gameplay-help

[unreal star]

i can try to make one

[silent hearth]

If you get too close to the enemies side you tend to 'drift' backwards, is that what you meant?

[unreal star]

more like when i try to move my vanguard up or down it takes forever and they tend to pull in the opposite direction. it feels like i’m piloting a real ship against strong waves if that makes sense.

like in the current EX stage i’m trying to position in between the laser beams but my ships drift up and down. maybe i’m not using the control wheel correctly for holding position?

[sweet delta]

your lead vanguard drifts, or your other two ships drift?

[unreal star]

usually the other 2

lead one tends to be the one i control the most

[sweet delta]

that's just how the game works, even youtubers suffer from it

[unreal star]

hmmm k

[vital cloak]

will i fully unlock Hestia if i claim this?

[silent hearth]

hmm...Well i know that depending on your ships you can have a vanguard thats slower or faster and moves depending on the speed stat. it can feel more sluggish if you had a vanguard of all CA for instance VS a full vanguard of DDs. you control the lead vanguard ship and the other 2 follow like a snake-tail. there are effects in the game that can cause you to loose your backline ships (the stun from EX Hakuhou for instance)

yes

[unreal star]

i’ll try playing on the ipad too. the tiny phone screen doesn’t help.

[tender lotus]

Which ships could decrease/clear burn?

[silent hearth]

Shimanto has a burn clear and reduces damage from burns. but a lot of special burns (like the one from Yuudachi META fight) cant be cleared (i dont think any ship can clear them) But you can use the blue fire extinguisher to reduce burn time even on special burns.

[tender lotus]

I thought it only applies to regular burn

Anyway thx

[flat oak]

Ddgs have reduced burn dmg I think

[keen zealot]

Can we only obtain a single T3 ordnance in opsci every months?

If thats the case wouldn't we need like a year or two to full gear all the relevant stuff?

[forest palm]

Not a lot of things that can be crafted from it are all that great, also there's conversion

[vital cloak]

is it for me to get the event weapon, right? i remembered that someone told me to buy the event weapon or always to buy the event weapon

[jolly plover]

Yep. Really* good weapon.

[vital cloak]

ok then i'll buy it, if i didn't remembered to talk about that before, it was mostly that i would buy the ship building ticket

[forest palm]

For reference you aren't crafting Triple 243, or Spearfish. One copy of the Tenrai, and Twin 457 can be purchased in the Proto shop. So, you'll want maybe 2 Twin 457, and maybe 3 Tenrai, but even that is debatable because it comes down to what ships you use, and the content you are tackling

[vital cloak]

is optional to buy a ship copy or tech if i already have that ship?

[jolly plover]

8k for a ship is pretty expensive. We usually let is as a last resort if you couldn't get a copy in the banner.

[vital cloak]

i see, then i'll buy the ticket

[storm olive]

Or from farming the map

[jolly plover]

^that too

[vital cloak]

the normal stage or the event stage? cause idk what ship can be farmed in the event stage

[rain vine]

the event shop ship is always the drop from b3/d3
since you want to generally farming d3 for event points, you save 8k in case you dont get the drop

[jolly plover]

Event Stage B3/D3 can give the same girl that is on the event store.

[vital cloak]

wait, so... i didn't needed to gamble in the event banner? (but i think those stage will be hard for me)

i mean, for painlevé

[jolly plover]

You'd have to gamble in the stage so-----

[rain vine]

theres no guarantee, and its a 0.5% chance on the banner
no reason to keep throwing cubes when you have a guarantee in shop

[keen zealot]

ok yeah I just check that back. Guess its not as bad as I imagine. All the other important craft just use the normal rainbow UR

[vital cloak]

i see

[jolly plover]

But yeah, if you already got everyone else except the one on event shop (Painleve, in this case) you can just stop pulling in the banner. Better to save the cubes than the event tokens anyways.

[vital cloak]

wait, does UR choice change when there's a event running?

[forest palm]

Do keep in mind that the Triple 234, and Spearfish aren't necessarily bad, just not worth the opportunity cost. Specifically with the Spearfish as it's equal to the Wyvern in strength, but late game(World 14 and World 15) favor the Wyvern also it is much easier to justify crafting Wyverns.

[rain vine]

do you mean the UR pity?

[vital cloak]

the characters

[jolly plover]

Pity gives the UR in the banner.

[limpid moon]

cv fleet worth building with no implac or amagi cv or do i just skip until they return

[rain vine]

they dont change
ships can get added as their events are made permanent, but the selections arent removed

[forest palm]

Nano + HKHO is fairly strong, also August exists so if you're looking for anti Heavy/Med then yes it's still worth the investment

[weary edge]

what does the secret ticket do?? all it says is “unlocks a secret”

[forest palm]

it's AL's ASMR stuff

[plain saffron]

here

[vital cloak]

so you mean these doesnt change?

[weary edge]

oh ok thx

[jolly plover]

Check the secret tab. Some cool stuff in there

[rain vine]

yes

[weary edge]

bro what the fuck is this shit

[limpid moon]

wanted to ask who is nano

[rain vine]

shinano

[jolly plover]

ASMR + Animation. XD

[vital cloak]

i see, then i guess im gonna choose shinano

[plain saffron]

manjuu propaganda to make you addicted to ASMR then buy the real deal in DLSite

[weary edge]

😭😭😭i thought id be gettin some cool stuff like a free ship or gear or sum 💔💔

[limpid moon]

is essex retro , york2 better for anti light

[weary edge]

btw i got shinano from the handbook as much as it hurt not getting nj and i got some letter saying “ayo thx for the pick” uhh is that used for anything or does it just sit in my depot

[plain saffron]

just sit in depot

[jolly plover]

It just sits there. Forever.

[weary edge]

😭

[jolly plover]

My Atago one from 2020 is still strong in there.

[weary edge]

i lowk wanted nj so bad since i was born and raised there but i was told id get more use out of shinano if any use at all

[limpid moon]

what ur gear craft should i go for first as i only just got into opsi this month

at least for gold im going for flapjacks but idk for ur

[rain vine]

/gearlab

[odd root]

https://www.azurlaneecgc.com/images/equip_misc/Gear_Lab_Priority.jpeg

[wind hazel]

start with a wyvern

[limpid moon]

anything else after?

[keen zealot]

I have another question regarding the gear stuff.

So I have a +13 Ryuusei Kai and +13 Flapjack. Next goal should be the La-9 whenever I get it (probably half a year because I do reaearch 8 instead of 7)? Or do I +13 Wyvern when I gets it (I can probably gets wyvern this month if I am lucky). I also accidentally chose research 4 in the handbook thing so I don't have any prototype shop wp yet.

I don't have any better BB main gun than the transitional purples so I should just hoard gold plates until I gets 406 mk7 + twin 457. Or I can +13 the cheaper 406 50mm (my two main BB is Oumi and NJ, but EC tierlist rate the purples as better than this one)

Anti air and surface torp is more straight forward, but does my gold auxiliary plates just useless because they only ever recommend +13 the rainbow FCT and I can't get it now rerun or else.

[limpid moon]

the only ur gear obtainable from lab i have rn is tenrai (prints)

[rain bobcat]

the +13 flapjack is already raising an issue

[forest palm]

there's no value in a +13 Wyvern, outside of extreme Min/Max'ing for stuff like PvP

[rain bobcat]

/plus13

[odd root]

https://www.azurlaneecgc.com/images/equip_misc/%2B13_Priority.jpeg

[keen zealot]

well I am ok with a set back for a month I guess. I haven't check the +13 table back then

[forest palm]

also as far as BB guns go you can make do with the Triple 406 Mk6, Proto Triple 380 Mle 1935, and Triple 406 Mle 1938

[sweet delta]

You can't go top to bottom on ectl for judging how good gear is

The 406/50 is very much worth +13 and not worse than purple

[keen zealot]

ye I basically based off my plan on this, but the gold guns is rated weirdly on some other guide, and my auxiliary gold plates just sitting around.

Tbh I just felt the gold plates is not that expensive for gold equipments because I basically gets like 100+ for each everymonths farming from my playtime

[wind hazel]

1-2 ju87, then come back and ask again when you have both wyvern and ju87

[limpid moon]

thanks

[keen zealot]

I would +13 it and put it on NJ then.

Do I just let the gold auxiliary sits around until they add the rainbow FTC into shop?

[rain bobcat]

depending on how much you have and what type of boss fleet you like

[sweet delta]

I wouldn't hold my breath for the afct

[rain bobcat]

i would +13 3 white shell if you have a strong BB fleet
or +13 4 steam catas for your 2 good CVs minus the slower if you have a very good CV boss fleet

both options leave committing fully incase they either drop afct or some shiny new CV aux

[limpid moon]

is ju better than sakura tb? cos if its like only slightly better feel like skipping the ju is better

[rain bobcat]

but I wouldn't put high hopes on it

[keen zealot]

ok tks guys

[sweet delta]

The important difference is the reload time. I use them all equally. Some more equal than others.

[plain saffron]

is there any time that we get ship that comes preLB'ed?

[rain bobcat]

oh me and stig have the same counts of +13 gold TBs

[plain saffron]

no bulin doesn't count, they don't have LB at all

[rain bobcat]

I just have 1 more JU

[rain bobcat]

pretty sure the answer is no

[split gazelle]

bullins

[clear harbor]

Would any of these DDs benefit from a 76mm AA gun over a twin 100mm (Type 98) AA?

[rain bobcat]

what?

[wind hazel]

ayanami

[rain bobcat]

wait is it called AA gun in game as well?

I only remember the 76 part

[wind hazel]

76 blue is called AA yeah

[rain bobcat]

also to be clear no ship wants twin100mm gold

[stark quiver]

[rain bobcat]

the kai is good, the gold is just about worse than the best purple option on any ship

[low lintel]

Could someone help me assemble a fleet? I don't really understand how to make fleets

[rain bobcat]

make a thread, post entire dock

[low lintel]

Fleet help

[wispy cosmos]

other way round, most dds have good enough aoas that it's either similar or better than a twin 120

[slow fox]

bless

[clear harbor]

Jeez, then I don't really understand the gear guide. Would the Twin 120mm Main Gun be better than the 100mm then?

I answered my own question looking at a different guide.

[plain saffron]

did anyone notice if IJN I25 was summoned behind or more forward compared to other subs?

[wind hazel]

the answer is it doesn't matter, go with which you have enhanced higher. if not, pick the cheaper one which is purple

[clear harbor]

But Ayanami still wants the 76? The idea of a barrage guns is new to me. Well not the idea, but actually putting it into practice.

[rain bobcat]

yes

[wind hazel]

yes ayanami wants the 76.

[clear harbor]

Many thanks! I appreciate everyone's advice.

[rigid onyx]

hwah jah is 1.5x on fighter effeciencies not 1.6x

i get close enough after that

idt the skill 3 procs in support fleet

[slow fox]

a u right

[wispy cosmos]

shouldnt be

[plain saffron]

apparently she did get summoned behind , pilica tested it
i25 and i13

as for why, my current guess is because they have plane launch at summon, that's the only common thing for both i see so far. in coding they both just coded to spawn behind by 10 unit

i 404 launch 10s after

[hard mesa]

does i-400 only launch plane when summoned, resurface , and retreating?

[slow fox]

how do we get exact

[wispy cosmos]

ah i see now

[rigid onyx]

i used flapjacks for the avi stat so its minor differences with the ordering being the same i think

if you dimensionalize it in terms of lusty

[slow fox]

Flapjack also has a different aerial DPS vs Purple FW

[rigid onyx]

i didnt do the plane dpstrafe because i couldnt find a satisfying method that gave a decent ranking of the aa planes so my sheet is probably more flawed than yours

[frozen solstice]

Can someone tell me how I could defeat her?

[slow fox]

My plane calc is pretty baseline in terms of "gun fires this much"

Riceist has a calc that's more detailed

[plain saffron]

are anything related to subs oxygern scale with LB/level?

[rain vine]

https://suchiguma.github.io/challengemode/october

[frozen solstice]

i.e. without good equipment bye

[rigid onyx]

yeah ive looked into his calcs a lot to try to get a more proper support dps sheet and they just dont match up with what people tested for the planes

[plain saffron]

<@&472236072743600148>

[rigid onyx]

although support fleet plane testing has like 0 definitive results due to statisical error

specifically though people say gold fw is best in practice but the sheets who's priors has flapjacks above purple fw (which is what people say is better) also have flapjacks above gold fw (which is what people say isn't better)

and i think i'd need on the order of like 2 months of oil to test w15 support

which i am not doing

[fierce condor]

I dont understand what this does and i couldnt find anything that explains it

[wind hazel]

#gameplay-help message

tl;dr those are missions to help you unlock more skin slots for shipyard ships

[fierce condor]

Thanks for that now ik its a useless thing for a f2p like me

[wind hazel]

it is yes

[topaz smelt]

That sheet was shit, even the cn guy who did through analysis on AA said it was shit

[rigid onyx]

oh is it literally just people parroting

[topaz smelt]

when is it not

[slow fox]

Alright time to homebrew MebotInterceptAA

[topaz smelt]

you do that while i take my vacation on an island

[slow fox]

I'm only using intercept success as a proxy for eHP damage distributions, lol

So I'm running some N = 100 W15 testing right now teehee

[plain saffron]

is it really a vacation

[robust nymph]

is it normal that after every D3 clear theres a cutscene to skip? very annoying when auto-afk farming

[dusk maple]

story cut scenes are limited in numbers, they'll stop appearing soon enough, just keep redoing D3

[robust nymph]

i’ve cleared the last stage at least 5 times already

alright

[foggy phoenix]

Is Taihou in Island Planner already? How do you get her?

[boreal wagon]

she technically is and she appears to currently be unobtainable
(also #1422463299877867540)

[noble cypress]

I just got this unit Sovetskaya Belorussiya is she good?

[wind hazel]

no

[robust nymph]

shes not the worst tho right

[wind hazel]

let's just say she's below average

[peak fable]

Would Mainz be an upgrade over Portland? I know that a lot of people will tell me to get a better tank, but Ima be honest, I literally only have Roon and Portland as the frontline, so I need an upgrade for Portland

[rain bobcat]

ryu lion

[peak fable]

is she even a tank?

[rain bobcat]

tankier than portland and has modern gold standard damage

much better than mainz

[split gazelle]

the first realistic upgrade over portland would be anchorage, but since you'll have 2 fleets portland still has a use until agir. portland is good enough till ch12 where you will start to focus on getting better ships.

[peak fable]

that's kinda where I am and I have full on focus on building out my Iron Blood fleet tech, so Anchorage is far from obtainable for me, unfortunately

[split gazelle]

i've been farming ch12 for like 4+ months, I don't really have a reason myself to push beyond it besides some gems. I've just been focusing on opsi teams and better ships rather than pushing campaign.

[fiery ruin]

Anybody have any idea what in the christ this question mark means? Looked all over and couldn't find anything of interest

[iron tulip]

talk to this rock at the back of the logging area

[late flame]

#1422463299877867540 message

[azure coyote]

Any of the ships in this event worth it?

[late flame]

not really

[azure coyote]

Alright

[rapid summit]

Is this gun good in any way?

[rain bobcat]

yes

2nd best CL main gun

[rapid summit]

Does that include unicorn retrofit since she’s cvl or just get the gun for regensburg?

[wind hazel]

unicorn doesn't use cl gun

[rapid summit]

Okk ty

[spark patio]

this aa gun good?

[hoary relic]

nope

u dont have twin 113mm or 40mm bofors?

[spark patio]

i had but i just want to know if it good or not

[zenith heron]

Just a placeholder, for anything other than World 13 or 15

[spark patio]

can't use that thinh in W13?

[zenith heron]

for a placeholder that is, definitely not worth to use to your AA Carry though

[wheat ore]

random question, are lucky bags generally recommended? or should you just outright buy whatever skin you want?

[inner delta]

buying skin is more targetted, lucky bag should be cheaper depend on what you get

[late flame]

i'd say it depends on your budget and whether you wanna gamble

[soft raft]

W15 fleet refinement for 15-4/15-3

[wheat ore]

hmm it's my first time spending on this game so i do have the double gems i think, probably don't want to spend too much tho

[late flame]

if you are just going after* a specific skin, then skip lucky bag

[spring mesa]

so i had taken a break in between so im behind on la-9s and plymouth guns
im halfway to my second macklenburg gun, how many of la-9s and plymouth guns should i aim for after that?

[soft raft]

2-3 is generally the reccomended amount for relevant UR gear for most people
anything higher than that is mostly luxury

[spring mesa]

and which one should i prioritise more between the two? beyond the recommended

[soft raft]

Prob Plygun
That would see more use than LA-9 because rocket fighters are essentially turbolocked to OpSi due to their lack of interception capability

[spring mesa]

thanks 🫡

[dawn spade]

should you keep or retire rare and elite ships? right now i keep most of them, or the ones i think im gonna use at some point. but my dock is full really fast

[rain bobcat]

keep rld and hit bb and cv tech if you want. also how big of a dock are we talking

[violet grail]

Rare and elites can be retired for medals.

A few things to check first would be your collection to see if you need any of them for gems or other rewards from there. And then sort by the faction for the fleet tech you intend to work on to maybe lock one of each of those. Also lock any that cant be farmed id say. But any that drop in campaign you can safely retire.

And ones that you already have mlv and retro you can also retire extra copies.

[dawn spade]

170. i could expand it more than i have (twice) but it feels like im just pissing away gems for 10 more storage space

[warm latch]

dock space is one of the main things you spend gems on if youre f2p

[violet grail]

After you have 3 dorm slots and second floor, dock space is the only thing f2p players use gems on. Thats their purpose.

[dawn spade]

that sounds reasonable, thanks. how many tech points do you get from MLBing a ship from that faction?

[warm latch]

its like 4 dorm slots, dorm second floor then everything else goes to dock space, you dont get to spend gems on anything else if youre f2p

[soft raft]

that varies off of rarity and hulltype
but german ships give twice the usual amount

Also wdym by "That faction" what

[dawn spade]

should i get the second floor? it said that it didnt do anything except increases decoration

[warm latch]

it gives more slots for ships to recover morale quicker when youre farming

[dawn spade]

by faction i meant like, iron blood or whatever its called lol

[soft raft]

That text is poorly worded
2nd floor is huge mainly because it gives you the same amount of slots as the first floor so with 3 slots on both floors, you can slot a entire fleet in

[rain bobcat]

/gems

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Gem Spending 101

Gems in Azur Lane are fairly rare from an F2P perspective. However, the gacha in Azur lane does not require gems and their main usage is expansion of facilities like dorm, academy, docks and depot, as well as buying resources, resource packs, premium items (rings and name change), and skins.

As an F2P, you can get up to 4700 guaranteed gems (3750 for 3* clearing all 15 main campaign worlds, 800 for completing Bands collection and 150 for 8 days login campaign), not counting random gems from commissions or occasional bonuses from events or other sources.

Considering limited availability of gems for F2P players, even if spent exclusively on QoL upgrades, it is impossible to upgrade everything.

This is the recommended way to spend gems as an F2P:

• 3rd Dorm slot (300 gems)
• Dorm 2nd floor (500 gems)
• Dock space (remaining gems)

The main purpose of the dorm is for faster morale regen while grinding. Using ships with 0 morale will receive a 50% exp penalty and lose affinity.

The 2nd floor of the dorm will have the same number of slots as the 1st floor. While it lacks passive exp gain, it has faster morale regen. 3 dorm slots with the 2nd floor gives you a total of 6 slots, which is enough for your whole mob fleet.

Dock space is the biggest constraint for players. While this can help casual players collect all their waifus, there is also practical use in collecting ships - for later levelling to get their fleet tech on reaching lvl 120. These are important for players as they provide crucial additional stats that help players to tackle the hardest content (W14/15, H.Arbiters, CM).

Alternatively, players may consider getting the 3rd Academy slot for faster skill training or more dorm slots instead of just dock space (not recommended).

While players may opt to buy skins/rings with the F2P gems, this will come at the cost of QoL. It is recommended to only buy those with real money 💳.

[violet grail]

Second floor gives same amount of slots as first, no xp given but it does give morale, more than first floor in fact. And morale is main thing u want from dorm

[dawn spade]

i see. but morale has never really been an issue so far. but i guess its good to have a second floor nontheless

can you actually go to the second floor? or is it an off camera place? lol

[soft raft]

you can

[violet grail]

Rarer ships give more points, heavy armour ships give more points than light in general. Probably better to just check the fleet tech guide tho, will give better info than I can.

[soft raft]

also you will run into morale issues if you're grinding alot
esp when half of the fleet has the dorm morale recovery boost and the other half doesnt

even more so if you're using the 2x plans which double everything including the negatives

[dawn spade]

i used to have a lot of morale issues but never since i got the 6th training slot

[violet grail]

https://azurlaneecgc.com/fleet_technology/

[violet grail]

That is wild that you got 4th 5th and 6th slot before second floor lol. 2nd floor is instant plus 6 slots for you then.

[dawn spade]

it took AGES to afford those dorm expansions LOL

[violet grail]

Yeah u coulda had same amount of slots for only 500 gems instead

[dawn spade]

and tbf i didnt even know you could expand until after i had bought a bunch of furniture so.. my bad

[dawn spade]

oh for fucks sake. wish i had known that

[violet grail]

No point worrying about past mistakes, still worth getting second floor from here on out tho, you can easily farm a ton with 2 fleets now lol. Or have farming fleet on second floor and first floor for low level ships to get xp.

[soft raft]

Is it just me or is Essex Retro's Crossfleet (or at least that's what I assume the long line of blue bullets are) slightly off center from the middle

[short star]

what is the best research focus for designs? i will need time to get enough points to research higher than series 1

[robust nymph]

is the event shop gear item good?

[rain vine]

yes

[robust nymph]

people usually recommend the highest which would be 8

in d3 it cant drop the event shop legendary ship?

[plain saffron]

it can, only on boss and elite

is it boss only for ship drops? i forgot

[rain vine]

boss

[robust nymph]

i thought that it would show here

[rain vine]

if you click on the ship girl icon, it has the list, though its not very helpful since it only shows the ships that you have already obtained
but the first ship in that list is the event shop ship

[robust nymph]

ah gotcha ty

[hushed sorrel]

this should be the currently dropable ship, but even if i clicked at the wrong event it stays b3,d3 and sp

[robust nymph]

yeah i see thank you, ill see if it drops, this event is really short surprisingly

[hushed sorrel]

all rerun only last for a week, most event are 2 weeks long

[robust nymph]

oh interesting, good to know

[hushed sorrel]

and you dont need to drop the ship. the dropable ship is always the one buyable with eventpoints

[robust nymph]

yeye i was just trying to save the 8k currency for other stuff

[hushed sorrel]

have fun, it stills last for a few more days

[spark patio]

which one is best for DD?

[forest palm]

the Twin 120 or the Twin 128

[rain bobcat]

120

[forest palm]

Twin 100 can also work

[spark patio]

purple 120mm is best?

those gold are niche or bad? should i scrap them?

[rain bobcat]

100mm is just 120 but slightly worse

127 is ok ish

[forest palm]

127 and 100 are fine to invest in you can just turn them into better guns later on

[dapper token]

Any of the event ship worth using

[forest palm]

this batch is mostly for tech

[hushed sorrel]

events keep to powercreep little by little, so 2 years old ships ... they are playable but will not make someones heart beat faster if he/she tries to make even stronger teams

[forest palm]

it's not even power creep, it's the average power level of SSR being stuck in 2019 design ideology

[hushed sorrel]

the ur will surely replace the ssr one day completly

[forest palm]

they've been kind of slowly raising the SSR BBs ceiling, where some SSR BB are not far off from Fredrich

[zenith heron]

Oumi is an example

[rain bobcat]

ssrs are getting better

its just that from 2 years ago they were holding back on ssr strength

[forest palm]

no, the average is still pretty crap, it's a minority of SSRs that are good

[rain bobcat]

they deliberately made ssrs just enough to not be unusable but far below URs in the past

atleast now theres some good ones here and there

[forest palm]

what drags the average down is vanguards, and CVs kind of...again BBs are where you'll notice the most improvement tbh

[fresh tangle]

Black shell or keep the firing control?

[pulsar egret]

How can I get to 1500 torpedo?

[forest palm]

AFCT should be on another BB, and it depends on your other BBs if they use AFCT/HSFCR then White + HSFCR

[rain bobcat]

by using a cl with torpedo instead of helena

[zenith heron]

need higher torp stat, so use a DD or a ship with higher Torp stat or ship that has one

[fresh tangle]

Ok let me move over to my thread then

[violet grail]

Just click on each vanguard slot, sort by torp stat change to descending and see whats the best u have.

[rain bobcat]

afct is wasted on VG since all her value is from applying debuffs

[forest palm]

just said that

[fresh tangle]

Showed by other BB’s in my thread

https://discord.com/channels/456397991847395339/1426607606369091714

[warped acorn]

got a rainbow aa gun now, should i give it to lion or sandy

[rain bobcat]

swap around based on what ur doing

[red sapphire]

Should I +12 the stuff because I don't have the +13 mats or should I wait until I have them to +13 from +10?

[wind hazel]

keep them 10

[forest palm]

either stay at +10 or go all the way to +13 there is no in between

[red sapphire]

Okay thanks

[formal robin]

When a cost limit is enabled, what happens if you set a fleet to all enemies? For example in the current event, would it take the 35 oil cost (escort fleet) for all enemies, including the boss?

[wind hazel]

mob fight will use mob oil cap, boss fight with boss oil cap

[plain saffron]

the limit is based on enemy, not the fleet

[formal robin]

Makes sense

[dapper token]

Do shinano fleet require musashi and other ijn main ship?

[wind hazel]

ideally she has 2 other IJN friends to play with

[woven star]

technically could. if your fleet oil lower cap and has exactly amount 35 or lower. question about oil cap

[stark quiver]

Is old tempesta also rerunning

[dapper token]

Does it have to be in main fleet?

[woven star]

actually not

but usually yes

[wind hazel]

no

[woven star]

she got buff for yourself with 3 or more ships but she buffs other cv-cvl

[tidal dust]

where do you get the upgrade parts? not the gear parts, but the ones that upgrade purples past 10 and golds to 13

[soft raft]

Operation Siren

[woven star]

opsi or guild shop (some parts)

[jaunty pecan]

do i get hestia event points for doing D3 event

[knotty jolt]

Yes event maps count

[tidal dust]

Is it possible to set the order in which the torps and things go off? Like if i have 2 carriers and want unicorn’s to activate first when i hit the plane button?

[topaz smelt]

its always reload order
preloads go, flag,top,bot

[clear harbor]

I think I saw a tier list for unique augements that also gave a small explanation of how good the ship was with the augment. Does anyone know what I'm talking about? I've been holdling off on crafting auguments because I'm not sure which ones are worth while. I know they're good, but if build one for a ship I won't use much in the future, that could be wasted resources.

[sweet delta]

/equip bottom

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Equipment Guides and Tier Lists

🔹 Equipment picture guide by samheart564
🔹 Full details on equipment statistics
🔹 List of equipment safe to scrap by thebombzen
🔹 Augment modules guide

use /tierlist for list of ships TLs and guides
use /guide for list of other gameplay guides and FAQs

[clear harbor]

Thanks! This is it!

[topaz smelt]

try not to get baited by shit ships

youre better off using a tierlist instead since it gives you comparison points

[scarlet cosmos]

what should i prioritize spending in the proto store?

[topaz smelt]

i dont understand the plygun recc

[scarlet cosmos]

ty!

[dawn spade]

what is "research focus" in the research academy? it says 6/150. am i gonna obtain the shipgirl chosen there once i get to 150?

[sweet delta]

that's Catchup, not research focus

[eternal moth]

No, it means you get up to 150 blueprints for that ship

[dawn spade]

oh

[vale spindle]

https://azurlaneecgc.com/research/

[soft raft]

If only it were that easy lmfao

[topaz smelt]

technically getting the girl is faster than the catchup

[stoic forge]

Which AA should i mass produce

[sweet delta]

what AA do you have, and mass produce from where?

[stoic forge]

Gear lab prob

[weary gust]

I wouldn't build any from gear lab except the UR AA. You get decent enough AA otherwise from research blueprint drops and boxes.

[stoic forge]

Then which one

[soft raft]

The American one > The French one

[weary gust]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_76mm_RF_Mk_37_Gun_Mount#Type_0-0

[timber crow]

Hi guys, i got the 400 pity UR should i choose a nee ship or one i already got for MLb?

[soft raft]

Shinano (Until she is MLB) > Vanguard > Everyone else

[timber crow]

Got it

[topaz smelt]

at this point is prob save for sashi instead of vanny

[timber crow]

I already got van on 5*

i will go with shinano then

[sweet delta]

it may be better to finish Vanguard depending on the status of all of your rainbows

[weary gust]

Vanguard at 5* is still useless. Ships need to be MLB to be considered as useable options.

[topaz smelt]

issue with vanny now is shes quickly dropped by the powercreep

[timber crow]

Stats of my urs

[weary gust]

All of them are benchers without being mlb.

Probably finish Hakuhou and Shinano, in that order, then finish vanguard.

[timber crow]

Is hakuhou that good? I didnt like her abilities that much compared to shinano

[sweet delta]

you can max Hakuhou now and also pick another Vanguard

[weary gust]

Hakuhou is far better than Shinano.

[timber crow]

True

[topaz smelt]

prob better to just do nano + haku so you have a cv fleet

vanny does fuck all on her own

[weary gust]

Shinano is so old it's really impressive she's even relevant in any way. She's drifted downward to the baseline for top-tier CVs, there are quite a few better than her, but she still gets some usage in part due to AmagiCV keeping her relevant.

[topaz smelt]

nanos still competitive for heavy

[vapid valve]

Does anyone know how to get prototype cores

[sweet delta]

https://azurlaneecgc.com/research/#protocore_income

[chilly sonnet]

Is this ship any good?

[knotty jolt]

Yesn't, she's been power crept but considering your point in the game she'll be good enough, though Shinano woulda been the better option if you just picked your first UR

[viscid swift]

I wouldn't consider a 0 limit break UR good enough

[knotty jolt]

[peak fable]

okay this is an insanely stupid question, but how do I use the OpSi Meta Showdown Data to find my own Yuudachi META runs? I click the button for META Showdown but it keeps throwing me into an ongoing Dossier Analysis and idk how to get out of that 😭

[viscid swift]

you need to get anaylsis points first from drops in OpSi

[peak fable]

I got them, I hit the 200 cap

I just dont know how to get to the screen where I find a Yuudachi run, thats my prblem

[viscid swift]

go to your own fight and tap the box with Yuudachi's outline in it

[stark quiver]

i wouldnt say limit breaking nj is good enough either

[chilly sonnet]

I got her via summon, will consider her as my pickup option then

[viscid swift]

why were you pulling on heavy/special

[chrome frigate]

question with the update does that mean some of the tempesta ships are now craftable?
since they are now in shop and in war archives are they also in the ship pool for crafting?

[viscid swift]

what

[fiery ruin]

Turns out it was John and obrien for a treasure map piece. Danke

[fiery ruin]

Thank you

[chilly sonnet]

[knotty jolt]

If you mean the permanent gacha pools yes, they're in there

[chrome frigate]

yes sorry that is what i meant ty

[chilly sonnet]

yeah idk, I thought I could last long while waiting but I guess this game isn't for me

Thank you and good night

[topaz smelt]

you cant have any active meta fight, so you need to kill the dossier fight first

[peak fable]

yeah, just did, thanks though, the 1,5 Mill health wasn't as scary as I thought

[robust nymph]

whats the quickest way in game to check what faction is a ship from?

[viscid swift]

check their prefix

[weary edge]

i know kazagumo is useful for me atm, but is she useful in the later stages of the game

[turbid marsh]

She’s more useful late than early

[topaz smelt]

mostly a opsi buffer option

[weary edge]

KMS is iron blood, USS eagle union, HMS royal navy, SN is northern parliament , IJN is sakura empire,

[weary edge]

oh okay ty

[grave mantle]

KMS/SMS - Iron Blood
MNF - Vichya Dominion
FFNF - Iris Libre

[sweet delta]

How do I check the prefix when the light gray text on gray rectangle on gray/brown ship skin background is unreadable?

[weary edge]

would you say she's decent in w13 or any campaign w

and i hear she's most useful when paired with shinano but i dont rly have the resources nor a reason to invest in shinano

[topaz smelt]

13 is fine assuming you can fill AA
14 is questionable but can be forced
15 is prob a liability

[turbid marsh]

anytime you use 2 or more CV team that is not eagle or soy

so basically ijn cv team XD

[grave mantle]

It is actually Shinano needs her for her own buff. Kazagumo herself buffs any CV, not only IJN ones

[weary edge]

oh i see

[grave mantle]

Because Shinano needs 2 more IJN ships in the fleet for her buff

[weary edge]

her skill doesnt specify factions when buffing cvs tho

oh u meant for shinano

so i can really just use kazagumo for any cv fleet

[grave mantle]

Yes

[weary edge]

huge

[turbid marsh]

well any other cvl/cv dont really... need her. its a nice to have, but i can't think of any practicality for kazagumo outside of heavyboss/ijn fleet

[grave mantle]

How good is Fubuki (collab) right now? I've seen her quite high on one of the tier lists but she is around for several years

[sweet delta]

it is just that against DD/CL/CA, Sirius is better
against DD/CL, Aurora is better
against anything with a BB in the fleet, Trafalgar is better

do you mean Fubuki (collab) (BB) or Fubuki (collab) (DD)

[grave mantle]

There are two collab Fubuki?! And I mean BB one

[sweet delta]

Fubuki (collab) (BB) is in the top few gold BBs against heavy bosses in particular

[rain bobcat]

one from holo one from senran kagura

[robust nymph]

oh gotcha ty even tho i find it weird the prefix isnt particularly helpful at reminding you what it is lol

[sweet delta]

if you want to know the exact faction name, then you can go ship page -> ARCHIVE -> DETAILS -> Faction, wait for the text to scroll to the right

[grave mantle]

Who did think that dive bombers on Hololive Fubuki are a good idea?

[forest palm]

it's not a bad thing though

she just doesn't have a good kit, nor the scaling for it to work

[soft raft]

Proto-Halford

[forest palm]

still better than Halford imo

[slow fox]

Do we have 3 aviation vanguards yet?

[grave mantle]

Also, if you play the game long enough, you will remember ships faction just by the name of the ship. Because factions have different naming system

[viscid swift]

ah yes because Enterprise and Enterprise are very different names

[sweet delta]

Quick, what faction is Fubuki?

[slow fox]

-# Is Ting An strong

mutsuki

Time to planemax

[forest palm]

we forget that Houston II and Chikuma are a thing

[gilded carbon]

in all honesty, not all of these are historical anyway

[forest palm]

anyway the devs are allergic to making hybrids with lasting impact

[grave mantle]

Why Houston II is in this list?

I dont see planes in her skills or equipment...

[forest palm]

probably thinking of New Orleans

[grave mantle]

She has a plane only on her art

[forest palm]

[pallid wind]

Is there a point of doing hardmode or can I leave it?

[knotty jolt]

Hardmode provides more

[grave mantle]

I think you should leave it. D3 enemies have 105 lvl, they will probably kill you easily

[knotty jolt]

also during the rerun normal mode has a 5x first clear bonus while hardmode has a 3x so it's just more currency for the shop aswell as it has oil caps

[pallid wind]

😭

[knotty jolt]

With proper gearing understanding ya could likely do it tbh

Unicorn for the most part even non retrofit will be what will likely pull ya through

[slow fox]

-# I LOVE CHIUKUM A

[knotty jolt]

Ya can always try it out abit, see if you're dying to quickly and decide after

[grave mantle]

She doesn't heal main fleet without retro

[viscid swift]

if they're underleveled I highly doubt they have the gear to make up for that deficit

[pallid wind]

i see but for the event i got the painleve from the banner what should i spent the golden tickets on

[pallid wind]

im ngl i have all grey gear 😭

[knotty jolt]

yeah goodluck with that then lol

[knotty jolt]

get the gun

[grave mantle]

Then you don't try. Come back to hard mode events when you will have at least one lvl 100 fleet with purple gear or higher

[pallid wind]

the teiple 3.52 thingy?

[soft raft]

just do your single daily pull with those tickets then splurge the rest at the end of the event

none of the banner ships are really worth gambling for when we have Unzen rerun and the Dec UR looming around the corner

[knotty jolt]

yes it is second best gun in the game, and the best HE gun iirc

[soft raft]

*For CL guns
and even then, 2nd best CL gun is more like 3-5 guns all tied together as sidegrades to eachother

[pallid wind]

i got the gun so then i just save the golden tickets for next event?

[soft raft]

you cant do that

they will go poof along with the rerun

[pallid wind]

rip so like what else can i buy if i shouldnt gamble with the blue cards

[knotty jolt]

i mean they're free pulls

[sweet delta]

You should gamble

[soft raft]

bruh I just told you to just do your daily pull with those tickets

then spam them all on the last day of the event

[sweet delta]

Daily 3 pulls

[knotty jolt]

pulls on event banners without a UR give double points to the UR pity in permanent pool

so it's just extra for ya

[grave mantle]

Painleve is also good for you right now

[pallid wind]

no i got that so just wait until last day to get as many blue cards

[knotty jolt]

no just buy them now

[eternal fiber]

doing 3 event builds per day gives event currency, although I'm sure someone's brought that up already

[robust nymph]

sometimes i wonder if its worth more to just spam 12-4 and ignore certain events

[soft raft]

Depends on how much you value the rewards on the event pt milestone thing

[knotty jolt]

Considering your point, it wouldn't be the worst use of event currency to buy the tech boxes

[pallid wind]

why are there 4 diff names for the tech boxes

[soft raft]

Factions...

[eternal fiber]

different factions

[knotty jolt]

one for the 4 main factions

Each tech box has different gear pools on the faction

[pallid wind]

wait so for ryu what gear box shoudl i get?

[knotty jolt]

Ryu best in slot gun is a purple one i think ya can just craft if ya got the prints for

[soft raft]

that's not how it works
any ship of any faction can use any gear, even if it doesnt belong to the same faction (but some ships do want faction specific gear for their skills on occasion)

Overall the Iron blood and Eagle Union ones are what we reccomend, mainy for Quadruple mag torps in the case of the former and the Helldiver, Hellcat, and 40mm AA in the case of the latter

[knotty jolt]

Eagle unions got quad bofors, and f6f hellcats which are good AA guns and fighters aswell as the standard loot of steam catapults, repair kits, and EVA aux

[grave mantle]

If you bought a 152 gun then you already got a very good gun for her

[knotty jolt]

Check your depo for this gun for ryu

[sweet delta]

Idk if it drops from iron blood boxes too

[knotty jolt]

oof

[grave mantle]

Ryu needs fast guns?

[knotty jolt]

she has a skill that shoots extra bullets whenever her maingun fires like Z52

[grave mantle]

I thought she would probably need a typical CL gun

[sweet delta]

Rainbow > single 150 > others

[grave mantle]

Interesting, though I still would not use her because I already have a lot of good vanguards

-# Because she would need to compete with Sandy for slot

[pallid wind]

Any changes I should to my fleet to get to chapter 9 cause people keep saying oil cap is important but idk what that is

[knotty jolt]

oil cap limits how much oil a fleet uses per battle

Say a fleet uses 100 oil but cap is 50, that means battles only take 50 oil but you get the full benefit of using an expensive fleet

[sweet delta]

keep your fleet 1

[grave mantle]

So it is either you are using a full fleet or using a small fleet (usually consisting of one main and one vanguard ship), though the latter is usually for mid-late game

[sweet delta]

with your next gold bulins, get Hestia to 5 stars, then get Ryu to 6 stars. Then decide if you want to 6 star Hestia or start a better ship

[pallid wind]

ty but is me trying to swap prinz for portland a bad idea?

[knotty jolt]

Portland has cheaper to limit break compared to the SR prinz also portland has a retrofit which is very helpful to her survivability

[pallid wind]

retrofit are like the big leagues for shipgirls?

[knotty jolt]

They just provide extra stats etc

And for portland it provides a very nice bonus to her evasion increasing her effective HP alot

[pallid wind]

is it campagain based or do i have to do smthing else

[knotty jolt]

Retrofit prints are aquired from hard mode campaign maps

[tidal dust]

There is a retrofit section above enhance for some of the shipgirls…basically upgrades them from purple to gold when you finish

[wheat ore]

which UR should i invest in?

[pallid wind]

i see tysm to every1 that responded to my slow ah 🙏

[knotty jolt]

Shinano

[sweet delta]

How many UR bulins can you get?

[wheat ore]

2 more, i can just buy them from the proto shop

[knotty jolt]

What have you been doing tho that you don't have her but maxed lion and zwei?

[wheat ore]

i just pulled from the events, never had a shinano event

[sweet delta]

fr how much perma pity are you at

max Trafalgar now

[wheat ore]

373 pity now

[wheat ore]

okay

or should i wait to get shinano? or the next UR event and max them instead?

[soft raft]

UR events and reruns dont count towards perma pity

[wheat ore]

i mean i'm kinda close to it anyway so i'll probably get it soon

[soft raft]

Also whether or not they would be higher prio to limit break over Shinao is a nebulous question when we have literally zero clue what they would be like

[sweet delta]

Trafalgar now to mega buff Lion would be more useful than Shinano plus Hakuhou plus 4 UR bulins in debt

[wheat ore]

wait does trafalgar go on my boss fleet? cuz lion is on my boss fleet

[knotty jolt]

Yes

[wheat ore]

i have portalnd that i want to get rid of on my boss fleet

[timid vortex]

I don't have third fleet. Why can't I use two?

[knotty jolt]

You have these powerhouses but still using portland

[sweet delta]

make a third fleet thehn

[knotty jolt]

Toss whatever in

[wheat ore]

lmfao i don't have many good frontlines i htink

[slow fox]

Don't flame the BOAT

[flat oak]

should i focus on story nodes or do gold chests and green mission tabs too

[stark quiver]

Do all
But story takes priority

[topaz smelt]

Always story

[glad light]

so are the danmachi girls actually good, alright or is only Ryu good

[grave mantle]

Hestia surprisingly for a repair ship has actual repair though she is not the best secondary healer, but she will do her job if you would need both AA and secondary healer

[gilded carbon]

how do i get that look for my OpSi? ^^' I have what amounts to a tactical card in blue on blue

[grave mantle]

That's the map when choosing region, not actual maps

[glad light]

what about Ryu, she good or just alright?

[grave mantle]

Idk myself, but I've heard that she is good, with her barrages (she will need fast shooting gun to proc)

[knotty jolt]

Ryu is strong, I've seen people compare her to thing like Bayard as just slightly weaker to her.

[viscid swift]

more than a tad weaker, she's harbin levels

[weary edge]

who’s projected to be next perma ur?

[robust nymph]

so how long is it supposed to take to farm all prints for a certain season?

[weary edge]

like 3-4 months if ur cubing research i think

[robust nymph]

cause i’ve been doing strictly prints researches non stop and i’m no where close to being done after 2 months

i’m not using cubes though

[weary edge]

cube research gives u multiple prints for multiple ships, im not sure how long it’s take doing other kinds

[viscid swift]

2.5 to 5 months

if you're not cubing 4 months would be about the minimum

[soft raft]

Musashi

[viscid swift]

practically closer to 5 especially if youre not done with all the other seasons

[robust nymph]

cause i assume at some point one or two are gonna be maxed and so when their research print comes up i wont be able to do that

this is where im at and it feels depressing

[robust nymph]

why do the other seasons matter?

[sweet delta]

if you didn't finish other seasons, there's a chance for their D face research to appear

[robust nymph]

ah makes sense ive been getting 6 and 8 prints here and there

[weary edge]

do we know when / predict when. bc im like 300/400 and idk if i should refrain from exchanging for shinano and just wait for musashi

[soft raft]

We dont know when

[viscid swift]

Admittedly I haven't done D focus since what PR6

but that seems a tad slow

[robust nymph]

i also have only 40 UR gear prints despite i spent a good 2 months doing only Q and G idk..

[viscid swift]

that's about average

[robust nymph]

oh okay

also i noticed that if i refresh the researches with the daily chance, if no ship print research was there, after the refresh its still not gonna be there, but idk if its a thing

it happened way too many times for it to be random, if its only q/g/h after refresh its still q/g/h most the times

[scarlet cosmos]

is there a certain guide to choosing ships to oathe , or just pick ships you like + strong ones?

[soft raft]

If you're a F2P, just oath your waifus
Tatical oathing is a myth for anyone that is not a heavy 💳 swiper

[scarlet cosmos]

sounds good, thank you!

what is bismarck zwei good for?

[rain bobcat]

killing things

[scarlet cosmos]

im curious how she compars to musashi

[rain bobcat]

preferred for bossing due to high consistency and peak damage, worse at mobbing because her barrage is worse than musashi

[scarlet cosmos]

thank you!

i have guam, shimanto and laffey II for my vanguard in 15-3. Should I change anyone?

I was thinking on switching laffey II for scylla, but would need some suggestions

my backline is musashi, unicorn + aquila

[rain bobcat]

no need to change

[scarlet cosmos]

im just having trouble surviving

[rain bobcat]

unless you have eldridge

[scarlet cosmos]

by the time i get to the third battle, everyone is low and i have no ammunition for the entire fight

i'll change for eldridge then

[rain bobcat]

send ur frontline gear (what you have equipped on them)

[rain bobcat]

toolkit on laffey instead of rudder, torpedo bulge on guam instead of toolkit

can you not craft 76mm rainbow aa gun?

[scarlet cosmos]

i dont think i can

wait where is that

[rain bobcat]

USS anti air gun gear lab

[scarlet cosmos]

i thought you were referring to the twin 57mm l60 bofors

im missing out on UR anti air gun designs

[rain bobcat]

that ones not worth crafting especially when the USS one is better and has the exact same material req

[scarlet cosmos]

also, rudder is washing machine right?

[scarlet cosmos]

Ah okay, I just saw a lot of youtubers use it and thought it was good. Thank you!

and is torpedo bulge VH armor plating?

[rain bobcat]

its good but its worth is already outdated infomation

no, purple gear torpedo bulge

[zenith heron]

this one is purple rarity and red colored

[scarlet cosmos]

Ohh I see it

[rain bobcat]

what support CVs do you have

[scarlet cosmos]

i have independence, indomie, and implacable

[peak fable]

do you guys level the skills of fleet tech ships you level to 120 to like... lvl 4 or 5 or do you keep them at lvl 1?

[rain bobcat]

do you have z52?

[scarlet cosmos]

i do not :( i missed out on that event

[knotty jolt]

I personally just level everything

[zenith heron]

its usually recommended to do that in order to grind said ship better, but not doing so is alright if their stats syill carry their usefulness

unless you know, low on Skill Books

[scarlet cosmos]

i think another real issue is that i dont use subs either, i just started leveling them up and that would take some time. i was just tryign to see if i could beat 15-3 without them

[stark quiver]

dont need subsfor anything

[rain bobcat]

this should be fine

[zenith heron]

you can beat it without subs,their just there for additional dmg ||and possibly Crossfleet like i404||

[rain bobcat]

its not a win or lose or anything without subs but it can definitely help mitigating dmg taken by maybe 5% hp depends how good the subs' damage are

[scarlet cosmos]

oh wow, i never thought to use shimanto with those torps

[zenith heron]

the mag torp is still fine, its probably there for early use of torps or one of her skills. mentioned

[rain bobcat]

wait I picked the wrong torp, its supposed to be this

[zenith heron]

or if you don't have any Gold Quad maga, which is rare for peeps tackling w15

[scarlet cosmos]

what is a good replacement for the rainboe gun on eldridge?

[zenith heron]

the Tashkent Gun you have here is enough

[rain bobcat]

any of these

or if you have mogador thenher gun is the best

[scarlet cosmos]

hmm i dont think i have any of these, where could i get it?

same for eagle union repair team

[viscid swift]

you should be able to craft them, if not open some Iron Blood tech boxes

[scarlet cosmos]

oh nvm i found this

[rain bobcat]

1. you can probably craft it else open boxes
2. just use any >500hp aux

[jolly plover]

Repair Team is a Colection unlock.

[viscid swift]

also what

[jolly plover]

Need to have FLB Yorktown, Enterprise and Hornet.

[scarlet cosmos]

yup! thank you! it was on my emden 😭

[rain bobcat]

[scarlet cosmos]

is it just a skill issue at that point 😭

[rain bobcat]

it doesn't work on ships that aren't american btw

[viscid swift]

no I don't get what you mean

[scarlet cosmos]

i just read the description yeah 😅

[viscid swift]

you died 3 battles in or what

[zenith heron]

I think that is what he meant

[scarlet cosmos]

yeah.. i would get very low in 3-4 battles

[jolly plover]

Oh, we talking W15 here. That's out of my scope.

[rain bobcat]

are you fighting CV and escort nodes as a priority?

though I don't see how you would die on BB node either unless you were out of ammo

[viscid swift]

What was your main fleet running, were you killing the super CV fleet

[zenith heron]

||I am gonna lurk here since I too am struggling with 15-3||

[scarlet cosmos]

yeah i was killing the super CV fleet, there's a DD battle before hand which I went for first because it was blocking the path to the super cv fleet

[viscid swift]

You can just move it

[soft raft]

^

[zenith heron]

curious, does it have limited moves or its unlimited?

[rain bobcat]

if ur running this I don't really see how you would completely die within 4 battles

[scarlet cosmos]

wait what

how did you move it

[viscid swift]

2

[scarlet cosmos]

oh that is totally not my set up

[viscid swift]

I doubt that

[rain bobcat]

first column last icon

[scarlet cosmos]

ill adjust to that photo and come back later

[viscid swift]

Why is Musashi running that gun

[rain bobcat]

just something to note btw

theres like 3 guns that musashi should use and nothing else

[scarlet cosmos]

i picked whatever fastest to get my barrage off, was there another option for me?

[soft raft]

The IJN Twin 410

[zenith heron]

do IJN guns next time on Musashi, especially the twin 410

[rain bobcat]

+izumo gun if bossing

[soft raft]

Musashi has a part of her skill that requires a Sakura Empire main gun
Whcih that current gun is not a Sakura Empire gun

[scarlet cosmos]

oh my gosh i did not know i could do this

[scarlet cosmos]

oh i didnt know

[sweet delta]

someone skipped the tutorial

[zenith heron]

||you're probably missing 50% of her dmg, but there's that||

[rain bobcat]

musashi's barrage has massively decreased damage potential without using a japanese gun

[viscid swift]

Damage is like cut in half

[scarlet cosmos]

what's that fairey plane on unicorn and how do i get it?

[zenith heron]

||Unless its fhe the Meck Gun for some reason with testing ||

[rain bobcat]

gear lab

[scarlet cosmos]

and if i only have one wyvern, should that go on aqula or unicorn?

[rain bobcat]

british

[viscid swift]

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide

Might wanna give that a read

Flapjacks for better AA

[zenith heron]

either is good, personally putting it on Aquila but it depends

[scarlet cosmos]

alright! i got everything i need

is that russian torpedo bomber i have equipped in place of wyvern okay?

[viscid swift]

no

[scarlet cosmos]

oh no

[viscid swift]

get Breguetes instead

[scarlet cosmos]

ok i will switch that out

[viscid swift]

also ^

go back through your entire fleet aside fro the ASW gear

[scarlet cosmos]

giving this a read asap, thank you so much

[stark quiver]

the stig guide gets spammed here so much now

[scarlet cosmos]

okay i am off to try 15-3 again

[viscid swift]

and make sure your support fleet is leveled and geared as well

[scarlet cosmos]

yup! i have flap jacks and tiger cats on them

thank you everyone 😭

[viscid swift]

there are several planes better than Tigercats for AA

and that are cheaper than Flapjacks

[scarlet cosmos]

im looking at the gear guide and was going based on that

[rain bobcat]

there are purple planes from gear lab that are not much worse than flap jacks and much better than tigers

[viscid swift]

that's not for the support fleet

for the support fleet you only care about AA

[scarlet cosmos]

OH

[viscid swift]

craft a few of these to replace your tigercats in the support fleet
https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/equips/id/47200

[scarlet cosmos]

i can only craft one 😭

i need a lot of SR aircraft design plans

[stark quiver]

do u have selectors?

[rain bobcat]

those dont require many SR plans

hit up a selector

you only need iirc 2 or 3 each plane

[scarlet cosmos]

what are selectors

[rapid shard]

Its the paper with question mark

[scarlet cosmos]

oh i was referring to this for SR plans

[viscid swift]

you mean ordinance reports?

[scarlet cosmos]

oh yeah i do

ok i can make 3 of them (planes)

[flat oak]

Is there easier way to do this or u need to wait 10 days everytime to complete this

[viscid swift]

you need to wait 10 days

[rain bobcat]

wait

[scarlet cosmos]

jk i can make 4

[stark quiver]

22

[soft raft]

#gameplay-help message
Bumping my thread again now that more people are active

[scarlet cosmos]

alright, i changed my fighters in my support fleet to the fw 190 g 3

i will now go to 15-3 😭

[rapid shard]

Been crafting shit like crazy and only started 3 months ago so cut me a little slack lol

[still thorn]

Anyone know when the "Wattage Rising" event may happen again? Or if the Elridge Retrofit part may come to the shop?

[eternal moth]

It reran a month ago

[soft raft]

it already reran so it should be added to the protocore shop maybe early next year

[still thorn]

cool ty

[viscid swift]

would nae expect it until August next year

[fresh tangle]

Probably not gonna bulin anyone soon but who should I get?

[tidal dust]

at what point do i start to build a second fleet? i have alot of ships but i haven't really started gearing any but my main fleet, which i still haven't gotten close to getting top gear for yet anyway, but im about through the OPSI story.....mainly because im out of oil for mainline story/ event story. do i just keep grinding with the one fleet for now?

also is there a difference between this and the same thing except with the word mount on the end?

[quiet kiln]

Should i use anchorage over jintsuu meta?

[scarlet cosmos]

okay so i survived longer, but now its mainly my backline dying

[viscid swift]

do you not have enough staggs for everyone, what's your support fleet, where is dying, and what are you drying to

[scarlet cosmos]

i have enough staags, dying two battles after no ammo

[sharp socket]

also vf17 is worse than hellcat, get a flapjack in there

[scarlet cosmos]

support

[viscid swift]

dying to what

[sharp socket]

support fleet is not great but its fine i suppose

[sweet delta]

why are there 2 battles after no ammo?

[sharp socket]

if you have indomitable you can use her over indep for support

[scarlet cosmos]

just normal fleets

like the ones with three red triangles

[scarlet cosmos]

shes lvl. 115 😅

[sharp socket]

ok so for w15 you hit the super carriers first

[viscid swift]

was it a battleship fleet

and I mean what was killing you, the planes, subs, etc

[sharp socket]

use the extra thing that moves the enemy ship in the top left and hit the super carrier there

[scarlet cosmos]

i think so

[sweet delta]

[sharp socket]

then bottom right you can move them again and if you want use an airstrike to hit the super carrier below

[scarlet cosmos]

oh im good against subs, it was advancing ships and suicide boats

[scarlet cosmos]

what do you mean by this?

[viscid swift]

why would you take a 3 star BB fleets without ammo, those are scarry even with ammo

[warped acorn]

is there any good shipgirl from this rerun in latter stages

[sharp socket]

try not to fight battleship fleets

[sweet delta]

there should only be 7 battles total

3 mobs, 1 boss, 2 mobs, 1 boss. Your mob fleet shouldn't be fighting all 7

[soft raft]

At earliest W9

[scarlet cosmos]

super cv is the thing in the corner right

[sharp socket]

yes theres 2 of them

[rain bobcat]

theres only 1 in -3 i htink?

[sharp socket]

you should aim to kill both while you have ammo buff

[soft raft]

That's 12-4 not 12-3

[scarlet cosmos]

there is like a mini zuiho boss fight in the middle and then 5 more spawn in or something

[viscid swift]

why are you trying to 3 star on lethal

[sharp socket]

oh he's on 15-3 didnt backread

[soft raft]

If you're trying to 3* that shit, do it on safe threat lvl

[viscid swift]

with a clearly under developed fleet

[scarlet cosmos]

OH

i see now, i always try to full clear beforehand and did not know i could get safety on two stars

that makes sense 😭 thank you everyone

[rain bobcat]

clearing mode also eliminates super CVs

[soft raft]

also speaking of W15
How does clearing mode on Auto handle the bosses in -3 and -4? does the Boss fleet just go fight them all even if that means that they have to cope with that debuff

[tidal dust]

i just hit w9 not really progressing much through it, kinda using the majority of my oil in the event

[rain bobcat]

yes

its not a hard feat by any means, just need good comp

[scarlet cosmos]

thank you for your help, ill get safety first

[viscid swift]

the debuff gets removed with clearing node

[soft raft]

oh nice

[tidal dust]

how does one go about leveling a second fleet, do i use the xp packets to get them to a specific level then like put them in a fleet with like just unicorn and farm 9-1? or do i swap a single underlevelled ship into the main fleet until it is levelled up to where it needs to be?

[soft raft]

mainly XP books
and slotting in some ships into mob to get carried by the higher lvl ones

[tidal dust]

right but if i only have 1 fleet right now, i need to MAKE the mob fleet

and if i understand right don't use UR's unless they are MLB?

[soft raft]

yeah you would slot in like maybe 1-2 ships that are at a acceptable level (like at the very least MLB) that would be in your fleet where Unicorn will babysit them (especially after retro with her preload airstrike)

then as they get levels, you rotate in other ships and repeat until you now have a 2nd fleet's worth of proplery raised ships

[tidal dust]

when i have that secondly raised fleet, does unicorn go into the boss fleet or the mob fleet?

[robust onyx]

Mob fleet since it's fighting more

[soft raft]

Unicorn is essentially a perament fixture in the mob fleet

boss doesnt need a healer since it only does 1 fight per sortie

[late flame]

^ boss fleet do not use healers for the most part

[soft raft]

And even if a boss fleet does need a healer, it would often be a secondary one like Aquila, Zuihou, or Volga

[tidal dust]

and on the UR question, don't use unless MLB? i have a kronshtadt that i was using until it was recommended to switch it out with another vangard

[soft raft]

correct
also Kron is frankly one of the worst URs in the game

[tidal dust]

oh, i thought it was a good tank

[viscid swift]

she is, it's just you'd use the bullins on just about any other UR

[soft raft]

She doesnt do anything unique that justifys her lower damage and tankiness compared to the other CBs, and her zombie tank gimmick is both very outdated and crap

[tidal dust]

So im better off just using a SR tank and saving the bulins?

[soft raft]

Yes

[zenith heron]

may I know what is this "zombie tank gimmick"?

[soft raft]

Stuff like this

She is essentially dead at 10% HP so it basically does nothing

[zenith heron]

I see, its the hp threshold type of skill

[dawn spade]

anyone know why it doesnt recommend my lvl 100 Aquila ship? it requires a lvl 100+ ship but i always have to add her manually. it recommends every other ship but not Aquila

[soft raft]

Minneapolis is prob the best Zombie gimmick tank, but she's obviously been powercrept completely ages ago

[rain bobcat]

its an OG term for a ship with a skill that allows them to heal once whenever low on healt per battle essentially making them a "zombie" because they refse to die

[viscid swift]

she's probably in a hard mode fleet somewhere or something similar

[dawn spade]

in the main campaign?

[viscid swift]

yes, or event, or war archive

[quiet kiln]

If i have a universal plane slot & fighting a single target, do i pick tenrai or ryuusei/kai

[viscid swift]

depends

[soft raft]

that heavily depends on the timings and the other plane slots that carrier is working with

[viscid swift]

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide/

[quiet kiln]

Im mostly looking for what does better damage

[sweet delta]

ryuusei if it hits

[quiet kiln]

So only use tenrai if its a forced slot

[dawn spade]

wtf you were right! she was in like 1-2 hard mode weird that it only semi-prevents you from choosing a ship that's in a hard mode fleet, but glad it works now lol. thanks

[zenith heron]

Unless you have lots of Tenrais for being rich or specific loadouts, then yes

[rain bobcat]

that's misleading

outside of a forced slot you would never use tenrai for single target

[tidal dust]

speaking of equipement, is there a difference between the 533 quintuple torpedo mentioned on ecgc anthe the 533 quintuple torpedo mount?

[soft raft]

what
I'm assuming one of those is supposed to be the quad because you just listed the same thing twice

[quiet kiln]

For mobbing scenario is tenrai better than a parallel torp like wyvern or breguet? Still assuming universal plane slot

[rapid summit]

Is it a good idea to swap regensburg or Otto von out for Helena?

[rain bobcat]

every single torp has mount in its name, its just omitted if that's what ur asking

[zenith heron]

depends, since Wyvern at least has intercept alongside Breguets, Dive Bombers don't

[soft raft]

Ehhhh
esp since Wyvern and Breguet have passive interception capability which is very handy for W13 and W15

[tidal dust]

that is what im asking, thanks. some of them had it some of them didn't so i wasn't sure

[quiet kiln]

What about w14?

[soft raft]

mayyyyyyyybe
the main thing would be sufficently desycning your carriers to stagger their airstrikes, which a Tenrai could do since DBs have longer reload than TBs

but it depends on the overall comp

[quiet kiln]

What is the optimal time difference for a desync?

[rain bobcat]

like 0.5s minimum

[soft raft]

what

[quiet kiln]

Oh i thought it was 2s

[rain bobcat]

thats minimum not optimal

[soft raft]

that would be way too fast
esp if you want to reduce vanguard pressure from multiple waves of attacks

[rain bobcat]

0.5s ish is just barely enough to allow 2 airstrikes to clear 2 waves 1-2s is better

usually it just entails having unicorn run beacon

[stark quiver]

0.5? whats the point of even desyncing then

[soft raft]

^
that's like regular syncing gaps for OpSi

it's more like 1-2s in campaign to maximize enemy bullet deletion and/or match up with waves of enemy planes

[fresh tangle]

I am probably not going to bulin anyone given other event options but who to pick up next?

[warped acorn]

what these meowfficers even do

[soft raft]

Shinano > Musashi (Pending actually being peramently added) > Vanguard > Everyone else

[stark quiver]

theyre meowficers with preset talents
so you unlock one of the preset talents every 5 levels or something

[warped acorn]

are the preset talents good or worth buying

[rain bobcat]

drake is good

probably better BB cat than anything a casual is ever going to get

[stark quiver]

drake is probably gonna be your best bb cat
buy do you need anything else from core shop?

[warped acorn]

perhaps no, alr got the subs stat, prob buying it next month

[late flame]

i'd say get drake if you have nothing else to buy

[warped acorn]

so the kidd isnt worth right

[fresh tangle]

Follow up then. Who to save bulins for next

[late flame]

how many bulins do you have + able to get?

[stark quiver]

a new UR

[fresh tangle]

Have one atm and another coming soon.

[soft raft]

then just wait

[stark quiver]

even if they had 4 what would they even put it into

[soft raft]

Unzen rerun is soon™ and we are highly likely to get a new UR in December

[fresh tangle]

Thought that would be the case. I need a second healer for opsi

[soft raft]

Dunno what that has to do with URs but ok

[fresh tangle]

I think anyway. I don’t actually know what to prioritise next. I’m all over the place 😂

[warped acorn]

does i404 need a improved snorkle

[tidal dust]

are all the early PR's not worth using

[rain bobcat]

ibuki is good, monarch is quite decent

[rain vine]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MhvKc4iZsU

[quiet kiln]

Which is better for Anchorage, Quadruple 533mm Si 270 or 550mm Triple Torpedo Launcher

[sweet delta]

550 twin or triple

[soft raft]

Anchorage's TRP stat is too dogshit to make the most out of the damage boost from the PR8 torp that you prob wouldnt really want to bother crafting it

[eternal moth]

I typically give her the 550 twin

Blue iris torps

[quiet kiln]

So just the triple since it's roughly a second faster

[dapper token]

Does pr6 not have coin up?

[rain bobcat]

no

[eternal moth]

Twin is even faster. By almost 10 seconds

[quiet kiln]

Guess im making twin since im researching pr8 anyway

[eternal moth]

Wait, never mind. That was white, MB

[soft raft]

Lol

[eternal moth]

Twin is a little over a second faster than triple

[rain bobcat]

is there a list of l2d+ skins

[sweet delta]

https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/skins?flags=128

[rain bobcat]

ty

[rain vine]

someone already answered

[dapper token]

ohh i thought the messsage didnt load

sorry dang i thought it had coin up

[tidal dust]

is there a difference between the barracuda and the fairey barracuda?

[eternal moth]

You mean the Fairey Barracuda and the 831 Squadron version?

[soft raft]

I'm assuming you mean the Barracuda VS the Barracuda (831 Squadron) (Both have "Fairey" in their name lol)

In which case the 831 Squad ver is a DB that is not worth it at all while the regular one is a transitional beginner TB

[tidal dust]

No fairey in the name

[soft raft]

Apparently neither does the 831 version so I guess both of our points are moot

But TLDR, the 831 Squad version is not worth it at all

[tidal dust]

is this version the good version

[eternal moth]

I'd use that on most mobbing CVs until you get Wyverns

There are better options, but IMO they're marginal

[sweet delta]

Barracuda is third best worth getting according to https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide/#main-fleet-weapons-cv-airplanes

[tidal dust]

is it better to have your backline be battleships or battlecruisers or a mix, for a boss fleet

[sweet delta]

No difference

[soft raft]

there's basically no difference between BBs and BCs outside of hard mode requirements occasionally having a BC requirement

also I personally do 1 BB/BC 2 CV for boss basically 99% of the time outside of OpSi

[eternal moth]

Do either Washington or Oumi need flag for any reason?

[soft raft]

They both do

[sweet delta]

-3 for wash and -4 for Oumi. Oh well you're probably just farming

[eternal moth]

What do those numbers mean?

[sweet delta]

Flag req penalty on endgame tierlist , -4 needs flag more

[eternal moth]

But yeah, I'm just tech farming.

I'll throw Oumi in mid, Washie is already 118

[hollow gust]

Oumi should get the flag anyway considering she doesn't have a DD gun for aux

[sweet delta]

What's wrong with twin 137

[warped acorn]

is there any notable shipgirl from this banner for latter context

[sweet delta]

no

[soft raft]

no not really

[warped acorn]

[soft raft]

Just use build tickets for daily builds, dont bother using cubes unless you want ot pull for collection

Unzen rerun is soon™ and we are highly likely to get another new Gacha UR in December

[warped acorn]

mhm..

is every type of meowfficer preset same? like steel, oscar

[soft raft]

no

[sweet delta]

they have different skills and have different biases for talents

[soft raft]

the base talents a Mewofficer can drop with are randomized
the Tempesta cats are the only ones with specifically preset talents

[warped acorn]

oh thanks sir

[stark quiver]

you get stuff like this

[forest palm]

[strange sphinx]

BB Cat even though Bisha is CV cat

[stark quiver]

that was a flame roll btw

[zenith heron]

what do you guys consider a solid cat to not change other than a perfect cat?

[stark quiver]

every and drake for BB cats
and i just use 2 non flame 20 rld purple cats for cvs

[zenith heron]

curious though if most used cats are ones for BB and CV? any notable Meowfficers to use in Vanguard ships?

also the only talents worth it are just FP and RLD/ AVI and RLD? Or some of those Rainbow Talents like Flame's Aggression?

[flat oak]

anyone knows if we will get tempesta cats in new event or nah

[ivory pawn]

No info, though personally I'd bet on it.

[ivory pawn]

Flame's one of the best talents. Mountain's Tenacity is good for campaign. Most of your DPS is usually from backline, which is why backline cats are preferred.

[zenith heron]

I see, I thought it would be preferred if only one cat for vanguard and other for main...

was doing Justice and Oscar for mob, so I guess Justice is the only notable Vanguard Meofficer for most use? I guess I was coping on Takemaru?

[fallow sedge]

Just asking if I should get Either drake or Kidd

[zenith heron]

unsure about Kidd, but Drake seems solid for GPH peeps here

[fathom burrow]

Is the only way to get more helpers on the Island to pull through gacha?

[sweet delta]

island questions go to #1422463299877867540 message

[sweet delta]

and that links to the answer to your question

[ivory pawn]

If Every reruns with the Tempesta event, Drake + Every will likely end up your goto combo for a long time.

[weary edge]

would i be able to coin fdg’s dev lvl while researching agir at the same time

ty

[stark quiver]

they will be my best combo until cat update

[scarlet cosmos]

How does enterprise compare to shinano?

[atomic abyss]

best of SR
still worse than a MLB UR but can stand up to them

[hard mesa]

you can't diassemble aug?

[soft raft]

You feed them to other augs like you would with Meowfficers

[gusty olive]

How's Ryu and Hestia performance wise?

[late flame]

ryu is decent
hestia is lol

[dapper token]

Has bismarck zwei been rerun yet

[dapper token]

damn so all i can do is just wait for her to be added to the perma pool?

in abt 2 years prob

[real folio]

Can anyone help me a bit here ? I know the requirement is overall level 100 ,but can I get any other suggestions for fleets? Also I'm some retro blueprints before getting roon and I have Ulrich UR ship as well

[rain vine]

vanguard (the ship) is useless in that fleet
portland should be leftmost vanguard unit
akagi and kaga are pretty bad, but i guess work if you really dont have anyone else

[sweet delta]

Starter DDs are also pretty bad, as are any non limit broken URs

[real folio]

This is all I have , I'm really new to this game

Kaga is just my favourite unit , I also pitied Shinano yesterday I think, but honestly I'm not even a month in

[bleak skiff]

Who should I pity off UR if these are what I have rn

[weak elk]

how bad is suisei as a plane

well or what plane should i use for graf zeplin

[rain bobcat]

I would claim NJ for now then get musashi when she comes as perma after

[rain bobcat]

bf109g, or ju 87 from gear lab for single target

[weak elk]

i gave graf 3 suisei...

[rain bobcat]

only other option would be su-2 divebomber

what im talking about is only for the single plane that activates her skill, for the rest of the slots refer to https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide

[nova burrow]

Id might be a little late, but does tirpitz augmented skill scale with the bismarck skill? ^^

[rain bobcat]

what

[bleak skiff]

Well I gotta wait like 400 pulls so musashis coming after awhile I'm guessing?

[rain bobcat]

could be a while could be in a few eeks

[bleak skiff]

Yk fair enough I'll probably be doing 400 when there's a new UR anyways

[rain bobcat]

bis just directly boosts tirpitz dmg by like 50% im not sure what ur asking fo

[rain bobcat]

UR pulls dont count to perma

[bleak skiff]

Oh what

Nvm then 😂

Should I hold that pity then since at least I can guarantee musashi

[flat oak]

anyone has spreadsheet for priority augments?

[rain bobcat]

https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/augment-modules

[flat oak]

thanks

[flat oak]

whats better, warspite or monarch augment?

[rain bobcat]

what? its literally already tiered....

I would only get warspite augment for pvp or if you actually have 0 UR but even then warspite isn't a priority to get retrofitted+augmented

[flat oak]

ah ok

[spare harbor]

should i wait until musashi gets added to pool to exchange ur

[loud scarab]

this banner is in the game right now but it doesn't link to anything, is it supposed to be going on right now?

oh it's archived i found it

[rain bobcat]

no

[wind hazel]

if you do minimal daily for coin, you can buy affinity items, which is neat. can raise sub affinity without spending oil

[nova burrow]

Well pre aug tirps skill got "overwritten" with +10% from biscos skill because there was an other bb. Now with tirps aug she gets still 30% while german bbs are present.
So does biscos skill add up or still overwrithe

[muted wind]

really, just the 2 daily missions totalling 4k are enough for the affinity gifts, you don't need to do more if it's just about that. if you even care for that

[rain bobcat]

what?

[muted wind]

the effects should stack

When there are no non-Iron Blood BBs or BCs in your Main Fleet
no, she gets it as long as all other BBs are iron blood ones

[rain bobcat]

wait its non

[muted wind]

shouldn't be too long

[rain bobcat]

[muted wind]

tbf, that phrasing is a bit ass. either way, effects stack

[rain bobcat]

it should just stack additively

not that either nor both of them are good eitherway

I might have 6 bismarck's and 3 tirpitz's at 125 but they're still undoubtebly ass