gameplay-help

[last axle]

My dock, the rest is a buncho of level 1 elites and rare ships

[haughty skiff]

as others have said; Shinano > NJ, but neither are worth investing UR Bulins into, so they're effectively -1 dock space until you can pity more of them

[haughty skiff]

imo you have very solid ships, what world are you currently on ?

[storm marlin]

Is there a way to get more of these?

[onyx flame]

could also just hold onto the invitation until you get the other copies of shinano

[last axle]

clearing world 8 for the rookie missions havent pushed campaing jyet because of the events

[onyx flame]

only from handbook and cruise pass

[haughty skiff]

Cruise Pass / Dev Missions, but you should be analyzing them and not actually using them for EXP

[onyx flame]

(should be anaylzing them btw, dont use em)

[storm marlin]

Damn. I really have to sit and grind these out

[storm marlin]

Why?

[real folio]

proto shop

[onyx flame]

it gives protocore, which is a more valuable resource compared to just exp which you can easily knock out at higher campaign levels

[junior fractal]

Shipyard Research Next Steps / Priority

thread isn't ready yet one sec

[storm marlin]

Ah so for stuff like blueprints?

[onyx flame]

yea

there quite a lot of good gear that you want from it

[last axle]

Ty for the tips guys.

[haughty skiff]

nagato / unicorn / enterprise
portland / helena / laffey

you'll really want to replace nagato; she's extremely powercrept and not useful. also don't invest in tempesta, they're just collection and not useful for later content due to planes.

and don't split bulins; either max a ship or dont invest at all, using copies is fine.

you have hood but you can push a few chapters until you need to get a different bb

[junior fractal]

Okay, if anyone would like to weigh in on what ships I should be Researching next I'd really appreciate it! I feel like I have a pretty good idea but would love some more experienced opinions.

[haughty skiff]

and alabama is just better, incase you can get her in your medal shop

[last axle]

immusing the tempest ships in a mobing fleet to level them up should i be using only one fleet still?

before then i was using nagato / unicorn / enterprise
portland / the meta ship i cant type the name of XD / laffey

[onyx flame]

lyme is fine but you would want to drop qar and pearl and la gal meta too

tempesta is mostly collection tier cause they lack AA and will get demolished later on by plane if you run a near full fleet of em, but one is fine if you make up the AA with a carry instead

[junior flame]

Hello, I was wondering if someone can help me with which UR ships I should prioritize to limit break

[onyx flame]

for meta ships, purple/elite ones are also basically collection tier so you really shouldnt bother with em early on

[junior flame]

Thing is I've played pretty casually for a long time, so just randomly limit broken a few

But I have 0 game knowledge i just collect resources and roll for ships

I also have 1 ur exhance token thingy

[ivory pawn]

Just share your URs and how many UR bulins you have and can buy.

[junior flame]

Sharing in a few secs

Accidentally sorted levels wierdly

but that page is everyone

I have no idea whats good tho

Randomly used some basicly, same with my other ships ngl

[haughty skiff]

don't split bulins between ships; either MLB them or dont

use copies to MLB the ones you have

how many more ur bulins can you purchase ?

[junior flame]

uhm I dont think I can buy any, but I also cant remember where we can buy em

tried scrolling through the store

[haughty skiff]

uh make a thread

[ivory pawn]

Shop > Monthly > Proto.

[haughty skiff]

make a thread and split your URs between main / vanguard in the dock

[junior flame]

oh yeah 3.7k/4k

[ivory pawn]

MLB Alsace > BisZwei > Fritz in that order imo, and exchange for Shinano.

[junior flame]

Like this?

[ivory pawn]

Well, don't MLB Fritz yet, wait until you have enough UR bulins to fully LB. Shouldn't take too long.

[junior flame]

I think I wanna exchange for a missing ship

I like collecting stuff

is MLB max limit break?

[ivory pawn]

If that's the case, grab Musashi.

[haughty skiff]

feed all of your copies to your URs

i'd not recommend going for collection with perma URs; all of your URs won't be usable

ships aren't good if they aren't MLB

[junior flame]

[haughty skiff]

and it isnt recommended to use UR Bulins on perma URs, it's better to focus on one at a time and MLB them

[ivory pawn]

Eh, most of the perma URs are basically collection tier nowadays anyways.

[junior flame]

I dont know what is perma and non perma ur etc

[ivory pawn]

Permas are the ones available in the exchange.

[junior flame]

oki

[haughty skiff]

perma ur are the ones exchange, since they're permanent

alasce, fritz and bismarck zwei are not permanent urs; new urs are better then older ones, which are powercrept

so it's better to use bulins for newer ones that wont be available for years vs ones you can exchange for that are powercrept

[junior flame]

Should i do bismarck first cus shes closest to max?

[ivory pawn]

You have enough bulins to raise Alsace and Bismark, I'd still recommend them both. Alsace first.

[tulip tinsel]

Alsace

[junior flame]

Oki

Are non UR ships bad?

[river junco]

no

[haughty skiff]

Alsace & Bismark Zwei ; use all of your copies so you can have a clearer understanding of which one of your perma URs is closest to MLB

[junior flame]

I have Alot of SR ships

[last axle]

speaking of ur bulins the montly limit is on the amount of specialiced cores per month you can get or on the number of bulins you can exchange speciualiced cores for per month?

[river junco]

UR ships are powerful but you have ships like unicorn (purple then gold after retrofit) who is the best healer

[haughty skiff]

there's purple and gold ships better then your URs since they aren't MLB'd

[junior flame]

Oki'

[haughty skiff]

i'd recommend reading the uh

newbie guide - ill grab some links and images rq

[junior flame]

I've never really looked into any meta stuff before, but failed some hard missions and got curious

[tulip tinsel]

You can get 5k proto cores every month, and exchange 4k for 1 UR bulin infinite amount of times atm

[river junco]

you can also get some extra protocore through medal shop each month

[tulip tinsel]

yea 3k

[junior flame]

rn I use iron blood ships so I can unlock a ship I've wanted for a while

[ivory pawn]

+3k from medals, which ends up at 2 every month. Adding the bulin from the cruise pass, you get 5 bulins every 2 months.

[junior flame]

But ty for help. I'll get more coins and grind for the Limit breaks

[haughty skiff]

@junior flame

MLB & why not being MLB is bad;

Newbie Guide ; https://azurlaneecgc.com/newbie_tips/
Why perma UR is a newbie trap ; https://azurlaneecgc.com/newbie_tips/#permanent_ur

You get the following specialised protocores;
5K / month for playing.
3K / month from the medal shop
8K / month, so that's 2 UR Bulins per month.

we don't get enough UR Bulins to MLB all of our URs, as we get more new URs then we do bulins to MLB them- this is why using them on perma URs is terrible and why they're such a valued resource

If you haven't collected the UR from the Rookie Handbook, then select Shinano and use your current exchange to get a second one, to MLB her

You could MLB Shimakaze, as you would have enough to MLB her if you select her- then you can focus on Shinano, then Vanguard

[junior flame]

I gotnthis step today

[haughty skiff]

oh then do that real quick

then select shinano from it, then exchange for shinano

so that'll let you MLB Shinano

[junior flame]

TIL I've done alot of silly stuff on this game

[junior flame]

Ill read into these things, thanks alot for the help

Im very curious how many of my fully limit break SR ships are bad

But I so like seeing many lvl 100+ ships either way so I guess its fine

[haughty skiff]

you're fine, just make sure to read the guides in the server

you can find all of them in the bot channel using simple commands

[junior flame]

Im also lvl 80, but not cleared stage 12 yet

[junior flame]

Guides talk alot about Unicorn. Should I get her? sorry for the spam

Like most of my SRs are lvl 115-125

[onyx flame]

definitly best healer in the game, legit will never leave your mob fleet level (unless your doing some leveling or what have you)

[junior flame]

Damn

[ivory pawn]

She will eventually leave your fleet so you can level more ships.
But she'll be back whenever you're pushing new non-boss content.

[haughty skiff]

Yeah ; Unicorn, Helena & Portland are all extremely good ships that are better then like 60% of gold ships

[junior flame]

https://tenor.com/view/bellebows-tiktok-dog-funny-silly-gif-26293491

[haughty skiff]

rarity is a lie for a new / mid-game player, even later on we use some purples / golds.

[junior flame]

Bruh I have absolutely no idea wth im doing in this game huh

[fluid brook]

You are collecting pngs

[junior flame]

I feel like the biggest noob rn

[junior flame]

Yes

[fluid brook]

One self collect pngs theres nothing wrong with that

[junior flame]

Got 48%

Not even half ways damn

[junior flame]

I want to build a stronger fleet tho, cus there are some mean EX stuff I cant do etc

(Pretty much any ex stuff ngl)

[fluid brook]

Then grind for MLB, future URs, gearlab gears, research gear and read some skills and learn how to synergy

Can be summarized like that but takes time and easily forgotten (like me)

[junior flame]

My strats has been throw a bunch of pretty ships together and hope for the best ngl

(usually all SR/UR)

This noob guide has so much stuff I've never tought about

[novel solstice]

Throwing together a random set of pretty wifus works fine up to world 12 or so.

[junior flame]

im currently clearing 11 with no issues, but not gotten to 12 yet 🙈

[spice phoenix]

should i make kai pure oxy torps or the quintuple mags?

i have a feeling quint mags is better

[viscid swift]

quint mags are just a sidegrade to the quad mags

[spice phoenix]

then what am i supposed to do with my rainbow torp prints

[fluid brook]

stockpile it

[weary edge]

hi

[rain bobcat]

my sheet release schedule is now fucked because blackfriday ran 1 week in advance

[weary edge]

previous years it ran around this time too though

[opaque galleon]

Does indep augment significantly improve anything?

[fluid brook]

Buffs Vanguards

15% Eva which is good

[rain bobcat]

buff for american ships+strong barrage every 20s

the barrage is a mini rocket airstrike

[peak fable]

this is probably a stupid question to ask 3 months into the game, but where do I see the exact morale number of my ship??

(outside of Dorm that is)

[stark quiver]

you dont

[eternal basalt]

There are plenty of spots that show morale

Like adding to fleets and stuff

[forest palm]

you can make an estimation based on the moral icon

[split gazelle]

dock > filter > morale

[peak fable]

31-119 can be the difference between completing my auto runs and "this ship will stop loving if you send her out one more time"

[peak fable]

this is what I looked for, thanks

[forest palm]

only starts nagging if you hit red

[junior flame]

if I promise ring Bismarck Zwei, can she then use the Bismarck oath skin?

[next escarp]

As far as I remember, Owari is part of Unzen event. Is it correct?

[cinder saffron]

How’s this team lookin so far (ima be replacing that level 6 unicorn with a level 98 one once I get the others leveled up a bit more)

[soft raft]

Why are you raising a duplicate Unicorn 💀
Yes she's very good but there's no pratical justifiaction to raising dupes

Either way those levels look way too low to be useable, and your vanguard has no dedicated tank so it's gonna be squishy. Prince of Wales also sucks, even with her unique augment

[cinder saffron]

I was raising her as a healer for another fleat, im just leveling this fleet at the moment so that they can be usable, who would you suggest to replace the prince of whales and who should I pull for a tank, not sure who exactly fits that role yet

[viscid swift]

you only need a healer for the mob fleet

and what have you got to work with

[soft raft]

Also what world are you even on?
If it's anywhere below 9, dont even bother raising a 2nd fleet right now, you legit do not have the resources to do that yet without spreading your resources way too thin

[cinder saffron]

This is basically all my ships

[cinder saffron]

I’ve just hit 9

[viscid swift]

well you haven't even got one functional fleet

[knotty jolt]

Frigates are some of the worst ships to be using

[soft raft]

then in that case your current fleet is suboptimal and the rest of your dock is too meh to be good for a 2nd fleet

[cinder saffron]

So I’ve been told

[soft raft]

Sailing frigates are one of the most scuffed hulltypes in the game since they are heavily restricted on gear, have no AA capability, and the submarine ones cannot submerge

[knotty jolt]

At least ya got plenty of dupe stuff to limit break till ya can acquire better

[viscid swift]

Saratoga replaces Pearl, start getting Glowworm leveled up as well as Helena

give this a read as well
https://azurlaneecgc.com/newbie_tips/

[cinder saffron]

Damn

[cinder saffron]

Man the amount of misinformation I’ve gotten from videos

[soft raft]

Bruh aint no way 💀

Next thing we know, he gonna say he was watching KimoCheese

[cinder saffron]

I have absolutely no idea who I’ve watched ima be honest

[midnight turret]

Wait is portland that good??

[stark quiver]

portland is that good for a beginner

[midnight turret]

I am lvl 82 should i use her??

[cinder saffron]

Alrighty, got this put together, I’d start leveling but I need to get home now,

[stark quiver]

whats the rest of your fleet

[midnight turret]

Something like this

[lyric flume]

How do I retrofit Essex it says I’m missing something

[fair lance]

It was a limited time item from EN anni that will probably come around again next year

[next escarp]

Is Low Cost Farming more efficient using in Event, Gear pattern grinding than Exp farming?

[viscid swift]

what

[lyric flume]

I thought I was here for the event do I really gotta wait a whole year just to retrofit her?

[fair lance]

send a picture

[next escarp]

I don't know what it's called, I remember someone who uses 1 main and 1 vanguard for farming

[viscid swift]

yes

[fair lance]

Yeah looks like you don't have it

[viscid swift]

no I get you mean a low cost fleet, I don't get what you mean farming for gear prints over XP though

[viscid swift]

did you play the mini game for it

either way, you don't wanna farm gear prints from maps period

[lyric flume]

I don’t remember there being a minigame I thought it was just given to us but ig not

[viscid swift]

you had to play the mini game for 7 days

which just amounted to start a session, pausing, and quitting

[lyric flume]

I must’ve missed it

[viscid swift]

it was in the patch notes as well

[lyric flume]

I don’t read patch notes

[viscid swift]

you should, especially the JP ones, they contain quite a lot of useful information

[lyric flume]

Well rip ig I’ll just wait then it’s not like I use her I just thought it would be nice to have her retrofitted

I thought it was like the other ones were u can just do it

[viscid swift]

UR retros always require an item

[lyric flume]

Who else was a UR retro?

[warm latch]

warspite, eldridge and yuudachi

[viscid swift]

San Diego

[warm latch]

yea

[viscid swift]

the DDGs also need one

[ripe bluff]

anyone know how to beat w13 hard mode

got my literal best mob and boss fleets and theyre both getting owned

[forest palm]

a fleet used for World 15 would do

[ripe bluff]

havent gotten there yet

actually just full cleared w13 but it wasnt that hard just had to counterbuild

[viscid swift]

what have you got to work with then

[midnight turret]

What do you do with combat data packs

[ripe bluff]

hang on ill send dock

[viscid swift]

you analyze them into prototype core

[midnight turret]

Oh only that?

No other uses? Hmm…

[forest palm]

using CDP for PR XP is just wasteful

[warm latch]

exp is one of the easy parts of pr grind

protocore is much harder to get

[midnight turret]

Ok i had like 400 of them so i was wondering what to do with them ty

[ripe bluff]

theres about everyone somewhat useful I have

I gotta give Uni a new nick apparently there already is a ship called penelope

[midnight turret]

Wait there are good rare and common ships??

[ripe bluff]

uh i consider langley and amazon good just for the xp boost

portlands also decent other than that idk

[midnight turret]

Oh

[ripe bluff]

if you wanna count retros I also use hyuuga for FP boost but thats just me Im weird

[midnight turret]

How do you change ships in OpSi

[ripe bluff]

go to port -> order -> edit fleet

[midnight turret]

Ok!

[viscid swift]

that's everything?

[ripe bluff]

no but thats everything I dont have to go out of my way that much to be able to use

i guess with a few exceptions i was in the middle of experimenting with some lineups

[viscid swift]

you probably will have to level new ships for W13-h

[ripe bluff]

i c

does w14h exist yet
what about w15h I wanna grind the highest cus Im starving for core again

[viscid swift]

no

[ripe bluff]

oh so 13-4 is literally the hardest hard mode map in the game
good to know ig?

k well ignore everything I have
whats a good team Ill take some time to assemble that

[viscid swift]

I'd rather just look at what you have

because you have most of the pieces there, it's just one or 2 things missing

[ripe bluff]

what am I missing then

[viscid swift]

some good carrier mainly, and some alternatives for a good CA because the only one I see right now is Unzen

[ripe bluff]

k well this was the team I was attempting with

[viscid swift]

yeah no suprised it failed

[ripe bluff]

how tanky is unzen because tankiness I find to be the only thing that mattered

[viscid swift]

a little below portland's eHP but I can assure you that's not the only issue

because think of it like this, your ships will need to tank less damage if you kill the enemy quicker

[eternal basalt]

Eugen in bossfleet

[viscid swift]

and what's with the perpetuation of Eldridge being middle

[ripe bluff]

dont DDs want to be in middle sandwiched between main and off tank

[viscid swift]

Eldridge is literally tankier than most ships in this game thanks to her skill

not to mention she needs to take damage to proc her skill

[ripe bluff]

my order have always been tankiest least tankiest and the second tankiest in that order
oh

[viscid swift]

except Eldridge is not the least tanky ship in that fleet

[ripe bluff]

oh wtf actually read her skills for the first time this shit sounds busted as hell

[viscid swift]

yeah she sits at 137% of Portland's eHP

[ripe bluff]

ok well im definitely gonna be abusing more out of her

this also looks like a skill worth leveling to 10

[viscid swift]

you'd be looking at something like
Mob: Raffaello, Unicorn, Independence, Z52, Trafalgar, [CL]
Boss: Alsace, Bismarck Zwei, [CV], San Diego, Unzen, Eldridge retro

[ripe bluff]

in that order?

quick question is the purple fuel tank ever worth using
cus in my previous attempts I saw my planes actually getting shot down because theres way too many enemy planes

[hollow gust]

early onwhen you dont have full gold catapults

[soft raft]

You should be maxing out the skills of any ship you're using
Outside of a few rare instances like Portland and her sister

[hollow gust]

w13? thats perfectly expected thats why BBs are sp important in w13 bossing

[ripe bluff]

ah
well shit im forced to take a CV

I think I might take august for her freeze

[viscid swift]

I wouldn't

you need more damage than AvP

[hollow gust]

you still want multiple CVs, BBs and vanguards are what clears the aa boats

[ripe bluff]

who would you recommend

[hollow gust]

you have a enterprise

[viscid swift]

Ideally someone with good heavy armor damage like Hakuhou or Amagi CV

[hollow gust]

just use the enty

[ripe bluff]

none of my good CVs are anywhere close to being built think ill use Enty

[viscid swift]

enty in 2025

[ripe bluff]

and if that doesnt work shove hiryu in flag slot to borrow more time

[viscid swift]

anytime you gain will be lossed in her much worse damage

[ripe bluff]

huhh

[hollow gust]

there is nothing wrong with enterprise; she is literally one of the best SSR CVs

[viscid swift]

and all ships should be at least level 120, skills maxed, and gear +10

[viscid swift]

one word, inconsistency, fuck a 70% proc rate in 2025

it's tolerated because newer players have very limited options but I value consisncy more when we get higher in campaign

[hollow gust]

okay? still a plenty capable SSR , not every mf is going to have half a dozen UR CVs sitting there

[ripe bluff]

I just now realize how little light cruisers I actually have

[viscid swift]

there are a number of SR CVs I'd take over Enterprise even

[sweet delta]

Enemy planes don't shoot your planes. Only the mass production ship with a yellow aura shoots your planes

[ripe bluff]

I have half a dozen UR CVs lying around theyre just not built yet

think I should skip enty entirely and come back when I have a built UR CV?

[hollow gust]

its a simp[le as fuck fleet comp and ofc you are making it overly compicated

[viscid swift]

what

the fleet is already a bit janky as is and I have doubts if it can even clear

Enterprise just adds more rng to it

this is W13-H, not normal W13

[ripe bluff]

oh would you look at that exactly half a dozen actually

dunno if counting essex is cheating

[hollow gust]

just use it and try it, you can clear w13H with way less

if it doesnt work come back

[viscid swift]

yeah sure if you have exellent gear, a lot of +13 , good cats which they don't

[ripe bluff]

oh I completely forgot to even add cats

fargo appears to be the only light cruiser I have who has any chance of survival out there
unless Im wrong and shes gonna get flattened too and I need a new CL

[viscid swift]

she's servicable

[ripe bluff]

ok the mob fleet works perfectly

but Im still struggling on the boss

granted I forgot to bring in essex and accidentally sent a no equip enterprise

but the difference is still pretty huge

[warped acorn]

do august has no use in campaign

[soft raft]

You generally dont want to sync your backliners in campaign so her Slow/Freeze has no real usefulness, and her damage isnt enough to really make up for not utilizing her utility

or at the very least the Slow/Freeze is like 99% of the reason why you'd even consider her in the first place

[stark quiver]

is the glorious battles event in archives

[ripe bluff]

oops trafalgar just exploded

didnt need her anyways it appears the mobbing fleet is still fine

I will beat 13-4h tonight I will manual if I have to

[soft raft]

Isnt that a secretary quest

[hollow gust]

equip your enty then

[stark quiver]

i do not know

but i need her for %

[soft raft]

Yeah wiki shows it as a secretary quest

[stark quiver]

she and some others are in light pool
and i do have some cubes to spare

[soft raft]

oh nvm it is a event
but wiki is just dumb sometimes and kept giving me the memories tab

And yes it is in WA

[stark quiver]

🧑‍🌾

[silk helm]

🧑‍🌾

[stark quiver]

alright over or under 60 runs for 5 copies

[ripe bluff]

K well I can beat 13-3 but not 13-4, mob fleet has zero problems but Taihou planes still have too much health and they all slip past and eat main fleet alive I need way more AA probably replace Unzen with Cheshire or Shimanto when I get them

[sharp socket]

give sandy a better gun and not that, the AA gain is not worth the damage output you're sacrificing

[soft raft]

Yamato Gun 💀

[ripe bluff]

Tore apart pretty much my entire dock to put this fleet together

[sharp socket]

nevermind everything has problems

[viscid swift]

your gear is pretty rubish

[ripe bluff]

Do tell

[sharp socket]

do you have staags by any chance

[ripe bluff]

Wut dat

[sharp socket]

/wiki 40mm bofors staag

[odd root]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_40mm_Bofors_STAAG

[ripe bluff]

Oh those
Plenty

Do I wanna spam them

[viscid swift]

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide/
give that a read for one

[sharp socket]

the one link to rule them all strikes again (i forgot it exists) yeah read that

[viscid swift]

also didn't I literally tell you the expectation was every ship at level 120, skills maxes, all gear at +10 and I can't believe I need to say this 100 affinity

[weary gust]

Essex torp bomber has no AA lol.

[sharp socket]

how in the heavens is bzwei 125 but friendly aff
actually i dont want to know just uh go do some farming

[ripe bluff]

Yeah I ran out of money

[viscid swift]

then give it a few days

[sweet delta]

So stay 12H and farm 12

[ripe bluff]

I can grind 13-3 in the meantime tho

[sharp socket]

do you guys in gph have his dock already so i can just cook for him

[viscid swift]

I cooked the fleet as best as I could

[ripe bluff]

not everything

[sharp socket]

the fix one problem to discover 5 new problems strat seems to be what i see from backreading

[rapid shard]

How much coredata does 13H give over 12H?

[ripe bluff]

2

[noble pawn]

Independence augment any good?

[ripe bluff]

independence is good so probably

[soft raft]

Its pretty good yee

[sharp socket]

i don't know if im cooking or not, only one AA carry feels weird for 13h

[solar rune]

I wish enterprise was ultra rare

[stark quiver]

Why double toolkit

[soft raft]

[ripe bluff]

anyhow if you dont actually care about the island is there any reason to play it for the main game

[soft raft]

Nope

[viscid swift]

cel remember W13-H requires a DD and CL for one fleet and a CA and CL on another

[ripe bluff]

yeah

[sharp socket]

i dont know what gold hp gears he has

[sharp socket]

well shit one sec

does he have monty

[viscid swift]

no

[ripe bluff]

these are the restrictions

wait monty?

whend they add montana

[soft raft]

Monteplier, not Montana...

[viscid swift]

Montpelier

[ripe bluff]

ah

I do have montpelier
lvl 1 tho

[viscid swift]

just like Indy can refer to Indianapolis, Independence, or Indiana

[sharp socket]

fargo over traf or z52...

[viscid swift]

why not boot Eldridge, not like you need her for W13 mobbing

[sharp socket]

i thought eld had good AA

as in not AA carry level but still good AA, together with traf also has good AA iirc so z52 is getting booted

[viscid swift]

Z52 also has good AA though

[ripe bluff]

also whats wrong with yamato gun exactly

[knotty jolt]

it's slow

[noble pawn]

Isn't it has long ass reload?

[ripe bluff]

preload kinda makes up for it

which was why I opted for it

[viscid swift]

it really doesn't

[knotty jolt]

idk the exact damage differences but im pretty sure even a champ gun beats it out

[noble pawn]

Isn't twin EU UR gun better than that in W13?

[knotty jolt]

cause the time before you can launch a second champ woulda already outdamage it

[rain bobcat]

you mean indy indep and nobody

[viscid swift]

huh

[soft raft]

no not really
you only get one preload per battle so after that you're still stuck with that long ass reload

[soft raft]

Chat does he know

[sharp socket]

ok adjusted for fleet reqs

[viscid swift]

not to mention the extra damage from the preload is utterly wasted on mobs

[ripe bluff]

alsace on mobs?

[sharp socket]

im also assuming he has enough gearlab

[viscid swift]

why Saint Louis as main tank

[sharp socket]

thats offtank

[soft raft]

That's off tank

[knotty jolt]

bottom is 1

[noble pawn]

Mogador gun is real salt

[viscid swift]

ok why off tank then, they have Unzen

[sharp socket]

i thought unzen was made of paper and has bad AA

[viscid swift]

well Saint Louis isn't exactly much better

[soft raft]

well Saint Louis isnt exactly doing AA either while Unzen has higher DPS so

[viscid swift]

she's only 94% of Portland's eHP even with Fate Sim

[ripe bluff]

I really think I can save Alsace for bossing

Raffa has mobbing covered

[viscid swift]

I would rather use Raffello as well

[ripe bluff]

unless biscuit enty and essex would do more damage than replacing one of them with alsace

[sharp socket]

huh unzen is 103% didnt know that, thought she was 80%

[viscid swift]

boot Enterprise

[sharp socket]

for who

[viscid swift]

but as I said, you need to level your ships, max their skills, give them all +10 gear and get them all to 100 affinity

Alsace

[ripe bluff]

how much difference does affinity make again

[rain bobcat]

9% stats fron stranger to love

[sharp socket]

does he have UR bulins to get amagi or someone up

[viscid swift]

additional 6% for all stats

[ripe bluff]

as for how I got biscuit to 125 at friendly because blue xp books max out at 3k and it was to use them or lose them

[rain bobcat]

[ripe bluff]

no but I can pretty much go buy as many as I want

[viscid swift]

grind with them

[viscid swift]

you should have boosted lower level ships that you couldn't grind with

[ripe bluff]

does bis2 want flag again
no rite?

[sharp socket]

ok you could do amagi over enty then

[viscid swift]

neither alsace or zwei have a prefference

[warped acorn]

how do i gear up musashi

[viscid swift]

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide/

[ripe bluff]

oh yeah can I ask who does actually want the yamato gun if any

[sharp socket]

bench the gun

[ripe bluff]

bruh
wasted gold and rainbow plates award

[sweet delta]

Alsace in EX high scoring

I can't bench 100 kg, let alone 100 tons

[rain bobcat]

very niche situations

[noble pawn]

Musashi

[ripe bluff]

damn

[viscid swift]

no actually

[rain bobcat]

gimped as hell

ur slightly losing dmg while investing 3x as much plates

[ripe bluff]

I did manage to accidentally time my Alsace to fire one more time with yamato guns for the guild boss tho

[knotty jolt]

coulda maxed 3 gold guns with that amount of plates

[ripe bluff]

so I guess thats a use?

[rain bobcat]

[ripe bluff]

tru

[soft raft]

Hell no
She already has the 2nd lowest RLD stat for a UR BB, no need to further screw her over with that slow ass gun

[slate siren]

where do i obtain more of these

[viscid swift]

there's a raid that gives them, and you can get them from the event shops

[slate siren]

what is a raid

[weary gust]

The Dailies.

[slate siren]

ooh ive alreadh exausted those options

[viscid swift]

well you're out of luck then

[rapid shard]

Yall think these would work for W14 or should I shift things around a bit.

[viscid swift]

It'll probably work though you need asw

[rapid shard]

Ill be adding ASW when I hit 14-3. Guide says thats when they pop up

[viscid swift]

Also not a fan of that ma y converging TBs in the boss fleet

[sharp socket]

swap eld and anchorage for eld's asw

[rapid shard]

Got the gold ASW plane for uni and hedgehog for sandy.

What loadout would you recommend for hakuhou then? Only have one tenrai and wyvern atm

[sharp socket]

ancho and agir are tanky enough to live boss w14

[wind hazel]

3rd slot both shinano hakuhou parallel torpedo

[sharp socket]

also yes give hakuhou and shinano parallel TBs

[rapid shard]

Berguet/gold Cuda good enough?

[sharp socket]

yes

[viscid swift]

I'd do a mix

[sharp socket]

agir could also be using quad torps and ancho blue twin 550s but minor change

[viscid swift]

First give Unicorn a Breguet and Essex a converging TB in one of her slots

Wyvern goes in Hakuhou's last slot

[rapid shard]

Current first slot good to proc her skill? Or swap to a different IJN plane?

[wind hazel]

good

[sweet delta]

Essex can use helldiver to free up another breguet

[rapid shard]

This better for mob? Ive got 3 berguets

And curious for Oumi specifically, with her skill that boosts aux gun for W14 would it better to run twin 137 for the higher firerate or still stick with 155kai?

[wind hazel]

use helldiver, nicer desync

[stark quiver]

155kai is therebecause ofits patern

[rapid shard]

137 has a pretty straight pattern as well hence I was curious if it would be better due to faster ROF over the Kai

3.05 compared to 4.28 between volleys

[wind hazel]

just stick to 155k, it works dont worry about it

[soft raft]

W14 existed long before the Twin 137 came out so you'll live

[viscid swift]

I'd rather a converging TB in one of the slots myself

[rapid shard]

For the light boss on 14-3, would it be better to drop one of the CVs on my boss setup for a BB with HE gun. Thinking dropping hakuhou out for that world

[stark quiver]

Is the last ship here acasta, sp2 of glorious battle

[viscid swift]

I've never told anyone to even swap to HE for 14-3 and it had never been an issue

The tricky bit is the pre boss mobs

[wind hazel]

fortune

[stark quiver]

[soft raft]

lol

[wind hazel]

i have it for some reason

[stark quiver]

so this was referring to original event?

[wind hazel]

yeah, from SP3

according to wiki anyway

[viscid swift]

That's not Glorious

That's either Acasta or Ardent

[stark quiver]

i need acasta

[rapid shard]

I just seen it mentioned on the guide. Figured it wouldn't hurt to ask

[wind hazel]

not map drop

[viscid swift]

Pray you get lucky from the light pool

[wind hazel]

[stark quiver]

shitass game

[viscid swift]

Lars misinformation

[stark quiver]

-> ->

My oil got griefed

[wind hazel]

noob

[forest palm]

Wild in game function

[stark quiver]

jover

[forest palm]

[soft raft]

lol

[rapid grail]

when's the next WW? Looking forward to getting Dupleix & Strasbourg (for 100% CR excluding retrofits)

[viscid swift]

May next year......

[rapid grail]

alright, can wait until then to get the others first before these two french ladies

[viscid swift]

Tbf, the event will probably rerun anyway

[bleak junco]

Surely with enough gambling…..

[rapid shard]

Mob fleet stomped and easily got 3rd star on lethal. But boss fleet had Shinano almost died from planes (like 2% left). Anything major i should swap out on Boss setup to avoid her getting sunk to early? I feel like its gonna be a issue at 14-3 and 14-4

[rain bobcat]

planes???

u sure its not her getting sniped by BBs

[rapid shard]

From what it looked like it was mostly planes. Volleys was fairly split between all 3.

[rapid shard]

This is the fleet. I swapped loadouts and Eld with Anchorage from advice I got.

[viscid swift]

It's 14-2

Yamashiro does spam out decent number of planes and has a lot of Hp so it does take a while to kill her

And the 14-3 and 14-4 bosses have completely different set ups

[forest palm]

gambling in Light Con is the definition of dumpster diving

[rain bobcat]

doesn't 14-2 spawn only a medium amount of planes but the main problem being it spawns 2 BBs and 2 rammers

[bleak junco]

But what if you’re one pull away from getting exactly what you want??!!??

[sharp socket]

please cope in another channel not gph

[viscid swift]

That's not how gacha rates work

[rapid shard]

Boss fleet just has pretty poor AA they barely lose any health tbh. Would dropping Anchorage out moving Ibuki to off tank and running a better Dmg/AA ship be the play?

These are the relevant leveled options I have

[viscid swift]

You could certainly try

[stark quiver]

cooked

[bleak junco]

sorry… I was just trying to be silly….

you guys are all business though so I guess I shouldn’t be silly

[viscid swift]

How long did it take you to kill Yamashiro anyway

[rapid shard]

Shimanto isnt really a option atm. I cant get her FS5 for a bit. And took like 60-70ish seconds

[stark quiver]

shimanto isnt an option at all

[viscid swift]

Shimanto is still solid at dev 30

Though not at level 104

Cheshire I guess is an option

[rapid shard]

I was told shes pretty mid at just dev30

[viscid swift]

That was either taken out of context or someone is an idiot

[stark quiver]

o shit

shes good at dev 30, but idk howgood in w14

[rapid shard]

Using her at just Dev30 do i need to run the gun listed in her skill or is better gear overall better.

[viscid swift]

You'd be using her mainly for AA so

[rapid shard]

Ill work on getting her geared and I'll give Chesire a shot. She can at least do more dmg than Anchorage lol

[slow fox]

Are there URs that give cross-fleet anti-air interceptions?

Or - well, doesn't have to be UR.
-# Or a mainline

[vale spindle]

/crossfleet i don't think so

[odd root]

https://www.azurlaneecgc.com/images/equip_misc/Cross-fleet_Effects.jpeg

[cobalt rapids]

pure aa interceptions ? no
but some plane barrages like amagi cv can intercept when they strike

[boreal wagon]

i accidentally overwrote acasta with ardent's info lol (which is now fixed) but yes notes always refer to the past and never war archives (war archives has its own section)

[slow fox]

noshiro

any others?

[cobalt rapids]

fritz should be aswell
nano is just butterflies
and idr implac
and idk essex

[slow fox]

Fritz used in support fleet renown

[cobalt rapids]

nvm fritz planes in barrage dont have aa guns

[boreal wagon]

neither does and did impa even have a cross barrage

[cobalt rapids]

oh right implac was just freeze

so amagi reigns alone

[stark quiver]

dang

[slow fox]

-#

[analog tendon]

if i buy a Guild Tech (like for example the dock slots) and later change guild do i keep the Tech i bought or do i have to buy it again?

[boreal wagon]

you keep it

[frozen solstice]

what do you think about the ships' equipment

[cobalt rapids]

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide

[frozen solstice]

aha thanks

[timid vortex]

to unlock more options in PR development I need to level and limit break ships?

[onyx flame]

to gain faction tech yes

collection, mlb and lvl 120 give faction tech

[rapid shard]

For using Hedgehog on Sandy is it better to drop toolbox or washing machine?

[left wasp]

which one here should be mlb-ed next

[gilded carbon]

I thought that DD's are more suited for anti-sub duty?

[rain vine]

toolbox

[cobalt rapids]

implac z52 traf

[rapid shard]

I aint sure tbh I just know sandy is busted at almost everything and remember seeing someone say to use hedgehog on sandy

[wind hazel]

sandy has respectable asw stats, that's about it

[left wasp]

Ok so I just mlb-ed Implac
Hakuhou/Shinano/Implac
or should I wait until I can mlb Amagi CV and replace one of em?

[atomic solstice]

how do i keep my backline alive while grinding for shipyard exp?

[cobalt rapids]

no need to wait
and z52 and traf afterwards will be largely better buffs and more content coverage than upgrading shinano to amagi in ijn fleet

gear accordingly grind in ch12 on safe threat and boost ur ships with xp packs till they survive

[atomic solstice]

repair kit + fpe?

[atomic solstice]

main fleet

[wind hazel]

what are you using that they have risk of dying??

[atomic solstice]

vanguard is easy to keep alive i just run unicorn, but i dont want to drop down to only grinding 2 ships in the backline if i can avoid it

fuckass purple russian bbs

[wind hazel]

dont go all BB, put some CV

you still need some AA in w12 if your fleet is pepega, even though it's easy

[atomic solstice]

oh shit yeah i have volga

[cobalt rapids]

xp pack them more lvls so they can survive
u can use hpaa but someone in that fleet has to deal dmg

[atomic solstice]

shes already maxed tho so rip exp

[wind hazel]

raise someone else

[atomic solstice]

no other russian cvs

[wind hazel]

volga lv125?

[atomic solstice]

yea

ok i lied she only has 1.2m banked

[rain bobcat]

using AA radars can also be useful

[scarlet cosmos]

is North carolina bad? I really like her because waifu

[atomic solstice]

shes so bad but I also love her she's the only ship i ever bought a skin for

[scarlet cosmos]

me too

[atomic solstice]

shes fucking perfect

[scarlet cosmos]

so is it her stats that make her bad or..

[atomic solstice]

fumo?

[scarlet cosmos]

Honestly even if she's bad, she's perfect to me 😭 i will try to make her usable in W15. Do we have any recommended loadouts for her?

[atomic solstice]

standard bb gear, but put a fuse AA gun to proc her skill

[scarlet cosmos]

Fuse gun AA is the one with the timer on it right?

If it's standard BB gear, Im thinking champy gun, white + black shell .. uhh.. anything else im missing? Im not sure atm haha

[onyx flame]

just follow this
https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide for whichever content your tackling

[atomic solstice]

yea

[scarlet cosmos]

What is a fuse aa gun, and why is it good for NC?

[atomic solstice]

read her augment skill

[rapid shard]

How much more difficult is 14-4 compared to 14-3?

[knotty jolt]

not much from what i can remember

The hardest part will be the boss tho

[rain bobcat]

boss is a dps check

there are like 5 waves before boss even spawns

and boss spawns with 2 BBs

[knotty jolt]

My fleet which I'm pretty sure was decent enough loses around half it's hp after the battle is over for reference

[wind hazel]

not dead=good

[rapid shard]

What fleet did you run? My boss fleet is down to bout 1/4-1/3 on 14-3 right now.

[wind hazel]

what fleet are you running

[rain bobcat]

if you have darc or eldridge run them on boss

[rapid shard]

The one I was reccomeneded lol

[knotty jolt]

Top fleet was the mobbing one bottom is the boss fleet

[wind hazel]

they will do fine

[knotty jolt]

damn just as i sent that my phone died bruh

[wind hazel]

why arent you flaggin musashi

[scarlet cosmos]

what's the best fuse aa gun for NC?

[rain bobcat]

why is z52 middle and mushi not flag

[knotty jolt]

Ignore the posistions I was doing shit with them

[rain bobcat]

the german one

[scarlet cosmos]

ty!

[rain bobcat]

well if you want

you can do with the british one since it gives FP

[scarlet cosmos]

hmm, that sounds good, but why is the german one better?

[knotty jolt]

fastest reload and second highest range iirc

[rain bobcat]

british - higher 1 salvo dmg and has FP
german - very slightly better dps

[scarlet cosmos]

makes sense, ill stick with german!

[wind hazel]

this is my first time hearing about using german fuze on NC

[rain bobcat]

tbf the 4(?) fuze gun are generally all close to each other with tradeoffs

the USS and uhh I think iris one has shorter range slightly more dmg

[rain bobcat]

british and german have 36 or something range but slightly slower

[knotty jolt]

range/damage/fire rate trade offs

[rain bobcat]

wtf is that cursed colour

[knotty jolt]

i have dark mode enabled

[onyx flame]

negative mode

[wind hazel]

more like cursed mode

[knotty jolt]

cause fuck the white background of the wiki

[rain bobcat]

nah that's unironically chalked

[rapid shard]

Finally someone else who agrees

[knotty jolt]

it's 2:03am right now and i don't wanna burn my eyes

[wet prairie]

Wiki dark mode when

[slow fox]

-# Can use lardb

[scarlet cosmos]

for w15, how does musashi flag, unicorn and NC sound as main mob

[knotty jolt]

are we really using NC for w15 content?

[rapid shard]

NC is the massive weak link sadly

[wet prairie]

NC? North Carolina?

[slow fox]

-# North Carolina is apparently used in some W15 stall fleets.

[wind hazel]

it sounds really trash lol

[wet prairie]

That’s a first

[rain bobcat]

probably very cope

[wind hazel]

think people tested NC when her augment came out too, and she perform worse than existing options

[wet prairie]

Isn’t standard mob Aquila, tank bb, uni?

[wind hazel]

her heal wasn't enough to cover her lack of damage

[knotty jolt]

iirc the problems with fuse aa guns is posistion cause isn't it like a vary narrow cone infront of them?

[rapid shard]

Pretty sure NC is ranked as one of the worst SR BBs in game

[rain bobcat]

NC would have to one shot the planes that get past vanguard screening to be worthwhile there

[slow fox]

-# I did some ( N = 10 ) testing with Fuse AA Guns. It was par-par with accelerator AA.

[rain bobcat]

pitiful dmg pretty much

[wet prairie]

Also why would you run NC over an aux healer like Aquila

[scarlet cosmos]

i know NC is ranked as one of the worst SR BBs but she is waifu 😭

[wind hazel]

just gotta accept your waifu is trash

[scarlet cosmos]

i do have aquila so i guess i'll just continue using her then

[knotty jolt]

Keep waifus in lower worlds and events, don't drag them through hell

[scarlet cosmos]

okay :(

[wind hazel]

you can try it out lol, make a challenge for yourself or something. but we dont guarantee success with her

[wet prairie]

-# hey i got enty to win 14-4

[rapid shard]

I feel your pain. Massachusetts is top 3 for me but she never gets used much anymore

[knotty jolt]

I mean Enty is enty being able to avoid damage helps

[slow fox]

-# I feel like you can get honest people in this channel to help you build a fleet that will incorporate North Carolina.

[scarlet cosmos]

i could try that but it will be hard cope

[knotty jolt]

Would running double AA radar on NC even be a consider propsition?

[wet prairie]

-# idk if she’s 3 star on max difficulty capable though

[slow fox]

-# I did that when I ran her

[rain bobcat]

you can certainly try

[scarlet cosmos]

Enty is still good though isn't she

or is she power crept now

[slow fox]

-# She can't lethal auto full clear, but she can kill 6 mob

[rapid shard]

One of the best SR CVs. Just a little RNG

[wet prairie]

She’s good but she doesn’t quite fit with what the requirements of w14/15

[rain bobcat]

she's "as good as gear gets"

[knotty jolt]

Best ship is Ranger The queen of RNG

[rapid shard]

Only when paired with Foxhound tho

[slow fox]

-# You can also use lardb

[knotty jolt]

Roll the dice for that 50 quick take offs all double damage

[knotty jolt]

I will stick with opera cause i can't be bothered

[wet prairie]

Enty aux for 100% lucky E

[slow fox]

-# It's a website, not a browser
-# https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/equips?type=21

[knotty jolt]

[rain bobcat]

that's really not a massive improvement since you can already just reset for better luck

her main problem is she is only as good as the gear available

[wet prairie]

Fine, enty UR retrofit

[rapid shard]

Na they just gonna release enty II with that skill

[wet prairie]

Don’t think enty 2 exists, next enty was nuclear

[rain bobcat]

enty 2 doesn't make sense unless you pull up with a nuclear carrier

[slow fox]

-# Bismarck II didn't make sense either

[rain bobcat]

the other option is to give her skill a massive barrage

[warm latch]

ranger 2

[wet prairie]

German paper copium

[slow fox]

-# We're vibe-shipyarding

[wet prairie]

Tbf basically all of the German carriers

[rain bobcat]

it was copium about bismarck surviving her supposed "sinking"

[rapid shard]

For pure meme fleet purposes, other than Enty and Ranger is there a 3rd CV with a RNG double dmg skill?

[rain bobcat]

ark royal

[wet prairie]

You could throw in nagato as flag if you needed a bb

Isn’t her barrage stupidly low procc?

[wind hazel]

[rain bobcat]

her barrage isn't even that strong if you compare it to the behemoths

[wet prairie]

Though idk if it’s double her damage

[knotty jolt]

ya think nagato would see use again if her augment gave her 100% proc chance?

if she ever got one that is

[wet prairie]

Yeah, I remember her barrage being mid even when I joined

[rain bobcat]

she has pretty mid dmg

[wet prairie]

I just remember it being whole screen

[knotty jolt]

I miss the old azur lane, shit was simpler

[rain bobcat]

you mean enty hiryuu pam "simpler"

[knotty jolt]

yes

[slow fox]

-# Quick Takeoff:

-# Ranger
-# Bogue
-# Casablanca
-# Chaser
-# Long Island

[knotty jolt]

Enty 1v1 battles in excercise simpler

[slow fox]

-# They should apply quick takeoff to Ibuki's torpedoes.

[wet prairie]

enty still saves my ass in exercise

[knotty jolt]

RNG torpedo spam

[woven star]

Enty refit will be and this will be CL refit

[wind hazel]

fit deez

[atomic vortex]

Sheffy needs a buff

She's best girl and I will die on this hill

[knotty jolt]

Sheffy augment just a pair of panties kek

[atomic vortex]

That would be so peak

Unfortunately we got gun augment instead

[woven star]

Maid fleet in opposite of fox fleet

[south sequoia]

#al-general

[atomic vortex]

Are augments even vital for most ships

[wind hazel]

some are

[atomic vortex]

Or can you just chill with a sword of bow

[knotty jolt]

some become much better others not so much and some are entirely defined by it

Very rarily are the base augments used over their unique ones

[rapid shard]

Suchis guide has a augment list on which actually are good and impactful

[south sequoia]

Some are, but not all
Some of the effects are really impactful meanwhile some are minor upgrades at most.

At some point there was an aug that made a character worse? I couldn't remember who

[rapid shard]

Think that was Massachusetts aug

[woven star]

Some augments gives rld which standards don't have, plus some major stats. So yes

[atomic vortex]

Fair enough

[robust onyx]

A EU CA

[rain bobcat]

-# pov 10% more torp dmg and that's it

[south sequoia]

When in doubt just approach suchi's guide page for it, or just ask here

[south sequoia]

Ah its finally clicked

minneapolis

[rapid shard]

Mass aug converts her ammo to AP which locks to medium/heavy and she sadly doesnt do well regardless

[rain bobcat]

massa's was an improvement

it only made her worse against light which frankly she did piss poor dmg against anyway

[slow fox]

-# I remember doing the calcs for Minneapolis eHP

-# And it being worse

[knotty jolt]

how

[slow fox]

-# Under some conditions (less intense pressure), her healing does not reach its maximum potential.

[red sapphire]

Good morning. Are there good/decent fighters without AA capabilities that are easy to obtain? I'm building my mob fleet and I want to use Essex Retro, so I try to not use AA fighters on the others CV. I need one fighter for Perseus and the other for Independence

[knotty jolt]

I think every fighter has AA capabilities as that's just a baked in mechanic

[red sapphire]

Because I don't have much resources, I seek for easy to get equipment, if anyone knows...

[onyx flame]

[knotty jolt]

The point of fighters are they can intercept planes

[wind hazel]

why are you trying to not use AA capable fighters? rigging essex MVP?

[red sapphire]

Essex benefit for being her who sinks airplanes ((When this ship's aircraft shoot down an enemy aircraft: gains 1 stack of Killer Formation (increases this ship's AVI by 1% (3%); can be stacked up to 5 times))

[wind hazel]

just use normal fighters on all of them

[wispy cosmos]

it is not worth sacking your fleet's intercept for that skill

[red sapphire]

Isn't worth? If I she can shoot down idk three aircraft on the first launch it's a 9% boost

[knotty jolt]

if you really must use non intercepting planes here the list

oh wait my brain is breaking

ignore that, thinking im going delirious lack of sleep

[onyx flame]

it technically boost her dmg but your also like losing dmg from your other carriers since giving them worse aircraft so its like not even worth the trade imo

[red sapphire]

BF-109G seems somethink I would use to say an example

The problem is that I'm kind newbie and I can't get that right now

[knotty jolt]

Just use normal fights

[red sapphire]

I wanted to ask for easier to get

[knotty jolt]

i mean if we're going by your exact wording then these are the only planes cause they can't intercept

but if we go by the thought of the planes with the worst interception damage that'd be a different list and story

[rain bobcat]

only rockets do not have intercepting capabilities and they still have AA guns

other fighters all have interceping capabilities

[red sapphire]

Oh, I see. I don't understand yet how everything works...

[wispy cosmos]

1. your fleet will not clear faster if it is dead from planes crashing into your backline; if that's not a concern then it doesnt matter if she's getting more stacks or not
2. there are gimmicks in endgame that hinder the performance of rocket fighters

[red sapphire]

I see. I wanted to "explote" that Essex buff but I gues I can ignore it in terms of equipment

Thanks everyone

[crystal flume]

do we know who the new UR on december will be? surely not another IJN

[rain bobcat]

no

[robust onyx]

Very unlikely to be IJN

[rain bobcat]

teasers only come 1 week before the event

[crystal flume]

guess more things to look forward then thank you

[red sapphire]

Should I pull Unzen?

[rain bobcat]

only if u have enough for collab and december

[red sapphire]

I have 366 cubes I think I can earn more

[rain bobcat]

unzen is quite niche

the last time I've used her in endgame over someone else was nagato META last year

she's good but not mandatory since her anti heavy specialty isn't currently needed

[red sapphire]

I see... I wanted to ask because I need some decent Vanguard ships

[rain bobcat]

if ur really lacking unzen is pretty good

but I stil wouldn't go all out

[red sapphire]

I see, thanks

[scarlet cosmos]

i just tried NC out on 14-4 to test and i was very sad

she did 30k dmg even with the recommended gear from everyone

im also curious how warspite is now with her augment. Is she for boss?

[onyx flame]

Thats an old ship for ya

[rapid shard]

Pretty sure her main use is PvP but i use her in boss fleets and she does decent

[onyx flame]

Hella expensive to get up and running thou

[scarlet cosmos]

im at the point where i want to challenge myself by using old ships

i do need some help with decision making though -- Im almost there to obtaining hindenburg (312/513). I am 131/343 Daisen and 187/343 Bayard. Should I pr30 Daisen and Bayard first before switching focus to 6 for hindenburg?

[rapid shard]

Have you finished PR8?

[scarlet cosmos]

havent even started on it tbh 😅 i just returned after 1 year hiatus

when i left, pr 6 was the newest

[rapid shard]

General advice is to focus PR8 but with your current progress ill let someone smarter weigh in lol

[onyx flame]

are you on 7?

[scarlet cosmos]

im on 7 right now yeah

[onyx flame]

how many prints are you at for nakh?

[scarlet cosmos]

im currently priortizing bayard and daisen. For nakh, I have 128

is it better for me to prio I-404 over Sovetsky Soyuz btw?

[onyx flame]

IMO just stay on pr7 till you finish nakh, since she's a good carrier and even more so with soyuz (rerun approx within first half of 2026) and pr7 has La-9 that you want quite a few number of like 3? or 4 cant rmb how many

[scarlet cosmos]

im currently 5/6 stars for i-404, and 4/6 for sovetsky soyuz

[onyx flame]

you really shouldnt be half mlbing urs either no lb or mlb

[peak fable]

so uh, when there is a farmable purple ship, but you can only farm them at less cost effective stages, lets say Chapter 10, should I go out of my way to farm them there or just use purple bulins?

[onyx flame]

imo just use purple bulins they are much more common

[scarlet cosmos]

i got recommended to do i-404 while i was in the middle of my soyuz here 😭

i guess ill stick with i-404 for now since im further in

[rain bobcat]

404 is already the best sub at lb2

if you dont actively need more of her dps mlb everyone else

[scarlet cosmos]

i dont even use subs tbh

[rain bobcat]

especially when soyuz is such a great ship

[scarlet cosmos]

i know i should, but i dont 😭

[rapid shard]

No point MLBing her if you dont use her. Just throw her in fleet for the buff

[rain bobcat]

you dont need subs period

you can one shot harbiters and be 40s overkill without subs

[scarlet cosmos]

sounds good , im going to put i-404 on the back burner and finish soyuz. Is Soyuz used in mob or boss?

[rain bobcat]

it just makes it slightly easier since they can contribute like 100k+ dmg total against bosses and help in w15/14 mob fights

[scarlet cosmos]

considering i have archerfish and flasher already, i think i'll just put her in there and see what happens

[rain bobcat]

boss if you dont have the top 4 options or use nakhimov

[scarlet cosmos]

what are the top 4 options?

currently im just using musashi, implacable and haku

in w15 im using musashi mob and NJ boss

[rain bobcat]

meck zwei lion alsace

[scarlet cosmos]

oh man ive been using alsace in mob ahaha

[rain bobcat]

you can run soyuz boss if you dont need NJ

aka if ur not using yorktown

because soyuz has better crossfleet

[scarlet cosmos]

yeah im not using yorktown either, i think ive been using her in support fleet with illustrious and independence

[rain bobcat]

she's fine mob but much better boss

[scarlet cosmos]

that makes sense her barrage is insane

[rain bobcat]

musashi is enough for mob

[scarlet cosmos]

okay, ill use the bulin from this pass and uzen rerun to mlb soyuz, thanks!

if i use zwei, i dont need implac or time stop right?

[rain bobcat]

you aren't supposed to use implac in a BB boss comp anyway

[scarlet cosmos]

oh i use her usually with 1 bb 2 cvs. or is that bad?'

[rain bobcat]

im talking about single target bossing

[woven star]

If have Eldridge retro it's usually enough slow for general usages

[forest palm]

for BB maybe

[peak fable]

okay I'm very close to gold cap, what are good ways to invest my gold as early to mid game player (don't say cats)? I've been mainly investing into upgrading my gear so far, but I feel like I will run out of plates sooner or later that way...

[rain bobcat]

theres genuinely only cats if you remove awakening and gear upgrade cost

[forest palm]

also are you talking about soft, or hard cap

[rain bobcat]

^

hard cap for on hand coin is 600k

[peak fable]

soft cap, didnt even know there is a hard cap lol

[peak fable]

alright, thanks for the info

[forest palm]

do your research la

[peak fable]

I got another question, how much more tanky is a ship with heavy armor comapred to medium armor. I see a fair amount of BCs have more HP, but medium armor than BBs, but BBs are tankier, right?

[eternal moth]

Ignore armor for back lines. For front line, it's a little more complicated, and will depend on what you're fighting. Heavy armor takes more damage from torpedoes, for example

[forest palm]

armor type only matters so much as the ammo type weakness which goes both ways, after that it's a stats game

[weary gust]

Dorm food from shop if it costs coins, building PR/DR ships (though that's more mid-late game you get into high production on those), augments (again mid-late game), gear lab (late game), and buying the weekly 24x roses for Personal Quarters (again late game).

[peak fable]

I guess it's rock paper scissors, but there aren't many things that beat rock (heavy armor), cause not that many ships have AP ammo, right?

[forest palm]

that's completely wrong

[peak fable]

oh thank you, you reminded me that I can spam buy gold boxes now, forgot about that lmfao

[rain bobcat]

plane and torp heavy stages melt heavy armor

[weary gust]

I wouldn't buy gold boxes.

Most of the gear in them is very bad.

[rain bobcat]

which is.... the entirety of 13H 14 15

[eternal moth]

Just remember that the soft cap ONLY means you can't get coins from the market, nothing else.

[peak fable]

oh

so... does light/medium armor do better against these?

[peak fable]

that's good to know, ty c:

[forest palm]

like I said it's a stats game, armor type isn't an end all be all.

wrong person

[peak fable]

alright ty

[peak fable]

that made me look up what they actually give and holy fuck, you are right, they are trash unless you are completely new...

[eternal moth]

I think the only 2 vanguard with heavy armor are Agir and Napoli, so typically your tank will have medium, but sometimes you'll run things like Z52 or Eldridge, who have light.

[peak fable]

I thought they give ALL possible gold gear, I didnt know the slection was extremely limited

[rain bobcat]

[onyx flame]

gold catapult is always nice to get thou

[weary gust]

Gold cata, barracuda, quad homing torp, and gold hellcat are like the only notable things you can get from gold boxes. 95% of everything else is garbage or extremely rapidly replaced and only useful for brief transitional new player equipment. And Barracuda/Hellcat get replaced fairly fast too.

[forest palm]

little Agir but who cares about her

[knotty jolt]

Quick question: would the difference be way too negligible to even consider the 76mm AA?

This is for z52 btw

[eternal moth]

I'd take the 113 if you can make it

Otherwise I think the 76 is fine

[knotty jolt]

I already got the 113 on her

[eternal moth]

Then yes, just keep that one.

[knotty jolt]

Was considering the rainbow twin 100mm as it's only .15 seconds slower for improved main gun damage

[echo valve]

Say, if I want to get a ship which is only way to get her is in either light/heavy/special build, can I wait for an event and hope for the chance to get her?

[knotty jolt]

Wait for wishing well then

[eternal moth]

Wait for a wishing well, and make sure you have plenty of cubes.

I've had to do that with a couple of ships now.

[knotty jolt]

The annoying part about wishing well is it's usually on top of a brand new banner with new ships

[echo valve]

They're white C ship I'm just wanting to have them in the dock for me to retire quickly when I need it

[eternal moth]

Then just keep doing 1 light/day

You'll get them eventually

[onyx flame]

if its from light you might get her from your daily one pulls but who knows when so yea wishing well is really the only option to improve your odds
might also get 'lucky' when event since event banner pulls from heavy or specials

[knotty jolt]

Which ships is it you need exactly?

[echo valve]

So I just need to suffer the loss when heavy build is needed (kinugasa in this case)

[eternal moth]

You can get them during events, yes

[onyx flame]

doesnt kinu sometimes appear as a event map drop? or am i misrmbing

[knotty jolt]

Just construction heavy and special

[eternal moth]

But she's heavy AND special, so she should show up in every event pool

[muted wind]

that's actually also slightly misleading due to volley time, which i believe is 0.1s more on the rainbow gun? so it's actually a bit worse than it seems

[echo valve]

That's good then since others are light I can do it with daily 1 build

[knotty jolt]

Can we consider "all work, all play robot" with its 1% damage boost every 20sec and gold burn for reload buff which that make a difference? Cause those are the aux on my z52

[muted wind]

the extra reload probably matters more for z52 than a tiny bit extra damage since it will also mean she heals herself more... well... alongside the extra bullets from her skills but yeah

[sonic nova]

https://x.com/AzurLane_EN/status/1987550755000090791
Is there a list of the full roster somewhere? I'm particularly interested to know if these skins will rerun:

• Shinano bunny fit
• Taihou bunny fit
• Napoli bunny fit

Azur Lane Official (@AzurLane_EN)

★Black Friday Rerun Outfits★

To celebrate the holiday, a special list of Black Friday Rerun Outfits will return on 11/13. The Black Friday Rerun Outfits includes outfits that were available before 6/1/2025, collaboration outfits not included.

#AzurLane #Yostar #BlackFriday

X · Nov 9, 2025, 4:00 PM

[muted wind]

a list might be included in the patch notes when that's published

[undone plover]

Taihou skin “should”
And napoli and shinano skins were removed from the store a while back
I dont think they have been re-added since
It is possible they will be silently re-added but I wouldn’t get my hopes up

Also wait for lars I am sure he knows more

[sonic nova]

If Hindenburg was silently reran then I would think of it as a possibility

[boreal wagon]

taihou should
shina and napoli might because hinden bunny also reran but its a bit of 🔮

[muted wind]

yeah, let's just wait for the patch notes/update, we'll see whether they are included then

[sonic nova]

[undone plover]

Was hinden skin changed at all for rerun?

[candid gale]

Guys what ship should i pick?

[eternal moth]

Who do you like the most? That one, or Z23, You can get all 3 anyways

[knotty jolt]

any

[candid gale]

Oo i can get those 3?

Ok thanks for help

[analog tendon]

Should i go ahead and use my 3 UR bulins for my only UR (Shinano) or should i wait, considering i do plan to roll for Unzen and sooner or later i'll reach UR pity and probably get Musashi?

[knotty jolt]

is shinano 4/6 limit broken?

cause 4 bulins is needed for max and if isn't max limit broken it's no different from non limit broken in terms of usefulness

plus shinano is in the perma pity pool

It's a waste to use bulins, a very time restricted resource, on something you can get whenever eventually

[analog tendon]

i haven't used any bulins on her yet, just leveled her to the base cap. And right now i have only 3 UR bulins (although i CAN get a 4th one from the Proto shop)

[knotty jolt]

Personally I'd probably hold onto them for now

We're getting a new UR in december and who know what the fuck it'll powercreep

Musashi and shinano are in perma pity pool to so you can just get dupes from that

also unzen is good but not really needed

pull if ya want but don't spend bulins on her if you can

until we see what the new UR is capable of

Cause who knows she might end up being the best thing and you'd have wasted on unzen

[analog tendon]

Got it. Thanks

[silver river]

Hi, could someone help me put together the best fleet for the OS? From the ships I have?

[knotty jolt]

Create a thread and someone will assist you there

[silver river]

Hi, can someone help me put together the best fleet for the OS? From the ships I have?

[eternal basalt]

~~A patchnote JP or CN wont help with ~~

[static garden]

Does anyone have any idea why I can't do the Fate simulation on ägir?
Thanks in advance.

[eternal basalt]

She has none

[novel solstice]

You can pile up the blueprints for it though, she'll get a fatesim eventually.

[wet haven]

I need help to get the S Rank in Tactical Training (Aviation) Level 100 for the daily raids/farming. I'm trying to build a formation based on a video I've seen but so far I don't have the best results.
Here's my formation for it:
Saratoga (Retrofit) Lv 114 (Flagship)
Ranger (Retrofit) Lv 110
Yorktown Lv 111
Birmingham Lv 111
Sirius Lv 111
Helena (Retrofit) Lv 110

I'm open to listen to alternative formations.

[onyx flame]

no better carrier to replace ranger and york?

[wet haven]

Are Long Island and St. Louis acceptable to replace them? Both are Lvl 125 and the same classes

[tulip tinsel]

just convert it into proto cores Don't stockpile it

[onyx flame]

st. louis isnt a carrier thou?
dont think long island will cut it either

just filter your dock to cv and send a pic for us to reco

[wet haven]

hold on

[onyx flame]

the only other thing i can think of is if the aircraft on the carrier themselves arent up to snuf

[onyx flame]

should be able to like nuke it with shinano, sara and like +1 other carrier

only other issue ig is if they arent equipped properly that or your vanguard is dying too quickly

[knotty jolt]

I mean ya could just keep running with ranger and hope for the multi quick take offs to just nuke everything to oblivion

[onyx flame]

mmm gambling

[wet haven]

The problem I have is that they are not doing enough damage quickly. Maybe my gear is the problem.

[muted wind]

what's the gear like?

[knotty jolt]

gear is half the battle

[rapid shard]

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide

[onyx flame]

yea thats my guess as well, i cleared it with lower level carriers

[rapid shard]

Use that guide for general gear guide it will help massively

[wet haven]

If Shinano has to be included, I can stick myself with Empery Dragon Sakura Empire faction ships because of her skills.

[rapid shard]

Shinano is IJN not empery

[onyx flame]

well prob gear check first

[rapid shard]

Shinano Sara and Long Island should easily clear it with decentish gear no issue at all

[wet haven]

Hold on

The guide is really neat, thanks.

On my formation. I placed three Sakura Empire ships, counting with Shinano to upgrade her skill. I still have to level everyone up, but I can wait.

Without counting the levels, how's this?

[onyx flame]

im ngl you can prob forgo the skill req and just run the previous vanguard

you only need to S clear the stage once anyway no point leveling other ships just for it

[wet haven]

I've re-read the skill. Not worth it in the end.

[rapid shard]

Dont stress trying to proc her skill buff for the daily challenge. Its not that difficult to need it.

[atomic abyss]

wait what is this for

[onyx flame]

it is eventually but for tactical daily not really needed

[knotty jolt]

the tactical training daily

[rapid shard]

110 daily raid

[atomic abyss]

ah okay

[knotty jolt]

the level difference should provide a big enough damage boost to brute force it i think

[onyx flame]

it just a case of making sure vanguard survives long enuf for them to get nuked, which should be doable enuf

[rapid shard]

What is your current vanguard?

[wet haven]

How about this formation?

[rapid shard]

Put helena in middle and thats good to go

[wet haven]

Done it. But why?