gameplay-help

[ocean terrace]

you know when you click on an enemy ship, go into battle and win, at the end of that specific battle, it'll show the S, A or B

[ivory sigil]

What is that oil number @gusty badger

[gusty badger]

idk

[ocean terrace]

I had 20k oil too, it's from rewards in mail as a new player

not storage, but just by collecting the mail/mission rewards

[ivory sigil]

23k OIL NUMBER

if you want to clear 2-4 as a newbie

You need to spend it till that oil reach 5k

[stray crane]

How, I ran out of oil quuick

[gusty badger]

im just doing battle a lot

[viscid swift]

what

[ocean terrace]

well I came back to the game with 20k oil

[ivory sigil]

Spam the hella of that oil pls on what ever map you won cuz that is basically how i win 2-4 and so on

[stray crane]

Thats nice

[gusty badger]

but it only uses 20 oil so o have to do it 1,100 times

[ocean terrace]

I'm pretty sure they give you a ton of immediate oil as a new player

[viscid swift]

should have just left oil in the handbook missions

[stray crane]

I got 4k from that weekly thing

[ocean terrace]

yeah but when you've just downloaded the game and see crazy amount of rewards in mail and missions, you're prone to accept it all

[gusty badger]

how do i make it go faster

[viscid swift]

you can't

[ivory sigil]

Okay i was extragrated, just press auto AUTO-SORTIE for 500 oil and they shall level up quick

[stray crane]

I also use gems got that pack from the shop like 120 gems 2k oil

[ocean terrace]

I mean I used all 20k oil in 3 days by grinding event, pushing campaign and farming in general

[viscid swift]

why

[ocean terrace]

only use gems for dock space, and 3rd slot in dorm

[stray crane]

ran out oil man

[viscid swift]

spending gems on anything other than dorm slots and dock space is a massive waste

esepcially if you're free to play

[stray crane]

okay i will stop

[viscid swift]

then wait for commsissions and the canteen to generate more

gems are the game's premium currency, there's a finite amount you can get as a free to play

[ocean terrace]

feel free to ask about any decision you make to be honest, I do that to prevent making mistakes I'll regret

[stray crane]

I did put a little bit money in

[gusty badger]

yay

[ocean terrace]

she's amazing for you

[viscid swift]

still wouldn't buy oil with gems unless you're a massive whale

[limber tundra]

is there an efficent way to farm this?

[stray crane]

wont happen again

[viscid swift]

#trophy-room is that way

[ocean terrace]

level her up and try to max limit break her and get her in your fleet

[viscid swift]

take 3 EU vanguards, put them in the mob fleet and spa area 6 of the event or in W12

[ivory sigil]

💀 okay now the helping is even harder... she does perform better than Portland fyi

[gusty badger]

i have this

[ivory sigil]

So yeah you can either choose to replace portland or keep portland and replace other

[ivory sigil]

Well done

Use them

[viscid swift]

you got a question or something?

[gusty badger]

how to get kurumi

[ivory sigil]

Spam 10000 oil on them i mean

[stray crane]

I can get one more of this but I highly doubt i can max those point out

[ivory sigil]

Yeah literally spam oil to get kurumi

[gusty badger]

where

[viscid swift]

dude, we're not even halfway through the event's duration yet, you have time

[ocean terrace]

I thought that too but I managed to do it in 2/3 days

[limber tundra]

like, stage 6 in story mode?

[ivory sigil]

That picture is the exact event to get kurumi

[stray crane]

thats the stuff i got rn

[viscid swift]

if you're still in chapter 6 then forget about trying to grind XP for that efficiently

[ocean terrace]

by the way have you checked mail then storage?

[viscid swift]

focus on farming the event and pushing the main campaign for now, grinding Saint Louis is at best something on the back burner

[gusty badger]

it said i have to get friendship points

[stray crane]

yeah I did

[junior fractal]

bless the people in this channel that answer questions because holy man

[ivory sigil]

@gusty badger place Kurumi in the last spot in your team would increase the score by x2 to obtain kurumi faster

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/460645783021289472/1442163467439308942/image.png?ex=6925c064&is=69246ee4&hm=18f92520723c7ed6a600fac842c77f2ac150b38663d8e300dd4ee62df7b67b05&

[ocean terrace]

nothing there?

[limber tundra]

i stopped at chapter 10 cuz im kinda lazy

[stray crane]

Used it all

[viscid swift]

well get to chapter 12 at least

literally the best spot to farm in the entire game

[ocean terrace]

what have you been grinding with all that oil, if not the event

[viscid swift]

and one of the easiest too

[ivory sigil]

Friendship pts = spam oil

[limber tundra]

alright ill do that

[stray crane]

stages and events I can only farm sector one

my ship lvl too low

[viscid swift]

did you at least use a 1-1 fleet

[ocean terrace]

I think their full fleet can barely handle sector 1

[gusty badger]

what is spam oil

[ivory sigil]

You spend oil with Kurumi placed in last spot = x2 friendship pts

[stray crane]

this

[gusty badger]

i dont have that

[ivory sigil]

Spam = Spend

[viscid swift]

why the fuck are you using almost a full fleet against level 35 enemies

[stray crane]

exp

[viscid swift]

just use Unicorn and one of the vanguards for each fleet and that'll clear easily

[gusty badger]

just do repeat 2-4 a lot of times with kurumi in the fleet ?

[stray crane]

okay

[viscid swift]

and do coalition mode as well for more event points, the other fleet can be Saratoga and one of the other vanguards

[ivory sigil]

Yes

And kurumi alive... (afloat)

[viscid swift]

and no area 1 is not somewhere you wanna farm XP for

[gusty badger]

shouldnt i save oil to for the event mission

[stray crane]

like this "?

[viscid swift]

yes

actually though, why the fuck can't you do area 2-5

4 of your ships are overleveled and even Helena's about at parity with them level wise

[ocean terrace]

are your ships max limit break? how many stars are they on

[ocean terrace]

oh you should be fine for higher sectors then (max limit break helena)

[ivory sigil]

The thing is. Your oil is overflow.

Saving oil for event is for people with no overflow oil.

The ammount of overflow oil is the exact amount to level them up which i and other already did

I just start playing this game 7 days ago and had exact same issue

And thus i spend all of those overflow oil to lvl them up and thus reach this far after 7 days started

[stray crane]

Yeah I can probably mlb her today

[ocean terrace]

try to farm the highest sector you can (I think you could do sector 4 or 5)

[gusty badger]

should i use double reward double oil plan

[viscid swift]

sector 3-5 all have the same levels and the same drops almost

[ocean terrace]

solo battling the higher sectors is better than coalition on lower I think?

[stray crane]

I need 3 fleet tho

[viscid swift]

just do it in solo mode

[ivory sigil]

Not necessary, they only give 10 per week. You can save it for future

[stray crane]

still 1-1 fleet ?

[gusty badger]

i have 52

[viscid swift]

no, use your full fleet

[ocean terrace]

you won't be able to 1-1 in higher sectors

also check if you're getting S on each battle after, for bonus xp

if not, go down a sector to farm

[stray crane]

I think my helena will die

[viscid swift]

try and see what happens first, if she does then do normal mode for a bit in area 2-5

[stray crane]

sheesh

[ivory sigil]

go ahead and try

they are not necessary to use imo

[ivory sigil]

How

A lvl100 cant ???

[stray crane]

for stage 9 too low I cant clear stage 9

[ocean terrace]

question for farming the event, would it be better to:
A, farm sector 5 with 1:1 coalition fleets
B, farm sector 6 solo battles full fleet

[ivory sigil]

Had u upgrade the ship???

THE SPACESHIP I MEAN

[viscid swift]

sector 6

[pine whale]

Difference between the two 150? Which one should I use? Blue or purple

[ocean terrace]

always the 150% xp / bonus xp

[stray crane]

oh u talking about event yes

[pine whale]

So I use the T2 one? Or all of them?

[viscid swift]

you gain 50% XP if you use a text book that corresponds the skill's color

[ocean terrace]

you'll use them for a ship anyway, doesn't matter

[pine whale]

And...?

[ocean terrace]

I like to use my gold ones though if I can

[pine whale]

Do you confirm, "Collab"?

[viscid swift]

so you for a yellow skill you'd use a Yellow book

just straight up get more XP

[pine whale]

Alright then. I'll use them. 10 is cap, right?

[viscid swift]

max for skills yeah

[pine whale]

Thank you again. Will farm Kurumi. Need to have her for dorm. 119 average morale is killing me

[unreal kelp]

hi, returning player here, what is the best method for grinding exp for ships?

[ocean terrace]

same problem with me, work towards unlocking 2nd floor on dorm by expanding (requires dorm coins)

[viscid swift]

well right now farm area 6 of the event

[stray crane]

Can i see u guys event farming fleet

[viscid swift]

afterward if you haven't made it to chapter 12 of the main campaign yet push there

[stray crane]

how much oil ?

[unreal kelp]

ah okay, so just farm area 6 till i have everything in the shop?

[viscid swift]

I can show you but I doubt it'd be of much help to you

[ocean terrace]

100 per battle, 500 for 5x sortie

[viscid swift]

well not everything from the shop, just until you get 55k-60k event points

[unreal kelp]

thanks for info

[stray crane]

how come i m using 192

[ocean terrace]

sector 6 has oil cap

[viscid swift]

because area 6 maps have oil caps, the rest don't

[ocean terrace]

thats why farming sector 6 is far superior to the rest (get there as fast as you can if possible)

[stray crane]

let me try this set up

[ocean terrace]

do you have xp books for helena

[stray crane]

nah I ran out

[ocean terrace]

are you commander level 50 yet

[stray crane]

72 i got the booster from shop

[ocean terrace]

you should be getting xp books from lecture hall in HQ

[stray crane]

yeah i spent thoes on roon

[ocean terrace]

why is she not in your fleet or why are you spending on someone not in your fleet

[viscid swift]

eh I doubt it

the lecture hall only converts XP from ships at or above level 100

[ocean terrace]

ahhh I see

is it the extra xp that they earn from battles that can't be applied?

[stray crane]

I got 2 100s

my saratoga about to be 100

[viscid swift]

what

[gusty badger]

why did my fleet sink when doing auto battle

[viscid swift]

because it wasn't strong enough

[gusty badger]

but i already complete

[ocean terrace]

is it a passive thing where every ship above level 100 and above produces xp for the hall, or is it xp gained from battles that can't be applied to max level ships

[ivory sigil]

What ship sink? Frontline or backline?

[viscid swift]

all ships above level 100 contribute XP to it gained from battle

[stray crane]

yeah i cant clear hard gonna do normal lvl 80

[viscid swift]

even ships capped at 3 million XP

[ocean terrace]

right, got it

[viscid swift]

I dunno, maybe you accidently changed it to manual and your ships couldn't do anything

[ocean terrace]

but it's only the xp gained from battle, which means it doesn't produce over time on its own if you did nothing

[viscid swift]

no, that's right

[ocean terrace]

yeah your helena will probably die

also from the looks of it, you don't have portland in your tank position

[ivory sigil]

You need to focus on getting 1 strongest Ship 1st

If you mean kurumi sink because of low level then pls try a lower difficulty map, or just farm her later. Focus on getting 1 Dps strong 1st

[stray crane]

Normal she survived

[ocean terrace]

try putting portland in the left most of your vanguard, then helena in the middle, then phoenix on the right

[gusty badger]

should i use this

[ivory sigil]

When your DPS 1shot the enemy then u had no worry about your ship drown

[viscid swift]

it's just a time saver

[ocean terrace]

you should have your tank on the left of your fleet (Tohka) and your off-tank on your right of the fleet (Kurumi), with the squishiest being in the middle

[viscid swift]

you get double the rewards but your costs are also doubled

[gusty badger]

im trying to progress then so i can do the event after

im level 20 now

[ivory sigil]

The event did not had an option to use that x2

[viscid swift]

sure if you want to then

[gusty badger]

when should i start doing the event

[analog tendon]

Does this have some niche use like the SG Radar for Helena or can i disassemble it? (my gear inventory is exploding, trying to clear up the stuff not needed)

https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/equips/id/1140

[viscid swift]

as soon as you can really

[stray crane]

should i go for this ?

[viscid swift]

first stage has enemies at level 20 on normal mode

[ivory sigil]

so yeah, use it

It is timesaver afterall

Fastest is swipe

[viscid swift]

no

[ocean terrace]

don't retrofit warspite, don't put any resources into that

[stray crane]

where shouuld i spent my gold now any advice ?

[viscid swift]

upgrading gear would a good start

[stray crane]

too late XD

[viscid swift]

sigh

[ocean terrace]

she's so expensive to retrofit + she's the worst UR BB by a good margin

not worth the resources

[ivory sigil]

Sector 1 event require you had your fleet lv around 20 for easy and 35 for hard

So you need around lvl 20-35 of most ship

[stray crane]

I about to finish unicorn

[ocean terrace]

I don't blame you though, I was planning to retrofit her before I got told it's not a good idea

[viscid swift]

I alos literally told you several days ago not to put anymore resources into her

[stray crane]

its before that

[ocean terrace]

prioritise uni retrofit, I'm very close to it too

[viscid swift]

sigh

[ivory sigil]

She so cute why not

Okay okay noted...

[ocean terrace]

I don't have anyone else to retrofit so I'm also close to retrofitting Helena, if you have resources for it you can do the same

[stray crane]

portland next ? or helena?

[ocean terrace]

do you have a better tank other than Portland

[stray crane]

i m kinda doing san diego too

i got roon

[viscid swift]

don't do Sandy's either right now

way too expensive for your meager resources

as I said, if you haven't already start looking to enhance your gear

[stray crane]

yeah I saw them on the teir list thats why XD

[sweet delta]

Have you ever heard of the idiom
"Jack of all retrofits, master of nothing"

[ocean terrace]

you're spreading yourself thin, you should focus on ships you can properly focus on and use

you don't have the resources to be upgrading all those ships, especially expensive ones like warspite and san diego

[stray crane]

I kinda mess up I used all my exp book to that meta ship

thats why i m so f rn

[ocean terrace]

they look cool so I get where you're coming from but I've heard they are garbage

[viscid swift]

hint, the META does not mean meta

it's short for Metamorphosis

[ocean terrace]

ahhh that's nice to know

[ocean terrace]

it's fine you'll get plenty of resources over time, just focus on the right things for now

[stray crane]

thats why i m tryna get these to 80 ish so i can clear maps

[ocean terrace]

can you MLB them all?

[stray crane]

commission

[viscid swift]

didn't I literaly just tell you the other day as well non MLB ships are garabage

[sweet delta]

Tell again

[viscid swift]

I know you don't have enough Bluepirnts to dev 30 any of them except Roon

[stray crane]

i can mlb them

[viscid swift]

and San Diego NEEDs her augment to be in anyway half decent

[viscid swift]

based on what I saw in your depot the other day, no you cannot

PR ships don't use Bullins, they need blueprints

[stray crane]

or coins

[ocean terrace]

how'd you get your hands on so many PR ships this early

[stray crane]

and i got prints for roon

[viscid swift]

you know it costs like a million coins to dev 30 a PR in one day right

[stray crane]

no i use maybe 3k a day

[tulip tinsel]

that's 10 bps for pr

[viscid swift]

yah, and that's gonna take you a few months to finish all 3

[stray crane]

for one ship doing auguust von rn

[analog tendon]

This sentence just inflicted SAN damage to my brain, and i'm not even the recipient of it

[ocean terrace]

also correct me if I'm wrong but aren't all of those ships not that great anyway?

[viscid swift]

they're all solid

[drowsy quest]

Stupid question, why you unicorn looks like that?

[ocean terrace]

how about compared to the DAL ships

[stray crane]

give her the ring

[ivory sigil]

💀 man, having so much ship is so stressful

I'm glad i was unlucky and lucky enough to use only DAL fleet and that's all.

But yeah for future progression idk
DAL doesnt sound and look fulfilled

May be getting UR in december then

[ocean terrace]

oathed, reach 100 affinity and spend 600 gems on a ring to marry them

[viscid swift]

like, you can do the math, 3k coins gets you like 10 BPs a day
you need 343 blueprints to dev 30 a PR ship

[ocean terrace]

not all ships have a marriage/oath skin though

[viscid swift]

and you should be able to be in W12 in no more than a month after I'm writing this if you put in a decent amount of effoty

[stray crane]

I got prints for roon and I m only lvling up august von rn

[ivory sigil]

💀 dev pls give yoshino oath skin

Her swimsuit has nothing change to the Chibi outfit

[sweet delta]

It's like talking to a wall

[viscid swift]

stop putting XP on them and get working on ships you can actually dev 30 right now

[stray crane]

I dont really have any good ships rn

[viscid swift]

yes you fucking do

[ocean terrace]

I think it's good to invest into the DAL ships, they are quite easy to get and decently better than a lot of the starter ships you get

[stray crane]

like what ?

[viscid swift]

you just don't have bullins for them

[stray crane]

yeah thats why they doing commission rn

[viscid swift]

Seydlitz for one, Kotori, Kurumi, the Yamai sisters

[stray crane]

these are the one i m focusing rn

[ivory sigil]

At this point i might MLB them all if i still play Azurland for 1 month straight 💀

[ocean terrace]

I've played for 3/4 days and I've mlb'd the ones I'm using... (Kurumi, Kotori, Tohka)

[ivory sigil]

Cant apply to f2p

[ocean terrace]

I am f2p...

[stray crane]

this one ?

[ivory sigil]

having 10000 gold to Max LMB them is too expense

[ocean terrace]

ahhh, to be fair I had a lot of coins in my storage from mail

[viscid swift]

if you really want to put XP on ships in preparation for a 2nd fleet, put XP on ships the ships I just mentioned plus Roon and not 3 PRs you're not gonna max limit break any time bloody soon

[ocean terrace]

my account is 4 years old (I downloaded the game and played for a couple of days) but I only came back to it a few days ago

so I probably have more resources from the mail than actual new accounts

[stray crane]

Okay

[ocean terrace]

Roon is like a slightly better and useful Prinz Eugen if I recall correctly?

[viscid swift]

Roon is much better than Prinz Eugen

[stray crane]

My issue rn my vanguard are too weak

[ocean terrace]

between Prinz and Agir then as a tank?

[stray crane]

thats why i cant clear stage 9

[viscid swift]

Agir is much tankier, had an armor break and slow, and much better damage

[ocean terrace]

oh I meant Roon is sort of a middle ground between the 2 then I assume

[viscid swift]

it would help to get more levels on them, improve and ehance their gear, and getting a 2nd fleet together

[viscid swift]

Roon has better damage than even Agir

she's the least tanky of the 3 though

[ocean terrace]

ahhh, more of a dps than a pure tank

[stray crane]

And i dont really have any good gears rn

[ocean terrace]

and now I see what happens when I level my ships to 100

any way to avoid this somehow for future commissions?

[viscid swift]

no

[stray crane]

I think u get the cog chips

[viscid swift]

just a chokepoint you'll have to live with for a bit

[ocean terrace]

yeah the problem is I need a level 100 ship as a requirement, because one of my ships has reached level 100

[stray crane]

i use that meta ship for this

lol

[tulip tinsel]

very good commission

[ocean terrace]

yeah I can use warspite for it, just annoying haha

I'm tempted to just mlb Prinz Eugen (she's 1* away) and get to her to level 100 just to send her on these commissions

[ivory sigil]

Idk but my healer just casually mvp 4 boss

-# (Sorry i accidentally send wrong pic for ping earlier)

[ocean terrace]

probably much better gear or higher level than the others?

[ivory sigil]

Laffey was lv100 and Unicorn is lv90

Other are 75

[viscid swift]

well there's part of why, level advantage is a powerful thing in AL

[pine whale]

I'm slowly working towards Unicorn's turning into a death machine. I'm very satisfied. And it's all thanks to you. Well, see you tomorrow

[stray crane]

what should i trade? Already got the ship weapons and all gear boxes

[drowsy quest]

How do you get this one? Farming?

[viscid swift]

every level your ships have over the enemy that's 2% more damage dealt by them and 2% less damage taken, that stacks additively up to 50%

[stray crane]

yeah event shop

[ocean terrace]

https://azurlaneecgc.com/shop_priority/

[viscid swift]

however the opposite is also true if your ships are underleveled compared to the enemy

[ocean terrace]

scroll to the bottom of that page, shows priority for event

[stray crane]

yeah i see it, gonna get all those plates now

[ocean terrace]

I'm not sure that's her job...but if it works for you

[viscid swift]

it's a placebo effect

[ocean terrace]

I always have Kotori being my MVP, while Tohka takes it for easier, shorter battles

[pine whale]

Probably

[viscid swift]

Unicorn doesn't deal more damage, she's just getting damage in early with her preload and killing everything before anyone else has time to get damage in

[pine whale]

I mean. The heal is fantastic (lv 8 atm) and she has good anti air

[ocean terrace]

best healer for a reason

[heady jasper]

when do i start focusing on a second team

[pine whale]

Where you at in campaign?

[viscid swift]

around when you get to W9 or so

[heady jasper]

4

[viscid swift]

and when you have ships worth leveling for a 2nd fleet

[viscid swift]

might wanna consider switching to playing on EN then

[stark quiver]

hi gph

[heady jasper]

whyyy

[viscid swift]

so you can actually read what everything says

[ocean terrace]

do they... not play on the global servers?

[viscid swift]

and all 3 servers are in sync anyway

[heady jasper]

i mean i have a translator but i just dont have much time with me rn

[viscid swift]

so there's no benefit to playing on JP over global

[heady jasper]

already bought the lvl 70 thing.. not switching nuh uh

but thanks doe

[viscid swift]

expect trying to understand what's going on to be a living hell then

because none us are exactly fluent in JP

[heady jasper]

haha i see, no problem i have a little experience

[ocean terrace]

if you need help with KR though let me know (it has no correlation I'm just putting it out there)

[stray crane]

just chatgpt

[heady jasper]

grindy game tho i need to atleast do three runs to get a full star on a stage starting from w4

[ocean terrace]

if you manually do the repeat sortie, you can do them in 2 runs, up until about W7/W8

auto searching skips a lot of escort fleets

[stray crane]

do i get anything for 3 staring the war archive ?

[viscid swift]

no

[ocean terrace]

if there's no benefit to 3 starring war archive stages, should you just clear them all 1 by 1 and then... farm the last stage repeatedly?

[viscid swift]

yes

[stray crane]

when should i start doing the tech point stuff

[viscid swift]

not until you get to W12

[gusty badger]

should I update anyone on this

[viscid swift]

replace Gridley with Helena

[stray crane]

unicorn

[viscid swift]

you can get her from the guild shop, same place as Unicorn

also, limit break your ships

[gusty badger]

i did

[viscid swift]

Z23 is still at limit break 0

so is Gridley

and Portland

[ocean terrace]

don't limit break Gridley, just put Helena in and limit break her instead

as well as the rest

[ivory sigil]

I think that is after apply white bullet ?

[ocean terrace]

yeah I got my white bullet to +9 because it'll always be useful

[ivory sigil]

@gusty badger I really want to say, if you have EXP book, please keep it for DAL or your favorite SR

When u lvl them up keep them as equal to survive by like 50% of enemy lvl

[gusty badger]

how do i increase mood

[viscid swift]

gotta wait, put them in the dorm for them to recover faster

[gusty badger]

unhappy?

[ivory sigil]

Can i ask @viscid swift ? Why does this 2nd team from Emily having 3SR and yet emily isnt recommend to use them?

Like their kit is not viable?

[tender lotus]

Is this the correct gears for her?

[viscid swift]

Eugen and Avrora are shit

[red sapphire]

Depending of where are you using her. Use this guide for quick reference https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide/

[gusty badger]

how do i continue to sortie now

[viscid swift]

you don't, take a break

[wise cairn]

Do sorties in opsi count for pr ship xp grind?

[gusty badger]

how long

[weak elk]

2hrs or more

[red sapphire]

Uhm sorry for the bad taken screenshot my phone doesn't help

[ocean terrace]

wait there's another benefit of oathing, better morale recovery! (I know it's not worth it dw)

[weak elk]

How bad is hutten without ammo

[olive urchin]

10-2 what happened? Where is the boss?

[pine whale]

Don't worry. 5 stages isn't much in number, but as far as

• levels
• Morale
• maxing "The Six" + some others
• events
  are concerned, you're in for a loooooooooooooong ride before that.

Things you should do

• ask here
• focus on one fleet
• check the rest of your options at disposal
• post your Dock, while at it

[viscid swift]

try logging out and back in again

[violet grail]

It's super slow but yes they do and better than nothing when you're out of oil if you have the time for it to get a bit of extra. I actually just finished unlocking FdG and 30% of the combat data collection I did through opsi C1 farming, the other 70% through 12-4 like a normal person though.

[peak fable]

I asked before and no one responded, but I wanted to know if there is anything in the event shop that's oil-inefficient to farm aside of exp obviously. I think it's pretty safe to say that limited items and blueprints are definitely worth farming, but I was more wondering about the coins and the plates.

I guess the question is basically, "If only coins and plates are left in the event shop, would you still farm it empty, or just do campaign?"

[hollow gust]

There are not a lot of things worth the effort to farm. For most people hitting the 55k milestone is what's the most valuable part

[drowsy quest]

Is kurumi worth to limit break? Or use it on fleet?

[peak fable]

I was gonna ask why, but I think I realized that the reason isn't value, but rather necessity, I assume endgame players just don't need anything else

[hollow gust]

55k threshold is the golden plates

Which is by far the most valuable thing for any player

[peak fable]

in the long run, for sure

[rain bobcat]

even in the short run lol

10 universals is a big diff. that's almost a week of guild shop and you get to keep it for when u need it

[viscid swift]

besides, what do you need extra purple plates, blue cat boxes, etc for anyway

[rain bobcat]

all you really have to buy is prints, gear, cog/array, gold cat/purple cat

[drowsy quest]

From the pases which one is the best to get , the cruise pass?

[daring rivet]

I’m running low on oil, can I get more anyhow?

[forest palm]

swiping

if you've emptied your in-game bank, other than that all you can do is touch grass or play ops if available

[hollow gust]

how did you spend the 5k free oil already??

[daring rivet]

5k free oil?

I’m not a noob, I just wanna grind more

I’m not out of the foxmines yet

[hollow gust]

the weekly oil pack in shop

[daring rivet]

Ohhh

Then yeah blame the foxmines and kurumi

[hollow gust]

why tf you grinding foxes witha eevtn around......

[daring rivet]

I spent 30k oil today, still no Kaga

[hollow gust]

those two are worth less then the gold plates event gives

[daring rivet]

I meant Kaga, I got 3 Akagi

[peak fable]

https://tenor.com/view/stare-cat-cat-stare-fast-gif-9103868621036733672

[forest palm]

something seriously wrong

[hollow gust]

you should be running 1-1 fleets for 3-4

[rain bobcat]

[daring rivet]

Wym?

[forest palm]

you'd cosume less oil...

[daring rivet]

Oh. I mean I can show you my lineup rq

[hollow gust]

like ranger- cassin is strong enough; for 3-4. how tf did you blow through 30k oil

[forest palm]

yup that'll do it

wasting oil like crazy

[hollow gust]

on two shitty carriers despite being a newbie

[daring rivet]

I’m not a newbie

[peak fable]

nah, let's cope guys, he is commander level farming, trust

[forest palm]

if you want to do that ops exists...

[hollow gust]

just that fleet says otherwise

[daring rivet]

I’m lv 64 almost 65

[hollow gust]

yeah i can hit that level in less then a week, you are a very very new player. you shouldnt even be sniffing fox mines rn

[rain bobcat]

not newbie

• full ironblood of horrible ships
• the vanguard is completely opposite to what it should be since z23 is now main tanking
• farming using 74 oil PER FIGHT instead of <5
• farming akagi and kaga of all things

[peak fable]

I have a genuine fear that he unironically leveled that fleet to 100+ just from 3-4

[analog tendon]

The reason they are reacting is that you can clear 3-4 using only 2 ships (one main and one vanguard), which saves you a LOT of oil per each run

[daring rivet]

Wait really?

[rain bobcat]

that's not enough

[daring rivet]

Yeah I did actually

[peak fable]

https://tenor.com/view/stare-cat-cat-stare-fast-gif-9103868621036733672

[hollow gust]

commander level means nothing in AL; you get tracked by progress. and you are choppng of both your legs trying to grind those two instead of event

[rain bobcat]

it's like bringing the entire american navy to hunt a single merchant vessel

[analog tendon]

The amount of oil you spend for each battle is affected by the amount (and type) of ships you bring with you. Less ships = less oil cost for each battle

[daring rivet]

I got all of the DaL characters tho

[hollow gust]

still grind event maps? its full of valuable resources not to mention milestone rewards

10 gold plates is still more valuable then akagi and kaga who lose to elite carriers

[daring rivet]

I just want Akagi and Kaga because I like them from the anime

[peak fable]

you can get a kaga from the pvp shop!

[daring rivet]

I checked, she’s not on mine

[peak fable]

she looks a bit different though!

[sweet delta]

The first fleet is a standard fleet for farming 3-4 with the help of the second fleet just existing

[daring rivet]

Oh wait I forgot about my other fleets

[hollow gust]

either way you should be progressing forward

[daring rivet]

I’ll show those too

[ocean terrace]

they don't consume oil, it's just for crossfleet buffs

[analog tendon]

Sorry, but the 2nd fleet "just existing" and being monstrously stronger than the "active" one kinda cracked me up XD

[peak fable]

I have the cat gif ready

[sweet delta]

If you actually progress efficiently towards not being a new player first, then you can farm akaga later with a 4 oil fleet instead of a 69 oil fleet

[peak fable]

guam and soyuz wtf...

[sweet delta]

No unicorn, automatic 0/10

[daring rivet]

For 3 times around it costs 800 something oil

[peak fable]

HOW LONG DID BRO FARM 3-4

[hollow gust]

and will actually be able to afford to mlb soyuz

[daring rivet]

Not long enough, I need Kaga

[ocean terrace]

I think they're a very casual player who's just collecting ships they like

[daring rivet]

Correct

[bleak junco]

Sorry, who’s the one on the top right in the second image?

[daring rivet]

The meta girl?

[hollow gust]

erbrus meta

[daring rivet]

Ya know, for not being built she still does a good amount of dmg

[ocean terrace]

on 3-4, any ship will

[hollow gust]

not a newbie my ass

[peak fable]

im honestly just fascinated

[daring rivet]

Also what? Do you not like them?

[peak fable]

no it just means you are around for a while

[ocean terrace]

I think there are probably a large chunk of players like this, that don't know or care about progressing and just collect ships they like and do whatever

[rain bobcat]

that's because ur bringing a gun to a water ball fight

[daring rivet]

I have? Wait when did they come out?

[rain bobcat]

end of 2023

[daring rivet]

I’ve been playing for that long??

[ocean terrace]

see? they're not a noob!

[daring rivet]

I mean I started around that event or at least close to it

Also idk how to build these properly, can I have help?

[peak fable]

I have such a hard time relating to that, not saying it's a bad thing, but I'm just like... how...

[daring rivet]

They’re mostly just sitting there and idk what to do

[rain vine]

use the guam dupe to limit break

[unreal bloom]

Guys is the tirpitz event over?

[ocean terrace]

to be fair if you're not familiar with gacha games or only into games purely for aesthetics and such, it's understandable.

[peak fable]

reminds me, back in early 2000 people also just collected things for the sake of it, just that they werent anime women usually

[daring rivet]

Also I need help with another thing, my dock space is always full but I don’t if I should get rid of stuff

I have like 180 ships

[warm latch]

dock space is one of the main things you should be spending gems on

especially if youre f2p, you get dorm 3rd slot, dorm 2nd floor then everything else goes to dock space

[ocean terrace]

I mean I think everyone's played games without looking into it too much at some point in their lives, just depends if you want to take a game seriously and be efficient

[daring rivet]

Tbh, I don’t wanna have to keep going back and forth for retiring and grinding for girls I want instead of keeping ones I think I need. If I take a video of my dock will you give me suggestions?

[rain vine]

take screenshots, please dont do videos

[peak fable]

true, I'm just like the complete opposite, I treat the game as if it's a full time job with 24 hour shifts, some nights I even wake up to accept the limited commissions at 4am in the morning for max efficiency LOL
anyway, gonna stop yapping, this is a help channel :3

[viscid swift]

if you'll stop farming 3-4 with full fleets

or let me put it like this, you've wasted so much oil farming with full fleets compared to a proper low cost fleet that there's a could chance you could already have her right now had you done that from the beggining

[peak fable]

true, could have more than doubled your runs

[viscid swift]

more 3 times minimum

[peak fable]

yeah right, he used oil-inefficient hull types as well

[daring rivet]

Also i definitely wanna keep König, Karl and Köln

[ocean terrace]

Shinano 👀 Soyuz 👀

[forest palm]

expand dock

[viscid swift]

the only way to expand dock space is buy them using gems

and one of the main ways you get gems as a f2p is 3 starring main campaign stages

[ocean terrace]

maybe 3-4 is 3 starred by now

[daring rivet]

It’s been 3 starred for a long time

[warm latch]

blues and greys you can just retire, most are pretty easy to obtain, well use greys as enhance fodder

[ocean terrace]

surprising

[forest palm]

not a newbie but making horrendous mistakes like a newbie

[daring rivet]

HEY! I will say one thing though…

[warm latch]

same goes for any purple ships that are easy to obtain and arent that useful, like any you can get from guild shop excluding helena or unicorn

[daring rivet]

When I first started….I kinda thought rarity mattered- and I retired Long Island (my only CV) along with the other 2 rares and I only had Z23

[warm latch]

dont think theres any other notable guild shop purples that youd want to use right now

[viscid swift]

it doesn't

[daring rivet]

So hey, the fact I went from 1 ship to many im proud of at least that

[viscid swift]

right now, get Unicorn from the guild ship, stick her in your first fleet and just start pushing the main campaign

you're so overleveled that you shouldn't have issues for a bit

[daring rivet]

I have unicorn tho

[warm latch]

they have unicorn already, just havent been using her

and you really should get some more dock space

[viscid swift]

Trpitz, Unicorn, Enterprise, Roon, Z23, Roon Muse
get moving

[daring rivet]

I need gems

[warm latch]

so use good ships and push past 3-4

[daring rivet]

Do I make that a fleet?

[viscid swift]

and rather late but this still has some relevant tips for you
https://azurlaneecgc.com/newbie_tips/

[viscid swift]

yes

[wise cairn]

thx. I asked general at first bc answer here was taking a while, but general wasn’t clear

[daring rivet]

Well I mean, I said I’ve been grinding 3-4 but I try to progress too. It’s not like I’ve been stuck at 3-4 I just want Kaga so I’ve been grinding there for so long

[late flame]

lol asking in general

[ocean terrace]

where you at now

[daring rivet]

6-2

[wise cairn]

Help didn’t answer fast enough

[ocean terrace]

level 60 let's you push to Ch8

you wanna aim to clear Ch9 for now

[daring rivet]

Well I mean my issue isn’t power, I know I could get there I’m just lazy

I want Kaga so badly and I won’t stop grinding 3-4 till I get her

[late flame]

Kaga can wait she isn't worth it at this point in your game

[ocean terrace]

fair enough, just take the advice that they gave about the 1:1 fleet earlier

[daring rivet]

But I have Akagi

[ocean terrace]

(they really really want her) not for progression sake but for collection

[late flame]

They also both have no value outside of waifu

[ocean terrace]

exactly, they want it for waifu lmao

[viscid swift]

Farming for Akagi and/or Kaga at 3-4 is one of the worst early game mistakes.

Their drop rates are only 0.75% each; you will spend too much Oil for too little return.

Foxes (Akagi/Kaga) cost 8 Gold Bulins total (they need each other to achieve mediocre performance). Each alone is weaker than many Commons, unbalancing your fleet.

You almost always want to run Unicorn. Forcing a 3 CV fleet does not work early game due to the amount of Suicide boats present.

[daring rivet]

0.75% drop rate and yet the game gives me 3 Akagi and no Kaga. I wish one of the Akagi was a Kaga so I can finally stop grinding 3-4

[stray crane]

how u do this mission ?

[viscid swift]

just stop my dude, and come back LATER when you can grind for them efficiently

[viscid swift]

get a ship to level 100 and enhance them till max

[rain vine]

enhance a ship all the way to max

[daring rivet]

Fineee

[violet grail]

Sometimes some questions slip through the cracks when this channel is very active, can be worth just asking again if it got missed I suppose.

[jolly condor]

What ships are a priority to get from the lab

[daring rivet]

@viscid swift did you mean like this for fleet?

[late flame]

Or could be unfortunate during dead times when folks are offline

[viscid swift]

positions are a bit off but yeah

[daring rivet]

What positions?

[viscid swift]

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/gear-lab

from left to right

Roon, Z23, Roon Muse

[daring rivet]

Got it

[late flame]

+prio retrofit unicorn

[jolly condor]

@viscid swift So if you remember me you told me to get shimato, anchorage and Ägir i was wondering if that’s still the case

[daring rivet]

Wait wait wait, it costs more than it did before with my new fleet comp

[jolly condor]

I just got shimato and i’m working on agir

[viscid swift]

I would doubt that's changed

[daring rivet]

@viscid swift

[viscid swift]

the issue is?

[daring rivet]

I barely have any oil

[late flame]

Touch grass / do comms while waiting / whale

[viscid swift]

strip it down 2 to main fleets(Tirpitz and Unicorn) and one vanguard then temporariluy and push

[stray crane]

should i do it ?

[late flame]

Should you do what

[stray crane]

build her ?

If I start a new research will the progress disappear?

[late flame]

You will retain progress but there is 24 hour cooldown between switching

[eternal basalt]

Haven;t even done Data Collection 1, I don't expect that to be an issue

[late flame]

I guess no harm to build Neptune considering its unlikely he can jump to Anchorage straightaway

[stray crane]

Yeah i still need tech points for anchorage

[wise cairn]

[daring rivet]

Dang I’m sorry

[ivory sigil]

I saw this Lecture Hall topic yesterday and dunno what they do until now i finally unlock lv50. I was like holycrap how did the dev know when i reach lv50 i had ship lv100...

But yeah should i upgrade it? I only have lv99 Laffey that hasnt reach 100 yet, while the upgrade take plentys but increase coin income abit

Also should i upgrade the coin / oil storage? I dunno if they are beneficial at lv50+? Passive income is great in coin but not much on oil imo

[ocean terrace]

you'll need oil frequently no?

I ran out of oil for the first time yesterday

especially for future events and such

[atomic abyss]

Yes upgrade the storages
Income gain is not insignificant

[thin comet]

Hey, was wondering why some of the ports in operation siren are red and can't do anything while others are blue.

[rain bobcat]

because red ports are historically enemy ports

azur lane is allies which means ports like brest are historically enemy occupied territory

[soft raft]

Red ports are Axis power ports
And they only exist to be extra places for daily missions to occur

[soft raft]

I think you meant Allied occipied lol

[thin comet]

alright, thanks

[rain bobcat]

what brest is french and was a german port

it was used by german capital ships that operated in the atlantic

[soft raft]

Oh right nvm

[ivory sigil]

So, skip hall
Up coin
Up oil ?

[atomic abyss]

Up coin and oil first yes
Lecture eventually as well

[ivory sigil]

Oh jeez i thought it would give me a quick&easy retrofit item for 6-4Hard

It seem they are really start to challenge people
I seem lacking CV and BC?

[soft raft]

Yeah this is why the game is a marathon not a sprint
Your average team lvl is too low and you lack enough TRP Stat (Which is primarily from DDs)

[ivory sigil]

Guess the dev really know how to make people using 2 DDs instead of let 1 overcreeping 1 other

So which DD should i prepare... other starter? Or someone SR?
It is kinda like u never know it until u need it

[hushed sorrel]

maybe you still own exp books, but the average level needs to be 71. that level 1 and 24 ship are very low.
maybe you own equip which can boost the necessary trp

for example that one: https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Type_93_Pure_Oxygen_Torpedo (from core shop)

i cannot say how good that will be for you, i can just name possible options regardless how good they are

[ocean terrace]

could you explain a little more what that 'Airspace Control' and 'SS Detection' means and how to raise it?

I assume it's something to do with your fleets' total stats of some kind?

[atomic abyss]

In short

[ivory pawn]

ACV is based on total AVI.

You can see how much you need by tapping it.

[atomic abyss]

Airspace control is how well you control the skies

[atomic abyss]

As zenima mentioned
It's based on total avi

How much you need is dependent on the map and also less but still dependent on your AA stat

The higher your ACV, the more buffs you get

[ocean terrace]

so it's a mix of AVI and AA stats?

[atomic abyss]

Primarily avi

Outside of say W13+
Maybe W12 too
It's a non issue

[ocean terrace]

what about Recon and SS Detection (I assume it's to do with subs)

[atomic abyss]

SS detection is just asw iirc?

And recon is primarily evasion

As far as campaign is concerned
Subs don't even appear till w14-3

[ivory pawn]

SS Detection can be completely ignored until w14. Maybe a little in events, but can be solved by any DD with the Hedgehog.

[ocean terrace]

so looking at this screenshot, if it's all in red, does it just mean the enemy fleets are superior in these aspects?

[atomic abyss]

And subs in events aren't really major issues unless you're grossly under levelled
Can be fixed with a hedgehog as said

[atomic abyss]

Less they are superior
More of you'll have a bad time

[ivory pawn]

Red is just "not max". If Recon's red, you'll see ambushes from time to time.

[ocean terrace]

so it's just an indicator of fleet strength, like levels

right got it, thank you

[atomic abyss]

Yes

[ocean terrace]

I assume this is it

[atomic abyss]

Yes

[ocean terrace]

(I put it on Helena for the event since it had subs)

[rugged summit]

11-1 or 12-1?

[ivory pawn]

11-1 gives more raw exp per oil, but 12-1 can drop cog chips so it's recommended.

[atomic abyss]

12-1 is unironically easier than 11-1 tbh

[empty bluff]

does anyone know how to make purchase in region where google block the payment?

[ocean terrace]

also for Helena's retrofit skill, what do they mean by 'backmost position'

[viscid swift]

rightmost

[ocean terrace]

in the vanguard?

[atomic abyss]

Yes

[ivory pawn]

Yep.

[ocean terrace]

ah got it, ty

[ivory sigil]

lmao oil number

[ivory sigil]

so retrofit helena is also this good

[ocean terrace]

I'm only retrofitting her since I won't be replacing her anytime soon + I have resources for it

[atomic abyss]

Helena retro is good

But low priority

[ivory sigil]

is ayamani a better DDs compare to other 3starter DDs?

[atomic abyss]

It's extremely expensive for a new player

For minimal buffs

[atomic abyss]

Same level

[ocean terrace]

just to make sure, considering I won't be obtaining new ships till UR event and Unicorn is retrofitted, it's fine to retro Helena right?

[atomic abyss]

I personally would work towards getting the mats for her

I would not retro her immediately

[ocean terrace]

she's only 1 node away atm from full retro

[atomic abyss]

Better to retro something like Portland

[ocean terrace]

I have Tohka and Kurumi as my tank and off-tank, hence I thought Portland's retro isn't necessary for me

[atomic abyss]

Or spend those materials for San Diego

[ivory pawn]

If you don't have/can't get Sandy, you've retrofitted Unicorn, and you've already moved past using Portland, it's fine to retrofit Helena imo.

[ocean terrace]

where do I get San Diego from?

[ivory pawn]

Whenever your medal shop gives you the CL option, probably.

[atomic abyss]

Probably medal shop

[ocean terrace]

oh I see

[atomic abyss]

Unless you got lucky with your daily light builds

[ocean terrace]

could you remind me where I get independence from too

[proper violet]

Medal got mine there too

[atomic abyss]

Core shop for independence

[proper violet]

Pray

[ocean terrace]

I was assuming independence is my next target, rather than Sandy

[proper violet]

What you can get her???

[atomic abyss]

Independence has been in the core shop for ages now

I don't think you can even get her from build

[atomic abyss]

Both are significantly higher retrofit priorities than Helena

[proper violet]

And she is big important?

[atomic abyss]

Helena just... Doesn't gain much from retrofit

[proper violet]

What roles does she fill?

[soft raft]

Independence is pretty neat
esp after aug

[ocean terrace]

I thought so, I just haven't been able to unlock them unfortunately

[ivory pawn]

It depends on when your medal shop offers CLs tbh, and how much Core Data you have. Might want to get the cogs and a white shell for the month before Independence.

[atomic abyss]

Probably the best gold CVL in the game after Unicorn and Aquila?

Somehow they made her even more broken recently too

[proper violet]

Ight bet

[ocean terrace]

yep, I had prioritised white shells and black shells before independence

hence why I started on Helena's retrofit

also Sandy is used for her AA correct? I'm still commander level locked to Ch7 so I think she's a little far off for now

[rain bobcat]

[proper violet]

How do you get core money? Hardmode?

[ivory pawn]

Yep.

[rain bobcat]

damage and aa

[atomic abyss]

AA and top tier damage

[proper violet]

Hardmode only being 3 a day is sadge

[ivory pawn]

Good DPS with only a blue gun too.

[ocean terrace]

if my current vanguard is Tohka, Helena and Kurumi, would she replace anyone? Or is she just a good option for when I need a 2nd fleet / require more AA

[rain bobcat]

helena or just use on 2nd

[ivory pawn]

She'd probably replace Helena, but ultimately a 2nd fleet.

[atomic abyss]

In your case a second fleet

[proper violet]

Yeah helena is cool for boss tho for now

[ocean terrace]

when I do build on a 2nd fleet, is that when 1 mob fleet, 1 boss fleet is implemented (around Ch9 is what I recall)

[proper violet]

Basically, a cheaper oil fleet is w for first clears

[rain bobcat]

start leveling at ch9 but you don't actually need to use 2 fleets til like ch11-12

[ivory pawn]

It's implemented earlier, but you don't want to bother until after clearing ch9.

I found I needed a 2nd fleet to clear ch10 myself.

[rain bobcat]

first clear doesn't matter, bring all the big guns unless it's obviously too much like 20 lvls over leveled

[proper violet]

Yeah 10 I needed a second fleet, but tbf I don't even have a tank yet

Tohka is my first tank

[hollow gust]

That sounds like a tank

[rain bobcat]

tohka is a massive tank

[proper violet]

Doesn't it become cheaper after the initial first clears? Fuel cap and shi

[hollow gust]

Kurumi and Tohka is more then sufficient tank till w14. Even then ships are so op these days they will do more then fine in that too

[rain bobcat]

130-140% is much tankier than 90% of ships in the game

[proper violet]

Exactly, so my first tank being tohka kinda w

[viscid swift]

why weren't you using Portland

[ivory pawn]

After 100%, but what do you do when your cheap fleet fails to clear? You spend more oil.

[proper violet]

I was working on portland

But I was basically rdy to finish tohka

[ocean terrace]

so for the time being, I'll work on pushing campaign to W9, eventually getting retro Independence, retro Sandy and retro Portland for my 2nd fleet
(I don't think my 1st fleet will change for a while until UR event with it being Kotori, Enty, Unicorn / Tohka, Helena, Kurumi)

[proper violet]

At least to same level at portland

Def still gonna finish portland, still need the last retrofit part

Gettin it tommorow on the hard mode 100%

[spark patio]

where should i use this gun? for BB or CL?

[proper violet]

Not bb

[rain bobcat]

either

its very good as an aux but it's also fine as CL gun

[proper violet]

Is this retrofit for the skill big? And if so do I get her funny star blaster before or after skill unlock?

[atomic abyss]

Her funny star blaster is from this skill

She also has a funny star blaster from her augment

Which is more important

[proper violet]

The augment one

Do I get the augment one first then?

[atomic abyss]

She has a few funny star blasters
I would get the augment first since you don't have the 5 gold DD retro BP

[proper violet]

Tru

[rain bobcat]

augment is also recommended before even starting retrofit as well

as sandy basically doesn't actually need retrofit until w13

[proper violet]

Yeah ok

[stray crane]

how about warspite samething ?

[proper violet]

Does independence stay in core shop after refresh?

[viscid swift]

yes

[proper violet]

Thank god

[stray crane]

which one is the best ?

[proper violet]

That one

[viscid swift]

for what

[proper violet]

I mean for me, musashi

[ivory sigil]

idk someone said it is outdate and unreliable?

[viscid swift]

and this'll help give you an idea
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13YbPw3dM2eN6hr3YfVABIK9LVuCWnVZF0Zp2BGOZXc0/edit?gid=0#gid=0

[viscid swift]

even being generous to them, there's s pretty noticable difference between the top end and bottom end of UR BBs so having them all in the same tier, even if it's accurate based on their criteria is a bit misleading

[stray crane]

the new player guide said get friedrich first

[ivory sigil]

and yea i saw warsprite and was plan to getting untill someone recommend no yesterday

[stray crane]

I think the handbook gives an ur too

[viscid swift]

among the PRs and DRs that would be accurate

[ivory sigil]

in the endgame ranking list i saw warsprite in number 43

[viscid swift]

Warspite only just about makes it to the bottom end of that spectrum with her augment and is only good against bosses

[ivory sigil]

so if we pick any one from above 43 means good right

[stray crane]

I think its between new jersey and musashi ?

[viscid swift]

you do realize the order changes based on what you have it sorted by right

[ivory sigil]

they wrote "hard arbeiter", what is it?

[viscid swift]

the hard version of the arbiter boss in Operation Siren

[stray crane]

mb it shinano and new jersey

the commander handbook

[proper violet]

Eldridge is high on the list for lots of the endgame, should I get her?

[viscid swift]

ony if you have her retrofit item

[soft raft]

^

[ivory sigil]

(iirc she is DR from researchVIII)

may i ask how long have you take to get her?

[proper violet]

Not worth getting her for when I get the item?

[lofty harbor]

how do i get this retrofit item? is getting unicorn and helena retrofit item hard?

[viscid swift]

I mean you can get it in advance, it won't be available for another year though

[soft raft]

at bare mininum 7 days if you can grind fast enough
otherwise who knows

[soft raft]

Only SR->UR Retrofits and the DDG Retrofits require special items

[viscid swift]

retrofit item are only for SR to UR retrofits and the DDGs

[lofty harbor]

i see... ok thx

[proper violet]

What war archives should I go for?

[rapid shard]

Which War Archives should I do?

"I NEED IRONBLOOD TECH!!"
Divergent Chessboards

"I need to get to chapter 9 but I am only lv49 sobz"
Passionate Polaris/Universe in Unison's SP5 for Commander EXP, it is oil capped without fleet requirement

"I missed Eldridge retro item..."
Skybound Oratorio for Jeanne d'Arc

"I like PVP 🤓"
Rondo at Rainbow's End for Seydlitz

"But what about gear?"
Not worth the oil, go spend it at ongoing event or chapter 12.

@proper violet

[proper violet]

You can get eldridge retro item from war archives? O.O

[ocean terrace]

no I assume Jeanne d'Arc skill buff is similar to Eldridge's role after retrofitting her

[proper violet]

Awe

[hollow gust]

jeanne has a much worst version

[daring rivet]

I forgot, is there daily oil? Cuz uhhh

[ocean terrace]

did you redeem the weekly oil pack

[daring rivet]

Yeah

[ocean terrace]

then you gotta wait for some oil to be pumped

[proper violet]

Yeah I "wasted" my oil on money and campaign pushin

[ocean terrace]

unless you have some in storage? (mail)

[verbal plinth]

Not really wasting if your progressing

[stray crane]

i just trade oil from event

[ocean terrace]

what else would you use it on

[ocean terrace]

with event points? have you redeemed the priority stuff

[proper violet]

Event for event things

[stray crane]

yeah i got all the plates too

[proper violet]

Oil is prio

Oil means more event points

[viscid swift]

since when were the plates a priority

[ocean terrace]

very low prio

[stray crane]

ship, weapons , gear box the plates

[ocean terrace]

I'd go top to bottom, left to right in priority

[viscid swift]

that's not the order at all

[stray crane]

i dont really need cog chip rn

[viscid swift]

oh trust me, you will

[ocean terrace]

you'll need it at some point

[proper violet]

I am getting the event char, but only at the end incase I get the bi in pull

[hollow gust]

not getting arrays is trolling

[ocean terrace]

yeah that's good

but also the twins can drop in sector 6 (low chance but possible)

[proper violet]

I hate that these are event chars, I don't wanna use cubes and money, but also love potential exclusives

[ocean terrace]

I'm not sure if you're a new player or not but if you are, they're very good for starter fleets
also just good to collect them in general I guess since collabs might not get reruns

[proper violet]

Oh yeah I am, tohka gon be my tank

[ocean terrace]

Tohka, Kurumi, Yamai twins, all very decent tanks

[viscid swift]

I mean we've had almost a dozen collabs in the game's history and only 3 have rerun

[stray crane]

I kinda want the senran kagura collab

[proper violet]

All I know is, I NEED the twins, the 2 chars in dorms is cute

Dorms meta, important in gameplay help

[viscid swift]

yeah that's almost certainly not rerunning given the gacha game new link end of serviced

[ivory pawn]

I wouldn't say never, Senran Kagura isn't just a gacha game. But it's effectively never until it isn't.

[stray crane]

p

[viscid swift]

yes but it was specifically the gacha game we collabed with

[drowsy quest]

Feel stuck with this fleet/formation im on 9-1 story cant pass it, should i just grind the event? Tips to improve?

[viscid swift]

why you haven't been grinding the event this whole time is beyond me

[stray crane]

same bro. I m grinding event rn

[proper violet]

I need to grind the event, needed the coin, so did progress instead of event

[drowsy quest]

I got the collab ship from the event store/rice ball and crystal

[ocean terrace]

55k...

[viscid swift]

there's still a lot more worth grinding for than just that

[proper violet]

Also when ppl get to it, OpSi is pretty w for xp farm while clearing for cubes or crafting material

[drowsy quest]

Care to explain?

[ocean terrace]

https://azurlaneecgc.com/shop_priority/

[ivory pawn]

I wouldn't be surprised if using a level 52 ship as your main tank is dragging you down.

[viscid swift]

oil, cog chips, cog arrays, augment module cores, gold plates

among others

[ocean terrace]

by the way should I be awakening (increasing level cap) on all my ships that reach level 100?
and if so should I continuously do it when they reach level cap? or focus on specific ships, etc

[hollow gust]

10 gold plates is so hot

[proper violet]

And char only if you didn't get it, basically for me I keep the points till the end except for oil

Idk why it replied

[ocean terrace]

^^^

[daring rivet]

3-4

[soft raft]

Hell no

[ivory pawn]

If you're actively using them might as well. There's no rush if you're unsure, exp is banked up to 3m which is more than enough to reach 120 on non-UR ships.

[ocean terrace]

I assume banked exp means even if I don't awaken them, when I eventually do, it'll apply all the exp earned by the ship since it hit the level cap?

[crude basin]

hey guys should i buy type 1 ap shell from the core shop for my mlb alabama

[viscid swift]

yes

[winter yew]

I assume someone already asked this, but I can't find it... Does someone know how to get the gifts that you can give to increase affinity? (Bouquet, Antique Ornament, etc...)

[viscid swift]

Island Planner

[winter yew]

Thank you!

[ocean terrace]

is there anything useful you can obtain from the island planner?

[verbal plinth]

Just gifts

[rapid shard]

theres a very small amount of gems you can get that require a lot of grinding

[ocean terrace]

ah okay ty

[hot oriole]

Damn, my mob fleet (as well as my phone) survived 13-4 like a miracle

[gaunt ibex]

in the island planing mode, how many time we can send out the transport?

[ocean terrace]

should I be buying a wisdom cube in the daily supply shop

[rapid shard]

https://discord.com/channels/456397991847395339/1422463299877867540

[rapid shard]

If you have the coins yeah

[ocean terrace]

alright, and also I know the monthly core priority is gear, but I was also told that the cats in the limited core shop are great value? (I know cats are endgame things but wondering if I should be looking at that tab at all)

[rapid shard]

Drake is definitely worth grabbing once you've got the high priority gear first and Independence if you need her

[wind hazel]

can get it after you get 2 white shells 1 black or something

[ocean terrace]

I mean I guess she'll be useful if I don't have any UR ships and only Enty and Origami as my decent CV options, plus she gives crossfleet CV buffs or something right?

[rapid shard]

Yeah if thats your best CVs you should defintenly get her after the White/Black shells. Shes just a very good CV for the cost

[ocean terrace]

yup thank you, not like I have any other CVs to be retrofitting anyway (excluding Unicorn)

[warm cliff]

How does the F8F Bearcat fighter compare to the F7F Tigercat and the Flying Pancake?

[viscid swift]

it's got half the bombs

[covert sierra]

Is shinano usable even without limit brake?

[viscid swift]

no

[wind hazel]

for exp farming only. she sucks without limit breaks

same goes for every ships

[sweet delta]

According to my research, 0LB Shinano does a whopping 28% of MLB Enteprise's DPS

[wind hazel]

how many % of MLB Lexington DPS?

[whole crypt]

there's really no way to get decent coin besides putting the event on hold and going back to 13, is there

[wind hazel]

just do both, or quickly finish event and go back to campaign

[whole crypt]

well I need a bunch to LB the collab ships

[wind hazel]

storage?

[whole crypt]

it's at like 90k I want to keep that bank if I can just grind the coin

[weary edge]

when are they going to announce the december UR

[viscid swift]

not until less than a week before it actually drops

[weary edge]

it's gonna be late december right

[viscid swift]

yeah, I've pegged it for the 18th

[whole crypt]

same

[weary edge]

ok tyy

[whole crypt]

bah screw this I'll just do a few sets of 13 first

[eager mulch]

pegged

[whole crypt]

how many coins/run are 13-4 and 14-4 again

[tame pivot]

Just wondering.. but is this a BIS gun for any BB in particular?

[rain bobcat]

BiS for everyone against heavy and technically medium since you can only get 1 raffa gun

[tame pivot]

Was getting ready to gear up Mecklenberg since I only need 135 more prints for Dev 30 her and wasnt sure whether to just craft that and slap it on her..

OR to craft a Triple 406mm in the gear lab...

[rain bobcat]

timing matters

[ivory sigil]

Does new UR gachable?

[rain bobcat]

when you only have one you generally have to equip it on biszwei if you use her first

because meck will pull ahead too quickly otherwise

[tame pivot]

Because this is all my current UR gear and my UR gear lab resources

[ocean terrace]

are you talking about the upcoming UR event?

if it's a single UR event, gacha
if it's a double UR event, one will be shop, one will be gacha
(correct me if I'm wrong)

[ivory sigil]

Yes

[ocean terrace]

basically just pray it's a double UR event so we can get one for free (like we did with Kurumi through missions/points)

[tame pivot]

No clue what that is supposed to mean, the one thing I've yet to grasp or fully understand is stuff like timings, and enemy armor types vs your ships ammo types..

[rain bobcat]

generally, you want bis to fire before meck so she gets an extra 5% dmg

the only way to do that is to "jam" both of them or make bis have a faster gun

notice how when you give meck her meck gun and zwei no meck gun, meck will fire first and continue to fire first

its fine if meck fires first

but as you can see with the bars, she fires way too far ahead after the 2nd shot

with 3 guns, you can make lion fire first and jam both of them so they always fire near each other

[viscid swift]

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide/

[tame pivot]

So is the Triple 380mm the ideal gun for her then? or is there a better option until you get multiple meck guns?

[tame pivot]

also isnt it literally only possible to have 2 fire control tables max atm?

[rain bobcat]

can't be bothered to look for hpfcr when the table is top of the list

[rain bobcat]

either option is fine, if you want meck to have gun first then give zwei a slower gun and let someone else fire in between them, or give zwei the gun and meck a slightly fast gun like flandre to make them fire after each other

[shell sandal]

why auto search always gets turned off bruh how to turn it on forever so i can afk

[viscid swift]

have you cleared chapter 1?

[rain bobcat]

meck still pulls ahead relatively quickly though

[tame pivot]

also how much better is the Twin 76mm UR AA gun better than the Twin 40mm Bofors?..

[rain bobcat]

it's 5 extra hit and much better AA though the AA part doesn't completely matter outside of w15 BB

[tame pivot]

Wasnt sure whether to craft a 2nd Triple 406mm BB gun or a 3rd Twin 76mm AA gun based off my current ur gear & gear lab resources

[rain bobcat]

eh I wouldn't stress it and hold off, ur far off from doing meaningful progress anyway

meck gun/raffa gun is great for medium
Lion gun and NJ gun are great for light

[shell sandal]

yes im in chapter 3 now

[rain bobcat]

so unless you have 1440 gold plates or more lying around

I don't think you'll necessarily overly benefit from crafting either option

[tame pivot]

btw, are any of the PR8 ships stand out in PVP at all?

Like I finished Leeuw and got her to Dev 30, level 125 and geared her a couple of weeks ago..

[rain bobcat]

no

[tame pivot]

and meck isnt too far off being dev 30 also, just 135 more prints needed

[tame pivot]

Kinda figured, but wanted to make sure

[rain bobcat]

pvp is like, lion seyd smth with stall vanguard

[stark quiver]

i also got creamed by a meck fleet
but thats prob cuz eld decided to be a bitch

[shell sandal]

how can i level up fast

[tame pivot]

what level are you?

[shell sandal]

16 i need to be level 20

[tame pivot]

just buy the level 70 commander pack

[shell sandal]

real money?

[tame pivot]

best thing you can do for your sanity, it'll literally save you SOOOO much time

[tame pivot]

its not expensive, but yes

[shell sandal]

not expensive for someone living in a third world country like me?

[stark quiver]

dont buy it

uhm the best way to grind levels is to either play the highest stage you can in campaign
or just spam event stages since theres an event

[shell sandal]

okay thanks

[tame pivot]

I mean its a question of how much $5 means to you

id rather just spend a measly $5 and instantly be level 70 starting off and save my sanity + time tbh

[stark quiver]

5$ usd means a lot more in a third world country

so like id advice against getting it

[tame pivot]

thats why I said, it depends on how much $5 means to them

[soft raft]

What in the cringe ass AI Art is this shit bruh 💀

[tame pivot]

F if I know, I just googled AL commander pack..

[shell sandal]

if i can get kurumi without spending i would like to not spend anything

[tame pivot]

Yeahh.. I see a good bit of people using Seyditz or Royal Oak and ofc Lion. This is my pvp fleet rn, cant be bothered

[shell sandal]

i just play to collect the event characters

[stark quiver]

dont need to spend

[viscid swift]

I dunno then, running out if oil, dock is full, etc

[stark quiver]

bricked

[shell sandal]

okay

[tame pivot]

ahh, if you're just here for the event and dont know if you'll play longterm than you're fine

[rain bobcat]

vangaurd is quite cooked

[shell sandal]

if they have some like voicaloid or something event then ill play again

[tame pivot]

Yeahh, wasnt sure who to swap for who in the front tbh

[rain bobcat]

eld yukikaze laffii/jintsuuM

preferrably jintsuuM

[tame pivot]

Waiting for Laffey II still.. literally started RIGHT after her event ended... last year

[stark quiver]

nice one

[tame pivot]

She should be rerunning like first quarter next year tho pretty sure right?

[rain bobcat]

[stark quiver]

most likely

anchorage,jinstuuM/ykkz/eld

[tame pivot]

Yeah, just checked the past events and next UR rerun is Guam/Laffey II since they ran from Dec 21st 2023 - Jan 3rd 2024

[stark quiver]

youll get her soon dw

[tame pivot]

btw, who are people running as the 3rd main ship in a Bis Zwei + Meck fleet?

[rain bobcat]

lion

[sweet delta]

People aren't running Lion as the third ship in a Bisz Meck fleet. People are running Bisz and Meck in a Lion fleet.

[tame pivot]

and Bisz as the center ship right?

[heady jasper]

how worth is levelinng up my ships past lvl 100

[rain bobcat]

lion...

[viscid swift]

well W12 has level 107 to 113 enemies

[heady jasper]

okayy

so what benefit does the ship gets besides getting more dps

and do i max unicorn first orrrrr

[shell sandal]

how do i increase morale

[heady jasper]

patience

[viscid swift]

for every level your ship is above the enemy they deal 2% more damage and take 2% less damge and what stacks additively up to 50%

[shell sandal]

sad

[viscid swift]

the converse is also true if you're underleveled though

[heady jasper]

50% is a lot isnt it

[ivory pawn]

It regens passively. You can increase this by putting the ships in the dorm.

[lethal bolt]

Would like to ask, should i farm event stage or push campain first?
Only able to farm stage 1 hard currently

[shell sandal]

oh okay thanks

i have a problem my auto search always get turned off after 1 battle is it really like this?

[viscid swift]

push the campaign until you can farm area 2-5

[heady jasper]

what good is 2-5 btw?

[ivory pawn]

That means stop playing and let your ships recover their morale.

[sweet delta]

What are your fleets

[viscid swift]

by morale? yeah because if you farm with your ships at 0 morale their xp gets cut in half

[covert sierra]

Which CV/CVL should I look out on medal shop?
I'm preparing for upcoming chapters

[lethal bolt]

Whats 2-5?