gameplay-help

[wind hazel]

no lol

[robust nymph]

i thought that main gun was nice but idk LOL

[viscid swift]

there isn't one

[robust nymph]

i got these

[wind hazel]

the guns aren't the issue

but you should use this, it's great gun

[robust nymph]

isnt it from the last event?

[wind hazel]

it is

[robust nymph]

completely forgot about it already, okay

[robust nymph]

oh she uses the high performance thingy, okay awesome

[wind hazel]

also use her with another chinese ship

if it's just xp farm then whatever, but she mainly wanna be paired with another chinese ship

[robust nymph]

surely i can get through most stages with this

[wind hazel]

[pulsar mortar]

can't see anything regarding ship timer. How do you navigate here?

[short wagon]

event cats good right

[wind hazel]

@pulsar mortar

[robust nymph]

3 star or not to 3 star event stages?

[onyx flame]

there a bonus for 3 starring event stages

[violet grail]

@onyx flame @robust nymph if you check missions there are ones that give stuff for 3 star clears. 500 oil for T1

[pulsar mortar]

thanks

[safe nexus]

is there any difference from A-D event compared to the current T event

[wind hazel]

event map with hard maps usually have fleet stats requirement

[hushed sorrel]

i dont know about the new ones, but the event cats i know about have fixed skills which makes training them easy but they wasnt able to be as strong as a normal one. they are very good if you dont want to bother with training cats since they are decent

[dire kestrel]

What UR from the build exchange should i get? It's my first UR

[stark quiver]

o shit someone needs to make wiki

[dire kestrel]

What UR should i get?

[spark patio]

the only SR drop is Pearl, right?

[undone plover]

Shinano is usually best
Vanguard also good
If u have amagi/hakuhuo then shinano makes sense
If u have 1-2 UR BB vanguard makes sense

[dire kestrel]

Ok. Thank you

[undone plover]

Shinano can get mlb faster than vanguard since the rookie missions can give you a copy

Dont spend bulins on perma URs tho
Save for new URs

[stark quiver]

what about musashi

[boreal wagon]

yes

[stark quiver]

yes

theres no important new weapon that takes gold gun plates right

[barren cedar]

why some people say pirate ship girls are not good? im new i dont get it

[hushed sorrel]

dont worry to much you can use them, they just arent meta

[onyx flame]

from what i heard is that the have literally zero AA which puts you at the mercy of planes if you run a lot of em

[red sapphire]

Finally got Anchorage, I coin her right?

[robust nymph]

3 star sp as well or nah? not sure can you even 3 star it

[ivory pawn]

Can’t, no stars to earn.

[undone plover]

Did she archive yet? I am so washed idk

[ivory pawn]

Not yet. Next UR archive iirc, probably soon.

[violet grail]

the minigame seems kinda cheeseable by just staying far left, none of the enemies except bosses were able to hit me. Not sure how much score is needed though. Also any idea what you get from the gates that tell you to go check arcade?

[scarlet cosmos]

is it worth whaling out on this event?

[hushed sorrel]

as you dont seem to know, all minigames are made for fun. even if you die the fastest you get the same reward.

its just for rankings if you like that

[violet grail]

oh 😄 thank you for enlightening me.

[hushed sorrel]

thats for events only, not in the arcade where you earn points for the skin boxes

[lunar arrow]

There isn't a hard mode on this event, right?

[hushed sorrel]

i didnt see one, they might patch and add one but for now there is no hard mode i am aware of

[lunar arrow]

Lvl up ships on this event will be painful

[peak finch]

Guys, I'm new to the game and I don't know how to build my characters 😔

[violet grail]

https://azurlaneecgc.com/early_ship_recommendations/
https://azurlaneecgc.com/newbie_tips/

Here's a couple useful guides. If you have specific questions come back here.

[peak finch]

Thx

[violet grail]

TL;DR:
Unicorn, portland and helena from guild shop are some of the best ships for a long time, you will continue to use them for months. unicorn best healer in the game retrofit her asap.

[whole hinge]

Which event banned should I pull on?

[violet grail]

how many cubes do you have?
But in general whichever one has ships you like as eye candy. The ships themselves aren't good for any content. Don't waste too many cubes.

[viscid swift]

neither probably

[whole hinge]

Super low lol I started like a month ago

[soft raft]

Then don't bother

[violet grail]

just do 1 light pull per day ignore event banner then

[soft raft]

Unzen rerun soon™ and the highly likely Dec UR is also looming around the corner

Date a Live Collab likely in Nov too if you care about that franchise

[whole hinge]

Alright I will save thank you for your help 👍

[weary edge]

once u hit 400/400 for the UR exchange and you pull again will it go over 400?

[silk helm]

do we knwo when unzen rerun is

[rain haven]

does this event not have Hard mode?

[weary edge]

unzen rerun not officially announced yet, no hard mode for this event

[soft raft]

No

[viscid swift]

the JP patch notes mentioned an event rerun next update

[silk helm]

ty goat

[weary edge]

oh bc i wanted to wait for musashi to come to exchange

[forest palm]

you'll hit spark again way before that happens

[jolly condor]

which banner is worth pulling on ? if i have non of the ships

[viscid swift]

neither probably

[rain haven]

collection -> both, usage? probably neither

[grave mantle]

As for me, it is:
collection -> neither, usage -> neither

[late flame]

If you are new and/or lacking cubes just save

[versed dagger]

where can i find this?

[grave mantle]

PR8 research

[late flame]

Pr8 research

[versed dagger]

thanks

[uneven knot]

hey guys i see the ur triple 406 and wyvern are same priority tier but what would be more worth to invest into first? currently building up a fleet for w13 and trying to beat arbiter

[viscid swift]

priority tier where

[safe nexus]

is T6 basically D3?

[viscid swift]

no

[stark quiver]

hi

[stark quiver]

wyvern is better craft as a noob

[viscid swift]

priority can't be compared across tiers

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/gear-lab/#main-fleet-gear
give this a look

[violet grail]

T6 and T5 have oil cap if thats what you mean. if you want to farm event points then ye i guess t6 is the place probably.

[safe nexus]

oh ok ty

its surprisingly easy as i managed to 1:1 T6 so i thought it was basically something like B3

[stark quiver]

i accidentally deleted my sims copies

[violet grail]

is that an issue? they were dropping like flies last event

[safe nexus]

its cheap i got way too many

[onyx chasm]

Are any of the new characters in banner worth getting or do i just save

[violet grail]

only for collection purposes, just save

[stark quiver]

its an issue because i need to mlb and retrofit

[onyx chasm]

Anyone worth while coming in the next few months

[stark quiver]

unzen rerun maybe
new ur in december
date a live collab maybe

[violet grail]

unzen rerun then new UR in dec rumoured

[onyx chasm]

Hm

[safe nexus]

waiting for the last one 😭

[stark quiver]

do you care about collection %
if not you can save, if yes then you should pull

[onyx chasm]

Does collection do much

[stark quiver]

you get to flex to dirty noobs

[safe nexus]

will the ones in the current event shop rerun?

[onyx chasm]

Fair enough... But im on 270 cubes rn

[safe nexus]

you can just grind 12-2 or something anwyays

[stark quiver]

you infact should not pull

[onyx chasm]

Plus i wouldn't really have anyone to flex too

[frozen solstice]

what's worth it core shop?

[stark quiver]

the NEW ships this event will probably be in next halloween's dual banner
the rerun ships from last event thats in this current event will probably be relegated to perma

[violet grail]

can flex in #trophy-room for the 3 people that look in there

[peak fable]

are there any daily bonus multipliers for this event or no?

[ivory pawn]

#bot-spam message

[peak fable]

also do we know yet if any ship from the event is worthwhile playing?

[ivory pawn]

It’s Tempesta, probably not.

[peak fable]

That's what I was thinking as well, unfortunate

[safe nexus]

oh ok ty

[stark quiver]

amity is good for boss debuff for hard arbiter one strikes

[peak fable]

know anything about queen anne?

[stark quiver]

no

[peak fable]

she got her own music video, so I was thinking... maybe...

[stark quiver]

she is the poster girl for this event
but that doesnt make her good

[peak fable]

just read her skills... eh...

[stark quiver]

average tempesta gameplay

[peak fable]

I guess this is just a 4fun ship type

[stark quiver]

yea

[crystal flume]

what does this OPS do?

[hazy olive]

Is Queen Anne’s Revenge any good?

[hazy olive]

Operation Siren

[crystal flume]

so it boost dmg in opsi? but will it work if the equipment don't have fp boost?

[hazy olive]

Yes that’s what “OPS damage boost” means

[stark quiver]

what does it boost tho, does it have a cap?

[boreal wagon]

its a damage boost against specifically siren enemies in opsi and applies to all of the ships weapons
(not all enemies in opsi are sirens)

[crystal flume]

i see i see
is this mode also count as opsi?

[boreal wagon]

no
and META ships arent sirens anyway

[crystal flume]

good to know really thank you

[stark quiver]

larsybear9000, is the 20% cap per ship or per fleet

[boreal wagon]

per ship

[stark quiver]

bet

[boreal wagon]

siren killer also counts towards it
so would smth like jcrown etc

[stark quiver]

so its 20% cap per boat, sources can be from +11+ and siren killer

[boreal wagon]

sources can be any skill more specifically

[stark quiver]

thx babe

[sonic flame]

How do I get the Essex retrofit item?, do I have to wait for a come back?

[tulip tinsel]

wait 2 years or 1 idk

[undone plover]

next EN anni
august 2026

[tidal dust]

Is T6 the highest repeatable event stage?

[robust nymph]

how bad is pearl

[woven star]

If my mob fight timing less than 10 sec and I'm using Harbin what torps should I used for her? 550 3+2, 610 with black torp aux or 533 magnetic? Ideally if torp will be parallel like wyverns

Seems 610 with black aux useless cos torps spawn before mobs and don't get aim

[rain bobcat]

game broken?

[woven star]

Often bug

Usually I saw it in pvp

[eternal basalt]

Bluestacks TM bug

[hushed sorrel]

yeah thats why i quit using bluesucks

[sinful socket]

if I have the UR exchange, can I keep it and still stack summons for the next one, or should I use it now?

[warm latch]

no

if youre at 400/400 youre at 400/400 until you select a ur

[grave mantle]

Rephrase: use it now because you won't be getting progress past 400

[leaden mountain]

is it too late for this? i havent been on in like a week

[sinful socket]

yeah, but what if next perma banner is better than Shimikaze tho? (is that her name?)

[arctic snow]

is there hard mode for new event?

[stark quiver]

no

[arctic snow]

damn, sadge

[stark quiver]

too late to earn points
on time to buy stuff

[grave mantle]

Next perma should be Musashi, and she probably won't be added until next year

[leaden mountain]

[eternal basalt]

Too late to earn point, can still buy stuff (if you have points) (Oh, you said that too, misread )

[eternal basalt]

The following content is scheduled to be updated after the next maintenance.
・Event Rerun
・Permanent Event Implementation in the Mission History
・Character Story Addition```
![ShimaThink](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1023947348587593808.webp?size=128 "ShimaThink")

[grave mantle]

Eh? I kinda don't understand how that is connected to my message

[eternal basalt]

It's probably Musashi thats coming in 2 weeks

[grave mantle]

Isn't it memory with Musashi?

[autumn osprey]

Is event hard mode available for this time? I don't see the toggle for it or is it I need to clear all to have hard mode like main stages?

[rain bobcat]

its a T/SP style event

[autumn osprey]

Which is the type with no hard stages?

[viscid swift]

No, that wording means an event is getting added to the War Archives

Which is most likely to be Musashi's

[grave mantle]

Okay, looks like I didn't understand devs message...

[eternal basalt]

Her Secret is available right now for 1 week btw

[sinful socket]

so Musashi will be in a week?

or 2, anyways I should wait then

[forest palm]

mm, not exactly in a week

[flint sonnet]

What gonna be the next ur rerun ?

[eternal basalt]

Unzen

[forest palm]

Unzen

[grave mantle]

CA that refused to drop to me Unzen

[dawn wedge]

is it possible to make every super rare strong enough for the whole game content or do i need to focus on specific ships?

[sinful socket]

you will need to focus on some ships

especially late game

but by the time you get there, you'll have enough UR (from pulls, lab and SR Retrofitted)

[dawn wedge]

abt URs i got shimakaze, should i go for a dupe with the pity or would it be better to get a 2. UR

[sinful socket]

you don't need dupes in this game

you'll get UR Bulins overtime

[dawn wedge]

oh i see

[sinful socket]

as of now you can get 2/month and sometimes more if an event gives them

[dawn wedge]

perfect ty

[sinful socket]

also, eventhough Shimikaze is an UR and thus is probably better than your whole fleet rn, it's really not that good for an UR

[dawn wedge]

which UR would u recommend for me then in the banner rn?

[warm latch]

its not worth using ur bulins on the perma urs

[warm latch]

dont build specifically for one of the perma urs, if you have less than 400 cubes you really want to be saving them for new ur events, only doing 1 daily light build for daily task

[sinful socket]

yeah, what he said, basically the perma ones are at least 3 years old (if not waaaay more), so they basically get outclassed by the new ones (eg. Lion or Hakuhou)

[dawn wedge]

aight ty for ur time and help :)

[warm latch]

shima wouldnt be better because they probably cant mlb her

[sinful socket]

for now, you can get by with building shop super rare/epic ships and maybe try and get a solid 1 fleet

[dawn wedge]

what does mlb mean?

[sinful socket]

max limit break

[eternal basalt]

Max Limit Break

[grave mantle]

Some ships should stay in dock to not worsen your winrate

[knotty jolt]

Some ships are not able to do every content period

[sinful socket]

should I send him the Samheart guide for early game ships, or is it outdated?

[grave mantle]

I also have a question, who did powercreep Kronk?

[rain bobcat]

everyone

[dawn wedge]

is this guide on yt?

[grave mantle]

I WANT NAMES. And I'm asking because I have her and thinking about throwing a CB in my boss fleet

[inland shoal]

I mean Kronk wasn't even that amazing when she released, just take any other CB and they'll likely be better (well not Kala)

[sinful socket]

youtube guides kinda ass but here you go https://azurlaneecgc.com/early_ship_recommendations/

[dawn wedge]

ty

[sinful socket]

you can go through the website as a whole, some newbie tips and stuff like this that are probably way better than YT guide telling you to "go to the fox mines"

[inland shoal]

It's still fine

[sinful socket]

https://azurlaneecgc.com/newbie_tips/

[inland shoal]

The website as a whole isn't the most up to date cuz sam's a bit busy, but it's not too bad

[grave mantle]

I also wanted to add Chang Chun to this fleet, so Kronk would also get buffed, but it seems like I need to think about IB buffer because I also have Agir as option

[rain bobcat]

every single rainbow CB after her would be better

[grave mantle]

I only have Agir, Kronk and Guam. Guam is already in another fleet, so she is off list

[dawn wedge]

is it possible to auto sell 1* ships?

[rain vine]

nope

[viscid swift]

In addition to the CBs, Bayard, Eldridge, Plymouth, Z52, Laffey 2, Gouden Leeuw

[arctic snow]

how many cubes is a good number to save for next ur and date a live collab? got around 200 atm

[viscid swift]

Here's a tip, use good ships first and foremost and worry about buffs later

[viscid swift]

Well considering this banner just ate 500 cubes from me chasing a single SR, the more the better

[grave mantle]

ECTL made me think that TEX and T0 are good ships...

[rain vine]

you need 400 for UR banners to guarantee the UR
collabs have no guarantee, so it could be anyones guess how many cubes youre gonna need for that

[arctic snow]

god have mercy on you lmao

[grave mantle]

Sadly but from that list I only have Eldridge (not retrofitted, but with retro item) and Laffey who is in mob fleet with Guam

[arctic snow]

yeah that why i was wondering, i might throw like 50 cubes at it and see what comes out, but also dont wanna risk losing any colab ship

[rain vine]

i wouldnt bother with this banner

[viscid swift]

Well Kronshtadt does nothing for you to invest in her then

Anchorage would also be another option as well as Napoli

[arctic snow]

yeah, the one i wanted most is amity but she's in event shop, so there's no point really other than collection %, but i'm already doomed on that lmao

[grave mantle]

I thought about Anchorage, but I don't have her

[stark quiver]

how are you doomed on collection

[grave mantle]

Didn't play for 1 year and being lazy with research xp farm

[stark quiver]

i didnt play for 3-4 years until i started again

[daring canyon]

some low cost fleet to farm T6?

[mossy void]

Oh hey that's my cover

[woven star]

1-2 downes class + ranger all 0lb

[stark quiver]

t6?

i think they will explode

[tidal dust]

Do you get less event tickets if you repeat a stage too many times? I was farming t6 and the tickets went from 180 to 70 for some reason?

[rain vine]

no?
are you sure you were farming t6 and didnt accidentally do a different map?

[warm latch]

t3 gives 70 per run

[tidal dust]

Its possible, i wasnt paying a ton of attention maybe i switched it

[near cargo]

The event doesn't have hard mode?

[stark quiver]

no

this event offers
t1-6
SP
EX

[rapid shard]

Does T6 have oil cap?

[stark quiver]

yes

[rapid shard]

How bad is the xp/coins for it?

[stark quiver]

dunno yet

[daring canyon]

and the boss?

[eternal basalt]

T5 and T6 have

[viscid swift]

have you tried that on T6?

because I have a rather sneaking suspicion you didn't

[daring canyon]

if I don't fight the 3 star enemy fleet, it get until the boss but it two-shotted bogue

[viscid swift]

just use Unicorn and a DDG

and I wouldn't bother try to low cost T6

either full fleet or low cost T4

[stark quiver]

thats normal

[subtle grotto]

How do you get more blueprints for pr1

[knotty dome]

if i'm out of cog chips do i do 15-1?

[forest palm]

you just use coins for PR1 ships, there's no reason to focus PR1 or buy prints from any shop to use them on PR1

[subtle grotto]

You can buy prints?

[viscid swift]

after you unlock them

[tropic tusk]

Is there hard mode on the event?

[viscid swift]

No

[forest palm]

Part 2 is about it

[tropic tusk]

Ok I'm not blind 3q

[turbid marsh]

15-1 or 13-1 with sandy/z52 + unicorn/aquila

[hard mesa]

Is old demi canon(main gun for main pirate ships) only obtainable from event map drop?

[ivory pawn]

There's one in the Event Shop.

[dawn spade]

are the new pirate ships any good? Lyme and Queen Anne?

[ivory pawn]

Unfortunately, pirate ships tend to be bad by default. It doesn't seem like this event will be any exception.

Can still bring them to lower stakes stuff as usual if you wanted.

[hard mesa]

Oh, cool, thanks

[silent hearth]

So this is a new Event and not a re-run correct?

[dawn spade]

ye its new

[ivory pawn]

Correct, although there's a few rerun rewards hidden in the milestones/shop.

[silent hearth]

ok awesome, ty

Should i just run a 1-1 fleet with like a DD or something? should i clear the sub-bosses or just ignore them?

to get through all of the event stages until i get to D6 i mean.

D3* sigh

[ivory pawn]

T6, actually.

[silent hearth]

oh thats what all of that stuff about T6 was? ive only ever been in 2 events, the re-run and the Hakuhou event so i thought they were all the same.

[ivory pawn]

You'll want to clear the whole map if you want the 3* rewards. But yeah if you can run 1-1 it's ideal to save oil.

[silent hearth]

oh theres map rewards too? i forgot about that. mmk ty ty

any reason to do the minigame?

[stark quiver]

reason to enter, no reason to play
just go in the game and insta leave lol

[silent hearth]

ah i fuddled around with it a bit until it started looping. good to know, ty

[sweet delta]

There's always a reason to do a new mini game

[rapid shard]

What exactly is the gimmick on EX causing only 1 dmg?

Is it just a timing window thing?

This is best run so far. Fell short by like x5 bars.

[blissful hamlet]

new tempesta ship any good?

[left cedar]

QA seens like okaish
but her dmg and her position req hold back a bit, and for sure dosnt seen viable for hard content

[soft raft]

Common Tempesta L

[blissful hamlet]

:ranchSexHodo:

[silent hearth]

got both Queen Anne's Revenge and Portsmouth Adventure on my first 10 pull, so i guess RNJesus blessed me again.

[pallid wind]

When should I pull for event banners? Like can I pull them if I like them or do i have to watch out if they suck in game

[rapid shard]

Tempesta stuff isnt that great for gameplay. Just pull if you like them. Unzen reun is coming near future tho FYI

[pallid wind]

Unzen? 🤔

[rapid shard]

UR IJN crusier

[soft raft]

URs are very high priority
everything else is at your own risk to put it simply, especially if you have less than 400 cubes

[soft raft]

UR Torp CA that essentially powercrept Shimakaze completely
Mainly because unlike Shimakaze, she has actual Gun damage

[rapid shard]

Is that her strength? Just Shima but can actually dmg with gun?

[pallid wind]

Ngl twin that’s alot of words I don’t get 😭

[rapid shard]

Basically shes a strong dmg focused vanguard unit that would most likely be a very good unit for you to have

[pallid wind]

Is she in this banner or next banner

[rapid shard]

Upcoming banner but hasn't had a exact date yet announced

[viscid swift]

next update, probably 2 weeks from now

[pallid wind]

Ah okay okay I can pull for banner that are mid if I have more than 400 cubes

[rapid shard]

Yes. 400 cubes is enough to pity a UR. You always want to have 400 on hand before pulling for collection

[viscid swift]

well I wouldn't given we have a date a collab next month as well

[pallid wind]

Oh word ???

[viscid swift]

yeah

[rapid shard]

Has anything been datamined for that yet?.

[viscid swift]

what

[pallid wind]

I think he mean like leaks

[rapid shard]

The date a live collab units

[viscid swift]

AL's testing is pretty much all internal, there is nothing to be datamined to leak

[rapid shard]

Gotcha. I know the EN side is last to know stuff and I dont keep up with CN/JP side at all so wasnt sure if something had popped up there yet

[pallid wind]

Omg I just got it super rares ARE NOT ULTRA RARES 😭😭

These are what yall were taking about right???

[rapid shard]

UR is highest rarity lol

[viscid swift]

rainbows yeah

[pallid wind]

I genuinely had a brain stroke from realizing

[little plinth]

how do I shoot the bottle in pearl's skin after clicking the left boob? I saw a video but can't replicate it

[rapid shard]

Those in the selector are the permanent URs they are lowest priority amongst the UR pool. Limited URs are stronger than them in almost every way. You'll collect the permanent ones over time

[pallid wind]

So how do I know if a banner has ur it just says it?

[rapid shard]

Banner will say UR lol

[little plinth]

yeah it'll show the rarities on the banner

[pallid wind]

Wait I have two skins are all skins interactive ??

Like Danmachi skins was there something cool happens randomly?

[little plinth]

there are 3 main categories of skins

1. static (no movement but has voice lines, will do a little bounce if you click or they do an idle line)
2. dynamic (some motion but restricted to a few fixed movements, can't be triggered by clicking)
3. l2d(+) (lots of motion, sometimes multiple poses, various interactables; l2d+ will also have a "bonus" pose)

[soft raft]

The prices also increase in proportion with how much you can do with the skin
Tho sometimes we do get some free static ones

[silent hearth]

did you ever figure out what was causing that 1 dmg thing? its a buff she gets during EX

[rapid shard]

Can anyone post the fleet building site link?

[sweet delta]

/fleettool or /calc

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Tool for the compact sharing of fleets and their gear by renhex

[fiery swan]

Does Asama have a ghost gun

[rapid shard]

Thanks

[silent hearth]

my last msg was towards you Ninja

[sweet delta]

Most if not all cruisers with equipped torpedoes have a ghost gun

[fiery swan]

She keeps stealing MVP even though I don't actually see her shots hitting that much

[wispy cosmos]

overkill from torps?

[hot oriole]

I want to have rainbow BB gun from Eagle Union but it takes so much time to grind the crafting materials

(currently I don't have any UR gear)

[eternal moth]

Just use the purple 406mk6 instead until you get the mats

[hot oriole]

Hm....

[eternal moth]

Or do you mean the twin 460? Either way, just stick wtih the mk6

[viscid swift]

457 not 460

[eternal moth]

Oh right

[fallen jay]

Are the tempest ships worth pulling for? Other than collection?

[hot oriole]

No the triple 406

[viscid swift]

no

[eternal moth]

Collection only

[fallen jay]

Alright thanks. Next question is the event worth grinding? Or should I instead focus on farming up exp and gold from 12-4?

[eternal moth]

Just pull all 3 in 20 pulls like I did. #bigbrain

[swift vector]

how do i get rainbow gear fast? only got like 4

[viscid swift]

event is always worth grinding

[fallen jay]

I mean I got 3 of them in 4 pulls total so I’m on a good streak

[eternal moth]

If you don't have Pearl stop pulling, she's the store ship

[fallen jay]

I got Fancy and 2 Portsmouth

[eternal moth]

You should be pulling on the other banner for the new ships if you're going to be pulling on one

There are 2 event banners, one for the old ships only, the other one has the new ships and the old ships at a lower pull rate

[hot oriole]

Is this thing good?

[fallen jay]

So pull for Anne, Lyme, and Royal James only?

Thanks a bunch!

[eternal moth]

Actually, before I say yes, how many cubes do you have, and do you have Unzen and Musashi?

[fallen jay]

I have 349 and I’m not sure what would they be under so I can search?

Like faction I mean

[eternal moth]

They're both Sakura URs

[fallen jay]

I have neither

[viscid swift]

no

[eternal moth]

They're very likely to be running in 1-2 weeks; Unzen as a rerun, Musashi being added to permapool

[fallen jay]

And since I don’t have over 400 cubes I shouldn’t spend any right?

[eternal moth]

Since you have a fairly low number of cubes, I'd just do 1 build per day on the new banner.

[fallen jay]

Understood. Since I did several builds today should I skip for two days? Or just do 1 pull for the rest of the event daily?

[eternal moth]

Unless you don't care about the new ships, then just do 1/day on light as normal

Always do 1 per day on light at minimum, since it's free

[fallen jay]

I like collecting all of them

[silent hearth]

only try to collect them all poke-master if you have the dock space...

[fallen jay]

I have over 700 slots

Not enough for EVERYONE but enough to get a good chunk

[silent hearth]

thats a good bit, but even at 600 i was struggling and ive only been playing for 2 months. unless you dont care about MLB commons/blues/elites then yeah you should be fine.

[fallen jay]

And I do have gems saved up so I can buy more slots

[velvet rapids]

Is there no hard mode for this event?

[silent hearth]

nope just part 1/2 and the EX and SP

[viscid swift]

that is correct

[fallen jay]

I’ve been working on MLBing everyone for the ship tech so I can do more of the higher level PR ships.

[velvet rapids]

That's weird

[viscid swift]

hardly, this is pretty typical for Tempesta events

not like this is the first time such an event format was utilized

[silent hearth]

yeah i was getting to the point where i started retired my blues and commons that i had saved for MLB when i had 600 dock space.

[velvet rapids]

Guess I forgot tempest event does this

[fallen jay]

Commons for enhancement blues only enough to MlB or if they have a retrofit in case I decide to waste resources on them far down the line

[silent hearth]

yeah commons mostly went to the wayside for enhancement, but i got to the point where all the ships i could think of were enhanced XD

[fallen jay]

Ok next question is Warspite any good to retrofit? Or ignore?

[silent hearth]

IMO warspite retro is awesome. and FANTASTIC for PVP

[fallen jay]

I’m just enhancing everyone slowly

[viscid swift]

not worth half a UR Bullin

[fallen jay]

Are any of these worth using my Urs?

[viscid swift]

those are all of your URs?

[fallen jay]

I’m also very close to Shimanto

[fallen jay]

Correct that’s all I’ve got so far.

[silent hearth]

The I-404 wont be getting copies anytime soon 😛 but subs are usually pretty far down the list in priority

[viscid swift]

Hakuhou and Trafalgar I guess

[fallen jay]

I’ve avoided using ANY UR bulind before ask professionals here for advice

[eternal moth]

What do you think about holding out for Musashi?

[fallen jay]

Given it takes a month to get 1 UR bulin

[viscid swift]

debatable honestley

[silent hearth]

Yeah and we are going to be getting Unzen event soon, and Musashi will be going into the pity

[jolly condor]

is kron worth using?

[viscid swift]

Unzen doesn't change anything

[turbid marsh]

better to use portland at this point if not mlb

[jolly condor]

debatable

[viscid swift]

not unless she's MLB and I wouldn't use bullins on her

[jolly condor]

like the blue one??

[viscid swift]

yes

[jolly condor]

😭she can’t be that bad

[turbid marsh]

ye, retrofit to purple

[eternal moth]

She's not, but there are many URs more important to invest in

[viscid swift]

Portland is just very cheap and effective

[silent hearth]

Portland Retro is actually pretty decent.

Before you start Date a Live/Monster i meant for a new player ship.

[viscid swift]

she's like a Costco 1.50 hot dog

A bit bland with better options but hard to beat at the price.

[eternal moth]

Who's the highest-damage CB?

[viscid swift]

no clue

[jolly condor]

welp ig i’ll leave her alone i kinda just wanted her skin

[turbid marsh]

think its between kron and golden lieu

[viscid swift]

Gouden is a CA

I think it's Brest though actually

[turbid marsh]

oh sheet shes not cb my bad

[stable rapids]

where can I find the drop tables for this event stages?

[viscid swift]

datamine might have them

[stable rapids]

Part 2 range levels are kinda the same as a hard mode would have had if any.

[edgy saffron]

Thank you for being one of the only ones with a reply 😄 pulled my first UR the other day rip she useless for now , havent played this in a while so def good for the refresher

[hot oriole]

Aw dangit:(

[stark quiver]

all to get noob tubed by glorious and nakh in pvp 😭

[silent hearth]

They also said the Prototype 406mm SK C/34 was a bad choice to +13 but god damn if it is not effective as hell. Almost double the dmg of anyone i put it on VS the MK6+10.

[hot oriole]

:(((aight, back to the purple 406mm

[viscid swift]

when you can properly 4 cycle the Mk6 you'll see why

[silent hearth]

which probably wont happen anytime soon so why worry about that?

[viscid swift]

well as soon as you get some fire control radars

[silent hearth]

I have my research going 24/7 for the last 2 months and i still havnt gotten my first one. so... i guess we will see? but its not better atm, not by a long long shot.

[eternal moth]

First question: Which ships are you comparing, that's giving you double the damge?

[silent hearth]

Oumi and New Jersey, but im not getting into it right now. Its not better for the 2 BBs i use ATM, and im likely to get the FC either tonight or tomorrow so ill run it and see how it goes.

[eternal moth]

So if you give Oumi the SC/34 she doubles NJ's damage?

[silent hearth]

Almost

Though if NJ runs it shes on par if not slightly higher then my Oumi

[eternal moth]

Is NJ max limit broken? Because that really doesn't sound right

[silent hearth]

yes

skills need a little work still though, 10/9/4

Im sure she will probably pull out on top once i give her the FC and max her skills, but my Oumi loses about 40% of her dmg when i run a +11 MK6 on her (sans FC). ill see what happens when i run a FC and decide from there, but im glad i got the +13 because i deff wont be getting a second FC anytime soon.

[strange sphinx]

[eternal moth]

Are they the same level?

[silent hearth]

123 NJ vs 125 Oumi

ill run H Arbiter or META here in a minute and post the results on auto.

[forest palm]

I doubt it'll mean much

[silent hearth]

Its a video game, nothing means much but at least itll give perspective and show what i mean

[eternal moth]

NJ is giving up 4% damage due to level difference, but that still doesn't make up the difference. Both are fully enhanced?

[silent hearth]

yes fully enhanced

[viscid swift]

given that NJ's last skill is the one that buffs her reload stat among other things

[forest palm]

those builds are so different...

[silent hearth]

you guys realize i wasnt comparing the 2 when i first started talking about the 2 differnt guns right? hell i could swap the gear over and we will see how much of a difference it makes after.

[eternal moth]

Imma guess he has Ply buffing Oumi too.

[viscid swift]

Got bored and did some runs against hiryuu

[forest palm]

it's not just the main guns guns....Black + White have crit passives, the Twin 130 gives more FP, the Sword is giving hit which helps with damage

[silent hearth]

this is my boss fleet, though i might be switching it up soon since i have helena and diego at decent lvls now

[viscid swift]

reason Oumi does so much better with the Twin 406 skc is becase she can 5 cycle with that gun and the fire control radar

[forest palm]

[silent hearth]

i dont have a FC yet, i will soon (hopefully) and again im not comparing the 2 ships im comparing the 2 guns... ill switch gear on both on next test.

[viscid swift]

this is with 2 different sets of main guns

first is +10 Mk6s, 2nd is +10 Twin 406 skc

on both ships

[silent hearth]

+13 twin and +11 mk6 but yes? that was my point. the investment into the twin was well worth it because its massively more dmg then when i used the +11 on the same ship.

[viscid swift]

I would still argue it wasn't worth it

[eternal moth]

The biggest issue is going to be timing. if you were doing an actual meta fleet, using say Vanguard to buff everyone, you'd be way off

[viscid swift]

120 main gun plates is still about a month's worth of grinding for main gun/air craft plates

[silent hearth]

maybe it wasnt for you, but it was for me.

[viscid swift]

and to spend it on what is still only transitional equipment

[silent hearth]

ive been able to sync timing with Helena on 3/5 of the shots with the SK/C

[viscid swift]

trust me when I say you'll have plenty of things to +13 in due time

[silent hearth]

Maybe, but you could take that same perspective with nearly any part of this game. You dont need to spend gems on anything other then skins by that perspective.

[viscid swift]

what

[eternal moth]

No, you don't, except dock space

Dock space and skins are literally the only things you should be spending gems on

[silent hearth]

You could just retire ships you dont need right now and get them/grind them later. gems, aside from skins, are able to buy you CONVIENCE. thats it.

[eternal moth]

I have no idea what you're talking about

[viscid swift]

you're making no sense

[silent hearth]

you can disagree but its the truth. gems litterally are spent to make things easier. dock space, depot space, ect ect ect are all convience features until you get so far into the game that you HAVE to have them because you cant hold the years worth of stuff

[unique lantern]

Which one next? Got enough juice to get 10 bullins and another one coming soon, got every other ur mlb except guam, unzen and laffey 2 ( speaking of, when do they come back?)

[eternal moth]

What do gems have anything to do with gold plates?

[forest palm]

who the hell spends gems on Depot Spaces?

[viscid swift]

Unzen will probably rerun in 2 weeks

[unique lantern]

Nice, then i can hold the 400/400

[viscid swift]

that said Fritz Rumey would an easy choice if you have HVARs for her

[silent hearth]

my point is that anything you buy now with anything could be saved for later. cubes, plates and anything else. saving for later is great, until you start sacrificing for the now. i wanted a better gun and i got it until i get MK7s.

[viscid swift]

you know event and perma pities are seperate right

[forest palm]

I literally offload all my unused gear on unused ships, frees up a lot of depot space

[viscid swift]

you're missing the point though

Gold Plates are an extremely time gated thing
moreso than probably anything else in the game

[silent hearth]

your saying it was a waste to use gold plates, im saying it was worth it because its a big DPS increase VS the MK6. what am i missing?

[viscid swift]

supply will pretty much never outweigh demand

[unique lantern]

Is she not 2 years old yet? I thought the last missing urs for me would be the next ones for perma pity since ive almost played 2 full yrs now

[silent hearth]

no there not lmfao, UR bullins are among other things. Plates CAN be grinded.

[viscid swift]

it takes 2 years for events to rerun, and another 9 months to a year to be archived

[unique lantern]

Ah

Then ill grab a kronshadt or something i havent mlb yet

[viscid swift]

you can't really grind more gold plates, like sure you can grind more OpSi but you can only increas the amount you gain by so much

[silent hearth]

what? you litterally contridicted yourself.

[viscid swift]

UR Bullins yeah it's a pretty long time before you catch up but you will catch up in due time

[knotty jolt]

Grinding plates is like grinding weapon prints, ya can farm alot and get quite a few but you're gonna run out of oil (AP) sooner or later that it doesn't become cost effective to an extent.

[eternal moth]

I'd say so. I STILL don't have enough gold plates to +13 everything I want to.

[unique lantern]

We get like 3k more every month now too

[silent hearth]

look you guys are looking at it from a perspective of a vetren player several years or year past. if i want any movement im not holding onto resources for litterally half a year just to make a minor improvement when i use them.

[viscid swift]

also bearing in mind a good chunk of the gold plates you get will be random drops split accross 5 different types when in reality you'll be wanting main gun and aircraft plates which doesn't help

[wispy cosmos]

new player and having an inflated ego because theyre using unorthodox strats that the rest of the community has clearly missed, name a more iconic pair

[silent hearth]

considering that you can get AP boxes by the DOZENS in a C1 grind thats just flat out not true.

[rain bobcat]

if the difference is not 1 run worth then it's useless period

[knotty jolt]

I've wasted a lot of plates on gear that I'm never gonna upgrade further cause itd be a waste

[eternal moth]

That means you're either spending HOURS watching your computer and buying them from Akashi, or botting, which is against TOS

[rain bobcat]

life if this "massive improvement" didn't even get you from 3 run clears to 2 runs then i'd say it was horribly wrong to do it

[silent hearth]

Also consider this, how much gear/resources would i have lost if i had stuck to the 'right' way during these events? im not sure if id even be a high enough level to go into OPSI yet. I wouldnt be able to grind the events effectively. How much would you consider losing even half of those resources a month?

[viscid swift]

what

[rain bobcat]

none of what you mentioned needs gold plates

im not sure what you mean

[eternal moth]

Playing efficiently is losing out on half your income? What? I'm pretty sure it's possible to beat 15-4 without any +13 gear

[knotty jolt]

When I first started, I myself thought to myself fuck the event, the ships, the shop, etc just grind to a point where I can do it comfortably

And the event going on was things like iris of light and dark rerun and ashen simulacrum

[rain bobcat]

[silent hearth]

my point is that you guys moan and groan about me using gold plates on a less effective weapon, a weapon im telling you is a good bit stronger then the MK6. My point is that i would still be holding onto those plates for a 'good' weapon in your book.

[viscid swift]

yeah and?

[silent hearth]

stop bitching about me using my resources to play the game how i want?

[eternal moth]

Run that gun at +10, then run the exact same gun at +13. I'll bet it will be about a +20% increase in damage.

[silent hearth]

thats a good chunk of change on my highest dmg ship. thats worth it in my book when (at the time) Oumi was doing 80% of the fleet's dmg

[eternal moth]

The point is that using resources on the right gear saves you a lot more down the line, and you're ready to go all in once you actually get the good stuff

And if a single ship is doing 80% of your damage there are other issues you might need to look into.

[knotty jolt]

I'll say this cause I care, ya can do what you want but know in the future when you wanna do more you'll remember you could have done more back before

Literally don't become me trying to fix my gear after all the plates I've spent in all the wrong places

That final image hurts me the most

[viscid swift]

at least you can recover those plates

others not so much like all those Skypirates, yikes

[eternal moth]

Make the triple, get all your plates back

[silent hearth]

i dont see plates as that scarce. I have 84 main gun plates and ive gotten 3 main guns to +13 and ive been playing for less then 2 months. thats not including my other gear.

[knotty jolt]

I was young and stupid

[viscid swift]

yeah but did you also factor in the fact a good chunk of that was from one time sources among other things

[rain bobcat]

the amount of plus 11s is crazy lmao

[viscid swift]

and you'll get periods where you'll get multiple pieces of gear you want to +13 in one go

[knotty jolt]

I start things the moment I get the plates then forget to finish them

[silent hearth]

honestly purple plates are the bitch, id rather get 20 pieces of gear to +10 then 5 to +13 (different resources i know). cant get enough of those sons of bitches.

[rain bobcat]

the skypirates are most unfortunate

[viscid swift]

like, I'm not saying you're wrong but I think you're not seeing the full picture that can only see through experience, which many of us have the hard way which is warping your pserpective compared to ours

[knotty jolt]

Also that's not all my unfortunate equipment, just didn't wanna post to much

[silent hearth]

like events? mby some from packages and also lvling, but i wouldnt have gotten half those plates if i didnt squeeze out every drop of dmg i could at the time. its a lot easier now that ive got a decent established fleet and decent gear but id have missed out on a lot of plates and other things if i didnt act a bit more daring.

[viscid swift]

bearing in mind as well you will in time want to have different sets of gear for different armor types which only increasses demand from plates

[silent hearth]

again, maybe it wasn't the best choice, but id do it again because it did make a difference, especially at the time.

[viscid swift]

so your claim is that +13 406 is what got you those additional plates

[sleek spade]

Hey guys what's Mecklenburg good for?

[knotty jolt]

Damage

[silent hearth]

im saying theres a good chance i wouldnt have gotten a lot of the stuff i did get aside from plates without pushing my gear and making some less then optimal choices.

[ivory pawn]

Top anti-Heavy BB.

[sleek spade]

well yes, but any specific armor type? Or just "dmg"

[sleek spade]

nice ty!

[viscid swift]

I mean I don't know exactly what those decions were so I can't comment if they were actually "non optimal" or not

[knotty jolt]

I mean with the highest FP stat literally 60 higher then the next highest musashi must I say more?

[viscid swift]

but I'd wager most of them probably weren't and we'd have reccomended about the same

[rain bobcat]

she's good for the armor type the guns you use are good for but mostly heavy

[silent hearth]

i dont know either. but i doubt id be nearly as far along in progression right now if i wasnt a bit daring. 2 months and im nearly at the same level as players who have played a year +.

[weary edge]

in terms of coin and xp what campaign stage is T6 equal to?

[sleek spade]

Yes, because some girls are better towards specific things, like how Musashi is better at mobbing. But I got my answer alr so ty anyways

[rain bobcat]

mecklen is just a typical top tier BB with slightly skewed damage for heavy because of her skills

[sleek spade]

nice

[viscid swift]

uhhh

I dunno what you'd peg as a player who's been playing a year plus

[knotty jolt]

My decision were fueled by ignorance it was only when I started looking up guides etc could I do anything substantial.

[viscid swift]

but your progress is about average for someone who's active and has an idea of what they're doing, if maybe even a bit on the slow side

[mint flint]

There is inherently no way to speedrun the game because everything is timegated regardless of what you have

[viscid swift]

I mean people have done W15 speedruns in a week

[mint flint]

It just that inefficient decisions might slow your progress even further

[silent hearth]

alright. i just dont care anymore. moan, groan, bitch and complain. i made a choice to get a piece of gear out of ignorance ( i didnt know the MK6 at the time was considered 'good enough') but i knew when i buffed up the SK/C. And that gun is awesome. Disagree or w/e, but i dont care because when a 20% dmg boost on the ship thats doing 80%+ of my fleet's dmg is worth it, even if i had to sacrifice a bit of effort in the long term.

[mint flint]

That's not so much speedrunning the game as much as a single piece of content, where timegates are minimal given you already have the investment (ie you've already passed the timegates)

[viscid swift]

I don't care that you +13ed the gun

[silent hearth]

im done arguing with you. Its done, i dont regret it.

[viscid swift]

I'm more pointing out what went wrong in your line of reasoning and why you shouldn't make a habit of it

in regards to what is as we have said is a heavily time gated resource

[rain bobcat]

cheeky isn't arguing with what you did

[viscid swift]

and I'm not doing this to put you down

[rain bobcat]

its because ur earlier statement framed everyone as ignorant because apparently you did well with +13

[viscid swift]

I'm telling you because I made many such similar mistakes in the past I don't want to you to make the same if at all possible and avoid all the headaches that caused

[cobalt gate]

would doing T6 just to get a chance for pearl be better than doing T4 for cheap?

[knotty jolt]

I feel like if I showed my full account they could pick it apart like vultures of all the horrible mistakes I've made

[viscid swift]

are you going to buy the PR prints or not?

[cobalt gate]

i am

[rain bobcat]

t4 does not have oil cap

[cobalt gate]

but i can run t4 with 1:1 easily

[viscid swift]

because if you skip the prints you have plenty of surplus to buy a copy and then some

up to you if you think you can get lucky with an early drop

[rain bobcat]

let me just say t5 oil cap is a mere 20

[cobalt gate]

hmm guess i'll need to calculate break even point

[viscid swift]

T6 is 32

[rapid shard]

I definitely didnt waste gold plates on +13 the proto gold 406 mk6 and regret the hell out of it once I learned it was shit

[rain bobcat]

for t4 unless ur not using ssr I don't think ur that much behind 20

[cobalt gate]

yeah the only benefit of t6 is the drop

[rain bobcat]

so ur just wasting 4 potential exp soakers for like 2 extra oil per clear

[cobalt gate]

i mean t4 is only lvl 60, can just use low oil

[rain bobcat]

upto u if ur really low on oil

[eternal moth]

So is T5 the best for points?

[viscid swift]

we low cost because we wanna save oil for 12-1

[cobalt gate]

does t5 t6 give clear rewards?

[knotty jolt]

I've spent enough plates to +13 a set of 3 French quint torp mounts to fight light armor but I never use them

[viscid swift]

the economy on event maps is truly awful

[rain bobcat]

t5 is 20 30 140
t6 is 32 43 180

[rapid shard]

At least those have some niche use lol

[cobalt gate]

i mean t4 can low oil which means you get 20 points more per run

[rapid shard]

What is a good typical low cost fleet setup? Just cassin/downes and ranger no limitbreaks?

[cobalt gate]

yep

[eternal moth]

That, plus a strong crossfleet in slot 2

[viscid swift]

cross fleets will be mandatory

[rain bobcat]

t5 will save you about 10k oil

over t6

[rapid shard]

Shinano NJ Kron Shima Essex cross fleets enough? Only actual crosses i have

[rain bobcat]

if t5 is 5 mobs 1 boss then even more since I assumed it was 6 1 because I forgot

[cobalt gate]

which is musashi, ashai, new sub and i'm not sure what else for backline, front row probably shima, guam and uzen or kronk

[viscid swift]

Musashi, Alsace, Soyuz, Kronshtadt, Unzen, Shima

fuck Guam

[cobalt gate]

oh forgot soyuz

[rapid shard]

Ive just been using 1:1s that cost about 20 to clear. Figured it was about time to build a proper low cost team

[cobalt gate]

i hate how it takes teams for this event

[nocturne horizon]

How do I get the stuff that boosts my progress with the damage accumulation tasks

[rain bobcat]

thats essentially doing t5 with 6 peple

[cobalt gate]

if it cost 20 just do t5

[rain bobcat]

id advise going 15 and below if you actually want good profit

[eternal moth]

You don't. Those should be turned into protocores

[rapid shard]

Yeah I haven't started hard farming event just yet

[viscid swift]

it's XP not damage and you shouldn't be using them to speed up the grind anyway, they're more valuable as prototype cores

[nocturne horizon]

Ok thanks

[strange sphinx]

how good is the teach meoficer!?

[viscid swift]

worse than a fully optimized CV cat but better than your average

[strange sphinx]

hmmmmm ic, does teach have assist buff or she needs to be the leader?

[rain bobcat]

above average CV cat bascally

its missing a bit of avi which is the only real downside

[cobalt gate]

man the bb cat they gave out feels better vs max bb cat

also lower reload

[rain bobcat]

drake is like 40 or 50 FP norld flame

its quite massive, much better than any BB cat a casual will ever get unless they sack hard

[cobalt gate]

i think you need destiny fire crit and both fp to be better

like even this i think is only on par

the only benefit of teach is that its easier than to do max purple cat, although max purple cat even beats it

[slim hinge]

What's the level of SP stage for this event? 110?

[cobalt gate]

105

[slim hinge]

Thanks. What's the boss armor? I assume light since its Tempesta.

[cobalt gate]

cn wiki says heavy

[viscid swift]

it isn't

you're down 2 FP but you have 3% crit rate and the reload

[cobalt gate]

oh nice

i wish it was easy to get a good cv cat, have like the worst luck, although the worst is actually getting a cv cat

[silent hearth]

im not trying to rehash this argument, its done. but i did want to show the results of my test. Im eager to see what the FC will do for my NJ (and maxed skills) because the last test i realized she was half a second too slow to fire the next volley. she probably would have beaten Oumi if she had (which would have been awesome because so far NO ONE has come close).

The first picture is of the gear i showed you they had earlier. The second is with their gear completely switched (including augment). The third is with their gear back to normal BUT i put another +11 MK6 on Oumi. Its a massive drop though theres about a 20% variable from what i saw they could potentially do just because of crits and missing. META Yuudachi moves a lot too which threw off timing for the barrages, and i noticed that the SK/C actually had perfect timing on both to land their full volley when the boss was completely stopped so thats going to make a big difference in damage differences too.

Ive been dealing with legal paperwork and court shit all day and have made myself sick with stress. i have 0 patience and thats on me, but that seems to be the theme since i got layed off so maybe im just an asshole. Either way (and i know i say this alot) Sorry and thank you for the advice/feedback.

[wind hazel]

holy yappin

[plucky sky]

Is there any guide on skin interactions?

[wind hazel]

on youtube

[rapid shard]

Thats odd cause with just +10 purple mk6 on NJ and Oumi doing 150k or higher depending on Helena procs.

[wind hazel]

have you considered how many of them were missing

[rapid shard]

This was a unlucky run where Helena never procd and only got 3 volleys off on yudachi meta. All 3 have Mk6 at +10

[silent hearth]

First image with Oumi doing the 153 is with the +13 twin SK/C, the second image with NJ having the twin shes doing 111, third image they both have a +11 MK6

[rapid shard]

Dont have much miss. Running Aurora

[wind hazel]

he isnt running any eva debuffer, it will miss a lot

so dont take his few results as anything consistent

[rapid shard]

Yeah true but even before aurora my avg runs on yudachi was overall higher and I have next to no tech boosts.

[wind hazel]

also why didnt you flag your oumi lol

[silent hearth]

nope, there was about a 20% variance from what i could tell when i accidentally skipped it twice. but the majority was timing issues where they flat out didnt land near the boss. so something like the HArbiter might be more consistent but im exhausted/sick and dont feel like running Harbiter multiple times tonight.

[chrome jetty]

Hmmm....

[rapid shard]

Cause at that time that thought slide right off my smooth brained ass. Shes flagged now but that was a earlier test run

[viscid swift]

Yeah might I suggest not trying to engage in discussion/argument when you aren't in the right head space. Tends not to go well

[silent hearth]

either way there is a significant difference in damage when oumi has the MK6 VS the twin, this is for the META fight specifically though so mileage will vary...

[wind hazel]

1.55?

[silent hearth]

yeah i didnt want to get into it >.> i shouldnt have brought it up in the first place i guess >.<

[chrome jetty]

Should i just randomly pick?

[slow fox]

-# Apparently

[wind hazel]

sounds very tanky

[viscid swift]

And anyway, I said my piece afterwards but I wasn't trying to be a dick or put you down

[wind hazel]

pick whoever you like, you can get everyone later

[knotty jolt]

For the most part

[viscid swift]

Is this another round of mebot misinformation

[slow fox]

-# To make sure I'm not delusional:

-# 25% evaboost

-# 5s invulnerability
-# 35s of 15% dmgred
-# 37s of 10% dmgred
-# 35% heal

[chrome jetty]

Ok

[silent hearth]

honestly you are probably all spot on, it wasnt a good investment long term. it was a waste of plates on a piece of gear that will probably end up rusting. It definetly helped though when Oumi was doing 4-5X more damage then NJ or Izumo though!

[rapid shard]

I am curious tho. Is there anything I can do to improve this? With Helena proc on all volleys I can hit around 650-675k. Im assuming at this point its just fleet tech? They all geared following suchis light guide

[viscid swift]

Like you and you proved us wrong on that

Just goes to show how good Oumi is though and how powercrept NJ is

And why I don't advocate for her at all

[silent hearth]

yeah but i got blessed by RNJesus and pulled her twice. and she is leagues above Izumo so you work with what ya got

[wind hazel]

just better gear, better buffer. anchorage is kinda meh but if you dont have anything else like plymouth or z52 then it's fine

dont expect mk6 x3 to do anything good, we're talking about better gear as in mk2/mk7 +13

[rapid shard]

Running all gold rec pieces minus purp mk6 and I'll have agir finished leveling shortly to replace Anchorage. Mainly just making sure ive got things setup correctly and not making dumb setup mistakes lol

Which one is the mk2?

[silent hearth]

i thought Anchorage was a better tank then Agir?

[wind hazel]

lion's gun, triple 406 MK II

[silent hearth]

Well shit.

[rapid shard]

Bout half way on prints for that. Agir does way more dmg that Anchorage and tanks about the same from my understanding

[wind hazel]

agir tanks better, has armour break. anchorage can improve your vanguard survivability better

[silent hearth]

damn! I was told to use the PR ticket on Anchorage, wish i had used it on Agir then.

[viscid swift]

She is

Who said no

[rapid shard]

Agir is DR

[wind hazel]

wtf lies

[cobalt gate]

so anyone knows what happens if i collect milestone stuff while my cat is full?

[viscid swift]

Uhhhh

[silent hearth]

it just goes over and you cant open the cat trained boxes until you get below the limit

[wind hazel]

🫃🏼 ok it's VH agir...

[silent hearth]

huh?

[slow fox]

I'm no expert on this
-# But I would say they're par 😭

[silent hearth]

oh, well fair enough. i didnt realize she was a DR.

[rapid shard]

At least from me running both Agir lasts a little less but way more dmg while Anchorage helps keep everyone alive a little longer at cost of shit dmg from her

[wind hazel]

let's just say i gave misinfo

[slow fox]

I mean that's like 1%

[rapid shard]

So is that the actual only use for that VH aux lol

[wind hazel]

idk i never actually used it in my entire life

[slow fox]

I did some (N < 10) testing in W15 VH vs nonVH agir

-# I found nothing appreciable

[silent hearth]

I just asked this the other day and someone told me her fate sucks, but does her fate make any difference? it looks like it just causes a improved special barrage, but her damage already kinda sucks?

[viscid swift]

Yep

[wind hazel]

basically more luck lol

[viscid swift]

The additional luck is more beneficial which is really saying something

[slow fox]

-# That's 5% eHP guys it's CRAZY

[rapid shard]

Regardless she is the best easily accessible tank you can get for a while

[silent hearth]

Eww. Alright well shes already F4 i might as well finish her off.

[knotty jolt]

iirc don't PR ships literally have no luck stat till fate sim?

[viscid swift]

Oh yes mebot I'm just curious if you could test something for us

[slow fox]

Yes please

I haven't had an eHP query in years

[rain bobcat]

in cooking up one with my mates but itll be done probably by december so

we've literally only done anne and pearl rn

[viscid swift]

On vanguards if we were to sacrifice an eHP aux for ASW, which would result in the loss of the least eHP particularly on cruisers

And how much eHP is lost on average

[slow fox]

You're going to lose something like 10% eHP

[viscid swift]

Interested only on mob fights

[slow fox]

Depending on the cruiser, either option losses you roughly the same amount of eHP.

[soft raft]

[slow fox]

For a heavier cruiser, you'll prefer to drop the toolkit.

For a lighter cruiser (Leandermaxxing), you'll prefer to drop the repair kit

RUDDER

[soft raft]

isnt tha tthe same thing lol

[rain bobcat]

is that not the same thing

[slow fox]

The cutoff is somewhere in the middle of the light cruisers.

[knotty jolt]

[slow fox]

I fixed it

[rain bobcat]

well thats definitely an easy to spot edit

[silent hearth]

lol!

[viscid swift]

That's surprising

Though not entirely unexpected

What about Sandy specifically then?

[wet kettle]

hash file check failed?

[silent hearth]

ive just been dropping the rudder/paint on my vanguard for the META fight and keeping the toolkits

[wet kettle]

what do I do for hash file check failed?

[viscid swift]

Uhhhh

Did you try fixing and reparing assets?

[wet kettle]

what do you mean?

[viscid swift]

Check your wifi connection as well

[wet kettle]

It was updating, downloading the files then suddenly hash file check failed

wifi connection is good, other games work but not AL

[viscid swift]

Did you try restarting the game?

[wet kettle]

Like delete the game and download it again?

[viscid swift]

If you did try #tech-support

[wet kettle]

I already reset my phone

[viscid swift]

No just opening and closing it

[wet kettle]

done that too

[slow fox]

San Diego gets reduced to 86% of her eHP if you remove her toolkit.
San Diego gets reduced to 82% of her eHP if you remove her Rudder.

[rapid shard]

Might need to do just a reinstall then

[viscid swift]

Might need to do a Fresh install then though that's a last resort

[wet kettle]

if I delete the game I will load back normal right?

like I won't lose my account or anything

[viscid swift]

OK so our methodology has been correct

[viscid swift]

If you bound it you won't

[rapid shard]

Yeah AL isnt like FGO where its tied to device. You can log into your account anywhere long as its bound through email Twitter etc

[wet kettle]

is there a way to check if you bound it

[viscid swift]

I reccomend Yostar bind to be safe

Oh right you can't login

[wet kettle]

yah I can't, so I don't know if I bound mine or not

I don't wanna lose a 149 level account

[rapid shard]

If you have a second device or PC to run a emulator download and attempt to log in on there throu the different methods

[viscid swift]

Yeah I'd try tech support for now

[wet kettle]

I guess I'll wait for tech support then

thanks

but if I bound it, it's safe to delete and just reinstall then

[slow fox]

Pog gers

[rapid shard]

Only way I can think of to check if its bound before uninstall/reinstall

[rain bobcat]

this is one of the reasons why its good to bind to yostar

or atleast save ur uid

[flint sonnet]

Are any of the ships with the new augments any good?

[silent hearth]

I had thought i had bound mine to my yostar when i booted Azur Lane upto bluestacks on my computer, little did i know that the yostar website =/= the account bind setting. ended up creating a clusterfk and i had to create a twitter/X account just to get the damn thing bound so i could log into my account on bluestacks.

[rapid shard]

Just FYI would highly recommend swapping to MuMu. I was using bluestacks but mumu12 runs 100x smoother

[wet kettle]

if it's not bound but I have my uid am I safe?

[silent hearth]

you at least will have some way to find your account, even if its with game support's help.

dont think you will be able to log in without the game support's help though, if you didnt bind it in the settings. @rapid shard really? i might try it then. i used bluestacks way back when Nikke first came out so it was just my default go-to.

[rapid shard]

With ALs recent update bluestacks is getting more and more bugs. Mumu12 runs smoother. I was using bluestacks for years but haven't touched it once in last couple months

[silent hearth]

https://www.mumuplayer.com/ ?

[wet kettle]

I'm safe, I emailed yostar an image of my account with the ID 5 years ago

[north gorge]

I'm running fine on BlueStacks but you do need to be using a version that has 64 bit

[wet kettle]

So I can delete the game and reinstall and hope it works now right

[silent hearth]

nice! thank god email lasts half an eternity

[rapid shard]

Yeah thats correct link

[silent hearth]

honestly my experience with bluestacks has been mixed. Half the time i dont have any problems whatsoever. then all of a sudden ill get smacked with bug after bug. The game DOES run slower then on my phone though.

[rapid shard]

Honestly unless your 100% sure you have your account bound, id contact customer support before making any decisions just to be safe

[silent hearth]

do you have any suggestions on what i should run the settings on? its set to android 12, 4 cores and 4gb by default. i think i run 8gb on bluestacks.

[rapid shard]

Might want to ask in tech support but I run om default no issues

[wet kettle]

I decided to bite the bullet and delete it

how big is azur lane the app

damn the entire game is like 20+GB

[scarlet cosmos]

is it worth it to spend resources on the gacha for this event?

[forest palm]

none of the ships have any value past collection and waifu stuff

[scarlet cosmos]

okay ty!

[cobalt gate]

ships are basically for collection, sub ones is good if you have trouble clearing sub weekly

[hot oriole]

Which is more priority?

+13 gears or UR gears

[cobalt gate]

newbie its +13 gold gear

[hot oriole]

Ok

Hm, so when my commander's level is 93

Most of my T4 Plates are coming from OPSI port shop

[cobalt gate]

don't forget guild

[hot oriole]

Oh yeah

Hm

[cobalt gate]

https://azurlaneecgc.com/images/equip_misc/%2B13_Priority.jpeg

[hot oriole]

...not enough...

[vocal niche]

do they ever change loading screens?

[violet grail]

So T5 is the stage to farm this event right? seems way more point/oil efficient than T6 especially if I don't want to gamble on the pearl drop.

[cerulean star]

Am I just stupid or bad or what? I’m trying to do the level 100 Tactical Training Torpedo in under a minute and I’m just nowhere close, here is what I’m using, all high level UR ships with good to great torps and TRP gear +10, playing on Manual, not sure exactly where my issue is

[molten nacelle]

Is lyme obtainable through combat and which level is it

[onyx flame]

she's gacha only

[rain bobcat]

ur traf is completely useless

[onyx flame]

for tactical training the type ie aviation/shelling/torp means they take majority of their dmg from that type

tbf if you clear one you dont have to bother even clearing the others cause its all the same rewards

[cerulean star]

Why? She’s a DD with Torps

Is it just because she’s missing some stars and levels?

[rain bobcat]

yes

just about every single ship is completely obsolete without full stars

[molten nacelle]

Shitttttt I cant get her through gacha

[rain bobcat]

ur gonna need way more than unzen

probably need minimum ayanami as well

[little chasm]

can i farm t5 for the gun as level 59, or am i too underpowered

[onyx flame]

depends enemies are lvl 80~ if your one fleet is fairly strong its doable

[little chasm]

do you know the average power level i should have?

[onyx flame]

fleet power? that stat doesnt matter, just need to have good ship that are mlb with decent gear and ofc preferable higher level than the enemy so you can abuse level advantage

[little chasm]

i see

[fathom apex]

silly question, where are the hardmode stages in the event?

[onyx flame]

there isnt any for this event

[cerulean star]

Thanks for the tip off, replaced Trafalgar with a Gallant (and also tossed another Purple TRP aux on Mogador) and cleared it

[weak elk]

should i buy laffy or belfast augment ?

[onyx flame]

preferably neither
https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/augment-modules

[woven star]

Yeah. There's no one big happy solution for low cost t6. Z52+ranger 0lb can handle whole map with x-fleet (I think without x-fleet can too) - 115 oil. Scylla+ranger 0lb can survive right to boss. Ranger died at second boss phase with and without x-fleet. In theory 108 oil. You can set some low cost boss fleet excluding x-fleet. There's some other fleet combination which I tried but they too specific to tell about them. Anyway smth like that.

Btw z52 - 125 lvl. Scylla- 120

[weak elk]

who is good with san diego

[remote yarrow]

I think a better question is what is San Diego good for, since you don't really make a fleet around her

In that case, she's mainly an Anti Air Carry post retro and pretty decent damage with her augment

[weak elk]

what teams are recomended to fight operation siren

[rain vine]

mob, bb, cv
4th fleet can be crossfleet or another cv or bb fleet, depending on who you have

[weak elk]

bruh

anyway.... any normal map i should farm for equipment? i feel like im lacking in the gear departmant

like for av

[rain vine]

open purple and gold tech boxes for gear, you shouldnt be farming maps for gear

[inland shoal]

No, farming normal maps for equips really isn't worth it

The equips are mostly kinda bad and it takes 10 years to get one of them

[weak elk]

rip my luck is so low i keep getting the painted ones

plus i need 2 two gold boiler things

[spare harbor]

gold boiler🌾

[weak elk]

gold vs purple version how high the difference in performance

[split gazelle]

gold boiler?

[weak elk]

uh the blub shaped metal thing that raises avi for planes user

[split gazelle]

this thing?

[weak elk]

yes

steam catapult lol

[split gazelle]

then yes it's worth using over purple one. idk how much the difference though

[rain bobcat]

its like 50 avi difference

[wind hazel]

it's 30 avi difference at +10

gold cata +13 is 118, so 48 avi vs +10 purple

[autumn osprey]

How to get the 2 new meowofficers? I tried training a bunch of SR boxes but got none

[rain bobcat]

it's in the milestones

and shop

[autumn osprey]

Ah okay, I didn't notice that, thanks

[dawn wedge]

who should i remove for lyme?

[turbid basin]

Is it just me or are the coins from T6 awful?

[rain bobcat]

always has been

[turbid basin]

oh so this is classic for Tempesta events? this is my first one

[rain bobcat]

I would avoid using 6 SSRs early because

1. you can't mlb/max star all of them
2. ANYTHING and EVERYTHING that's not mlb/max star is completely useless

[warm latch]

dont use lyme, tempesta ships arent really that good because they have no aa

[dawn wedge]

ok i switch unicorn in for healing but i want to play lyme i got no play who should i switch in for lyme 😭

[rain bobcat]

https://azurlaneecgc.com/newbie_tips give this a read, and for this, you can replace javelin for lyme

[dawn wedge]

ty

[warm latch]

use unicorn, portland, helena and starter dd (jav/z23/laffey)
for your other main fleet ships idk what other bbs you have, but enty is fine too, you want to focus your sr bulins on enty for now

you want to use portland and starter dd for beginner missions iirc

[wind hazel]

you dont anymore, but they are good and cheap

[warm latch]

is that not a thing anymore?

[rain bobcat]

you don't need to use starter dd

[wind hazel]

it's only retrofit any ship now

[warm latch]

oh

[dawn wedge]

ty

[warm latch]

and portland or uni works for that, so any other vanguard is fine then

altho you dont want to use too many srs early on because of lack of bulins

mlb blue is gonna be better than 0lb sr or ur

shimas basically just a decoration for you for now, you dont want to waste ur bulins on her

[wet vale]

is the next permanent UR Yorktown?

[dawn wedge]

aight so im gonna wait for a better ur

[spare harbor]

do i buy dr prints or gun designs in proto shop

[warm latch]

musashi

[wet vale]

oomf

[warm latch]

yea, dont spend ur bulins on perma urs, prioritise them for new urs

[wet vale]

Thanks, I accidentally reached the pity cap. I have no idea you can't go past 400. Guess I'll just grab copies

[spark patio]

Pearl good?

[rain bobcat]

im not leveling her right now so I can't really attest to that

anne is kind of decent

[bold surge]

Is there no hard mode this event?

[weak elk]

no

just 6 stages sp and ex

[rain bobcat]

have people not played events that aren't D types?

im pretty sure none of the T and SP events have ever had a hardmode unless I missed something

[spark patio]

she is main or vanguard or sub?

[rain bobcat]

main

[boreal wagon]

there have been events that had HT maps which were hard modes but yeah generally they dont

[rain bobcat]

HT is different, they have HT1 through 6 iirc right?

with HT 1-3 being normal

[boreal wagon]

they had T1 through T6 with HT1 through HT6

[rain bobcat]

CVs are useless that's about it

[rain bobcat]

oh right now I remember

[spark patio]

3BBs?

[rain bobcat]

actually I haven't tried if she erased rockets

what she does is she erases everything on the screen 1s after you launch an airstrike

ok yeah CVs are completely useless

[woven star]

Ok. Seems it's lowest oil fleet for t6 which I got. Even holds 2 last hard mob packs with one under out of ammo. 94 oil per run.

[tulip tinsel]

i think its the other one

i think only pearl is dropped from event

[robust nymph]

do i buy these?

[woven star]

it's only for tempesta ships gears

and iirc two left was in last event. don't think they have some practical value unless you using tempesta ships

[robust nymph]

so this event has no decent gear to buy?

[gilded carbon]

The right one, the Cannon, is important If you wanna use Tempesta-ships in your Main-Fleet

[robust nymph]

i heard the ships are very bad so i got them just for collection

[robust onyx]

Yeah the characters are primary for collection

[robust nymph]

also side question but since i took a 2 weeks break i ran out of decent food and im stuck with this and never been able to recover, is it normal to not have higher quality food at some point?

[ivory pawn]

Unless you’re buying Curry, yes.

[robust onyx]

Oil can restock blue food

[woven star]

anyway you can buy dr8 prints so still useable some items in shop

[crude jetty]

So...skip this and Unzen for Dec UR?

[robust onyx]

Skip this Unzen and the collab

[crude jetty]

Collab huh

[ivory pawn]

Depends on your cubes. This event’s extremely skippable.

Unzen fingers crossed you get her with tickets.

[robust nymph]

are these worth going for or is the price for each too high to bother

[real folio]

thats all im getting and the cats lol

[crude jetty]

My cube stock depleted after hakuhou lmao, and my unzen is not mlb

[ivory pawn]

Rainbow definitely. Gold eh, but I usually try to after getting everything else I want.

[crude jetty]

Is Unzen still good these days

[robust onyx]

You already have Unzen

[ivory pawn]

You already have Unzen? Easiest banner skip of your life.

[real folio]

any news on the collab banner?

[ivory pawn]

Nada.

[robust onyx]

Most likely November

[crude jetty]

I mean, is Unzen still good to MLB and use

[robust onyx]

If previous years are to go by

[crude jetty]

I feel like by the time I MLB my UR backlog they will be powercrept lmao

[robust onyx]

Unzen is not the top priority for mlb

[real folio]

alright, how about unzen? is she any good? or as a newb can i skip?

[ivory pawn]

Still one of the top DPS vanguards, but DPS vanguards are kinda…

[rain bobcat]

yes

[ivory pawn]

Depends on cubes and if you’re going to try for collab (assuming it comes soon after). We’ll get free pulls at least, maybe you just get lucky.

[crude jetty]

I think maybe I should save my bullins for UR Laffey lmao

[rain bobcat]

skippable as hell

[crude jetty]

Thats in Jan 2026 right

[real folio]

lol alright hahah

ill save up for the collab then , thats why i actually started

[ivory pawn]

In theory, yes.

[rain bobcat]

for vaguards you want utility because main ships will easily outshine them in most scenarios

you pull for stuff like unzen when you're rich

[crude jetty]

So like Guam, Laff2, Eldridge etc?

[robust onyx]

Eldridge uses different materials

[rain bobcat]

rerun will have 50 free pulls, its feasable to get her eitherway

[real folio]

my vanguard is all free stuff to be fair, laffey retro, portland and helena

[rain bobcat]

I would skip unzen if you are planning to pull for date a live collab

[crude jetty]

The Research ships are "free" too and they are really good .. depending on which series ofc

[real folio]

i will, i hope the collab units are good

[robust onyx]

Hope Kurumi is good atleast

[rain bobcat]

collabs usually have 1-2 "good" units