gameplay-help

[jolly plover]

@forest palm daaaamn. You're right

Would probably go to sleep without doing it

[vital cloak]

should i upgrade more of the Unicorn and Portland skills? or this is enough?

[viscid swift]

yes, no

you should as a rule of thumb max the skills of any ship you're using

Portland's skills just happen to be both uselesss

[rapid shard]

Unicorn first before anyone lol shes gonna carry you for a long time

[eternal moth]

To clarify, upgrade Unicorn's skills, Portland's aren't as important.

[jolly plover]

Unicorn extremely good, actually.

[vital cloak]

oh

[jolly plover]

The meta tells to me use Unicorn Retro, I use Shouhou.

[viscid swift]

ok

[vital cloak]

not gonna lie, there's these 3 events that i'll not be unlocking so soon

[rapid shard]

Private quarters and island planner have no real impact on main game. You can just ignore them if you want

[jolly plover]

My potato device can't even run either.

[vital cloak]

i see, btw i saw that private quarters have 3D Characters, is that true?

[viscid swift]

yes

[jolly plover]

1.7GB of taihou.

[vital cloak]

only a few ships or like all ships have 3D model in that Private quarters? (sorry for asking too much)

[viscid swift]

there's only 5 ships in there currently, New Jersey, Sirius, Anchorage, Noshiro, Taiho

[jolly plover]

The game would implode if every single one had 3D models. XD

[vital cloak]

i see

[rapid shard]

Its also kinda jank at times and does break a lot depending on how good of a device you have

[jolly plover]

The selection of who gets into it is kinda funny tho

[rapid shard]

For context im on a S25+ and first few times I checked it out, I froze up and graphics broke. Haven't messed with it since

[jolly plover]

I just saw the "your device might not be able to run this" and left.

[vital cloak]

does the "defeat all the enemies" in a stage, needs to be all enemies in the map or like defeat some and defeat the boss to complete that task?

[viscid swift]

defeat all enemies that appear on the map

[jolly plover]

All.

[vital cloak]

i see

[jolly plover]

Lucky you can do it only once and then do what you said.

[vital cloak]

so, i defeat all the enemies once and then go defeat the boss in the next try?

[viscid swift]

no

[jolly plover]

Uhm? No? All enemies, then the boss. Got the star? Good. Now defeat just until the boss shows up and go for the boss.

[viscid swift]

you need to beat all the enemies that appear on a map in one run

[vital cloak]

oh

[viscid swift]

there's a counter in the top left of the screen to keep track of all the mobs

[viscid swift]

yeah give this a read if you haven't already
https://azurlaneecgc.com/newbie_tips/

[silent hearth]

who is the best/most honest Admin or staff that is currently online, anyone know?

[forest palm]

not a topic for here

[silent hearth]

its relevent.

[forest palm]

please eleborate

[silent hearth]

nevermind, ill ask in general. but it is relevent and im going to discuss it with them.

(its a good thing, i promise)

[viscid swift]

what

[forest palm]

next

[jolly plover]

General kinda dank rn.

[topaz smelt]

syanda

[silent hearth]

yeah thats generally why i avoid it like the plague XD

[viscid swift]

this'll be fun to watch

[fluid brook]

Do anyone knows the use of the stats of characters in Island planner

[vital cloak]

how do i move my submarine to another place?

[vital cloak]

lemme check, it can't be that bad

[jolly plover]

There a little button on the bottom right

[viscid swift]

there's a hidden bar on the right side of the screen, 3 bars

one of the buttons enables you to move the subs though it'll cost you oil

[vital cloak]

i see, thank yall

[viscid swift]

though you probably don't need subs

[strange sphinx]

[rapid shard]

Subs are not really relevant till end game levels. W14 and W15

[vital cloak]

should i?

[viscid swift]

have more than 150 dock space, yes

[jolly plover]

If you can. Would be great

[vital cloak]

ok

[viscid swift]

minimum even if you're not a collector you'd want 300-400

and if you are eventually you'll want around 800+

/gems

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Gem Spending 101

Gems in Azur Lane are fairly rare from an F2P perspective. However, the gacha in Azur lane does not require gems and their main usage is expansion of facilities like dorm, academy, docks and depot, as well as buying resources, resource packs, premium items (rings and name change), and skins.

As an F2P, you can get up to 4700 guaranteed gems (3750 for 3* clearing all 15 main campaign worlds, 800 for completing Bands collection and 150 for 8 days login campaign), not counting random gems from commissions or occasional bonuses from events or other sources.

Considering limited availability of gems for F2P players, even if spent exclusively on QoL upgrades, it is impossible to upgrade everything.

This is the recommended way to spend gems as an F2P:

• 3rd Dorm slot (300 gems)
• Dorm 2nd floor (500 gems)
• Dock space (remaining gems)

The main purpose of the dorm is for faster morale regen while grinding. Using ships with 0 morale will receive a 50% exp penalty and lose affinity.

The 2nd floor of the dorm will have the same number of slots as the 1st floor. While it lacks passive exp gain, it has faster morale regen. 3 dorm slots with the 2nd floor gives you a total of 6 slots, which is enough for your whole mob fleet.

Dock space is the biggest constraint for players. While this can help casual players collect all their waifus, there is also practical use in collecting ships - for later levelling to get their fleet tech on reaching lvl 120. These are important for players as they provide crucial additional stats that help players to tackle the hardest content (W14/15, H.Arbiters, CM).

Alternatively, players may consider getting the 3rd Academy slot for faster skill training or more dorm slots instead of just dock space (not recommended).

While players may opt to buy skins/rings with the F2P gems, this will come at the cost of QoL. It is recommended to only buy those with real money 💳.

[rapid shard]

Like that gem guide I linked you earlier once you get 2nd floor you want to spend all Gems on docm space

[vital cloak]

i see

only bought 20 dock spaces cause i don't want to spend all the gems

[warped acorn]

hi chat, will be the new tempesta banner only new or old also came along too?

[viscid swift]

only the new ships will be on rate up, they might have the ships from the last tempesta event in the event pool though

[hollow gust]

That's where all your gems should be going anyway

[rapid shard]

Most the olds one are in the perm pool anyway now right?

[versed forum]

can i open nxt stage if i just clear a stages?

[viscid swift]

no, there's still the ones from the tempesta event last year

the ones being made perma are from 2023

[soft raft]

no
only those from the first Tempesta event

And even then, they were added literally two days ago, wayyyyyyy too soon to be in the upcoming banner

[vital cloak]

i see, then i'll spent of all it (even tho i was saving for akagi skin, but i guess it will be for later)

[tidal dust]

wait, how do you pay for floor 2 with gems? it says it only unlocks when floor 1 is full expanded which costs decor tokens

[soft raft]

you have to fully expand the first floor first
which costs dorm tokens

[hollow gust]

As I always say, buying skin is a luxury for spenders

[jolly plover]

Floor 2 is 500 gems. Expansions are coins

[rapid shard]

I know they wont rate up them. I just completely forgot bout last year's units

[viscid swift]

read the gem guide, get the 3rd dorm slot and 2nd floor first, then all in on dock space

[soft raft]

that's what the 💳 is for

[vital cloak]

i see, i would do that only for skin and maybe for some ships

[soft raft]

You can prob barely buy like 1 and 1/3rd of a L2D with all of the lifetime gems you'd get

[viscid swift]

better to not convert gems to cubes

[vital cloak]

i see

[jolly plover]

Ok, lads. Lemme ask something I've been itching to know for years.

[rapid shard]

Honestly you never really need to spend for ships. This game give plenty of cubes to pull everything. Long so your saving cubes between events.

[eternal moth]

No, I won't marry you.

[vital cloak]

luckily i didn't know about that until now

[jolly plover]

Did we ever get any info on this?

[soft raft]

for the red ports in OpSi? They dont have stores by design

[viscid swift]

in the red ports in OpSi? asside from a few daily missions that's useless

[vital cloak]

well, im bad at saving, and im bad at having too much money in my pocket staying still

[rapid shard]

Also it is very very expensive to buy cubes/finishers to whale for a ships.

[tidal dust]

Im about to hit W9, now what

[viscid swift]

well it's not expensive relative to other gacha games

[jolly plover]

Bah knew those did nothing

[rapid shard]

Just expand dock buy skins and rings lol

[viscid swift]

it's just absurd given how eaisly you can get cubes in AL

[vital cloak]

i see, so.. i can get many married wifes as i want?

[rapid shard]

You can oath every single ship in game if you want

[viscid swift]

you can marry however many ships as you can afford oath rings

[jolly plover]

As long as you have enough ruppies

[rapid shard]

You'd be looking at around half a million gems to do so tho btw

[vital cloak]

i see, would i be cooked if i buy another ring instead of a bit more of dock spaces?

[soft raft]

you just keep grinding like normal
except now you can also start working on a 2nd fleet

[viscid swift]

I would reccomend against it unless you fork money over to buy the gems for it

[soft raft]

^

[tidal dust]

im mainly only oathing girls that have special skins for it

[rapid shard]

Dock space is way more useful than any oath will ever be

[jolly plover]

@vital cloak you could enter a point you can't have any more new waifus

[soft raft]

🆗

[vital cloak]

well, not if a new update releases

[jolly plover]

Do remenber to use some random Gray and Blue ships you don't need to Enhance the ones you like tho.

[vital cloak]

talking about that, i need to limit break my portland, but i need lvl 70 on her, and i have some of that universal ship thing and the yellow version too

[soft raft]

#al-general is that way

[vital cloak]

sorry boss

[jolly plover]

We are literally helping them, bruh.

[silent hearth]

yeah some of the people in here are real pricks

[viscid swift]

comments like this are irrelevant and unecessary

please keep things on topic

[jolly plover]

Well shit. Guess I'll turn into chatpgt then.

[rapid grail]

is it the infamous November medium armor arbiter?

thats in opsi atm

[rapid shard]

Light armor right now

[viscid swift]

it's October beth

[soft raft]

💀

[late flame]

but yes nov arbiter (next month) is strength (medium armor)

[rapid grail]

oh i alr thought it was november...

but yeah, thanks for the reminders

[silent hearth]

oh im so sorry. did i upset you?

[viscid swift]

no, just keep things on topic

for no other reason than those are the channel rules

they're one of first pinned messages in this channel if you want to read them

[jolly plover]

1984

Well, I'll go sleep. Farewell, lads.

[viscid swift]

say what you like but those are simply the rules

if you want to get banned from the channel then be my guest

[silent hearth]

sure sure

[tidal dust]

oil cap kicks in at w9 right

[soft raft]

it starts at W9 yes
and it comes into effect after you 100% clear a stage

[rapid shard]

Would Duke of York be worth grabbing for the +2 RLD BB tech if i have nothing else really to push at the moment?

[soft raft]

RLD is one of the highest prio techs for backliners so yee

[rain bobcat]

yes

[rapid shard]

Im trying to use fleet tech tracker site on mobile to see which give RLD but its bugging out for me and only can see Ulrich and Duke when I apply filters.

[rain bobcat]

depending on ur situation of URs id suggest focusing to a breakpoint of either CV and BB

[rapid shard]

Very little URs only MLBs are NJ Essex Sandy Eld and Hakuhou

[rain bobcat]

28-30 is good for CV

[rain bobcat]

BB is 18 or need to use oath+faster gun

[rapid shard]

Thanks for that man.

[viscid swift]

you can use this to keep track of who is what
https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/tracker

[wind hazel]

👴🏼 havent seen that UI for awhile

[rapid shard]

NJ and Oumi are oathed so shooting for that +13 rld threshold

[rain bobcat]

id say just do 2 bb 1 cv 12-4 farming

[rapid shard]

Yeah thats what I was trying to see but acting buggy on mobile when I apply filters

[wind hazel]

1 bb 2 cv

you will finish bb long before you finish cv

[viscid swift]

well if you only look at reload tech

[rapid shard]

Im running 1BB 2CV mainly. Just finished 120ing Maryland so starting next one. I thought i had seen somewhere she gave rld but that was wrong lol

[sick kettle]

incase the pirate event release do i pull or just save for unzen rerun? im on 300+ cubes rn

[sharp socket]

save

[rapid shard]

Save unless you want the tempesta ships

[viscid swift]

we also have the date a live collab next month probably

[sharp socket]

tempesta are collection only

[flat oak]

Is painleve good healer?

[rain bobcat]

dal prob the yearly collab after black fri

[viscid swift]

not really

[sharp socket]

except for like a couple occasions

[tidal dust]

so how does leveling other ships work now that im at W9? i just swap in1 at a time and let the rest of the fleet wipe it out or is there some other way with it

[soft raft]

Eh
Certainly wont be replacing Unicorn Retrofit in 99.99% of scenarios

[flat oak]

My only healers are Unicorn retrofit and shouhou

[viscid swift]

you only need Unicorn for most content

[sharp socket]

unicorn + 5 ships you want to level

[soft raft]

The only other healer you really need besides Unicorn is Aquila/Volga and they would be secondary healers in more challenging content

[viscid swift]

by which I mean everything but W14 and W15

[sharp socket]

until you can do 6 ships leveling at once

[viscid swift]

and only W15 I'd consider a 2nd healer more mandatory than nice to have

[tidal dust]

is unicorn enough to keep low level ships alive or do you only put them it at a certain level?

[sharp socket]

also make your leveling fleet only do mob and have a separate fleet for boss

[viscid swift]

I've put level 1 ships to level in W12 before without Unicorn

[sharp socket]

for 12-4 i bring them to lv90 before sending them in

[soft raft]

only problem with Pre-W12 oil cap grinding is suicide boats are a thing
Esp in W10 and W11 where they throw many of them at you

[sharp socket]

and also have decent gear

[rapid shard]

12-4 you can run 4 lv70s with uni and a good tank

[sharp socket]

thats 2 less ships than you could be leveling

[tidal dust]

is that auto or manual?

[viscid swift]

we always assume auto unless specified otherwise

[rapid shard]

Full auto. Uni with good tank Eliminates almost all risk of them dying and morale dropping too fast.

[viscid swift]

but W12 isn't the same as W9

[charred pollen]

What’s the best gear for halford

[viscid swift]

standard DD gear with the F8F Bearcat for her 3rd slot

[charred pollen]

Where can I get the f8f bearcat

[soft raft]

PR7 research

[charred pollen]

Thanks

[vale spindle]

which one theres a seaplane one (pr7) and theres the gear lab one

[soft raft]

Considering the question about Halford, prob the seaplane one

[vale spindle]

i can't read

[forest palm]

PR7

[charred pollen]

And then aux gear just regular dd aux as well

[wind hazel]

yes toolkit+hp gear

[charred pollen]

Hp gear is what exactly?

[wind hazel]

any aux gear with 500+ hp, like 2nd toolkit, or goldburn etc

[forest palm]

GB is certainly a choice

[charred pollen]

Ah

Thanks 🎑

[warped acorn]

is the event shop weapon good?

[forest palm]

it's a very strong CL gun

[stark quiver]

yes

[peak fable]

So uh... no one told me what Sailing Frigattes do.

Im just wondering what their niche is

[eternal moth]

It depends on the ship, but none of them are that great. Some are subs, some are vanguard, some are main fleet.

[exotic wren]

what's the req ships per fleet in the d stages? bb ca and?

[vale spindle]

they are damage dealers that depending on the ship are main fleet vanguard fleet or submarine fleet

[soft raft]

They're split into Main, Vanguard, and Submarine slots
they're realistically collection tier as the main/vanguard ones have zero AA capability and heavily limited gear options and the submarine ones cant submerge so they're vulnerable to getting slapped and die instantly

the best use you'll prob ever get is using a submarine category one to turn the submarine weekly raid into clown college, but it's barely worth the resources needed to do so

[warped acorn]

what does the curia means again in fleet tech

[soft raft]

Vichya Dominion
Aka the evil French

[eternal moth]

I'd never seen a family friend as angry as asking her about the vichy French; she was English, and lived in London in the 30s and 40s.

[peak fable]

oh btw, how do you guys farm the event, do you do all stages once per day or which do you focus on?

[wind hazel]

just daily bonus+SP

[peak fable]

all stages? so normal mode as well?

[wind hazel]

ye

[safe nexus]

which gear in gear lab should i prioritize?

[peak fable]

kk, thought so, according to my math, you should reach about 41k in the 7 day period doing that, pretty good, can get most of the good stuff from the shop (will have to skip out on some of the BPs tho...)

[wind hazel]

first one almost always a wyvern

[viscid swift]

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide

[safe nexus]

ok ty

[safe nexus]

i looked at it but idk which category do i target

[viscid swift]

we created the category new skk

looking there would be helpful

oh wait wrong guide
https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/gear-lab

should be this

[safe nexus]

ok ty

i dont even have a single UR related material to craft anything UR that hurts

[wind hazel]

like i said, start with a wyvern

it's a very good cl gun

[ivory pawn]

Unless you have a lot of Plyguns, you can probably get some use out of it.

[safe nexus]

should i focus others at SR since i have them until i have UR?

[wind hazel]

i mean what else you gonna get with the currency lol

[wind hazel]

get 1 wyvern, 1-2 ju87, come back and ask again when you have crafted these two gear

[safe nexus]

ok ty

[flat oak]

First augment to be crafted should be sandy's ye?

[viscid swift]

It would be one of the first yes

[flat oak]

What are the others

I have warspite and monarch that doesn't have augments

[viscid swift]

Depends on what you're using

And for what

[dapper token]

Do the auto repeat cost the same no matter how many ship in a fleet you got?

[rapid shard]

For oil capped maps yes.

[dapper token]

like in d3 its 801 for me no matter the ships in my fleet

is it possible to reduce it

[rapid shard]

Thats the oil cap for that map. Only way to reduce would be run a super low cost team

[waxen valley]

when is unzen rerun

[safe nexus]

the x3 drop reward for A-1 to D3 resets before daily?

should i also only do D1 to D3 since oil cap and clearance reward?

[wind hazel]

it resets on daily

if you can low oil map A and B you should do it, it's worth the point

[safe nexus]

ok ty

C1 to C3 dont seem worth it

[wind hazel]

if you're lazy you can unicorn+DD A to C

[safe nexus]

C i cant really 1:1

[wind hazel]

why

[flat oak]

Who's the best healer after unicorn?

[safe nexus]

my ship quite low when boss, so i think will lose

[wind hazel]

just 1:1 the mobs only then, full fleet boss

[safe nexus]

my oil 😭 but ok ty

[wind hazel]

perseus

[safe nexus]

is it worth to even get a second healer when we only need 1 mob fleet?

[wind hazel]

down the line you gotta start leveling ships for their techs. they aren't used to replace unicorn

[stark quiver]

secondary healers are good

such as aquila, and zuihou

[safe nexus]

whats their usage?

[wind hazel]

more sustain on top of unicorn's

[safe nexus]

fun

[stark quiver]

big boom becomes less big boom

[scarlet cosmos]

What are thoughts on brest?

[topaz smelt]

theyre nice
Good tank with some healing

[scarlet cosmos]

Though she doesnt out perform guam as mob tank in w15 right?

[topaz smelt]

Kinda depends if you can compensate for the AA, she's definitely usable

[scarlet cosmos]

Sounds good! I’ll probably come back for fleet advice 😅 ty

[flat oak]

What does mgm+1 mean

[wind hazel]

instead of
pew
ship is now
pewpew

so mgm+2 becomes
pewpewpew

[late flame]

^ Main gun mount +1

[flat oak]

Thx

[scarlet cosmos]

Also, for german cvs, who is better, graf zepp or p strasser?

[rapid shard]

Best explanation ive seen yet lol

[wind hazel]

both kinda poopy but graf has annoying ib plane requirement, so....

[flat oak]

Btw, what's the best farm for event currency. Doing daily x3/x5 or grinding some stage like a lot

[rain bobcat]

daily

[scarlet cosmos]

so what do i do in op sci? ive just been doing daily missions

i have whole map unlocked

[wind hazel]

keep on doing dailies, buy hidden logs and siren logs from shop, buy other stuff from shop as well, do the logs, do strongholds, repeat c3/c5 with leftover APs

[scarlet cosmos]

what is c3/c5?

[rapid shard]

Corrosion level 3 or level 5. When you click a zone it says what level

[scarlet cosmos]

ah okay thank you

my concern is that when im done with dailies im out of AP

is this where buying AP comes in? or do you guys just wait

[rapid shard]

Just wait. Do not spend oil for AP.

[violet grail]

You can technically farm AP in C1 areas by buying AP from mysterious merchant when she shows up but this takes a lot of time and requires initially having 500-1000 AP at least to not go down to 0 from bad luck.

Simpler to just wait for natural regen if youre new to this.

[rapid shard]

Dont farm C1 tho until you know what your doing tbh

[sweet delta]

Surely it's impossible to run out of AP if you only do daily missions

[rapid shard]

Eh weekly reset can mess you up if you do stronghold instantly

[scarlet cosmos]

i have a lot of AP boxes so its okay for now, i just know that i do dailies only and occasional strong hold

[rapid shard]

Save those for last week. Make sure to full map clear and all markers then use them all up on C3 or C5 before reset

[scarlet cosmos]

sounds good! Do the AP boxes reset with op sci

[violet grail]

Yes, the only thing that doesnt reset is exchange shop currency.

[flat oak]

Is this good gun

[rapid shard]

Your entire opsi inventory resets

[rapid shard]

Yes

[flat oak]

Aight thanks

[tulip tinsel]

when do strongholds appear are they like weekly daily or what bcs when i do like one another appears the next day

[dapper token]

who to give it to

[slow fox]

I was using an outdated sheet that didn't do reload
Here is bigger better

[scarlet cosmos]

why c3 and c5 and not c4?

[rapid shard]

Whoever can use it.

[wind hazel]

more ap for the same % of cat nodes

[rapid shard]

C3 rewards are similar to C4 with lower cost

[wind hazel]

c3>c4,
c5>c6
in term ap:cat nodes %

[exotic vine]

which ship should i get

[flat oak]

is getting and retrofitting independence worth rn

[wind hazel]

assuming shinano mlb, vanguard>uvh>kron>shima. musashi to be added soon too so if you dont have her, you can hold onto it until she comes

[rapid shard]

Do you have shinano MLB?

[wind hazel]

if nobody else needs the retrobps, she's a good ship

[flat oak]

i kinda need essex and eldridge retros but i lack item

[exotic vine]

do you know when she will be added

[exotic vine]

no

[rapid shard]

The pick shinano till shes MLB

[flat oak]

so this is my opsi (pretty sad), should i do the main quest first and then other stuff

[rapid shard]

Do main quest till ch4. That unlocks auto and makes opsi way more convenient

[flat oak]

should i do some gear lab or do it after chapter 4 end

[rapid shard]

Ignore gearlab for time being. Its gonna take a bit to get the mats needed to craft the worthwhile stuff

[flat oak]

ah ok

[rapid shard]

/gearlab

[odd root]

https://www.azurlaneecgc.com/images/equip_misc/Gear_Lab_Priority.jpeg

[rapid shard]

Once you get mats you can use this as a baseline. Suchi also has recs on his guide site

But wyvern needs to be one of the first crafts for sure it will help the most

[gilded carbon]

Is Independence used for mobbing preferably? With what i have read about her fast reload, she may not be easy to synch

[ocean oriole]

Hey guys, how good are the new event units Ryu Lion & Hestia?

[zenith heron]

Hestia best repair ship, ||But why use a repair ship in the first place||...

Ryuu Lion at least is a decent CL, but not as much as giving an edge so, she is mid

[rapid shard]

Ryu is okay. Better portland with more dmg and hestia is best repair ship aka best of the garbage

[silent hearth]

In my opinion (and you can disagree with me, this is just my opinion) one of the best few things you can make in the gear lab is the gold quadruple mag torps (surface torps, not sub torps). They are relatively cheap and nearly every vanguard will use them.

these ones

[atomic solstice]

Should i focus on getting pr ships to fs5 before starting development on other pr ships?

[flat oak]

man idk where can i get 500 dr BPs for my FdG

[silent hearth]

just do research and have her as focus. and buy them. itll take a while.

[split gazelle]

no, you can coin fdg

[ocean oriole]

Cool ty. Do you think they're worth investing in or not really?

At least lion is worth it right?

[zenith heron]

Ryuu Lion Barely if you need some decent Tanks, but other than that no, since Event Ships do not give Tech

[ocean oriole]

Ty 🙏

[rain bobcat]

I would say if you are below w9 its worth ditching ur current tank and exp booking ryu lion up to ur fleets level

[spare harbor]

wait does that mean musashis getting powercrept😭

[celest shoal]

Are these good?

Just noticed I had quite a few blueprints

[sharp socket]

staag is good the rest suck

hazemeyer usable if you don't have enough staags

[silent hearth]

i think the twin builds into something good doesnt it?

so just build them as you need them to upgrade. thats BiS DD weapon i believe.

[sharp socket]

yes rainbow dd gun good but the twin 100 not kai is bad

[celest shoal]

I see, thanks

[silent hearth]

sorry i guess i needed to use proper punctuation. yes build them when you plan to get the rainbow gun* they suck and several purples out-perform them. i made the mistake of building several when i started.

[rain bobcat]

?

[spare harbor]

when ur ships get added to permanent pool

[inner delta]

its not

shinano been in perma for a long time, shes still great

[finite light]

How does one play the game?

[feral jasper]

Are there any guides for farming money in the island planner? Besides daily quests?

Food is only sold at a rate of one per day, which isn't enough. Maybe something can be done with the production materials from the factory?

[violet grail]

https://discord.com/channels/456397991847395339/1422463299877867540
Try asking there for island planner stuff.

[silent hearth]

does the island have any benefits to the main game besides the affinity items? actually same question for the 3d dorm too.

[rain bobcat]

there's some very hard earned gems but no

[silent hearth]

mmk ty. ill pass for now. mby one day when im REALLY bored. lol

[ionic kraken]

is guichen a useful ship?

[flat oak]

is Roon µ worth it? My only tanks rn are Portland and i guess Ryuu Lion?

[silent hearth]

Is Project: Identity useless too? more fluff or anything useful?

[plain saffron]

treat it like permanent one time minigame

that gets updates every few months

[silent hearth]

does it just give skins for the loli AIs?

i like skins but i wont bother with that stupid stuff

[plain saffron]

yes

[rain bobcat]

not worth

[warped granite]

It gives a free skin almost immediately for your secretary at least

Don't have to do much except the tutorial for it

[silent hearth]

yeah i think i did it day one because i thought it would have some tangible benefit, havnt touched it since.

[warped granite]

Not much other point then

[wary saffron]

What do these points do now?

I finished all weekly quests

[plain saffron]

if you got the frame then it does nothing

[wary saffron]

What frame

[silent hearth]

check the event page. i think its under 'call to arms' not sure though

[plain saffron]

this

[wary saffron]

So you’re telling me those points are only useful to get a frame?

[ocean oriole]

Hey guys quick question, can I build a full Sakura Empire team for Shipyard Exp. Farming yet or no?

[wind hazel]

you dont need full ijn, just 3 main fleet or 3 vanguard

use any 3 unmaxed ones

[ocean oriole]

Hi Maury, you have a little something on your face there...

[wind hazel]

if you could stop saying useless shit that would be great

[ocean oriole]

Anyway, why do they need to be un maxxed?

[wind hazel]

because using maxed ship would be a waste of exp

[finite light]

This defeat all enemies thing is starting to get me mad

I’ve been defeating everything in sight unless it means every ship I don’t got enough ammo for that

[spare harbor]

ehm ion think u need ammo to do a sortie

it just boosts dmg?
i think

[rain bobcat]

you dont need ammo to battle, it just nerfs ur damage when you have 0

[finite light]

oh then it doesn’t matter nvm I just got 3 stars

I was stuck for way too long on soemthing so small lol

[wary saffron]

For me I hate to defeat 25 ships

[rain bobcat]

new players experiencing gen 2 grinding lmao

OG grinding was like this, but there was no auto search so you had to manually click every single fight until 50k event points

[plain saffron]

yes

last chance to get them also

which one of these are the best

[barren token]

@finite light Out of Ammo gives a -50% damage debuff, if you are overleveled and/or using powerful ships you can just push through it. Do you want help with fleet comp?

[plain saffron]

no i just need the best ship to stick info my pr farming fleet, those are the only non max lvled ship i have so not much option :murmpain:

ouh you replying to others

[rain bobcat]

zui

uni zui raffa is the w15 backline comp for faming

you can hit it with eldridge+2 lvl 110-115 vanguards for exp as well

[wary saffron]

No thank you those frames seem useless

[flat oak]

I heard that Chinese DD retrofits are pretty good

[timid vortex]

is there a way to filter out bulins?

[forest palm]

not really(?), you filter out the Misc Faction but this also gets rid of collab units

[rain bobcat]

wait what's a live 2d+

[onyx flame]

l2d with some extra angles

[rain bobcat]

ah

[lofty zodiac]

🍑

[median prism]

Is takao any good

[plain saffron]

nope

[flat oak]

so Tai Yuan is Main fleet ye, not vanguard

[onyx flame]

dont think anyone ever puts ddg as main

[tulip tinsel]

who even uses ddgs

[plain saffron]

ddg main sucks, use them as vg

[plain saffron]

quite a lot of people

[low lintel]

Hello, could i ask if someone could help me make a fleet for operation siren? I've gotten some new ships and was hoping someone could help me build a new fleet.

[median prism]

Is it worth side-grinding eugen

Like not my main priority but since idk what else to buy in the medal shop for the next 14 days

[split gazelle]

have you bought all spec cores already?

[median prism]

Uhhh no...

[split gazelle]

then do that first

[median prism]

For the UR bulin?

[split gazelle]

yes

[flat oak]

how do u make them work? i retrofitted tai yuan recently but shes pretty meh rn

[wind hazel]

give her stronger gun, get seal of 4gods aux for her, level her skills

[tulip tinsel]

low skill lvls

[flat oak]

Thanks

can i farm D3 in this event with 77th commander level? i heard its pretty good node for farming and better than 11-1

[timid vortex]

is there common opinion on latest event ships (hakuhou, oumi)?

[vernal ridge]

what should i do in this case?

[rain vine]

d3 is roughly around world 10, its not particularly great outside of event points

[viscid swift]

Tap the exit button in the bottom right corner of the screen

[vernal ridge]

no i mean i cant enter this exit

[viscid swift]

.....

I just told you how to get out of that node

[vernal ridge]

all 4 side have thing blocked

[viscid swift]

Without exiting through the portal

[tidal dust]

is there an oil cap on event maps? or just W9+

[rain vine]

all d maps have oil cap

[vernal ridge]

done,thx so much

didnt know that was for case like this

[atomic abyss]

Hakuhou is one of the best anti heavy UR CVs
I-404 is the best submarine
Oumi is one of the best gold BBs (nowhere close to UR)
The rest aren't really notable

[rapid shard]

Actually Oumi on light armor can beat NJ in dmg. Check out Suchis vid on it

Comparable medium dmg as well just falls off in heavy

[pearl hare]

Is it better to keep shima equipped with the homing torps over the quint 610 torps?

[onyx flame]

if your manualling quint is better? iirc, if not mag for auto

[tidal dust]

should i set Research focus to PR8 if im pretty much just starting with it or is a different one better to start with?

[onyx flame]

start with pr8

[topaz smelt]

I typically recommend pr4 to start

[tidal dust]

so i select a season & also a ship?

[knotty jolt]

Yes

[finite light]

Omega late response sorry but I mean sure I toke the is it wrong dungeon collab unit and they are pretty damn good with their air orbs

[viscid swift]

What

[dapper token]

is the event stages good for farming xp

[wind hazel]

only if you need the points

or if you havent unlocked c9 onwards

[finite light]

Rn I’m using ryua,roma,Algeria,suffren,Lyon and unicorn I’m still super early on tho so I’m just confused on what to do @barren token

[viscid swift]

pretty questionable fleet

Algerie and Suffren should be replaced with your starter Z23 and Helena

[dapper token]

ahh so w12 still better

[queen frigate]

How to farm coins
Currently lv 70

[soft raft]

Grind the highest stage that you can comfortably clear, esp if it's W9 or above

[queen frigate]

I lack both coin and oil

[sweet delta]

Idk what you expected, to farm coins you need oil

[queen frigate]

Then is there a way to get oil asides from waiting for the passive income

[wind hazel]

do opsi to proc commissions that give more oil

🫃🏼 which also involve waiting

[weary edge]

shinano or nj from commander guide / ur exchange

[dapper token]

Which shell type is best for w11 he or ap

[knotty jolt]

shinano

[knotty jolt]

anything world 12 and below doesn't really matter

[sweet delta]

Good gun better than bad gun

[silent relic]

do you even earn exp for to your ship development in the lab with commissions

[wind hazel]

no

[silent relic]

oh

[wind hazel]

/prgrind

[odd root]

Does __ count for Shipyard Combat Data Collection EXP?

Yes

• Combat in Main Campaign, Events, Operation Siren
• Ships that are level capped for any reason, if the EXP otherwise would count. Even if you see +0.
• Muse (µ) ships and loli ships, if the faction matches.
• Use faction filters in Dock to double check.

No

• EXP from Exercise, Dorm, EXP Data Packs, Commissions.
• META ships. They are META faction, not the faction of their normal counterparts.

[tall kite]

How do I get Hindenburg blueprints after I’ve already gotten 150/150 bonus and barely get cognition for her in research? I still need like. 200

[eternal moth]

Set your PR focus to PR6 and keep doing research

[tall kite]

I did

What kind of research do I do

[eternal moth]

Then just do research and wait 2-3 months

Face > G > Q

If you have over 1k cubes you can do cube research

[tall kite]

What does that mean

[eternal moth]

First letter of the research

[tulip tinsel]

if you can afford it you can buy blueprints from event shop, medal and even proto iirc

[tall kite]

wtf is face research

[tall kite]

I have 0 cubes atm

[eternal moth]

Then do what I said.

[tall kite]

What is face research

[eternal moth]

Research with a ship's face on it

[tulip tinsel]

the kear and first one

[tall kite]

cognition?

so cognition

[violet grail]

0 cubes is not poggers 🙁 save your cubes for banners with limited availability Ultra Rare ships. Otherwise just save them up. Specifically having 400 guarantees access to pity so you will see people mention saving that specific amount.

[tall kite]

I pulled on this banner cuz I had none of the ships…

[sweet delta]

and that was a bad idea

[tall kite]

idk I wanted the ships

[last zenith]

for events like this one just use one of those ticket things, you get 4 cubes a day if u do that. at the end of event with ticket u dont got the girl u want then u spend.
its a bargin deal

[violet grail]

I also have none of the ships but im only pulling with free tickets. And im even spacing them out doing 3 pulls a day so I dont use any cubes this event. And if I dont get any of them ill just get the one from exchange and chill.

[tall kite]

it’s fine I’ll get cubes back in time for next event

[violet grail]

Unzen rerun is the big one people are saving for next from what ive heard.

[soft raft]

Still was a bad idea overall
We have Unzen rerun looming around the corner and the New Dec UR isn't that far off

[last zenith]

unzen rerun I NEED 5 MORE UNZENS

[sweet delta]

next new event is in 5 days lol

[tall kite]

it’s whatever

[eternal basalt]

In 1 week? No

[tall kite]

ill spend money if i dont have enough

[violet grail]

Thats less money for waifu skins and rings tho disastah.

[tall kite]

well wtf do I do

I already fucked up and spent my cubes

[eternal moth]

Just wait for the UR event in December to spend more than 1 build/day

[quick grotto]

You can probably squeeze a few cubes out of OpSi if you look at the different territory clear missions.

[eternal basalt]

Poor guy, no Kurumi

[tulip tinsel]

will musashi be in perm pool in dec or sooner?

[tall kite]

I’ll just hope I get lucky

[violet grail]

Just advice for future lol dont worry it is what it is.

[tall kite]

or I’ll spend money idrc

[eternal basalt]

Unknown, I think she comes with Unzen though

[soft raft]

We dunno

[twilit rapids]

are there any notable comps where essex is used over other cvs?

[sweet delta]

she's not the best at anything except Chapter 15 support

[little plinth]

my boss fleet is unable to consistently survive on safe full auto, it probably dies about 1/5 runs. I can still finish with my mob fleet but was wondering if there are improvements I can make? have pretty much every ship usable except PR8 DRs because not dev 30 yet. Also, can Houston 2 drop from any boss node or only the final one?

[robust onyx]

Houston 2 only drops from the final boss node

[little plinth]

ok that's what i thought unfortunately lol

[topaz smelt]

She can drop from any boss unless they fixed that

[eternal basalt]

I believe other bosses shown Elite drop max, but that doesn't mean anything last collab teached me...

[topaz smelt]

I got my drop from a mid boss

[robust onyx]

That's what I thought also

If it drops from all boss nodes then I stand corrected

[topaz smelt]

Been like a year so idk if anythings changed

[jolly plover]

Lads, what's a good, non-rainbow lineup for Hakuhou.
I really can't tell if using both Ryuseis is a good idea.

[ivory pawn]

Using both Ryuseis is a good idea.

[topaz smelt]

For what content

[ivory pawn]

Well, not always, but vs bosses if the timing's right.

[robust onyx]

Gear load out or fleet load?

[jolly plover]

Gear, yes.
Content as in which fight? I guess I'd be using her most in boss

[robust onyx]

So stuff to sync her with everyone else in main fleet

[topaz smelt]

For campaign you pretty much just want parallel tbs, for opsi boss you want whatever aimed TB that syncs with your stop

[jolly plover]

That's exactly the stuff I can't measure on my own

[topaz smelt]

@inland shoal have you looked into sub stuff yet?

[ivory pawn]

That's why you use a calculator such as https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/calculator/.

[jolly plover]

Focusing her for opsi then. I need more strength in there.

[topaz smelt]

Excellent I can push my testing til next week

[jolly plover]

@ivory pawn Boi, I wish I knew these existed before.
Thanks!

[topaz smelt]

Altho I prefer a raid event for testing subs

[inland shoal]

Honestly there's been so much on my plate the past few days, I even forgot what I wanted to check exactly

[topaz smelt]

I think it was about the start of fight delay and end surface attack times

Idk if there wasn't anything else

[night terrace]

How do i get for oil?

[topaz smelt]

I found there was a 1s delay before torps started firing that wasn't present in the formula and got more than 5s surface attack time in some cases.

[night terrace]

I been playing like for 2-3 weeks and i have problems with oil recouce

[eternal basalt]

It's ALs stamina. You can improve with €€€

[night terrace]

Free to play?

[ivory pawn]

Remember to upgrade your canteen when possible and do your commissions regularly.

[jolly plover]

Canteen do help a lot early on. Wish we could still collect from it past the little cap they write on top.

Bruh, I rechecked it now.
I was reaching money cap. The actual 600k.
You almost gaslit me into thinking we could get ridiculous amounts of money

[regal flax]

Hello I have some questions about the game
First of all i noticed there are 6 game servers, whats the difference?
How f2p friendly is the game?
How farm intensive is the game?
When is a good time to start?
Can i play it on pc?

[sweet delta]

difference is if you have friends irl
you can 100% the game as f2p
mostly auto afk, tap some buttons every 10 to 20 minutes
now
emulator only

[regal flax]

What server should i start on? if they have different timelines id like to be 1 year behind the one that gets the newest banners
how much time does it take to do the daily tasks
is there website where i can see future banners?

[eternal basalt]

All are the same
5m or so
Twitter, #game-news

[regal flax]

oh ok

[ripe bluff]

there should be another tempesta event around the corner right

[eternal basalt]

Next thursday

[jolly plover]

Lads, is there any info on how many/how often Strongholds appear in opsi?

[eternal basalt]

Once a week, on monday

[jolly plover]

Mondays. Noted. Thanks

[hard mesa]

what are the setups for rodney meta fight?

[ripe bluff]

does anyone know why I was given 6 ammo instead of 5

Im not using any funky equipment

in fact I dont have a tempesta to use that thing

[eternal basalt]

Hestia

[ripe bluff]

huh

[viscid swift]

reapir ships give +1 ammo

[ripe bluff]

oh

never knew that

[sweet delta]

update these with Hakuhou or Amagi
https://wiki.biligame.com/blhx/METAboss攻略要点/往期META攻略要点#罗德尼·META

Lion/Amagi or Soyuz/Nakhi: https://youtu.be/_TC2V5wLszw

Calculate reload times for yourself

[prime dome]

How/where do I get the Retrofit item for Essex?

[viscid swift]

you can't right now

[eternal basalt]

Probably return with EN anni 2026, in August 2026

[violet grail]

So the retro items in proto shop change every month? Are any of the current ones worth grabbing other than sandy's?

[eternal basalt]

They don't change

[violet grail]

Oh which shop are the limited retro items in then when they come around? just exchange shop or more like an item reward for a mission?

[atomic abyss]

rerun once as an event again as a reward
then specialised core shop eventually

[flat oak]

Does anyone know if I get safe threat level in D3, will it spawn boss from the start like in Campaign hard mode or nah

[atomic abyss]

no

[flat oak]

Aww

[clear harbor]

Is there a way to mitigate or negate Arizona Meta's fog?

[atomic abyss]

use a very fast vanguard

[clear harbor]

Ohhhhh, good call.

[atomic abyss]

this means probably no CA/CBs, pretty much DDs and CLs only

boilers too

the one place where shimakaze is still relevant

[clear harbor]

I can only imagine how annoying this fight on launch without auto-deploy.

[soft raft]

Eh it was fine as long as you could two-shot it

[clear harbor]

I cannot two shot it.

Then again, my setup might need help.

[viscid swift]

it was pretty easy to one shot on release

[clear harbor]

Were things easier back then or something?

[viscid swift]

no, things have only gotten easier, you're just using a bad set up

[soft raft]

and may not have enough fleet tech

[hushed delta]

uum, what is this? what is a "gift"?

[slow fox]

Yes sir.

If you would like a detailed breakdown of how such a skill is considered, please do ping me.

[viscid swift]

an affinity boost

[hushed delta]

using what?

[viscid swift]

a gift

they're obtained from the new island planner mode

[hushed delta]

oh ty, does it work past 100 with a vowed girl?

[viscid swift]

yes

[slow fox]

-# ya boi forgot about reload
-# because he was using an outdated spreadsheet
-# this one is more accurate

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[analog tendon]

Hello, completely new player here. I've read i should upgrade low tier Tech Packs to T3. Should i do the same for Skill Books?

[sweet delta]

in the beginning no, because you'll run out of skill books

[vale spindle]

why are some of them gray

[pallid wind]

is there like a guide somehwre to help with what i should buy cause ive been playing for a week and i have so much shit i dont know in my depot

[soft raft]

there's some bot commands you can do in #bot-spam that cover the protocore and core data shops

other than that, you'd mostly just ask here because there's not that many shops nor do most of them have much in the way of actually worthwhile stuff that would justify making a whole guide, esp when they can often be summarized in a single sentence

[soft raft]

Also if you havent alread, give this a read, lots of helpful stuff in there
https://www.azurlaneecgc.com/newbie_tips/

[pallid wind]

preciate it twin

oh god i didnt even know you could combine boxes and ive been opening t1's 😭

[atomic solstice]

any obvious improvements I can make to my opsi bb fleet?

idk why sandys augment isnt in the fleetbuilder

[viscid swift]

that's because you're using the old outdated one

[atomic solstice]

zamn

[tidal dust]

so am i just supposed to be farming w9 until i get gear and a second fleet? and where do i get the gear lab stuff, some of the items that it says for me to work toward aren't showing up? like do i need to reach a certain level in OPSI? or just get lucky with a later world drop or what? I have 1 fleet at all 100 now

[viscid swift]

more or less yes

and material drops in OpSi are rng

[sweet delta]

/fleettool

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Tool for the compact sharing of fleets and their gear by renhex

[viscid swift]

you need to do everything to reliably get what you need

[sweet delta]

Assuming those are among your best ships, nothing much besides putting Kron in the non-BBs fleet

[tidal dust]

at what point does oil stop becoming a problem?

[stark quiver]

When you quit the game

[atomic solstice]

lmao

[slow fox]

"Mebot where is Illustrious"
"Mebot add Centaur and sister"
"Mebot is Chen Hai still top"

[tidal dust]

should i be running unicorn in the main fleet or should i work toward moving her to a second fleet?

[atomic solstice]

keep leveling her

[haughty hound]

Could tashkents summon proc the spd debuff required for admiral nakhimov? And does the augment extend the duration of the summon to 100s or is the 50s on the wiki already the augment duration?

[tidal dust]

for research i understand there is a tier guide for it, ive seen it, is there an easier way to figure out which ones are which tier other than memorizing the list? also is the pull random or do you get better ones as you work through OPSI

[haughty hound]

Then for the more painful question... I understand I missed the essex retrofit material recently, how often do these mats rerun?

[ivory pawn]

Just go Q > G > D > refresh/fastest/cheapest. Your options are always random and can only be focused via choosing a Season to focus.

If you're reading the names, it's Rigging > Grant > Shipgirl Pic.

[viscid swift]

You'll be waiting until August next year for it to rerun

[stark quiver]

Hi gph

[silk helm]

hi gph

[tidal dust]

Does corruption level have a effect of the quality the materials

[twilit wren]

how good are chapayev and ryu lion? they seem to stand out among the light cruisers i have

[vale spindle]

generally higher = more drop chances
not necessarily quality iirc

[vale spindle]

Both are in the upper echelon so makes sense they are among the best of the gold cls

[silent hearth]

Is it worth Limit Breaking my U-37 (sub)? i only have enough Gold Bullins to limit break her then im out. im currently focusing on building up a few PR ships and getting tech/tech points. I dont have any gold ships atm that im focusing on (outside of PR ships)

[topaz smelt]

you can pretty much ignore subs completely until you have 4 established opsi fleets

or trying to push w14+

[silent hearth]

my main sub fleet is I-404, U-37 and Archer. (Archer is MLB) though if i MLB U-37 ill change archer out for U-101 so i get at least a partial wolfpack.

Ok so just hold off on subs then, got it. I barely got S on lvl 95 Supply Line so i dont really need them for that at least.

that and i dont really have any good stuff for subs so they are really under-developed equipment wise. i just got to the point where i can farm lvl 95 Supply Lines anyways.

[topaz smelt]

proper sub gear is going to take months to get and theyre pretty low prio

[silent hearth]

yeah i kinda figured, but its good to get confirmation. Thank you.

On another topic - After getting the 230 (or w/e) points in OPSI there is absolutely 0 benefit to getting it higher right? it doesnt give like a 0.01% increase or anything?

[rigid onyx]

is there something ur doing more than slots x avi x effeciencies / rld reduction because i get diff numbers

support fleet

are u doing jamming too or smth

[ivory pawn]

Correct, although the soft cap is 203/203/156.

[silent hearth]

mmk. Ive been doing C1 farming and have stupid high numbers now. Would be nice if it gave a tiny diminishing return or something.

Why is the BF-109G rated higher then the flapjack in the gear lab suggestions? (im aware that it doesnt have intercept) Is it a much larger damage boost VS medium/heavy then the fflapjack?

[ivory pawn]

Cause there's a worse option for Flapjacks that's not that much worse in techboxes (Hellcats) whereas for BF-109G your next best option is really not good for bossing at all.

[silent hearth]

ok so flapjacks are just bad for bossing where as the BF-109g is specifically for bosses (and im assuming not good for mobbing?)

[rain bobcat]

that's because for medium and light bosses, ur next best option is considerably worse

[warped acorn]

the event gun is surely better than purple twin 150 right

[silent hearth]

the event gun is not BiS but is pretty close to it so yes.

ok so is it better to go down this list and get the 2 suggested copies before moving on, or is it more of a situational thing? im debating if i want to get a second wyvern before getting a Ju-87 (i have the Ryusei Kai)

[rain bobcat]

go down the list of "worth" to new players and keep in mind that the suggested quantity is from ALL available sources

for example, prototype tenrai you can get 1 copy from shop and 1 from gear lab if you really want

its essentially telling you how many you should have in ur dock minmum

[stark quiver]

i forgot what i cooked up when i wrote it 💀

[rain bobcat]

[silent hearth]

yeah i got one from the protoshop already, but it feels like fighters are the part im lacking most ATM since so many ships have more fighter slots. I have several +10 Tenzan Kai +the Ryusei Kai already so torps are pretty covered. I debated getting another flapjack but im think im going to get a BF-109G. I have a 155mm Kai (and several other good CL guns now, including the event) so im good on CL. I have the 457MM twin rainbow BB gun (and a 406 MM SK C/34) so what i really need is the Mk7 i guess.

[pallid wind]

Is saving for the ship girl the move?

[silent hearth]

that being said ive been told the upgrade from Mk6 to Mk7 is not absoluetly huge. so the only decent fighter i have ATM is the single flapjack.

[ivory pawn]

Save, but don't buy her yet.

[silent hearth]

She drops from D3

[ivory pawn]

She's got a chance to drop from D3/B3/SP/Build, so maybe you'll get her before the event ends. Only need one copy.

[viscid swift]

fighters in mobbing/campaign are you least gain going from Hellcat to Flapjack

[pallid wind]

whats the " D3/B3/SP/Build"

[silent hearth]

i only have 1 hellcat (gold) and 1 flapjack. My weakest point in CVs right now are fighters.

[silent hearth]

the event sorties

[ivory pawn]

First three are event stages, Build is the gacha/pulls.

[viscid swift]

you know the Purple F4u Corsairs carry the same bombs as the hellcats right?

[rain bobcat]

^

[pallid wind]

sorties are like drops from the stages?

[rain bobcat]

only difference is avi as a small dmg incr

[silent hearth]

i havnt looked at the exact stats, but ive been told they were the best after hellcat so i invested a bit into them. So what do you guys suggest then? MK7? another Wyvern? Bf-109G?

[soft raft]

??
Sorties are runs of the stage

[silent hearth]

sorties are the fights. look at the picture i sent for the event page and look at the names

[viscid swift]

I wrote the bulk of the gear lab guide so it's thoughts and ratings reflect mine

[pallid wind]

my fault but sorties and stages are the same thing??

[stark quiver]

stages is the stage
sortie is when you battle in the stage

[stark quiver]

dont do mk7 since you are noob

[silent hearth]

uh...so what would you suggest? Another copy of the wyvern then since its at the top?

[stark quiver]

saving is a good choice

[rain bobcat]

save

you dont really need many things from gear lab early on

[stark quiver]

are you struggling in anything

[rain bobcat]

w13 was long finished before gear lab even came out

[silent hearth]

mostly bosses. the META fight for example usually takes 3-4 fights. I could probably get Harbiter down to 50% and most. im not pushing campaign past 13 atm so i might have issues on 14 but not going to worry about it yet.

[pallid wind]

OOH its just slang then no?

[stark quiver]

sure?

[silent hearth]

i have pretty decent mobbing ships (lots of my best ships are strong on torps) so mobbing isnt a big deal yet, but its not as if it cant be improved.

[rain bobcat]

harbiter is just composition check

just have enough gear to gear 3 BB at once and 3 CV then switch gears around

you dont need to have gear on everyone in opsi you can change gears at any point

[silent hearth]

thats not something i can really work towards anymore then what im currently doing (leveling ships) and im waiting on events and whatnot to get some of the more premium ships. the only area i can actively work on is gearing (which is a sloooooow grind)

So i guess just a bit of a waiting game atm.

[viscid swift]

it's up to you and what you're trying to tackle/priortize honestley

there's a reason I broke it down into multiple categories

[sweet delta]

I want to prioritize the date a live collab

[silent hearth]

Then i guess Ju-87 then the BF-109G?

[viscid swift]

sure

[sweet delta]

You have Ryusei and Ryusei Kai, a bfg over hellcat would be far more impactful

This month and next month arbiters are L and M

[viscid swift]

don't think there's much mat overlap either way

[silent hearth]

you know ive given a pretty good list of what i have and what my needs are. just saying 'hey i built this guide, whats on there is my thoughts' then when i ask specific questions and you get impatient is the reason i said what i said last night. if you dont feel like giving more indepth help then 'whatever you might need' then please dont bother.

[silent hearth]

thank you, thats what i was wondering.

[viscid swift]

I'm not trying to be obtuse about this.

But this is very much a situation where if I were to commit to an answer, I'd to know all of what gear you have, what materials you have, what fleets you have, what your goals are etc to give you a concrete answer.

And as you can imagine giving me all of that is really tedious.

[stark quiver]

it is yea

[silent hearth]

without going into litterally every detail i gave a pretty good idea of what i had and what my needs were. i asked a specific question which sushi answered pretty simply. your 'sure' felt pretty dismissive.

[viscid swift]

I'm not trying to be dismissive, I'm being non commital

[sweet delta]

That seems like a stretch

[viscid swift]

because it could very well be the right choice or it could be terrible

without more info I don't feel comfortable giving a decisive yes or no

the sure means it seems you have thought things through and on the surface it isn't bad choice

[stark quiver]

i mean tbf stig said it was impactful or not, and not about worth

[silent hearth]

alright guys. im just a bit worn out and i appreciate the feedback. Thank you to everyone who gave me info. it helps me to get a better grasp on the game a lot.

[stark quiver]

i hate this game too

[viscid swift]

I mean like just for example

Bf-109Gs could be a could choice if you have strong CVs to use the on

[spice phoenix]

for tech, what’s the priority for fp and trp? (for example: cl fp < dd fp < ca fp)
*specifically vanguard

[viscid swift]

but if your strongest single target ships are all BBs

then well

[stark quiver]

DD fp is important because top meta has many DD

[viscid swift]

cruiser EVA first, then Firepower tech as whole

[stark quiver]

but feel free to mix and match, dont run a full fleet of DDs

i personally wont do cruiser eva

[sweet delta]

@slow fox collect the evidence

[silent hearth]

i think i have a decent spread of bossing and mob CVs, i could use a bit more BB spread but im working on PR (and hopefully DR soon)

[viscid swift]

eh

[silent hearth]

decent, not good or great ;P

[viscid swift]

the way I see it is you have maybe 4 good bossing ships ready to go

NJ, Oumi, Enterprise, Hakuhou

[rain vine]

the current meta showdown is more of a vanguard check, if anything

[viscid swift]

also if you just wanna here what I think if you wanna focus on single target from the gear lab

Mk7 is a medicore choice and rated B for new players because it's only 10% better damage and slower to reload than the Mk6 assuming both are +10

[silent hearth]

yeah i just got Shimanto but shes going to take a while to get her skills up. I was thinking she will be decent for dmg, slow and the burn dmg reduction (doesnt extinguish since its a special fire) With Ibuki and Harbin. im using Anchorage ATM with the other 2

[viscid swift]

what slow

[silent hearth]

at inflicts a special Flooding ailment to enemies hit for 6s; when this barrage activates:

Flooding right

[rain bobcat]

shimanto doesn't slow and what ur missing the most for this rotation is eva rate debuffers

[viscid swift]

flooding doesn't slow a ship down

it's just a DOT

[silent hearth]

oh. I thought flooding was a slow debuff

[stark quiver]

maybe in irl it was

[viscid swift]

and Ibuki's damage against light is really balls

[limpid moon]

sounds stupid but should i be retiring all ships below elite since ive kept 1 copy of all my obtained rare ships so far and i doubt ill ever use them

[viscid swift]

you will eventually level some if not all of them for stat bonuses at level 120

[bleak skiff]

If I'm coining PR/DR ships should I go for fate sim or is dev lvl 30 enough

[silent hearth]

I thought Saratoga (retro) had a slow? I thought i read that somewhere. I dont see it mentioned in her skills so my brain must have just figured that flooding was the slow debuff.

[stark quiver]

which ship

[bleak skiff]

hakuryuu, agir fdg etc

[viscid swift]

if you want a slow get Ark Royal leveled up

[stark quiver]

hakuryuu fs5 gives +18% more damage
but shes worse than amagi cv and hakuhou at her role

agir doesnt have a fs5

fdg fs5 is good if you use her

[sweet delta]

If you want a slow, start wanting a freeze instead

[limpid moon]

ik theres buffs at certain levels but at least for me rn, im not anywhere close to needing to level rare ships so im unsure do i just keep em or retire

[viscid swift]

I personally keep a copy of every ship

[bleak skiff]

I can only coin up to series 4 right?

[viscid swift]

and just buy more dock space but if you're really pushed feel free to retire ships you can easily reobtain

[stark quiver]

ok big dock space person

[viscid swift]

emphasis on the latter part

[limpid moon]

yeah thats what ive done so far except for commons

[viscid swift]

and the PR5 PRs

[stark quiver]

i accidentally leveled ning hai to 90 💀

[bleak skiff]

Between Odin, Agir, FDG, who should I coin to dev 30? (They're all I have rn that aren't dev 30 already)

[viscid swift]

FDG if you lack UR BBs, otherwise Agir

[stark quiver]

agir if you lack tanks
fdg is you lack UR battleships and oumi

neither if you lack nothing

[bleak skiff]

These are all my URs rn

[limpid moon]

also, rocket planes is best for light armor right

[silent hearth]

hmm...i guess i got ships mixed up then. I thought Saratoga had the slow, but it was Ark Royal. Is Ark worth investing into? Or would it be better to wait until i have AvP?

[stark quiver]

fdg seems good to dev30

[stark quiver]

yes for cvs
specifically the hvar hellcat

[viscid swift]

FDG

[limpid moon]

still avaliable?

[silent hearth]

hvar hellcat is a event plane isnt it?

[bleak skiff]

does she have fate sim? or just dev 30 is enough

[stark quiver]

no its not available amymore for now
yes its an event drop

[limpid moon]

damn, which event was it

[stark quiver]

yorktown 2 event which already ran and reran

[silent hearth]

Parallel Superimposition

[bleak skiff]

Whos the next UR rerun?

[viscid swift]

yes and I would FS5 FDG before moving onto Agir

[viscid swift]

Unzen

[limpid moon]

not sure how i missed the plane cos i grabbed york2 on her first run

[bleak skiff]

Alr thanks, and should she slot onto my boss fleet replacing UVH or mob vanguard

[stark quiver]

if you dont have it, dont bother with cv antilight

[viscid swift]

mobbing

[silent hearth]

do you think i should build up Ark Royal (and get her Retro) or should i wait a bit to get august von Parseval?

[viscid swift]

I would get Ark Royal up

[limpid moon]

what other antilight is there

[silent hearth]

gotcha, will do.

[stark quiver]

BB

[rain bobcat]

BB

[stark quiver]

and bbs take much less investment to be good

[limpid moon]

he guns right

[stark quiver]

yah
406 mk6

[limpid moon]

aight thanks

[silent hearth]

why do i suspect that increasing my dock space +400 wont matter in another week. every time i increase it i have to do it again in another week >.<

there has to be a limit T.T

[limpid moon]

real

[stark quiver]

i agree

[rain bobcat]

if ur keeping even commons

then 700 would be minimum

[stark quiver]

i have 200 commons at all times

[limpid moon]

i wish i had that muchdock

[silent hearth]

well i think i should be good then, just bumped it upto 1000 (i was at 600 and auto-retire didnt clear up any room) so i just closed my eyes and pressed the button until it was at 1000. slightly sick now but wurf.

[stark quiver]

you risked upping your depot to 700

[limpid moon]

i have enough for 100 dock atm but the new skins look real nice

[silent hearth]

seriously though, there has to be a limit though to this none-sense right? theres only so many ships in the damn game.

[pallid wind]

There is no other purpose for the blue card right I should use all on this banner

[stark quiver]

3020 is dock limit i think

[jolly plover]

Just for this banner, yes

[eternal moth]

It's strictly for pulling on this banner

[silent hearth]

yeah thats not happening anytime soon XD would be nice though!

[stark quiver]

yes pull 3 times a day with blue and then dump all last day

[silent hearth]

so what did you mean 'risk'?

[stark quiver]

in the unfortunate event that you accidentally click depot instead of dock

[silent hearth]

oh that would be hilarious.

[icy sphinx]

Blue card only works in the event you got it until it emds

[humble tapir]

is there any way to limit what ships the game automatically picks for commissions?

[silent hearth]

i believe it will only pick ships that are locked, but im unsure of how it prioritizes them.

[jolly plover]

^ one thing I know for sure is that they only pick ships above level 1. Locked or not.

[silent hearth]

that is good to know...i might need to go through and bump a few ships up to level 2 then to get them to start cycling through.

[jolly plover]

Yeah, I had to do that for a few girls. XD

[humble tapir]

i see, im asking cz it keeps picking the same level 65+ lb0 sr ships and i kinda want it to pick the lower level ones so it levels them up slowly

[silent hearth]

well i think Gamma probably just answered that. you might need to either pick them manually or go through and bump a few up to level 2+ (just use a single blue exp book)

[humble tapir]

will try that thanx guys

[jolly plover]

[silent hearth]

1 blue EXP book on a common gives it +7 lvls BTW

[jolly plover]

Yeah. A little bit more and you can do first LB too.

[eternal moth]

Auto comm selection will only choose ships that are >level 1.

[jolly plover]

Girls leveled up sheerly out of commisions. Guess it follows a pattern.

[silent hearth]

hey im curious: When you do auto-enhance will it ignore the rule you have set in the auto-retire (dont retire copies unless you have more copies then you need for MLB)?

[eternal moth]

You shouldn't be using anything other than greys to enhance ships, so it doens't really matter. I don't think it ignores dupes though.

[jolly plover]

Probably won't take long to get another copy of the Gray ship anyways.

[plain saffron]

i don't think it follow rules but now i'm curious

[silent hearth]

yeah it wont auto-pick anything other then greys/commons. i have it set in auto-retire that i want to keep enough dupes to MLB but im not sure if it will just ignore that in the auto-enhance.

[jolly plover]

I'm out of fodder to test it rn.
Am curious too. XD

[eternal moth]

All of my commons are MLB, so I can't test

[silent hearth]

ill test it... i need 3 copies of her to get MLB so lets see if it uses more then 1 copy when im doing this.

confirmed, it does ignore it.

[jolly plover]

Welp. Case closed. Good question tho. Had no idea.

[viscid swift]

Stick the ships you don't want selected into campaign hard node fleets

However, commissions by default select the lowest level ships that qualify

[eternal moth]

Lowest ship with any XP*

[silent hearth]

oh ok, so it will pull from the lowest and work its' way up (as long as its above level 1)

[viscid swift]

Yes

[fresh tangle]

BT Detachments: I’m torn between wrathful procession vehemence… thoughts?

[viscid swift]

And this is what you can get away with years worth of commission XP

[eternal moth]

Is that Black Templar detachments? Because if so you're in the wrong channel

[viscid swift]

Huh

[fresh tangle]

Whoops 😂

[jolly plover]

Slipped.

[silent hearth]

ok one last question for a while. Im pretty sure i know the answer (No and No) But i cant find any definitive answer on the wiki or google. For context i am level 97.

Is there anyway to speed up the research speed (or any any features that can be unlocked related to research).

And is 4 commissions the max that can be done at the same time, is there anyway to expand this or is it forever stuck at 4?

[wind hazel]

no, no

[soft raft]

Nope

it is stuck at 4
tho iirc, there are extremely rare instances where special extra comm slots are avaliable. iirc this happened with the To Love Ru! collab but I could be wrong since I never really gave a fuck about those

[jolly plover]

Yeah, no new unlocks for either.

[flat oak]

Are metas even worth leveling? Can't even retire their asses

[soft raft]

Some have good fleet tech
Also be glad that they no longer take up actual dock space

[silent hearth]

some METAs are, but they dont take up dock space so you dont need to shrug

[jolly plover]

@soft raft yeah, there are special occasions with special missions for tokens.

[flat oak]

They don't? Oh that's good

[viscid swift]

it definitely happened during the Idolmaster collab but those were only for the special commissions during the event

[soft raft]

they havent for quite some time now yeah

[silent hearth]

Yeah i figured about the commissions and research, but i figured it wouldnt hurt to check. Thank you all.

[soft raft]

God i keep forgetting that collab was even a thing lol
didnt even know they had special comms back then tf

[silent hearth]

which means if you have a bunch of the META currency go to the shop and go ham!

[jolly plover]

They used to occupy dock space tho. Rough days for F2P

[viscid swift]

hardly

when they made the change there were only around 30 META ships

[silent hearth]

have META dupes always been a item or were they ships b4?

[inner delta]

item

[jolly plover]

Thankfully.

[silent hearth]

@flat oak just keep in mind that most (if not all) of the ships you can buy in the META are ass and you only need the tech from them. the META ships you get from the fights are a higher 'tier' and some of them are actually useable. i havnt found a META tier list though so i have 0 ideas which ones (beyond that the current META fight Yuudachi is decent) you can see that the ones from the shop have 5 stars, but Yuudachi for instance has 6.

[viscid swift]

pretty much follows the usual new ship trend

elites are ass, golds range from mid to solid and on the rare occasion meta

[flat oak]

Welp I'll just not bother then

[silent hearth]

also META doesnt follow the same tech points as their original. idk if META have their own tech point tree or w/e. (tech still applies though)

[jolly plover]

They don't

[wind hazel]

they dont give faction tech, but they give ship tech

[viscid swift]

they do give tech points, for the META faction

[jolly plover]

Wish Yuudachi META was stronger...

[silent hearth]

ah ok. is there any use for the META faction tech points though?

[slow fox]

Allow me to get back to you in 2 hours

I use Purple FW and Baguette, which have separate intercept numbers

And consider the weapons on each plane independently

[viscid swift]

shes literally better than normal Yuudachi

[jolly plover]

Retro?

[viscid swift]

yes

[jolly plover]

Odd. From my experience she felt so underwhelming.

[soft raft]

No
unless they decide to do a funny and either add in more factions to the tech bonus upgrades thingy or do the even more funny thing and add a META ship to research

[stark quiver]

are both maxed

[silent hearth]

i think shes more boss orientated then mob. I got scalded the other night for suggesting Yuudachi retro the other night 😢

[jolly plover]

META at 122. Retro at 125. Decent gear on both.

[viscid swift]

have you got her maxed? also Yuddachi retro by 2025 standards is a subpar ship

[stark quiver]

understandable

[stark quiver]

i very much understand that

[jolly plover]

Guess they need to give her an Aug like they did with Sandy and Warspite.

Even if it won't do much

[silent hearth]

idk, some augs seem to make a world of difference...

[slow fox]

I was just listening to Suchicommands. Am bot pls no ban

[jolly plover]

Tru

[slow fox]

In fact I don't even focus cruiser EVA lol

I've just been 120'ing ships willynilly

[viscid swift]

Judge my Kisaragi gear

[silent hearth]

personally i like the wolf-pup asthetic. its cute like a puppy barking type of way.

[rapid shard]

No rainbow aug 3/10

[jolly plover]

Level 1 skills. Poser.

[late flame]

not oathed for more stats

[silent hearth]

not lvl 125.

[slow fox]

I wonder if a Kisaragi in your fleet would be happier than a Kisaragi in my fleet. She would appreciate the rainbow but die much more. Curious. 7/10 eHP destroyed

[viscid swift]

well Vestal is my babysitter

haven't even seen her drop below 50% HP in 12-1 farming

[slow fox]

Rate my Kisaragi build

[viscid swift]

3/6

[jolly plover]

Now that's a 10/10.

[viscid swift]

torps and 2 auxes are good

the main gun, AA gun, and augment could be better

[slow fox]

Denied

augment gives EVA

[rapid shard]

Speaking of gear setups. What would be next improvements for these two?

[wind hazel]

better torp, stronger AA gun, +13

[eternal moth]

NJ's fine as is, maybe better torps on Sandy, but she doesn't need them. Rainbow AA gun on Sandy

[rapid shard]

Shes supposed to have quad mags not quints

[jolly plover]

Maybe a rainbow AA for Sandy? That's all I can think of.

[rapid shard]

How much a jump would the frog gun be compared the next best gold one? I can make the sextuple right now

[eternal moth]

Oh yeah, +13 radar and white shell on NJ, unless you want to give her a gaming table.

[rapid shard]

Sadly I dont have the gaming table. Praying they add it to the shop at some point in next couple years lol

[wind hazel]

76 will improve on the range and rld time, but sex has slightly higher alpha. it's hard to say whether it will be improvement or not since aa is averaged out, so kinda need to consider the other aa gun, not just between these 2

[rapid shard]

BBs are all running stag with rest of vanguard running roombas. 1BB 2CV fleet setup. Uni has a Haze or stagg right now

[wind hazel]

what content

[rapid shard]

W13 farming and bout to push 14 when weekly reset hits

[wind hazel]

then it doesn't matter that much, no need minmax to the wazoo. roomba still work

[stark quiver]

Does this ranger build look ok

[wind hazel]

passable

[jolly plover]

Staying on topic, is that little first plane (sorry, forgot its name) really good? Seen it around a little but it looks so unassuming.

[eternal moth]

It's ok, typically used for timing.

[wind hazel]

it's the fastest among the converging tb commonly used

[eternal moth]

If you're using Ranger for campaign or mobbing, I'd rather give her a Wyvern

[jolly plover]

Hm. Makes sense then.

[stark quiver]

no im spending the next 4 days malding rng

[rapid shard]

With BB aux for bossing like the META fights and EX stages. Would a +9 crossbow or +10 sword be better? Ive seen both in testing vids. Light/medium specifically.

[wind hazel]

depends whether you need the hit or not

[eternal moth]

Just take the +10 sword

[rapid shard]

NJ with Hakuhou and Enty for EX and NJ Oumi Spoot for current META

[stark quiver]

crossbow is better in meta fights if youre lucky, which is kinda the whole thing about it

[wind hazel]

again depends whether you need the hit or not

[weary edge]

should i research agir or hindenburg after fdg

[eternal moth]

Agir

[slow fox]

-# based

[unreal star]

in some youtube videos i see manual players precisely controlling their vanguard, but mine tends to “drift” on its own and i have to pull them back slowly. is this an aux steering equipment issue or something else? i’m on iOS if that matters.

[eternal moth]

I'd guess skill issue, but not sure.

[sweet delta]

do you have a video of your drift