daily reset

[onyx flame]

in 15 mins

[whole crypt]

and doed Bayard do better than Sandy for that

[hollow gust]

Bayard has better torps , a really nice AOA too. In terms of sheer dps Bayard is just better

[wind hazel]

is sandy dmg even up there

[hollow gust]

Sandy is very noticeably worse then Plymouth , even more when she doesn't statpad with AA

[whole crypt]

she's just there to keep shooting

[hollow gust]

I don't think you will be disappointed in Bayard ability to keep shooting. She was my original girl before GL

I should swap my Unzen with Ibuki though , forgot how bursty that girl is

[whole crypt]

I mainly picked sandy because I wanted someone who'll be shooting through the reload gaps

and she has my mog gun

[sweet delta]

My mog gun is reserved for secondaries like on Helena or Wichita

[whole crypt]

neither of which I'm using because I don't try to one round arb

[dry cedar]

help...
im a newbie
i don't know what to do
and...meta char ^^

[whole crypt]

https://azurlaneecgc.com/newbie_tips/

AP/SAP one-rounding c5 CL abyssal

[wispy beacon]

Am I high or something. I got this mission 3 days in a row!

[onyx flame]

its rng

[deft kettle]

whos the best date a live ship so far?

[ocean terrace]

Tohka

[wispy beacon]

Never says no to gold plates

[ocean terrace]

I should probably hold off from claiming her for now to preserve dock space right?

[clear harbor]

Awakened Howe, is at 109 now (didn't realize how must EXP was stared there). Hakuhou has quite a bit, too, but I've been holding off on awakening her and MLBing her because of coins. Attached is her gear. I can give her gold catapults if I take them away from somone else (I only have 6 right now, but they're all at +10)

[wind hazel]

it's fine, use circle formation, see if that helps with main fleet sustain

[desert tapir]

Do we still have a google doc for dossier fights?

[ivory sigil]

i accidentally press collect yesterday 💀

errrr what is ops and should i upgrade

[boreal wagon]

ops damage boost is a damage bonus in operation siren only against specifically only enemies classified as sirens
you shouldnt spend your gold plates willynilly, i believe we had a /plus13 command or something like that

note that ops damage boost isnt the main reason one would want to go past +10, as +11 and above also do one of increase stats, increase damage modifier, damage directly

[ivory sigil]

any gear else that i priortizing upgrade?

[sharp socket]

not many

you should get some purple toolkits though

[hollow gust]

Whoa whoa who what's with the hate against helldivers

Also it's always worth leveling your gear to lvl6-8 if you are using them

[sharp socket]

i was blind i didnt see the helldivers

[reef bane]

fellow elaina spotted

[hollow gust]

There is a lot of stuff worth leveling to +8 if not +10

[onyx flame]

why not the crystal as well since it basically a cosmic kick

[hollow gust]

I haven't used crystal yet , just more losses for people who farmed kicks of all things

[onyx flame]

well, they really should only upgrade stuff their using just update equipped gear then upgrade afterwards

[atomic vortex]

So can ships with blank skill slots unlocked more skills or are they empty forever

[rapid shard]

Empty until they get a retrofit (if they get one) from my understanding

[atomic vortex]

Cheers bro

Wait but Uni is retro and only packs 2 outta 3

[onyx flame]

she never got a new skill from her retro, just 1 of the skill got upgraded

well i guess you can call it a new skill since it replaces

[rapid shard]

Retro doesnt always add a new skill either. Some of them it just upgrades a preexisting one like Unis does

[atomic vortex]

Fair enough

[atomic vortex]

Holy shit is that a Nahida pfp I spot

In this server????

[wind hazel]

sir relax

[ivory sigil]

how to use this

a throwing chair as a bullet?

[wind hazel]

it's a gear skin, select from gear screen on your ship

[atomic vortex]

Fellow radish fans are hard to come by in this economy

[ivory sigil]

well i did c6 her month ago by grinding for a year of primo so....yet still not strong, i guess it is not easy to progress nowadays indeed

[ivory sigil]

do it had any requirement?

like +13 gear ?

[wind hazel]

it can only be applied on selected gear category

no other requirement

[onyx flame]

that chair is basically only for bb guns

[atomic vortex]

I got C4 R1, C6 R5 and a good build is long term goal

[ivory sigil]

if you interest in adding me in genshin u can search for uid @atomic vortex 819471451 asia

well i only start playing Azurlane due to the fact of the collab with DAL recently

i do having alot of fun... is there any other fun dorm item in game???

-# yoshinobathwater TAT

[rapid shard]

FYI do not +13 gear when your starting out. That is a late game goal. Very few things are worth +13 that you'll get early on and gold plates take a while to stack up

Does this cat have potential for CV fleet?

[flat oak]

How do you farm points for shop. Spamming 5x last event stage?

[rapid shard]

Yes, run coalition stage 6

[flat oak]

Aight thx

[onyx flame]

well its automatically a 9/10 maximum alr cause of that hp so it could i guess

[rapid shard]

Still learning how to judge if a cat is good or not lol I just seen the flame and elite so figured it might be decent lol haven't seen a suchi full guide on cats yet

[onyx flame]

could just use the riceist one in /cats

[rapid shard]

Forgot that one existed lol I have suchis guide bookmarked and just default to that 99% of the time

[slow fox]

No new data has come to rise regarding her eHP.

[versed forum]

who has better aa for Opsi Anchorage or dev28 GL?

[onyx flame]

opsi doesnt even need that much AA

[versed forum]

ig no need to rush gl

is Hinden worth investing? almost dev30 Napoli

[late flame]

not really

[hollow gust]

How do you have a almost dev30 Napoli and dev28 Gouden

[plain saffron]

does this exists before?

please tell me there's setting to disable this

[violet grail]

Just dont go that low on morale, stick em in dorm, and also you can just use a different 1:1 fleet while those two ships recover

Also wouldn't you be better off using a full fleet on Sector 6 considering the oil cost of your 1:1 fleet compared to the cap.

[wary saffron]

I got a UR bulin should I limit break unzen

[rapid shard]

Depends on what all URs you have and how many bulins you have/can get right now

[kind slate]

What are ships to use in w15 support? Also do they have to be like lvl 120, max skills etc?

[onyx flame]

https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-15/#general-fleet-structure

[atomic vortex]

I've been saving my UR bullins despite having a few URS

Almost got another bullin this month too but 300 off the 5k months redeem

[rapid shard]

Post a screenshot of all your URs and you only have the ability to get 2 bulins?

[atomic vortex]

My URs my Monthly and Proto exchange

[kind slate]

Is this looking good for 15-1

[rapid shard]

Hold off till they announce what the new Dec UR will be

[atomic vortex]

Was planning to hold till mummy Guam comes back

I want her soooooooooooo bad

[atomic vortex]

Same shit every month btw, I always get so close to the 5k but just short of it

[rapid shard]

Also dont forget to buy the cores from medal shop and dont buy bulins till you need them. They take up dockspace for no reason

[atomic vortex]

Bold of you to assume I don't immediately eat those shits up

[rapid shard]

Lot of people forget about them lol

[onyx flame]

bought the food but not the bulins

[rapid shard]

Oh wtf i didnt even notice that part

[rapid shard]

Buy the 2 gold bulins before it resets

[atomic vortex]

Oh fuck forgot about that

[rapid shard]

[rapid shard]

Just replying so it doesnt get lost. Hopefully one of the smarter guys can help out with this W15 setup

[kind slate]

so kind.

[eternal moth]

Do you have Musashi?

[rapid shard]

I will say I didnt notice ASW gear and you'll definitely need that

[kind slate]

no. I can get her tho if I spend all cubes rn (I’m at 300 points rn)

[fair lance]

subs don't appear till 15-3 and 15-4

[eternal moth]

I wouldn't, it's not worth it with another UR coming. And then youd have to spend time leveling her skills and everything. Just get her next

[kind slate]

yea. Got everyone else already.
So is the setup good enough?

[rapid shard]

Oh nice. I thought that was just a w14 setup. Im still working on gear and support fleet for 15 myself

[eternal moth]

Try it and see, it might be.

[kind slate]

Aight thnx

[echo vector]

Do we have published player statistics like median age group, gender of players, etc ? Curious

[past bear]

Why would you want to know that..

[atomic vortex]

It would be almost all 20 ish year old guys

Personally I'm 17 but pretty much an adult at this point

[atomic abyss]

They have gathered such data
But it's not public

[echo vector]

Just curious, like other games does publish their data yearly. Or some fanbases even publish their own version. I'm curious about my fellow skk

[ivory sigil]

if i dont have any iris libre and vichya dominion i shouldnt buy feather right?

i only have whiteshell and purple whiteshell and recently got firecontrolradar

so my main BB should use 1 yellow + 1 purple whiteshell?

[forest palm]

the White Shell + Purple FCR for BB

I am curious why the Feather is recommended

[tulip tinsel]

iirc feather is for only if you don't have gold steam catas tho it's expensive

[forest palm]

like if you got it from the event use it, but don't know about recommending buying it

also for the 4th best it's really just Catapult or Aviation Tank

[rapid shard]

That gear guide isnt a buy guide btw

/coredata

[odd root]

https://www.azurlaneecgc.com/images/equip_misc/Core_Data_Priority.jpeg

[forest palm]

ya but the gear guide is recommending something you'd have to buy if you're the average player

again the Feather is a use it if you got it case, but I don't think it's worth the cores

[rapid shard]

True. I refer to the gear guide as in, if I have it use it if not next best option while crosschecking the shop guides

[forest palm]

a good way to go about it

[rapid shard]

Suchis crafting and Sam's shop guides are great and i constantly cross check btw them lol

@ivory sigil you would be much better off getting a black shell to pair with white for your BB than niche items like that. Purple catapults will be perfectly fine for time being

[onyx flame]

suchi should add an addendum to the disclaimer to cover shop purchases as well

[teal oyster]

i uh just got back to the game after 1½ years and i forgot how the game works and how to maximize my fleets🥲you guys got any recommendations to my fleet like what to change or something, my mob fleet is the us power then my boss fleet is belfast

[onyx flame]

obligatory faction fleet is bad
will need to see your full dock to make adjustment etc, so open a thread and send pics there

[teal oyster]

just got back about almost a week i guess cause i saw the collab of date a live lol

[onyx flame]

what campaign stage are you at too btw?

[teal oyster]

stuck at 10-3 lol cause my warspite always die

[onyx flame]

what hulls are in your medal shop plus do you have the medals to buy em?

but first and foremost would prob be replacing your non mlb ur cause non mlb are missing a bunch of their dmg

[atomic abyss]

Give her a blue fire suppressor as her auxiliary gear

[teal oyster]

alr got it

[errant reef]

should a new player pull for the Collab or save everything for December?

[teal oyster]

yeah i don't mind, i just forgot how to make one🥲

[atomic abyss]

It depends on if you care about the collab

[onyx flame]

if you care even a bit about the collab, pull since they might never rerun

[atomic abyss]

Objectively speaking from a meta perspective ignore the collab

[teal oyster]

its U-96

[atomic abyss]

From a collector pov, they're like 1x only
So grab themn

[onyx flame]

poor dude is in lexington me too

[errant reef]

I see
I'm not a collector usually so I'll just go with that then
tyvm

[teal oyster]

dam🥲

[onyx flame]

anyway try what ender suggest and prob swap out york for hood since shes at least lvl 100 + mlb

[valid forge]

Which ships i should upgrade or mlb?

[teal oyster]

alrighty

[valid forge]

Got some new elites and SRs recently, also kurumi is now permanent

[teal oyster]

thanks man

[onyx flame]

should prob find replacement for NJ and impac as well but, idk what backliners you should even raise

[teal oyster]

does monarch work?

[onyx flame]

well if she's dev 30

if she is you can get her unique aug too which makes her much better

if you have 1.2k core data you can also opt to get independence and retro her and use her for mobbing

[teal oyster]

i see, im gonna grind her for awhile

[proper violet]

Anyone got the shop priority list?

[forest palm]

which one?

event?

if it's for event there's a doc in the pins you can look over

[proper violet]

General shop one, event is cool too, although I think I know

Like all the normal shops

Yo i see people sometimes using commands, is there a commands list?

[forest palm]

/guide

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Guides to Azur Lane

If you're not sure where to start or how to optimize something, try checking this out!
🔹 English Community Guide Compendium by samheart564

Contains a list of guides about key Azur Lane gameplay mechanics, including:

• Newbie Tips
• Common Resource Guide
• Research Guide
  and more!

If you are an older player aiming to push endgame content, you can check these out instead!
🔹 META Chronicles by pilica12
🔹 Suchiguma Azur Lane Guides by suchiguma

Contains a list of endgame oriented guides and deeper dives into gameplay mechanics, including:

• Chapter 14 and 15
• Challenge Mode
  and more!

Here are some other useful commands:
Use /tierlist and /equip for a ship and equipment tier lists
Use /tags for a full list of things I can help you with

[ivory sigil]

@atomic vortex does we have age of azurlane girl.... ? ship age i mean........... most of them probably decade wise no matter of their look
even nahida is 500years long, btw if you have uid in genshin we can 819471451 in asia

[rain vine]

do /tags in #bot-spam

[forest palm]

give a look over on the first link

[proper violet]

Ty love ya'll

[ivory sigil]

why it said it need 1000 core data to get this girl?

[forest palm]

age is more or less an irrelevant thing in this game, but that's more of an #al-general question

[ivory sigil]

cant we just enter the iris of light and dark in War Archive to play that event and get her from A3, B2, C3, D2, D3?

[atomic vortex]

I'll have to hop on tomorrow and check my UID but in terms of Ship girl age I genuinely don't know

[proper violet]

Depends on the age of the ship that inspired them I assume

[forest palm]

eh...

take this conversation elsewhere it doesn't belong in #gameplay-help

[proper violet]

Fax

[onyx flame]

either or, either pay oil and gamble on drops or pay core if your rich

[ivory sigil]

i dont have any gold nor material, why people recommend to use them?

[onyx flame]

1.5 hour G

[ivory sigil]

so should i just skip them? like ignore the whole research thingy?

[onyx flame]

unless your mega broke then C is ehh but okay enough iguess

[onyx flame]

no make sure it always running, even if its bad researchs cause you cant afford the better ones

[ivory sigil]

i'm new ofcourse im megabroke
like how can i keep gold beyomd 5k is miracle

[onyx flame]

then just grab the 12 hour c and continue on with your day

[ivory sigil]

yeah i always pick the 12hours

or if no choice i would go for least mats/comms/scrap

if the choice is all about cube/gold/purple materials, i would refresh.

[trail dagger]

Hello, im trying to focus for Operation Siren With these fleets. i used to run only 1 fleet, which is my bossing fleet but using unicorn instead of monach, does this look good Opsi?

[rain vine]

just go farm some gold and choose the 1.5h G

[ivory sigil]

do i get the gold in return?

i need the gold for 4 SR level gear / aux/ mlb/ rolls before the event end

[rain vine]

no, just farm more

[rain bobcat]

just do rigging and call it day or C if ur really broke

[rain bobcat]

u underestimate how shit new active players have it in terms of gold

even ch9 they still prob cant pass 10k gold at once

research only becomes a non issue at w11+

w9 maybe but ur gonna make 0 progress outside research since you'll barely profit

[ivory sigil]

errr arent we had like 3k8 oil everydady? but it was max level oil regen maybe?

since i'm only lv59, i only able to farm half of the Coredata (aka 48 per day - chapter7hard)
so i assume that is also same as oil and gold, i only get half of oil and gold compare to the chart

I literally spam 500-2000 oil every DAL event runs everyday
it estimate 180 per run so I need to runs like 65 more on DAL event to get 60k for last yoshino

[onyx flame]

3.8k a day is not really a lot esp if you play a lot

that and war archive is very

[rain bobcat]

stop on 55k lol

[rain vine]

what is there to estimate?
the game tells you how much you get per run, 190 on coal and 160 on solo

[rain bobcat]

upto u but I really really dont see a point getting to 60k

u will rarely be crying for bulins unless you pull and mlb every single event

[ivory sigil]

ew why thisresearch is so minimal did i accidentally research something poor?

[onyx flame]

Im going past 60k cause i forgot to account for the skin boxes i wanted to buy

[rain bobcat]

I never go past 55k unless I need gear skin

[late flame]

me at 80k without* a single twins drop on s6

[rain bobcat]

ive gotten twins drop 5 times in 55k

[ivory sigil]

i should pick scrap VI > Basic VIII right?

cuz there were a good gun for newbie in research VI

[valid forge]

👉 👈

[rain vine]

i would take the Q

[ivory sigil]

💀

bro i spam DAL section6 everyday and they only drop Purple/Blue stuff not gray

[rain vine]

laffey, unicorn, saratoga, tohka

[turbid dawn]

Has anyone else had the Harbiter menu bugged for months now? I swear everytime I try to use it it doesn't work

[forest palm]

I haven't seen this menu in years

[plain saffron]

it's been bugged for a while yeah

[rain bobcat]

bc higher stages dont drop it or barely do

have to farm shitter stagers to get grey plates

[turbid dawn]

I just wanna check to see which negative effect it has on, because it seems if I gotta guess I just don't 1 shot, probs the +VG dmg. But yeah it sucks that you can't

[forest palm]

iirc the scan function shows the mods, right?

[valid forge]

why saratoga is good?

[turbid dawn]

Yeah okay that is a thing, never used that button even though I have every star in OpSi lol, thanks for the workaround

[rain vine]

strong plane setup for mobbing

[rain bobcat]

its also in wiki

[forest palm]

that's understandable

[late flame]

also* fighting the strongest strength harbiter without at least 180 adapts is.. fun

[valid forge]

uh what is mobbing

[forest palm]

ya the only thing it doesn't tell you is the armor type

[late flame]

The fleet that isnt killing the* boss is mob fleet

[rain vine]

mob fleet is the one that fights everything before the boss shows up

[valid forge]

okay

[turbid dawn]

Idk why I don't have 180 tbh because I've 100% completed OpSi for the month, didn't even notice or think about it ngl

[rain bobcat]

gotta love melting before the 3rd shot

[valid forge]

thats will be required in late campaign i guess

[turbid dawn]

How the hell do I get up to 180 adepts then? Because yeah I've done every daily this month, and just spent over 3k AP

[ivory sigil]

where to get saratoga

[valid forge]

got her from gacha or as stage drop ig

[ivory sigil]

man, lucky, if she were in mine i probably had scrap her into medal

cuz yeah the chart telling me follow my heart

[onyx flame]

how do you not have 180 adapts is your map like not fully explored

[ivory sigil]

iirc if u swipe 1st time for gem you also get her for free

[rain vine]

check your adapts in the top left in the opsi map

[plain saffron]

they're already in dorm and is my intent is to abuse them, their affinity is already 0

[turbid dawn]

No I've done everything, I even finished the META fights like 2 weeks ago

[rain vine]

you have max adapts

[onyx flame]

that enuf adapts for harbiter alr

like mine is this but its overkill cause im burning ap boxes at c3

[plain saffron]

according to my calculation, this is more than 180

[violet grail]

Ah ye then it just sucks that theres the 30 morale gate on event, cant really do anything about that I dont think.

[turbid dawn]

Ohhh I saw the '156' on the SS for the fight for harbiter and thought I only had 156 ngl

[rain vine]

this UI tells you the enemy adapts

[plain saffron]

literally unplayable 😔

[rain vine]

you have to look at the boost percentages, those cap out at 70/70/100

[valid forge]

so like tohka is the only fine sr i have?

[late flame]

Just realised that as well kek
Dang probably only seen that screen like once after starting AL about 3 years ago... since then all i do is scan

[rain vine]

i guess origami, since you already have 1 limit break, and shes on the level of enterprise

[valid forge]

okay

thanks

[analog tendon]

WTF?! Why does the game says i already used up my 3 Hard daily attempts when i definitely did not?

[plain saffron]

try relogin

[analog tendon]

already tried, still 0/3

never had this happen before

[rain bobcat]

surely not lol

u should easily be 200+ with every daily +3k ap over the full map clear

[ivory sigil]

does the daily mission for clearing 1 hardmode still there?

[rain bobcat]

maybe ur just old

[whole crypt]

sup mogs

[drowsy quest]

Dumb question but how do i use the data pack ? To level up my ships

[atomic abyss]

Press the exp bar

[drowsy quest]

Feel so dumb, i didnt even know i have those

Thanks

[tulip tinsel]

most of that oil comes from max lvl canteen(2304)

[analog tendon]

No, no daily quests left

[rain vine]

did you happen to clear a hard mode about 8 hours ago?

[drowsy quest]

Can i change my fleet on siren operation after i start? Cant figure out how

[atomic abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/azur-lane-gif-25770903

[woven star]

technically Saratoga's incredibly ship according to her stats. Big issue that main damage from her comes from DB (2 slots) which in our meta reality isn't incredible unfortunately. They slow, have good area damage but without AA. Imo that's why she good for beginners or some hard stges where AVI is a main stat but low value for late games. I have hope we'll get some DB changes in some future but not now.

[atomic abyss]

Well

[drowsy quest]

Damn best tutorial ever! Thanks dude

[atomic abyss]

The main reason she's good for beginners is because

1. She's relatively easy to get
2. Good dive bombers are relatively easy to come by

Helldivers after all

[woven star]

yes. her value little bit low cos between DB and TB ppl choose second choice. It's doesn't mean she's bad but imo DB meta needs some changes

hope we seen this soon... changes

I like Saratoga, maybe now second AVI stats after Esex retro. solid

[onyx flame]

rainbow dauntless trust

[plain saffron]

unless it's faster than normal db not much gonna change for her

[woven star]

imo AA... but slow rld too

to be sure... DB have AA but why so low?

[quartz nest]

does event coalition battle consume morale?

[tulip tinsel]

ofc

[fast skiff]

Asking for a friend who’s new to the game, Neptune is still a very solid ship right? Especially with her new augment? Who does she generally work well with?

[boreal wagon]

you are aware plane aa guns dont actually use the AA stat?

[summer niche]

Should I mlb Tohka and level in preference over Sandy?

[fast skiff]

San Diego will be better long term if you care purely about meta

[woven star]

I mean between Flapjack, F6F Hellcat, Bréguet, Wyvern and Tenrai with Helldiver the two last plains always will be behind as a choice

maybe I'm wrong but as for me DB slots it's last thing which I wonna see on CV

[summer niche]

I see, thanks! I already have her mlb and at level 70. Do I start switching her out for one of my newbies?
(Javelin, Helena, Portland)

[fast skiff]

Portland, Helena and Sandy sounds solid

[summer niche]

Aw, no torpies?
No spaicy burrito delivery?

[fast skiff]

Portland is a friendly beginner ship that has solid defensive stats. Before long you’ll phase her out when you get someone better. I actually don’t know if Tohka herself can do that

[summer niche]

hehe, makes sense though, in the harder event missions I've started to feel her squishyness once her evasion starts to get outmatched.

[fast skiff]

I’m not sure how the DAL ships stand, collab ships are usually solid until you get better things though. Everything comes with enough time in this game

You’ll be wanting two fleets anyways, Portland Helena Sandy is a very solid beginner boss vanguard

[dense knot]

whats the best way to get the medals in dal event

[tulip tinsel]

s6 coalition

[onyx flame]

does but since in coalition its spread between 4 fleets, the drain is super slow

[dense knot]

where is sector 6

[tulip tinsel]

in the middle

[onyx flame]

unlock once you clear the previous sectors once

[fast skiff]

What makes Sandy so lethal is her retrofit and augment. It’ll take you a while to get her done and she does want a lot of resources. But it’s very much worth the investment.

[quartz nest]

alright thanks

[dense knot]

oh wait i need multiple formations for coalition how can i clear that

[onyx flame]

if you cant then do solo

you dont need full fleets btw if you ship is decent gear plus high level

[woven star]

there's always two points imo and there's no for 100% true. Tohka good tank and maye better than Portland. But same point as second tank Anchorage needs tech points where 120 lvl on Portland, Helena and SanD can give these points. In some sence Kurumi and Tohka slow down progress but ppl says it's solid ships. This choice on the player. It's my point

[west steeple]

what gear do I spend my cores on? I have 2.3k cores, I'm returning player at mid game.

[peak fable]

Sandy is 1000% the better choice. She pretty much singlehandedly nullifies 1 of the 2 major challenges in this game (planes). Literally no ship matches what Sandy can do.
There are so many ships for the role of dps and tank, but there is not a single ship that AAs like Sandy.

[sonic patrol]

Im just came back for the collab since 2020
Does old ship have a chance at clearing new content? Im talking about Enterprise Belfast Prinz ect

[peak fable]

Unless you are extremely wasteful, you should always have enough mats to get your Sandy going pretty quickly

[tulip tinsel]

prinz and belfast bad enty can be useful

[fast skiff]

Both seem like solid options yeah. But with enough time they’ll catch up, I’m not as familiar with Tohka and Portland is a tried and true solid option

[onyx flame]

spec core or protocore? spec core is mainly saved for ur bulins, might get retro items like diego/ddg ones in the future)
if its protocore follow this get gold gear first as they are limited to 20 bps a month and you need 25 to craft one

[fast skiff]

I forget if you get tech points for retrofits or not it’s been a while since I was at that point lol

[onyx flame]

tohka is just better port, if your not short on sr bulins she's better than port already

[tulip tinsel]

only obtaining mlb and lvl 120 gives tech points

[west steeple]

uh the core monthly

[fast skiff]

Generally where do the DAL ships stand on the tier list? (On the fence for buying some of these skins lol)

[onyx flame]

tohka is like top gold CA

[sonic patrol]

Too bad i already oath with Belfast lol. How about Ayanami retrofit?

[tulip tinsel]

useless in harder content

[rain vine]

make a thread and post your dock

[onyx flame]

unless they are super low level/poorly equipped they any fleet can clear event

new content is kinda mmm unless you consider event new content

[fast skiff]

Where are Origami and Yamai sisters standing?

[sonic patrol]

I mean they not bad 5 year ago if not top tier

[grim siren]

DAL ships can be used, they're above average SSRs but not end game ships like the URs

[onyx flame]

origami is like =ish to enty from what i heard, and the twin sister are also pretty good
just know that the as the event + skin may never rerun

[sonic patrol]

At least she use able right?

[fast skiff]

I’m basically at 100% completion I just build random things for funsies atp so beating endgame content with them isn’t as important for me

[fast skiff]

Word, thank you for the insight. I haven’t seen much discussion around them so I didn’t know where they stand

[peak fable]

depends on your definition of usable, but if you enjoy manual, for sure

[sonic patrol]

Then who i need to get to replace her?

[woven star]

True. I have Portland and Tohka. But I'm not sure they have place in my fleet) This's all depends on ship in dock

[onyx flame]

you could check their useful ness in endgame in the tierlist, plus suchi made video on almost all of em as well

[viscid swift]

What do you have to work with

[tulip tinsel]

send ss of dock in a thread or smth

[viscid swift]

Tohka is infinitely better

She's got 130% of Portland's ehp and is close to the tip for vanguard damage

[indigo idol]

Whats the difference between these 3

[viscid swift]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13YbPw3dM2eN6hr3YfVABIK9LVuCWnVZF0Zp2BGOZXc0/edit?usp=drivesdk

[hollow gust]

1. AA plane for w15 support fleet
2. Heavy armor specialist but trash at basically everything else.
3. Medium armor specialist

[sonic patrol]

Return player need help with building a new team

[indigo idol]

The AA plane, is it good compared to the other community suggested fighters?

[hollow gust]

It's only good for using in w15 support fleet , useless everywhere else

[indigo idol]

Damm

[weary gust]

With the faster reload and slower plane speed that "new" plane (I assume it's new because I didn't know about it) is better than purple fockes yes?

[indigo idol]

Yes

[hollow gust]

Pretty sure that's just the spam in all 6 slots plane

[sonic patrol]

There my dock ss https://discord.com/channels/456397991847395339/1444361604375248996

[fiery laurel]

do i need all kurumis or works also SR bulins for max limit break on kurumi?

[onyx flame]

might as well save on bulins and get the kurumi dupes

[grim siren]

Tohka and Kurumi is definitely usable, you could mlb the Yamai sisters and use them aswell, and since you have a Warspite retro, get her Augment Module as well as Shoukaku Augment Module

[fiery laurel]

I ask if I don't get the points in the next 4 days. so short both ways works?

[onyx flame]

thats prob spec cores, you want to save em, only buy ur bulins when you have enough to mlb
assuming your talking about this

[onyx flame]

yea both ways work

[fiery laurel]

ok thank u

[tawny night]

how do i retire cats ?

[rain vine]

feed em to other cats

[tawny night]

ty

[sonic patrol]

Can i use all collab unit in 1 fleet or is that not good enough

[grim siren]

Yes, though without a dedicated healer, you might struggle

Btw, do you have Independence?

[sonic patrol]

I have akashi

[west steeple]

yeah that

[grim siren]

Ah- well... I mean you can't auto farm stages without manually healing though

[onyx flame]

get unicorn if you havent

[grim siren]

Definitely priority Unicorn

I second to Independence Retro, she has the best CV support (both inside and outside the fleet) an AA monster, as well as a good Mobbing ship

[onyx flame]

i mean they got a thread with other helping so see what the other are saying

[sonic patrol]

Done

[onyx flame]

actually just reply in the thread you made lmao

[drowsy quest]

Is Agir good?

[grim siren]

Now with that, do you have Hellcats, Corsairs, (or any gold Fighter) to equip her and Barracuda torpedo plane?

[grim siren]

She's purely a Tank, she can get the job done

Though she can also armor break and slow enemies aswell

[sonic patrol]

Only old fighter and barracuda

[grim siren]

Good enough

If you have the materials to build Flapjacks, build and use it, Tigercat can be used aswell

You could use Sea Hornets but it's too expensive to be worth it

[sonic patrol]

Can i use any of this?

[onyx flame]

these are aight

anyway conslidate your advice for the guy in his thread https://discord.com/channels/456397991847395339/1444361604375248996

[grim siren]

Is this a good tierlist for general gameplay right?

https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/main/bb

[viscid swift]

Ehhh

[viscid swift]

Also these should not be a priority from the lab

[grim siren]

Ah- my mistake

[viscid swift]

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/gear-lab

[dense knot]

are the yamai twins better than portland or helena at the front line

[grim siren]

You can use them as tanks albeit for mobbing only ~~and why Helena as a tank!?!? ~~

[agile patrol]

how does Origami compare to others like Essex retro and Enterprise?

[knotty jolt]

iirc like 70% as strong as enty

[agile patrol]

I guess it's better than nothing

[agile patrol]

Could work as a transitional..?

[onyx flame]

origami is basically equal to enty

from suchi vid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgLI5DgRj0M

[ivory sigil]

All i know is they are SR collab and + free augment

Does that make it sound better than Helena and Plotland? Pvp shall solve

[true lichen]

Where can i get this tbd devastator from

[primal yew]

Can anyone help me update my opsi fleet I'll make a thread

Updating my old OpSi fleet

[ocean terrace]

there are terrible SRs in the game though, the DAL ones are all above average and the vanguards at the top of SRs

[onyx flame]

t2/t3 EU boxes, but might as well open T3 EU and hope to get sb2c helldivers that way

[true lichen]

Ty

[dense knot]

i mean those 2 are at the front

and the twins can replace either so im wondering if theyd be better

[wind hazel]

can replace portland

[grim siren]

If it's for mobbing you can use her as a tank, but for bossing, unlikely

[wind hazel]

can use as boss tank as well

[ocean terrace]

why do you say that? I'm curious

[grim siren]

Dunno, haven't tested it on bossing, I usually use CBs on bosses

[wind hazel]

[ocean terrace]

I'm pretty sure they're a new player though and you don't really get CBs early on

[grim siren]

Ah- my bad

Since they have 132% ehp in suchiguma video, they can definitely tank,

[ocean terrace]

they're a mix of tank/DPS, kinda like Tohka but a little worse I'm pretty sure

[grim siren]

But atleast they're much more accessible to new players than to rely on rng pulls

[pine whale]

• Am I still in time for skill leveling event
• Do I level Wargod Of Solomon, Time Eating Castle, or Sister Penn next? (Note: Unicorn heal is maxed)
• My team is Free 4+Kurumi+Laffey, for context

[next escarp]

Avfehttps://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/main/ca

This link up to date?

[ivory pawn]

/tierlist

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Ship Tier Lists

Please note that tier lists are subjective and evaluation criteria differ from creator to creator. We encourage users to use multiple guides to get a better picture for ships' performance and said criteria.

🔹Rankings for End Game Azur Lane - Applicable to all forms of late game content (W14/15, META Showdowns, OPSI, CM) by Suchiguma
🔹CN tier list - by NGA Forum

use /equip for list of equipment TLs and guides
use /guide for list of helpful gameplay guides and FAQs

[next escarp]

Thanks friend

[ivory pawn]

Try those instead. Slaimuda's not... terrible, but it's not well liked.

[next escarp]

Is there a English version, I can't read Chinese

[ocean terrace]

might be better off trying the spreadsheet, includes a lot more details

[undone plover]

The first link is english

[ivory pawn]

If you mean the ability to instafinish a book 10x a day, it should last until maintenance so you've got 5 days including today.
I vote Time-Eating Castle, then Sister Penn if you're still using Penn.

[pine whale]

I'm near level 50 in ship average. Does that contribute to anything?

Roger

[ocean terrace]

if I'm at the level where I've only just formed a mob fleet and boss fleet, should I be tackling opsi the same way I do with campaign? where I clear non-siren fleets with mob and use boss for the siren ones? or is 1 fleet for all better considering my fleets aren't quite there yet

[undone plover]

Mob and boss is fine

When u get enough good ships u can make 4 fleets
Most veterans use 1 fleet for everything except hard arbiter later on

[ocean terrace]

my problem is since I had been using 1 fleet before, some of my ships in the now mixed mob and boss fleet aren't at the level of my other ships

they're all about level 80-90 and mlb but still not quite there

and I'm hesitant on investing into some of them anyway, like Maryland retrofit, Saratoga retro, Prinz Eugen, Z23
since they don't provide value later on and are placeholders

[stray crane]

u def need stuff over 100 for opsi

they dont have the ammo limit so u can just use 1 fleet to clear stuff

[ocean terrace]

yeah but some of these ships are really not great but are the best I have

and I'd need to retrofit half of them for them to be useful (a looot of resources)

[stray crane]

maybe u can clear lower zones first

[pine whale]

What's the difference between Normal and Hard Mode in the event? Clearly it can't be like in Campaign

[stray crane]

do the lower one

[ivory pawn]

Harder is more difficult, but you get more rewards. That's it.

[undone plover]

If your mob is stronger then using mob for everything is fine

[pine whale]

Those being?

[ocean terrace]

this is what I was recommended by Cheeky, and I put in Prinz and Z23 since they're both already levelled + I need IB vanguard exp for Roon

[stray crane]

more event point

[pine whale]

Fucking shit. Thank you.

[ocean terrace]

my only fleet before was Kotori, Unicorn, Enterprise / Tohka, Helena, Kurumi

[stray crane]

one more day its gonna reset

I think after reset u get tickets to exchange stuff from the supply shop

i think u get tickets based on how many zones u clear

[silk sphinx]

in this event, just difficulty and hence reward.

in other regular map events, hard mode stages may have oilcap while reg stages don't, and you may have to do the last stage in hard mode to unlock SP stage

[ivory pawn]

It's based on how many of certain resources you have at the end of the month.

But yes, the more zones you clear the more tickets you get.

[pine whale]

Yes I know. Been told about X4 for Unicorn

[silk sphinx]

go to inventory in opsi. a lot of that stuff is wiped out after monthly opsi reset, some without giving anything, while some will be exchanged for tickets

[stray crane]

yeah i see it

[silk sphinx]

you don't rly get more tickets for clearing more zones, it's purely based on the stuff you have in inventory

[stray crane]

i used a couple logger i was 5k before

[ivory pawn]

Using loggers are worth.

[silk sphinx]

yeah that's fine, using the loggers is more useful than converting them

[stray crane]

i cant clear the boss one tho should i still do it ?

[onyx flame]

Yea

[stray crane]

i can get her to 80%

[silk sphinx]

the arbiter center of map? gives useful resources. Plus the normal boss can be fought repeatedly and won't reset

[stone sluice]

Max CVs tech is 77?

[onyx flame]

There dmg threshold that give mats so if you can reach those do em

[silk sphinx]

just fight her continuously until she dies. Hard mode you'll need to clear in one go though

[ivory pawn]

The abyssal loggers, not arbiter.

[silk sphinx]

just check if you tuning is good, + gearing + fleet setup

[ocean terrace]

I'm unable to find shop priority for opsi exchange/resupply so where would I find that?

[stray crane]

if i exit the boss is gone

[onyx flame]

There no real prio its really just clear out the whole shop cept gibraltar that give meta mats and hp boxes/adapts

At least for those past chp 4 in opsi story

[silk sphinx]

ok those are called abyssals, and yeah once you enter, then leaving means giving up on further rewards from it

[ocean terrace]

does that refer to operation level, if so I'm on 2

[onyx flame]

There are side enemies? Iirc so you can clear the down state twice assuming no one sinks
Can also use that 50ap command

[stray crane]

how about the one in the center zone ? normal arbiter

[ivory pawn]

just fight her continuously until she dies. Hard mode you'll need to clear in one go though

[onyx flame]

That one you can exit and heal and go back in like strongholds

[onyx flame]

No there campaign story in opsi chapter 4 is where you unlock the full monthly reset opsi

[silk sphinx]

some stuff is more useful. Can you clear the siren strongholds? major source of the purple tokens

[ocean terrace]

I've only completed the tutorial in opsi, not completely sure how it works

[stray crane]

prob gonna take me couple hours to kill her lol one run i can only get 7 lives out of her

its she even worth clearing ?

[silk sphinx]

then we'll touch on this later probably. operation siren only resets once you get to a certain stage in the opsi story (i think pre chapter 4 boss)

so until then, opsi shop stock will remain the same, just rotate occasionally iirc

nothing in opsi shop is immediately useful either other than tuning (which can be farmed normally), so no need to worry

[ocean terrace]

Alright ty

I'll just try progress and clear out as much as I can then

[ivory pawn]

If you can manage to clear chapter 4 before the month ends that'd be a great boon to progression, but not a loss if you can't.

[silk sphinx]

they're at tutorial, and there's like two days left i doubt it

[errant jacinth]

if I'm trying to get royale navy tech points, should I be lvling and limit breaking even the common (grey) ships?

[onyx flame]

Depends on how much you need but it is cheap

[silk sphinx]

sure why not? cost is very low

[sweet delta]

Do you need Royal Navy tech points so early?

[stark quiver]

Limit break with dupes
Not bulins

[sweet delta]

Plymouth isn't coinable yet

[silk sphinx]

that said early game yes coins can be in short supply, so decide yourself. also don't waste elite bulins on commons

[errant jacinth]

I want chesire and I need like 700 tech points to research her

[silk sphinx]

just use common duplicate ships

[errant jacinth]

do the ships drop from the event stage? I feel like I get way more drops from the main campaign stages

[ivory pawn]

Nope, no ship drops from this event.

[stray crane]

it does drop that sr ship

[errant jacinth]

oh also is there anything besides the collab ships & the two artifacts worth getting from the eevent shop?

[stark quiver]

my hakuhou is 125/200 and not max enhanced

[silk sphinx]

the ships? i think this event only has one possible drop ship - the Super Rare Event Shop shipe one

[ivory pawn]

Correction, one ship drop from this event that you're probably not going to see.

[silk sphinx]

if that one doesn't drop, then you get nothing, whereas in campaign stages, each cleared mob, if cleared at S completion, guarantees a ship drop if boss, otherwise high chance (almost certainly a common though for mobs)

[ivory pawn]

The guarantee is only for boss.

[errant jacinth]

ok that sounds about right from what I've noticed at least

[stray crane]

I traded one dropped 2 for me

[ivory pawn]

Mobs are RNG, but the drop rate is pretty high.

[silk sphinx]

yep corrected

[silk sphinx]

tbh depends, since you have to farm that stage a lot your chances of getting her via drop are substantial

[ocean terrace]

Yeah I got 3 copies of her when farming to 60k points

[stray crane]

she pretty strong too

[hollow pier]

So I finished getting all season 8 ships to dev30 and suddenly all of the face projects came back. I wanted to stay on this season cause I thought the face projects would be gone and I could have better odds with blueprint focused projects. Is this normal?

[forest palm]

yes, it's normal as you finish ships they are removed from the pool, then once you finish the whole season it puts them back

[ocean terrace]

stupid question but how do I switch out ships from my fleet in opsi

[forest palm]

not so stupid, cause the game is obtuse about it, go to a blue port hit the top left diamond on the HUD

[sweet delta]

The other parts of this help menu are pretty terrible but at least this sentence is correct

[fallen jay]

Is it ok to retrofit ping and Ning hai if I need to grind for exp for Harbin?

[knotty jolt]

i mean it's not needed they're still dragon empery but it would make them stronger

[ocean terrace]

I'm confused on how to progress in opsi, I was just clearing areas with the green mission icon but now there aren't any left? Do I just clear every unexplored/grey area now?

[sweet delta]

check story

[gilded carbon]

green is simply a daily, so to speak. You can pick them up for extra rewards. And yes, yoou want to clear as many areas as possible

[cobalt robin]

clear story chapter 4 at least if you havent already

[void turtle]

For OpSi, should I have vestel/akashi in one of my extra fleets?

[rain vine]

its not needed

[void turtle]

Doesn't healing ships cost currency in OpSi?

[ocean terrace]

any point saving these? or can I just use them if I need points anytime

[cobalt robin]

month ending soon so just use them

[rain vine]

not when you have unicorn carrying your mob fleet

[ocean terrace]

oh does opsi completely reset after the month ends?

[void turtle]

But wouldn't they heal my boss fleet?

[cobalt robin]

yea it resets

[ocean terrace]

up to chapter 4 right?

[cobalt robin]

the story doesnt reset, just the map

[ocean terrace]

ah got it ty

[rain vine]

opsi has special heal items that you can get that cost nothing to use

[cobalt robin]

whatever you have left in your storage gets converted to these vouchers, though not every item (i forgor), the vouchers you can use in the exchange shop which you unlock after clearing chapter 4

[void turtle]

But it also doesn't hurt to have vestel/akashi in the 3rd or 4th fleet since i will be primarily using the first two fleets, correct?

[ocean terrace]

right I was wondering why I couldn't find that currency from the shop priority site, thank you

[cobalt robin]

the value you will get from them is negligible

[rain vine]

its completely unnecessary, youre using your mob fleet for 90% of opsi content, and you get tons of repair packs by just clearing stuff like normal

[cobalt robin]

and healing with currency is pretty cheap

[void turtle]

So... don't put them in the fleets I'm not using?

[cobalt robin]

not worth it

[void turtle]

I don't understand... how is a free partial health not worth it?

[stark quiver]

It doesn’t

[rain vine]

if you want to put them in, you can, but you aint gonna be using the heals they provide

[ivory pawn]

Because at the end of the month you will have hundreds of repair kits that'll be sitting there unused.

[rain vine]

eventually you want a mob fleet, bb fleet, cv, fleet, and a crossfleet/anti armor fleet, so repair ships will just be dead weight

[cobalt robin]

instead you could make a crossfleet fleet and a cv fleet

[sweet delta]

Bruh just shut up and let him use a repair ship, it's objectively a good choice for new players

@void turtle you are correct

[vale spindle]

repair ship counts as crossfleet in opsi yes

[void turtle]

thats what I read on the cross fleet thing in #bot-spam which is why I was asking

[vale spindle]

Just know that effect doesn't stack with itself so more than 1 is actually a dead slot

[void turtle]

yeah, I was just going to use 1 of them in the 3/4th fleet

[sweet delta]

Level 1 and 0lb repair works

[void turtle]

I have an akashi at lv100

I'm not completely new... but very unfamiliar with OpSi and Gear Lab

[vale spindle]

opsi is just "does this zone have a mark on it" -> clear it

[ocean terrace]

what should I be doing with these?

[vale spindle]

doesn't really matter both are usually a net loss of vouchers

[ocean terrace]

then don't do it?

[vale spindle]

no you should do it, but both options are about equal

[sweet delta]

If the zone has a star to do it then you should do it

/wiki siren zones

[odd root]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/List_of_Operation_Siren_Zones

[ocean terrace]

it's letting me use it multiple times, should I keep going? I thought it'd be a one-time use thing

[vale spindle]

yes keep going

[tulip tinsel]

after a few times it disappears

[ocean terrace]

but is there a point because I tried the enemy-tracking one twice and it didn't do anything the 2nd time

[sweet delta]

Only do it once.

[sweet delta]

Net loss so why do it more? Only do once for star or zero times if you know there's no star

[vale spindle]

i thought you needed to do all of it to get the star

[tulip tinsel]

hidden material one ain't that bad

[vale spindle]

Unless I'm misremembering

cause i remember the animation for that happening after i finished all of it

[ocean terrace]

oh and not sure which to choose for these either

[vale spindle]

Smash

[ocean terrace]

is this all on a guide by the way, if so I'll read it happily

[vale spindle]

its not cause if you clear opsi fully the min maxing won't really really matter overall

so nobody cared enough to min max that hard

[ocean terrace]

right got it thanks

[void turtle]

Is there a way to specify which fleet fight the boss fleets in OpSi if you set it to auto search the map?

[vale spindle]

no auto search one fleets everything

that's why you should stack you strongest ships in one fleet (plus unicorn) to start with, then before doing any of the boss zones like red chest you can go adjust your fleets to be more boss focused

[uneven knot]

do u guys buy the opsi data logger for 5000 oil every reset?

[stark quiver]

I do now

[steady rain]

who should i pick from the 400/400 UR exchange? i also have shinano or NJ from handbook selector

[sweet delta]

Shinano

[steady rain]

anyone from UR exchange is ok?

[drowsy quest]

Is Deway Meta good?

[tulip tinsel]

waste of oil

[cobalt robin]

It's very much a convenient thing, I don't really buy it since I play regularly and the 5k oil could be used for better things

[ocean terrace]

I'm looking at the gear lab site and wondering if it's only worth crafting gear that's S or A ranked for new players

there's a couple missions/rewards I'd like but not sure what to craft, and I can't craft any of the high valued ones so should I just wait till I can?

referring to this btw: https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/gear-lab

[cobalt rapids]

tenzan kai is purple so its cheap

[forest palm]

relying solely on the ratings won't give you a comprehensive idea on how to use the gear

[ocean terrace]

for most of them I don't even have the materials to be honest, though I assume that's from a lack of pushing opsi

[hollow plank]

Hello! is the event where there is a blue button and discount and you get meta dewey gone? 😮 i can't sem to find the tab wher ei saw it. the one wher eyou can buy the tier below also for 7.99 USD it hink that gives a fox skin

[violet grail]

If youre super casual and have trouble using up your oil go for it especially if thats the difference maker between you clearing opsi at all or not.

If you play regularly then its a waste, could definetly make better use of that oil.

[forest palm]

I've always gotten the Oil Logger, the convince is worth it to me, cuts down time waste of having ot manually clear, it's there for the lazy

[ocean terrace]

well, what is there I need to know? other than which gear is good against what hull types.
if someone or something tells me: this gear has high damage blah blah blah then that's all I need no?

[vale spindle]

That still should be available on the cruise mission tab i think

[ocean terrace]

I don't even think I'm at the point where I need to worry much about hull types anyway, but apart from that is there anything else I should know?

[hollow plank]

ohh thank you!

[vale spindle]

U have until dec 1 then on dec 1 it rolls over to next cruise cycle

[forest palm]

basically a day and some change

[void turtle]

hmm... I could use some help figuring out fleets for w12 hard. I'm short 600 TRP

[violet grail]

Reward #10 for the first copy so you probably already got it.

[violet grail]

Did you fill your second fleet with high torp stat ships like destroyers? Theres also auxes that can give torp stat.

[hollow plank]

Found it thank you!

lastly, is there a tier item list? i saw the one for ships but haven't seen the one for items. Thanks a bunch!

[ocean terrace]

for gear? https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide

oops my bad

I like to use this one too, depending on how much I need to see https://azurlaneecgc.com/equipment/

[void turtle]

I have SanD in my 2nd fleet to cover the AA req

[violet grail]

I mean you can just sort by torp stat in your dock for both fleets first see if you can even hit the requirement at all then work your way back from that switching in better ships for actual fighting.

And also if you have either of these might help:

[drowsy quest]

Who is a good meta from the shop?

Are they necessary ?

[forest palm]

none of them are useful outside of the end game stat they give

like to the average player they're useless

[violet grail]

META faction ships are not good to fight with but they dont take up dock space so you can just grab some if you wanna set as secretary to look pretty. I like yamashiro and fusou.

[drowsy quest]

Lol the good call right here thanks

[void turtle]

Thanks, I think I figured out fleets that cover what is needed.... just not sure how they will perform

[violet grail]

Good luck, getting at least just 12-1 hard for the extra bit of daily core data would be nice but if you gotta stick to World 11 for a bit longer thats not so bad, will get there eventually.

[void turtle]

I'll have to wait until tomorrow to test it out. used my daily hard clears already today

[vale hill]

what's the best way to farm points for this

[sweet delta]

just normal farming with her in boss fleet. Or if event coalition mode, her in the last fleet

[vale hill]

how do i perm recruit them?

[rapid shard]

Get to 1k points

[west steeple]

Is Dewey Meta worth to build at mid game?

[rain bobcat]

no

[olive urchin]

How does meeting the faction requirement for PR ships work? Is it total level of your ships of that country or something?

[soft raft]

/fleettech

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Q: How do I get more fleet technology points?
You get fleet tech points by:
Collecting the ship (~20%)
Max Limit Breaking it (~45%)
Achieving level 120 (~35%)

-Higher rarity ships gives more fleet tech pts .
-Heavier ship hulls also gives more fleet tech pts: CV=BB>CA>CL>DD

Side notes:
-PR ships give more fleet tech pts than normal but follow the above formula with development 30 replacing MLB.
-META ships are considered a separate META faction. They give same bonuses as their non-META versions.
-Collab ships, Muse and little versions of ships e.g. Li'l Sandy, Clevelad and Lena etc do not give any fleet tech pts.
-Iron Blood faction ships receive double the normal tech points compared to other nations.

For more information and exact amounts, consult the wiki
You can also use this Fleet Tech Tracker by mrlar

[soft raft]

Elite METAs are never worth building for any practical purpose at all no matter your progression

At the very least be glad that METAs no longer take up dock space

[kind slate]

Should I get state of sponsorship and also, is sandy the best option for rainbow aa? W15 btw

[tulip tinsel]

sandy highest AA vanguard ship with her retrofit and augment

[rain bobcat]

give her sexy bofors instead

[kind slate]

She have it already but planes are destroying my boss fleet in 15-1..

[stark quiver]

whats the rest of your fleet

and their gears

[kind slate]

This

[wind hazel]

lol you almost zero AA outside of sandiego and that wyvern

[rain bobcat]

because sandy cant full carry solo lol

sandy isnt some magical "use her and ur aa needs disappear"

you still need other competent w15 ships

[wind hazel]

do you have other CV instead of shinano? and more wyvern/breguet, also i'd move guam to boss, and have someone else on mob

[viscid swift]

I would also just like to point out 15-1 is the tutorial stage effectively, things only get harder from here and significantly so

[wind hazel]

even independence is fine

change amagi loadout to flapjack wyvern breguet or flapjack tenrai wyvern/breguet. change all BB aux gun back to triple 155

use crossbow aug

and sandy should have her own aug

[sweet delta]

Independence mob does double of raffaellos damage by stat padding AA damage

[knotty jolt]

NGL that is quite similar to my own fleet

[stark quiver]

this is better

[viscid swift]

why the lack of Breguets

[kind slate]

Aight I’ll move my wyverns

[stark quiver]

there was one breguet in their ss

[kind slate]

I have these

[viscid swift]

also btw, level disadvanatge also factors in for fighter intercept damage

[kind slate]

Yea sorry I don’t edit it properly everyone in team is125

Also what abt state of sponsorship

[wind hazel]

just use indep for now

[kind slate]

Is this not worth getting?

[wind hazel]

for what

[kind slate]

The mob fleet

[wind hazel]

not gonna do anything

[rain bobcat]

lowkey I would put lion in mob

[kind slate]

who would go boss?

[rain bobcat]

if u have no raffaelo or musashi then lion mob zwei/alsace/soyuz boss

[kind slate]

U mean like 1 of the three right?

[rain bobcat]

yes

[slow fox]

Like 60% proud, yeah. At least its' not offensive aux

[sweet delta]

6 battleship w15 trust

[slow fox]

Definitely not

[viscid swift]

hey, I didn't have enough aux slots for rudders

[slow fox]

[atomic vortex]

Me looking at properly built CVs knowing damn well my Floof got the random bullshit go treatment

[stark quiver]

these builds are kinda meh

[soft raft]

No off topic images

[stark quiver]

tbf....

[atomic vortex]

Wdym bro that's literally me

[wind hazel]

no pic of you either

[soft raft]

The pins say no

[atomic vortex]

Truly just put random shit I had on her

[wind hazel]

shinano but her power is of a dog rather than a magical fox

[atomic vortex]

At the very least she has catapults👍

NJ and Richelieu have improved tho right

No fucking idea why I called NJ Sheffy

[viscid swift]

Richelieu's main gun is still garbage

[reef bane]

yo i didnt know you could rename ships

[atomic vortex]

Cant be that bad

[atomic vortex]

Gotta Oath first

[viscid swift]

literally worse than a +10 Mk6 like you have on NJ

[atomic vortex]

Then you can change the names to anything you want, with no moderation to my knowledge

[dawn zealot]

There's a number of alphanumerical combinations that are not allowed.

[viscid swift]

there's more than a few

[atomic vortex]

Stg I've seen some fucking heinous names

[dawn zealot]

Yeah, some that are not allowed aren't even offensive in any way

[viscid swift]

well no

some are offensive or could be interpreted as offensive/inappropriate in english and others not in english

[atomic vortex]

Sheffy build better now?

[tulip tinsel]

how long was the time you have to wait before changing ship name?

[viscid swift]

that's pretty much the reason behind all the banned combinations

[viscid swift]

just follow this my dude
https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide/

[atomic vortex]

No BPs for gold steering gear

[viscid swift]

and don't mistake the quints for the quads

[dawn zealot]

A month in between renames

[atomic vortex]

Huh

[viscid swift]

the torps

[plush inlet]

What Vanguards have the high AA other than San Diego?

[viscid swift]

sort by AA in the vanguard section https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13YbPw3dM2eN6hr3YfVABIK9LVuCWnVZF0Zp2BGOZXc0/edit?gid=0#gid=0

[plush inlet]

Cheers.

[uncut ocean]

are these worth making, and if yes who should i prioritize them on

[onyx flame]

La-9 are the best fighters against med/heavy
while hindy gun is the best against med/heavy or mob for CA

[soft raft]

That CA gun is the best anti-medium CA Gun and that plane is mainly for Anti-medium/heavy in OpSi

Who specifically would get that plane heavily depends on composition and timing

[hollow gust]

newbies will use both gears for everything

[ocean terrace]

are new retrofits added to the game often? where they'd make an unviable ship pretty good?

[wind hazel]

few times a year

[agile patrol]

Should I use orange shell with black shell for Lion, or orange with HSFCR?

[soft raft]

and the qualiy of the retrofit varies a good amount on a case by case basis

[wind hazel]

white+hpfcr

[agile patrol]

fuck

[ocean terrace]

I assume there's no real way to predict which ships get retrofits

[agile patrol]

THANK UUUUUU!!!! IT'S IMPOLITE OF ME TO RESPOND TO UR amazing ADVICE WITH a swear word 🥰

[wind hazel]

basically we get chinese retros on LNY, then on CN, JP and global anni

[wind hazel]

it's ok idc, i say fuck 24/7 too

[late flame]

-# fuck manjuu for the lame island planning

[ocean terrace]

I asked earlier today but just to clarify, for which ship should I craft an augment module for?
I'm avoiding Sandy's for now as I don't have the bulins or resources to mlb/retro her

[onyx flame]

Sara if your planning to use her long ish term

[late flame]

none if you generally lack coin and/or the material

[rain bobcat]

none

tohka and sandy should be ur first augments

[ocean terrace]

I kinda want to for the handbook mission rewards

[rain bobcat]

you only have to mlb sandy not retro her

[ivory sigil]

wait do we get anything from playing it? like exp/coin/gear/oil/cube???

[rain bobcat]

I'd rather not dump 20k for nothing

[late flame]

sandy retrofit can wait until you have access to campaign w13 or later

[rain bobcat]

no

[ocean terrace]

I'm so low on gold ahhh alright

[onyx flame]

Then dont make any

[rain bobcat]

you get nothing outside of affinity gifts where 1 gift = 1 affinity

[late flame]

yeah i uninstalled that mode - while it was fun its taking up time that i dun have

[ocean terrace]

also if I'm on W9, is it best to farm 9-4 for coins?

[rain bobcat]

maybe

[late flame]

the highest you can do yes

[ocean terrace]

because pre-W9 I was told to farm Polaris, but oil cap is introduced now so

[late flame]

lol no please dun farm ships

[rain bobcat]

[ocean terrace]

Polaris gives aux item + has oil cap

[rain bobcat]

polaris has oil cap lol

it's also unlocked before w9

[late flame]

nvm i read it wrongly as pola*

coffee not kicked in

[ocean terrace]

so I assume 9-4 is superior to Polaris to farm

[rain bobcat]

yes

[late flame]

yep

[ocean terrace]

alright ty

I'm so broke

[late flame]

i remember doing war archive only when i was commander level capped

[ocean terrace]

that's exactly why I was doing it lmao

[late flame]

the aux is not important nowadays given we have so much alternatives, but i suppose its fun to collect one (though 60 runs is eww)

[ocean terrace]

my farming so far has just been: get to 60k event points, farm Polaris

for the last 7 days

[stray crane]

how u guy get so many oils

[ivory sigil]

should i farm merit ? wait why their kurumi so tanky wtf

[late flame]

-# and back then my dumb brain thought* it was repeatable so i actually did 120 runs

[ocean terrace]

I had like 30k before, I'm running out

[onyx flame]

If you actively play you never have enough

[rain bobcat]

he doesn't know chat

[stray crane]

i have 0

[ivory sigil]

howwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

[late flame]

just do pvp - you get medals whether you win or lose

[ocean terrace]

my account is 4 years old, I played it for like 2-3 days when I first got AL then deleted it lmao

[late flame]

its also a gold bulin income source

[onyx flame]

Merits* but yea always do pvp

[stray crane]

stage 10 i need to clear the same map 3 times to unlock the next one

[rain bobcat]

as a matter, you will never not run out of oil if you play very very actively

[stray crane]

I m on 10 -2 rn

[rain bobcat]

when I actually wanted to farm, I finished 400k oil in less than a week

[ocean terrace]

I've just been doing opsi when I'm out of oil (which is half the time)

[wind hazel]

yes, no more 1 clear. you need more later on, some even 4, some even 5

[agile patrol]

what gun should i give eldridge?

[late flame]

i seldom get to burn all my oil becos of IRL stuff lol

[trail dagger]

from commision and the oil factory only?

[onyx flame]

Pushing campaign will always drain oil cause no oil cap among other things

[ivory sigil]

man i still stuck at 59

[onyx flame]

Standard dd guns can prob follow suchi gear guide (pass better guns to dd that needs it more)

[ivory sigil]

how many oil i need to use left to reach lv60

[ocean terrace]

do Polaris war archive

[wind hazel]

what do you have

[rain bobcat]

no, I had 400k from here, down from 600k when PR released and then I decided to farm so I finished all 400k in around 5 days

[ivory sigil]

i haven reach 60k event yet so gotta wait till monday for free 4000 oil

[trail dagger]

i see

[agile patrol]

i have um
okay so this is slightly problematic
i have none.

[rain bobcat]

[ivory sigil]

[zenith heron]

any craftable ones per chance?

[agile patrol]

choose from this list and i shall craft
-# except the rainbows

[ocean terrace]

for the ones where you need to submit blueprints and whatnot, should I wait until I can do it all in one go?

[onyx flame]

If you done some opsi make z46

[onyx flame]

Might as well submit unless you dont mind the red alert that stays

[ocean terrace]

I have loads of red alerts for unclaimed bulin

[agile patrol]

what's z46 gun?

[agile patrol]

i found the z46 gun nvm

[wind hazel]

are you sure

[agile patrol]

i might just be the best azur lane player, like ever.

[stray crane]

i m try clear 10-4 so i can get all those blueprint form the hand book

[agile patrol]

yeah its the one with like. two barrels and a really nice jawline

[wind hazel]

/wiki twin 128mm

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Azur Lane Wiki

Multiple results found

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_128mm_(SK_C/41)
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_128mm/45_SK_C/41
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_127mm_(5"/38_Mk_38)
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_120mm_(QF_Mark_XII)
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_127mm_AA_(Type_89)
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_127mm_(Type_3)
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_120mm_(Model_1936)
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_120mm_(Model_1933)
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_127mm_AA_(Type_89_A1_Mod_2)
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_127mm_(KM40)

Nov 30, 2025, 1:54 AM

[wind hazel]

fuck this wiki

[agile patrol]

yes that one. the one with a jawline

[zenith heron]

do remember its the 6th Gun from what picture you gave above

[wind hazel]

2nd link from the wiki