gameplay-help

[knotty jolt]

Helena super squishy plus her retro skill buffs the eva of Eagle union ships which st louis is

[onyx flame]

you had sirius before right? if she was leveled slot her instead of stlouis

[rapid shard]

Helena is squishy af and St Louis is 125

[wet haven]

?

Hold on

one second gentlemen

[void walrus]

She also gives a skill buff to the last ship of the vanguard

[wet haven]

Feel free to compare them.

[rapid shard]

Go sirius

Also need to change aux gear

[wind hazel]

use both, but use better aux gear

[knotty jolt]

do you not have any repair toolkits or naval camoflauges/hydrualic steering wheels?

[onyx flame]

slightly worried about the carrier gear now

[wet haven]

hold on

[rapid shard]

I gave him the suchi Bible lol

[knotty jolt]

pray tell they're all equipped with steam catapults and or aviation tanks

[wet haven]

What should I replace Sirius's auxiliaries equiipment with?

[rapid shard]

Check that link I posted for aux guides

Crusiers are generally HP and EVA gear piece

[knotty jolt]

If you don't got washing machines that icebomb will work well for an EVA aux

[wet haven]

I can fabricate toolkits

[onyx flame]

you already have like 8 dont think you gotta make more

[rapid shard]

You gonna make a lot of those lol basically every vanguard runs at least 1 normally

[onyx flame]

just one toolkit + an eva aux

[knotty jolt]

can never have to many

[onyx flame]

yea but no need to make more for now

if you wanna save depot space, you can sentence the 13 purple sg radar to disintegration too btw as well as the gyros

[wet haven]

I have a Crystal Ice Bomb. Should Sirius equip one?

Or should Sirius equip two Repair Toolkits?

[rapid shard]

Yes. Ice bomb and toolbox

[knotty jolt]

did a quick count of my depot and i got 311 repairkits on my ships

[rapid shard]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Thebombzen/Safe_To_Scrap_MK_II

Also since you almost full on gear slots this should help

[onyx flame]

ah just like me too lazy to unequip em and share thou i havent made that many yet

[wet haven]

Better now?

[knotty jolt]

Oh i +10 them for fleet power i'm broke on coins as a result

[knotty jolt]

looking good now do the same for helena then show us your carriers equipment

Because if this is your vanguard we must see your carriers

[void walrus]

Might be worth it to use Gold SG for helena's skill

[rapid shard]

That would desync too much from carriers

[knotty jolt]

I mean it is an EVA aux but we don't need that

ye like insane says its more for like syncing stuff and this is just tactical daily mission

[rapid shard]

If memory serves using sg on helena drops her to proc at 16sec instead of 20sec and most basic carrier loadouts are around 20-21sec

[wet haven]

Hold on. I'm going to give you comparisons between Helena and Emden to decide better.

[void walrus]

16s with a 10s duration window (with SG, without is 20s+10s)

[wind hazel]

do you not have better vanguard to use than emden? emden really doesn't do anything much for this fleet

[knotty jolt]

take one of the toolkits off emdem put it on helena

then give both a naval camoflauge or hydrualic steering wheel to both

[rapid shard]

Do you have any gold steering wheels?

[knotty jolt]

washingmachines would be better

[wet haven]

One second, please.

[wind hazel]

just noticed he has 565 depot space wtf

[knotty jolt]

wait huh

[tulip tinsel]

why😭 😭

[knotty jolt]

how many gems did that cost you?

[wet haven]

Don't change the subject.

How the Vanguard formation should go? I have St. Louis, Sirius... who else should be the third Vanguard? Helena or Emden?

[rapid shard]

You can expand through guild right?

[knotty jolt]

mightaswell be helena

[onyx flame]

just slot helena and call it a day

[rapid shard]

Tank, helena, sirius

[onyx flame]

sirius, helena, st louis good enuf
should move onto the carrier ngl

[wet haven]

carrier?

[knotty jolt]

your backline

[tulip tinsel]

CV's

[wet haven]

What do you want to know about my backline? They're all CVs.

[tulip tinsel]

what gear. If it's bad planes that's the main issue

[knotty jolt]

Main fleet gear selection is wholy different to vanguard especially so for aircraft carriers

[onyx flame]

it also the bulk of your dmg, esp for this daily so gotta make sure its decent

[knotty jolt]

I feel like we shoulda made a thread for this

[tulip tinsel]

[knotty jolt]

ok first off swap your dive bombers for the SB2C helldivers

[rapid shard]

Beaver badge is for vanguard units not backline

[tulip tinsel]

why one of the shinanos aux that gold badge and not steam cata

[onyx flame]

these bad boys are gonna be with you for life

[rapid shard]

Also just because its gold doesnt equal good. Especially for planes

[onyx flame]

but other than that only thing that needs to change is for the aux to be steam cata, preferable golds but purple/tank is not the worse options

but yea after that it should be fairly doable

[knotty jolt]

I will say tho to not put any more gold plates into that sea fang

[wet haven]

The Dive Bombers of the three shipgirls have been replaced with the SB2C Helldivers.

What else should I do?

[knotty jolt]

that should be good

Oh right remove the beaver badge of shinano

[wet haven]

with what?

[onyx flame]

change the aux that arent steam catapults/aviation oil tanks to steam catapults/aviation oiltanks

prefearable gold steam catapults but if you dont have enuf purple will suffice

[viscid swift]

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide

[wet haven]

one moment

Forgive me, it's difficult for me to focus when there are lots of people in my house shouting about politics. Give me a minute.

[loud scarab]

i have been doing the daily activities and buying some of the weekly gifts in the private quarters mode, i don't buy all of them because once they start costing 4k coins each it's too expensive, at least i thought it was but at this point i don't know what to do since the new ships are coming out faster than the time i take to max their intimacy. anybody knows what is the amount of weekly gifts i have to buy to get enough intimacy to outpace the release schedule?

[wind hazel]

you will always be behind without buying those gifts that cost gem

[deft kettle]

is unzen another new ur ship?

[loud scarab]

this game has been going down the shitter for a while eh

[tulip tinsel]

no she's not new

[knotty jolt]

old rerun

[wind hazel]

... they are optional

[deft kettle]

is she worth it?

[tulip tinsel]

it legit has no effect in main gameplay

[knotty jolt]

She's optional ur

[tulip tinsel]

if you want a dps vanguard

but it's not the top prio as the main fleet does it's thing

[deft kettle]

i already got lion and bis zwei, plus my newly Vanguard that needs to be 6 star

[viscid swift]

well the date a live collab is probably next week

[wet haven]

How about now, fellas?

[tulip tinsel]

much better

[knotty jolt]

That second dive bomber on saratoga also needs to become an sb2c

but otherwise perfect

[wet haven]

oh right, replacing it

[deft kettle]

with this i dont think i need unzen right?

[lyric flume]

Is the new UR submarine worth putting all my recourses into atm ?

[wet haven]

I have the feeling that I got what I need. I'll post the results tomorrow.

[knotty jolt]

hell no

Shes the best submarine but subs are entirely optional stuff

[wet haven]

Thank you, everyone of you for your help.

[lyric flume]

I like never use submarines bc I feel like I don’t have any good ones

[knotty jolt]

You're probably doing fine enough without them

[tulip tinsel]

they are for w15 and arbiters

[eternal basalt]

Stream 17, so that's a given

[onyx flame]

do put her into your sub fleet just for that crossfleet buff

[knotty jolt]

currently isn't best sub fleet i404, archerfish, flasher?

[viscid swift]

oh they finally announced a date

[eternal basalt]

https://twitter.com/azurlane_staff/status/1987837653090550234

[onyx flame]

oh that tohka

[tidal dust]

Why is sandy earning less xp than the rest?

[onyx flame]

morale prob

her morale isnt above 120 compared to the other so she loses 20% exp boost

[tulip tinsel]

[turbid dawn]

So this is current OpSi fleets I'm running and I'm wondering if there's anyway to optimise my mobbing fleet anymore? Uni+Shimi for instant wave clearing, Sushi with Mikasa gun at 14s and Indep for 15s with Hinden as sustained DPS+Brest being tanky. Is there a better tank with higher damage for example ofr a better torp user then Shimi etc? Heck even small changes with other fleets is welcome too

[tulip tinsel]

Why meck with 2 ijn cv's

[knotty jolt]

I can only think of more preloads like ibuki with torps and persues with airstrikes

[viscid swift]

yes but it involves stripping ships from other fleets

not to mention these days teh focus is on optimizing C1 clear times

[turbid dawn]

Just highest Anti-heavy DPS

[knotty jolt]

but meck works better with zwei

[turbid dawn]

And hmmm will it be the case where I can still 1 shot the hard boss if you did swap stuff round?

[tulip tinsel]

[viscid swift]

the only remotely "hard boss" is Harbiter which you only do once a month anyway so

[knotty jolt]

You can always swap stuff back around before entering the fight arena tho

[turbid dawn]

Yeah thats what I mean because tbh I still use my 'mobbing' fleet for every boss fight because I just kinda forget or cba to swap between each 1

Apart from Harbiter

[hollow gust]

What's the point of highest dps when half of it whiffs

[viscid swift]

I mean you don't need Lion or Unzen to one shot a harbiter so no

[tulip tinsel]

where freeze for that top heavy dps

[hollow gust]

Lion Mecky Biscuit should kill basically all harbys

[forest palm]

The first fleet is powrcrept by that comp

[hollow gust]

Ships are so overtuned these days , basically anything works . You want consistency not balls deep dps

Z52 Traffy Plymmy Elridge

[gray rose]

W15 fleet

[turbid dawn]

Okay then Ill se that, and if that's the case what would be the best mob fleet to build?

[hollow gust]

That's personal preference

[knotty jolt]

lots of preloads to just whipe everything the moment it spawns

[hollow gust]

That's just not true

It's the same philosophy as not using unicorn and Percy together

[turbid dawn]

Goddamn I keep forgetting Trafalgar and Hakuhou exist, haven't used either one once since getting them 125

[hollow gust]

Trafalgar is a Aurora that works on every boss , and she buffs the best Bb ingame

[stark quiver]

What abt the spawns after

[knotty jolt]

stuff usually works out for me

[stark quiver]

Me when I use full preloads to fight c1

[forest palm]

I use Musashi + Alsace + Percy for mobbing

[knotty jolt]

kills everything then the next wave spawns ontop of the current wave of torps from planes

[turbid dawn]

Yeah I still only ever use Aurora on the META fights so that would explain it

[stark quiver]

I use my PvP fleet for ops mobbing

[forest palm]

PvP

[turbid dawn]

This is what I'm up to now, idk what to do with the main fleet for mobbing

[hollow gust]

Midsashi and Hindenbleh

[turbid dawn]

I mean the reason I use them both atm is Sushi is great for screen clear at 14s with Mikasa gun and Hinden is pretty good at just cleaning up because the amount she shoots, But I am always up for ones to swap them with

[desert cove]

does opsi get that hard holy

[turbid dawn]

Not particularly it's just trying to optimise it so I don't have to spend so long doing it

Between life+job don't get that much time to do shit so

[desert cove]

ah

i hate interacting with opsi

[candid gale]

Do i need buy limited ship on guild shop? Because IM not seeing in wiki

[knotty jolt]

some come from other sources

[viscid swift]

most of those you can only get from there yes

[candid gale]

So i must buy it?, if yes, what ship must i pick

[knotty jolt]

Those other sources tho are usually build tho like jupiter is from light construction

[knotty jolt]

Literally none they're not worth it

[candid gale]

Alright thanks sir

[warm latch]

none of them are worth buying, its just that for most of them thats the only place to get them

[candid gale]

Hmm i see thanks , Good thing I didn't pick it

[knotty jolt]

Outside of tech or stats there's no reason to spend your guild currency on them. Better to spend it on the consumable items in the shop like gold plates skill books and such

plus you can spend the currency to refresh the shop to double down on those stuff ie double amount of gold plates per rotation

[candid gale]

Ahh ,but i look in guide i must pick character too

[sweet delta]

The guide doesn't say to pick Limited

[candid gale]

Yeah that i mean

[woven star]

Do you have Unicorn or Pennsylvania?

[dry ice]

[candid gale]

Only unicorn

[woven star]

Iirc Pennsylvania in a guide as pick up from guild shop. But I think you can have better variants

[onyx flame]

penny is a placeholder for bbs

[gilded carbon]

what is the best method to get more Crystal Fragments?

aside from the weekly 8, wich really isnt much

[forest palm]

there is no real method, it's not exactly farmable unless there's a meta in an event...

[gilded carbon]

these ones? Hm, did i miss them in the last event that had a Meta...

[forest palm]

you only get them from weekly, arbiter, and subsequent dups of an MLB meta

[gilded carbon]

or i google it ^^' my bad. But thanks for the answer

[forest palm]

like Isaid you just don't farm them, unless an event has a map drop meta

[sweet delta]

https://azurlaneecgc.com/common_resource/#/Crystal_Fragments

[gilded carbon]

a game of patience it is. Lucky me, im good at that XD

<- wants Sheffield-Meta

[gilded carbon]

i wasnt aware an over-due copy of an Meta-ship would give you these, sry

[forest palm]

I think it's like 10 crystal per extra dupe....been a while

[gilded carbon]

i dont think i ever got an Meta-ship from drop of whom i had all crystals already

[candid gale]

I think i pick Portland instead pennsyl, is that good choice?

Is there any Redeem code?

[forest palm]

nope

[candid gale]

Ohh ok

[leaden mountain]

how do u get combat data packs?

[knotty jolt]

The battle pass

[stark quiver]

There was during anniversary stream

[candid gale]

I see thanks info

[eternal basalt]

And visitors of New Jersey and Maille got one

[daring oracle]

how big of an improvement is fs5 shimanto compared to dev lvl 30

also is it worth running the prototype 150 mm for the efficiency boost

[viscid swift]

it's pretty sizeable upgrade

[soft raft]

You can refresh the shop to then get Pennsylvania

[flat wraith]

Is there a diffrence between fighting your own meta showdown and helping someone else dmg wise?
I find it strange that when I fight yuudachi meta i do like 680-740kdmg
But when I do boss fights to help someone i do like 490-530k
Its to huge diffrence to be burn related and its evry time.
Same fleet, same gear.

[viscid swift]

there's a support barrage that starts around a month into the season for your own showdowns

[flat wraith]

And it deals so much? +/- 200k? its wierd

[viscid swift]

yeah it's around 200k toward the end of the season

[flat wraith]

And second question
OPSI
Adaptive Tuning of 203 / 203 / 156 is the hard cap? or its a soft cap for stats
In one sentance, is it worth getting more that this.

[tulip tinsel]

it gets stronger by time passes

[viscid swift]

no

[scarlet cosmos]

Is hindenburg only usuable at pr30

[sweet delta]

Depends on what usable means, but she has a large spike from 29 to 30

[atomic abyss]

it's like what, 1/3 dmg increase?

[rain bobcat]

id say its more

since it gives her the ability to pen straight through shields

[safe nexus]

Anyone here worth building? I want to get izumo gonna need to grind exp for any of these ships

[atomic abyss]

honestly, all of them have excellent fleet tech bonus

[safe nexus]

As in worth to lvl 120 all?

[atomic abyss]

yes

[safe nexus]

Nice, any of them good for being a my fleets?

[atomic abyss]

CV reload is more important than BB reload admittedly

hiryuu is a nice early game option for pvp
shouhou is a healer
thats about it

[gilded carbon]

if you do take Yamashiro, take a look at her beforehand. Her Retrofit is... dicey

[atomic abyss]

just dont retro them

[safe nexus]

Ye I just saw, quite special idk what's good about it

[atomic abyss]

nothing, it makes her worse, same for fusou

[gilded carbon]

as in, not good sadly. it has its problem

[atomic abyss]

at least hyuuga's doesnt make her worse

[safe nexus]

I'm so glad I didn't thx, so none are wort to retrofit?

[atomic abyss]

shouhou if you want to use her as a healer ig

hiryuu retro is good but expensive

[safe nexus]

I see thx

[gilded carbon]

Yama can use parts of her retrofit, but only before her upgrade. Buuuut, if these few stat-boosts (sometimes called half-kai?) are worth it?

[safe nexus]

I'm kinda lazy and wanna use bulin on them ngl

[safe nexus]

(I upgraded a bit cause they were cheap and I had spares) :D

[gilded carbon]

stop before modernization then

[safe nexus]

OK thx

[hazy olive]

Hakuhou and Shouhou are probably worth it. Hakuhou is an excellent, if not the best damage carrier, and Shouhou is a decent healer in a pinch.

I believe Shouhou retrofit is a reasonable choice, but frankly unicorn is better, it’s only if you want squishies in fleet 2

[midnight turret]

How come when i challange a hard stage they instantly give me the boss?

Challenge*

[gilded carbon]

there is a little button on the bottom right when you have selected the stage, its called "clearing mode" or something

[hazy olive]

Still wonder whether Impero is worth building

[gilded carbon]

you can toggle it there. Unless you want to 3* the stage, you really only want the boss and that gives that to you

[hazy olive]

(And you do want to 3* the stage it gives you free retros, and you can quit before boss fights, to save hard battles)

[gilded carbon]

eventually you do, when you can do so easily, yes

[midnight turret]

Ty

[gilded carbon]

no problem

[rain bobcat]

hakuhou is only competitive as a carrier against heavy armour

[long hull]

Does it matter which SP I sortie (SP1, 2, 3) to get the most amount of points for this event I’m tryna max it out before it ends

[eternal basalt]

SP3 gives the most points

[rain vine]

do each map once daily, then run sp3 until 11k points

[long hull]

thank

[fast frigate]

How to get tech points for shipyard

[ivory pawn]

/fleettech

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Q: How do I get more fleet technology points?
You get fleet tech points by:
Collecting the ship (~20%)
Max Limit Breaking it (~45%)
Achieving level 120 (~35%)

-Higher rarity ships gives more fleet tech pts .
-Heavier ship hulls also gives more fleet tech pts: CV=BB>CA>CL>DD

Side notes:
-PR ships give more fleet tech pts than normal but follow the above formula with development 30 replacing MLB.
-META ships are considered a separate META faction. They give same bonuses as their non-META versions.
-Collab ships, Muse and little versions of ships e.g. Li'l Sandy, Clevelad and Lena etc do not give any fleet tech pts.
-Iron Blood faction ships receive double the normal tech points compared to other nations.

For more information and exact amounts, consult the wiki
You can also use this Fleet Tech Tracker by mrlar

[slender turtle]

If i have a skin coupon from that musashi pack, does it just last forever till i use it on a skin in the shop?

[grave cove]

Just got to 12-4 on campaign. What level should I be grinding ships to?

[midnight turret]

What is the max chapter?

[ivory pawn]

15

[ivory pawn]

Time to start working on getting fleet tech at 120. Or just raising generally good ships to 120.

[midnight turret]

What comes after ch 15

[ivory pawn]

Collect waifus, enjoy the game, uninstall, it's up to you.

[midnight turret]

Oh

[ivory pawn]

If you want to push making your fleets the best, there's raising ships to 120 for fleet tech, and trying to oneshot the META or complete event EXs.

[midnight turret]

Ok

[grave cove]

Cool thanks

[peak fable]

are Wyverns a better choice than Tenrais for starters? was thinking that Helldivers do the job well enough, but good Wyvern alternatives are hard to come by.

[midnight turret]

Wait how do i get gems after chapter 15??

[peak fable]

that's the neat part, you don't (you can still get them randomly through commissions or maintenance compensations, assuming you have fully completed all gem related quests)

[midnight turret]

Oh no rip me

[peak fable]

oh wait, I actually forgot the best way to get gems: spending money

[midnight turret]

Well fuck me ig

[hollow gust]

They use different resources? Unless you mean +13 then it's neither

[peak fable]

I guess I meant it more as in, well, which is more important to have if you can only have one

[quiet kiln]

Do i place musashi as flagship or not? Because if i don't she gets the 30% damage reduction. I'm running double cv

[rapid shard]

Flag her

[hollow gust]

She still gets her damage reduction

[rain bobcat]

read again

[quiet kiln]

Reading comprehension devil strikes again

Do i need to buy independence or are my current cvs fine, planning to use the 1200 core data for bellamy cat instead

[viscid swift]

she might still have a use depending on the content you plan to tackle

[wind hazel]

you're fine up to w14 ish

start raising that aquila

real question is why you wanna buy bellamy instead of indep

[quiet kiln]

Im buying bellamy if i can get away with not buying indep, but doesn't seem like it

[wind hazel]

great ship>mid cat
make the better choice

[quiet kiln]

Why raise aquila? Do i need double healers on w15?

[wind hazel]

having a secondary healer for w14 w15 is a massive help to keep sustain

[quiet kiln]

What about perseus

[wind hazel]

unicorn is better than her

[quiet kiln]

Can't i just use them together? Since i need double healers anyway

[wind hazel]

main healer is not secondary healer

their healing work differently than of perseus or unicorn's

[quiet kiln]

I have musashi and unzen rerun is coming, should i start using shinano?

[wind hazel]

she's not mlb so no dont use her

[quiet kiln]

forgot about the mlb

[quiet kiln]

Should i craft the 406 mk7 or georgia gun first

[wind hazel]

you can buy one 457 from protocore shop so you don't need to craft any

well, the prints of it, to craft 1

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/gear-lab/

use this to guide yourself on what to craft

[fathom burrow]

Is there anywhere to go to see some kind of specifics on what you are buying with exclusive dorm furniture?

[quiet kiln]

Alr thanks

[soft raft]

I dont think anyone's given enough of a fuck to catalouge dorm furniture to that extent

At least on the English community side

[fathom burrow]

It's just annoying because you can't find out in game what any of it is or does really without buying

couldn't even preview the 3d model of furniture

[safe nexus]

thx for the tips

[grave cove]

Whats my best option if I accidently upgraded a piece of equipment too many times?

[sweet delta]

What equipment and how many times?

[grave cove]

Av oil tank +8. Didnt realize to stop at +6

[sweet delta]

I don't see any problem with that unless you already have 6 gold catapults

[grave cove]

I currently have 3 gold catapults

[river junco]

anyone know the number of gold plates needed to +13 a la9?

[sweet delta]

360 like all rainbow gear

[river junco]

ok, thanks!

[crystal flume]

is there cap point for this?

[viscid swift]

we don't know, people have already hit over a million and still not been capped

[crystal flume]

good can just ignore it then
thank you

[vale spindle]

you probably should still buy every so often cause you can't spend them all at once due to the amount caps

[spark patio]

this gun good?

[rain bobcat]

napoli? good for heavy armor

[stark quiver]

How do I delete files on Azur lane
I have fallen victim to high storage req

[spark patio]

i have both types too

[rain bobcat]

her CL secondary is good for med

[rain bobcat]

can u not do it in settings?

[wispy cosmos]

the triple 254 is a great ap ca gun, the triple 152 m1936 is pretty irrelevant

[outer robin]

What’s the best pound for pound plane thag gives avi stats for w15

[rain bobcat]

[knotty jolt]

Can ya be more specific cause dive bombers torpedo bombers and fighters are not equal

[outer robin]

Fighter planes

[knotty jolt]

Flapjacks

[outer robin]

How come it’s not th wyvern?

[rain bobcat]

that's not even a fighter

[knotty jolt]

Cause that's a torpedo.bomber

[robust onyx]

Wyvern are Torpedo bomber

[outer robin]

Welp I’m a dumbass then

[knotty jolt]

Understandable confusion as they are capable of interception like fighters

[outer robin]

Okay so does steam catapults matter for the avi stat in w15 support fleet

[viscid swift]

yes

[rain bobcat]

yes

[viscid swift]

fighter AA does scale off AVI stat after all

[outer robin]

Sigh well back to the drawing board

[viscid swift]

I mean if you're in W15, 14 gold steam catapults isn't exactly unreasonable

[stark quiver]

idk thats why im asking here

[rain bobcat]

I checked, you can

[stark quiver]

nice

[grizzled ferry]

what commander level do you need to unlock limited skins?

[stark quiver]

15

[grizzled ferry]

ty

[spark patio]

one good for medium one for heavy ?

[outer robin]

No that wasn’t the issue I think k found my issue not nearly enough avi and aa

[viscid swift]

What

[rain bobcat]

steam cata's literally give you avi?

[knotty jolt]

How about just posting the fleets you're using for w15

cause it's starting to sound like it's not a gear issue

[outer robin]

Well for one I had seriously shitty support CV loadout and I also for some reason not taking out the enemy support fleet

I’m not very good at making fleet comps and gear setups

[knotty jolt]

If ya need further help and fleet optimization I recommend creating a thread, post your ships in there and someone should be able to further assist

[sweet delta]

16

[night knoll]

W14 & W15 Fleet Formation, need help

[cunning bone]

in opsi who should i put together with i-404?

[knotty jolt]

archerfish and flasher

[cunning bone]

who should be in the middle?

[rain bobcat]

flasher

[cunning bone]

thankyou

btw the new cat teach is she a cv buffer?

[stark quiver]

yes

[near cargo]

To date which Collab has the strongest girls in one full fleet lineup?

Because I want to build at least one full fleet with them maxed

[wispy cosmos]

ryza

[rain bobcat]

definitely ryza

[cobalt robin]

finally want a proper sub fleet, is i404 worth mlb?

[hollow gust]

Shes strong but other URs far more important

Not to mention Ironblood works perfectly fine

[cobalt robin]

dont have any urs who could use the bullins

[cobalt robin]

so stick with 47, 81 and 552?

[hollow gust]

I don't remember what's the best ironblood comp anymore; even then that comp is still more then sufficient

[cobalt robin]

i remember reading that 552 is bad for campaign

[knotty jolt]

Problem with 552 is she's not submerged at the start at the battle and subs are squishy

[sweet delta]

i remember writing that 552 is bad for campaign

[cobalt robin]

i knew i read it somewhere i just forgor where

[cobalt robin]

so who should i use instead?

[knotty jolt]

U96 would be a better option

Plus she got an augment that is nice

[cobalt robin]

say less

[cobalt robin]

so 47, 81 and 96?

[knotty jolt]

Ye

[eternal basalt]

(Then its ruined because tyou want I-404 in there)

[knotty jolt]

I404 not limit broken can't use even if they wanted

Better to use the UR bulins on other URs plus to wait for the new UR in December

[cobalt robin]

well i have 18k protocore so i could

[knotty jolt]

Subs are entirely optional don't use ur bulins on a sub

[cobalt robin]

yea ik but im at a point where i have excess bullins

[eternal basalt]

Then it's good she's the SOLE exeption on the UR need to be maxxed rule

[cobalt robin]

the urs i have already mlb beside shinano

[knotty jolt]

Again I say hold off till we see the new UR in December

[cobalt robin]

unzen should be getting a rerun soon no?

[eternal basalt]

Thursday

[knotty jolt]

Yes few days now

[cobalt robin]

tempesta took too many of my cubes 😔

[eternal basalt]

You get 45 tickets during the rerun anyways

[cobalt robin]

45 damn

[eternal basalt]

Oh, 44. 45 is CN/JP

[cobalt robin]

unzen worth getting right?

[knotty jolt]

She's good but not mandatory

She definitely has some problems that make her a less priority compared to other URs

[cobalt robin]

these are my urs

[knotty jolt]

Ya likely fine with or without her

[cobalt robin]

hmm tough decision

well ill just hope i get her with the tickets

[oblique valley]

is vanguard still worth getting for a bossing fleet?
i’ve got alsace musashi bismarck
or are there better options coming to the pity pool

[knotty jolt]

You're fine without her

[oblique valley]

does she buff bb dmg by a lot

[knotty jolt]

She can but we got other options

Plus bossing fleets are different depending on the content like opsi compared to campaign

[next escarp]

My tickets will go for Owari

[oblique valley]

opsi i’m trying to clear the hard arbiter 🫠

[fleet berry]

Well Unzen gimmick is doing big damage, especially if buffed by Amagi CV, but she can do by her own. She doesn't do any buff, so a lot of time, she is replaced.

If you have enough cubes to pity her and pity December UR, I don't see why not pulling for her. Also remember that DAL collab is running soon, if that's also your cup of tea.

I404, I'll probably hold the bullins, but I'll slowly raise her for future use. At the minimum, using her for x-fleet bonus is pretty nice. Forgot which skill it is, probably the 2nd one; someone need to correct me.

Throw books if you have excess to level her too.

[cobalt robin]

i have 490 cubes rn and i kinda like collecting characters, do we know when the collab is?

[eternal basalt]

Next week

[knotty jolt]

Soon

[fleet berry]

Literally after Unzen rerun.

[eternal basalt]

Stream 17

[cobalt robin]

so soon 😔

[crimson glacier]

theres collab?

[cobalt robin]

im gone for 1 week and everything coming out

[eternal basalt]

https://twitter.com/azurlane_staff/status/1987837653090550234

[crimson glacier]

right

[fleet berry]

Well, if you like collecting, I'll probably skip Unzen for DAL because DAL is not guaranteed to rerun. But as Hassat said, you might be lucky with the tickets.

FWIW I'm more of a meta guy; I skipped Ryza 1st run to save for Y2, kek.

[cobalt robin]

i got everyone from ryza and yumia

[sharp socket]

will more levels fix this farming fleet for 12-4

[stark quiver]

No but I think more limit break would

And not doing 12-4 would also help

[eternal basalt]

Not doing 12-4??? But yes, limit breaks

[fleet berry]

12-1 should be much easier at least, with not much loss in rewards.

[rain bobcat]

doing 12-4 with no AA and no max mlb backline is suicide to say the least

[red sapphire]

Is this a good fleet?

[wind hazel]

change anchorage's torp
if the CV sync it's a good fleet for ST boss

for heavy

[red sapphire]

Yes, the CV sync. I have one more quads for Ancho

[wind hazel]

not quad, give her this

[red sapphire]

Just to make sure, order should be Haku -> AvP -> Shinano, right?

[red sapphire]

Oh I will check if I have

[wind hazel]

as long as avp is 2nd

[red sapphire]

I do have, nice

[red sapphire]

Yes she is

Thanks

[fierce lantern]

I have every UR except for Unzen Laffey II and Yorktown II, can I skip unzen safely

[wind hazel]

depends on how many cubes you have

might even be lucky to get her for free with tickets

[fierce lantern]

I’ve got about 40 cubes so I’m a little poor

[wind hazel]

"little"

just skip her, pray you get lucky with free tickets, but don't use your cubes

spread them to 3 tickets a day until end of event

[flint fiber]

is Marseillaise any good?

[fierce lantern]

Alright

[wind hazel]

no but FP CL tech@lv120, that's it

[flint fiber]

oh ok thanks so much for the info

[scarlet cosmos]

What are some bbs that are good at both mob and boss

[wind hazel]

most of the top UR BBs can do well in both

[slow fox]

information jumpscare

[rain bobcat]

[slow fox]

I plan on gathering more data (N=100) per ship.

Also plan on doing the same test for Large BB nodes, Large CV nodes, and boss fight.

[rain bobcat]

have you figured out who to use as backline finally?

[slow fox]

Musashi SoDak Mecklenberg

[rain bobcat]

ah basically the fattest people lmao

[slow fox]

Typo for the L/M/H.

--> 0.303/0.357/0.340

[rain bobcat]

accurate w15 ehp soon tm?

[slow fox]

This data presents information that is 1/3 of the way to 1/4 of the way to halfway completion of W15 eHP data, yeah.

...4% complete...

[slow fox]

Observation about this value is that it's close to 0.33/0.33/0.33 AKA you don't need to consider armor types when dealing with W15 recon.

Note that this is with zero AA interception.

[woven star]

SoDak?

[rain bobcat]

south dakota

[slow fox]

(It's actually closer to 0.3/0.35/0.35)

(( AKA W15 deals less damage to light armor ))

-# ((( for large recon nodes )))

[rain bobcat]

the most annoying thingg with using DD vanguard w15 is AI anyway

you can lose 50% hp in 3s justbecause of ramming

[slow fox]

Ramming eHP mutsuki

If there was a nonheuristic way to determine the average damage ratio from ramming -

• then I could incorporate ramming into eHP calculations.

[rain bobcat]

i've seen my eldridge explode due to ramming

zuihou the real mvp

[fleet berry]

So, the old consensus of 'don't use heavy armour vanguard due to torp damage' is busted then? At least for large recon?

[icy hill]

AI?

[wind hazel]

their auto movement

[hot oriole]

hm....

do I need 2 fleets for w13?

[fleet berry]

You should start preparing for two fleets before pushing to W11.

You probably can 1-fleet W13 with good ships and equipment, but not a lot of people ready/can.

[hot oriole]

time to build a boss fleet

[wind hazel]

why havent you

[hot oriole]

W13+ fleet building

[slow fox]

-# apparently. I'll say so for sure at like N = 100

[glass niche]

https://suchiguma.github.io/deepresearch/submarine-calculator/
This one calculator base on 80s or 90s fights?

[wind hazel]

i dont think that matter

but maybe im wrong

[hot oriole]

Hmmm

What if I sandwich Maggiore between U-81 and U-96?

[woven star]

I think subs retreat before 80sec unless maybe tempesta ships

[cobalt rapids]

i404 the highest oxy ship only stays for like ~45s with snorkel so yes it doesnt matter
also theres no 80s fights ( showdowns ) that subs can participate in

[glass niche]

ah yes I forgot they are oxygen base...

[rose whale]

is hestia useful for anything?

[cobalt rapids]

good for taking space in dock

[tulip tinsel]

nice for medals

[rose whale]

[wind hazel]

umazing for 12-1 vanguard mvp rigging grindfest

[woven star]

~~yeah, just like in anime. seating at home while everyone around doing her job in dungeons ~~

[tulip tinsel]

fr

[forest palm]

stream on the 17th

3 back to back events wild

[fleet berry]

Yeah, that's an interesting preliminary result at least.

[rapid summit]

What’s the main thing submarines are good for?

[weary gust]

Extra damage

[forest palm]

You could entirely ignore subs, and still clear all content (sub raids aside), but it's extra free damage so it can help with pushing harder content.

[balmy skiff]

yo has anyone got that ships needed for CM,META and Story tier list???

[wind hazel]

/tierlist

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Ship Tier Lists

Please note that tier lists are subjective and evaluation criteria differ from creator to creator. We encourage users to use multiple guides to get a better picture for ships' performance and said criteria.

🔹Rankings for End Game Azur Lane - Applicable to all forms of late game content (W14/15, META Showdowns, OPSI, CM) by Suchiguma
🔹CN tier list - by NGA Forum

use /equip for list of equipment TLs and guides
use /guide for list of helpful gameplay guides and FAQs

[rapid summit]

I might look into them then

[brazen timber]

Hey hey
What war archive worth to farm ?

[wind hazel]

Which War Archives should I do?

"I NEED IRONBLOOD TECH!!"
Divergent Chessboards

"I need to get to chapter 9 but I am only lv49 sobz"
Passionate Polaris/Universe in Unison's SP5 for Commander EXP, it is oil capped without fleet requirement

"I missed Eldridge retro item..."
Skybound Oratorio for Jeanne d'Arc

"I like PVP 🤓"
Rondo at Rainbow's End for Seydlitz

"But what about gear?"
Not worth the oil, go spend it at ongoing event or chapter 12.

[pearl quarry]

Hello, I've returned to this game after a very long time. I'm wondering, is the current banner worth pulling or not?

[eternal basalt]

The current banner can be gotten for feee with basic grinding, soooo...

[lyric flume]

Can someone help me make some decent sub teams

[wind hazel]

continue using the first 3

[lyric flume]

I have these + I-25

[wind hazel]

keep using wolf until you can make these in the future

[forest palm]

404 honestly doesn't justify using full IJN

[tidal walrus]

Just developed my first ship. Should I get this?

[lyric flume]

I have a UR torpedo who should i throw that on?

[hot oriole]

can I use U-81, U-96 and Maggiore as flagship?

[wind hazel]

keep it, just use snorkel+pressure hull

[wind hazel]

if you dont have any better

[hot oriole]

alr

[wind hazel]

no, keep it for better one

https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/augment-modules

[tidal walrus]

Hmm I got it
So I should keep my resources for the better tier ones

[wind hazel]

that, and ship you're actually using. if you just got louis then she's probably dev1 lol, which isn't useable

[pearl quarry]

Does Starcourage get an oath skin now? I forgot her name

[viscid swift]

what

[tulip tinsel]

I don't think there's a ship called starcourage

and there are no new oath skin releases rn

[turbid marsh]

Strasbourg?

[sinful socket]

it costs 20k to get 1 to +10 so no, not right now (especially not Saint Louis)

[woven star]

Anchorage + Strasburg oath skin?

[wind hazel]

[tulip tinsel]

She doesn't have oath skin

[turbid marsh]

yes, too new to have an oath skin XD

[nova crane]

im running out of dock space help!!! what ship should i retire

😭

[safe nexus]

no common or rare?

[safe nexus]

preferably to not retire any ship, only dupes

[tulip tinsel]

retire non unobtainable ones

[spark patio]

any gears worth crafting? also how many fire control radar should i hold

[ivory pawn]

Three’s a good number. Enough for one fleet, and you can swap gears around in most cases you need more.

[safe nexus]

definitely the AA, best check guides for ships and see if anything worth crafting

[deft kettle]

guys is hakuhou good in a mob fleet or a boss fleet? just finished mlb her

[onyx flame]

hazemaker and daisen gun if you got musashi (best ap gun for her)

[deft kettle]

so hakuhou shall go in the boss fleet?

[onyx flame]

yea boss, she could work in mob but she function better in boss especially against heavy armor boss

[undone plover]

Ideally 3 for bossing
2 is usually enough for campaign

But more is better so u dont have to gear swap a lot
Late game every BB runs 1 hpfcr by default unless timing shenanigans force u to swap to double shell

[sweet delta]

3 minus the number of rainbow AFCT you have . Also, do not enhance them past +10

[red sapphire]

High standard fire control radar is bis for most of BBs (+ white shell), hazemayer can be used to craft STAAG on gear lab (and itself provide acc), Daizen gun for Musashi when fighting Medium/Heavy armor and type 95 as placeholder until you get the URs for I-404 cross fleet (unless you actually use submarines)

You can ignore type 95 probably

[sweet delta]

Gold type 93 may be used for submarine weekly raid

[deft kettle]

should i swap planes atm for hakuhou?

[red sapphire]

Try to get a Helldiver for slot two and for 3rd slot I would use Tenzan

Until you get the replacements

[onyx flame]

if its in campaign barracuda is fine

just find a gold one

[deft kettle]

okie

[red sapphire]

Yeah, will do fine

[deft kettle]

question is who will i replace on my boss fleet with hakuhou

[weary edge]

was it jintsuu who’s the only really decent meta?

[sweet delta]

Jintsuu is meta in some niches, and several other metas are just decent but not top meta

[deft kettle]

do i replace enterprise with hakuhou?

[sweet delta]

If you're using Hood on the other fleet, then Haku replaces Bisz and bisz replaces Hood

[weary edge]

you really wanna use another ijn main fleet ship with hakuhou

[red sapphire]

Have you cleared newbie handbook? You can get Shinano/NJ from there

Shinano pairs very well with Hakuhou and other CVs

[bleak junco]

Wrong chat

[safe nexus]

what other case that requires her to use something else?

[onyx flame]

if your fighting any heavy bosses you run all converging torpedo bombers

[wet haven]

Really quickly, guys, thanks for helping me yesterday with my Tactical Training Aviation level 100. You are awesome.

[safe nexus]

oh just like that ok thx

[grave cove]

Once you get the last meta crystal for dossiers is it worth finishing them?

Getting the rest of the sync rewards I mean

[river junco]

I mean you rack up dossiers anyways, if you want the sync rewards then go for it

[stoic forge]

What's the best cl gun avaliable all time?

[onyx flame]

prob ply gun

[stoic forge]

That one is too hard for me

[grave cove]

I guess more what I'm asking is how far do i go before switching the ship to sync

[river junco]

In this case you can probably go to last crystal then finish the rest of the dossier once you’ve caught up to all the archived metas

[grave cove]

Cool ty

[stoic forge]

Should i invest in this gun

[viscid swift]

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/gear-lab
no

[stoic forge]

I guess i just get 155

[weary edge]

i dont have zwei and i dont think i have any ships with a pulling effect unless there's some obscure gold/purple ship that has it. for when i start using meck would it be better to find a ship other than zwei with a pulling effect or just disregard the extra 5% damage

[onyx flame]

pretty sure the only pulling effect is zwei, unless there some obscure ship that does it

[sweet delta]

Lala and charybdis so just give up the 5%

[olive cedar]

Any helpful tips on how to get coins fast in Island Planner?

[sweet delta]

You should ask in https://discord.com/channels/456397991847395339/1422463299877867540

[olive cedar]

Thanks

[clear harbor]

I know getting a ship to 120 gives stat bonuses. But adding a ship to my collection also gives stat bonuses?

[harsh cliff]

Will the musashi bunny skin be in the black Friday thing?

[woven star]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Fleet_Technology first table stats from collection. Second at lvl 120

[tulip tinsel]

some ships give tech stats just from obtaining them, but not every one

[woven star]

Online "little" version and colab don't have stats afaik

[tulip tinsel]

yea those don't

[smoky citrus]

Which is better? shiumkaze or musashi?

[tulip tinsel]

at what? but musashi if perma exchange

[smoky citrus]

I already have a lot of back liners like mikasa, nagato, shinana etc. but not that many garevangaurd

ur exhange

...fuck it, I wanted the bunny skin anyways

[sweet delta]

Considering that Musashi is still among the best BBs while shimakaze is powercrept by gold ships

And that Nagato and Mikasa are irrelevant for 99% players

[heavy zealot]

Should i?

She that good??

[tulip tinsel]

the others are just meh, but yeah she's good

[heavy zealot]

Ah , welp , compared to lion.... How good is she

[tulip tinsel]

lion top dps rn so sushi is worse than lion

[ivory pawn]

Compared to the best BB in the game currently, ofc she’d be kinda eh.

[ivory pawn]

Musashi is still a top pick for campaign, and still a strong pick vs Heavy Armor or for PvP.

[eternal basalt]

Compared to lion, 100% of BB's are bad

[heavy zealot]

Daym..

[silent hearth]

im really surprised to see so many good ships in the transitional ships area

[peak fable]

finished Eldridge yesterday, she literally made my vanguard immortal

[heavy zealot]

Whats transitional ship mean

[ivory pawn]

Ships to use until you raise better ships from the ones listed above.

[eternal basalt]

It's that person's personal list, others (me included) may disagree with a lot of listings

[heavy zealot]

Helena ... Is she not a good ship ;-;?

[ivory pawn]

Did I say they were bad ships? No!

[eternal basalt]

She's an elite

[peak fable]

Agir, AvP and Brest are tough for me to accept as transitional

[ivory pawn]

Just by making the list alone, she's a good ship!

[silent hearth]

mmm i dont have a personal opinion on it, just surprise. nearly all of my 'main' ships are in the transitional ships area XD and im about to finish up Kearsarge and have been building up BPs so it makes me want to rethink that

[peak fable]

my main ships didn't even make the list 💀

[tender lotus]

Are these purple & blue ships safe to scrap? the META can't be scrapped ofc

[sweet delta]

It's a tier list concerned with the top of the top meta only

[rapid shard]

That list is still top 5% of ships in game. transitional ones still gonna gonnna be able to clear all content when setup correctly

[silent hearth]

i just built Daisen but dont have the BPs for her yet, whats your guy's opinion on her?

[peak fable]

curious, who is the replacement for AvP at the top?

[vale spindle]

Implacable

[ivory pawn]

Still a top gold BB. If you lack UR BBs or Oumi, she'll probably be your best BB.

[vale spindle]

you can also use strasser with her unique augment as another transitional option whilst you don't have implacable

[silent hearth]

I have Oumi and NJ, NJ just took top spot for me (i finished her skills and whatnot)

Im super surprised (pleasently so) how strong Independence is, especially with her unique augment. shes been fighting with my NJ for top spots when im clearing out OPSI

i didnt notice her as a top dmg dealer before, how big of a buff did her augment give her exactly?

[ivory pawn]

Most should be, some possible exceptions being Hammann 2 and Langley 2, but I'd just check and see if all of them are farmable via wiki before scrapping personally.

[tender lotus]

iirc there's a safe to scrap list but i can't find it in the wiki, maybe it doesn't belong there in the beginning?

[sweet delta]

As opinion/guide, it does not belong on the wiki main pages, which is why it's a personal user page

/equip

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Equipment Guides and Tier Lists

🔹 Equipment picture guide by samheart564
🔹 Full details on equipment statistics
🔹 List of equipment safe to scrap by thebombzen
🔹 Augment modules guide

use /tierlist for list of ships TLs and guides
use /guide for list of other gameplay guides and FAQs

[tender lotus]

Oh sushi you have it?

No, not the equipment but for ships
Maybe i recall it wrongly

[haughty skiff]

pretty significant;

roughly +30% more damage against Yuudachi META due to her barrage being a HVAR one, ontop of being able to 5-strike with oath due to the additional reload

overall very big buffs overall for mobbing and anti-light

[rapid shard]

General rule for ships is you only scrap easy to reaquire ones. Espcially if you got plenty of dock space because eventually you want to raise all for Tech bonus

[ivory pawn]

(The list shared was all 120 ships, so don't think they have to worry about saving for tech.)

[silent hearth]

good stuff, she fealt a lot stronger but i wasnt sure because i hadnt gotten her skills above lvl 4 before the augment. thank you for verifying that i wasnt just tripping balls XD

So hey guys i wanted someone's opinion on this. i only have a handful of UR ships and i know subs are considered secondary but none of the URs i have are META. Ive been thinking about just getting my 404 MLB, when i do use her she often comes out as top DMG even with only 5 stars. whats your guys opinion on it? strongly agaisnt MLB?

[ivory pawn]

Ofc none of the URs you have are META, there are no UR METAs yet.

[silent hearth]

sorry i meant meta not META

[tender lotus]

Well there's tons of unleveled ships in my docks and i don't want to retire before 120
One more, for regular ships drop from story/shop/perma pool is it safe to scrap?

[silent hearth]

you knew what i meant though lol

would be interesting to see if they ever release a UR META though

[ivory pawn]

As usual, it depends exactly what other URs you have and how many bulins you have.

[ivory pawn]

I'm iffy on scrapping gacha only ships personally, but story/shop can go right to the bench so to speak.

[rapid shard]

Do keep in mind Unzen is reruning friday and New UR in Dec so that kinda depends on how many bulins you can get

[silent hearth]

limited Bulins, i know Unzen is considered pretty good, is she still top tier though?

what i have is Shima Shinano 404, thats it.

[rapid shard]

Shes niche against heavy armor

[silent hearth]

Shinano is still 3 stars

[ivory pawn]

Top DPS Vanguard, in a support/tank Vanguard meta makes it a bit rough for her.

[rapid shard]

Shes good but thats her main use

[silent hearth]

Shimakaze* sorry Shinano and 404 are the only ones that still need bullins/copies

[ivory pawn]

That's all the URs you have?

[knotty jolt]

Unzen is strong but her main weakness is she's squishy for her class

[ivory pawn]

Including MLB I mean. Not close to perma pity either I assume.

[silent hearth]

yeah, im at 300 perma pitty and i was thinking of saving my bullins for either event ships or for Musashi (when i get her through perma pity)

but honestly i wanted to see how big of a bump MLB 404 gets, shes a pretty decent help even when i dont call her in and decently equiped. no UR equipment but several gold pieces

[ivory pawn]

Assuming you have or can buy 4 bulins right now, I'm leaning towards optimally saving for Musashi and Dec UR(s).

[rapid shard]

How many stars is 404 right now?

[silent hearth]

mmm... ok ima save it then until december UR comes out and make the decision. 404 is 5 stars ATM

[rapid shard]

Id save then. at 5 stars she already best sub in game

[silent hearth]

she is by far. her helping map-wide with the crossfleet is pretty damn good yeah. theres just so little info out there for her so IDK if having her MLB is worth or not. i know her all out gets buffed but i dont see what it changes exactly

[viscid swift]

Well I'm being really picky, this is from my perspective as an end game player and what ships I'd use

[silent hearth]

when did lion come out btw? was she the main event just before Hakuhou?

[viscid swift]

She released in May of this year

[silent hearth]

ah ok so i didnt just miss her at least. i started back during the Hakuhou event lol

[rapid shard]

Only reason to MLB her would be if everything else is and you have the extras. Subs are not needed to clear any content in game. They do help in W14-15 but you can still clear without them at all.

[silent hearth]

i just started w14-1 and its brutal XD

idk if i cant finish it tbh which is crazy because i no diffed 13

[rapid shard]

If you already struggling on 14-1 you may need to work on more gear before pushing it more. 14-3 is way worse than -1

Im working on 14 now and I easily beat -1 and -3 is a bit of a bitch if im not careful

[silent hearth]

im still working on it, havnt had to pull out yet. i screwed up and tried to auto the first few battles and my ships got shredded.

[rapid shard]

You might need to rework your fleet setup if they cant auto when you have ammo.

[silent hearth]

mmm ok i did it, i lost hakuhou on the boss fight but that was the only ship i lost in the stage.

im not using a healer in either fleet. i probably need to swap out my enty for unicorn in the mob fleet (i know enty is a boss ship, im just getting combat data grind)

[rapid shard]

Yeah you should be using unicorn at minimum on your mob for the heals and the preload helps outs massively

[sweet delta]

Bros doing no healer w14 challenge at 2 months into the game

[silent hearth]

😛

[sweet delta]

Next thing you know he's cleared w15 at 3 months

[silent hearth]

lol just had to manual to finish it. im confident im leagues further then most people that are 2 months into the game. ive been holding off on w14 for over a month now just to grind 12-4 for xp

[rapid shard]

What fleet did they use to clear 15 in 7 days?

[viscid swift]

I wouldn't worry about rushing progress too much after W12

[viscid swift]

I don't remember at this point

[silent hearth]

yup yup. im just doing this because im bored atm XD

[sweet delta]

Did they use Cheshire and the kimo tech Georgia?

[silent hearth]

just finished eldridge, still need the last few gold BPs to get her tactical learning skill but im loving her invincibility and decent dmg. ive been using her in pvp+ anchorage and it makes them nearly unkillable+sanny for AA. im no diffing meta UR ship fleets

[rapid shard]

What is Kimo tech Georgia?

[silent hearth]

the only pvp ships i have any issues beating are ones that have lion, but even then if they dont have something like Z52 i can usually beat their vanguard and its over.

does anyone have the data sheet that compares oil/xp ratio for each stage?

[ivory pawn]

It's buried in the pins.

#gameplay-help message for a direct link.

[silent hearth]

got it, ty

[silk helm]

is that real?

[viscid swift]

yes

[sweet delta]

Better one https://suchiguma.github.io/deepresearch/auto-search-exp-and-coins/

[silent hearth]

ah that makes it a bit easier to read XD

[sweet delta]

But it's slight outdated because the auto search goes for ammo nodes now

[inland shoal]

(And flares)
Unless they already changed that?

[silent hearth]

so if im going for coins it looks like i should auto 13-4 for now, am i reading that right?

14-4 looks like its best, but im not at the point where i can auto it and i can still safely do 13-4 without unicorn

[inland shoal]

If you can. For most intents and purposes 12-4 is enough

[silk helm]

holy... i'm almost 2 years and still 12-4..

[silent hearth]

so if im reading this right at this point for me 13-4 for coins and 11-1 for XP. 12-4 for both

[ivory pawn]

Thing about farming coins is you wanna be farming xp too. And 12-4 is a lot easier than 13-4 for your still leveling ships to clear.

[inland shoal]

Pretty much, though I wouldn't really do 11-1 much, I'd rather do 12-1

There's also cog chips to consider that are just better the higher the world, but that might not matter much to you

[sweet delta]

He's a c1 farmer I think it matters a lot

[silent hearth]

ehhh kinda sorta on the cog chips. i can use them of course, but ive not hit a wall with them.

[silent hearth]

wha? XD

[ivory pawn]

Cogs are heavily frontloaded in onetime rewards. Once you do hit a wall, you’re gonna hit it hard.

[silent hearth]

sure i farm C1 a lot, but thats just for the ap boxes. currently sitting on 21 atm

ive pretty much gotten all the ships i wanted upto 120 atm with a small surplus of cogs. cog+ are the bitch XD

eldridge is 119. im working on research ships atm but none of the ones ive recently built or are building have enough BPs to worry about investing cogs into yet. still waiting on that damn unzen event lol

speaking of cog+ should i get indy, eldridge or anchorage upto 125 first? im leaning towards eldridge

[rapid shard]

Indy as in Indianapolis?

[silent hearth]

independence

[rapid shard]

Eldridge would be most beneficial to take to 125 first

[modest latch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/790149609594421269/1437963816141848877/image0.jpg?ex=691527a9&is=6913d629&hm=c6255797f0fb96637d0a608117e70fdf67a320182f5775c374d44b23d068c100&
how to get more?

[north gorge]

Operation Siren

[modest latch]

So basically down to luck?

[north gorge]

You get a few guaranteed selectors every month but yeah a lot of it is rng drops

[modest latch]

Ok thx

[soft raft]

Farm C5 zones

[modest latch]

hmm, that explains it

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/912157923860414534.webp?size=96&animated=true

i didnt know it was selectors, i have a bunch piled up. 83 UR selector
i just picked them up and let it sit in my storage

[rapid shard]

Outside of the couple from the shops only way to get the Secret UR papers is luck from drops right?

[forest palm]

I don't believe T3 Ords are in any loot table, could be wrong

[north gorge]

I want to say I've seen one drop somewhere but I'm not sure I'm correct about that

[wise cairn]

which dr should I dev 30 next, I have Brest ply and hinden all dev 22

[stark quiver]

yeah

[forest palm]

Plymouth

[rapid shard]

C5 and C6 drops?

[stark quiver]

drops

[forest palm]

there's no such thing as a dedicated drop in ops

[rapid shard]

Yeah i know they are not dedicated drops. Just checking if regualr C5/6 can drop them or if they are only in drop pool of abyssals/rainbow cords

[viscid swift]

I've gotten them from cat nodes in C3

[wet palm]

W14 fleet help

[cobalt robin]

i got gouden couple days ago, she's a long way from dev30 but what would be her use case?

[slow fox]

-# semitank aa??

[cobalt robin]

how good is her aa compared to retro sandy

[slow fox]

What a perfect way to ask that question

I have just the chart for you

[cobalt robin]

let me put on the seatbelt

[slow fox]

No it's nothing flashy. She performs at 126.93% of San Diego Retrofit (No Aug)

[stark quiver]

is she good

[cobalt robin]

but still pretty good

[slow fox]

-# Aren't you better suited for answering that question than I am?

[stark quiver]

yes

[slow fox]

-# GOUDEN GOOD

[stark quiver]

[forest palm]

quite obtuse of the bot

[slow fox]

Hi! I am MeGPT, an LLM for the purpose of applying eHP knowledge to the action RPG side-scrolling shooting game Azur Lane by Manjuu/Yongshi/Yostar!

I have an API for interaction onto the discord platform, which allows me to process reacts in a way that may seem faster than normal! If you have any other questions, feel free to let me know!

[cobalt robin]

waifu always good

[spice phoenix]

are any of the tempesta gear worth buying or should i just get the important stuff like cog chips?

[slow fox]

I have information for you. (more testing soon)

(W15 3* DD lifetime testing vs armor type)

[slow fox]

Get the unique gear just because

[whole crypt]

what was the low cost 13-1 pair again, volga/sandy?

[sweet delta]

Volga hammii?

[whole crypt]

oh right

[sweet delta]

Independence someone? Even better now with Aug

[whole crypt]

and boss is indep/sandy?

oh wow Independence got an augment?

[slow fox]

-# SUPER SNAIL!?!?

[whole crypt]

I haven't been keeping up no

when was this

[sweet delta]

I vaguely remember indep being mob without healing but idk

[slow fox]

[rain bobcat]

last week

[sweet delta]

Possibly ingraham idk

[slow fox]

-# Oh wait it's not in pins isn't it

[rain bobcat]

it wasnt datamined

well it was but sam didn't bother to make an en ver

[fiery swan]

Does the ehp chart account for augs

[slow fox]

-# yeah

It should account for
-# basically everything ship-side.

[sweet delta]

-# nah (edited)

[whole crypt]

indep/ingraham for mob?

one way to find out I guess

[rapid shard]

What is the 150Gun mentioned?

[wispy cosmos]

the only ones worth getting from shop are the grape shot+demi cannon

[whole crypt]

mob fleet made it but need to think of something for boss

sara didn't make it even with a +13 57mm sandy

[fleet aspen]

how to buy gems with USD on paypal?

[slow fox]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_150mm_(Type_5_Prototype)#Type_0-0

This CL gun gives an additional ghost AA gun.

[whole crypt]

yep the pair survives large CV nodes on no ammo...

aquila/sandy made it for boss maybe I should raise a dupe Independence for this

[bleak junco]

Not sure about paypal … if you’re having trouble though, azur lane has their own official top up system (specifically just for gems) which may or may not work right now since it’s just showing me a white screen lol… https://yo-topup.com/page/shop/azurlane

I dunno if this will help

[rapid shard]

Need some help on 14-4 boss. This is current fleet. Mob has no issues right now but on boss clear you can see everyone is dead minus NJ and Agir. Agir has a tiny sliver of health. Any advice?

[viscid swift]

what gear are you running

because honestley, a clear time of 2:30 is not a good sign

[rapid shard]

I didnt have much issue on -3 but this one is nuking me

[sweet delta]

Synced CVs can do that

[rapid shard]

Any suggestions on how to fix that? Thats the gear sets I was reccomened

[viscid swift]

if you've got a Saiun put it in Shinano's 3rd slot and put the Tenrai on Hakuhou

[fleet berry]

Auto search will pick up ammo too now, making the requirement less stringent.

[sweet delta]

Is there ammo in 13-1?

[rapid shard]

This one?

[fleet berry]

Oh yeah, lmao.

[stark quiver]

no ords 💀

[whole crypt]

I was thinking maybe trying 13-4 but even if mob survives boss fleet is almost definitely screwed

[bleak junco]

Hey awesome smart dudes of gameplay help…. Should I do the bonus blueprints for prinz rupprecht or harbin? I wanted prinz for the cuteness factor but is harbin more worth it in terms of gameplay stuff? Like, is she good at all and would she be useful? (I know getting prinz and getting her blueprints are a separate thing, but the only reason I wanna dev level 30 her is for freely checking out voice lines sake. Though going for whoever would be more useful to me in terms of content might be better, I don’t know. It depends on whatever answers I get…)

[sharp socket]

harbin has more usage than ruppy

[bleak junco]

What is she good for?

[sweet delta]

They're both protocore

[bleak junco]

Awesome……….

[sweet delta]

Harbin is just DPS. Like Shimanto without AA, or Bayard but worse

[sharp socket]

unloading alot of torps often and also having good gun dps

[bleak junco]

alright then… I guess I’ll just choose whoever in this season since it doesn’t matter that much apparently

[sharp socket]

harbin helped me alot with w14

[bleak junco]

okay well now I’m conflicted this is great

[sharp socket]

when all you have is ddgs those fat heavy armor ships suck

[stark quiver]

whats leaving after this maint

[bleak junco]

Finneeee…. I’ll go for harbin bp then

[sharp socket]

you can go for protocore if you still lack protocore gear

[bleak junco]

The one limited outfit and musashi pack I guess?

[slow fox]

how suchiperson

[stark quiver]

is that all

[rain bobcat]

shes coinable so its just protocore

[bleak junco]

Don’t think I can do that until the ship is at dev 30 right?

[rapid shard]

Harbin has been a great pick for me and is currently doing really well in 14 mob fleet. She will hold you over till you can get the top Teir options

[sharp socket]

if you want to get w14 done quickly for some reason then sure bp it

[bleak junco]

That’s all I remember honestly. Obviously the event and limited ship will go too

[stark quiver]

💀

[sharp socket]

yes but dev 30 is only slightly above a month of coining

[bleak junco]

Yeah I guess you’re right

[rapid shard]

22ish days if you buy 15 a day

[bleak junco]

I was wrong, theres also the “Limited Build Supplies II” and “Limited Strategic Supplies” in the packs section of the shop for gems. The tempesta event exchange will also go away. Other than those things theres nothing else that will go away from my knowledge

[soft raft]

Not really worth the cost tho

nearly double the price for like at most 20 days saved

[rapid shard]

Thanks im saving that. Is there a breakdown for DRs like that?

[soft raft]

Yes

[rain bobcat]

also depends what you farm

I do 13-4 and 14-4 mainly even while raising shitters and I profit 100k+ weekly

[fluid brook]

You just put Uni + 5 extras? or like add more main fleets?

[rapid shard]

Ive been doing 12-4 and buying 15 for a DR and 10-15 for a PR Fate Sim ive been gaining around 10-15k a day but I have been running a bit more than most do

[rain bobcat]

depends how shit

if its not atrocious, brest+5

or uni+5 works

[fluid brook]

Brest? You put good AA on fleet?

[rain bobcat]

but I like brest+5 more unless I have vanguards that are competent enough to not die

[stark quiver]

100k cogs weekly

[fluid brook]

Ok, i am gonna do some runs

[rain bobcat]

typical setups, 1-2 carriers with AA radars if their dmg is useless

you will need a healer or a hard carry vanguard if ur actually bringing in the lowest of the low

[fluid brook]

Well, it just sound more easy to uni + 5 extras in 12-4 and try getting faster clears

[viscid swift]

why would run Unicorn at all in 12-4, especially now that ammo is automatically picked up

[fluid brook]

but i am still gonna try do some grinding in 13-4 or 14-4 just for the better coin per oil

[rain bobcat]

if you do 12-4 ur not gonna need uni lol

[fluid brook]

tis a thing?, when it was added?

[rain bobcat]

also 14-4 barrier is high, atleast 110 everyone

[viscid swift]

last update

[rapid shard]

You can run a fleet of complete shit units now in 12-4 without heals long as you have some half ass form of AA

[sweet delta]

Considering there are double the number of vanguard as main and that vanguard don't get flag bonus, I would use a main carry instead of a Brest carry

[stark quiver]

no you cant

at least not with boss

[viscid swift]

well you can, with cross fleets

[stark quiver]

alright so either that or im just bad

[fluid brook]

gonna grind 12-4 ig

[rapid shard]

Portland was 105 and rest was 80-85 when I started and it was clearing no issue

[whole crypt]

the biggest problem used to be dragged out fights from ammo pen, that's basically not a thing now unless the fleet you're raising is really shit

[sweet delta]

I used QAR Pearl James, and pearl almost died every time

[stark quiver]

is this with or withoutr boss

[viscid swift]

without obviously

[stark quiver]

[viscid swift]

this was my fleet a few months ago

[whole crypt]

ammo update doesn't affect me if I run 12-1

[fluid brook]

it runs without problems i assume

[viscid swift]

it did yeah

[fluid brook]

Oh ig 12-4 got even more easy

Any change to 13-4 aside from safe buff?

[rain bobcat]

12-4 was a joke to begin with

[stark quiver]

oh wait my fleet can do 12-1 boss now
I forgot lmao

[rain bobcat]

people have been running 12-4 with triple grey DD vanguards since forever

[sweet delta]

12-4 ain't got nothin on 11-3 fr no cap

[whole crypt]

to be fair I leveled all 4 frigates in 12-4 including boss fight but the other 2 ships were Z52 and bois, and it was with crossfleet

[stark quiver]

ima just use the new advice feature

[rapid shard]

Only crossfleet my current leveling fleet had was Shinanos. With ammo pickup its stupid easy now

[fluid brook]

[viscid swift]

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say people didn't care about random commons until oil caps became a thing and made farming xp incredibly easy

[rain bobcat]

maybe I should go hyperfarm 14-4

[stark quiver]

i used to farm 15-1

[rain bobcat]

im only at 400k since going broke from tempesta 2 weeks ago

[fluid brook]

Give me fleet

[rain bobcat]

[stark quiver]

[fluid brook]

Too lazy to search for em

or Stig can you send me your that you did when chap15 dropped?

[stark quiver]

itsa just carries and like 2 ships that need level

[wind hazel]

raff unicorn eldridge +3 +6crossfleets

[whole crypt]

well people did care somewhat ever since fleet tech, there just wasn't a very effective way to do it before oil cap

[fluid brook]

I need references, i am to dumb to think

[viscid swift]

yeah but DD HP I'd wager was rather low on the list

[wind hazel]

the higher their level the better their survivability (the shitters i mean)

[whole crypt]

the shitty techs yeh

[stark quiver]

@fluid brook double ping because i can

[rain bobcat]

what mori said +3 lvl 110+ ships

under 110 can get sketchy

[rain vine]

would raff work as a carry for 13-4? trying to level vanguards mainly

[fluid brook]

I am gonna grind ig

[stark quiver]

This is my 12-1 farm fleet

[fluid brook]

They look depressed

[rain bobcat]

is probably pretty good yeah

[wind hazel]

not alone

[rain bobcat]

drake not 125 in 2025

[viscid swift]

Drake sucks

[fluid brook]

Shes bad

[rain bobcat]

I know

[viscid swift]

also apha I see you've started on CA hit

[wind hazel]

look at that nerd raising yuki to 125

[stark quiver]

i ran out of royal navy vanguards

[rain bobcat]

its just that its rare not seeing someone have drake at 120-125 unless they started way after

[stark quiver]

so its not out of choice but rather neccesity

[viscid swift]

alpha did start way after despite him being older than me

[stark quiver]

my belfast oath is older than urs

[whole crypt]

I thought I could level Yukikaze when the aug came round for PvP, as it turns out I didn't have a chance to

[rain bobcat]

dont even know who my first oath is actually

[stark quiver]

would u believe me if i said it wasnt for pvp

[wind hazel]

no

[stark quiver]

youre right

[rain bobcat]

my first oath was belfast

[whole crypt]

Renown but yeh

[stark quiver]

here you go

[wind hazel]

so many white

[fluid brook]

Which page this one?

[wind hazel]

https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/tracker

[stark quiver]

ill show you white

[viscid swift]

hmmm

[whole crypt]

how do you get the summary to show more columns or is it just a screen width thing

[stark quiver]

scroll all the way down on leftbar

[rain vine]

how would i go about importing fleet tech info into the fleet tech tracker or do i really have to do it manually?

[viscid swift]

you have to do it manually

[stark quiver]

import from where

[rain bobcat]

aspect ratio yeah

[rain vine]

damn

[stark quiver]

oh thats what he was asking

[whole crypt]

guess my screen isn't wide enough then

[stark quiver]

i pressed control and scrolled
thats like 60% browser scale

[rain bobcat]

nah u prob need an ultrawide but I dont want to go down to test, 1440p is still 3 rows

[stark quiver]

1440 noob

[rain bobcat]

I havent bothered tracking stuff

whatever comes up my dock and has tech I raise

[whole crypt]

this looks dinky on 60% but limited real estate on my desk for a bigger screen

[stark quiver]

I mostly level stuff for pvp and obscure gaming

[rapid shard]

Speaking of tech, would it be worth the bulins for the +2 RLD Duke of York gives?

[rain bobcat]

ultrawides are pretty mid for productivity anyway imo

[stark quiver]

yur

[viscid swift]

yes

[wind hazel]

good ship>tech ship>the rest

[stark quiver]

it makes my eyes go

[whole crypt]

if you're leveling tech Dork is basically one of the best investments

[rain bobcat]

+16 to +17-18 reload is the difference between missing half ur last salvo on ur last ship unless ur using fast guns to begin with