gameplay-help

[grave mantle]

That's one of the reasons why most common advice to spend gems is dock space

[knotty jolt]

once you get the tech there's no reason to keep them, they'll just take up space

[bold peak]

Mostly just rare ships for me, elites might get retro and become op

[azure coyote]

I have a friend that's been playing this game for years and he still only has 150 dock space

[grave mantle]

I'm scrapping/using for upgrades everything that is not elite or higher, though I do keep some if I need them

[red sapphire]

Now that I finished mlb Hakuhou is It ok if I go for Trafalgar?

[bold peak]

You do want some for uh memento (to gt items) but after that you may scrap them

[knotty jolt]

traf is good option next

[rapid shard]

Traf is a great support for Lion

[rain bobcat]

fleet power

I like having enough dock for all ships+100 extra

[bold peak]

I'm still trigered by traf as a dd

[azure coyote]

Btw what do the memento items do?

[bold peak]

I always thought her of Bb

[knotty jolt]

I'm a fleet power gamer but even ik for people who don't have 900 dock space like me, keeping useless ships ain't worth it

[red sapphire]

Alright. I go for Trafalgar thanks for confirming

[bold peak]

The essex one give you basically the repair team with invincibility upon death for a few seconds

[viscid swift]

That's all your URs?

[red sapphire]

Yes

[grave mantle]

The devs are slowly using more developed bodies for everybody

[viscid swift]

Would have gone Trafalgar and Bismarck before Hakuhou

And Bismarck before Trafalgar

[grave mantle]

Is biszwei stronger than fdg or uvh?

[viscid swift]

Yes

[rapid shard]

UvH is one of the weakest URs right?

[azure coyote]

And do I just keep my E and SR bulins in my dock for no reason later?

[grave mantle]

I've always missed the biszwei event by not playing AL at that time

[red sapphire]

Yes... I know that's the correct order but I limit breaked haku twice so I was recommended to finish... Rookie mistake...

[bold peak]

Idk but I quite like her HE spam, I don't have lion so can't say whose better

[rapid shard]

UvH cant compare to Lion

[rain bobcat]

buff for zwei+crossfleet so shes fine crossfleet if you use zwei

[bold peak]

You'll need it for retro and etc.

[azure coyote]

Wish I knew that before I mlb her

[viscid swift]

Lion is the strongest BB in the game

[bold peak]

Damn I miss her banner

[viscid swift]

She easily does better than more recent UR BBs let alone ancient UvH

[rain bobcat]

cheeky whats the universal BB fleet now lion alsace meck? or some zwei or zwei+meck combo

[viscid swift]

Lion, Mecklenburg, Alsace assuming the boss doesn't move too much

[rapid shard]

Did you use Rainbow Bulins to MLB her?

[viscid swift]

And not light armor

[grave mantle]

nevada+tennessee+california

[azure coyote]

For the final one yes but only one cause I already had a copy

[red sapphire]

It's ok to mlb Trafalgar before Zwei?

[viscid swift]

I wouldn't

[rapid shard]

Never use rainbow bulins on permanent URs. Save those for limited ones

[bold peak]

Is it bad that Idk which girls is that but i know the real ship instead especially Tennessee

[azure coyote]

Alright

[rapid shard]

Permanents have been hard powercrept and you'll get dupes over time. Limited ones are way higher value and you only get 2-2.5 Rainbow bulins a month

[grave mantle]

They are "common" (grey) quality ships, no wonder you don't recognise them

[rain bobcat]

for heavy is it lion zwei meck with alsace soyuz uvh crossfleet

[peak fable]

what map do you guys farm for cog chips?

[bold peak]

At least they're special in my heart

[red sapphire]

I say it because I'm using Trafalgar with Lion and don't have Mecklen to pair with Zwei yet... Also gear crafting would be for the IJN fleet... I feel a bit overwelmed if I have to focus on Zwei right now...

[knotty jolt]

tennesse and cali are blue rarities

[grave mantle]

Ugh, forgot. Still never used by non-newbies

[stark quiver]

why do you need meck to pair with zwei

[knotty jolt]

zwei black hole is a pulling effect for meckle's skill 1 secondary effect

[rapid shard]

Thought that was bugged?

[azure coyote]

We should ask the devs for tips and see if they play their own game or not

[red sapphire]

It's not that is needed, isn't she top combo for Zwei?

[knotty jolt]

[stark quiver]

yes but that wouldnt put vanguard support ship over a whole damage UR backline

[azure coyote]

Do exercises reduce happiness?

[knotty jolt]

I mean they have enough UR backline options like musashi lion shinano haku and essex

[hollow gust]

zwei is literally top 2bb, you will almost always use her mecklenburg or not

[bold peak]

Don't think so?

[red sapphire]

I feel like going for Zwei fleet right now, considering I don't even have a proper boss fleet, it's a bit overwelming... But if I should I will...

I go for Zwei then, Trafalgar can wait a bit longer

[azure coyote]

I have 5k special cores and 180 cubes right now do you think I can mlb sovetski the first day of her rerun?

[rain bobcat]

ok definitely not top 2 because she doesn't have a debuff for the team

[bold peak]

Nah

[rapid shard]

Plenty of time for her

[rain bobcat]

but im thinking that having alsace soyuz uvh on crossfleet with lion zwei meck would be the best BB comp for heavy

[bold peak]

90 pulls, so probably 1-3 copy

[rain bobcat]

alsace is definitely without a doubt better than zwei

[hollow gust]

[bold peak]

In what way?

[rain bobcat]

zwei doesn't have debuff and is only more consistent because she can land all of her shots easily

[azure coyote]

90 pulls and 1-3 copies 😭

[hollow gust]

End game is all about the consistency

[rain bobcat]

alsace literally has the same basically the dmg as zwei+debuffs

[rapid shard]

You've got 3-4 months before predicted rerun if they follow normal schedule. You'll build ip plenty of cubes and rainbow bulins

[red sapphire]

How much time do you think It takes to mlb an ur?

Average

[hollow gust]

A minute

[rain bobcat]

well the guarantee+average from 0 is 2 months lol

[rapid shard]

2-2.5 bulins a month so if your smart and not having to MLB old ones. Shouldn't take long

[red sapphire]

Hmm okay... Will take a while to mlb those URs

[rain bobcat]

soyuz wont rerun for a little while, there's unzen guam before soyuz

probably minimum Q2 2026

[azure coyote]

Alright

[bold peak]

Thank god some time to catch up

Just need to build some ur bullin for alsace and then prepare soyuz

[rapid shard]

Unzen is soonish then Dec UR as well

Plus Guam rerun before that

[bold peak]

Already got unzen max so I'm skipping her

[bold peak]

Same as Guam

Just need soyuz

[viscid swift]

you don't need Mecklenburg to pair with Zwei for Zwei to be valuable

[bold peak]

Is amagi cv good for shinano, hakuhou?

[viscid swift]

you pick 2 of the 3 usually if at all

[bold peak]

So I don't really need amagi cv?

[red sapphire]

Alright... Thanks

[peak fable]

is spending core data on cog chips a waste?

[viscid swift]

well we haven't had a relevant heavy armor boss yet to test which is optimal

[viscid swift]

not after you've gotten what you needed from the core data shop

[bold peak]

Wait yuudachi retro is bad why? Is it her torp -1 thingy?

[peak fable]

well I kinda need everything and nothing at the same time. Got the BB Auxes, don't have any mats to retrofit independence, technically could need all of the gear, but not really necessary. So I guess I'm getting those cog chips.

[viscid swift]

"difficult" to get, and kinda mid performance by 2025 standards

[rain bobcat]

mid performance especially when yuudachi meta is literally better than her

[weary edge]

where would you put ryu this last

[viscid swift]

I wouldn't

[rain bobcat]

nowhere

[weary edge]

😭😭

[bold peak]

Off chart

[weary edge]

i thought she was decent

[viscid swift]

I'm only doing this for URs and ships I'd consider using as a late/end game player in late/end game content

[dark hazel]

Sr don't go in the Ur list

[rapid shard]

For starting she is

[rain bobcat]

decent doesn't mean good for late game

[weary edge]

im nowhere near end game so im gonna keep using her

[red sapphire]

Who's a good tank for a fleet that is Hakuhou/Shinano/Peter Strasser, Tank/Kazagumo/Helena?

[bold peak]

Waiting for yuudachi augmentation..

[sand igloo]

how to prevent suicide bomber ships without widespread area attacks?

[bold peak]

Bb with secondary or for meme, odin

[viscid swift]

use a BB equipped with a good aux gun

[sand igloo]

my torps reload too slow

[weary gust]

Why is strasser in that fleet

[red sapphire]

Slow support

[sand igloo]

alr ty all

[bold peak]

Guam

[viscid swift]

already exists, called Yuudachi META

[bold peak]

Can't a dog dream for heaven

[vital cloak]

is this what im doing a good thing?

[red sapphire]

Sadly don't have

[rain bobcat]

she doesn't work

[bold peak]

Yesnt

[bold peak]

With her aug, kinda?

[rapid shard]

Focus catchup on what ship your researching

[red sapphire]

Oh, really? Her augment buff that

[rain bobcat]

strasser is quite an embarassment as a slow support since even with her stop she still causes torps to miss quite consistently

[vital cloak]

it's just this one, i think

[red sapphire]

Oh I see... What can I use instead until I get AvP?

[rain bobcat]

just wait until you get avp

[rapid shard]

On left side you can select which to focus

[bold peak]

Actually question on that, I've already dev 30 her, should I pursue her fate simulation as well?

[red sapphire]

I go without slow until then?

[bold peak]

What's avp?

[rain bobcat]

well for one even if ur doing opsi there's still 15 days left so no need to rush

[vital cloak]

man, why are you saying for me? im a new player

[rapid shard]

August von peraseval or however you spell it

[bold peak]

No i mean for other players, I'm newish old noob as well

[rain bobcat]

/guide

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Guides to Azur Lane

If you're not sure where to start or how to optimize something, try checking this out!
🔹 English Community Guide Compendium by samheart564

Contains a list of guides about key Azur Lane gameplay mechanics, including:

• Newbie Tips
• Common Resource Guide
• Research Guide
  and more!

If you are an older player aiming to push endgame content, you can check these out instead!
🔹 META Chronicles by pilica12
🔹 Suchiguma Azur Lane Guides by suchiguma

Contains a list of endgame oriented guides and deeper dives into gameplay mechanics, including:

• Chapter 14 and 15
• Challenge Mode
  and more!

Here are some other useful commands:
Use /tierlist and /equip for a ship and equipment tier lists
Use /tags for a full list of things I can help you with

[rain bobcat]

read the suchiguma guide and go to the research section

[vital cloak]

i see

[red sapphire]

Okay

[vital cloak]

and how do i progress this? do i need to progress the story to progress the research?

[rapid shard]

When complete a research project you'll get bonus BPs for that ship

[vital cloak]

i see, but it will progress automaticly?

oh, nvm i think im dumb

it's this one, right?

[red sapphire]

Not as much as me

[vital cloak]

oh ho, you sure?

[rapid shard]

Change focus to PR8 btw

[vital cloak]

ok

[rapid shard]

Make sure you actually doing the research projects too. They will get you gear and ship BPs

[bold peak]

Which one? I only find the deep research one..

[rapid shard]

Guide on how to pick them ^^

[vital cloak]

ok, i'll try to remember that

[hollow gust]

im a massive 8hrD hater, grants are just better

[rapid shard]

Only pick the cube cost ones when you have 400+ cubes

[red sapphire]

Is ark royal better than Peter at slow suport?

[hollow gust]

cube one is never worth picking unless its the 0.5hs; the ony ones doing it are people who know what they are doing

[rapid shard]

Or newer players by mistake

[vital cloak]

literally me if i saw one

now i just need to wait this to end and that's it?

[rapid shard]

Need to que it

[vital cloak]

oh

[rapid shard]

You can have 6 queued at a time

[vital cloak]

ayo

[rapid shard]

Follow the picture above on how to pick them

[vital cloak]

on the guide or the pic on the research?

[rapid shard]

This one

[viscid swift]

they probably shouldn't be following that

[vital cloak]

but like, will that reset even when active after midnight?

[rain bobcat]

that picture was for veteran rushing

A newbie should use as little resources without picking outright horrible researches as possible

[vital cloak]

so.. i can pick whatever in those research?

[rapid shard]

No they dont reset. That button is to refresh your options if you get all bad picks

[vital cloak]

i see

[sand igloo]

What is this?

[rapid shard]

A trap

Dont waste medals on that

[sand igloo]

alr good thing I asked

what do I spend medals on?

[rapid shard]

Medal shop page

[sand igloo]

alr

so many currencies and systems as a newbie omg

[vital cloak]

i think im gonna choose the rainbow one

[rain bobcat]

avoid cube payments and avoid the letter C

take a rainbow face if possible

[vital cloak]

what letter C?

[rain bobcat]

outside of that, use little resources

[vital cloak]

luckily you said about cube payment, this one was with cubes, so i'll skip it

the rainbow one is just 5K coins payment

[hollow gust]

~~that one is unironically pretty awesome ~~

[vital cloak]

i think i lost the rainbow one, i queued cause i saw there's no requirement before queued, and it's not in my inventory

but got another one

oh, nvm, i just found out where they got

[quiet kiln]

My plymouth is at dev 25, do i still prioritize researching pr8 regardless?

[rain bobcat]

those ones are good but not worth the cubes when you are under 500 cubes

[rain bobcat]

have you already used catch up

[vital cloak]

yea, i thought when you said Cube payment was like i would receive, and not pay the researching to start

[quiet kiln]

Yup

[rain bobcat]

eh I mean personally I would go and do pr8

[quiet kiln]

Pr8 regardless, alr

[rain bobcat]

pr8=7(if you have soyuz)>5>6/4

you should be able to just get fs5 or atleast dev 30 on most PR ships due to catch up

ancho avp harbin and shimanto are great pickups

[forest palm]

6 is so much worse than 4, and 4 is still better than 5

[quiet kiln]

I have 1600 core data should i buy oxy torp

Don't think i need anything else from the core shop

[rain bobcat]

shells bought?

[quiet kiln]

Yes, i got like 3 of each i think

[rain bobcat]

/coredata

[odd root]

https://www.azurlaneecgc.com/images/equip_misc/Core_Data_Priority.jpeg

[rain bobcat]

buy indep then shells every month and breguet occasionally

[quiet kiln]

Don't think i need cvs, ill just buy oxy and then save up for albion exercise report since i have a lot of hms ships

[vital cloak]

do i grind this or progress the story? even tho i need to level up my new fleet ships

[sand igloo]

where is the medal shop

[weary gust]

You earn points for that by running normal chapter stages.

[vital cloak]

i see, then i'll level up my new fleet ships and then progress the chapter 4

what commander level do you guys recommend to grind Stage 3-4? after i become get my new player title removed by playing some time

[viscid swift]

after you get to chapter 12

[vital cloak]

oh, i guess im a bit far

[soft raft]

commander level has no direct correlation to what stages you should be farming
It's the ship lvl, in which it would be at mininum the same as the enemies

It's also a waste of time to farm 3-4 if you cant clear it with 2 ships because Akagi and Kaga are extremely low priority

They are not worth delaying your progression towards the actually good farming spots

[vital cloak]

i see, but i mean like, what account stage should i start grinding, cause i want to get fox wife (and by the account stage i mean like, New player, normal player and Veteran player)

[rapid shard]

W9 is the first real okay spot to grind because of Oilcap. 12-4 is where 99% of people farm in this game

[soft raft]

Everyone has their own slight variations on what they think count as new/normal/veteran

But you'd grind for the foxes when you are bored and likely have nothing better to do, which is something that's more likely for veteran/late game players

[vital cloak]

i see

[rapid shard]

Oilcap is key to effective and efficient grinding.

[soft raft]

That's not the point here
He's asking about when would be a good time to farm the fox mines

[rapid shard]

Gotcha I misread what he said. Thought he was referring to grinding in general

[haughty skiff]

get at least W9

then ideally use 2 overlevelled grey ships to farm the stage cheaply

it'd be better for you to just aim to get to W12; it's considered the best general farming world and will be the best place to farm PR EXP

[lost shadow]

what does it means by phase 5, 10 and 15?

[rain bobcat]

weekly mission...

[vital cloak]

i'll try

[haughty skiff]

just the weekly missions basically

[grizzled mortar]

does doing later stages on hard give a higher chance of gold retros or is it just the guaranteed ones from clearing a new stage

[quiet kiln]

Can i stack albion exercise report with gold rudder on my hms vanguards?

[lost shadow]

oh thats new to me, thanks

[haughty skiff]

the odds don't increase; you only get guaranteed gold retrofit blueprints from 3 starring any hardmode stage from chapter 3 and onwards

[haughty skiff]

You can equip both on vanguards, yeah; washing machine (rudder) doesn't effect evasion rate in the same way as albion's report, it just enables a ship to evade all attacks for 2 seconds if triggered

[pseudo ether]

how many days of inactivity until i get the returnee event?

[vital cloak]

can i use light carrier and carrier as a Anti-air or what type of ship can i use as a anti-air, i forgot

[vale spindle]

You can use carriers with good fighters (or other slots if they have intercept) along with good vanguard aa ships

[vale spindle]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Akashi's_Homecoming_Campaign check here if not idk

[pseudo ether]

Alr

[haughty skiff]

'Anti-Air' (AA) is a stat and vanguard / battleships can equip anti-air guns
CVLs & CVs do have both a AA stat and a AVI (Aviation) stat;

• AVI effects your Air Space Control

CVLs / CVs generally have a fighter slot, fighters are planes that shoot down other planes.

[vital cloak]

i see, for now this is my unicorn, pennsylvania and joffre, even tho idk how to build and have a little gears to put on them

[haughty skiff]

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide/

[sand igloo]

do I use universal bulin to limit break?

for Helena

[haughty skiff]

If you lack copies, yeah; just don't waste gold bulins as most gold ships aren't worth investing into

[sand igloo]

ok so do I use the purple ones as much as possible?

[vale spindle]

for ships you frequently use yes use the bulins

For Helena you can get copies easily so maybe save bulins for someone else

[haughty skiff]

You use them to MLB ships you're gonna use generally as a newbie, you dont want to use them for the sake of it.

You can purchase copies of ships from the Guild shop if you want to cheap-out a bit

[sand igloo]

I didn't know u could use copies to upgrade. ty

[haughty skiff]

you always use copies over bulins to MLB if you can

copies of ships have no use outside of MLB fodder

[sand igloo]

welp that's 1 MLB I'm not getting back

good thing I hve like 15 more

[haughty skiff]

purple bulins arent anything major dw lmao

but dont waste gold bulins

[sand igloo]

alr

what do u use them for? Ppl said that some purplse ships are better than most gold

[haughty skiff]

whatever needs to be MLB'd ; there's a lot of solid gold ships that eat up bulins

Enterprise, Eldridge, Sandy, Aquila, ect..

Just depends where you are in the game and what your goals are

[sand igloo]

lol I started 2 days ago

My goal is to make good progress as a F2P

I'm saving up my cubes bcuz of limited ship rolls coming in every few weeks. Idk how many cubes I need to get a decent shot at it tho

[little plinth]

what's the current strongest CV fleet for opsi bosses atm? I was thinking shinano/hakuhou/amagi but no slows...

[hushed sorrel]

around 130 for most. 400 for ur banner to be safe, but 200> is for most player enough.

[sand igloo]

alr I got 70 cubes I think I can reach 130

I do want to get a rlly good ship that will help me until the endgame but I should probably push to chapter 9 first

[haughty skiff]

imo just wait until the last day of Fool's Scales and see what you get, nothing in the event is really that noteworthy aside from the CL Gun

Painleve is a decent but she's the shop ship so you dont need to pull on the banner to get her

[sand igloo]

what is Fool's Scales?

[haughty skiff]

the upcoming rerun event on the 16th

[hushed sorrel]

just to make sure you know there is neither pity nor gurantee in a non-ur event. mean its rng

even 70 can be enough

[haughty skiff]

you always want to aim for 400 cubes for a ur banner lmao

[vital cloak]

is "limit breaking" her worth it?

[topaz smelt]

what else are you gonna do with 500 coins

[quiet kiln]

Do i prioritize champy gun over twin 457 in protocore shop?

[hushed sorrel]

not that important if his acc is 2 days old <.< powercreep chars arent needed so early on

[topaz smelt]

typically

[sand igloo]

ok so what do I do rn

[hushed sorrel]

always the daily free light pull, no standard banner pulls except that

there are some free ships you can buy with currency you own with a fresh acc. like guild coins

a few specific ones are recommended, i always forget the exact list xd

[flat oak]

Where do u get Admiralty Fire Control Table now that event ended? Wait for next event?

[sand igloo]

yeah I do those

[sand igloo]

I already got them as well as their clones for LB

[sweet delta]

https://azurlaneecgc.com/newbie_tips/

[haughty skiff]

tldr;

this is rerunning; rerun lasts a week. you get free builds by logging in and playing, so you dont actually pull until the end of the event

banner characters arent worth using cubes on imo;

you seem to already be following the newbie guide, so just keep doing that and pushing the campaign; make sure you do research and commissions.

[sand igloo]

none of those ships appear to be particularly good ngl...

[haughty skiff]

Ryu Lion is about equal to FS5 Harbin from what ive seen in here so you can toss her in instead of your starter

[hushed sorrel]

if you got the basics with the newbie tips then you most likely start to challenging the chapters and learn about new mode once they unlock. pulling or not pulling in event banner is in my own opinion not that dramatic. every single ship will reappear (except collabs)! it may need years but yeah

[sand igloo]

so basic pulling is never worth it?

[hushed sorrel]

never do basic pulling

[sand igloo]

except the daily one

[haughty skiff]

you never pull unless it's an event; you do your daily light banner pull and that is it

[hushed sorrel]

yes thats true, its that you get all basic pools included in the event ones

[sand igloo]

and then when there's an event where I can get smth like NJ I just spam my cubes on that?

[haughty skiff]

you just missed the recent UR event, so the next one will be in late December

[sand igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/emoji-in-distress-emoji-sad-emoji-disappearing-emoji-disintegrating-seokvrse-gif-25237004

[hushed sorrel]

thats basically it, later ingame you will get enough cubes for everything even as f2p but since you begin with very little you wont have enough for now. pull if you think you need the ships or want to add to your fleet

by the way most content updates are thursdays, means if we dont get a new banner in 2 days there wont be one for atleast another week

[viscid swift]

cope they remember to make it permanent sometime in the next 5 years

[topaz smelt]

nah theyll just powercreep it

[rapid grail]

bring it on

[sharp comet]

whats the next rerun

oh fool's scales. i was hoping for reflections on the oasis

[rain bobcat]

hakuhou amagi implac or hakuhou amagi shinano+eldridge

[topaz smelt]

just reset until it all hits

[rain bobcat]

fucking me lmao

[sweet delta]

I think the one strongest CV fleet to cover all armors is Lion Soyuz nakhimov

And you put BB cats on it

[rain bobcat]

yeah fair

should be able to kill all harbiters with AP guns

cba to switch so I use that fleet+the IJN cv and never switch gear

[whole hinge]

Is Hestia good?

[slow fox]

That was the case before like META Raid and OpSi.

Thanks to HIT/LVL/LCK creep of enemies, supertanks like Napoli Agir Brest compete with Chinawall on average eHP.

[stark quiver]

smh

[flat oak]

Does it mean every node now needs 3 runs to complete

[sweet delta]

10-1 needs 3 runs to 100%

You don't need to hear about how many clears later chapters need

[sand igloo]

is Dewey meta much better than Laffey?

ty

[soft raft]

Cruise pass METAs all suck ass for pratical purposes

[wispy cosmos]

<@&472236072743600148>

[glossy granite]

Rip nocturnal, we will never see you again 🙏 😭

[sly ibex]

<@&460646206851252224>

[rigid onyx]

they practically give me a shit ton of reload and hit tech 😤

[flat oak]

What should I craft from those or are they all meh

[sweet delta]

Are you a returning player from 2020 or why do you have pr1 and pr2 bps

Good: hellcat, triple 155, twin 203, quint 533, twin 100, triple 410
Usable: octuple because gold AA guns are better than purple AA guns

[flat oak]

Returning player from 2022 who didn't bother doing gear lab or opsi

[flat oak]

What should I do with those? Heard that I shouldn't use cores for EXP and that I better to buy blueprints

[vapid valve]

Ok where do I get the blueprint thingy because I want to get some so I can try to get more weapons

[soft raft]

which one? Research gear? Normal gear?

[sweet delta]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1280197894141509778/1420810490183159830/Protocore_guide.png?ex=68efcce2&is=68ee7b62&hm=d9d4e11cd6af5578b23d55da8e22775a122180f855c0b6ed76d4c5ef8ad1c276&

[vapid valve]

Research gear thing

[soft raft]

by doing Q or G researches

[fallen jay]

So will Owari also be available in the Fountain of Youth event rerun?

[eternal moth]

They're not rerunning Fountain of Youth, they're just adding the ships directly to permapools and the map to WA.

And I'm not sure what Owari has to do with the Fountain of Youth event anyways.

[rain vine]

owari isnt even part of the fountain of youth event, unless i missed something and they announced unzen rerun at the same time

[eternal moth]

They didn't. All we know is it's coming soon.

Clemenceau's event is rerunning.

[soft raft]

Fountain of Youth banner rerun also already happened last year

[eternal moth]

Huh. Wiki doesn't show a rerun date for it, so I forgot about that.

Oh, I see what happened. It didn't TECHNICALLY rerun, they just had the second banner. Right.

[stark quiver]

wil tempestas being added to perma have like a rate up

[eternal moth]

No more rate-ups for perma/WA adds

[stark quiver]

time to pull a aquila two

[eternal moth]

Not gonna wait for a WW?

[brave trail]

any submarine guide or anything

i never bothered about them so i dont know where to start

[stark quiver]

ig i can

[sweet delta]

What subs do you have and what chapter are you at?

[rain vine]

https://azurlaneecgc.com/fleetbuilding/#sub_fleet

[late flame]

i like how the UR submarine is now part of fish/wolves heh

[brave trail]

i think i have most subs

also the new UR one

rn chap 13

[late flame]

#gameplay-help message

[sand igloo]

what ship do I research in lab as beginner?

[rain vine]

https://azurlaneecgc.com/research/

[sand igloo]

ty

what does the PR mean?

[rain vine]

gold research ship
DR is rainbow research ship

[sand igloo]

should I get Izumo to use isntead of Pennsylvania?

nvm they're all locked

[winter moat]

hi wanna ask about faction matter, if i max lb and max lvl 100 (ex: a Rare tier ship) and retire it, does the faction points accumulated will get affected by it?

[rain vine]

you need to get the ship to 120 to get the faction points
faction points dont go away after retiring ships

[winter moat]

thanks man, saved my day

also max lb included rite?

[rain vine]

/fleettech

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Q: How do I get more fleet technology points?
You get fleet tech points by:
Collecting the ship (~20%)
Max Limit Breaking it (~45%)
Achieving level 120 (~35%)

-Higher rarity ships gives more fleet tech pts .
-Heavier ship hulls also gives more fleet tech pts: CV=BB>CA>CL>DD

Side notes:
-PR ships give more fleet tech pts than normal but follow the above formula with development 30 replacing MLB.
-META ships are considered a separate META faction. They give same bonuses as their non-META versions.
-Collab ships, Muse and little versions of ships e.g. Li'l Sandy, Clevelad and Lena etc do not give any fleet tech pts.
-Iron Blood faction ships receive double the normal tech points compared to other nations.

For more information and exact amounts, consult the wiki
You can also use this Fleet Tech Tracker by mrlar

[red sapphire]

What are those cats on #game-news ?

[sweet delta]

Event limited cats without RNG

[red sapphire]

Are they worth?

[sweet delta]

Depending on the price, Drake should go somewhere in medium priority in /coredata

Strongest BB cat most players will ever get (excluding other rng-less cats)

[timid vortex]

if I need to farm opereation siren to craft gear and overcome progress wall, what do I spend oil on then?

[sweet delta]

Play more

[muted wind]

spend oil to progress or grind the campaign, you'll run out of AP eventually. if you are really overflowing on oil and don't think you'll spend it, you can also buy dorm food.

[timid vortex]

I can't progress campaign because my gear is shit

[sweet delta]

there's no longer a medium priority in /coredata. Then Drake should go at the. Bottom of high priority

[timid vortex]

10-1 is as far as I managed to get

[muted wind]

you can totally get past w12 with decent purple gear, i get the feeling that's not your problem

[sweet delta]

Leveling up your ships would be more productive than farming opsi for 2 months to craft 5 gear

[muted wind]

also, w9 is a good grind spot to start out with too

[timid vortex]

my main fleets are lvl 100 tho

[sweet delta]

If that's your fleet for campaign too, then all the gear in the world won't save it

[timid vortex]

there were specific requirements for party

[muted wind]

the game's level cap is 125, you definitely have some leeway still

[rapid shard]

I feel like you mirrored her look lol

[rapid shard]

What requirements?

[timid vortex]

can't remember now. And not that it matters. It was just archives node

[rapid shard]

Only time there's specific fleet requirements is hard mode/challenge stages. You can push normal campaign with any combo of ships

[muted wind]

there's no reason to play war archives, and only hard modes have fleet requirements. just grind w9 until your ships are higher level for now, and do opsi on the side.

[rapid shard]

And awaken your good ships past 100 as well. You should have a enough cognitive chips for one fleet at least to 110 maybe 115 by now

[stark eagle]

What is better for chapter 15-4 for unicorn the gold aa gun or the rainbow aa gun?

[wind hazel]

rainbow of course. but lower priority

[muted wind]

you seem to have enough rainbow AA guns to gear most of your ships with anyways

[wind hazel]

unless you're planning to shove 76 in all your fleet then unicorn might very well be one of the last to use it

[stark eagle]

actually unicorn is the only one with no rainbow aa sooo

[timid vortex]

So far my fleets been something like this. Didn't have my choice

[wind hazel]

use unicorn
use proper tanks

[cobalt rapids]

dont use ships u cannot afford to mlb

and dont use rly bad ships (optional)

[timid vortex]

uni hasn't got retrofit yet
which are tanks?
can't afford to mlb are URs?
I don't have that much experience to know which are bad

[muted wind]

use unicorn anyways, she's still a good healer without the retrofit

use portland as a tank, there are beginner tasks that require you to upgrade her anyways. not sure what else you got. you can start a thread and post your dock if you want more help

[rain bobcat]

which one was drake again (the cat)

[red sapphire]

Does something of here drops UR gear design plans? Or I have to wait next month?

[rain bobcat]

miracle flame+ what was it?

[rain bobcat]

petersburg only

[red sapphire]

I bought petersburg stuff, I'm looking for stages or whatever that drops them

[muted wind]

c5+ cat nodes can, i think, but that's not necessarily tied to coordinates

[red sapphire]

Will try there then... I want my first UR gear and I'm 2 design plans away of it

[split gazelle]

Have you bought the single time missions from the exchange shop already?

forgot what they're called.. file loggers?

[red sapphire]

Let me check

[muted wind]

classified file loggers? but yeah, good call, those each reward you with a UR design selector at the end

[split gazelle]

yeah those ones

[red sapphire]

This?

[muted wind]

-# and obviously the abyssal coordinates there can also drop UR designs
yeah

[split gazelle]

these ones

[red sapphire]

Oh those are like questlines?

[muted wind]

i'd buy 1 of those, and the R6 siren at the bottom

[red sapphire]

The UR or the SR?

[muted wind]

UR. though buying 2 of the classified ones would guarantee you can do what you want, buying the siren may be better long term

[split gazelle]

depends on if he can clear the r6

[red sapphire]

I'm going for the questlines then

[muted wind]

ah true, can you even clear that UR one?

[red sapphire]

Yesterday I cleared my first C6 single boss so... Tbh no idea if I can

[muted wind]

... yeah, just go for 2 classified ones then

[wind hazel]

with the power of ~~anime friendship ~~ Lion you can

[split gazelle]

I think you can rest and regroup so should be fine?

[wind hazel]

your roster looks like this, you have no trouble trashing them

[muted wind]

probably better to guarantee that UR gear over a chance to maybe get what you want, if you can even beat it. plus, the chance to get a boss that heals.

[wind hazel]

how do you even have mlb shimakaze...

[red sapphire]

Yeah... Priority for wich questline to take?

[muted wind]

they're all basically the same and they're not repeatable

[red sapphire]

Okay, thank you so much guys. Let's see if I can get those sweet Design Plans

[rain bobcat]

might've gotten it casually when she actually ran

[wind hazel]

-# it's IJN bias

[queen frigate]

Got a rainbow bulin, should I use it on shinano or uvh
Both are just 3 stars

[wind hazel]

you dont use it on them

save your UR bulin for limited UR

[flat oak]

What's this

[wind hazel]

your queue. it's empty now

first thing first, you wanna change your research focus from 2 to 8

[flat oak]

how do i queue?

[rain bobcat]

and next thing you don't wanna ever have anything to do with the letter C

[wind hazel]

you click on the research you've taken, and hit the queue button

[flat oak]

ic, will it be ok even if im trying to get FdG blueprints

[wind hazel]

then it will be added to the queue list, and new researches will take over

[wind hazel]

FDG can be coined so there's no reason to waste research academy for blueprints on her. catch up is fine

[lyric kettle]

how can i get data keys?

[wind hazel]

wait for daily refresh

you get 4 per day

[lyric kettle]

oh where can i check that

[wind hazel]

top left of War Archives

[lyric kettle]

ty

[flat oak]

how much money u need to 30 lvl fdg?

[wind hazel]

depends on how many you spend per day

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Shipyard#Enhancing
there's a graph with coin breakpoint here

at 10 blueprints per day it's 525600 over 73 days it will be less with catchup

^that's FS5 so if it's just dev30 it's also less, but fs5 is what you wanna aim fr anyway

[rapid shard]

Im just now realizing how much ive spent on Agir.... Dev29 currently in roughly 2 weeks. While also coining roon completely

[gilded carbon]

Who do i wanna look out for to, potentially, replace Anchorage with

She and Ägir are currently raised to be my main Tanks

Replacing Roon and... One Eagle CA i usually forget the Name of. She was from the Event before Naraka

[wind hazel]

napoli, kinda

the rest are mostly from limited events

there's also brest but it's series 6.....

[gilded carbon]

Got it. They may Take a lot of time though, so the other two may yet stay where they are. Thank you

[red sapphire]

<@&460646206851252224>

[atomic abyss]

/kick 210478496227524608

[odd root]

_ziva#0 got kicked.

[violet grail]

Hot damn, finally got sandy's last skill after retro and decided to try W13-1. She's an absolute beast y'all weren't exaggerating. Only did a couple fights with second fleet though and the other 5 including boss with the sandy fleet coz my second one cant really even handle the escorts in w13 that well.

Im probably not really gaining much from chapter 13 though right? Compared to just farming fleet tech on 12-4 for fdg eventually.

[rapid shard]

13-4 is around 1150ish oil for 3x sortie and coins are 2500-2800 per full clear. Little bit higher drop rate for cognitive chips. But cant throw random stuff at it like you can 12-4

[rain bobcat]

13-4 is around the same exp and has more coins but much harder

what makes it even harder is that there are 7 mob battles before the boss so shitters usually can't survive

and also 3* carrier nodes are death sentence ifyou dont have vanguards that actually have AA

[violet grail]

Eh ive got a lot of extra chips and arrays at the moment tbh. Could 125 like 3 or 4 more ships when I get some worth doing it with.

Sticking to 12-4 then.

[zenith heron]

||if not prepared well, Boss Taihou does hit a bit like a brick thrown at you. ||

[rapid shard]

Yeah 13-4 is not a great farming spot if you trying to level stuff. Random fleets thrown together will not make it lol

[junior pasture]

How do I get the part for the escort fleet done if none appear??

[rain bobcat]

you either need a healer or atleast 2 vanguards with above average AA to farm 13-4 without anyone dying

[rapid shard]

Turn off clearing mode

[rain bobcat]

clearing mode insta wipes all escorts and auto spawn boss in hard mode

[junior pasture]

Ah..

I see now

[lyric kettle]

Is there a tier lists in the game?

[south spear]

What should i do retrofit

San diego or warspite

[atomic solstice]

is hsfcr better than black shell for general use paired with white shell?

[atomic solstice]

sandy

[south spear]

Ty

[rain bobcat]

yes

[spark patio]

Guys, what should i buy in coredata shop now. I already had 3 white shells 2 blacks shells and independence

[rain bobcat]

/coredata

[odd root]

https://www.azurlaneecgc.com/images/equip_misc/Core_Data_Priority.jpeg

[rain bobcat]

keep buying shells monthly and just get whatever else you need

[wind hazel]

terrible advice to suggest keep buying shells to a new player ngl

get 1 or 2 breguet, beacon and elite manjuu, sub gears

[rain bobcat]

in a month of like even just w11 hard you should be able to easily get 2 shells +2/3 more gold gear

I mean technically don't need to buy more than 3 blacks

just get atleast like 5 whites

[split gazelle]

what do you need 5 whites for

[mint flint]

you dont need more than 3 shells at all do you

[wind hazel]

you dont

[mint flint]

just swap them around, more shells just makes it more convenient

[wind hazel]

that's why i said terrible advice

[atomic solstice]

but opsi bbs need white shells no?

[wind hazel]

@w11 you only earn 2340 core data per month. -500 arrays, -350 cog chips, you're left with 1490 to manage with

[split gazelle]

thats 3, and you can swap gears

[wind hazel]

mr smart guy -800 shell lol,
left with 690 to jack off with

[atomic solstice]

oh valid

i only swap the main guns tbh

[split gazelle]

a 4th one is mainly "nice to have" so you can have one static on your mobbing fleet. but as previously said there are other higher priorities than that.

thats only if you cba to swap gears though

[wind hazel]

you can go for convenient duplicates when you have excess core data

[red sapphire]

If you use white shells and you need more than 3 white for now why don't you try using transitional equipment like the purple version of it until you can have an actual fleet where you no longer need 3+?

[hushed sorrel]

isnt x3 active these days? i remember seeing the icon yesterday

[atomic solstice]

i dont even know what you are trying to say here bruh

[wind hazel]

they come once in a blue moon, so we dont take that into consideration

[hushed sorrel]

alright

[wind hazel]

if we do then yes, there's a surplus. which means you can go buy the rest of the remaining priority gear, yay. not another shell

[red sapphire]

I mean that you can use purples if you need more than 3+ while you progress

So you can use core data on better stuff, and you will eventually reach the point where you only need 3 white so... It's a bit of less spending

[wind hazel]

😭 me no understando

[red sapphire]

Why spend core for white shells if eventually will only need 3?

On more than 3 I mean

[wind hazel]

people are lazy with gear swapping

-# they swap anyway

[hushed sorrel]

and its not like you need any of the gear a endless amounts of times. its the luxus of playing for years

[topaz smelt]

When you're just grinding you prob don't even need aux equipped

[red sapphire]

A +6 something doesn't hurt

Question about Gear Lab. I have a bunch of mats but I lack of electronics. Is there any priority UR equipment that does not need that? I have seen Quint Mags don't use electronics but there could be something better don't know

[shell willow]

did cn/jp not mention unzen rerun yet?

[cobalt rapids]

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/gear-lab use this and cross reference to this
https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/recipes?flags=4&exclude=flags

[red sapphire]

Okay, thanks

According to that I need a lot of electronics

[topaz smelt]

Elects are the main bottleneck

[cobalt rapids]

yea alot of good gear in gearlab eats electronics

[red sapphire]

Yeah... But I need them for the SRs too...

[cobalt rapids]

its a slow process
eventually u will get more than u know what to do with em

[red sapphire]

I hope so...

[cobalt rapids]

avg income for SR mats per month is like 90-100 each per month (incl selectors ) so the first months will be rough on electronics but afterwards theyll pile up

[wind hazel]

how many does the cat of sea have?

[red sapphire]

The guide you sent, if it say "Quantity X-X" I assume that it's worth to craft at least and as much that times?

[cobalt rapids]

no its the recommend amount you should have in your depot

including all sources

[cobalt rapids]

like 1.2k

[rain bobcat]

I have 800

[red sapphire]

Alright... I'll have a look then. Probably should prio equipment for the ships I use

[cobalt rapids]

good equipment + ships u use
basically if ure a new player with lil to no gearlab gear/mats then ur main indicator is the New SKK rubric
if ure richer or u wanna decide on ur own then look at worth in Campaign/Single Target ratings

[red sapphire]

The rubrik is what you sent me?

Ah new play rating?

[cobalt rapids]

yea the ratings inthe gearlab guide i mean

[red sapphire]

Okay

The best UR thing I can craft according to that would be the IJN DD gun, but I don't know if Trafalgar and Shimakaze benefit more from Single 133 Mark IV

[wind hazel]

😭 probably crafted to nerf yourself

[cobalt rapids]

1. its B in new SKK because while its an S gain over the next best thing for comparison the overall impact to your fleet is not that big so you should always check the new SKK rating aswell for the gain / materials spent basically
2. its a downgrade for shima and traf, the single 76mm blue gun is better on them

[red sapphire]

Yeah that's what I thought... May be it's not really worth it the investment for now until I have more electronics

[cobalt rapids]

single 133 is better on them but marginally so once again not a good investment till ure rich

[red sapphire]

Unless Quint Mags are good enought over the Quad Mags

[undone plover]

Single 113

[cobalt rapids]

quint mags perform about the same as quad mags while costing 3x more gold plates to +13 except for some niche timings scenarios and therefor are rated as C worth and D new SKK

[red sapphire]

Then I gues I should go to fetch electronics...

[cobalt rapids]

yea theres nothing wrong with hoarding mats till u see what u need

[red sapphire]

Thanks for the guiding

[atomic abyss]

yes
not that you should roll for her in special

[onyx flame]

Shipbuilding support plan just means free pulls a special pool right?

[soft raft]

What

[rapid shard]

this

[soft raft]

Isn't that the rerun build tickets for the event banner

[atomic abyss]

there should be

[rapid shard]

Is that what that plan is?

[soft raft]

Also iirc guichen isn't even a special pool ship so idk how you got to that conclusion

[rapid shard]

Thats what they posted in the game news. i was curious what it actually was as well

[onyx flame]

Ngl i forgot that there a gacha pool called special, was mostly asking if it was for a separate pool from standard

[soft raft]

Light, Heavy, and Special are the standard pools
Of which the last two are a waste of time since event banners take from one of the two for their pool so I'm not surprised you forgot

[rain bobcat]

check channel name mate

[hollow warren]

This is gameplay help. Im asking for help about the gameplay

[plain saffron]

yes

[rain bobcat]

there should be a thread for island specifically lemme find it

https://discord.com/channels/456397991847395339/1422463299877867540

[plain saffron]

https://discord.com/channels/456397991847395339/1422463299877867540

[hollow warren]

Thanks, didn't know there was a thread

[rain bobcat]

also 18 is mathematically correct

[hollow warren]

Wdym

[rain bobcat]

ur putting 9 into a flower bed of dimensions 3x3, that means when you harvest the crop including what you already put in, it would net you 18 unless the crop itself somehow grew multiple things

[hollow warren]

Uh

[rain bobcat]

dunno how they do it exactly but that's from a logical perspective from me

[hollow warren]

So you missed the part where when I farm manually, a single seed of corn gives me 18

[rain bobcat]

hm

quite interesting then

[hollow warren]

So when I plant 3x3, or 9 seeds, and each seed gives 18, it should be 18x9=162

Ill move to the thread now

[rain bobcat]

one thing though is it the same duration

if its way faster or smth that might be it just spaghetti explanation

[hollow warren]

No its actually slower

[rain bobcat]

either explanation from them or just some spaghetti code then

i would vouch for the latter

[silk helm]

What's the best torps for torp spam

[wispy cosmos]

for skills that proc on fire or those that proc on hit

[ebon canyon]

w13 hard mode is kickin my booty

[silk helm]

On fire. Is it still 550mm

Gearing my Vittoria btw

[wind hazel]

you mean... cuniberti!

just blue torp her up

[silk helm]

Ty

[rapid shard]

Are the Prototype 533mm Quadruple torps decent? The PR8 weird looking ones. They have a fairly quick firerate for quads

[silk helm]

does mebots ehp guide consider skills like cuniberti's

[wispy cosmos]

imo blue 550 isnt worth it, it's the hood gun of torps

[forest palm]

ignore it

[rapid shard]

Well back to crafting a couple more quad mags then

[turbid dawn]

What is the quickest way to level up subs? It's mind numbing seeing how slow it is

[rapid shard]

Throw them in 1st floor dorm or xp book them

[turbid dawn]

I guess I could just book them, only really use books for 70-100

Only problem is affinity then

[cobalt rapids]

do island mode for free affinity gifts

[turbid dawn]

I'm not downloading that thanks

[rapid shard]

Is that 50 affinity pack still for sale? Lol

Had some purple xp books with it too

[cobalt rapids]

just do them normally then its not that hard
just turn call auto sub and forget about it

[rapid shard]

What is the oil cost on bringing them in? Ive never paid attention to it and just been using dorm

[cobalt rapids]

depends on stage

[turbid dawn]

I mean I've levelled two whole fleets from 100-120/125 in 12-4 and they're not even 1/2 way done

[rapid shard]

12-4 then. Cause ive never checked what they cost with cap or if oilcap effects them

[cobalt rapids]

yes its slow since they have less combat participation than surface fleets
but its also brainded as in u just forget about it for a few months and just rotate em as normal with other ships
u can minmax and stuff if u want like using increased asr gear or just going to better layout stages to accelerate it or just going nuts on aff grinding during raid events and then dorm every1 but like its not worth the hassle for me

[turbid dawn]

While I'm here talking about them then what is the best gear for 404? And is it worth swapping the bidders for the UR 1 in lab?

[turbid dawn]

Ah this is what I was running currently

[cobalt rapids]

i mean its fine

[rapid shard]

Kunais tho

[turbid dawn]

What even is that plane?

[cobalt rapids]

theres no sub content worth maximizing for so only do rainbow gear if ure a sub enthusiast

yea dagger over kunais

[turbid dawn]

Yeah I always forget about them in general tbh, and why dagger over Kunai? Just because she's surfaced more?

[rapid shard]

Crit rate better than just trp stat

[cobalt rapids]

the purple one ? you can get it in gearlab but alr have bearcat which is just much better

15 hit + 10 CR beats 40 trp and 8 hit on avg in expectation

[turbid dawn]

Alright, ty for the info

[fallen jay]

I thought she was part of the fountain of youth event for some reason. My bad.

[forest palm]

Owari is from Effulgence Before Eclipse (Unzen's event)

[last zenith]

what gun is the Twin 457mm (Mark A Prototype) for again

[forest palm]

mobbing

[atomic abyss]

late/end campaign
opsi mobbing
occasionally bossing in cm/opsi/showdown

[last zenith]

like what ship
best for

[atomic abyss]

uh, the one BB that you will use in either fleet?

[last zenith]

mm ok

[atomic abyss]

unless their name is musashi, i guess

[last zenith]

sushi doesnt use it?

[atomic abyss]

yes
if you looked at her skills, you'd understand why

[last zenith]

oh no.... what gun does sushi use then

[atomic abyss]

twin 410 kai

[last zenith]

ok

this thing right

[dapper token]

Who to use for grinding shimanto

[atomic abyss]

no
that can work too though

[last zenith]

which main gun then.
me confused.
I deleted all my loadouts for sushi

for everyone atually

[atomic abyss]

https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/equips/id/34300

[last zenith]

oh.

why is it elite I used a super rare gun.
is this the best for it

[knotty dome]

in this game, equipment rarity =/= how good the equipment is

[last zenith]

ik. the rare gun is great on a ton of destroyers.

[wind hazel]

you know, but you still ask

[last zenith]

me ask because me make sure

[stark quiver]

gph when someone asks a question:

[atomic abyss]

for mobbing with musashi yes

[zenith heron]

Its definitely a no brainer that its better to use a CA Gun like the Unzen Gun for Light armored enemies for a CB Ship (Brest) better than the Azuma Gun?

[cobalt robin]

if i use the ur torp aux on a sub do i pair it with snorkel or hull design?

[violet grail]

Any idea why it's not letting me coin st louis dev level in shipyard? it says cost free but clicking + does nothing

[wind hazel]

what dev are you trying to do

[violet grail]

currently level 19, it would go to 20 with 1 more.

[wind hazel]

forgot the dev level increase, but should have to do with louis's actual level

[violet grail]

in dock she is lv 26 I havent really used her other than commissions

[wind hazel]

get to her lv30

they are like normal ships too, they need certain level to be able to "limit break"

[violet grail]

yep bingo, threw 4 books at her and it worked

[spark patio]

should i follow these setup? (except the aug)

[topaz smelt]

not a single one ofthose setup are good, let alone decent

[sweet delta]

Bad
Bad
Bad investment for mid gear
Bad investment for mid gear

[flat oak]

I had question regarding oil caps. Do they unlock if u 3* stage or if you 3* every stage on map

[hushed sorrel]

you need to clear the map, it doesnt matter how many stars you got

[mint flint]

certain stages have oil cap, you'll get it once you 100% and it has nothing to do with stars

[red sapphire]

Nice bait bluestacks

[flat oak]

Prototype Bulin >> Hakuryu without her sword, trust

[red sapphire]

xD

[flat oak]

I see. I'm stuck at 10th world due to me not being lvl 75 so I can't enter world 11. Should I try farming world 10 or is better to grind opsi (do u even get exp from there?)

[mint flint]

opsi xp is very minimal

[flat oak]

Damn

[red sapphire]

There is nothing wrong doing OpSi...

You can start it without consequences

[topaz smelt]

do WA for kms tech

[dapper token]

Who to use to grind for shimanto

[topaz smelt]

whoever you want

[cobalt robin]

yo imma get a copy of haku

[flat oak]

Kinda dumb question but if ship dies, does she still get exp or nah

My graf zeppelin and bisco are level 70 so idk if they will be able to survive w10

[violet grail]

For the battle in which she died yes, but not in subsequent battles.

[red sapphire]

Same

[mint flint]

dying also makes them lose a chunk of morale, which cuts down on your xp gain

[flat oak]

I'm so cooked in getting fdg exp

[violet grail]

Opsi does let you gain commander xp without spending oil so its not that bad of an idea. But will take some time yeah. Farming on chapter 10 should be fine too since theres oil cap.

Depends what you are limited by, oil or irl time.

[topaz smelt]

reason why purple ships exist

[flat oak]

I have 25k oil but no coins

[viscid swift]

forget about grinding XP for CDC until you get to w12

[violet grail]

Then farm 10-4 ^^

[flat oak]

Does world 12 require lvl 80 commander level

[topaz smelt]

if youre stuck then do whatever, when youre able to progress you should do so asap

[violet grail]

Its +5 levels for each world yeah iirc

[flat oak]

Pain

How to see commander XP bar?

[hazy olive]

How do I unlock D3 in Visitors Dyed in Red?

[hazy olive]

commission

[violet grail]

Just tap on your profile picture or name in the top left, then look in top right.

[violet grail]

If its like any other event then you need to click on hard mode bottom left of screen and clear the last C stage to unlock D stages.

[urban mountain]

Do most people level new ships in chapter 12 or 13 and do you use uni or nah?

And what level do you get them before you deploy? Sorry if these are dumb questions I just want to farm efficiently

[topaz smelt]

i just throw them in 12-1, theyre usually carried by other higher leveled ships. I usually dont run a healer

[urban mountain]

I tried setting up a specialized cross fleet but they still cant usually defeat the boss on their own

[topaz smelt]

sounds like a gear issue but usually even half gearred and leveled should take out the boss

[urban mountain]

Even when out of ammo?

[topaz smelt]

i just throw the boss fleet at it

[urban mountain]

like use the leveled cross fleet to fight the boss?

[topaz smelt]

ye

[urban mountain]

I see

[topaz smelt]

youd have to get carried by something strong if you want to 1 fleet xp it, but thats just already less efficient

[urban mountain]

thx :)

[rugged moon]

building 2 wyverns is the recommended first UR gear in the lab?

[silent hearth]

So chapter 15 is the current hardest content right? Then how hard is chapter 15 Hardmode?

[inland shoal]

Ch 14 and 15 HM don't exist (yet)

[silent hearth]

ah ok, i was going to say hardmode 12 is not that hard, i can full clear it and im not anywhere near the top yet

[violet grail]

Probably wyvern if you need more damage in campaign, tenrai if you need more damage for opsi bosses or meta showdown, prototype triple 155mm kai if you are on W14 and struggling with suicide boats.

I dont have any of them yet, thats just my understanding of the guide and what people have said on here. Prioritize whatever is most relevant to your progression I think.

[silent hearth]

i think either tenrai or wyvern would probably be the bigger helps by quite a bit margin right? 155mm kai is good, but its not anywhere near as helpful as the 2 planes

mindyou im not in ch 14 yet! so my opinion is limited.

[violet grail]

as the guide says its specifically for W14 so forget about it if thats not your issue

[silent hearth]

mmk, do the suicide boats get a lot harder in 14 or something? im going to finish ch13 today, ive been sleepin on it

[violet grail]

i only just beat 13-1 today so can't help you there 😛

[silent hearth]

ah! fair enough XD

[violet grail]

TL;DR tanky shielded suicide boats.

[red sapphire]

What should be the launch order for a fleet that is Hakuhou AvP Shinano?

[hazy olive]

Aight, got Eldridge now.

[forest palm]

you always want August second

after that it doesn't matter who is 3rd or 1st

[red sapphire]

I see on yt people using Implacable 2 and Shinano 3 but I don't have Implacable it's the same with avp then?

[forest palm]

yes, the CC launches second so the other 2 can stay within the window comfortably

[red sapphire]

Alright. Thank you

[tropic vector]

what armor type are opsi mobs?

[forest palm]

it's mixed

[tropic vector]

so what gear do you use for mob fleet

or just a mix

[red sapphire]

I use HE ammo and Parallel torpedo bombers for mob fleet

[ebon canyon]

i might need assistance in beating ch 13 HM

this what chat gpt told me to do but it did not work

[red sapphire]

Shinano as flagship on Plymouth fleet

[viscid swift]

where the fuck does Chatgpt train on to put together that

[viscid swift]

first, what have you got to work with

[ebon canyon]

lmao idk, i sent it screenshots of who i have available for main and then vanguard and then it told me this

[silent hearth]

Whoa why are you having issues with chapter 13?

[red sapphire]

Don't use chatGPT for this...

[viscid swift]

needless to say Chatgpt is a terrible source for anything AL unformation

[silent hearth]

oh HM, nvm

[ebon canyon]

mainfleet

[topaz smelt]

idk i think it might be better than some yt recs

[silent hearth]

i was gonna say 13 and you have full 125 fleets? no wayyyyy

[ebon canyon]

vanguard

[silent hearth]

you should create a thread btw

[ebon canyon]

my vanguard lacking in levels wow

ch 13 hard mode help

oh thats how u do that

[noble cypress]

Is ryu lion and hestia good?

[void walrus]

This server, probably
Or the Reddit (It probably exists)

[silent hearth]

Ryu is pretty decent, Hestia is a support ship and sucks by default, but she is the best support ship

[viscid swift]

Mob: Musashi, Aquila, Unicorn, Laffey 2, Unzen, Trafalgar
Boss: Lion, Amagi, Shinano, Guam, Sandy, Eldridge

[noble cypress]

alright thanks

good for me to use as a beginner?

[silent hearth]

ryu is a fantastic beginner ship, but dont bother with hesia.

[noble cypress]

alright

is there any good support ships i can get that arent from gacha?

[void walrus]

They really should buff support ships
Making the repair crane heal a percentage of HP would be great

[ebon canyon]

✍🏼✍🏼✍🏼 thank u thank u

[ebon canyon]

amagi cv or original amagi?

[red sapphire]

CV

[silent hearth]

All AR ships suck, thats what i meant by 'support' ships. but unicorn is best support ship (not AR ship)

[void walrus]

Yeah, MB

[viscid swift]

she's a repair ship

[violet grail]

can chatgpt even train on discord messages? Unlike other sources like reddit, youtube, there's no upvotes or any kind of ranking/validation of what is good or bad info, no amount of links/ citations, maybe just based on amount of times same thing is repeated at best. Reddit exists for this but not nearly as helpful as the discord.

[silent hearth]

Yeah repair ships suck. Real support ships like Unicorn are fan-fuckin-tastic.

[viscid swift]

I use vestal more than I use Unicorn these days

[silent hearth]

Really now? i thought all AR ships just sucked ass by default?

[void walrus]

They can input text, but a better question is whether or not discord is selling the text or if any scraping tools exist for discord
anyways #off-topic is a better place for this convo

[viscid swift]

I'd argue they're "better" baby sitters for leveling ships than Unicorn

[void walrus]

It's 2 aa guns and 3 aux slots

Not great, but you can put loads of random shit on them

[silent hearth]

for leveling that makes sense, since uni heals % which can be lower then a flat amount up until 100+. do you only use Vestal for leveling or other content too?

[viscid swift]

I use an unequipped Perseus for OpSi

but that's not the reason why they're superior

1. because they don't do surface damage they usually don't get MvP(I've seen Vestal MvP at least half a dozen times now)
2. the +1 ammo means your mob fleet never fights a battle without ammo which is handy for consistency
3. Vestal has a zombie heal once per battle for the first ship that needs it

[silent hearth]

nice ok, good to know. what kinda setup do you have on her?

[viscid swift]

2 AA radars, 2 roombas, and a Fire Extinguisher

[silent hearth]

no ship maintenance facility?

[viscid swift]

no why

[silent hearth]

Not sure, thats why i ask, i dont know much about AR since everyone usually says 'AR ship bad'

[viscid swift]

it's extra HP which is pretty useless and this "Repair Ⅲ: Every 5s, restores 15 HP to the most damaged ship. Effect does not stack.
"

[void walrus]

^ that

3 HP/s is complete dogshit

[silent hearth]

Does it only repair the most hurt ship? because the text in game only states 15hp every 5s, i thought it meant for entire fleet.

[boreal wagon]

the in game text is wrong

[void walrus]

Even a unupgraded repair kit heals more

[silent hearth]

that is REALLY bad then haha, thats terrible. i thought it was 'ok' because i thought it repaired the entire fleet. thats insane.

[dawn spade]

whats the best thing to do with a copy?

[silent hearth]

save until MLB then retire. commons are used as fodder for enhancing since they dont give medals when you retire.

unless you REALLY want a second copy, which is not recommended for most ships. im curious if anyone here ever keeps a 2nd copy of a ship?

[dawn spade]

i would keep copies if dock capacity wasnt so tight

[dawn spade]

whats the point of saving it if im gonna retire it anyway?

[silent hearth]

tech points, MLB gives tech and tech points. golds especially

[dawn spade]

hmm, is it worth it though? it takes so much to MLB a super rare ship, iirc

[void walrus]

MLB is worth

[silent hearth]

if your dock is that tight then you do you boo. but its recommended to keep higher tier for MLB

[ebon canyon]

my good sir would u be able to check the thread i made, i’m having an issue with the boss fleet vanguard because of the hard mode requirements for types of ships used

[viscid swift]

I wouldn't retire a unique copy of a ship, at all

[dawn spade]

should i MLB as many ships as possible or just the super and ultra rare ones?

i dont know what the rewards are

[turbid marsh]

sadly that can't be helped if f2p wants to save gem for skins instead of dock spaces XD

[void walrus]

Rares and elites are worth for the medals, commons are dubious, SR's are good for higher level content (100+)

[dawn spade]

thanks

[topaz smelt]

bulins are going to be your bottleneck so best to save them on good ships youll actually use

[void walrus]

Once you MLB the drop ships from W12, you can worry less about the purple bullins

[silent hearth]

at some point you are going to want to start MLBing other ships that you wont use but thats far down the road. just build up dock space and retire when necessary. i would avoid retiring elites if possible, i wouldnt retire super rares unless you have enough copies to MLB and definitely dont retire ultra.

[rugged moon]

I kept second copy musashi

but wasn't needed

[void walrus]

You can MLB in stages, BTW
Spreads out the cost and saves on dock space

[topaz smelt]

you kinda start mlbing trash fairly early for faction tech

[fierce lantern]

Is Yuki kaze a good ship girl

What about yuudachi

[soft raft]

Tf happened for Yukikaze to be good

[whole hinge]

What's the best way to get tech points fast?

[soft raft]

Obtain and MLB ships
Higher rarity and heavier hulltype

[whole hinge]

ok thank you 🙏

[eternal basalt]

Just note the coming Pirates are IX ships so their tech is pretty much useless. French okay.

[hollow gust]

They made her actually avoid shit now

Doesn't make her good for newer players though

[soft raft]

Oh so they gave her a unique aug

I'm guessing this was very recent cuz I haven't been really keeping track recently

[peak fable]

are cog chips the true bottleneck of this game's progression?

[knotty jolt]

Yesn't, they can be a factor but good gear and good ships are usually more importantn

Good gear on a good ship together in a good fleet can manage enemies even several levels higher then themselvs

but if you got a bad ship with bad gear then goodluck trying to fight some enemies even if you have a level advantage

[peak fable]

I want to get some fleet tech going for the higher PR ships, but my god are there few cog chips at cmd lvl 83, I know it gets more at 100 and if I farm higher campaign stages, but this is the first time where I feel "well I gotta take it slow now"

[sweet delta]

If getting every ship to 120 for tech or other reasons is the progression, then cog chips are the bottleneck

[knotty jolt]

You can usually get enough tech from limit breaking and collecting

[sweet delta]

level 83? welcome to the cog chip shortage club and enjoy your stay for the next 5 years

[peak fable]

alright, I guess Ima just take it easy then, nothing to rush as I will be residing in chapter 12 for a long time

[hushed sorrel]

gaining more % in collection will also raise fleet tech. if thats not yet done

the dock must grow

[spice phoenix]

what is the new best sub comp now considering i-404? i am currently running the old fishpack with flasher, archerfish, and albacore

[sweet delta]

@spice phoenix

[spice phoenix]

thanks

[gleaming girder]

How to get more points?

[flat oak]

is anchorage catch up worth it rn or should i catch up someone from PR6

[flat oak]

get dragon empire ships, MLB them

u can also level them to 120

[gleaming girder]

Thx m8

[flat oak]

can be good if u want to lvl up EXP and then have good team for it

[knotty jolt]

alot of the dragon empery ships are found in the exchange shops

Ning hai and her sister ship ping hai are guild store exchange

[haughty skiff]

chao ho, an shan, tai yuan, chang chun & fu shan mlb & ying swei collection gives you exactly 160 points.

[gleaming girder]

Unfortunate circumstances

[haughty skiff]

all of the ships i named are in the guild shop as a fyi

[knotty jolt]

Click the pawprint a million tech points, trust me

[rain bobcat]

depends on ur tank situation

[haughty skiff]

oh wait hold on lmao i forgor about the chinese wall comp

[haughty skiff]

gonna just link this;

a majority of PR ships just aren't the greatest, and most players will recommend for you to use the catchups to min-max protocores so you can purchase gear that will last a lot longer then the ships

https://azurlaneecgc.com/research/

FDG, Agir & Anchorage are key PR ships that will enable you to progress with more difficult content if you lack better options

i will note the PR1 recommendation in that guide is outdated, Monarch > Izumo ; Roon is a solid choice to get a significant amount of IB Tech whilst being a solid ship (around as tanky as Portland but with a lot more damage)

[flat oak]

My only tank now is Portland💀

[flat oak]

I see. I already have monarch and started doing fdg

I think I'll grab Anchorage cuz I lack any tanks and that she seems to be easier to build (300 blueprints) plus coinup. Should I still have pr focus at pr8?

[haughty skiff]

I'd recommend just reading the guide as well and deciding if you will do the PR min-max; it is recommended and imo, it'll be better in the long run

yeah, you should be on pr8 ; it's all in the guide

the ships in bold are the only ones recommended to even use a catchup to get

[flat oak]

I see. Is Shimanto a tank or just dd?

Like I said before, I lack tanks so I'm choosing between anchorage and shimanto

[sweet delta]

/ehp

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

List of vanguard ships by tankiness by mebot

[sweet delta]

A little tankier than Portland

[flat oak]

But I'll also probably pull for Guam? When she reruns that is. With Laffey II (she's tank right?) i should have two tanks

[slow fox]

-# ehp chart mentioend

[sweet delta]

You could use more tanks sooner than their rerun

Did you miss Eldridge retro?

[flat oak]

Yep

[haughty skiff]

thats really unfortunate

i'd say anchorage > shimanto , assuming you have FDG unlocked and are actively coining her

since once you get Dev30 FDG you can work on Agir and have a solid line-up

[flat oak]

I just started building fdg and doing exp farm

By doing exp farm I'm also farming money to get her to dl30

[haughty skiff]

you're farming 12-4 i assume ?

[stark quiver]

What’s a ship building support plan

[viscid swift]

tickets

[flat oak]

10-4. Don't have commander lvl 75 or 80 so it's locked

Btw how do u make ur second fleet attack during auto, cuz my farm fleet goes into boss battle

[sweet delta]

Chapter 11+ is much more efficient than 9 and 10

And 10-4 is poor even among chapter 9 and 10 so only farm it if you want

You set the Roles while selecting fleets

[void walrus]

You have to go into the submenu below the Meowofficer button, and change the fleet you want to do boss battles to "boss"

[flat oak]

Ye found it. Thanks a lot.

[void walrus]

No problem

[void walrus]

(It's the role submenu and the exact wording is "flagship", just to be clear)

[haughty skiff]

rough , just aim to hit 11+ asap

[hushed sorrel]

main begins in 6h 15min right?

[stark quiver]

who pinged me

[hushed sorrel]

i see nothing

[slow fox]

I've been doing 13-1 for a month. No gold plates.

[gilded dune]

Does hard mode ever guarantee gold blueprints?

I'm doing 9-2 and still getting blues T.T

[sweet delta]

Only the three star mission guarantees gold

[gilded dune]

The three star mission?

[dark hazel]

mission for 3 starring a hm stage

[gilded dune]

Ah that's what I thought
Do the percentages for higher rarities go up with each stage?
Like 9/10/11/

[dark hazel]

rates are server side, probably slightly but who knows

[sweet delta]

I have read allegations that the drop rate of gold bps does increase ever so slightly with the chapter

[rapid shard]

Is flapjack/helldiver/Ju a decent budget boss setup for Essex?

[sweet delta]

For heavy?

[rapid shard]

Medium/heavy

[sweet delta]

Bfg for medium

[rapid shard]

Helldiver/Ju decent enough?

[sweet delta]

They are decent

the enough part depends

[rapid shard]

Mainly just for Opsi c6 clearing right now. Trying to speed up leveling her and got a bunch of C6 loggers to knock out

[bleak junco]

Dunno if I should ask here buttttt I was wondering if I can switch servers on the same account without losing my progress on the original server I was on? Not transferring the data or anything like that, just creating a new game file and having both the new and old save if you get what I mean

[rapid shard]

She will get thrown in 13-4 farming once shes 110-115

[rapid shard]

Yeah you can have a second account of a different server without it effecting your main

[sweet delta]

Then she's going to do approximately 0 damage whether you use decent gear or good gear so it doesn't matter

[bleak junco]

Okay thank you!!

[flat oak]

Does morale rise over time or do u need to put them into dorm

[soft raft]

Dorm makes it recover faster

[zenith heron]

faster in dorm as usual, but it still does recover

[flat oak]

Oh ic

[quiet kiln]

Is it fine to use triple cv for opsi clearing?

[zenith heron]

If its for mob, its always doable

[quiet kiln]

Opsi mobs don't got a lot of suicide boats right?

[zenith heron]

not as much as campaign but there are some

I mean you can go triple BB on Opsi Mob farming though, assuming you have a vanguard healer like Brest

[quiet kiln]

Not yet, currently making Kearsarge

[zenith heron]

well, idk why you gonna put Kear in Mob though, she is well deserved for Bossing against light, especially if you have the likes of Yorktown 2

[primal yew]

Is this a better sub fleet than wolfpack for W15? This is in the github for the best W15 fleet

[strange sphinx]

should I analyze my excess DR print or stack them for a while?

[viscid swift]

anaylyze them if you need protocores for gear

[ivory pawn]

Stacking will let you complete a future FS quicker, but do you need the protocore?

Judging by the blurry background, the answer may be yes, in which case I'd analyze.

[strange sphinx]

ic

Also I'm make a thread about Opsi mob and boss. I don't remember my own team

OPSI MOB AND BOSS

[quiet kiln]

How often are ur reruns?

[zenith heron]

takes 2 years after its original run, and possibly a year after that, they go to the UR perma pool

[viscid swift]

around 2 years, Unzen will well exceed the year mark

[flat oak]

What site is this, looks pretty interesting

[primal yew]

https://renhex.github.io/AzurLaneFleet/?AFLD=No4RgBjAmA2BOANAZkgDgogLAVjFzePWQgxaLMya6TAIgHYATAQydZZbuwF1FwItNElQQM2PGTiwSiMA1nQcGQvDCoyjDq1bcsfYATA5a5MLFO5zmc1nHHB4ilShRTWtu056eB4MggSKgYsUzUKTGkIG0oYlwY3emZONm9efhIcMRisyOhoe1g7TGRlTBIbQMTELQ5Un35aEmQkeVDItAJImWi5WL746o8UtP0%2BMD9-eHgq8nzxHH7pWXkV5BcAmCTtDgbgDFpTZHzZKzIiazkFG3XK2i2a5JGudPAwA8w0HBNCWEhuxY2a6IXJyCBGdxPLwvMb8QwQBLBdpXZFROLlewIoZPNgAIxhBkgeASiDU0RsMBWRXscHKvUgJAetRSuleAQYDhRpgKXXInXp-XwgyZOJSPnGkwgBil-ClfiyJGgSCwDFomBVasQ6IGlQS%2BSSaGeBMaWJJGt65pKaAC2qFusEkI4ODFr1oCQC2FVFq9VoiOv9kD1js4WBdsImcOAJAwHqUNvIOHjJQeKi1j3YdWNUey3MTFsW5wLydMqe2rAgYYM8AqrhQXrrRxCJWBDku2yN4vIvgAhBAAHQI3sqtAMADG0CAA from this one

I don't have either of the two should I make Mogador gun first? Planning on giving one to Eldridge

[viscid swift]

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/gear-lab

[ivory pawn]

Can't make Mog gun, so...

[primal yew]

oh nvm

Wait nvm I have it wtf okay so I'll make a 100Kai

[rain bobcat]

moga gun is event limited

[sweet delta]

Wtf how did royal fortune sneak in there