gameplay-help

[knotty jolt]

look at the right number

[ivory sigil]

i could possibly toss some exp book but perhaps around lv1-40 is doable, beyond that are skeptical

[knotty jolt]

takes 15 for every boost on the left while the right needs 10 for every boost

[viscid swift]

leveling increases the cap at which you can enhance ships yes

also just differnet ships having different enhanccement levels

[knotty jolt]

ships have different numbers for enhanchments

[ivory sigil]

guess imma spam for yudachi then

[viscid swift]

no you should not

especially just for a stat stick

[ocean terrace]

if you can use some to reach 800 TRP, sounds good but not if it's too many

you said you were 714, I'm not sure how many levels it takes to reach 800 but the weaker DDs you have won't cost much xp to raise

[ivory sigil]

can i have the link pls, why did this Elite asanagi so low in trp ? 🥀 did i miss the event to get 5 copies of her which end up she being this clutch?

[viscid swift]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/List_of_Ships_by_Stats#tabber-Level_125

just the wiki page

[rain bobcat]

do you not have ayanami??

[viscid swift]

given you need to MLB all the starters to get her

[atomic abyss]

Wasn't it 2LB all starters

[viscid swift]

might be

[ocean terrace]

what's the difference between these

[ivory sigil]

i start 8 days ago and exact the day which the event end.

[viscid swift]

the boss and their weakness

[ivory sigil]

manage to get 1 copie and poof

now she just laughing at my carrier 😭

[ocean terrace]

they said ayanami

[ivory sigil]

wait isnt that the one require LMB 3 starter ?

[knotty jolt]

iirc the enemies take more damage from that damage type

been forever since i last done one outside quick complete

[stray crane]

i managed to get one too

[ocean terrace]

I've just unlocked it at level 60 😭

[ivory sigil]

this rightr?

[atomic abyss]

Oh it was mlb

Shows how long it has been since I got Aya

Or rather the last time someone asked about Aya

[ocean terrace]

is it worth it at all to MLB the starters? (I don't use any of them)

[ivory sigil]

if i LMB all starter then i wouldnt need to use other DD

cuz all 3 of her are DDs

even Ayanami is DD

[ivory pawn]

Eventually you probably will, but there's no rush.

[soft raft]

You will end up limit breaking alot of ships you'll never use anyways mainly for the tech points

but that's a different matter

[ivory sigil]

could ayanami refer to this ?

idk why they mention JP server but why would JP mention

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[viscid swift]

because each server has a different starter selection

[ivory sigil]

that's explain it, tho idk if i should spend half a hour discuss about some DDs so let's just stick to the plan for later

[viscid swift]

as in the one you can choose after you finish the tutorial

[ivory sigil]

i will do it when i have enough oxytor then
wasting resource for stat stick isnt recommend

or atleast wasting for a worthy one

[knotty jolt]

The one nice thing about ayanami is you just slap the 76mm aa main gun on her and she's good to go forever

[ocean terrace]

she doesn't look great to me...

[knotty jolt]

I mean that's high world stuff

[rain bobcat]

does he know

[ocean terrace]

true but 'worse TRP fleet damager' sounds bad

[knotty jolt]

back in the day ayanami was a barrage spammer

[atomic abyss]

No

[soft raft]

Blud that's the endgame level tierlist of course she wont be good by that point

[atomic abyss]

Back in the day she was a torp nuker

[viscid swift]

still wouldn't invest in her as anything other than a stat stick

[atomic abyss]

She was most certainly not a barrage spammer

She just had no guns of note and her barrage wasnt as shit

[ocean terrace]

well considering people don't recommend ships that aren't considered in endgame, I don't think you could call her 'good to go forever'

people tend to call a ship 'good' if they have any sort of presence on that sheet, from my experience here

[knotty jolt]

my mind only remembers things like aya, kawakaze, and yuudachi as the old barrage spammers

[soft raft]

Not all the time

[atomic abyss]

In any case ibuki exists for "early" torp nuker options

[knotty jolt]

I'm referring to gear requirements. Lots of stuff you can put whatever but there will be better but for something like aya you'd be able to equip her with a best in slot fairly early and cheaply

[subtle grotto]

hey if I put my main fleet into operation siren would it lock them out of being able to do main campaign

[soft raft]

no

[subtle grotto]

ohhh so I can put them in safely?

[soft raft]

you can say that for basically every ship tbh

[ocean terrace]

oh I see, but I assume she's very much an early game ship

[viscid swift]

she's not any game ship really

[knotty jolt]

I mean if you can get her you're likely past early

[ocean terrace]

then what's the point of her 😭

[viscid swift]

she's just a stat stick for hard mode if you need it early game, nothing more

[ocean terrace]

oh stat stick for TRP?

[olive geyser]

who's a good AA ship?

[ivory sigil]

... i just want to test the permanent pull, why did it SR immediate? did i just waste a pity? 😢

[ocean terrace]

what... pity is only for UR

[soft raft]

^

[knotty jolt]

her purpose is a starter ship for JP

[viscid swift]

there's no pity for anything outside of URs

[ocean terrace]

fair enough

[reef bane]

will my pity reset

[soft raft]

There is no 50/50 (for the non perma URs) either
when you roll a UR, it's gonna be that UR

[ivory sigil]

for starter or for endgame?

[ivory sigil]

i realized even N rarity had TRP stat higher than Rare and Elite 💀 bruh

[atomic abyss]

San Diego

[olive geyser]

late game

[atomic abyss]

San Diego (retrofit)

[ocean terrace]

also I'm pretty sure your pity won't reset even if you pull a UR (someone correct me if I'm wrong)

[reef bane]

i pulled vanguard today and im still at 296 pity

[soft raft]

San Diego (Retro)
Guam
Laffey II
Gouden (iirc)
That Dutch CL Elf
Z52
iirc Eldridge Retro also has pretty good AA

And if you're really poor, Cheshire is essentially a weaker Guam but she prob wont really be good for W15

[viscid swift]

Trafalgar

[olive geyser]

got it. thanks

[hollow gust]

why tf you pulling standard banner with UR coming in like a month

[reef bane]

bro im sowwy 😭

idek that UR banner is coming

[noble pawn]

mistakes happen

[hollow gust]

standard banners suck, never pull on it

[ocean terrace]

296 pity? holy

pretty sure all my pity is from pulling for DAL ships

[hollow gust]

more likely then not just 296 points which is 1:1 for cube spent

[ivory sigil]

shiranui is the highest N one for trp despite doing nothing beside shopkeeper

like almost equal to ayanami and yuudachi meta

i havent lv60 for operationSiren yet so idk anything about yuudachi meta, did she gonna go away if the event end ?

[rain vine]

she will eventually be added to dossier

[knotty jolt]

All meta fights get added to the dossier after they're over after awhile

forget how long till they're added tho

[soft raft]

roughly like a year

[spice phoenix]

how good is shimanto in later content? (i need an aa-specialist that’s not sandy, guam, or laff2 for w13 hard)

[rain bobcat]

one of the best

[ivory sigil]

so....

does higher chapter give better core data?

[spice phoenix]

thanks

[atomic abyss]

Yes

[ocean terrace]

could someone send a guide for gear lab

[onyx flame]

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/gear-lab/

[ocean terrace]

so I need the gear blueprint of a gear to be able to craft it in the gear lab correct?

[soft raft]

You grind various materials in Operation Siren to make gear lab stuff

[wind hazel]

some yes, or the crafted gear

[ocean terrace]

yeah but to see it in the gear lab in the first place

[soft raft]

Just go into gear lab

[wind hazel]

can be in blueprints or finished gear, add materials, and coin, and you get a new gear

[ocean terrace]

but for example I don't have this UR print but it shows here

[wind hazel]

click it

[soft raft]

You can see all avaliable gear lab items from the very start

[wind hazel]

you'll see all the required materials needed if you click on it

[ocean terrace]

oh I didn't realise the factions are on the left LMAO, sorry about that

wondered why I couldn't find all the gear from the link

[void turtle]

I also have questions for the gear lab... Do you build the item starting from the left most item then building it up?

[stray crane]

do you need the weapon to craft it ?

[ocean terrace]

you need the one before, you see where it says 'select', it'll be the one that's before it in the gear tree + materials

[onyx flame]

you can start from the most bottom or look for the most accessible option that appears in the middle of the tree, it depends really

[ocean terrace]

it's just a way to upgrade gear you already have

[onyx flame]

like for example if you wanted to craft z46 gun, you could craft from the bottom of the tree or just get a twin 128 skc from t3/t4 IB box

[ivory pawn]

If you don't have the requisite gear but can craft up to it, you can quickly craft up to the requisite gear by clicking on the wrench next to the requisite gear.

[void turtle]

mmhmm.... so I should open all my chests and see what I can upgrade

[onyx flame]

open only when you need to craft stuff that you know the bases drops from boxes

[rapid shard]

On craft what you need. Some materials like electronics and design plans will run out very very fast starting out.

[crystal bloom]

I feel very dumb for asking this, but what is actually the sortie requirements for this coalition battle? I see the CL has the Attack icon and others don't but I don't know what that actually means.

[rapid shard]

Have to have 1 main and 1 vanguard for all 4 fleets at minimum

[viscid swift]

did you fill out all four fleets

[crystal bloom]

.....ah!

right I forget those are tabs to different setups

[haughty skiff]

would love to know if there's any data on +10 meckgun vs +13 champ / soyuz gun

[stark quiver]

its worse

[viscid swift]

I mean what data would you need, it's a pretty straightforward numbers comparrison

[haughty skiff]

valid, i just didnt know the numbers

figured it was worse without +13 but i wanted to double check

[viscid swift]

the wiki and larsdb are your friends

[stark quiver]

wiki not my friend
no access

[ocean terrace]

I'm looking at both these sources here and I assume I should be getting either the BB gun or the Proto Tenrai, which should I work towards buying the recommended quantity of?

I currently have 850 protocores so I could buy out all the BB gun ones that I'd need however the tenrai is the best in its category

[onyx flame]

BB gun first since you can only buy 20 bps for each season per week

you might need to buy less for flandre gun if you grab some from reaseach for season 6, so that you have to check

[ocean terrace]

which of the 3?

[onyx flame]

anyway easy to read one

[ocean terrace]

oh ty

so either gun is fine

[onyx flame]

yea either champy/flandre is fine, just have 3 total

[ocean terrace]

would those be in depot -> item

[onyx flame]

it be under craft actually

[ocean terrace]

don't have either of those

[soft raft]

Flandre gun isnt in gear lab (yet)
And it's cheaper to get Champy gun from protocore shop instead of gear lab

[ocean terrace]

so Flandre gun it is, thank you

oh wait I read that wrong

[onyx flame]

you get both flandre and champy at the same time cause you want 3 total and you can only buy 20 sr bps for each season a month

[ocean terrace]

oh for each, got it ty

[onyx flame]

champy is the 406/50 while flandre is the 380 mle 1935 btw, it take like 3 months to get 3 guns

[ocean terrace]

takes a while to find them since you have to look at what guns the blueprints give

[onyx flame]

just look for season 3 and 6

[ocean terrace]

I have left over protocores though, should I use the rest on Proto Tenrai?

[onyx flame]

imo if you cant buy all 50 bps of tenrai then dont

[ocean terrace]

ah because I only need 1 anyway, might as well buy it in one go

[ivory sigil]

ok i got like 900 protocoin

[ivory sigil]

so i need 4k125 protocoin at least ?????

[fiery pelican]

How to unlock lvl 6 on event?

[rapid grail]

maint today?

[onyx flame]

do each sector once at least iirc

[stark quiver]

i guess so
but nobody is telling you to get it al in one go and you def will take a long time for that
priorities may change too

[ocean terrace]

the Proto Tenrai is the one that costs a lot, you'll be able to get the BB guns easily, and soon since monthly reset is in 5 days

[ivory sigil]

why reset is necessary? is there something i need to buy?

[past bear]

Just do the monthly Sr ones, tenrai won't reset anyway

[ocean terrace]

get the 2 BB guns

[soft raft]

There's a purchase limit for the items in Protocore shop
Every monthly refresh, all the gear besides the UR ones have their purchase limit reset

[ivory pawn]

You can buy up to 20 prints for each series for gold gear per month. You need 25 prints to craft a gold gear.

[ocean terrace]

you want series 3 and series 6 blueprints, all of them

[soft raft]

Series 6? What

[regal dock]

Is a fleet consist of date a live Collab good ?

[soft raft]

Oh wait that's Flandre gun

[ocean terrace]

flandre gun and champy

[viscid swift]

fleet you mean? depends on what your definition of good is and for what content

[past bear]

Good enough to clear most stages

[regal dock]

General content as a second fleet

[soft raft]

Good for what content?
Cuz that definetly wont be doing endgame level stuff

[viscid swift]

that also describes like 99% of fleets

[soft raft]

"General Content" is not really a thing

[viscid swift]

what is general content because when you say general my first though is all content

[regal dock]

Let say. Story mode and event in the future

[ivory sigil]

i need to buy series 3 and 6 ? like each 20 of them immediate?

[past bear]

Good until map 12 I guess

[viscid swift]

events are piss easy, not worth using maxed ships on

[ocean terrace]

yes

[soft raft]

Where exactly in campaign?

[regal dock]

I'm currently on chapter 6

[soft raft]

Dont even fucking think about raising a 2nd fleet right now then
Much less one consisting entirely of SRs

[viscid swift]

well you wouldn't be able to afford a full DAL fleet then because of how many gold bullins that woud require

[soft raft]

You are legit too broke right now to consider raising more than 6 ships and that's at best with 1-2 SRs in the mix

[ivory sigil]

well i can relate that it took me 7 days to finally max out at least 4 member of DAL fleet

[stark quiver]

[viscid swift]

it took me a bit to get all the bullins together and that's with a large stockpile of merits and min maxing all teh dupes we could get without pulling

[ivory sigil]

newplayer they give like 8-10 SR bulin

[past bear]

This event is one of a kind with all Sr rarity...

[sweet delta]

i am once again asking you to use pictures instead of videos

[viscid swift]

yeah and a full DAL fleet can use up to 24

[ocean terrace]

I mean do you really need to mlb all of them anyway? some of them aren't necessary for new players since you have Unicorn and Helena that are basically necessary

[viscid swift]

they asked about a full DAL fleet

[regal dock]

So one fleet is enough ? Mine right now is consist of alsce, Howe, luzlow. Unzen, prinz Heinrich. And brenus. And having a trouble clearing last event stage

[ivory sigil]

so yeah even if i spend on tohka and kotori and each 1 for other 5 member, i can still had abit SR bulin in stock for like 2 or 4

[past bear]

Free 3 Kurumi and 3 Yoshino if you do grind the event tho

[stark quiver]

why is helena neccessary

[viscid swift]

I'm gonna take a wild guess and say that ALsace adn Unzen are not max limit break

[ocean terrace]

the buff no? or debuff however you see it

[regal dock]

4 star currently and same as unzen

[soft raft]

Cursed as hell

[viscid swift]

wich means they're pretty shit then

[soft raft]

Yet another one falls victim to the pitfall of partially investing in multiple URs at once

[stark quiver]

her buff doesnt require mlb to begin with and the tank is more important to mlb

[regal dock]

So I'll have to replace em ? The other ship is MLB though

[soft raft]

My man you need to go read this guide ASAP
https://www.azurlaneecgc.com/newbie_tips/

[viscid swift]

0/10 for not using Unicorn, negative points for using 0 limit break URs

[stark quiver]

yeah i relate, i only mlb my URs and dont 125 + oath
partial gaming

[ivory sigil]

hmmm i did resize the video to lowest resolution to avoid data overconsumption, it was still unloadable? hmm guess i will stick with 3 4 pic for now

[ocean terrace]

but that's what I'm saying, the event has 3 tanks/tanky ships in Tohka, twins and Kurumi, but you don't need to invest in all of them when you can easily mlb Helena and use her
also Yoshino doesn't replace Unicorn

[viscid swift]

and even more negative points for highly questionable uses of gold bullins

[past bear]

Go buy the ur bulin if you can

[regal dock]

I can't help it. Alsace design is quite, based

[viscid swift]

replace Alsace with Unicorn and Unzen with Helena

[stark quiver]

i think i misunderstood you then

[sweet delta]

data is only 1 downside

1. much more data
2. have to waste time watching or seeking to different parts
3. have to watch the whole thing to understand how many scenes there are
4. can take a long time to load
5. no clue if there will be hentai at the end

[viscid swift]

and give them actual gear
https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide/

[past bear]

I view the twins more of a crowd control dps. Or are they tanks enough to be called a tank?

[viscid swift]

what

[sweet delta]

and you don't have to show every choice, good players already know what the choices in the shops are

[regal dock]

I usually just slap them with what I have. This game a bit more complex than I think

[stray crane]

kurumi is basically free all u need is one sr bulin

[viscid swift]

I literally saw someone earlier today who MLBed their Kurumi before getting all 3 dupes

I know this because they had 3 dupes in addition to a MLB Kurumi

[stark quiver]

are they an elper

[ocean terrace]

impatience at its finest

[past bear]

Probably a kurumi simp who wants to MLB all kurumi dupes

[onyx flame]

fleet power trust

[viscid swift]

nope, very clearly a new player

[ivory sigil]

In order to clear the last event stage (section 6) you might need to have a fleet that is between lv60-lv70

I also a person who just start Azurlane acc 7 days ago
You can take a look at this to take example of mine to how to progress:
#gameplay-help message <- this will show the step i did in 7 days straight

[past bear]

I would've done the same if she has some kind of clone crossfleet

[ocean terrace]

pretty sure they're similarly tanky as Kurumi and Tohka

[ivory sigil]

thank you, i able to buy 2 BB gun and have 300 left

should i spend the rest the tenrai plane? or buy the series 4 for gearlab plane?

[stray crane]

awaken or no ?

[rain bobcat]

not rn

[ivory sigil]

eh i already awaken kotori and laffey... is that a badchoice?

[stray crane]

how about helena ?

[ocean terrace]

save your protocores, buy proto tenrai when you can buy all 50 at once

[viscid swift]

Yes

[stray crane]

both of them ?

[viscid swift]

Yes

You're gonna be pushing after all

[ocean terrace]

if you're using them in your main fleet it's not a bad thing

[ivory sigil]

why it is the 1st bb gun recommend to have 2?

[ocean terrace]

because you might have 3 BBs? it's an assumption

they state you can get 2x of the other BB gun if you want, I guess it doesn't matter too much

[onyx flame]

you need 3 ap bb guns, which combination doesnt matter since champy and flandre gun are so similar

[uneven knot]

hey guys i fin roon, avp, fdg, anchorage, and agir who should i research next?

[ivory sigil]

why i cant find le hardi banner on wiki

[onyx flame]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Secrets_of_the_Abyss

[ocean terrace]

those skins are...

[atomic abyss]

Plymouth

[west steeple]

do I need to do Coalition to finish a mission on stages?

[onyx flame]

no either mode works, coalition just gives a bit more reward at the end in exchange for needing a bit more ships to complete

[west steeple]

do I need to do easy and hard mode difficulty? cause I tried manual on 6th stage but it still didn't finish the mission.

[onyx flame]

which mission?

[west steeple]

This one

[onyx flame]

you need to check your mission tab, the original one was already given out to those who participated before the sector hit 0% and it got converted into an event mission now

iirc its earn X amount of points or something

[west steeple]

ohh, thanks

[ocean terrace]

for D research in the academy, I should only do it if the blueprint is for the ship I'm currently trying to develop correct? or should I do it regardless

[onyx flame]

i only do it for DR rarity for season 8 and specific for meck only

[ocean terrace]

does that apply to a new player

[rain bobcat]

prs are worthless this time

[onyx flame]

well you can grab gouden if you want too but for season 8 the DR are the cream

the pr are kinda mmm, unless you like em i suppose

[ocean terrace]

also should I be doing any research in the first place? they require a lot of resources

[ivory pawn]

Even if you have to choose free researches because you can't afford anything else, try to keep the researches going.

[past bear]

Just do Q research for gears

[ivory pawn]

Q/Rigging is one of the best, just costs 20 gear plates.

[ocean terrace]

I have been, but I'm starting to notice how much it eats at my coins

[past bear]

Dont sleep on gold and rainbow face research tho

[onyx flame]

i will sleep on gold face

[ivory pawn]

Same.

[ocean terrace]

my focus is on PR8 so I'll avoid the golds since they said the PRs aren't great

[onyx flame]

but if your new, Q, E or even C is fine to grab

[versed forum]

should i +13 my 2 Black Shell or HPFCR? have 600 goldplates and can't wait for admiralty

[past bear]

Meck aint great!? Who sait that

[onyx flame]

+13 white first i think

[ocean terrace]

not DR, PR

[past bear]

Ohh i thought u talking about gold research

[versed forum]

already done same with catapults

[ivory sigil]

Yeah i realize im so late to such banner

I was catch up to PR6 frandre but suddenly realize i dont have the ally for grind exp

[ocean terrace]

if there was a certain ship I wanted from research though from PR7, is it fine to focus for that ship? or is PR8 just objectively better

[ivory sigil]

I dont have anyone from sakura empire either
You guys were right i should ignore the ship thingy in PR

Maybe focus in gear??????

[onyx flame]

prob 1 hpfcr and save the rest, unless you really must squeeze out more dmg

[rain bobcat]

then wait until u do

flandre is dog and felix has much less impact compared to shimanto

[tidal dust]

Couple questions, is there a way to have the game play even while i pull up another app, instead of pausing, and second, do ships still “earn” xp at max level for purposes of ship development?

[past bear]

You focus on latest research bcuz previous season will have a catchup or the gears can be bought on shop

[ocean terrace]

damn I wanted Admiral Nakhimov but I guess that will have to wait a long time

[ivory sigil]

Lol

[knotty jolt]

only way to have the game run while doing something else is if the phone itself is capable of such

[onyx flame]

if your on the phone, no not really
yes

[ivory pawn]

I'm personally of the opinion that right now is a decent time to focus on 7 specifically for Nakhimov and maybe one LA-9.

[knotty jolt]

For example my redmagic phone can open up other apps and tabs etc while ingame

[ivory pawn]

If you start now, you should have Nakhimov close to if not already dev30 right when Soyuz reruns.

[knotty jolt]

Also yes ships still "give xp" for PR even at max

[ivory sigil]

Errrrr i play az on pc emulator so.......

Alt tab?

[ocean terrace]

that sounds... perfect. I wanted that Nakhimov Soyuz duo when I first saw them over any other UR ships

[ivory sigil]

I know android support splitscreen

But does az allow split?

[ocean terrace]

although I think this would take me a while

[rain bobcat]

yes

[ivory pawn]

Eh, once you got the tech points you can theoretically obtain the ship herself in a week. It'll probably take a little longer, but whatever. The real time sink is in the blueprints to get her to dev30, which will take months.

[ocean terrace]

I have yet to actually develop a ship yet so I'm unsure of how it works in detail, but if you say it's possible then why not right

I'm just worried PR8 is objectively a better option because of Mecklenburg, I've heard a lot of great things about her

[rain bobcat]

objectively better definitely

u can get the ship quite easily for collection but the mlb will take minimum 6 months

and before that they're generally useless

an mlb oath mecklenburg at dev 25 hits barely harder than vanguard

and vanguard has pitiful damage to begin with

[little tree]

When does collaboration event end

[ivory pawn]

Bit over a week.

[ocean terrace]

but if you take into consideration that I'll have her at dev30 by Soyuz rerun, is it still better to go for Mecklenburg?

[ivory sigil]

6 days iirc

[ivory pawn]

Literally a week + 1 hour. Or 2-3 hours, I forget exactly.

[past bear]

1hr and 2min

[rain bobcat]

technically equal

but gouden>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>napoli

so pr8 is still automatically better

[ocean terrace]

hmmmmmm

I assume that means I could unlock multiple ships from that PR over time?

[rain bobcat]

research is rng

its not like you will only get meck prints if you "focus meck"

by the time you have a DR dev 30, the other one is probably around dev 28

[onyx flame]

my meck is 29 but my gouden is 22 but thats also cause i threw blanks at meck

[ocean terrace]

isn't that because you're doing lots of G researches? over face ones

[rain bobcat]

napoli tanks. gouden has infinitely better AA and also has more dmg, no brainer

[rain bobcat]

no I never do G's unless there's literally no option lol

[ocean terrace]

then why is the blueprint so widespread across ships in the PR?

[rain bobcat]

because rng....

[ivory pawn]

I'd do Gs over Face if I don't care about the Face.

[ocean terrace]

oh you research every face one you can then?

[viscid swift]

Because there's 5 ships worth of researches in the rotation

[ocean terrace]

right right I get it

[rain bobcat]

if there's no meck face and there's a gouden face you will pick gouden face

[ocean terrace]

yeah makes sense

[rain bobcat]

I dont care about anyone other than the 2 DR's either

the PRs are just a bother

[ocean terrace]

so Napoli is much more of a pure tanker whilst Gouden is a mix + great AA

[rain bobcat]

there is a cutoff point for amount of tanking you actually need

technically everyone above 130% can tank almost everything in the game

[ocean terrace]

hence why Agir got powercrept? I guess she still offers armour break

[viscid swift]

Well to be more accurate Eldridge retrofit exists

[rain bobcat]

even plymouth can tank all over opsi and META and she isn't even that fat

[ocean terrace]

right I get it now

[rain bobcat]

ply is like 115%

[viscid swift]

More like we forced her to because we needed as much damage as possible

And she didn't die every time

[rain bobcat]

she still didn't die in most attempts, technically counts as tanking

[ocean terrace]

so PR8 is better to focus on not only because of Meck but Gouden too

as opposed to Nakhimov and Napoli

[viscid swift]

Pr8 is better to focus because Soyuz isn't permanent

Among other things

[rain bobcat]

u will get them within a month of dev 30'ing each other if you don't use all ur blanks on one person

[ocean terrace]

Zenima's point was that if I start PR7 now, I will have her at dev30 by the time she reruns

[rain bobcat]

gouden is more useful for w15, even more so than guam

[viscid swift]

I think it's a wash either way

[rain bobcat]

it's still equal terms

[ocean terrace]

also isn't Guam coming early next year?

[rain bobcat]

nakhimov hits just about as hard as meck but needs more plates

[viscid swift]

Like, neither is useful for the current meta showdowns

[ivory pawn]

Jan, probably.

[viscid swift]

Neither is that notable for campaign performance

[ocean terrace]

you're referring to Soyuz and Nakhimov right

[viscid swift]

I mean Nahkimov and Mecklenburg

[ocean terrace]

shame, I loved their designs but if it's not worth it then

[viscid swift]

I mean it's worth both

[rain bobcat]

[viscid swift]

I just don't there's a strong argument either way to prioritize one over the other

[whole crypt]

the real answer is just pick ue newest one and burn through it efficiently

[rain bobcat]

my incentive to saying pr8 is better is because I don't think I've ever even used napoli or felt the need to, and nakhimov is more expensive than meck

[viscid swift]

Oh yeah Pr7 catchup is due in about 2 months

[ocean terrace]

so PR8 is just safer then

[ivory pawn]

150 prints ain't nowhere near enough to dev30 a DR.

[viscid swift]

And I can get La9 number 6 then

[ocean terrace]

because Nakhimov relies on Soyuz while Mecklenburg doesn't + the other DR ship is better in PR8

[viscid swift]

No but it'll shave off about a month

[rain bobcat]

im a pleb at 4

[viscid swift]

Well I'm technically at 49/50 for number 5

[rain bobcat]

I have 7/8 plyguns though or smth

[viscid swift]

I'm only at like 5

Or 6

[rain bobcat]

prob gonna be on the gear lab soon though so it won't matter anymore

[viscid swift]

Yeah, give it a month

If that

[stray crane]

i dont have a single clue what u guys talking about

[ocean terrace]

PR/DR gear

[ivory pawn]

They're flexing being dinosaurs.

[viscid swift]

Well I might still do some Pr5 research because I don't need more La9s and I don't need more than 3 Mecklenburg guns

[rain bobcat]

im below 20k protocore now from buying almost all season gear every month

[ocean terrace]

I'm sorry but I'm still stuck between PR7 and PR8 purely because I really like both Nakhimov and Soyuz's designs, could you just clarify if PR8 is significantly better to focus, because if the difference isn't significant then I don't mind slightly losing out for PR7.

but if PR8 is just that much better I'll go for it

[viscid swift]

It's a wash as I said

[ocean terrace]

meaning? not familiar with that term apologies

[viscid swift]

The pr research focus guide lays out everything for you

[stray crane]

so go for 7 or 8 ?

[viscid swift]

a situation is neutral, with no real gain or loss, or that two sides are equal.

[summer prism]

why not just go for whoever u like lol

[viscid swift]

I would be partial to 8 purely because then you could take full advantage of catchup for 7

[ocean terrace]

because I have fear of missing out, if PR8 is objectively just better and would give me an advantage, I want it, even if I prefer the PR7 ships

[whole crypt]

you can do what you want but the "best" way is max efficiency on newest series then work backwards with spare time plus catchup

[rain bobcat]

^

[ocean terrace]

if PR7 was to be available for catchup atm, would it change the priority of PR/DR ships? as of now I understand that FDG, Agir and Anchorage are the newer players' focus for catchup

[viscid swift]

Well no because you can't coin them

[ocean terrace]

so the newer PR/DRs are more expensive to develop?

[viscid swift]

Plymouth will be getting coining though which will make things interesting

[ocean terrace]

coining I assume means developing through coins than blueprints

[viscid swift]

Yes

[viscid swift]

Mainly slower

Because they don't have coining because it's a catchup mechanic

[ocean terrace]

but they're also better if I understood correctly, would it not be worth the while?

[whole crypt]

once you're caught up they all take basically the same time without any catchup mechanics

[viscid swift]

They are because they're newer

[ocean terrace]

so if I had 150 catchup prints of PR1 it would take the same as a PR6 ship with 150 catchup prints?

[stray crane]

DR ship have the coin thing too ?

[viscid swift]

Some of them yes

[rain bobcat]

upto season 4

s5 coming early next year

[viscid swift]

And Shimanto, fun stuff

[whole crypt]

the requirements are effectively the same regardless of series

it's just older series have catchup and coin enhance

[ocean terrace]

right I see

[cobalt gate]

So next week we get pr ship updates?

[viscid swift]

No

[ocean terrace]

so PR8 is just better to focus since PR7 will have catchup in 2 months

[viscid swift]

This isn't until January/February

[viscid swift]

From that perspective yes

[ocean terrace]

well I can delay Nakhimov and Soyuz then if that's the case, thank you for all that explaining

[whole crypt]

I'm using bis/meck/lion now who would be the optimal vanguards

for lazy arbing

[onyx flame]

would it be the usual z52/traf/plymouth

[viscid swift]

Eldridge not z52

[whole crypt]

would Unzen bring enough damage to replace anyone, also if no one is dying does Eld bring anything besides slow

[viscid swift]

No

[rapid summit]

Can I have the exp/coin/oil spreadsheet for each chapter in the story?

[sweet delta]

https://suchiguma.github.io/deepresearch/auto-search-exp-and-coins/

[desert tapir]

Does anyone have the link to the prior meta fight advice dock? I don't see it in pinned.

[slow fox]

W-15 boss noAA

[cobalt rapids]

prior ? kawakaze ?
idk why u need fleets to an unavailable meta but here u go
#gameplay-help message

[rain bobcat]

[halcyon nymph]

Hello. Just wanna ask. Do I still need this dupe if I already maxed out this character? Or can I use her on enhancement?

[onyx flame]

retire it for medals

only use commons for enhancements

[halcyon nymph]

Ohh for medals. I see. Okay, thank you. Glad I asked first.

[reef bane]

what’s good in the medal shop? should i buy SRs

[onyx flame]

if your new
Medal shop ship hull priority

BB-Alabama, the rest for faction tech
CV- Enterprise, the rest for faction tech
CA- no priority, only for faction tech
CL- San Diego, Sirius, the rest for faction tech
DD- Kazagumo, the rest for faction tech
SS- U-96

[halcyon nymph]

They said San Diego is good.

[onyx flame]

there also sr bulins and spec cores to buy from medal shops

[reef bane]

ohh cool

[halcyon nymph]

I'll take a screenshot of this.

[halcyon nymph]

SS - U-96 is a submarine, right?

I think I'll be getting her first. I don't have any aside from the free one.

[onyx flame]

yea if your new you can technically skip her

[halcyon nymph]

Oof.

[onyx flame]

cause you wont be using subs for a long time

[halcyon nymph]

But there is a daily where I need to use a submarine iirc.

[onyx flame]

yea the free sub you got can clear the lvl 65 one easily

anything above that need even more investment that a new player can spare

[wind hazel]

just use i-58, farm lv65 daily raid

[halcyon nymph]

So... who do you recommend to get first on the medal shop for SR ship?

[onyx flame]

https://youtu.be/cxC2Iy4XVfE?si=_ECJR5jM9-REAoWo

[halcyon nymph]

Thank you. I'll be watching this.

[onyx flame]

oh new suchi vid

[ocean terrace]

5 minutes ago loool

[wind hazel]

mommy

[onyx flame]

oumi synergy say less

[noble pawn]

This guides really help me few months ago

[stark quiver]

Why’s oumi so hyped

[wind hazel]

propaganda

[stark quiver]

[cobalt rapids]

gold bb beat rainbow

[onyx flame]

cause i aint got no ur bbs

[noble pawn]

U-96 good?

[eternal basalt]

Atago 2.0

[wind hazel]

decent, it's the only sub from medal shop, nothing else to buy

[atomic vortex]

Free NJ or free Floof

Already have both

[whole crypt]

just hold on to the invite

or if you have (almost) everything just grab either, they're just medals at this point

[sweet delta]

Why did devs exclude chapter 8 and below from auto search ammo nodes pickup?

[cobalt rapids]

to encourage the players to push to oilcap

[wind hazel]

isnt it because it's 4 battle before boss spawn

[sweet delta]

new players will definitely know that auto search chooses ammo in 9-4

[stark quiver]

New players will definitely know anything about the game

[wind hazel]

also ren is your site still getting update?

[sweet delta]

But you see my plentiful ammo bonus needs 4+ ammo

[cobalt rapids]

yes ill update my stuff this week(end)

[ivory sigil]

put 6 in dorm... iirc she would appear as 2 character instead pair, end up seeing 12 instead

[ivory sigil]

i hope i got enough resource to reach that (before the UR update ofcourse)

[scarlet cosmos]

If i am out of oil is best way to get it back is to touch grass and do commissions

[rain bobcat]

spending 120 gems is certainly an option

[ivory sigil]

me as a newbie: "how did you guys even ran out of oil?"
my friend who play 2 acc at once: "amateur"

btw i manage to get only 2 yamai sister after got like 38k score in event, is that unlucky? overall i would still push toward 60k pts for her.

Seriously does 100k doable for a newbie? or i had to use gems on it???

-# This remind me of that typical game that giving event require gem to refresh on energy just to grind for max score and max reward.. iirc they are somesort of "awakenstone for those maxLMBawaken etc to make them become altver power"
yeah all i see 100k score is some rainbowbox that disappoint me daybyday, guess i will ask for Event shop prioritylist

[wind hazel]

seems about average. some didn't get the drop at all until 55k

also getting 100k is pointless, really really pointless

[pine whale]

I haven't asked about that, to be fair. When I'm stopping with Kurumi, optimally?

[ocean terrace]

if you plan to mlb her, get all her copies (4k points)

[pine whale]

4k. Will try to remember

I'm half notes atm. Couldn't farm harder yesterday

Thank you

[ocean terrace]

with all her copies, you only need 1 gold bulin to mlb her

[pine whale]

Which I "had to" use it because of powerscaling. Back then (that is one week ago), she was almost always MVP. Currently it's Penn. Got lucky, what can I say

[ocean terrace]

doesn't really matter at which lb you use it, you'll need to use 1 anyway

[pine whale]

Currently it's the max possible with a single Gold Bulin without permanent, so it's gotta be 4 stars

[ocean terrace]

I still get notes for using her in my main fleet lol

[pine whale]

Now that's a HyperMut moment. I first need her Perm to put in Dorm

[ivory sigil]

bro how much oil did u spend recently lmao
to the fact of reaching 10k notes
i already ranout of newbie oil till today
been wasting it alot on Hardmode, which doesnt give a single note🎶

[knotty jolt]

not that far off my own

[hollow gust]

[pine whale]

I think what matters is purely the cost/regen ratio applied to how reliant you are on Kurumi

And given we're talking about a hypothetical 7/8 out of 10 in terms of brokenness, especially for a beginner, factoring Skills, I'd say it's not difficult once you play around with Dorm and the best leveled up Skills she has

Personally, I've got Unicorn and Penn. But whenever I need to, idk, switch her for Portland, well yes, the difference can be felt

[ocean terrace]

always bigger fish in the sea

[pine whale]

Time Eating Castle is seriously busted to a beginner

[wind hazel]

just play the game. you'll get all 4 copies by next wednesday

[hollow gust]

What cost eff, you only need 4k and there is still another week of the event. Once you hit 55k it’s time to gtfo

[pine whale]

No, I mean in the making. She's a powerful drug. Beyond that, might as well keep on using her until you got something better. Which is pretty unlikely for a good portion ('course I'm speaking from a f2p new account perspective, starting with the event (actually one day before), here).

[ocean terrace]

I prefer Tohka to be honest, she's a little tankier and deals more damage than Kurumi every time

[pine whale]

That I think it's undeniable. But, AND, if you don't have Tohka, woo boi

(nor Origami)

[pine whale]

• Kamikaze ships, submarines, time needed for Reload, time needed for Penn to send the nukes, compensating for early game/unleveled Skill/Reload times.
• Kurumi takes it all and gives you so much time she can slap a patch.
• Until I comfortably can hit Section 2's level 50, yes, for Event Section 1, this works
• (I have to level a lot of stuff)
• (I don't have recording with me. I would otherwise)
• (I'm sending my oil reserve, dock, progress bar, and formation later)

[wind hazel]

[ivory sigil]

same 🤝
I was in a craze state of only have enough mats for choosing 1, yet wonder which Augment +10 first

Tohka vs Kurumi , both good for backline,
1 give offense over cost of defense, so if enemy weak they wont trigger
1 give infinite survival, seeming good but i dont have much issue with surviving nor it would solve the Anti-air problem
I end up choosing Kotori... she is fully 🔥 offense. Strong offense is best way to defence -suntzu-

but the problem still there........ Tohka vs kurumi. Kurumi said being good in W14, that's giving a plus then

[pine whale]

• You thought I was just going to act sloppily with all the info you gave me? And I have yet to level gear, equip, and disassemble. From yesterday!
• I do not control the probability at which Origami or Tohka decide to respond to my daily cubes (1 build per day). IF they respond to me.
• By Campaign 3.5, Kurumi is no longer able to win alone. That's where you start to kick Unicorn and Penn to maximum potency. And if you never lose (I don't), you eventually start to spread leveling with farming

[ocean terrace]

this shit is fun to read

[pine whale]

Told you I'm a beginner. Ofc I know little

[ocean terrace]

nono I meant entertaining, don't worry I'm a beginner too

[ivory sigil]

i had already summary it in #gameplay-help message so no necessary to repeat

[pine whale]

I do my best

[sharp socket]

what is this guy cooking

[ocean terrace]

LMAO shhhh, let him do his thing

[pine whale]

Dormitory abuse

[sharp socket]

i think you're overthinking a little too much about the game

[pine whale]

Time isn't on my side. Only for this event. Then long sleep time

[ivory sigil]

Anyway, i still good luck you to obtain good SR in future

[pine whale]

Thank you

[sharp socket]

at a part of the game where thinking is not required very much

[hollow gust]

Early game is over leveling your base fleet, the game is not hard

[ocean terrace]

they're new players, let them have their fun

[pine whale]

I'm not around for next event. And in between

[hollow gust]

The more shit your add into your fleet the worst it gets

[pine whale]

Well yes about oil, I know. But it helps with avoiding Annihilation. Purely because of Oil and Morale. I'm minmaxing so hard. My coins are still growing

[hollow gust]

No? Replacing ships means wasting exp, which is the one of the most valuable resource you have

[pine whale]

I don't replace ships. I only replace Kurumi until Perm, purely because of slow time to regen Morale for exp. I did waste a bit for "Team B" before you taught me about focusing on one fleet

[sharp socket]

minmaxing when you have very little to minmax

[pine whale]

Yes. Everything.

That means, my current imaginary fleet is 6+1

[sharp socket]

the best times of fleet building is in w12 first clear up to 14-4

[ocean terrace]

hey look some people find enjoyment through different ways, if these guys wanna 'minmax' and think through all this stuff and find it fulfulling, no harm letting them do that

[pine whale]

Rn I can make Section 1's second boss get executed before they notice they should use chain move. That speeds up my farming

[sharp socket]

cooking opsi boss fleets is also a very fun time when you don't have 4 rows of UR

i have no idea what you're cooking personally ill just click auto and leave it there for 10 minutes

[pine whale]

And if what Celerio said here is true about OPSI, it's the only OPSI I played, ever, the event.

[hollow gust]

If you have 4 rows of UR , your opsi fleet doodoo

[sharp socket]

if it doesn't fail it works

[pine whale]

Currently my X-4 is Safe, and my Event Section 1 is...idk. Low, maybe.

[sharp socket]

is he just here to play DAL event and then quit forever, if so sure you can do whatever you like but gph isnt a place to blog

[pine whale]

I'm not here to blog. I was just asked. Thank you for your patience. Should have been out several hours ago

[ocean terrace]

he does it quite often but no one's really called him out on it yet, I'm sure they will if it gets excessive

[pine whale]

No, I just write a lot and with precision. I'm not here to blog

[ocean terrace]

if you have a thread on this channel though, I recommend you use that or make one if you don't have one yet

[sharp socket]

i find it getting excessive watching somebody overcomplicating the game while being new and also adding prose on top of it in the gph channel

[atomic abyss]

[knotty jolt]

uh oh mod

I'ma just slide on out of here

[atomic abyss]

Okay, good
Then please dont actually blog

[pine whale]

I go case by case on threads. Those above are recaps. I also edit frequently to avoid cluttering

[atomic abyss]

Still not the right place for it

[pine whale]

Alright. Will do (got the ping only now)

[ivory sigil]

after checking.... the gear research doesnt make sense to me
i dont get much the research thingy

Since i've been choosing VIII research
Do i need to change it into Research3 or 6 or something, these gear doesnt appear in any guide or tierlist @ocean terrace

[ocean terrace]

^^^

[ocean terrace]

nono, the blueprints you got from the shop are different

[noble pawn]

Time is not on my side so true fr

[sharp socket]

what doesn't make sense about it

[pine whale]

"DAL Phantom" General Blog Thread

[ocean terrace]

earlier today he bought gear prints with protocores, he's confusing those with research gear
(series 3 and series 6 referring to champy and flandre guns)

[sharp socket]

ah ok so protocore is for gear prints from earlier seasons, dont change your research focus to get those

just wait for monthly reset to get your protocore shop refresh

[haughty skiff]

Protocore shop priority is for older series gear that isn't worth researching
Researching PR7 / PR8 is for due to the DRs + the UR Gear, neither of which you can purchase or craft for a long time

[noble pawn]

I would choose research season 4 cuz you can get tenrai copies

[ocean terrace]

the reactions 😭

if you're referring to proto tenrai, you can get them from the protocore shop

[sharp socket]

pr4 is all coinable, craftable and protocore, why would you focus pr4

[ocean terrace]

usually high prio in that shop after the BB guns

[hollow gust]

[noble pawn]

more tenrai copies, less protocore spent for expensive copies

[sharp socket]

pr7 or pr8 is the best choice for research focus

[haughty skiff]

don't do research for lower PRs, even moreso if you're a newbie

it's always ideal to focus on newer and work backwards

[noble pawn]

research focus

[sharp socket]

just craft/buy the older season gear

[haughty skiff]

you can only get one copy and there's more important gear that you cant craft in later series. you can craft the tenrai if you really need more

[hollow gust]

That’s dumb as fuck, it’s less work to craft tenrai then research for it. And you don’t waste time in a dead season

[ocean terrace]

just keep researching PR8 for research focus

in 4 days the protocore shop will reset, since you have 20 copies of series 3, buy 5 more when it's in stock, and for series 6, buy all 20

you're aiming for 3 BB guns total, each takes 25 prints

[hollow gust]

You don’t need 3, triple champog comp is extremely rare

[ocean terrace]

1 flandre 2 champy or vice versa

3 AP guns total

[sharp socket]

you do use 3 for early bb fleet stuff

[ocean terrace]

pretty sure it's 3 BB guns, then prototype tenrai for priority

[ocean terrace]

there it is, I was searching for that, ty

[rapid shard]

For curiosity do they move the oldest things from protoshop to gear lab when new stuff gets added? For example Ply gun when LA-9 gets added

[haughty skiff]

Yeah

[spark patio]

How many DR bps should i coin everyday? 10+ or 10-?

[rapid shard]

Any other top end gear expected to be added to gearlab/Protoshop when they update it next?

[muted wind]

not really any pattern to it besides when they add old PR gear

[rapid shard]

Use those breakdowns to decide

[noble pawn]

7.200 coins seems plausible cuz you're gonna bleed coins

[spark patio]

I thought the coins diff wont be much and buy 15 bps like what i usually buy for DR ships and it cost me 22k coins

[haughty skiff]

There's no pattern aside from the PR gear

[spark patio]

[real folio]

you can coin both a dr and pr in the same day as well. as in getting the free or discounted bps

[onyx flame]

I only buy 10 the steep cost past 10 is a lil much considering i got other things to spend on

[rapid shard]

Just comes down to how much your willing to spend and how fast you want to dev30 them. Personally I would recommend just doing the 10 a day. Way cheaper in long run

[spark patio]

alright, ty guys

[edgy iron]

UR bulin priority?

[knotty jolt]

How many bulins can you get atm?

[edgy iron]

Almost 4

@knotty jolt

[knotty jolt]

I'd wanna say zwei then save

cause we are getting a new UR this decemeber

[onyx flame]

wouldnt alsace be a better bb choice

[warm latch]

id say wait until we see what dec ur is before using any

[knotty jolt]

I didn't notice alsace

[onyx flame]

but yea can prob wait to see what dec ur is first before deciding

[knotty jolt]

I'm thinking i should start wearing my glasses when at my pc now..

btw i do notice atleast 2 bulins so they do have enough for a full lb then likely have enough for another by december UR drop maybe

[onyx flame]

well they would, but dec could also be double ur so

[knotty jolt]

doubt but maybe

[ivory sigil]

Any youtube video teaching newbie about this magical thing called d30???

[onyx flame]

Its just development 30 for shipyard ships

[ivory sigil]

I'm like 1-hour-old in this research thingy so

[ocean terrace]

basically you need PR/DR blueprints of a ship to 'develop' it

it's like limit breaking but with blueprints

ships from PR1-4 can be coined (some development can be done with coins) as they are older ones but in general you'll need all the blueprints to mlb the ship and make it useable

[onyx flame]

pr 1 -5, dr 1-4

[lofty harbor]

blue one?

how about purple?

[robust onyx]

Doesn't matter

[lofty harbor]

so gold okay?

[robust onyx]

Auto select

[lofty harbor]

aight thx

[knotty jolt]

doesnt it take like 3 gold exactly?

[robust onyx]

Something like that

[drowsy mirage]

Need little help here, can someone explain this plus I am new tho

[knotty jolt]

Is this a hardmode stage im guessing?

[robust onyx]

Nothing matches your search

Turn sort options to all across all fields

[knotty jolt]

They have nothing to sort, it's off already meaning this is a hardmode stage due to the deployment requirement below

[robust onyx]

Really interesting

[knotty jolt]

What hardmode stage are you doing?

[drowsy mirage]

Normal

[wind hazel]

what are you trying to do?

[drowsy mirage]

Just trying to enter the event

[wind hazel]

go back 1 page, show us what's there

im so confused

[knotty jolt]

im assuming you don't have enough ships for it or something?

[normal crane]

Any collab units that good to raise? Or just bench em for collection purpose?

[robust onyx]

Half are decent

[knotty jolt]

Most of them are actually good with tohka and kurumi being endgame viable

[sharp socket]

good for SRs

[normal crane]

Noted, thankies

[sharp socket]

serviceable for w14 maybe but not sure

[knotty jolt]

can ya press the back arrow and send a screenshot of what next immediately appears?

[normal crane]

I haven't clear w13 yet

[wind hazel]

so clear it

[sharp socket]

many things can be used in w13, this includes the collab ships

[normal crane]

Not sure if I'm able to clear it

[knotty jolt]

You'll be fine just spam breguts and sandy

[normal crane]

Who even is breguts

[potent needle]

Should I grind Event Stages or Campaign Ones for Kurumi?

[knotty jolt]

The french torpedo bomber

[robust onyx]

Torpedo bomber

[knotty jolt]

They can intercept like wyverns but are much cheaper

[robust onyx]

Event

[wind hazel]

if you havent reached your desired milestone rewards then event

[sinful relic]

whats the best way to earn coins early game?

[ivory sigil]

Same ratio

[knotty jolt]

That's the neat part you don't, you just book it to chapter 9+

[ivory sigil]

In early game you need to priortize on using all the overflow oil that were given for free

[sinful relic]

noted

[normal crane]

Can anyone help me to build w13 squad?

[ivory sigil]

Mind if you create a thread to post your team image?

[rapid shard]

Open a thread and post your dock

[knotty jolt]

create a thread and post your dock in there, someone'll come help you shortly

[ivory sigil]

...

[sinful relic]

should i do normal banner for now or event? to get some decent ship girls.

[wind hazel]

never do heavy/special

[knotty jolt]

never really pull on normal bannor, if you're gonna pull on the event one be my guest as they're fairly good ships aswell as they might never come back after the event is over so now would be your only time to get them

be mindful this december we'll be getting a new UR tho

So keep a fair stock of cubes for that

[onyx flame]

do 3 daily event if you want the collab ship girls and are strap for money, if you dc about them 1 light a day

[sinful relic]

im planning to go for Amagi UR, whenever she might rerun ngl

[onyx flame]

you got a lot of time to save for her since she's rerunning next year prob around the end of the year

[sinful relic]

noted noted. amagi is my favourite so i wanted to like do fresh accoutn where i havent messed up with gems

im currently using the NPC kurumi to speed run chapters and pull event because my team kinda sucks atm, apart from laffey.

[onyx flame]

did you get unicorn from guild shop?
actually just give this a read
https://azurlaneecgc.com/newbie_tips/

[sinful relic]

thanks ill take a look at that, appreciated

[ivory sigil]

If you are new team then i suggest checking the newbie guide, but at first i want to recommend you check my

-7-days newbie experience-
follow newbie guide
farm both Main chapter and Event spam abit for dailyquest to make laffey n unicorn become lv50-60-70-80-90
Learn more about gear / retrofit on wiki, speedrun Unicorn retrofit by 3star the ONLY 1-4HARD, 2-4HARD, 3-4HARD, 4-4HARD and 5-4HARD
maxlimitbreak strongest ally make them reach lv70-80 for that DAL sector6 and spam event on that

[sharp socket]

you could honestly just follow new player guide for like a month

[sinful relic]

i just got tohka, so theres that.

[onyx flame]

she's good question is how many sr bulin do you have among other things

[sinful relic]

i have 6 SR bulins.

i uh made a questionable purchase, the level 70 item.

[onyx flame]

any other sr ships in your 1 fleet?

[onyx flame]

that actually good deal since it lets you skip commander exp grinding

[sinful relic]

only the NPC kurumi.

[wind hazel]

all in tohka

[sharp socket]

the cmdr level to 70 is a great pack because you skip effectively 2 months of waiting

[sinful relic]

other than that

[sharp socket]

the downside is you suddenly have alot to learn at once

[onyx flame]

you can skip port from the newbie guide and shove in tohka

then uh get uni from guild shop and run nelson, long island along with kurumi laffey and tohka and tada 1 fleet jobs done

[sinful relic]

yeah im trying to join a guild. is it better to create my own one?

[onyx flame]

could check medal shop and see what hull type you got

[onyx flame]

nah just join one, creating cost gems among other issues with new guils having to grind guild tech on your own

[wind hazel]

rip dont think you have enough time to get enough medals

[onyx flame]

newbie missions does give 80 medals

[wind hazel]

how fast?

[sinful relic]

thats fine imo. ill take my time with that and slowly grind event, because i do enjoy Date a live

how many days exactly do i have left with date a live?

[onyx flame]

phase 2 conduct 3 exercise and poof 100 medals

[onyx flame]

bout 6~7

[wind hazel]

get alabama with the medals then

[sinful relic]

ran out of money but i got tohka to level 90

[onyx flame]

okay that a bit too much hyper lvling of tohka but aight

[wind hazel]

💀 fix her gear

[sinful relic]

this works?

[warm latch]

torp aux on ship with no torps 💀

[wind hazel]

and did you really spend your entire exp books on her

[sinful relic]

had nothing else

[sinful relic]

no i have so much more

[wind hazel]

how much is much more

[knotty jolt]

how many xp books does a new player have

[sinful relic]

i used like 20% maybe?

[wind hazel]

wtf

[warm latch]

dont new players get like 100 purple exp books?

[rapid shard]

Lv70 pack gives a fat stack of purple ones

[sinful relic]

because i got the level up rewards

[warm latch]

oh was it from the pack

[sinful relic]

plus imo im planning to use tohka throughout the entire thing.

[wind hazel]

still, dont waste them like that

[knotty jolt]

I forget purples exist and give so many cause we have no other way to obtain them

[sinful relic]

got it.

[onyx flame]

boost them a lil to the point where you can grind with em in the stages

anyway make sure to get unicorn

[sinful relic]

so like level 40?

[onyx flame]

well depends on what campaign stage your at

[sinful relic]

im spamming guiilds but none so far.

[ivory sigil]

Jesus 1 second ago i was seeing tohka lv1 and

1 sec later tohka is lv80

Bro really summary my 7 days of Azurlane speedrun into 1 second 💀

[sharp socket]

1 to 70 is about 100 blue books

70 to 90 is another 100+

[sinful relic]

what level guild should i join>?

[onyx flame]

the power of money

[rapid shard]

Anyone done the math on how many blue books to 120?

[wind hazel]

#1246721562741178410 find a nice one

[onyx flame]

one that does active guild ops preferable

[knotty jolt]

isn't it like 2.1mil xp to 100 to 120 so it's simple division at that point

[onyx flame]

you also start with 4k guild coins, so you can easily get your hand on unicorn before joining a guild

[wind hazel]

need extra because exp loss at 105, 110, 115

[knotty jolt]

yep math checks out on the calculator

[drowsy mirage]

Can you give me some time I rn now in class

[knotty jolt]

take your time

[sinful relic]

uh, where is it? Shop?

[onyx flame]

shop > supply > guild

[sinful relic]

unicorn?

[onyx flame]

elite ship, select unicorn

[knotty jolt]

under elite ship

[sinful relic]

noted

[onyx flame]

she's prio no 1 to be retro cause best healer in da game

[knotty jolt]

put tohka in the front cause she's over leveled to hell and back

[onyx flame]

once you get the 100 medals from phase 2 in rookie mission in hand book get alabama

[sinful relic]

like this?

[ivory sigil]

💀 can you at least lv other to lv20 30 40 something???????

[onyx flame]

also move tohka to the left spot aka tank spot

kurumi can be on the right aka off tank

[rapid shard]

tohka about to brutalize those low level worlds

[sinful relic]

got it

[knotty jolt]

Give like your other ships like 1 or two purple XP books or something while ya at it

[ivory sigil]

Kurumi is recommend to last spot for speedrun kurumi event

[sinful relic]

i cant get kurumi levels cuz npc

[ivory sigil]

Yeah by speedrun it you shall get her sooner

[warm latch]

yes you can

[knotty jolt]

She doesn't matter she'll likely not die even low level

[warm latch]

you dont have to completely max every ship immediately

[sinful relic]

this better?

[rapid shard]

Dont forget to put Long Island in that 3rd mainfleet slot

[onyx flame]

other than that just get alabama from medal shop to fill in your last backliner or use long island for temp.

[ivory sigil]

You can level Npc

Npc is just a indicator for early trial

[warm latch]

yea thats better, do you not have a 3rd main fleet ship?

[sinful relic]

should i do the event then? or grind chapters?

[knotty jolt]

Now go my youngling! go stomp early chapter levels!

[sinful relic]

i slotted in long

[ivory sigil]

If you have plenty of gold, you can get more DAL character, mostly assume that every 15-20 rolls could give you at least 1 SR DAL character

[sinful relic]

DAL?

[knotty jolt]

date a live short hand

[onyx flame]

they do not have enough gold bulins

[ivory sigil]

Date-A-Live

[rapid shard]

That is not good advice for just starting out

[sinful relic]

OH okay

[knotty jolt]

I mean with a credit card it could happen

[ivory sigil]

No i swear, i create account 7 days ago and i still have like 2SR bulins

[onyx flame]

just get alabama from medal shop once you get medals from rookie mission to replace long

[knotty jolt]

how much arethey willing to swipe is the real question

[ivory sigil]

The mail give alot

[sinful relic]

alright ill do alabama

[onyx flame]

just cause you get a lot doesnt mean you should spend it all

[sinful relic]

it takes longer to load in then to kill everything.

[ivory sigil]

I give 1 SR bulin to Tohka
1 SR bulin to Kurumi
1 SR bulin to Origami
1 SR bulin to Kotori
1 SR bulin to Yoshino
1 SR b... nah Yamai is not necessary if you can get her in sector6

So yeah i still have like 2 3 SR bulin left

[sinful relic]

kinda sad the original girl didnt get added

[rapid shard]

You never want to spread bulins like that. You want to MLB them one at a time. Non MLB ships do significantly less dmg

[sinful relic]

wait wheres the mission for the medals?

is it passed phase 1?

[onyx flame]

check your hand book > rookie missions phase 2

[warm latch]

if youre a new player you just cant afford to upgrade too many gold ships at the same time

[ivory sigil]

Yeah i did that on my 4th day of Azurlane

[onyx flame]

yea just cause you did it doesnt mean its good my guy

[rapid shard]

Was a bad choice of a limited time gated resource

[warm latch]

its not so bad with dal just because you can get 4 copies for two of them, but you still shouldnt do it

especially not on ships that wont be as useful

[ivory sigil]

Im new and yeah i did MLB them all

[warm latch]

like yoshino is automatically benched because unicorn exists

[ivory sigil]

Yeah yeah Yoshino i not recommend since i already simp her

[warm latch]

and shes too squishy to be a secondary healer in the stages where you actually need a secondary healer

[ivory sigil]

But technically other like Tohka and Kotori and kurumi is very

Im not discuss about longterm yet im giving them about the priority of Collab character cuz they will gone in like 7 days

For a longterm Azurplayer, having them is mostly for collection,
But in term of Collab' they are surprisingly good for newcomer

[wind hazel]

which part of yoshino is squishy

[onyx flame]

bro is assuming/projecting, they are already sticking around to get amagi cv

[sinful relic]

doing 3 exercises and then ill have the medals for alabama

[rapid shard]

She can replace long Island and that fleet will carry you very far into campaign

[sinful relic]

ah yes, i get people with 12000 battle score in both front and back.

[onyx flame]

that pvp for new players in a nutshell

[sinful relic]

tokha is somehow winnning against level 76s

[knotty jolt]

casual tohka w

[onyx flame]

well your tokha is juiced, anyway try to grind event for their unique aug as well

[ivory sigil]

Okay i cant really prove with just word alone , beside it is dev intention to make a stage hard so it is would be trouble for f2p

But here he is a p2w so ofcourse they wont be much a challenge beside swipe

[sinful relic]

i will try, once i get alabama im planning to get kurumi too

[ivory sigil]

The game already provide that Yoshino is given free so, it is kinda assume her power likely underwhelm
And oppositely is the other DAL who is in the banner they do have great dps to offer

And also free Augment from event, there wont be much trouble to waiting monthly yearly for shop for them or grind for coredata

[sinful relic]

tohka half health after deleting 6 level 76s

[warm latch]

yes, they do make stages that hard, and its no different for people who have paid because buying skins doesnt affect what ships you can get

you need proper fleet and gear setups for ch14&15, swiping wont help you with that

[rapid shard]

You can't p2w this game to begin with

[valid forge]

If there is no just "best" ship i would by gun ship for main line

[ivory sigil]

yes i'm refer to this:
my journey 7 days in azurlane newbie lol #gameplay-help message
shortly it is just level up DAL teammate to usable to event

For now the team is surely strong to battle most farming content now

[sinful relic]

i uh made it into a random guild called autism... atleast its level 10

[onyx flame]

you wouldnt use any of them but yamashiro/fusou/hiyou/junyou have good lvl 120 tech so you get them in the future

[ivory sigil]

You can't ask a newbie with 0 team as foundation to fight such GRINDY CHALLENGE that can took someone monthly or yearly to grind

[sinful relic]

?

[rapid shard]

Yes

[ivory sigil]

yes alabama good (she is good to develop you dont want to roll for Kotori in DAL banner, or use her in 2nd fleet etc etc)

[warm latch]

but you can recommend them to not spend all their resources upgrading a full 3:3 fleet of gold ships because they wont be able to mlb them all quickly

[sinful relic]

looking better?

[ivory sigil]

he just swipe

[warm latch]

believe it or not its cheaper to upgrade blue and purple ships than it is to upgrade gold ships

[rapid shard]

Flag Bama

[ivory sigil]

i agree that blue/purple is cheaper than SR char.
and yea most guide on youtube is outdated
so i believe he will able to progress strong if he stick to meta tierlist
cuz that's w14 w15 are need alot of research in tierlist and equipment grinding in research/lab etc

swipe wont help with that

[valid forge]

so its better to take on of them now, okay

[rapid shard]

Thats why the guides in this channel are what are reccomeneded. These guides are not outdated or clickbait

[sinful relic]

should i replace laffey with anyone or keep her?

[rapid shard]

Keep her for the time being

[valid forge]

i'll take fusou

[sinful relic]

ah it says ill need a second fleet? ignore that for the time being?

[onyx flame]

you can grab em but dont use them, they are not ver good

[ivory sigil]

ignore, for now 2nd fleet is not needed, just stick with solo match

[sick wind]

[rapid shard]

Ignore second fleet till you get to W10

[sinful relic]

noted

[valid forge]

I dont have enough SRs to fill whole fleet now so why not to use them

[sinful relic]

should i try to 100% the levels or just focus on progressing for now

[sick wind]

100%, you will have to fully clear it anyway

[onyx flame]

cause purple meta are that useless, also you shouldnt be filling your whole fleet with sr as a new player, you dont have the fund or mats to mlb them

read this if you havent https://azurlaneecgc.com/newbie_tips/

[warm latch]

you probably dont have the resources needed to upgrade META ships either

[onyx flame]

you can tweak the new player fleet based of what you have, but unicorn is a must stay, or send your dock here and people can suggest 1 fleet

[analog tendon]

Is there any valuable advantage in crafting https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/equips/id/38300 over https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/equips/id/38240 ?
The gear guide put them always at the same level, just that Saiun is a bit faster

[onyx flame]

timing adjustment

[rapid shard]

Saiun is faster for timing

[onyx flame]

you want your cv fleet to sync mainly for that freeze

if you can get away with ryusei then yea use it cause it does more dmg iirc or ju

[ebon verge]

usually i just slam ryusei and use the aux for time adjustment

[onyx flame]

using the aux is kinda sometimes

[ebon verge]

well if it works, it works

[rapid shard]

Saiun higher dmg than Ju?

[analog tendon]

Considering i'm short on everything i'll keep my Ryusei for now :V Thanks

[onyx flame]

saiun the lowest one among the 3 i think

[ivory sigil]

100% 1-1 to 1-4 of main chapter would help you unlock the hard version of its chapter and later chapter same as well

I recommend retrofit Unicorn by bringing your Tohka fight those to and then try to 3star Mainchapter Hard 3-4, 4-4, 5-4 for the Side Mission of complete

and yea there is not possible to 3star it from 1st run so you need to do abit of trick
This one in newbie guide:

[onyx flame]

so if you can get away with a slower plane but more dmg you try to basically when it comes to syncing

[whole crypt]

🧀

[ivory sigil]

Tl;dr the guide recomend you to "Retreat if the middle requirement not done" (namely Defeat escoft fleet)

escoft fleet are the one that not the bossy one on the map

[rapid shard]

All 3 of those are escorts....

[sinful relic]

hmm

[ivory sigil]

since the game timegate us with only 3 time try Hard mode perday,
by press retreat, you should able to continue the same map without costing a 1 try time, which saved you ton of time,

when you're complete that middle star, fight the boss for the 1st star and 3rd star to collect them in a same time

it should give you GOLDEN retrofit item for unicorn (in the Mission tab), which speedup the process

after that try to skip other map and focus on getting 3star these map X-4HARD for Speedrun retrofit unicorn

[violet grail]

Does anyone ever run out of conversion stones? I tried using em for the first time today and got max stats pretty fast on all my unique augments, feel bit dumb for not doing it earlier, and still have tons of stones leftover. Thinking maybe I should just buy blue and purple cats rather than conversion stones with excess event points now.

[onyx flame]

why would you buy blue cats?

[ivory sigil]

cute

[ebon verge]

how does an example sakura CV fleet look like? i have all the UR CVs

[late flame]

tbh i have never bothered with stones or cats

[rain vine]

realistically you shouldnt be running out of conversion stones

[rapid shard]

Stone shortage is only a issue first month or 2 if you try making too many too fast

[onyx flame]

amagi cv + hakuhou + freeze, if freeze isnt need shinano

[ebon verge]

oh so haku got ditched out?

[violet grail]

Not rly much left to buy, I already got the ship as a drop and not really planning to level her. I guess the tech boxes rather than blue cats then?

[whole crypt]

how many points did you even do to have excess for blue/purple cats

I'd just buy tech boxes if you don't do gear skins

[rain vine]

id rather save up and buy the gear skins

[late flame]

-# me buying out gear skin* boxes

[violet grail]

60k. I got to 55k a bit too fast now still gaining a bit from dailies but im back to farming 12-4 since a few days ago

[whole crypt]

well I'm at 65 and I don't have that much excess, granted I did skins and one copy of ship

[wispy cosmos]

are you in a position where it makes sense to buy dupes for lb

[violet grail]

Yeah drop saves 8k

[late flame]

bought 2 copies becos rng hates me

[rapid shard]

Same

[ivory sigil]

not same, we still have 1 week left for rng

[onyx flame]

i got mlb from drops and gacha

[violet grail]

I dont intend to use her hence not getting extra copies

[whole crypt]

I already have her but she was level capped and I'm out of bulins

[rapid shard]

If you dont have her MLB you can wait till end of event and buy thr dupes needed for 0 bulin cost MLB

[late flame]

Got twins from gacha but yeah not a single drop from 65k worth of runs lol

[rapid shard]

Mine was to you lol you've already got all the worth while stuff. You can get the gold crates and hope rng gives the 1-2 actually good gears from them lol

[wispy cosmos]

sounds like youre not then, go buy gear boxes>cat, gear skins are personal so no advice on them

[ebon verge]

how about the vg, tank + kazagumo + sirius ?

[rapid shard]

Highest value gears off top of head is gold catapults from EU gold roomba from HMS, gold quad mags from IB. Cant remember IJN ones

[onyx flame]

gold cata is from all boxes iirc

[wispy cosmos]

with 2500 id go eu+ib

[late flame]

my fleet2 is the ijn fleet.. lazy to swap out shinano

[rapid shard]

I cant remember any other high value from EU crates tbh. Gold hellcats are nice

[violet grail]

Eh nothing I really need more of then tbh other than extras to not have to switch em between ships at all.

[whole crypt]

catapults are all boxes but at some point it's just quadmag gacha

[ebon verge]

i assume the ideal tank is agir since she has slow and armor break (idk how good is that armor break)

[onyx flame]

armor break is for bbs iirc

[whole crypt]

nowadays you just want corsairs for uss box

[rapid shard]

Tenrai also procs armor break

[whole crypt]

which should be more common than gold hellcats

[onyx flame]

500 flapjacks please

[ivory sigil]

sure!

let's go gambling

[whole crypt]

AB isn't that useful unless you have a lot of FP scaling

[ivory sigil]

errrrrrrrrr what is this gear? wait that firecontrol ? i think someone did said i need that

[rapid shard]

Only good thing out of that is the FCR tbh

[late flame]

rainbow hvar hellcat when

[rapid shard]

Twin 410 is decent

[onyx flame]

this dec trust

[rapid shard]

rainbow eva gear when

[onyx flame]

more like release my afct please i beg manjuu

[valid forge]

how to get unicorn

[rapid shard]

Guild shop

[violet grail]

oh gold hellcat might be nice ive never actually pulled one of those

[onyx flame]

guild shop
shop > supply > guild

[ivory sigil]

so 16 box only give 2 goods ? 😭 even golden one is tossaway???

[valid forge]

okay

[rapid shard]

Its a minor upgrade over the purple corsair if you pull one

[rapid shard]

Just because gold doesnt mean good.

[onyx flame]

just upgrade the purple corsair to flapjacks

[late flame]

cough electronics cough
But solved by enough opsi

[onyx flame]

if no opsi mats to upgrade then gold 2 500lbs boms fighter is a stopgap i suppose

[rapid shard]

having to settle for a tigercat cause no ords for flap

[onyx flame]

and shooting your electronic supplies

[late flame]

tbh tigercat is a flap sidegrade, just that the latter has better AA thanks to slower speed

[violet grail]

I mean ive got a couple flapjacks i shouldnt really be worrying much about this stuff XD

[onyx flame]

never enough

[violet grail]

tru tru

[rapid shard]

Its nice having the extras so your not constantly swapping gear around. im lazy af with swapping so I keep making more keeping me broke nonstop

[whole crypt]

corsairs are cheaper to enhance than gold hellcats for the interim though

[valid forge]

is pennsylvania that good or i can use my current elite/SR battleships?