gameplay-help

[drowsy quest]

Stupid question, but where or how can i read or know which ship is a light cruiser, tanks, etc?

[sweet delta]

Light cruiser is CL, can see in various places in game

Tank depends on the ships stats and skills, you can check /eHP or endgame /tierlist to find vanguard ships with high survivability

tierlist also tells you each ship's damage, AA, buff potency, etc

[drowsy quest]

On the SR what the SS and DD means? Also thanks

[knotty jolt]

SS is submarines and DD is destroyer

[novel osprey]

bros how do i change the current meta dossier

[ivory pawn]

Select a ship on the right, and tap then tap them on the left.

[drowsy quest]

Is there any other terms on formations that i need to know?

[knotty jolt]

You'll learn them in time, they're only particularly important for hard mode which already sorts by ship if it needs a required type

Just know some ships can do things others can even if they aren't the same type

[fast frigate]

how do i leave operation siren

[wise cairn]

press the house

[zinc hornet]

helloooo, who should be next to mlb? I've got enough cores for 17 more bulin so 22 total. will take me 34 bulin to mlb all my URs (except shipyard ships)

[weary gust]

Your math is off unless Musashi and Fritz aren't mlb. DR ships do not need UR bulins. I count that you need 28 total (missed I-404).

[knotty jolt]

Zwei Trafalgar and hakuhou

[ocean terrace]

I see 3* on Fritz and 6* on Musashi there

[knotty jolt]

My eyes are failing so I cant see shit on that row of ships

[ocean terrace]

everyone is 6* on the bottom row except Fritz

[zinc hornet]

sorry sorry, I'll get better images one sec

[weary gust]

I see the 3* on Fritz now that I look again. So 32. Anyways, do I404, Ulrich, and Unzen last.

[knotty jolt]

Then add fritz to that list to limit break. The rest are literally whatever cases cause you got already a good selection of other ships

[lethal violet]

for the current event, i've completed the story, but where do we get the airship upgrade modules from?

[zinc hornet]

missions

[weary gust]

Running enough stages.

[zinc hornet]

okay so zwei, fritz, trafalgar, hakuhou. thanks guys

i might do yorktown once kearsarge is maxed too just for the fun USS fleet

[weary gust]

Yorktown is pretty low on the priority list after Lion completely obliterated her niche.

[zinc hornet]

i counted hakuryuu like a fool

[zinc hornet]

rest in peace power creep

[wise cairn]

Hey she’s still peak waifu tho

[zinc hornet]

i love her design. Vanguard will forever be best ship tho

[hollow gust]

Lion obilterated everyone's niche ; no reason to run Nahkimov either

[ivory sigil]

is there anything worth for newplayer getting a priortize in these collection?
i mean what the heck is gridleyclass... another gridley?

[verbal plinth]

There's some gems worth getting

[knotty jolt]

Beaver badge

[stark quiver]

9.9% collection 💀

[soft raft]

What's the top triple BB fleet comp again?

[knotty jolt]

Iirc lion zwei Alsace

[hollow gust]

It's armor dependent

[soft raft]

Guess it would be Lion and Alscae then 3rd slot is armor dependent
BisZwei for light, Meck for heavy (tho mine isnt even D5 lol), and who would be for Med

[cloud panther]

3lions when

[rain bobcat]

lion meck zwei is the best

alsace loses horribly on med and heavy and barely wins by rougly 5% on light, no real reason to keep switching

[fleet cosmos]

Hey, maybe someone is able to give me Advice. How do I learn the basics of Fleetbuilding in this game, as a newer player. I've been playing for like 3 months now and have just been running the same stuff some people suggested me, while I could always just ask here or go by Tier Lists. I wanna atleast learn the basics for myself. not talking about learning how to minmax.
I am aware of the New Players Guide on the Azur Lane Community Tier List, but to be honest. It is very very very overwhelming for myself.

[rain bobcat]

Azur Lane Community Tier List is outdated and all tiers are mostly bogus

[viscid swift]

yeah that's the fun part, there is no good fleet building guide I could just point to for one

[violet grail]

The first things to answer are what are you fighting, what is their armour type, do they move a lot aka do you need some way to reduce speed/ stun.

Are you comfortable figuring out that much?

[uneven knot]

hey guys with my current gear what UR gear would be worth crafting in the lab?

[soft raft]

Another Wyvern

[viscid swift]

and someone just trying to explain all it all usual tends to end in a very long and sometimes incoherent rambling.....

[uneven knot]

bet hopefully i can get some ur prints after AP dump and opsi reset 🙏

[viscid swift]

but if I were to give a tldr of how the thought process goes it'd be identify what content you need to do and that how much/what kind of damage you need to do and what kind of damage you can expect to take and live through it

[fleet cosmos]

Im able to make out if enemies move fast or if im fighting 2 bosses instead of 1 and so on, only thing im not too sure about where can I check for the enemies armor type ingame ?

[viscid swift]

put together a fleet you think will work, test it, and make adjustments if necessary

[soft raft]

That's not really much of a factor
And there's no real wayto check enemy armor type besides making educated guesses off of Hulltype

And in the case of chibi ship bosses, you can just look up their wiki page since they use the same armor type as their playable versions

[violet grail]

You may have to go to wiki for armour type tho typically destroyers will be light armour, battleships heavy that sort of thing, but theres some exceptions so ye wiki.

[rain bobcat]

if it's an actual chbi ship, then the armor type is the same as the ship's armour type. I.e if you are fighting hyuuga, it's heavy armour

[royal pivot]

Is yoshino good?

[rain bobcat]

above average

[sullen dew]

I'd say mob fleets should focus on survivability and efficiency (ex. healers like Unicorn (retrofit) or Perseus are great for mob fleets. Boss fleets are a DPS check.

[soft raft]

Prob fairly decent
but if she's worth the investment or not varies on your dock

[violet grail]

Have you worked on synchronising your ships at all by the way for boss fights? Theres calculator tools out there for that sort of thing.

[fleet cosmos]

I've tried treating armor types kinda like Pokemon Types tbh, but that dosent really seem to work out ?

[soft raft]

That's a whole different can of worms 💀

[viscid swift]

no idea what that means honestley

[fleet cosmos]

oh my bad

[soft raft]

What does that even mean
unless you're meaning Hulltypes in which case a pokemon system doesnt even exist for that

[violet grail]

I mean hey he wants to learn more in depth. Just giving some leads to follow in due time. But ye all at once gonna be info overload.

[fleet cosmos]

kinda as in X is Effective against Y and Y being Effective against Z and so on

[rain bobcat]

nah

[viscid swift]

there is no such direct correlation

[rain bobcat]

that's very basic and doesn't work for half the shit

[soft raft]

yeah that's not how it works

[fleet cosmos]

yeah thats what I learned aswell

[viscid swift]

if you wanna learn to be able to read what ships are good against what, my advice would be don't

[north gorge]

Do you know how to look up the armour type modifiers for guns/planes/torps?

[fleet cosmos]

I said I want to learn basic stuff 😅 not in depth stuff

[viscid swift]

and consult the professionals on that

[violet grail]

AP type ammo against heavy and usually medium too, HE against light. But it can get more complicated I guess.

[fleet cosmos]

I do not unfortunately

[soft raft]

Yeah now you see why this shit is a rabbit hole lol

[viscid swift]

I mean it's not really

armor moddifieres are listed in game always in order of light, medium, and heavy armor

[fleet cosmos]

it really is, but I feel like constantly having to send pictures in here of my units and asking dosent really get me far and its just annoying tbh. so I atleast want to learn the basics

[viscid swift]

they're direct damage multiplers, knowing that would be a good place to start

lke so

[fleet cosmos]

ok so in this example, this gun is good against Light Armor 115 being the multiplier

[viscid swift]

yes and no

if you paruse down to DD guns you'll see this is the best DD gun against light and medium armor and tied for best againast heavy armor
https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide/

[rain bobcat]

it's a bit rough because there's 2 problems with this:

1. newer players don't know how much damage you can get away with on stages
2. newer players also don't know how much tankiness you need for stages

and one thing to note is newbie's may not be able to discern what makes a gear good or a ship good

[fleet cosmos]

while it performs slightly worse on Medium, and pretty much sucks against Heavy Armor

Is that correct looking at that gun for example ?

[fleet cosmos]

this is exactly my problem with not being able to make out, what makes a ship good or gear good
theres just sadly not any up to date resources for beginners :( hence why im here asking

[sullen dew]

ts is like a bunch of Dark Souls players debating builds but much more convoluted somehow

[viscid swift]

I'll be honest, forget about trying to learn how and just remember who

[rain bobcat]

when compared to all DD guns, it's generally got the best dps across the board is the funny thing

[viscid swift]

and one you remember the who then you can start to dip a bit into the why

[fleet cosmos]

like for example I heard, Hakuhou is great against Heavy Armor. but then somewhile ago I've been told she's great in general for me as im a newer player and I should use her if fully limit broken

[viscid swift]

I mean both aren't mutually exclusive

[fleet cosmos]

Like I've got quite a few UR ships now and also bulins to max em out, however im just not sure how to properly build a fleet with them

[viscid swift]

and context matters

[fleet cosmos]

for now I feel like first learning how to build a fleet is good enough but apperantly that already seems rough haha, and later perhaps learn what makes a gear good or bad on a certain ship

[viscid swift]

Hakuhou is one of the highest damage ships in the game against heavy armor but there's easily half a dozen ships who handily outperform her against medium and light armor

[rain bobcat]

first order you should've mlb musashi over unzen

[viscid swift]

but pretty much all those said ships are URs and we're also assuming with best gear

[fleet cosmos]

still got some bulins and can get even more haha

[viscid swift]

that doesn't quite become true when you look at a newer player's roster

[fleet cosmos]

yup makes sense

[past bear]

Pro tip, dont buy ur bulins if your not going to use them immediately

[fleet cosmos]

yeah I learned, they just use up my dock space now lmao

[rain bobcat]

mlb musashi and maybe hakuhou

[violet grail]

In terms of how priorities work, you prioritize damage first meaning main fleet over vanguard, and within that first UR priority is a BB then the CVs.

I think thats the idea in simple terms.

[fleet cosmos]

yeah I mean, if the enemy is dead they cant hurt me right?

[rain bobcat]

that doesn't really apply when the older BBs like NJ uvh are not worth prioritising

[ivory sigil]

-# You guys getting UR? 💀

[ivory sigil]

Idk what could a badge that look like furniture improve my DPS but what about other like LMB starter to get a gear?

[iron berry]

There used to be a guide where you could see the best and most recommended gear by shipgirl. It isn't anymore, right? Now I see this is what's being shared around https://azurlaneecgc.com/equipment/#fighters

[ivory sigil]

Yeah im still skeptical about spending it on 3rd dorm spot.... i need to priortize on DAL skin 1st... Does they increase price after event end? Or disappear after event end?

[viscid swift]

it'll be gone when the event ends, potentially forever

[past bear]

Collab skins vanish if event is done

[rain bobcat]

<- this is what you should be doing rn

[hollow gust]

F2p don't buy skins

[past bear]

Yet

[rain bobcat]

trust me under 400 dock is a very horrible experience

[violet grail]

To be fair my personal extent of adapting to the content so far is just switching between AP and HE main and aux guns on my Oumi battleship. Im newer than you (about 2 months) and not a lot of UR gear yet. I shouldnt really be yapping trying to give advice

[fleet cosmos]

💀

[cobalt gate]

i wonder when we getting preview for rainbow ship

[knotty jolt]

Beaver badge is an aux gear item, at +10 it provides 75HP and 35 EVA and it's unique effect it increases the speed of all ships in the fleet by 20%

[rain bobcat]

half a week after dal ends

[viscid swift]

not until the stream

[past bear]

Mid december probably

[rain bobcat]

or more

[cobalt gate]

oh still half a month then

[past bear]

UR event usually by the end of the year

[rain bobcat]

more like mid dec but its extending this time bc they fitted too many updates in november

[viscid swift]

huh

[rain bobcat]

prob last week dec it starts

[ivory sigil]

I see. I'm glad i only play for yoshino so that's one helpful thing to noticed

I would able to somewhat had her skin. Tho it look underwhelm compare to other outfit.

I really like how Kotori skin had a 🦀 that's grabbing on her bikini when you send her to dance

I really need to have at least 2000 gems till this event end... i just accidentally press 50 gems to refresh 600 oils despite i still have 10000 in mail 💀

[viscid swift]

UvH literally dropped on December 30th or something and that certainly wasn't because of too many updatethat November

[rain bobcat]

2000 gems is 100 dock btw and half of campaign

if ur planning to play for long I would unironically recommend swiping

those who use f2p gems can get hella distracted by skins and forget to replenish dock with money before they buy more skins with money

[ivory sigil]

Oops, noted.

[fleet cosmos]

So lets say Im gonna start building Musashi, she has Armor Break in her ability which probably makes her amazing? for a Boss Fleet? how do I continue on my Main Fleet? do I want to go for CVs or do I wanna go for more BBs? do people usually only run 1 BB?

also does Musashi's Armor Break work together with Ägir's Armor Break?

[knotty jolt]

tldr armor breaks are weird

Some can stack but like 90% don't

[ivory sigil]

Oops. I already sent the one i dont favor to the medal 💀 dock issue is dev intention so uhhh maybe i will swipe when i continue enlarge my dock (like.... depend on dev if they release 2nd DAL collab or not )

[viscid swift]

ok so it's not an armor break, it's damage debuff

[rain bobcat]

1. musashi is tied for best mob bsttleship but also good for boss
2. the highest debuff is applied iirc so it depends which armor break is better

[fleet cosmos]

oh my bad

[rain bobcat]

and also yeah musashi is dmg debuff

[fleet cosmos]

mob battleship ok!

[viscid swift]

not so fast

[ivory sigil]

So instead of waiting for that mystery one, i should Limitbreak someone right? Who should i do?

[rain bobcat]

Unless you have completely repulsive choices I would recommend musashi on mob but again it depends if ur other BB option is horrible or not

also you may prefer to use musashi boss if using hakuhou since haku needs 1 japanese iirc

[sullen dew]

I'd recommend reading the ships' skills on their character page

[fleet cosmos]

my other BB Option soon is gonna be FDG as im about to get her to Dev 30 soon

[knotty jolt]

ik for a fact NJ armor break stacks and that's literally all ik

[viscid swift]

there's a genaric armor break applied by BBs against heavy armor with AP guns

some other ships apply the same genearic AB through their skills, they don't stack

but there also exists unique armor breaks that stack with each other and the genaric armor break

[rain bobcat]

the non generic ones are like

fei yuen darkness NJ a few META's

the rest are all generic armour breaks that don't stack with each other

iirc generic is 8 or 10%, NJ's is 5%

[knotty jolt]

ya could work on the grey quality german cruisers of koln, konigs, and karls for leipzeg since you only need to limit break each ship 2 times for the 9 star requires

[fleet cosmos]

ok anyways, armor break aside.
do people usually only run 1 BB per fleet? or multiple? and what do you add alongside your BB (i'd imagine CVs) but might be wrong idk

[knotty jolt]

1bb 2cv for story content and for everything else it depends

[viscid swift]

campaign tends to be a BB and 2 CVs for a miltitude of reasons

[rain bobcat]

usually 1 for campaign, 0 sometimes

[viscid swift]

against single target bosses it's always whatever deals the most damage to that boss

[fleet cosmos]

a lot of the BBs probably have to be on the Flag positions to be very good right?

[rain bobcat]

for ch13 newbie's are recommended to run 3 CV mob for the reason that they lack the anti air and acv but it also depends if they have a broken UR like musashi alsace etc that make mob a breeze

[rain bobcat]

for campaign it's because they are the fattest, though yes there are many BBs that want flag

there are some that have no major benefit on flag, and there are some that have drastically lower performance when not flagged

[sullen dew]

Yep. Also for flagship I'd heavily recommend a ship with a high HP pool since if they go down, you immediately lose the battle

[viscid swift]

flag is also the best position to defend against suicide boats with an aux gun

[fleet cosmos]

hmm ok, im gonna try building a Mob Fleet, and a Boss Fleet and perhaps yall can then give me some advice if its decent or not. imma just send a screenshot in here then

gonna take a bit tho since I gotta read skills haha

[drowsy quest]

To unlock the dorm 2nd floor do i need to get all the spaces from the 1st floor or just expand my room and go straight to second floor? Im confused with this guide

[viscid swift]

just expand the floor plan of the first floor using dorm tokens

[warm cliff]

Is alsace or musashi better for mob fleets from chapters 13 to 15?

[viscid swift]

Musashi

[gusty badger]

how do I level up ships

[soft raft]

Musashi
especially if you have Aquial with her since that means she can stay healthy

[drowsy quest]

Thanks and what will happen to the first floor do the other spaces open automatically?

[soft raft]

• Dorm
• Using them in combat (The main way)
• Using XP packs (Only grindable with lvl 100+ ships outside of the occasional freebies)

[knotty jolt]

Battles, dorm snacks, XP books, commissions, etc

[gusty badger]

where is that

[soft raft]

Nah you have to pay gems for anything past the default 2
But 2nd floor will mirror the total amount of slots you have

so 3rd dorm spot + 2nd floor is enough for a full fleet

[sullen dew]

sortieing or with EXP packs

[soft raft]

Where is what
I listed 3 things and Neko listed 4

[gusty badger]

im trying to level up

[viscid swift]

yes, when you purchase more slots on the first floor

[soft raft]

what are you exactly looking for tho

[gusty badger]

i cant beat 2-1 rn

[soft raft]

Jesus christ

[gusty badger]

?

[soft raft]

that fleet is horrible as hell

[viscid swift]

I don't quite get what you're trying to do with that fleet

[gusty badger]

idk

i dont have anyone else

[soft raft]

I think this is the first time in a good while I saw someone unironically use commons outside of tech fodder

[drowsy quest]

I have 4 spaces on my first floor that should do right?

[gusty badger]

i just start playing yesterday

[soft raft]

Out of curiosity, have you given this a read? https://www.azurlaneecgc.com/newbie_tips/

[fast frigate]

anyone know when guam will get her rerun?

[viscid swift]

well if you don't know what you want to do with it why are you trying to level them up

[gusty badger]

no i dont want to read i want to do gaming

[viscid swift]

probably around January/Februrary next year

[soft raft]

Cant really estimate a firm date but here's the theoretical list

[knotty jolt]

but you've been in this server for a year+

[viscid swift]

just read the section on the guild shop and starter fleet if nothing else

[gusty badger]

im not gonna remember 27 paragraphs of words and its boring to read it

[ivory sigil]

I love the idea of how dev create azurlane so people can choose whatever team they want.

and then swipe later when they got into hard spot

@gusty badger i think the best option is head to the Guild shop
and buy a Unicorn quick
and also bring your starter purple character (Laffey / Jevalin / Z23 )

[soft raft]

that's not even how their monetization model works

[rain bobcat]

asks for help
refuses to accept help

[soft raft]

the cube to gem ratio is quite ass
the skins are the real money maker

[gusty badger]

whats that

[soft raft]

Just give the newbie guide a read pls on god

[viscid swift]

ahem

[gusty badger]

i dont wanna read for 2 hours

[forest palm]

that is just fuckin hilarious cause there is 0 P2W in this game

[viscid swift]

just those 2 sections are 2 paragraphs of reading if that

[ivory sigil]

i mean i just start yesterweek too and that one only took 2-5 mins to read so...

[ivory sigil]

a solution for 2-1 and future

[viscid swift]

if it weren't for the pictures I coudld fit it all into one screen shot

[soft raft]

Honestly didnt really want to spoonfeed this badly but fine if you keep insisting

[ivory sigil]

yeah just read this picture and you get understanding ^

[stark quiver]

this channel made or spoonfeeding

[ivory sigil]

ooh oh i know the problem

[forest palm]

last person that insisted being spoonfed everything was ejected from this chat

[stark quiver]

huh

oh

[soft raft]

What even was his name again lol, Berke?

[gusty badger]

whats the difference between red and blue guild

[forest palm]

[stark quiver]

none

[soft raft]

LMAO YEAH

[viscid swift]

nothing other than a visual difference

[knotty jolt]

racism

[ivory sigil]

@gusty badger it is recommend for a newplayer to repeatly fighting 1 map that around 1-1 to 1-4 to make your ally increase level to like 10 or 20

and then you should able to fight 2-1

samething happen to me in my 1st day too

ideally summary you need lv10-20 for 2-1
and lv20-lv40 for 3-1
and lv40-lv60 for 4-1
lv60-lv80 for 6-1 etc etc

[knotty jolt]

oh fuck wrong @

[viscid swift]

and you don't need to be in a guild to access the guild shop

[warm cliff]

Any recommendations on what UR to limit break next (I’ve got 6 UR bullins)?

Non mlb UR’s: Musashi, Lion, Unzen, Shimano, Hakuhou, NJ, UWH, Implacable, Mogador, Fritz, Raffaello, Trafalgar, Kronshtadt, Shimakaze

MLB UR’s (outside of my fleet): Vanguard

Mob:
Alsace (will swap to Musashi)
Unicorn
Aquila

Friedrich Carl (Gonna get dev 30 Agir soon if that helps)
Plymouth
Eldridge (retrofitted)

Boss:
Soyuz
Essex (retrofitted)
Yorktown II

Anchorage
Z52
San Diego (retrofitted)

[soft raft]

Wat is that fleet for?

[forest palm]

Lion and then sit till next new UR

[astral basin]

can anyone here teach me how to read?

[warm cliff]

Chap 13-15

[rain bobcat]

lion

[soft raft]

also you could've just done a screenshot of your URs

[viscid swift]

are all non MLB URs at 0 limit break or?

[fleet cosmos]

is there a difference I should be aware of when putting a main ship into the upper or lower position ?

[viscid swift]

read what?

[fleet cosmos]

or is that too map specific ?

[soft raft]

no not really

[warm cliff]

Yeah, only Shinano is like 5 starts and NJ is 4. The rest are 0 limit break

[rain bobcat]

when 2 ships load airstrike/salvo at the same time,the top ship fires first that's it

[astral basin]

just making a yolk

[viscid swift]

well Lion next without question

[forest palm]

main fleet position doesn't matter outside of MVP and if CVs/BBs launch at that same time

[viscid swift]

a what

[rain bobcat]

flag>top>bot if launch at the same time

[astral basin]

joke

[soft raft]

That was supposed to be a joke? 💀

[warm cliff]

Alright! Which ship would lion replace?

[astral basin]

i guess it must be hard to tell when there are ppl who say that huh

[viscid swift]

Yorktown 2 I guess

[ivory sigil]

@gusty badger here is how you can buy unicorn

But now if you want to buy Helena just press the Blue hair one on the 1st of the list

[soft raft]

would that be really be a good idea in plane hell tho

[viscid swift]

oh chapter 13 to 15

[rain bobcat]

postpone plane hell

[soft raft]

yeah in that case Soyuz would prob get the boot

[viscid swift]

I gotta ask then is that Plymouth dev 30

[warm cliff]

Yes

[ivory sigil]

damn i got extra unicorn what should i do now XD

[soft raft]

limit break the other one with it
otherwise just scrap it

[viscid swift]

you'd make it through W13 and 14 without issue, you'd have some issues in W15

and Lion woukd replace Soyuz then

[warm cliff]

Ahhh alright then

[viscid swift]

and that's assuming everything is geared right

[gusty badger]

but iI have to use 2 fleets

[soft raft]

What
No you dont

[gusty badger]

for 2-1 to I have to use 2 fleets

[soft raft]

You do not
they simply just give you The option to use 2 fleets

[gusty badger]

okay

i want to finish the date a live events

[soft raft]

I was able to single fleet all the way up to W12 but realistically you should start working on a 2nd fleet at around W9

[viscid swift]

you can fight without ammo

[gusty badger]

so im trying to do progress

[spice phoenix]

how good is zeven for aa focus on endgame content? (i’m trying to find options for w13 hard mode)

[viscid swift]

one of the best AA ships in the game

[rain bobcat]

not bad

[soft raft]

#al-general is that way

[rain bobcat]

random memes and gifs are prohibited here

[tiny kindle]

bruh

[soft raft]

Literally one of the rules for this channel (which are in the pins) so

[stark quiver]

nobody checks the pins

[tiny kindle]

[ivory sigil]

@gusty badger the best way to progress:

Click in 1-1, repeated sortie x5, press start
sit down, grab coffee, watch youtube
comeback later, see your fleet reach lv10-20
play 2-1

literally me

[cobalt rampart]

is there a way to prevent main ship damage? i feel like they keep dying so early to planes i think and ends the mission

im stuck on 4-4 and cant beat the boss

also is there a best way to level ships early? and commander xp. ive read some beginner guides but couldnt find an answer unless i missed it

[soft raft]

Putting a few limit breaks on Pennsylvania would definetly help alot

[ivory sigil]

4-4 should have a lv between 50-60

please press repeated sortie x5 on lower map, press start
sit down, grab coffee, watch youtube
comeback later, see your fleet reach that lvl
play that 4-4

[viscid swift]

well limit breaking your ships would help for one

[cobalt rampart]

are the bullins common enough i can use on them?

[lofty harbor]

which one

[viscid swift]

purples yeah

[soft raft]

Honestly can you just stop with that
idk if that's even gonna help him much

[lofty harbor]

reset?

[viscid swift]

I personally wouldn't prioritize the Yamai sisters, I'd rather use Helena

[rain bobcat]

this or reset

[lofty harbor]

ok thx

[lofty harbor]

gold one?

[soft raft]

Hell no

[ivory sigil]

it is a solution for casual player

for swipe player they would swipe swipe and limitbreak gear etc etc

and yeah if he is a tryhard player then you guys help better than me tho

[cobalt rampart]

i was using helena but the sisters do so much damage, i can try switching bsck anf see

[soft raft]

Like I said, that is nowhere close to how this game's monetization model works.....

[lofty harbor]

aight

[rain bobcat]

that's quite unlucky that you reset from a g1.5 to another one but

[soft raft]

/research give this a look too

[odd root]

credit: Newbie#1553 and Lunar#7777 https://i.imgur.com/wGQkqJk.jpg

[knotty jolt]

TL;DR why do one 12 hours for small rewards when you can do 12 one hours for more rewards

[ivory sigil]

im newbie so i just gonna stick with comms and nothing there is no way i have more than 2000+ gold a day

[rain bobcat]

[lofty harbor]

[knotty jolt]

at that point do Q/Rigging analysis for gear cause gear is half the battle

[ivory sigil]

will do when i had it abundance

[lofty harbor]

which one?

[knotty jolt]

show skills

[fleet cosmos]

ok so I looked through the skills, and am currently trying to build a mob fleet. I use Unicorn for Surviveability, Musashi seems very good from what people wrote and her skills seem decent. and Hakuhou as another CV which works due to Musashi also being an Japanese Ship. Unzen seems nice as a Tank ship due to her shield that she can apply to herself, and I saw that she has an All out assault which is supposed to be pretty good ?

Now, I am struggeling on. what else do I add, what would be good additions? should I look for more Anti Air in this? The plan is to go from 13-1 to hopefully chapter 15

[rain bobcat]

some AA for one

[viscid swift]

you are now where close to being able to tackle W15

[rain bobcat]

unzen will work on 13 and 14 but hell no for 15

[soft raft]

W14 also is very different from W13 and W15 is a mix of both W14 and 13

[viscid swift]

and Unzen is a bit tankier than Portland but you'll someone tankier for W14 and W15 to main tank

[soft raft]

IE you are currently working on a fool's errand

[knotty jolt]

at your point in time just use both, a garbage SR cat is better then no cat

[atomic abyss]

...does that comp even clear 13 as is?

[viscid swift]

well not as is

[fleet cosmos]

so a CB it is

[soft raft]

with more AA maybe

[viscid swift]

not necessarily

[atomic abyss]

I would put off 13 for the foreseeable future

[lofty harbor]

I see... so my cat is garbage

[knotty jolt]

Perfect cats can cost million of coins in order to obtain and tens of thousand of cat boxes

[fleet cosmos]

fleet building is hard

[warm cliff]

Any good recommendations? Is Anchorage and Agir good enough?

[rain bobcat]

what you started on works for 13 definitely if you add more AA

[viscid swift]

for W14 yeah, I'd ships with better AA for W15 though ideally

[fleet cosmos]

im close to having San Diego Retrofitted, she should be enough for AA ?

[rain bobcat]

14 will be a bit of a far fetched story

[knotty jolt]

As much of a god of AA sandy is, even she can't solo w13 alone

[viscid swift]

well she can

[rain bobcat]

technically but now you also will lack AA on boss which is brutal for newer players

[viscid swift]

but you'd also want her in the boss fleet

there's a reason why the usual W13 mob fleet consist of 3 CVs

[atomic abyss]

Sandy can carry W13 AA assuming you're already fully laden with carriers on the mobs
And you're using at least decent frontliners

[knotty jolt]

i cleared w13 using a dumb strat called, outhealing the enemy with perseus and unicorn cause i was dumb at the time

[ocean terrace]

do exercises/pvp deplete morale?

[knotty jolt]

I'm pretty sure they don't

[warm cliff]

Yeah, I don't have Guam, Laffey II or De Zeven...

Should I aim to get Shimanto?

[viscid swift]

try giving this a look through then
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13YbPw3dM2eN6hr3YfVABIK9LVuCWnVZF0Zp2BGOZXc0/edit

[olive urchin]

How do you complete the mission to get zafkiel for kurumi?

[soft raft]

should be just grind [X amount] of event points

I wouldnt know the exact amount because I didnt need to do that mission to get it

[fleet cosmos]

ok I swapped out Musashi in the mob fleet, for Shinano however Shinano requires me to atleast 3 Sakura Empire Ships. so I probably should keep Unzen in there? (I've attached a pic of my Sakura Empire ships)

[viscid swift]

just start a thread and post your dock at this point

[ivory sigil]

wait having a B score on a hard map give 0 items for retrofit ????

[hollow gust]

It's RNG

[atomic abyss]

The moment you don't get S on a boss node
You have a chance to lose any "guaranteed" drops such as a ship drop

So for hard mode maps
You may not get the retrofit BPs yes

Tldr, don't fuck up the boss node no matter what you do

[ivory sigil]

i regret trying all-ship-clear

[rain bobcat]

when you have that skill it always includes the ship itself unless stated otherwise

[ocean terrace]

if you're trying to 3*, you need it

[rain bobcat]

so 2 ships OUTSIDE of shinano contributed to 3 total

[rapid shard]

@rain bobcat have you got to JBs Springlight and NCs Bunny skin interactions by chance yet?

[ivory sigil]

i want to do it later instead, im priortizing on retrofit unicorn and i keep messing up
it is 7th day already and i still cant retrofit her

[ocean terrace]

you looking for purple bp or gold?, I'm very close to retrofitting unicorn too

[rapid shard]

This game is a marathon not a sprint. No need to rush it unless your trying to do some kind of personal challenge on clearing up to some point.

[lofty harbor]

only gold bulin worth it here yeah?

[gusty badger]

apart from doing battle how else should i progress inside the game

i want to finish date a live collab but I m only level 13 now

[atomic abyss]

In most cases yes
You may want to pick up Eldridge at some point if she appears though

[rapid shard]

Yes. Eldridge is worth priority grab only if you have her retro item

[atomic abyss]

That's... Pretty much the only way

[lofty harbor]

ok thx all

[gusty badger]

so keep doing battle ? I have 20000 oil

[atomic abyss]

It's a grindy game
The best way to get levels early on is by pushing higher maps

Yes

So maybe see if you can do the lowest level event map first

[gusty badger]

when should i stop doing battle and o the collab

[atomic abyss]

The collab is also battles too tho

[ivory sigil]

bruh i finally got S now but they dont even give Golden retrofit despite im doing the Golden map

[rain bobcat]

not yet, but me and @tiny mason will finish all skins before dec UR hopefully

[gusty badger]

i want to make sure to do it before the time runs out

[atomic abyss]

I would try once your ships hit like level 30?

[atomic abyss]

Because the drop rate is abysmal lmao

[rain bobcat]

for JB you press on her and 5 moons appear its a menu

[ocean terrace]

it's only a chance up to gold, not guaranteed

[atomic abyss]

It's not a guaranteed gold BP

[gusty badger]

also i got this is this good

[ocean terrace]

for you yes

[atomic abyss]

Well, for a new player yes

[gusty badger]

okay

[gusty badger]

can i join brat hunting lair

[ivory sigil]

yeah you can somewhat putting Unicorn and Kotori, you can put like Origami if u got her or just stick with yoshino for now

[rapid shard]

If you 3 star the map (Full clear and set # of mob fights) you get 2 gold retro items for each hard mode. So for unicorn they need to be X-4 hard mode maps. Only W3 and up have gold drops

[gusty badger]

is there story in collab event

[atomic abyss]

Yes

[gusty badger]

is it a lot

[knotty jolt]

you can skip it all if you want

[lofty harbor]

lets say i got shinano... how do i even lb her. i have no ur bulin

[sweet delta]

that's the neat part, you don't lb her

[atomic abyss]

You don't

[sweet delta]

save UR bulins for newers

[lofty harbor]

[atomic abyss]

You keep her till you get enough dupes to limit break her

UR bulins for limited URs almost always

[sweet delta]

https://azurlaneecgc.com/common_resource/#/Specialized_Bulin_Custom_MKIII

[lofty harbor]

won't she be weaker compared to MLB SR then?

[sweet delta]

yeah so you don't use her

[atomic abyss]

You're absolutely right
So don't use her

Most URs are just flat out weaker than a good or even okay SR if not MLB

[lofty harbor]

UR ship sound sht then

[atomic abyss]

Considering that they're far ahead of SRs when MLB though

The whole thing is a task in prioritising

[soft raft]

More like it's pointless to partially invest in URs when UR Bullins are relatively way more slower to get than the other two bullins

It's either MLB or bust when the chances of a new UR that would be higher priority is not zero and has happened quite a bit

and in the case of perament URs, the bullins would be better prioritized on non-perament ones in most scenarios

[hollow gust]

cause you are poor as fuck

[lofty harbor]

[ocean terrace]

I mean it's the same concept as Rare/Elite to SR ships
they recommend using Helena, Portland, etc because you can mlb them easily even if you have SR ships
why wouldn't UR ships be the same

[wintry talon]

Soooo I missed getting essex retofit thingy… is there another way of getting it or I’m just fucked

[sweet delta]

you can wait for its rerun in possibly 9 months

it appears that tohka, kaguyuzu, kurumi, and origami are high gold or low rainbow level

[ocean terrace]

fantastic for new players :D

[drowsy quest]

I did the expansion on my dorm for 100 tokens, do i need to do it again to get the 2nd floor?

[soft raft]

you have to fully expand the 1st floor

[ivory pawn]

3 times total I think, with an increasing cost each time. Maybe 4, there's a dotted line you need to reach.

[rapid shard]

Yes keep expanding till you cant then unlock 2nd floor

[drowsy quest]

Farming time

[rain bobcat]

expand til 3 total slots then unlock 2nd floor

[rapid shard]

Out of perm URs all are MLB minus Kron UvH and Vanguard. Is Van next priority?

[soft raft]

Yes

[rain vine]

yes

[rapid shard]

Thanks. Who is the next expected addition to perm pool?

I know its gonna be a min just curious

[viscid swift]

Yorktown 2 I think

[ivory pawn]

I also think York2.

[soft raft]

Yeah

[rapid shard]

Thanks, I had a pretty old version of that and been looking for updated one.

[soft raft]

Out of curiosity, how old was it lol

[rapid shard]

~~ the one i saved was last updated in August lol not super old but not up to date~~

[soft raft]

lol

[tight yarrow]

what the stage to farm in event?

[soft raft]

6

[tight yarrow]

tks

[pallid wind]

5 tohkas in a row 😭😭 does it ever stop or does percentage never change when pulling

[viscid swift]

rates will remain the same

[covert sierra]

Which one to pick?

[viscid swift]

Musashi

[clear harbor]

If I’m working on Shinano, I just keep grabbing her for MLB, then reassess when that’s done?

[sweet delta]

since you have lion and bisz, i would say yes

[ivory sigil]

what does the % even mean if i already 3 star it...

[covert sierra]

Which one should I prioritize first?

[sweet delta]

How many UR bulins did you have?

[soft raft]

that means you have a fleet currently in a sortie on that map

[sweet delta]

Kill the boss more for 100%

[covert sierra]

3 I could buy 1 more

[soft raft]

oh I was looking at the wrong portion whoops

[ivory sigil]

i already kill the boss twice and got 0 gold retrofit stuff
so the thrice should give right cuz it gonna be 100%?

[soft raft]

Yes

[sweet delta]

Ok then I guess you can use them on Musashi and start with the first two skills

[drowsy quest]

Does the island planer give rewards to the regular game?

[ivory sigil]

WOW i mean i've been focusing on Touka + Kotori + yoshino + kurumi, abit ditching on Origami, didnt know she were this good

i think i will continue her + Yamai after i done built my unicorn and laffey

[rain vine]

if you spend a very long time grinding, you can eventually get gems

[drowsy quest]

RNG?

[rain vine]

no, but it just takes a really long time to get them

[drowsy quest]

Thanks, ill leave it alone for now

[ivory sigil]

which cat i choose for this team ?

[near cargo]

How much rainbow book needed to get 1 skill to lvl 10?

[drowsy quest]

Does project identity rewards in the same way? With gems?

[rustic adder]

whats the current maximumn fleet tech number? im at 44703 and not sure if im missing anyone

[rustic adder]

you can set TB as a secretary if u finish it

[sweet delta]

Please use pictures, not videos

[wheat trail]

I've been wondering, are you able to limit break the Collab characters without needing their copies?

[rustic adder]

yes with gold bulins

[viscid swift]

bullins exist and are decently plentiful in this game

[rain vine]

no, you get secretary and a few cosmetic things

[wheat trail]

Ahh good to know

[lofty harbor]

can i do world 15 without any UR ship?

[rustic adder]

yes

[wheat trail]

Alright thank you, I'll probably have to look for another way getting them since I've ran out 💔

[lofty harbor]

is that to me?

[sweet delta]

You can't, but I can

[viscid swift]

yeah this is why you don't level 6 SRs when you're new

[lofty harbor]

i guess it the tech things that buff your ship overall yeah?

[wheat trail]

What other ways can you get bullins other than doing campaign missions?

[lofty harbor]

shop, daily login

[wheat trail]

I see

[viscid swift]

merit shop, you get one from weekly mssions and 2 from the medal shop every month

[lofty harbor]

but tbh R bulin is plenty. i rise random ship and still have some

[viscid swift]

they're not plentiful enough to level 6 SRs at once

[lofty harbor]

R bulin, not SR. typo

[ocean terrace]

(I want more SR Bulins)

[wheat trail]

I see, well I'm gonna have a mess trying to look for bulins then 💔

[lofty harbor]

i only have like 8 SR bulins now

[wheat trail]

Wasted alot 🙏

[wheat trail]

1 🙏 (The rest went somewhere else)

[lofty harbor]

damn...

[viscid swift]

the solution at that point would be not to level SR ships and use elites instead

[lofty harbor]

btw who even worth using my SR bulins for?
currently I'm only raising Kurumi and Twin because they are farmable

Tohka worth it?

[ivory sigil]

U just say u are new player and now u are doing chapter 15??? Bruh i thought that could take someone from 1 year in AZ to play

[ember trout]

Just came back to the game and wanted to play it more seriously than I used to. First thing I wanted to do is making functional fleets and not just whatever I think it's good. Can someone give me some things to have in mind? I can show my dock if needed

[wheat trail]

the only elite I mostly use

[lofty harbor]

I'm just asking and curious. I'm still on W6

[lofty harbor]

same

[viscid swift]

well 0/10 points for not using Unicorn then

[wheat trail]

😔

[wheat trail]

[viscid swift]

best healer in the game and you can get her day 1

https://azurlaneecgc.com/newbie_tips/#guild_shop

[wheat trail]

oh

[lofty harbor]

anyone? or should i just safe my SR bulins? honestly it is taking my dock space

[viscid swift]

no idea what you have, how many SR Bullins you've got

[lofty harbor]

8 now

[mossy void]

Is the purple Twin 120mm (Model 1936) better than the gold Twin 127mm (5"/38 Mk 38) for subs now?

[viscid swift]

no it's a complete wash

[sweet delta]

They're the same

[lofty harbor]

my only notable SR is just from the date alive

[mossy void]

Interesting... got that from here

[viscid swift]

I mean sure invest in Tohka then

[ivory sigil]

But yeah i been using SR bulin into Each of them i use 1 SR BULIN But yeah dont build all 6 SR bro, Kurumi and Yamai need pts in DAL event so just stick with 3 or 4 SR and then build other 2 later

[viscid swift]

it literally just says check skill requirements

[soft raft]

Exceedingly common EN moment

[ivory sigil]

Full dock space?

[mossy void]

But I mean even with that info, it was just said its th3 same / complete wash

[lofty harbor]

i still have like 30 free space. but kinda tight

[viscid swift]

on there own they are

the reason why the Italian gun is there because it does proc a requirement for Da Vinci who wants a piece of Italian gear

at which point it is superior, but without that it's a wash

[ivory sigil]

if u are casual player, i suggest just toss away some R or E that u dont favor
if u are swipe player, yeah use gem to expand
if u are longterm then you can do both but abit balance between 2

[mossy void]

So shouldn't it just say da Vinci instead of that lol

[viscid swift]

no because that isn't a recc just for Da Vinci

[mossy void]

I meant if its only for 2 ships then just name them. If its quite a few then no

[viscid swift]

the guide is not reccomending the gun itself, it's reccomend the idea written in words with the gun being an if you know, you knwo example

[viscid swift]

you're not getting it are you

[sharp socket]

if they arent easily reobtainable dont scrap

[viscid swift]

the recc is if there's a requirement you can proc using the aux gun slot on your subs then use the aux gun slot to proc it

otherwise it doesn't matter

[viscid swift]

well you should limit break any ship you're using

and now you're seeing why it wasn't a good idea to invext in so many SRs at once

[ivory sigil]

Just use those bulin @lofty harbor

-You play game. Dont let game play you. -sun tzu-

[soft raft]

[ivory sigil]

You would get those bulin back like several months later

[ivory sigil]

I'm not collectionist.
If i were collectionist i would play AZ since 2017, not 2025

[viscid swift]

huh

[ocean terrace]

I think you'd want to play the game early as possible, no matter what your goal is

[viscid swift]

you can start playing a game after launch and still be a completionist

I didn't start until late 2020

[drowsy quest]

Is yoshino good? Compare to unicorn ?

[ocean terrace]

I bring great news, I've mlb Kurumi and Enterprise now

[onyx flame]

worse than unicorn

[rapid shard]

Uni is best healer in game, any other healer is just competing for 2nd place or lower.

[drowsy quest]

Thanks

[zinc prairie]

Is oath-ship necessary for stats boost or should i oath my fav ship?

[rapid shard]

Unless your gonna buy a shitton of rings just oath your favorites. Oathing for just stats isnt really worth it

[soft raft]

Tatical oathing is a complete and utter myth for F2P

[ocean terrace]

would Uni + Enty + Kotori be superior to Warspite + Uni + Kotori? (considering I'm still focusing on 1 fleet)

all MLB

[onyx flame]

imo yea

[soft raft]

Is this pre or post retrofit Warspite we're talking about here

[ocean terrace]

pre, everyone told me it's not worth retrofitting her

[onyx flame]

they got that new tag on their username i doubt its post

[soft raft]

Kotoro/Uni/Enterprise

[ocean terrace]

got it thank you, also I assume I should prioritise the better planes on Enty? what about aux?

[stark quiver]

how are the DAL ships, because within this channel i hear a lot of x ships are pretty good and the same ships being collection tier

[soft raft]

Yeah since she has higher damage
Steam catapults on all slots
Ideally gold but purple is fine for the time being

[onyx flame]

can either use purple cata or purple aviation oil tank for budget, think you want to leave them at +6 max while you fish for gold cata to replace

[rapid shard]

All the vanguards are looking like high gold/possibly low rainbow level according to Suchis testing i seen eariler. Tohka is really good for a gold according to his vid. Main fleets still being tested

[stark quiver]

not collection tier

[ocean terrace]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13YbPw3dM2eN6hr3YfVABIK9LVuCWnVZF0Zp2BGOZXc0/edit?gid=992971658#gid=992971658

[rapid shard]

#gameplay-help message

[ocean terrace]

everyone's on that sheet, they just updated it to add Kurumi and the twins

[rapid shard]

Here's suchis post from earlier @stark quiver

[ocean terrace]

twins looks good

[rapid shard]

He did a YouTube vid on Tohka and shes on par with with Bayard FS5 (i think it was her could have gotten her mixed up)

[ocean terrace]

would you say using all 3 DAL vanguard ships is better or using Tohka/Kurumi (or a different combo) with Helena is better?

[rapid shard]

Personally probably not. You want some kind of support in your vanguard to boost your main fleet dmg since thats where majority of your dmg comes from (Helena, Sirius, Kazagumo etc) depends on what the fleet is being used for

[fast frigate]

is grinding sector 6 the best way to get suppllies?

[rapid shard]

What do you mean by supplies?

[ocean terrace]

yeah makes sense, also should I be upgrading the red skill on Kurumi, Kotori and Tohka? or are there more prioritised skills

[soft raft]

You should be upgrading all the skills in the end anyway

[fast frigate]

like the new date a live map event

[abstract nimbus]

hey so i claimed the oil from the mail and it didnt increase my oil from its current amount?

[wind hazel]

it's in your mail storage

[rapid shard]

If you plan on using them get all 3 skills up to lv5ish and work on maxing them 1 by 1

[ocean terrace]

is that how I should approach all future ship skills? to level 5 then maxing 1 by 1
I've been maxing them 1 by 1 from the start so

[abstract nimbus]

oh i see ty

[rapid shard]

not enough red lines

[wheat trail]

add more circles and arrow 🙏

[wind hazel]

honestly it doesn't really make any significant difference, just level them lol

[ocean terrace]

alright ty

[rapid shard]

thats just personally how I upgrade the ships I use. Eventually you'll have them all maxed regardless

[weary gust]

At the very start of the game you should, because you can get skills to level 5 very quickly and can get your overall fleet strength up quickly, but once you have a fully functioning fleet it doesn't matter for later ships.

[ocean terrace]

yeah makes sense, thank you

[wind hazel]

it also depends on the ship sometimes. eg Unicorn, you wanna max the healing before the rld skill. or ship with barrage that is important for their damage, like most UR ships. you can ignore their crossfleet until later on, so on so forth

but in the end if you're raising their skills for farming, then it really makes little difference in the end, as long as you can safely farm

[rain bobcat]

its quite easy to level all to 6 first before doing one at a time

[wind hazel]

i do lv4, double gold book then max 1 by 1

it actually takes quite a while to reach beyond lv5 lol

[ocean terrace]

there's no disadvantage to sending 2 fleets to battle right? as long as I only use 1 fleet to actually engage which uses oil

[rapid shard]

Any of these worth limit breaking and using or just tech ships? Gonna be working on Napoli

[onyx flame]

Yea

Your 2nd fleet doesnt have to engage with any battles, you can simply have it as a stat stick for stat reqs if you have too

[wind hazel]

just tech, maybe Kirov if you're into 1strike stuff, but kirovmeta works as well

[onyx flame]

Duca has fp tech iirc but the rest you have to check what lvl 120 tech they give

[stark quiver]

i think they are a bit far from that

[wind hazel]

better start early than late

kirov herself is nice tech isnt it, 2fp or something, or 1

its 2 pog

[rapid shard]

Ive have some of the ships to make a 1 strike comp but lack tech and some gear. Just working at tech atm and knocking out some PRs/DRs

[stark quiver]

You lack many tech

[wind hazel]

sez u

[stark quiver]

i dont lack oaths tho

[wind hazel]

p2w game

[rapid shard]

Slowly increasing tho lol but looks like Kirov and 2 more randoms

[stark quiver]

p2l

[rapid shard]

I think im around 30ish oaths now...

[ocean pilot]

if i level up ship until 120 and get bonus stat, can i remove it from dock? or i must keep it?

[atomic abyss]

You can remove it if you so desire
No penalty

[stark quiver]

Might be more than me

[atomic abyss]

Tech is more a milestone system

[wind hazel]

inb4 random retrofit and become meta

[stark quiver]

wtf i have 2 ship named kimocheese

[rapid shard]

You got me beat by a couple

[ocean pilot]

ah thanks, what im looking for is bonus stat like aircraft, torpedo etc. i just need to MLB

[atomic abyss]

Uh what

As in your ships need to be MLB to receive the tech bonuses?
Yes

[ocean pilot]

i remember when i upgrade ships, it will gives global buff to all ships

[wind hazel]

that's only obtain and lv120

[atomic abyss]

I feel like you're confusing 2 very different things

[ocean pilot]

yeah, mb

[wind hazel]

mlb gives nothing other than faction tech, and the ship itself will receive the fleet tech bonuses

[ocean pilot]

so AVI buff only applies to nakhimov (based on this pic)? not to all CV?
so need to get new ships + max level

[eternal moth]

AVI from fleet tech applies to all your CVs

Same for all fleet tech, it applies to all ships in whatever class it says it affects.

[pallid wind]

Is there a ur exchange tier list to
Follow?

[eternal moth]

Musashi > Shinano > NJ

[wind hazel]

musashi>vanguard/shinano>nj/uvh>kron>shimakaze

[eternal moth]

Oh right, Vanguard is available. I forgot about that.

[pallid wind]

What’s vanguard?

[wind hazel]

/wiki HMS Vanguard

[odd root]

No wiki pages found.

[bleak junco]

Whatttt

[eternal moth]

Vanguard is a battleship

[wind hazel]

wow, vanguard doesnt exist

[bleak junco]

Vanguard is not real guys

[eternal moth]

/wiki vanguard

[wind hazel]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Vanguard

[pallid wind]

💀😭✌️

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

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Nov 24, 2025, 4:52 AM

[pallid wind]

Thx for the help twin

[stark quiver]

Are u max tech

[whole crypt]

lionbismeck what should sync look like with 2 meck guns

[sinful nymph]

How do i do that quest?

[eternal moth]

Did you do every stage?

[soft raft]

that's the one locked behind S6's % bar

[ocean terrace]

just a reminder, no ammo means 50% reduced damage from my fleet right?

[sinful nymph]

I believe so

[noble pawn]

I'm lacking airship upgrade (not maxed) is it timegated?

[eternal moth]

No, I finished it today.

[north gorge]

You have to do all the quests that give the upgrade tokens

[noble pawn]

Oh right

[sinful nymph]

Oooh I see

[noble pawn]

I haven't spend any in the shop

[sinful nymph]

Thanks hun

[ivory sigil]

wait does that mean if i built helena instead of laffey i would get better result?

(assuming they are same lvl)

[rapid shard]

They have different roles. For starters you shouldn't be using most of those ships because they are far from MLB

[ivory sigil]

oh no I keep collect SR bulin in newcomer handbook reward without remembering that they're filling up my dock 💀 @lofty harbor maybe postpone receiving them ?

[ocean terrace]

I haven't had an issue with dock space yet so that's interesting (as a new player)

[rapid shard]

I willing to bet you have a bunch of common dupes filling up your dock. Use the commons to enhance your ships

[ivory sigil]

HUH i buy white shell but i can't using it on laffey???

[rapid shard]

White shell is a BB aux...

Laffey is a DD

[cobalt robin]

laff is a bb

[ocean terrace]

unicorn is my favourite tank vanguard

[noble pawn]

Helena is S-tier SSV

[ivory sigil]

so i can ditch a heal box and put both shell right? nice i hope she can deal great dmg vs laffey now

[ocean terrace]

I think Kotori has a self heal skill anyway so yeah, always prioritise FP

[rapid shard]

Check your inventory for this. If you have it use this and white shell.

[ivory sigil]

no i dont have it, which techbox it open?

[ocean terrace]

Eagle Union

[rapid shard]

Eagle Union

If you dont have it then just use what your using. Combine white tech boxes into blues then combine those into purples before opening them.

[ivory sigil]

i havent receive answer for this cat question yet... but if they are bad

should i buy this golden catbox ?

[rapid shard]

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide/

I will link this again, there is a lot of purple options listed so just keep your eye out for them

[rapid shard]

Cats are a very very expensive end game thing. Buy the gold plates first and foremost.

But from guild shop its not gonna hurt you to grab it

[rapid shard]

https://azurlaneecgc.com/shop_priority/

Give this a read

[ivory sigil]

i gonna take me quite long to memorize so yeah thanks for remind me of getting engle tech

but im abit rush can you help me i want to find a exp boook

[ocean terrace]

I'm pretty sure I just opened a Sakura tech pack and got the fire control radar...

[ivory sigil]

my unicorn is 99% to retrofit

but she is stuck at lv84 and it said lv85 to upgrade this

[rapid shard]

What?

[ivory sigil]

does modernize require more lvl like 90 smthg??????

[rapid shard]

Yep. She will get there faster than you realize

[ivory sigil]

💀

[tawny ermine]

im a returning player, is any of these girls good?

[rapid shard]

Also make sure you completing all the upgrade spots. Dont skip them

[robust onyx]

Meck

[ocean terrace]

Mecklenberggg

[rapid shard]

Meck is one of the top BBs in game now

[tawny ermine]

mechlenburg?

[robust onyx]

DR BB

[ivory sigil]

gold issue so i can only pick 1 now @rapid shard HIT + 5 or AVI + 10 ?

[tawny ermine]

should i get her and use her instead of NJ or FDG?

[ivory sigil]

i had alot of issue with airplane

[rapid shard]

No particular order just complete them as you get the parts

[rapid shard]

She needs Dev30 first

[tawny ermine]

what doesnt lmao, alright ill try get that

[robust onyx]

It means she needs alot of prints

FDG is cash dev30

[tawny ermine]

im aware, i still have retained some memory of how the game works, just got no clue on whos good anymore

[rapid shard]

Golden Lewu is pretty good if memory serves. The golds are nothing special. The PR8 Rainbow gun is best AP BB gun for bossing

[viscid swift]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13YbPw3dM2eN6hr3YfVABIK9LVuCWnVZF0Zp2BGOZXc0/edit?gid=0#gid=0

these should help

[tawny ermine]

ohh tyty

[ivory sigil]

is daily reset in next 20min or next 1hour20min?

[rapid shard]

Hour 20

[rapid shard]

What exactly is Mogs niche? I dont see her mentioned much at all

[ocean terrace]

is it fine to retire Elite bulins if I have tons and don't think I need many anymore?

[ivory sigil]

that's the richest question i ever heard gibb me some

but yeah just toss them since i dont have gold to evolve them anyway

[rapid shard]

Not really. Youll fairly quickly get to a point where they are useless. Income on those are very generous

[glossy granite]

What does transitional ship really mean 🤔

[ocean terrace]

right? I doubt I'll need many Elite ships from now on anyway

[rapid shard]

Transitional ships are still very good but eventually will be replaced by the best of the best options.

[ocean terrace]

I mean what elites do you need to mlb? other than Helena, Independence, Unicorn

[viscid swift]

ships you could concevably use for end game content but there are clearly better options

[glossy granite]

But as that guy said, what really is Mogs niche

[rapid shard]

You do want to limit break ships for the fleet tech points to hit requirements for different PR/DR ships. Particularly IB ships because there's not a ton and FDG AvP and Agir are very good ships you can get early through shipyard

[ocean terrace]

ah ok got it, is that because you get tech points from levelling such ships?

and if so, would I be using xp books for that?

[rapid shard]

Check what I just posted in #bot-spam for a better breakdown

[ocean terrace]

right got it

[ocean terrace]

but again ^^^

since they aren't ships you'd use in your fleet

[rapid shard]

Personally I save xp books to instantly level a ship up to 70-80 to throw them in my leveling fleet. I use first floor form to passively level ships that im.not in a rush to start using and limit break them over time

[ocean terrace]

righttt got it

[rapid shard]

Eventually you'll start leveling just "random" ships for tech/using them for specific PR/DR xp grinds

[ocean terrace]

also I don't see retrofit blueprints on the medal shop priority guide, if I've already purchased the Purin, is it fine to purchase them?

[rapid shard]

Do not worry about tech while your still early and focus on leveling and MLBing good ships to clear content first.

[rapid shard]

They are very very expensive and only worth the cost if your medal rich

[onyx flame]

Spec cores is the next prio

[ocean terrace]

the limit of 3 hard modes a day is frustrating for blueprints

[onyx flame]

Cause it used to buy the next rarest bulin, ur bulins

[ocean terrace]

yeah I was ignoring it for now but I think I'm approaching the stage where I should look into it

[rapid shard]

Each hard stage from W3 and up will give you 2 gold pieces when you 3 star it. You can get more than enough to retro the early priority ships like uni that way

[ocean terrace]

well I'm short on purple blueprints for her

[viscid swift]

Freezing ships for one rotation and getting Unzen better geometric hit rate on her torps with her lunge

[stark quiver]

peak niche

[rapid shard]

It will not take long at all to get to the point where you have a absurd amount of blue and purple pieces from your daily x3 runs @ocean terrace you can combine 5 blues into a purple

[glossy granite]

Is Unzen worth mlb lol

[ocean terrace]

yeah I assume it's because I've only been playing for 3 days, also didn't know about the latter thank you

[viscid swift]

Eventually yeah

[glossy granite]

"Eventually"

[rapid shard]

And to answer your earlier question do not worry about tech farming for a very long time. Thats very much a endgame grind point.

[glossy granite]

I have like 8 or 9 Ur bullins laying around 😭

[ocean terrace]

then the only way to get better ships as of now is to wait for a UR banner and pull then

[onyx flame]

Dec ur coming btw

[glossy granite]

I have been lazy past month with everything besides logging in

[ocean terrace]

this is my fleet currently

working on retrofitting uni and helena for now, nothing much else to do as I'm level capped on campaign other than grinding event battles

[stark quiver]

@viscid swift should i use my 2 kronk dupes to mlb kron or use bulins and use the dupes for fleet power

[rapid shard]

Just run that fleet and push as far into campaign as you can. Ideally W10-W11 then you'll start working on building a second fleet

[viscid swift]

Why is that even a question and since when did you care about FP

[stark quiver]

mlb with dupes it is

[rain bobcat]

you keep dupes for FP I keep dupes for skins we are not the same

[stark quiver]

tbf i keep dupes cuz im lazy
when i get full on dock i usually just buy more

[lofty harbor]

how do people get enterprise?

is it from some mission?

[noble pawn]

from monthly medal shop CV

[lofty harbor]

i see... ok thx

[pallid wind]

When you buy the set will it looks exactly or do you have to do it yourself

[lofty harbor]

Q or D?

[onyx flame]

only grab D if its a dr ship

[onyx flame]

they should be an option to place the whole set down as it appears

[lofty harbor]

nvm thx

retrofit and gear part yeah from this shop?

[lean valley]

Do you already have a unicorn from the elites?

(and probably helena too tbh, plus if really early portland / Pennsylvania)

Otherwise yeah, buy whatever - gold gear parts are good, retrofits are good for a while too (esp for retrofit unicorn if you haven't already)

[lofty harbor]

i see... thx

[keen owl]

Where do you get the last 3 ?

[sweet delta]

In your missions

[keen owl]

Thnx

[gilded dune]

date a live characters any good?

[noble pawn]

Tohka is decent iirc

[knotty jolt]

The vanguard are good the main fleet less so

[gilded dune]

pulled all of them tryina find out if i'd use them so if i should pull more copies

[noble pawn]

would be cheaper to use Bullins but it's more fun doing event construction

It's dopamine rush

[knotty jolt]

Idk about the twins tho so if anything if you're looking to use them focus on kurumi and tohka

[gilded dune]

i have ALOT of stuff to use bulins on im p new

[eternal basalt]

(remember UR event 25th december)

[slow fox]

FOr W15 CV Fleet

[rapid shard]

#gameplay-help message

[slow fox]

Summary, for 15-4 large nodes:

Recon - 1.00/1.25/1.20
Main - 1.00/1.20/1.13
Carrier - 1.00/1.18/1.16

[lofty harbor]

my Helena going to reach level 100 soon if it like this... and I'm still only on W6... I might need to bench her later... what to do?

[sweet delta]

bench her before she reaches 100 then, or else the game will throw level 100 commissions at you that require helena so you'll have to bench her for a few hours per day anyways

[lofty harbor]

damn...

[eternal basalt]

(And you WILL get 4 lvl 100 request at once, trust me)

[analog tendon]

This is a reward from a weekly quest. If i understood how Specialized Cores works i'm going to lose this reward no matter what since the next month begins next Monday, right?

[rapid shard]

Yeah if your active you'll hit the 5k cap each month easily withing 2-3 weeks. Just confirm and wait till next month

[sharp socket]

this is normal stuff if you play somewhat actively

[noble pawn]

it will reset anyway in next week (also new month)

[regal crater]

Should i MLB shinano or new jersey? Both are currently 4 stars. I have two UR bullins and the ur pity

[lofty harbor]

can't use kurumi and Helena because they are max level

what to do. i can't do any stage like this

[eternal basalt]

I mean, you can... it's not recommended, but nobody says you cannot run max leveled chars

[atomic abyss]

Better to use max level characters that actually clear a map rather than unleveled ones that don't

[lofty harbor]

but this will happened then

should i?

[atomic abyss]

Sigh

Helena is reaching 100 yes?

[lofty harbor]

soon

[atomic abyss]

Ships that are at level 100 and above caps will store up to 3 million exp

It's a non issue

[lofty harbor]

ok thx

[atomic abyss]

The issue is what was mentioned here

[lofty harbor]

yeah... so should I?

[atomic abyss]

But 99 -> 100 is way longer than 90 -> 99 anyways

Worry when you actually reach 99

[lofty harbor]

oh... ok thx

[eternal basalt]

The problem is level 100 commissions show up, not the XP

[ocean terrace]

hmmm I haven't heard about this, am I cooked then if my ships are level 100...

[atomic abyss]

Until the ship hits 99 I wouldn't worry

Helena is at 90

[rapid shard]

Dont use bulins on permanent URs. Save bulins for limited ones and use dupes to MLB permanent ones

[lofty harbor]

time to invest on 2nd fleet then

[ocean terrace]

Kotori hit 100 a while ago...

[lofty harbor]

gg

[atomic abyss]

Well not much you can do

[regal crater]

Thx

[lofty harbor]

suCC to be u

[atomic abyss]

Eh that's an eventuality for everyone tho

[atomic abyss]

No you shouldn't

[rapid shard]

And just FYI there should be a new limited UR event in dec so definitely save bulins in case they are broken as hell

[atomic abyss]

You should do what you were already doing
Swap in a different ship in

[bright tusk]

Could anyone create currently the best opsi boss fleet for: light, medium, and heavy boss each, so no need to swap equipment?
Assume have all ships except new priority ships that haven't max dev

[atomic abyss]

As opposed as to replace the entire fleet wholesale

[lofty harbor]

aight then

[noble pawn]

Just wasted over 200K coins and 200 cubes for Unzen I think I'm gonna be cooked for next UR limited

[wind hazel]

is this internet explorer or something

[cobalt robin]

depends how many cubes you have left

[lofty harbor]

I'm about planning to use all my cubes... is that bad? i have 100 left

[wind hazel]

very bad

[cobalt robin]

on date a live banner? very bad

[lofty harbor]

[ocean terrace]

you want 400 min for UR banner

[atomic abyss]

If you have everything you wanted just stop ye

[noble pawn]

sooo bad

[rapid shard]

You never want to keep dumping cubes/coins into a banner once you get one copy of everything your wanting. Pulling for dupes is a stupid idea unless you have a metric shit ton of cubes and coins

[noble pawn]

But hey maybe beginner luck exist for some people

[ocean terrace]

so is the upcoming dec double UR event like new UR ships? or reruns of existing ones?

[rapid shard]

Will be new UR but no idea if its a single or double UR event yet. Won't know that till its officially announced

[ocean terrace]

right but let's say it is double, how does that work

[atomic abyss]

One is a shop UR

[stark quiver]

one gacha one shop
or two gacha because devs said so

[cobalt robin]

another ur sub

[ocean terrace]

how does a shop UR work

[rapid shard]

One will be Gacha the second will be a challenge reward similar to Kurumi/shop points

[stark quiver]

you do some simple tasks to get currency and then buy the shop UR

[ocean terrace]

oh so you could get it for completely free? as in no resources required?

[eternal basalt]

They ran two with JP anni, dunno if they run twice AGAIN in dec, Laffey II/Guam rerun is up too

[rapid shard]

Other than time and oil its free

[ocean terrace]

wow what a f2p friendly game

my love for the game only grows

[wind hazel]

yes, f2p friendly, until you run out of dockspace

[eternal basalt]

Laffey II the first rerun of non-gacha UR, will be interesting to see how they handle that

[rapid shard]

If your smart with cubes and just doing your daily light pull and stop once you get one copy of ships in game. Its actually pretty reasonable to get at least 1 copy of everything.

[wind hazel]

probably less voucher needed, or increased voucher acquisition

[rapid shard]

I thought Guam was the gacha unit and laff the shop one?

[ocean terrace]

oh right about that, is there an indicator that your pull will be refunded?

[noble pawn]

my honest first reaction after getting back on board

[eternal basalt]

They still don't know how to change 20 event boxes in reruns, een if you can ONLY get 21 from the shop not missing a single one

[eternal basalt]

You are right

[rapid shard]

Daily light pull mission gives you a cube as a reward. You gain cube income from rewards/weeklys/monthly etc

[ocean terrace]

oh it's not directly related to being a light pull, just the fact that light costs 1 cube and you get rewarded 1 back

[wind hazel]

yes, doing light is basically free, even rewarded with extra

[rapid shard]

Exactly. Thats why everyone says to do 1 light pull not special/heavy

[ocean terrace]

riiight makes sense, ty

[rapid shard]

As long as your luck isnt completely in the gutter for SR events and you dont have to hard pity every UR events, you'll build up enough cubes to get basically everything. Just gotta be smart with spending resources. Buying cubes and coins gets ridiculously expensive very very quickly.

[ocean terrace]

yup makes sense, I'm glad I asked before I started pulling the DAL banner, or I might've gone crazy with the pulls

still short on cubes but I have time before the UR banner 🙏

[eternal basalt]

UR event 25 Dec

[covert sierra]

How many cubes need to prepare for UR banner?

[eternal basalt]

400

[ocean terrace]

oh it's that late?

[rapid shard]

Personally since you've gotten all the event ships already, ignore the build 3 a day mission and just do 1 daily light pull to start recovering cubes for next event

[ocean terrace]

sounds good, I don't have much to do now anyway other than farming for levels since I'm level capped in campaign

[rapid shard]

Commander level capped?

[eternal basalt]

The current event makes it easy to get points, 3 runs = 800 points daily

[ocean terrace]

yes, I'm level 51 atm and Ch8 requires level 60, the stages themselves are a breeze currently

I also can't consistently grind the event due to morale (solo battle), so I have to wait for morale to recover for hours

[eternal basalt]

Use coalition, better for morale AND gives more points

[rapid shard]

You could go to war archives and do the passionate Polaris event or the one that gives the dress HP aux so your on oil capped maps that give better xp if you've gotten enough from event

[ocean terrace]

I'm new... my 2nd fleet won't make it past sector 6 normal 😭

[rapid shard]

Hes brand new lol cant run 4 fleets

[ocean terrace]

for cosmic kicks right? someone recommended that to me earlier

[rapid shard]

Yes. The hard stages have oilcap once you 100% the stage (takes 1-3 clears cant remember exactly) and will save a shit ton of oil and more xp than your current campaign stages

[ocean terrace]

3 clears

[wind hazel]

no hard stage, only sp1-5

[eternal basalt]

All WA have 1 clear per stage

[wind hazel]

are you sure

[ocean terrace]

sorry could you clarify that (too many abbreviations)

[rapid shard]

Polaris only has sp1-5? Haven't touched that one yet cause I bought the lv70 pack lol

[wind hazel]

WA=war archives

[ocean terrace]

ah right

[wind hazel]

ye

also if you're doing WA, use the HECLP

hassat on the way on being wrong once again

[eternal basalt]

Why x2 morale when you need to x60?

[rapid shard]

Can you get the cosmic kicks to drop prior to 60 clears like the SR ships or is it only rewards on 60th

[wind hazel]

because you need 1 data key per entry. using HECLP means using 1 key for double rewards

hassat, really, why are you always wrong

[eternal basalt]

But you need to do 60 runs, you want him to do 120

[wind hazel]

who says anything about 60 runs??

[eternal basalt]

No SR drop on Passionate Polaris

[wind hazel]

using HECLP is doubling your exp and rewards, per 1 key entry. do you understand the significance of this or not

[rapid shard]

Yeah I know there's no SR ship i was referring to that as a example

[eternal basalt]

You HAVE to do 60 runs

[eternal basalt]

And they are not great.

[wind hazel]

it's still doubling per 1 entry, holy shit

[rapid shard]

Thanks. Only bothered to do a couple WAs and they've been ones with SR ships as rewards. Haven't touched the Aux reward ones

[wind hazel]

your data key is limited. it's 4 per day, meaning you can have up to 60 only. using HECLP means you effectively can run 120 times instead of just 60

why aren't you using HECLP in war archives? it literally boost your exp and rewards, especially for a new player

[rapid shard]

Would definitely be a massive benefit since he needs commander XP to progress campaign to get to better farming spots

[eternal basalt]

XP wise it would be better to do 7-2 or 7-3 than SP5

[wind hazel]

can you stop trolling

[ocean terrace]

😭 this is entertaining to watch

[wind hazel]

ch7 has no oil cap, sp5 has oil cap

it's not even the same comparison

[eternal basalt]

7-2: Small Fleet 455, Medium Fleet 501, Large Fleet 546, Boss 667
SP5: Small Fleet 375, Medium Fleet 418, Large Fleet 462, Siren 533, Boss 580

[ocean terrace]

I've done Ch7... 3 stars too

[wind hazel]

yes now go calculate oil per exp ch7 and sp5

[eternal basalt]

^

[rapid shard]

My B lol stuck at 6 from event number lol

[ocean terrace]

sector 6? yeah understandable

[rigid onyx]

doesn't only sp6 have oil cap from the event

[rapid shard]

Just for math curiosity how much does current fleet cost to do x3 sortie on 7-2

[eternal basalt]

There is no SP6 in Passionate Polaris

[ocean terrace]

I am unable to check atm, sorry

[rigid onyx]

oh not the event

[wind hazel]

at least 70

[ocean terrace]

I turned auto repeat off, let it end real quick so I can check

[wind hazel]

💀

[rapid shard]

Enty Kotori Uni Tohka Helena and Kurumi. Should be around 75ish if I had to guess

[wind hazel]

there's really no need to check, anyone who told you to grind at ch7 is a moron

[ocean terrace]

I was told grinding the event is superior

[wind hazel]

it is if you still need event points

[eternal basalt]

7-2 farmers or 7-3 char drop farmers:

[wind hazel]

event>oil capped map like SP5>highest campaign before oil cap

[ocean terrace]

wait so are you asking for the cost for each individual battle?

[cobalt robin]

is 2 healer mob fleet necessary for w15 or can i run uni with a secondary healer?

[wind hazel]

... whats the difference

[rapid shard]

To see how much oil you would save doing SP5 of Polaris compared to W7 farming

[wind hazel]

uni+secondary healer is two healer

[cobalt robin]

uni and yumia with her healing aux

instead of aquila

[ocean terrace]

how do I check (apologies)

[rain bobcat]

[wind hazel]

really depends on your fleet

[ocean terrace]

I doubt it's this

[wind hazel]

but it sounds crappy without raffaelo at least

[rain bobcat]

not when you use musashi and not raffa

[rapid shard]

Just click stage and see what the cost is for x3 repeat sortie

[cobalt robin]

dont have 😔

[wind hazel]

isnt yumia healing kinda ass

[rain bobcat]

musashi is much worse in nature without aquila

[cobalt robin]

its mid 😔

[ocean terrace]

if we're talking about 7-2 I haven't 3 starred it so no repeat sortie

I only did 7-3 and 7-4 for the 3* rewards

[rain bobcat]

2.5% every like 10s? with very low dmg

if vanguard is not top tier yumia just flops and dies