gameplay-help

[rain bobcat]

she's quite mid overall but depends if what you have is worse

[wary saffron]

Well I guess I’ll put her on my second fleet

[red sapphire]

Any surface torp worth crafting on gear lab other than rainbow quintuple?

[rapid shard]

Gold quad mags

[pliant sage]

Which one should i MlB next? I have 26k spec core

[red sapphire]

The previous right?

[rapid shard]

Gold quad mags basically the standard for auto gaming.

[red sapphire]

Yeah I see

[wind hazel]

hakuhou, then if you wanna push w15 then raff, otherwise just save

[rapid shard]

Rainbows are just a bit slower but way more expensive.

[red sapphire]

I would like to craft stuff but a lot of things use electronic components

[pliant sage]

ty

[rapid shard]

DD/CL guns dont take electronics for the most part and some AAs dont either although cant remember which ones dont that are worth crafting

[red sapphire]

I crafted the single 133mm that uses electronics

[rapid shard]

Thats one of the few that does. Z46 gun doesnt for example and is a solid option for DDs

[pliant sage]

I know mono-faction teams arent like top tier, but how do you guys feel about this team? 2B is bismark zwei

[red sapphire]

I see. Unfortunatelly the DDs I use are Trafalgar and Shimakaze so... I'm stuk on 76mm

[wind hazel]

remove roon, use hindenburg

[pliant sage]

dont have yet

[rapid shard]

CLs that can use a DD gun almost always benefit more from a DD gun over CL gun

[wind hazel]

Emden?

[red sapphire]

I like mono faction fleets. Do you have Mecklenburg instead than Rumey?

It's research and I bet you have the tech

[dapper token]

is emden even good ?

[pliant sage]

I do, but i am currently going for mainz because of certain reasons

[wind hazel]

more valuable than roon

though i dont think you're gonna use the fleet anywhere difficult, so just go with that if you like it, put z52 off tank

[red sapphire]

I see. As I know, mecklenburg is great with Zwei as she deal more damage to the debuff Zwei inflicts

[frozen stag]

is there a site to view the gear lab prio when i expand the img on pc its just all blurred

[wind hazel]

open in new tab

[pliant sage]

i use zwei + rumey because of the extra slow on pull effects

[red sapphire]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wWMIzaUKISAXMbOEnmsuuLkO9PesabpdTUWdosvHygM/edit?gid=250364150#gid=250364150

[wind hazel]

or middle wheel button it

[hazy olive]

Okay I have a Hwah Jah

Is she shit?

[wind hazel]

outside of w15 fleet, yes

[red sapphire]

I see. I was thinking about 3 BB fleet, I don't have Rumey but she's great Dps as I know

[pliant sage]

yeah i also use the combo of ulrich off-flag + z52 to trigger the extra dmg as much as possible

[red sapphire]

Ägir is the only Vanguard with heavy armor?

[pliant sage]

yeah she is my main tank, then roon off tank

[red sapphire]

I want more KMS faction tech. I have high HMS and IJN but PR8 have 0 of them

[rapid shard]

Lil Agir is heavy armor as well lol

[red sapphire]

Little Ägir is Ägir... right? Right!?

[pliant sage]

I definitely have a favorite faction

[hazy olive]

Why specifically W15

[wind hazel]

she's great as a support fleet ship

[hazy olive]

Oh fair enough

[peak mulch]

Are any of the pr 8 ships worth investing in? I haven't played for a couple months and they are new to me

[wind hazel]

the DRs

[gilded carbon]

Is it a problem to run the same equip several times over a fleet? Like, a Carrier has two slots for Fighters or Torp-Bombers- Do you want the same kind of gear or different ones? Assuming its Bossing, it likely goes down for timing anyway.
But what about mobbing? And how does it work for guns/Surface-torps. If i have 2 DDs/CLs or whatever, should they have different guns for staggered damage? Does it really matter?

im probably overthinking that

[red sapphire]

I look for ammo type and bomer types, I look at highest dps equipment I have according to that

For example, if I need a BB main gun for mobing I look for HE gun with good damage -> 406 Mk 6

[wind hazel]

follow the quick gear guide, it answers your question very well

[red sapphire]

Yes that guide is great

[dapper token]

what does halford do

[wind hazel]

for campaign, when we talk about stagger damage, it's referring to your BB and CV salvo/airstrikes, more often your airstrikes

[red sapphire]

https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/ships/id/20033

[gilded carbon]

yeah, i assumed that. For dmg-uptime so you dont overkill mobs that are dying anyway

[dapper token]

well yea i can see the skills but at what situation and or teams shes good at

[gilded carbon]

my gearing is a bit of a mess at times, especially the pre-this server ships. Im thinking of re-gearing a lot of stuff and getting rid of some of gear

[red sapphire]

No idea... sorry. Probably on boss fleet to support

[violet grail]

she looks like an abyssal boss debuffer to me just based on reading the skills, but I have no experience with her

[blissful hamlet]

How's asama compared to ibuki

[rain bobcat]

mid

[blissful hamlet]

:KMShima:

[weary gust]

Suck and miss her airstrikes.

[spark patio]

why can’t i auto explorable zones? it’s me or it’s game problem?

[cobalt rapids]

halford got fixed

to auto strat search u need the oil logger
to auto search u dont need anything so idk

[spark patio]

I need to buy that thing?

[cobalt rapids]

only if u want to strat search the entire map
otherwise u can just go in and recon and then auto search

[spark patio]

how can i buy that?

[cobalt rapids]

voucher shop for 5k oil

[spark patio]

so i need to buy that 5k oil thing to fully auto explorable zones

[forest palm]

what would be a good 12-4 speed run crew, Uni/Percy + Zuihou/AQL + ???

[sweet delta]

To auto MULTIPLE zones in one go you need 5k oil

[woven star]

Speed run crew of 12-1

[forest palm]

eh....

I do 12-4

[woven star]

If no jokes. Maybe Uni+Bois or Uni+Indep

[forest palm]

Bois and Indep sound eh... don't know why

[woven star]

Uni+Pers is synch for mob better unsynch

[forest palm]

you do know what a forward slash implicates, right?

anyway I have nothing but vanguards left to level, and I'm not about to cater to MVP, so I'd rather speed up clears

[woven star]

I think the more reason play 12-1. But anyway. I'm just follow other math. Still not sure why exp better on 12-1. Exp per 1 oil or smth

[plain saffron]

also better cogs per oils, but i think it being easier to raise shitters there prob plays a part

[forest palm]

[woven star]

I mean if my goal exp per time and coins per time so 12-4 is a choice or smth like that

[plain saffron]

i just read the original question , anyway still valid to answer voltic's question

[forest palm]

acting as if I don't know all of this already

[plain saffron]

prob chkalov?

[forest palm]

[ivory pawn]

• 🦁 ?

[wind hazel]

try percy akagiM amagi

[forest palm]

BB slow has me hesitant, though I haven't really looked into the tech

does lion even fire?

[ivory pawn]

Understandable. Lion might fire on 12-4, I’ve only heard the tech being used to spam c1.

[forest palm]

[hazy olive]

reasons to play Erebus:

the oil cost is piss low

That's it.

[wind hazel]

[forest palm]

one could go lower

also I think NV/OK would probably do better than Erebus

[wind hazel]

i mean they all sound completely rubbish for your problem

[forest palm]

they do

[hazy olive]

No no trust the process

Ranger-Erebus-Shouhou

So shit, it's shit.

[wind hazel]

😭 sir, the question is how to speedrun 12-4 main fleet, not using least oil with shit ship

[hazy olive]

TRUST THE PLAN

I HAVE THE WRONG ANSWER TO THE WRONG QUESTION!

[wind hazel]

no it's also wrong answer for the wrong question

[hazy olive]

My genius is almost frightening.

[wind hazel]

wrong answer to the right question

[hazy olive]

Have you considered that with very very good luck, Ranger has the highest damage of any carrier

It's true!

[wind hazel]

yes with very good luck i could be richer than jeff bezos by tomorrow too

[hazy olive]

mhm

[spark patio]

the 5000 oil thing in opsi only appears when opsi reset?

[forest palm]

it's a once per month purchase

[forest palm]

maybe?

[spark patio]

at this point, i can’t get it even when i didn’t have it?

[ivory pawn]

And only shows up after the first monthly reset post chapter 4.

[woven star]

@forest palm if not hard point me average mob fight time what you get

[wind hazel]

go try it 1 sortie maybe can put breguet for faster timing somewhere, or uni instead of percy if the stagger is bad

[red sapphire]

Those are two mob fleets?

[forest palm]

wait AQL wants a 2x fighter

[red sapphire]

I mean, this is my great (bad) Lion usage

[forest palm]

2x Pre-Load

[woven star]

If preload -db

[wind hazel]

what db, percy and unicorn can't use them

[red sapphire]

+Lion start barrage

[forest palm]

so much damage waste

[red sapphire]

I want to replace Unicorn for Argus. It's mob fleet

[wind hazel]

replace perseus lol

[hollow gust]

they do different things...

[wind hazel]

why argus anyway

[red sapphire]

I know, that's why I want to swap them

[hollow gust]

[red sapphire]

Mobing OpSi and taking Independence role

[wind hazel]

taking indep role is such a heavy sellout for argus lol

[woven star]

@red sapphire btw why he gun? I mean I know but best lion part is barrage and ap faster gun

[wind hazel]

why arent you using indep?

[red sapphire]

Because I have to raise her

[wind hazel]

so raise her... that's the game isn't it

[red sapphire]

High dps HE gun sounds good to me for mob. What do you sugest?

[red sapphire]

On my way! I'm still raising things

[woven star]

Twin 406 as in pvp

[cobalt rapids]

for opsi mobbing it doesnt matter because lion will shoot once either way

[wind hazel]

it's a simple game. raise the better ship before the worse ships

[red sapphire]

Wich of them?

[rapid grail]

https://tenor.com/view/monsters-vs-aliens-bob-funny-shocked-shook-gif-4861342645729883333

any gun works on lion for the context of mobbing

[red sapphire]

I know I'm doing that

[hollow gust]

if you are new just use your triple 406...

[wind hazel]

you telling me that when you wanted to use argus instead of indep

[red sapphire]

[cobalt rapids]

dont recommend people to craft that thing

[hollow gust]

why tf would you suggest newer players to craft a twin 406

[red sapphire]

I have Lion gun and some purple 406 Mk 6 I think for HE BB guns it's fine

[cobalt rapids]

your setup was fine

opsi mobbing is w.e either way

[hollow gust]

stop getting baited by new shiny things, when current guns are fine

[rapid grail]

not recommended to craft this except if you know what you're doing

and contrary to expectations anyways, the slower the better in opsi mobbing. nearly everytime the CV/Ls and frontliners will clear mobs before Lion (or any other BB for that matter except UvH, Champagne...)

[woven star]

Cos it's best pvp weapon. Right behind twin 457 if ppl suggested to craft it and it's most useful and fastest gun between gold guns

[red sapphire]

I was trying to copy something similar to KimoCheese OpSi fleet wich is the following

[rapid grail]

pvp =/ opsi mobbing

[mint flint]

why are you suggesting a pvp weapon in the first place

[hollow gust]

crafting guns for pvp is just the most wasteful thing ever

[topaz smelt]

your first issue is following kimo

[hollow gust]

you literally dont need it for pvp

[red sapphire]

[timid vortex]

in a nutshell, what is operation siren?

[cobalt rapids]

💀 dont copy kimocheese
also if ure a new player u have better uses for ur lion than shoving her in opsi mobbing for fast clears
opsi mobbing clear speed minmax is like one of the last things to prio/focus on

[red sapphire]

[hazy olive]

Oh you sweet summer child

[wind hazel]

operation siren is your daily work

[rapid grail]

@woven star 457 is better than that there anyways, and you can trust me on that because i daily drive the gamemode

[mint flint]

do dailies
click auto search -> gain gear lab mats

[hollow gust]

even a half geared pvp fleet is perfectly fine for pvp aotn

[topaz smelt]

just having lion enables aotn

[hazy olive]

Half the PvP fleets are just two ships at a combined 7000 power anyways

[red sapphire]

It's just for now because I don't have many ships raised so I don't have even 2 fleets max raised... I'm coping that because I make sure the ships I'm rising are good. The plan is place Lion on BB boss on the future

[hollow gust]

like why tf would you craft a medicore as fuck gun for newbies

[rapid grail]

show opsi fleets & dock

because there's more to that beyond your Lion

[cobalt rapids]

understandable but as a fyi kimocheese is known to spread missinfo and hes not rly that good of a player so i would just avoid following his advice
he also has boomer privilege where he has a ton of resources to splurge

[red sapphire]

It's ok, I opened a threat and we made some fleets for future. I'm working on them, meanwhile I use this for clearing

[woven star]

As for me this gun loose his value out of w14-15. I skip it usage in pvp and easy content like c1-c5 or w12 and lower. When my time have higher value

[wind hazel]

you mean someone helped you to pair unicorn and perseus?

[red sapphire]

Okay, thanks. I'm also researching a lot so I know more less wich equipment to use or not

[hollow gust]

🦁

[red sapphire]

No, that masterpiece mistake is all mine

[wind hazel]

gona stalk you

[red sapphire]

Acording to the planning, Lion is going to be replaced by Essex (Retrofit) and Perseus for Independence (Retrofit)

[hazy olive]

YOU MUST BUILD THE EREBUS-RANGER-SHOUHOU FLEET

IT WAS FORETOLD THAT IT WOULD BE THE MOST OP

[forest palm]

imagine grinding AotN

[hazy olive]

not me using old strategies from years ago that make absolutely no sense now, and very little sense back then, to grind commander levels

the level 90 Leander is a feature.

[cobalt rapids]

wth are u even talking about 😭

[wind hazel]

i came back from stalking and raka was helped by ocean cat 100% trust
-# but 40% chat was infested by Voltic yapping

[red sapphire]

Lone wolf's worst nightmere. I mean it's the last left to do

[hazy olive]

The way I got from level 52 to level 60 in less than a day was by using an insanely stupid strategy and about 5000 oil

[dapper token]

Does vanguard used in HMS fleet more effectively or just regular fleet will do

[hollow gust]

faction fleets are always inferior

[hazy olive]

And it was the 20 oil fleet of Shouhou-Erebus-Ranger and Leander-Downes-Cygnet

the strategy of building common-monitor fleets was something from ages ago, and it was dumb then, and outright moronic now.

Of course it worked, but that doesn’t make it less stupid

[wind hazel]

put in indep right now, dont wait. perseus is 125, you can move her to fleet 4 for crossfleet if you want

[cobalt rapids]

are you saying u couldnt grind universe in unison with 22 oilcap ?

[viscid swift]

<@&472236072743600148> this guy is obviously just trolling at this point

[topaz smelt]

If he's here to ask, he's probably not in a position to utilize a crossfleet

[plain saffron]

🍿

[hollow gust]

[red sapphire]

Even if she's level 94?

[wind hazel]

yes

[little venture]

[red sapphire]

Okay

[wind hazel]

take opsi mob as your side exp, go level her in campaign grind

[hollow gust]

then more the reason to use her to grind exp

[hazy olive]

Extreme reaction, but okay

[little venture]

I’m gonna leave this to the mods who live here

[stark quiver]

Bro

[red sapphire]

Oh make sense alright

[topaz smelt]

youre moving in here

[little venture]

You don’t want to see my fleets, boyo

[wind hazel]

now this is the job for mr Pin

[plain saffron]

nice timing

[hollow gust]

[topaz smelt]

the people here would love to

[hazy olive]

Should I retrofit Laffey, and anyhow, it’s worth replacing Asama with Unzen right

[viscid swift]

Probably not, yes if you can MLB the latter

[ripe knot]

/mute 706256759156768890

[odd root]

sven771#0 got muted.

[cobalt rapids]

depends
yes but also depends if u should mlb unzen in the first place

[atomic abyss]

/kick 706256759156768890

[odd root]

member must be a mention or valid user id.

[plain saffron]

smh pin not doing mods job

[atomic abyss]

damn

[forest palm]

[ripe knot]

ender 🐌 msh

[little venture]

I already did it in one of the other channels

[ripe knot]

pics or it's not real

[forest palm]

purge the filth

[hazy olive]

I think I’m gonna be on three UR Bulins by the end of the month (nearly at my second)

[red sapphire]

This ok equipment for now? Stole Perseus stuff

[viscid swift]

Yes

[dark hazel]

ask again when you have 4 to mlb

[red sapphire]

Okay

[echo vector]

I want to make sure, but there is no skin voucher for collab girl hestia and ryu right ?

[wind hazel]

no, only pay to skin

[echo vector]

The skins look good but without proper try out it's a bit risky i think

[wind hazel]

check youtube

[echo vector]

Yea i don't have many gems to throw away.

[cobalt rapids]

u can preview them in shop since theres no l2d only dynamic means no interactions

[woven star]

~~cos I leave another 60% to you ~~

[echo vector]

I tried looking for them in youtube but can't find any vid that showcase their skin

[cobalt rapids]

try bilibili

[wind hazel]

i dont yap in threads

[red sapphire]

I was wondering if "new commander" packs are good to buy

[cobalt rapids]

which ones
only if ure a whale anyway*

[knotty jolt]

I mean if you have the money sure

[dark hazel]

matter of opinion, this game is f2p for content, you just save yourself time by buying resources

[knotty jolt]

I've spent a fuck ton but even I never bought the new commander pack stuff

[cobalt rapids]

the only thing i have here is this
this isnt worth it

[red sapphire]

I only use gems to dock expand and some skin, would be to grab more skins. I had a look at IV

[cobalt rapids]

even if ure a whale the gem packs are better value per $

[red sapphire]

I'm not a whale

[knotty jolt]

I am

[cobalt rapids]

oh the pr packs ? honestly they are still like mid to low prio for spendings
for a day 1 player its a bigger boost but the value diminishes the further u progress

[spark patio]

how good is Independence in W13?

[hollow gust]

very

[topaz smelt]

shes good thru w15

[viscid swift]

Pretty good

[red sapphire]

No, the newbie commander IV, the one that bring equipment selector from gear lab and 25 proto equipment selectors from PR4

[knotty jolt]

I think the only pack I've seen genuinely recommended was the level boost pack bringing you to commander lv70 instantly

[spark patio]

wah, she still good in w15?

[topaz smelt]

only pack thats good is ring pack

[red sapphire]

Understood. I will not take packs then

[cobalt rapids]

that one is ok but lower than 2x gem packs, cruise, trade license

[spark patio]

what does trade license do?

[topaz smelt]

daily resources

[spark patio]

give cubes everyday?

[red sapphire]

2x gem packs reset?

[cobalt rapids]

500 gems 30 cubes 6k oil and 30k coins

[knotty jolt]

Usually during anniversary

[red sapphire]

I haven't bought them but I wonder if they do

[cobalt rapids]

every en anni yea( for us)

[forest palm]

just be a degen an buy oil

[knotty jolt]

Have they ever done a mid year reset? My mind says yes but idk.

[viscid swift]

No

Unless you count August as mid year

[knotty jolt]

I'm going senile

[spark patio]

So the 2x gems will stay until next year?

[red sapphire]

What do you mean by "us"?

[cobalt rapids]

for global server players
2x bonus for players on jp reset on jp anni and for cn server players resets on cn anniversary

[red sapphire]

Make sense. Good to know

[dark hazel]

it stays until you buy it, if you do buy it it resets at anni

[red sapphire]

By the way, anyone here that is helping me with a lot of stuff is willing to have a guildmate like me?

[spark patio]

I would

[knotty jolt]

If ya gonna ask to be in a guild at least mention the server you're in

Can't invite if not the same server after all

[red sapphire]

Little enterprise, my bad...

[spark patio]

me enty too

[knotty jolt]

Damn shame cause I'm sandy

Watashi wa numbah won

[cobalt rapids]

#1246721562741178410 is better to look for guilds afterall we arent rly on the same server here
but also guilds dont rly change much just make sure u join one who does 2 operations with compiler boss at the end every month

[dark hazel]

Anyone know what armor type the arbiter is this month so I don't have to check?

[cobalt rapids]

temperance light

[echo vector]

Thanks for the advice, it didn't cross my mind to try blibli

[red sapphire]

Okay, thank you

[spark patio]

is it ok if i keep spamming on secured zone but not others? bc the explorable won’t work for me

[plain saffron]

explorable is once per month only

[cobalt rapids]

secured zone spamming is the last thing u do with ur ap

clear anything with an icon above first

[topaz smelt]

once per reset, some may not have unlocked reset yet

[spark patio]

like I use strategy auto but the explorable zones sometime doesn’t show all the map so my auto keep stoping.

[red sapphire]

I'm newbie but I actually cleared my first stronghold today

[cobalt rapids]

u need to recon the zones if u didnt buy the logger

[spark patio]

recon?

[knotty jolt]

If there's nothing in sight range then auto search stops

[knotty jolt]

Explorable maps have fog of war essentially

[spark patio]

anyway to improve that? i didn’t know i had to buy the hidden zones

[knotty jolt]

There's a logger in the shop

It auto recons hidden zones and one for the base map

[spark patio]

I missed it

[plain saffron]

explorable comes with fog of war, to clear it you do recon, but if you want to auto all explorable then you need to but the 5k oils logger that weill "recon" all explorable and remove movign restrictions

it's permanently in voucher shop, only shows up after 1st monthly reset

[spark patio]

uh, so i have to wait for the next month reset to fully auto

[knotty jolt]

The shops always there until you buy it

[dark hazel]

no, it's still there in your shop

[plain saffron]

when did you clear chapter 4 opsi story

[spark patio]

but i dont have the voucher to exchange

[plain saffron]

it costs 5k oils

[topaz smelt]

you get those after reset

[spark patio]

a few days ago when i finally “back” to my home

[dark hazel]

ah then yes you have to wait until next month

[plain saffron]

yeah need to wait next month

[spark patio]

also, the reward from clearing map will reset too?

[idle perch]

how to efficiency farm for hestia? or which map to play in? that is ez to spam and get lots of points. it should be 11-4 right?

[topaz smelt]

playing the game

[obsidian breach]

Surprised there's still no island development channel. How do you even get coins besides the rewards you get from quests

[dark hazel]

w12-1/4 is the usual place to farm if you can

[dark hazel]

https://discord.com/channels/456397991847395339/1422463299877867540

[idle perch]

finally using akashi after 4-5 years?

[viscid swift]

What

[dark hazel]

oh are you referring to the reaction emote

[idle perch]

w12-4 has lots of planes, and akashi helps to boost AA, the only time i used akashi was when people were recommending akashi for her AA and extra ammo

[obsidian breach]

Oh its a thread. TY by the way

[viscid swift]

Not that much AA, you can easily get away with 6 ships that need levels in the mob fleet

[atomic abyss]

you absolutely dont need akashi for AA in 12-4

[idle perch]

was it w13? i forgot, its been so long since i touch any of those chapters

[atomic abyss]

w13 was even worse

[dark hazel]

w13 is plane heavy, but idk why you'd use akashi

[atomic abyss]

you wanted airspace control, so you'd bring a carrier

[spark patio]

bruh w13 is plane hell

[atomic abyss]

the only time you'd use akashi for w12 was like, 6-7 years ago

[idle perch]

yes this^

[atomic abyss]

before they added airspace control

[topaz smelt]

just use hestia now since shes better

[atomic abyss]

in today's era, you'd only use repair ships for AA if you know what you were doing

most likely, frontline fleet tech farming because all your backliner fleet tech are done

[knotty jolt]

I'm farming 12-4 with sub level ships and I'm doing fine

[woven star]

@forest palmso what's your fastest fleet?

[atomic abyss]

i mean even back then vestal was better lol

[dark hazel]

w12 farming isn't difficult even with trash ships if you have decent gear and maybe some crossfleets

[idle perch]

im just using knowledge from 6-7 years ago

[dark hazel]

that's not a great idea

[idle perch]

yeah, thats why im asking

btw opsi 2 when? its been 5 long year-ish

[spark patio]

when anime AL season 10 out

[sweet delta]

#trophy-room

[devout dagger]

Anyone have the best build for Ryu Lion?

[sweet delta]

Just the standard CL build according to https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide/ except that you can use a +10 single 150 which is almost as good as a +13 rainbow gun

[devout dagger]

ooo gotcha I'll get working on that, thanks for the build!!

[topaz smelt]

i have my doubts that fast guns are better

[eternal moth]

I can't add Hestia to the dorm?

[atomic abyss]

you cant unless she's already perma

[eternal moth]

Well damn, that makes it even tougher to get those points then

[atomic abyss]

NPC ships cant be placed in dorm

[eternal moth]

Oh wait, it's boss only, that's right. Never mind.

[violet grail]

Hestia doesnt need to be in any fleet for you to get points, just farm campaign as you normally would and you get points. You get enough points even without the double bonus.

[eternal moth]

It just means I have to actually spend time farming. I haven't been doing much of that lately as I'm almost done with tech farm

[woven star]

as you said she only needs to be in boss fleet and I guess she perma on second day if enough points

*at phase 3

[safe nexus]

grinding C1 is draining my opsi coins, what do i do to get them back

[violet grail]

Probably just do daily missions. Not sure if you can really grind opsi coins in any way.

[safe nexus]

😭 guess not really inf grind in C1

[eternal moth]

That's the question I kept asking people that insisted C1 was infinite, and none would ever answer me

[sweet delta]

Better question, do you have infinite time in a month?

[slow fox]

When I C1 farm, I find that - indeed, time is the limiting factor as opposed to coin. I think coin recupes when you spend the gathered AP.

[violet grail]

At the end of the month the idea is to spend all that AP on C3 or C5 areas right? Whats the decision based on between c3 or c5? Just that c5 eats up the AP faster? Or you get better materials?

[woven star]

c3 chance get catnode while c5 chance 2 of them. otherwise difference in AP

[violet grail]

You aren't buying any repair kits or tuning samples right? only ap and special tokens. Coz you would definetly run out super fast buying repair kits which arent needed at all.

[sweet delta]

C3 is better for the AP, and if you were farming C1 then time is not a concern

[forest palm]

C1 could be deleted like 2-1 farming and I wouldn't miss it

[topaz smelt]

i kept getting net negative returns with my luck

how much do you realistically gain from it long term?

like 1 gold plate a month?

[violet grail]

Eh its a tiny bit of extra xp farming for 0 oil cost for those with time, while still being marginal so those that can't be bothered arent losing out on that much. but unerstandable

[forest palm]

see that's the problem it's "marginal"

[topaz smelt]

if youre doing opsi for xp youre doing something wrong

[red sapphire]

Hi, is there a material from OpSi that passes throught reset?

Items I mean

[violet grail]

I believe exchange shop points carry over. thats probably the only thing

[red sapphire]

I see. So, ap restoration and healing items are removed?

[violet grail]

yes

[red sapphire]

Alright thank you

[forest palm]

like the casual recommendation for Ops Farming should not be C1 Spam, certainly not in here it's not for a casual player, and those that want it will seek it

[topaz smelt]

c1s fine for early tuning but after that youre better off being productive in life

[forest palm]

Adapt Tuning? that's easily solved with normal play

[topaz smelt]

i def dont get enough

[violet grail]

its also nice for grinding commander xp around when you first unlock opsi

[forest palm]

ew fuck no

[topaz smelt]

if you only do dailies and a full clear, you often are at min stats for harby

[violet grail]

do y'all usually buy the tuning from exchange shop, just to speed things up?

[topaz smelt]

i only do port shops

[undone plover]

Even buying the special tokens u will run out
Only buy AP crates in c1

[forest palm]

like unless you're 120+ purposefully grinding C1 Spam for CMD is just bad

[topaz smelt]

let people question their life decisions

[forest palm]

the old hitting your thumb with a hammer

[violet grail]

im still missing some of the port resupply materials that cost special tokens so will still buy them for now, but thanks for the info. im also not nonstop c1 farming either for now, just a bit here and there

[undone plover]

Yeah no worries
I usually buy out the opsi port shops later in the month so I have enough tokens by then
And if I need any I convert in that port shop

[forest palm]

I usually end up 13k ~ 15k vouchers per month off of C3/C5 regular farming, and am still confused what you get out of C1

[topaz smelt]

its just ap convert to gold plates

idk how much the average person gets tho

[red sapphire]

What's "C" you talk about?

[forest palm]

Corrosion it's in the terminology guide in the game when you play ops

[red sapphire]

Ah ok thank you

[red hawk]

are there any easy to acquire subs that are recommended for wolfpack with i404? I have U-81, but I was curious whether any of the other options for those are available from merit/medals or something besides gacha

[silk helm]

c1 farming is more about the high from gambling on scamcat

[forest palm]

37 in the Merit Shop and 96 in the medal shop

[red hawk]

I like it because I can run it pretty much as much as I want when I'm not doing other stuff, so it's just an option to keep things moving

is 37 a 20k like eldridge?

[safe nexus]

ye im buying what you said only

[red hawk]

@violet grail if you don't have a massive pool of coins to spend, you will chunk away at it

I've burned through over 250k in the last couple days

unless you run some other stuff that is giving you better points

that'll be your limit in C1, because you can only shop for so long before you need to do something that gives more than just like 20 per fight

I try to weave doing my abyssals and stuff in with my C1

as well as dailies

[silent basalt]

producing what exactly will count for this quest?

[dark hazel]

https://discord.com/channels/456397991847395339/1422463299877867540

[violet grail]

Yep you right, just dropped below 8k coins now, so doesnt make sense to keep doing c1. I'm still not sure if I'm strong enough for c6 abyssal will probs try later in the month, but I just did a c5 abyss and only needed one of the two fodder fights to reset resolve to beat it where earlier I needed both, so progress. Definetly relying more on dailies for coin replenishment.

Burning through 250k in a couple days sounds crazy, dats a lot of c1 farming.

[hazy olive]

Alright I got Jervis from a light build, is she any good?

[sweet delta]

Quite tanky for up to chapter 14, but damage isn't great

[hazy olive]

Also got San Diego, worth raising?

[hazy olive]

I’ll note that down as “fleet 2/3 material”

[violet grail]

really good anti-air from what ive been told, but expensive to retro. im currently in the process of retroing her myself to help me on W13

[hazy olive]

Start early it is - I’ll get her and Saratoga up

[rain bobcat]

great CL, high anti air and surface damage

[red hawk]

sandy is one of the better ships in the game you can get from medal shop

[rain bobcat]

augment>retro if you have gold stones

[red hawk]

you don't NEED her retro till past world 12

[violet grail]

stuck at +9 on her augment ran out of stones

[red hawk]

and even then you can get bye, yeah don't do that, augments are only active at 10

youll get a stat boost but the abilities don't come online unless theyre maxed

and the ability is important

[violet grail]

eh well im still chilling levelling my second fleet on 12-4 for a while more so no rush

[red hawk]

like sara at +9 vs +10 doesn't get her mini airstrikes

yeah just saying, in general, you want to only do your augs at +10

and focus on the augment priority in the /equip tag

[violet grail]

oh like dont craft at all unless its +10 off rip, I see

[red hawk]

just to make sure you're saving enough, and definitely don't want a bunch of half levelled augs

if you have the free ones you get sometimes from weekly raid

you can equip those, but I wouldn't level anything into them until you get the major augments

[topaz smelt]

youre better off getting a set of purple augs early game than any of the golds

[red hawk]

I was told not to bother with those, and focus augs on specific ships

[violet grail]

All the previous ones I made for my first fleet were +10 but those were purples. may have been a bit wasteful

[red hawk]

because specific augments like sandy and saratoga are massive upgrades to specific ships you will use alot

[topaz smelt]

id only recc getting any of the gold augs after youre farming w12

[red hawk]

yeah but I don't think you need to worry about spending anything on augments till then anyway

[topaz smelt]

youre always gonna use the purple augs

[red hawk]

the only time I bothered doing purple augs was in world 12 after I had Sandy/Sara/Sanrui and all the atelier ships I used augs, then when I had the resources I started pumping up a few of the purple non unique

[hazy olive]

I can get Sara’s augment

when I get 21k gold

[rain bobcat]

get the broken augs for the ship you use before you get purples

[red hawk]

^

[rain bobcat]

purples are not going to make a big difference

[red hawk]

all the augs I got for the ships I use were massive boosts to the ships

Nina adds a ton of DPS to her attack

and sara gets those mini airstrikes

a hell of a lot more impactful than some frontal slash

[hazy olive]

man Reno is such a cool concept art wise

It’s a shame she’s shit

[red hawk]

there's a lot of this in the game, neat design, mid ass ships

[rain bobcat]

sandy>monarch or ibuki>nothing else is really important if you're broke

[red hawk]

I did Sandy>Saratoga>Yumia>Kala Ideas>Nina Friede>Sanrui

[hazy olive]

Hermione is another except unlike Reno she isn’t even the bare minimum of functional

[red hawk]

now I'm holding again

Oh wait I need to do Klaudia now

[clear harbor]

What's the armor type of the guild raid boss?

[hazy olive]

Gotta say I am not a fan of Houshou’s design mainly because of the facial expression

WHAT THE HELL IS THAT

WHERE IS HER NOSE

[rain bobcat]

heavy

[hazy olive]

Lord Voldemort has returned in shipgirl form

[viscid swift]

ok
completely irrelevant to this channel

[hazy olive]

yeah that’s true

[red hawk]

How do Perseus and Klaudias healing differ from unicorns? or do they pretty much work interchangably with Uni being the best? I'm only asking because I'm sticking them in fleets to level and give uni a break

[clear harbor]

I don't have a good AP BB gun. Would the Raff (SAP) or Lion (HE) gun be better?

[hazy olive]

Perseus heals main fleet and preloads 2 but is slower afterwards IIRC

[topaz smelt]

klaudia actually does dmg

[red hawk]

yeah I'm saving her for a second healer in later chapters

since I don't have tila aqulia

[topaz smelt]

percys pretty much deadge

[rain bobcat]

perseus has 2 preloads that heal but her airstrikes have 80% increased CD

klaudia heals everyone at the start, heals vanguard every airstrike,and heals a ship after they get below X% hp

[undone plover]

lion gun better

[rain bobcat]

percy's only use is opsi speedrunning

and ig carrying shitters in farming but you dont even need her for that because most shitters can survive in 12-4

[red hawk]

right now the only use for either of them is as a levelling fleet healer so I don't have to waste uni cap

for me*

[rain bobcat]

surely you have a champagne gun

[undone plover]

@clear harbor if u want to know why check out the armor modifiers on them both

[topaz smelt]

i dont think ppl follow reccs anymore

[rain bobcat]

raff is only good for medium, lion is only good if you don't have champ gun

[undone plover]

the last row is dmg modifiers for light/med/heavy
raffa gun (and SAP in general) have very low heavy mod at 0.5 (50%)

[rain bobcat]

thats because

[topaz smelt]

doesnt help that all the image guides are kinda ass or needs to be updated

[red hawk]

my issue is I don't look at everything, make a quick judgement and do something impulsively, that's just my 80hds

[rain bobcat]

stig has an anti braindead image tldr table

[red hawk]

so I'll see something on a guide and not really pay attention to use case or misread and not double check before I do something but that's on me

[topaz smelt]

is it any good?

[rain bobcat]

he basically made 2 rows of "this is great" and 1 row of "this is if ur broke"

[topaz smelt]

cuz ik his takes on gear are pretty wild

[rain bobcat]

well the plane side will be confusing as a newbie because there's like 50 images in it

[red hawk]

you mean like this?

[rain bobcat]

the rest are pretty standard

[topaz smelt]

some questionable stuff but w/e

[red hawk]

really until you get to a point where you even have options past the standard BB gun, it doesn't really matter.

[rain bobcat]

you don't really wanna show this to a person asking for a quick CV build but idk

[red hawk]

and rainbow is out of reach for new players for a hot minute

[rain bobcat]

its separated but EN will find a way to be EN

and CVs are annoying to explain anyway so w/e ig

[red hawk]

champ is /50 right

[topaz smelt]

if only it was clear that timing is significantly more important than damage for cvs

[red hawk]

from proto

[rain bobcat]

no, all gold research is 25

[red hawk]

sorry I meant the gun with 50 in it's name

[hazy olive]

back in COVID time, the 406 Mk. 6 was the best gun bar none

[rain bobcat]

yes 406/50 mount

[red sapphire]

Guys it's me or the next rerun we have the best CL SR main gun?

[viscid swift]

one of, yes

[rain bobcat]

yes

[red sapphire]

Lets goo

[undone plover]

if u are not sure about gun nicknames check lars' database
write the nickname in the search and it should give u the gun
https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/equips
He is pretty good in updating nicknames so I am sure he will have most of em

[red hawk]

looks like the best general use SR

[rain bobcat]

bro I keep remembering champgun as 406/50 mle completely forgetting that the pepega fucking game doesn't even show the mle part anymore

[red hawk]

maybe not the best use case for everything in its class

[rain bobcat]

because the full name is 406/50 mle 1938 proto if im not high on memory

game just says 406/50 gun mount

[red hawk]

there's so many god damn letters and numbers and guns that look slightly like each other that I don't dare buy ANYTHING without triple checking a guide

[rain bobcat]

that's why you remember it by saying what ship they're originally from and by memory

[red hawk]

but that doesn't have any context for me

because I don't know those ships, I'm learning it now

[topaz smelt]

newbs wouldnt know where they came from

[red hawk]

or what they look like on sight

[viscid swift]

it'll become muscle memory after a while

[red hawk]

Like wtf is this gun

[rain bobcat]

an image+ship name is way better still

[topaz smelt]

just learn the backline stuff, vg stuff are a bit less important

[rain bobcat]

flandre gun

the problem with learning not from ship name is that many things are from the same calibre

[red sapphire]

Do I use Helena on BB fleet or on CV fleet (OpSi)?

[rain bobcat]

theres probably 30 guns with 203 or 406 in the name

neither, otherwise whichever hits the hardest on the current arbiter

[red hawk]

looks like flandre is decent for Med/Heavy if I dont' have UR guns

[red sapphire]

I don't even know who is he or where he is

[rain bobcat]

current arbiter is light armor

[red sapphire]

Who is the arbiter?

[rain bobcat]

temperance

[red sapphire]

Where do I find it?

[rain bobcat]

middle red spiral in the map

[red sapphire]

Ahhh. Okay thank you. I still have to reach that location

[red hawk]

I shouldn't have to worry about needing everyone at 125 for world 13 right? as long as I have good ships and gear 120+

[rain bobcat]

usually you use helena on the BB fleet because its lower floor for good damage

[rain bobcat]

if you have eldridge and sandy w13 is braindead

[red hawk]

I do and both ARE at 125. I just am gonna have hak and essex who wont be

[red sapphire]

Uderstood! On BB then

Thank you

[red hawk]

would it be good to put STAAGs on my bb's for 13

[rain bobcat]

sure

[red sapphire]

Could you recommend me a content creator to watch? To learn something

[rain bobcat]

none of them are particularly great

jimmy is borderline ok but he's too rich for recommending his takes to the general consensus

[red sapphire]

Too rich?

[rain bobcat]

he has max fleet tech and all gear he uses at +13

[red sapphire]

Oh, I see

[rain bobcat]

basically just ask here instead its usually gonna be better

[red sapphire]

Okay! Yeah, thanks a lot for solving my issues and mistakes

[violet grail]

if you go to his playlist tab theres the in-depth equipment guides playlist that explains armour types and then 1 vid for each weapon type. but they are lengthy videos

[topaz smelt]

id just avoid yt entirely

[red sapphire]

It's fine as long it's useful information. I will have a look, thanks

[rain bobcat]

ur not gonna gain much watching his entire playlist honestly ur just gonna gain basic damage formula and what guns are horrible type of knowledge

while jimmy usually knows what he's talking about keyword usually, he's very endgame focused

[red sapphire]

For now, all I know is that HE is good against light and AP against heavy, and Parallel torpedo is area and Covering torpedo is targeted. This is my knowledge

[violet grail]

I mean I learned stuff like that there were parallel and converging torpedo bombers and that parallel is better for campaign, and converging requires slowed or immobile boss.

[rain bobcat]

yeah we can explain that in 1 sentence instead of 10 mins

[violet grail]

true but I wouldnt have even known to ask about it

also learning about CVs caring more about timing than damage is cool and all but Ive never actually even tried to apply that XD.

[red sapphire]

I did

I mean look at how tight this look

This is from before I knew the AvP is better

Now I have to do it again

[rain bobcat]

avp shouldn't be a big difference in speed

[violet grail]

oh ye i should start using the calculator

[red sapphire]

Yes but will be hard to place at 23.19 again

[red hawk]

is it worth farming gold catapaults from WA

[red sapphire]

Unles... I get UR to Shinano

[clear harbor]

I didn't think to check here. Thanks!

[sweet delta]

You only need it that tight for very long battles like if you take 9+ minutes in Challenge Mode

You can just change one of shinano ju to Ryusei for a looser sync, so it's easier to fit AvP in between

[red sapphire]

That's right yeah. For AvP what KMS equipment do I give her? Ju?

[rain bobcat]

i mean its quite weird because the other 2 are oathed and avp is kinda fast iirc

[sand igloo]

how do I defeat all enemies in a stage

[red sapphire]

Yes, equiping KMS equipment give her rel

[sand igloo]

they keep respawning

[sweet delta]

Bf109g for medium, ju for heavy,
And for light it's hvar ju if you have hvar otherwise just bf109g

[rain bobcat]

because the other 2 are oathed, manjuu avp will be mistimed on a normal setup, prob have to do some scuffed plane setup on her

nvm

[clear harbor]

I do not. I guess I should build one?

[violet grail]

They eventually stop spawning. You have to beat all the escort fleets and then the boss when its the only one left. But if you are super early in the game its fine to not 3 star the stages yet and just push further into the campaign.

[rain bobcat]

yes

[clear harbor]

Oof, I need to crack open some tech boxes.

[rain bobcat]

its from research

[clear harbor]

Right, but don't I need a the Quad 340 to start (or something else along the chain)?

This is the Champagne gun, right? Or is a different one?

[red hawk]

yes

[sand igloo]

I need to farm levels on my newer ships. Levels make them stronger right?

so Helena, Unicorn and Portland I will keep using into the midgame?

[red hawk]

youll use unicorn for a mob fleet healer for most of the game

[violet grail]

Yeah you will keep using those for a long time.

[sand igloo]

yeah I noticed Unicorn made my ships pretty much invincible

[red hawk]

just focus on the one fleet till you finish world 10

[clear harbor]

Thank you. I have a Champagne gun now. 🎉

[vapid valve]

im still trying to get

[wary saffron]

What benefits me if I retire a ship

[clear harbor]

If you retire rares or higher, you get medals to spend in the medal shop.
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Shops#Medal_Shop

Common ships are generally used for enhancement fodder since you don't get medals for retiring those.

[red sapphire]

I think I can do single boss C5 if I have the rest command

Should I +13 black shells or I just wait to hpfcr?

[gray sphinx]

Anything I should change for opsi? Fourth fleet is basically crossfleet

[violet grail]

As in you need 4 fights to beat it?

I think the advice is to only +13 the white shells, black get replaced.

[red sapphire]

I only have 2 usable fleets so... would be 3/4 fights with the rest

[red sapphire]

Okey

[violet grail]

Im just making sure that you know about the two hidden fleets in bottom corners for resolve reset.

[red sapphire]

What's that?

[violet grail]

Hidden in the fog, you can fight them to reset resolve without using rest command

[red sapphire]

I... didn't knew that... uhm...

[red sapphire]

I would place Lion on flag probably

And Rumey on the mob fleet in exchange of independence

[forest palm]

Lion doesn't inheriently need Flag

[red sapphire]

Don't mind me too much I'm newbie so I might be wrong

[gray sphinx]

Ngl I thought musashi wanted it more so I gave it to her

[red sapphire]

I thought Plymouth buff is better on her

[red sapphire]

Understandable. Give the fox what she wants

[forest palm]

yes, I'm just mentioning that she doesn't

Musashi needs flag for like 1 of her 9 barrages, which compared to the damage Lion puts out you lose nothing

you can drop Shinano if you have Musashi ready, no clue what's going on with that 4th fleet

[gray sphinx]

Sooo lion better flag then?

[gray sphinx]

4th fleet is just a crossfleet lol

[clear harbor]

How do I get to them? I tried and it seemed like my movement was blocked.

[forest palm]

ah, I meant Hakuho

fraud wins again

[topaz smelt]

crossfleet is fake, if you have one you should already be killing everything with 1-2 fleets

[violet grail]

Usually you go top right or top left and theres a way to pass on the side.

[clear harbor]

Ohhhh, okay.
Yeah, I tried from the bottom, so that was the issue.

[gray sphinx]

Hakuho is unfortunately not ready atm

[red sapphire]

Why not Rumey on mob? In exchange of Independence?

Independence is crossfleet skill too

[violet grail]

Sometimes you go through fog sometimes theres bumpers that throw you over a wall or the arrows that push you.

[gray sphinx]

I’ll probably throw rumey on mob but I figured she was just a light boss fleet abuser

[forest palm]

she's more for Medium

[gray sphinx]

I mean that’s exactly why my 4th fleet is just a bunch of random ships that can crossfleet

[topaz smelt]

the only time you should be making a crossfleet is when you are strong enough to kill everything with 1 or 2 fleets and you just want to go a little faster. if youre not at this point a crossfleet is more of a liability

[red sapphire]

When I have the level to do so I will use Fusou META crossfleet

[gray sphinx]

I mean I definitely kill everything in 1-2 fleets aside from hard arbiter but I can live with a little bit less tickets at the end of the reset

[topaz smelt]

harby is the only fight you care about

the rest of opsi is trivial and can be beaten with half baked fleets

[gray sphinx]

[red sapphire]

Meanwhile me:

I use fleet 1 and 2

[topaz smelt]

those fleets are kidna backwards

[red sapphire]

I know but I'm more newbie than anything

[violet grail]

The fleets must be baked, noted

I should give harbiter another shot, maybe I can get the first set of rewards now.

[red sapphire]

I mean, what else can I do other than loop 12-4 to farm XP?

[topaz smelt]

you can run lion,sashi, + 1, ply,traf, helena as your boss and youll prob do a lot better

[red sapphire]

Sashi?

[gray sphinx]

Ngl as long as I can grab the rainbow print from the normal mode I could care less about the hard mode rewards sure I’ll have to buy a little less during the reset shop but that’s fine with me

[red sapphire]

Ah Musashi. I know but I'm still rising shipgirls

I don't have a bad rooster but I need the XP

[topaz smelt]

ye just farm w12, you have like 2 weeks to clear opsi

[red sapphire]

Probably will skip Arbiter until I have something good bilt...

[topaz smelt]

normal is trivial since you can just leave and come back

[rain vine]

kazagumo on a fleet with only 1 CV

[topaz smelt]

can you even call that a fleet

[red sapphire]

Because I only use first 2 fleets

I think Hestia is what my boss fleet needed. Right? RIGHT!?

[eternal basalt]

The latest information ahead -
 the "Hurricane" camp large-scale event will be launched at the end of the month! 
The members are heading to Minato Ward and are on standby for the event! 
The battle is coming, and the commander is also asked to be ready for battle! (`・ω・´)ゞ ​​​```
Hurricane is Tempesta right?

[violet grail]

Oof, only getting to 84% still on harbiter. Theres no fodder fleets and cant even use rest command on harbiter?

[vale spindle]

yes

oh nvm im dumb i got confused

hardarbiter is hard, but the rewards are minor compared to normal arbiter

[wary saffron]

Ok thanks

[rain bobcat]

just run what rice said and its prob doable to clear all opsi content as long as the rest of the fleets arent horrible

sashi lion+vanguard would inherently clear most of opsi even if you dont switch guns from AP to HE

I can kill temperance with lion bisz alsace without even switching guns from AP

[violet grail]

@blissful otter see if someone here can help you figure out the issue wih not getting hestia trust points. Better than talking in trophy channel.

Which stage of campaign have you been farming on?

[blissful otter]

I just been trying different main stage missions but I continue getting ryu trust points instead

[inland shoal]

Ryuu is just 1 pt per enemy killed

[dark hazel]

what stages

[violet grail]

Yeah but which ones specifically? Like 12-1? Or like 2-4?

Also have you been killing the boss or retreating early

[inland shoal]

Hestia pts appear in this end screen and look like this (the 16 thingies), you need to beat the full stage and it needs to be above a certain chapter iirc, don't quite remember which one tho

[blissful otter]

I’ve been doing hard mode on some of the stages

[dark hazel]

What stages bro, give us the numbers

[violet grail]

It says chapter 3 but not sure if its above or including

[red sapphire]

Okay, thank you
Good night chat

[inland shoal]

I think it's inclusive

[topaz smelt]

does hm give pts?

[dark hazel]

Is hm 'main campagin'

[inland shoal]

Idk but I'm doing hm rn so I'll know in a minute

[violet grail]

Do normal mode above chapter 3 and make sure to clear the boss.

[rain bobcat]

I didn't bother checking

[rain bobcat]

hard mode main campaign yes

[blissful otter]

I did chapter 8 stage 8-4 with hard mode

[dark hazel]

then I presume hard mode doesn't count, try a regular stage

[violet grail]

Could be that hardmode doesnt work ye, i never paid attention

[red hawk]

I mean it should, it's a campaign boss

weird

[dark hazel]

that doesn't mean it does and if he's at zero

[topaz smelt]

inconsistency is the norm

[red hawk]

yeah sorry I just was really surprised

[topaz smelt]

youll get used to it

[red hawk]

I know it tends to exclude event stages and such

[inland shoal]

Yeah I have indeed not gotten any Hestia pts for my hard mode runs

[topaz smelt]

inb4 clearing mode turns off the pts

prob just hm entirely that doesnt give pts

[inland shoal]

Doesn't D3 at least usually count for these NPC thingies? I really don't pay much attention to them with how easy the pt limit is to hit usually

[topaz smelt]

smh thorin, not thinking like a newb

[vital cloak]

how do i farm EXP materials?

[ivory pawn]

Just farm stages as normal, but with level 100+ ships.

A % of their exp earned will be converted into exp books, up to x books per hour.

[inland shoal]

You really don't need a full fleet of >100s, the exp in the lecture hall fills rather quickly

[topaz smelt]

assuming its maxed

books arent the primary source of xp in this game, theyre more of a bonus every few weeks

[inland shoal]

Doesn't it fill even quicker if not maxed cuz the capacity is less?

[vital cloak]

i see, i'll grind here

[inland shoal]

Yeah definitely don't use maxed ships just for books

[topaz smelt]

doesnt conversion rate go up with level

[inland shoal]

I do so not remember that

[topaz smelt]

same

i think ive finally hit a bulin drought

ig you cant avoid pvp anymore

[inland shoal]

Yeah, with how many SRs there are nowadays especially including collabs you need so many burins it's crazy

[topaz smelt]

ye and they havent up the sources for those

[inland shoal]

Depends a bit on the way your pulls go ofc

[topaz smelt]

my pulls go terrible so iget a lot of dupes

still not enough to sustain and ive been buying out shop dupes

[inland shoal]

My pulls go terrible so I need to go past pity to get even 1 of the SR, let alone dupes

[topaz smelt]

luckily i didnt pity the last ur event, only went to 190

[violet grail]

Isnt pvp rly fast to do? Either fight the people who put super weak defences for quick wins, or the overpowered people who smash you instantly.

[topaz smelt]

i havent touched pvp for like 4 years

was borderline sustaining on monthly/weekly

the last collab nuked my bulins tho

[violet grail]

Im one of the people putting 1:1 weak def. Doing my part.

[inland shoal]

Kind of, but still can take >15 minutes a day depending on what opponents you get. Unless you actually check the fleets the enemies put, but that's effort

[ivory pawn]

Yeah, but it like triples my daily clicks.

[topaz smelt]

slot lion -> click left

[late flame]

stall fleets are an annoyance though lol

[topaz smelt]

but ye one of the increasingly worsening issues with the game rn

no issues at bottom ranks

[late flame]

i am only in it for the bulins so i just whack right most (usually easiest) opposition

[inland shoal]

I move out of the bottom ranks simply by doing pvp at all

[silent hearth]

damn i thought those siren platforms could only do up to 3 item spawns

[topaz smelt]

i think ive seen them chain like 6 once

[forest palm]

Avrora is annoying for PvP, while not everyone is running some top fleet in the 1000+ it still isn't easy to throw w/e at

[silent hearth]

i see lion in a pvp fleet and i turn around, idc if they have 5000 power lower lol

[forest palm]

why is Avrora so sweaty

[topaz smelt]

old players, decreasing population, 0 new players

[forest palm]

It's more so that the newer population is diluted by the amount of sub servers

[topaz smelt]

i thought avrora was locked

[forest palm]

Don't think so

[topaz smelt]

huh nvm

was that a thing way back? idk why i thought that

[forest palm]

Not sure

[inland shoal]

I don't think so

There's just servers advertised as "hot" and "new" and Avrora is never one of them

[forest palm]

The game may be programed to place newer players into less populated servers first

[violet grail]

Same tbh. Been burned a few times.

[silent hearth]

i sit around 14k main 13 van and ive fought a few fleets with a 9k main and weak vanguard, lion just pewpew fire and my ships burn to death XD

[wind hazel]

it's about time for you to learn that power means absolutely nothing in value

[forest palm]

Nowadays people can run some shit gear, but if they rainbow vomit to a degree it can be rather annoying

[silent hearth]

yeah i know. its a measuring stick. but its a general guideline that is about 85% of the time good to use to pick vs a pvp fleet. that being said theres a few ships that if i see i will not fight, no matter the difference.

[wind hazel]

it's 0% good of the time

[silent hearth]

sure sure o7 whatever you say commander.

[late flame]

yeah anything that has lion+yukikaze+laff2+eld = skip

[wind hazel]

the ships matter, the power do not. don't look at the power, it means really absolutely nothing in value

[late flame]

or anyone using a mirror of what i'm using:

[silent hearth]

yup, i absolutely agree. good talk.

[forest palm]

The thing is now that people can UR vomit, power easily inflates

[stark quiver]

why does my 7k powerfleet die in 15-4

[topaz smelt]

shouldve went 8k

[hollow gust]

lol not using yuki, free win

[late flame]

ngl i thought my brain was fizzing out due to lack of morning caffine

[stark quiver]

psyop victim #1

[hollow gust]

smh why you giving out the secrets

[haughty skiff]

popping in to ask 2 questions

actually started grinding OPSI so i can +13 my first piece of UR (i know about the +11 / 12) ; just unsure if i should rn or just hold off

also on the same note, i have enough UR Design Plans to make 1 piece of UR gear that doesn't require T3 Ordanance, so i figured Wyvern or just hold off as well until the Gear Lab update early next year

[stark quiver]

i think a wyv may be good for you

[haughty skiff]

i know

[stark quiver]

dont +13 anything unless you need to

[haughty skiff]

feels like i probably need too, i cant 1-shot the current meta or beat hard arbetier

i lack basically all of 2025's gacha urs & pr7 so it's been gear carrying me for the most part

[stark quiver]

will +13ing a single gear give you just enough boost to one shot
how far are you from one shotting

[topaz smelt]

1 shotting meta doesnt get you anything, beating harby doesnt require any rainbow gear nor +13s

[haughty skiff]

true ig; i lack a lot of the modern anti-light / medium URs so it's been a bit tedious

[late flame]

its more of a brag thing (and saving some oil for meta fight)

[topaz smelt]

click support, come back in an hour, repeat

[late flame]

or just fuck it and send help without even fighting

[haughty skiff]

i dont get what you mean - the sub support ?

[stark quiver]

for meta, request support button

[rain vine]

so other people can fight your meta fight

[haughty skiff]

oh, never bothered w/ it

[stark quiver]

yea, and maybe some tryhard loser would one shot your boss to test damage

[late flame]

i am one such tryhard

[haughty skiff]

just annoys me that i get it to like 25 - 30/100 and cant one shot it

[topaz smelt]

the boss has too little hp to test dmg

[late flame]

nah i am usually using it to test weapons (since i lack some recc ones)

[stark quiver]

i have full meta fleet

[late flame]

as do i

[stark quiver]

but i usually 3 shot so it doesntmatter

[haughty skiff]

i lack 2nd skyraider so my fleet is cooked lmao

[stark quiver]

skyraider in 2025

[topaz smelt]

ppl barely run 1

dont mention my comp

[stark quiver]

i should rly just scrap all my planes to +13 2nd fishy

[hollow gust]

you realize the last 10-20% is the hardest part right? first 70% everyone can do

[haughty skiff]

its either that or alasce / bis2 / vanguard since i lack fritz, lion, nakhi and soyuz

[topaz smelt]

its usually the vg selections that hold ppl back

but not having lion is a hit

[haughty skiff]

sure ig

[stark quiver]

it is?

[topaz smelt]

nah its the last 5%

[eternal moth]

Welp, looks like we're getting Queen Anne's Revenge this year.

[topaz smelt]

so another unusable ship with tentacles?

[eternal moth]

It's possible they won't release it, but with the last tweet saying "take ye revenge" it's certainly pointing that way.

[weary edge]

ik 12-4 is best oil to gold ratio but is it also same for xp or do u just get the best xp from whatever highest x-4 u can do

[dark hazel]

x-1 for xp, x-4 for gold. and w13 is technically better, but the difficulty makes it generally not worth it

[weary edge]

okay bet thx

[sand igloo]

are the Hestia and Ryu worth using for a beginner or nah?

[mint flint]

hestia no, ryu is decent

[soft raft]

Ryu is realistically barely any better overall than Hestia

[viscid swift]

what

[sweet delta]

What is bro tweaking, Ryu is about as good as fs5 Harbin

And super cheap to gear

[shell rain]

IM NOT CHEATING! But this suddenly came up and I Don't Know why or what it is.

[sweet delta]

/logmode

[odd root]

https://youtu.be/l3ujs7D0tFE

[shell rain]

I did turn it off, somehow. Reporting on it with SS so Im not removed from the game.

Thanks for the help

[sweet delta]

Theyve banned legit players for less

[stark quiver]

"legit"

[soft raft]

Damn really
Wouldnt have know because no one mentioned her much during datamine and I've been too drained to even log in this past week 💀

[woven fern]

Is there a specific way to get tech points? Im trying to u lock anchorage but im stuck at 314

[sweet delta]

Buy from guild shop or drop from maps all the purple and below ships. Get them all to level 70 and max limit break. Bigger hulls give more points, each unique named ship can only give points once

Eagle union has a lot of purple BBs, CVs, and CAs like Maryland, Colorado, Arizona, Saratoga, Lexington Yorktown hornet etc

[woven fern]

Yeah, leveling, the thing i suck at🥲

[eternal moth]

On average, Main fleet > vanguard, BB > CV for tech points. CA > CL > DD, and the higher the rarity, the more tech points

Obtaining and MLB is what, 75% of total tech points, something like that?

[woven fern]

im ngl, i took a big break a bit ago, and dont know what the acronyms mean😭

[eternal moth]

BB = battleship, CV = carrier, CA = heavy cruiser, CL = light cruiser, DD = destroyer

[woven fern]

ah i see okay

and MLB, all i think of is baseball lol

[eternal moth]

MLB is max limit break

[woven fern]

ah okay

[eternal moth]

Just remember, you get A LOT more purple bulins than you do gold.

You also only get points for the first copy of a ship; limit breaking 2 of the ships doesn't give you anything.

[woven fern]

gotcha, alr, i will take this knowledge and try my best

[vale spindle]

<@&460646206851252224> <@&472236072743600148> scammer guy

[fallen jay]

Is Hestia worth MLBing?

[soft raft]

No
common Repair ship L

[fallen jay]

What about the necklace thing does it help at all?

[sweet delta]

that's not a necklace, that's a booblace. And she is bad even with it

[weary edge]

should i build ryu? well before that what's like her whole gimmick. ive very dumb and illiterate so i require simple explanations

[sweet delta]

she is an allrounded ship like Shimanto without AA, or worse Bayard, or a tankier Harbin without smoke

[weary edge]

i see

yo im lowk super low on blue aux upgrade mats 😭 😭 is there a way other than like shop and sortieing to get more

[sweet delta]

open tech boxes and scrap purple gear

[weary edge]

this is true, very true. also is perseus good?

she looks pretty solid

[rain bobcat]

her only use is opsi speed clearing

[sweet delta]

part of the primary healer tier below unicorn, which is klaudia and perseus

[dapper token]

is krondshtat worth to exchange if i dont have a ur vanguard

[eternal moth]

What other tanks do you have?

[dapper token]

i got ancho, roon, san fransisco and portland ig

[eternal moth]

Is Ancho at dev30? If so, what other UR ships do you have?

[dapper token]

yes shes at dev 30 i got shinano, nj, alsace and mogador

[wind hazel]

why make this complicated, the answer is no, Kron is not a priority

she's one of the last 2 to be exchanged from permanent pity

[eternal moth]

If Shinano's not max limit broken, you're better off getting additional copies of her than anything else.

[dapper token]

i mlb her

[wind hazel]

Musashi(soon)>Vanguard>UVH>Kron>Shima

if you need another tank, get Agir

[dapper token]

how soon is musashi

[wind hazel]

give or take within now to next month

if she isn't here by then, you can send me angry DM

[topaz smelt]

@sweet delta question about your sub calc, how does it compensate for barrage delays

hes blocked me, someone ping this bum for me

[sharp socket]

how much damage difference is z52 using single 76mm vs twin 130mm

[sand igloo]

Is it worth oathing Helena for the stat boosts or will I not use her after a while?

[eternal moth]

Not worth for the stat boost, but she's still worth for waifu

[sharp socket]

oath your waifus that you like, dont bother oathing for stats unless you're a big whale

[sand igloo]

isn't oathing for stats the opposite of whaling? Trying to get as much value out of smth as possible...

[sharp socket]

the difference it makes is very tiny

[late flame]

but yeah unless you are planning to do something along this lines, just oath whoever you like

[sharp socket]

if you really want to oath for meta, do it for backlines for pvp or something

but its not recommended to do so as f2p

[eternal moth]

I pretty much only oath main fleet and not vanguard, but yeah. True whales will oath everyone in their fleet.

[sand igloo]

so even as a F2P I just oath anyone I want?

[quiet kiln]

Enterprise or Chkalov for the boss fleet on w13?

[viscid swift]

I mean yeah

[eternal moth]

Personally, I'd only use the free rings you get, and oath either your favorite ship, or any ship you really like the oath skin of.

[weary edge]

i would personally oath ships that you want a damage boost on since oath ships can get another 6% dmg boost at 200 affinity

[eternal moth]

We just had this discussion on why you're wrong.

[weary edge]

ok so i guess the "personally" in both our statements just didnt mean shit

[sand igloo]

they're pretty expensive yeah

[sharp socket]

gph recommends not to oath for meta

[wind hazel]

the only wrong part is 6% dmg boost

[weary edge]

i personally also dont really care about skins or that kinda stuff im more focused on the gameplay

[eternal moth]

The thing is, if you start oathing for stats, you have to KEEP oathing for stats or it's wasted eventually.

[sharp socket]

this is partly because if you oath backline but only do one backline you're gonna have a pain trying to do certain stuff like syncing

[weary edge]

is it not 6% at 100 affinity then 12% at 200

[wind hazel]

it's 6% stat boost, not damage

[eternal moth]

And most F2P players aren't going to have enough rings to even keep main fleet oathed.

[weary edge]

same shit

[rigid onyx]

stats but speed~~ and luck~~ iirc?

[eternal moth]

It's far harder to set up timings if 1 or 2 ships are oathed and the others aren't.

[wind hazel]

lol it's not same shit...

[weary edge]

yeah yeah

[viscid swift]

It really isn't

[weary edge]

ok yeah that makes sense

"ermmm actually spiders are arachnids!!" ahh correction

[sharp socket]

like you can still do it like i have shinano oathed but still able to sync because love knows no bounds but its way easier to do it without uneven oaths

[viscid swift]

Math can be a fickle thing, not even getting into potential reload breakpoints

[eternal moth]

But... they are.

I don't get what you're trying to say.

[weary edge]

yeah, i know, that's why i called it "correction"

[wind hazel]

buddy, just say ty for correction, don't have to have bruised ego about it

[weary edge]

yeah no thanks

[eternal moth]

Ah, the PirateSoftware approach. Got it.

[viscid swift]

That attitude will get you far here as well as in life/s

[sand igloo]

ok so don't oath the backline of my main fleet if I can't oath all of it

[weary edge]

i mean couldnt you also just tailor the rest of ur backline to sync with whatever ship was oathed

[wind hazel]

literally just oath whoever you want

[rapid shard]

Just oath your favorites man you dont have to think that hard about it tbh

[viscid swift]

You can it's just a pain in the ass to work around

[weary edge]

yeah i dont think there's a lot of parallels with a gooner gatcha game and real life but thanks for the advice

[eternal moth]

If you really like the ship and want to oath them it's fine, it just requires more work. It's more that if you're strictly F2P it's better to give rings to ships you like rather than worry about the meta.

[dapper token]

Which season 5 pr is best to get first

[late flame]

if you really wanna obsess about stats then whale, ez

[sand igloo]

alr ty I'll just oath whoever, she'll probably be taken out of my main fleet later anyway

[viscid swift]

All mid at this point

[eternal moth]

Plymouth, easily.

[weary edge]

LOL the loser blocked me

[dapper token]

but thts dr

[wind hazel]

who

[late flame]

keep this up and you'd get more than blocks

[eternal moth]

If you mean PR specifically then yeah, it doesn't matter.

[weary edge]

the belfast pfp guy

[sharp socket]

are we gonna have to call the mods for this one

[wind hazel]

deserved

one less idiot for him to help in gph

[sweet delta]

If you start oathing for waifu, you have to KEEP oathing future released waifus too

[eternal moth]

I mean, that's the nature of the game isn't it?

[viscid swift]

It's really fucking expensive for what it is

[weary edge]

yeah but i hear you can get free rings from like anniversaries right

[eternal moth]

Yeah, you only get 1 or 2 per year.

[viscid swift]

Also oathing after the fact means having to go back to grind affinity which is a massive pia

[weary edge]

i mean grinding affinity doesnt really take that long tbh

well then again from 100-200 def takes a lot longer than 50-100

[late flame]

orly but yes its annoying af

[eternal moth]

I've done it, it's annoying.

[forest palm]

seems like you can mitigate that now with the 3D thing

[eternal moth]

Island helps with affection?

[weary edge]

i think ive heard something like that yeah

[viscid swift]

I cannot be bothered with that node

[late flame]

island planning is another bullshit mode 😛

[forest palm]

you get gifts from the island that give affection to the ship

[eternal moth]

Oh, interesting.

[late flame]

not worth the hassle i assure you

[weary edge]

okay i keep seeing people say affection and affinity r those like 2 different things or

[rapid shard]

Its not a ton either tho

[wind hazel]

just do daily, get enough coin, buy all affinity item, dip

[eternal moth]

People calling them different things.

[weary edge]

ah okay

[forest palm]

I mean early grind for anything is going to be shit, and once you reach the later stage it ends up being autonomous, that's how everything in AL works