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I doubt its living in 15 
Some of the late campaign bosses can just nuke your backline out of existence
Iirc that's mainly 14-2 and 15-2
14-4 has 4-6 BBs before boss iirc
the problem isn't that there are bosses that nuke your back line, it's just the front line needs to do more than surviving
Is seyd nakhi Lion Yuki laffii eld with 17.5k and 17k power a dangerous fleet?
then which ships should i get from research after Agir? Shimato?
Potentially
pvp? could lose on bad rng
yeh that comp is just taking the top row from pvp guide, 17k suggests it should be at least decently geared
does the black friday event end today?
no
no 2 +13 spears prob
No. It's up to Dec 3rd
Wait 

Where to farm EXP? NGL, this game's a bit too confusing with the UIs
Dunno what does function and where to look for stuff

also 17.5k backline might mean they are using 457 
ship exp or commander exp? ship exp you simply just bring them along on the highest stage you can do without them dying, for commander exp you just need to go to battle, more ships used means more commander exp
at the end of the day it's one of those things you can be gibbed by rng if you don't look at the screen
can also give these a read since your new too
https://azurlaneecgc.com/newbie_tips
eld moment
Ship exp with those book like stuff?
are the books arent really farmable you get them from the cruise pass (battlepass), weekly missions, events and lecture hall when you sortie with level 100+ ships. so early on your main source of ship exp is just bringing them into battle
XP books are a limited resource in early game
you get more weekly but it's a fairly small trickle before you unlock lecture hall
you just get XP from using the ships in fights, if you can't beat a map check gear and LB and if it's not something you can improve, just go back to repeat the previous stage for XP and level
it's ok using XP packs but I would hold on to a handful at least to bump new units if a good replacement comes by over your initial fleet
Alright, thanks a lot
the newbie tips also has basic starter fleet ship reccs, you may want to check and avoid using bad ships
what fleet formation shoud i use
double line mostly
Are Wisdom cubes usable for Collabs?
yea
Oh, nice
Gonna hold on to all of them and just go with whatever unit the game gives then
collab doesn't use a separate currency for building but it does mean eating into your stock since we are expecting new UR end of the year
not that you have much choice if the collab interests you
Was there a preview of who the next showdown meta is?
what is the circle that come to my unit? i notice that it comeout when plane comeout
AA gun circle
but i notice i can still hit enemy ship, outside of that range
dont think there was, only showed cruise pass boise meta iirc
AA is for hitting planes, not ships
Should I use my combat data packs to level up my ships? or use it for prototype shop only?
oh... ok
always convert to protocore
dotted circle is AA circle, planes inside it will take damage periodically based on your AA guns
no, but current one has 23 days to go so chances are it'll be announced before UR event
combat data packs cannot be used to level ships, it's used to boost the XP progress in research but yes we do recommend analyzing them for prototype cores because XP is cheap
are skill book rare? can i use it?
Oh, by the way, is it safe to use up the ship building support tickets or did I just fuck myself over with using ~5?
Always use , start with unicorn healing and ignore portland
you get a regular income for skill books anyway
Use them or lose them
ok thx
just make sure you do the daily raids
they expire in a few days so use them all
if you have tickets still it's use or lose for the event but you can space them out to do daily build missions until the event ends
i haven't do that yet, since it look high level... my team already almost die on 2-2... this game is harder than i thought
just need levels and gear
No it is trivially easy if you read
Any recommendations for limited shop pick, or should I not bother?
Limited guild shop is for collection
Ah, no good units? Alright, thanks!
There are some mid game ships but they're bad for new players and bad for end game players
there is this gauges on my ship that can spawn planes. what is that?
i know it go up if my backline got attacked
Detection Level:
If the gauge hasn't been filled, your carrier is Hidden, meaning she has 10% flat AA resistance pierce against enemies (e.g. she deals 30% more air damage to an enemy with 300 AA), and enemy ships won't target but can still blind-fire or splash her.
If the gauge has been filled, there will be an exclamation mark (!) displayed to the side of the gauge, and your carrier loses the Hidden status. They will regain the buff when the gauge level falls below the red line.
The carrier's gauge will be increased when she launches an airstrike or certain barrages, when she is burning, when she is spotted by enemy ships that crossed the detection line, or when an enemy ship or airplane crashes into your main fleet.
most of this you don't actually need to think about
just pick good ships and use good gear
granted your options will be limited early in the game but by and large we just let auto handle the fighting
all my ship now is mostly naked on gear... i can ignore it later yeah until late game? or i should get some gear? but from where?
open up some techboxes
tech box early on
naked gear is prolly why ur ships are getting cooked
make sure to compose your techboxes to t3 before opening em
gear is fairly limited early on, you often go with empty slots in the first 2 chapters
but yes do try to craft your tech boxes up to purple then open them, should be at least good for some placeholder gear, and there are some pieces you will keep using for a very long time
toolkits 
btw what max tier for techbox?
Game also gives you free +6 purple every half chapter you clear
don't care about the tier, you want a purple one
the tiers listed on gear screen are somewhat misleading
yes, i give it all to Portland
Shouldn't be portland
Autoloader for your BB
Single 127 for your DD
Both gears get replaced by certain tech box drops but that's up to luck
progress is server based, if you log on to a different server you restart

Why use gems to increase dock size(?) - are there really that many ships needed?
which server is the oldest
avrora
there like 800+ total ship in this game, excluding space needed to hold bulins/for farming
hey guys as a new player who should i be doing tactical classes for
which skill should i focus
The heal
who else should i train for missions
should i change my main to avrora server? 
What do you mean missions? as in fleet or dispatching?
unless you got friends there i dont really see the need to
prob the event mission where it says do tactical training x times
for the cruise mission
You just train whoever your using.
choice of server does nothing to gameplay
technically it affects your medal shop
if you want to speedrun the game for some reason then ok
It affects PvP
UR gacha sits at 1.2%? Dang, that's pretty low
Does that increase for Collabs?
2-3 before boss battle 
is it worth it to save oil by using 1:1 fleet on D3 till i done the event?
I wouldn't call that low considering that the game gives a lot more gacha currency than other games do
.
Collaboration SRs will likely be 2%
what unzen skills do I need to level up first?
Ah, that's pretty good then
what to do?
what gear do you have and do you have exp book i forgot when does one have them
grind the previous stage to level your ships up a bit more before going back to tackle
where do we craft the t3 techbox?
depot, click on your lower tier boxes and there should be an option to compose
thx
is there datamine for unzen rerun?
? what do you need a datamine for a rerun for? all of the data like already out
curious of the shop priority
also LB what you can, should give a bump to your HP and damage
always enhance the ships your using (use common rarity ships to do that)
and lb just about all the ships your using, purple bulins are fairly common and if you have dupes even better use those first
the usually gun + ticket, then the rest is up to you with how much you have to spend prints/coin/oil/map drop ship if you care, tech boxes and plates if your new and still need em
preferably unicorn if you gonna use bulin, alo use all your focus to retrofit unicorn first
enhance can be done with common fodder but the difference won't be too much in the short term
is the ship good at all?
Hatsuzuki is not bad but suffers from being just another decent SR DD
sad but somehow she is my only SR DD i think
I agree that Unicorn retrofit should be a priority but you won't see much difference until modernization
you don't have to use a SR DD, or a DD at all
if you need one for hardmode slot or trp req sure but starter DDs will probably work fine too
ok thx everyone
ok thx
forgot how large the difference was lmao, should the priority be portland then? since cheaper and a good tank
you pretty much should focus on CV prints first anyway
if there's spare from missions and stuff then yeh Portland
Huh is I-404 just not good in w15 campaign ?
Idk if I built her wrong but the output is kinda depressing
my impression is flasher always outdamages her for "normal" stages
not sure if she gets it better with bosses
UR sub my ass 
Any use for commons? Should I retire them?
Enhance ships with them
Gouden is kinda awesome for campaign though , she has everything you need
she has my money?
what good place to dumb my oil? so i can get my girls some exp?
I'm currently only on 2-4
is event unlocked for you? if yes, go do event
You won't give elf wife your money?
her money is my money.
my money is my money.
she feels better than guam? or more or less same
isn't she more or less guam but more damage
Lot more damage , helps with chaff
anyone 
highest stage u can do but I wouldn't recommend stopping unless you can't actually beat the next stage
But eh, guess I404 just does worst; I do have the 4 rainbow torp build +13 but I doubt that will do better
read what i wrote
ok...
@lofty harbor @lofty harbor @lofty harbor @lofty harbor
mori it's a new player at chapter 2
yeah and?
oh... that for me... 
ok i will do that
Gets clapped by A1 
I don't even think event unlocked before finshing ch3 or something
then push campaign until event is unlocked, then go do event
to be fair flasher's barrage will probably hit everything which leads to her having a higher starting dmg eitherway
that's why my statement was led with a question
in comparison, 404's barrage will most likely just go straight to the waves of water
Mori Ayaya, yall wanna help me make 2 fleets for opsi?
Should I lvl up uni to 125 or 100 is enough?
at least 120
120 should be enuf, save 125 for main dps
You always want to 120 your ships for the bonus tech
Do ships' mood get better with time or only after every daily reset?
they regain morale at a base of 20 per hour
so if you want them to recover faster put em into the dorm
And what happens upon reaching disappointment?
Oof
For the boss fight I summoned subs when zuikaku spawns , so theoretically it shouldn't hit water
Then the fight lasted long enough for all subs to retreat; maybe it was some really unfortunate low rolls
Is unzen still good
I can't believe this i malded 2-4 stage, failed so many times...
and this is what they give me

what stage should i even do now
for opsi bosses, my 404 usually hits harder by a margin
flasher may just roll better outright in campaign
do you have exp books?
i haven't used that, yes
use some and get them to around lv25-30
who
this is my team
i mean like who first. because i doubt i can make everyone level 30
how many books do you own?
damn... so little
ok
wait until thursday
you should have these gear, equip the 406m mk6 on penny, the 150mm on helena, 127 on laffey
wrong channel sir
omg i got into a wendys situation
it was hard but i did it. so i just spam that first stage yeah? is the next stage harder?
yes it has higher level enemies. farm a1 for a bit first
ok thx
move to a2 when everyone is ~30, a3 when everyone is ~35
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Effulgence_Before_Eclipse#tabber-A2
can check here for more info on enemies level and stuff
thx
uni+cassin 7-4
is she good? should i replace anyone here?
Shes bad
All the Elite METAs are bad
damn...
Should i build a third one? Im lacking more advanced Fighters
Ignore META ships for time being. You dont start really using them till mid-late game
My commonly used Fighters are Hellcats or Seafangs
How many should i, realistically, aim for?
it's a, "as many as needed" type plane 
How lazy are you at wanting to swap gear around is the real answer
I have like 20 Flappers at this point
Then they should, over time, replace Hellcats and Seafangs. 6-ish then. Sounds doable. Thanks
... What do with the outdated Fighters? Disassemble the Seafangs and Hellcats? Most of them, anyway
Seafangs cant be upgraded further, If i recall
i just pass em to ships when i bring em to level
keep them as memory
unless you want to upcraft the Hellcats to get plates back, but I don't think that's worth all the GL mats 
I will keep a handful for that, yeah
Thanks for the Help.
when did they update the cattery limit
cn anni
what's the new max slots
400
question how do i unlock this skill for shimakaze? is it unlocked by limit break
i have all her other skills 10/10/10
yeah, you get it by limit breaking her. ships aren't really worth using unless you limit break them-- and URs are kinda expensive to do that with early on
i see, yee ive only been able to get a few UR bulins but ive been trying to lvl up shinano first
thanks for the info 😄
i'd wait with spending the bulins until you have enough to limit break ships fully (4 per ship), and maybe check back here for more advice then first
i see well my shinano is already on last limit break haha my gear is kinda limited as well but im grinding alot for UR Gear
... yeah, at this point may as well max her out
just pulling to get another copy is kinda hard when all these events are going on 😄
i'd argue with dupes from the permanent gacha, but that might take a while, and the same could be said for shimakaze. plus you'll probably have enough by the time the next UR comes around anyways
U do know there is UR bulins right?
yes i have 1 in stock
is what ive been using to lvl up shinano
Do U have any proto core?
Did you use your 1 UR Starter Invitation Letter already?
we had one of those?
oh
The final reward
i dont think ive opened a UR voucher sooo
yeah, if that's still an option, wait for it and take the shinano dupe to save a bulin
guess i gotta grind for that then
Ya U can
They are all just simple missions
i see, because in main mission section it only shows clear 10-1
I would get and bulin musashi instead over shinano if you don't have minimum 3 good UR BBs
wait for how broken december UR is and ask again
but if its not crazy good for a beginner then getting musashi perma and using bulins on her is the best bet
investment unzen or trafalgar first
Hakuho is right there...
she is strongest one out of my UR ships? i do have access to essex UR though just need mats for her to upgrade
Shinano + Hakuho will be fairly strong later on ya 
do you want the usual factionfleetbad talk or just something that'll work for shit that's too easy to matter anyway
i see i will try to upgrade hakuho then since i have an extra copy of her
Yes Hakuho is probably the strongest investment you can make out of those ships you posted, and that's under the assumption those are all your URs. Provided we are getting a new UR in about a month, but that's a month out and still a lot of time to resource gather for new Bulins
i have 71 cubes saved up so far
shouldn't be too much an issue we are heading into a new Cruise Pass which means a lot of free cubes to grab

yeah thats what pretty much helped me get all these cubes and ofc grinding the event for UR gun
baring those it should still be easy enough to manage around 150+ cubes before mid to late Dec 
while the goal is 400 if you can manage 250 going in you should be able to make it
ill keep in mind for hakuhou then she will be my next focus UR
is this good? and which ship should i use
only relevant for pvp
Anything 
Is U-101 I-404 and Archerfish a good combo ?
Then I-404 Archerfish and Nautilus?
didn't realise i had this many torp plates lol what's the priority
can't pull up plus13 cause cloudflare
honestly if not raised yet just wait 1 month flasher will rerun most likely and u can have i404 archer + flasher which is the best sub fleet atm
lol, cloudflare busted again?
improved quad mag
Flasher rerun with Laffey II?
yes
early january most likely
and there is LNY after which is the perfect place to raise submarines
their affinity at least 
this one specifically i hope u didnt do a mistake
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/533mm_Improved_Quadruple_Magnetic_Torpedo_Mount
nah i'm aware
good
how to get this? i mean which rerun does have this
we had 2 idk if u managed to get both
if not u can improve 2 other regular quad mag but I would just wait tbh
think i wasn't around for the first run
it was in the little academy event + 1 more event i forgot about
fritz?
oh fritz yes
future events might have it too
surely it gets added to gear lab right
at least it aint like afct 
clueless
there only 4 dockyard ships that need ijn main exp right? izumo, azuma, hakuryuu and daisen, knocking off the exp reqs for shipyard while i grind my fleet techs
then just use anything really, faction fleets aren't useful and you don't even actually enough good ships for a full fleet anyway
Just got unzen so do I wanna try MLB her first or someone else
Imp >>>> Unzen
Finish Soyuz.
Mlb one ship at a time, don't jump around on them. They're useless until mlb.
Also, next time you ask that question, please filter by UR
soyuz and traf before implac
Traf before Implac? What?
Decent ig?

So now that I finally got my first ship to dev 30 (roon) should I convert any general blueprints that can select season 1 to Roon and will it then let me convert those into protocore currency?
Or do I need fs5 for that?
you only need dev 30, and yeah convert it
Sweet thanks.
you really aren't going to be doing anything with lv1 ships and most of those there are a waste of time and resources 
I meant the fleets not the lvl I can just lvl then up anyways
Read the 2nd part of his sentence
what are you trying to with that??
No idea
Nagato is shit
That CL in the middle is shit
That CA that isn't Unzen isn't really noteworthy
Taihou is fine-ish but doesn't have much long term value
Unzen and Oumi are the best ships there ignoring the obvious lack of levels and limit breaks
Also insert obligatory "Faction fleets suck" statement here
faction fleets are only good when it's the ships that are good and basically has nothing to do with it being a faction fleet
nagato is shit 
Hi I'm new and I would like some advice about synergies and which elite ships should I try to invest or smthng, For the SSRs I'm not using rn cuz of underleveled is war spite and prinz eugen
Give this guide a read asap
https://azurlaneecgc.com/newbie_tips/
non of these ships are mlb so they are bad
cloudflare down
Both of those fleets are majorly scuffed and you barely even have the resources to raise 6 ships early game much less double that
What should I do then
grab unicorn helena and portland from guildshop
And Pennsylvania
I'm broke in guild money, I used it on dock expansion
what are ur BBs in dock and what is ur medal rotation
what is medal rotation
go to medal shop and say what two hulls are there for SR
is she good? can i use her?
shes bad
is it the merit shop
SR bb and sr cl
Get Alabama from BB then
grab alabama and sandy
I can only buy one
alabama
can u at least get unicorn from guild shop ? or too broke for her alone aswell ?
rip
ur fleet should be smth like alabama unicorn hiryuu - marseil smth laffey
maybe show ur dock
firstly get dewey meta outta there too
alabama sara hiryuu - marseil hatsuzuki laffey
pray u get unicorn from map drop and boot hiryuu out for her
mlb alabama first with gold bulins and then marseil
is that for fleet 1
if ure alr done with ch4 and 5 then just wait till u get enough guild coins for uni ig
You can't really grind XP packs until you start using lvl 100+ ships
Also XP packs didn't even exist for a good while so you'll live perfectly fine
ur only fleet till u reach oilcap
It should be the only fleet you're running until at earliest W9
yes
alabama flag
what
alabama in the middle ( under the flag icon )
ok so how do I lvl them up fast now
i think clf is fixed so u should read this now https://azurlaneecgc.com/newbie_tips/
theres no fast method for you yet
throw them in the highest stage they can survive
i got submarine. i don't need to invest on her yet yeah?
just do any sortie and you get xp, dorm , pvp
u can lv i-58 to like lv100 and to clear lv65 sub raid when u reach ch 12-4
can ignore subs till then
ok thx
Whats the BF point stand for that we get somehow on the top left screen
Where unicorn drop in the campaign
Didn't we already tell you to get her from guild shop
There's a special mini Black Friday cruise pass
For pushing story, should I use BB or CV Boss Fleet?
I'm broke, might aswell try to get her from luck while leveling up my units to be good enough
Ok I found it myself dw
4-4, 5-4, 10-1, 12-1
1 BB 2CV
W13 is the only place in campaign that you can get away with 3CV (Mob fleet only)
It'd be faster to join a guild and farm guild coins than to try and RNG a ship drop
I already applied multiple times and none accepted me
Alright, thanks. What should I use? For BB I have Musashi or Lion and for CVs Shinano and... Hakuhou?
Without knowing what content this is for and what you have, idk how you want me to answer
Plus I gotta clock in for work so have someone else help with that
Don't worry, make sense... Have a good worktime 
Was w13+
ch14 and ch15 require specific setups
good thing we have dedicated guides
https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-14-brief (15 and detailed guides in the pane)
for 13 just make sure u have decent ships and gear and u will be fine
First part of the Chapter 14 guide, with example fleets for auto and explanations of ship roles.
help... what to do they are angry at me
i recommend u post in your specific server channel here in discord asking for a guild
should be quicker
Thank you! 
give them rest
put them in dorm
but i only have 2 slot...
also i still have so many oil...
should i use gems?
put the red ones in the dorm then rotate them so u increase morale faster
expand dorm with decor coins and buy 3rd slot and second floor
it takes a while to get enough decor tokens tho
hmm....
try and farm event
a1 a2 a3 and b1 should be possible with your levels if u just limit break them
get 10k event tokens for the gun before thursday
the gear is more useful sadly 
yeah the gear is more prio
Dw about the girl u can get her later down the road
someone said to me lutzow better than pennsyvan
should i change?
btw what happen. if i force the girl to still go to war even with 0 heart?
well better than penny isn't that high of a bar... but i feel like should wait for better super rare bbs for gold bulin.
i see... ok thx
cause theres nelson (elite) and hood that can be accessible, also theres collab coming too
at 100(love) +6% stat boost except speed
damn...
honestly the affinity is kinda whatever, the exp penalty is the main issue
half xp bad, don't use ships with 0 morale
i guess i should start build my 2nd fleet then?
not really, 2nd fleet is for w9 +
no
but my fleet 1 girl all sad
Take a break
wait
ok 
how long do i need to wait for them to not be sad in the dorm?
with the dorm boost rn its 50morale/hr so 3 hour from zero morale
3 hour to 100 morale?
ok that is faster than i thought
???3 hour to 150 which is the max
though i don't recommend collab ships in general though, however, for a new player, have to use what the game offers XD
please help me beat 13-1 hard what should i change to my lineup ;(
which fleet is failing?
boss fleet
Swap Alsace for a CV, get that airspace control to green.
which CV give me some examples i might have all of them
Practically any UR CV or Enterprise. I’ve been partial to Nakhimov lately, Essex is fine.
I’d also swap out Aegir for, idk, Trafalgar or Z52 if you have either. Stick Anchorage in tank slot.
But that’s not as important.
Why fix what ain’t broke? Long as your mob fleet is working no need to change it.
You just dropped out Alsace , if anything she goes back in
alright that air control looks green now, hope it works
Helena can go to , there are much better ships these days
like what? san diego?
She is significantly better yes
can i use plymouth?
Still better choice then Helena
But just use your Sandy, and you can swap Elridge and z52
hmmm okay
hi who do I MLB
yes i have enough bulins
does the pity from unzen banner saves?
Soyuz Hakuhou Unzen
im in trouble then
That's why you save cubes well
why is it recommended to only get 1 copy of the event shop ship? I was wondering if farming campaign is really more worth than a gold bulin, because realistically, you are not in a rush for exp and gold anyway right? We also have so many events in a row in recent times, I barely ever find time for campaign unless i sacrifice event rewards that are just not farmable, so i kinda dont understand why I should farm campaign at all, because I will run out of oil before I run out of event shop things to farm anyway.
It's not recommended to get the ship from event shop. You should realistically be getting your copies map drop. In addition you won't be maxing every single event ship that comes , by the time you need to, bulins are very accessible
there are times when no event for weeks
Wdym ???
for normal event, you really only farm up to 55k points for that milestone rewards, so thats the max ish amount of currency to buy stuff that you working with. and while your farming it usually at D3 which is where the shop ship drops from so you might not even need to buy thenm.
for rerun there even less event farming since you really only wanna aim for that 35k point milestone which can be done just by using all the daily bonus.
I don't think there's ever been a time there hasn't been some form of event be it a free skin to prelude or just an aux gear or actual full event
We haven't had a multi week break in since forever
additional most event coin/exp earning is like w9/10 level? which just isnt enough im ngl
then im going insane
if ur bottleneck to lvling ships isnt cog chips nor oil(xp) but instead gold bulins then theres nothing wrong with farming extra dupes
but 90% of the time that wont be the case
are gold bulins really that accessible? I am legit starving for them.
if your trying to mlb everything then yea ig you constantly be starving
Hi, on OpSi, can we swap gears mid map?
Yep.
Are you remembering to do your exercises and etc? Cause a decent portion comes from shop
the question is, why SHOULDNT I MLB everything, that's the true endgame, isnt it?
they are accesible if u are actively playing pvp and actively lvling ships
they are also accessible if u are not actively lvling ships or ure actively lvling ships that are not SR
they are not accessible in the rest of the cases
Hold the ship’s image on the left to do it from the map screen.
pvp 
Alright, thanks. Knowing this will lower my gear requierments by far 
Read the caveat, by the time you are grinding fleet tech late game; income should be sufficient if you are actually playing the game like pvp. It doesn't mean you can afford to mlb 100 ships in a month
I always hold onto quite a few bulins to be able to mlb a major event just for the border 
i dont grind borders
Hm... I guess, there are a lot of purple and blue ships to go through as well.
So in your opinion, I assume, experience is the true bottleneck, not bulins?
More like oil but also yes
bulins
xp is a bottleneck when ure not playing the game
cause legit, all i wanna know is, when I am like true true endgame player, like almost fully maxed fleet tech and I have a few more ships left, is that because exp or bulins were holding me back?
cog chips and bulins is usually the 2 bottlenecks
early on u will hit cog chip deficity first I think
then later on gold bulins might become a bigger bottleneck but I cant be sure of that
cause if it's bulins, I hardly understand the argument to not farm out the event shop dupes
bulins and cog chips
xp is almost never a bottleneck
gold bulins become a bottleneck only if u disregard pvp and dont wanna lvl non-SR ships with "bad" tech
cog chips is 99% of the time a bottleneck for active grinding
the argument is because farming event is inefficient for coins and cog chips
the more time u spend in event is less time spent in ch12
should i keep pulling or just leave it as that to get the new ur in december
so even if I get "more bulins" from the event, I will just make cog chips an even harder bottleneck then, alright, I think I get it now
Hold off
theres no real endgame
I’d save.
nah, my life will be much happier with maxed fleet tech, trust
farming doesnt rly get u much cog chips to be fair
I can see an argument for a true min maxer farming ship dupes
HOWEVER an even bigger min maxer will just wait for event rerun to farm 2-3 dupes in each event 
it never be max, there always new ones
Endgame is when you can waste resources 
you can just grind fleetpower
its because the coin eff in event is also not good for players compared to ch12
not only xp and stuff
coins are usefull for many reasons for newbs
real, i can be at 70k coins look through a few menus and be broke somehow after
wait that's lowkey really smart
I go through 100k+ a week 
maybe I should also like min-max using gold bulins only for 2 cube construction ships, because I spam Light every day anyway
you should get important tech done first and then worry about that
dang it, i really wanted to get her since i don't have any really good vanguards dmg wise
idk how old your account is
but as long as u do enough pvp i wouldnt worry too much about bulin efficiency
especially if u are new
use bulins for useful ships/waifu
then for tech ships
any idea what new ur going to be
no
its going to be a ship
or will it 
very intresting
It's going to be a girl too 
a bit less than 3 months by now, I've been min-maxing everything like a lunatic, but I obviously lack the insight which resource is the last to lack, so if it's cog chips...
I think the ultimate conclusion is to only farm event ships that are heavy+, wait for reruns and hope you roll them off of light construction, if they aint heavy+, anyway, heading to ch12 now
thanks everyone for your input c:
coggies are good
getting ships of light construction is rarer than ships in heavy/special...
ch12 at 3 months 
sometimes the event ship might be good enough to warrant an MLB earlier
that is what I meant
event banners are 99% of the time heavy/special mixed and thats where 80% of the pulls are going not the 1 /day in light
i am all for min/maxing so if u want the insight of later game players then no worries u are welcome
just dont go overboard 
I mean it was ch12 at week 6 and it will ch12 for the next 3 years as well
the amount of cogs needed is still kinda
like looking at my fleet tracker yeesh
look at where you're at
the true way to overcome cog chips bottleneck is make a time travel machine and go back in time and become a boomer
I made a fleet with what I have for OpSi. Does it look... not bad at least? 
It's BB boss fleet
for traditional format events for example there is 2 methods of min/maxing
u can low cost B maps which is more painful but gets u more cog chips in the end
or u can farm D3 map and hope for the ship drop (saving u bulins)
both are valid
up to you which u want to do
i should mention that these are my fleets:
Mob: BisZ, Unicorn, Saratoga retro, Otto, Kazagumo, Laffey
Boss: Lion, Enterprise, Essex retro, Agir, Helena, Trafalgar
final verdict? 
looks good for vs light armor
doesnt oumi need flag?
oumi might want flag depending on boss
the best day to start investing was years ago, the second best day is today
it looks pretty bad
@cobalt rapids hallo my bestie hallo hallo!! halloO!!!! halloooooooo
would you please help me pleaaaaseee please please please 🥰 youre so nice i knew youd say yes
Oh, don't know. Does Oumi need flag?
umi no neko youre the best
do you have gold fire control radars
she is defo much better as flag ship
No... I would use them for sure...
i would also use a better tank than cheshire if u have 
the question is if the boss hangs long enough in oumi dd gun range to outweigh losing ply buff from lion
damn bro, its fine i guess
I have Ancho, but she's on the CV fleet
Other than her... not much more
I see
if CV fleet is strong that is ok
if not go all in on the BB fleet and use anchorage here
I see... I will have to investigate
if these are all your URs then you can mlb soyuz
CV is AvP Shinano Hakuhou Ancho Kazagumo Sirius
that is pretty decent
i guess it can stay like this for now sure
is there any place she'd go in my fleets orrrr do I like.. stash her aside for now?
or do i actually get to start making OpSi fleets that I have never gotten to doing?
if u see fights end before your BB can launch 3 salvo then I would swap personally
can start making opsi fleets
the 3 rainbow bbs + agir helena traf good
Thanks for the review, appreciate 
okaaay!!!!!
i'll make a thread later and idk. maybe bother someone to make me three one 🥰
u can ping me if u want
surely you'd be willing to help me since youre so so nice . . .
the way ive been doing opsi is kind of funny
my stronghold runs usually get cut into 6 because i have to port, reheal and go back in every 2 sorties 😭
May I ask if you can ping me too? I have basic idea and would like to read and learn. And may be be helpful... 
will do so!!!!!!!!!
Thank you 
OPSI FLEET THREAD STARTER

Can PR ship below dev 30 equip unique augment?
dont see why not
ae
seems to be able to slot isnt locked (ignore the gear)
Main fleet damage calculations now include research ships at every 5 dev levels and META and native UR ships at every limit break. Come check out just how bad your 3 star shinies are!
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wvigE4P1-2XUt3tnGuXKPeD-WiDtOxbm9GEkSeTO9mY/edit?gid=1096217536#gid=1096217536
it's bad
we need another 21 kear entries with aa debuff
what emulator should i download to come back to the game? tried bluestack X but is kinda bad in the fights
mumu is pretty good
for AL at least, mumu should be the only answer
they partnered with yostar specifically for the game, which is unfortunately why AL will likely never have a true pc client
damn thats crazy
hey, gfl1 got their pc client today, so there is hope 
but thx, gonna download it and try again, time to download the 24gb again 
gl soldier
any specific configuration i have to keep in mind for mumu?
source?
they announced it on bili somewhere but their "partnership" revolves around a preconfigured mumu instance with AL pre-configured to download itself there is nothing custom about the mumu version
(its also chinese only)
you can also see the download for it on the bili homepage for AL
Not really
they cross promote AL on their own website
https://www.mumuplayer.com/en/games/action/azur-lane-on-pc.html
Play Azur Lane on PC/Mac with MuMuPlayer: Ad-free, high FPS, and smart keyboard/gamepad controls deliver a superior PC gaming experience. Download now!
i can't find it now, but when i first started using it the mumu website said they were basically the official emulator for AL, and prior to AL massively bloating up the game size, it was the only emulator i tried that could run AL smoothly on 60 fps settings
The retrofit skill of Helena says "if there are 3 ships afloat in your Vanguard and there is an Eagle Union ship in the backmost position (other than this ship)"
What does this mean? Just that i need to have an Eagle ship in the main fleet? Or must it be in a specific position?
Eagle union ship in the off tank slot
Off tank position in the vanguard
meaning helena herself can't be that eagle union ship in that off tank posistion
the off-tank slot is the rightmost one, right?
Yee
its why this clause is in there - (other than this ship)
Thanks
Hello, i Just found Taihou π, Is she strong?
Decent but has no real long term value
And Muse ships don't have tech so she doesn't even have that to fall back on to help her relevancy
Alr, thank you
What is the "Special" ship pool?
Mainly Submarines and Aircraft carriers
When can i pull from it?
Don't bother
Just wait for a event banner that uses the special pool for its own pool
Essex is supposed to be in there.....
She is indeed in there
No she is not good, and why did you buy her before asking?
I found her in the requisition
Pray she shows up in a future SR invite. 
That’s even worse. 
There’s enough good stuff in the medal shop, including all the good ships you could’ve gotten from requisition, that you should have no medals to waste on it.
Fax
Would yall say drake or chkalov get more us generally?
bench warmers
You use them until you get something better.
Figured as much😂😂
Does drake need like an augment to make her more usable, or is she just cooked?
Unique augments can be useless or can double a ship's strength
roasted
Yeah i get that, just figured its rough place for a ur to be if she has a fate sim and still be kinda meme territory lol
drake wasnt even that broken for her time
at least when compared to fdg and other BBs
What's the best equipment for Independence if I don't have URs? 
Yeah not sure how DRs like her and azuma gets to these kinda fucked positions they are in
comparing ca to bb
The same way any other character gets powercrept
i mean, back then they were trying to figure out how to even balance rainbows
its also like how fdg is a noob only ship

that's not the point
drake wasnt that remarkable as a frontline DPS even on release
she was the best sure
but fdg was so ridiculously far ahead of everything else
Back then they didn't know how to balance rainbows.
Now, they still don't know how to balance rainbows 
drake back then would be like comparing NJ to FdG
For campaign, flapjack, breguet or skypirate (skypirate is not worth crafting)
Breguet? Even with the new augment?
She had that part of the skill even before her augment.
Skypirate was never worth crafting
really though it's a dead end one off plane that's easily replaced 
What did the augment do?
augment never changed what plane she used
she always had that US TB buff
shame that the one good US TB isnt really worth the mats
When this ship uses Eagle Union aircraft: increases that aircraft's efficiency by 5% (15%). When the battle starts: increases your Eagle Union Vanguard ships' AA and EVA by 5% (15%) and decreases your Eagle Union Main Fleet ships' DMG taken by 5% (15%). Every 20s: launches a Lv.1 (Lv.10) special airstrike (DMG is based on the skill's level).
pretty useless 
I asked because of this... But if Breguet is just better I go for It, of course 
Thanks guys 
If in going to spend money, whats the best deal/pack to get?
buying gems when you have the double gem thing
Does Unzen want double Rainbow Aux Torps or 1 Fumo, 1 Oxytorp?
I mean, Hit stat are good right?
EVA aux
What are you using Unzen for? Hit stats are good sure, but she usually go high performance hydraulic steering gear + toolkit
Opsi bossing, Going full Offensive setup with Unzen since she's in the in the middle
the more I build BBs, the more I realize how absolutely, insanely goated the purple 406 is
double oxy
Double oxy should be better I think but dont quote me on this 
Maybe if it was light armor boss u want more fp/hit 
just dont use unzen on light lol
True 
even on medium its cooked because hindenburg is right there
Especially now with 2 unzen gun hinden is even better I think
But then again ply traf and z52 exist 
I mean you could use her vs light with the French torpedoes if you manual 
Judging by how the timing has been in the past, should we expect to be able to coin dev Plymouth, Brest and pr6 at around the end of the year? Seems like thats what happened last year
You're off by about a month
It usually happens around Lunar New Year in around January/February
Ah ok, thanks
Not with the lab update in Dec?
Even when they did gear lab updates in December the PR updates were still around LNY
does anyone perhaps know how many BPs it takes to reach dev 20 on a gold ship?
/devbp the bot knows
W bot
133
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Is the event over tonight or tomorrow night?
1 reset left
Yeah?
Main takes main
Van needs van
CB is both

Aquila volga and giulio if u have the gold bulins for aquila
okay!
Both purple are fine to level if u dont have gold bulins
can i jsut keep my van the same and change main?
Van can be anything
Doesnt matter which faction
okay okay
And volga will carry in ch12 so can use anything tbh
Just give her some levels
71 might be too low 
who should be flagship
Volga/aquila
doesnt matter much

what planes for them..
Standard
Uh…
Normal bomb fighter like Flapjack
Helldiver/tenrai DB
Parallel torp bomber like breg/wyvern
Aquila is fine on preload mode if u use volga as well I think
2 heal not needed
Seafangs and reppu will work fine as they both have the same payload of 2 500lb bombs
Is it too slow if I just got 3 UR gear design plans per 1 OpSi run?
okay okay and then
Sb2c helldivers
Literally beats out 99% of all other planes in its category 

Wdym 1 opsi run?
1 month?
The purple barracuda will work unless you wanna take the gold off and put it on her
No, the period of time that it reset
oh, actually she has a gold barracuda currently
Idk how to describe it:(
Yeah so 1 month 
3 rng is good
Probably average
U get 4 selectors as well each month
Aight, thanks
last up is giulio
One another month and I'll have my first UR gear
The ye old gold standard classic back in the day was f6f hellcats, sb2c helldivers, and fairey barracuda I miss those days such simpler times 

back when everyone used the same plane
Solid
I mean giulio is like any other bb purple triple 406mm with whatever aux guns and AA gun
A simple reference for what gear to equip in each slot for the most commonly encountered enemy types. Covers main fleet and vanguard weapons and auxiliaries.

classic, i’ve read it many many times
i’m just dumb
it's literally just a series of pictures with overall effectiveness decreasing from left to right, doesn't get much simpler than that
I have these CVs and I want to maximize damage on Heavy Armor Bosses with them. The composition I'm still using is Implac + Shinano + Amagi. Now I have Hakuhou and seeing that she has quite a lot of Torp Bomber slots, I'm considering her to join my fleet. So which CV should I replace? Or should I just ignore Hakuhou?
[ Honestly, I really want Hakuhou to join :") ]
if the boss doesn't move Implacable goes
if it does she would replace one of Amagi or Shinano but because we haven't had any relevant heavy armor bosses lately no one's been able to test
not to mention BBs might edge CVs out against heavy armor anyway
hmm okay, thanks for the suggestion

Okay I’m gonna paste my question here since I didn’t get a definitive answer in general, I dunno if this is the right place to ask but….
do collab ship gacha’s always focus on the special pool in azur lane (like how on unzens banner you can only get perma ships from the heavy banner while pulling)? Or whatever the main girls’ ship type is (like CL) or something? I don’t really know how that works in general for limited banners so
They get rate up on their banner
so this exactly the right place to ask
and to answer yoru question it depends
event pools will with the exception of LNY draw on the heavy or special pool excluding the URs
and usually the hull type of the headlining ship will determine whether it will be heavy or special
Tohka is the closest we'll get for DAL so I would suspect heavy given she's a CA
Ohhhh okay then, thank you very much!! I was wondering how that worked for a while now lol
event pools will with the exception of LNY draw
LNY being light I guess?
yes
Do we get event pulls for 1x cubes then, or just light pool with normal event cost?
same cost as the light pool
because the ships don't get their own event pool, they're directly added to the light pool for a limited time
Ah interesting, that's actually better than I would've expected
uruuhhh...
which guns are good enough for BRS on mob fleet?
id assume just the mk6 and the 155m kai are good, nooooo?
All of them are good because mob is basically what ectl builds for
or just the 155mm. i already have that on her coincidentally
Except BB aux guns for chapter 14
perfect!!!
155 Kai is better for 14, 155 is better elsewhere
what separates the two 
ohhh inrteretsinting
i thought the black and white ones were the exact same
No, they are different colors and the black shell is almost always worse than the white shell where that matters
... oh
so getting the white shell is better anyways
You want 3+ white and 1+ black to start with
oh conveniently i somehow already have one extra white shell
After all, black+white is better than white+white in the cases where you shouldn't use AFCT or HSFCR
well. that's suddenly my BRS's gear done??
mk6, 155mm, bofors staag, white shell, fire control radar
sorry what's AFCT?
ohhh... that one thing im sad not to have and is always in my face :(
Where the hell do I get gifts
Wdym
iirc the island gamemode
yes in the shop
The EX is heavy armor yes?
How do I get down
the rainbow item is 5 points/item, there's 10 in a paid pack otherwise a handful locked behind a lot of grind in island planner
the other items are 1 point/item, those can be bought from the season shop in island planner but you'll need to make enough coin in the mode first
How do I get down!!!! I'm freaking stuck for no reason
Welcome to the island of bugs
leave the mode and come back again and see if you end up some place more reasonable
And I'm still flying
honestly the first time I saw someone launch upwards, most just clip through the floor 
Are logistics plan for 2x rewards not a good idea?
they also spend twice the resources
yes
Bruh how do I get down
Dammnn
the pack is gone though no?
honestly no idea, try restarting the game
as in even those who haven't bought it can't buy it rn
if it doesn't work try asking support
I don't know was it limited time?
But if you're playing island for the gifts, don't
I haven't seen it even on lexi (where I haven't bought the pack)
it's purely for compressing your runs when you don't have time
if you have time we generally prefer just grinding normally so that morale regen doesn't fall behind so much
Man I remember now why I didn't clear this ex the first time around. I think I only managed to do it without too much trouble this time because of four +13 la9s...
only if you were trying to DPS Unzen
I did it with a level 1 fritz and 0 la9 
I-404 worth +13ing two UR torps?
I didn't know there were more than one Type 95 kai
I think what he meant was the torp and oxytorp aux
there's the actual torp and the dildo which is technically a torp
I have 1.4k gold torp plates.
I didn't do it for I-404
whether you think that's worthwhile is 
i thought it was archerfish not albacore
pretty sure last time I saw stig post it was flasher flag/archerfish/404
I've been not paying much attention recently, busy with work, so just catching up on updating comps and trying to remember things I've seen while lurking here.
Does I404 actually do a decent portion of her damage with the plane? I kinda figured that'd be a gimmick.
they are essentially for if you lack time to grind since it doubles everything including the negatives
What is a good fleet I can make with these
when will commission reset
at server reset time, 3:00 AM EST or whatever your local time is
Stick with Penny/Unicorn/Enterprise Portland/Jav/Helena as your single fleet and dont even think of doing a second one until at earliest W9
You currently lack enough good ships to make a 2nd fleet much less even have the resources to do so in the first place
At the very least you could replace Jav with Kiev but eh
limit breaking
i don't see that anywhere. where is that
so like 5 star to 6 star?
and 6 star to 7 star?
yes but the max is 6 stars in the game
ok thx
Isn’t it 2 now
Oh right, daylight savings
Yop lol
I'm on mission 4 now. should i focus on event instead and continue mission later? or push to mission 9 first?
They're called chapters or world BTW but you only have one full day of the event left
Eh you'll live
i have like 7K oil can i got gun if i use all that? i can only do up to the 2nd one
As in stage A2?
yes the first page
Probably not given you can't low cost it

I was gonna do the math then I remembered that only D stages have oil cap so I dont have numbers to work with 
it's your first event and you just started, it was to be expected
Unfortunately for you our next event starts right after this one ends

It's always 2 am EST
just keep pushing 
3-star all of A, which will get you 1,200 event currency - the more stages you can push today the better
do all of the daily event missions for the event currency, then make sure to play each event stage you have unlocked tomorrow for the 3x; even if you end up not being able to afford the UR Gun it'll still be beneficial
they started not even a week ago
i saw - not saying they can get the gun, but there's 0 reason for them to not just keep pushing the event anyway
and they should be able to 3-star A1, A2 & A3 before the event ends
not that would be of much use
ive never really delved into op siren, how hard are these to get?
not hard just tedious, it's just a time sink
where exactly do i get em from
Randomly from floating caches and daily missions aswell as strongholds and abyssal zones
Is prinz adalbert good?
Decent transitional material before you get Anchorage and the CBs
Is agirs cb gun really better for her than the normal/ap rainbow ca guns?
All of the CBs besides Kalaare incentivised to run CB Caliber weaponry in one of their skills
And even ignoring that, CB guns compltely bypass shields so why wouldnt you use them
Ah yeah I guess they're bracketing eh
It only cuts her all out assault volley requirements in half tho
Nvm also boosts eff
retire blue or higher ships
Blues provide 1, purples 4, gold 10, and rainbows 30 for reference
How do I change my team?
formation
If you're referring to operation siren you "order" then "fleet deployment" at an ally/blue harbor
Could you give me a tip on how to get strong fast?
^ read this
the game is a grind, you cant really get strong "quickly"
hi gph
why hard only 3 times a day. how do i even 3 star them all? not to mention i need to farm for unicorn retrofit
Geniunely idk why it's limit to this day, but you 3 star them eventually
3 starring hard mode maps just provides some retro prints aswell as cog chips and arrays at later worlds which can be useful but not really a priority
personally haven't 3 starred them in ages cause of quick clear 
so i guess i should prio unicorn farm first? than 3 star hard yeah?
well you should be 3 starring hard mode stages to get prints to retrofit unicorn
yeah but unicorn only from x-4 yeah?
Early on 3 starring is pretty good
carrier blueprints yes
you can get retrofit prints from other sources too but majority will come from x-4 maps
i mean like i will skip x-1,2,3 and just do x-4 on hard
yes
ok good 👍
you don't need to clear prievous zones you just have access to all the hard modes on that world
Is +13 sext bofors still better than +10 twin 76 and +10 twin 57? Or no? If yes at what level 76 & 57 will beat +13 sext?
+13 sextuple can be better than+13 rainbows only on the ship with the significantly strongest AA slot in the fleet. On the other slots, +10 rainbow will likely be better
is the game faster lately or is it because I just reinstalled the game
i think they did do optimisation recently because my meta fights no longer run at 5 fps and instead a more watchable 10 fps
How to use this?
go to meta showdown screen and start boss fight
100 per battle, so twice a day
+3 support that you can do for fewer point
how many merits do you need to buy all of the merit shop ships
541000
back to pvp grinding i go 
~32k per season if you do and win all pvp, so roughly 16 months just from pvp merit
🫃🏼 damn that's a long time
how many cubes can be earned from dailies / weeklies
also how many of those ships have retros
103
168/month
at least Newcastle and Eldridge
according to wiki anyway, maybe more as of writing nvm it's updated lol just today
and Kinu
is cel grinding %
350 dockspace collection challenge

Isn't a season 2 weeks and not a month?
that's a bit of a wild thought
i just start again for playng azur lane, what should i choose between z23/ laffey/ or javeline : ) ?
doesn't matter
you don't have access to your old account?
They are pretty similar in terms of performance, if you care about minmaxing Z23 for PR points
actually you're right, half of 16 then
smh
this is proof that im not a pvp nerd
i have 450 

no diff
imagine not having 800+
450 challenge sounds doable, if you retire all the non SR UR
600-1000 is "playable"
well except aurora and stuff
collection is easy if u scrap retro 120s, greys, blues, obtainable purples, muse, -chans and dont fully pull collabs 
mid-game, and... broke. i just have 1 fleet and stuck in ch 10-0
that's still a lot better than starting from scratch
especially with the date a live collab dropping in a few days
I might be messed up then
That's most likely fixable unless you were F2P and used all your gems on skins and don't have dock space
no I think they mean its bugged
yeah just have 4000
I remember someone having a completely bugged stage where they couldn't press anything at all and restart didn't fix
huh
im still saving my gems btw
could be misremembering who it was
Then use that account?
and get confused about that
/gems
Gem Spending 101
Gems
in Azur Lane are fairly rare from an F2P perspective. However, the gacha in Azur lane does not require gems and their main usage is expansion of facilities like dorm, academy, docks and depot, as well as buying resources, resource packs, premium items (rings and name change), and skins.
As an F2P, you can get up to 4700 guaranteed gems (3750 for 3* clearing all 15 main campaign worlds, 800 for completing Bands collection and 150 for 8 days login campaign), not counting random gems from commissions or occasional bonuses from events or other sources.
Considering limited availability of gems for F2P players, even if spent exclusively on QoL upgrades, it is impossible to upgrade everything.
This is the recommended way to spend gems as an F2P:
- 3rd Dorm slot (300 gems)
- Dorm 2nd floor (500 gems)
- Dock space (remaining gems)
The main purpose of the dorm is for faster morale regen while grinding. Using ships with 0 morale will receive a 50% exp penalty and lose affinity.
The 2nd floor of the dorm will have the same number of slots as the 1st floor. While it lacks passive exp gain, it has faster morale regen. 3 dorm slots with the 2nd floor gives you a total of 6 slots, which is enough for your whole mob fleet.
Dock space is the biggest constraint for players. While this can help casual players collect all their waifus, there is also practical use in collecting ships - for later levelling to get their fleet tech on reaching lvl 120. These are important for players as they provide crucial additional stats that help players to tackle the hardest content (W14/15, H.Arbiters, CM).
Alternatively, players may consider getting the 3rd Academy slot for faster skill training or more dorm slots instead of just dock space (not recommended).
While players may opt to buy skins/rings with the F2P gems, this will come at the cost of QoL. It is recommended to only buy those with real money 💳.
huh
ok if you're confused you're not gonna learn by starting from scratch because the game doesn't explain stuff to you


